1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I refuse to use my one hundred and eighty thousand 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: dollars for my son's rehab. 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Will power is free? Am I the a hole? I 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 2: mean it sounds like op is just given some tough love. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Teach a man to not do drugs and he can 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 2: only not do drugs for a day. 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: Give a man drugs and. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: He sells them for life totally and he becomes a millionaire. Okay, 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: yes this, Yeah, you have one hundred and eighty grand 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: You can't can't. 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 3: Spend one seent of it? Huh yeah, yeah. Maybe there's 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: a reason. 13 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a reason. Maybe maybe Opie just wants to 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: make his kid's life hard. There's only one way to 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: find out, the hard way, the hard way. That's our way. 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: My husband and I have been married for three years now. 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: I have a daughter fifteen female, and he has a son, 18 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: twenty four male. I am friendly with my step son, 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: but we're not close. He has a biological mother who 20 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: is a perfectly fine woman. I'm not here to take 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the role of his mom. 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: Ohp he's a lady. 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: OPI is, yes, a step mommy my late husband, my 24 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: daughter's father, passed away when the daughter was six years old. 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: We both contributed to her college fund. 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: My daughter's paternal grandparents have also contributed a large amount. 27 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: Right now, that fund has about one hundred and eighty 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: That's a big college fund. That is like, she's she sizables. 30 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,639 Speaker 2: She can go away anywhere with that. That's right, Eat, 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: maybe USC, Yes, that's only probably only two years. Just 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: go to Harvard at that point. 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, my daughter is extremely bright. And I'm not just 34 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: saying that because I'm her mom. Sure, op with your lies, 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: I see right through. 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: Everyone says their child is so bright and so smart 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: and so cute and everything. But maybe she's an idiot. 38 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: Maybe she's an idiot, dummy or genius. 39 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: We will see. 40 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: I truly believe that she has the capacity to go 41 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: to an Ivy League school, and her teachers have said 42 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: that she has that potential as well. 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, that's awesome. 44 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: That's good. 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: So maybe she hadn't agree. And I don't want any 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: costs holding her back. Our income would be too high 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: to get any meaningful financial aid. And while there are 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: a few merit based scholarships out there that she will 49 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: be applying to, we don't want her to put all 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: her eggs in one basket and just hope that she 51 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: gets it when it's so competitive. My current husband and 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: I have separate finances. He doesn't contribute at all to 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: my daughter's fund. My stepson is struggling with a heroin addiction. 54 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. He has stolen money, jewelry, heirlooms, and 55 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: electronics from us for drug money. I understand that an 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: addiction is a disease, and I personally paid for an 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: outpatient detox for him, which was around one thousand dollars, 58 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: which failed. His father then paid for an outpatient rehab 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: program which costs sixty five hundred dollars, which also didn't 60 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: work because he barely showed up. He promised us that 61 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: he'd do better next time and he needed another chance. 62 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: So I split the cost of another sixty five hundred 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: dollars out patient rehab program with my husband, which seemed 64 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: to work during the program, but he relapsed as soon 65 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: as he got out of it. Well, I have spent 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: so much money, time and energy and it hasn't helped 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: at all. My husband and my stepson want to try 68 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: a sixty day out patient rehab program, which will cost 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars. 70 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Ooh that is maybe this is this is a tough situation. 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this it's like basically this kid's life. Yeah, 72 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 2: it's kind of life and death. 73 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: And of course the dad is like whatever, probably going 74 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: to try whatever he can do. 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Right. I have a childhood friend that actually I'm not 76 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: close with him anymore, but apparently he's like on the 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: street kind of like just like addicted to drugs. Yeah, 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: and they did a sixty thousand dollars treatment and it 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: didn't really work. It's your I mean yeah, so you're 80 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: and he's like down to pay anything, like sold his house. 81 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 2: Yeah that that. It's rough. 82 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: It it happens. It happens, really hard situation. 83 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: I had absolutely no idea where they were supposed to 84 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: get the money for that, considering the thousands and thousands 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: of dollars that they'd already spent and the fact that 86 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: we no longer had anything of value in our house. 87 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I guess from him stealing everything. Oh 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: my goodness. Wow, they want to use my daughter's college fund. 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: Which. 90 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: Shit, here it is, yeah, here it is. 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: This is where it's at, which to me is absolutely 92 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: off limits. I feel like it's a completely unfair to 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: punish my daughter for my step son's addiction, unfair to 94 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: my late husband and to his parents. But frankly, I 95 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: don't think spending thirty thousand dollars will work. My husband 96 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: thinks I'm an asshole because I'm prioritizing my daughter's education 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: over his son's life, and he believes that medical needs 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: come first. He then asked my daughter if she would 99 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: be willing to use thirty thousand dollars from her fund 100 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: to pay for her stepbrother's rehab, which I feel is 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: very It's just like going over that feelnificant other's head. Yeah, right, 102 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: it feels kind of rude, yeah, like behind her back. 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Like you guys can be like like as a as 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: a unit, you need agree on something and then you 105 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: can ask. 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: But to ask without consent from your wife's feeling stepping 107 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: over a boundary. Absolutely, And she got very quiet and 108 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: did not answer. He then got very upset with her 109 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: and said that she was being selfish. My daughter later 110 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: told me that she didn't want to give her stepbrother 111 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: the money, but she felt so guilty. And I'm furious 112 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: at my husband for emotionally guilt tripping my daughter like that. Yeah, 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a very, very, very tough situation 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: because I do, on one hand, totally understand the husband's 115 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: perspective of like I am trying to do anything I 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: can to help my son, but you can't, like I think, 117 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: just break any boundary with your partner, try to get 118 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: this money, you know, Like I think it's really unfair too. 119 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: It's really unfair. I mean it's really unfair to the daughter. Yes, 120 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: it's really unfair to the late husband, and it's unfair 121 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: to the grandfather, Like they put money for this reason, 122 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: for this reason, and to not honor that reason, it's 123 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: to not honor everyone who contributed to. 124 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: That one hundred percent, which is I mean exactly what 125 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: OPC says. 126 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: Sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It totally sucks. 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: H And the thing though, is like will this sixty 128 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: day thing even help? Will it move the needle forward? Yeah? 129 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 2: Does this person even want to be helped at this point? 130 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: That's a question. I mean, yeah, we have I feel like, 131 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: probably the least context on his situation. 132 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: But yeah, it seems like is there an update? 133 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 2: There is no update? No update, damn. Yeah. So I mean, 134 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: I I I'm curious what, like, you know, our audience 135 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: would if there's any advice from any sort of what 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: do you guys think, like, yeah, would you do you 137 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: do you empathize with the whole reasoning like a life 138 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: is more important than education? Yeah, which I can see. 139 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: Or do you think like, hey, this money was for 140 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: my daughter, I'm not just going to spend it, even 141 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 2: thirty grand of it on doing a treatment that may 142 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 2: not may or may not work. Yeah. I wonder here, 143 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: here's here's here's a different situation. Yeah, okay, And I 144 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: wonder how you would feel about this, because I think 145 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: it changes it a little bit for me. If everything's 146 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: the same except instead of addiction, op is suffering from 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: like liver failure or like a heart disease that's like 148 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: completely not caused by anything that he's doing, right, you 149 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: know something that's happening. Yeah, you does anything change then? 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 2: About giving thirty grand? It's like, hey, yeah, my son 151 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: needs to have heart surgery for thirty grand or he'll die. 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: Here's the difference there. 153 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: The doctors can say, oh, he has a you know, 154 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: ninety four chance of survival or whatever. 155 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: What if it's fifty to fifty Still, it's. 156 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that that I think is way more approachable 157 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: because it's like, again something that like now I think, 158 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: like addiction is a disease, Like it's a very it's 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: a very complicated like thing. I don't think it's it's 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: definitely not as clear cut as like, oh, he's just 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: choosing to do this kind of a thing. But at 162 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's like something that just happens, 163 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: like an organ just fails for no reason other than 164 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: just natural causes, and and this this situation. So I 165 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: think it's a lot more reasonable and probably a lot 166 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: more worth compromise because I think the other thing OP 167 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: is thinking about is what happens if sixty grand fails 168 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: and I've already opened the door for them asking to money, 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: and then it's the rest of it. So it's almost 170 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: like the tip of the iceberg, and. 171 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 2: I could ease, I could easily see it not working 172 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 2: and then going down another rabbit hole one hundred percent 173 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: one hundred And I don't think that's fair to everyone 174 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: who invested in this. 175 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: It's unfortunately not fair. 176 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what, maybe it's not like OP 177 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 2: hasn't given contributor money to help. 178 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: And it's also like I know that OPI was shutting 179 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: it down. But like, I feel like there would be 180 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: at least more room to discuss if the husband had 181 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: not gone around in. 182 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: A total a hole move by going to. 183 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: Total a hole move. 184 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: And now this poor girl who, like you know, it's 185 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: not just her again, I think it's like all of her, 186 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: her dad and grandparents. Like now she's like putting a 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: picture on it on a sixteen year old, like on 188 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: a teenager. 189 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: That's really fucked up a lot. 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, not okay, But again, I think we would really 191 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: love to hear from every all of you guys if 192 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: you've experienced something similar, if you have any advice that 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: could help anyone that's going through this, we would definitely 194 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: appreciate that in the comments below. 195 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, get your answers in the comments, and let's get 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: into this next story. Let's do it. I just told 197 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: my kids they are inheriting nothing, and they're furious. Am 198 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: I the a hole? 199 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Listen as the wise Gary Vee says, your parents, Fuck 200 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: your parents, but also make money, fuck your children. How 201 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: did we go left so quick five seconds into the episode. 202 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: Huh? 203 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 3: All right, let's let's keep going. 204 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: My wife and I are both in our mid forties 205 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 2: and work full time. We have three children, twenty female, 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: seventeen female, and eleven male. We've both worked hard to 207 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: get where we are in our careers, and thankfully that 208 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: means we're able to provide a good life for our kids. 209 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: We aren't rich and we don't live beyond our means, 210 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: but our combined income is three hundred thousand dollars per year. 211 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: There you go, that's pretty good decrease taxes being married, 212 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: primo primo. Now here's the thing. If we want the 213 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: traditional route and saved heavily and worked another twenty five years, 214 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 2: we could properly retire at a decent age and still 215 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: leave a sizable inheritance for our kids. The thing is, 216 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 2: we don't want that for us or them. We worked 217 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: hard to get where we are, and we intend to 218 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: enjoy the rewards of what we have before we're elderly. 219 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: We also don't want our kids to be counting down 220 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: the days until we die so they can get our 221 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: money and never work again. Our plan is to retire 222 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: about the time our son graduates from high school. We'll 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: have enough money saved up to live comfortably and travel more, 224 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: and we intend to use all our money, every last 225 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: bit We have a rainy day fund, of course, and 226 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 2: we fully plan to use as much of her money 227 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: as possible. They'll get a portion of what we have 228 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: left once we both die, but they shouldn't expect anything. 229 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: We've never really brought this up with any of our kids. 230 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: For one, it's our money and our business, and for another, 231 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: they never asked. We did, however, explain that we aren't 232 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: giving them handouts as adults. We'll pay half of whatever 233 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: their school ends up costing, and that'll be the last 234 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: major money we ever give them. I recently had a 235 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 2: minor healthcare pre cancerous mole. I'm fine, and the topic 236 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: came up with our oldness about what our plans are. 237 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: I explained the money situation, and this really upset her. 238 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: She accused us of caring more about partying than her 239 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: and her siblings wellbeing. I explained that we'd rather them 240 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: make their own way in life life like we did, 241 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: and not wait for a handout. She told her sister, 242 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: and now they're both upset with my wife and I, 243 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: not just for the inheritance, but for not telling them sooner. 244 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there was any good reason to do that. 245 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: It isn't their business what happens to other people's money. Still, 246 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: I'm open to being wrong about that. So is OPDA hole. 247 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: So it is a kind of this weird perverse incentive 248 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, once I die, you get a 249 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: shipload of money. 250 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's never thought about it like that, ye daddy? 251 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh have you tried this double greaser big mac ever extra? 252 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna buy you one every day. 253 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: Because I love you. 254 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: Because I love you, I want you to be treated right. Yeah, Dad, 255 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: don't get up, don't get up to get that beer. 256 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 2: Let me get it for you. There we go. In fact, 257 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: let me let me get you a home delivery service 258 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: so you never have to go anywhere. A lazy bull 259 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: exercise exercise, just chill. And also did you eat the 260 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: bacon greaser cheeseburger that I gave you today? Oh? 261 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: You did you want? 262 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: Do you want another one? I keep keep it up, 263 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 2: keep it up. Oh? And also that all probably fine? 264 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: Who who listens to doctors anyway? They're quacks. They're quacks. 265 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: You know, they said we needed to put on you 266 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: know you masks outside during COVID, So what the fuck 267 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: did they know? 268 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: Nothing? 269 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: Clearly? Yeah, what is your take on inheritance to children. 270 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: I don't know. 271 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: I I it's at least my right now when I'm 272 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: thinking about my family, Like I know, my my grandparents 273 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: saved you know, like probably a few million or something 274 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 2: for their retirement, and they do plan on distributing it 275 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: to all the kids when they die, but there's ten kids, 276 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: so that like gets distributed diluted pretty quick. In terms 277 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: of my dad, I have not thought about or you 278 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: to your children, Yeah, but like I will, yeah, so 279 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: like get me that. But like in terms of like 280 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: my dad and my mom, I don't really expect to 281 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: anything not that like I won't, but I don't have 282 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: that expectation. Like I'm not waiting like oh shit, there's 283 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: like money in the coffers or like oh shit the 284 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: house or whatever. Like that's not really something that's on 285 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: my mind. And so I think it's kind of weird 286 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 2: to expect that you would get an inheritance from your 287 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: your parents, Like it just feels like not my money 288 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: and not not my thing to worry about, if anything, 289 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: like the thing I am well I want, like I 290 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 2: the thing that is mine to worry about is actually 291 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: like my parents' end of life care like that. I 292 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: see as on me hopefully have enough money that they 293 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: can care for it. But I see that as my responsibility. 294 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: So I honestly think of like it as reverse inheritance. Yeah, like, 295 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: not only do I have to respect to not inherit money, 296 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: but I expect to have to pay money as you know, 297 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: as my parents age same. I don't think necessarily that 298 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: maybe the case, but I don't know. In terms of 299 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: my own kids, I mean, I yeah, I would want 300 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: to pass them down something. Yeah, I would want to 301 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: pass like I was like, I want to create generational 302 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: wealth and all that. Yeah, but in terms of like 303 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: is that is that a mandatory thing for all people 304 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: to do? 305 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 3: Do I expect that? 306 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: Now? Yeah? Yeah? 307 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: I was. I was. 308 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: I was curious because I like, I'm I actually talked 309 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: to my dad or my dad mentioned to me like, 310 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: oh like your inheritance or whatever, da da, and I'm like, 311 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna donate it, because I. 312 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: Am going to donate it. 313 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: I listen, I fully expect to make all the money 314 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: that I need and end some Yeah, so I and 315 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: I just don't like that. However, talking to my partner 316 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: about it, she wants to set up an a state 317 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: for her family and her her descendants generational wealth speaking. 318 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: So I've always been I've always been like, do I 319 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: even kind of like this, like do I want to 320 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: not that. I was like, oh, I definitely don't want 321 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: to give my kids inheritance, but I was kind of 322 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: like on the fence a little bit. 323 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: Like fuck them just because of creates a perverse and 324 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: send those reasons. 325 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I don't know. 326 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: I was like, I will that be like this negative 327 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: thing if there's like an expectation, especially if they kind 328 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: of see and start to understand like that they would 329 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: inherit like everything when I'm gone. 330 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could also make them like not work or 331 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: achieve or or explore and kind of like exactly, it 332 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: like incentivizes this laziness almost. Yeah. 333 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: But I've also always said like, oh, if I have 334 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: a kid that like wants to be like a wildlife photographer, 335 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll probably give them just thirty grand a year just 336 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: so they can live like a completely fine, comfortable and 337 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: never have to like can go on a vacation, can 338 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, be okay, not like super rich, but if 339 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: they choose a profession that like isn't well paying, like 340 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: I want them to be able to pursue that and 341 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: like not be broke. 342 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 343 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm I've been thinking about it more recently, so I 344 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: was curious. 345 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: What that's interesting thought. I kind of liked that idea. Yeah, Like, 346 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean what I might do is just tell my kids, like, hey, 347 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: you're not getting a cent ever, right, right, and also 348 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: like even maybe bring them up to think that we're poor. 349 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 3: Right, but here's the problem you have to live for. 350 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna get like like like I'll just like 351 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: not take any videos or something. I'll take all these 352 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: vacations our only vacations to the waffle house experience. But 353 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 2: they have great education because we inherited a grant from 354 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 2: their grandparents to pay for their you know, private school 355 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 2: and stuff. 356 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: But now they're thinking about grants and and grandparents inheritance. 357 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but that's like that's just too far just 358 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: for school. Wait, if you got this for us, then this. 359 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna keep it under wraps. I think you 360 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: cannot hide that ship. I think that will be impossible. 361 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: I have I have friends that have no idea how 362 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: much they'll inherit. I have friends that like say, like, 363 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: you can't do a degree. One of my friends said said, 364 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: I think I'm inheriting between one and forty million dollars. 365 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: But that's see, that's like, you know, your parents are 366 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: probably are above middle class. For lack of a better 367 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: way of classifying it, I'm talking like, are they inheriting 368 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: debt or like. 369 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean but I think I think like 370 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: the difference between like one million dollar inheritance and like 371 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: a forty million dollar inheritance is like massive. 372 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: It is massive. But if we're starting at one million, 373 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: that's when that's when. Cause like even if they're not like, 374 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: oh I can retire on this, they're like, oh I 375 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: can chill. 376 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, so I don't know. I think I 377 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 2: don't know that you can chill on one million. 378 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Not that you're chilling, but you're like, all right, I 379 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: am going to which is kind of a good thing 380 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: mindset maybe, but it's like. 381 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: I am never going to work a job that I like. 382 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 2: I am like you like, and you're like, I will 383 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 2: work at falafel house, fucking do it. 384 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you get those. 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: You still have to work at, but you have like 386 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: think about right now, like what what you worked at 387 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: a flaffel place? Right I did, mister legendary the shut down, 388 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: by the way, fuck those guys. 389 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 390 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: You know, I'm actually very curious. 391 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people here, we have a 392 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of parents, lot of moms that watched the show. 393 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: So how are you thinking about for your children? What 394 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: your children plan to inherit from you? Yes, the exact 395 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 2: dollar amounts, and how you're telling them about that. 396 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: Whoever has the highest amount wins. 397 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and donate it to Okop, there we go. I 398 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: like that. Actually, maybe we've convinced you that you shouldn't 399 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: give it to your kids and you should donate to us. 400 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: We are a much better cause. 401 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 2: I can tell you that. Yeah, we will keep this 402 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: content coming for you. We'll make a whole show. If 403 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: you donate a million dollars, We'll make a whole show 404 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: specifically about your life and only about you. We will. 405 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: That's not a joke. That's not a joke. If you 406 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: give us a million dollars, we will create a whole 407 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 2: show based on your life stories. We will interview you 408 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: once a week and get all of your stories and 409 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: put him into Reddit format, maybe once a month. 410 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, But speaking of giving the people more content. 411 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: Let's get into this next story. 412 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Oo, I inherited all of the money and my brother, 413 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: with a disability, gets nothing. 414 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: I don't want to give him his share? Am I 415 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: the a whole? Not only have you been physically or 416 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: mentally disabled financially disabled? 417 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Jesus like, how how much more? Mad? 418 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: Sir? 419 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: My god, it'll be have some fucking mercy God. Okay, 420 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: let's let's well, let's get the full skip here. Let's 421 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: get the full skip. So I twenty nine male, and 422 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: my two brothers, Steve twenty seven and Harry twenty four, 423 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: recently lost our mother in January quite unexpectedly, a couple 424 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: of years after our father passed away. Now, Harry has 425 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: disabilities and won't ever fully live independently, but he's not 426 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: entitled to any support, and he'd react badly to it 427 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: because of his autism. 428 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: Interesting, let's says autistic not entitled to support from the government. 429 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 2: I see right. 430 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: But the key thing here is he isn't working and 431 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: probably never will. My parents, in agreement with my brothers, 432 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: left me all of the possessions to distribute as I 433 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: see fit. 434 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, interesting, that's a lot of power. 435 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: That's a lot of power and probably a lot of 436 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: money to distribute is icee fit between me, Steve and Harry, 437 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: with the assumption that Harry would benefit from a greater 438 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: share of the savings that Steve or I pay the 439 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: rent on the Council flat which is a government assisted 440 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: which is a government subsidized apartment he's received, and other living. 441 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 3: Costs as a family. 442 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: We all agreed that this was best, not least, as 443 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: Harry's becoming more independent as time goes on, and maybe 444 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: one day he will be able to get a job 445 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: and earn a modest living. 446 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 2: I mean, that makes sense. You don't want to get 447 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if his autistic and can't hold a job, 448 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: you don't want to give him like four hundred thousand dollars. 449 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: Yes, but it's also wild that they didn't sit down 450 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: like I mean, laughing at it. 451 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: It's like, is that not true? Well, I well, I imagine, 452 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: I imagine if it was, Like I have to guess 453 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: the smart way is to do it to in a 454 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: state for him with maybe a got like there's like 455 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: power of attorney. I know, if you were going to 456 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: trust more than his brother, that's okay, So okay, maybe 457 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: that's essentially what this is because I'm like, but but 458 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: giving it to they basically are like, hey, the brother, 459 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 2: you have everything, and then you distribute it versus like, 460 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: this is Harry's money. 461 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 3: You can decide how it's spent on Harry. 462 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 2: Oh that is. 463 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 3: The difference here. 464 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: And they sat down, They sat down to decide to 465 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: give Harry the money. So it's weird that they didn't 466 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: decide to sorry, to ope to money. 467 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like like, I mean, what if OP could 468 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: like invest it or like you know, like just can 469 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 2: can grow rather than if it's just spent on Harry 470 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: then it never grows. 471 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: Yes, but I have to imagine there's a way to say, hey, 472 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: spin this on Harry's behalf, which could also be an investment. 473 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: Yeah that like that basically right now the brother has 474 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: the power to completely spend all of it. From my 475 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: understanding of yaye, we got the best setup. Maybe maybe 476 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: not the best setup. 477 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: Maybe. 478 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Now sadly that's not happened before my mom's passing, and 479 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: now I don't know what to do. 480 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh so it hasn't been distributed like that before the 481 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: mom's passing, So now it's like whatever the court decides. 482 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Oh I see right, Okay that yeah, that changes everything 483 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: a lot too. I think keeping money back for Harry 484 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: feels smartest. But Steve wants a third of everything now, Okay, 485 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: he just straight up wants his cut immediately, which. 486 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: Is I don't think is a terrible expectation, not. 487 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 3: A terrible expectation. 488 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: But I'm also like kind of like what we were 489 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: saying on the last story, Like I'm like, I don't 490 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: expect anything from an inheritance, so why not have my 491 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: brother who could really use it? 492 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: Like why not? Like I mean, it's like use the 493 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: other third for your brother? Yeah yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 494 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: yeah yeah. 495 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: But the problem is if yeah, the problem is is 496 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: the is the three? 497 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: Is one third enough? I guess right. 498 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: I've suggested we all take a smaller share ten percent 499 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: for now, and keep the rest to support Harry, and 500 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: then if he doesn't need it in the future, then 501 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: obviously Steve will get his share of the third. I 502 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: think that's a fantastic idea, right, get you get some now, 503 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: take ten percent. You know it's not nothing, and if 504 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: it's never used then you can get all of it back. 505 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: Right. 506 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 2: Pretty reasonable. It's like, essentially this is insurance if Harry 507 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: never works. 508 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: Because also, what if something happens and like, uh, you know, uh, 509 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: what's the other brother? If Steve blows his third and 510 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: then and then they're like need more, we need more money, 511 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: but now it's gone versus like this is a very 512 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: fail safe solution. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. Steve is 513 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: not happy and he's calling me an asshole. He won't 514 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: answer my calls, and his friends are blowing up on me. 515 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: The situation feels unwinnable as I want to support Harry, 516 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: but I can see Steve's side. 517 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: I mean, he feels entitled to that money, but he isn't. 518 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 2: I guess if OP is if OP decides because he's 519 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: the decider. Maybe the parents set it up that way 520 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: because they the other guy. Uh, Steve is not good 521 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 2: with money. That is a good theory. 522 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: I'm thinking maybe I should just give him a third, 523 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: even if it means I might not end up receiving anything. 524 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole for holding firm? 525 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: There's one click edit edit to clarify if Harry doesn't 526 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: need the money, Steve will get his full share of 527 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: a third of my parents possession. 528 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 3: Well, when when do you decide that he doesn't need 529 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: the money? That's a good question. 530 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: That is a good question when he turns eighteen, like 531 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: how old? How old is. 532 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: He's above eighteen? I believe he is twenty four. I 533 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: think I think probably because you know how he was 534 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, if he he's he's improving now and 535 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: he might be able to earn a job, get a 536 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: job and earn like a modest living. Maybe that's what 537 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: he means. So it's like, Okay, he's earning you know, 538 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: thirty k year. This is looking pretty solid now he 539 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: can distribute the rest, but it's probably also fully up 540 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: up to them. 541 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I think it's hard. I like being Steve. 542 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, if I'm really want that money, I'm like, 543 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: when am I going to get that? That seems like 544 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 2: it seems like, yeah, it could be never because. 545 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: For op Opie's like, oh I can always decide for me, 546 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: Like it feels so much clearer being in control of 547 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: it versus like someone else is deciding for you. And like, 548 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: to your point, I do think it is pretty fair 549 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: of like, hey, there's three brothers, it's a third you know. 550 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: That seems fair. 551 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: There's something there. 552 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: But again there's something is the person put in control 553 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: for a reason and he can decide what he wants. 554 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: I think he'll ruin his relationship with his brother though 555 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 2: if his brother feels he's entitled to thirty thirty percent 556 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: thirty three percent. 557 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: I think your theory of the parents kind of trusted Ope, 558 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: and they were like, hey, we think that you will 559 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: do whatever's best for Harry. Because also, like again like 560 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: we were talking, like it sounds like Steve or Ope, 561 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: They're they're doing fine. They're able to kind of like 562 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: go out and you know, pursue what they want out 563 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: of life. So at that point, I'm kind of just 564 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: like it's on you versus like, hey, here's here's a 565 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: family member who like we have the funds for it. 566 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: Also could reduce the stress for Stephen Harry because imagine 567 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: if they ran out of money, the stress that would 568 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: be on them. Like for me, I would value it's 569 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: like purchasing peace of mind. 570 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 2: So we value as stress free life than like the 571 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: extra cash. 572 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So I don't know, Honestly, I'm 573 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: wondering now. 574 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: It's like I wonder about what my parents have there 575 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: set up it like as if they die, like do 576 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: they did they give it all to me? Or did 577 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 2: they split it equally between me and my sister? I 578 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: have to imagine split equally, that's what it is. 579 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, like I I'm I would assume that uh Op's 580 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: parents did this uh because of Harry's disability and they 581 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: knew that he would probably need some extra support. Yeah, 582 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: but that's that's tricky one. 583 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: Tricky one, tricky one. I mean, what would you do 584 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: if you were the mom? How would you allow the 585 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: finances to trickle down to the sun? So one is disabled, 586 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: one is OP, and one like you know, is not 587 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: disabled but may not be good with money. Who knows? 588 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: How how would you put it? How would you trickle 589 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 2: it down? And what would you do with your op? 590 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: Would love to know your comments in the comments. But 591 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: though my brother is bullied mercilessly and I don't care. 592 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: He kind of deserves it. Am I the man? You know? 593 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: They say that tough love is the best love. They do, 594 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 2: That's exactly what they say. Yeah, yeah, I actually think 595 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: my bullying built my character. I think I'm a more 596 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: resilient I actually believe this. I am or a resilient 597 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: human because I got kicked in the nuts in middle school. 598 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Would there be a Samuel donner without a saladary be. 599 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: This podcast if my nuts weren't traumatized, I don't think so. 600 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: So I'm all about that nut trauma. 601 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: We we You might not have billions of sperm, but 602 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: we have thousands of content episodes so. 603 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: That we do, and thousands of loyal followers and subscribers. 604 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 2: We love you the okay fam, that's right, let's get 605 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: into this episode. So, my brother Darren, fifteen male, is 606 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: getting bullied in quotes online in his and my parents' word, 607 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: I mean, in my opinion, which might be kind of bad. 608 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: I think he deserves it, damn loyal. Basically, he slid 609 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: into a girl's DMS, got rejected, and unleashed a ton 610 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: of disgusting sexist abuse on her. The girl made an 611 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: insta post about it that got shared around the kids 612 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 2: at our school, and then a bunch of people commented 613 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: about how he had done similar things to them. 614 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: So that's the bullying is people being like yo, stop 615 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: being in a soul. 616 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, it sounds like he was an ethole and 617 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: then got his come up and for being an athole. 618 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: That's I feel like that's just it's a two way stress. 619 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: This bullying is as a purpose. 620 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know this bullying has a great purpose exactly, 621 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: like why do we have prison? You tell me, for 622 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 2: people who do bad things? Why do we have the 623 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: death penalty? Why? Sam? Actually I don't think we should 624 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 2: have the death penalty. But bullying is good for this kid. 625 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: He didn't kill all the bullies, killed all the bullies. 626 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: Murder every bully. That's right, that's that's our punishment. But actually, 627 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: maybe castration. This guy needs to be castrated. You know 628 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: he's looking at me like I'm saying something bad here. 629 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 3: When you take a stand, you take a stand. 630 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: Let's go like old school Biblical. You know, he who 631 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: shall slither into the d MS without respect shall lose 632 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: both testicles. 633 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that's a bad one. Bad DM slide and. 634 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: More test chopped off. 635 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: You'll solve the problem, bold move that is true, That 636 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: would solve the problem. Drive gone. It was honestly disturbing 637 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: to read. And while I knew my brother was kind 638 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: of off, I didn't think he was this bad. I 639 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 2: read that he called a black girl an ugly and word. 640 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: Once they got into an argument about politics. Why would 641 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: you get into an argument about politics that's throwing someone 642 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 2: like with someone who's thrown racial slurs around. It's like 643 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: they've already lost credibility. 644 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this kid, I think is basically like so 645 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: in Selle, so in Selly, so like in his own world, 646 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: so in this in this kind of like the cycle 647 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: of stupidity that he doesn't even understand. 648 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: I don't even know in cells could be combined with racists. 649 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: It's like a it's possible, all the ists in soull 650 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: he's like the Thanos of the Infinity Stones of dumb 651 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: exactly and being a being a bigot, and a lot 652 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: of other people have awful experiences with him as well. 653 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: Her post currently has over one thousand likes, so a 654 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: lot of people had seen it. Damn. 655 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not an Okyo p episode. 656 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, Well, just think about 657 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 2: this now, this post is gonna get even more views 658 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 2: and more episode and more legs, and so we're gonna 659 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: we're gonna just absolutely destroy this man's whole life. That's right, 660 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: this in Cell's life. You deserve it. You deserve to 661 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 2: be in a cell. No nuts, wow, nutless. My brother 662 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: is currently suspended in the school's deciding on what they 663 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: should do moving forward. Suspension feels like the right move. However, 664 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 2: my parents are furious with me for not sticking up 665 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: for him or defending him. They have punished him, but 666 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: they're currently in the midicatory period in order to try 667 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 2: to protect his future, which I mean, they're their parents, 668 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: you know, makes sense. They want to make sure that 669 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: he's not totally fed. Yeah. 670 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, he just sounds like a kid that like just 671 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: started clicking on all these like the crazy wormholes and 672 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: just got sucked in and is just I. 673 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: Think he's doing one hundred percent a terrible thing. Yeah, 674 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,239 Speaker 2: deserves to be reprimanded if he's young enough. I mean, 675 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: I don't think it's what you should be ruined. Yeah, like, 676 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: like take this as an opportunity to educate, Like, let's 677 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: not destroy his life, which will probably only cement him 678 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: worse in his ways. A thing, Let's take this opportunity 679 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: to say, you were being bad, but not necessary have 680 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: you don't have you not are bad forever. Yeah, you 681 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: can redeem yourself. Let's let's try to turn the ship around. 682 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: Probably the best chance of him actually like seeing. 683 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: How wrong he is exactly, It's true that it's getting 684 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: pretty bad. He gets hateful DMS every day, and there's 685 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 2: even a Darren hate page I guess his name is 686 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: Darren on Instagram with dozens of followers. A lot of 687 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: his friends have cut ties with him, and he's constantly 688 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 2: crying or angry. He's scared for his future and his 689 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: mental health has taken a toll. I've gotten backlash too 690 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: for being a sister, and I've had to explain to 691 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: numerous people in my DMS that I don't condone his behavior. 692 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: I think it's absolutely disgusting, et cetera. My parents and 693 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: Darren expect me to make some sort of statement of 694 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: solidarity for him, or at least tell people to move on, 695 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: but I don't want to. For one, that get people 696 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: mad at me. But two, I honestly think he deserves 697 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: all of this for what he did. I told him 698 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: that I think his future college slash career prospects are 699 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: probably wrecked, but there was no one to blame but himself. 700 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would say that again, like 701 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: in the thought of like making sure he doesn't dive 702 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: deeper into these ways. Yeah, show him that. Hey, if 703 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 2: you turn this around and admit that you're being a 704 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 2: total asshole and see the error of your ways. Maybe 705 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: there is a future for you. Yeah, you know, don't 706 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 2: like completely destroy this man's it's. 707 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Also giving like just like a big sister energy where 708 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: it's like you stupid little fit, like you're not going 709 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: to get like he's. 710 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 2: A stupid little Yeah, he's a stupid what. 711 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's like it's like that's like the very 712 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: like the super empathetic, like try to make him grow 713 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: approach versus like, this is my annoying little brother and 714 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: he's being. 715 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 3: Like a total beyond yeah, beyond beyond annoying brother. 716 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: Like yeah, he's legitimately being a terrible person, yes, but again, 717 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: try to turn the ship around. Yeah, unless I mean 718 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: unless he doesn't give it and then sink your brother 719 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: sink it. That sent him into a spiral of wailing 720 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: and rage, and my parents are incredibly angry that I 721 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 2: don't support him because quote, he can change and ultimately 722 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: he's my brother and I need to be on his 723 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 2: side when the whole world is against him. There isn't 724 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 2: eda to answer a common question. He has given a 725 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: public apology, but it felt really insincere to me since 726 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: he only said it after the girl's post started getting traction. 727 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: When she first posted it, he DMed her with threats 728 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: and insults to take it down. Also, I didn't say 729 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: his future prospects were gone as in he couldn't grow 730 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: and not be sexist or racist, just that in a 731 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 2: practical sense he wasn't going to be getting into a 732 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: really good college slash become a politician like he wanted. 733 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 2: Man is making all the wrong political He's trying. 734 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: To become how you build a career in politics. 735 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: But is Op the a hole for saying what she 736 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: did and not being on his side? What do you think? 737 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: I want to know what everyone else thinks in the conference? 738 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 2: What would you do if this was your brother? 739 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 3: What would you do? 740 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: And too, Surnaris? What would you do with this with 741 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 2: your brother? And you didn't care, you know, didn't have 742 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 2: a relationship with him, But what if you did? What 743 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: if this came out about like your current sibling that 744 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 2: you may may have a good relationship with, what would 745 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 2: you do? 746 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, John, I'm curious your thoughts one hundred percent? 747 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: Like it's so it's really an ahole move on the 748 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: parents to try and force Op to come up with 749 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 1: this like statement of. 750 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: Solidarity or whatever. She's like she doesn't believe it. 751 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I at first it seems like okay, they 752 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: were like trying to steer him on the right course 753 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: and like you know, trying to figure it out, but 754 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: like basically being like, oh no, he's okay, it's fine, 755 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Like I stand with him. Like that doesn't help him 756 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,919 Speaker 1: learn anything exactly, Like and then also, like Opie said, 757 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: like it puts it on her, like, oh now I'm 758 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna catch off. 759 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,959 Speaker 3: She's already catching a lot of smoke. 760 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, why should she catch more heat for something this 761 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: guy did? 762 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. 763 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 2: So I think that that's a very bad parenting move 764 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 2: on the airport on their part in trying to came 765 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 2: out about your sister or something. Right, your sister's the same. 766 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: And then you just find obviously your sister would never 767 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: do this. Yeah yeah, hyde world, hypothetical world, this came 768 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 2: out about your sister. You have the relationship that you 769 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 2: do with her, right now, what would you do? 770 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: First step, you have to like sit down with them 771 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: and like really have a like deep one on one 772 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: conversation to understand like, Okay, where did this come from? 773 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: Like especially with this kid, like where did this come from? 774 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: Like like like as as neutral as possible, just to 775 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: asserting like where is his head at? What is what 776 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: are the triggers that are like causing him to go 777 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: down these like different wormholes. And then the second thing 778 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: is like I think if anyone asks you one, I 779 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: don't think there's any public statement too. If anyone ever asked, 780 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: you'd be like, yeah, like that was like super fcked up. 781 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 1: I love my sister and like it seemed super out 782 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: of character for her to do that, but she needs 783 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: to be held accountable, and like I'm trying to hold 784 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: her accountable on that and help her like grow and change. Yeah, 785 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: see why that's wrong. Yeah, I feel like that is 786 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: what the parents should tell the sisters, Like, hey, if 787 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: anyone ever asks or anything like this, just be like, yeah, 788 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: like what he said is completely wrong. I don't agree 789 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: with it at all, but I'm trying to work with 790 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: him so that we he can get better and do better. 791 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 792 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: I feel like, do you think the sister is being 793 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 2: as empathetic as she could be or should be? 794 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's probably like like what you were 795 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: saying with like this the schools and opportunities and stuff 796 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: like that, like that's not as far as like, how 797 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: do we get him to start working on his mindset 798 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: as quickly as possible? 799 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 3: Being like, oh, yeah, your future is ruined. 800 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,799 Speaker 2: Is probably not the move the best way to everything else. 801 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 2: I think that she's been saying. And besides that, I 802 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: feel like has been is pretty glass the right decision. 803 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 3: She seems pretty level headed. 804 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 2: But I mean, like, I'm really curious what all of 805 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 2: you guys think. What would you do with this was 806 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: your sibling, your brother, your sister, maybe even your cousin 807 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: if you don't have a brother or sister, or your friend, 808 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 2: if you don't have a brother, sister, or cousin, or 809 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't know, like your kebab shop coffee barista person 810 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 2: that you really like and talk to every day. Shout out, Vinnie, 811 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 2: who's my barista person? Here? What would you do if 812 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 2: any of those people came out with these comments? Put 813 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: your answers in the comments below. In John, I want 814 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: to hear this next story. My girlfriend is getting too 815 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 2: friendly with my high school bully. So I went off 816 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 2: on her. Am I the ahle because you have a 817 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 2: cuckhold fetish and by going off, you mean exploded your 818 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,839 Speaker 2: sweet juices on her while she was getting deep and 819 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 2: down and dirty with your bully. He couldn't hold it in. 820 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: He couldn't hold it in. 821 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 2: It's like, girl, it's so hot. Would you cook me 822 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: like that with the guy that cucked me my whole life? 823 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: I just got a bust. I love when Riley looks 824 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: at me like that. We'veout all that judgment has aviator, 825 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 2: so we can't see his full reaction. Yeah, come on, 826 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: let's let's let's see those peepers. Yeah, yeah, got older. 827 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 2: Ah ah ooh baby, I went full frontal of your reactions. 828 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 2: We could honestly say anything about Riley and they wouldn't know. 829 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: What can he do? 830 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 831 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like literally naked right now. Oh he dude, 832 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: he's he's naked. His wiener is covered in mosquito bites. 833 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: He actually might be true, which honestly he did on purpose. 834 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 2: He covered it with honey, and he's like, hey, I 835 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 2: heard this will help it grow twelve inches. I mean 836 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 2: it probably we've got a python right now, little ridges 837 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 2: like that's probably for your pressure. Yeah, bumpy for your pressure. 838 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 2: There we go. That's what they said about herpes too. 839 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 3: See bumpy for your pressure. 840 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 2: Riley, you got the herb. 841 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 3: You're never giving our producer a mic. 842 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, we will just forever say things and you will 843 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: just assume that it is correct because it is. 844 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 2: Yes, just be careful on Riley Man. Just make sure 845 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,840 Speaker 2: you wrap it rap before you tap it. Before you 846 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,240 Speaker 2: tap it rap. You really don't be silly wise words 847 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 2: from our producer Riley. 848 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,760 Speaker 1: Me twenty six male and my girlfriend twenty six female 849 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: met in high school. We became really good friends. She 850 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: was basically my only friend in school, and we decided 851 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: to go to the same university so we wouldn't drift 852 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: apart when we. 853 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: Never end poorly. 854 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a little story at the little story 855 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: that I'll say for the end of the story about 856 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: the you know, post high school, you know, romantic entanglements. Yeah, yeah, 857 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that. There's a lot of those, 858 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: a lot of those. When we were in university. I 859 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: finally asked her out and we've been dating ever since. 860 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 2: You chose your university based off a girl that you 861 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 2: wanted to be your girlfriend. 862 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: You didn't ask beforehand. 863 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 2: He just needed a little more time. You know, that's crazy, 864 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 2: That is that is your whole life trajectory for a friend. 865 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: Because he was trying to like phrase it away like oh, 866 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 1: we both decided to, but it's like, bro, you low key. 867 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 2: Like low key decided because oh my god, come on, 868 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 2: I got into Harvard, went to like Florida State. It's 869 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: wrong with Florida actually from Florida State, because go getors there, 870 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: you go. 871 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: So to sum up my time in high school, it 872 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: was an awful time. I was very lonely, introverted, and 873 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: quiet in both high school and middle school, so I 874 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: was prone to getting bullied. 875 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 2: I was heavily bullied by this guy, let's. 876 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: Call him Louise, Louise, Louise, how dare you? And his 877 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: group of friends. He would poke fun at my eye condition, 878 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: intentionally embarrass me and make me uncomfortable in front of everyone. 879 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: What's his eye condition? Is he blind? When he said 880 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,319 Speaker 2: eye condition, I thought of, like he's wearing glasses. Maybe 881 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: he has like a more. 882 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: Eyes my eye condition. 883 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 2: Stop. 884 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: Maybe I am actually genetic. You know people have like 885 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 1: like birthmarks or like other things like right. 886 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 2: That's that's what I assumed, But like I don't know, 887 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: or maybe he doesn't have like maybe as like a 888 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 2: like a pirate eye patch too, And Louis is. 889 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 3: Just like. 890 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 2: It's Op, don't steal me booty. Ope, everyone that has 891 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 2: an eye patch watching the show is pissed. 892 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 3: You guys rightly? 893 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: So Yeah, they would call me all kinds of names 894 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: and just made my life in school hell rough Im sorry, Op. 895 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: This was majorly traumatizing because school was supposed to be 896 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: a safe place for me because I was getting emotionally 897 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: abused by my family at home. 898 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 2: That sucks. I'm really sorry. I was initially being like, 899 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 2: what do you mean? School was supposed to be a 900 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 2: safe place. School is the least safe place? Yeah? Yeah, 901 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: but I think you should expect to be bullied at school. 902 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, basic kids are terrible. 903 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: Basically like I feel like, expect to be bullied at school, 904 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 2: expect love at home? Yes, Ope, got neither. That sucks. 905 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: We feel for YOUP. I'm sorry man, but he ruined 906 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: any chances of it being a safe place for me 907 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: by making every day horrible. 908 00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 3: Oh, pe, I just want. 909 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: To give you a big hug. Yeah. Maybe some contacts, Yeah, 910 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 2: some contacts. She didn't have to wear the classes for 911 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 2: his condition. I thought you made contacts like like, oh, 912 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 2: let me fill up his rolodex of some let's beef 913 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 2: up his network. 914 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 3: A little bit mate. I mean that would probably help too. 915 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, if you're like friends with. 916 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: Like I started LinkedIn, there go the solution to bullying 917 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 1: a strong LinkedIn profile. Hey, we can bully someone with 918 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: four years of experience analyzing data. My girlfriend was aware 919 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: of his bullying situation at the time, and when we 920 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: became closer friends, she always comforted me about it and 921 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: sympathized with me when I vented about it. 922 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: Oh that's sweet. I'm glad. 923 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 3: I'm glad Opie had somebody. 924 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: She agreed that they were very cruel for no reason, 925 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't deserve it at all. She told me 926 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: she hated them for hurting me like that. I sensed 927 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: the tithes of shifting. Fast forward to now, Oh God, 928 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,240 Speaker 1: and what the problem actually is. We were out together 929 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 1: walking the dog and I told her I'd jogged to 930 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 1: nearby store real quick, pick up some cigarettes, and come 931 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 1: back while she stayed at the park. 932 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 2: First mistake. The person's like, oh, being addicted to cigarettes, Yes, 933 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: maybe your girlfriend wouldn't try to leave you. Oh God, 934 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 2: for a better man. 935 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: You know it doesn't smoke, Your teeth are yellow, the 936 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 1: breath is stinky, like you're gonna die. 937 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 2: That's one. That's one. That's one critique that we could 938 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 2: cigarette structive like hours of your life. 939 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 3: That's what the science says. That's what the science says. 940 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 3: What the science says. 941 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 2: Bro, you think you're all cool, but guess what smoking killed? Yeah, 942 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 2: that's right, smoking kill from your boys at okop, don't 943 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 2: do it. 944 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 3: Don't smoke. If you think about smoking, don't don't. 945 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: Can we become the like middle school elementary school like like, 946 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,720 Speaker 1: uh oh. 947 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: What is it? 948 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: Dear year program? Smoke was like the US have to 949 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 2: scream at kindergarteners for like a good cause. I got 950 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 2: a great one. 951 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, we said we do it with the boys, right, 952 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: we'll like the we sit down with like the middle 953 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: school boys and be like, hey, boys, you know cigarettes. 954 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 2: It's like a little cylinder. I didn't know you like 955 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: sucking penis. Oh instant will stop stop smoking campaign? 956 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: Middle school? 957 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 2: What I would like to do, you know, like twenty 958 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 2: one Jump Street. Yep, I want to do that, but 959 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,280 Speaker 2: for kindergarteners. Dressed as a kindergartener and offer kindergartener cigarettes. 960 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 2: If they take it, smack it out of their hand, 961 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:10,760 Speaker 2: put them in prison. Genius. 962 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 1: That's basically the plot line of the show Cops. I've 963 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: ever seen the show. No, literally, they will put like 964 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: straight up a like a Ferrari on the street and 965 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,719 Speaker 1: open both the doors and just wait for someone to 966 00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: get in it. And then they have like a lock control. 967 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: They locked the person in and they cannot get out. 968 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: I want to do that with kindergartens and cigarettes, Cops, 969 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 2: but Jendergarden needs to know this. Jen the next generation 970 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: needs to know how bad smoking is. Anyway, back to 971 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 2: the story why I try on smoking a side, I 972 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: have a quick story about smoking. I'll talk about it. 973 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: Two very quick juicy nuggets for you to give me 974 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: those juicy quick nugs. So when I was walking back, 975 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: I noticed her talking to someone from a distance. She 976 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: seemed all cheerful and laughing. 977 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh no. 978 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: They talked for a bit and he walked away in 979 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. So I come up to her and 980 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: I asked her what's up. She nonchalantly smiles and says 981 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:07,959 Speaker 1: it was Luis. 982 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 2: From my school. 983 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: No, not with a smile. 984 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 2: That's tough. That's tough. 985 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 1: I awkwardly chuckled and said, whoa. You were seriously happy 986 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: to talk with that guy? She says, sure. I told her, 987 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: you do remember he was the person that basically made 988 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: my life a living hell in high school? 989 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: Right? 990 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: She told me, yeah, I remember, but I'm sure he 991 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: has changed and he seemed really sweet. Come on, I 992 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: don't feel like that has a twelve inch hog and 993 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: super good looking. 994 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 995 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: I was looking at that egg plant point thinking damn hoppy. 996 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, you might have beat up my boyfriend middle school, 997 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: but you beat up this box baby. God take that 998 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 2: FedEx extra loge, extra lodge, boom, instant delivery five seconds 999 00:46:53,320 --> 00:47:00,439 Speaker 2: unless but a boom Louise. That's what he says every 1000 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 2: time you finishes to be funny, gotta love it. 1001 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 3: I just imagining next hook up. I'm Sam. That's pretty funny. 1002 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 2: It's pretty funny. Just if you get a second date. 1003 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: Doing is it? 1004 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 2: Do it and then report back on Sam's love chronicles, right, 1005 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. One time a friend told 1006 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 2: me to say, I'm spilling my ghost babies on you, 1007 00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 2: and I did it nice. 1008 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what's happening at this point, Guys, 1009 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm coming on someone's back. I'm just lost ghost babies. 1010 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 1: It's not a ghost baby, it's like my sperm that 1011 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: would have been like a real child. And it's dying 1012 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: on your back. It's like a it's like a graveyard. 1013 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 3: Fair enough, What about like carrying daycare on your back? 1014 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 2: Like I mean that's good too, you know, but like that, 1015 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 2: they're dying, you know, and so they're and they look 1016 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 2: it's white. It look like a little ghosts. You know what. 1017 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 2: I've come around. I've come around, That's what That's what 1018 00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,720 Speaker 2: I did. Let's finish the story. Mom. I'm so sorry. 1019 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 3: It's late in the day. 1020 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: Guys, I got pretty mad at that point and didn't 1021 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: say anything. 1022 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 3: She notices the awkward silence. 1023 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: It says, Ah, dude, come on, do you seriously still 1024 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: have a grudge against him? I thought you'd be over 1025 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 1: it by now. 1026 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 2: Holy shot. 1027 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: That felt like a knife through my stomach. It's not 1028 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,799 Speaker 1: that effing easy to get over years of trauma that 1029 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,480 Speaker 1: sabotaged my self esteem in confidence. It was so hurtful 1030 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: to hear coming from her, especially because she was my 1031 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: rock during those times while I was getting abused by 1032 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: everyone at school and home. I still don't hate the 1033 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: guy and his friends after all this time has passed, 1034 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: or want them to suffer or whatever. But it's not 1035 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: easy at all to forget what they did to me. Sure, 1036 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 1: maybe they changed for the better, but seeing her talk 1037 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 1: to him so cheerfully and telling me about. 1038 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 2: It made me die inside. Am I the a hole 1039 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:47,319 Speaker 2: for this? 1040 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: There is a update, decently meaty update, but I'm curious 1041 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: everyone watching and Sam like, what do you do in 1042 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: this scenario? Someone like your your worst high school bully 1043 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: rises up your significant and You're just like, what do 1044 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 1: I do? 1045 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first off, we don't know. 1046 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 2: This isn't a legitimate riz Like her being kind to 1047 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 2: a guy that she hasn't seen in ages is disgusting? 1048 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 3: Is un exactly gross? I think it's fine. 1049 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,280 Speaker 2: I think it's fine, Like you should be nice to people, 1050 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: like if my high school bully talked to or I 1051 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,399 Speaker 2: didn't really have high school boyes, but my middle school 1052 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: bully talked to you know, my current girlfriend or something, 1053 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 2: I would even if she knew about it, I would 1054 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 2: expect her to be nice and kind. Yeah, if she's 1055 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,799 Speaker 2: like touching the chest, feeling up the arms, laughing a 1056 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 2: little bit too much, Hey, can I get your number? 1057 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 2: Sending nudes? Then I'm gonna be like, all right, that's 1058 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 2: not cool, yeah. I also feel like it's like a 1059 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 2: little bit depending on how flirty your girlfriend is with 1060 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 2: other guys and depending on what kind of style of 1061 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 2: relationship you have. I think it's a little bit of 1062 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 2: a red flag. Like I had an ex that was 1063 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: like very flirty with her guy friends, and it was 1064 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: just like I saw it early on, and then it 1065 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 2: became a problem later. Yeah, And there's like a difference 1066 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,359 Speaker 2: between having guy friends, which is fine, and then like 1067 00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 2: actively being physical with them, which is I think less okay, 1068 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 2: because like it can communicate that she may be open 1069 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,040 Speaker 2: to being physical. 1070 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: I've never been in a relationship like like that, but 1071 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 1: definitely have scene relationships where the person is just naturally 1072 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: like very you know, to the point of like, uh, 1073 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: could be perceived as flirtatious by a lot of people. 1074 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 2: And like with that ex girlfriend, Like I actually talked 1075 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,400 Speaker 2: to a guy today that was like good friends with 1076 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 2: that ex girlfriend in distance him from her or distance 1077 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 2: himself from her, and he was like, yeah, like she 1078 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 2: was like touchy to the point where it made me uncomfortable. 1079 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 2: And I think, like that's like that's one are the 1080 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 2: reasons we broke up. But like, yeah, yeah, it's like 1081 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: I think that if it's taken to that far, I 1082 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 2: don't think that's okay. But like a like a you know, 1083 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 2: a conversation that's like not physical, it could be. 1084 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 3: Op embellishing it because of it's such. 1085 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: A raw Yeah, exactly, you know understandable that it's a 1086 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:56,720 Speaker 1: raw experience. 1087 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,560 Speaker 2: What do you think is too flirtatious for your partner? Like, 1088 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: what are your what are your flirtation boundaries? Yep, put 1089 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 2: your answers in the comments boundaries? But John, I want 1090 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 2: to hear this meaty update. Let's get into it. 1091 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: Basically, everything was kind of tense between us after we 1092 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 1: went home yesterday. When I woke up the next morning, 1093 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: my girlfriend told me we needed to talk, so I agreed. 1094 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: I was going to ask her first, but she beat 1095 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: me to it. She asked me if I was still 1096 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,839 Speaker 1: upset about yesterday, So I told her that I was, 1097 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: and I explained that hearing that he's a sweet guy 1098 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: from her was really painful, especially when she knew about 1099 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 1: the stuff he did to me. I told her that 1100 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 1: being friendly like that towards people who tormented me wasn't 1101 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: something I accept and obviously explained that her get over 1102 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: at comment was out of pocket and unnecessary. I told 1103 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: her how him becoming a better person was kind of 1104 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: irrelevant to me, because no matter how much he's changed, 1105 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: the consequence of his actions will always stick with me. 1106 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: She listened to me explaining, and she started crying in 1107 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: the middle of it, and said that she was incredibly 1108 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,319 Speaker 1: sorry and that she didn't think too much of it 1109 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: at the moment and failed. 1110 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 3: To consider my feelings. 1111 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 2: Oh it's really nice. 1112 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 3: It's a nice response, she said. 1113 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 2: After I explained it from my POV, she realized she 1114 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: was being the a hole and it was a stupid 1115 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 2: assumption that the trauma would go away over time and 1116 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 2: I would forget about it. 1117 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 1: We understood where each of us was coming from, and 1118 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: I forgave her. She was very genuine about it, and 1119 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: I know that she's not a malicious person and wouldn't 1120 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: want to intentionally hurt me, even if it did hurt. 1121 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: There was a bunch of people telling me to break 1122 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: up with her. In the comments, man, divorce chant just 1123 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 1: always goes, always goes, always. 1124 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 2: A divorce chant in the comments guys, good gravy. I 1125 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,840 Speaker 2: don't know if redda it gives the best relationship advice. 1126 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 2: The jury is still out don't take relationship advice from 1127 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,359 Speaker 2: people who are single. That's true. 1128 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 3: It's true. 1129 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: That's true. That's true. 1130 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 3: It is true, they're single. 1131 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 2: Why would you take relationship advice from someone who's in 1132 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 2: a state that you don't want to be in? 1133 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 3: That's true. 1134 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:47,359 Speaker 1: Would I take investment advice from someone who's broke the 1135 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: firefight person? 1136 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 2: Guy? 1137 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 3: No, No, it's not the move. It's not the move. 1138 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 1: And I see why to some other people this would 1139 00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: be a complete deal breaker. But in my opinion, relationships 1140 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: obviously come with their ups and downs, miss unders standings, 1141 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: and conflicts like this one. So I forgave her for 1142 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: this and I moved on, especially when she realized what 1143 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: she did was wrong and apologize. 1144 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 2: In what a world? This is a complete deal breaker? Yeah, 1145 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: talking to what the you got reddit? Get it together? 1146 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 3: This is way too much. You're put it in a bag. 1147 00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 3: Get it together, pack pack it. 1148 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: If she hadn't, it would have been a completely different thing. 1149 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: She told me that she didn't want to keep contact 1150 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: with him after this and doesn't care about him at all. 1151 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 1: Even told me that she wants to block him on 1152 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 1: the socials that they exchanged, and I said that that 1153 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,320 Speaker 1: was up to her. I didn't know they exchanged socials. 1154 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: That's maybe more closer to the because if I if 1155 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: I saw someone and I want I'll keep from a tan, sup. 1156 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: But if I saw someone that I knew from back 1157 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:43,719 Speaker 1: in the day, I'd be like, oh hey, what's up. 1158 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would exchange what if they 1159 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 2: asked you like, oh, let me grab your Instagram? If 1160 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,240 Speaker 2: they asked me, that's fine. Yeah, but which he probably 1161 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:51,640 Speaker 2: asked her. 1162 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: That's true. Well, fair enough, fair point. So far everything 1163 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: seems to be okay. And I feel like this helped 1164 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: our relationship in terms of setting boundaries and respecting them. 1165 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 2: And I'm glad we were able to talk it out. 1166 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,400 Speaker 1: Well, we want to talk it out with you guys, 1167 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: because I think this is a very good conversation. 1168 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 3: What are your boundaries in your relationship? 1169 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 2: What is what are. 1170 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: Things that are our no go for you, deal breakers, 1171 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:14,800 Speaker 1: et cetera. 1172 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 3: Let us know in the comments. We would definitely love 1173 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 3: to hear from you guys. 1174 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, there's not necessarily a 1175 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 2: universal law of how you should conduct a relationship. One 1176 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 2: of like my friends I was talking about how he's 1177 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,960 Speaker 2: in a non monogamous relationship as long as your relationship 1178 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: contract is this same between both of you and you 1179 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 2: keep to it, that's all that matters exactly. And there's 1180 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 2: differently like like there's different relationships all throughout it. Like 1181 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: some people might be comfortable with you flirting with other 1182 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,919 Speaker 2: people a little bit. Some people that you know don't 1183 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 2: even look in the direction of another woman or man. 1184 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:50,160 Speaker 2: So you know what, what what feels comfortable to op 1185 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily universal. I think, like coming from the story, 1186 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: I feel like there was maybe a little bit of 1187 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,879 Speaker 2: an overreaction on OP side. I think so the only 1188 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 2: thing I think that his girlfriend did wrong was like 1189 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: trivializing his trauma, saying like you should be over it 1190 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 2: by now. That's a little bit of an a hole move. 1191 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 2: But everything else I think it's fine. But good on 1192 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 2: her for hearing where he came from and apologizing for 1193 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 2: how he made her how she made him feel. 1194 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 3: That's that's like always a good thing. 1195 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 1: Everyone makes mistakes. We don't live in each other's heads. 1196 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's not even necessarily a mistake. It's 1197 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,919 Speaker 1: just like this something that someone's uncomfortable with. I think 1198 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: speaking language of like hey, like you did this and 1199 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 1: it made me feel like you can't argue with someone's 1200 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:37,520 Speaker 1: feeling exactly. Oh, PE's girlfriend isn't a jerk, but maybe 1201 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: she made him feel a certain way and he can 1202 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: voice that. 1203 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 2: Can I tell you my smoking story really quick? 1204 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 3: I think that's juicy nuggets. 1205 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 2: So you have a juicy nugget too, Okay, mine's really quick. Okay. 1206 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 2: So I was in Australia. This is why I hate 1207 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 2: smoking so much. I was in Australia. I was staying 1208 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 2: in a hostile One of the girls that was in 1209 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 2: the hostel, super cute Australian, was like, Hey, come out 1210 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,280 Speaker 2: drinking with us. So down, all right, So we pregame 1211 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 2: at the hostel, we get properly drunk before or we 1212 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 2: even go to the bars. There we go, right, I'm 1213 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,680 Speaker 2: with this cute Australian. I'm like with it. I'm excited. 1214 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,360 Speaker 2: I think I'm risen and I'm properly drunk about to 1215 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 2: go to the bar. And she takes out a cigarette 1216 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 2: and she was like, do you want one? And then 1217 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, ten years of programming about not 1218 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 2: smoking a cigarette and my mom's saying, don't smoke a cigarette, 1219 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 2: it's so bad for you has I gone through my head. 1220 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 2: But then this cute Australian's handed me the cigarette. I'm like, 1221 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:20,960 Speaker 2: I might as well. 1222 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 3: Try one, right pereh Sudam. 1223 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 2: She lights it up, I smoke it, hold it in blowout, 1224 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 2: and I'm instantly not drunk. And I was like, that 1225 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: is the most bullsh I paid for these shots. That's 1226 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 2: the most bullshit thing ever. I throw the cigarette on 1227 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 2: the ground and I repeat what my mom always said, 1228 00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: smoking kills. And I totally ruined my relationship with that 1229 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: Australian girl. But at least I didn't real ruin my 1230 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 2: relationship with my lungs. 1231 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 3: You know, that's how we should advertise it. 1232 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: If you don't want to ruin your experience abusing one substance, 1233 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,800 Speaker 1: then don't do this substance. 1234 00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,200 Speaker 2: You know what I mean exactly literally, Like I think 1235 00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 2: smoking is so dumb for the express purpose that it 1236 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 2: makes you less drunk. 1237 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 3: That's so lame. 1238 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,680 Speaker 1: A unique take from Samuel Donna, as always what Johnny boy, Yes, 1239 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 1: I heard you have a little story about lost love 1240 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: and college. Indeed, so similar to oh, not quite similar, 1241 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 1: but like right after high school, I started seeing this girl, 1242 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,600 Speaker 1: like literally in the last like two or three months, 1243 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, let's like stay together, let's 1244 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: do long distance Da da da da. The second I 1245 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: moved out to California, I was like applying to jobs. 1246 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 2: I was like doing all these things. I'm like, all right, 1247 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,919 Speaker 2: I gotta like make money. 1248 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: Da da da. 1249 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 1: And she would literally like stay in her room all 1250 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 1: day and wanted to literally skype like twelve hours a day. 1251 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 3: Like right when I moved out there, I was like crazy. 1252 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, because when we were here, like when we were 1253 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: in the same place, like, oh, we would hang and 1254 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: like do whatever. 1255 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,439 Speaker 2: But it was like very normally, Oh are you free 1256 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 2: like twelve hours a day. Yeah. 1257 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 3: So I knew couples like that. 1258 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,960 Speaker 2: I knew this couple that would would FaceTime eight hours 1259 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: a day. Sorry, they weren't a couple. They were friends. 1260 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,720 Speaker 2: She had a boyfriend. They were FaceTime eight hours a day. 1261 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 2: I actually knew the boyfriend. She broke up with him, 1262 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 2: eventually got with this guy that she was FaceTime at 1263 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 2: eight hours a day. Oh that shit, dude, whack. 1264 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,080 Speaker 1: But our relationship ended in a seven hour skype call 1265 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: through the night where. 1266 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:15,400 Speaker 2: She got what she wanted. 1267 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 3: She that's true, Okay. 1268 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 2: She was basically like, why are you breaking up with me, 1269 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, we spend all day on Skype 1270 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: and I need to like go out here and live 1271 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: my life. And it's just like it's not working, Like 1272 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 2: do you think this is working? And she's like, no, 1273 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: explain why. It's just so. 1274 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 3: H that is my high school. 1275 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: How's she doing now? I have no idea. I hope 1276 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 2: no good riddits. I hope this doesn't make it back 1277 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 2: to her Loki. Yeah, yeah, last time I saw her 1278 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 2: was literally like twenty fifteen. Twenty fifteen. Dang, yeah, damn. 1279 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 2: I wonder she's seen the glow up. I don't know, man, 1280 00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm taking so could have made on 1281 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 2: this baby, Like like. 1282 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 3: I broke up with it. 1283 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm taking some Like damn, I'm just 1284 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 1: double dunking on this poor girl, like for no reason. 1285 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: But you know what, Sam, I really want you to 1286 00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: dunk this next story. 1287 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna freaking Kobe rest in peace. This next 1288 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: story all on you. Let's do it. 1289 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,680 Speaker 1: Riley told me today that he has a list of 1290 00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: three reasons why he won't commit suicide. Reason number one 1291 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: was he didn't want to die before Queen Elizabeth, so 1292 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 1: that's out the window. Reason number two was he can't 1293 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: die until he's been inside of ten. 1294 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 3: What's what would you say you have? Side plus seven? 1295 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'll be the judge of that. 1296 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 3: Pull it up, receipts sets, show me, where's the video? 1297 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 2: I feel like this would be too damaging to way 1298 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 2: too damage inaccurate. Yeah, wait, let's let's let's not. I 1299 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 2: know it's all good. 1300 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,560 Speaker 3: Riley, Riley, No, No, we don't want to. 1301 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,959 Speaker 2: I don't want to see it shot. 1302 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 3: We'll leave it to mystery. 1303 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 2: Although something that I that I think is very, very 1304 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 2: humbling is have you ever been on true rate me 1305 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 2: true what true rate me, true rape me, true rate 1306 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: true rate me, True rate me? No? Okay, So there's 1307 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: this subreddit on Reddit called true rate me, and they 1308 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 2: have a whole fucking table of like how hot are 1309 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 2: you male? Female? And if you look at that, fucking humbled, 1310 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 2: fucking humbled, I believe it, like I'm trying to do that. There. 1311 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 2: Let me show you. Here's the women's guide. There's no 1312 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 2: tens because no one meets the standard. Let's see, it's 1313 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,160 Speaker 2: like top two point five is one out of forty, 1314 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 2: Top seven point five is one out of one sixty 1315 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,680 Speaker 2: eight is one out of seven hundred and fifty eight 1316 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,120 Speaker 2: point five is one out of three thousand, nine is 1317 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: one out of twenty thousand. Nine point five is one 1318 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 2: out of fifty thousand. 1319 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: So they literally limit it to the people like wow, 1320 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, yeah, this is this is fucking crazy. 1321 01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 2: They have a men's one too, This is stud Oh 1322 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 2: are you are you looking you're looking at that. You're 1323 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,960 Speaker 2: looking at the ratings. I see so many people that 1324 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 2: should be swap swapping places. Yeah, I mean obviously it's 1325 01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 2: not fucking yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's beauty is 1326 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 2: in the eyes. 1327 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Of the perfect because it's like, uh, there's this there's 1328 01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,200 Speaker 1: this thing in hip hop journalism where they'll do, like, 1329 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, the top ten album lists or whatever, they 1330 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: intentionally put a shitty album in it so that way 1331 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: everybody argues about. 1332 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh, that's super smart. I think it's like that here, 1333 01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 2: like here, check this out. This is what o'riley's looking at. 1334 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 2: So people will fucking put their pictures on there, and 1335 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 2: then people will fucking mean as fuck. Redditors will say, 1336 01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 2: fucking fucked up shit. 1337 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Those eyes and ears give me a sense of AI 1338 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: generated pictures? What does that even mean AI generated pictures 1339 01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,640 Speaker 1: are hot, dude. All of the people, yes, all of 1340 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the people that are writing these are ugly as fuck, 1341 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 1: yeah guaranteed. 1342 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1343 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 3: Facts. 1344 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Okay, So Riley, based on based on that scale, where 1345 01:01:56,240 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 2: rate yourself? I would a seven? No, Riley, dude, fucking 1346 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Chris Hemsworth is an eight point five. 1347 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Fuck me, it's it's just an intentional thing of like 1348 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: being able to critique people. 1349 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,120 Speaker 2: That's literally what it is. Bryce Hall is a five 1350 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 2: point five. Anthony Mackall is a five, Anthony Michael is No, 1351 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 2: jay Z is a four, and so is that Sharon, 1352 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: and so is DJ Collin honestly, honestly and shared looks 1353 01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 2: fucking crazy. I thought of Ed cheering being horny. That's 1354 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,680 Speaker 2: so funny. Fuck dude, alright, this is shaping up to 1355 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 2: be an OG episode. 1356 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:38,479 Speaker 3: Bro, not good. 1357 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 2: Fucking Christiano Ronaldo is a seven point five. This No, 1358 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 2: that's not it. You know, the guy from her, the 1359 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 2: main guy from her? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a seven 1360 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 2: on this scale. 1361 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 3: Bro, He's a. 1362 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Little bit of a certain flavor. 1363 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,880 Speaker 3: But all right, sorry, I'm done, Riley. You got into 1364 01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,440 Speaker 3: some wa is this MIAs? 1365 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 2: God? 1366 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 3: How am I in put this in the podcast. 1367 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,120 Speaker 2: Put this in the podcast. 1368 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 3: I'm good, okay, yeah in the podcast. 1369 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 2: Put in the podcast. I let my daughter date my 1370 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 2: son's bully and he did not take it. Well, I 1371 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 2: may have just torn my entire family apart. 1372 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 3: Am I see? 1373 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Usually the dad is like gatekeeping who gets to date 1374 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:20,160 Speaker 1: his daughter? 1375 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1376 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,920 Speaker 3: A shot gun with a shotgun. 1377 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 2: I feel like people who bully your son would put 1378 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:25,919 Speaker 2: him just. 1379 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 3: Right at the bottom, way down here. They want your 1380 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,320 Speaker 3: daughter to date a bully. 1381 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. Yeah, I would come and get away from 1382 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: my property. Boy, that's right, get away, yeah right. Riley's 1383 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 2: got those good old southern shotgun confrontations. Have you ever 1384 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 2: been confronted with a shotgun? I had been that. I 1385 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 2: have what I like sick nuts right off? 1386 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,200 Speaker 1: That would make me my pants in fear three or four? 1387 01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 3: What are you doing? 1388 01:03:58,640 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 2: Riley? 1389 01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:04,400 Speaker 3: Just there's just like, hey, well, boyd I have? Is 1390 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 3: it like joking or is it like serious or kind 1391 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 3: of a mix? 1392 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 2: I see it's semi serious. Wow, all right, no thanks. 1393 01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,240 Speaker 2: This all started a couple of years ago and it 1394 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 2: has completely split our family apart. My son, Ze twenty 1395 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 2: two male, has pretty much been a strange from us 1396 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 2: since he was eighteen. Adam is the son of good 1397 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:20,640 Speaker 2: family friends. 1398 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:21,600 Speaker 3: He and my daughter p. 1399 01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: Twenty four female began dating around when they were nineteen. 1400 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 2: The problem is Adam was a bully to my son 1401 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 2: throughout school. As you can imagine, he didn't take it 1402 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,760 Speaker 2: very well. He was furious. However, my daughter refused to 1403 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 2: budge on this. I tried to stay out of the situation, 1404 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,560 Speaker 2: but my wife took my daughter's side, partially as we 1405 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,440 Speaker 2: were good friends with the Adam's parents, but also because 1406 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 2: she thought z would eventually get over it. 1407 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:44,720 Speaker 3: Also, why did they try to do anything? 1408 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 2: If they were good friends with the good family friends, 1409 01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 2: why didn't they try to do anything about the bullying. 1410 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 2: It's stupid to not like, yeah, that's really fucked. Yeah. 1411 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 2: Unfortunately that didn't happen. Instead, it made a stark difference 1412 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 2: in my son's personality. He had become much more aggressive, cold, 1413 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 2: and disrespec He no longer listened to me or what 1414 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 2: his mother had to say, often using intimidation to get 1415 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 2: what he wanted. He would also disappear for days at 1416 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 2: a time without so much a word. This would more 1417 01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,480 Speaker 2: or less carry on until he left for university, after 1418 01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: which He probably spent no more than two weeks in 1419 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 2: total back home, opting to stay with friends or whatever 1420 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,480 Speaker 2: girl he was seeing at the time. He has rejected 1421 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 2: any olive branch we extend. This has completely destroyed our family, 1422 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 2: and it especially hurts my wife as they were quite 1423 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 2: close before this happened. The last time we spoke was 1424 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 2: last year before lockdown. He called me a coward for 1425 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 2: sitting on the fence. I understand why he feels the 1426 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 2: way he does, but was I really wrong to stay 1427 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 2: neutral on this? I didn't feel like it was my 1428 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,600 Speaker 2: place to control my daughter's dating life. And there is 1429 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,920 Speaker 2: an update, But John, I want to know what everyone 1430 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 2: else thinks. Is op the dad being an a hole? 1431 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 2: And why if you think so? Or why do you 1432 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 2: not think so? But John, what do you think? 1433 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 1: I do see the point in where it's like, hey, 1434 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,640 Speaker 1: if I tell you you can't date this guy, that's 1435 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 1: only going to make her want to date him more 1436 01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,360 Speaker 1: like that is the kind of catch. 1437 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 2: Twenty two that you're dealing with in this situation. But again, 1438 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 2: kind of to your point before, like why did the 1439 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,320 Speaker 2: families not like sit him down and talk to him 1440 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 2: and be like you cannot do this? Yeah, I think 1441 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,280 Speaker 2: op is not the a hole for like not controlling 1442 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 2: like like for for not going in and controlling his 1443 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 2: daughter's life. Is the a hole for not doing anything sooner? 1444 01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 2: And it seems I'm way too little, too late, Like 1445 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,560 Speaker 2: they didn't do anything to prevent the bullying. If they 1446 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,200 Speaker 2: were family friends, they should have done more. And I 1447 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 2: bet you the son felt like, not only was he 1448 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 2: not helped during his time when he was being bulling, 1449 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: but now they're not really even they're not They weren't 1450 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,320 Speaker 2: taking his account to his feelings then and they're not 1451 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,320 Speaker 2: taking account of his feelings now. 1452 01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is just like so much worse, Like 1453 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 1: now your bully's gonna be constantly around you and you 1454 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 1: have like basically no choice, Like yeah, home home went 1455 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 1: from like the safe place like. 1456 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 2: To not safe. Your bully has literally infistrated, infiltrated your family, 1457 01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Like how would that this is Depending on how bad 1458 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 2: the bullying is, that would be traumatic one hundred percent. 1459 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 2: I could see not wanting to be part of the family. 1460 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,280 Speaker 2: But I got an update, so the verdict was you're 1461 01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,919 Speaker 2: the asshole. By the comments update, it was quite clear 1462 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 2: that we were in the wrong and we accept that However, 1463 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 2: my son was informed of the original post by one 1464 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 2: of his cousins. He got into contact and he found 1465 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 2: it hilarious. My wife managed to convince him to meet 1466 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,479 Speaker 2: up with us in talk. In regards to his sister 1467 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 2: and Adam, he seemed completely indifferent to them. He said 1468 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,120 Speaker 2: he wasn't particularly interested in talking to two losers. No 1469 01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,680 Speaker 2: one really likes. It was a long conversation. We talked 1470 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 2: about a lot, but it seemed to end with my 1471 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 2: son letting us know that while there might be the 1472 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 2: slightest bit of contact between us, me and my wife 1473 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 2: will always be on the outside looking in on his life. Well, 1474 01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,240 Speaker 2: this isn't what me and my wife hoped for. We 1475 01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 2: were looking at this as a chance to eventually build 1476 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 2: our relationship back up. I'm happy to say he's outgrown 1477 01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 2: his abrasiveness and has become a very confident and intelligent 1478 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 2: young man. He now runs a charity. He happily went 1479 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,880 Speaker 2: into detail about how he works with disadvantaged children and 1480 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 2: helps them get opportunities, particularly in sports. And that's the end. Wow. 1481 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 3: Wait, so did the bully become like the head of 1482 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 3: a charity or like no, this is the sun? 1483 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh? 1484 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, the Op's son, Opie son, Yeah, Opie's 1485 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: son they met up with, right, Yeah, what seemed to end? 1486 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 2: It ended like okay, yeah, I mean I think they 1487 01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 2: are the tool. They don't necessarily deserve anything from him. Yeah, 1488 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 2: but he's giving a little window into his life. So 1489 01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 2: I think that's all you get asked for. I agree, 1490 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 2: But what would you do? Put your answers in the 1491 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 2: comments if you're bully his way into your life to 1492 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 2: your sister, your sister to fu grew up continuously they 1493 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 2: say high school ends in high school, but no high 1494 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,760 Speaker 2: school comes in your sister. So, uh, sorry, comes when 1495 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,920 Speaker 2: you least expected. Ah, but yeah, let us know what 1496 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,040 Speaker 2: you would do in this situation. Kind of crazy, honestly, 1497 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,719 Speaker 2: a little You don't want your high school bullied. 1498 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 3: I want you anywhere. Yeah that would suck. 1499 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,400 Speaker 2: But uh, this is another Bali episode. We miss you, 1500 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 2: we love you. Okay. So we have a Patreon by 1501 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 2: the way, yes, if anyone's still here, and we have 1502 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 2: a bunch of tears. We have like ad free episodes, 1503 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,120 Speaker 2: bonus exclusive episodes, and we're doing this kind of like 1504 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 2: live event kind of thing. We want to eventually do 1505 01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 2: this in person, but we're doing it online first called 1506 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 2: Assholes Anonymous. 1507 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 3: We're gonna read stories with. 1508 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 2: You guys, you react to them and say if you 1509 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 2: think they're the asshole or not, basically what we're doing 1510 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,759 Speaker 2: in the comments here but live. And then we'll pull 1511 01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 2: one of you guys up on the Zoom stage and 1512 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 2: interview you about your life and what's U and one 1513 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 2: of your crazy stories. Yes, we have an episode that 1514 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 2: came out like probably like a week ago or two, 1515 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,880 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, so check it out if 1516 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 2: you want to see what it's like. We'd love to 1517 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 2: see you join the Patreon so click the link in 1518 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 2: the description I. 1519 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Almost got my son unalived. I don't care it happens. 1520 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:30,719 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole? 1521 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,240 Speaker 2: Hey? If you go back like one hundred years child mortality, 1522 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,880 Speaker 2: you die at four, you probably are out of the 1523 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 2: vagiant and you're dying. You just you literally get spit 1524 01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,960 Speaker 2: out of your mom's scooter. You're wrestling with dinosaurs, you know, 1525 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 2: kicking down t rexes or more likely t rexes are 1526 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 2: taking you down. Yeah, and you're just you're barely existing. Wait, Michael, 1527 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,479 Speaker 2: Michael Michael is the child mortality right? 1528 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 3: What's up? 1529 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,120 Speaker 2: One out of every like whatever how. 1530 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:04,200 Speaker 3: Okay, what the fuck? Wait? Wait what. 1531 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 2: The world has made remarkable progress and child survival in 1532 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 2: the past three decades. In twenty twenty one, one out 1533 01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:16,000 Speaker 2: of every twenty six children died before reaching age five, 1534 01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,120 Speaker 2: compared to one out of eleven in nineteen ninety. 1535 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,960 Speaker 3: One out of eleven kids died before the age of five. 1536 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 1: Wow, I mean, I guess if you look at like 1537 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:29,480 Speaker 1: the global that's still that's still crazy though, that's fucking crazy. 1538 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 3: That's according to UNISEF, close. 1539 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:37,479 Speaker 2: To twenty percent one out of eleven, close little lessontember 1540 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 2: ten percent. Yeah, it's very important critical information. Nineteenth century 1541 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,799 Speaker 2: and earlier child mortality rates were often above twenty percent. 1542 01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:53,639 Speaker 2: That's crazy. So that means, who, you're lucky you're alive. Yeah, 1543 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 2: you should. 1544 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 3: You should be grateful you're alive right now. Damn you know. 1545 01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,640 Speaker 2: If you're if your dad you know almost if accidentally 1546 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 2: does it, you're still like way ahead of the pack 1547 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 2: facts compared to be. 1548 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: For your life. Let's jump into the story to go, 1549 01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 3: let's do it. 1550 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:11,160 Speaker 1: I can be an angry driver, so to work on that, 1551 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,800 Speaker 1: I have started giving people thumbs up instead of the 1552 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,479 Speaker 1: middle finger. 1553 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 3: That's interesting strategy. 1554 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 1: It helps me have a better attitude, and I find 1555 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:23,519 Speaker 1: myself being frustrated less when driving when I don't let 1556 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,799 Speaker 1: my anger be my reaction. 1557 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:26,040 Speaker 3: Pretty smart. 1558 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 1: I like that good strategy. Well today that backfired on me, 1559 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: although who knows what would have happened if I had 1560 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,080 Speaker 1: escalated to the middle finger. I was driving behind two 1561 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 1: cars in the fast lane on my way home from 1562 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,680 Speaker 1: grocery shopping with my young son. The slow lane was 1563 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: wide open, and the truck in the front in the 1564 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,640 Speaker 1: fast lane was driving just under the speed limit. So 1565 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,920 Speaker 1: I changed lanes, pass around on the right, giving my 1566 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 1: usual courtesy thumbs up. 1567 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,559 Speaker 3: As I pass the truck. 1568 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,000 Speaker 1: A couple of miles up the road, I get into 1569 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:58,000 Speaker 1: the left turn lane and I'm stopping for the red light. Well, 1570 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,680 Speaker 1: that truck wasn't turning and they had a green light, 1571 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 1: so they were going sixty to sixty five miles per 1572 01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:07,040 Speaker 1: hour as they drove past me. Wow, geez as a truck. 1573 01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,080 Speaker 1: A lot of trucks don't even go like above fifty 1574 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: on the interstate. Yeah, that's insane. I'll let you know 1575 01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 1: that it's trucks me living. They're not right there. 1576 01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 2: Uh. 1577 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 1: They threw a live shotgun shell at my truck as 1578 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: they passed. What the fuck is just a shotgun shell, 1579 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:28,720 Speaker 1: just like gues truckers. 1580 01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 2: Damn. 1581 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,040 Speaker 3: And if they have a shell, then do. 1582 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 2: They got Yeah, they got the gun, the real thing. 1583 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,839 Speaker 1: It hit the flat back of my window of my pickup, 1584 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,920 Speaker 1: right behind my son's head. 1585 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:42,920 Speaker 2: It was so loud my ears were ringing, and my 1586 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 2: son started crying, Oh gosh, uh live shotgun shell. I 1587 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 2: don't know. 1588 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 1: I mean if you throw a shotgun, but there's a 1589 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: shotgun shell, yeah, so there's no like I guess he 1590 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: just like freaking chuck chucked it wall like that. 1591 01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 2: You know how like a gun goes off. He flicked 1592 01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 2: that they like if you hammer a bullet, it could 1593 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 2: go off. 1594 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,679 Speaker 3: Right, Well, this is a shell, right. 1595 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,320 Speaker 2: Shotgun shell like like the But when he says live, 1596 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,519 Speaker 2: that means it's like full a live shotgun shell. Riley, 1597 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 2: I got a resident gun expert, gun expert that it 1598 01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:15,800 Speaker 2: could go off. 1599 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: If he's going sixty miles an hour and he just 1600 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,480 Speaker 1: like chucks it out the window. 1601 01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,160 Speaker 2: It could go off. Yeah, it could kill his son. Damn. 1602 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,559 Speaker 1: Luckily the window didn't break and we're both fine now, 1603 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: but damn, I was fuming when I saw that shell 1604 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:31,720 Speaker 1: and realized that that is what he threw at me. 1605 01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: I reported it to the police, who say they will 1606 01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 1: check the cameras at the intersection. So fingers crossed, there's 1607 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: consequences for them quick at it seems some took the 1608 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,759 Speaker 1: truck to mean semi truck. 1609 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,519 Speaker 3: It was just a heavy duty pickup truck. I was 1610 01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 3: also imagine, yeah, yeah, so funny. 1611 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,080 Speaker 2: And then at a number two, the shotgun shell did 1612 01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 2: not go off. 1613 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,839 Speaker 1: It hit the glass at sixty to sixty five miles 1614 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,640 Speaker 1: per hour and was shockingly loud. It hit sideways, so 1615 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 1: the plastic and the metal ring on the primer side 1616 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 1: hit the glass. 1617 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 2: Both of our kind of questions. That boy, like that 1618 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:12,919 Speaker 2: boils my blood? Who does that? Yeah, that's pretty pretty insane. 1619 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:17,599 Speaker 3: Is there an update? That's it? That's it, that's we got. 1620 01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,679 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, like, how fast 1621 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,680 Speaker 1: does a bullet travel, like, it's probably pretty close to 1622 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: way faster. 1623 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:29,920 Speaker 3: The speed it's weird. Five miles an hour? How how 1624 01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:30,679 Speaker 3: fast is the bullet? 1625 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 2: Riley? Damn. 1626 01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: I missed the days when it was all feelings, no facts. 1627 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 1: Now we have a producer to actually look at miles 1628 01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:36,839 Speaker 1: per hour facts. 1629 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 3: What's your guess. What's your guess? It breaks the sound barrier. 1630 01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:45,479 Speaker 2: It's gotta be like yeah, seven hundred, yeah, what sound 1631 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,880 Speaker 2: six hundred? I mean it depends on what kind of gun. 1632 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:54,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say average. I'm going to say eight hundred 1633 01:14:54,040 --> 01:15:01,639 Speaker 2: miles an hour. No, No, that's funny. Well, seventeen hundred 1634 01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 2: miles an hour. Wow, so a little fast, super close. 1635 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,360 Speaker 1: It's a way closer to that than it is to 1636 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:12,839 Speaker 1: a million miles per hour, but still still any object 1637 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 1: think about like a little rock. If going at sixty 1638 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,559 Speaker 1: miles an hour, that's crazy. 1639 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 2: That's that is fast. That is super funny, super fast. 1640 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 2: What would you do if someone threw a fucking live 1641 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,400 Speaker 2: shotgunshot at you? Would you report them or would you 1642 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:26,920 Speaker 2: just go out? 1643 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,120 Speaker 3: I would definitely, especially if my kid was in there. 1644 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. 1645 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: That's like you, because I'm like, yo, this guy's this 1646 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,519 Speaker 1: guy could do this to other people. 1647 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 2: Click car. So that has anyone ever thrown anything at 1648 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,320 Speaker 2: you while you're driving? Or have you ever thrown anything 1649 01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 2: at someone else? Let us know your road raid stories below, 1650 01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,240 Speaker 2: and let's get into this next one. Let's drive on in. 1651 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,000 Speaker 3: I was hit by a car yesterday. 1652 01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,519 Speaker 2: What are my options. I'm in California, damn. Getting straight 1653 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,439 Speaker 2: to the point, getting straight to it, getting straight to it. 1654 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 2: And you know, there's no two better legally trained lawyers 1655 01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 2: than us. We are both from California, that's right. And 1656 01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 2: we both have cars that you know what as very recently. 1657 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 2: I got a car like six months ago. 1658 01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 3: That's true. 1659 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 1: So we're both legally entitled to give you awful advice 1660 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: here you should not take fucking take it. Let's drive 1661 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: on in, let's do it. 1662 01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,960 Speaker 2: So, as the title states, I eighteen, female was hit 1663 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 2: by a car yesterday walking across the street in San Francisco. 1664 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:23,360 Speaker 3: There was construction going on. 1665 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 2: It's a very confusing intersection that the lady turned right 1666 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,599 Speaker 2: on a red while I was crossing. There was no light, 1667 01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,400 Speaker 2: but a construction worker was holding up a stop sign 1668 01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,120 Speaker 2: and emotion for me to go. She hit me, going 1669 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 2: approximately fifteen miles per hour. I was unconscious for twenty seconds. Geez, 1670 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 2: oh my god. Have you ever been hit by a 1671 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 2: car in a car or outside buy a car like? 1672 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 2: No walking? No, I've been, I know you have. 1673 01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, this literally this close three days after I moved 1674 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: to California. I thought it was for a prom Is 1675 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 1: that not you hit by a car? Now that must 1676 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: be somebody else. Oh yeah, oh shit, I remember I 1677 01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: have a different prom story. But right, we'll get to 1678 01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 1: that someday. 1679 01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 2: You didn't get you didn't get hit. 1680 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: I literally I was crossing the streets three days after 1681 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: I moved to California. 1682 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 2: Car was coming and it was that split second of 1683 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,519 Speaker 2: like do I jump do I stay? I jumped. I 1684 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 2: felt it clipped my shirt. But wow, yeah bad, Now 1685 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,759 Speaker 2: it's bad. That's crazy. 1686 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,120 Speaker 3: The lady thought she hit me. 1687 01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,439 Speaker 2: But dude, you should have. You should have gotten a limb. 1688 01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,360 Speaker 2: Get that check, baby, I was, I was done. I 1689 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,719 Speaker 2: didn't know. Come on, you gotta get that check. Okay. 1690 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,519 Speaker 2: So here's the thing. She didn't get out of her car. 1691 01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,800 Speaker 2: She just rolled down her window. She asked me if 1692 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,240 Speaker 2: I would like her information and even offered me a 1693 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,479 Speaker 2: large amount of money. I said, in a complete days no, 1694 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 2: thank you. She then left. After a couple of minutes, 1695 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 2: I was bleeding from the back of my head and 1696 01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,920 Speaker 2: had some abrasions in my body. The construction guys are 1697 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 2: the ones who rendered aid to me, but I refused 1698 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 2: an ambulance because I don't have any medical insurance and 1699 01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 2: would never be able to afford the three thousand dollars fee. 1700 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh pea, fuck America. 1701 01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 2: D Oh can't believe we don't have universal health insurance. 1702 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,639 Speaker 2: Oh it's rough anyway. I stumbled to the hospital, which 1703 01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 2: was about a mile away. I honestly don't remember much. 1704 01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,000 Speaker 2: The doctors called me foolish because I was seriously injured. 1705 01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 2: They did a CT scan and a full body X ray. 1706 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 2: Besides the multiple body fractures, I also have a severe 1707 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:17,080 Speaker 2: concussion with minor bleeding in the brain. 1708 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 1: Sees I mean getting hit by a car at fifteen 1709 01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 1: miles per hour two thousand pounds. 1710 01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,679 Speaker 2: Come on, dude, are you in for a check? Get 1711 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 2: those security cameras. 1712 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:29,759 Speaker 3: Please please. 1713 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:31,720 Speaker 2: They were going to admit me for at least a 1714 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 2: couple days, but I left after five hours because I 1715 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 2: just can't afford the hospital stay, let alone the CT 1716 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,639 Speaker 2: scan and X rays. 1717 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:39,879 Speaker 3: This was very stupid. 1718 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,360 Speaker 2: I know I am hurting bad this morning about twenty 1719 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,520 Speaker 2: four hours later, and have a bunch of neurological symptoms. 1720 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 2: My case manager at the youth shelter, oh she's out 1721 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 2: a youth shelter I'm staying at, is making me do 1722 01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 2: a police report in person. This morning, he's coming with 1723 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 2: me and is talking about maybe making me return to 1724 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 2: the hospital. Besides all that, I really don't want this 1725 01:18:58,400 --> 01:19:01,040 Speaker 2: woman to get in trouble. I'm just I'm okay, but 1726 01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,479 Speaker 2: I'm injured pretty bad and still working off adrenaline. A 1727 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,479 Speaker 2: few people have told me that she is required to 1728 01:19:06,479 --> 01:19:09,880 Speaker 2: call nine one one and regardless, is that true? What 1729 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,360 Speaker 2: are my options? I feel a little taken advantage of 1730 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 2: because I wasn't thinking straight immediately after the accidents. 1731 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 3: Thank you that lady treated trying to work with the 1732 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 3: girl as like a McDonald's drive. 1733 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 2: So I can't hear that. Oh okay, bye, all right, 1734 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 2: I see yuh wow, that is a really really rough situation. 1735 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 2: There isn't at it. The police report has been filed, okay, 1736 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,480 Speaker 2: is there more? The rest isn't right? 1737 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, this is this is a lot. 1738 01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 2: I think she needs to I mean, she said the 1739 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,679 Speaker 2: police report has been filed, but she needs to see 1740 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,840 Speaker 2: if there's security cameras. So actually a couple like a 1741 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:54,120 Speaker 2: week ago, my mom was attacked by a pitpole in 1742 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,280 Speaker 2: our street and then filed her police report. The police came, 1743 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 2: of course, the person who's done attacked my mom said, 1744 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 2: my dog attacked that that dog. First, my dog's a 1745 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,759 Speaker 2: tiny little dog. It's for a giant piple. My mom 1746 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 2: saw that there was a ring camera of where she 1747 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 2: got so she got attacked, pulled the footage. Now that 1748 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 2: there's footage of my mom getting attacked by this pitple 1749 01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 2: that she's going to use for the police report and 1750 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,320 Speaker 2: in court. So there's cameras everywhere. We live in a society. 1751 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,599 Speaker 1: We do live in a society where we are always 1752 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 1: under surveillance, where Tesla rocams catch people pooping in the 1753 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:32,759 Speaker 1: streets exactly. 1754 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 2: We wrote a story about that. So like, basically, if 1755 01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,880 Speaker 2: any crime happens, the chances of especially in public, the 1756 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,759 Speaker 2: chances of there being camera footage of it is very high. 1757 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 2: So looks for that because I mean that can really 1758 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 2: help you. 1759 01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would definitely seek Like also, anyone who has 1760 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,360 Speaker 1: experienced something similar and you know, learned from that. 1761 01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 3: You ever gotten hit by a car or any kind 1762 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 3: of vehicle. 1763 01:20:56,760 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 2: Please please let us know, because I mean, it happens 1764 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 2: all the time, and I think we know the general 1765 01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:06,320 Speaker 2: stuff where it's like okay, get their information, uh, you know, 1766 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 2: talk to a lawyer, But like, what does that actually 1767 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 2: look like? 1768 01:21:09,280 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 3: I don't know. I've never been car. 1769 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, I've bumped some guy in a tailgate and 1770 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: he was like, just give me like two hundred bucks. 1771 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Sound was like fine, Yeah, that's the extent of my experience. 1772 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 2: With Let us know, let us know what you what 1773 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 2: your experience is, because I don't we want to protect 1774 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,000 Speaker 2: the okop family. We really do kind of answers to 1775 01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 2: the comments what happens if you get in a car accident. 1776 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 2: Let us know, also, try not to get hit by car. 1777 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:37,000 Speaker 2: Please don't get don't go looking to get hit by 1778 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,959 Speaker 2: a car. Yeah, that's also our advice. There you go. Goodvice. 1779 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 2: Good advice too. That's right, But let's jump into the 1780 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:42,880 Speaker 2: next one. 1781 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:43,759 Speaker 3: It's for the gas. 1782 01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,000 Speaker 2: Someone hit me with a car and now wants to 1783 01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,800 Speaker 2: sue me. I'm going to fight back. But am I 1784 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:49,439 Speaker 2: the a hole? 1785 01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:51,839 Speaker 3: You are the a hole for fighting? 1786 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,640 Speaker 2: Wow? Jesus said, turn the other cheek, that's right. Confucius 1787 01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,759 Speaker 2: said run let them run. 1788 01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,000 Speaker 3: Over you with your car. 1789 01:21:59,120 --> 01:21:59,479 Speaker 2: That's right. 1790 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: They run for one cheek, turn the other cheeks so 1791 01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 1: they can run over the other. 1792 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think it was a lot of roads 1793 01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:07,680 Speaker 2: that said please run a train through me. 1794 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,200 Speaker 3: Be a doormat. That is the lesson of the day. 1795 01:22:13,760 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 1: So basically, on Monday, I was in a crash at 1796 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,439 Speaker 1: a really busy intersection. A crash happens multiple times a 1797 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,439 Speaker 1: day there, so I'm fairly careful around that area due 1798 01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 1: to all of the crashes. I was sitting at a 1799 01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,600 Speaker 1: red light for around a minute before going when the 1800 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: light turned greened. However, as soon as I made it 1801 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,200 Speaker 1: about halfway through the intersection, my vision went white and 1802 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:39,639 Speaker 1: the world started spinning. 1803 01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 3: Fuck geez all, my airbags had gone off. 1804 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:45,920 Speaker 1: My oil just started to spill all the way down 1805 01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,240 Speaker 1: the street, and my console was smoking. 1806 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:49,400 Speaker 2: Wow. 1807 01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 3: WHOA. 1808 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 1: So I missed the part of the crash where the 1809 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,799 Speaker 1: other party tried to hop on the interstate and cross 1810 01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 1: state borders, but a man a couple of cars behind 1811 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,360 Speaker 1: me took off after them and brought them back. So 1812 01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 1: basically it looks like OP was in like a really bad. 1813 01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 2: Collision and the person that got into the crash fled 1814 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,280 Speaker 2: the scene, but some like good. 1815 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: Straight Air and his good Samaritan vigilante just like chasing 1816 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 1: down man in the bay. When the cops finally showed 1817 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: up after around forty five minutes, the other party decided 1818 01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,200 Speaker 1: to lie and say that I ran the red light. 1819 01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,840 Speaker 2: Dude, It's always fucking like that. 1820 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: Always, always. He tried to reverse Unomi with the blame. 1821 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 2: Dude, that's what I got into a crash before, like 1822 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,680 Speaker 2: a lift driver crashed into my car. I recorded him 1823 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,679 Speaker 2: admitting fault, and then he reversed the uh the story 1824 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,439 Speaker 2: when the police came. But luckily we had the recording 1825 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,559 Speaker 2: or we would have been like suit, damn, you've solid 1826 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,680 Speaker 2: quick with it. Yeah, I'm a content creator who. 1827 01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,439 Speaker 1: He also showed a gift card instead of an ID, 1828 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:02,040 Speaker 1: like as a bride ippo, would you like seven and 1829 01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: a half dollars on a cold Stone agreement regard and 1830 01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: expires in three days? So you sit fast like what 1831 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:14,000 Speaker 1: the fuck? And I'm still so bewildered by that bride prahps. 1832 01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,040 Speaker 1: Oh so maybe it wasn't bro Maybe maybe. Thankfully, the 1833 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 1: man in the car directly behind me also had a 1834 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,599 Speaker 1: dash cam and basically forced the footage on the cop 1835 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,040 Speaker 1: with how adamant he was about giving man op is 1836 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: really surrounded by some good Samaritans, I know, God, lucky 1837 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 1: for real. Again, after calling insurance, I've now found out 1838 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,920 Speaker 1: that they are holding onto the lie that they didn't 1839 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: turn a red despite the footage proving that they did. 1840 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:47,639 Speaker 1: And the six witnesses including a prison officer. I don't 1841 01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 1: know if that's police officer, prison officer, but we're rolling 1842 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: with it that we're all saying that he was the 1843 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 1: one at faul. 1844 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 2: I think his prison officer probably like just like a 1845 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 2: random bystander that happens to be an offic sir at 1846 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:00,759 Speaker 2: a prison. 1847 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:02,200 Speaker 3: That could be the case. 1848 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Maybe where this guy is going, you know, can he 1849 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,519 Speaker 1: get me in trouble with these lies? 1850 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:08,760 Speaker 3: I'm scared that the. 1851 01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 2: Dash camp yeah no, and six witnesses including a prison officer. 1852 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I love how hope he is like, and 1853 01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:18,759 Speaker 2: it was a prison officer. 1854 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,000 Speaker 1: It's it's the car crash, the jail pipeline, yeah, super strong. 1855 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm scared that one morning I'll wake up and find 1856 01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: out that they decided that he was right and all 1857 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,200 Speaker 1: have to pay for his entirely fed up suv. He 1858 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 1: popped the wheel, The hood was so dented you could 1859 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,360 Speaker 1: see underneath the engine that was in pieces. And I 1860 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,959 Speaker 1: really just don't want to pay for his bad decision. 1861 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 1: Is it possible that I'd have to editing to make 1862 01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,519 Speaker 1: a quick note here. But I did initially start this 1863 01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,360 Speaker 1: whole thing by filing acclaim with my own insurance at 1864 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 1: the incident site. My insurance told me that I shouldn't 1865 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,400 Speaker 1: have done that because it makes me look like the 1866 01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,720 Speaker 1: guilty one, and that I had to do it through 1867 01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,880 Speaker 1: the other person's insurance. 1868 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,680 Speaker 2: Right, Usually you fire when you are when you are 1869 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,320 Speaker 2: not at fault, you fire you you file through the 1870 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 2: other person's insurance. But like you know, if you have 1871 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,760 Speaker 2: the dash cam footage and the witnesses, it should be fine. Yeah, 1872 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,800 Speaker 2: I guess, Yeah, I guess, maybe an increase. I didn't 1873 01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:16,960 Speaker 2: know that. 1874 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:18,600 Speaker 3: Actually, that's a good tip for me. 1875 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of car stories today, guys, again, 1876 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: any any stories of I think, really how to deal 1877 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,559 Speaker 1: with these types of situations where somebody hits you there 1878 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 1: at fault but then they try to weasel out of it. 1879 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it happens all the time, all the time. But yeah, 1880 01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,720 Speaker 2: tell us your car crash stories. Put it in the 1881 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,720 Speaker 2: comments below. We'd love to hear what you remember of it. 1882 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,679 Speaker 2: That's right. My psycle parents are in a religious cults. 1883 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,360 Speaker 2: I just found sacrifices in the attic. 1884 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,960 Speaker 3: Should I call the cops? Well, you know, it's for 1885 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:53,559 Speaker 3: religious reasons, you know, you know what. 1886 01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,120 Speaker 2: The sacrifices in the attic are their dreams when they 1887 01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,479 Speaker 2: had you. Wow, sorry, Op, you literally were an accident 1888 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,240 Speaker 2: and you fresh their dreams. So my parents are very 1889 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 2: secretive people. I always assumed that's just how parents were 1890 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,679 Speaker 2: along with this. They were legit obsessed with the attic. 1891 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:13,559 Speaker 2: What's creeping and crawling in the attic? Going balls and gags? Baby, 1892 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 2: that's oh god, mommy and Daddy's playplace. That's right, keep 1893 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 2: it upstairs, sex swings and fucking leather, nice and hot. 1894 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 2: When we moved into this house, four floors, one attic, 1895 01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 2: I wanted to have more room in there, as it 1896 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 2: had the most space and I could put all my 1897 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,519 Speaker 2: workout equipment there, But they demanded that I stay on 1898 01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,479 Speaker 2: the second floor, which eventually turned into a screaming match 1899 01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 2: between me, my mom, and my stepdad. Is that not 1900 01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,080 Speaker 2: the most spoiled child? Shit? 1901 01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 3: Ever? 1902 01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:39,479 Speaker 2: I want the. 1903 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 4: Addict because has more square feet for my palets. 1904 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 3: On, mom, Mama, I want the penthouse. 1905 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,879 Speaker 2: I would not do with the second floor what you'd 1906 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 2: take me for some. 1907 01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 3: Kind of plebeian. The shit is ridiculous. The second floor 1908 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,320 Speaker 3: is basically the guts of Mama. 1909 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,040 Speaker 2: I cannot live in the sewers. I didn't want to 1910 01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:00,880 Speaker 2: smell the sewers. I didn't want to smell the poor people. 1911 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,160 Speaker 2: The loss come up from the ground, the attic free 1912 01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,320 Speaker 2: from the pool smells. 1913 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:07,760 Speaker 3: I must have my own space, Mama. 1914 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,440 Speaker 2: I caved and moved into the second floor, and to apologize, 1915 01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,480 Speaker 2: they let me stay at my cousin's house in Massachusetts 1916 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 2: for the next two weeks. As they moved more and 1917 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:19,479 Speaker 2: more stuff in, they had to apologize for giving you 1918 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 2: a whole fucking floor. Bro, oh pee, and you didn't 1919 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,880 Speaker 2: help move stuff in. You're kind of coming off as 1920 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 2: a hole a right dude, Like, oh, my god, your 1921 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,479 Speaker 2: parents might be murderers, but you murder fun and being chilled. 1922 01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 2: My god. Wow. When I came back, the attic door 1923 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 2: was locked, Like I'm talking paranoid grandpa in apartment locked locked. 1924 01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:42,559 Speaker 3: I never minded it, after all. 1925 01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 2: It was an attic, and when I asked my mom 1926 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,799 Speaker 2: about it, she'd simply say they used it for storage. 1927 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 2: Odd but both my grandma and dad had died a 1928 01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 2: few years before and left behind a lot of stuff, 1929 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 2: so I believed her. I caught glimpses of the inside 1930 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: over the following weeks. It was oddly underdeveloped compared to 1931 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,920 Speaker 2: the second, third, and first floors, and there was a 1932 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:03,840 Speaker 2: toilet in the back of it so I could see 1933 01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,759 Speaker 2: through the darkness. Also, an attic is meant to be undeveloped. Yeah, 1934 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 2: it's a different between the four floors. An attic has 1935 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:11,640 Speaker 2: meant for storage. 1936 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,000 Speaker 1: I saw the first attic as a room in my 1937 01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 1: life like a month ago. 1938 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:16,200 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. 1939 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:17,000 Speaker 3: What is going on here? 1940 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, Opie is an attic addict. 1941 01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:21,680 Speaker 3: That's true. I can't stop thinking about it. 1942 01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:25,360 Speaker 2: An addict, asshole, an attic addict, asshole. Say that's five 1943 01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 2: times fast No, fast forward. Today I wake up and 1944 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:30,479 Speaker 2: have to take a shit. I made the mistake of 1945 01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:35,599 Speaker 2: eating three cheese sandwiches yesterday. Whoops, fucking spoiled brat. So 1946 01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 2: I check on the second floor. Stepdad is in the 1947 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,040 Speaker 2: bathroom downstairs, sisters in the bathroom. I know that the 1948 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,080 Speaker 2: basement is empty and full of spiders, so I refuse 1949 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,720 Speaker 2: to go down there. And the third floor doesn't have 1950 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 2: a bathroom. I also overheard my mom talking about going 1951 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:54,679 Speaker 2: upstairs to do something, oh like masturbait so I decided 1952 01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,759 Speaker 2: to cut my losses and release the horde in the attic. 1953 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,599 Speaker 3: The place looks pretty normal at glance. 1954 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:02,800 Speaker 2: There's a weird amount of paper on the floor that's 1955 01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,120 Speaker 2: peeling off, and the windows are blocked, but that's it. 1956 01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,639 Speaker 2: I go to the bathroom, use the bathroom, and leave. 1957 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 2: But I noticed that there's almost nothing up there, despite 1958 01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 2: my mom's claims of it being a storage room, so 1959 01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 2: I just look around for shits and giggles. I opened 1960 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 2: a door which I wouldn't be able to see from 1961 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,559 Speaker 2: the attic stairs, as it is to the left of 1962 01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,320 Speaker 2: the door that lets you into the attic, and I 1963 01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 2: find a shrine. It has pictures of my dead dad, Grandma, 1964 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 2: and me on it. It's nothing hereditary level, but it's 1965 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 2: certainly off putting considered. The thing is surrounded by dolls, 1966 01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,360 Speaker 2: and there's also a couple of cardboard boxes around the 1967 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 2: place with literal birds inside. I want to say I'm kidding, 1968 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 2: but these are actual fucking birds in them. I know 1969 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 2: this because on a run through the Bronx, we went 1970 01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 2: to the whole market thing or whatever, and they packed 1971 01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:53,040 Speaker 2: birds into these boxes with holes in them. 1972 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,040 Speaker 3: I imagine alive. 1973 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,599 Speaker 2: They were alive. I think they may be dead. 1974 01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:01,160 Speaker 3: What the fuck is going on? This is in proof. 1975 01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,640 Speaker 2: Of a cult, I understand, but this, coupled with some 1976 01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,160 Speaker 2: recent changes, has really led me to believe that my 1977 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,559 Speaker 2: parents are going through some weird stuff. Ever since my 1978 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 2: grandma and dad died, my mom has gotten really deep 1979 01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 2: into faith and has become friends with this priestess based 1980 01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,679 Speaker 2: in Cuba. I don't know her name, I have met 1981 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:21,400 Speaker 2: her and she does live streams on Facebook. Again, something 1982 01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,840 Speaker 2: relatively normal, until I saw that her photo is on 1983 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 2: the fucking shrine as well. It's hard to see, but 1984 01:31:27,400 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 2: it's behind the candle. My parents have also been talking 1985 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:32,559 Speaker 2: to me about my sixteenth birthday and have told me 1986 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:36,240 Speaker 2: they are going to mark my head, followed by a laugh, 1987 01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,639 Speaker 2: which I assumed was always some kind of weird joke. 1988 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm genuinely concerned and confused and don't know how to 1989 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:44,719 Speaker 2: bring this up to them. And there is an update. 1990 01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Mark my head sounds like they're putting a hit on her. 1991 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 1: I know, it sounds like. 1992 01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:52,720 Speaker 2: They're going to do Captato Peeveditasophia. Like, dude, I don't 1993 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:53,160 Speaker 2: fucking know. 1994 01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 3: This is really weird. 1995 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,680 Speaker 2: Also, like this sounds crazy, but there have been and 1996 01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 2: continue to be religious cults all over the US that 1997 01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:03,880 Speaker 2: are into some pretty fucked up shit. 1998 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 1: Here's a question, what's the percentage of like wealthy people 1999 01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,120 Speaker 1: in these cults? Because they sound like a four story house? Like, Yo, 2000 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:11,320 Speaker 1: have you heard of scientology? 2001 01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:11,599 Speaker 3: Bitch? 2002 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Have you heard of scientology? 2003 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 3: You you got you got to be good? 2004 01:32:15,320 --> 01:32:17,879 Speaker 2: Have you heard of mister Tom Cruz? 2005 01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:18,880 Speaker 3: Never heard of him? 2006 01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:22,559 Speaker 2: Who's that? Dude? Scientologists most famous for being a scientology? 2007 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,480 Speaker 1: But like what about like, uh, like even more eccentric cults. 2008 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,599 Speaker 3: Than that, you know what I mean. 2009 01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 2: Like believing in fucking volcano dwelling aliens. That's not as 2010 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,240 Speaker 2: taking cyanide blazed kool aid because someone tells you to. 2011 01:32:38,439 --> 01:32:40,360 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you had you had rich people that 2012 01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 2: like you had like kind of like drop out rich 2013 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 2: people that joined some of these cults, like they came 2014 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 2: from a rich family and they're like I'm yeah, I 2015 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,320 Speaker 2: hate you, right, and then they go join one of 2016 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 2: those sex cults in the forest. That's true. 2017 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 3: Maybe it's like the the inherited, they're the inherited wealth. 2018 01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:57,519 Speaker 1: No, there's babies, yeah, trust babies, the trust one babies 2019 01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,160 Speaker 1: are like I have literally no idea what to do 2020 01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:01,599 Speaker 1: with my life, and I I like experienced everything rich 2021 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:02,040 Speaker 1: in the world. 2022 01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,880 Speaker 3: Let me do the craziest thing possible, and. 2023 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of into it. It'd be fun 2024 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:08,519 Speaker 2: for a little biting. Let us know if you've joined 2025 01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 2: a sex cult or any kind of cult. Put your 2026 01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:12,960 Speaker 2: answers in the comments, you little CULTI bastards. I guess 2027 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,160 Speaker 2: the Okop fam is kind of a cult and you're 2028 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:16,480 Speaker 2: on the ground floor, baby. 2029 01:33:16,280 --> 01:33:17,400 Speaker 3: And we are your leaders. 2030 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,200 Speaker 2: Boss. So reasoned out that my parents probably weren't going 2031 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,799 Speaker 2: to sacrifice me to some demonic pagan god or whatever. 2032 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:26,720 Speaker 2: So just in case, I told a friend that I 2033 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,280 Speaker 2: was going to be online on cod within the next 2034 01:33:29,320 --> 01:33:32,000 Speaker 2: two hours, and that if I wasn't online at that point, 2035 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 2: he should probably come over to my house as my 2036 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 2: signal might have fucked up. Dumb lie, I know. And 2037 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,360 Speaker 2: in the meantime, I just went downstairs and asked my 2038 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 2: mom what the deal was with the shrine upstairs? Mama? 2039 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 2: Why I got all these weird pictures and candles? What 2040 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:45,840 Speaker 2: are you doing? 2041 01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:47,240 Speaker 3: What's up with the birds? Went up? 2042 01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,000 Speaker 2: Dumb buds? Ten out of ten beds. Sorry, we got 2043 01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,200 Speaker 2: in trouble for saying that. Out of ten beds. Uh, oh, 2044 01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,439 Speaker 2: no longer, no longer. That joke's just for Riley. 2045 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:55,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know it though. 2046 01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 2: My mom is a bit stubborn, so she acted confused 2047 01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,960 Speaker 2: for a moment, but when I pushed further, she cracked 2048 01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,080 Speaker 2: and started talking. When I asked questions, she told me 2049 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,880 Speaker 2: that we are Catholic, and, like many commentars on the 2050 01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 2: post said, as it turns out, they practice an Afro 2051 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 2: Cuban religion called Santeria, which is essentially a mix of 2052 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 2: Catholicism and a lot of African beliefs. The altar with 2053 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:22,559 Speaker 2: all the photos is called a boveda and acts as 2054 01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,880 Speaker 2: a tunnel between Earth and Heaven. You know what I 2055 01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:27,040 Speaker 2: should have called it, but that is what I thought 2056 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 2: it was. 2057 01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:28,519 Speaker 3: You know about this? 2058 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not know a lot about it, but 2059 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:32,519 Speaker 1: I know that some uh you know, that was like 2060 01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 1: all these different interpretations like Christianity and whatnot. There's some 2061 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 1: that kind of mix like voodoo or other things like 2062 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,720 Speaker 1: that with Christianity. Yeah, I don't know about it, but 2063 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:42,960 Speaker 1: I've heard of it before. 2064 01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,200 Speaker 2: Damn should have Damn, I should have called it now 2065 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,439 Speaker 2: now it just was like the end of the movie. Fuck. 2066 01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,759 Speaker 2: She put the photos of me there because she thinks 2067 01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:54,200 Speaker 2: it will let the spirit of my dad and of 2068 01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 2: my grandma protect me. A little weird, but all right. 2069 01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,200 Speaker 2: At least it was done with good intentions, I guess. 2070 01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 2: Eventually I bring up the elephant or bird in the 2071 01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,680 Speaker 2: room and ask about the severed deer. There was a 2072 01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:08,640 Speaker 2: severed deer what goat slash lamb and she said it 2073 01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:12,479 Speaker 2: was a thing for Arisha called achosi that has to 2074 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 2: do with hunting, I think. Then we talked more about 2075 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,320 Speaker 2: the stuff around. Thankfully, the rock was not covered in blood, 2076 01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,840 Speaker 2: just some kind of weird alcohol, and then we got 2077 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:21,840 Speaker 2: to the bird thing. It was the first time in 2078 01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,080 Speaker 2: forever that I was genuinely scared of my mom. She 2079 01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:28,280 Speaker 2: just casually explained that she would murder and has been 2080 01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 2: murdering animals for years. I think she caught on to 2081 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,080 Speaker 2: what I was getting at and promised that it was 2082 01:35:33,120 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 2: only farm animals and that she did it humanly by 2083 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,960 Speaker 2: decapitating them or cutting some arteries so they bleed out quickly. 2084 01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:40,559 Speaker 3: Yikes. 2085 01:35:40,640 --> 01:35:43,200 Speaker 2: But again I wanted to have an open mind, so 2086 01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,719 Speaker 2: I cringed in my mind and asked more questions. Most 2087 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 2: went nowhere, but the one that really fucked me up 2088 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:51,360 Speaker 2: was when I asked how long they've been doing this? 2089 01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,680 Speaker 2: Thirty years? Wow, thirty fucking years. They've been into this 2090 01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:58,840 Speaker 2: and they never told me about it. My cousins know, 2091 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,200 Speaker 2: my aunt's and uncle, my grandma knew, my dad knew. 2092 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,519 Speaker 2: Virtually everyone in my extended family knew except for me. 2093 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 2: And you know what the worst part is, my mom 2094 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,680 Speaker 2: and dad weren't introduced to it or sucked in by 2095 01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:14,280 Speaker 2: someone else. They were the people introducing it to others. 2096 01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:19,120 Speaker 2: They're the cult leaders. Oh. My dad was something called 2097 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:22,400 Speaker 2: a centero or centera or whatever that acts like a 2098 01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 2: priest or fortune teller. He came over to the United 2099 01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,000 Speaker 2: States and met my mom and was the one to 2100 01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,679 Speaker 2: get her into Santaia, and then introduced it to my grandma, 2101 01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 2: who immigrated not too long afterwards, and they. 2102 01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,360 Speaker 3: Practice it together. 2103 01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this wild. So I patched things up 2104 01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 2: with my mom and stepdad, learned about the situation with 2105 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,840 Speaker 2: the stuff in the attic, and it, for the most 2106 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,000 Speaker 2: part ended well. I'm not going to report them to anyone, 2107 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:47,440 Speaker 2: but I am also not joining the Church of Santoria. 2108 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,360 Speaker 1: Wow, We've never had a situation like this, I think, 2109 01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 1: No A thousand stories. 2110 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 2: Talk about fucking skeletons in the closet. Oh, literally, fucking 2111 01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 2: skeletons in the attics. 2112 01:36:58,040 --> 01:36:59,920 Speaker 3: Murdered birds, murdered birds. 2113 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 2: But two in the attic is worth one in that hand. 2114 01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,320 Speaker 2: I have no idea A bird in hand is worth 2115 01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:05,720 Speaker 2: two in the bush. You've never heard that? 2116 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 3: Have you ever heard that before in your life? 2117 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,280 Speaker 2: You've never heard a bird in hand is worth two 2118 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,720 Speaker 2: in the bush. Never? Is that whole life? Campbell? Have 2119 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,639 Speaker 2: you heard that a bird in the hand is worth 2120 01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 2: two in the bush? 2121 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:14,799 Speaker 3: Nathan? 2122 01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 2: Have you heard a bird in the hand is worth 2123 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 2: two in the bush? What? Wow? What the fuck? Nathan says? 2124 01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:26,160 Speaker 2: Who never? Okay, ever in my life? Please comment below 2125 01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:28,640 Speaker 2: if you've heard of that phrase, a bird in the 2126 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:29,880 Speaker 2: hand is worth two in the bush? What does that 2127 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,439 Speaker 2: even mean? All right, say there's two birds over there. 2128 01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,479 Speaker 2: I'm about to eat some birds. Yeah, oh, there's two 2129 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,320 Speaker 2: birds in the in the bush. Well, but I got 2130 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 2: one bird right here, Like that's worth more than the 2131 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,040 Speaker 2: two in the bush, because like you might not even 2132 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,679 Speaker 2: catch those birds in the bush, or I get double dinner. Yeah, 2133 01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 2: but you might not. 2134 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:44,720 Speaker 1: Even get it. A bird in the hand is worth 2135 01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,320 Speaker 1: two in the bus. I could murder them and put 2136 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,040 Speaker 1: them on my shrine. 2137 01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:47,760 Speaker 2: Oh that's true. 2138 01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:48,599 Speaker 3: Now I got a whole shot. 2139 01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,719 Speaker 2: One bird is then you can talk to grandpa. That's 2140 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:51,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 2141 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:52,360 Speaker 3: Here's another one. 2142 01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,639 Speaker 2: You know, one is lonely, but two is a party. 2143 01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,759 Speaker 2: You know, that's true. One bird is just a dead bird. 2144 01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,360 Speaker 2: Two dead birds. That's a shrine. Baby, Two dead birds. 2145 01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:01,680 Speaker 2: That's company. Because you got your grandma coming over and 2146 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 2: be like, oh, damn is that bird ten buds? It's 2147 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:10,759 Speaker 2: getting lit, dude, Grandpa calls whatever the buds are. That's right. 2148 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,680 Speaker 2: We're talking about real birds, by the way, not the 2149 01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:13,840 Speaker 2: English euphanism. Yea. 2150 01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,080 Speaker 3: Anyway, what the fuck is this story? That is a 2151 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:16,679 Speaker 3: great question. 2152 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 2: How did they hide this from their child? 2153 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:22,640 Speaker 1: Like because most parents, they like introduce them to the 2154 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:23,840 Speaker 1: religion that they follow. 2155 01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:25,960 Speaker 2: Well, I guess maybe this is the introduction. I guess, 2156 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,880 Speaker 2: But like, have OP a couple of years. OP is 2157 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:31,440 Speaker 2: gonna be like, damn, these birds looking pretty sixies. 2158 01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: That's like usually it's like you inundate them, like from 2159 01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, day one. 2160 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, how at year. 2161 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,640 Speaker 1: Sixteen are you going to get them? You have like 2162 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 1: two years? Realistically, that's actually true. Yeah, you gotta start early, 2163 01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,160 Speaker 1: and something is is like they have to have some 2164 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,360 Speaker 1: sort of sense that this is like different. 2165 01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was to indoctrinate my kids into a 2166 01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 2: religious cult, I would start early. 2167 01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:52,120 Speaker 3: There we go, So start earlier. 2168 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but John, you know what else we should start with? 2169 01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:57,600 Speaker 2: What this next story? A pimpass a head out on 2170 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,720 Speaker 2: me and my family? Should I run away a hole? No, 2171 01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,760 Speaker 2: it's just joined the business flex those freaking cheeks put 2172 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,759 Speaker 2: that become an asset to that pimp. 2173 01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and someone who's bringing. 2174 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 1: Him money exactly, that asshold no work. Also, I love 2175 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,599 Speaker 1: that it's like, am I an asshole for running away 2176 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,400 Speaker 1: from someone who says a hit out on me? 2177 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,720 Speaker 2: Right away from a business proposition? Exactly? Have a face 2178 01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,920 Speaker 2: to face conversation, work it out, figure out striking deal. 2179 01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:28,920 Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I have a few laughs, stick around, 2180 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,720 Speaker 2: be considerate. It's only your life on the line, that's it. 2181 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:37,000 Speaker 2: Oh Man, So a few weeks ago, I regretfully, extremely 2182 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:40,920 Speaker 2: regret even thinking about hooking up with an escort. Hmmmm, 2183 01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 2: where is she escorting you to? Escorting you to a 2184 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:50,280 Speaker 2: happy ending pound Town, USA? God? Actually Poundtown, Indonesia, because 2185 01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:52,759 Speaker 2: we're still in Bali we're still balling in Bali. 2186 01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I contacted an escort that I found on a 2187 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,760 Speaker 1: website through a text on my phone. Stupid of me 2188 01:39:59,080 --> 01:40:01,559 Speaker 1: not to use a Wait, you got a text on 2189 01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,920 Speaker 1: your phone that said escorts in your area and then 2190 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:05,160 Speaker 1: you decided to respond. 2191 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,400 Speaker 2: Dude, you're so dumb. What the fuck are such? You 2192 01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,519 Speaker 2: know they say hot single mills in your area? You 2193 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,839 Speaker 2: don't fucking click that ad. 2194 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:14,880 Speaker 3: You never do it. 2195 01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,679 Speaker 2: You exit out and they go back to whatever illsted 2196 01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:18,920 Speaker 2: activity you were fucking doing. 2197 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,639 Speaker 1: The very stinky bastard exactly do it legal things right. 2198 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,960 Speaker 1: She sent me a picture of her and her price, 2199 01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:27,160 Speaker 1: which was too much, so I didn't respond. 2200 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 2: Fucking broke ass bitch, get your money. Halloween escort these days, right, 2201 01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,639 Speaker 2: look it up. We're about to find out to see 2202 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,240 Speaker 2: that the average how much? Well, I guess it's probably 2203 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:41,519 Speaker 2: cheaper in Bali. Yeah, what if you're like a last Wow, dude, 2204 01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,519 Speaker 2: that's like thirty bucks. 2205 01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:46,280 Speaker 3: I don't work that night. Sam's just like I'm canceling 2206 01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:47,160 Speaker 3: all my plans. 2207 01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm getting thirty hookers. Wow, to come to 2208 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:54,240 Speaker 2: one hundred new hearts. One hundred new hookers? Wow? How 2209 01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 2: do you hire those. 2210 01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:57,360 Speaker 1: Honestly, what if you just like throw like a big 2211 01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,160 Speaker 1: party and just see it had food and just like 2212 01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:00,080 Speaker 1: hung out and just. 2213 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,080 Speaker 2: And then fucked all of them. Oh boy, now I'm 2214 01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,960 Speaker 2: not gonna have sex with the hooker once twice. Yes, 2215 01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,760 Speaker 2: I have never had sex with a hooker. Neither I 2216 01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 2: unless you count my ex girlfriend. Oh god, damn kidding. 2217 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:15,000 Speaker 3: We were going dark. 2218 01:41:16,360 --> 01:41:20,040 Speaker 2: Heh boy, none of my ex girlfriends were hose except 2219 01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 2: like one. 2220 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:21,360 Speaker 3: I'm going to leave it at that. 2221 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,000 Speaker 1: After an hour, she was still texting me, and I 2222 01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:26,080 Speaker 1: said the price was too high. I told her that 2223 01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,240 Speaker 1: I only had one hundred and twenty dollars to spend, 2224 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 1: and she strangely accepted. Her initial offer was three hundred 2225 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:32,599 Speaker 1: and fifty per hour. 2226 01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so she's a hotty. She charged hot girl prices. 2227 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,400 Speaker 2: What if she was like, Babe, here's the thing. I 2228 01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:40,960 Speaker 2: only need five seconds, So what's the price for that. Yeah, 2229 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 2: that's true. 2230 01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:44,000 Speaker 1: Let's skip this whole hour business. Yeah, let's go price 2231 01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:47,120 Speaker 1: per second, babe, Price per second, two dollars. We'll do 2232 01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:50,640 Speaker 1: like a three hundred dollars per hour average. I'll just 2233 01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,160 Speaker 1: use five seconds of that hour. We'll pro ratee it 2234 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 1: holping you save your money here. 2235 01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:55,400 Speaker 5: Mom. 2236 01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,640 Speaker 2: God. I asked if I could pay in cash, but 2237 01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,840 Speaker 2: she said that she only does bitcoin for clients and 2238 01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,880 Speaker 2: that I could pay in cash later bitcoin. That's bullshit, dude, 2239 01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,679 Speaker 2: scam scams. 2240 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 3: You're getting scams. This feels like a scam. 2241 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 2: What hooker uses bitcoin? One that is a crypto investor? 2242 01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,400 Speaker 2: What there's I low sell high. No way hookers are 2243 01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:21,600 Speaker 2: using bitcoin unless they're like an L. Salvador because like 2244 01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:24,120 Speaker 2: everyone uses bitcoin there, right? Is that the bitcoin the 2245 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:27,160 Speaker 2: concept is a currency. Yeah, they use it. That's a 2246 01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,000 Speaker 2: cash business. Yeah, I feel like cash up front. Well, 2247 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,240 Speaker 2: I guess I feel like they could use some scammy 2248 01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,759 Speaker 2: websites tricky, but like if you're actually sending bitcoin, that's doable. 2249 01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:38,479 Speaker 2: And also it's not like you're getting a virtual service, 2250 01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:40,760 Speaker 2: like if they're meeting you in person, give them money 2251 01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 2: when they meet you. 2252 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,639 Speaker 3: Do you pay money for your grabs and new breats? 2253 01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:44,639 Speaker 3: You are right? 2254 01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,320 Speaker 2: That is that is a good point. That is a 2255 01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 2: good point. That is a good point. Grab is like 2256 01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 2: uber here, fuck you did you did get me to 2257 01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 2: get me? Not that well? But also also sending it 2258 01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 2: through bitcoin less of a chance of maybe getting in trouble. 2259 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:02,000 Speaker 1: By the copercent until they find your address and then 2260 01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,000 Speaker 1: you're really fucked. Sam says escorts should not use bitcoin. 2261 01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:06,439 Speaker 1: That is Sam's advice of the day. 2262 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,519 Speaker 2: I don't know, like I just don't see an escort 2263 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,519 Speaker 2: using bitcoin. I just see them using cash. 2264 01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:13,600 Speaker 3: But that's what he sees. That's what Sam wants in 2265 01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:14,479 Speaker 3: the world. Yeah. 2266 01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:16,599 Speaker 2: I told her that I didn't have a bitcoin wall, 2267 01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 2: and she then said that there were bitcoin exchanges near me. 2268 01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,559 Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, if the hooker is educating you 2269 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:26,680 Speaker 2: on crypto, run this is really bad. Bro. First we 2270 01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,560 Speaker 2: went from random link in the text message to bitcoin, 2271 01:43:30,720 --> 01:43:32,760 Speaker 2: Like as soon as they start saying, do you know 2272 01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,720 Speaker 2: what that crypto is a great way to you know, 2273 01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 2: have your assets and start giving you the fucking Blockchaine 2274 01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:39,320 Speaker 2: spiel not about it, go to. 2275 01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 3: Bitcoin one two three, dot sex versus here. 2276 01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, fell from one of those scams, dude. I saw 2277 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,120 Speaker 2: a video of Elon Musk and it was like him 2278 01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,200 Speaker 2: talking about like the new coin and then you click 2279 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:52,960 Speaker 2: the link and it was like this thing where he's like, 2280 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,000 Speaker 2: you know, I'm crowdfunding investment for blah blah blah blah, 2281 01:43:56,080 --> 01:43:58,320 Speaker 2: and like the first people in will get something. I 2282 01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:00,000 Speaker 2: was like, oh, that sounds pretty sick. And I saw 2283 01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 2: on YouTube and it was totally not him? Was it? 2284 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:03,800 Speaker 2: AI say? Totally not him? But it was like it 2285 01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,679 Speaker 2: looked like a podcast interview. Crazy danger. That is danger. 2286 01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,960 Speaker 2: The only reason it didn't happen is because I didn't 2287 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,800 Speaker 2: have everything set up. I would have done it if 2288 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:11,559 Speaker 2: I had things set up. 2289 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,000 Speaker 1: The only person more danger right now is maybe OPI, 2290 01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:15,679 Speaker 1: But actually I think you were more danger. 2291 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2292 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 1: I give her a fake location a few minutes away 2293 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:19,679 Speaker 1: from me in another campus hall. 2294 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:21,719 Speaker 3: I'm in a college town. Is Obi in college? 2295 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 2: Though? In college? Bro? That would be This would be 2296 01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 2: a classic, like eighteen year old, just like if you're 2297 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:31,080 Speaker 2: in a college town there are literally girls all around you. 2298 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,519 Speaker 3: What did I work on your RIZ game? If he 2299 01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,720 Speaker 3: has no RIZ? What if he has zero RIZ and. 2300 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,840 Speaker 2: An all big ooins? So come on now? 2301 01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:40,479 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2302 01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:41,839 Speaker 2: What if he bought. 2303 01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,759 Speaker 1: Bigcoin, didn't didn't do the service, and then he became 2304 01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:45,520 Speaker 1: a millionaire. 2305 01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:47,280 Speaker 3: That actually would be great. 2306 01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:50,439 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I became a millionaire by trying not 2307 01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:51,920 Speaker 2: hooker and forgetting about it. 2308 01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:52,800 Speaker 3: That would be pretty happen. 2309 01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,720 Speaker 1: She told me the location of this store with a 2310 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,600 Speaker 1: bitcoin exchange. While I was walking to the store, she 2311 01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:02,400 Speaker 1: sent me some newdie Somewhere along the line. I asked 2312 01:45:02,439 --> 01:45:04,479 Speaker 1: her if half the money could be paid in cash 2313 01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 1: and half could be in bitscoin, and she accepted. I 2314 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,680 Speaker 1: told her it was difficult because I barely had a 2315 01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: data connection for her to guide me through it inside 2316 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,120 Speaker 1: the building. Eventually, after walking inside and out a bunch 2317 01:45:15,120 --> 01:45:17,640 Speaker 1: of times to confirm the exchange through my phone and 2318 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,799 Speaker 1: receive more instructions from her, I became frustrated and asked 2319 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:23,599 Speaker 1: why she couldn't drive there and have me pay her in. 2320 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:26,200 Speaker 2: Cash, Because you're getting scammed, op yeap. 2321 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,680 Speaker 1: She gave me some weird explanation about the agency of 2322 01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:31,920 Speaker 1: requiring the bitcoin transaction as a confirmation or something. I 2323 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,680 Speaker 1: kept telling her I couldn't, but she seemed desperate that 2324 01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,360 Speaker 1: I did, so I guess I kind of tried, but 2325 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,800 Speaker 1: I got sick of walking in and outside of the 2326 01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,280 Speaker 1: store for a phone data connection, so I gave up 2327 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:43,360 Speaker 1: and told her I couldn't. 2328 01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:47,559 Speaker 2: Literally, Op was too poor to send the money. He 2329 01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,679 Speaker 2: couldn't afford the data to send. Mondy my five killed 2330 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:55,200 Speaker 2: by data plane is running out brot nothing against him 2331 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,040 Speaker 2: being broke. It's just like, if you're broke, don't spend 2332 01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:00,719 Speaker 2: hundreds of dollars on hookers. I mean, sorry sex workers. 2333 01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:04,040 Speaker 2: There we go my feminism books. Yeah, oh my god. 2334 01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,760 Speaker 1: I also kind of felt religiously guilty about doing it. 2335 01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 1: Wait he almost felt what he felt religiously guilty. 2336 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:13,439 Speaker 2: About hiring the sex worker. Yeah, guilty because of religion. 2337 01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,519 Speaker 1: He's guilty so frequently he's religiously guilty. I have my 2338 01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:20,400 Speaker 1: categories of guilt. There's casual guilts, and then there's religious guilt. 2339 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:22,280 Speaker 1: It seems like the communication is really hard. You know, 2340 01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,040 Speaker 1: he needs two dead birds instantly, have a freaking Centaria 2341 01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:30,479 Speaker 1: connection with her. Row get that Afro Cuban religious vibe. 2342 01:46:30,520 --> 01:46:32,960 Speaker 2: Go in. There's no guilt in that religious zero guilts. 2343 01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 2: As many sex workers as you want. They say, you 2344 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:35,600 Speaker 2: can have it. 2345 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:36,280 Speaker 3: Zero gilt. 2346 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,240 Speaker 2: All goat heads, all goattheads. Yeah, dude, they're all about 2347 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,559 Speaker 2: that head. Let me tell you. You don't want to 2348 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:41,080 Speaker 2: know what they do. 2349 01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:42,920 Speaker 3: But they fucked the goathead. Oh god. 2350 01:46:43,400 --> 01:46:45,479 Speaker 1: I left and the store owner asked I I was 2351 01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 1: going to return. I told him no, and then he 2352 01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 1: closed the store. She didn't believe me when I told 2353 01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,960 Speaker 1: her that the store was closed. She then began threatening 2354 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,519 Speaker 1: to expose me or whatever for wasting her time, and 2355 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 1: she claimed that the agency lost money or something. I 2356 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,680 Speaker 1: still refused. She made me a deal to do it tomorrow, 2357 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:05,439 Speaker 1: and I still refused. I felt really guilty, religiously about 2358 01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:06,880 Speaker 1: contracting a sex worker. 2359 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:10,120 Speaker 2: Switch to Centario bro. It's all good, it's all great fields. 2360 01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,799 Speaker 1: I asked her where I was going to be reported, slash, 2361 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:15,519 Speaker 1: exposed or whatever, and she said, you'll see. 2362 01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:16,960 Speaker 3: Uh, that's pretty good. 2363 01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:21,320 Speaker 2: I mean, he fucking used his phone, real phone number. 2364 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:22,599 Speaker 3: This is really bad. 2365 01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:24,920 Speaker 2: The whole thing did seem a bit shady, and she 2366 01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,719 Speaker 2: did seem very desperate that I pay her in bitcoin 2367 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,040 Speaker 2: because it's a scam. 2368 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,639 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is hard to hear. Yeah, onto 2369 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,080 Speaker 1: the threat the important part. So a week or so later, 2370 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,200 Speaker 1: some guy contacted me about wasting time. I deleted the 2371 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,960 Speaker 1: message and blocked the number. Come today, a new number 2372 01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,519 Speaker 1: contacted me. It began with like twelve gory images of 2373 01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:49,000 Speaker 1: people being brutally beaten up or oft in one way 2374 01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:52,599 Speaker 1: or another. The accompanying message was hey sir two times 2375 01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:56,200 Speaker 1: and this was paraphrasing shortened. We are communicating directly from 2376 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,640 Speaker 1: the escort agency. We have evidence you were talking to 2377 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:00,479 Speaker 1: one of my girls, and I have evidence while she 2378 01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:03,320 Speaker 1: was talking to you, she stopped talking to several clients 2379 01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:06,640 Speaker 1: who had separate appointments. Those clients canceled appointments because of 2380 01:48:06,680 --> 01:48:09,519 Speaker 1: the mistake you made in my agency system to waste time. 2381 01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,479 Speaker 1: The agency lost four thousand dollars, but I won't charge 2382 01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:13,160 Speaker 1: you that much. 2383 01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,280 Speaker 2: Four thousand dollars. Bro, they're fucking bleeding that business dry. 2384 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:23,320 Speaker 2: If this sex worker is making what like three hundred 2385 01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,000 Speaker 2: dollars max. Going down to a fifty percent discount for 2386 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:30,240 Speaker 2: this dude, unless they're like planning on investing the seventy 2387 01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,120 Speaker 2: dollars the dude putting bitcoin and that growing to four 2388 01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:35,960 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. This is a bad business model, which is 2389 01:48:36,000 --> 01:48:39,280 Speaker 2: why don't start an escort business. You know what? Op 2390 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,880 Speaker 2: should just keep doing it from new numbers and just 2391 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:44,599 Speaker 2: aankorrupt the operation. I mean, they don't have the business 2392 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:48,040 Speaker 2: fundamentals when in doubt, doubled down and yeah, take it literally. 2393 01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,759 Speaker 2: They're selling sex. That's the easiest thing in the world 2394 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,640 Speaker 2: to sell, and they're boofing it. 2395 01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:53,240 Speaker 3: Apparently. 2396 01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:56,240 Speaker 2: Look up Harvard MBA business plans. It'll help if you 2397 01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,000 Speaker 2: know how to explain bitcoin. You could probably do this. 2398 01:48:58,120 --> 01:49:00,240 Speaker 3: There we go, see you're halfway there. 2399 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pay a fine of seven hundred 2400 01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,519 Speaker 2: and fifty dollars if you do not solve this problem. 2401 01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,759 Speaker 2: I will tear your head and your relatives. This happens 2402 01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:12,080 Speaker 2: with everybody that plays with us. Waste our time with 2403 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:14,519 Speaker 2: my agency and my girls. Solve this or not. 2404 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:15,960 Speaker 3: He had horrible english. 2405 01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,880 Speaker 2: Okay, I mean this is obviously a progression of the scam. 2406 01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is them trying to get as much money 2407 01:49:20,760 --> 01:49:22,479 Speaker 1: as they can. I was extremely scared. 2408 01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,720 Speaker 2: I deleted all gory images but one screenshot of the 2409 01:49:25,720 --> 01:49:28,439 Speaker 2: message and buried it somewhere in my phone's files from 2410 01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:29,000 Speaker 2: plain sight. 2411 01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,479 Speaker 3: What do I do? Is this a scam? I can't ignore? 2412 01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:33,000 Speaker 3: Should that scam? 2413 01:49:33,200 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 2: It's a scam? Bock idiot, dummy? What if it's not 2414 01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:37,440 Speaker 2: a scam? 2415 01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,519 Speaker 3: Bro it's a scam? Or you're about to be murdered? 2416 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:41,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 2417 01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:43,880 Speaker 1: Should I contact the police? Will I get in trouble 2418 01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,679 Speaker 1: for contacting sex worker? I'm pretty sure they're illegal here 2419 01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:48,640 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. 2420 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:55,440 Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're painful, Angel, You are so stupid, 2421 01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:59,040 Speaker 5: so dumb goes on a website from a random text 2422 01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:00,000 Speaker 5: message on his phone. 2423 01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,800 Speaker 3: I realized people fell for that. I mean, there has 2424 01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,599 Speaker 3: to be someone who falls for otherwise than what. 2425 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,160 Speaker 2: They do do. Right. It's true, that's true. But I 2426 01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:08,200 Speaker 2: usually it's like old people, like this guy's in the 2427 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,240 Speaker 2: college town. That's true. Yeah, and maybe he's an older 2428 01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:12,559 Speaker 2: guy living in a college town. 2429 01:50:12,640 --> 01:50:15,519 Speaker 3: I don't know. Man, this guy is an idiot. He's 2430 01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:16,160 Speaker 3: so dumb. 2431 01:50:16,280 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 2: Maybe you deserve to be torn limb from limb. Now 2432 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,519 Speaker 2: you don't deserve that. You don't deserve that, but you 2433 01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,639 Speaker 2: at least deserve chlamydia. I hope you learned your lesson. 2434 01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,240 Speaker 2: This is not good again, it's a scam. But what 2435 01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:30,120 Speaker 2: I'd love to know from our audience is, have you 2436 01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,120 Speaker 2: ever hired a sex worker? Strippers count? Do strippers count? 2437 01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,640 Speaker 2: If the stripper gave a blowjob it counts? Or a 2438 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:37,800 Speaker 2: hand job? All Right, before I dig myself a bigger 2439 01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:43,240 Speaker 2: hole story, let's go. Mother in law was stocking me 2440 01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,840 Speaker 2: and ruining my marriage and now she's missing. 2441 01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,759 Speaker 3: Am I the asshole? For being relieved? 2442 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,479 Speaker 2: Depends on uh, you know, there's levels to this, you 2443 01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,639 Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, did she disappear in cartel territory? 2444 01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,439 Speaker 2: And now her body's chopped up in the back of 2445 01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:57,760 Speaker 2: a pickup truck. That's a pretty bad level to be at, 2446 01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 2: you know. Was she opened up and had drug stuffed 2447 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,040 Speaker 2: inside her and then closed up and then snuck across 2448 01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,600 Speaker 2: the border to traffic. 2449 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,639 Speaker 3: Drugs, that would be terrible. 2450 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:10,479 Speaker 2: Real story that happened to my mom's friend. Wow, Actually, 2451 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,920 Speaker 2: that's insanity. I can tell that story later, all right. 2452 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,000 Speaker 2: My mother in law and I never had a good relationship. 2453 01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:19,360 Speaker 2: She has tried to sabotage my relationship with my husband 2454 01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,720 Speaker 2: since the day she met me. I wasn't good enough 2455 01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,720 Speaker 2: for handsome and successful little boy. I contemplated ending my 2456 01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,000 Speaker 2: relationship several times, but my husband always showed me that 2457 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:31,280 Speaker 2: he is on my side and I love him. A 2458 01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,120 Speaker 2: few years ago, I started getting very threatening and scary 2459 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,280 Speaker 2: emails and texts from a PAX. 2460 01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:39,160 Speaker 3: What's a pax? Riley, what's the pas? Produce? 2461 01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:42,120 Speaker 2: The ensa capital PA? If you know what this means? 2462 01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:44,559 Speaker 2: Let us know this packs. Maybe it's like John, like 2463 01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,040 Speaker 2: you know, like a like a uncle, go over here 2464 01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 2: like this John. Oh oh yeah, it's like a thing person, 2465 01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:52,680 Speaker 2: et cetera. Maybe this PAX knew everything about me. It 2466 01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:55,879 Speaker 2: didn't matter how many emails and phone numbers I changed, 2467 01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,280 Speaker 2: they or he always found me. I made several reports, 2468 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,320 Speaker 2: but nothing happened. My husband tried everything to trace the emails. 2469 01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:04,840 Speaker 2: Nothing came out of it. This past year, I basically 2470 01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,760 Speaker 2: never left the apartment alone. Suddenly, my mother in law 2471 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:10,479 Speaker 2: passed away in a car accident the same time my 2472 01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,320 Speaker 2: stalker disappeared. I haven't received a single threatening text or 2473 01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:16,519 Speaker 2: email from packs in a month. After a few days, 2474 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,080 Speaker 2: I wasn't surprised, felt like I always knew his mother 2475 01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 2: in law deep down. 2476 01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:21,559 Speaker 3: My husband hasn't reacted yet. 2477 01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,559 Speaker 2: He's consumed with his grief, and I don't want to 2478 01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,920 Speaker 2: bother him, especially when he bitterly told me he must 2479 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:28,160 Speaker 2: be very pleased now when he heard the news and 2480 01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,439 Speaker 2: I tried to comfort him. He apologized later and said 2481 01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:32,680 Speaker 2: he was feeling guilty and he loved and chose me 2482 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:34,960 Speaker 2: more than he loved her. Now, I'm waiting for him 2483 01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:37,080 Speaker 2: to connect the dots. Will he get it. If he does, 2484 01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:38,680 Speaker 2: will he talk to me about it? I don't know 2485 01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:40,400 Speaker 2: if I will ever bring it up to him. Also, 2486 01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:42,559 Speaker 2: I won't relax and go back to my normal life 2487 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:44,559 Speaker 2: just yet. But I know it in my heart that 2488 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,120 Speaker 2: it's over and I can't be happier about my life 2489 01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,880 Speaker 2: in the fact, and she's saying the stalking is over 2490 01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:51,479 Speaker 2: from the mother in law and there is an update. 2491 01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,439 Speaker 1: I really hate how the husband is like, oh, I 2492 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,680 Speaker 1: loved you more and chose you over her. It's like 2493 01:52:56,760 --> 01:52:59,640 Speaker 1: it's not like a competition. He's not a competition. And 2494 01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:00,880 Speaker 1: it's not like bin air. 2495 01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:03,320 Speaker 2: It's not like, oh I either you know, love my 2496 01:53:03,439 --> 01:53:05,559 Speaker 2: wife or I love my mom and like I gotta, 2497 01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,120 Speaker 2: you know, leave what Like. 2498 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:08,599 Speaker 3: No, no, what is this? 2499 01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,479 Speaker 2: But I think probably because of how the mom acted, 2500 01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:12,800 Speaker 2: she was like, choose me over her. 2501 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and probably like I mean, probably his whole life. 2502 01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,760 Speaker 1: She probably like twisted his brain to Yeah. Someone who 2503 01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 1: would do that to their daughter in law, Yeah, fucking nuts, 2504 01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:24,120 Speaker 1: absolute insane person. 2505 01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:25,960 Speaker 3: But I do have an update. So I was here 2506 01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:26,720 Speaker 3: maybe a month ago. 2507 01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:28,840 Speaker 2: If I find it, I will post it talking about 2508 01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,280 Speaker 2: me suspecting that my mother in law was my stalker 2509 01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:33,519 Speaker 2: who tormented me for years. I was trying to get 2510 01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,479 Speaker 2: advice about whether or not to tell my husband, who 2511 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,439 Speaker 2: was mourning her. I decided to wait a little, but 2512 01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:40,639 Speaker 2: after venting here, I was sure that she was my stalker. 2513 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,320 Speaker 2: I started living like I never did before, with ten 2514 01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,800 Speaker 2: minute walks alone, then fifty and then a half hour 2515 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,559 Speaker 2: and so on, so literally, OPI wouldn't go outside because 2516 01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,240 Speaker 2: of this. It's so insane. At first, my husband didn't 2517 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:53,680 Speaker 2: notice my freedom, or maybe he did but was processing 2518 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,040 Speaker 2: it himself. Last Friday, I told him that I was 2519 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,839 Speaker 2: going out with the girls alone. 2520 01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,320 Speaker 3: Yes, want me to drive you there? 2521 01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,599 Speaker 2: No need? Are you not afraid anymore? No? 2522 01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:03,680 Speaker 3: My stalker won't bother. 2523 01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,720 Speaker 2: Me ever again. He kissed me and wished me a 2524 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,160 Speaker 2: nice evening. When I came home around midnight, he was 2525 01:54:08,200 --> 01:54:10,040 Speaker 2: still up. He said that he wanted to talk to me. 2526 01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:13,400 Speaker 2: He asked me, was my mother your stalker? Yes? He 2527 01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 2: broke down crying. He said he had always suspected her 2528 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 2: and even talked to her a couple times about it, 2529 01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,880 Speaker 2: and she made him so guilty by accusing him of 2530 01:54:20,920 --> 01:54:23,720 Speaker 2: being my simp. He said he noticed how, after so 2531 01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,280 Speaker 2: many years of fear and anxiety, it suddenly stopped, and 2532 01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,800 Speaker 2: eventually the crying in my sleep stopped too, And he 2533 01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,559 Speaker 2: noticed that I haven't woken him up for a month now. 2534 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:34,120 Speaker 2: I actually don't remember half of the time I woke 2535 01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,080 Speaker 2: him up. In terror, but he always told me and 2536 01:54:36,120 --> 01:54:38,880 Speaker 2: my therapist about it. Whenever it happened. He apologized for 2537 01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:41,240 Speaker 2: never discussing it with me and never protecting me from 2538 01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,960 Speaker 2: his family, even though he had his suspicions. Honestly, I'm 2539 01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,240 Speaker 2: not even mad or disappointed if the police couldn't help me. 2540 01:54:46,280 --> 01:54:48,080 Speaker 2: I don't know how much my husband could have done, 2541 01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:50,000 Speaker 2: and I just want to move on and leave this behind. 2542 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,280 Speaker 2: We're going to start couple's therapy and my husband is 2543 01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:54,720 Speaker 2: planning to tell his family that mother in law was 2544 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,320 Speaker 2: my stalker. He's adamant about it, and honestly, I think 2545 01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,720 Speaker 2: it's a good idea. My husband has also decided not 2546 01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:03,320 Speaker 2: to attend the headstone setting on mother in law's grave. 2547 01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,720 Speaker 2: Damn crazy situation. 2548 01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's like, imagine finding that out about 2549 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:09,560 Speaker 1: your mother. 2550 01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 2: I know I couldn't imagine, but it sounds like op 2551 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,880 Speaker 2: he was already suspicious, so it might be something that 2552 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:16,120 Speaker 2: this mother does, you know. Yeah. 2553 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,360 Speaker 3: God, we get. 2554 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,240 Speaker 1: Some bad mother and law stories on the show. This 2555 01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,840 Speaker 1: is like insidious evil. This is beyond just like being 2556 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:23,480 Speaker 1: an asshole. 2557 01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an evil person. And it's not like 2558 01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,120 Speaker 2: it was just online or whatever. This crept into op's life. 2559 01:55:29,160 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 2: She wouldn't leave the house without her husband completely and 2560 01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:36,000 Speaker 2: also like their lives together, Like she's like, God, yeah, 2561 01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,480 Speaker 2: so terrible. But I mean, yeah, what would you do 2562 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,720 Speaker 2: in this situation if you were the husband and you 2563 01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:45,600 Speaker 2: realized that your mother was tormenting your significant other? Yeah, 2564 01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,440 Speaker 2: I would love to know what you would do. My 2565 01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,880 Speaker 2: ex cheated and left me at the altar two years ago. 2566 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:52,360 Speaker 2: He wants to talk, but maybe I don't. Am I 2567 01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,520 Speaker 2: the a hole? Yes, you're the a hole for him cheating, 2568 01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,000 Speaker 2: because maybe you should have just done better and he 2569 01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't cheated. My twenty eight feet ex fiance, Derek, Fuck 2570 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:04,400 Speaker 2: you Derek. Yeah. 2571 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,520 Speaker 1: Thirty two male disappeared the morning of our wedding two 2572 01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:12,240 Speaker 1: years ago, evading all attempts to reach him. Wow from 2573 01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:13,960 Speaker 1: myself and his family because he's dead. 2574 01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:17,320 Speaker 2: Oh, that would be a. 2575 01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:20,160 Speaker 1: Tough plot to us. It was devastating, absolutely soul crushing. 2576 01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,600 Speaker 1: The event turned into a party to distract from the 2577 01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:25,640 Speaker 1: pain of the unknown. Afterwards, I returned to our apartment 2578 01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:28,360 Speaker 1: and slept on the bathroom floor in my wedding dress. 2579 01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:32,960 Speaker 2: Oh that is the most tragic scene ever. Yeah, a 2580 01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:37,000 Speaker 2: woman crying on a bathroom floor in her wedding dress, alone. 2581 01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:39,440 Speaker 1: And falling asleep because she's just there for so long. 2582 01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:44,760 Speaker 1: That's so sad. I am sorry tough. It was quite 2583 01:56:44,840 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 1: the ugly sight, to be honest. His mother ended up 2584 01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:50,520 Speaker 1: coming to the apartment when she informed me tearfully that 2585 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:54,520 Speaker 1: Derek had run off with an x of his Wow, 2586 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:56,480 Speaker 1: so not only did he leave her at the altar, 2587 01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:59,200 Speaker 1: he left her for somebody else. 2588 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:04,120 Speaker 2: Derek really just like, I mean, that ex just snuck in. 2589 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,680 Speaker 2: He was like, hey, let me save you the trouble 2590 01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:09,160 Speaker 2: of his whole someone having any objection then. 2591 01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:13,440 Speaker 3: Being like, let's cut this off, like little key the riz. 2592 01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,760 Speaker 2: You gotta have to riz up someone moments before they 2593 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:17,400 Speaker 2: get married. 2594 01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:18,760 Speaker 3: Hats off to you. 2595 01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:22,520 Speaker 1: They had apparently reconnected a week prior to the wedding, 2596 01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,440 Speaker 1: and he just couldn't go through with this. 2597 01:57:24,600 --> 01:57:27,520 Speaker 3: Whoa a week? Come on, that's a riz. 2598 01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:30,160 Speaker 2: Come on, make a man rizz Like, there has to 2599 01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:32,880 Speaker 2: be a better word to describe. That's why I riz, 2600 01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:36,520 Speaker 2: opting instead to rekindle his relationship with his ex. 2601 01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 1: His family was horrified. I didn't hear from him until 2602 01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,200 Speaker 1: three months after he left. He called me, apologized, and 2603 01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:46,200 Speaker 1: then revealed that his ex had been hiding his child 2604 01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,560 Speaker 1: from him that he just found out about. 2605 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:55,160 Speaker 2: Whoa dude, that's complicated. That's complicated, but you shouldn't run 2606 01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:55,880 Speaker 2: off with her. 2607 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,240 Speaker 1: I could see him being like, I just found out 2608 01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,120 Speaker 1: I have a child, and I'm confused. I'm so sorry, 2609 01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:03,760 Speaker 1: but like, let's just like I need some time not 2610 01:58:04,040 --> 01:58:06,800 Speaker 1: running off on the day of the wedding when she's 2611 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:10,040 Speaker 1: like in her gown and like makeup and everyone's there. 2612 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:11,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 2613 01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying it's necessarily even wrong for him 2614 01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:17,680 Speaker 1: to like find out about the kid in question everything. 2615 01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but it is wrong to run off at 2616 01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:23,240 Speaker 2: a wedding. That's pretty much all that was said. I 2617 01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 2: didn't say much, actually, I only said hello. The whole 2618 01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:31,040 Speaker 2: situation left me numb. I just didn't care anymore. Thankfully, though, 2619 01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:33,440 Speaker 2: my friends were and continue to be there for me 2620 01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:36,040 Speaker 2: through all of this muck. They encouraged me to seek 2621 01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,080 Speaker 2: therapy and work on healing. Those are good friends, which 2622 01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,160 Speaker 2: I'll be honest was terribly difficult, But after a year 2623 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:46,080 Speaker 2: I felt myself again, which brings me to today. After 2624 01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:49,960 Speaker 2: this whole debacle and subsequent self improvement slash rebuilding, I 2625 01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:50,840 Speaker 2: moved to the UK. 2626 01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm originally from Australia. Ooh, we love an Australian battie. Yoh, 2627 01:58:57,360 --> 01:58:59,680 Speaker 1: I heard you single? Last night I got a message 2628 01:58:59,680 --> 01:59:05,640 Speaker 1: request on Instagram. It was Derek, Fuck you, Derek, Derek Hey, 2629 01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,280 Speaker 1: white hand wave emoji. I've heard you move to Wales. 2630 01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:12,720 Speaker 1: That's so cool. I'm traveling to Cardiff towards the end 2631 01:59:12,760 --> 01:59:15,440 Speaker 1: of July. I'm deeply sorry about everything, and I want 2632 01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,760 Speaker 1: to discuss what happened leading up to the wedding. I 2633 01:59:17,760 --> 01:59:19,760 Speaker 1: hope I'm not overwhelming. You let me know if you 2634 01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:23,720 Speaker 1: like to talk over lunch. Bro fucking Gow Are you 2635 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 1: kidding me? 2636 01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:28,000 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, like it is a nice text if 2637 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 2: he didn't leave her at the fucking altar exactly, dude, 2638 01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry I missed it, like would have loved 2639 01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:37,040 Speaker 2: to been there, but you know, like the kid and everything, 2640 01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:38,600 Speaker 2: I just started thinking. 2641 01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know how you know how I get when I. 2642 01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:44,959 Speaker 2: Think, yup, I do things like leave you at the altar. Firstly, 2643 01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,560 Speaker 2: no idea who told him about my move. 2644 01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:51,320 Speaker 1: Secondly, I don't know if I crave closure from him, 2645 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,640 Speaker 1: but I also don't want to decide to decline to 2646 01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,120 Speaker 1: only later regret my decision. So I turned to you, 2647 01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:02,040 Speaker 1: strangers of the internet. Okay, you buys. What should I 2648 02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,840 Speaker 1: think about before reaching a decision? Would it be wise 2649 02:00:04,880 --> 02:00:07,640 Speaker 1: to decline? Or should I honor him and listen to 2650 02:00:07,800 --> 02:00:12,720 Speaker 1: his reasons? There is a juicy update? Oh no, there is, Yeah, 2651 02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:16,480 Speaker 1: there's a juicy update. Okay, I thoughts, I thoughts, Your thoughts, 2652 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,440 Speaker 1: my thoughts. I want to know everyone else's thoughts. Put 2653 02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:22,280 Speaker 1: your answers to the comments below. But my first thought is, fuck, no, 2654 02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:29,120 Speaker 1: you don't owe this cocksucking, suck throbbing and dick guy anything. 2655 02:00:29,320 --> 02:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Nope, nothing, zeriratta. Literally he left you at the altar. 2656 02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:36,760 Speaker 2: The ball is in your court you. If you need closure, 2657 02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,200 Speaker 2: go for it. Girl. If you want to heal and 2658 02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:43,120 Speaker 2: this will open up a wound that is is scabbing 2659 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:46,200 Speaker 2: over and and and scar and getting that scar tissue 2660 02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:49,200 Speaker 2: in there and like healing up, then do that. I 2661 02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:53,120 Speaker 2: think whatever op he feels she needs to heal, she 2662 02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:57,240 Speaker 2: should do. I don't really think this guy deserves any consideration. 2663 02:00:57,520 --> 02:00:59,840 Speaker 1: I get the message was you know, it could be 2664 02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:01,600 Speaker 1: in many other scenarios. 2665 02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,320 Speaker 2: But if you're like, oh hey, I'm traveling through heard 2666 02:01:04,400 --> 02:01:07,040 Speaker 2: you win here hope it was great, Like, yeah, I would. 2667 02:01:07,040 --> 02:01:09,800 Speaker 2: I would put a fucking a couple of stories in there. Yeah, 2668 02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:13,080 Speaker 2: I would lead with like, uh, you know this is what. 2669 02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:13,640 Speaker 3: I would lead with. 2670 02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Hey, I know you probably don't want to talk to 2671 02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:19,400 Speaker 2: me right now, and if that's true, just ignore this text. 2672 02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:21,480 Speaker 2: But I know you're gonna be here. I'm also going 2673 02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:23,960 Speaker 2: to be here if you want to talk. I would 2674 02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:25,680 Speaker 2: love to see him. That makes it feel like he's 2675 02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:27,800 Speaker 2: like not serious. Yeah, it also makes it feel like 2676 02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:30,400 Speaker 2: he's not acknowledging the shitty thing that he did. Yes, 2677 02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:34,040 Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but let's see what happens. Wow. 2678 02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,840 Speaker 1: This garnered far more intention than I anticipated, So bear 2679 02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,400 Speaker 1: with me as I try to navigate this advice. Although 2680 02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 1: the general consensus is quite clear, I have learned that 2681 02:01:42,240 --> 02:01:45,720 Speaker 1: an old mutual friend of ours revealed where I moved, 2682 02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:48,640 Speaker 1: and evidently he's been stressing that he needs to tell 2683 02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:49,200 Speaker 1: me something. 2684 02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:50,720 Speaker 2: He's pregnant. He's pregnant. 2685 02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:53,120 Speaker 1: For the time being, I've decided to simply ignore his 2686 02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:56,800 Speaker 1: message and work through any emerging feelings with my therapist 2687 02:01:57,360 --> 02:02:01,120 Speaker 1: and the final update, Hello one. I did update in 2688 02:02:01,120 --> 02:02:06,640 Speaker 1: my original post plus you, So, as I previously mentioned, 2689 02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I decided to not respond to his message. A day after, however, 2690 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:14,360 Speaker 1: I received another message from him. He apologized for how disingenuous. 2691 02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:15,800 Speaker 1: His original message. 2692 02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:19,800 Speaker 2: Was thank you Finally this dude has done one thing right, 2693 02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:22,839 Speaker 2: and he explained to me why he reached out to me. Essentially, 2694 02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:25,760 Speaker 2: he wanted to discuss that week, that final week before 2695 02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:29,200 Speaker 2: our wedding, and the events leading up to him dipping out. Now, 2696 02:02:29,240 --> 02:02:32,280 Speaker 2: I will refrain from the entirety delving into my exes 2697 02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:35,280 Speaker 2: and ice passed, but my ex fiance was diagnosed with 2698 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:38,840 Speaker 2: PTSD and avoidant attributions from past experiences. 2699 02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,160 Speaker 3: His diagnosis did. 2700 02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:42,440 Speaker 2: Provide quite a bit of clarity looking back at our 2701 02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:45,400 Speaker 2: relationship and his past behavior. So I truly feel for 2702 02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:46,640 Speaker 2: him in his journey. 2703 02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:47,000 Speaker 3: Of self feeling. 2704 02:02:47,080 --> 02:02:51,640 Speaker 2: That is pretty pretty damn empathetic of OPI if I myself. 2705 02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,920 Speaker 3: To be empathetic, just busy has a diagnosis. 2706 02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2707 02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:58,000 Speaker 1: However, despite his struggles, I still told him that I 2708 02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,200 Speaker 1: couldn't forgive him for his callous of leaving me in 2709 02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,520 Speaker 1: a perpetual state of limbo for three months. 2710 02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:07,240 Speaker 3: Unsure of why he abandoned me. He said, he understood. 2711 02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,160 Speaker 1: Now, and some of you will be quite mad at me, 2712 02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:12,960 Speaker 1: but I ultimately agreed to meet him for lunch and 2713 02:03:13,080 --> 02:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I don't regret it. 2714 02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:17,160 Speaker 2: Interesting, why don't you regret it? OPI he is not 2715 02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:18,040 Speaker 2: with his ex. 2716 02:03:18,400 --> 02:03:21,840 Speaker 1: Actually, she passed away six months after he left me 2717 02:03:21,880 --> 02:03:25,320 Speaker 1: at the Altar, What my God, which is part of 2718 02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,760 Speaker 1: the reason why she reached out to him in the 2719 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,600 Speaker 1: first place. Since then, he has been working on himself 2720 02:03:30,640 --> 02:03:33,160 Speaker 1: through therapy and navigating single fatherhood. 2721 02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:36,200 Speaker 3: And yes, the child is his woo. 2722 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:39,120 Speaker 2: So this ex contacted him and say, hey, I have 2723 02:03:39,160 --> 02:03:41,560 Speaker 2: six months to live and you have a kid. Yep, 2724 02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:46,040 Speaker 2: fuck fuck. Okay, he's still an asshole for not telling 2725 02:03:46,320 --> 02:03:49,720 Speaker 2: OP about what's going on, But if he did tell 2726 02:03:49,720 --> 02:03:52,400 Speaker 2: OP that I have to leave you, I would understand that. 2727 02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:54,000 Speaker 2: You just explain it. 2728 02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:58,320 Speaker 3: That's it, that's you know you nick cat man. 2729 02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:02,120 Speaker 2: This is a The lunch wasn't too long, but it 2730 02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:04,120 Speaker 2: was all around cathartic on both sides. 2731 02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,000 Speaker 3: At the end of the lunch, he handed over an 2732 02:04:06,080 --> 02:04:09,720 Speaker 3: envelope which contained all the money we spent preparing for 2733 02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:10,160 Speaker 3: the wedding. 2734 02:04:10,240 --> 02:04:10,840 Speaker 2: The good gesture. 2735 02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:12,800 Speaker 3: Honestly, I was dumbfounded. 2736 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't a gesture I was expecting on his behalf, 2737 02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:16,960 Speaker 1: and I think he was taken aback. 2738 02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,000 Speaker 3: When I returned the ring he gave me. 2739 02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:21,760 Speaker 1: It's funny I held onto the ring just in case 2740 02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:24,560 Speaker 1: I needed to sell it if my finances continued to 2741 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,200 Speaker 1: be unstable, but I never had to ironic that in 2742 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:30,720 Speaker 1: the end, I did receive the money whilst seemingly trading 2743 02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:31,160 Speaker 1: that ring. 2744 02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:32,240 Speaker 3: He looks better. 2745 02:04:32,440 --> 02:04:35,000 Speaker 1: And not to toot my own horn, but I feel 2746 02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:37,680 Speaker 1: I do as well. Now that chapter has concluded, and 2747 02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:39,800 Speaker 1: I no longer feel rage or remorse. 2748 02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:40,800 Speaker 3: I feel free. 2749 02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,920 Speaker 1: I feared that I might have still harbored feelings for him, 2750 02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:46,400 Speaker 1: but I have since found that I loved him for 2751 02:04:46,440 --> 02:04:49,080 Speaker 1: the man he was in that moment when we were together, 2752 02:04:49,240 --> 02:04:51,560 Speaker 1: and though we're now a part, I'm okay with looking 2753 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:53,800 Speaker 1: back and acknowledging the love I had for him. I've 2754 02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,160 Speaker 1: closed that chapter now with him with the woman I 2755 02:04:56,280 --> 02:04:59,000 Speaker 1: was with him. Thank you all so much. Any advice 2756 02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:02,840 Speaker 1: on how I should spend this money I now have, haha, 2757 02:05:03,080 --> 02:05:06,360 Speaker 1: invest it in a brand new wedding. Yeah, but I 2758 02:05:06,360 --> 02:05:08,040 Speaker 1: mean it sounds like it was super cathartic for her. 2759 02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:09,120 Speaker 1: That's actually really nice. 2760 02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:14,200 Speaker 2: I'm very glad. I'm I'm surprised this meetup went so well, 2761 02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,360 Speaker 2: when it easily could have gone south. I was expecting 2762 02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:20,760 Speaker 2: it to go terribly classy move and for him to 2763 02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,280 Speaker 2: return the money. Still, such a ditching someone on the 2764 02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:27,400 Speaker 2: wedding though, it's just yeah, no explanation, you know. I 2765 02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,480 Speaker 2: think he actually could have ditched the wedding, but he 2766 02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,200 Speaker 2: needed some in some context knowing what we do now, 2767 02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,400 Speaker 2: what should he have done? 2768 02:05:34,240 --> 02:05:35,600 Speaker 3: What should he have done? 2769 02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say in this hypothetical, there's no I mean, 2770 02:05:39,120 --> 02:05:41,960 Speaker 1: if there's no way or he is one hundred percent 2771 02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:44,840 Speaker 1: going to leave her for his ex with the child 2772 02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:48,760 Speaker 1: dying X with his child, you sit her down as 2773 02:05:49,160 --> 02:05:53,560 Speaker 1: quickly as possible, and you explain the whole scenario that 2774 02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:55,680 Speaker 1: X reached back out, he has a kid with her, 2775 02:05:56,000 --> 02:05:58,800 Speaker 1: and she's going to pass away in six months. Talk 2776 02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:02,280 Speaker 1: about it immediately, like as soon as possible. 2777 02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,400 Speaker 2: Okay, now you're now you're the wife, all right, Yeah, 2778 02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,720 Speaker 2: I say, babe, I just found out for my ex 2779 02:06:07,800 --> 02:06:10,240 Speaker 2: girlfriend that she's going to die in six months and 2780 02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:15,400 Speaker 2: she is taking care of my child. Yeah, babe, six months, 2781 02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:18,920 Speaker 2: she'll be dead. Pause the wedding for six months, let 2782 02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,400 Speaker 2: me date her for a while, adopt this kid and everything. 2783 02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:24,640 Speaker 2: God then let's re up on the wedding. 2784 02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:28,520 Speaker 1: See that's where I'm like, I still you split and 2785 02:06:28,560 --> 02:06:30,000 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, she has a kid, and 2786 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:30,760 Speaker 1: now you want to go. 2787 02:06:31,160 --> 02:06:33,200 Speaker 3: I get you said the kid. It's the six months. 2788 02:06:33,760 --> 02:06:35,480 Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like you know how, like 2789 02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:38,360 Speaker 2: you know how when you're in like high school or 2790 02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:41,920 Speaker 2: college or like you're about to move, you know, and 2791 02:06:41,960 --> 02:06:44,360 Speaker 2: you're like, hey, this relationship is going to end in 2792 02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:47,720 Speaker 2: three months, like let's just have fun. Oh Jesus Christ, 2793 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:51,680 Speaker 2: it's like that. Oh, like that permanent, permanent version of that. 2794 02:06:51,840 --> 02:06:55,120 Speaker 1: This guy, like, what do you actually say to that? 2795 02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:58,520 Speaker 1: If you are the wife, like truly, I'll pass. Go ahead, 2796 02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,320 Speaker 1: go crazy for six months, crazy for six months. She's 2797 02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:05,120 Speaker 1: going to die. It's his kid. I still don't get it. 2798 02:07:05,240 --> 02:07:07,320 Speaker 1: You could be a father to the kid. Why would 2799 02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,520 Speaker 1: he want to. I don't know why he would want to. 2800 02:07:09,600 --> 02:07:11,920 Speaker 3: She's going to die. Guys, I'm not going to win 2801 02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:12,560 Speaker 3: here today. 2802 02:07:13,000 --> 02:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I probably wouldn't be down if my girlfriend said, Hey, 2803 02:07:15,920 --> 02:07:17,560 Speaker 2: my ex is going to die, can I bone him 2804 02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:19,080 Speaker 2: for the next six months before we get married, I'd 2805 02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:19,640 Speaker 2: probably say no. 2806 02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:22,720 Speaker 3: And our like secret love child? Yeah, yeah, secret love child. 2807 02:07:22,960 --> 02:07:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm good with the adoption, the boning six months before 2808 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:25,640 Speaker 2: the wedding. 2809 02:07:25,680 --> 02:07:28,120 Speaker 3: I'm not not the best. Yeah, not the best? We 2810 02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:28,680 Speaker 3: would you do? 2811 02:07:28,760 --> 02:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Put your answers to the comments below, and let's get 2812 02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:33,360 Speaker 2: into this next story. I cheated with the coworker and 2813 02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:36,360 Speaker 2: now we're planning on running away together, or at least 2814 02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,840 Speaker 2: I am am I the a hole. Damn you know. 2815 02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:40,520 Speaker 3: We've been working so. 2816 02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:45,920 Speaker 2: Hard and so long. I work at international live events 2817 02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:48,880 Speaker 2: that take weeks to pull off. I typically coordinate them 2818 02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:51,120 Speaker 2: and work with my team to install and operate. I'm 2819 02:07:51,120 --> 02:07:53,640 Speaker 2: close with my coworkers, but we live across the world 2820 02:07:53,720 --> 02:07:56,520 Speaker 2: and fly into every event. I've met most of my 2821 02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:59,080 Speaker 2: co workers in person, but this event we had someone 2822 02:07:59,160 --> 02:08:01,000 Speaker 2: new working sound, Clint. 2823 02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:02,240 Speaker 3: I'd seen him in. 2824 02:08:02,320 --> 02:08:06,240 Speaker 2: Zoom calls, but we had an interface directly interface. Oh god. 2825 02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,760 Speaker 2: This event was a big one for the company, big 2826 02:08:08,800 --> 02:08:11,400 Speaker 2: headliner and big partners, with a lot of money being 2827 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:14,200 Speaker 2: tossed around. I arrived at the install, got caught up 2828 02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:17,320 Speaker 2: to speed, met Clint, and got to work. One by one, 2829 02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,120 Speaker 2: my co workers were sent off to other events. Clint 2830 02:08:20,160 --> 02:08:23,760 Speaker 2: and I were left to finish everything up. Oh god, 2831 02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:26,360 Speaker 2: but bad weather and huge letdowns by one of our 2832 02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,320 Speaker 2: vendors had us in hot water like a hot tup. 2833 02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,560 Speaker 2: We started working fifteen to twenty hour days to get 2834 02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,120 Speaker 2: everything done on time. After our long haulidays, Clinton I 2835 02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:38,800 Speaker 2: would hang out in Blaze. Legally, we had a lot 2836 02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:40,960 Speaker 2: in common and we were vibing in a way that 2837 02:08:41,080 --> 02:08:44,120 Speaker 2: neither of us felt before. We were both married Unhappily. 2838 02:08:44,240 --> 02:08:46,240 Speaker 2: His wife had a bunch of medical problems and was 2839 02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,280 Speaker 2: really good at spending money and never leaving school. Yeah, 2840 02:08:49,360 --> 02:08:51,760 Speaker 2: she's trying to get an education and is spending all 2841 02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:57,600 Speaker 2: this money on her hospital bills. Go fucking asshole, Jesus. 2842 02:08:57,640 --> 02:09:00,440 Speaker 2: My husband had turned into an angry person, built up 2843 02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:02,880 Speaker 2: a pile of debt, and was not putting anything into 2844 02:09:02,880 --> 02:09:06,080 Speaker 2: the relationship. It started out platonic, but things got extremely 2845 02:09:06,120 --> 02:09:09,960 Speaker 2: stressful and our sexual tension was started building up. Oh God, 2846 02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:13,040 Speaker 2: the lack of sleep, stress, and my lower tolerance for 2847 02:09:13,120 --> 02:09:16,680 Speaker 2: cannabis left me questioning everything about my life. We both 2848 02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:19,560 Speaker 2: felt like the other person was an extension of ourselves. 2849 02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:23,600 Speaker 2: We were kindred spirits. Slowly, Clint started making moves and 2850 02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:26,920 Speaker 2: suddenly dinners were turning into dates and we were hanging 2851 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:30,680 Speaker 2: out in each other's hotel rooms. We crossed many, many lines, 2852 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,800 Speaker 2: but right as we crossed the final line, my brain 2853 02:09:34,040 --> 02:09:36,160 Speaker 2: kicked back in and we decided to take care of 2854 02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:38,720 Speaker 2: our lives before going further. So I guess it was 2855 02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:42,320 Speaker 2: like kisses, blow jobs, no sex. But by the time 2856 02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:45,640 Speaker 2: you're there, you're like, she's already John, don't you know 2857 02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:50,040 Speaker 2: it's not cheating if your genitals aren't touching? Wow? How 2858 02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:53,120 Speaker 2: could I have missed that? I'm kidding, of course, or 2859 02:09:53,360 --> 02:09:55,520 Speaker 2: is he? Over the last few days of the event, 2860 02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:58,160 Speaker 2: Clint and I continued to be close. We made plans 2861 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:01,080 Speaker 2: to leave our spouses, sell our house, in travel together. 2862 02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:03,520 Speaker 2: We created a bucket list of places to go, things 2863 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,080 Speaker 2: to do and see together. We even talked about eventually 2864 02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:08,360 Speaker 2: building a little cabin. Clint had planned on getting a 2865 02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:11,000 Speaker 2: tattoo dedicated to me when he returned home. 2866 02:10:11,080 --> 02:10:11,920 Speaker 3: It would be sweet. 2867 02:10:11,960 --> 02:10:15,840 Speaker 2: Talking about getting a tattoo literally means nothing, Hey, babe, 2868 02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:17,880 Speaker 2: by John, I'm going to get a tattoo of your 2869 02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:21,080 Speaker 2: face and my ball sack. WHOA, that means nothing until 2870 02:10:21,120 --> 02:10:23,480 Speaker 2: I get the ballsack tattoo. At the end of the event, 2871 02:10:23,520 --> 02:10:25,720 Speaker 2: we went our separate ways and kept in touch virtually. 2872 02:10:25,840 --> 02:10:29,440 Speaker 2: Lots of sexting and unprofessionalism all around. We had agreed 2873 02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:31,520 Speaker 2: we wouldn't tell our partners about the affair, as they 2874 02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:34,360 Speaker 2: each have mental health issues, but we planned to divorce 2875 02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:37,000 Speaker 2: and move on with our lives. After a few days 2876 02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:39,920 Speaker 2: at home, I talked with my husband and asked for 2877 02:10:39,960 --> 02:10:42,400 Speaker 2: a divorce. I told him I wanted to move away 2878 02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:45,240 Speaker 2: and start my life over. Clint talked to his wife, 2879 02:10:45,320 --> 02:10:48,360 Speaker 2: but things were messire. She was volatile and her family 2880 02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:51,240 Speaker 2: made it difficult for Clint to outright leave her. Eventually, 2881 02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:54,320 Speaker 2: I noticed Clint was becoming distant, still sexual, but not 2882 02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:57,600 Speaker 2: emotionally available. He sent me pictures of his new tattoos, 2883 02:10:57,680 --> 02:10:59,960 Speaker 2: which were nothing like what he said he was planning. 2884 02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:02,760 Speaker 2: Alarm bells are going off in my head, but I 2885 02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:06,520 Speaker 2: kept plodding along, planning mine. In our escape, Clinton went 2886 02:11:06,560 --> 02:11:09,520 Speaker 2: off to a series of anniversary related dates with his wife, 2887 02:11:09,600 --> 02:11:13,120 Speaker 2: which is never what you want from your side piece. Yeah, 2888 02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:15,720 Speaker 2: that sounds like commitments and we hate that, and he 2889 02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,240 Speaker 2: kept leaving me on red. I asked him what was 2890 02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:21,240 Speaker 2: going on a number of times, and finally, after weeks 2891 02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:24,240 Speaker 2: of mixed signals, Clint told me he was having doubts. 2892 02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:26,560 Speaker 2: We video chatted during work, and he told me he 2893 02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:29,240 Speaker 2: owed it to his wife to try and make things worse. 2894 02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:31,960 Speaker 2: To be fair, Op described her husband as like not 2895 02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,800 Speaker 2: putting anything in the relationship and being angry. The Clint 2896 02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:39,640 Speaker 2: described his wife as being like sick and learning. 2897 02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Literally like I feel like OPI tried to spin it 2898 02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:46,200 Speaker 1: the worst way she could, Like she's always just spending 2899 02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:47,480 Speaker 1: all his money and like. 2900 02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:48,560 Speaker 3: On her medical bills. 2901 02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,560 Speaker 2: She has all these medical needs and it's like, bro, 2902 02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:55,080 Speaker 2: he's probably paying for her medical ailments and she's just 2903 02:11:55,200 --> 02:11:58,280 Speaker 2: going to school. Yeah, she's like trying to provide what 2904 02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,520 Speaker 2: Now I'm left up trying to pick up the pieces 2905 02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:03,800 Speaker 2: of my life. Most of my friends are my coworkers, 2906 02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:05,760 Speaker 2: so I have no one to talk about my heartbreak. 2907 02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't have the money to fix my problems at 2908 02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:10,320 Speaker 2: home or to leave and live alone in another country. 2909 02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:12,440 Speaker 2: There's no going back with my husband, as I know 2910 02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:14,720 Speaker 2: it would be wrong, and I'm no longer interested in 2911 02:12:14,760 --> 02:12:17,080 Speaker 2: carrying the relationship. I'll see Clint again in a few 2912 02:12:17,080 --> 02:12:19,800 Speaker 2: weeks at another event where will likely be left alone 2913 02:12:19,880 --> 02:12:22,240 Speaker 2: for hours at a time, But he plans to stay 2914 02:12:22,240 --> 02:12:25,360 Speaker 2: faithful to his wife. And we never even got to 2915 02:12:25,440 --> 02:12:28,480 Speaker 2: have the mind blowing sex. We talked about TLDR. I 2916 02:12:28,480 --> 02:12:30,760 Speaker 2: fooled around with a coworker while traveling for work, got 2917 02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,200 Speaker 2: love bombed, made plans to move to another country together, 2918 02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:35,280 Speaker 2: told my husband I wanted a divorce and got left 2919 02:12:35,360 --> 02:12:39,880 Speaker 2: with nothing but bad karma. And that is why you 2920 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:43,320 Speaker 2: don't cheat on your wife. Yeah, yeah, husband, you can't 2921 02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:43,720 Speaker 2: do it. 2922 02:12:44,320 --> 02:12:47,600 Speaker 3: She also was going to leave her husband anyways. 2923 02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:49,640 Speaker 2: It sounds like she wasn't happy in the marriage, like 2924 02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:52,000 Speaker 2: he wasn't putting anything into the marriage, and so she 2925 02:12:52,320 --> 02:12:54,240 Speaker 2: decided to put out outside of the marriage. 2926 02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:58,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounded like the consolation prize is that she 2927 02:12:58,280 --> 02:12:59,120 Speaker 1: did get out. 2928 02:12:58,960 --> 02:13:05,080 Speaker 2: Of this unhappy are consolation prize? Divorce? Divorce the divorce 2929 02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,360 Speaker 2: chance actually works this, Hey, the divorce chance sometimes are 2930 02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:10,560 Speaker 2: the best thing. That's truely the only present you need. 2931 02:13:10,920 --> 02:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Love bombing What does that mean to you? Yeah? 2932 02:13:14,000 --> 02:13:16,680 Speaker 3: Can you throw it in the comments, because I think I. 2933 02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:21,400 Speaker 2: May be a love bomber, Oh oh, dropping big loads. 2934 02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:24,920 Speaker 2: I might draw big loads of love on people. 2935 02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:26,720 Speaker 1: You know what I think, And I'll be very curious 2936 02:13:26,760 --> 02:13:30,720 Speaker 1: to hear everyone's opinion. But like it's when it's used 2937 02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:32,520 Speaker 1: more nefariously. 2938 02:13:32,800 --> 02:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Maybe like this. 2939 02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Guy he was like, oh, all hot and heavy, Oh 2940 02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:38,080 Speaker 1: let's do all these things, let's leave our partners. 2941 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:40,920 Speaker 2: And then he's like, nah, they change my mind. You 2942 02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:43,520 Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like basically the love without 2943 02:13:43,560 --> 02:13:45,400 Speaker 2: the follow up. Yeah, your answers to the comments. I 2944 02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:46,360 Speaker 2: want to hear what you guys think. 2945 02:13:46,240 --> 02:13:48,320 Speaker 1: We shall see. But you know what else I want 2946 02:13:48,360 --> 02:13:51,920 Speaker 1: to do? Tell me this story. Yes, I'm better at 2947 02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:53,920 Speaker 1: being a stay at home mom than my wife. I'm 2948 02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:55,880 Speaker 1: a man, I know what I'm talking about. 2949 02:13:56,000 --> 02:13:56,840 Speaker 2: Am I the a hole? 2950 02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:57,120 Speaker 5: Hey? 2951 02:13:57,240 --> 02:14:00,080 Speaker 2: We don't need to go into these gender roles. Manh 2952 02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:04,880 Speaker 2: thirty male, have a wife thirty fucking congratulations, big dog. 2953 02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:09,120 Speaker 2: Good for you, Jesus. 2954 02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:11,600 Speaker 3: And we have a daughter a seven female. 2955 02:14:11,640 --> 02:14:13,600 Speaker 1: I work in finance and my wife is a stay 2956 02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:16,200 Speaker 1: at home mom, as I earn a sufficient amount for the. 2957 02:14:16,120 --> 02:14:16,560 Speaker 3: Both of us. 2958 02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Right, you don't need flex on us, dude. 2959 02:14:18,040 --> 02:14:19,760 Speaker 1: My wife is a great stay at home mom and 2960 02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:23,720 Speaker 1: takes great care of our house. My way, bro, No 2961 02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:25,920 Speaker 1: one give this man a red bull ever again for 2962 02:14:25,960 --> 02:14:27,200 Speaker 1: the rest of his fucking life. 2963 02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Did John start reading this story? God damn it. 2964 02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:33,000 Speaker 2: You fucking put me out of the slow Put a 2965 02:14:33,040 --> 02:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Colt forty five right in my mouth and just end me. 2966 02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:38,040 Speaker 2: My wife is a great stay at home mom. 2967 02:14:38,080 --> 02:14:39,440 Speaker 3: It takes great care of the house. 2968 02:14:39,920 --> 02:14:42,040 Speaker 1: I was lucky to buy a home as I earn 2969 02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:44,680 Speaker 1: well in a medium cost of living city. I love 2970 02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:46,880 Speaker 1: my wife, but she finds it humorous to say that 2971 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm incapable of doing household tasks. We had agreed that 2972 02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:52,760 Speaker 1: she would do them when we decided that she would 2973 02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:55,520 Speaker 1: stay at home. But I do stuff occasionally when we're 2974 02:14:55,560 --> 02:14:56,880 Speaker 1: both home if she asked me to. 2975 02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:59,880 Speaker 2: But then if I say, loads a dishwasher for her, 2976 02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:02,400 Speaker 2: she will claim that I did it wrong just because 2977 02:15:02,440 --> 02:15:03,840 Speaker 2: I do it different than she does. 2978 02:15:04,000 --> 02:15:04,839 Speaker 3: It still cleans. 2979 02:15:04,880 --> 02:15:07,760 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's like I load the diarchwasher. I just 2980 02:15:07,880 --> 02:15:09,280 Speaker 2: put all the plates flat on. 2981 02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:11,000 Speaker 5: You know. 2982 02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:12,960 Speaker 3: I like to do one dish at a time. It's 2983 02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,040 Speaker 3: my patented method. 2984 02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:16,640 Speaker 2: The other day we were eating and she told me 2985 02:15:16,680 --> 02:15:19,200 Speaker 2: about her day and how she went grocery shopping and 2986 02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:20,320 Speaker 2: optimized the cost. 2987 02:15:20,640 --> 02:15:23,000 Speaker 3: Already, I don't care. 2988 02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:27,480 Speaker 2: There's no other way. We're going to finish the story 2989 02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:31,440 Speaker 2: by buying specific items at specific stores. She made an 2990 02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:34,240 Speaker 2: off handed remark that I would never be able to 2991 02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:36,960 Speaker 2: do her job and set it in a what would 2992 02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:37,520 Speaker 2: you ever do? 2993 02:15:37,600 --> 02:15:40,400 Speaker 1: Without me kind of way. I replied back, saying that 2994 02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:41,680 Speaker 1: of course I could do it. 2995 02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:45,400 Speaker 2: I handle complex decisions and calculations at my work as 2996 02:15:45,520 --> 02:15:48,800 Speaker 2: I work in finance, and I have a master's degree. 2997 02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:51,240 Speaker 2: For you, do you hear yourself right now? 2998 02:15:51,320 --> 02:15:56,280 Speaker 1: What I do involves more intellect than household operations. 2999 02:15:56,640 --> 02:15:57,640 Speaker 3: Even though I. 3000 02:15:57,560 --> 02:16:01,400 Speaker 2: Acknowledged and appreciate what she does, I would be capable 3001 02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:03,800 Speaker 2: if the roles were reversed. I feel like she was 3002 02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:07,520 Speaker 2: literally making the most like innocuous and cute jokes, just 3003 02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:14,080 Speaker 2: like you. More into that a genius, I got do 3004 02:16:14,320 --> 02:16:16,000 Speaker 2: this wash God. 3005 02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:18,240 Speaker 1: She got angry and seemed to think that I was 3006 02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:20,160 Speaker 1: calling her stupid when I wasn't. 3007 02:16:20,440 --> 02:16:23,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you said everything, but and then she started crying. 3008 02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:25,600 Speaker 2: And now I feel like an a hole? You are 3009 02:16:25,800 --> 02:16:28,240 Speaker 2: you are a massive or an a hole. She said 3010 02:16:28,240 --> 02:16:31,000 Speaker 2: that she was a very good student and had she graduated, 3011 02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,320 Speaker 2: she would be in my position as well. My wife 3012 02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:36,120 Speaker 2: and I met in college, but she was an international 3013 02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:39,520 Speaker 2: student studying physics and computer science, and she had issues 3014 02:16:39,520 --> 02:16:41,720 Speaker 2: with her loan from her home country and could not 3015 02:16:41,800 --> 02:16:45,160 Speaker 2: afford to complete it. That is tragic. So she's super 3016 02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:48,440 Speaker 2: smart too and is stuck just dishwashing. 3017 02:16:48,080 --> 02:16:50,600 Speaker 3: And we got married so she could stay. 3018 02:16:50,959 --> 02:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Initially, she wanted to complete it later after finding the funds, 3019 02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:56,959 Speaker 1: but she agreed to be a stay at home mom 3020 02:16:57,080 --> 02:16:59,360 Speaker 1: when I got a good job, and I appreciate that 3021 02:16:59,440 --> 02:17:01,120 Speaker 1: a lot, as we were both able to have a 3022 02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:03,760 Speaker 1: kid early on and did all this even while I 3023 02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:07,560 Speaker 1: was both completing my master's and working full time. 3024 02:17:08,480 --> 02:17:08,960 Speaker 3: Is that done? 3025 02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:12,240 Speaker 2: It's over finally, John, Jesus. It took me so long, 3026 02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:13,360 Speaker 2: it was I do so long. 3027 02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's an asshole. 3028 02:17:14,879 --> 02:17:17,120 Speaker 2: He took it like a simple like you said an 3029 02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,640 Speaker 2: innocuous comment and like that was cute, and you just 3030 02:17:19,680 --> 02:17:21,160 Speaker 2: made it about him being smart. Yeah. 3031 02:17:21,240 --> 02:17:24,120 Speaker 1: It's almost like he's like looking for ways to just 3032 02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:25,199 Speaker 1: be like put her down. 3033 02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was studying CS and physics and now 3034 02:17:28,640 --> 02:17:30,520 Speaker 2: she's taking care of your kid, Like, have some respect. 3035 02:17:30,920 --> 02:17:33,520 Speaker 2: I worked at a wedding called the bride fat and 3036 02:17:33,560 --> 02:17:36,200 Speaker 2: then roasted the entire family. Now they don't want to 3037 02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:39,480 Speaker 2: pay me, and I'm furious. Am I the asshole? You know? 3038 02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:42,200 Speaker 1: I think everyone expects like, hey, let me come with 3039 02:17:42,280 --> 02:17:45,440 Speaker 1: good service, let me, you know, do my absolute best. 3040 02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:48,760 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. You need a unique differentiator Yeah, 3041 02:17:48,879 --> 02:17:51,640 Speaker 2: do you want your wedding to be like just boring 3042 02:17:51,879 --> 02:17:53,240 Speaker 2: and like go a plan or do you want to 3043 02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:54,000 Speaker 2: be memorable? 3044 02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:56,360 Speaker 3: Come on? Yeah, exciting difference. 3045 02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of everyone confessing and like toasting to how 3046 02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:02,800 Speaker 2: much they love you, I think higher wedding roasters say 3047 02:18:02,920 --> 02:18:05,039 Speaker 2: the all right, actually legitimate idea. 3048 02:18:05,200 --> 02:18:06,119 Speaker 3: Yes, that is a legiti. 3049 02:18:06,160 --> 02:18:09,160 Speaker 2: I had a wedding, hire everyone to roast you and 3050 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,440 Speaker 2: say the worst parts about you, and if you still 3051 02:18:11,480 --> 02:18:13,520 Speaker 2: want to get married after all the skeletons are out 3052 02:18:13,560 --> 02:18:15,400 Speaker 2: of the closet, then it's legit. 3053 02:18:15,560 --> 02:18:18,800 Speaker 1: This went from a joke to something that actually, I 3054 02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:21,519 Speaker 1: would be so good. I think that would be amazing. 3055 02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:24,320 Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of the marriages and a divorce, let's 3056 02:18:24,320 --> 02:18:26,320 Speaker 2: you know, let's bump those numbers down. 3057 02:18:26,520 --> 02:18:29,240 Speaker 3: Honestly, I think it would be like the experience. 3058 02:18:29,280 --> 02:18:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it would be great. 3059 02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone feeds the dirt to like the professional like 3060 02:18:32,879 --> 02:18:33,760 Speaker 1: roasting comedians. 3061 02:18:33,879 --> 02:18:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we could do that. We could do that. 3062 02:18:36,879 --> 02:18:39,520 Speaker 2: We'll roast your wedding. Dude, if we roasted weddings, that 3063 02:18:39,520 --> 02:18:42,840 Speaker 2: would be so funny. Podcast went outside web that We'll say, 3064 02:18:43,200 --> 02:18:45,880 Speaker 2: just like the whole family finding out about like thirty 3065 02:18:45,879 --> 02:18:49,760 Speaker 2: dirty threesomes. Yeah, I love it alright. So this happened 3066 02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:52,879 Speaker 2: six years ago when I was a hot shot wedding videographer. 3067 02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:57,360 Speaker 2: I retired afterwards. I guess we'll see why. My selling 3068 02:18:57,400 --> 02:18:59,720 Speaker 2: point was simple, I will shoot your wedding and give 3069 02:18:59,720 --> 02:19:03,840 Speaker 2: you a highlight reel the very next day, No questions asked. 3070 02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:06,760 Speaker 2: People loved it. They wanted me. They couldn't wait. Oh, God, 3071 02:19:06,959 --> 02:19:10,080 Speaker 2: couldn't wait. They're busted out the seams to get oh, 3072 02:19:10,320 --> 02:19:14,320 Speaker 2: to get them highlights. My career's last wedding was no different. 3073 02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:16,680 Speaker 2: At the beginning. I arrived at the scene, asked who 3074 02:19:16,680 --> 02:19:18,520 Speaker 2: the important people were, and shot some. 3075 02:19:18,640 --> 02:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Epic footage and went home. 3076 02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:23,240 Speaker 2: Nice. But I was hiding a harmless secret. You see, 3077 02:19:23,240 --> 02:19:26,480 Speaker 2: my work ethic of twenty hours straight came with a caveat. 3078 02:19:26,560 --> 02:19:29,680 Speaker 2: I got bored too often. But that day I found 3079 02:19:29,680 --> 02:19:33,160 Speaker 2: a solution. Okay, if you have ever edited videos before, 3080 02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:35,760 Speaker 2: you know the most boring part of it is watching, 3081 02:19:35,959 --> 02:19:40,240 Speaker 2: organizing and naming hundreds of clips. So just for self amusement, 3082 02:19:40,440 --> 02:19:43,480 Speaker 2: I did something. Instead of naming clips how you usually 3083 02:19:43,560 --> 02:19:46,720 Speaker 2: named them, I started naming them funnily, you know, like 3084 02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:49,320 Speaker 2: mind you these are raw footages that will never be 3085 02:19:49,360 --> 02:19:52,000 Speaker 2: seen by anyone else other than me. The final video 3086 02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:54,879 Speaker 2: was aptly named and sent to the bride, my client. 3087 02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:58,560 Speaker 2: The very next day, she called me and she loved it. 3088 02:19:58,800 --> 02:20:01,160 Speaker 2: She thanked me for my service and requested me if 3089 02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:03,879 Speaker 2: I could also send her all the raw clips I 3090 02:20:03,959 --> 02:20:06,680 Speaker 2: have taken. There are all clips with his funny names. 3091 02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:07,320 Speaker 4: Hmmmm. 3092 02:20:08,280 --> 02:20:08,600 Speaker 3: You see. 3093 02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,039 Speaker 2: It was the weekend and her entire family was going 3094 02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:13,480 Speaker 2: to visit her, where they planned to watch all the 3095 02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:17,160 Speaker 2: videos and start her new life with a bang. Although 3096 02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:19,840 Speaker 2: in ninety nine percent of other cases, I would have 3097 02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:23,200 Speaker 2: been smart enough to send her the original clips, this 3098 02:20:23,320 --> 02:20:27,480 Speaker 2: time around, I had an important statistics exam the next day. 3099 02:20:27,640 --> 02:20:30,360 Speaker 2: In my brain, who was fried? Oh God, I know 3100 02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:32,160 Speaker 2: where's this coming. But I see you in the comments 3101 02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:34,920 Speaker 2: if you know where this is headed. I unknowingly copied 3102 02:20:34,959 --> 02:20:38,200 Speaker 2: my funny name clips and gave those to her. It 3103 02:20:38,280 --> 02:20:40,920 Speaker 2: was the next day at my university, about to enter 3104 02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:43,960 Speaker 2: the classroom, ready to give my statistic exam, and then 3105 02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:47,400 Speaker 2: my phone rings. The bride is calling. I rejoice. Surely 3106 02:20:47,440 --> 02:20:50,000 Speaker 2: she's calling to ask for my bank details. I'll be 3107 02:20:50,040 --> 02:20:54,280 Speaker 2: a little richer today. Hello, I say, The bride responds, 3108 02:20:54,560 --> 02:20:55,119 Speaker 2: you are. 3109 02:20:55,080 --> 02:21:00,480 Speaker 4: The most horrible person I've ever seen me, only me, 3110 02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:04,160 Speaker 4: in front of my entire family, and I will file 3111 02:21:04,320 --> 02:21:06,480 Speaker 4: a police report against you right now. 3112 02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:09,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you won't get away with this. Cuts 3113 02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:12,200 Speaker 2: the call for file names. For file names, I want 3114 02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,200 Speaker 2: to know what they are now. I was confused. I 3115 02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:16,520 Speaker 2: really didn't know why she act that way. Was she 3116 02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:18,960 Speaker 2: trying to rip me off? Throwing up this act? I 3117 02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:21,119 Speaker 2: was not going to let her get away with this, 3118 02:21:21,360 --> 02:21:23,760 Speaker 2: so I called my classmate. The girl who hooked me 3119 02:21:23,840 --> 02:21:26,560 Speaker 2: up with the client. The bride was her aunt. Oh no, 3120 02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:29,959 Speaker 2: surely my classmate would know what's happening. Hey, miss blank 3121 02:21:29,959 --> 02:21:31,879 Speaker 2: called me, and she says, weird stuff. Do you know 3122 02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:35,040 Speaker 2: what's happening? Are you kidding me? She says, what the 3123 02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:38,880 Speaker 2: hell were those names? Are you out of your goddamn 3124 02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,560 Speaker 2: and is this a prank? She's swearing at me so much? 3125 02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:46,040 Speaker 2: You are unreal? Why did you do that? He said? 3126 02:21:46,320 --> 02:21:51,800 Speaker 3: What names? Wait? Video clip names? Don't don't. Don't incriminate yourself. 3127 02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:54,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're choking at this point, but 3128 02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:56,600 Speaker 2: I'm in a lot of trouble because of you. You're 3129 02:21:56,720 --> 02:22:01,800 Speaker 2: a really weird man. Call cuts names the names? No way, 3130 02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:05,200 Speaker 2: I sent them the funny names. My heart sank. My 3131 02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:07,760 Speaker 2: exam was in five minutes. I couldn't take it. I 3132 02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:10,280 Speaker 2: collected myself, gave the exam, I barely passed it, and 3133 02:22:10,360 --> 02:22:12,320 Speaker 2: went home to see what I had done. At this point, 3134 02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:14,200 Speaker 2: even I don't know how bad it is. I don't 3135 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:16,080 Speaker 2: remember any of the funny names. I did those in 3136 02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:18,279 Speaker 2: the moment, laugh a little, and move on. I opened 3137 02:22:18,280 --> 02:22:21,199 Speaker 2: my computer and went into the folder. My hands are shaking, 3138 02:22:21,280 --> 02:22:24,640 Speaker 2: my heart is pounding. These were some of the names. Oh, finally, 3139 02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:29,480 Speaker 2: ugly bride, trying to pose, annoying, loud bride friends old 3140 02:22:29,560 --> 02:22:34,920 Speaker 2: grandma's last wedding, her brother, I and girls, fat ass 3141 02:22:35,000 --> 02:22:41,879 Speaker 2: groom standing, dumb as fuck kids running, short, bald dad eating. Oh. 3142 02:22:42,000 --> 02:22:45,359 Speaker 2: These were the first couple out of sixty final clips. 3143 02:22:45,400 --> 02:22:45,640 Speaker 4: No. 3144 02:22:46,120 --> 02:22:49,520 Speaker 2: I deleted the whole folder without proceeding further. I couldn't 3145 02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:51,440 Speaker 2: take it. Before you tell me how horrible I am. 3146 02:22:51,480 --> 02:22:53,879 Speaker 2: To my defense, I was a dumb, unfunny kid. To 3147 02:22:53,920 --> 02:22:56,279 Speaker 2: come up with creative insults, you have to be smart. 3148 02:22:56,400 --> 02:22:59,200 Speaker 2: I wasn't, so I relied on shock humor enough to 3149 02:22:59,240 --> 02:23:01,560 Speaker 2: get me through the boring phase of naming. I didn't 3150 02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:03,400 Speaker 2: think much of it. It wasn't meant to be seen 3151 02:23:03,440 --> 02:23:05,879 Speaker 2: by anyone. I called my friend the other day, calmed 3152 02:23:05,879 --> 02:23:08,280 Speaker 2: her down, apologized for it, and once she was cool, 3153 02:23:08,400 --> 02:23:10,720 Speaker 2: she told me. The following we were all gathered at 3154 02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:13,760 Speaker 2: the bride's house. It was at least a thirty person gathering. 3155 02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:15,920 Speaker 2: We were supposed to sit in the hall and watch 3156 02:23:15,959 --> 02:23:18,760 Speaker 2: all the clips one by one. Oh no. The first 3157 02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:21,920 Speaker 2: clip was the highlights you made, which everyone enjoyed. Then 3158 02:23:22,080 --> 02:23:24,280 Speaker 2: she plugged in the flash drive you gave her, and 3159 02:23:24,360 --> 02:23:27,640 Speaker 2: to everyone's horror, they saw all the funny names in 3160 02:23:27,640 --> 02:23:30,440 Speaker 2: front of everyone. The bride tried to close the folder immediately, 3161 02:23:30,480 --> 02:23:34,720 Speaker 2: but her dad was furious and proceeded angrily reading everything 3162 02:23:34,840 --> 02:23:38,640 Speaker 2: out until the bride started crying and left the room. 3163 02:23:39,040 --> 02:23:43,520 Speaker 2: It was something the groom stayed still and said nothing damn. 3164 02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:47,040 Speaker 2: But also, why would the dad read everything? Bro, I 3165 02:23:47,080 --> 02:23:50,720 Speaker 2: can't believe someone would say the fat ugly bride had 3166 02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:53,760 Speaker 2: the worst wedding or this. I can't believe this, this 3167 02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:58,360 Speaker 2: person would say fat ass ugly, dumb bald groom who. 3168 02:23:58,280 --> 02:24:00,000 Speaker 3: Was not good enough for my daughter. 3169 02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:03,120 Speaker 1: I think it's a classic married It's a classic dad 3170 02:24:03,200 --> 02:24:05,440 Speaker 1: move where it's like it escalates where it's like, hey, 3171 02:24:05,560 --> 02:24:07,840 Speaker 1: why don't ask for directions? No, I know what I'm doing, 3172 02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:10,480 Speaker 1: and then he ends up like just going busting into 3173 02:24:10,520 --> 02:24:11,320 Speaker 1: a gas station. 3174 02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:13,760 Speaker 2: Like fuck you, I don't care what you're talking about. 3175 02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:15,840 Speaker 2: I don't need this. I'm gonna go to the next 3176 02:24:15,879 --> 02:24:18,280 Speaker 2: one and do the same thing. Yeah, it's that just 3177 02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:20,959 Speaker 2: escalating to the point where it's making it worse. Giving 3178 02:24:20,959 --> 02:24:23,680 Speaker 2: that right, zop, that's horrible. I didn't mean it. It 3179 02:24:23,720 --> 02:24:25,840 Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to be in front of anyone else. I'm 3180 02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:28,640 Speaker 2: so sorry. She says, that's okay. I mean, I get it. 3181 02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:30,720 Speaker 2: Everything is calm now. But I don't think you'll get 3182 02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:33,080 Speaker 2: your money. I mean, you can try. But the brides 3183 02:24:33,160 --> 02:24:35,520 Speaker 2: really pissed. But the grandma laughed at her clip name. 3184 02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:38,039 Speaker 2: Actually I never contacted the bride again. I heard she 3185 02:24:38,120 --> 02:24:40,360 Speaker 2: was teaching in a university next to mine. I never 3186 02:24:40,400 --> 02:24:42,440 Speaker 2: went to that place. Whenever I think of this, I 3187 02:24:42,520 --> 02:24:45,119 Speaker 2: cringe really hard, and I feel like sinking and laughing 3188 02:24:45,160 --> 02:24:48,240 Speaker 2: at the same time. I'm still sometimes talking to my classmate. 3189 02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:50,920 Speaker 2: She recently got married, and suffice to say, she didn't 3190 02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:52,640 Speaker 2: ask me to shoot the wedding. 3191 02:24:53,360 --> 02:24:57,840 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, I'm very curious to hear what you guys think, 3192 02:24:57,920 --> 02:25:00,720 Speaker 1: because I think this one actually might be a split 3193 02:25:00,720 --> 02:25:04,080 Speaker 1: decision on if OP is actually the a hole or not? 3194 02:25:04,400 --> 02:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Right. What are your thoughts? Okay, John, Yeah, John, If 3195 02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm calling someone fat and ugly behind their back, I'm 3196 02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:16,240 Speaker 2: an asshole. I agree, I agree, I agree, Yeah, oh, 3197 02:25:16,320 --> 02:25:19,200 Speaker 2: piece for sure the asshole. But I'm I I wonder 3198 02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:23,000 Speaker 2: if I wonder what the mix will be, what's the issue. 3199 02:25:23,040 --> 02:25:25,920 Speaker 3: I feel like there's gonna be at least one person who's. 3200 02:25:25,680 --> 02:25:28,240 Speaker 2: Like, oh, like, no, piece for sure the apple I 3201 02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:30,840 Speaker 2: a thousand percent. I don't know. It sounds like you're 3202 02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:33,080 Speaker 2: defending him. No, no, no, I'm not defending put John's 3203 02:25:33,080 --> 02:25:36,039 Speaker 2: an asshole. In the comments, Yeah, think John's thirty John's 3204 02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:37,240 Speaker 2: that's a new chance. 3205 02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think Opia as one hundred percent 3206 02:25:39,600 --> 02:25:43,080 Speaker 1: the ahole because it's like, dude, you are Yeah, they're 3207 02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:46,440 Speaker 1: not supposed to see it, but like you're naming things 3208 02:25:46,760 --> 02:25:50,800 Speaker 1: that could easily even if they didn't request it or 3209 02:25:50,840 --> 02:25:53,080 Speaker 1: anything like that could easily make their way to them. 3210 02:25:53,080 --> 02:25:55,800 Speaker 2: Also, it's the it's their special day like, but it's 3211 02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:58,160 Speaker 2: also not even like even if he knew that there 3212 02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:02,160 Speaker 2: was no way it would ever reach them. It's just 3213 02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:03,080 Speaker 2: it's bad form. 3214 02:26:03,160 --> 02:26:04,199 Speaker 3: He still shouldn't have done. 3215 02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:07,400 Speaker 2: It right, bad form to insult anyone behind their back 3216 02:26:07,440 --> 02:26:10,160 Speaker 2: and hold them to their face. There we go. Yeah, 3217 02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:12,200 Speaker 2: I actually hot take. I think it's more of an 3218 02:26:12,200 --> 02:26:15,640 Speaker 2: alfold move to insult someone behind their back than insult them. 3219 02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:17,920 Speaker 2: But no, I think that's I think that's I think 3220 02:26:17,959 --> 02:26:19,199 Speaker 2: that's true. Yeah. 3221 02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:21,440 Speaker 1: Like the other day, Nathan, who runs the ones and 3222 02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:24,120 Speaker 1: twos on her YouTube's he said that my hair in 3223 02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:25,440 Speaker 1: a bun made me look like a douche. 3224 02:26:25,560 --> 02:26:26,560 Speaker 3: He said that to my. 3225 02:26:26,600 --> 02:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Face, and everyone else was just thinking it exactly exactly. 3226 02:26:31,480 --> 02:26:34,000 Speaker 1: Now I know the truth. I have no choice because 3227 02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:36,400 Speaker 1: my hair like a couch, thank you, he said. He 3228 02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:39,480 Speaker 1: then said, on the bright side, I looked like a successful. 3229 02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:41,680 Speaker 2: Douche, like a business douche. So business douche. 3230 02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:43,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I guess I'll take it. 3231 02:26:43,480 --> 02:26:45,120 Speaker 2: That's something. All right. Let's get to this next story. 3232 02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:48,640 Speaker 1: My best friend cheated on her fiance with my boyfriend. 3233 02:26:48,680 --> 02:26:51,039 Speaker 1: I just found out. Now she's getting married, and I 3234 02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:52,160 Speaker 1: want to ruin the wedding? 3235 02:26:52,200 --> 02:26:53,040 Speaker 3: Am I the a whole? 3236 02:26:53,120 --> 02:26:54,920 Speaker 2: If you're about to get married and you know there's cheating, 3237 02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:58,080 Speaker 2: I think probably tell someone, right, Maybe I feel like 3238 02:26:58,120 --> 02:27:01,760 Speaker 2: that's the right thing to do. Yeah, especially for friends. Yeah, 3239 02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:04,720 Speaker 2: like it could avoid, you know, a messy divorce. 3240 02:27:05,080 --> 02:27:06,960 Speaker 1: I feel like they have the right to know because like, hey, 3241 02:27:06,959 --> 02:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you two are in a committed partnership and then it's 3242 02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:10,400 Speaker 1: like someone. 3243 02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:11,520 Speaker 3: Cheats, where's the commitment. 3244 02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,760 Speaker 1: It sucks that you're like the innocent third party, but 3245 02:27:13,800 --> 02:27:15,760 Speaker 1: it's also like you kind of gotta tell them. 3246 02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I say, if you know there's cheatings 3247 02:27:18,640 --> 02:27:20,359 Speaker 2: when they ask, does anyone object? 3248 02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:23,360 Speaker 3: Say I object. Hear the pictures, Oh, it is your. 3249 02:27:23,240 --> 02:27:26,280 Speaker 2: Perfect time time, like it's hot boom. I like that 3250 02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:27,720 Speaker 2: nuclear wedding all right. 3251 02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:31,520 Speaker 1: I dated my ex boyfriend John with an H for 3252 02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:34,200 Speaker 1: four years and got serious enough where we started planning 3253 02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:36,800 Speaker 1: for our future weddings, kids, et cetera. I thought we 3254 02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:39,920 Speaker 1: were pretty happy, but last year he dumped me pretty suddenly. 3255 02:27:39,959 --> 02:27:41,760 Speaker 1: I tried to figure out what went wrong, but he 3256 02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:45,279 Speaker 1: said it was personal. It's not that it was not personal, 3257 02:27:45,360 --> 02:27:46,279 Speaker 1: it was personal. 3258 02:27:46,720 --> 02:27:51,360 Speaker 2: I am. Yeah. I think it probably means personal to him. Yeah, 3259 02:27:51,400 --> 02:27:53,480 Speaker 2: but it would be funny. It was like, yeah, I know, 3260 02:27:53,520 --> 02:27:54,720 Speaker 2: it's just like your personality. 3261 02:27:54,760 --> 02:27:55,560 Speaker 3: It's just business. 3262 02:27:55,800 --> 02:27:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you. 3263 02:27:58,360 --> 02:27:59,959 Speaker 3: And that I should respect his space. 3264 02:28:00,200 --> 02:28:03,120 Speaker 1: During this time, my best friend Stacy and her fiance 3265 02:28:03,360 --> 02:28:06,240 Speaker 1: Tom were my rocks, letting me crash at their place, 3266 02:28:06,280 --> 02:28:09,920 Speaker 1: and just being overwhelmingly supportive and loving. When Stacy asked 3267 02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:11,600 Speaker 1: me to be her maid of honor, I thought it 3268 02:28:11,640 --> 02:28:14,400 Speaker 1: was a no brainer and I happily took to the task. 3269 02:28:14,680 --> 02:28:17,879 Speaker 1: Fast forward to what happened this weekend. The morning of 3270 02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:20,760 Speaker 1: the wedding, Tom asked me to meet him for breakfast 3271 02:28:20,959 --> 02:28:24,000 Speaker 1: super early in the morning, before all the festivities. I 3272 02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:27,039 Speaker 1: thought it was weird, but assumed he maybe wanted me 3273 02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:30,800 Speaker 1: to pass something onto Stacy. What happened instead was that 3274 02:28:30,879 --> 02:28:34,160 Speaker 1: Tom let me know a few days prior that Stacy. 3275 02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:37,400 Speaker 3: Admitted to him that she had an affair with John. 3276 02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:41,720 Speaker 2: Wait what Wait? John is Opie's ex fiance. Yea, Stacy's 3277 02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:45,000 Speaker 2: getting married to a friend to Tom. To Tom, and 3278 02:28:45,080 --> 02:28:48,320 Speaker 2: Stacy had an affair with John, her bestie had an 3279 02:28:48,360 --> 02:28:51,320 Speaker 2: affair with her with her wife they were together while 3280 02:28:51,360 --> 02:28:54,760 Speaker 2: they were together. Yikes, dude, that's like a double blow up. 3281 02:28:54,800 --> 02:28:57,160 Speaker 2: And now she won a relationship and you're about to 3282 02:28:57,160 --> 02:28:58,480 Speaker 2: blow up your marriage. 3283 02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Right, and now she's literally about to be a part 3284 02:29:01,360 --> 02:29:04,760 Speaker 1: of the wedding and the bride cheeted on her boyfriend. 3285 02:29:04,879 --> 02:29:08,280 Speaker 2: This is this is this is a terrible situation that 3286 02:29:08,440 --> 02:29:11,560 Speaker 2: should be resolved quickly with divorce. 3287 02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:13,240 Speaker 3: You're gonna go out on a lemon and say this 3288 02:29:13,280 --> 02:29:14,000 Speaker 3: is not good. 3289 02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:19,040 Speaker 2: Divorced tants divorce devorce worse. And that was what led 3290 02:29:19,280 --> 02:29:20,400 Speaker 2: to my breakup. 3291 02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:23,240 Speaker 1: He said that Stacy wanted to come clean to start 3292 02:29:23,280 --> 02:29:25,920 Speaker 1: their marriage fresh, and that he was forgiving her to 3293 02:29:26,040 --> 02:29:28,720 Speaker 1: move forward. He had gone back and forth between telling 3294 02:29:28,760 --> 02:29:31,440 Speaker 1: me and finally decided to spill the beans. I guess 3295 02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:34,200 Speaker 1: he had expected me to forgive Stacy too, because the 3296 02:29:34,240 --> 02:29:37,600 Speaker 1: affair was so long ago. The opposite pretty much happened, 3297 02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:41,400 Speaker 1: and I walked out on the wedding. Damn, go big 3298 02:29:41,480 --> 02:29:42,000 Speaker 1: or go home. 3299 02:29:42,320 --> 02:29:44,320 Speaker 2: That's exactly what you should do. Yeah, one hundred percent. 3300 02:29:44,360 --> 02:29:46,560 Speaker 1: It ended up causing a huge mess because I was 3301 02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:49,840 Speaker 1: basically running the whole show. Stacy made me do everything, 3302 02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:52,600 Speaker 1: so she didn't even know what was happening at certain 3303 02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:53,840 Speaker 1: times or who to call. 3304 02:29:53,920 --> 02:29:54,840 Speaker 2: Oh yikes. 3305 02:29:55,160 --> 02:29:57,959 Speaker 1: Not only that, but everyone realized that the maid of 3306 02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,640 Speaker 1: honor wasn't there. 3307 02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:02,320 Speaker 2: Damn. The only thing Daysey can do right is your 3308 02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:07,800 Speaker 2: husband for real. God, I'll try ex fiance out. 3309 02:30:06,800 --> 02:30:10,160 Speaker 1: Thoughts and bios of the party on her wedding page, 3310 02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:12,520 Speaker 1: so it was like clear that the maid of honor 3311 02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:15,320 Speaker 1: wasn't there, and news of the affair eventually got out 3312 02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:16,800 Speaker 1: because her cousin knew. 3313 02:30:16,920 --> 02:30:17,160 Speaker 2: John. 3314 02:30:17,280 --> 02:30:20,480 Speaker 1: Stacy and Tom have both been slandering me online now, 3315 02:30:20,600 --> 02:30:23,160 Speaker 1: saying that I ruined there once in a lifetime moment. 3316 02:30:23,240 --> 02:30:25,480 Speaker 1: Some of their friends are on their side, saying that 3317 02:30:25,520 --> 02:30:28,120 Speaker 1: I should have handled the situation more privately and at 3318 02:30:28,200 --> 02:30:31,800 Speaker 1: least stuck out the wedding since it was so last minute. Nah, dude, No, 3319 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:33,200 Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. 3320 02:30:33,280 --> 02:30:36,039 Speaker 2: As soon as you sleep with my ex fiance, all 3321 02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:37,480 Speaker 2: bets are off done, We're over. 3322 02:30:37,680 --> 02:30:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no commitment to you exactly. 3323 02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:43,199 Speaker 1: I personally don't know what Tom expected, but either way, 3324 02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:46,160 Speaker 1: I've been getting bombarded with texts and I heard that 3325 02:30:46,240 --> 02:30:48,480 Speaker 1: Stacy has been so upset that she had to take 3326 02:30:48,520 --> 02:30:50,760 Speaker 1: time off work, which does make me feel like the 3327 02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:56,600 Speaker 1: a hole no, especially since I've just been ignoring her calls. Okay, Stacy, 3328 02:30:56,720 --> 02:31:01,600 Speaker 1: Fuck Stacy. I'm curious to hear any of your cheating stories. 3329 02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Having been cheated on, what was the fallout? How did 3330 02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:06,879 Speaker 1: you deal with it? In a scenario like this, But 3331 02:31:07,640 --> 02:31:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that OP owes them anything, especially because 3332 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's one thing to cheat on your fiance 3333 02:31:15,959 --> 02:31:18,800 Speaker 1: that ruins your marriage, right, so like, oh, peace, marriage 3334 02:31:18,840 --> 02:31:22,160 Speaker 1: was ruined. Then they tell her right before the wedding, 3335 02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:24,240 Speaker 1: so it's like, what do you expect? 3336 02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:25,119 Speaker 3: You were the one that. 3337 02:31:25,120 --> 02:31:28,720 Speaker 1: Flicked up Stacy and yeah and Tom to and Tom 3338 02:31:28,840 --> 02:31:30,160 Speaker 1: for not telling her sooner. 3339 02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:33,320 Speaker 2: Honestly, yeah, I feel it just bad for OP that 3340 02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,879 Speaker 2: like so much information was taken and or withheld from her. 3341 02:31:37,040 --> 02:31:40,119 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, So I don't think Op 3342 02:31:40,280 --> 02:31:41,880 Speaker 2: is the a hole at all, not at all. Yeah. 3343 02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:43,760 Speaker 2: You know who also is not the ahole? Oo? 3344 02:31:44,000 --> 02:31:44,080 Speaker 3: Me? 3345 02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Because I just bought Ashley a nice villa in a 3346 02:31:47,800 --> 02:31:50,600 Speaker 2: bood for a weekend get away. Yes, that's right, that 3347 02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:53,360 Speaker 2: the Australian girl yep, that I've been kind of seeing 3348 02:31:53,360 --> 02:31:55,840 Speaker 2: while here. Mm hmm. Dude, I got the bath, but 3349 02:31:56,280 --> 02:31:58,840 Speaker 2: I got the bubble bath with rose pedals, and it 3350 02:31:58,840 --> 02:32:01,920 Speaker 2: has a rose pedals that is, you know, they got 3351 02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:03,959 Speaker 2: here's fucking rose. 3352 02:32:04,640 --> 02:32:06,480 Speaker 3: Want to see this ship? Yeah, let's let's let's take 3353 02:32:06,480 --> 02:32:07,960 Speaker 3: a look these rose pedals. 3354 02:32:08,959 --> 02:32:11,760 Speaker 2: Literally, I'm going to be so sad when I leave here. 3355 02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:14,240 Speaker 2: I'm ready for the depression. 3356 02:32:13,959 --> 02:32:14,640 Speaker 3: Trying to come with you. 3357 02:32:15,680 --> 02:32:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that's going to be the series finale of 3358 02:32:19,360 --> 02:32:20,439 Speaker 2: Sam's Love Chronicles. 3359 02:32:20,440 --> 02:32:23,440 Speaker 3: Will we'll actually leave the island here. 3360 02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:26,640 Speaker 2: Look this, dude, Look what they have fucking heart on 3361 02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:27,720 Speaker 2: the bed. That's cute. 3362 02:32:27,760 --> 02:32:30,360 Speaker 1: Also, I love how you're doing this romantic get away. 3363 02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Also on my third anniversary. 3364 02:32:33,080 --> 02:32:35,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to celebrate your third anniverse, right, I know? Wow? 3365 02:32:35,680 --> 02:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Thank you You're you're You're so inclusive man, just like 3366 02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:39,920 Speaker 1: you want to celebrate celebrating. 3367 02:32:40,440 --> 02:32:43,320 Speaker 3: I so appreciate she'd time our orgasms. 3368 02:32:43,400 --> 02:32:47,959 Speaker 2: Wow, that's at the same time, I know that I 3369 02:32:48,000 --> 02:32:52,080 Speaker 2: know that's what what my girl wants, is me timing 3370 02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:54,360 Speaker 2: my orgasms with my podcast co host. 3371 02:32:54,640 --> 02:32:59,080 Speaker 1: She says, nope, she's right over there. Little does he 3372 02:32:59,200 --> 02:33:02,560 Speaker 1: know she is right behind him the whole time. 3373 02:33:04,040 --> 02:33:06,240 Speaker 3: Let's get to his next story. 3374 02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:10,400 Speaker 2: Suffer. My boyfriend is a short king and I just 3375 02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:12,240 Speaker 2: wore eight inch heals to the wedding. 3376 02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:14,440 Speaker 3: He's furious, So am I the asshole? 3377 02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:16,600 Speaker 1: You know, I really don't think that we should talk 3378 02:33:16,640 --> 02:33:18,480 Speaker 1: about Cody co like that, You know what I mean. 3379 02:33:18,640 --> 02:33:22,000 Speaker 2: He's a good guy, good guy, he needs some hgh. 3380 02:33:22,280 --> 02:33:24,520 Speaker 2: It's got to get human growth hormones pumped up. You 3381 02:33:24,560 --> 02:33:26,840 Speaker 2: know what I mean. He's having a baby, actually having 3382 02:33:26,879 --> 02:33:29,800 Speaker 2: a baby. He is he is? That's crazy. Yeah, dude, 3383 02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:32,640 Speaker 2: could you imagine? I can't wait for the daddy car. 3384 02:33:32,760 --> 02:33:33,600 Speaker 3: They're going to start a. 3385 02:33:33,560 --> 02:33:37,760 Speaker 1: Podcast where I have a head out of Bertha like her? 3386 02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:42,000 Speaker 1: What Kelsey's his circle time? It's the Baby's gonna be playtime, playtime. 3387 02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cody's trains actually becomes like a coach trade. 3388 02:33:45,480 --> 02:33:46,879 Speaker 3: And train hire us. 3389 02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:49,560 Speaker 2: All right, So I have a high heel story like 3390 02:33:49,680 --> 02:33:52,080 Speaker 2: today's story. Oh is this from? Oh this is from 3391 02:33:52,200 --> 02:33:56,000 Speaker 2: our sash Okayop shows. 3392 02:33:54,879 --> 02:33:56,640 Speaker 3: By Happy Kitty Meow meow. 3393 02:33:57,360 --> 02:33:59,720 Speaker 2: I love something to this story on our subredit our 3394 02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:02,160 Speaker 2: sash Okop show. So if you want your story submitted, 3395 02:34:02,200 --> 02:34:02,600 Speaker 2: go over there. 3396 02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:03,800 Speaker 3: Just had a thousand there by the way. 3397 02:34:03,840 --> 02:34:07,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go Okay. So as a teenager and young twenties, 3398 02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:10,160 Speaker 2: I would wear heels all the time. I'm pretty practiced 3399 02:34:10,160 --> 02:34:12,600 Speaker 2: at wearing them, walk well on them, and can run 3400 02:34:12,680 --> 02:34:17,680 Speaker 2: in heels up to six inches tall. Wow, that's crazy 3401 02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:20,199 Speaker 2: in sanity. I was dating this guy who was four 3402 02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:22,640 Speaker 2: inches taller than me. He wouldn't let me wear heels 3403 02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:25,240 Speaker 2: over three inches, so he was still taller than me. 3404 02:34:25,400 --> 02:34:27,760 Speaker 2: Red flag. We were going to a wedding for his cousin, 3405 02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:29,920 Speaker 2: and I had planned to wear some nice ballet flat 3406 02:34:30,000 --> 02:34:32,400 Speaker 2: so I would be comfortable but still appropriate, but he 3407 02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:36,440 Speaker 2: demanded that I wear heels. Long story short, several temper 3408 02:34:36,520 --> 02:34:38,959 Speaker 2: transtrooms later, I showed up with him to the wedding 3409 02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:41,760 Speaker 2: in kitten heels and insisted we sit near the front, 3410 02:34:41,879 --> 02:34:44,119 Speaker 2: not the very front, just not weigh in the back 3411 02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:47,080 Speaker 2: guys so particular for this guy. Yeah, you've broken up 3412 02:34:47,080 --> 02:34:49,120 Speaker 2: with them. Once most of the guests had shuffled to 3413 02:34:49,160 --> 02:34:51,680 Speaker 2: their seats, we had a few minutes before things got going. 3414 02:34:51,800 --> 02:34:55,000 Speaker 2: I excused myself to the bathroom and changed shoes, and 3415 02:34:55,080 --> 02:34:59,959 Speaker 2: guess what. I came out in eight inch heels. Boom 3416 02:35:00,520 --> 02:35:02,720 Speaker 2: walk past most of the sitting guests to get back. 3417 02:35:03,040 --> 02:35:05,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I top out at ten inch heels. For 3418 02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:10,320 Speaker 2: those curious, ten inches, ten inches, that's just spilt. What 3419 02:35:10,440 --> 02:35:13,360 Speaker 2: is ten inch heel? Ten inch heels? 3420 02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:14,280 Speaker 3: No way? 3421 02:35:14,680 --> 02:35:16,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I guess it's not that crazy. 3422 02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:16,959 Speaker 3: Let me see. 3423 02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:19,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of crazy. Wait wait, actually no, 3424 02:35:20,040 --> 02:35:26,000 Speaker 2: this is this is fucking crazy. This is fucking crazy. Yeah, 3425 02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:30,720 Speaker 2: that's nuts, yo. I mean, I guess the platform helps it. Now. 3426 02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:37,320 Speaker 2: That's that's that's sexy. Plus size heels. Ten Am I 3427 02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:39,080 Speaker 2: attracted to this? I don't think so. 3428 02:35:39,160 --> 02:35:40,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like you know when guys get like a 3429 02:35:40,879 --> 02:35:43,760 Speaker 1: pompadoor that's like, wsh, super crazy. 3430 02:35:43,760 --> 02:35:44,800 Speaker 3: It like becomes too much. 3431 02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you rock them though, Yeah you'd be 3432 02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:50,560 Speaker 1: yeah Katie kidding me, Mel Yeah. 3433 02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:54,200 Speaker 2: Ten inch heels, that's it's impressive. It might just be 3434 02:35:54,280 --> 02:35:58,080 Speaker 2: hot by the pure skill involved. Yeah, walking on them, 3435 02:35:58,840 --> 02:36:02,480 Speaker 2: tightrope walker like. Also, I was watching Ashley at rock 3436 02:36:02,480 --> 02:36:05,960 Speaker 2: climb the other day. Uh oh oh, oh my goodness, 3437 02:36:06,040 --> 02:36:09,920 Speaker 2: flexing them triceps and those booty steps, oh, heels, clicking 3438 02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:12,080 Speaker 2: and drawing attention the whole way. He stood up when 3439 02:36:12,120 --> 02:36:14,120 Speaker 2: I returned to let me into my seat, and then 3440 02:36:14,240 --> 02:36:16,080 Speaker 2: noticed I was now four inches taller. 3441 02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:18,640 Speaker 3: Uh oh, then he was the four inches taller than 3442 02:36:18,680 --> 02:36:19,000 Speaker 3: he was. 3443 02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:22,400 Speaker 2: Damn. He turned a lovely shade of purple, sat down 3444 02:36:22,480 --> 02:36:25,400 Speaker 2: and said some pretty nasty things to me. I had fun, 3445 02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:28,080 Speaker 2: danced and chatted with people while he moped and let 3446 02:36:28,120 --> 02:36:30,120 Speaker 2: me have it in the car. I just dropped him 3447 02:36:30,160 --> 02:36:32,040 Speaker 2: at home and told him to not call me again. 3448 02:36:32,120 --> 02:36:34,959 Speaker 2: He tried to backtrack and apologize and begged for a while, 3449 02:36:35,040 --> 02:36:37,320 Speaker 2: and then moved on to calling me an e fing 3450 02:36:37,560 --> 02:36:41,000 Speaker 2: bach and a stupid slut. I never replied, good riddance. 3451 02:36:41,240 --> 02:36:43,160 Speaker 2: I looked e fing hot at the wedding and my 3452 02:36:43,280 --> 02:36:45,560 Speaker 2: ex succumbed to his Napoleon syndrome. 3453 02:36:45,760 --> 02:36:49,879 Speaker 3: Waterloo bitch, damn. I love that. 3454 02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:52,160 Speaker 1: I love that because, like I think a lot of 3455 02:36:52,200 --> 02:36:54,880 Speaker 1: people might be like, Okay, he's that's an a whole 3456 02:36:54,920 --> 02:36:56,720 Speaker 1: move on his part, but it's just one time. But 3457 02:36:56,760 --> 02:37:00,360 Speaker 1: I think it's so it's it's the representative burg, you know, 3458 02:37:00,680 --> 02:37:03,200 Speaker 1: Like the fact that he's just so controlling over like 3459 02:37:03,400 --> 02:37:07,760 Speaker 1: that is really suggests that he's very insecure. 3460 02:37:08,160 --> 02:37:11,320 Speaker 2: He's very insecure and totally insecure. Bro give me give 3461 02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:14,680 Speaker 2: me a giant woman. I'm down. Give me an Amazonian. 3462 02:37:15,040 --> 02:37:17,640 Speaker 2: I will climb that thing like an eucalyptus tree. You would, 3463 02:37:17,680 --> 02:37:22,600 Speaker 2: and I'm a koala wow, just smear in five girly yeah, 3464 02:37:22,760 --> 02:37:26,160 Speaker 2: in ten inch heels. Give me a seven foot three 3465 02:37:26,160 --> 02:37:27,280 Speaker 2: girl climb that chip. 3466 02:37:27,280 --> 02:37:30,560 Speaker 1: Maybe that's a new video is sam Dates only seven 3467 02:37:30,600 --> 02:37:32,560 Speaker 1: feet women? 3468 02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:33,039 Speaker 5: Yeah? 3469 02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:37,920 Speaker 2: So eight eight feet tall with the heels, with the 3470 02:37:37,959 --> 02:37:39,680 Speaker 2: heels with the heels. I think we should do it 3471 02:37:39,800 --> 02:37:42,680 Speaker 2: me up. But with that, I think let's wrap this 3472 02:37:42,680 --> 02:37:45,440 Speaker 2: this episode up. We love you. We've been having some 3473 02:37:45,560 --> 02:37:48,040 Speaker 2: guest episodes. Have you been reading some of the comments. 3474 02:37:48,040 --> 02:37:51,279 Speaker 2: You guys are vicious, just some of our guests. That's true, 3475 02:37:51,640 --> 02:37:54,120 Speaker 2: you guys are vicious. I mean, we love you, but 3476 02:37:54,360 --> 02:37:56,640 Speaker 2: the ok O p r V could could bite off 3477 02:37:56,640 --> 02:38:00,120 Speaker 2: some people's head. Y'all are passionate, you know passion. We 3478 02:38:00,160 --> 02:38:03,760 Speaker 2: do love that pashion absolutely, but yeah, we'll see you soon. Peace,