WEBVTT - Episode 369 w/ Ginuwine 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:13.520 He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast man. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:16.760 He's a legendary queens rapper. 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:18.560 He ain't agreed as your boy in O R E. 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:21.720 He's a Miami hip hop mayonnaier on up his DJ 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.360 E f N. Together they drink it up with some. 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.160 Of the biggest players, you know what I mean, and 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:30.760 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.760 for drunk drink chans. Mother post every day is New 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.920 Year's c's It's time for drink Champs. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:45.640 Drink up, motherfucking mother. Would a good be hoping to 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:47.559 sud be This is your boy in O R E. 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.400 One up his dj E f N. This middle drink 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:58.080 Champs Happy Hour, drink some n Now. When we started 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.200 this show, we said we wanted to to give people, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:04.000 you know, their flowers. Who wanted to give people the icons, 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.840 the legends. When we talk about this man, this man 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.400 has made countless music for twenty over twenty twenty five 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:13.480 is it twenty five, twenty seven, twenty seven years? I 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.000 mean he got hits upon hits. 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:17.840 Oh. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:24.880 He's an actor, a dancer, producer, writer, keeping her reality 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:33.760 star far man. He could do it all. 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.840 Recently, he has been going viral for his dance moves 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:39.680 and falling. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.680 Off the stage. I was at that show. I just 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.640 missed you. I love his friend idjudgment. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.000 So when I tell you, man, this is a legend 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.960 of bar legend, a real one. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:56.440 You know, I searched. I've been searching him so much, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.440 and then you know, this is the first time, like 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:01.240 I've heard about his depression because I've been seeing him 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.400 for years and I have never seen him have a 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.640 bad day. I appreciate that this is a legend, icon 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:11.480 hit maker and his historian because were gonna get he 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.600 just got history upon history. So in case you don't 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:19.359 know who they talking about, one only tell you why. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.320 What I like about recently. What I like about recently 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.880 is a lot of people don't laugh at theirself. Oh yeah, 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.120 and I love the fact that you did not let 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:33.400 the internet win. No, the Internet they tried to like 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.200 because what was it? It was the first It was 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:35.520 the dad. 0:02:36.080 --> 0:02:39.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know what, when you've 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:44.680 been in this business as long as I have, I'm 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.840 glad so that it was just one of those things 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:51.040 and the research reason why people were at the dank 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.119 and I realized it's definitely two different moves. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:03:03.959 Totally young, young, the old Jesus. Yeah, I loved it, 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.919 Like so many people don't laugh at something. Yeah, is 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:09.040 that some of you developed? 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.520 Like I had to develop it, man, because I got 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:12.880 so many kids and they laugh. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.519 Okay, So they was like, Dad, don't get mad, this 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:18.640 is funny. You can make some part of this. Okay. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.040 So hold on, when did you know you was virable? 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:21.239 Like? 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:22.400 Whoit? 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:23.200 I was? 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:25.120 Actually I was in Vegas. 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.200 I was doing a show with Chris Angel and so 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.280 I had a break and my phone was lighting up. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.600 So I was like, what the hell is going on? 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:37.880 Like I was like, did somebody you know what I'm saying? 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.560 You don't know what's going on? And when they showed me, 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.480 I was like, I'm instantly like I don't care about that. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.240 You know, when you season and its been very little 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:51.680 things mess with you. I gotta admit that kind of 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.240 mess with me a little bit. Yeah, it messed with 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.960 me a little bit because I was like, dag yo, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.800 I was playing, I'm chilling, I'm I'm doing what I do. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.920 I'm playing, and so all the viral stuff, all that 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.280 stuff was truly like noid for real, Like all that 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.240 stuff is just new to me. Like I didn't know, 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.760 like like once you once that happens, like there's a 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.640 lot of other things you can do. I was like yo, 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:18.160 because at first I felt the way, and then my 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:19.000 kids had to call me. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.000 Dad was like, no, Dad, you can do this. It's 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.240 like a rebrand. Yes, yes, did you see that? But 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:31.520 do you first see it? They sent it to me Twitter. Yeah, yeah, 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.400 I love Twitter. Yes, I go on Twitter just to 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.000 get beat up. Really just going like whenever ho like 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.920 he loves whenever. I'm like too positive in this world. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:46.240 I'm just yeah, yeah, you gotta find me. I'm like, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:50.800 now you humble, I say, yeah, I stay like that. 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.159 So then let's bring it to the lovers and friends. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:54.719 Absolutely and friends. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.520 That's when I really see you would do the response 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.440 you had to pain going yeah, yeah, yeah, we're exactly 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.960 happy that lovers and friends. I don't know if you 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.719 addressed this yet, so let me. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:07.120 Take it out. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:15.559 OK, thank you so much. Cheers, cheers, cheers, solo solo 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.240 shop a jackeline not touching my ship, bro. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.440 So yeah, So the lovers and Friends thing, man, I 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.160 was so happy to be a part of them for 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.640 the second second year straight. 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.800 The first I was yeah, I was there last year, 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:36.080 so you know, we're doing our thing. We're drinking, we 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:36.760 having fun. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.800 We do what we do right, and so me, I'm all, 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.680 I've always been one of those artists that you know, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.000 wanted to touch the people go out there, and I 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:46.920 still do that right. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:53.400 So this particular situation, I jumped, but we know that 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:55.960 you know the big speakers, right, especially when you get 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:56.360 into it. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:01.320 Yeah and fried so you know the handles right there. 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:08.600 You know that dip up on the lad So my 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.640 foot went in it and that was on you. I 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.000 almost took the guy. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:12.800 Then security guard. 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:17.120 Was that the interpreted because the only thing I knew 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.279 the dude was grab hold on. 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.200 And I couldn't get mad because everybody was like, man, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:26.760 he should have caught that was like he didn't know 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.240 I was grabbing him. So the one thing that I 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:36.240 did do, I stayed professional. I kept that mic, kept 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.279 the mic right when it wasn't sore or nothing. 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:46.040 Yeah, I playing sleeping. It was hot to tell, oh 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.320 my god, oh my god. But yeah, I mean it 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:48.800 worked out. 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.680 I finished it, I got back, I got back to 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.920 my room, had had to had to soak it up because. 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:56.920 I didn't go virble that day. It went Viba the 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:57.640 second day. 0:06:58.040 --> 0:06:59.760 The second day and I was like, oh, please, don't 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.400 get it, dude, and I and I knew it, and 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:08.000 my assistant and dances and everybody was like, Naji, you're 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:08.520 gonna got. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.440 So I was like, all right, whatever. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.800 And so the next day, you know, with viral and 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.760 me learning from the first time, I was like, just 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.400 go along with it, just have fun with it. So 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:24.880 that's why I said, we fall down, you know. So 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:26.440 you know, it was one of those things where you 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:29.320 just got to play with it. Our trip at all, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.520 I think. I mean, I won't say no names, of course, 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.840 but there's been many artists that fell and so I 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.000 just I'm admitted into that classroom. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:43.320 Now, imagine we had social media times just like in 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:44.120 the nineties, like. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:49.400 Nineties everything from the stage equipment break down, like we 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.040 ain't have social media. But I was so glad that 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.440 you embraced the absolutely absolutely, But let me let me 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.040 bounce around. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.360 Okay, your time you can a sex symbol. 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:08.000 Okay, I mean it's considered just a lot of babies, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:09.559 a lot of babies. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:14.680 You made a lot of babies, yes, And how does 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:20.480 it feel like because me, unfortunately, like I've made music 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:25.200 for the streets, and Kris was always said, watch you 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:30.800 say because you attracted. And years later, I don't want 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.880 to say I even wish I didn't make music for 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:33.679 the streets. 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.559 But I wish I softened up. I wish I did 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.400 maybe sooner than like global like. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:44.640 Okay, okay, how is it making you know money off 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:48.559 of like that image of like well for me, man, 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:49.560 you know we started. 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.439 I started in uh ninety so I made it in 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.800 ninety six, so you know, I knew nothing else but 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.840 to make you know, good music and come from the heart, 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.719 you know, love music, soul music and all that. So 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.800 you know, once I started that, I didn't know how 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.679 big it was gonna be, you know what I mean, 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.480 Like you always hope for the best, you don't know 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:13.520 what it's gonna be. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.439 So you know, for me to have you know, the 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:18.840 CITs of the. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.280 Albums that I've had with Timberland and MISSI and all 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:28.040 those great man, it's something that I'm constantly thinking, thinking, God, 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.480 just the people for because you know, a lot of 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.000 people don't understand when you're not popping really here. You 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:41.960 can go overseas and feel like Michael Jackson, like that's real. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:43.400 That's real. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:45.800 I tell that to my friends all the time, all 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.839 the time. You're struggling in America. They gonna pay you, 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:51.760 They're gonna embrace you over there, and you feel like 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.760 it was it's it's it's you starting over, you know 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:57.120 what I mean. 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.800 So I've been man, I've been blessed to be everywhere. 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.360 Man. And I went to Nigeria and this was back 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:08.520 in maybe ninety nine or something like that, and man, 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:13.880 they had like a what you what you call them barcade? 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.160 What you call when you have so many people following you, 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.959 you have you have all the motorcycles and all that 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:22.640 kind of Moti caade, motorcare presidential. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:23.760 Yeah, man. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.199 And so I went over there and I was like, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:29.880 oh my god, this is crazy. So we went straight 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.120 from the airport to the hotel. But they told us, 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:37.439 don't lead us, don't lead us, hunt, don't lead the grounds. 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.920 But yeah, you can go from here, like when you 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:42.800 just on your you know, decline a little bit and 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.679 you just want to reboot, you can go over there 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.719 man and get so much love and get energy and 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.679 then it allows you to come back home and just 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:59.719 you know, start start being real, uh active, again and 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.320 what it is that you do. So it's a great thing, man. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.240 So me still making money and doing what I'm doing. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.720 I'm gone every weekend mostly every weekend. Every weekend. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:15.719 I'm like a wrestler. So it's all good, man, It's 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.760 a blessing. So yeah, I'm gonna give you three names. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.760 I want you to tell me. Infrared, Frosty, and Tornado. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:33.360 You you know what I got you? Okay, let me 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:34.199 give you some history on that. 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:37.120 What's the first one? The first one is Infrared Frosty. 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:52.800 All of who is is who me? I got that research. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:59.199 I was like, so is what it was when I 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:03.199 got with Joe to see in ninety Davante specific which 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:04.920 is crazy connection. 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:10.280 Yeah, so so we you know I got with them well, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.760 like I said, Davante specifically, and he was coming up 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:16.720 with a new uh uh you know crew called swim 0:12:16.800 --> 0:12:20.400 Mall La and then and so you know, he. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.000 Was going around, he was going around the world, going. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.040 Around the States, and he was looking for his first 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:31.680 solo male artists, first male groups, the female group female. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.599 Artists and all that. And I was pretty much picked along. 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:40.559 With Missy Timberland, Magoole Boogieyman, tweet all of us. So 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:44.240 the brother had an eye for talent obviously, right. So 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.080 once we once I moved up, you know, I had 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.719 a job. It was like eighty nine and ninety I 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.520 met them, I think in eighty nine and so ninety. 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:56.520 He was like, come on, man, it's time to rock. Now, 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:57.840 We're about to about to get first. 0:12:58.760 --> 0:12:59.000 Yeah. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.520 So so yeah, so I'm getting to. 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.280 I got so uh so he he said, come up, 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.360 so I think. So when I was coming up, he 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.240 was like, so, what's your scene now? I say scrappy right, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.040 so he was like why So back in the days 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:14.880 when I used to break dance, my name was Scrappy 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:16.559 g D Scrappy Greatest Dance. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:21.920 Alive right, so yeah, yeah yeah, so so he was like, nah, 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:24.640 don't work. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.280 So those are the names that we went through trying 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:31.760 to find a name that actually, you know, represented me 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.720 and who I am as a person. So uh uh, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.520 Frosty was I don't know what made him come up 0:13:39.559 --> 0:13:47.600 with him, I don't know, but he uh, you know, he. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:52.040 Said that, and I was like and then so like, yeah, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.959 a little bit, I'm gonna be three with that one. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.679 So Infrared was the next one, and you know, he 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.240 was like, yo, whatever you set your mind to, were 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.640 trying to make make sense of it. I was like, 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:08.079 So then the Tornado thing, I was open to that 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:09.839 a little bit. I was open to that because the 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.199 whole behind that, there you go. So you I just got. 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:23.960 I've been trying long time. Yeah, Tonado. It was more 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.360 so about what I do to the stage back then. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.480 But I did do this way. We still do it 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:34.160 to the stage just a little that's a little bit slower. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.560 But yeah, so that's basically what it was. And so 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:42.240 uh uh that kind of didn't work out. And so 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.160 I said, I've always wanted to name always three. There 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:49.440 you go, stop it, man, you've been doing your research. 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.240 Yeah, it was always a three syllable name. And I 0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:55.160 always wanted to hit her. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.040 So I said, best represents who I am as a person, 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.760 as a man, and so my name is Elgin. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.760 So we just took Jim and then I was like wow. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.400 First of first, we started with genuine and I was like, nah, man, 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:13.760 we got there, we got this something. 0:15:13.760 --> 0:15:16.360 And then I don't know, he came. He came. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.880 He was like, what about spelling it different and saying 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.920 genu wine, And I was like. 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:26.360 Dad is Okay, had anything to do with your first name? Yes, yeah, yeah, 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:28.080 because I was like, I want to use that, I 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:33.080 want to know that. Get you because you named the 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.400 basketball player, yeah, Elgin Bela front of the Lakers. 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.320 Yes, yes, yes, my mom thought I was gonna probably 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:39.880 be a basketball player. But at the end of the 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.080 day she was right in the in the sense of 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:43.640 me just being some sort of entertainer. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:44.840 So it was a great thing. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:48.400 And DeVonta had a big part of the names absolutely absolutely, yeah, yeah, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:53.040 because we was like he had a lot of names, man, Tornado, fifty, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.800 all kinds of fifty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Missy did that. 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.920 You know, she's joking. It was back in the days 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.360 I used to wear fake some real jewelry and some 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:08.160 fake jolly. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:19.120 So she said that that landed for what I was like, hell, no, no, no, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:22.720 we can't do that. 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Yeah, yeah, 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:14.840 so coming from DC, how did you hook up with 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:18.720 Davonte to get to a Rochester But we were already hooked. 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.439 Up, so we were already pretty much a family. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.600 This is like a writing camp, yeah really really really 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.159 one of those things where like it should be a 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:27.880 lot more of that, you know what I mean as 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:32.840 far as cruel because we started in the studio together 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.440 and we started doing contests like who can write the 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.560 fastest Missy and Timberland. I mean, Missy always wants she 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:42.120 always won. Yeah, so you know, it was a great 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.399 boot camp for years for us to learn because I 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:47.160 was on tour with them. I was on like three 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:50.240 tours with them. I just learned the business and all 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:52.200 that stuff. And they, you know a lot of people 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.639 thought I was younger than what I was. I was 0:18:54.720 --> 0:18:58.680 already you know, a grown dude, but you know I was, 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:00.800 you know, I had to have that had had a 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:04.399 young look. But yeah, up in Rochester, I mean up 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:09.280 in Rochester, we were always having you know, write offs 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.760 and all that kind of stuff, and it was a 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.320 great way for us to stay on our toes shopping 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:17.280 you know, iron shop like artists camp. 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.159 Yeah, pretty much, that's what it was. And you know 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.960 he got that, he got a lot of that stuff 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.600 from just wanting us to just to. 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:27.640 Be the best at that time, you know what I mean, 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.360 he was trying to make a Jodasy or I don't 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:31.840 know now, I don't think he was trying to make 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:34.159 he was trying to do the thing because he kind 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.080 of left Jodason. I was like, what are you doing? 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:41.800 So he was really on him, trying trying to be 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:46.840 uh uh Andre Horrel because that was one of. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:52.439 His mentors and so yeah, yeah, yeah, but so he. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.240 Was trying to make his own, his own motown, his 0:19:55.359 --> 0:20:00.399 own own Lovetown Records and all that, and so you know, 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.320 unfortunately it didn't work out. But but I wouldn't change 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.240 it for the world, bro. But it was a time 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.840 where like everyone kind of left. Yeah, yeah, he was 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:09.720 the only one that stayed. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.440 I was the only one that stay. A couple couple 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.080 of people I believe one of them is a Lee 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:18.159 and one is Missy. Wasn't with miss Missy. She was 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.400 like she paid loyal to the default. Yeah, she paid, 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.520 she paid for me to get get back. But did 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.000 you did you think she was right when she said 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:25.080 you was loyal to a default. 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.240 I didn't look at it like that. I was looking 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.520 at it like he brought me from d City to nothing. 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.479 And that's been a lot of the times. That's been 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:35.680 my fault, uh in life, just trusting people. As long 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:37.200 as I've trusted him, you know what I mean. But 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.960 I always felt like, look where am I going? Where 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:40.480 am I gonna go? 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.080 People was always telling me, come on back home, they ain't. 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:43.960 Gonna do nothing, d D. 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.480 But I was like, I'm here. I got to make it. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:47.520 I got to do something. 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.840 I got to you know, even if it even if 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.800 it doesn't last as long as it has lasted, I 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.080 needed to do something, you know what I mean. 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.560 And so so so I stuck it through. 0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:00.680 But it got a little crazy for a while, and 0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:03.119 so I was just like, yeah, Missy was like, yo, 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:03.920 you gotta leave. 0:21:04.200 --> 0:21:06.840 You know, if you need money to leave, I got 0:21:06.920 --> 0:21:07.600 you and all that. 0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.760 And fortunately, you know, I was able to get back 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.320 and and and do one of the fastest deals in 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:15.080 the nineties. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.320 And it was like over the weekend with five fifty 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.520 music Sony, Right. 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:24.240 So, why did you think, because I know we're all 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.359 young at the time. Yeah, yeah, So why did you 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.119 think Missy and Timberland left in the first place. Was 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:30.920 it was it about money or was it about like 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.720 receiving the works. You gotta understand, when we were up there, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.239 all of us was really like just doing our own thing. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.760 We would talk and all that. But Missy was getting it. 0:21:42.080 --> 0:21:45.440 She started getting a song. Yeah, she started getting with 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:49.399 very J Blige, Kim Puff she was. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.239 She did Raven Simon, that was like one of her 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:52.919 first joints. 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:59.359 And she was with us uh Semino two and she 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:02.560 did a lot of stuff. So needless to say, if. 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:06.720 You around our our world, people people gonna talk to 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:07.840 you hearing about miss. 0:22:09.880 --> 0:22:12.320 And she just started doing what she was supposed to do. 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.000 She did the right thing. She absolutely did the right thing. 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.680 And you know we we always talked. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:19.520 You know, she just called me when I did fall 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.639 off the sec Wow, she said, don't she let the 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:22.159 white tell her? 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:23.400 You tell you you ain't no start. 0:22:23.960 --> 0:22:28.760 It's so good because yeah, I mean, we spent a 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.200 lot of time together. Man, we spent like six years together. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:36.520 So the bond is there, Okay, bond is definitely definitely there. 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.760 Never will be broken her myself, Timbling. You know, we 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.200 still got our got our lives to deal with and 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.879 all that. But if something goes down there, they're the 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:46.920 first and I'm the first to call them. You know 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:47.280 what I mean? 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.720 Because I related to a story that you told so 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.840 so bad that mine's a little bit different. But for real, 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:57.919 didn't come to my homeboy video nothing video, the biggest records, 0:22:58.240 --> 0:22:59.919 and he didn't come, and he didn't he didn't come, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.440 but he told me, which I believe now I didn't 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:05.040 believe then. 0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:08.720 Okay, Okay, he said you didn't need me, Nori, Okay. 0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:12.679 But I was like, no, I paid for you. Look up, 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.040 I want you to come. So you So when I 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.640 see you say that you was bad at him showing 0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.200 up in the video, I have felt that in my soul. 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:25.680 Yeah yeah, and I but do you think Timberland didn't 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.560 show up because of similar to the reason Pharrell? Like 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.280 Pharrell was he really sincerely thought that I didn't need him. Okay, 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.440 what you talking about? Which which video? Which was? Because 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:36.720 I'm in the first one, I think the one you 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:37.960 said you paid fifty thousand? 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.280 No no, no, no, no, no no no. That was 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:42.719 a misunderstanding. I think that was something that the label 0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:45.320 at that time. I was independent at that time, with 0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.159 an independent label, not me just doing everything, but with 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:49.400 an independent label. 0:23:49.280 --> 0:23:50.800 And I think she paid him. 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.560 I really don't know about that, but I knew that 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.240 nothing would break album. 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:58.560 We spent a lot of time together, bro like. 0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:01.920 Like I know that brother, I know that he had Yeah, 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.040 because of what I was told and that again, it 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:05.720 was just so long. 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.840 I don't don't remember all the logistics of it. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:12.480 But of course with me, we had the same management 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.040 for a while, and then once I broke away from 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:20.639 that management, he distanced himself from from me a little bit. 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:21.399 That hurt me. 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.720 That that is what hurt me as far as like 0:24:24.800 --> 0:24:27.920 showing up for something late later on, I I don't 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.399 think that was really an issue. I was a little more. 0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:32.639 I was a little jealous of some of some of 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:37.640 the stuff that he was doing for uh, just to stimulate, 0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:43.320 until I learned. 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:44.480 That Justin was writing it. 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:49.000 So I was like, oh, okay, that's that's a whole 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:50.480 different level. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.800 So I was just like, I'll let that go. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:55.399 I'll let that go. 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:58.159 But yeah, that was you know, me and me and 0:24:58.320 --> 0:25:01.320 me and Tim will forever because connected and hopefully we'll 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:02.800 be able to do something special again. 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:03.040 Man. 0:25:03.800 --> 0:25:08.000 I always respect shout out to Dre and Snoop and 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:11.800 God man, I love that when I see stuff like that, 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:16.639 shout out to Puff and even though sometimes things go 0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:19.360 on none of my business. But when he did that tour, 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.480 everybody showed up Kim, and I was just like yo, 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.120 I was the first thing I did. I was like, Tim, 0:25:26.880 --> 0:25:32.080 come on man, man. But you know, uh, we still 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:34.399 got time, We still got time. Let me ask you 0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:35.840 something that Tanks said on here. 0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:47.560 There later later with something Tank said he he has 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:52.359 sung a stance Sam Smith song. Right, I remember like 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.600 this this when when a white person sings about a 0:25:55.640 --> 0:26:00.480 certain thing, it could go to certain places. But the 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:02.920 genre of black music, like if you the majority turned 0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:06.600 on the radio, it's it's really a lot more negative 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:13.800 than it is bad, but I mean positive, you know. 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:16.960 So is that something that that does you agree with? 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:19.800 As far as what as far as him saying that 0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:21.960 it's it's more bad, what you mean. 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.359 Him saying that, like a white person could sing a 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:32.080 ballad and and go, but if Tank or you sing 0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.359 a ballid, people judge it. They don't let it go 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:35.560 to a certain extent. 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:40.080 He's he's absolutely right, but he's not sometimes a lot 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.159 of people got to understand it's a testament to us 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.680 not supporting one another too. You understand, we gotta, we 0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:49.040 gotta if somebody comes out with something and you know, 0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:51.159 it's sort of it's sort of like boxers now and 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.000 all all of that, Like we just have to support 0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:57.000 one another. We we we're so caught up in what 0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.879 somebody is doing negative and bringing that to the for 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.800 front and bringing that to like we know, the good 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.639 stuff is always overshadowed by bad stuff. 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.640 And that's something that I hate. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:11.920 And that's why when it took me so long to say, 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.320 not because you was asking me or anything about it, 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.879 but for me to be open and even do podcasts 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:20.280 or me to be because it's like the world, the 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.920 world has changed so much. It's like you don't want 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.200 to go on something and say something and take it 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.480 out of context and then you get buyed and you 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.320 lose all your all your deals. You look so I 0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:33.960 just I'm so hands off. I'm let me go do 0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:35.760 my shows, let me do what I do when I 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:36.640 go back home. 0:27:36.760 --> 0:27:37.520 Shut my mouth. 0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:40.280 I don't do all that because you know it's crazy 0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:42.600 right now, you know what I mean, It's very crazy. 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.040 I could tell that's how you feel. Yes, absolutely, I'm 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:49.520 gonna tell you how I kept searching, search and searching 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:52.720 all your interviews, and there was so many interviews that 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:55.040 you wasn't even in the interview. It's just people talk 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.840 about you, right, And I could tell a lot of 0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:01.080 these rumors you just didn't address because you feel like 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.280 you're too big for it, or it's just because you 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:03.800 don't want to be. 0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.880 I feel like I feel like I'm way too big 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:11.000 for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because that's the thing 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:15.000 about it is. You know, this nation and everything is 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:19.159 built on innocent until proven guilty. Right nowadays you're guilty 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.720 and to proven anything. Right. So I don't never feel 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.040 like I have to fight anybody for nothing, you know 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.760 what I mean? Like, I know who I am, stand up, gud, 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.639 I'm true to my name, always have been, always will be. 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.320 So I don't feel like I have to fight fight 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:34.040 for anything. 0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:37.399 If somebody thinks something, you've already lost anyway, Because as 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.760 soon as somebody think whatever it is that they think 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:40.240 about you. 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:41.240 That's their truth. 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.280 Anything they didn't already made up their mind. I'm not 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:46.360 here to make to change your mind. Nigga. 0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:48.880 You know what I'm saying, like, you look, if. 0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.920 You if that's that's what you feel about, keep that, 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.720 take that, take that with you, take that with you know. 0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:58.320 I'm absolutely above that, absolutely absolutely Did. 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.320 You ever think like that it would be where it's 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.400 at right now? Like right now, like right now, you 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.760 don't need no talent, You don't, you don't, you don't 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.400 even need, you don't need. I'm talking about this is 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:11.800 in general. 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:12.440 It's not just art. 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.719 It's not just artists, like a person, a person who 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.720 can actually like there's so many women that I go 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:19.760 on Instagram and I can look at this and they 0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:22.480 have two point five million followers and I'm like, she 0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.440 make the War Report right, like how she got more 0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:29.080 followers than me? And because he's working, she's working like 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:34.000 history and there's no disrespect, absolutely respect her. But I 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:36.800 have never seen this level like and there's so many 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:37.960 Instagram comedians. 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:40.440 That's why I always refer to that time with Mike. 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.600 Mike Epps had an Instagram comedian on what Us. 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:50.000 And Mike just fried them. Who is my man? What 0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.000 I'm saying is like, sometimes you put an artist next 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:56.080 to artists next to you know, not a made up party. 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.800 Did you ever think that it would be to sit here? 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:03.200 Did you ever think it would be here, like the 0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.760 society would be here? You know what the teller tell 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:09.800 the truth. Yeah, you saw the fucking we coming. You 0:30:09.880 --> 0:30:10.800 saw the idiocracy. 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.440 Yeah, and AI only makes it worse now, AI makes 0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:14.120 it the horrible. 0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:14.640 Right. 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:18.760 But once the internet, once the Internet came out, and 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.880 once you start to see the progression of just go 0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:24.360 back to Mars, right. 0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:26.320 So I knew Tom. 0:30:29.480 --> 0:30:33.960 Everybody everybody face party, but I mean you could start 0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:37.800 to see it then, and it was brilliant what they 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:42.960 thought about when it came to the Just the word followers, Yeah, 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.640 just the word followers that gave you, that gave you 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:51.600 such a big platform. Right. And so once it took me, yo, 0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:56.120 it took me to two thousand and fifteen or sixteen 0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:59.920 to even get Instagram and Facebook. 0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:00.400 Again and all that stuff. 0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.080 Yeah, because I'm old school, bro, I come up through 0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.040 with with with with the Michael Jackson's and the princes 0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:10.040 and the new additions and the Bobbies and all that. 0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:12.280 We wasn't letting you know, when we're going on, no 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.800 damn store man, all that kind of stuff, We're not 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.600 doing that. So I never really subscribed to it until 0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.680 I understood it, Like I was truly. 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.000 Old head, old school, like, nah, I ain't doing that. 0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:28.080 I think it actually took away the mystery and the 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.080 art of an artist because it's so exploited. 0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.120 You know that too much access. 0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.800 You got way too much access to just think if 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:41.800 Michael like what, oh my god, I don't think right. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.080 So it's one of those things man, I just never 0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.680 caught on until twenty fifteen. You know, I love social media, 0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:52.360 but what I hate about social media is we're all 0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:53.280 on that same level. 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:57.840 Once we open up that app. Yes it doesn't We're 0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.280 all say so, there's someone in Nebraska in the basement 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.440 sowhere saying no you I can talk, gonna re threet him. Yeah, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:06.480 He's like wait a minute. 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.360 So and but going back to the you just when 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.920 you said followers, I'm like, the only thing to have 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.200 followers is cults and religions. 0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:21.000 It's crazy boom. So that's what I'm saying, the followers. 0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.960 The followers thing is it was was the key tore like, 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.800 oh man, this and it's all fake, you know what 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:29.040 I mean? Like I tell people all the time, you 0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:31.800 can have a twenty million followers or whatever. 0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.560 Put something out and see how many people get it 0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:34.960 or whatever. 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.120 That's so cool. That's what happened out you see, that's. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:39.440 So what happened with hip hop. 0:32:39.520 --> 0:32:41.720 And in terms of charting, they're saying, this is the 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.760 first time and in thirty years that hip hop hasn't 0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:45.920 had a number one record. 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.360 That's what I'm saying is it's really it's really a 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:49.120 smoke screen. 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.560 And so I did see it. That's how I was like, 0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:54.360 Oh my god, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't see 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.240 it's gonna be this. So I saw it was gonna 0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:58.640 be this. Stupid bro, I've seen the movie Idiocracy. 0:32:58.680 --> 0:32:59.280 You have ever seen them? 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.200 Noah, I have nothing. Got to see the movie. I 0:33:02.320 --> 0:33:03.040 foresaw a lot of it. 0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.680 Said let's be good into time more technology we used 0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:08.600 become stupid. 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.280 Like think about it. I don't really know anybody's phone 0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.880 number back then. I knows you won't remember. I used 0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:18.320 to know twenty people's phone number. It made me use 0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:21.680 my brain. The smarter the smartphone got, the dumb I got. 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.080 You can what we got. Don't have a met don't 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.560 what we all got. You can't name five numbers in 0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:30.720 your absolutely can't. I can't you can't. 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:32.760 You probably got one your mama. That's it. 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:36.880 I got, Yes, that's it. That's it, know Eddie Giggs, 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:42.560 because you had the same did you see that dogs 0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:46.120 man deafite? Definitely, because we depend on this. This is us. 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.000 Just doesn't have a f This is us. I saw 0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:51.240 to be off subject, but it's on subject. The other day, 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.400 swear to God, a therapist friend of mine said to me, 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:58.600 you know you got when you get on social media, 0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.120 is a certain people you followed? So he said, he 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:07.120 said that he had, he had he had clients that 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.439 would wake up in the morning and they would follow 0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:12.640 porn stars. And so when they following porn stars, they 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.920 think it about sex. Then you got clients that they 0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:18.239 following kickboxes or or or people that's holding pistols and 0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.520 they're thinking about and you don't even realize that you're 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.680 putting yourself into that in that mode like that ship was. 0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:26.040 It was ill when he broke that down to me, 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.480 and I was like, I can't lie. Immediately stopped following 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:36.440 certain people. I was just like, yo, program, that's what 0:34:36.480 --> 0:34:39.879 it's doing. Yeah. It fucked me up. So I woke 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.719 up this morning, which I didn't use the internet the 0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:45.719 whole time I was in I was in Italy and past, 0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:47.160 so I tried not to use it the whole time. 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:49.560 In this morning, I woke up and I got trapped 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.319 right trapped right into that ship. I was like, yo, 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:52.239 holy ship. 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.520 Okay, yeah, yeah, your phone is you? 0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.239 Yes, so, but we want you to know our show 0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.000 was about giving our legends they flowers, while yeah, you 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.319 are super legend. We've been trying to get you since 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.800 the show started. Your flowers to your face. 0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:07.160 Oh. 0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:16.040 Your face? Thank you grabbed come of his own people. 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:17.359 God damnit, that's what I did. 0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:20.640 Yeah. 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.920 Do you did you think you know because you have 0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:31.399 an illustrious career? Yes? Did you think you would would 0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:35.680 the last for twenty seven years? Back then? No, I 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:36.480 didn't think. I'm not. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.560 I knew that that song that I started out with 0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:44.680 ultimately was ultimately was a special song to my pony. 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.480 Yes, because it was supposed to be for a securities intro. 0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.320 Yeah there you boy, you you bad. You gotta you 0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.840 asked him for her too. I asked him for because 0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:57.160 back in the days, you remember, I ain't gotta tell you, 0:35:57.320 --> 0:36:02.399 but interludes was a big thing for Jodysson and even 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.239 n W uh uh death Row, you know what I mean. 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.600 So we were doing a lot of intererluds and that's 0:36:08.640 --> 0:36:11.040 what we were following. We was called the Basement, so 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:15.600 you know Snoop, Snoop, Sug and all of them. We 0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.760 had a great connection with Demonte because actually Sugar started 0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:21.440 managing Jodason for a while and so we. 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.759 Kind of kind of took a little bit from them 0:36:24.000 --> 0:36:25.400 and all that, and. 0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.800 So that was just something that was uh uh you 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:31.800 know special for us to do man. 0:36:32.280 --> 0:36:35.160 And and and and just to maintain and do the interlud. 0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:39.480 So once he he was doing something interlude and he 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.759 was playing, I was like, Yo, that's dope, that's dope. 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.919 And then he played Pony. Now now now just pure pictured. 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.400 This okay without the words, because I always felt like Pony. 0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:50.919 Anything could have been put the pony and Pony would 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:51.560 have been a hit. Right. 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:55.440 He played that song and he was like, yeah. 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.120 This is gonna be for the this is gonna be 0:36:57.320 --> 0:37:00.759 for the bodyguards something. So and I'm looking at him 0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:06.960 like the bodyguard and it just now, I mean I 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:10.800 just heard it. I was like, dude, please give me that. 0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:13.959 Let me ask you, please me that for two years 0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.200 you mean you meant that it was recorded or ready 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.239 for two years. Y'all heard it is to actually give 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:20.600 you the actually right now, y'all heard it in ninety six, 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.520 We recorded it in ninety three, ninety four. 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.680 Yeah, y'all, y'all, and what was still popping to this day. Yeah, 0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:33.120 let's make no noise for that. Yeah, go ahead. 0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.279 So what happened was when when you asked me about 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.919 did I did I know whether it would be, whether 0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:41.520 I would be here. I didn't know whether I would 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:43.440 be here, but I knew that song was special. So 0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.200 I what I did when I did it and we 0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.520 finished our Rest in Peace static major because he wrote 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.239 it and I helped write the verses, but he wrote 0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:54.120 the song, so I don't take no. 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:57.359 Credit for that. He wrote to the Yeah, he wrote 0:37:57.360 --> 0:37:58.280 the hook. 0:37:58.200 --> 0:37:59.680 Was already done when I came in there, and I 0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.360 was like, I gotta help you write these verses. 0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.000 I gotta have pie. I got to have a piece 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:05.200 of that. 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:11.960 So you know, once that happened, man, I said, once 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.440 once it was finished, was master and all that, and 0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:17.919 D was like, that's your single right there, that's your singing. 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:18.920 I was like, yeah, it is. 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:22.560 So once he told me that I reverted back to 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.799 when I saw Michael Jackson on Motown twenty five. I said, 0:38:25.800 --> 0:38:30.640 you gotta do a step to this that will make 0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:34.279 people remember this song forever. And so that's what you 0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.279 see in the beginning. I did that in ninety three. 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:40.400 That was old as a as an artist. 0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:45.760 If we caught a record and it don't drop, most 0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.600 of us give up on that record. 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:51.000 Oh yeah, it wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, What the fuck 0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.320 made you stay consistent? No? 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.880 That was just one of the things where Davante was 0:38:55.120 --> 0:39:01.120 looking for a deal, and you know, unfortunately we had 0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:05.480 He had like sixteen artists, sixteen acts, and when I 0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:07.680 say acts, it could be five people in one group, 0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.879 one people and all that. So, and he was going 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.840 around and they would always say they wanted me, Missy 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:19.319 and Timbling. So he was going to places and they 0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.799 would tell him, no, we want him, we want her, 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.120 and we want Timbling as whatever. And he was like, 0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.200 if you don't take them all, you can't have nothing. 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:30.280 It took me years even. 0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:35.400 To know this because him and his boy fell out. 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:38.040 I won't say his name because we had some falling 0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:41.000 out or whatever, but it was his boy from home 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:43.279 and he was just like I gotta tell you, bro, 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.719 like you could have been had a deal and all that, 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.920 And then I'm looking at him like telling you that. No, no, no, that's. 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.560 So I'm looking at him like you a snake. Why 0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:55.320 don't you tell me that? 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:55.640 No? 0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:56.200 Why would you. 0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:56.560 Tell me that? 0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:56.960 Period? 0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.880 That's your boy. If it wasn't for him, again, my loyalty. 0:40:00.120 --> 0:40:01.920 But if what for him, you wouldn't even be up here? 0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.000 Why are you telling me that? Though? 0:40:03.040 --> 0:40:05.160 So I'm looking at him like you a rather dude. 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.080 You you you, you you're wrong. 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:08.520 But he was telling the truth. 0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:10.799 He was telling the truth, and so he looked at 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.839 it like I guess, man, you're gonna stop these these 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:17.520 people's talent and they're gonna look up and it's gonna 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.400 be gone. Like like you, we only have a small 0:40:20.480 --> 0:40:23.560 window we have we I mean, if you're lucky, once 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:27.560 you have that that crew behind you, if you're lucky, 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.080 you know you can get on. But once that phase away, 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.520 like it's kind of just kind of a done deal 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:34.480 for you, you know what I mean. 0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:37.760 So luckily I just stayed with him. I just stayed 0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.040 with him and things worked out. 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.360 Man. Maybe he thought y'all would be strong as a 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.680 conglomerate going in, yeah, situation, I think he had just 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.120 had a vision, and sometimes when people have a vision, 0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:50.279 they don't detour from that vision, and sometimes it's a 0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:52.680 hindrance for the people that he has behind him and 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.279 with them, which it was, and so that's why a 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.880 lot of people and the crew we uh, we understood that, 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:01.719 and we had to have to say, I think we 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:06.400 did our part in the loyalty category. Now we got 0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.560 to start looking out for ourselves. So Missy was pretty 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.759 much the first one on the left. Yeah was miss 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:14.920 was Missy? Did you ask Missy to write on our 0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:17.399 pony here? First? No? Never? Never. 0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.080 Statue was like this mine. 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.600 Because when I heard it, I knew it was different, right, 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.560 And I was like, I was like. 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.920 What the hell? But I knew it was special, and 0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.319 so I asked Static. I said, you got to help 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:31.759 me write this. Man, I don't even know what to 0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.239 do with this. But Static was really right, and a 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:38.520 whole bunch of stuff for the albums that were supposedly 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.360 come coming out and all that. But you know, I 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.440 didn't even know where to start. So he was like, 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.239 I got you, dog, I got you. So he went 0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.359 down in the basement. We had this place called the Base, 0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.560 that's what our crew was name, and so it was 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.040 like like two floors down. 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.800 It was this place called days GA Line up in Rochester, 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:56.040 New York. 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.239 And so it was a big building and we had 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.960 studios there everywhere and that's where we got down at, you. 0:42:00.960 --> 0:42:01.319 Know what I mean. 0:42:01.400 --> 0:42:08.200 So so because that record rings off to this day still. 0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.560 Now. One thing, one thing that that is shocking about 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.000 it is most people like, you know what, you're doing 0:42:15.080 --> 0:42:19.160 shows before that record, because because you were doing shows, 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:22.719 because most people who write a hit record, who has 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.080 to hit record, it is catering to the audience. Like, 0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.360 so you were doing shows before that, you knew that 0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:31.399 this would work at a show? 0:42:32.280 --> 0:42:35.560 Yeah, absolutely. I was doing shows since I was like ten, 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.520 get up, Yeah, you know what I mean. So so 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.280 so so my linea is my time in the music 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:43.040 business goes way back, you know what I mean. I've 0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:47.560 always been an entertainer, like like getting the talent, shows, breakdancing, 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:51.239 doing all that. So but once I did that, oh yeah, 0:42:51.440 --> 0:42:53.480 I was like, yeah, I got it, I got I 0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:56.400 got When do you work for KFC? I worked for 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.920 KFC before I went up there. I had i had 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:02.040 three I had three jobs. Man. I used to work 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.160 neighborhood Investment KFC and I used to work at a 0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.480 construction company. 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:07.920 All the same time. 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.759 Father seeing up and coming artists, Go get yourself a job, 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:12.080 Go get. 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:16.440 Yourself a job. Mother had three jobs paying for the dream. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:19.239 That motherfucker out here to sleeping on your girl couch. Yeah, 0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.800 talking about you struggling artists, you want to be struggling. 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:23.680 This is real. 0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.600 Fact. The other day, like, if you're struggling artists, make 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:31.359 sure you go get. 0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:35.400 A job, even when I'm even when I made it 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.920 with them, when I thought that I made it in 0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.960 ninety I was working at Champs and then me and 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:43.600 my brother in New. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.759 York his name is you ain't have Pony out which 0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:50.520 nah we're talking to quit that job. 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:56.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah after Pony it was working the RAF. 0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:57.680 It was a rap. 0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.520 Yeah, but I still had that foundation. 0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.359 No, man. Now, maybe just like you saying, I'm able 0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:04.399 to tell a lot of the young guys up there now, 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:06.400 you know, it's just different now though you can just 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.840 sit at home and do what you gotta do. You 0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:11.920 can record your phone. It's different now. But yeah, I 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:15.320 mean so I'm able to tell that story and know 0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.879 that it came from the mud. 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:18.399 I didn't. 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:19.880 I didn't get it given to me. 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:24.239 You know, man, vision about in the nineties, which like 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:26.800 these kids have it so good. I remember if I 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:28.719 had to if I wanted my record to be played 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.040 in London, I had to go to London. Oh yeah, 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:34.000 I had to go to if I wanted to play 0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:35.920 we played in Virginia, I had to visit and bring 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.960 the record. You had to do in stores. Yeah, yes, 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:43.960 that's how I met you, right, that's what that's what's up. Yeah, 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:46.000 all of them was good. 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:50.840 Some of them were staking it on you, you know, 0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:52.279 you know them days they want to get you a 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:53.360 hug and you're. 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.239 Like, I wish, I wish COVID was out back. I 0:44:56.360 --> 0:45:00.040 was COVID was out back then, but COVID niggas. I 0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:04.560 had to give so many hugs to stinky people, I mean, 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.600 because sometimes they're waiting outside for you know what I mean. 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.080 Those It was crazy, man. But you had to do 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:09.440 all that. 0:45:09.640 --> 0:45:12.120 You had to do the morning show, you had to 0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.279 do the install, you had to do dinners, you had 0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.120 to do the you had to do the morning show. 0:45:17.160 --> 0:45:19.839 Promo tour was free. You didn't get paid to do. Man, 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:25.319 that's when I still hurt, still hurt. Let me promo 0:45:25.440 --> 0:45:28.879 to us hurt right now? My third, my third because 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:30.279 you know, at the end of the day, you have 0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:33.120 to do promo tours for all your records. And I 0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:37.160 think my third record is when I found out that 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:40.880 a lot of people don't understand and know that we 0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:44.520 made bag. Like now that y'all saying that bag and 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:46.359 that was us. Wow. 0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:48.840 Let me let me give you the history. Let me 0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.879 give you the history for this. Back in the day, 0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:51.840 you're gonna relate. 0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:54.520 Back in the days, a lot of artists didn't care 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:57.160 nothing about, you know, the money part of it. 0:45:57.239 --> 0:45:59.440 We just wanted girls. We just want to drinks and 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:00.959 we want to go the party, right. 0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:02.959 Yeah, I want them money though. Yeah, well you prob. 0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:08.120 A lot of us, Yeah, playing around and so and 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:14.160 so my boys Jerry Vines and Cliff Jones back in 0:46:14.280 --> 0:46:18.080 d C. You know that basically came from you remember, 0:46:18.120 --> 0:46:20.520 back in the days, we had what's some things called 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:24.000 when when you're on the label, uh and and you 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.160 go to the city and you meet. 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:27.960 The streets, the street street reps. 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.319 Yeah, but they were saying, yeah, it's street wraps or whatever, 0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:33.560 MIXTU meeting now the street reps. 0:46:33.680 --> 0:46:36.000 But it was another name though, but because because there's 0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.240 two different people, it's the people that ride you around 0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:39.480 in the event. That's about it. 0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:43.319 It was the name for it, what street reps whatever. Yeah, 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.680 So so they used to trick us. I don't know 0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.600 about you, but they used to trick us and say, yo, man, 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.000 we we got this club here. 0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:53.160 Come come on, come on, come on on. So once 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:54.719 I got to, once I. 0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:59.359 Got to yeah, but they would give you no money, 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.160 right right, And so the whole time, a lot of 0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:05.839 those street reps or whatever they was called, they were 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:09.120 getting money for it. And so once and so, so, 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.359 once I got a little more seasoned, I was like, man, 0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:15.080 look they're gonna they're gonna have to. 0:47:15.080 --> 0:47:16.600 Pay me today. He's like, man, come on, man, you 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:19.080 gotta you gotta do this for the record, for the record. 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:23.480 And so I actually caught somebody, I won't say the name, 0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.440 actually caught somebody. And you know, when when you go 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.080 to the bank, they give you like a bag, like 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:33.400 a bag to put your money in. So I was like, 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:36.400 we was like, you got that damn bad give me that. 0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:37.280 Damn bag. 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.600 Where that came from so I actually had I still 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:45.279 got a production company name Bag Entertainment. If you go 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:50.600 to my fourth CD, uh Snoop introduced my fourth CD, 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:54.560 The Senior, and he say, Bag Entertainment presents. 0:47:54.840 --> 0:48:03.160 Gen y'all, y'all, Old Jen wants yo from us. That's oh, bro, 0:48:03.320 --> 0:48:06.080 that's oh, that's d C stuff. Okay, that what God 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:11.600 a game that we play on the show. Okay, playing them. 0:48:12.040 --> 0:48:14.600 I've said a couple of other games. I don't know 0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:16.560 this one. We're gonna give you two choices. 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.520 You pick one, okay, let me if you if you 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:22.640 if you say both, the neither, we drinking, all of 0:48:22.719 --> 0:48:24.520 us a drink when we with you. We're giving you 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.840 two choices. If you pick one of the two, we 0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:29.040 go move on to the next question. I would drink anyway. 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:30.840 But if you say both, like you can't make up 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:33.840 your mind, then we all drink. We don't leave you 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:37.400 out there. We're taking a shot with you. Okay. By 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:39.680 the way, me and him don't make up these questions. No, 0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:46.279 these guys motherfuckers over there. It's all mindicans and producers, 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.960 So blame blame these questions on the Okay, cool. By 0:48:50.000 --> 0:48:52.120 the way, this first one is classic? Is this pep 0:48:52.440 --> 0:48:54.160 cot Okay? 0:48:54.239 --> 0:48:55.160 Can I get another one place? 0:48:55.160 --> 0:48:55.399 Sep? 0:48:56.400 --> 0:48:58.600 Oh? You did? Okay because it was you know the 0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.640 differ between yes, Sweeter, I can put you applying fold. 0:49:03.120 --> 0:49:05.680 Oh absolutely, you'll be like do it. That's an eighties baby. 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.759 Yeah yeah. Are you ready for the first one? Yep, 0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:32.080 tank you I was, I knew was going like that one. 0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.840 This one I don't know Snoop Dog with Jay Z 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:49.239 Snoop Chris Brown Usher bo I got to take a shot. 0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.520 That was a good one though. That was a good 0:49:56.560 --> 0:50:05.640 Oh yeah, that is Trey Songs or Jeremiah Trey, next 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:09.560 one Jodasy or one twelve, that's gotta be I was. 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.840 Taking I was taking the shot even get it out Jodason. 0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:18.600 Yeah we need Joas on him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 0:50:18.640 --> 0:50:21.120 you want to get the next one podcast or radio 0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:30.759 radio shy or Silk Silk so so he can next 0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:34.560 act next to say had come on Nasa Jadakiss nas 0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:41.279 Rihanna Beyonce. Oh take a shot, Oh yeah, take it 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:45.400 su Witness. I might wanted to take a shot to 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:47.960 want to go against those. 0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:54.359 Sisters old No, come on Whitney Houston or Amy wine 0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:55.680 House Hereston. 0:50:55.960 --> 0:51:02.200 Yeah that was Missy or Eve missing keep sweating, Johnny Gil. 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:04.719 Johnny Gil, No, take a shot? 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:08.600 Sorry, how would I say to cocause because he's from DC. 0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.480 But Keith, that's my brother, So I got take a 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:12.160 shot with that one. 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:16.680 Boys to Men or Drew. 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:28.080 Hill, Boys in Vogue or Destiny's Child in Vote Each 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:29.080 Town or Jagged Edge. 0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:36.399 Take a shot the next one. You're making his drink. 0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:41.080 Take a shot. Take a shot for real? Hold on, 0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:46.800 take a shot first, right, Okay, that was for the 0:51:46.880 --> 0:51:58.200 last shot for Row or Kanye Kanye fab or push 0:51:58.239 --> 0:52:11.319 your tee. Mm, I'm gonna drink. Let's drink. You got 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:15.520 your cheer? Oh this is my mom. 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:19.160 One is a little extra man, Riah Carrie or Janet Jackson, 0:52:19.280 --> 0:52:29.920 Janet Buster or eminem Buster. Okay ou tang or n 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:30.400 W A. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:41.680 N w A Wow house party or Friday uh Friday 0:52:41.880 --> 0:52:46.919 Yeah yeah that way too, Go ahead, sauce or double 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:47.279 x L. 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:53.040 Let me drink that. 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:59.000 Really I want to say double XL, but so too. Okay, 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:06.600 sours your original Hm, Tina Turtler or Vetha Franklin, Drink drink, drink, 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:13.719 drink drink that damn man, that's hard that was a 0:53:13.800 --> 0:53:14.360 long ass. 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:16.520 Was long? 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:17.080 Really? 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:17.520 Yeah? 0:53:18.280 --> 0:53:26.880 Yeah, I left, came back and still don't oh got it? 0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:33.160 Ye oh you lost? Yeah because you're used for twice 0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:38.400 or yeah you already said to around. Okay, but you're skipping, 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:39.200 skipping though. 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:43.120 You go back to it. Yeah, okay, Monica or brandy 0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:48.239 drink drink drink. Yeah, I won't have it. I don't 0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:50.200 have it right now. 0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:55.800 No, that's that's that's just get the time. Yeah, I 0:53:56.000 --> 0:54:00.560 do this, man, that's that's nothing. Okay, where you at? Okay, 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:01.719 let me get the drink first. 0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:07.439 Let's let's let's let's not move some fastest wee drink. Yeah, 0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:12.840 this is just a little bit. Oh man, excuse me 0:54:12.840 --> 0:54:21.800 a heartburn today? Digital or analog? Analog, me too, Tory 0:54:21.960 --> 0:54:28.239 Lanes for the weekend, toy thriller or off the wall. 0:54:29.160 --> 0:54:32.399 You said, thriller, thriller, off the thriller. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.320 thriller drake or pop Daddy. 0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:46.800 Drink drinking Timberland or Swiss Beak sprint Timberland, Timberland like 0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:47.880 that that. 0:54:50.320 --> 0:54:56.479 Marvin Gate or Smokey Robinson, gad Our Green or Teddy 0:54:56.520 --> 0:55:08.120 pinograd Our Green. Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson old Prince Jackson. Okay, 0:55:08.920 --> 0:55:13.080 you heard you got Michael Jackson. Yeah, we we we are, 0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:14.520 we are. That's why I'm trying to hear this. So 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.399 I'm kind of get and I got a node question 0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:23.399 for you. Oh yeah, Bobby Brown or I'll be sure, 0:55:23.520 --> 0:55:28.759 Bobby Brown. Oldest wedding in Sam Cook, Sam Cook. It's 0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:41.319 been bomb but I do all these your keys drink Drake, 0:55:46.320 --> 0:55:51.680 Stevie Wonder or Luthery Blue the vandos Me and Stevie Wonder. 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:57.960 You think Stevie could see Yeah, I think I think somebody. Yeah, yeah, 0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:01.960 I'm sorry. You can hear too many stories. We have 0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:02.800 to see for ourselves. 0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:07.480 We had we had the Osley brothers say that they 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.080 saw him crossing the street. I said, wait a minute, 0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.160 I bet you he's having a lot of fun because 0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:14.600 he seems like I need the humor. 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.400 I believe something listen across the street. 0:56:17.520 --> 0:56:17.880 I don't know. 0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:20.880 I'm twenty twenty visits. You know you could be legally 0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:22.640 have a heart to see. You still can see the 0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.359 shapes and every and that. Shaq said that he saw 0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.600 him pressed up. He said he saw him pressing the 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.759 button and elevator which just him and him want to 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:34.399 take brother said he crossed the street. The brother said, 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:35.439 he crosses cross the street. 0:56:35.840 --> 0:56:39.680 Oh, that's not a droke like note, and Shaq said 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:43.280 that he was he one time lived in the same building. 0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:47.040 He was already in the elevator. Was like, what's up, Jack? 0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:49.879 So I don't know, I'm listening to TV. 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:50.560 I'm with you. 0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:56.799 Hey, look the senses up. Yeah, sure this is. 0:56:59.000 --> 0:57:01.359 New addition or Jackson five. 0:57:01.800 --> 0:57:02.640 Oh I was. 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:12.359 Jackson five. Okay, t l C or s w V ah, 0:57:18.240 --> 0:57:26.560 thank you, we both do the last one. Loyalty or respect? 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:30.640 Loyalty You gonna explain what loyalty? 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:31.680 I don't. I don't know, man. 0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:33.120 It's it's like the respect thing. 0:57:33.360 --> 0:57:35.720 People can respect you for different different read they're scared, 0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:38.480 their view and all that. But I think the loyalty 0:57:38.600 --> 0:57:41.360 thing that that comes from within. It just comes from 0:57:41.440 --> 0:57:43.800 time and just you spending time with somebody and just 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.040 not wanting to see that person hurt and just you're 0:57:47.040 --> 0:57:49.400 gonna ride or die for that person. So loyalty for me, 0:57:50.560 --> 0:57:53.640 it's it's everything, you know what I mean? But yeah, respect, 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.680 respect is good to think. If you lawyer, respect comes 0:57:56.720 --> 0:57:59.919 with respect comes with yeah, because if you let's take. Yeah, 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:07.280 that was perfect answer, like that, No, I have to 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.640 action at one point, now I was like the Prince 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:15.920 of the hood. He couldn't do no wrong, Prince. 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:18.200 Prince or king. Let's give him the king showing that 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:25.280 proper respect. Then there was one record they was like, 0:58:25.400 --> 0:58:32.200 he's sold out, Prince. You're talking about no nor you said, prince, 0:58:33.200 --> 0:58:36.560 that's what you did about Prince the hood. Okay, he 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:39.360 was a king. This record comes out and this is 0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:42.560 the time, you know, this is the time off Daddy 0:58:43.120 --> 0:58:45.880 is killing him. So so this is my man, this 0:58:46.040 --> 0:58:50.439 is my man. I remember at that time he was like, man, 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:55.440 my man sold out, not me, I ain't. I'm saying that. 0:58:55.520 --> 0:59:00.120 People were saying right, right, right right because of it 0:59:00.320 --> 0:59:07.400 was And one of those records was you, well, well yeah, 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:12.320 but in the beginning, I remember Stanning seeing so much 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.360 slack that he was receiving. Was that something that you 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.240 and Simolin received as well, or we didn't receive, Not. 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.520 That it was a smash, but I'm pretty sure, like yeah, 0:59:24.640 --> 0:59:27.680 because because of how he grew up and where it 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:30.600 was and wrapping all that kind of stuff. But yeah, 0:59:30.640 --> 0:59:32.120 it worked out for us, and I think it was 0:59:32.240 --> 0:59:34.880 more of a commercial success for him and just put 0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:37.280 him on a different plateau. I always felt like, if 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.480 you want to change anything and anyone like gets get 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:44.440 on that plateau and then allow them to see your reality, 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:46.480 you know what I mean, then you can change you 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:50.040 can change them. So all the selling out stuff, nah man, 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.560 like like the dude, the dude, that's nas man. 0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:55.600 You can't ever ever say that dude. Yeah, of course, 0:59:55.760 --> 0:59:56.120 of course. 0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:59.880 But I just always wondered it was a commercial SI 1:00:00.000 --> 1:00:02.360 sess for us and and and all of us, so 1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:06.240 you know, just like, well, but back then, I can't 1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:08.360 lie even me, like what are you doing? 1:00:09.440 --> 1:00:12.880 He was my friend. It was only the fellas the lady, 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:23.600 what's going on? Why you doing? Why you got on 1:00:23.680 --> 1:00:24.720 another shirt? Why are you selling? 1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.960 Because that was doing the eraror where you know, you know, puffles. 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:30.680 Out and he was doing his thing. 1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:32.200 But he was smart about it, you know, he was 1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.280 still like, you've been not stepped to me, you know 1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:35.000 what the deal is? 1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:37.000 Now it seems like a genius move. 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:42.560 Back then, yes, yes, but but guess what, that's what 1:00:42.800 --> 1:00:46.560 makes those icons, those icons they can foresee the funture. 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:50.640 You got to look at matter. P uh, dame, puff 1:00:51.160 --> 1:00:52.120 you know all those guys. 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.400 That's why they are who they are because they already 1:00:55.480 --> 1:00:58.960 saw the business business part of it. We're looking at 1:00:59.040 --> 1:01:03.880 oh the this that nah, they they're they're looking twenty 1:01:03.960 --> 1:01:07.880 years ahead, fifteen twenty twenty years ahead. You know. 1:01:08.040 --> 1:01:15.760 That's another thing. It's like R and B can make 1:01:15.800 --> 1:01:21.040 it any kind of music, the most beautiful music. And 1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:24.560 we looked at and but you dudes is real dudes 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:31.000 on the streets. Like one thing I learned your R 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:33.400 and B, Like like, okay, obviously I came out with 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:38.000 Baptists and the one thing I've seen I remember having 1:01:38.000 --> 1:01:40.560 a show with you. I'm sure you don't remember, okay, 1:01:40.880 --> 1:01:43.640 but you had the handies just flying on stage. Yes, 1:01:44.440 --> 1:01:45.880 And I was just like, how the fuck do I 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:49.600 compeep with that? Like what the fuck? It blunts through 1:01:50.320 --> 1:01:54.600 I gotta DJ. People don't read at me. This motherfucker 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:58.560 had bros handies And I was like what I can't 1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:02.800 get on after that? But that it was like like 1:02:02.840 --> 1:02:05.560 I remember you and l L was like very hard, 1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:08.840 like very hard, like l L would he would change 1:02:09.200 --> 1:02:12.240 because remember we were thinking one Mike, you know, a DJ, 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:15.120 and I remember l L having a show and him 1:02:15.160 --> 1:02:17.600 giving out flowers and I'm having a show with you, 1:02:20.360 --> 1:02:22.680 and I was just like, this was I did not 1:02:22.880 --> 1:02:26.560 start researching research to you as we get closer to you, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:28.480 saying you're going to do this interview and research to you. 1:02:28.840 --> 1:02:30.960 And I realized that that was at every one of 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:31.520 your shows. 1:02:31.920 --> 1:02:33.280 I thought it was just at the show that I 1:02:33.360 --> 1:02:34.760 did with you that was that. 1:02:35.040 --> 1:02:40.040 You thought that was the panty shows, And then I 1:02:40.200 --> 1:02:44.480 was And then I realized, so was that like something 1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:48.200 you you strategically said that. No, it was multiple encounters. 1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:48.440 Man. 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:51.360 I never really strategically playing anything like that. But I 1:02:51.440 --> 1:02:54.120 always remember, you know, my mom back back in the 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:57.200 days of saying that, you know, the ladies throw hannies 1:02:57.240 --> 1:03:01.720 for Yeah, yeah, that's going on. So you know, I 1:03:01.920 --> 1:03:04.640 never I never really planned that, but I welcomed it. 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:10.120 Of course, I say no going back. So I mean, 1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:14.640 it was it was, it was, it was, it was 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:17.240 a situation. I was just happy that it was happening 1:03:17.280 --> 1:03:19.320 to me, you know what I mean. So, yeah, because 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:20.240 of your heroes in the. 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:25.520 Past, Yeah absolutely, l yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the man. 1:03:25.680 --> 1:03:26.160 That's the man. 1:03:26.560 --> 1:03:26.720 Man. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:29.800 He transcended it like he was, you know, a street 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:32.919 with it. Yeah, yeah, that was a good dude. Shout 1:03:32.960 --> 1:03:36.479 out there. L So, is there anybody that you wanted 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:38.040 to work with and you didn't get a chance to 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:41.720 work with? I really, really, what's the camera? 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:44.600 The camera help? I really want to work with Mary J. 1:03:44.760 --> 1:03:47.440 Block That is so dope. I really want to work 1:03:47.480 --> 1:03:48.920 with Marria Ja so you know what I mean. 1:03:48.960 --> 1:03:55.480 I actually and also Mariah Carrey. Okay, I maybe she 1:03:55.600 --> 1:03:59.560 was the first Nick Cannon. Anyway, we're gonna get. 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:06.080 You sitting around. Everybody been here. I know, I know 1:04:06.200 --> 1:04:08.680 how you feel. Come on, I'm a look at the camera. 1:04:08.960 --> 1:04:11.920 Mariah. I want to do Fire and Desire with you. 1:04:13.400 --> 1:04:15.280 Rick Jays and Tina Marie. 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:18.080 I want to do that with you. And I just 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:22.440 want to do anything with Mary J. Blige anything after that. 1:04:22.840 --> 1:04:25.280 Know, the two people that I've always wanted to do 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:29.439 something with they're no longer here. That's Michael Jackson and Prince, 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:31.800 but I was able to pay homage to them while 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.200 they were here. The first CD that I did is 1:04:34.760 --> 1:04:38.000 genuine a bachelor I did when Dove's Crime. The second 1:04:38.200 --> 1:04:40.120 I did one hundred percent genuine and Di she's out 1:04:40.160 --> 1:04:42.080 of my life. I wanted to just to pay homage 1:04:42.080 --> 1:04:43.960 to them while they were here, you know what I mean, 1:04:44.040 --> 1:04:45.520 just like you did with the flowers and all that. 1:04:45.640 --> 1:04:47.600 That's that's that's that's a great thing, you know what 1:04:47.640 --> 1:04:51.240 I mean. And so because they a lot of artists 1:04:51.240 --> 1:04:56.360 don't understand how how how much we inspire people on 1:04:56.480 --> 1:05:00.000 a daily basis. There's somebody right now in their garage, 1:05:00.200 --> 1:05:03.200 Joe whatever, on their laptop. Now I'm saying garage and 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:06.240 I'm thinking back in the days, but they on their laptop. 1:05:06.320 --> 1:05:08.160 They want to be the next Pharaal. They want to 1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:10.520 be the next Timberland. They want to be the next Kanye, 1:05:10.640 --> 1:05:12.720 they want to be the next whatever. And so those 1:05:12.760 --> 1:05:17.120 are the two guys that really truly inspired me, Like 1:05:17.320 --> 1:05:20.600 Prince and Michael inspired me to set out on this 1:05:20.760 --> 1:05:24.080 conquest and just to go all out and say this 1:05:24.360 --> 1:05:27.040 is what I'm going to do. There is no second plan, 1:05:27.400 --> 1:05:28.440 you know what I mean. So I didn't have no 1:05:28.520 --> 1:05:31.160 second plan. I was like, no, I'm doing this, this, this, 1:05:31.480 --> 1:05:34.320 this is it. They've got to meet Prince. Got to 1:05:34.360 --> 1:05:38.680 meet Prince one time. They heard the covers, both of them. Michael, 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:39.960 I didn't I've never. 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:42.640 Met I wanted to. That's that that was like when 1:05:42.720 --> 1:05:44.800 you say which one or whatever. 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:46.640 Michael is always first to me, you know what I 1:05:46.720 --> 1:05:50.000 mean after Motown twenty five. You know that bove that 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:52.160 goes off in your head or it turns off, turns 1:05:52.200 --> 1:05:55.040 on on, you know, in your head, to let you 1:05:55.160 --> 1:05:57.240 know this is what you're supposed to do. That's what 1:05:57.320 --> 1:06:00.960 happened at night. I was a kid like Prince, Yeah 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:02.360 you met him? Did he floating? 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:07.000 He floated in like he never like he never walked. 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:08.840 I feel like he had a hubble board back then. 1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:11.920 I was actually in what is it minutes in Minnesota, 1:06:11.920 --> 1:06:14.400 whys at Minnesota, Mintonka. 1:06:16.280 --> 1:06:18.720 Yeah, so at his club. 1:06:18.960 --> 1:06:22.040 Well, I was at a club and they said he 1:06:22.200 --> 1:06:24.400 was coming in to do a set, and so I 1:06:24.600 --> 1:06:25.480 just finished the show there. 1:06:25.560 --> 1:06:27.360 So I came in there and I was like, oh 1:06:27.480 --> 1:06:27.880 my god. 1:06:28.080 --> 1:06:30.920 You know, we all turned into fans when it comes 1:06:30.960 --> 1:06:32.800 to back back in the days, we all turned into 1:06:32.840 --> 1:06:34.680 fans when they come to Michael Jackson and Prince and 1:06:34.840 --> 1:06:40.000 Janet Jackson. So, uh, what happened was I walked in 1:06:40.240 --> 1:06:41.560 and I was in there, and I was like, yo, 1:06:41.680 --> 1:06:42.439 so when is he coming. 1:06:42.480 --> 1:06:45.680 It's like two o'clock in the morning. So he came. 1:06:45.800 --> 1:06:48.040 They was like here, here, here, and I was like, 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:50.600 oh man, I'm scared sweating to. 1:06:50.640 --> 1:07:01.400 See purple shade everything. I saw everything from the story. 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:05.680 So he came up right, and so listen, this. 1:07:05.800 --> 1:07:07.920 Is this is real, like like like I'm not playing. 1:07:08.000 --> 1:07:10.920 I'm not playing like I was up It was on 1:07:11.000 --> 1:07:14.360 the second second floor, and I think like he had 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:17.560 he had trap doors or something in the club or 1:07:17.640 --> 1:07:20.040 something like I think he was doing. 1:07:20.160 --> 1:07:23.400 He did this just to say, just just for people. 1:07:23.400 --> 1:07:26.200 Like myself and artists to say, this guy is different. 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:28.040 God, you know what I'm saying. 1:07:28.080 --> 1:07:31.800 So I'm walking and so he just I swear the 1:07:31.840 --> 1:07:36.960 guy he's just up up here. He just like, I'm serious, 1:07:37.120 --> 1:07:38.040 he just up here. 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:41.120 And I turned around here and you know the deep 1:07:41.200 --> 1:07:45.320 voice And did I remember somebody said. 1:07:45.240 --> 1:07:47.120 Did you just say Prince had a deep voice? Yeah, 1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:48.440 he got to get back to that. 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:49.880 Hold on. 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:54.360 So I remember somebody forgot who said something. 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:59.600 He said, don't look in his eyes, right, don't look 1:07:59.600 --> 1:08:01.480 at his eyes, don't looking at his. 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:10.800 Right, saying that's weird. Was like, this is different. So 1:08:11.840 --> 1:08:14.480 so he says, I don't remember what he said. I'm 1:08:14.480 --> 1:08:17.479 not gonna lie here. He said baby yo or gee 1:08:17.680 --> 1:08:21.360 or something, and I turned around and I see I 1:08:21.439 --> 1:08:27.439 see him, and I immediately say, you did not make 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:34.240 Oh my god, I'm doing it. Oh my god, it's 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:37.040 so great to meet you to right. 1:08:37.160 --> 1:08:39.519 Oh man, thank you man. Listen, you know I wanted 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:40.960 to be hobbing to you. I'm doing this. 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:43.280 He's looking at me like you I'm like this, Yo, 1:08:45.800 --> 1:08:50.439 I'm not looking at you. So because I'm still a fan, 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:55.400 you care, you know, so uh And he told me 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:58.960 he was like, I don't usually let I don't usually 1:08:59.080 --> 1:09:01.880 like people to do my and I was like, I 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:02.479 was hurt. 1:09:03.240 --> 1:09:06.400 My heart dropped. And then he said, but you did 1:09:06.439 --> 1:09:11.759 a good job. I was like, that was here's the magic, 1:09:11.920 --> 1:09:14.000 here's the magic. So my people was. 1:09:14.000 --> 1:09:16.400 There and I was like, yo, he because he was 1:09:16.560 --> 1:09:20.920 like like I was, so I was talking to him right, so, 1:09:22.080 --> 1:09:23.800 thank you dog or that and I was like, yo, 1:09:23.920 --> 1:09:24.680 did you hear that more? 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:28.920 I turned back around. That's gone, it's gone, disappeared just 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:33.479 like he did. He didn't stay around. He did like 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.439 that was that's my friend's story. And that's the true story. 1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:37.720 Bro. 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:44.720 God. Everybody whoever we asked, who ever met prince, they 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:48.400 always say got like they got a crazy story. I've 1:09:48.439 --> 1:09:51.080 never met Prince and I've never met him. Wow, I've 1:09:51.120 --> 1:09:56.600 never met Tupac neither. Wow, I did you met? Was 1:09:56.640 --> 1:09:58.280 it when you said you guys were dealing with de 1:09:58.479 --> 1:09:59.559 Bro that time? 1:10:00.080 --> 1:10:02.800 Yeah? The first time I met Tupac. He came in 1:10:02.840 --> 1:10:05.840 the studio and we were in uh uh I know, 1:10:06.000 --> 1:10:12.200 you know, Mannhattan Center Center. Okay right, okay, yeah, so 1:10:13.360 --> 1:10:17.519 uh Davante. Uh we were in a studio with Davante. 1:10:17.680 --> 1:10:20.080 It was me static and everything, and Madonna was in there. 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:23.719 Donald was in there. He was messing with madonnad's I guess, 1:10:24.000 --> 1:10:25.960 yeah there was Yeah, I get in. 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:31.880 A business, yody, but yeah, but but yeah, he came. 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:34.320 He came in. She didn't go back. It's true. Once 1:10:34.360 --> 1:10:36.200 she went black, she did not go to that. 1:10:37.720 --> 1:10:40.680 He came in like YEO, what's up and all that. 1:10:40.840 --> 1:10:42.280 So that was like one of my first times. 1:10:42.280 --> 1:10:45.519 And then my boy that wrote a Pony, he was 1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:48.479 a big, huge fan of two five. 1:10:48.880 --> 1:10:51.080 He walked in there and he was his eyes was 1:10:51.160 --> 1:10:55.840 like he was gazed at him. I was like, wow, dude, 1:10:56.000 --> 1:10:57.920 like so yeah he was. He was like, what's up, 1:10:57.960 --> 1:10:59.920 little man? I was like, yeah, you don't even know 1:11:00.160 --> 1:11:00.519 only you. 1:11:06.600 --> 1:11:06.800 Yeah. 1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:11.080 He was always a cool dude though. Man, always a 1:11:11.160 --> 1:11:11.719 cool dude. 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:12.000 Man. 1:11:12.520 --> 1:11:14.280 It was a couple of times that I met him 1:11:14.280 --> 1:11:18.800 because we were always connected with death Row Bro. I 1:11:18.960 --> 1:11:20.880 was like, I was like one of the I was 1:11:21.000 --> 1:11:25.759 the first artists with Danny Boy on his first single, 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:29.320 That's Me on the hook of Danny Boy's first single. 1:11:29.920 --> 1:11:33.240 So and Danny Boy was the first artist off of 1:11:33.400 --> 1:11:35.439 Death Row and so that's how all of. 1:11:35.520 --> 1:11:38.800 Us really like connected, you know what I mean. Is 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:40.880 it true that she was a big eiast party the night? 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:41.320 Yeah? 1:11:41.800 --> 1:11:47.519 Yeah I heard the shots, dude, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it 1:11:47.600 --> 1:11:50.960 was was we were and a lot of people having 1:11:51.000 --> 1:11:53.640 that story. Now all the other specification and stuff I 1:11:53.680 --> 1:11:56.760 don't know about, but it wasn't because it was you know, 1:11:57.479 --> 1:11:58.439 somebody fighting or that. 1:11:58.840 --> 1:12:01.160 It was like a fire has it and so there. 1:12:01.120 --> 1:12:05.080 Was too many people evacuated the evacuated the party, and 1:12:05.200 --> 1:12:09.840 so you know, it was so hard getting on your 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:11.920 cars for some for some reason. 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:15.360 And so if you look on the internet, they'll they'll 1:12:15.479 --> 1:12:15.800 show you. 1:12:15.920 --> 1:12:18.360 They'll they'll show they say the name this person was there, 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:21.040 and they'll show us dancing and all that kind of stuff. 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.000 And yeah, yeah, we actually heard heard the shots, but 1:12:24.320 --> 1:12:26.120 we didn't think it's la, this is this is what, 1:12:26.479 --> 1:12:28.560 this is what happens. And so we went back to 1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:31.000 this hotel called the Nico, but we used to call 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:31.519 the Negro. 1:12:34.520 --> 1:12:36.240 Absolutely absolutely, and. 1:12:36.360 --> 1:12:38.200 So we was over there and that's when we found 1:12:38.240 --> 1:12:40.880 out what happened and who it was and all that. 1:12:41.200 --> 1:12:42.479 So, yeah, it was ill. 1:12:42.680 --> 1:12:45.600 It was a crazy night, man, But the night before that, 1:12:45.760 --> 1:12:48.679 it was just man, it was just fun. It was very, 1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:53.920 very much fun. Yeah, but we were there, me Missy Timberland, Aliyah, 1:12:56.360 --> 1:12:59.439 there's a lot of Yeah, I believe, ah, I believe, 1:12:59.520 --> 1:13:01.240 I know miss she was there. It was me, Missy 1:13:01.320 --> 1:13:05.320 because we came together, me, Missy tim I believe Timberlin 1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:05.720 was there. 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:09.680 But yeah, we came together. And you said you heard it. 1:13:09.840 --> 1:13:10.280 We heard it. 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:10.840 We heard it. 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:14.639 We heard it, yeah, because we stayed until that happened, 1:13:15.280 --> 1:13:17.240 like we were evacuated. Everybody was like. 1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:20.800 Okay, yeah, leave da da it's too much and all that, 1:13:21.080 --> 1:13:22.759 and we heard it, but we never. 1:13:23.400 --> 1:13:25.200 Thought about it. We never because we was on the 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:27.479 other side. We were on the side that they were 1:13:30.920 --> 1:13:33.920 pulling up the cars or something, and so we actually 1:13:34.000 --> 1:13:34.280 heard it. 1:13:34.439 --> 1:13:36.639 We actually heard it. And then how did that feel? 1:13:36.760 --> 1:13:36.920 You know? 1:13:37.960 --> 1:13:40.680 Although, like you know, I kind of engaged with the 1:13:40.760 --> 1:13:43.240 East Coast to West Coast a little bit on the record, 1:13:43.479 --> 1:13:45.920 but I never got the experience none of that. Yeah, 1:13:46.320 --> 1:13:50.479 how did you feel like knowing that? Because I never 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:53.800 until Biggie and Tupac, like we didn't think that Beef 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:55.680 would have got that false real like it was a 1:13:55.760 --> 1:13:59.479 battle wrap. It wasn't really about like testing a person's code, 1:13:59.520 --> 1:14:02.479 so testing a person, city texting a person, period. It 1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:03.960 was just battle rap. It's just like, yo, I think 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:05.960 I'm better than you, something to say I'm better than you. Right, 1:14:06.160 --> 1:14:08.559 But this was the first time that it turned How 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:11.120 did that feel for you? Not only knowing what's going on, 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.200 but you knew Biggie too, right, Yeah, yeah, you knew 1:14:13.240 --> 1:14:18.280 Biggie you got to meet Tupac. Yeah, So how did 1:14:18.320 --> 1:14:20.920 that feel for you? Personally? Like you like like damn 1:14:21.080 --> 1:14:25.439 like on both sides and knowing where it went. I'm 1:14:25.520 --> 1:14:28.479 just gonna be a hundred with you man. Like after after. 1:14:28.479 --> 1:14:32.519 Tupac, we always was like as far as us as artists, 1:14:32.560 --> 1:14:34.519 I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a singer, I'm 1:14:34.560 --> 1:14:37.800 an RVRS. I ain't in that, But I was. 1:14:37.800 --> 1:14:39.880 Always like why are they out there? 1:14:40.720 --> 1:14:43.800 Why? Yeah, I was like, why are they out there? 1:14:43.920 --> 1:14:46.200 But you know, it was what it was. You know, 1:14:46.640 --> 1:14:49.600 wars was given and everything was just partying and all that. 1:14:49.760 --> 1:14:53.800 But it made us, not only me, just everybody that 1:14:54.080 --> 1:14:57.400 were that that was involved. As far as on an 1:14:57.520 --> 1:15:01.240 entertainment level, it just made us realize like, look, this 1:15:01.479 --> 1:15:05.080 is real now, you know, so we gotta really you know, 1:15:05.200 --> 1:15:08.439 we actually thought after pop like we thought it was 1:15:08.760 --> 1:15:11.840 subside a little bit and all that, but after that 1:15:12.040 --> 1:15:15.320 we really were like, yo, I didn't go out to LA. 1:15:15.320 --> 1:15:18.160 For a long time and you lived out there. Well 1:15:18.200 --> 1:15:18.400 I had. 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:20.920 I had a place out there later later on, but nah, no, 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:25.760 I frequented a lot, but I didn't have no place 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:26.160 out there. 1:15:26.200 --> 1:15:29.679 I remember me going out there, and after that happened, 1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:33.720 there was still like four years later out there, ninety eight. 1:15:33.760 --> 1:15:36.600 I think apprehensible, right, You're like, no, no, no, I 1:15:36.640 --> 1:15:39.439 remember a record label was physically not let me land 1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:41.600 without security, right, they would have as soon as I 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:44.160 landed they were because I don't know if they had 1:15:44.160 --> 1:15:45.760 the serance policy on me. I don't. I don't know 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:47.519 at that time, right, you know, they probably did. 1:15:48.640 --> 1:15:51.160 It was crazy, so it was crazy they would not 1:15:51.320 --> 1:15:54.600 let me travel without that without that. 1:15:54.800 --> 1:15:56.120 Yeah, same, just how was it? 1:15:56.360 --> 1:15:57.800 I was it here again? 1:15:58.040 --> 1:15:58.960 We're R and B artist. 1:15:59.000 --> 1:16:03.320 It totally saying like that, But we we we always 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:05.200 had our intentnas up because we didn't know at that 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:06.960 point what it was. It was like, I don't give 1:16:06.960 --> 1:16:09.880 if you a RB areist said ROB and B rap 1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:10.759 or whatever, we're. 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:11.040 Gonna get you. 1:16:11.240 --> 1:16:14.160 You know what I mean. But for you know, it 1:16:14.400 --> 1:16:16.400 was one of those situations where we just had to, 1:16:16.600 --> 1:16:18.200 you know, just keep our eyes open. 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:20.200 You know, we always stay alert and. 1:16:20.240 --> 1:16:23.599 Make sure that we're on our square and not slipping. 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:26.880 Right now, they're saying, like rappers, if you're a rapper, 1:16:27.000 --> 1:16:29.720 that's one of the most dangerous jobs in America. Absolutely. 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:32.920 Do you feel like do you feel like that statement 1:16:32.960 --> 1:16:37.200 should be famous people? Is being the most dangerous job 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:39.599 in the mirror because because if a person will try 1:16:39.640 --> 1:16:41.240 to get me, I think that same person will try 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:44.479 to get you. Is that fear or they're gonna say, man, 1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:46.519 genuine NA girl back in the day? 1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:52.240 Nah, But I don't think it's the same thing. 1:16:52.320 --> 1:16:55.200 I think, you know, the distinction between rap and R 1:16:55.200 --> 1:16:59.719 and B is the distinction, Like it's totally separates crowd. 1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:03.240 Yeah it's not the same, but you still got to 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:06.040 keep your head on swivel. You can't think it's sweet, 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:08.040 you know what I mean, because you don't know what 1:17:08.200 --> 1:17:10.840 you've done. Just like you just now said that that's real, 1:17:11.439 --> 1:17:15.679 Like like that stuff happens somebody. You don't know what's 1:17:15.720 --> 1:17:18.439 going on. Social media made it work and people think 1:17:18.520 --> 1:17:21.240 they know you even more I do say it. Then 1:17:21.320 --> 1:17:24.120 it could be a woman that you never even knew. 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:26.559 She just follows you for your whole life, and her 1:17:26.720 --> 1:17:28.800 man is sitting there thinking, oh, this is you know 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:32.320 what I mean, You probably never even met up, but 1:17:33.160 --> 1:17:33.600 that's with you. 1:17:34.280 --> 1:17:36.400 He sees that, he sees you somewhere lacking. 1:17:36.760 --> 1:17:38.840 And you know, I don't understand when guys do that, 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:41.639 Like like at the end of the day, if that's 1:17:41.720 --> 1:17:44.960 something that's just happening between your woman and yourself, why 1:17:45.080 --> 1:17:47.680 you met at the guy like don't don't like for 1:17:47.800 --> 1:17:51.920 what like check that, check that, don't don't mess with it. 1:17:52.000 --> 1:17:53.519 I don't know you, you know what I mean, You 1:17:53.520 --> 1:17:57.120 ain't my friend, So I don't know why guys do that, 1:17:57.240 --> 1:17:58.320 But a lot of guys do that. 1:17:58.520 --> 1:18:02.240 That's that's happened to someone confront you and say, man, 1:18:03.600 --> 1:18:08.400 I heard that make skip was like that had to happen, like. 1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:10.519 There had to be a dude that blame you want 1:18:13.760 --> 1:18:17.880 you want, but you ain't gonna give mysel close to me. 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:19.920 You say you wan. 1:18:22.840 --> 1:18:24.120 Not in person. That's never happened. 1:18:25.160 --> 1:18:30.639 Okay, talking about it, of course that that has happened. 1:18:30.680 --> 1:18:35.000 But again, I don't know you, dude. It's not my friend. 1:18:35.240 --> 1:18:41.160 I don't know you. Like shake, I ain't hearing that. 1:18:41.560 --> 1:18:43.640 I mean whatever, I got guys to go do what 1:18:43.720 --> 1:18:44.120 I need. 1:18:44.080 --> 1:18:46.519 Them to do. Oh my god, Okay, what happened. That's 1:18:46.560 --> 1:18:51.840 that's that's that's that's hating you right now. You ain't 1:18:51.840 --> 1:18:52.679 gonna say sorry. 1:18:52.479 --> 1:18:55.639 G you want angry boyfriend. 1:18:56.720 --> 1:18:57.599 I don't even know how. 1:18:59.400 --> 1:19:01.000 Jamie. Can we got some time? Yeah, we need to 1:19:01.000 --> 1:19:06.120 get some times right, say it too? Yeah, that definitely 1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:09.840 has happened, bro. Yeah, but that's your job is to 1:19:09.920 --> 1:19:11.519 make music and make. 1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:13.559 You ain't hit me. You didn't get me, you didn't 1:19:13.560 --> 1:19:15.880 give me, you didn't give me, because that's that's your job, 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:17.679 is to make people have babies through your music. 1:19:18.200 --> 1:19:24.160 You don't know how many people, but it's true babies. 1:19:24.200 --> 1:19:26.280 You're responsible besides your own you know what I'm saying, 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:28.759 because of the music you make. You making the music 1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:35.160 right to get people in and hopefully I mean, that's 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:37.120 what R and B always was. It was like yo, 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:39.559 always have been, always will be. You know what I mean. 1:19:40.040 --> 1:19:40.800 This is what we do. 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:43.640 We try to We try to make the music that 1:19:44.400 --> 1:19:47.640 allows you to feel where you are and just you know, 1:19:48.680 --> 1:19:49.720 make love and all that. 1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:51.840 You know what I mean, because that's what R and 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:53.720 B is. Man, We're not trying to tell you to 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:54.160 go shoot. 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:57.560 Nobody know. We got this, money, we got this, we 1:19:57.680 --> 1:19:59.720 got that. But you know, at the end of the. 1:19:59.800 --> 1:20:01.880 Day, man, it's all about love. It's all about respect. 1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:03.960 Thank you, David appreciation, you know what I mean. Like 1:20:04.720 --> 1:20:06.280 my foul music, I used to make people just come 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:07.439 up to me and say, man, I'm went to jail 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:07.960 and your ship. 1:20:08.120 --> 1:20:11.640 I was like damn, Like damn, why like people come 1:20:11.720 --> 1:20:16.080 up to you and say people got to come up 1:20:16.080 --> 1:20:18.080 to you and be like Joe j you want three 1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:20.479 of my kids because of you. I didn't get a 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:23.639 lot of respect from the Brothers until I did same 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:25.840 O G, Same G. 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:27.840 Yeah, you gonna stop hating. 1:20:28.040 --> 1:20:33.000 After After that, the Brothers was like you girls, He's like, yeah, 1:20:33.000 --> 1:20:38.599 you got a girl, but you are right. 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:43.840 I said, I'll take whatever. 1:20:44.120 --> 1:20:45.320 It's all good, it's all good. 1:20:45.360 --> 1:20:48.280 But yeah, man, I didn't get too much love until, 1:20:48.479 --> 1:20:51.479 you know, especially from the brothers, until after same o 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:52.880 G you know what I mean. 1:20:53.640 --> 1:20:57.559 So you're telling me you had shows in the beginning, 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:01.400 the shows this ninety percent females. 1:21:01.800 --> 1:21:04.559 Ninety five Yeah, I was saving more than that ninety 1:21:04.640 --> 1:21:05.960 five yeah. 1:21:06.280 --> 1:21:06.479 Yeah. 1:21:06.800 --> 1:21:10.439 Yeah. That's a good thing though, I mean yeah, because 1:21:10.439 --> 1:21:15.080 there's no violence, absolutely no nothing, love nothing but love 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:20.160 nothing nothing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ninety five percent man, 1:21:20.280 --> 1:21:24.120 like back in the days. Yeah, man, because it was 1:21:25.600 --> 1:21:28.160 you know, a lot of the promoters that we were 1:21:28.240 --> 1:21:32.559 dealing with, they knew how to, you know, piece it together. 1:21:33.040 --> 1:21:35.360 That's why when you said earlier that he was on 1:21:35.479 --> 1:21:37.800 to show me, I have been on those shows. I 1:21:37.920 --> 1:21:41.439 was on the shows with Lil Wayne, right, yeah, Cash, 1:21:41.520 --> 1:21:43.080 when I was like, what the hell. 1:21:42.960 --> 1:21:45.720 Do y'all got me on the show? This vice versa. 1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:50.479 Yeah, and so that absolutely happens, man. So that's why 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:53.000 when you said that, I can relate. I understood that, man. 1:21:53.080 --> 1:21:55.040 But that's my lovers and friends. It's a good concert 1:21:55.280 --> 1:21:57.759 because great, it's like six different stages. 1:21:57.920 --> 1:22:00.360 Absolutely, everyone's crowd is going to go to they're a 1:22:00.360 --> 1:22:04.400 different stage. Yes, I believe I had dip set on, 1:22:05.000 --> 1:22:07.920 which made sense on on the stage that I performed 1:22:08.920 --> 1:22:10.840 and who else was on my stage? Who was there? 1:22:11.680 --> 1:22:16.640 Who else was on my stage? Hinky? Like it was 1:22:16.680 --> 1:22:19.720 like they had like you know, my my this thing 1:22:19.840 --> 1:22:24.040 is we like like my kind of era hip hop 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:26.479 when you hit the stage, what's that R and B stage. 1:22:28.320 --> 1:22:28.960 I really don't. 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:36.120 I don't really, I don't really no, I really don't remember. 1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:39.400 I think it probably was though. I think they had 1:22:39.439 --> 1:22:42.479 it set up for I think Chinky was on my stage. 1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:47.679 That's my stage, well on my stage, unless winning around 1:22:50.520 --> 1:22:55.360 it was traveling over. I mean I think that. 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:58.519 I think the time thing I think they tried to 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:02.799 do also as far as like like the years nineties, eighties, 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:05.280 uh like the areas that eras. 1:23:05.600 --> 1:23:07.240 That's what I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's 1:23:07.240 --> 1:23:10.559 probably what I didn't actually know. That was then Usher's concept. 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:15.840 You didn't know that, yeah, because even on the Flyers 1:23:15.880 --> 1:23:19.679 gotsher biggest hell on the top and that's the song 1:23:23.680 --> 1:23:28.080 something you own, tell you something. They were so professional. 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:31.840 I was like I was like, wait a minute, I 1:23:31.920 --> 1:23:32.800 got a big usher up. 1:23:33.320 --> 1:23:33.960 Oh yeah, that was. 1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:39.160 They knew were to get the cards from this point, 1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:42.800 like you can tell that it was an artist running 1:23:42.800 --> 1:23:44.960 the show. I didn't see. I tried to get I 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:47.920 saw everybody but Okay and loud Kim. I didn't get 1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:52.000 to see the little kimp from h we were on 1:23:52.080 --> 1:23:59.800 the same stage. You want to say that even if 1:24:03.840 --> 1:24:07.000 you could tell that was afterwards, I knew. I noticed 1:24:07.040 --> 1:24:11.000 that artists want to take care of another artist. We 1:24:11.080 --> 1:24:12.519 don't really we don't really want to. 1:24:15.080 --> 1:24:17.320 Be put in that position where we can't can't take 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:18.400 take care of each other. 1:24:18.520 --> 1:24:21.160 So I'm guessing he knows the needs. He knows, Yeah, 1:24:21.160 --> 1:24:22.800 he knows what it is. It's there ever been a 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:24.639 time you went to a show and was like, man, 1:24:24.680 --> 1:24:26.120 this ship is not to put together. Let me get 1:24:26.120 --> 1:24:30.240 the fuck out of here, or you just yeah, I 1:24:30.320 --> 1:24:35.280 walked out of some ship before after I performed. 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:38.200 Yeah, ok, yeah, yeah, because like like, if you pay me, 1:24:38.360 --> 1:24:42.120 you already, Yeah, I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do. 1:24:42.560 --> 1:24:44.760 You know, even if it's unorganized, you don't real to 1:24:44.760 --> 1:24:47.000 give a fucking just I'm gonna you got my money. 1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:50.400 I gotta do. 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:52.960 Yeah, I don't stay. 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:56.360 I don't stay now, especially with tours and everything that 1:24:56.439 --> 1:24:58.720 I'm on, I usually never stay. I go do what 1:24:58.800 --> 1:25:01.600 I'm supposed to do because pretty much we tour with 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:06.120 each other a lot throughout the summers and all that 1:25:06.200 --> 1:25:08.760 kind of stuff. So I've seen pretty much everybody's show, 1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:09.720 So I don't. 1:25:10.120 --> 1:25:12.320 I don't really stay a lot. I go do what 1:25:12.360 --> 1:25:12.880 I'm gonna do. 1:25:15.240 --> 1:25:17.120 Let me ask you what's on your writer? 1:25:21.560 --> 1:25:24.400 That's a specific I actually came up with a show 1:25:24.840 --> 1:25:27.200 called Rituals and Riders, and I was trying to come 1:25:27.320 --> 1:25:32.519 up with, you know, saying, you know what outlandish things 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.320 that some of us artists come up with to have 1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:40.360 on our rider. So and there's there's really Now I'm 1:25:40.360 --> 1:25:42.720 sorry that that part of it is that you're not 1:25:42.840 --> 1:25:43.800 going to be entertained, but. 1:25:43.840 --> 1:25:46.800 That all water juices. 1:25:49.240 --> 1:25:55.280 Just a yellow I know, I know you're talking abouts 1:25:55.320 --> 1:26:00.320 and snapples on his job. You don't. 1:26:02.000 --> 1:26:02.280 I don't. 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:02.800 I don't do that. 1:26:02.960 --> 1:26:06.040 You don't have a crazy rider. I went to seafood 1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:09.559 a little bit. That's about his crab legs. That's about 1:26:09.600 --> 1:26:11.960 it's a little crazy, a little crazy. It's a little crazy. 1:26:12.479 --> 1:26:18.640 Look the room smelled different. You got to receive the 1:26:18.680 --> 1:26:19.280 panties after that. 1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:27.040 Yeah, about to I went to Japan after l The 1:26:27.120 --> 1:26:32.320 promoters loved me so much after because he must have 1:26:32.439 --> 1:26:35.240 had the worst wader everybody. God, you had to get 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:38.080 green apples, Oh damn in Japan. 1:26:38.240 --> 1:26:39.320 I guess that's exclusive. 1:26:39.800 --> 1:26:43.560 So I guess like red apples is standard in the 1:26:43.640 --> 1:26:45.720 world and green apples it's not something like that. 1:26:45.760 --> 1:26:48.080 That might be backwards. But he had I'm doing some 1:26:48.200 --> 1:26:52.880 crazy ship and I had Cigars Hennessy at the towns 1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:57.800 a Hennessy drinker that's cigars Hennessy and water. Yeah, and 1:26:57.880 --> 1:27:00.599 maybe a Gatorade. Gatorade at one point. 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:01.320 That was it. 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:05.880 I stepped when I went out to l So you're 1:27:05.920 --> 1:27:07.559 telling me you don't got no crazy sit on your 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:12.720 work crab. Okay, okay, okay, that's that DC ship. Yeah, 1:27:14.040 --> 1:27:18.400 kid brought them all maryland Lord them crabs. 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:21.680 How has it been seeing your your audience from the 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:24.040 early nineties grow up with you? 1:27:24.040 --> 1:27:31.880 You know what? Throughout my my tenure in this business, man, 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:34.040 it's always been a blessing for me to just see 1:27:34.080 --> 1:27:37.120 the people grow with me. And I've always said I'm 1:27:37.160 --> 1:27:40.439 not going to be the artist now that's trying to 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.360 do the things that the young cats is doing right now, 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:44.799 because I think that's corny. 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:47.400 How I would never do that, you know what I mean. 1:27:47.479 --> 1:27:50.599 So I think the people that's been with me throughout 1:27:51.200 --> 1:27:54.360 my time in this business, of course, they're still here, 1:27:54.560 --> 1:27:55.120 you know what I mean. 1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:59.320 My my my h age thing is like twenty five 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:00.240 and whatever. 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:03.559 You know, I'm at thirty on. So I don't, I don't, 1:28:03.640 --> 1:28:07.360 I don't. I don't really buy into, you know, just 1:28:07.600 --> 1:28:10.439 doing what everyone else is doing. I think that, you know, 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:13.400 as an artist, you got to continue to build with 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:16.559 the people that's been following you for the year. Yeah, 1:28:16.600 --> 1:28:20.120 your foundation is there, so cater to them, don't try to. 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:22.880 They got who they have, they got what they want, 1:28:22.920 --> 1:28:24.960 they got who they like. Don't try to be that, 1:28:25.320 --> 1:28:29.479 you know, continue to move on your your your legacy 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:33.120 and keep moving in your time and people will support you. 1:28:33.240 --> 1:28:34.880 You just got to do the things that they they 1:28:35.200 --> 1:28:38.400 they feel as interesting and you know, and and and 1:28:38.600 --> 1:28:41.840 and doing the things that you've been doing. But at 1:28:41.880 --> 1:28:46.760 that point, like when the people constantly you know, support you, 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:49.960 they have to realize that at the end of the day, 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:53.439 you should not change. They shouldn't change, they should go. 1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:54.799 They're going to be there. 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:57.200 And hopefully they'll they'll just still support you. 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:01.200 How is it having a cult? That's what it seems like. 1:29:01.600 --> 1:29:05.000 No cold coke, hope I did, I wish I did, 1:29:05.240 --> 1:29:08.000 I wish I did. Loyal folk, a loyal following. Some 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:09.719 people might take it as a colt. We just said earlier, 1:29:09.960 --> 1:29:13.519 yeah about the followers, and what did you say? Sometimes 1:29:13.600 --> 1:29:16.320 it's a color religion is what I know? That you 1:29:16.400 --> 1:29:19.559 have followers when you when you're out twenty five years, 1:29:19.960 --> 1:29:22.600 most people say in five years they tired of this 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:26.840 artist all ship two years? Right now six months? You 1:29:26.920 --> 1:29:27.360 know what I mean? 1:29:27.439 --> 1:29:27.720 Right now? 1:29:27.840 --> 1:29:30.800 Six months? This is supposed to be music music. For 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:33.920 you to have such an illustrious and you know career 1:29:34.000 --> 1:29:37.280 that lasted that long, it has to be like see 1:29:37.320 --> 1:29:39.479 it like you go, you're going back to Minnesota. You 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:42.240 probably see that same dude that was there ten years ago, 1:29:42.280 --> 1:29:43.080 and that shit is dope. 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:47.320 Seeing that same fans and they're growing, they having kids now, 1:29:47.400 --> 1:29:50.519 like that shit has got to be amazing feeling. 1:29:50.720 --> 1:29:51.160 How does it. 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:55.960 Totally feels great to have have the following that you have, man? 1:29:56.160 --> 1:29:59.880 And just when you say the cult thing and all that. 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:05.799 That's that's great, man, that's great because it's a testament 1:30:05.920 --> 1:30:10.320 to you know, what you've done throughout your career and 1:30:10.439 --> 1:30:13.000 the feelings and the people that you've touched, and so 1:30:13.320 --> 1:30:16.400 that's that's vital. That's important in order for you, for 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:20.160 you to have longeviy. So so as long as you 1:30:20.320 --> 1:30:23.479 do that, I always tell these young cats like, try 1:30:23.520 --> 1:30:27.120 to do time this music. Don't don't don't do flavor 1:30:27.120 --> 1:30:31.000 of the month, do timeless music, because I've seen them coming, 1:30:31.040 --> 1:30:31.680 I've seen them go. 1:30:32.479 --> 1:30:33.960 I've seen them coming and I've seen them go, and 1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:37.000 I'm like, wow, this is credibly when you've seen them 1:30:37.040 --> 1:30:39.280 arab they were cocky, they were very. 1:30:43.720 --> 1:30:47.200 You the old there like okay, all right because I 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:50.479 was told that too, like early on, and that's what 1:30:50.960 --> 1:30:55.000 you know. Gauge gauged me in and I was just like, okay, 1:30:55.560 --> 1:30:59.479 just always just be you also, but also remain the 1:30:59.600 --> 1:31:02.960 humble person that you are, because it can be here 1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:05.240 today and gone tomorrow. One of the one of the 1:31:05.360 --> 1:31:08.720 craziest things that happened to me was when I went 1:31:08.800 --> 1:31:10.479 up to Sony and I asked them, I was like, 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:11.080 release me. 1:31:11.640 --> 1:31:14.200 You know what I mean, you know how it is when. 1:31:14.280 --> 1:31:19.560 A new whole team comes in, takes takes over a 1:31:19.680 --> 1:31:22.519 label and they're not even talking about you. They don't 1:31:22.560 --> 1:31:25.120 even have any sign you. They didn't sign you, so 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:27.519 they don't have no to. 1:31:29.920 --> 1:31:33.320 So I'm looking, I'm just like, God, wait, man, this 1:31:33.520 --> 1:31:35.280 happens like every five years and then. 1:31:36.920 --> 1:31:39.720 And so I went up there, and I went up 1:31:39.720 --> 1:31:41.320 there and I was like, you know what, y'all not 1:31:41.400 --> 1:31:43.559 messing with me. Yeah, I didn't use those words. 1:31:43.680 --> 1:31:46.160 You know what I mean, So let me go. 1:31:46.680 --> 1:31:48.519 Let me do what I do. Y'all ain't you know? 1:31:48.560 --> 1:31:51.320 I don't mens me. And when that happened. 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:54.120 The first time that I felt it was when we 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:57.120 did a show and some of those artists from that 1:31:57.280 --> 1:31:59.080 label on the show, and the people that I. 1:31:59.160 --> 1:32:03.760 Knew that were the reps or whatever. They was like, man, 1:32:03.800 --> 1:32:04.640 we can't work with you. 1:32:04.840 --> 1:32:07.840 Man, you can't because the label said this and the 1:32:07.920 --> 1:32:12.160 label said that, and you truly, as an artist feel naked. 1:32:12.320 --> 1:32:14.439 You don't because we came up in the era where 1:32:14.520 --> 1:32:17.880 everything was taken care of it for us. 1:32:18.600 --> 1:32:21.559 And so like when that happened, I was like, it's real, 1:32:22.320 --> 1:32:22.920 It's real. 1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:26.599 So there's never been another time there's never been a time. 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:31.439 Where you feel so naked in the business. 1:32:31.479 --> 1:32:34.439 And I was just looking at Unsung I think it was, 1:32:35.000 --> 1:32:37.639 and Money said the same things. He was like, once 1:32:37.760 --> 1:32:41.040 you do that, like you, Yeah, you don't know where 1:32:41.080 --> 1:32:42.800 to go, you don't know who to talk to, You 1:32:42.960 --> 1:32:45.639 don't know. It feels like you just got shut out 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:48.880 your house, you know. So one of the questions you 1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:51.320 forgot to ask some quick time with Slive is major 1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:52.080 all independent? 1:32:52.720 --> 1:32:57.400 What do you prefer? Wow? 1:32:59.320 --> 1:33:03.880 I still I still prefer the major, but not the 1:33:03.960 --> 1:33:05.000 three sixty. 1:33:04.880 --> 1:33:05.960 That comes with the major. 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:08.760 Like and that's just because the time that I was 1:33:09.040 --> 1:33:11.720 I was in the business. The independent thing is a 1:33:11.800 --> 1:33:16.040 great thing, but you have to be a special individual 1:33:16.200 --> 1:33:18.800 to be independent because you got to be willing to 1:33:19.280 --> 1:33:21.760 put in that work and your own money. You put 1:33:21.840 --> 1:33:24.240 up your own money and risk it. And you know, 1:33:24.400 --> 1:33:26.280 for me, I came up during the time where everything 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:30.160 was taking care of for you. And you know, now, 1:33:30.200 --> 1:33:32.040 I'm not trying to start over like that. I'm just 1:33:32.160 --> 1:33:34.120 blessed to be in a position that I'm in to 1:33:34.240 --> 1:33:37.320 continue to do the things that I'm doing, shows, TV 1:33:37.640 --> 1:33:39.679 and all that kind of stuff because of the history 1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:43.880 that I've created. So and you have a gold independent album, right, 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.160 I have a yeah, gold independent album. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes, 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:52.479 it was a man's thoughts. Yeah, that's the last chance 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:54.080 you Yeah, yeah, that's that's. 1:33:54.560 --> 1:33:58.120 Most people celebrate an independent album at fifty thousand to 1:33:58.200 --> 1:34:01.559 one hundred thousand, break that because most of even less. 1:34:01.720 --> 1:34:04.519 I mean, you sold thirty independent. That's true, it's a 1:34:04.560 --> 1:34:06.080 lot of money. But what I'm saying is if you 1:34:06.400 --> 1:34:10.240 if you was a platinum artist before and you went major, 1:34:11.160 --> 1:34:14.320 it's like that was the numbers from fifty thousand to 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:18.200 one hundred thousand. You know, obviously anything more as a plus, 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:20.640 but the fact that you had a chance to do that, 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:25.120 what gold for one hundred thousand that you that's really saying. 1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:28.240 I don't know right right there, because I was with 1:34:30.160 --> 1:34:32.080 we got the same name because we fell out. 1:34:32.080 --> 1:34:33.519 I don't even know. I don't want to say the name, 1:34:33.920 --> 1:34:37.040 but we did. We did a goot good job. So 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:40.720 you know, for me to continue on after that was 1:34:40.800 --> 1:34:44.080 a big situation for me. But I realized, like, once 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:48.120 you get to a search certain point and you've made 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:51.639 your statement and you've done a lot in the business, 1:34:51.760 --> 1:34:53.720 you're pretty much on cruise control. If you know, what 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:56.799 you're doing. And I've been on cruise control for fifteen 1:34:56.880 --> 1:34:58.240 years now, you know what I mean? 1:34:58.320 --> 1:34:59.519 Ten fifteen years. 1:34:59.560 --> 1:35:02.200 So when people ask me, are you coming out with anything, 1:35:02.280 --> 1:35:03.880 I'll be like, yeah, but I'm gonna do it when 1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:06.960 I need to do it or I feel it. You know, 1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:10.920 I'm not gonna do it just because you know you're 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:12.600 saying I should do it. And a lot of my 1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:15.360 friends and people that around me don't understand that. But 1:35:15.479 --> 1:35:17.400 it's not for you to understand. You gotta feel it, 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:19.880 you know. I remember back in the days where we 1:35:20.080 --> 1:35:21.280 used to go in the studio. 1:35:21.000 --> 1:35:23.120 We would lock it out for two months. We won't 1:35:23.160 --> 1:35:24.840 do that no more. They don't do that no more. 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:28.000 It's probably spending two hundred thousand doing that. Yeah about 1:35:28.000 --> 1:35:32.439 that with the Fool budget is different remember the Reils. Yes, yes, 1:35:32.800 --> 1:35:34.120 it's carry a little doff around. 1:35:34.439 --> 1:35:37.479 You know what I'm saying, Like, we just different back then. 1:35:38.280 --> 1:35:39.639 There's a lot of money back then. 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:42.200 To be wasted. Back then, we. 1:35:42.200 --> 1:35:45.360 Couldn't punch department was taking extra money. The good part 1:35:45.360 --> 1:35:48.720 about that analog is we learned not to punch in Like, yeah, 1:35:48.880 --> 1:35:52.160 but these kids make your work. Yeah, I can hear 1:35:52.240 --> 1:35:54.720 when you punched in like, you have to be good. 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:57.320 You have to be always say good. I always say 1:35:57.360 --> 1:36:00.840 analogue was ill and you picked that I said earlier. Yeah, 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:04.160 because me and FN have this debate and I think 1:36:04.200 --> 1:36:06.080 we were pretty much on the same side. Is that 1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:08.200 because back in the days, if you wanted to do 1:36:08.360 --> 1:36:09.800 a record with me or I want to do a 1:36:09.840 --> 1:36:11.960 record with you, I would have to go to d 1:36:12.080 --> 1:36:13.840 C or you would have to come to New York. 1:36:14.280 --> 1:36:18.400 We have to sit in both filled out the vibe, 1:36:18.640 --> 1:36:19.800 you know what I'm saying, And depending on. 1:36:19.880 --> 1:36:21.920 How we vibe, that's depending on how great the record 1:36:21.960 --> 1:36:22.439 would come out. 1:36:22.600 --> 1:36:24.120 Do you think that's something that's missing out here? 1:36:25.640 --> 1:36:29.439 Absolutely in you saying that I was one of we 1:36:29.560 --> 1:36:35.960 were one of the artists during that era that had 1:36:36.080 --> 1:36:40.920 that that that had that ability to do that. NAS 1:36:41.040 --> 1:36:43.479 and me when we did that, he was in LA 1:36:43.920 --> 1:36:45.840 I was yeah, I mean he was in New York. 1:36:45.880 --> 1:36:48.360 I was in LA. Oh. Yeah, I didn't do that. 1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:52.559 We never even had met until the video shoot Get 1:36:52.680 --> 1:36:54.559 the Funk out of Here, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:36:54.439 --> 1:36:56.080 We we wasn't in the same and it was physically 1:36:56.160 --> 1:36:58.400 sending the reels in the mail and that was that 1:36:58.520 --> 1:36:58.720 was the. 1:36:58.760 --> 1:37:01.640 First time, not first time, I'm pretty sure, but that 1:37:01.840 --> 1:37:04.880 was that era when people didn't have to be what 1:37:05.040 --> 1:37:08.040 he think, and of course actually crossing into digital at 1:37:08.040 --> 1:37:11.920 that time, yeah, into it, so so yeah. I mean 1:37:11.960 --> 1:37:14.639 I heard him, he was in the studio. I didn't 1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:15.960 see him what he but I heard he was like, 1:37:16.240 --> 1:37:19.640 what was up? All you guys were live? Yeah, like 1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:22.240 for real, talked about even him doing stuff like that. 1:37:22.600 --> 1:37:25.240 So so so we did you know? I was in 1:37:25.560 --> 1:37:27.599 l A and he and he was in New York. 1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:36.639 You gotta shot shots, right, Let's go. God, damn, let's go, Horner. 1:37:36.880 --> 1:37:39.760 This is sucking me up. So what is your favorite part? 1:37:40.080 --> 1:37:44.599 Is it making the music or performing the music? Performing? 1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:48.559 I could I could tell your answer already get pennies 1:37:48.560 --> 1:37:53.760 throwing him. I'm gonna be honest with you, go said, 1:37:54.680 --> 1:37:59.240 when you on that stage, I see I see you 1:37:59.320 --> 1:38:00.000 having so much. 1:38:00.040 --> 1:38:02.720 That's fun, but not only that. Yes, I see that 1:38:02.840 --> 1:38:05.200 that's your dope man. That's where I'm comfortable at. 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:05.880 Yeah, I see that. 1:38:05.960 --> 1:38:08.360 That's your dope man. That's where I'm totally comfortable. I 1:38:08.400 --> 1:38:13.320 was telling my brother everybody, sister over there, Gussie, we 1:38:13.479 --> 1:38:16.559 were talking in in the I can't I can't let 1:38:16.680 --> 1:38:21.240 y'all know what I'm doing. But she they know that 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:24.320 I'm I'm actually a little like reserved. 1:38:24.680 --> 1:38:27.879 I don't like to use shy. Yeah, I'm a little reserved. 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:30.040 And I never like to come out of my comfort zone. 1:38:30.600 --> 1:38:31.120 You know what I mean. 1:38:31.240 --> 1:38:34.639 So stage is your stage is my comfort zone. 1:38:34.920 --> 1:38:37.280 You know what I'm saying. So I can be silly, 1:38:37.520 --> 1:38:41.880 hen be dumb, I can be serious. All all things 1:38:43.200 --> 1:38:43.920 is doable on. 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:45.920 The stage, you know what I'm saying. But I hate 1:38:45.960 --> 1:38:53.439 the studio. I can't stand the studio. Bro tires like 1:38:53.520 --> 1:38:58.439 that too. My boy, he's like that too, living there. 1:39:00.520 --> 1:39:04.280 But I can't stand the quicker. I can't get out 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:06.439 quick enough. Who's somebody who make you feel comfortable in 1:39:06.479 --> 1:39:10.320 the studio, something that makes you feel no one's ever 1:39:10.400 --> 1:39:11.960 in the studio. When I'm in the studio, it's only 1:39:12.080 --> 1:39:15.280 me and the engineer. Wow, not even the producer. I 1:39:15.360 --> 1:39:18.960 put tim out. I put everybody is like she doesn't 1:39:18.960 --> 1:39:21.120 like to anybody. I'm telling you, that's. 1:39:21.160 --> 1:39:23.400 Unless your cancer, that's what your history. 1:39:23.439 --> 1:39:25.960 Yeah, I don't need you can't be in here. 1:39:26.000 --> 1:39:26.280 I don't. 1:39:26.400 --> 1:39:27.840 I don't need you to tell me when I'm off. 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:30.000 And then I don't like to whole have a whole 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:31.760 bunch of people there, and then if I do something 1:39:31.800 --> 1:39:32.240 they say. 1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:35.920 I don't like that. 1:39:36.600 --> 1:39:40.920 I don't need you to reconcile that I'm good. I 1:39:40.960 --> 1:39:41.519 don't need you. 1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:43.560 You here to finished product. That's all they need you 1:39:43.600 --> 1:39:43.800 to do. 1:39:44.360 --> 1:39:44.679 I don't. 1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:46.840 I don't like nobody in the studio. 1:39:46.920 --> 1:39:50.760 If you a writer, right, give give give me the 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:57.360 track whatever, the local track, yeah and get out. Yeah, 1:39:57.520 --> 1:39:57.920 I'm good. 1:39:59.760 --> 1:40:02.559 But when you come back, you be like, whoa. That's 1:40:02.640 --> 1:40:06.240 what it is with me. Is anybody you ever work 1:40:06.320 --> 1:40:09.320 with and you wanted to work with got to work 1:40:09.320 --> 1:40:13.160 with them? It was disappointed? No never, It's pretty much 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:17.720 no never never, Like, yeah, I haven't worked with too 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:20.639 many people. Pop boy, that boy had a party. 1:40:25.240 --> 1:40:30.639 Of course, Sibilians see yeah, I got my baby girl. 1:40:30.680 --> 1:40:35.320 I love her and miss her daily. Yeah no, no, 1:40:35.880 --> 1:40:38.640 no again, because it's not too many people that I 1:40:38.720 --> 1:40:40.600 will allow in the studio that I will work with, 1:40:41.080 --> 1:40:43.320 because if it's something that I didn't like, I just 1:40:43.520 --> 1:40:45.000 didn't do it, you know what I mean. 1:40:45.120 --> 1:40:48.479 So I heard you say that Missy called you one 1:40:48.600 --> 1:40:53.360 day and said that she had a dream that Aliah 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:57.320 forgave you yes, yes, and we were all wondering, like Aliah, 1:40:57.840 --> 1:40:59.760 what was what did Missy mean that a Liah for 1:40:59.800 --> 1:41:01.639 gave for not leaving Devarte on time? 1:41:01.840 --> 1:41:03.880 No, no, no, no, she had nothing to do with 1:41:05.080 --> 1:41:10.040 at all like that. That's prior to to us meeting her, 1:41:10.720 --> 1:41:13.720 Missy Temple. It was the beef with It was just 1:41:13.960 --> 1:41:16.600 me and her like during during that time. Here's what 1:41:16.680 --> 1:41:20.479 the issue was. We all was, you know, like a family, 1:41:20.880 --> 1:41:27.519 you know, Missy Timberland, her myself, magoole player tweet, all 1:41:27.560 --> 1:41:27.800 of us. 1:41:27.880 --> 1:41:29.360 I love how you keep naming all of them. I 1:41:29.400 --> 1:41:30.600 got loved that. I love that. 1:41:30.720 --> 1:41:33.240 I love that got I love that. I gotta get 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:34.519 lays hear me. 1:41:34.760 --> 1:41:39.400 I respect it. But her and I weren't seeing that. 1:41:39.600 --> 1:41:41.600 I you know what I mean. And I think it 1:41:41.720 --> 1:41:44.479 had a lot more to do with her loyalty to 1:41:44.600 --> 1:41:48.320 her uncle then it had to do who you are 1:41:48.320 --> 1:41:50.160 beefing with at the time or yeah, a little bit 1:41:50.560 --> 1:41:56.560 cool with her uncle Barry Hankerson as uh, he was 1:41:56.600 --> 1:42:00.519 the record head and he was the company, was my manager. 1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:03.880 I just decided to leave because of whatever reason, you 1:42:03.960 --> 1:42:06.080 know what I mean. And so you know, of course, 1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:09.320 her loyalty is to her family, and so you know, 1:42:09.520 --> 1:42:11.760 that's where pretty much stemmed from. We ain't had no 1:42:11.920 --> 1:42:14.559 beef now is a woman. I ain't beef for no girl, 1:42:14.880 --> 1:42:16.680 you know what I mean. But it was just one 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:21.880 of those things where our time had had, you know, separated, 1:42:22.160 --> 1:42:25.120 you know, and so I always wanted to make sure 1:42:25.160 --> 1:42:27.760 that we were cool. But you know, I never got 1:42:27.800 --> 1:42:30.679 the chance and an opportunity, you know, to explain whatever 1:42:30.800 --> 1:42:34.719 it was because things things that was happening. I'm pretty 1:42:34.720 --> 1:42:37.280 sure she was just being told whatever it was, the 1:42:37.400 --> 1:42:41.880 narrative of whatever it was with me, but it was 1:42:41.920 --> 1:42:44.880 a lot behind that, and I think at the end 1:42:44.920 --> 1:42:47.920 of the day she understood. But Missy came and she 1:42:48.080 --> 1:42:51.040 told me one time she had a dream that Aliah said, 1:42:51.240 --> 1:42:51.960 don't worry about it. 1:42:52.040 --> 1:42:56.120 She forgive me, and I cried, that's crazy shot for that. 1:42:56.479 --> 1:43:03.519 Yeah, yeah, going here with the shop of YPO. 1:43:05.200 --> 1:43:06.880 What do you think Ali would be if she was 1:43:07.040 --> 1:43:09.360 still alive in this in this stay. 1:43:10.000 --> 1:43:12.360 I would want her to be on the level where 1:43:12.560 --> 1:43:18.640 where uh B is, I said, yeah, But yeah, I mean, 1:43:18.680 --> 1:43:20.760 you just never you just never know. I know that 1:43:20.920 --> 1:43:23.800 she was headed toward that direction, like she was doing 1:43:23.840 --> 1:43:26.960 the movies. She was doing of course she was doing music, 1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:30.160 she was dancing and all that, so you know, we 1:43:30.400 --> 1:43:32.560 just will never know, and that's the bad thing about it. 1:43:32.680 --> 1:43:35.240 But I believe she would god probably be because her 1:43:35.280 --> 1:43:37.000 work work ethic was crazy. 1:43:37.600 --> 1:43:39.400 She would she would. 1:43:39.600 --> 1:43:42.599 I mean she was doing everything, man, So I think, 1:43:43.120 --> 1:43:44.760 you know, as long as she kept that up, and 1:43:44.880 --> 1:43:48.120 she was believable of course in movies and all that 1:43:48.240 --> 1:43:50.920 kind of stuff. So she had every every bit of 1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:53.560 talent that was needed for her to uh, you know, 1:43:53.760 --> 1:43:58.160 persevere and continue to move forward in that, in that genre, 1:43:58.320 --> 1:44:01.080 in that and in that entertainment field. 1:44:01.160 --> 1:44:04.400 So who knows, man, I think she would have been big. 1:44:05.360 --> 1:44:07.760 I would hope she would have been bad. I think so, yeah, 1:44:07.840 --> 1:44:14.880 she would have been. How was it being in the 1:44:14.960 --> 1:44:23.760 Juana Man not Juwanna man? 1:44:23.840 --> 1:44:23.960 Man? 1:44:25.000 --> 1:44:29.840 It was a great time and a horrible time for me? 1:44:30.479 --> 1:44:34.240 Wow, because that was first of all, it was a 1:44:34.280 --> 1:44:37.840 great time because it was like my first movie, and 1:44:38.040 --> 1:44:42.040 so I was nervous as hell. So we all remember 1:44:43.200 --> 1:44:49.880 how and still is like how beautiful and and and 1:44:50.160 --> 1:44:51.839 big Vivica Foxia. 1:44:52.439 --> 1:44:55.640 So here's my first movie and I'm her boyfriend. I 1:44:55.720 --> 1:44:56.120 don't know. 1:44:58.360 --> 1:44:59.920 What to do, how to do it? 1:45:01.880 --> 1:45:05.120 I got a kiss and sing, So, dude, I'm nervous 1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:07.320 as hell, And so I'm like, do I. 1:45:07.479 --> 1:45:09.800 Stick my tongue out of my mouth? Do I do 1:45:10.000 --> 1:45:10.559 I kiss her? 1:45:10.640 --> 1:45:11.040 For real? 1:45:11.560 --> 1:45:14.719 Do you're not asking anybody? No, I'm in my head. 1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:18.600 I'm like, so you just because I'm thinking movies, I'm like, 1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:19.000 make it. 1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:23.240 Believable, nigga, make it believable, Make believble. So I said, 1:45:23.439 --> 1:45:25.640 do I do this? Do I not do I? 1:45:26.120 --> 1:45:28.400 So she came in and there I happened to ask her. 1:45:28.400 --> 1:45:31.800 I was like, look, I don't know what to do 1:45:32.080 --> 1:45:34.120 on this record. You asked her her. 1:45:34.200 --> 1:45:34.759 I mean, she's. 1:45:36.640 --> 1:45:39.640 I don't know what to do, like I'm nervous, you 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:43.840 vivicualt fox like like she and she she was so 1:45:44.120 --> 1:45:44.680 cool though. 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:49.080 She made it so easy. She said kiss me. I said, 1:45:49.160 --> 1:46:04.639 oh my god, go ahead, go ahead. I was like, okay. 1:46:04.920 --> 1:46:08.040 But still, but even even even with so did you 1:46:08.080 --> 1:46:14.519 tongue her down there? But even with wanting to be 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:18.000 with that, it's still awkward because it's still six seven 1:46:18.120 --> 1:46:21.519 eight cameras is so awkward. So how did that happen? 1:46:21.920 --> 1:46:28.000 I probably fumbled the first time because I really didn't 1:46:28.200 --> 1:46:30.840 I really didn't know everything else I was cool with. 1:46:30.960 --> 1:46:33.479 But I was like, okay, you gotta. I think she's 1:46:33.560 --> 1:46:35.240 with some guy I forgot to do. 1:46:37.400 --> 1:46:39.479 Nine. I think it was a guy named sixty nine 1:46:39.560 --> 1:46:44.160 or something. I think she was no, not no, no, no, 1:46:44.360 --> 1:46:46.439 it was like a guy. So I think I was like, well, 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:48.719 I mean that's easy, that's probably notice. 1:46:48.960 --> 1:46:52.439 But a gang member. No no, no, he was on, 1:46:53.040 --> 1:46:54.320 was saying he was on. He wasn't on. 1:46:55.120 --> 1:46:55.640 I don't think so. 1:46:56.920 --> 1:46:59.160 But again, this is my first movie. 1:46:59.280 --> 1:46:59.800 I don't know. 1:47:00.280 --> 1:47:03.080 I don't know how they do it, dude, I don't know, 1:47:03.280 --> 1:47:03.720 you know what I mean. 1:47:03.800 --> 1:47:07.040 So so she was just like kiss me. I was like, 1:47:08.000 --> 1:47:19.719 got you. Yeah. 1:47:20.960 --> 1:47:23.640 It was great for me man as far as that 1:47:23.880 --> 1:47:24.720 first start of it. 1:47:25.120 --> 1:47:28.920 But on that set, my mom passed yeah, so so 1:47:29.240 --> 1:47:30.280 so it was. It was. 1:47:30.600 --> 1:47:31.839 It was great. Not only. 1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:38.720 What's her name, Kim Wayne's her brother passed on on yeah, 1:47:38.880 --> 1:47:39.680 and so it was. 1:47:40.000 --> 1:47:40.160 It was. 1:47:40.280 --> 1:47:42.439 It was. It was a crazy set, but we got 1:47:42.479 --> 1:47:46.400 through it and everybody was you know, and it's one 1:47:46.439 --> 1:47:48.280 of those movies that you got to go back and 1:47:48.320 --> 1:47:50.759 look at you know how you Yeah, it's one of those. 1:47:50.680 --> 1:47:52.320 Movies you got to go back and look at me, like, oh, 1:47:52.400 --> 1:47:53.080 this was great. 1:47:53.200 --> 1:47:53.840 This was dope. 1:47:53.960 --> 1:47:58.040 So yeah, but yeah, man, it was good and then 1:47:58.120 --> 1:48:01.960 it was bad for me, and it was that. 1:48:02.240 --> 1:48:03.920 Was that the time you got your love for acting? 1:48:04.479 --> 1:48:06.519 Or do you have the love for acting? Way before that? 1:48:06.760 --> 1:48:12.320 I've really never had a love for acting. Yeah before, Yeah, 1:48:12.720 --> 1:48:13.040 I really. 1:48:13.840 --> 1:48:17.800 I mean, I'm just now like opening up to a 1:48:17.880 --> 1:48:18.200 lot of it. 1:48:18.280 --> 1:48:21.479 I've been in parks and recreation, I've been in I 1:48:21.560 --> 1:48:26.120 did a couple of movies and Honey and the Moesha 1:48:26.320 --> 1:48:29.000 and all that, and you know, I knew that just 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:31.840 came with it. I just wanted the stage, you know 1:48:31.880 --> 1:48:34.960 what I mean, all that stuff came with it. I didn't. 1:48:35.000 --> 1:48:37.400 I didn't know about that. You know, that was new 1:48:37.439 --> 1:48:39.280 to me, is it? Because like you know, they have 1:48:39.400 --> 1:48:42.679 you hurry up and wait like that type of ship. Well, 1:48:43.320 --> 1:48:48.080 you know, especially on movie Sesson, your hurry up and 1:48:48.200 --> 1:48:51.759 wait and I'm in patient a lot of times, especially 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:54.000 back then. I'm just learning a lot of patients. You know, 1:48:54.240 --> 1:48:57.960 having seven girls, you're gonna learn pay seven girls. Yeah, 1:48:58.200 --> 1:49:01.719 so so so I've learned to have a little more patience, 1:49:01.760 --> 1:49:04.160 But early on I had none, Like if you get 1:49:04.240 --> 1:49:07.200 my food wrong, and then the drive through, like I 1:49:07.400 --> 1:49:11.040 just told you the right order, Like why like why 1:49:11.120 --> 1:49:13.479 don't you have the right Like I was very impatient, 1:49:13.680 --> 1:49:15.840 Like I had to learn patience like. 1:49:16.640 --> 1:49:20.599 Early on, you know what I mean. So yeah, because 1:49:22.240 --> 1:49:27.360 movie set is real. Yeah, movie sech is real. Absolutely well. 1:49:27.479 --> 1:49:27.679 Yeah. 1:49:27.680 --> 1:49:29.200 I did plays and stuff like that. 1:49:29.479 --> 1:49:31.800 Man, But you know, that was really one of the 1:49:31.920 --> 1:49:35.599 things that I wanted to open up as far as 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:38.559 uh going into movies and stuff like that. 1:49:38.680 --> 1:49:42.200 Because with plays, it's so dope, is it? One take? 1:49:43.160 --> 1:49:45.400 That's the thing. You feel more comfortable on the stage 1:49:45.960 --> 1:49:46.679 with the plays. 1:49:46.800 --> 1:49:49.720 I was like this, I can do more environment you 1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:53.000 got an ad lib. Like with with movies and all 1:49:53.040 --> 1:49:55.599 that kind of stuff. Sometimes you can't even stutter. Sometimes 1:49:55.600 --> 1:49:58.680 you can't even say your line twice or something just. 1:49:58.720 --> 1:50:00.760 To get on to the next do different takes and 1:50:00.840 --> 1:50:03.120 do it the same way. And that's not me. 1:50:03.360 --> 1:50:05.960 I've never been in the ABC one, two three. It's 1:50:06.040 --> 1:50:10.240 always on the whim. Just I don't practice. I don't 1:50:10.280 --> 1:50:12.400 do none of that. Like I practice. 1:50:12.720 --> 1:50:17.639 Let me practice. I need to listen. Even to this day, 1:50:17.640 --> 1:50:18.639 I don't practice. 1:50:19.120 --> 1:50:23.000 Like like like my singers and dancers and band members 1:50:23.080 --> 1:50:24.160 they go to sound check. 1:50:24.200 --> 1:50:27.400 I don't go to sound checks sound like somebody I. 1:50:27.479 --> 1:50:34.800 Know here man like like like we're gonna wing it, 1:50:35.040 --> 1:50:36.920 like we're gonna wing it because I think the best 1:50:37.040 --> 1:50:41.240 things creatively come to you when you winging it, like 1:50:41.479 --> 1:50:43.720 all the ABC one two three, like of course, if 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:46.720 you're doing certain things, I guess it calls for it. 1:50:46.840 --> 1:50:50.200 But me as an artist, give me tell me how much. 1:50:50.080 --> 1:50:52.240 Time I got put the clock right there, but thirty 1:50:52.280 --> 1:50:54.720 minutes for the front match, I got it. Y'all got 1:50:54.800 --> 1:50:57.639 the songs? Yeah, you know what songs to play? Let's 1:50:57.680 --> 1:51:00.920 go and you depend on them now these jay we 1:51:01.080 --> 1:51:03.080 have a DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a DJ. 1:51:03.200 --> 1:51:04.200 We do have the song list? 1:51:04.400 --> 1:51:07.120 Yeah, just a song just yeah yeah yeah. So so 1:51:07.280 --> 1:51:11.000 let me do look at my cues boom all that. 1:51:11.600 --> 1:51:14.600 You all that, but you're edit accordingly depending looking at 1:51:14.640 --> 1:51:14.920 the time. 1:51:15.640 --> 1:51:19.479 Absolutely so T T G. We never never get t 1:51:19.600 --> 1:51:21.960 T here we gotta get yeah, we never get a 1:51:22.240 --> 1:51:24.880 shot shop woman warming up, warm it up. 1:51:26.400 --> 1:51:33.280 's h First off, I know you probably said this 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:36.880 sorry for other places, but for. 1:51:36.960 --> 1:51:41.240 Our fans, oh here we go, get to you. No, no, 1:51:41.640 --> 1:51:45.000 we have we had tank, we had tank, take tank. 1:51:45.200 --> 1:51:48.800 But for our fans, we don't know what happened right, 1:51:50.240 --> 1:51:52.800 and we can't see why it can't be worked out. 1:51:54.320 --> 1:51:56.599 So just just I mean, I probably know, I don't 1:51:56.600 --> 1:51:59.479 I don't think I know, but our fans to the 1:51:59.600 --> 1:52:02.960 fans out there that don't know, who's probably never heard 1:52:03.080 --> 1:52:06.880 your side of the story, it's really to tell the truth. 1:52:07.080 --> 1:52:09.280 I don't even know a lot of the stuff that 1:52:09.400 --> 1:52:12.040 the guys has been saying, But it has never been 1:52:12.200 --> 1:52:14.800 because of them. It has always been because of me 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:17.560 fallen out of love with music for a while, you 1:52:17.640 --> 1:52:18.080 know what I mean. 1:52:18.160 --> 1:52:20.519 So that's just what it would have been. I don't 1:52:20.600 --> 1:52:21.760 even know how they explain it. 1:52:21.840 --> 1:52:25.800 I think people form their own opinions when it comes 1:52:25.880 --> 1:52:29.640 to that, but that is so wrong when you know 1:52:30.200 --> 1:52:33.639 you truly don't talk to one another to find out 1:52:33.760 --> 1:52:36.760 certain things. But at the end of the day, me, 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:42.439 I've always felt like listen and if I get that 1:52:42.760 --> 1:52:45.960 love back for that, then and then I'll do it. 1:52:46.200 --> 1:52:47.360 First of all, if. 1:52:47.240 --> 1:52:49.599 I had the love or one wanted to do an album, 1:52:49.600 --> 1:52:51.960 I'd have done it for myself first. I haven't came 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:55.800 out with the CDs and since since TGT or whatever, 1:52:56.400 --> 1:52:57.759 so it's never. 1:52:57.720 --> 1:53:01.640 Been about tie or tag, you know what I mean. 1:53:01.720 --> 1:53:05.240 Or nothing like that. It's just I don't never want 1:53:05.280 --> 1:53:08.360 to cheat my audience ever, you know what I mean, 1:53:08.560 --> 1:53:10.840 If I can't give you one hundred and ten percent, 1:53:11.040 --> 1:53:14.000 so I am not going in there. If I don't 1:53:14.080 --> 1:53:18.040 feel it, I'm not going in there. And sometimes it 1:53:18.439 --> 1:53:21.519 other it takes people a certain amount of time to 1:53:21.560 --> 1:53:24.520 get in there and get that love and that appreciation 1:53:25.080 --> 1:53:28.960 for what they're doing and just to want to give 1:53:29.040 --> 1:53:32.280 their best and have that competitive spirit. For a while, 1:53:32.320 --> 1:53:34.960 I didn't have that competitive spirit anymore. So I just 1:53:35.080 --> 1:53:37.599 did not want to go in there and cheat my audience. 1:53:38.040 --> 1:53:40.800 Had nothing to do with them, you know what I mean, 1:53:40.920 --> 1:53:44.600 nothing to do it. But again that's why when you 1:53:44.760 --> 1:53:48.439 say that, you never heard that from me, because I'm 1:53:48.479 --> 1:53:51.040 not fighting you. I'm not going to fight you know 1:53:51.240 --> 1:53:54.800 the people out there that think something or whatever, you know, 1:53:55.000 --> 1:53:57.960 until you hear it from my mouth, like that's what 1:53:58.080 --> 1:53:59.600 it's going to be, that's what it is. 1:54:00.200 --> 1:54:03.960 But no, it's never been. For Tie, that's my boy, Tank, 1:54:04.120 --> 1:54:04.880 that's my boy. 1:54:05.400 --> 1:54:07.559 You know, it is what it is. But I don't 1:54:07.560 --> 1:54:10.040 want to cheat them, and most of water, I don't 1:54:10.040 --> 1:54:13.479 want to cheat the people and was supposed to be 1:54:13.560 --> 1:54:19.599 the Yeah, I actually I started the whole thing, the concept, 1:54:20.280 --> 1:54:22.280 and of course it wasn't TGT. We came up with 1:54:22.360 --> 1:54:26.519 that as we was working, but with a plane tank 1:54:27.680 --> 1:54:28.360 I think that way. 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:29.960 I don't remember. I don't remember. 1:54:30.040 --> 1:54:34.400 But Tie wasn't even our first my first choice. 1:54:34.600 --> 1:54:37.600 It was a vant levant was doing a record, was 1:54:37.680 --> 1:54:39.320 coming out with a record, and so he was like, 1:54:39.360 --> 1:54:42.400 I can't uh, you know whatever, and so I was like, 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:47.000 come on, let's call TIE. And so it was formulated 1:54:47.160 --> 1:54:50.040 like in two thousand and eight, but it never was 1:54:50.120 --> 1:54:55.240 brought to fruition to what two thousand and thirteen, fourteen whatever. 1:54:55.280 --> 1:54:55.600 It was. 1:54:56.400 --> 1:55:00.840 So yeah, but once that half then a lot of 1:55:00.920 --> 1:55:01.760 other things. 1:55:01.600 --> 1:55:05.120 Came in in the play. So I was just like, ah, man, okay, 1:55:05.280 --> 1:55:10.000 money issue, yeah, yeah, yeah, And for for me, that 1:55:10.280 --> 1:55:12.800 is one one of that is one of the issues 1:55:13.120 --> 1:55:16.440 early on, right, I don't think you get into a 1:55:16.480 --> 1:55:18.680 group to say that you're better than the group, like 1:55:18.800 --> 1:55:21.920 if you're if you feel that way, stay so yeah, 1:55:22.480 --> 1:55:23.880 you know what I'm saying, You don't. You don't get 1:55:23.920 --> 1:55:25.840 into a group to say, oh, I'm bigger or whatever. 1:55:26.040 --> 1:55:29.080 And so that that rubbed me the wrong way first 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:33.160 of all. But I was still like Okay, let's let's 1:55:33.280 --> 1:55:35.240 It took a little convincing, you know what I mean, 1:55:35.280 --> 1:55:36.280 But I was like, okay. 1:55:36.120 --> 1:55:39.080 Let's let's do this. But it was the second time 1:55:39.880 --> 1:55:41.680 that the same thing happened. 1:55:41.360 --> 1:55:43.920 Because I was already through the first time and I 1:55:44.200 --> 1:55:49.160 entertained it the second time, and once that subject in 1:55:49.320 --> 1:55:52.800 that specific situation came up and it was again that 1:55:54.000 --> 1:55:55.480 I was like, Okay, I'm good. 1:55:55.760 --> 1:55:57.840 I'm good, dog. I mean, you can answer this. I'm 1:55:57.880 --> 1:56:01.040 good except way you want. But when you say that 1:56:01.120 --> 1:56:03.040 he got more money, are we talking about for the 1:56:03.120 --> 1:56:04.080 upfront advanced? 1:56:04.200 --> 1:56:04.240 No? 1:56:04.440 --> 1:56:08.240 No, no, no, for sure show It was like a 1:56:08.320 --> 1:56:10.800 show thing and like the upfront. 1:56:10.960 --> 1:56:13.960 But then but here's what I presented to present it, 1:56:14.520 --> 1:56:16.400 you know, the second go round, I was like, Okay, 1:56:17.120 --> 1:56:20.240 we can do that, but when the bills come in, you. 1:56:20.360 --> 1:56:24.440 Pay that same percentage that you're getting. It can't be 1:56:24.920 --> 1:56:27.520 can't be equal when the bill come in. 1:56:27.880 --> 1:56:28.400 You know what I mean. 1:56:31.800 --> 1:56:34.720 So we're gonna keep it funky, keeping funky. So So 1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:37.440 once that was discussing, I was like, first of all, 1:56:37.560 --> 1:56:39.480 I'm cool, bro, I'm cool. 1:56:39.560 --> 1:56:42.960 I don't I'm cool. I'm comfortable, so I don't need 1:56:43.040 --> 1:56:46.240 to do it and so I've always been a true 1:56:46.280 --> 1:56:49.320 believer the things that the way that things start out 1:56:49.440 --> 1:56:52.680 is the way that things finished. And so with me 1:56:53.280 --> 1:56:57.120 already being on the edge after the first time going 1:56:57.200 --> 1:56:59.840 into the second time, it's being that way. I was like, Okay, 1:57:00.160 --> 1:57:02.600 so we won't fight, so we won't hate each other. 1:57:03.120 --> 1:57:06.840 I'm fine. I actually even say, get another person. I 1:57:06.880 --> 1:57:09.480 don't know if even actually told you. 1:57:10.320 --> 1:57:11.000 I don't know if he. 1:57:14.040 --> 1:57:17.080 I say, I said, get another letter, Like I'm good, 1:57:18.080 --> 1:57:20.560 get another letter, you know what I mean. And so 1:57:21.320 --> 1:57:24.920 I think I think that that's what you know what 1:57:25.240 --> 1:57:27.320 what drove me to the point where like, okay, cool, 1:57:27.360 --> 1:57:28.400 I'm we're still friends. 1:57:28.440 --> 1:57:30.520 I want to still be you know whatever. But but 1:57:30.760 --> 1:57:34.600 but I'm gonna be honest. It is a classic. It is. 1:57:34.800 --> 1:57:36.080 I love that record. 1:57:36.200 --> 1:57:39.000 I don't even listen to my own records, but that 1:57:39.280 --> 1:57:43.120 CD I listened to is absolutely listen to. What would 1:57:43.160 --> 1:57:46.520 it take nothing? I can't do it speaking from his 1:57:46.640 --> 1:57:49.080 own now, I'm not gonna do it. My brother hate that, 1:57:52.680 --> 1:57:53.920 but you absolutely say never. 1:57:54.520 --> 1:57:56.800 Never. I'm not doing that because you before you were 1:57:56.840 --> 1:57:58.440 saying when you when you're ready. 1:57:58.560 --> 1:58:00.840 I'm not down. Now I'm talking about me. Yeah, I'm 1:58:00.920 --> 1:58:03.400 not doing that no more. Wow, do we take a 1:58:03.440 --> 1:58:06.320 shot to that? We can't never? 1:58:06.520 --> 1:58:09.880 I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. On, 1:58:10.640 --> 1:58:14.040 I gotta start right here. Let's go, let's go. Come on, listen, listen, 1:58:14.600 --> 1:58:17.680 you gotta take it. We're gonna sit this one this time. 1:58:18.640 --> 1:58:19.440 Let's sip this mother. 1:58:19.760 --> 1:58:20.440 Let's say. 1:58:21.520 --> 1:58:25.880 I'm just saying, say yeah, you never can say never again. 1:58:25.960 --> 1:58:28.280 I'm be real with it. Never can say never. But 1:58:28.400 --> 1:58:32.640 that's way I am now now. But wait for your shot. 1:58:33.040 --> 1:58:36.680 Maybe the right situation. I'm watching very closely, sir. Go ahead. 1:58:37.920 --> 1:58:41.840 It's not a shot. This is not okay, wow, because 1:58:41.960 --> 1:58:44.440 if a label came with the right situation, because let's 1:58:44.440 --> 1:58:47.560 suppose that's another situation. Let's suppose there's another situation that 1:58:47.640 --> 1:58:52.280 caused the situation. Yes, listen, let him expland I'm bad. 1:58:52.560 --> 1:58:52.920 I'm bad. 1:58:52.960 --> 1:58:55.160 Ahead, I don't even know how to explain this though, 1:58:55.200 --> 1:58:57.640 because it's all it's all got to do with the time. 1:58:57.880 --> 1:59:04.000 Okay, back in the day, if we if if if we. 1:59:04.120 --> 1:59:06.280 Didn't do something that we were supposed to do, and 1:59:06.800 --> 1:59:13.160 we contracted, we contractually obligated ourselves to do, would they 1:59:13.200 --> 1:59:13.920 give us a pass? 1:59:19.760 --> 1:59:21.560 But let me, let me, let me be. I'm just 1:59:22.120 --> 1:59:24.920 you're asking about the deals back then. Yeah, usually wouldn't 1:59:24.920 --> 1:59:25.600 give this is something. 1:59:25.680 --> 1:59:27.320 This is true for thought this, but let me be 1:59:27.440 --> 1:59:29.400 that was you'd be stuck on the label and definitely 1:59:29.480 --> 1:59:30.760 if you didn't do what you had to do. 1:59:31.200 --> 1:59:33.080 How about this, let me be demo's advocate. What if 1:59:33.120 --> 1:59:35.680 a label came to y'all and said, I want to 1:59:36.080 --> 1:59:38.440 buy T G T right. Okay, I want to get 1:59:38.480 --> 1:59:42.120 T G T right. But what and but the thing is, 1:59:42.240 --> 1:59:45.800 I'm going to negotiate with you on the side. I'm 1:59:45.800 --> 1:59:49.040 going to negotiate with him on the side. Done, and 1:59:49.640 --> 1:59:52.360 I'm not doing that. No, but what what if that 1:59:52.760 --> 1:59:55.280 what if that label comes with the number you want 1:59:55.320 --> 1:59:56.800 to forget? 1:59:56.920 --> 1:59:57.320 The number? 1:59:57.520 --> 2:00:00.560 No? No, no, we we if if you want to 2:00:00.640 --> 2:00:06.680 split down the middle three? Yeah, to talk about, but 2:00:06.800 --> 2:00:10.440 what came and what a number that you like? 2:00:10.680 --> 2:00:15.080 I don't give a fuck no, because because you group? 2:00:15.600 --> 2:00:18.000 Why can you say it's a possibility that anyone. 2:00:17.760 --> 2:00:21.480 Else story If we are in a group, we are 2:00:21.640 --> 2:00:24.880 a group. If you want to be solo, just go 2:00:25.080 --> 2:00:30.040 sold let me alone. Let me understand your aloud. 2:00:30.960 --> 2:00:33.960 You can't get in a group or anything to say 2:00:34.040 --> 2:00:40.160 you're better that that that now turns turns it into 2:00:40.320 --> 2:00:42.440 something else between you and me, you know what I mean, 2:00:42.600 --> 2:00:45.280 like like and so that's why I took the higher 2:00:45.360 --> 2:00:49.960 road and was like, it's not like we started out 2:00:50.040 --> 2:00:51.640 as a group. And that's why I feel for a 2:00:51.720 --> 2:00:54.040 lot of groups, because a lot of times that's what 2:00:54.200 --> 2:00:57.360 you will only be known for, feeling we are three 2:00:57.560 --> 2:01:03.560 kings solo sept have to do this, you know what 2:01:03.600 --> 2:01:03.840 I mean. 2:01:04.280 --> 2:01:07.560 Don't have to do this, Todd, don't have to do this. 2:01:08.200 --> 2:01:12.160 So we did that because we are friends and we 2:01:12.280 --> 2:01:15.040 felt that it would be something special for the people. 2:01:15.760 --> 2:01:19.840 But the inner inner, you know stuff, you know, kind 2:01:19.880 --> 2:01:22.280 of messed a lot of things up. But it wasn't 2:01:22.400 --> 2:01:28.680 because you know, I wasn't willing to ben and you know, 2:01:28.960 --> 2:01:30.200 try to make things work. 2:01:30.880 --> 2:01:32.120 I did that in the beginning. 2:01:33.520 --> 2:01:36.600 If if, if, if I was stuck to my guns, 2:01:37.000 --> 2:01:38.960 they would never even been the first joint. 2:01:39.200 --> 2:01:42.000 Right now, if someone comes and says three three three 2:01:42.160 --> 2:01:46.120 split down the middle, lying MAUI, you're gonna make the 2:01:46.440 --> 2:01:48.480 record for all damn you. You know what I mean? 2:01:48.520 --> 2:02:07.760 Heybo, we should have had to talk, but devastated right there, 2:02:07.800 --> 2:02:09.240 you know, you didn't take. 2:02:09.120 --> 2:02:14.680 This too, look at all. Oh yeah, let's not keep. 2:02:14.520 --> 2:02:17.320 My evidence right here, just in case anybody you can smell. 2:02:17.160 --> 2:02:21.120 Every cup is de leon in there. God damn it. 2:02:22.760 --> 2:02:25.520 You're drinking choices Hennessy. Yes, so you used to like 2:02:25.560 --> 2:02:28.640 to fight a lot. Yes, and we call that Look 2:02:28.680 --> 2:02:31.120 at me pretty because. 2:02:32.640 --> 2:02:39.720 Yeah, because anybody who drinking Hennessy and my acknowledgement. 2:02:39.920 --> 2:02:44.080 Yeah, very aggressive person, you're very laid back. You got 2:02:44.120 --> 2:02:47.080 it together. Yeah, at one point, at one point he 2:02:47.160 --> 2:02:49.840 was wanding out when you was on tour. Yeah, you 2:02:50.040 --> 2:02:50.839 was drinking hennessy. 2:02:51.400 --> 2:02:53.440 Yeah, like. 2:02:55.600 --> 2:02:58.680 If he was, uh social media back then, it's been 2:02:58.800 --> 2:02:59.480 a little different. 2:03:00.040 --> 2:03:01.720 Yeah, yeah, no tough guy stuff. 2:03:01.800 --> 2:03:05.240 It was just stupid young boy stuff, you know, nothing 2:03:05.440 --> 2:03:09.040 tough guys like that. But yeah, I'm glad it was 2:03:09.160 --> 2:03:10.320 no social media back then. 2:03:10.640 --> 2:03:15.080 Yeah, sir, sir. Yeah, what's what's like the walls thing 2:03:15.280 --> 2:03:26.560 you've seen on tour? You question? How about the below something? 2:03:26.640 --> 2:03:29.240 I mean, I mean, come on, man, like like the 2:03:29.360 --> 2:03:32.280 tour the after parties is always something that. 2:03:32.960 --> 2:03:35.839 You experience and you just say, wow, I never thought 2:03:35.920 --> 2:03:38.240 this was possible, Like this is. 2:03:40.440 --> 2:03:42.360 It's like it's crazy, man. 2:03:42.600 --> 2:03:45.560 Yeah, when I was younger, man, like, and I can't 2:03:45.600 --> 2:03:48.800 imagine damn your shows because some of the shows that 2:03:49.200 --> 2:03:51.320 we were doing was a little crazy. You just see 2:03:51.360 --> 2:03:54.840 a lot of crazy stuff, like you just see I mean, 2:03:55.200 --> 2:03:57.480 I don't know, Like I've said, I've seen you act 2:03:57.800 --> 2:03:59.960 so like that's the craziest thing that happened. 2:04:00.480 --> 2:04:02.240 The same thing has happened to a lot a lot 2:04:02.320 --> 2:04:02.760 of artists. 2:04:02.760 --> 2:04:03.440 When you check in the. 2:04:03.480 --> 2:04:08.080 Hotel and some girls or a girl is in your room. 2:04:08.520 --> 2:04:10.800 Oh wow, Now back in the days, we'll be able 2:04:10.800 --> 2:04:13.600 to be like, oh we if I'd have thought back then, I. 2:04:13.800 --> 2:04:17.240 See the hotels, I do, but I'm young. 2:04:17.440 --> 2:04:29.640 I'm like, you get busy, your stalker is coming through you. 2:04:29.760 --> 2:04:43.560 Like, yeah, that's the. 2:04:43.640 --> 2:04:46.440 Best thing about being a seasoned artist that have made 2:04:46.480 --> 2:04:49.080 it through all that. All that now now you can 2:04:49.160 --> 2:04:52.080 see all the hiccups. You can see all the craziness 2:04:52.160 --> 2:04:55.760 that can happen later and you try to, you know, 2:04:55.960 --> 2:04:59.240 remove yourself from that situation. And so, like I said, like, 2:04:59.320 --> 2:05:02.480 I'm glad wasn't like a lot of social media there 2:05:03.200 --> 2:05:06.360 are in those times, because yeah, a lot of crazy 2:05:06.440 --> 2:05:07.000 things happen. 2:05:07.800 --> 2:05:10.600 Let me ask you, what do you like more, being 2:05:10.720 --> 2:05:13.520 married or being single? I'm not married. I know, I'm 2:05:13.560 --> 2:05:17.640 just saying, Oh, we all period, period, overall life being married, 2:05:17.760 --> 2:05:19.880 being married. I heard you say that before, you said 2:05:19.960 --> 2:05:22.280 for a man. I thought there was a dope speech. 2:05:22.320 --> 2:05:24.320 You said for a man, you feel like a man 2:05:24.400 --> 2:05:25.120 should be married? 2:05:25.240 --> 2:05:25.440 Yeah. 2:05:25.480 --> 2:05:28.960 Absolutely, I feel like it betters us, you know what 2:05:29.000 --> 2:05:29.760 I mean, because it. 2:05:32.120 --> 2:05:35.440 Limits our ground. It kind of vides us. 2:05:35.680 --> 2:05:39.440 But I also feel like, you know, because of how 2:05:40.000 --> 2:05:42.760 the world is and where we are, you know, we're 2:05:42.920 --> 2:05:46.760 taught a certain, certain certain way, and so I feel like, yeah, yeah, 2:05:46.800 --> 2:05:49.280 I think marriage is the best thing for a guy, 2:05:49.600 --> 2:05:54.280 you know what I mean, because only bad things come 2:05:54.360 --> 2:05:56.640 from you just doing a whole bunch of them. True, 2:05:57.000 --> 2:05:59.760 you know what I mean, Like, only only bad things 2:05:59.800 --> 2:06:01.320 come come from that. And so. 2:06:02.920 --> 2:06:06.720 You know, I'm I'm I'm looking for that, you know 2:06:06.800 --> 2:06:07.080 what I mean. 2:06:07.200 --> 2:06:11.960 So in love absolutely absolutely, there's nothing like that, especially 2:06:12.320 --> 2:06:14.680 we had the kids and every everything. You know, I 2:06:14.840 --> 2:06:18.360 was I was speaking to a young fella, and I 2:06:18.520 --> 2:06:20.680 was just like, man, when I came home finally, I mean, 2:06:21.120 --> 2:06:23.360 once the divorce and all that happened and I came 2:06:23.400 --> 2:06:26.840 home and the house was empty, I was like, it's real. 2:06:27.520 --> 2:06:31.960 It's like no towels do everything. 2:06:33.120 --> 2:06:36.400 Quiet, quiet, nothing happened, And I was like, I don't 2:06:36.520 --> 2:06:36.720 like this. 2:06:38.000 --> 2:06:39.400 No one to argue with this. 2:06:39.920 --> 2:06:41.640 I like this. I mean you don't. 2:06:41.760 --> 2:06:43.800 You don't miss it until it's gone, you feel me? 2:06:43.920 --> 2:06:46.240 So yeah, I think I think the best thing for 2:06:46.320 --> 2:06:49.440 a guy is to have that stability in a woman 2:06:49.640 --> 2:06:53.640 and kids, in a family and just you know, just 2:06:53.720 --> 2:07:06.680 be a family man. It's catching God, just catching up. 2:07:08.640 --> 2:07:16.760 Your right now. I feel like you manage yourself. Absolutely. 2:07:19.120 --> 2:07:23.440 We need you to explain that to these artists. Yeah. 2:07:24.200 --> 2:07:28.240 One that don't think they can do that. Yes. And 2:07:28.360 --> 2:07:29.640 two the reason why. 2:07:31.640 --> 2:07:35.520 As far as me managing and doing a lot of 2:07:35.560 --> 2:07:38.600 the stuff that I do for me on a daily basis, 2:07:38.680 --> 2:07:42.120 I think it's uh, it's a great thing for me 2:07:42.720 --> 2:07:46.440 because I've had so many well not so many two 2:07:46.760 --> 2:07:54.280 situations in my life that with detriment to me prospering 2:07:54.520 --> 2:07:58.360 in this entertainment business and so like in the beginning, 2:07:58.680 --> 2:08:03.200 like I had like from ninety six to two thousand 2:08:03.240 --> 2:08:07.840 and one accountant. Like one thing I want to say 2:08:07.880 --> 2:08:10.560 to a lot of the young young artists out there, 2:08:11.280 --> 2:08:18.120 pay attention to the accountants and you're lawyers, wear many hats. 2:08:18.960 --> 2:08:21.000 Don't just say I'm on the. 2:08:21.040 --> 2:08:24.200 Road, I'm doing my thing, and Yo, the money's going 2:08:24.240 --> 2:08:28.480 to be there because the same way that you're working, 2:08:28.840 --> 2:08:32.000 and as hard as you're working, if you get the 2:08:32.080 --> 2:08:36.440 wrong person to manage that, they're working just as hard 2:08:36.600 --> 2:08:40.600 to think of how to steal your money, you know 2:08:40.640 --> 2:08:44.000 what I mean. There's wolves out here, man, and so 2:08:44.160 --> 2:08:48.080 you tie on yeah and stand up, Hey, what's up? 2:08:48.560 --> 2:08:52.040 And that's actually their business how they make This happened 2:08:52.080 --> 2:08:57.880 to me twice. Accountants twice. The accountants wow. And so 2:08:58.760 --> 2:09:05.160 the third time, you know, in two thousand seven, when 2:09:05.200 --> 2:09:11.640 the housing crisis hit tough time, bro, I was asset 2:09:11.840 --> 2:09:16.360 rich but money poor. I think I had forty eight 2:09:16.440 --> 2:09:21.200 thousand dollars in my account. I got rose voices, I 2:09:21.320 --> 2:09:24.840 got Lamborghinis, I got homes, I got all that, but 2:09:24.920 --> 2:09:31.480 I only got forty eight thousand dollars. And so during 2:09:31.560 --> 2:09:34.839 that time, it was more so about you know, the housing, 2:09:35.080 --> 2:09:36.840 and I think Bernie made off and all that. 2:09:36.880 --> 2:09:38.920 Kind of stuff. A tough time and a lot of 2:09:38.960 --> 2:09:40.680 people were going through and so I went. 2:09:40.560 --> 2:09:45.600 To the FBI for this person, and it was basically 2:09:45.760 --> 2:09:50.320 told me we had bigger fish to fry. So basically, 2:09:50.720 --> 2:09:55.720 you on your own kid again for the second time. Right, 2:09:56.360 --> 2:09:59.880 So from that point on, I just said I'm handling. 2:10:00.080 --> 2:10:03.080 I don't care how hard the homework is and the 2:10:03.200 --> 2:10:06.520 work is, I'm going to handle it myself. And I 2:10:06.800 --> 2:10:10.080 could not have done nothing better than to do that, 2:10:10.320 --> 2:10:13.200 man like. And so now I'm sitting good. I'm comfortable. 2:10:13.280 --> 2:10:15.959 I ain't rich, rich, rich or whatever, but I'm very comfortable. 2:10:16.440 --> 2:10:19.840 Don't need to sing no more. Have accountants, don't need no. 2:10:20.200 --> 2:10:23.400 I mean I have people who like no. 2:10:23.560 --> 2:10:27.680 No. I have a place that we reconcile every every quarter. Okay, 2:10:27.920 --> 2:10:30.640 and this is what you made all that, and then 2:10:30.800 --> 2:10:33.760 I just pay quarterly, you know, because that's what it's 2:10:33.880 --> 2:10:36.200 truly about, access to your access to. 2:10:36.320 --> 2:10:37.560 The account period. 2:10:37.760 --> 2:10:41.360 I'll just advise you. And that's what a lot of 2:10:41.400 --> 2:10:43.920 guys don't understand. A lot of artists, not just this 2:10:44.080 --> 2:10:47.920 kind of females, everybody. You got to take control of 2:10:48.160 --> 2:10:50.000 your life because at the end of the day, no 2:10:50.160 --> 2:10:52.960 one will care about your life more than you. So 2:10:53.120 --> 2:10:55.680 you got to take control of that. And so you know, 2:10:55.880 --> 2:10:58.920 that's that's what I did in two thousand and ten. 2:10:59.640 --> 2:11:01.680 And so from that on, I don't have no manager, 2:11:02.440 --> 2:11:07.640 don't want no manager. Don't have uh uh, you know, 2:11:08.440 --> 2:11:11.880 accountants that that have access to your money and all that. 2:11:12.480 --> 2:11:14.280 I do everything in house. 2:11:14.640 --> 2:11:19.160 I hire a person that you know, handle certain situations, 2:11:19.360 --> 2:11:22.520 but no one has access to the things that I 2:11:22.760 --> 2:11:26.400 you know, I got going I got going on. So yeah, man, 2:11:26.880 --> 2:11:29.400 but damn man if I if I knew what I 2:11:29.520 --> 2:11:34.760 knew now, then man, I'd be in such a better position. 2:11:35.120 --> 2:11:38.840 But let's make some noise for but but but but 2:11:39.240 --> 2:11:41.880 you being as busy as as as you be, like 2:11:41.960 --> 2:11:44.160 you said, I think you said you almost probably do 2:11:44.280 --> 2:11:47.120 twenty shows a month if you wanted to. Yeah, I'm 2:11:47.160 --> 2:11:48.720 gone every weekend, not twenty. 2:11:48.880 --> 2:11:52.720 But I just think Friday said something, you negotiate all 2:11:52.760 --> 2:11:56.960 those shows every yourself as yourself every show, every show. 2:11:57.000 --> 2:11:59.880 I'm looking at you every every show. Right, Yeah, it 2:12:00.200 --> 2:12:03.320 is ever an awkward conversation with the what I need. 2:12:04.200 --> 2:12:07.840 That's what it said. That's very simple, very simple. That's 2:12:08.280 --> 2:12:11.960 honestly because you know, you know, because the artist feel awkward. 2:12:12.120 --> 2:12:13.880 Artists just like I want to talk. 2:12:14.440 --> 2:12:17.560 You talking about my money, you feel me like because 2:12:17.560 --> 2:12:19.720 it's not a lot of stuff to do that. Like, 2:12:20.160 --> 2:12:23.240 my brother's right there, he'll tell you, like, listen, are 2:12:23.320 --> 2:12:26.920 you free. Yeah, how much you need X amount? What 2:12:27.080 --> 2:12:29.879 do you need on your route? At say any contract? 2:12:30.400 --> 2:12:34.440 That's what it is, right, it's not communicated. It's not 2:12:34.520 --> 2:12:37.280 a lot to that now to manage that. It's specifics 2:12:37.400 --> 2:12:40.040 and all that kind of stuff. And ballert because I 2:12:40.120 --> 2:12:42.680 believe it or not. A person can put certain things 2:12:42.720 --> 2:12:44.680 in the contract and be like, oh, he said, but 2:12:45.640 --> 2:12:47.400 you just got to have a person that can just 2:12:47.520 --> 2:12:50.240 read it, read it reader. And I actually sits. I 2:12:50.400 --> 2:12:52.800 sits through it a lot of them. If I don't, 2:12:52.840 --> 2:12:56.080 I passes it on to my road manage and we 2:12:56.320 --> 2:12:59.120 we we talk it out and yeah you have a 2:12:59.200 --> 2:13:02.200 road manager. Yeah, yeah, because you need to shout out 2:13:02.240 --> 2:13:03.960 to take Terrence Williams. 2:13:05.960 --> 2:13:06.760 Damn, that's crazy. 2:13:07.520 --> 2:13:09.600 So many artists need to hear that I don't let 2:13:09.680 --> 2:13:11.480 nobody mess with my money, because at one. 2:13:11.400 --> 2:13:15.800 Point I haven't before, But at one point I had 2:13:15.840 --> 2:13:18.040 that with two situations the same way. Whereas you, I 2:13:18.160 --> 2:13:20.920 mention you, and I didn't. I didn't trust nobody, so 2:13:21.000 --> 2:13:22.760 I would but I would be frightened. I would tell 2:13:22.800 --> 2:13:25.600 I would not tell people it was negotiating deals. I 2:13:25.680 --> 2:13:29.000 had a whole different email such and such, Yeah, yeah, 2:13:29.160 --> 2:13:31.640 such and such and they were negotiating with me. They 2:13:31.760 --> 2:13:39.640 just didn't know it was me. Damn, I calmed down. Yeah, 2:13:39.720 --> 2:13:42.800 but I would to God, So I understand that totally. 2:13:43.520 --> 2:13:45.640 Is that something that like, I'd like to let them 2:13:45.680 --> 2:13:49.680 know it's me though, you let them know what's b Yeah. 2:13:49.560 --> 2:13:53.160 Yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking like when you get like 2:13:53.240 --> 2:13:55.680 that twice? Man, Yeah, you don't know. 2:13:55.880 --> 2:14:01.680 No time for three ye no time? Did that? 2:14:01.880 --> 2:14:02.120 Did that? 2:14:04.920 --> 2:14:07.840 Did that make you better to a certain extent? Because absolutely, 2:14:07.920 --> 2:14:10.200 because you know what it is. We're giving the people 2:14:10.360 --> 2:14:15.120 jobs at the end of the day, with no direspect 2:14:15.160 --> 2:14:17.800 to any manager out there or anybody that works behind 2:14:17.800 --> 2:14:20.840 the scenes. But still it's still us. That's the artists. Yes, 2:14:21.120 --> 2:14:24.120 we know that they helped make us, but we also 2:14:24.200 --> 2:14:27.760 were given the opportunity. We're given them the opportunity, and 2:14:28.800 --> 2:14:31.640 I just feel like they should honor at it to 2:14:31.800 --> 2:14:35.240 a fall. Yeah, it hurts both times I went through it. 2:14:35.640 --> 2:14:38.720 Man, that that that truly hurts when it's someone that. 2:14:41.560 --> 2:14:47.480 How just just to put things in perspective, you as 2:14:47.520 --> 2:14:52.080 a person, you just you're looking at a person to 2:14:52.600 --> 2:14:55.840 guide you and and and and take care of you, 2:14:56.280 --> 2:15:00.320 like your mother or your father. Right, So when that 2:15:00.640 --> 2:15:06.320 person violates that trust. It's sustained on your heart, it's 2:15:06.320 --> 2:15:07.480 sustained in your mind. 2:15:07.600 --> 2:15:10.120 And so it took twice two times for me to 2:15:10.200 --> 2:15:15.040 be like, I don't fuck you, you know what I mean? 2:15:15.160 --> 2:15:19.000 So that is it's it's messed up man. 2:15:19.080 --> 2:15:22.600 And so I just feel like, you know, when you 2:15:22.720 --> 2:15:27.760 take on a job like that, just have the best 2:15:27.880 --> 2:15:33.760 in mind for your for your client, because when a 2:15:33.840 --> 2:15:38.640 lot of people don't understand, even managers and people like that, 2:15:40.200 --> 2:15:43.960 as long as you make that one person successful, so 2:15:44.120 --> 2:15:48.080 many other people are going to come to you. Just 2:15:48.240 --> 2:15:52.960 do right, just do right, just do right. And so 2:15:53.680 --> 2:15:56.120 a lot of people don't don't understand that. It's like, 2:15:56.440 --> 2:15:58.960 it's just like that story about the goose with the 2:15:59.040 --> 2:16:01.880 golden egg. They get the fox keep that killed the 2:16:02.520 --> 2:16:05.840 killed the goose and thought it was at a billion eggs. 2:16:06.240 --> 2:16:06.520 Whatever. 2:16:06.680 --> 2:16:10.839 Come on, man, you gotta enjoy and understand the process 2:16:11.280 --> 2:16:16.960 of making that situation of situation and building from that situation. 2:16:17.360 --> 2:16:19.080 A lot of people don't understand that they're just in 2:16:19.160 --> 2:16:20.040 there for the quick money. 2:16:20.080 --> 2:16:20.800 You shouldn't do that. 2:16:21.360 --> 2:16:26.120 You enjoy the process, enjoy, enjoy always being around the 2:16:26.240 --> 2:16:31.280 element of you are being able to move forward. 2:16:31.720 --> 2:16:33.200 You know what I mean. And that's why I've always 2:16:33.240 --> 2:16:35.640 said I don't have to be number one. I don't 2:16:35.680 --> 2:16:38.720 have to be on a charice only. But am I? 2:16:39.320 --> 2:16:42.560 Am I in the room that person going, oh I 2:16:42.680 --> 2:16:44.960 remember pony, Oh I remember this? 2:16:45.680 --> 2:16:45.800 Yo? 2:16:46.200 --> 2:16:46.840 Can you do this? 2:16:46.959 --> 2:16:47.440 Can you do this? 2:16:48.959 --> 2:16:51.800 That's how you continue to go like this, That's how 2:16:51.879 --> 2:16:54.039 you continue to build Bill Bill. 2:16:54.080 --> 2:16:57.360 The person that I'm too good to talk to anybody 2:16:57.920 --> 2:17:00.800 and now you yo, you need me, you need that. 2:17:01.560 --> 2:17:05.320 That's not that's not the person that's gonna prosper when 2:17:05.440 --> 2:17:06.640 he or she falls. 2:17:07.080 --> 2:17:08.080 They're gonna fall like this. 2:17:11.840 --> 2:17:17.560 When the person that has made those connections, made those 2:17:18.360 --> 2:17:20.160 you know, friendships, they're. 2:17:20.000 --> 2:17:26.640 Gonna go like this mm hmmm, mm hmmm because of 2:17:26.720 --> 2:17:29.880 the people that are in the room right. You know 2:17:29.959 --> 2:17:33.000 what I'm saying. So that's what you're supposed to do. 2:17:33.160 --> 2:17:37.720 You always maintain your humbleness, Always maintain and understand that 2:17:37.800 --> 2:17:41.760 nothing lasts forever. Always know that you can be here 2:17:42.600 --> 2:17:45.560 mm hmmm, or you could be there right by people. 2:17:45.720 --> 2:17:48.560 You got to do right by people, bro, because they 2:17:48.680 --> 2:17:54.920 might be at one point in a different position. You 2:17:55.000 --> 2:18:04.160 got your shot ready, I'm here, let's go. Oh my God, 2:18:05.959 --> 2:18:13.240 that was so in those jeans. He wants to know 2:18:13.320 --> 2:18:19.120 what's in those to make sure this is right here? 2:18:20.480 --> 2:18:23.040 How many times you get tagged on Instagram a day 2:18:23.840 --> 2:18:29.040 a million people just showing you in they jeans? Did 2:18:29.120 --> 2:18:31.200 you make in them jeans while you had on a 2:18:31.240 --> 2:18:37.880 pair of jeans? I didn't make those scenes. Let me 2:18:37.959 --> 2:18:39.720 give you a story. Okay, let's go. Let me give 2:18:39.720 --> 2:18:43.360 you a I don't know what I said. Go ahead, 2:18:43.360 --> 2:18:45.240 you can said, nobody listen to us like I said, 2:18:45.879 --> 2:18:46.360 you said. 2:18:46.600 --> 2:18:49.800 So. I did a song called hell Yeah mm hmm. 2:18:50.520 --> 2:18:52.760 Kelly wrote that song that's big up all Kelly Ye, 2:18:52.879 --> 2:18:59.560 all right, okay, now I'm com through, now come through. 2:19:04.680 --> 2:19:07.000 So that two stories. 2:19:07.280 --> 2:19:11.360 So he wrote that song for me, right, and I 2:19:11.520 --> 2:19:16.840 was like that dope. And then he uh the south 2:19:16.879 --> 2:19:19.760 Fast something so shine. You know what I'm saying, He's 2:19:19.840 --> 2:19:22.040 so mean, Why are you doing the damn thing? And 2:19:22.240 --> 2:19:24.520 he more room from me and those jeans, I said 2:19:24.680 --> 2:19:30.800 what he made his own version and those genes. 2:19:32.520 --> 2:19:34.880 I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take that. And I 2:19:34.959 --> 2:19:35.920 wrote a song about it. 2:19:37.200 --> 2:19:40.600 I wrote, I wrote that song from that song from 2:19:40.680 --> 2:19:45.480 that piece, right, And so when I wrote that song, 2:19:46.320 --> 2:19:50.840 I was like, yo, Kelly didn't like it though, for 2:19:50.959 --> 2:19:52.760 real he like it. 2:19:52.879 --> 2:19:54.160 He like, but I wrote that. 2:19:54.280 --> 2:19:59.280 He called you and said, you, pretty boy, pretty niggas 2:20:00.240 --> 2:20:02.760 try to do new y you let me tell you 2:20:04.120 --> 2:20:04.320 do that. 2:20:05.240 --> 2:20:13.480 What he called the label that's a homi dady. 2:20:14.640 --> 2:20:17.760 So you know he of course, you know, it was 2:20:17.800 --> 2:20:20.240 a little static in the in the beginning, but you know, 2:20:20.440 --> 2:20:21.280 the labels like no. 2:20:21.440 --> 2:20:23.200 This is hit, I don't I don't care what you're 2:20:23.240 --> 2:20:25.320 talking about, and so and so. 2:20:25.680 --> 2:20:28.040 So we can't came out with it. So you know, 2:20:28.280 --> 2:20:31.560 it shout out to a man. But yet one of 2:20:31.760 --> 2:20:35.560 uh in those genes was one of those songs for me. Man, 2:20:36.680 --> 2:20:39.360 I was just like, I was just being creative. I 2:20:39.440 --> 2:20:41.959 was just being a creative dude, you know what I mean. 2:20:42.080 --> 2:20:45.680 And so again I was in Miami. 2:20:45.760 --> 2:20:46.320 I think it was. 2:20:47.959 --> 2:20:53.480 Fat Joe uh Hi rule all of us was. You know, 2:20:53.959 --> 2:20:57.600 we were in the same uh uh yeah. Now we 2:20:57.680 --> 2:21:01.000 were in the same uh snity level nightclub. 2:21:01.320 --> 2:21:04.440 Yeah he's doing I think, but yeah, it was. 2:21:04.600 --> 2:21:04.840 It was. 2:21:05.120 --> 2:21:09.240 It was great, man, it was great, great experience. You 2:21:09.360 --> 2:21:13.800 know jeans Man I said, listen, I'm just like. 2:21:13.959 --> 2:21:15.680 Uh, what was that line? 2:21:16.520 --> 2:21:18.320 Jac said, you made it a hot line. I made 2:21:18.320 --> 2:21:19.160 it a hot song. 2:21:20.480 --> 2:21:21.640 At that time. He was going out. 2:21:21.760 --> 2:21:23.880 That's what I was a little bit, just a little bit. 2:21:24.480 --> 2:21:26.200 He made me mad. He made me because he called 2:21:26.240 --> 2:21:28.320 my label. He made me man. He made me man. 2:21:29.400 --> 2:21:31.840 He's like, why not here? They can't go out? And 2:21:31.879 --> 2:21:35.240 the label was like yes again, so it's so good. 2:21:38.400 --> 2:21:40.360 Give you jewels, will give you your jewels. 2:21:42.320 --> 2:21:50.000 I'm bouncing around, yeah, do it, do it? Two reasons. 2:21:50.080 --> 2:21:53.160 I cried, come on, man, I don't do half. I 2:21:53.320 --> 2:21:57.720 do that sometimes. Okay. It was a great away about 2:21:57.760 --> 2:22:00.840 my father passed. Got you got. I don't listen to it. 2:22:01.640 --> 2:22:05.120 So when I read, I was like what I was like. 2:22:05.240 --> 2:22:06.480 Of course I listened to it as. 2:22:06.400 --> 2:22:06.760 I made it. 2:22:06.879 --> 2:22:09.879 Of course, of course you have to listen back, of course, 2:22:10.200 --> 2:22:13.600 But physically, like sometimes people will put like you know, 2:22:13.680 --> 2:22:17.040 I'll jump in a car service somewhere and they're like, 2:22:17.080 --> 2:22:19.600 oh ship, and they'll put on a playlist and as 2:22:19.640 --> 2:22:21.880 soon as I come on, like a little bit special, 2:22:22.160 --> 2:22:24.879 can you push that? Push that? Because for me I didn't. 2:22:24.920 --> 2:22:28.120 I made the record to vent, but I ain't make 2:22:28.160 --> 2:22:30.160 the record for me. I made the record for everyone else. 2:22:30.320 --> 2:22:33.400 Going through it was therapeutic, It was therapeutic. I made 2:22:33.440 --> 2:22:35.120 the record for everyone else that was going through it. 2:22:35.560 --> 2:22:37.640 When I heard you say that same story, I was like, 2:22:38.120 --> 2:22:41.680 I was like, we don't even like, we don't even know, 2:22:43.240 --> 2:22:44.000 and that's crazy. 2:22:44.080 --> 2:22:49.560 So have you listened to it? I mean I have, 2:22:49.840 --> 2:22:55.000 but yeah, maybe twice in on purpose or it was 2:22:55.160 --> 2:23:00.520 just probably playing. I've never I've never actually put it 2:23:00.560 --> 2:23:02.560 on and just listen to the whole thing. No, there's 2:23:02.600 --> 2:23:06.080 always been little pieces and all that kind of stuff. 2:23:06.120 --> 2:23:08.200 So so now I've never done that. 2:23:08.360 --> 2:23:10.320 I've never done that because it's too emotional. 2:23:10.720 --> 2:23:13.200 You know, a lot of people that haven't experienced the 2:23:13.320 --> 2:23:17.160 things that we've experienced in writing those type of songs, 2:23:17.360 --> 2:23:21.520 they won't understand. They won't understand that, you know what 2:23:21.560 --> 2:23:24.520 I mean. So if I actually listen to that, I 2:23:24.640 --> 2:23:25.959 can't even function no more. 2:23:26.080 --> 2:23:29.120 Like like you said, your engineer left out. Oh yeah, my. 2:23:30.920 --> 2:23:37.880 Engineer and Corey Rooney core he left out. He left 2:23:38.200 --> 2:23:41.879 the moment. Yeah, they needed engineers. It was easy op engineering. 2:23:42.200 --> 2:23:45.800 I don't even remember, no easy LP. He produced it. 2:23:45.920 --> 2:23:48.080 Yeah, he produced people do so I don't think He's 2:23:48.200 --> 2:23:51.520 LP was dead. It was kept cos actually they left 2:23:51.560 --> 2:24:00.280 out left. Yeah, we had to take a moment. Eybody 2:24:00.280 --> 2:24:02.560 had to take a moment because they heard it in 2:24:02.640 --> 2:24:06.880 my voice. I was cracking, I was crying and all that. 2:24:07.200 --> 2:24:08.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:24:08.640 --> 2:24:10.240 It was therapeutic though, you know what I mean, I 2:24:10.280 --> 2:24:11.039 had to get that out. 2:24:11.160 --> 2:24:14.400 That actually helped me because you continue to back to 2:24:14.480 --> 2:24:17.680 back at father Daniel, well my mama, I mean my 2:24:17.760 --> 2:24:18.720 father did my mama? 2:24:18.800 --> 2:24:21.280 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And we both of y'all 2:24:21.520 --> 2:24:23.879 think that that record would help other people going. That's 2:24:23.879 --> 2:24:26.680 the only reason why I did it was like, you know, 2:24:27.400 --> 2:24:29.160 actually probably didn't do it for me. I did it 2:24:29.240 --> 2:24:32.800 for anybody else going through it. Well, in fact, I 2:24:32.879 --> 2:24:35.000 did it for me and and and the people. 2:24:35.120 --> 2:24:36.920 But I had to let it out, bro, like I 2:24:37.080 --> 2:24:42.080 was hurting, bro, because I could tell you don't address everything. Yeah, yeah, 2:24:42.640 --> 2:24:46.680 I'm I'm one of those guys. I keep everything to myself. 2:24:47.360 --> 2:24:49.880 But that's why I also read that you went to 2:24:49.959 --> 2:24:53.440 therapy therapy help helping you go down, and I also. 2:24:53.320 --> 2:24:57.720 Read talk about depression, right, well yeah for that yeah, yeah, yeah, 2:25:00.040 --> 2:25:02.440 I still I still I still battle with that though, 2:25:02.680 --> 2:25:04.920 you know what I mean, a lot of people. You know, 2:25:04.920 --> 2:25:08.080 what's funny is like you can have all this all 2:25:08.120 --> 2:25:10.520 that you know what I mean. People don't know when 2:25:10.560 --> 2:25:15.360 you go home. Be like, like a lot of people 2:25:15.480 --> 2:25:17.920 don't know that, and so I battle with that on 2:25:18.040 --> 2:25:22.760 a constant basis, on a daily basis. So but you know, 2:25:22.959 --> 2:25:25.960 at the end of the day, I'm I'm constantly moving 2:25:26.040 --> 2:25:29.320 forward and that's what's most important. Don't allow that to 2:25:30.080 --> 2:25:34.560 dictate what your movements and what your prosperity will be. 2:25:36.080 --> 2:25:40.840 Fight for it, move forward, fight through it, love, keep going. 2:25:41.080 --> 2:25:42.560 You know what I mean, because that's what it is. 2:25:42.680 --> 2:25:44.480 Life is a journey. Life is a fight. 2:25:44.720 --> 2:25:48.080 You can't you know, I mean, it is what it is, 2:25:48.320 --> 2:25:50.560 you know, And you know what I've always. 2:25:52.040 --> 2:25:56.280 Find healing in to see things that other people are 2:25:56.400 --> 2:25:59.240 going through and I'm like, why are you complaining? I 2:25:59.400 --> 2:26:07.000 just posted something. It was a young guy giving uh 2:26:09.400 --> 2:26:12.720 someone in Africa like bread, and I was like, wow, 2:26:14.000 --> 2:26:19.080 I'm I'm worried about it. Doesn't mean that your feelings 2:26:19.120 --> 2:26:22.960 don't have any merit or yeah or anything like that. 2:26:23.400 --> 2:26:25.160 But understand that. 2:26:25.200 --> 2:26:29.360 This way more than you are going through. 2:26:30.120 --> 2:26:33.640 And that's what I find strength in, you know what 2:26:33.720 --> 2:26:34.160 I'm saying. 2:26:34.640 --> 2:26:36.879 So, So I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. 2:26:37.280 --> 2:26:41.120 I don't sleep in you know, my faults or my 2:26:42.000 --> 2:26:44.760 you know, all all the other stuff that comes with 2:26:45.160 --> 2:26:47.039 me being me and all that kind of stuff. 2:26:47.120 --> 2:26:51.679 I find strength to move forward in what others. 2:26:52.760 --> 2:26:55.560 Don't have, you know what I mean, because that's where 2:26:55.600 --> 2:26:57.360 your strength comes, you know what I mean? 2:26:57.400 --> 2:27:02.119 And so, uh, that's that's what builds me up. That's 2:27:02.120 --> 2:27:04.080 what makes me who I who I am, the man 2:27:04.160 --> 2:27:05.240 that I am, you know what I mean? 2:27:05.480 --> 2:27:10.240 Because everything that I'd be like, oh, I can't, I can't, 2:27:11.000 --> 2:27:12.880 I can't do this and do that, And I'm like, 2:27:13.080 --> 2:27:13.440 damn this. 2:27:14.200 --> 2:27:17.440 They are living on the street. You gotta mansine to 2:27:17.520 --> 2:27:22.840 go home to what? Shut up? Shut the funk up. 2:27:24.200 --> 2:27:27.520 Work work, that's what you gotta do. You gotta work. 2:27:27.680 --> 2:27:31.800 And I'm a worker dog. I posted something a few 2:27:31.879 --> 2:27:35.520 days ago. I was like, look, because this guy he 2:27:35.600 --> 2:27:40.200 was supposed to clean my fountain, and I know how 2:27:40.240 --> 2:27:42.120 to clean my foulon. I was like, you know what, 2:27:42.879 --> 2:27:45.240 don't clean it. I'll clean it myself, you know what 2:27:45.280 --> 2:27:48.080 I mean. So we gotta okay, we're looking to skipboard 2:27:48.120 --> 2:27:50.119 the fount. In fact, you got a foulon. I gotta 2:27:50.120 --> 2:27:52.840 found a big found. Okay, you got a big, big 2:27:52.959 --> 2:27:54.400 sound because I don't think most of us. 2:27:54.360 --> 2:27:56.640 Can relate to having about everybody's like what the is 2:27:56.680 --> 2:27:57.080 the fountain? 2:27:57.200 --> 2:28:00.440 So I'm like, clean yourself, just cleaning yourself. And so 2:28:00.560 --> 2:28:02.840 I did that and I found purpose. I found I 2:28:02.920 --> 2:28:08.720 felt like like like I found yeah, like so yeah, 2:28:09.360 --> 2:28:10.360 so that's so. 2:28:10.480 --> 2:28:11.200 That's what it was. 2:28:11.360 --> 2:28:15.400 Man. I'm always appreciative and I'm always thankful for any 2:28:15.560 --> 2:28:17.280 and everything that's been given to me. 2:28:17.840 --> 2:28:19.879 And I'm going to just move forward, you. 2:28:19.920 --> 2:28:20.280 Know what I mean. 2:28:20.680 --> 2:28:25.600 I don't have I don't hate, dislike or nothing, nothing 2:28:25.720 --> 2:28:29.280 like that. I just want to move forward. Oh that's 2:28:29.320 --> 2:28:29.840 that good ship. 2:28:29.959 --> 2:28:34.960 Yeah you don't. Yeah, you don't smoke weed? 2:28:35.240 --> 2:28:35.400 Nah? 2:28:37.000 --> 2:28:37.320 What not? 2:28:37.440 --> 2:28:38.959 What made you not want to say? Let me, let 2:28:39.000 --> 2:28:42.400 me hit the let me hit they you ready for 2:28:42.480 --> 2:28:45.640 the story? Don't tell me certain weed and they fucked 2:28:45.680 --> 2:28:47.440 you up one night and it never turned me back. 2:28:47.440 --> 2:28:49.000 Don't say it five times? Six times? 2:28:49.800 --> 2:28:52.440 Yeah, let's give This is one of the things that 2:28:53.080 --> 2:28:55.880 a lot of people don't understand, like certain things aren't 2:28:55.959 --> 2:28:56.760 for certain people. 2:28:57.240 --> 2:28:59.040 There you go, you finish my sentence. Feel me? 2:28:59.760 --> 2:29:02.920 So I used to throw up every well not used to. 2:29:03.080 --> 2:29:05.920 I still will throw up every time I smoke weed. 2:29:06.720 --> 2:29:10.040 Anybody in here that smokes. We be like, we don't 2:29:10.080 --> 2:29:12.240 make you throw up, Yes, it does. It makes me 2:29:12.360 --> 2:29:12.720 throw up. 2:29:13.080 --> 2:29:19.760 You don't see anxiety, nah, nah, because. 2:29:19.560 --> 2:29:21.879 When I smoke weed, I mean well, when I half 2:29:21.959 --> 2:29:24.760 smoked weed, I'll be like, yo, I'm comfortable, and then 2:29:24.800 --> 2:29:29.039 all of a sudden, my stomach says, not so comfortable. 2:29:30.200 --> 2:29:33.920 It's coming up there. So you know it is what 2:29:34.040 --> 2:29:34.600 it is exactly. 2:29:34.760 --> 2:29:36.920 Some certain things ain't for everybody. 2:29:37.560 --> 2:29:40.680 Now that, honey, we can do that all day. 2:29:41.160 --> 2:29:41.400 We can. 2:29:42.959 --> 2:29:49.320 We can do that that, all that, all that. I 2:29:49.440 --> 2:29:50.920 can't believe we do that. 2:29:52.280 --> 2:29:53.320 We do that all day. 2:29:54.879 --> 2:29:56.760 For a long time. Do that all day. 2:29:57.920 --> 2:30:02.400 Nothing else you never Yeah, of course all the albums 2:30:02.440 --> 2:30:04.000 you sold, I've done that. 2:30:04.720 --> 2:30:07.520 I've done that. I've done all of that. But no wine. 2:30:07.600 --> 2:30:10.360 I drank choice. You don't have to did a song 2:30:10.520 --> 2:30:11.520 like that, drink of choice? 2:30:14.200 --> 2:30:19.320 Mean to tell me you and like that might maybe 2:30:19.360 --> 2:30:23.920 I bring my own. That's a dry country. 2:30:26.640 --> 2:30:30.880 Actually you're talking about the uh the hen deal, secure 2:30:32.200 --> 2:30:33.320 killing killing. 2:30:34.720 --> 2:30:34.880 You know. 2:30:36.680 --> 2:30:38.800 Yeah, we tried to convince you to drink now. 2:30:39.560 --> 2:30:40.560 No, no, it's like. 2:30:43.760 --> 2:30:45.120 You try to try. 2:30:46.040 --> 2:30:52.119 He was like all loves I like, but I'm sticking 2:30:52.200 --> 2:30:54.000 with that mean, I mean you gotta. 2:30:54.200 --> 2:30:55.800 I mean you won't do a shot, just a shot 2:30:56.480 --> 2:30:58.400 I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a shot. That's what 2:30:58.480 --> 2:31:01.480 I drink. I drink jelly on. Okay, you want to 2:31:01.680 --> 2:31:02.760 take a shot? Shot? 2:31:02.840 --> 2:31:04.800 I want to do a shot? Which y'all drink? 2:31:04.879 --> 2:31:06.920 Okay, you can drink shot shot. 2:31:08.520 --> 2:31:09.040 Marijuana? 2:31:09.120 --> 2:31:12.879 Well, my father, you ready for the show? Here? 2:31:13.000 --> 2:31:14.040 You know how with that? 2:31:16.120 --> 2:31:19.039 You want me to tell you to I'm gonna tell 2:31:19.040 --> 2:31:20.160 you to listen. 2:31:20.240 --> 2:31:24.119 Listen, let me tell you to give me They make 2:31:24.200 --> 2:31:25.119 that in the bathtub. 2:31:25.240 --> 2:31:27.240 I'm just telling you. In the bathtob. 2:31:28.320 --> 2:31:34.960 I'll smell it. It's got to sweet into it. No, no, 2:31:35.760 --> 2:31:38.400 it's like you want to you want to try my shot? 2:31:38.440 --> 2:31:41.160 You want to try my No no, no, no, no, 2:31:41.200 --> 2:31:44.360 no no no yeah. Yeah, I'm drinking yo oil. 2:31:44.640 --> 2:31:45.080 Japanese. 2:31:46.680 --> 2:31:52.400 No fuck? No is the minic? No no no, no, 2:31:53.200 --> 2:31:58.880 tell bring this Japanese. Give me some hitty we do that? Okay? 2:31:58.959 --> 2:32:00.560 This is okay? 2:32:00.879 --> 2:32:01.240 What is it? 2:32:01.440 --> 2:32:10.920 This is the Japanese deli on that Japanese ship. When 2:32:10.959 --> 2:32:13.080 you out that Japanese. 2:32:16.320 --> 2:32:16.760 Mm hmm. 2:32:18.320 --> 2:32:20.119 Look how many shots do you want to see? 2:32:20.160 --> 2:32:20.280 You know? 2:32:20.400 --> 2:32:21.200 Look how many shots? 2:32:21.280 --> 2:32:21.480 Wow? 2:32:22.680 --> 2:32:24.880 Were having fun. We've been wanting you on this show 2:32:24.920 --> 2:32:27.320 for so long. Damn okay o great, that was the fast. 2:32:27.520 --> 2:32:28.039 Let me know. 2:32:31.640 --> 2:32:34.279 You want to want another shout any just on deck? Okay, 2:32:34.879 --> 2:32:37.520 don't have a shout I got it right to ye, 2:32:37.840 --> 2:32:40.600 just on that just because man, we've been wanting doing 2:32:40.640 --> 2:32:43.840 this show for so long. Yes, thank you, Yes at 2:32:43.879 --> 2:32:44.279 the beginning. 2:32:44.560 --> 2:32:47.440 Can I tell you something, bro, I want to thank 2:32:47.480 --> 2:32:50.480 you man, like because when you when you started your podcast, 2:32:50.640 --> 2:32:53.680 it was like everybody was just like trying to eat 2:32:53.720 --> 2:32:56.520 and this is this was like the pandemic and all that. 2:32:56.760 --> 2:32:58.640 Everybody was just trying to get people on. But I 2:32:58.760 --> 2:33:00.600 was like, he had a purpose, Yeah, had a purpose. 2:33:00.760 --> 2:33:02.640 You had a purpose. It's like I want to give 2:33:02.680 --> 2:33:04.880 your flowers and we're moving for a lot of the 2:33:05.080 --> 2:33:07.760 artists to spend that's been out and that's one of 2:33:07.800 --> 2:33:09.400 the only reasons. 2:33:09.120 --> 2:33:09.760 You got on there. 2:33:09.879 --> 2:33:13.920 I got a shout out, uh my singer Deldric for 2:33:14.360 --> 2:33:18.880 red Ricky Rush all that because they was like they've 2:33:18.920 --> 2:33:22.080 been talking about jobs. Shout out to them, you know, 2:33:25.760 --> 2:33:28.000 and thank you for bigging bigging us up. But I 2:33:28.080 --> 2:33:30.480 gotta tell you, this is your day man, about you. 2:33:32.920 --> 2:33:34.160 It's a national holiday. 2:33:34.800 --> 2:33:44.800 Understand holiday, yeah man, Yeah, were waking up. I want 2:33:44.879 --> 2:33:48.640 to know. I wanted to well, yeah man, because. 2:33:51.320 --> 2:33:54.280 I tasting keep right there. 2:33:54.280 --> 2:33:58.640 I take I'm taking that right there. And you never 2:33:58.760 --> 2:34:01.640 did the verses. Yes, you never. No, I'm never gonna 2:34:01.680 --> 2:34:04.160 do that. You're never gonna do that. Nobody can funk 2:34:04.200 --> 2:34:09.520 with you. No, absolutely stop it. That's why you're not 2:34:09.600 --> 2:34:13.320 doing Do you want to say he ain't doing the 2:34:13.360 --> 2:34:15.000 bro Nobody come. 2:34:15.000 --> 2:34:19.760 Up with you. I'm sorry, No, It's again one of 2:34:19.840 --> 2:34:24.360 those things where I'm I'm totally this, that's not my thing. Man. 2:34:24.600 --> 2:34:30.440 It's like I've heard Jay couple and I'm not on 2:34:30.560 --> 2:34:35.080 that level. But nobody can't stand on stage what they're 2:34:35.160 --> 2:34:35.800 talking about. 2:34:36.160 --> 2:34:38.400 Like I don't. I don't want to do that. 2:34:38.760 --> 2:34:43.560 Like I just know it's not standing. You started ship 2:34:46.520 --> 2:34:48.440 to me like you said no. 2:34:50.920 --> 2:34:51.160 With me. 2:34:52.680 --> 2:34:52.960 Listen. 2:34:53.200 --> 2:34:55.680 I don't know. I just sound like to be I 2:34:55.760 --> 2:34:58.040 don't like saying that. I'm want very end on that stage. 2:34:58.200 --> 2:35:02.080 I'm very entertained by by that. I just don't want 2:35:02.120 --> 2:35:05.280 to be a part of it. I don't even know why, 2:35:05.680 --> 2:35:09.200 Like I just don't like I want to celebration. I 2:35:09.360 --> 2:35:12.440 get it, but no, I'll be there but no, I'm not. 2:35:13.720 --> 2:35:15.320 I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to 2:35:15.400 --> 2:35:15.560 do that. 2:35:15.840 --> 2:35:18.160 I'm not. Money doesn't make a difference, none of that. 2:35:23.640 --> 2:35:31.640 You can do it, you know that's supposed to supposed 2:35:32.000 --> 2:35:32.920 the money can't right. 2:35:33.600 --> 2:35:41.880 And they asked you management because to the two different people, 2:35:41.920 --> 2:35:49.240 now the artist you are man, yes, said I'm artist, amazing. 2:35:49.480 --> 2:35:52.240 The manager said wait a minute. So look, so look 2:35:52.560 --> 2:35:55.760 what happens if the right amount of money comes and 2:35:55.840 --> 2:35:58.680 they say to you will pick your opponent where y'all 2:35:58.680 --> 2:36:01.560 can celebrate each other's Like what what? 2:36:01.800 --> 2:36:04.720 Who would be that opponent that you will pick? It's 2:36:06.360 --> 2:36:12.720 now you're starting ship. Don't don't tell me you can't 2:36:12.760 --> 2:36:15.039 you can't come out, but you don't. 2:36:14.840 --> 2:36:16.880 Tell me that. I really don't know. 2:36:17.120 --> 2:36:23.520 That's just like uh, like you you you always sometimes 2:36:23.680 --> 2:36:25.920 like if you're interested in something that you just want 2:36:25.959 --> 2:36:28.640 to observe it and you see it, but you not 2:36:29.280 --> 2:36:31.400 want to try to kind of be a part of it. 2:36:31.760 --> 2:36:34.240 Like that's what that is like for me, Like I 2:36:34.600 --> 2:36:38.480 I like to see it. Yeah, I just don't know. 2:36:38.760 --> 2:36:41.720 I'm not trying to play the ball. Like that's what 2:36:41.840 --> 2:36:43.160 it is with me, you know what I mean? 2:36:43.920 --> 2:36:48.280 You know anything everything has its right because you're doing 2:36:48.360 --> 2:36:52.600 it just because it's something to do. But I don't 2:36:52.680 --> 2:36:55.000 really I have no interest in that. Yeah, I mean, 2:36:55.640 --> 2:36:58.120 but I will observe it, I'll look, I'll say I'll 2:36:58.240 --> 2:37:01.720 enjoy it and all that, but I don't really. Let's 2:37:02.000 --> 2:37:04.080 your catalog is so I know, I know, I know 2:37:04.200 --> 2:37:06.440 that's what keep everybody keep saying, I just don't want 2:37:06.480 --> 2:37:06.720 to do it. 2:37:07.280 --> 2:37:09.920 Has Swiss and Timblin called you, I'm sure Timblin the 2:37:10.760 --> 2:37:14.800 Associations has called me. Yeah, no, no, and what they 2:37:14.840 --> 2:37:17.400 were saying who they wanted you against. I don't even 2:37:17.520 --> 2:37:25.119 listen to it. She said that it's just real. 2:37:25.400 --> 2:37:26.080 I don't want to do it. 2:37:26.320 --> 2:37:26.920 I don't want to do it. 2:37:27.000 --> 2:37:29.240 Yeah, I've always been that kind of guy, like if 2:37:29.680 --> 2:37:31.880 I've never been kind of got to get a car 2:37:32.320 --> 2:37:36.640 or close or something because everyone else has it. But 2:37:36.840 --> 2:37:39.920 I've always been a person that if I get it 2:37:40.480 --> 2:37:45.000 because I actually like it. Never been a follower, always 2:37:45.040 --> 2:37:49.240 been a leader always. But the manager is also saying, 2:37:50.000 --> 2:37:56.000 if the money is right, we'll formulated so the way 2:37:56.080 --> 2:37:59.320 that you need it to be. And that's that's why 2:37:59.360 --> 2:38:02.279 I'm glad I'm a manager and are just to manage 2:38:02.320 --> 2:38:04.439 your part and your artist part, arguing. 2:38:06.920 --> 2:38:16.520 The situation because the man's like, lady right, so yeah, 2:38:22.240 --> 2:38:22.720 trusted me. 2:38:25.440 --> 2:38:26.000 It happens. 2:38:26.080 --> 2:38:33.320 It happens. Man, that's the funny ship. Man, what's the left? 2:38:33.400 --> 2:38:33.560 Man? 2:38:33.640 --> 2:38:39.680 You conquered there? Listen the reality show you was here, 2:38:39.720 --> 2:38:42.760 We go here. This is the first I knew on 2:38:42.879 --> 2:38:47.039 Big Brother, Big Brother you went overseas? Yeah, yeah, your. 2:38:46.640 --> 2:38:51.160 Phone all that, they take everything, they take everything. 2:38:51.320 --> 2:38:54.840 What else you wrong with outside your own? I was like, no, that, 2:38:55.000 --> 2:38:57.720 well your phone is you with cyborgs? I told you that, 2:38:57.959 --> 2:39:00.760 you know what I mean. But you know that's an 2:39:00.840 --> 2:39:04.440 extension of us. So once you take the phone from us, 2:39:04.760 --> 2:39:07.560 you take the radio, and you take all the outside 2:39:08.760 --> 2:39:12.600 situations that's happening. Now you only have us. You remember 2:39:12.760 --> 2:39:16.680 he was like, Yo, take all that stuff away, how 2:39:16.800 --> 2:39:17.120 can we. 2:39:18.400 --> 2:39:19.280 Exist or whatever? 2:39:20.120 --> 2:39:24.000 You would be surprised now that we still have a 2:39:24.040 --> 2:39:26.680 lot of the stuff that's in us to just exist. 2:39:27.040 --> 2:39:30.520 You know what I mean. It happens, but we are 2:39:30.600 --> 2:39:32.600 so dependent on this. 2:39:33.440 --> 2:39:37.600 We're so dependent on this, and so we're losing you 2:39:37.720 --> 2:39:40.800 go through with draw, I'm sure, man, we're losing so 2:39:41.040 --> 2:39:46.160 much depth in who we are as individuals. And just 2:39:46.320 --> 2:39:51.400 humans period. We don't talk to each other, you know 2:39:51.440 --> 2:39:53.800 what I mean. Like when I take my kids out, 2:39:55.440 --> 2:39:59.320 I tell them give me your phones. Give me your phones? Wow, 2:40:00.080 --> 2:40:00.879 put them right there. 2:40:01.160 --> 2:40:01.640 You know what I mean? 2:40:02.680 --> 2:40:03.200 Talk to me? 2:40:03.840 --> 2:40:04.320 You know what I mean? 2:40:04.959 --> 2:40:09.320 Because if you don't do that, man, how can you 2:40:09.560 --> 2:40:12.360 How can you know about someone? How can you know 2:40:12.400 --> 2:40:14.760 about your seed? I can you know about the person 2:40:14.840 --> 2:40:20.400 that you loved the most? So, yeah, man, when we 2:40:20.480 --> 2:40:23.560 were over there, I was like in a different world. Bro, 2:40:23.920 --> 2:40:25.240 did you feel like you was like one of the 2:40:25.280 --> 2:40:27.920 first people that tried that. They tried to cancel at first, 2:40:28.320 --> 2:40:29.840 because that was like yeah with the. 2:40:31.560 --> 2:40:34.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I didn't. 2:40:33.920 --> 2:40:36.080 Know you tried to kiss you without your permission. I 2:40:36.200 --> 2:40:38.400 didn't know it until I got off of it because 2:40:38.440 --> 2:40:41.200 you ain't have your phone. Yeah, And so I look, 2:40:41.280 --> 2:40:43.200 so it's live a film, it's live. 2:40:43.400 --> 2:40:45.560 Everything is like they got cameras everywhere, you. 2:40:45.600 --> 2:40:48.200 Know what I mean by because don't they edit and 2:40:48.280 --> 2:40:50.920 then send it to the world of course? Okay, but 2:40:51.320 --> 2:40:52.280 you don't know what they're editing. 2:40:52.440 --> 2:40:58.039 Yeah, So that episode came out while I was still Yeah, 2:40:58.120 --> 2:41:00.959 so you had no idea there and I almost made 2:41:00.959 --> 2:41:02.840 it to the end, what happened? I don't know what 2:41:02.879 --> 2:41:09.359 you're talking about when transgender uh a person. 2:41:10.760 --> 2:41:12.920 Jokingly it was like give me a kiss, and I. 2:41:13.000 --> 2:41:14.240 Was like, oh, what are you doing? 2:41:14.800 --> 2:41:17.600 And it wasn't you know it was what it was. 2:41:17.720 --> 2:41:20.119 But I was just like I didn't know the effect 2:41:20.200 --> 2:41:21.760 that it would have on. 2:41:21.879 --> 2:41:25.720 Me, just saying all of a sudden anti, I was like, 2:41:25.840 --> 2:41:27.720 what the hell what are you talking about? 2:41:28.040 --> 2:41:31.039 But one thing that I could always say that most 2:41:31.120 --> 2:41:35.400 people understood the situation and understood where where it was 2:41:36.240 --> 2:41:40.039 and it wasn't. It didn't didn't grant gain legs because 2:41:40.080 --> 2:41:43.560 they already knew it was what it was. 2:41:43.680 --> 2:41:47.240 So but I was just surprised. Once I got out, 2:41:47.320 --> 2:41:51.879 I was just like, what what happened? Because I was. 2:41:51.920 --> 2:41:58.520 Hearing I won't say no names, but big radio guys 2:41:58.959 --> 2:42:01.600 was like he shooting shoot them? He should have did this, 2:42:01.840 --> 2:42:03.520 he should have did it. And I was like, nah, 2:42:03.520 --> 2:42:05.120 I ain't with all that, you know what I mean? 2:42:05.280 --> 2:42:10.920 No, I did what whoa boom? I'm whatever, move move forward. 2:42:11.040 --> 2:42:12.360 It wasn't that serious for you in that moment you 2:42:12.400 --> 2:42:14.080 did what you did, because it is. 2:42:14.240 --> 2:42:17.760 Never that serious with me. Bro, never like I'm like, boom, 2:42:17.879 --> 2:42:19.720 this is what it is. Move forward, you know what 2:42:19.720 --> 2:42:22.680 I mean? When you got the kids that I have 2:42:22.920 --> 2:42:27.120 in grandkids, you see things in a different life and 2:42:27.240 --> 2:42:30.640 so you put it in perspective. You don't act always 2:42:30.920 --> 2:42:35.840 on the things that you know constitute you acting. Sometimes 2:42:35.920 --> 2:42:39.960 as a younger individual, the way that I did it 2:42:40.080 --> 2:42:42.040 then probably wouldn't have been the way that I did 2:42:42.080 --> 2:42:44.560 it in twenty five. At twenty five, you feel me, 2:42:44.840 --> 2:42:48.199 so you know, and that's what's most important. With age 2:42:48.240 --> 2:42:52.199 comes wisdom, and so you grow, you learn, you move forward, 2:42:53.000 --> 2:42:56.800 and you set a precedent and an example for other 2:42:56.879 --> 2:42:59.480 people to build on. And then now they have something 2:42:59.520 --> 2:43:03.520 to look look at and just you know, do whatever 2:43:03.600 --> 2:43:04.640 it is that they need to do. 2:43:05.280 --> 2:43:07.320 Moving forward, right, and everybody grows. 2:43:07.440 --> 2:43:10.560 That's the thing that's crazy about today that everything is filmed. 2:43:10.600 --> 2:43:12.560 Everything is everybody's filming themselves. 2:43:13.000 --> 2:43:18.039 Crazy. But I'm like, you can't grow from. 2:43:17.920 --> 2:43:21.120 That because everybody keeps going back to that, yeah, problem 2:43:21.200 --> 2:43:24.320 of where we're at today. You know, as humans, we grow, 2:43:24.480 --> 2:43:29.039 you mature, you learn, you experience, and you change fact 2:43:29.200 --> 2:43:30.959 and now they keep bringing people no, no. 2:43:31.040 --> 2:43:33.360 You are this person when you was this age or 2:43:33.400 --> 2:43:35.200 this age or this age. That's not fair. 2:43:35.400 --> 2:43:40.440 That's so important, man, like, because you can't even look 2:43:40.440 --> 2:43:42.480 at a lot of the things that's going on sometimes 2:43:42.520 --> 2:43:45.680 in the basketball situation, boxing situation and all that. You know, 2:43:45.800 --> 2:43:48.320 I love boxing and all that, right, and then I 2:43:48.400 --> 2:43:51.160 look at, you know, certain individuals in boxing, and I'm like, 2:43:51.680 --> 2:43:54.480 you can't give a certain individual a certain amount of 2:43:54.520 --> 2:43:57.000 money and expect them to do what a fifty year 2:43:57.080 --> 2:44:00.200 old do. You got to understand what you deal with, 2:44:00.560 --> 2:44:03.840 you know what I'm saying. So yes, wrong, right, indifferent. 2:44:04.400 --> 2:44:06.880 You've got to understand what what it is. So you 2:44:07.080 --> 2:44:08.959 can't you can't. 2:44:10.400 --> 2:44:11.920 Just just just just beat that. 2:44:12.040 --> 2:44:15.360 Individual down and thinking that he's supposed to be that 2:44:15.800 --> 2:44:18.560 person or she's supposed to be that person when there's 2:44:18.600 --> 2:44:20.680 so much put in their lap at a young age 2:44:20.760 --> 2:44:23.280 and an early early age. And it's not to give 2:44:23.360 --> 2:44:28.800 them him or her past, but understand what you're dealing with. 2:44:29.240 --> 2:44:32.000 You know, it's not fair, really, you know what I mean, 2:44:32.160 --> 2:44:36.400 It's truly not fair. So yeah, yeah, would you do 2:44:36.720 --> 2:44:39.640 a big brother again? No? Nah? 2:44:41.120 --> 2:44:41.920 Because of that. 2:44:42.160 --> 2:44:47.000 Because of that lesson, I always felt like, man, once 2:44:47.080 --> 2:44:49.640 you do something and you have success at it, and 2:44:49.840 --> 2:44:53.080 you've done it and and you've conquered, whatever. 2:44:52.879 --> 2:44:56.039 It is, you move forward behind you. How about theater? 2:44:56.120 --> 2:44:59.640 Would you again? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 2:44:59.480 --> 2:45:01.680 Because I thinking that experience. Yeah, I think I think that. 2:45:03.040 --> 2:45:05.560 I think that shoppens you. I think that shoppens you 2:45:05.640 --> 2:45:09.920 and it allows you to continue on your path to 2:45:10.120 --> 2:45:13.080 just be great and just to move forward in uh 2:45:13.680 --> 2:45:16.680 other situations. Man, I think I think theater is great 2:45:16.760 --> 2:45:20.080 because you have no chance to do it over when 2:45:20.160 --> 2:45:22.000 you do it there. That's what it is. 2:45:22.560 --> 2:45:24.360 If you get stuck caught up. 2:45:24.320 --> 2:45:28.160 Even you know, like anything that we do, we can 2:45:28.640 --> 2:45:32.120 slice dice, but on theater, when there's a million people 2:45:32.160 --> 2:45:34.160 on our people, you know, thousands of people out there 2:45:34.160 --> 2:45:36.600 and you're on the stage. You got to get through it. 2:45:37.000 --> 2:45:40.720 But that's what sharpens you. That's what shoppens Even if 2:45:40.720 --> 2:45:42.800 you make a mistake, you just you gotta keep going. 2:45:42.920 --> 2:45:44.600 It's not like that over. 2:45:44.800 --> 2:45:47.200 You can't you can't say, oh yo, bo, it's a 2:45:47.280 --> 2:45:49.560 thousand people out there, what are you talking about. You 2:45:49.720 --> 2:45:53.240 got to keep they don't know you made a misw Okay, 2:45:53.320 --> 2:45:54.960 there you go. 2:45:55.320 --> 2:45:57.760 There you go. You gotta move, you gotta move, you 2:45:57.800 --> 2:46:02.400 gotta move forward, And that shoppens you. That as long 2:46:02.480 --> 2:46:05.000 as you have that in your mind that you cannot 2:46:05.080 --> 2:46:07.440 say cut, let's do it over. 2:46:08.000 --> 2:46:13.200 I'm sorry, that sharpens you. As long as you have 2:46:13.360 --> 2:46:15.400 that crutch to say cut. 2:46:16.040 --> 2:46:18.960 That ain't sharping in you, right, that ain't sharpening you. 2:46:19.280 --> 2:46:22.039 Like when you don't have that. You got to continue, 2:46:22.080 --> 2:46:24.200 You got to think on your feet, You got to 2:46:24.680 --> 2:46:25.279 move forward. 2:46:25.520 --> 2:46:30.520 That's what's sharpened. Sh Yeah, now that's what I touch 2:46:30.520 --> 2:46:34.360 on this lightly because like I said, you said, you 2:46:34.400 --> 2:46:36.520 said you've been in the game for twenty seven years. Yeah, 2:46:36.680 --> 2:46:39.640 I've been in twenty five, I believe. And I've seen 2:46:39.680 --> 2:46:41.640 you all over the world, and like I said, I 2:46:41.760 --> 2:46:45.680 have never seen you depressed personally. I've always seen you 2:46:46.560 --> 2:46:49.760 like happy. First, you always seen each other, gave each 2:46:49.760 --> 2:46:54.160 other love. And when I read that you dealt with depression, 2:46:54.920 --> 2:46:58.119 I didn't understand why. But then I read it deeper 2:46:58.240 --> 2:47:02.480 and it's about your parents and how it came back 2:47:02.520 --> 2:47:05.840 to back now. And then I also read that it 2:47:05.959 --> 2:47:09.080 was a past of that actually helped you with that. 2:47:09.360 --> 2:47:11.279 You want to talk about that process? Yeah, absolutely. 2:47:11.840 --> 2:47:15.000 I attended from the Heart Church ministries. I got saved 2:47:15.040 --> 2:47:18.320 in two thousand and five, and so needless to say, 2:47:18.440 --> 2:47:22.200 like my dad committed suicide, shot himself in the had 2:47:22.800 --> 2:47:25.920 ninety nine, and then my mom died the next year 2:47:26.120 --> 2:47:29.720 two thousand, right, So needless to say, come on, man, 2:47:29.920 --> 2:47:33.480 like you're going to go through whatever it is, whatever 2:47:33.520 --> 2:47:35.680 it is that you're going to happen, whatever. 2:47:35.640 --> 2:47:36.720 You're going to go through that. 2:47:37.000 --> 2:47:37.280 And so. 2:47:39.200 --> 2:47:42.879 For me, again I always use the word therapeutic. Music 2:47:43.000 --> 2:47:45.040 was therapeutic, you know what I mean. And I was 2:47:45.080 --> 2:47:49.840 able to navigate my way through life through music and 2:47:50.080 --> 2:47:53.640 to just try to find my way. And you know, 2:47:53.720 --> 2:47:57.240 in two thousand and five, you know, my my then 2:47:57.400 --> 2:48:00.560 wife now ex wife, still great friends and all that. 2:48:03.440 --> 2:48:05.400 I used to do. They used to go to church 2:48:05.520 --> 2:48:09.280 all the time. I used to like, they used to 2:48:09.320 --> 2:48:09.879 go to church. 2:48:10.000 --> 2:48:12.600 In my makeup for not going to church, I used 2:48:12.600 --> 2:48:14.880 to buy them flowers every Sunday when they go to church. 2:48:15.200 --> 2:48:19.880 So when they go to church, I go to this store. 2:48:20.000 --> 2:48:22.280 I'll by the flowers, my daughters and all them. And 2:48:22.560 --> 2:48:24.720 when they come back, I got them flowers and all that. 2:48:25.360 --> 2:48:31.560 But one day, one day, one day, I just say, 2:48:32.600 --> 2:48:33.800 what is church stuff about? 2:48:34.040 --> 2:48:34.840 This is that therapy? 2:48:34.920 --> 2:48:37.040 At first, yeah, I was, I was doing what I do, 2:48:37.240 --> 2:48:39.720 and then I was like, okay, let me, let me, 2:48:41.040 --> 2:48:43.959 let me go through this. And so I kept going. 2:48:44.720 --> 2:48:47.440 And then the one thing about church, and you know 2:48:47.720 --> 2:48:51.800 the people that are in church, uh you know, uh 2:48:53.440 --> 2:48:56.240 pastors and all that kind of stuff. That day it 2:48:56.320 --> 2:48:59.280 makes you feel very happy. It makes you feel very 2:49:00.120 --> 2:49:04.720 He gives you a reset, gives you like, oh, man, okay, 2:49:04.879 --> 2:49:07.000 I can do this, I can do that. And so 2:49:07.160 --> 2:49:09.680 there was just one Sunday that you know, I felt 2:49:11.440 --> 2:49:18.440 moved to go to the you know, the front and 2:49:18.640 --> 2:49:21.720 just get saved. And so from that point on, of 2:49:21.800 --> 2:49:23.920 course I made friends and all that kind of stuff. 2:49:24.080 --> 2:49:28.160 And there was one guy, uh, a porter Losson, a 2:49:28.280 --> 2:49:34.040 minister Losson, and we became great, great friends. And he 2:49:34.200 --> 2:49:36.080 just talked talked me through it. He was a he 2:49:36.240 --> 2:49:38.880 was an older cat, and he just talked me through it. 2:49:39.200 --> 2:49:42.240 And I, you know, I thank God for him, you 2:49:42.280 --> 2:49:44.840 know what I mean, because he's a good cat. He's 2:49:44.879 --> 2:49:47.440 still doing what he's doing right now, and he's the 2:49:47.480 --> 2:49:53.600 perfect example of what you know, upstanding, you know, man 2:49:54.080 --> 2:49:56.640 should should be, you know what I mean. And so 2:49:57.600 --> 2:50:00.440 I've never seen any fault in him, you know what 2:50:00.480 --> 2:50:02.840 I mean. So if you're going to fall, not no fault. 2:50:02.840 --> 2:50:04.600 If you're going to follow. I mean, you're going to 2:50:04.680 --> 2:50:07.240 follow somebody. You got to follow somebody that's been the 2:50:07.360 --> 2:50:11.080 example of what you're you're striving to be. And so 2:50:12.280 --> 2:50:14.840 when I saw him and what he continued to do, 2:50:15.280 --> 2:50:18.119 because I was always apprehensible about anybody, I'm. 2:50:18.040 --> 2:50:21.879 Like, all y'all money, you're lying and all. 2:50:21.720 --> 2:50:23.279 That, like politicians. 2:50:23.720 --> 2:50:27.600 So when I saw that, I was like, this is 2:50:27.680 --> 2:50:30.160 somebody I can at least listen to, you know what 2:50:30.200 --> 2:50:30.440 I mean. 2:50:30.560 --> 2:50:35.200 So you know, in my mind, he proved himself and 2:50:35.280 --> 2:50:38.199 so I continued to listen to him and I still 2:50:38.280 --> 2:50:39.760 talk to him to this day. 2:50:39.920 --> 2:50:43.840 You feel like he helped you out more to therapy, Yeah, absolutely, 2:50:44.280 --> 2:50:46.200 because trying to medicate you. 2:50:47.560 --> 2:50:49.800 Because when you're talking to somebody that's went through the 2:50:49.879 --> 2:50:53.840 same thing that you've went through, good point kill, all 2:50:53.879 --> 2:50:56.920 the kind of craziness and just all kinds of stuff 2:50:56.959 --> 2:50:59.840 that he's been through. Man, I ain't been through all 2:51:00.080 --> 2:51:04.600 the constant But if you can change, I know I 2:51:04.680 --> 2:51:05.240 can change. 2:51:06.080 --> 2:51:10.280 So that's what was was major for me. Man, That's 2:51:10.320 --> 2:51:11.040 what was major. 2:51:11.600 --> 2:51:14.680 You know. It was another thing that I noticed was 2:51:15.280 --> 2:51:19.800 you co signing your ex wife's new relationship. Absolutely, that's 2:51:19.879 --> 2:51:27.280 a grip, right, Professor griff Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2:51:27.560 --> 2:51:29.280 I think at the end of the day, as an 2:51:29.360 --> 2:51:32.000 example as a parent, period, as a as a man, 2:51:32.360 --> 2:51:35.919 if you have kids, you want to extend. 2:51:35.520 --> 2:51:38.920 That to your kids. Why do we have to go 2:51:39.000 --> 2:51:43.800 to court? Why do we have to in the court. 2:51:43.920 --> 2:51:56.760 Look, as long as you're doing extra step kids, that's extra. 2:51:58.440 --> 2:51:58.959 Extra fun. 2:51:59.840 --> 2:52:03.120 And that's what I'm saying for us, Like it's a 2:52:03.280 --> 2:52:04.240 generational thing. 2:52:04.600 --> 2:52:06.400 Listen to me. Let me tell you something. 2:52:07.120 --> 2:52:10.640 How many like in my time, like we had. 2:52:11.720 --> 2:52:15.000 Family reunions, we had all that kind of stuff, the 2:52:15.160 --> 2:52:18.800 uncle and our uncles choke us up, we're doing bad 2:52:18.879 --> 2:52:19.720 in school and all. 2:52:19.640 --> 2:52:20.240 That kind of stuff. 2:52:20.800 --> 2:52:23.520 That kind of stuff really doesn't happen no more, you 2:52:23.600 --> 2:52:24.199 know what I'm saying. 2:52:24.840 --> 2:52:29.320 So we have to as grown men, have to extend 2:52:29.440 --> 2:52:32.960 that same courtesy to our kids and say, listen, everything 2:52:33.480 --> 2:52:37.039 always isn't going to be you know, perferb for whatever 2:52:37.560 --> 2:52:40.199 you might get the voice, you might go through, whatever 2:52:40.240 --> 2:52:41.840 you got to do, But this is how you do 2:52:42.920 --> 2:52:44.680 after that, that's how. 2:52:45.360 --> 2:52:47.200 This is how you make it right. This is the 2:52:47.400 --> 2:52:52.080 example that you set for your kids. That's what I do. Man, 2:52:53.000 --> 2:52:57.200 I'm not mad. I'm mad at myself. I fucked up. 2:52:57.520 --> 2:52:58.080 I cheated. 2:52:58.160 --> 2:53:01.119 I did what I wasn't supposed to do. You understand 2:53:01.120 --> 2:53:04.480 what I'm saying. So so so so at the end 2:53:04.520 --> 2:53:08.400 of the day, it ain't my it ain't. It ain't. 2:53:08.879 --> 2:53:09.240 I'm not. 2:53:09.360 --> 2:53:13.240 I shouldn't be mad at him for scooping up a 2:53:13.360 --> 2:53:16.160 good woman that you was too dumb to know that 2:53:16.280 --> 2:53:24.560 you had. That's my fault. Accept that, man, Accept. 2:53:24.240 --> 2:53:24.720 That, dude. 2:53:25.160 --> 2:53:26.000 You know what I'm saying. Yo. 2:53:26.160 --> 2:53:26.360 Man. 2:53:27.000 --> 2:53:30.440 It was one time I asked, I asked him to 2:53:30.520 --> 2:53:32.360 go on the boat. He was like, I ain't going 2:53:32.440 --> 2:53:33.480 to the boat with that, nigga. 2:53:38.240 --> 2:53:57.040 That You're not wrong for that. You're not wrong, That's what. 2:53:58.120 --> 2:54:01.560 That's a good thing about it. That's me, man, that's 2:54:01.920 --> 2:54:04.840 you know. I mean, I've always tried to extend that. 2:54:06.480 --> 2:54:09.480 Got to be in a boat. I love boats. 2:54:10.040 --> 2:54:10.800 I love boat. 2:54:12.040 --> 2:54:13.800 That sounds a little yeah. 2:54:24.680 --> 2:54:28.480 Besides that, is there anything you ever regret in your career? 2:54:32.680 --> 2:54:38.640 Never taking control of it from the beginning? 2:54:41.920 --> 2:54:42.200 That's it? 2:54:43.040 --> 2:54:46.560 Like, meaning you wish you to manage yourself from the beginning. Absolutely, 2:54:46.640 --> 2:54:48.600 How can you regret that you wouldn't know you were young? 2:54:48.760 --> 2:54:49.199 You early? 2:54:49.360 --> 2:54:50.879 Well, you said what I regret? 2:54:51.959 --> 2:54:55.680 What I regret like what I as where I am now, Like, 2:54:55.879 --> 2:54:57.320 damn if I knew then? 2:54:57.640 --> 2:54:58.440 What if you knew? 2:54:58.720 --> 2:55:01.080 I feel like I didn't know. Grit mostly is winning 2:55:01.200 --> 2:55:03.160 something that you could have actually done. But in that 2:55:03.440 --> 2:55:06.199 in that time period, you wouldn't have known any different. 2:55:06.320 --> 2:55:09.440 I agree with that, regretting you would have messed up. 2:55:09.520 --> 2:55:11.800 You were the messager that might have been manager your 2:55:11.920 --> 2:55:13.600 own self as a manager back then. 2:55:13.680 --> 2:55:14.400 Did you know you. 2:55:15.879 --> 2:55:19.720 Would have regretted be in your manager? Manipulate you right, 2:55:19.959 --> 2:55:22.160 you gotta learn to go through I keep you saying, 2:55:22.320 --> 2:55:24.040 keep saying with age coming wisdom. 2:55:25.440 --> 2:55:25.840 I love that. 2:55:26.000 --> 2:55:29.680 So yeah, you had to like you know, you know 2:55:29.800 --> 2:55:33.519 what I like? I go the bathroom of course, imbout 2:55:33.560 --> 2:55:42.600 to leave, Bothy all, I feel bad. I've had a 2:55:42.640 --> 2:55:45.880 twenty five year career. Favorite part of my career so 2:55:46.040 --> 2:55:51.680 I was being podcasting right now. It's me in nineteen 2:55:51.720 --> 2:55:54.840 ninety eight. What is your favorite part of your career? 2:55:55.720 --> 2:55:58.320 Like if it was one year, good Boys Down Too, 2:56:00.400 --> 2:56:02.200 or just whatever you want to say, I got you. 2:56:04.480 --> 2:56:07.480 I think it was probably the second album, second CD, 2:56:07.760 --> 2:56:08.720 because you know. 2:56:11.720 --> 2:56:13.640 They always think you can't do it twice. 2:56:16.040 --> 2:56:20.160 Right, So and I was scared, bro, I was very 2:56:20.200 --> 2:56:22.360 scared because when you're coming out with a song like 2:56:22.480 --> 2:56:27.119 Pony and I'll Do Anything, I'm Sorry, which was written 2:56:27.200 --> 2:56:32.039 by Missy and all that, that took me to a plateau. 2:56:32.120 --> 2:56:33.760 I was like two point five I think it was 2:56:34.080 --> 2:56:42.960 sales or whatever. So that's a very very hard, uh 2:56:43.680 --> 2:56:49.240 situation to mimic again on the second time. So I 2:56:49.440 --> 2:56:53.760 was very happy when So Anxious came out. I was 2:56:54.240 --> 2:56:57.920 very happy because I was like, that's it right there, 2:56:58.040 --> 2:57:02.520 because I did what's so differenterent uh. That was the 2:57:02.840 --> 2:57:06.680 leading single off one hundred genuine and so the Sony 2:57:06.760 --> 2:57:08.640 and all them was trying to cross me over and 2:57:08.760 --> 2:57:10.640 all that, and I was like, I don't want to 2:57:10.720 --> 2:57:11.440 lose my base. 2:57:11.680 --> 2:57:13.600 I even knew that then, you know, when he was 2:57:13.640 --> 2:57:14.240 asking me like. 2:57:15.400 --> 2:57:17.840 Did you know this? And did you I've always I 2:57:17.920 --> 2:57:20.680 don't even know what it is, like, I always saw 2:57:20.760 --> 2:57:23.000 it and I was like, y'all gonna mess me up, 2:57:23.240 --> 2:57:24.240 y'all going to mess me up. 2:57:24.879 --> 2:57:28.920 And so when So Anxious came out, I was like, 2:57:30.800 --> 2:57:33.120 that's that was what my moment was. 2:57:33.360 --> 2:57:36.600 I was like even even over Pony actually, because you 2:57:36.680 --> 2:57:37.960 don't even know what that is. 2:57:38.360 --> 2:57:39.720 You're just living in the moment. 2:57:40.480 --> 2:57:45.520 But after you experienced all that stuff generated by the 2:57:46.480 --> 2:57:52.720 uh the success of those moments. You then know if 2:57:52.760 --> 2:57:56.080 you pay attention, he's like, Okay, now I gotta, I gotta, 2:57:56.680 --> 2:57:58.520 I gotta make sure I do this again. 2:57:59.040 --> 2:58:01.440 So when uh So Anxious came out, that was one 2:58:01.480 --> 2:58:03.800 of those moments, right man. 2:58:04.360 --> 2:58:08.760 Yeah, man, this has been such a beautiful fuck man. 2:58:08.840 --> 2:58:11.080 I ain't gonna lie. We've been waiting for this for 2:58:11.200 --> 2:58:13.600 six years. We've been stopping your ass. Stop. 2:58:14.879 --> 2:58:15.760 We've been talking about it. 2:58:18.160 --> 2:58:21.720 Because we really sincerely, you know, this is what our 2:58:21.760 --> 2:58:22.400 show is about. 2:58:22.440 --> 2:58:25.760 Our show is I can't stand God for y'all, bro. 2:58:26.040 --> 2:58:28.400 I can't stand when people like you know, there's no 2:58:28.560 --> 2:58:31.040 Gramre in music that has more than ten years and 2:58:31.120 --> 2:58:33.800 they have a word washed up for them. Oh they 2:58:33.879 --> 2:58:37.320 call them season like rolling stones. All these motherfuckers still 2:58:37.360 --> 2:58:41.160 touring for fifteen thousand years. It's some niggas that come 2:58:41.200 --> 2:58:46.840 out there and just die right and they still support 2:58:46.879 --> 2:58:52.720 their ass and they yo come on. So this is 2:58:52.760 --> 2:58:58.200 the reason why they come on and other Gramas and 2:58:58.280 --> 2:59:00.760 music and we ship on our own, you know what 2:59:00.800 --> 2:59:02.960 I mean? And I hate that. 2:59:03.200 --> 2:59:06.120 I hate that, you know, you know what? So I 2:59:06.280 --> 2:59:07.200 hate that, man, I. 2:59:07.320 --> 2:59:10.800 Really I hate that. I really love to see when 2:59:10.840 --> 2:59:13.200 I see you guys on tour, I love to see it. 2:59:13.320 --> 2:59:16.200 I really like. I just got recent a chance to 2:59:16.240 --> 2:59:22.960 see NAS clan in Paris. I got lightly offered to 2:59:23.000 --> 2:59:26.800 get on stage, and I was just like, nah, I 2:59:26.879 --> 2:59:29.760 wanted to fan out and I did and I did. 2:59:29.840 --> 2:59:34.960 I notice footage and I don't. 2:59:35.280 --> 2:59:36.640 I want to give it up to my people and 2:59:36.720 --> 2:59:38.920 I want my people to understand that. And I went 2:59:39.040 --> 2:59:44.720 backstage say then I went to the of course I 2:59:44.800 --> 2:59:45.680 was with NAS. 2:59:46.879 --> 2:59:49.640 Of course people from Queens from the same damn the 2:59:49.800 --> 2:59:54.840 same place. So but I just I just loved to 2:59:55.800 --> 3:00:01.280 see the support and I just want us to get 3:00:01.640 --> 3:00:04.560 you said it earlier, like I think that that's what 3:00:04.720 --> 3:00:08.119 we have to do. Support please other like for real ladies, man, 3:00:09.040 --> 3:00:11.840 this is this is definitely one of the reasons because 3:00:11.879 --> 3:00:14.160 you're a legend. Man, thank you for I can thank you, 3:00:14.280 --> 3:00:18.640 brother King, and you're a good brother. And you know 3:00:18.800 --> 3:00:22.120 you aspire so many people. I try, I try, you 3:00:22.240 --> 3:00:25.800 do You aspire people constant basis. You make babies and 3:00:25.879 --> 3:00:28.720 you make other people make babies. You make So when 3:00:28.760 --> 3:00:30.800 you when you see Nick, can you ready hold on? 3:00:30.879 --> 3:00:32.800 Hold on? I'm gonna deal with you. 3:00:33.720 --> 3:00:37.040 You see everybody talking about how many now babies? Nick Cannon, 3:00:37.600 --> 3:00:38.680 what did you think about that? 3:00:42.959 --> 3:00:43.920 I told you not to do it. 3:00:44.160 --> 3:00:45.199 Oil yeah. 3:00:47.400 --> 3:00:52.000 And feeding toes no more, no more. But when you 3:00:52.160 --> 3:00:55.280 see that man you take his shot, you gotta take 3:00:55.280 --> 3:00:59.280 my shot. Okay, okay, all right, you just mixed that. 3:00:59.400 --> 3:01:02.680 That was yeah, you just mixed to that. Let's go, boy, 3:01:02.720 --> 3:01:10.920 let's the universe person that drinks to do that. My 3:01:11.000 --> 3:01:14.879 brother gonna have to pick me up there right when 3:01:14.920 --> 3:01:21.119 you see like you know what all and then you're 3:01:21.160 --> 3:01:24.480 like nigga because because they said just now recently that 3:01:24.680 --> 3:01:27.120 he has ten and after ten he was having to 3:01:27.160 --> 3:01:29.080 pay child's a board. Did you know that that a 3:01:29.120 --> 3:01:34.840 real thing? That shi it is on the block? Wait 3:01:35.080 --> 3:01:41.320 saying that it's heavywhere who wait? You're telling me he 3:01:41.480 --> 3:01:43.760 made he made an investment and his child support. 3:01:58.680 --> 3:01:59.120 I can't hear. 3:01:59.720 --> 3:02:02.920 No, it's all over the blogs. 3:02:03.680 --> 3:02:04.199 You don't. 3:02:10.240 --> 3:02:12.600 Nobody goes by what he says. Now, No, it's on 3:02:12.760 --> 3:02:14.400 the blogs though it's not. It's not him, it's not 3:02:14.480 --> 3:02:18.320 Paul story. He said, I don't know about taxes, the boy, 3:02:19.200 --> 3:02:19.880 I don't know about that. 3:02:23.240 --> 3:02:25.440 Nobody listened to this because I yes, No, I can't 3:02:25.520 --> 3:02:27.920 imagine number of kids where you. 3:02:27.959 --> 3:02:29.119 Don't have to pay for the kids. 3:02:30.440 --> 3:02:33.480 I don't. I don't imagine that neither. But the story 3:02:33.600 --> 3:02:37.640 has been reported. He has been reported, and you got nine. Right, 3:02:38.600 --> 3:02:47.959 You're like, well, now that you mentioned it that all 3:02:48.040 --> 3:02:53.200 my kids are girl see robertson there out here your 3:02:53.480 --> 3:02:57.000 kids there, Roberts and Narrow our here he got something pregnant? 3:02:57.280 --> 3:03:01.280 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Robert Narrow got he got one 3:03:01.360 --> 3:03:04.280 on the way. Well I got I'm still in the trench. Yeah, 3:03:04.959 --> 3:03:07.879 he's seventy nine. What's funny is I actually want more? 3:03:08.240 --> 3:03:11.280 That's all I mean? You got nine right. You would 3:03:11.360 --> 3:03:15.120 be the one to say you want more, get two more? Dominican? 3:03:15.320 --> 3:03:21.200 You must be Dominican. All my Dominican friends advocate for 3:03:21.360 --> 3:03:24.240 Max big family. 3:03:25.879 --> 3:03:29.840 So let's let's just count in the music business people. 3:03:29.640 --> 3:03:31.320 Who got over off. 3:03:33.320 --> 3:03:37.959 Has that been pirds? How many DMX Yeah, old dirty bastard. 3:03:38.160 --> 3:03:44.520 Yeah yeah they can't Yeah, they can't get up there? 3:03:46.000 --> 3:03:46.360 How many? 3:03:48.920 --> 3:03:53.080 Jesus I didn't know that because it was only feet. 3:03:53.200 --> 3:03:56.800 Well it's still you know, bigger the NBA, because you're 3:03:56.800 --> 3:04:01.920 in those numbers. No, I'm about six. You got I 3:04:01.920 --> 3:04:05.360 said about seven, you got the other, Yeah you got more? 3:04:08.040 --> 3:04:19.480 Yeah but yeah yeah yeah, been outside, man. I can't 3:04:19.560 --> 3:04:22.560 thank you enough for my brother. I really really, really 3:04:23.280 --> 3:04:26.879 really enjoyed this thing. Well I really hold on. Let's 3:04:27.120 --> 3:04:29.119 ending with the shot. I got the shot. You want 3:04:29.560 --> 3:04:33.480 this right? No, I've been telling him to stop. Don't know. 3:04:34.480 --> 3:04:36.640 Everybody be trying to be nice to UFN like yeah, 3:04:37.120 --> 3:04:44.480 and then they hit it. But I really sincerely wanted 3:04:44.480 --> 3:04:47.240 to give you your flowers face to face man and man, 3:04:47.320 --> 3:04:52.000 what you have been done? Been doing? NBA got ten kids? 3:04:52.160 --> 3:04:57.120 Jesus is how old is he? He can't be twenty 3:04:57.200 --> 3:05:03.600 one with ten kids? No, outside he got he's he 3:05:03.720 --> 3:05:05.400 got all y'all beat then if he. 3:05:07.040 --> 3:05:12.160 Is, man, this makes God bless. 3:05:13.879 --> 3:05:14.080 God. 3:05:15.120 --> 3:05:20.120 Outside went outside that like said, calling, I respect that, 3:05:23.040 --> 3:05:25.000 my bad. I don't know, I don't know. Listen, but 3:05:25.200 --> 3:05:30.680 listen listen my brother, yo, listen. You are truly a legend. 3:05:30.920 --> 3:05:35.560 Thank you, icon. You are truly what young artists need 3:05:35.760 --> 3:05:41.680 to see because young artists are making disposable music, and 3:05:41.840 --> 3:05:45.160 you have made lifetime music. You have made global music. 3:05:45.560 --> 3:05:49.680 You have made music that every single race, color, creed 3:05:50.040 --> 3:05:53.200 can relate to. And it's standing in the test of time, 3:05:53.280 --> 3:05:56.520 I can still there and like that's why, Like you know, 3:05:56.600 --> 3:06:00.440 I did Loving Hip Hop and I did Marriage boot Can, 3:06:00.879 --> 3:06:03.320 and I always wanted to tell people like sometimes I 3:06:03.440 --> 3:06:05.920 just wanted to explore. And it's like, I know, that's 3:06:05.920 --> 3:06:09.160 the same thing about you. Like you didn't do reality 3:06:09.280 --> 3:06:11.880 show theater because you needed it. You did it because 3:06:11.879 --> 3:06:15.200 she was exercising, and I relate to that. But I 3:06:15.320 --> 3:06:18.880 relate to that from you because I knew you ain't 3:06:18.920 --> 3:06:21.840 need it. And I said, when you did it, I said. 3:06:21.959 --> 3:06:24.120 Let me, I like Loving hipp fuck with this ship, 3:06:24.560 --> 3:06:25.440 and yeah, I did it. 3:06:25.560 --> 3:06:28.160 I did one season. I'm a baut of there. I'm 3:06:28.200 --> 3:06:29.720 not going maybe I'm not coming. 3:06:29.560 --> 3:06:32.280 Back, so you know what I mean. But I love 3:06:32.320 --> 3:06:36.160 love it, but I love love but I just know what. 3:06:36.320 --> 3:06:37.040 I love marriage. 3:06:37.959 --> 3:06:40.080 I love Marriage Can, but I probably won't do it again. 3:06:40.320 --> 3:06:43.320 But it's okay because you got to have that experience, 3:06:43.959 --> 3:06:47.840 and I love that about you. I kind of follows you. 3:06:49.200 --> 3:06:51.480 And what I'm trying to tell you is you deserve 3:06:51.560 --> 3:06:54.400 these flowers. Thank you. You deserve everything you do. 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