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Speaker 1: He is drinks chess, motherfucking podcast man.

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Speaker 2: He's a legendary queens rapper.

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Speaker 3: He ain't agreed as your boy in O R E.

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Speaker 3: He's a Miami hip hop mayonnaier on up his DJ

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Speaker 3: E f N. Together they drink it up with some.

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Speaker 1: Of the biggest players, you know what I mean, and

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Speaker 1: the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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Speaker 1: for drunk drink chans. Mother post every day is New

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Speaker 1: Year's c's It's time for drink Champs.

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Speaker 3: Drink up, motherfucking mother. Would a good be hoping to

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Speaker 3: sud be This is your boy in O R E.

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Speaker 3: One up his dj E f N. This middle drink

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Speaker 3: Champs Happy Hour, drink some n Now. When we started

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Speaker 3: this show, we said we wanted to to give people,

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Speaker 3: you know, their flowers. Who wanted to give people the icons,

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Speaker 3: the legends. When we talk about this man, this man

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Speaker 3: has made countless music for twenty over twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: is it twenty five, twenty seven, twenty seven years? I

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Speaker 3: mean he got hits upon hits.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 3: He's an actor, a dancer, producer, writer, keeping her reality

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Speaker 3: star far man. He could do it all.

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Speaker 1: Recently, he has been going viral for his dance moves

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Speaker 1: and falling.

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Speaker 3: Off the stage. I was at that show. I just

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Speaker 3: missed you. I love his friend idjudgment.

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Speaker 1: So when I tell you, man, this is a legend

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Speaker 1: of bar legend, a real one.

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Speaker 3: You know, I searched. I've been searching him so much,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, this is the first time, like

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Speaker 3: I've heard about his depression because I've been seeing him

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Speaker 3: for years and I have never seen him have a

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Speaker 3: bad day. I appreciate that this is a legend, icon

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Speaker 3: hit maker and his historian because were gonna get he

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Speaker 3: just got history upon history. So in case you don't

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Speaker 3: know who they talking about, one only tell you why.

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Speaker 3: What I like about recently. What I like about recently

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Speaker 3: is a lot of people don't laugh at theirself. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I love the fact that you did not let

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Speaker 3: the internet win. No, the Internet they tried to like

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Speaker 3: because what was it? It was the first It was

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Speaker 3: the dad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know what, when you've

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Speaker 1: been in this business as long as I have, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad so that it was just one of those things

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Speaker 1: and the research reason why people were at the dank

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Speaker 1: and I realized it's definitely two different moves.

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Speaker 3: Totally young, young, the old Jesus. Yeah, I loved it,

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Speaker 3: Like so many people don't laugh at something. Yeah, is

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Speaker 3: that some of you developed?

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Speaker 1: Like I had to develop it, man, because I got

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Speaker 1: so many kids and they laugh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So they was like, Dad, don't get mad, this

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Speaker 3: is funny. You can make some part of this. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So hold on, when did you know you was virable?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: Whoit?

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Speaker 1: I was?

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Speaker 3: Actually I was in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I was doing a show with Chris Angel and so

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Speaker 3: So I was like, what the hell is going on?

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Speaker 1: Like I was like, did somebody you know what I'm saying?

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's going on? And when they showed me,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm instantly like I don't care about that.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you season and its been very little

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Speaker 3: I was playing, I'm chilling, I'm I'm doing what I do.

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Speaker 1: I'm playing, and so all the viral stuff, all that

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Speaker 1: like like once you once that happens, like there's a

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Speaker 3: Dad was like, no, Dad, you can do this. It's

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Speaker 3: like a rebrand. Yes, yes, did you see that? But

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Speaker 3: do you first see it? They sent it to me Twitter. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love Twitter. Yes, I go on Twitter just to

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Speaker 3: get beat up. Really just going like whenever ho like

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Speaker 3: he loves whenever. I'm like too positive in this world.

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Speaker 1: I'm just yeah, yeah, you gotta find me. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: now you humble, I say, yeah, I stay like that.

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Speaker 1: So then let's bring it to the lovers and friends.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely and friends.

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Speaker 3: That's when I really see you would do the response

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Speaker 3: happy that lovers and friends. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: Take it out.

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Speaker 3: OK, thank you so much. Cheers, cheers, cheers, solo solo

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Speaker 3: shop a jackeline not touching my ship, bro.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, So the lovers and Friends thing, man, I

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Speaker 3: The first I was yeah, I was there last year,

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Speaker 1: We do what we do right, and so me, I'm all,

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Speaker 1: I've always been one of those artists that you know,

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Speaker 3: So this particular situation, I jumped, but we know that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I playing sleeping. It was hot to tell, oh

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Speaker 1: The second day and I was like, oh, please, don't

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Speaker 3: Now, imagine we had social media times just like in

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Speaker 1: Nineties everything from the stage equipment break down, like we

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Speaker 3: Okay, your time you can a sex symbol.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's considered just a lot of babies,

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Speaker 3: it feel like because me, unfortunately, like I've made music

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Speaker 1: But I wish I softened up. I wish I did

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, how is it making you know money off

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Speaker 3: of like that image of like well for me, man,

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Speaker 1: I started in uh ninety so I made it in

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Speaker 3: That's real.

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Speaker 2: So I've been man, I've been blessed to be everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And so I went over there and I was like,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you can go from here, like when you

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Speaker 1: So me still making money and doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm gone every weekend mostly every weekend. Every weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'm like a wrestler. So it's all good, man, It's

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Speaker 3: a blessing. So yeah, I'm gonna give you three names.

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Speaker 3: I want you to tell me. Infrared, Frosty, and Tornado.

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Speaker 1: You you know what I got you? Okay, let me

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Speaker 1: give you some history on that.

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Speaker 3: What's the first one? The first one is Infrared Frosty.

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Speaker 3: All of who is is who me? I got that research.

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Speaker 3: I was like, so is what it was when I

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Speaker 3: got with Joe to see in ninety Davante specific which

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so so we you know I got with them well,

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Speaker 1: like I said, Davante specifically, and he was coming up

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Speaker 2: Was going around, he was going around the world, going.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it from Rochester. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, y'all.

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Speaker 3: All of the apartments, yeah, Dungeon, definitely y'all getting it together.

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Speaker 3: And I think she paid him.

438
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: I really don't know about that, but I knew that

439
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: nothing would break album.

440
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: We spent a lot of time together, bro like.

441
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: Like I know that brother, I know that he had Yeah,

442
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: because of what I was told and that again, it

443
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: was just so long.

444
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't don't remember all the logistics of it.

445
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: But of course with me, we had the same management

446
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: for a while, and then once I broke away from

447
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 1: that management, he distanced himself from from me a little bit.

448
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 3: That hurt me.

449
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: That that is what hurt me as far as like

450
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: showing up for something late later on, I I don't

451
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: think that was really an issue. I was a little more.

452
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: I was a little jealous of some of some of

453
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 1: the stuff that he was doing for uh, just to stimulate,

454
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: until I learned.

455
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 3: That Justin was writing it.

456
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, okay, that's that's a whole

457
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: different level.

458
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: So I was just like, I'll let that go.

459
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 3: I'll let that go.

460
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was you know, me and me and

461
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: me and Tim will forever because connected and hopefully we'll

462
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: be able to do something special again.

463
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: Man.

464
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: I always respect shout out to Dre and Snoop and

465
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: God man, I love that when I see stuff like that,

466
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 1: shout out to Puff and even though sometimes things go

467
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: on none of my business. But when he did that tour,

468
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: everybody showed up Kim, and I was just like yo,

469
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 1: I was the first thing I did. I was like, Tim,

470
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: come on man, man. But you know, uh, we still

471
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: got time, We still got time. Let me ask you

472
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: something that Tanks said on here.

473
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: There later later with something Tank said he he has

474
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 3: sung a stance Sam Smith song. Right, I remember like

475
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: this this when when a white person sings about a

476
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: certain thing, it could go to certain places. But the

477
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: genre of black music, like if you the majority turned

478
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: on the radio, it's it's really a lot more negative

479
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: than it is bad, but I mean positive, you know.

480
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: So is that something that that does you agree with?

481
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: As far as what as far as him saying that

482
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: it's it's more bad, what you mean.

483
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 3: Him saying that, like a white person could sing a

484
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: ballad and and go, but if Tank or you sing

485
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 3: a ballid, people judge it. They don't let it go

486
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: to a certain extent.

487
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: He's he's absolutely right, but he's not sometimes a lot

488
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: of people got to understand it's a testament to us

489
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: not supporting one another too. You understand, we gotta, we

490
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: gotta if somebody comes out with something and you know,

491
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: it's sort of it's sort of like boxers now and

492
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: all all of that, Like we just have to support

493
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: one another. We we we're so caught up in what

494
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: somebody is doing negative and bringing that to the for

495
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: front and bringing that to like we know, the good

496
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: stuff is always overshadowed by bad stuff.

497
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: And that's something that I hate.

498
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: And that's why when it took me so long to say,

499
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: not because you was asking me or anything about it,

500
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: but for me to be open and even do podcasts

501
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: or me to be because it's like the world, the

502
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: world has changed so much. It's like you don't want

503
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: to go on something and say something and take it

504
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: out of context and then you get buyed and you

505
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: lose all your all your deals. You look so I

506
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 1: just I'm so hands off. I'm let me go do

507
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: my shows, let me do what I do when I

508
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: go back home.

509
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: Shut my mouth.

510
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't do all that because you know it's crazy

511
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: right now, you know what I mean, It's very crazy.

512
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: I could tell that's how you feel. Yes, absolutely, I'm

513
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: gonna tell you how I kept searching, search and searching

514
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: all your interviews, and there was so many interviews that

515
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: you wasn't even in the interview. It's just people talk

516
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: about you, right, And I could tell a lot of

517
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 3: these rumors you just didn't address because you feel like

518
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: you're too big for it, or it's just because you

519
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 3: don't want to be.

520
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like I'm way too big

521
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because that's the thing

522
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: about it is. You know, this nation and everything is

523
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: built on innocent until proven guilty. Right nowadays you're guilty

524
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: and to proven anything. Right. So I don't never feel

525
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: like I have to fight anybody for nothing, you know

526
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I know who I am, stand up, gud,

527
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: I'm true to my name, always have been, always will be.

528
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 2: So I don't feel like I have to fight fight

529
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: for anything.

530
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: If somebody thinks something, you've already lost anyway, Because as

531
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: soon as somebody think whatever it is that they think

532
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: about you.

533
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 3: That's their truth.

534
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: Anything they didn't already made up their mind. I'm not

535
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: here to make to change your mind. Nigga.

536
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like, you look, if.

537
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: You if that's that's what you feel about, keep that,

538
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: take that, take that with you, take that with you know.

539
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely above that, absolutely absolutely Did.

540
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: You ever think like that it would be where it's

541
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: at right now? Like right now, like right now, you

542
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: don't need no talent, You don't, you don't, you don't

543
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: even need, you don't need. I'm talking about this is

544
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 3: in general.

545
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: It's not just art.

546
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 3: It's not just artists, like a person, a person who

547
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: can actually like there's so many women that I go

548
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: on Instagram and I can look at this and they

549
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: have two point five million followers and I'm like, she

550
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: make the War Report right, like how she got more

551
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: followers than me? And because he's working, she's working like

552
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: history and there's no disrespect, absolutely respect her. But I

553
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: have never seen this level like and there's so many

554
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: Instagram comedians.

555
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: That's why I always refer to that time with Mike.

556
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Mike Epps had an Instagram comedian on what Us.

557
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: And Mike just fried them. Who is my man? What

558
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying is like, sometimes you put an artist next

559
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: to artists next to you know, not a made up party.

560
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: Did you ever think that it would be to sit here?

561
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: Did you ever think it would be here, like the

562
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: society would be here? You know what the teller tell

563
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: the truth. Yeah, you saw the fucking we coming. You

564
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: saw the idiocracy.

565
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and AI only makes it worse now, AI makes

566
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: it the horrible.

567
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: Right.

568
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: But once the internet, once the Internet came out, and

569
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: once you start to see the progression of just go

570
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: back to Mars, right.

571
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: So I knew Tom.

572
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Everybody everybody face party, but I mean you could start

573
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: to see it then, and it was brilliant what they

574
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: thought about when it came to the Just the word followers, Yeah,

575
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: just the word followers that gave you, that gave you

576
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: such a big platform. Right. And so once it took me, yo,

577
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: it took me to two thousand and fifteen or sixteen

578
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: to even get Instagram and Facebook.

579
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: Again and all that stuff.

580
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm old school, bro, I come up through

581
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: with with with with the Michael Jackson's and the princes

582
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: and the new additions and the Bobbies and all that.

583
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: We wasn't letting you know, when we're going on, no

584
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: damn store man, all that kind of stuff, We're not

585
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: doing that. So I never really subscribed to it until

586
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: I understood it, Like I was truly.

587
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: Old head, old school, like, nah, I ain't doing that.

588
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I think it actually took away the mystery and the

589
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: art of an artist because it's so exploited.

590
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: You know that too much access.

591
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: You got way too much access to just think if

592
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: Michael like what, oh my god, I don't think right.

593
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: So it's one of those things man, I just never

594
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: caught on until twenty fifteen. You know, I love social media,

595
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: but what I hate about social media is we're all

596
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: on that same level.

597
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: Once we open up that app. Yes it doesn't We're

598
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: all say so, there's someone in Nebraska in the basement

599
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: sowhere saying no you I can talk, gonna re threet him. Yeah,

600
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: He's like wait a minute.

601
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: So and but going back to the you just when

602
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: you said followers, I'm like, the only thing to have

603
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: followers is cults and religions.

604
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy boom. So that's what I'm saying, the followers.

605
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: The followers thing is it was was the key tore like,

606
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: oh man, this and it's all fake, you know what

607
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I tell people all the time, you

608
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: can have a twenty million followers or whatever.

609
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: Put something out and see how many people get it

610
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 2: or whatever.

611
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: That's so cool. That's what happened out you see, that's.

612
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: So what happened with hip hop.

613
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: And in terms of charting, they're saying, this is the

614
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: first time and in thirty years that hip hop hasn't

615
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: had a number one record.

616
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is it's really it's really a

617
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: smoke screen.

618
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: And so I did see it. That's how I was like,

619
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't see

620
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: it's gonna be this. So I saw it was gonna

621
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: be this. Stupid bro, I've seen the movie Idiocracy.

622
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: You have ever seen them?

623
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: Noah, I have nothing. Got to see the movie. I

624
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: foresaw a lot of it.

625
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Said let's be good into time more technology we used

626
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: become stupid.

627
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: Like think about it. I don't really know anybody's phone

628
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: number back then. I knows you won't remember. I used

629
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: to know twenty people's phone number. It made me use

630
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: my brain. The smarter the smartphone got, the dumb I got.

631
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: You can what we got. Don't have a met don't

632
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: what we all got. You can't name five numbers in

633
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: your absolutely can't. I can't you can't.

634
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: You probably got one your mama. That's it.

635
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: I got, Yes, that's it. That's it, know Eddie Giggs,

636
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: because you had the same did you see that dogs

637
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: man deafite? Definitely, because we depend on this. This is us.

638
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: Just doesn't have a f This is us. I saw

639
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: to be off subject, but it's on subject. The other day,

640
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 3: swear to God, a therapist friend of mine said to me,

641
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: you know you got when you get on social media,

642
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: is a certain people you followed? So he said, he

643
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: said that he had, he had he had clients that

644
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 3: would wake up in the morning and they would follow

645
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: porn stars. And so when they following porn stars, they

646
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: think it about sex. Then you got clients that they

647
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: following kickboxes or or or people that's holding pistols and

648
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: they're thinking about and you don't even realize that you're

649
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: putting yourself into that in that mode like that ship was.

650
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: It was ill when he broke that down to me,

651
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't lie. Immediately stopped following

652
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 3: certain people. I was just like, yo, program, that's what

653
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 3: it's doing. Yeah. It fucked me up. So I woke

654
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: up this morning, which I didn't use the internet the

655
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: whole time I was in I was in Italy and past,

656
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 3: so I tried not to use it the whole time.

657
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: In this morning, I woke up and I got trapped

658
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: right trapped right into that ship. I was like, yo,

659
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 3: holy ship.

660
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, your phone is you?

661
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: Yes, so, but we want you to know our show

662
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 3: was about giving our legends they flowers, while yeah, you

663
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: are super legend. We've been trying to get you since

664
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 3: the show started. Your flowers to your face.

665
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: Oh.

666
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: Your face? Thank you grabbed come of his own people.

667
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: God damnit, that's what I did.

668
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

669
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 3: Do you did you think you know because you have

670
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: an illustrious career? Yes? Did you think you would would

671
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: the last for twenty seven years? Back then? No, I

672
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 3: didn't think. I'm not.

673
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: I knew that that song that I started out with

674
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: ultimately was ultimately was a special song to my pony.

675
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: Yes, because it was supposed to be for a securities intro.

676
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah there you boy, you you bad. You gotta you

677
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: asked him for her too. I asked him for because

678
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: back in the days, you remember, I ain't gotta tell you,

679
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: but interludes was a big thing for Jodysson and even

680
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: n W uh uh death Row, you know what I mean.

681
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: So we were doing a lot of intererluds and that's

682
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: what we were following. We was called the Basement, so

683
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: you know Snoop, Snoop, Sug and all of them. We

684
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: had a great connection with Demonte because actually Sugar started

685
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: managing Jodason for a while and so we.

686
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Kind of kind of took a little bit from them

687
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: and all that, and.

688
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 7: So that was just something that was uh uh you

689
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 7: know special for us to do man.

690
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 3: And and and and just to maintain and do the interlud.

691
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: So once he he was doing something interlude and he

692
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: was playing, I was like, Yo, that's dope, that's dope.

693
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: And then he played Pony. Now now now just pure pictured.

694
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: This okay without the words, because I always felt like Pony.

695
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: Anything could have been put the pony and Pony would

696
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: have been a hit. Right.

697
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: He played that song and he was like, yeah.

698
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: This is gonna be for the this is gonna be

699
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: for the bodyguards something. So and I'm looking at him

700
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: like the bodyguard and it just now, I mean I

701
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: just heard it. I was like, dude, please give me that.

702
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, please me that for two years

703
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: you mean you meant that it was recorded or ready

704
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: for two years. Y'all heard it is to actually give

705
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: you the actually right now, y'all heard it in ninety six,

706
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: We recorded it in ninety three, ninety four.

707
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all, y'all, and what was still popping to this day. Yeah,

708
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: let's make no noise for that. Yeah, go ahead.

709
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: So what happened was when when you asked me about

710
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: did I did I know whether it would be, whether

711
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: I would be here. I didn't know whether I would

712
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: be here, but I knew that song was special. So

713
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I what I did when I did it and we

714
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: finished our Rest in Peace static major because he wrote

715
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: it and I helped write the verses, but he wrote

716
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: the song, so I don't take no.

717
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 3: Credit for that. He wrote to the Yeah, he wrote

718
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 3: the hook.

719
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Was already done when I came in there, and I

720
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta help you write these verses.

721
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: I gotta have pie. I got to have a piece

722
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: of that.

723
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: So you know, once that happened, man, I said, once

724
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: once it was finished, was master and all that, and

725
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: D was like, that's your single right there, that's your singing.

726
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it is.

727
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: So once he told me that I reverted back to

728
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: when I saw Michael Jackson on Motown twenty five. I said,

729
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: you gotta do a step to this that will make

730
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: people remember this song forever. And so that's what you

731
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: see in the beginning. I did that in ninety three.

732
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: That was old as a as an artist.

733
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 1: If we caught a record and it don't drop, most

734
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: of us give up on that record.

735
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah, What the fuck

736
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 3: made you stay consistent? No?

737
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: That was just one of the things where Davante was

738
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: looking for a deal, and you know, unfortunately we had

739
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: He had like sixteen artists, sixteen acts, and when I

740
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: say acts, it could be five people in one group,

741
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: one people and all that. So, and he was going

742
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: around and they would always say they wanted me, Missy

743
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: and Timbling. So he was going to places and they

744
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: would tell him, no, we want him, we want her,

745
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: and we want Timbling as whatever. And he was like,

746
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: if you don't take them all, you can't have nothing.

747
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: It took me years even.

748
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: To know this because him and his boy fell out.

749
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: I won't say his name because we had some falling

750
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: out or whatever, but it was his boy from home

751
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: and he was just like I gotta tell you, bro,

752
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: like you could have been had a deal and all that,

753
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: And then I'm looking at him like telling you that. No, no, no, that's.

754
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at him like you a snake. Why

755
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 3: don't you tell me that?

756
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: No?

757
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: Why would you.

758
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Tell me that?

759
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: Period?

760
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: That's your boy. If it wasn't for him, again, my loyalty.

761
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: But if what for him, you wouldn't even be up here?

762
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: Why are you telling me that? Though?

763
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at him like you a rather dude.

764
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: You you you, you you're wrong.

765
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: But he was telling the truth.

766
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: He was telling the truth, and so he looked at

767
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: it like I guess, man, you're gonna stop these these

768
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: people's talent and they're gonna look up and it's gonna

769
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: be gone. Like like you, we only have a small

770
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: window we have we I mean, if you're lucky, once

771
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: you have that that crew behind you, if you're lucky,

772
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: you know you can get on. But once that phase away,

773
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: like it's kind of just kind of a done deal

774
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: for you, you know what I mean.

775
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: So luckily I just stayed with him. I just stayed

776
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: with him and things worked out.

777
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: Man. Maybe he thought y'all would be strong as a

778
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: conglomerate going in, yeah, situation, I think he had just

779
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: had a vision, and sometimes when people have a vision,

780
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: they don't detour from that vision, and sometimes it's a

781
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: hindrance for the people that he has behind him and

782
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: with them, which it was, and so that's why a

783
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: lot of people and the crew we uh, we understood that,

784
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: and we had to have to say, I think we

785
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: did our part in the loyalty category. Now we got

786
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: to start looking out for ourselves. So Missy was pretty

787
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: much the first one on the left. Yeah was miss

788
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: was Missy? Did you ask Missy to write on our

789
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 1: pony here? First? No? Never? Never.

790
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Statue was like this mine.

791
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Because when I heard it, I knew it was different, right,

792
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like.

793
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: What the hell? But I knew it was special, and

794
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: so I asked Static. I said, you got to help

795
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: me write this. Man, I don't even know what to

796
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: do with this. But Static was really right, and a

797
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff for the albums that were supposedly

798
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: come coming out and all that. But you know, I

799
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: didn't even know where to start. So he was like,

800
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: I got you, dog, I got you. So he went

801
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: down in the basement. We had this place called the Base,

802
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: that's what our crew was name, and so it was

803
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: like like two floors down.

804
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 2: It was this place called days GA Line up in Rochester,

805
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: New York.

806
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: And so it was a big building and we had

807
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: studios there everywhere and that's where we got down at, you.

808
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

809
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: So so because that record rings off to this day still.

810
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 3: Now. One thing, one thing that that is shocking about

811
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: it is most people like, you know what, you're doing

812
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: shows before that record, because because you were doing shows,

813
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 3: because most people who write a hit record, who has

814
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: to hit record, it is catering to the audience. Like,

815
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: so you were doing shows before that, you knew that

816
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 3: this would work at a show?

817
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. I was doing shows since I was like ten,

818
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: get up, Yeah, you know what I mean. So so

819
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: so so my linea is my time in the music

820
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: business goes way back, you know what I mean. I've

821
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: always been an entertainer, like like getting the talent, shows, breakdancing,

822
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: doing all that. So but once I did that, oh yeah,

823
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I got it, I got I

824
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: got When do you work for KFC? I worked for

825
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: KFC before I went up there. I had i had

826
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: three I had three jobs. Man. I used to work

827
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: neighborhood Investment KFC and I used to work at a

828
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: construction company.

829
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: All the same time.

830
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: Father seeing up and coming artists, Go get yourself a job,

831
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: Go get.

832
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 3: Yourself a job. Mother had three jobs paying for the dream.

833
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: That motherfucker out here to sleeping on your girl couch. Yeah,

834
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: talking about you struggling artists, you want to be struggling.

835
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: This is real.

836
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 3: Fact. The other day, like, if you're struggling artists, make

837
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: sure you go get.

838
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: A job, even when I'm even when I made it

839
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: with them, when I thought that I made it in

840
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: ninety I was working at Champs and then me and

841
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: my brother in New.

842
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: York his name is you ain't have Pony out which

843
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 3: nah we're talking to quit that job.

844
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah after Pony it was working the RAF.

845
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: It was a rap.

846
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I still had that foundation.

847
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: No, man. Now, maybe just like you saying, I'm able

848
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: to tell a lot of the young guys up there now,

849
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's just different now though you can just

850
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: sit at home and do what you gotta do. You

851
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: can record your phone. It's different now. But yeah, I

852
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 1: mean so I'm able to tell that story and know

853
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: that it came from the mud.

854
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: I didn't.

855
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: I didn't get it given to me.

856
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: You know, man, vision about in the nineties, which like

857
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 3: these kids have it so good. I remember if I

858
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 3: had to if I wanted my record to be played

859
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: in London, I had to go to London. Oh yeah,

860
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: I had to go to if I wanted to play

861
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: we played in Virginia, I had to visit and bring

862
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: the record. You had to do in stores. Yeah, yes,

863
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: that's how I met you, right, that's what that's what's up. Yeah,

864
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: all of them was good.

865
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Some of them were staking it on you, you know,

866
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: you know them days they want to get you a

867
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: hug and you're.

868
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 3: Like, I wish, I wish COVID was out back. I

869
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 3: was COVID was out back then, but COVID niggas. I

870
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: had to give so many hugs to stinky people, I mean,

871
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: because sometimes they're waiting outside for you know what I mean.

872
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: Those It was crazy, man. But you had to do

873
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 3: all that.

874
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: You had to do the morning show, you had to

875
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: do the install, you had to do dinners, you had

876
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: to do the you had to do the morning show.

877
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: Promo tour was free. You didn't get paid to do. Man,

878
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: that's when I still hurt, still hurt. Let me promo

879
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: to us hurt right now? My third, my third because

880
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, you have

881
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: to do promo tours for all your records. And I

882
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: think my third record is when I found out that

883
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand and know that we

884
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: made bag. Like now that y'all saying that bag and

885
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: that was us. Wow.

886
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 3: Let me let me give you the history. Let me

887
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 3: give you the history for this. Back in the day,

888
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna relate.

889
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: Back in the days, a lot of artists didn't care

890
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: nothing about, you know, the money part of it.

891
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: We just wanted girls. We just want to drinks and

892
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 2: we want to go the party, right.

893
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want them money though. Yeah, well you prob.

894
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: A lot of us, Yeah, playing around and so and

895
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: so my boys Jerry Vines and Cliff Jones back in

896
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: d C. You know that basically came from you remember,

897
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: back in the days, we had what's some things called

898
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: when when you're on the label, uh and and you

899
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: go to the city and you meet.

900
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: The streets, the street street reps.

901
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were saying, yeah, it's street wraps or whatever,

902
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: MIXTU meeting now the street reps.

903
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: But it was another name though, but because because there's

904
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 3: two different people, it's the people that ride you around

905
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: in the event. That's about it.

906
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: It was the name for it, what street reps whatever. Yeah,

907
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: So so they used to trick us. I don't know

908
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: about you, but they used to trick us and say, yo, man,

909
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: we we got this club here.

910
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 3: Come come on, come on, come on on. So once

911
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 3: I got to, once I.

912
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 1: Got to yeah, but they would give you no money,

913
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: right right, And so the whole time, a lot of

914
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: those street reps or whatever they was called, they were

915
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: getting money for it. And so once and so, so,

916
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: once I got a little more seasoned, I was like, man,

917
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: look they're gonna they're gonna have to.

918
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: Pay me today. He's like, man, come on, man, you

919
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta do this for the record, for the record.

920
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: And so I actually caught somebody, I won't say the name,

921
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: actually caught somebody. And you know, when when you go

922
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: to the bank, they give you like a bag, like

923
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: a bag to put your money in. So I was like,

924
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: we was like, you got that damn bad give me that.

925
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: Damn bag.

926
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Where that came from so I actually had I still

927
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: got a production company name Bag Entertainment. If you go

928
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: to my fourth CD, uh Snoop introduced my fourth CD,

929
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: The Senior, and he say, Bag Entertainment presents.

930
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: Gen y'all, y'all, Old Jen wants yo from us. That's oh, bro,

931
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: that's oh, that's d C stuff. Okay, that what God

932
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: a game that we play on the show. Okay, playing them.

933
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 3: I've said a couple of other games. I don't know

934
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: this one. We're gonna give you two choices.

935
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: You pick one, okay, let me if you if you

936
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: if you say both, the neither, we drinking, all of

937
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: us a drink when we with you. We're giving you

938
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: two choices. If you pick one of the two, we

939
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: go move on to the next question. I would drink anyway.

940
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 3: But if you say both, like you can't make up

941
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 3: your mind, then we all drink. We don't leave you

942
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: out there. We're taking a shot with you. Okay. By

943
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: the way, me and him don't make up these questions. No,

944
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: these guys motherfuckers over there. It's all mindicans and producers,

945
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: So blame blame these questions on the Okay, cool. By

946
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: the way, this first one is classic? Is this pep

947
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 3: cot Okay?

948
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: Can I get another one place?

949
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: Sep?

950
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: Oh? You did? Okay because it was you know the

951
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: differ between yes, Sweeter, I can put you applying fold.

952
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, you'll be like do it. That's an eighties baby.

953
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. Are you ready for the first one? Yep,

954
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: tank you I was, I knew was going like that one.

955
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 3: This one I don't know Snoop Dog with Jay Z

956
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 3: Snoop Chris Brown Usher bo I got to take a shot.

957
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: That was a good one though. That was a good

958
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that is Trey Songs or Jeremiah Trey, next

959
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: one Jodasy or one twelve, that's gotta be I was.

960
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: Taking I was taking the shot even get it out Jodason.

961
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah we need Joas on him. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

962
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 3: you want to get the next one podcast or radio

963
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: radio shy or Silk Silk so so he can next

964
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: act next to say had come on Nasa Jadakiss nas

965
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 3: Rihanna Beyonce. Oh take a shot, Oh yeah, take it

966
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 3: su Witness. I might wanted to take a shot to

967
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: want to go against those.

968
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 1: Sisters old No, come on Whitney Houston or Amy wine

969
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: House Hereston.

970
00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah that was Missy or Eve missing keep sweating, Johnny Gil.

971
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: Johnny Gil, No, take a shot?

972
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 3: Sorry, how would I say to cocause because he's from DC.

973
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: But Keith, that's my brother, So I got take a

974
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: shot with that one.

975
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: Boys to Men or Drew.

976
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: Hill, Boys in Vogue or Destiny's Child in Vote Each

977
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Town or Jagged Edge.

978
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: Take a shot the next one. You're making his drink.

979
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: Take a shot. Take a shot for real? Hold on,

980
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 3: take a shot first, right, Okay, that was for the

981
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: last shot for Row or Kanye Kanye fab or push

982
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 3: your tee. Mm, I'm gonna drink. Let's drink. You got

983
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 3: your cheer? Oh this is my mom.

984
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: One is a little extra man, Riah Carrie or Janet Jackson,

985
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: Janet Buster or eminem Buster. Okay ou tang or n

986
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: W A.

987
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: N w A Wow house party or Friday uh Friday

988
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah that way too, Go ahead, sauce or double

989
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: x L.

990
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: Let me drink that.

991
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: Really I want to say double XL, but so too. Okay,

992
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: sours your original Hm, Tina Turtler or Vetha Franklin, Drink drink, drink,

993
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: drink drink that damn man, that's hard that was a

994
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: long ass.

995
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: Was long?

996
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 3: Really?

997
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 8: Yeah?

998
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I left, came back and still don't oh got it?

999
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: Ye oh you lost? Yeah because you're used for twice

1000
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: or yeah you already said to around. Okay, but you're skipping,

1001
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: skipping though.

1002
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: You go back to it. Yeah, okay, Monica or brandy

1003
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: drink drink drink. Yeah, I won't have it. I don't

1004
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: have it right now.

1005
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: No, that's that's that's just get the time. Yeah, I

1006
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: do this, man, that's that's nothing. Okay, where you at? Okay,

1007
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: let me get the drink first.

1008
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 3: Let's let's let's let's not move some fastest wee drink. Yeah,

1009
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 3: this is just a little bit. Oh man, excuse me

1010
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 3: a heartburn today? Digital or analog? Analog, me too, Tory

1011
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 3: Lanes for the weekend, toy thriller or off the wall.

1012
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: You said, thriller, thriller, off the thriller. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1013
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 3: thriller drake or pop Daddy.

1014
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: Drink drinking Timberland or Swiss Beak sprint Timberland, Timberland like

1015
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: that that.

1016
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 3: Marvin Gate or Smokey Robinson, gad Our Green or Teddy

1017
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: pinograd Our Green. Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson old Prince Jackson. Okay,

1018
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 3: you heard you got Michael Jackson. Yeah, we we we are,

1019
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: we are. That's why I'm trying to hear this. So

1020
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: I'm kind of get and I got a node question

1021
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 3: for you. Oh yeah, Bobby Brown or I'll be sure,

1022
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 3: Bobby Brown. Oldest wedding in Sam Cook, Sam Cook. It's

1023
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: been bomb but I do all these your keys drink Drake,

1024
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 3: Stevie Wonder or Luthery Blue the vandos Me and Stevie Wonder.

1025
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: You think Stevie could see Yeah, I think I think somebody. Yeah, yeah,

1026
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. You can hear too many stories. We have

1027
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 3: to see for ourselves.

1028
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: We had we had the Osley brothers say that they

1029
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: saw him crossing the street. I said, wait a minute,

1030
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: I bet you he's having a lot of fun because

1031
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: he seems like I need the humor.

1032
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: I believe something listen across the street.

1033
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1034
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 3: I'm twenty twenty visits. You know you could be legally

1035
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 3: have a heart to see. You still can see the

1036
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: shapes and every and that. Shaq said that he saw

1037
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 3: him pressed up. He said he saw him pressing the

1038
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: button and elevator which just him and him want to

1039
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,399
Speaker 3: take brother said he crossed the street. The brother said,

1040
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 3: he crosses cross the street.

1041
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not a droke like note, and Shaq said

1042
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: that he was he one time lived in the same building.

1043
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: He was already in the elevator. Was like, what's up, Jack?

1044
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm listening to TV.

1045
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1046
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: Hey, look the senses up. Yeah, sure this is.

1047
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 3: New addition or Jackson five.

1048
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: Oh I was.

1049
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 3: Jackson five. Okay, t l C or s w V ah,

1050
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: thank you, we both do the last one. Loyalty or respect?

1051
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: Loyalty You gonna explain what loyalty?

1052
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, man.

1053
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 3: It's it's like the respect thing.

1054
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: People can respect you for different different read they're scared,

1055
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: their view and all that. But I think the loyalty

1056
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: thing that that comes from within. It just comes from

1057
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: time and just you spending time with somebody and just

1058
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: not wanting to see that person hurt and just you're

1059
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna ride or die for that person. So loyalty for me,

1060
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: it's it's everything, you know what I mean? But yeah, respect,

1061
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: respect is good to think. If you lawyer, respect comes

1062
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 1: with respect comes with yeah, because if you let's take. Yeah,

1063
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: that was perfect answer, like that, No, I have to

1064
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: action at one point, now I was like the Prince

1065
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: of the hood. He couldn't do no wrong, Prince.

1066
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 3: Prince or king. Let's give him the king showing that

1067
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: proper respect. Then there was one record they was like,

1068
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: he's sold out, Prince. You're talking about no nor you said, prince,

1069
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 3: that's what you did about Prince the hood. Okay, he

1070
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: was a king. This record comes out and this is

1071
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 3: the time, you know, this is the time off Daddy

1072
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 3: is killing him. So so this is my man, this

1073
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,439
Speaker 3: is my man. I remember at that time he was like, man,

1074
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 3: my man sold out, not me, I ain't. I'm saying that.

1075
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: People were saying right, right, right right because of it

1076
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: was And one of those records was you, well, well yeah,

1077
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: but in the beginning, I remember Stanning seeing so much

1078
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 3: slack that he was receiving. Was that something that you

1079
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 3: and Simolin received as well, or we didn't receive, Not.

1080
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: That it was a smash, but I'm pretty sure, like yeah,

1081
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: because because of how he grew up and where it

1082
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: was and wrapping all that kind of stuff. But yeah,

1083
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: it worked out for us, and I think it was

1084
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: more of a commercial success for him and just put

1085
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: him on a different plateau. I always felt like, if

1086
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: you want to change anything and anyone like gets get

1087
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: on that plateau and then allow them to see your reality,

1088
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, then you can change you

1089
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: can change them. So all the selling out stuff, nah man,

1090
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: like like the dude, the dude, that's nas man.

1091
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 3: You can't ever ever say that dude. Yeah, of course,

1092
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: of course.

1093
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: But I just always wondered it was a commercial SI

1094
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: sess for us and and and all of us, so

1095
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, just like, well, but back then, I can't

1096
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: lie even me, like what are you doing?

1097
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 3: He was my friend. It was only the fellas the lady,

1098
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 3: what's going on? Why you doing? Why you got on

1099
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: another shirt? Why are you selling?

1100
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: Because that was doing the eraror where you know, you know, puffles.

1101
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: Out and he was doing his thing.

1102
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: But he was smart about it, you know, he was

1103
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: still like, you've been not stepped to me, you know

1104
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 2: what the deal is?

1105
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 3: Now it seems like a genius move.

1106
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: Back then, yes, yes, but but guess what, that's what

1107
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: makes those icons, those icons they can foresee the funture.

1108
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 3: You got to look at matter. P uh, dame, puff

1109
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: you know all those guys.

1110
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: That's why they are who they are because they already

1111
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: saw the business business part of it. We're looking at

1112
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: oh the this that nah, they they're they're looking twenty

1113
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: years ahead, fifteen twenty twenty years ahead. You know.

1114
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 3: That's another thing. It's like R and B can make

1115
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: it any kind of music, the most beautiful music. And

1116
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 3: we looked at and but you dudes is real dudes

1117
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: on the streets. Like one thing I learned your R

1118
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 3: and B, Like like, okay, obviously I came out with

1119
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: Baptists and the one thing I've seen I remember having

1120
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 3: a show with you. I'm sure you don't remember, okay,

1121
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: but you had the handies just flying on stage. Yes,

1122
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 3: And I was just like, how the fuck do I

1123
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 3: compeep with that? Like what the fuck? It blunts through

1124
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: I gotta DJ. People don't read at me. This motherfucker

1125
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 3: had bros handies And I was like what I can't

1126
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 3: get on after that? But that it was like like

1127
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: I remember you and l L was like very hard,

1128
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 3: like very hard, like l L would he would change

1129
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 3: because remember we were thinking one Mike, you know, a DJ,

1130
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: and I remember l L having a show and him

1131
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 3: giving out flowers and I'm having a show with you,

1132
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 3: and I was just like, this was I did not

1133
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: start researching research to you as we get closer to you,

1134
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: saying you're going to do this interview and research to you.

1135
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: And I realized that that was at every one of

1136
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: your shows.

1137
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: I thought it was just at the show that I

1138
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 3: did with you that was that.

1139
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: You thought that was the panty shows, And then I

1140
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: was And then I realized, so was that like something

1141
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: you you strategically said that. No, it was multiple encounters.

1142
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 9: Man.

1143
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I never really strategically playing anything like that. But I

1144
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: always remember, you know, my mom back back in the

1145
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: days of saying that, you know, the ladies throw hannies

1146
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: for Yeah, yeah, that's going on. So you know, I

1147
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: never I never really planned that, but I welcomed it.

1148
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: Of course, I say no going back. So I mean,

1149
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 1: it was it was, it was, it was, it was

1150
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: a situation. I was just happy that it was happening

1151
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: to me, you know what I mean. So, yeah, because

1152
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: of your heroes in the.

1153
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: Past, Yeah absolutely, l yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the man.

1154
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 7: That's the man.

1155
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1156
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 3: He transcended it like he was, you know, a street

1157
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 3: with it. Yeah, yeah, that was a good dude. Shout

1158
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,479
Speaker 3: out there. L So, is there anybody that you wanted

1159
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 3: to work with and you didn't get a chance to

1160
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: work with? I really, really, what's the camera?

1161
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: The camera help? I really want to work with Mary J.

1162
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 3: Block That is so dope. I really want to work

1163
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 3: with Marria Ja so you know what I mean.

1164
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: I actually and also Mariah Carrey. Okay, I maybe she

1165
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: was the first Nick Cannon. Anyway, we're gonna get.

1166
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: You sitting around. Everybody been here. I know, I know

1167
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: how you feel. Come on, I'm a look at the camera.

1168
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: Mariah. I want to do Fire and Desire with you.

1169
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 1: Rick Jays and Tina Marie.

1170
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 3: I want to do that with you. And I just

1171
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 3: want to do anything with Mary J. Blige anything after that.

1172
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: Know, the two people that I've always wanted to do

1173
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 1: something with they're no longer here. That's Michael Jackson and Prince,

1174
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: but I was able to pay homage to them while

1175
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: they were here. The first CD that I did is

1176
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 1: genuine a bachelor I did when Dove's Crime. The second

1177
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: I did one hundred percent genuine and Di she's out

1178
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: of my life. I wanted to just to pay homage

1179
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: to them while they were here, you know what I mean,

1180
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: just like you did with the flowers and all that.

1181
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's a great thing, you know what

1182
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean. And so because they a lot of artists

1183
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: don't understand how how how much we inspire people on

1184
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: a daily basis. There's somebody right now in their garage,

1185
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: Joe whatever, on their laptop. Now I'm saying garage and

1186
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm thinking back in the days, but they on their laptop.

1187
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: They want to be the next Pharaal. They want to

1188
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: be the next Timberland. They want to be the next Kanye,

1189
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: they want to be the next whatever. And so those

1190
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: are the two guys that really truly inspired me, Like

1191
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: Prince and Michael inspired me to set out on this

1192
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: conquest and just to go all out and say this

1193
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: is what I'm going to do. There is no second plan,

1194
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I didn't have no

1195
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: second plan. I was like, no, I'm doing this, this, this,

1196
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: this is it. They've got to meet Prince. Got to

1197
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: meet Prince one time. They heard the covers, both of them. Michael,

1198
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: I didn't I've never.

1199
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 3: Met I wanted to. That's that that was like when

1200
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 3: you say which one or whatever.

1201
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: Michael is always first to me, you know what I

1202
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: mean after Motown twenty five. You know that bove that

1203
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: goes off in your head or it turns off, turns

1204
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: on on, you know, in your head, to let you

1205
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: know this is what you're supposed to do. That's what

1206
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: happened at night. I was a kid like Prince, Yeah

1207
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: you met him? Did he floating?

1208
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: He floated in like he never like he never walked.

1209
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: I feel like he had a hubble board back then.

1210
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: I was actually in what is it minutes in Minnesota,

1211
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: whys at Minnesota, Mintonka.

1212
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so at his club.

1213
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 1: Well, I was at a club and they said he

1214
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: was coming in to do a set, and so I

1215
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: just finished the show there.

1216
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 3: So I came in there and I was like, oh

1217
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 3: my god.

1218
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: You know, we all turned into fans when it comes

1219
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: to back back in the days, we all turned into

1220
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: fans when they come to Michael Jackson and Prince and

1221
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: Janet Jackson. So, uh, what happened was I walked in

1222
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: and I was in there, and I was like, yo,

1223
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:42,439
Speaker 1: so when is he coming.

1224
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 3: It's like two o'clock in the morning. So he came.

1225
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: They was like here, here, here, and I was like,

1226
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm scared sweating to.

1227
01:06:50,640 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 3: See purple shade everything. I saw everything from the story.

1228
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: So he came up right, and so listen, this.

1229
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 1: Is this is real, like like like I'm not playing.

1230
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not playing like I was up It was on

1231
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: the second second floor, and I think like he had

1232
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: he had trap doors or something in the club or

1233
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: something like I think he was doing.

1234
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: He did this just to say, just just for people.

1235
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 2: Like myself and artists to say, this guy is different.

1236
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: God, you know what I'm saying.

1237
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: So I'm walking and so he just I swear the

1238
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 3: guy he's just up up here. He just like, I'm serious,

1239
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 3: he just up here.

1240
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 1: And I turned around here and you know the deep

1241
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: voice And did I remember somebody said.

1242
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: Did you just say Prince had a deep voice? Yeah,

1243
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 3: he got to get back to that.

1244
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 9: Hold on.

1245
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: So I remember somebody forgot who said something.

1246
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 3: He said, don't look in his eyes, right, don't look

1247
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: at his eyes, don't looking at his.

1248
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: Right, saying that's weird. Was like, this is different. So

1249
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 1: so he says, I don't remember what he said. I'm

1250
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: not gonna lie here. He said baby yo or gee

1251
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: or something, and I turned around and I see I

1252
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: see him, and I immediately say, you did not make

1253
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm doing it. Oh my god, it's

1254
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: so great to meet you to right.

1255
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 3: Oh man, thank you man. Listen, you know I wanted

1256
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 3: to be hobbing to you. I'm doing this.

1257
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 1: He's looking at me like you I'm like this, Yo,

1258
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at you. So because I'm still a fan,

1259
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: you care, you know, so uh And he told me

1260
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't usually let I don't usually

1261
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: like people to do my and I was like, I

1262
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: was hurt.

1263
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: My heart dropped. And then he said, but you did

1264
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,759
Speaker 3: a good job. I was like, that was here's the magic,

1265
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 3: here's the magic. So my people was.

1266
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 10: There and I was like, yo, he because he was

1267
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 10: like like I was, so I was talking to him right, so,

1268
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 10: thank you dog or that and I was like, yo,

1269
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 10: did you hear that more?

1270
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 3: I turned back around. That's gone, it's gone, disappeared just

1271
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 3: like he did. He didn't stay around. He did like

1272
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 3: that was that's my friend's story. And that's the true story.

1273
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 11: Bro.

1274
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: God. Everybody whoever we asked, who ever met prince, they

1275
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 3: always say got like they got a crazy story. I've

1276
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 3: never met Prince and I've never met him. Wow, I've

1277
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 3: never met Tupac neither. Wow, I did you met? Was

1278
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 3: it when you said you guys were dealing with de

1279
01:09:58,479 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: Bro that time?

1280
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? The first time I met Tupac. He came in

1281
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: the studio and we were in uh uh I know,

1282
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, Mannhattan Center Center. Okay right, okay, yeah, so

1283
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: uh Davante. Uh we were in a studio with Davante.

1284
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: It was me static and everything, and Madonna was in there.

1285
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 3: Donald was in there. He was messing with madonnad's I guess,

1286
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: yeah there was Yeah, I get in.

1287
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: A business, yody, but yeah, but but yeah, he came.

1288
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 3: He came in. She didn't go back. It's true. Once

1289
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: she went black, she did not go to that.

1290
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: He came in like YEO, what's up and all that.

1291
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 3: So that was like one of my first times.

1292
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 1: And then my boy that wrote a Pony, he was

1293
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: a big, huge fan of two five.

1294
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 3: He walked in there and he was his eyes was

1295
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 3: like he was gazed at him. I was like, wow, dude,

1296
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 3: like so yeah he was. He was like, what's up,

1297
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: little man? I was like, yeah, you don't even know

1298
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 3: only you.

1299
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1300
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 2: He was always a cool dude though. Man, always a

1301
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 2: cool dude.

1302
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: Man.

1303
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: It was a couple of times that I met him

1304
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: because we were always connected with death Row Bro. I

1305
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: was like, I was like one of the I was

1306
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 1: the first artists with Danny Boy on his first single,

1307
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: That's Me on the hook of Danny Boy's first single.

1308
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: So and Danny Boy was the first artist off of

1309
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: Death Row and so that's how all of.

1310
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: Us really like connected, you know what I mean. Is

1311
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: it true that she was a big eiast party the night?

1312
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1313
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: Yeah I heard the shots, dude, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it

1314
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: was was we were and a lot of people having

1315
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: that story. Now all the other specification and stuff I

1316
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 1: don't know about, but it wasn't because it was you know,

1317
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 1: somebody fighting or that.

1318
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 3: It was like a fire has it and so there.

1319
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: Was too many people evacuated the evacuated the party, and

1320
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: so you know, it was so hard getting on your

1321
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 1: cars for some for some reason.

1322
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 2: And so if you look on the internet, they'll they'll

1323
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: show you.

1324
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: They'll they'll show they say the name this person was there,

1325
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: and they'll show us dancing and all that kind of stuff.

1326
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, we actually heard heard the shots, but

1327
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 1: we didn't think it's la, this is this is what,

1328
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,560
Speaker 1: this is what happens. And so we went back to

1329
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: this hotel called the Nico, but we used to call

1330
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: the Negro.

1331
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, and.

1332
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: So we was over there and that's when we found

1333
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: out what happened and who it was and all that.

1334
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 3: So, yeah, it was ill.

1335
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: It was a crazy night, man, But the night before that,

1336
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: it was just man, it was just fun. It was very,

1337
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: very much fun. Yeah, but we were there, me Missy Timberland, Aliyah,

1338
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of Yeah, I believe, ah, I believe,

1339
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: I know miss she was there. It was me, Missy

1340
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: because we came together, me, Missy tim I believe Timberlin

1341
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: was there.

1342
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, we came together. And you said you heard it.

1343
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: We heard it.

1344
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 3: We heard it.

1345
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: We heard it, yeah, because we stayed until that happened,

1346
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: like we were evacuated. Everybody was like.

1347
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, leave da da it's too much and all that,

1348
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,759
Speaker 2: and we heard it, but we never.

1349
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: Thought about it. We never because we was on the

1350
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: other side. We were on the side that they were

1351
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: pulling up the cars or something, and so we actually

1352
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 1: heard it.

1353
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 3: We actually heard it. And then how did that feel?

1354
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: You know?

1355
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: Although, like you know, I kind of engaged with the

1356
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 3: East Coast to West Coast a little bit on the record,

1357
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: but I never got the experience none of that. Yeah,

1358
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: how did you feel like knowing that? Because I never

1359
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 3: until Biggie and Tupac, like we didn't think that Beef

1360
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 3: would have got that false real like it was a

1361
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 3: battle wrap. It wasn't really about like testing a person's code,

1362
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: so testing a person, city texting a person, period. It

1363
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 3: was just battle rap. It's just like, yo, I think

1364
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: I'm better than you, something to say I'm better than you. Right,

1365
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 3: But this was the first time that it turned How

1366
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: did that feel for you? Not only knowing what's going on,

1367
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: but you knew Biggie too, right, Yeah, yeah, you knew

1368
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 3: Biggie you got to meet Tupac. Yeah, So how did

1369
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 3: that feel for you? Personally? Like you like like damn

1370
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 3: like on both sides and knowing where it went. I'm

1371
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 3: just gonna be a hundred with you man. Like after after.

1372
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 1: Tupac, we always was like as far as us as artists,

1373
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a I'm a I'm a singer, I'm

1374
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: an RVRS. I ain't in that, But I was.

1375
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 3: Always like why are they out there?

1376
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: Why? Yeah, I was like, why are they out there?

1377
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: But you know, it was what it was. You know,

1378
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: wars was given and everything was just partying and all that.

1379
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: But it made us, not only me, just everybody that

1380
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: were that that was involved. As far as on an

1381
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 1: entertainment level, it just made us realize like, look, this

1382
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: is real now, you know, so we gotta really you know,

1383
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 1: we actually thought after pop like we thought it was

1384
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: subside a little bit and all that, but after that

1385
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: we really were like, yo, I didn't go out to LA.

1386
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 3: For a long time and you lived out there. Well

1387
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 3: I had.

1388
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: I had a place out there later later on, but nah, no,

1389
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: I frequented a lot, but I didn't have no place

1390
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: out there.

1391
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 3: I remember me going out there, and after that happened,

1392
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 3: there was still like four years later out there, ninety eight.

1393
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,600
Speaker 3: I think apprehensible, right, You're like, no, no, no, I

1394
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 3: remember a record label was physically not let me land

1395
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 3: without security, right, they would have as soon as I

1396
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 3: landed they were because I don't know if they had

1397
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: the serance policy on me. I don't. I don't know

1398
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: at that time, right, you know, they probably did.

1399
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: It was crazy, so it was crazy they would not

1400
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: let me travel without that without that.

1401
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, just how was it?

1402
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: I was it here again?

1403
01:15:58,040 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 3: We're R and B artist.

1404
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: It totally saying like that, But we we we always

1405
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: had our intentnas up because we didn't know at that

1406
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: point what it was. It was like, I don't give

1407
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: if you a RB areist said ROB and B rap

1408
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:10,759
Speaker 1: or whatever, we're.

1409
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: Gonna get you.

1410
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. But for you know, it

1411
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 1: was one of those situations where we just had to,

1412
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,200
Speaker 1: you know, just keep our eyes open.

1413
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 3: You know, we always stay alert and.

1414
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: Make sure that we're on our square and not slipping.

1415
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 3: Right now, they're saying, like rappers, if you're a rapper,

1416
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 3: that's one of the most dangerous jobs in America. Absolutely.

1417
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 3: Do you feel like do you feel like that statement

1418
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: should be famous people? Is being the most dangerous job

1419
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 3: in the mirror because because if a person will try

1420
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 3: to get me, I think that same person will try

1421
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: to get you. Is that fear or they're gonna say, man,

1422
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 3: genuine NA girl back in the day?

1423
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: Nah, But I don't think it's the same thing.

1424
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the distinction between rap and R

1425
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 1: and B is the distinction, Like it's totally separates crowd.

1426
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah it's not the same, but you still got to

1427
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: keep your head on swivel. You can't think it's sweet,

1428
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you don't know what

1429
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: you've done. Just like you just now said that that's real,

1430
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 1: Like like that stuff happens somebody. You don't know what's

1431
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 1: going on. Social media made it work and people think

1432
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: they know you even more I do say it. Then

1433
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: it could be a woman that you never even knew.

1434
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: She just follows you for your whole life, and her

1435
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,800
Speaker 1: man is sitting there thinking, oh, this is you know

1436
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: what I mean, You probably never even met up, but

1437
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: that's with you.

1438
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 3: He sees that, he sees you somewhere lacking.

1439
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't understand when guys do that,

1440
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: Like like at the end of the day, if that's

1441
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: something that's just happening between your woman and yourself, why

1442
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 1: you met at the guy like don't don't like for

1443
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: what like check that, check that, don't don't mess with it.

1444
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 1: I don't know you, you know what I mean, You

1445
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: ain't my friend, So I don't know why guys do that,

1446
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys do that.

1447
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 3: That's that's happened to someone confront you and say, man,

1448
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 3: I heard that make skip was like that had to happen, like.

1449
01:18:08,680 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 1: There had to be a dude that blame you want

1450
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: you want, but you ain't gonna give mysel close to me.

1451
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: You say you wan.

1452
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: Not in person. That's never happened.

1453
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: Okay, talking about it, of course that that has happened.

1454
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: But again, I don't know you, dude. It's not my friend.

1455
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't know you. Like shake, I ain't hearing that.

1456
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 3: I mean whatever, I got guys to go do what

1457
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 3: I need.

1458
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: Them to do. Oh my god, Okay, what happened. That's

1459
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's hating you right now. You ain't

1460
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 1: gonna say sorry.

1461
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 3: G you want angry boyfriend.

1462
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 10: I don't even know how.

1463
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 3: Jamie. Can we got some time? Yeah, we need to

1464
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 3: get some times right, say it too? Yeah, that definitely

1465
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 3: has happened, bro. Yeah, but that's your job is to

1466
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 3: make music and make.

1467
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: You ain't hit me. You didn't get me, you didn't

1468
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: give me, you didn't give me, because that's that's your job,

1469
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 1: is to make people have babies through your music.

1470
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 3: You don't know how many people, but it's true babies.

1471
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: You're responsible besides your own you know what I'm saying,

1472
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 1: because of the music you make. You making the music

1473
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: right to get people in and hopefully I mean, that's

1474
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: what R and B always was. It was like yo,

1475
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 1: always have been, always will be. You know what I mean.

1476
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 3: This is what we do.

1477
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: We try to We try to make the music that

1478
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,640
Speaker 1: allows you to feel where you are and just you know,

1479
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 1: make love and all that.

1480
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, because that's what R and

1481
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 2: B is. Man, We're not trying to tell you to

1482
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: go shoot.

1483
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: Nobody know. We got this, money, we got this, we

1484
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: got that. But you know, at the end of the.

1485
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 3: Day, man, it's all about love. It's all about respect.

1486
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, David appreciation, you know what I mean. Like

1487
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 3: my foul music, I used to make people just come

1488
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 3: up to me and say, man, I'm went to jail

1489
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 3: and your ship.

1490
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: I was like damn, Like damn, why like people come

1491
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: up to you and say people got to come up

1492
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: to you and be like Joe j you want three

1493
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: of my kids because of you. I didn't get a

1494
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 1: lot of respect from the Brothers until I did same

1495
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 1: O G, Same G.

1496
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gonna stop hating.

1497
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 12: After After that, the Brothers was like you girls, He's like, yeah,

1498
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 12: you got a girl, but you are right.

1499
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: I said, I'll take whatever.

1500
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 3: It's all good, it's all good.

1501
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I didn't get too much love until,

1502
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: you know, especially from the brothers, until after same o

1503
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 1: G you know what I mean.

1504
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 3: So you're telling me you had shows in the beginning,

1505
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: the shows this ninety percent females.

1506
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 7: Ninety five Yeah, I was saving more than that ninety

1507
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 7: five yeah.

1508
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1509
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's a good thing though, I mean yeah, because

1510
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: there's no violence, absolutely no nothing, love nothing but love

1511
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: nothing nothing. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ninety five percent man,

1512
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: like back in the days. Yeah, man, because it was

1513
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the promoters that we were

1514
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: dealing with, they knew how to, you know, piece it together.

1515
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: That's why when you said earlier that he was on

1516
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: to show me, I have been on those shows. I

1517
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: was on the shows with Lil Wayne, right, yeah, Cash,

1518
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: when I was like, what the hell.

1519
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 3: Do y'all got me on the show? This vice versa.

1520
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that absolutely happens, man. So that's why

1521
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: when you said that, I can relate. I understood that, man.

1522
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: But that's my lovers and friends. It's a good concert

1523
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 1: because great, it's like six different stages.

1524
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely, everyone's crowd is going to go to they're a

1525
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: different stage. Yes, I believe I had dip set on,

1526
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 3: which made sense on on the stage that I performed

1527
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 3: and who else was on my stage? Who was there?

1528
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 3: Who else was on my stage? Hinky? Like it was

1529
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 3: like they had like you know, my my this thing

1530
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: is we like like my kind of era hip hop

1531
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 3: when you hit the stage, what's that R and B stage.

1532
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 2: I really don't.

1533
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't really, I don't really no, I really don't remember.

1534
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:39,400
Speaker 1: I think it probably was though. I think they had

1535
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: it set up for I think Chinky was on my stage.

1536
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 3: That's my stage, well on my stage, unless winning around

1537
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 3: it was traveling over. I mean I think that.

1538
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: I think the time thing I think they tried to

1539
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 1: do also as far as like like the years nineties, eighties,

1540
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: uh like the areas that eras.

1541
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,240
Speaker 3: That's what I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's

1542
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: probably what I didn't actually know. That was then Usher's concept.

1543
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: You didn't know that, yeah, because even on the Flyers

1544
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 3: gotsher biggest hell on the top and that's the song

1545
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 3: something you own, tell you something. They were so professional.

1546
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 3: I was like I was like, wait a minute, I

1547
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 3: got a big usher up.

1548
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was.

1549
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: They knew were to get the cards from this point,

1550
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: like you can tell that it was an artist running

1551
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 3: the show. I didn't see. I tried to get I

1552
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: saw everybody but Okay and loud Kim. I didn't get

1553
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 3: to see the little kimp from h we were on

1554
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 3: the same stage. You want to say that even if

1555
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 3: you could tell that was afterwards, I knew. I noticed

1556
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 3: that artists want to take care of another artist. We

1557
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 3: don't really we don't really want to.

1558
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 1: Be put in that position where we can't can't take

1559
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 1: take care of each other.

1560
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 3: So I'm guessing he knows the needs. He knows, Yeah,

1561
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 3: he knows what it is. It's there ever been a

1562
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 3: time you went to a show and was like, man,

1563
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 3: this ship is not to put together. Let me get

1564
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: the fuck out of here, or you just yeah, I

1565
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 3: walked out of some ship before after I performed.

1566
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, ok, yeah, yeah, because like like, if you pay me,

1567
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: you already, Yeah, I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do.

1568
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 3: You know, even if it's unorganized, you don't real to

1569
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 3: give a fucking just I'm gonna you got my money.

1570
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: I gotta do.

1571
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't stay.

1572
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't stay now, especially with tours and everything that

1573
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: I'm on, I usually never stay. I go do what

1574
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do because pretty much we tour with

1575
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 1: each other a lot throughout the summers and all that

1576
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So I've seen pretty much everybody's show,

1577
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: So I don't.

1578
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 2: I don't really stay a lot. I go do what

1579
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do.

1580
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 3: Let me ask you what's on your writer?

1581
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: That's a specific I actually came up with a show

1582
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: called Rituals and Riders, and I was trying to come

1583
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: up with, you know, saying, you know what outlandish things

1584
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: that some of us artists come up with to have

1585
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: on our rider. So and there's there's really Now I'm

1586
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: sorry that that part of it is that you're not

1587
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: going to be entertained, but.

1588
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 3: That all water juices.

1589
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: Just a yellow I know, I know you're talking abouts

1590
01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 1: and snapples on his job. You don't.

1591
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 3: I don't.

1592
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:02,800
Speaker 1: I don't do that.

1593
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 3: You don't have a crazy rider. I went to seafood

1594
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 3: a little bit. That's about his crab legs. That's about

1595
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: it's a little crazy, a little crazy. It's a little crazy.

1596
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:18,640
Speaker 3: Look the room smelled different. You got to receive the

1597
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: panties after that.

1598
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, about to I went to Japan after l The

1599
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: promoters loved me so much after because he must have

1600
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: had the worst wader everybody. God, you had to get

1601
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: green apples, Oh damn in Japan.

1602
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 3: I guess that's exclusive.

1603
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 1: So I guess like red apples is standard in the

1604
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: world and green apples it's not something like that.

1605
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 3: That might be backwards. But he had I'm doing some

1606
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 3: crazy ship and I had Cigars Hennessy at the towns

1607
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 3: a Hennessy drinker that's cigars Hennessy and water. Yeah, and

1608
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 3: maybe a Gatorade. Gatorade at one point.

1609
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 11: That was it.

1610
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 3: I stepped when I went out to l So you're

1611
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 3: telling me you don't got no crazy sit on your

1612
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 3: work crab. Okay, okay, okay, that's that DC ship. Yeah,

1613
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: kid brought them all maryland Lord them crabs.

1614
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 6: How has it been seeing your your audience from the

1615
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 6: early nineties grow up with you?

1616
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: You know what? Throughout my my tenure in this business, man,

1617
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: it's always been a blessing for me to just see

1618
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: the people grow with me. And I've always said I'm

1619
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: not going to be the artist now that's trying to

1620
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: do the things that the young cats is doing right now,

1621
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 1: because I think that's corny.

1622
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 3: How I would never do that, you know what I mean.

1623
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 1: So I think the people that's been with me throughout

1624
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: my time in this business, of course, they're still here,

1625
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1626
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 3: My my my h age thing is like twenty five

1627
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 3: and whatever.

1628
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: You know, I'm at thirty on. So I don't, I don't,

1629
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really buy into, you know, just

1630
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 1: doing what everyone else is doing. I think that, you know,

1631
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: as an artist, you got to continue to build with

1632
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: the people that's been following you for the year. Yeah,

1633
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: your foundation is there, so cater to them, don't try to.

1634
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: They got who they have, they got what they want,

1635
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: they got who they like. Don't try to be that,

1636
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: you know, continue to move on your your your legacy

1637
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: and keep moving in your time and people will support you.

1638
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: You just got to do the things that they they

1639
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: they feel as interesting and you know, and and and

1640
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: and doing the things that you've been doing. But at

1641
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:46,760
Speaker 1: that point, like when the people constantly you know, support you,

1642
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: they have to realize that at the end of the day,

1643
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: you should not change. They shouldn't change, they should go.

1644
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:54,799
Speaker 1: They're going to be there.

1645
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 2: And hopefully they'll they'll just still support you.

1646
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 3: How is it having a cult? That's what it seems like.

1647
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: No cold coke, hope I did, I wish I did,

1648
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 3: I wish I did. Loyal folk, a loyal following. Some

1649
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,719
Speaker 3: people might take it as a colt. We just said earlier,

1650
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 3: yeah about the followers, and what did you say? Sometimes

1651
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: it's a color religion is what I know? That you

1652
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 3: have followers when you when you're out twenty five years,

1653
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,600
Speaker 3: most people say in five years they tired of this

1654
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 3: artist all ship two years? Right now six months? You

1655
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 3: know what I mean?

1656
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: Right now?

1657
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 3: Six months? This is supposed to be music music. For

1658
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 3: you to have such an illustrious and you know career

1659
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 3: that lasted that long, it has to be like see

1660
01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 3: it like you go, you're going back to Minnesota. You

1661
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: probably see that same dude that was there ten years ago,

1662
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 3: and that shit is dope.

1663
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Seeing that same fans and they're growing, they having kids now,

1664
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 1: like that shit has got to be amazing feeling.

1665
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: How does it.

1666
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 1: Totally feels great to have have the following that you have, man?

1667
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: And just when you say the cult thing and all that.

1668
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:05,799
Speaker 1: That's that's great, man, that's great because it's a testament

1669
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: to you know, what you've done throughout your career and

1670
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 1: the feelings and the people that you've touched, and so

1671
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,400
Speaker 1: that's that's vital. That's important in order for you, for

1672
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 1: you to have longeviy. So so as long as you

1673
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: do that, I always tell these young cats like, try

1674
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: to do time this music. Don't don't don't do flavor

1675
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: of the month, do timeless music, because I've seen them coming,

1676
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 1: I've seen them go.

1677
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 3: I've seen them coming and I've seen them go, and

1678
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, this is credibly when you've seen them

1679
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: arab they were cocky, they were very.

1680
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: You the old there like okay, all right because I

1681
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: was told that too, like early on, and that's what

1682
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: you know. Gauge gauged me in and I was just like, okay,

1683
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: just always just be you also, but also remain the

1684
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: humble person that you are, because it can be here

1685
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 1: today and gone tomorrow. One of the one of the

1686
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: craziest things that happened to me was when I went

1687
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: up to Sony and I asked them, I was like,

1688
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,080
Speaker 1: release me.

1689
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, you know how it is when.

1690
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 1: A new whole team comes in, takes takes over a

1691
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: label and they're not even talking about you. They don't

1692
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: even have any sign you. They didn't sign you, so

1693
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: they don't have no to.

1694
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 3: So I'm looking, I'm just like, God, wait, man, this

1695
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 3: happens like every five years and then.

1696
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: And so I went up there, and I went up

1697
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: there and I was like, you know what, y'all not

1698
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 1: messing with me. Yeah, I didn't use those words.

1699
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, So let me go.

1700
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: Let me do what I do. Y'all ain't you know?

1701
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: I don't mens me. And when that happened.

1702
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: The first time that I felt it was when we

1703
01:31:54,280 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 1: did a show and some of those artists from that

1704
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 1: label on the show, and the people that I.

1705
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 3: Knew that were the reps or whatever. They was like, man,

1706
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:04,640
Speaker 3: we can't work with you.

1707
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Man, you can't because the label said this and the

1708
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: label said that, and you truly, as an artist feel naked.

1709
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 1: You don't because we came up in the era where

1710
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,880
Speaker 1: everything was taken care of it for us.

1711
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 3: And so like when that happened, I was like, it's real,

1712
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 3: It's real.

1713
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: So there's never been another time there's never been a time.

1714
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 3: Where you feel so naked in the business.

1715
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: And I was just looking at Unsung I think it was,

1716
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,639
Speaker 1: and Money said the same things. He was like, once

1717
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: you do that, like you, Yeah, you don't know where

1718
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 1: to go, you don't know who to talk to, You

1719
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: don't know. It feels like you just got shut out

1720
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: your house, you know. So one of the questions you

1721
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: forgot to ask some quick time with Slive is major

1722
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: all independent?

1723
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 3: What do you prefer? Wow?

1724
01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I still I still prefer the major, but not the

1725
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: three sixty.

1726
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 3: That comes with the major.

1727
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Like and that's just because the time that I was

1728
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: I was in the business. The independent thing is a

1729
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: great thing, but you have to be a special individual

1730
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to be independent because you got to be willing to

1731
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,760
Speaker 1: put in that work and your own money. You put

1732
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: up your own money and risk it. And you know,

1733
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: for me, I came up during the time where everything

1734
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: was taking care of for you. And you know, now,

1735
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to start over like that. I'm just

1736
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: blessed to be in a position that I'm in to

1737
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,320
Speaker 1: continue to do the things that I'm doing, shows, TV

1738
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff because of the history

1739
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: that I've created. So and you have a gold independent album, right,

1740
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: I have a yeah, gold independent album. Yeah yeah, yeah, yes,

1741
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: it was a man's thoughts. Yeah, that's the last chance

1742
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: you Yeah, yeah, that's that's.

1743
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 3: Most people celebrate an independent album at fifty thousand to

1744
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand, break that because most of even less.

1745
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 3: I mean, you sold thirty independent. That's true, it's a

1746
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 3: lot of money. But what I'm saying is if you

1747
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 3: if you was a platinum artist before and you went major,

1748
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 3: it's like that was the numbers from fifty thousand to

1749
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand. You know, obviously anything more as a plus,

1750
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,640
Speaker 3: but the fact that you had a chance to do that,

1751
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 3: what gold for one hundred thousand that you that's really saying.

1752
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't know right right there, because I was with

1753
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 2: we got the same name because we fell out.

1754
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't want to say the name,

1755
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: but we did. We did a goot good job. So

1756
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, for me to continue on after that was

1757
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: a big situation for me. But I realized, like, once

1758
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,120
Speaker 1: you get to a search certain point and you've made

1759
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 1: your statement and you've done a lot in the business,

1760
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 1: you're pretty much on cruise control. If you know, what

1761
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,799
Speaker 1: you're doing. And I've been on cruise control for fifteen

1762
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: years now, you know what I mean?

1763
01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 3: Ten fifteen years.

1764
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: So when people ask me, are you coming out with anything,

1765
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, but I'm gonna do it when

1766
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: I need to do it or I feel it. You know,

1767
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it just because you know you're

1768
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 1: saying I should do it. And a lot of my

1769
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,360
Speaker 1: friends and people that around me don't understand that. But

1770
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 1: it's not for you to understand. You gotta feel it,

1771
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:19,880
Speaker 1: you know. I remember back in the days where we

1772
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: used to go in the studio.

1773
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 3: We would lock it out for two months. We won't

1774
01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,840
Speaker 3: do that no more. They don't do that no more.

1775
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 1: It's probably spending two hundred thousand doing that. Yeah about

1776
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,439
Speaker 1: that with the Fool budget is different remember the Reils. Yes, yes,

1777
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: it's carry a little doff around.

1778
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, we just different back then.

1779
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 3: There's a lot of money back then.

1780
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,200
Speaker 1: To be wasted. Back then, we.

1781
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 3: Couldn't punch department was taking extra money. The good part

1782
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:48,720
Speaker 3: about that analog is we learned not to punch in Like, yeah,

1783
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 3: but these kids make your work. Yeah, I can hear

1784
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 3: when you punched in like, you have to be good.

1785
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 3: You have to be always say good. I always say

1786
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,840
Speaker 3: analogue was ill and you picked that I said earlier. Yeah,

1787
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 3: because me and FN have this debate and I think

1788
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: we were pretty much on the same side. Is that

1789
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,200
Speaker 3: because back in the days, if you wanted to do

1790
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 3: a record with me or I want to do a

1791
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 3: record with you, I would have to go to d

1792
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 3: C or you would have to come to New York.

1793
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 3: We have to sit in both filled out the vibe,

1794
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And depending on.

1795
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: How we vibe, that's depending on how great the record

1796
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: would come out.

1797
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 3: Do you think that's something that's missing out here?

1798
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 1: Absolutely in you saying that I was one of we

1799
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 1: were one of the artists during that era that had

1800
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: that that that had that ability to do that. NAS

1801
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: and me when we did that, he was in LA

1802
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:45,840
Speaker 1: I was yeah, I mean he was in New York.

1803
01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: I was in LA. Oh. Yeah, I didn't do that.

1804
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 1: We never even had met until the video shoot Get

1805
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 1: the Funk out of Here, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1806
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 3: We we wasn't in the same and it was physically

1807
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 3: sending the reels in the mail and that was that

1808
01:36:58,520 --> 01:36:58,720
Speaker 3: was the.

1809
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 1: First time, not first time, I'm pretty sure, but that

1810
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: was that era when people didn't have to be what

1811
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: he think, and of course actually crossing into digital at

1812
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: that time, yeah, into it, so so yeah. I mean

1813
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: I heard him, he was in the studio. I didn't

1814
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: see him what he but I heard he was like,

1815
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: what was up? All you guys were live? Yeah, like

1816
01:37:19,880 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: for real, talked about even him doing stuff like that.

1817
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 3: So so so we did you know? I was in

1818
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,599
Speaker 3: l A and he and he was in New York.

1819
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:36,639
Speaker 1: You gotta shot shots, right, Let's go. God, damn, let's go, Horner.

1820
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 3: This is sucking me up. So what is your favorite part?

1821
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:44,599
Speaker 3: Is it making the music or performing the music? Performing?

1822
01:37:44,680 --> 01:37:48,559
Speaker 3: I could I could tell your answer already get pennies

1823
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 3: throwing him. I'm gonna be honest with you, go said,

1824
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 3: when you on that stage, I see I see you

1825
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: having so much.

1826
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 1: That's fun, but not only that. Yes, I see that

1827
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: that's your dope man. That's where I'm comfortable at.

1828
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I see that.

1829
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 1: That's your dope man. That's where I'm totally comfortable. I

1830
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 1: was telling my brother everybody, sister over there, Gussie, we

1831
01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 1: were talking in in the I can't I can't let

1832
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 1: y'all know what I'm doing. But she they know that

1833
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually a little like reserved.

1834
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,879
Speaker 3: I don't like to use shy. Yeah, I'm a little reserved.

1835
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: And I never like to come out of my comfort zone.

1836
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1837
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:34,639
Speaker 2: So stage is your stage is my comfort zone.

1838
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. So I can be silly,

1839
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 3: hen be dumb, I can be serious. All all things

1840
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 3: is doable on.

1841
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: The stage, you know what I'm saying. But I hate

1842
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: the studio. I can't stand the studio. Bro tires like

1843
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 1: that too. My boy, he's like that too, living there.

1844
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: But I can't stand the quicker. I can't get out

1845
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: quick enough. Who's somebody who make you feel comfortable in

1846
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 1: the studio, something that makes you feel no one's ever

1847
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: in the studio. When I'm in the studio, it's only

1848
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: me and the engineer. Wow, not even the producer. I

1849
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: put tim out. I put everybody is like she doesn't

1850
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: like to anybody. I'm telling you, that's.

1851
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 3: Unless your cancer, that's what your history.

1852
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need you can't be in here.

1853
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't.

1854
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: I don't need you to tell me when I'm off.

1855
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 1: And then I don't like to whole have a whole

1856
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:31,760
Speaker 1: bunch of people there, and then if I do something

1857
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:32,240
Speaker 1: they say.

1858
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:35,920
Speaker 13: I don't like that.

1859
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 3: I don't need you to reconcile that I'm good. I

1860
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 3: don't need you.

1861
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 1: You here to finished product. That's all they need you

1862
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 1: to do.

1863
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:44,679
Speaker 3: I don't.

1864
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't like nobody in the studio.

1865
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: If you a writer, right, give give give me the

1866
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: track whatever, the local track, yeah and get out. Yeah,

1867
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm good.

1868
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 3: But when you come back, you be like, whoa. That's

1869
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 3: what it is with me. Is anybody you ever work

1870
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 3: with and you wanted to work with got to work

1871
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 3: with them? It was disappointed? No never, It's pretty much

1872
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 3: no never never, Like, yeah, I haven't worked with too

1873
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,639
Speaker 3: many people. Pop boy, that boy had a party.

1874
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 1: Of course, Sibilians see yeah, I got my baby girl.

1875
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: I love her and miss her daily. Yeah no, no,

1876
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 1: no again, because it's not too many people that I

1877
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,600
Speaker 1: will allow in the studio that I will work with,

1878
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 1: because if it's something that I didn't like, I just

1879
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 1: didn't do it, you know what I mean.

1880
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,479
Speaker 3: So I heard you say that Missy called you one

1881
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 3: day and said that she had a dream that Aliah

1882
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 3: forgave you yes, yes, and we were all wondering, like Aliah,

1883
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 3: what was what did Missy mean that a Liah for

1884
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 3: gave for not leaving Devarte on time?

1885
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, she had nothing to do with

1886
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: at all like that. That's prior to to us meeting her,

1887
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 1: Missy Temple. It was the beef with It was just

1888
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 1: me and her like during during that time. Here's what

1889
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: the issue was. We all was, you know, like a family,

1890
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 1: you know, Missy Timberland, her myself, magoole player tweet, all

1891
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 1: of us.

1892
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 3: I love how you keep naming all of them. I

1893
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 3: got loved that. I love that.

1894
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,240
Speaker 2: I love that got I love that. I gotta get

1895
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 2: lays hear me.

1896
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 3: I respect it. But her and I weren't seeing that.

1897
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: I you know what I mean. And I think it

1898
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,479
Speaker 1: had a lot more to do with her loyalty to

1899
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 1: her uncle then it had to do who you are

1900
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 1: beefing with at the time or yeah, a little bit

1901
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 1: cool with her uncle Barry Hankerson as uh, he was

1902
01:41:56,600 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: the record head and he was the company, was my manager.

1903
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 1: I just decided to leave because of whatever reason, you

1904
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so you know, of course,

1905
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: her loyalty is to her family, and so you know,

1906
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 1: that's where pretty much stemmed from. We ain't had no

1907
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 1: beef now is a woman. I ain't beef for no girl,

1908
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it was just one

1909
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 1: of those things where our time had had, you know, separated,

1910
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, and so I always wanted to make sure

1911
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: that we were cool. But you know, I never got

1912
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: the chance and an opportunity, you know, to explain whatever

1913
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:34,719
Speaker 1: it was because things things that was happening. I'm pretty

1914
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: sure she was just being told whatever it was, the

1915
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: narrative of whatever it was with me, but it was

1916
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: a lot behind that, and I think at the end

1917
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: of the day she understood. But Missy came and she

1918
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 1: told me one time she had a dream that Aliah said,

1919
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:51,960
Speaker 1: don't worry about it.

1920
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: She forgive me, and I cried, that's crazy shot for that.

1921
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:03,519
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, going here with the shop of YPO.

1922
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,880
Speaker 3: What do you think Ali would be if she was

1923
01:43:07,040 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 3: still alive in this in this stay.

1924
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: I would want her to be on the level where

1925
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:18,640
Speaker 1: where uh B is, I said, yeah, But yeah, I mean,

1926
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 1: you just never you just never know. I know that

1927
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: she was headed toward that direction, like she was doing

1928
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:26,960
Speaker 1: the movies. She was doing of course she was doing music,

1929
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: she was dancing and all that, so you know, we

1930
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: just will never know, and that's the bad thing about it.

1931
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 1: But I believe she would god probably be because her

1932
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: work work ethic was crazy.

1933
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 3: She would she would.

1934
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: I mean she was doing everything, man, So I think,

1935
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, as long as she kept that up, and

1936
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: she was believable of course in movies and all that

1937
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So she had every every bit of

1938
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 1: talent that was needed for her to uh, you know,

1939
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: persevere and continue to move forward in that, in that genre,

1940
01:43:58,320 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: in that and in that entertainment field.

1941
01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 2: So who knows, man, I think she would have been big.

1942
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,760
Speaker 3: I would hope she would have been bad. I think so, yeah,

1943
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 3: she would have been. How was it being in the

1944
01:44:14,960 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 3: Juana Man not Juwanna man?

1945
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 1: Man?

1946
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 3: It was a great time and a horrible time for me?

1947
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:34,240
Speaker 1: Wow, because that was first of all, it was a

1948
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: great time because it was like my first movie, and

1949
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:42,040
Speaker 1: so I was nervous as hell. So we all remember

1950
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:49,880
Speaker 1: how and still is like how beautiful and and and

1951
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:51,839
Speaker 1: big Vivica Foxia.

1952
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 2: So here's my first movie and I'm her boyfriend. I

1953
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 2: don't know.

1954
01:44:58,360 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 3: What to do, how to do it?

1955
01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I got a kiss and sing, So, dude, I'm nervous

1956
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: as hell, And so I'm like, do I.

1957
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:09,800
Speaker 3: Stick my tongue out of my mouth? Do I do

1958
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,559
Speaker 3: I kiss her?

1959
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: For real?

1960
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:14,719
Speaker 3: Do you're not asking anybody? No, I'm in my head.

1961
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:18,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, so you just because I'm thinking movies, I'm like,

1962
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 2: make it.

1963
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 3: Believable, nigga, make it believable, Make believble. So I said,

1964
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:25,640
Speaker 3: do I do this? Do I not do I?

1965
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 1: So she came in and there I happened to ask her.

1966
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I don't know what to do

1967
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: on this record. You asked her her.

1968
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:34,759
Speaker 3: I mean, she's.

1969
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, like I'm nervous, you

1970
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: vivicualt fox like like she and she she was so

1971
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 1: cool though.

1972
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 3: She made it so easy. She said kiss me. I said,

1973
01:45:49,160 --> 01:46:04,639
Speaker 3: oh my god, go ahead, go ahead. I was like, okay.

1974
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 3: But still, but even even even with so did you

1975
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 3: tongue her down there? But even with wanting to be

1976
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 3: with that, it's still awkward because it's still six seven

1977
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:21,519
Speaker 3: eight cameras is so awkward. So how did that happen?

1978
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I probably fumbled the first time because I really didn't

1979
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 1: I really didn't know everything else I was cool with.

1980
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 3: But I was like, okay, you gotta. I think she's

1981
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 3: with some guy I forgot to do.

1982
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: Nine. I think it was a guy named sixty nine

1983
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: or something. I think she was no, not no, no, no,

1984
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,439
Speaker 1: it was like a guy. So I think I was like, well,

1985
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:48,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's easy, that's probably notice.

1986
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:52,439
Speaker 3: But a gang member. No no, no, he was on,

1987
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,320
Speaker 3: was saying he was on. He wasn't on.

1988
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

1989
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 3: But again, this is my first movie.

1990
01:46:59,280 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1991
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it, dude, I don't know,

1992
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1993
01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 3: So so she was just like kiss me. I was like,

1994
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:19,719
Speaker 3: got you. Yeah.

1995
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 1: It was great for me man as far as that

1996
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:24,720
Speaker 1: first start of it.

1997
01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:28,920
Speaker 3: But on that set, my mom passed yeah, so so

1998
01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 3: so it was. It was.

1999
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:31,839
Speaker 1: It was great. Not only.

2000
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:38,720
Speaker 2: What's her name, Kim Wayne's her brother passed on on yeah,

2001
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:39,680
Speaker 2: and so it was.

2002
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 11: It was.

2003
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 1: It was. It was a crazy set, but we got

2004
01:47:42,479 --> 01:47:46,400
Speaker 1: through it and everybody was you know, and it's one

2005
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: of those movies that you got to go back and

2006
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,759
Speaker 1: look at you know how you Yeah, it's one of those.

2007
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Movies you got to go back and look at me, like, oh,

2008
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 2: this was great.

2009
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: This was dope.

2010
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, but yeah, man, it was good and then

2011
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 3: it was bad for me, and it was that.

2012
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Was that the time you got your love for acting?

2013
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,519
Speaker 1: Or do you have the love for acting? Way before that?

2014
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 1: I've really never had a love for acting. Yeah before, Yeah,

2015
01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: I really.

2016
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just now like opening up to a

2017
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 2: lot of it.

2018
01:48:18,280 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 1: I've been in parks and recreation, I've been in I

2019
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: did a couple of movies and Honey and the Moesha

2020
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 1: and all that, and you know, I knew that just

2021
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 1: came with it. I just wanted the stage, you know

2022
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, all that stuff came with it. I didn't.

2023
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know about that. You know, that was new

2024
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: to me, is it? Because like you know, they have

2025
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,679
Speaker 1: you hurry up and wait like that type of ship. Well,

2026
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, especially on movie Sesson, your hurry up and

2027
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,759
Speaker 1: wait and I'm in patient a lot of times, especially

2028
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 1: back then. I'm just learning a lot of patients. You know,

2029
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 1: having seven girls, you're gonna learn pay seven girls. Yeah,

2030
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,719
Speaker 1: so so so I've learned to have a little more patience,

2031
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 1: But early on I had none, Like if you get

2032
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: my food wrong, and then the drive through, like I

2033
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 1: just told you the right order, Like why like why

2034
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 1: don't you have the right Like I was very impatient,

2035
01:49:13,680 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 1: Like I had to learn patience like.

2036
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 3: Early on, you know what I mean. So yeah, because

2037
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 3: movie set is real. Yeah, movie sech is real. Absolutely well.

2038
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:27,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2039
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:29,200
Speaker 3: I did plays and stuff like that.

2040
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: Man, But you know, that was really one of the

2041
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to open up as far as

2042
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: uh going into movies and stuff like that.

2043
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 3: Because with plays, it's so dope, is it? One take?

2044
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 3: That's the thing. You feel more comfortable on the stage

2045
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 3: with the plays.

2046
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,720
Speaker 1: I was like this, I can do more environment you

2047
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: got an ad lib. Like with with movies and all

2048
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Sometimes you can't even stutter. Sometimes

2049
01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 1: you can't even say your line twice or something just.

2050
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 3: To get on to the next do different takes and

2051
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,120
Speaker 3: do it the same way. And that's not me.

2052
01:50:03,360 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I've never been in the ABC one, two three. It's

2053
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: always on the whim. Just I don't practice. I don't

2054
01:50:10,280 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 1: do none of that. Like I practice.

2055
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 3: Let me practice. I need to listen. Even to this day,

2056
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 3: I don't practice.

2057
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 2: Like like like my singers and dancers and band members

2058
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 2: they go to sound check.

2059
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 3: I don't go to sound checks sound like somebody I.

2060
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:34,800
Speaker 1: Know here man like like like we're gonna wing it,

2061
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: like we're gonna wing it because I think the best

2062
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: things creatively come to you when you winging it, like

2063
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 1: all the ABC one two three, like of course, if

2064
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 1: you're doing certain things, I guess it calls for it.

2065
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,200
Speaker 3: But me as an artist, give me tell me how much.

2066
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: Time I got put the clock right there, but thirty

2067
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 1: minutes for the front match, I got it. Y'all got

2068
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: the songs? Yeah, you know what songs to play? Let's

2069
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: go and you depend on them now these jay we

2070
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 1: have a DJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a DJ.

2071
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:04,200
Speaker 3: We do have the song list?

2072
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a song just yeah yeah yeah. So so

2073
01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: let me do look at my cues boom all that.

2074
01:51:11,600 --> 01:51:14,600
Speaker 1: You all that, but you're edit accordingly depending looking at

2075
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 1: the time.

2076
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 3: Absolutely so T T G. We never never get t

2077
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:21,960
Speaker 3: T here we gotta get yeah, we never get a

2078
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 3: shot shop woman warming up, warm it up.

2079
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: 's h First off, I know you probably said this

2080
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,880
Speaker 1: sorry for other places, but for.

2081
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 3: Our fans, oh here we go, get to you. No, no,

2082
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 3: we have we had tank, we had tank, take tank.

2083
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 3: But for our fans, we don't know what happened right,

2084
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 3: and we can't see why it can't be worked out.

2085
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 3: So just just I mean, I probably know, I don't

2086
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 3: I don't think I know, but our fans to the

2087
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 3: fans out there that don't know, who's probably never heard

2088
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,880
Speaker 3: your side of the story, it's really to tell the truth.

2089
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know a lot of the stuff that

2090
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:12,040
Speaker 1: the guys has been saying, But it has never been

2091
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:14,800
Speaker 1: because of them. It has always been because of me

2092
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:17,560
Speaker 1: fallen out of love with music for a while, you

2093
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

2094
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 2: So that's just what it would have been. I don't

2095
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,760
Speaker 2: even know how they explain it.

2096
01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: I think people form their own opinions when it comes

2097
01:52:25,880 --> 01:52:29,640
Speaker 1: to that, but that is so wrong when you know

2098
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:33,639
Speaker 1: you truly don't talk to one another to find out

2099
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: certain things. But at the end of the day, me,

2100
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: I've always felt like listen and if I get that

2101
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,960
Speaker 1: love back for that, then and then I'll do it.

2102
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 3: First of all, if.

2103
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: I had the love or one wanted to do an album,

2104
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 1: I'd have done it for myself first. I haven't came

2105
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: out with the CDs and since since TGT or whatever,

2106
01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:57,759
Speaker 1: so it's never.

2107
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:01,640
Speaker 2: Been about tie or tag, you know what I mean.

2108
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: Or nothing like that. It's just I don't never want

2109
01:53:05,280 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: to cheat my audience ever, you know what I mean,

2110
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:10,840
Speaker 1: If I can't give you one hundred and ten percent,

2111
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:14,000
Speaker 1: so I am not going in there. If I don't

2112
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: feel it, I'm not going in there. And sometimes it

2113
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 1: other it takes people a certain amount of time to

2114
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,520
Speaker 1: get in there and get that love and that appreciation

2115
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 1: for what they're doing and just to want to give

2116
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:32,280
Speaker 1: their best and have that competitive spirit. For a while,

2117
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have that competitive spirit anymore. So I just

2118
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 1: did not want to go in there and cheat my audience.

2119
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,800
Speaker 1: Had nothing to do with them, you know what I mean,

2120
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:44,600
Speaker 1: nothing to do it. But again that's why when you

2121
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 1: say that, you never heard that from me, because I'm

2122
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: not fighting you. I'm not going to fight you know

2123
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: the people out there that think something or whatever, you know,

2124
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: until you hear it from my mouth, like that's what

2125
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,600
Speaker 1: it's going to be, that's what it is.

2126
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 3: But no, it's never been. For Tie, that's my boy, Tank,

2127
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:04,880
Speaker 3: that's my boy.

2128
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is. But I don't

2129
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 1: want to cheat them, and most of water, I don't

2130
01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: want to cheat the people and was supposed to be

2131
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:19,599
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I actually I started the whole thing, the concept,

2132
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 1: and of course it wasn't TGT. We came up with

2133
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 1: that as we was working, but with a plane tank

2134
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: I think that way.

2135
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember. I don't remember.

2136
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 2: But Tie wasn't even our first my first choice.

2137
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: It was a vant levant was doing a record, was

2138
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,320
Speaker 1: coming out with a record, and so he was like,

2139
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 1: I can't uh, you know whatever, and so I was like,

2140
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: come on, let's call TIE. And so it was formulated

2141
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: like in two thousand and eight, but it never was

2142
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:55,240
Speaker 1: brought to fruition to what two thousand and thirteen, fourteen whatever.

2143
01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 14: It was.

2144
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, but once that half then a lot of

2145
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 2: other things.

2146
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Came in in the play. So I was just like, ah, man, okay,

2147
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:10,000
Speaker 1: money issue, yeah, yeah, yeah, And for for me, that

2148
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:12,800
Speaker 1: is one one of that is one of the issues

2149
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: early on, right, I don't think you get into a

2150
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,680
Speaker 1: group to say that you're better than the group, like

2151
01:55:18,800 --> 01:55:21,920
Speaker 1: if you're if you feel that way, stay so yeah,

2152
01:55:22,480 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, You don't. You don't get

2153
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: into a group to say, oh, I'm bigger or whatever.

2154
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 1: And so that that rubbed me the wrong way first

2155
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 1: of all. But I was still like Okay, let's let's

2156
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,240
Speaker 1: It took a little convincing, you know what I mean,

2157
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: But I was like, okay.

2158
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 3: Let's let's do this. But it was the second time

2159
01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 3: that the same thing happened.

2160
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: Because I was already through the first time and I

2161
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: entertained it the second time, and once that subject in

2162
01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: that specific situation came up and it was again that

2163
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm good.

2164
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm good, dog. I mean, you can answer this. I'm

2165
01:55:57,880 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 3: good except way you want. But when you say that

2166
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:03,040
Speaker 3: he got more money, are we talking about for the

2167
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:04,080
Speaker 3: upfront advanced?

2168
01:56:04,200 --> 01:56:04,240
Speaker 11: No?

2169
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 2: No, no, no, for sure show It was like a

2170
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,800
Speaker 2: show thing and like the upfront.

2171
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,960
Speaker 1: But then but here's what I presented to present it,

2172
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:16,400
Speaker 1: you know, the second go round, I was like, Okay,

2173
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: we can do that, but when the bills come in, you.

2174
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:24,440
Speaker 2: Pay that same percentage that you're getting. It can't be

2175
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:27,520
Speaker 2: can't be equal when the bill come in.

2176
01:56:27,880 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2177
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 3: So we're gonna keep it funky, keeping funky. So So

2178
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 3: once that was discussing, I was like, first of all,

2179
01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm cool, bro, I'm cool.

2180
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 1: I don't I'm cool. I'm comfortable, so I don't need

2181
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 1: to do it and so I've always been a true

2182
01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:49,320
Speaker 1: believer the things that the way that things start out

2183
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:52,680
Speaker 1: is the way that things finished. And so with me

2184
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:57,120
Speaker 1: already being on the edge after the first time going

2185
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: into the second time, it's being that way. I was like, Okay,

2186
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: so we won't fight, so we won't hate each other.

2187
01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I actually even say, get another person. I

2188
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,480
Speaker 1: don't know if even actually told you.

2189
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if he.

2190
01:57:14,040 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 1: I say, I said, get another letter, Like I'm good,

2191
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: get another letter, you know what I mean. And so

2192
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,920
Speaker 1: I think I think that that's what you know what

2193
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 1: what drove me to the point where like, okay, cool,

2194
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm we're still friends.

2195
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 3: I want to still be you know whatever. But but

2196
01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:34,600
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna be honest. It is a classic. It is.

2197
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 3: I love that record.

2198
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't even listen to my own records, but that

2199
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 1: CD I listened to is absolutely listen to. What would

2200
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: it take nothing? I can't do it speaking from his

2201
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: own now, I'm not gonna do it. My brother hate that,

2202
01:57:52,680 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: but you absolutely say never.

2203
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 3: Never. I'm not doing that because you before you were

2204
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 3: saying when you when you're ready.

2205
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not down. Now I'm talking about me. Yeah, I'm

2206
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: not doing that no more. Wow, do we take a

2207
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: shot to that? We can't never?

2208
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:09,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. On,

2209
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:14,040
Speaker 3: I gotta start right here. Let's go, let's go. Come on, listen, listen,

2210
01:58:14,600 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 3: you gotta take it. We're gonna sit this one this time.

2211
01:58:18,640 --> 01:58:19,440
Speaker 3: Let's sip this mother.

2212
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:20,440
Speaker 5: Let's say.

2213
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, say yeah, you never can say never again.

2214
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 3: I'm be real with it. Never can say never. But

2215
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 3: that's way I am now now. But wait for your shot.

2216
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 3: Maybe the right situation. I'm watching very closely, sir. Go ahead.

2217
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 3: It's not a shot. This is not okay, wow, because

2218
01:58:41,960 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 3: if a label came with the right situation, because let's

2219
01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 3: suppose that's another situation. Let's suppose there's another situation that

2220
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 3: caused the situation. Yes, listen, let him expland I'm bad.

2221
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:52,920
Speaker 3: I'm bad.

2222
01:58:52,960 --> 01:58:55,160
Speaker 1: Ahead, I don't even know how to explain this though,

2223
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: because it's all it's all got to do with the time.

2224
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 3: Okay, back in the day, if we if if if we.

2225
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: Didn't do something that we were supposed to do, and

2226
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 1: we contracted, we contractually obligated ourselves to do, would they

2227
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:13,920
Speaker 1: give us a pass?

2228
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 3: But let me, let me, let me be. I'm just

2229
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 3: you're asking about the deals back then. Yeah, usually wouldn't

2230
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 3: give this is something.

2231
01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:27,320
Speaker 6: This is true for thought this, but let me be

2232
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 6: that was you'd be stuck on the label and definitely

2233
01:59:29,480 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 6: if you didn't do what you had to do.

2234
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 3: How about this, let me be demo's advocate. What if

2235
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,680
Speaker 3: a label came to y'all and said, I want to

2236
01:59:36,080 --> 01:59:38,440
Speaker 3: buy T G T right. Okay, I want to get

2237
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 3: T G T right. But what and but the thing is,

2238
01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to negotiate with you on the side. I'm

2239
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:49,040
Speaker 3: going to negotiate with him on the side. Done, and

2240
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,360
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. No, but what what if that

2241
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:55,280
Speaker 3: what if that label comes with the number you want

2242
01:59:55,320 --> 01:59:56,800
Speaker 3: to forget?

2243
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 1: The number?

2244
01:59:57,520 --> 02:00:00,560
Speaker 3: No? No, no, we we if if you want to

2245
02:00:00,640 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 3: split down the middle three? Yeah, to talk about, but

2246
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:10,440
Speaker 3: what came and what a number that you like?

2247
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:15,080
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck no, because because you group?

2248
02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 1: Why can you say it's a possibility that anyone.

2249
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:21,480
Speaker 3: Else story If we are in a group, we are

2250
02:00:21,640 --> 02:00:24,880
Speaker 3: a group. If you want to be solo, just go

2251
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 3: sold let me alone. Let me understand your aloud.

2252
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,960
Speaker 1: You can't get in a group or anything to say

2253
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 1: you're better that that that now turns turns it into

2254
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: something else between you and me, you know what I mean,

2255
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: like like and so that's why I took the higher

2256
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: road and was like, it's not like we started out

2257
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 1: as a group. And that's why I feel for a

2258
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 1: lot of groups, because a lot of times that's what

2259
02:00:54,200 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 1: you will only be known for, feeling we are three

2260
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 1: kings solo sept have to do this, you know what

2261
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean.

2262
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 3: Don't have to do this, Todd, don't have to do this.

2263
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:12,160
Speaker 1: So we did that because we are friends and we

2264
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,040
Speaker 1: felt that it would be something special for the people.

2265
02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:19,840
Speaker 1: But the inner inner, you know stuff, you know, kind

2266
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: of messed a lot of things up. But it wasn't

2267
02:01:22,400 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 1: because you know, I wasn't willing to ben and you know,

2268
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 1: try to make things work.

2269
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:32,120
Speaker 3: I did that in the beginning.

2270
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: If if, if, if I was stuck to my guns,

2271
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 1: they would never even been the first joint.

2272
02:01:39,200 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 3: Right now, if someone comes and says three three three

2273
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:46,120
Speaker 3: split down the middle, lying MAUI, you're gonna make the

2274
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,480
Speaker 3: record for all damn you. You know what I mean?

2275
02:01:48,520 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 13: Heybo, we should have had to talk, but devastated right there,

2276
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:09,240
Speaker 13: you know, you didn't take.

2277
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:14,680
Speaker 3: This too, look at all. Oh yeah, let's not keep.

2278
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:17,320
Speaker 1: My evidence right here, just in case anybody you can smell.

2279
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:21,120
Speaker 3: Every cup is de leon in there. God damn it.

2280
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 3: You're drinking choices Hennessy. Yes, so you used to like

2281
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 3: to fight a lot. Yes, and we call that Look

2282
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,120
Speaker 3: at me pretty because.

2283
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, because anybody who drinking Hennessy and my acknowledgement.

2284
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, very aggressive person, you're very laid back. You got

2285
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 3: it together. Yeah, at one point, at one point he

2286
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:49,840
Speaker 3: was wanding out when you was on tour. Yeah, you

2287
02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:50,839
Speaker 3: was drinking hennessy.

2288
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like.

2289
02:02:55,600 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 2: If he was, uh social media back then, it's been

2290
02:02:58,800 --> 02:02:59,480
Speaker 2: a little different.

2291
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no tough guy stuff.

2292
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:05,240
Speaker 1: It was just stupid young boy stuff, you know, nothing

2293
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:09,040
Speaker 1: tough guys like that. But yeah, I'm glad it was

2294
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: no social media back then.

2295
02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, sir, sir. Yeah, what's what's like the walls thing

2296
02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 3: you've seen on tour? You question? How about the below something?

2297
02:03:26,640 --> 02:03:29,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, come on, man, like like the

2298
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:32,280
Speaker 3: tour the after parties is always something that.

2299
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:35,839
Speaker 1: You experience and you just say, wow, I never thought

2300
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 1: this was possible, Like this is.

2301
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 3: It's like it's crazy, man.

2302
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I was younger, man, like, and I can't

2303
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,800
Speaker 1: imagine damn your shows because some of the shows that

2304
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:51,320
Speaker 1: we were doing was a little crazy. You just see

2305
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot of crazy stuff, like you just see I mean,

2306
02:03:55,200 --> 02:03:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I've said, I've seen you act

2307
02:03:57,800 --> 02:03:59,960
Speaker 1: so like that's the craziest thing that happened.

2308
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,240
Speaker 2: The same thing has happened to a lot a lot

2309
02:04:02,320 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 2: of artists.

2310
02:04:02,760 --> 02:04:03,440
Speaker 1: When you check in the.

2311
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:08,080
Speaker 3: Hotel and some girls or a girl is in your room.

2312
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Now back in the days, we'll be able

2313
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:13,600
Speaker 1: to be like, oh we if I'd have thought back then, I.

2314
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:17,240
Speaker 3: See the hotels, I do, but I'm young.

2315
02:04:17,440 --> 02:04:29,640
Speaker 14: I'm like, you get busy, your stalker is coming through you.

2316
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, that's the.

2317
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 1: Best thing about being a seasoned artist that have made

2318
02:04:46,480 --> 02:04:49,080
Speaker 1: it through all that. All that now now you can

2319
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:52,080
Speaker 1: see all the hiccups. You can see all the craziness

2320
02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:55,760
Speaker 1: that can happen later and you try to, you know,

2321
02:04:55,960 --> 02:04:59,240
Speaker 1: remove yourself from that situation. And so, like I said, like,

2322
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad wasn't like a lot of social media there

2323
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:06,360
Speaker 1: are in those times, because yeah, a lot of crazy

2324
02:05:06,440 --> 02:05:07,000
Speaker 1: things happen.

2325
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,600
Speaker 3: Let me ask you, what do you like more, being

2326
02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 3: married or being single? I'm not married. I know, I'm

2327
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 3: just saying, Oh, we all period, period, overall life being married,

2328
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:19,880
Speaker 3: being married. I heard you say that before, you said

2329
02:05:19,960 --> 02:05:22,280
Speaker 3: for a man. I thought there was a dope speech.

2330
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 3: You said for a man, you feel like a man

2331
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 3: should be married?

2332
02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2333
02:05:25,480 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I feel like it betters us, you know what

2334
02:05:29,000 --> 02:05:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean, because it.

2335
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:35,440
Speaker 3: Limits our ground. It kind of vides us.

2336
02:05:35,680 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: But I also feel like, you know, because of how

2337
02:05:40,000 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 1: the world is and where we are, you know, we're

2338
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:46,760
Speaker 1: taught a certain, certain certain way, and so I feel like, yeah, yeah,

2339
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I think marriage is the best thing for a guy,

2340
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:54,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because only bad things come

2341
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:56,640
Speaker 1: from you just doing a whole bunch of them. True,

2342
02:05:57,000 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, only only bad things

2343
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:01,320
Speaker 1: come come from that. And so.

2344
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 2: You know, I'm I'm I'm looking for that, you know

2345
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 2: what I mean.

2346
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: So in love absolutely absolutely, there's nothing like that, especially

2347
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,680
Speaker 1: we had the kids and every everything. You know, I

2348
02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:18,360
Speaker 1: was I was speaking to a young fella, and I

2349
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: was just like, man, when I came home finally, I mean,

2350
02:06:21,120 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 1: once the divorce and all that happened and I came

2351
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:26,840
Speaker 1: home and the house was empty, I was like, it's real.

2352
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:31,960
Speaker 3: It's like no towels do everything.

2353
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 1: Quiet, quiet, nothing happened, And I was like, I don't

2354
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:36,720
Speaker 1: like this.

2355
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:39,400
Speaker 3: No one to argue with this.

2356
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:41,640
Speaker 1: I like this. I mean you don't.

2357
02:06:41,760 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 2: You don't miss it until it's gone, you feel me?

2358
02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I think the best thing for

2359
02:06:46,320 --> 02:06:49,440
Speaker 1: a guy is to have that stability in a woman

2360
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: and kids, in a family and just you know, just

2361
02:06:53,720 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 1: be a family man. It's catching God, just catching up.

2362
02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 3: Your right now. I feel like you manage yourself. Absolutely.

2363
02:07:19,120 --> 02:07:23,440
Speaker 3: We need you to explain that to these artists. Yeah.

2364
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:28,240
Speaker 3: One that don't think they can do that. Yes. And

2365
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 3: two the reason why.

2366
02:07:31,640 --> 02:07:35,520
Speaker 1: As far as me managing and doing a lot of

2367
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:38,600
Speaker 1: the stuff that I do for me on a daily basis,

2368
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:42,120
Speaker 1: I think it's uh, it's a great thing for me

2369
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 1: because I've had so many well not so many two

2370
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:54,280
Speaker 1: situations in my life that with detriment to me prospering

2371
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: in this entertainment business and so like in the beginning,

2372
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 1: like I had like from ninety six to two thousand

2373
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:07,840
Speaker 1: and one accountant. Like one thing I want to say

2374
02:08:07,880 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: to a lot of the young young artists out there,

2375
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 1: pay attention to the accountants and you're lawyers, wear many hats.

2376
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,000
Speaker 3: Don't just say I'm on the.

2377
02:08:21,040 --> 02:08:24,200
Speaker 1: Road, I'm doing my thing, and Yo, the money's going

2378
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: to be there because the same way that you're working,

2379
02:08:28,840 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 1: and as hard as you're working, if you get the

2380
02:08:32,080 --> 02:08:36,440
Speaker 1: wrong person to manage that, they're working just as hard

2381
02:08:36,600 --> 02:08:40,600
Speaker 1: to think of how to steal your money, you know

2382
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. There's wolves out here, man, and so

2383
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 1: you tie on yeah and stand up, Hey, what's up?

2384
02:08:48,560 --> 02:08:52,040
Speaker 1: And that's actually their business how they make This happened

2385
02:08:52,080 --> 02:08:57,880
Speaker 1: to me twice. Accountants twice. The accountants wow. And so

2386
02:08:58,760 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 1: the third time, you know, in two thousand seven, when

2387
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:11,640
Speaker 1: the housing crisis hit tough time, bro, I was asset

2388
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 1: rich but money poor. I think I had forty eight

2389
02:09:16,440 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 1: thousand dollars in my account. I got rose voices, I

2390
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:24,840
Speaker 1: got Lamborghinis, I got homes, I got all that, but

2391
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 1: I only got forty eight thousand dollars. And so during

2392
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:34,839
Speaker 1: that time, it was more so about you know, the housing,

2393
02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 1: and I think Bernie made off and all that.

2394
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 3: Kind of stuff. A tough time and a lot of

2395
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 3: people were going through and so I went.

2396
02:09:40,560 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 1: To the FBI for this person, and it was basically

2397
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:50,320
Speaker 1: told me we had bigger fish to fry. So basically,

2398
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:55,720
Speaker 1: you on your own kid again for the second time. Right,

2399
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,880
Speaker 1: So from that point on, I just said I'm handling.

2400
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: I don't care how hard the homework is and the

2401
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:06,520
Speaker 1: work is, I'm going to handle it myself. And I

2402
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:10,080
Speaker 1: could not have done nothing better than to do that,

2403
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 1: man like. And so now I'm sitting good. I'm comfortable.

2404
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:15,959
Speaker 1: I ain't rich, rich, rich or whatever, but I'm very comfortable.

2405
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:19,840
Speaker 1: Don't need to sing no more. Have accountants, don't need no.

2406
02:10:20,200 --> 02:10:23,400
Speaker 3: I mean I have people who like no.

2407
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:27,680
Speaker 1: No. I have a place that we reconcile every every quarter. Okay,

2408
02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:30,640
Speaker 1: and this is what you made all that, and then

2409
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:33,760
Speaker 1: I just pay quarterly, you know, because that's what it's

2410
02:10:33,880 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 1: truly about, access to your access to.

2411
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:37,560
Speaker 3: The account period.

2412
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:41,360
Speaker 1: I'll just advise you. And that's what a lot of

2413
02:10:41,400 --> 02:10:43,920
Speaker 1: guys don't understand. A lot of artists, not just this

2414
02:10:44,080 --> 02:10:47,920
Speaker 1: kind of females, everybody. You got to take control of

2415
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,000
Speaker 1: your life because at the end of the day, no

2416
02:10:50,160 --> 02:10:52,960
Speaker 1: one will care about your life more than you. So

2417
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:55,680
Speaker 1: you got to take control of that. And so you know,

2418
02:10:55,880 --> 02:10:58,920
Speaker 1: that's that's what I did in two thousand and ten.

2419
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:01,680
Speaker 1: And so from that on, I don't have no manager,

2420
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:07,640
Speaker 1: don't want no manager. Don't have uh uh, you know,

2421
02:11:08,440 --> 02:11:11,880
Speaker 1: accountants that that have access to your money and all that.

2422
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:14,280
Speaker 3: I do everything in house.

2423
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 1: I hire a person that you know, handle certain situations,

2424
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:22,520
Speaker 1: but no one has access to the things that I

2425
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 1: you know, I got going I got going on. So yeah, man,

2426
02:11:26,880 --> 02:11:29,400
Speaker 1: but damn man if I if I knew what I

2427
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:34,760
Speaker 1: knew now, then man, I'd be in such a better position.

2428
02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:38,840
Speaker 3: But let's make some noise for but but but but

2429
02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 3: you being as busy as as as you be, like

2430
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 3: you said, I think you said you almost probably do

2431
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 3: twenty shows a month if you wanted to. Yeah, I'm

2432
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:48,720
Speaker 3: gone every weekend, not twenty.

2433
02:11:48,880 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 1: But I just think Friday said something, you negotiate all

2434
02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 1: those shows every yourself as yourself every show, every show.

2435
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at you every every show. Right, Yeah, it

2436
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 3: is ever an awkward conversation with the what I need.

2437
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:07,840
Speaker 3: That's what it said. That's very simple, very simple. That's

2438
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:11,960
Speaker 3: honestly because you know, you know, because the artist feel awkward.

2439
02:12:12,120 --> 02:12:13,880
Speaker 3: Artists just like I want to talk.

2440
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:17,560
Speaker 1: You talking about my money, you feel me like because

2441
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:19,720
Speaker 1: it's not a lot of stuff to do that. Like,

2442
02:12:20,160 --> 02:12:23,240
Speaker 1: my brother's right there, he'll tell you, like, listen, are

2443
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:26,920
Speaker 1: you free. Yeah, how much you need X amount? What

2444
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:29,879
Speaker 1: do you need on your route? At say any contract?

2445
02:12:30,400 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 1: That's what it is, right, it's not communicated. It's not

2446
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:37,280
Speaker 1: a lot to that now to manage that. It's specifics

2447
02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:40,040
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. And ballert because I

2448
02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:42,680
Speaker 1: believe it or not. A person can put certain things

2449
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:44,680
Speaker 1: in the contract and be like, oh, he said, but

2450
02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:47,400
Speaker 1: you just got to have a person that can just

2451
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:50,240
Speaker 1: read it, read it reader. And I actually sits. I

2452
02:12:50,400 --> 02:12:52,800
Speaker 1: sits through it a lot of them. If I don't,

2453
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 1: I passes it on to my road manage and we

2454
02:12:56,320 --> 02:12:59,120
Speaker 1: we we talk it out and yeah you have a

2455
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:02,200
Speaker 1: road manager. Yeah, yeah, because you need to shout out

2456
02:13:02,240 --> 02:13:03,960
Speaker 1: to take Terrence Williams.

2457
02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:06,760
Speaker 3: Damn, that's crazy.

2458
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: So many artists need to hear that I don't let

2459
02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:11,480
Speaker 1: nobody mess with my money, because at one.

2460
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 3: Point I haven't before, But at one point I had

2461
02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,040
Speaker 3: that with two situations the same way. Whereas you, I

2462
02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:20,920
Speaker 3: mention you, and I didn't. I didn't trust nobody, so

2463
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 3: I would but I would be frightened. I would tell

2464
02:13:22,800 --> 02:13:25,600
Speaker 3: I would not tell people it was negotiating deals. I

2465
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:29,000
Speaker 3: had a whole different email such and such, Yeah, yeah,

2466
02:13:29,160 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 3: such and such and they were negotiating with me. They

2467
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:39,640
Speaker 3: just didn't know it was me. Damn, I calmed down. Yeah,

2468
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 3: but I would to God, So I understand that totally.

2469
02:13:43,520 --> 02:13:45,640
Speaker 3: Is that something that like, I'd like to let them

2470
02:13:45,680 --> 02:13:49,680
Speaker 3: know it's me though, you let them know what's b Yeah.

2471
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking like when you get like

2472
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:55,680
Speaker 1: that twice? Man, Yeah, you don't know.

2473
02:13:55,880 --> 02:14:01,680
Speaker 3: No time for three ye no time? Did that?

2474
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:02,120
Speaker 11: Did that?

2475
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,840
Speaker 3: Did that make you better to a certain extent? Because absolutely,

2476
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 3: because you know what it is. We're giving the people

2477
02:14:10,360 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 3: jobs at the end of the day, with no direspect

2478
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:17,800
Speaker 3: to any manager out there or anybody that works behind

2479
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:20,840
Speaker 3: the scenes. But still it's still us. That's the artists. Yes,

2480
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:24,120
Speaker 3: we know that they helped make us, but we also

2481
02:14:24,200 --> 02:14:27,760
Speaker 3: were given the opportunity. We're given them the opportunity, and

2482
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:31,640
Speaker 3: I just feel like they should honor at it to

2483
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:35,240
Speaker 3: a fall. Yeah, it hurts both times I went through it.

2484
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:38,720
Speaker 2: Man, that that that truly hurts when it's someone that.

2485
02:14:41,560 --> 02:14:47,480
Speaker 1: How just just to put things in perspective, you as

2486
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:52,080
Speaker 1: a person, you just you're looking at a person to

2487
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:55,840
Speaker 1: guide you and and and and take care of you,

2488
02:14:56,280 --> 02:15:00,320
Speaker 1: like your mother or your father. Right, So when that

2489
02:15:00,640 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 1: person violates that trust. It's sustained on your heart, it's

2490
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:07,480
Speaker 1: sustained in your mind.

2491
02:15:07,600 --> 02:15:10,120
Speaker 3: And so it took twice two times for me to

2492
02:15:10,200 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 3: be like, I don't fuck you, you know what I mean?

2493
02:15:15,160 --> 02:15:19,000
Speaker 2: So that is it's it's messed up man.

2494
02:15:19,080 --> 02:15:22,600
Speaker 1: And so I just feel like, you know, when you

2495
02:15:22,720 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 1: take on a job like that, just have the best

2496
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:33,760
Speaker 1: in mind for your for your client, because when a

2497
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:38,640
Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand, even managers and people like that,

2498
02:15:40,200 --> 02:15:43,960
Speaker 1: as long as you make that one person successful, so

2499
02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:48,080
Speaker 1: many other people are going to come to you. Just

2500
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:52,960
Speaker 1: do right, just do right, just do right. And so

2501
02:15:53,680 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't don't understand that. It's like,

2502
02:15:56,440 --> 02:15:58,960
Speaker 1: it's just like that story about the goose with the

2503
02:15:59,040 --> 02:16:01,880
Speaker 1: golden egg. They get the fox keep that killed the

2504
02:16:02,520 --> 02:16:05,840
Speaker 1: killed the goose and thought it was at a billion eggs.

2505
02:16:06,240 --> 02:16:06,520
Speaker 3: Whatever.

2506
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:10,839
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you gotta enjoy and understand the process

2507
02:16:11,280 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 1: of making that situation of situation and building from that situation.

2508
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:19,080
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't understand that they're just in

2509
02:16:19,160 --> 02:16:20,040
Speaker 2: there for the quick money.

2510
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:20,800
Speaker 3: You shouldn't do that.

2511
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:26,120
Speaker 2: You enjoy the process, enjoy, enjoy always being around the

2512
02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:31,280
Speaker 2: element of you are being able to move forward.

2513
02:16:31,720 --> 02:16:33,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And that's why I've always

2514
02:16:33,240 --> 02:16:35,640
Speaker 1: said I don't have to be number one. I don't

2515
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:38,720
Speaker 1: have to be on a charice only. But am I?

2516
02:16:39,320 --> 02:16:42,560
Speaker 3: Am I in the room that person going, oh I

2517
02:16:42,680 --> 02:16:44,960
Speaker 3: remember pony, Oh I remember this?

2518
02:16:45,680 --> 02:16:45,800
Speaker 14: Yo?

2519
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:46,840
Speaker 1: Can you do this?

2520
02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:47,440
Speaker 12: Can you do this?

2521
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:51,800
Speaker 1: That's how you continue to go like this, That's how

2522
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:54,039
Speaker 1: you continue to build Bill Bill.

2523
02:16:54,080 --> 02:16:57,360
Speaker 3: The person that I'm too good to talk to anybody

2524
02:16:57,920 --> 02:17:00,800
Speaker 3: and now you yo, you need me, you need that.

2525
02:17:01,560 --> 02:17:05,320
Speaker 1: That's not that's not the person that's gonna prosper when

2526
02:17:05,440 --> 02:17:06,640
Speaker 1: he or she falls.

2527
02:17:07,080 --> 02:17:08,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna fall like this.

2528
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:17,560
Speaker 1: When the person that has made those connections, made those

2529
02:17:18,360 --> 02:17:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, friendships, they're.

2530
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 3: Gonna go like this mm hmmm, mm hmmm because of

2531
02:17:26,720 --> 02:17:29,880
Speaker 3: the people that are in the room right. You know

2532
02:17:29,959 --> 02:17:33,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So that's what you're supposed to do.

2533
02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:37,720
Speaker 1: You always maintain your humbleness, Always maintain and understand that

2534
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:41,760
Speaker 1: nothing lasts forever. Always know that you can be here

2535
02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:45,560
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, or you could be there right by people.

2536
02:17:45,720 --> 02:17:48,560
Speaker 3: You got to do right by people, bro, because they

2537
02:17:48,680 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 3: might be at one point in a different position. You

2538
02:17:55,000 --> 02:18:04,160
Speaker 3: got your shot ready, I'm here, let's go. Oh my God,

2539
02:18:05,959 --> 02:18:13,240
Speaker 3: that was so in those jeans. He wants to know

2540
02:18:13,320 --> 02:18:19,120
Speaker 3: what's in those to make sure this is right here?

2541
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:23,040
Speaker 3: How many times you get tagged on Instagram a day

2542
02:18:23,840 --> 02:18:29,040
Speaker 3: a million people just showing you in they jeans? Did

2543
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,200
Speaker 3: you make in them jeans while you had on a

2544
02:18:31,240 --> 02:18:37,880
Speaker 3: pair of jeans? I didn't make those scenes. Let me

2545
02:18:37,959 --> 02:18:39,720
Speaker 3: give you a story. Okay, let's go. Let me give

2546
02:18:39,720 --> 02:18:43,360
Speaker 3: you a I don't know what I said. Go ahead,

2547
02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:45,240
Speaker 3: you can said, nobody listen to us like I said,

2548
02:18:45,879 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 3: you said.

2549
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:49,800
Speaker 1: So. I did a song called hell Yeah mm hmm.

2550
02:18:50,520 --> 02:18:52,760
Speaker 1: Kelly wrote that song that's big up all Kelly Ye,

2551
02:18:52,879 --> 02:18:59,560
Speaker 1: all right, okay, now I'm com through, now come through.

2552
02:19:04,680 --> 02:19:07,000
Speaker 3: So that two stories.

2553
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:11,360
Speaker 1: So he wrote that song for me, right, and I

2554
02:19:11,520 --> 02:19:16,840
Speaker 1: was like that dope. And then he uh the south

2555
02:19:16,879 --> 02:19:19,760
Speaker 1: Fast something so shine. You know what I'm saying, He's

2556
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,040
Speaker 1: so mean, Why are you doing the damn thing? And

2557
02:19:22,240 --> 02:19:24,520
Speaker 1: he more room from me and those jeans, I said

2558
02:19:24,680 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 1: what he made his own version and those genes.

2559
02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take that. And I

2560
02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:35,920
Speaker 2: wrote a song about it.

2561
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:40,600
Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote that song from that song from

2562
02:19:40,680 --> 02:19:45,480
Speaker 1: that piece, right, And so when I wrote that song,

2563
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:50,840
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, Kelly didn't like it though, for

2564
02:19:50,959 --> 02:19:52,760
Speaker 1: real he like it.

2565
02:19:52,879 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 3: He like, but I wrote that.

2566
02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:59,280
Speaker 1: He called you and said, you, pretty boy, pretty niggas

2567
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:02,760
Speaker 1: try to do new y you let me tell you

2568
02:20:04,120 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 1: do that.

2569
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:13,480
Speaker 3: What he called the label that's a homi dady.

2570
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:17,760
Speaker 1: So you know he of course, you know, it was

2571
02:20:17,800 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 1: a little static in the in the beginning, but you know,

2572
02:20:20,440 --> 02:20:21,280
Speaker 1: the labels like no.

2573
02:20:21,440 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 3: This is hit, I don't I don't care what you're

2574
02:20:23,240 --> 02:20:25,320
Speaker 3: talking about, and so and so.

2575
02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:28,040
Speaker 1: So we can't came out with it. So you know,

2576
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 1: it shout out to a man. But yet one of

2577
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:35,560
Speaker 1: uh in those genes was one of those songs for me. Man,

2578
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:39,360
Speaker 1: I was just like, I was just being creative. I

2579
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:41,959
Speaker 1: was just being a creative dude, you know what I mean.

2580
02:20:42,080 --> 02:20:45,680
Speaker 1: And so again I was in Miami.

2581
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:46,320
Speaker 3: I think it was.

2582
02:20:47,959 --> 02:20:53,480
Speaker 2: Fat Joe uh Hi rule all of us was. You know,

2583
02:20:53,959 --> 02:20:57,600
Speaker 2: we were in the same uh uh yeah. Now we

2584
02:20:57,680 --> 02:21:01,000
Speaker 2: were in the same uh snity level nightclub.

2585
02:21:01,320 --> 02:21:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah he's doing I think, but yeah, it was.

2586
02:21:04,600 --> 02:21:04,840
Speaker 12: It was.

2587
02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:09,240
Speaker 2: It was great, man, it was great, great experience. You

2588
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 2: know jeans Man I said, listen, I'm just like.

2589
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 1: Uh, what was that line?

2590
02:21:16,520 --> 02:21:18,320
Speaker 2: Jac said, you made it a hot line. I made

2591
02:21:18,320 --> 02:21:19,160
Speaker 2: it a hot song.

2592
02:21:20,480 --> 02:21:21,640
Speaker 3: At that time. He was going out.

2593
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:23,880
Speaker 1: That's what I was a little bit, just a little bit.

2594
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:26,200
Speaker 1: He made me mad. He made me because he called

2595
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:28,320
Speaker 1: my label. He made me man. He made me man.

2596
02:21:29,400 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 1: He's like, why not here? They can't go out? And

2597
02:21:31,879 --> 02:21:35,240
Speaker 1: the label was like yes again, so it's so good.

2598
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:40,360
Speaker 1: Give you jewels, will give you your jewels.

2599
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:50,000
Speaker 3: I'm bouncing around, yeah, do it, do it? Two reasons.

2600
02:21:50,080 --> 02:21:53,160
Speaker 3: I cried, come on, man, I don't do half. I

2601
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:57,720
Speaker 3: do that sometimes. Okay. It was a great away about

2602
02:21:57,760 --> 02:22:00,840
Speaker 3: my father passed. Got you got. I don't listen to it.

2603
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:05,120
Speaker 3: So when I read, I was like what I was like.

2604
02:22:05,240 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 3: Of course I listened to it as.

2605
02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:06,760
Speaker 1: I made it.

2606
02:22:06,879 --> 02:22:09,879
Speaker 3: Of course, of course you have to listen back, of course,

2607
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:13,600
Speaker 3: But physically, like sometimes people will put like you know,

2608
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:17,040
Speaker 3: I'll jump in a car service somewhere and they're like,

2609
02:22:17,080 --> 02:22:19,600
Speaker 3: oh ship, and they'll put on a playlist and as

2610
02:22:19,640 --> 02:22:21,880
Speaker 3: soon as I come on, like a little bit special,

2611
02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:24,879
Speaker 3: can you push that? Push that? Because for me I didn't.

2612
02:22:24,920 --> 02:22:28,120
Speaker 3: I made the record to vent, but I ain't make

2613
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:30,160
Speaker 3: the record for me. I made the record for everyone else.

2614
02:22:30,320 --> 02:22:33,400
Speaker 3: Going through it was therapeutic, It was therapeutic. I made

2615
02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:35,120
Speaker 3: the record for everyone else that was going through it.

2616
02:22:35,560 --> 02:22:37,640
Speaker 3: When I heard you say that same story, I was like,

2617
02:22:38,120 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 3: I was like, we don't even like, we don't even know,

2618
02:22:43,240 --> 02:22:44,000
Speaker 3: and that's crazy.

2619
02:22:44,080 --> 02:22:49,560
Speaker 1: So have you listened to it? I mean I have,

2620
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe twice in on purpose or it was

2621
02:22:55,160 --> 02:23:00,520
Speaker 1: just probably playing. I've never I've never actually put it

2622
02:23:00,560 --> 02:23:02,560
Speaker 1: on and just listen to the whole thing. No, there's

2623
02:23:02,600 --> 02:23:06,080
Speaker 1: always been little pieces and all that kind of stuff.

2624
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:08,200
Speaker 3: So so now I've never done that.

2625
02:23:08,360 --> 02:23:10,320
Speaker 2: I've never done that because it's too emotional.

2626
02:23:10,720 --> 02:23:13,200
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people that haven't experienced the

2627
02:23:13,320 --> 02:23:17,160
Speaker 1: things that we've experienced in writing those type of songs,

2628
02:23:17,360 --> 02:23:21,520
Speaker 1: they won't understand. They won't understand that, you know what

2629
02:23:21,560 --> 02:23:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean. So if I actually listen to that, I

2630
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:25,959
Speaker 1: can't even function no more.

2631
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:29,120
Speaker 3: Like like you said, your engineer left out. Oh yeah, my.

2632
02:23:30,920 --> 02:23:37,880
Speaker 1: Engineer and Corey Rooney core he left out. He left

2633
02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:41,879
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, they needed engineers. It was easy op engineering.

2634
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:45,800
Speaker 3: I don't even remember, no easy LP. He produced it.

2635
02:23:45,920 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he produced people do so I don't think He's

2636
02:23:48,200 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 1: LP was dead. It was kept cos actually they left

2637
02:23:51,560 --> 02:24:00,280
Speaker 1: out left. Yeah, we had to take a moment. Eybody

2638
02:24:00,280 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 1: had to take a moment because they heard it in

2639
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:06,880
Speaker 1: my voice. I was cracking, I was crying and all that.

2640
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:08,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2641
02:24:08,640 --> 02:24:10,240
Speaker 2: It was therapeutic though, you know what I mean, I

2642
02:24:10,280 --> 02:24:11,039
Speaker 2: had to get that out.

2643
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:14,400
Speaker 1: That actually helped me because you continue to back to

2644
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:17,680
Speaker 1: back at father Daniel, well my mama, I mean my

2645
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:18,720
Speaker 1: father did my mama?

2646
02:24:18,800 --> 02:24:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, And we both of y'all

2647
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:23,879
Speaker 3: think that that record would help other people going. That's

2648
02:24:23,879 --> 02:24:26,680
Speaker 3: the only reason why I did it was like, you know,

2649
02:24:27,400 --> 02:24:29,160
Speaker 3: actually probably didn't do it for me. I did it

2650
02:24:29,240 --> 02:24:32,800
Speaker 3: for anybody else going through it. Well, in fact, I

2651
02:24:32,879 --> 02:24:35,000
Speaker 3: did it for me and and and the people.

2652
02:24:35,120 --> 02:24:36,920
Speaker 1: But I had to let it out, bro, like I

2653
02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:42,080
Speaker 1: was hurting, bro, because I could tell you don't address everything. Yeah, yeah,

2654
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm one of those guys. I keep everything to myself.

2655
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:49,880
Speaker 3: But that's why I also read that you went to

2656
02:24:49,959 --> 02:24:53,440
Speaker 3: therapy therapy help helping you go down, and I also.

2657
02:24:53,320 --> 02:24:57,720
Speaker 1: Read talk about depression, right, well yeah for that yeah, yeah, yeah,

2658
02:25:00,040 --> 02:25:02,440
Speaker 1: I still I still I still battle with that though,

2659
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:04,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, a lot of people. You know,

2660
02:25:04,920 --> 02:25:08,080
Speaker 1: what's funny is like you can have all this all

2661
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:10,520
Speaker 1: that you know what I mean. People don't know when

2662
02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:15,360
Speaker 1: you go home. Be like, like a lot of people

2663
02:25:15,480 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 1: don't know that, and so I battle with that on

2664
02:25:18,040 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 1: a constant basis, on a daily basis. So but you know,

2665
02:25:22,959 --> 02:25:25,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm I'm constantly moving

2666
02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:29,320
Speaker 1: forward and that's what's most important. Don't allow that to

2667
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:34,560
Speaker 1: dictate what your movements and what your prosperity will be.

2668
02:25:36,080 --> 02:25:40,840
Speaker 1: Fight for it, move forward, fight through it, love, keep going.

2669
02:25:41,080 --> 02:25:42,560
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because that's what it is.

2670
02:25:42,680 --> 02:25:44,480
Speaker 1: Life is a journey. Life is a fight.

2671
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:48,080
Speaker 2: You can't you know, I mean, it is what it is,

2672
02:25:48,320 --> 02:25:50,560
Speaker 2: you know, And you know what I've always.

2673
02:25:52,040 --> 02:25:56,280
Speaker 1: Find healing in to see things that other people are

2674
02:25:56,400 --> 02:25:59,240
Speaker 1: going through and I'm like, why are you complaining? I

2675
02:25:59,400 --> 02:26:07,000
Speaker 1: just posted something. It was a young guy giving uh

2676
02:26:09,400 --> 02:26:12,720
Speaker 1: someone in Africa like bread, and I was like, wow,

2677
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm worried about it. Doesn't mean that your feelings

2678
02:26:19,120 --> 02:26:22,960
Speaker 1: don't have any merit or yeah or anything like that.

2679
02:26:23,400 --> 02:26:25,160
Speaker 3: But understand that.

2680
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:29,360
Speaker 1: This way more than you are going through.

2681
02:26:30,120 --> 02:26:33,640
Speaker 3: And that's what I find strength in, you know what

2682
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

2683
02:26:34,640 --> 02:26:36,879
Speaker 2: So, So I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.

2684
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't sleep in you know, my faults or my

2685
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, all all the other stuff that comes with

2686
02:26:45,160 --> 02:26:47,039
Speaker 1: me being me and all that kind of stuff.

2687
02:26:47,120 --> 02:26:51,679
Speaker 2: I find strength to move forward in what others.

2688
02:26:52,760 --> 02:26:55,560
Speaker 1: Don't have, you know what I mean, because that's where

2689
02:26:55,600 --> 02:26:57,360
Speaker 1: your strength comes, you know what I mean?

2690
02:26:57,400 --> 02:27:02,119
Speaker 3: And so, uh, that's that's what builds me up. That's

2691
02:27:02,120 --> 02:27:04,080
Speaker 3: what makes me who I who I am, the man

2692
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:05,240
Speaker 3: that I am, you know what I mean?

2693
02:27:05,480 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 1: Because everything that I'd be like, oh, I can't, I can't,

2694
02:27:11,000 --> 02:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I can't do this and do that, And I'm like,

2695
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:13,440
Speaker 1: damn this.

2696
02:27:14,200 --> 02:27:17,440
Speaker 3: They are living on the street. You gotta mansine to

2697
02:27:17,520 --> 02:27:22,840
Speaker 3: go home to what? Shut up? Shut the funk up.

2698
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Work work, that's what you gotta do. You gotta work.

2699
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:31,800
Speaker 1: And I'm a worker dog. I posted something a few

2700
02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:35,520
Speaker 1: days ago. I was like, look, because this guy he

2701
02:27:35,600 --> 02:27:40,200
Speaker 1: was supposed to clean my fountain, and I know how

2702
02:27:40,240 --> 02:27:42,120
Speaker 1: to clean my foulon. I was like, you know what,

2703
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:45,240
Speaker 1: don't clean it. I'll clean it myself, you know what

2704
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean. So we gotta okay, we're looking to skipboard

2705
02:27:48,120 --> 02:27:50,119
Speaker 1: the fount. In fact, you got a foulon. I gotta

2706
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:52,840
Speaker 1: found a big found. Okay, you got a big, big

2707
02:27:52,959 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 1: sound because I don't think most of us.

2708
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:56,640
Speaker 3: Can relate to having about everybody's like what the is

2709
02:27:56,680 --> 02:27:57,080
Speaker 3: the fountain?

2710
02:27:57,200 --> 02:28:00,440
Speaker 1: So I'm like, clean yourself, just cleaning yourself. And so

2711
02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:02,840
Speaker 1: I did that and I found purpose. I found I

2712
02:28:02,920 --> 02:28:08,720
Speaker 1: felt like like like I found yeah, like so yeah,

2713
02:28:09,360 --> 02:28:10,360
Speaker 1: so that's so.

2714
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 3: That's what it was.

2715
02:28:11,360 --> 02:28:15,400
Speaker 1: Man. I'm always appreciative and I'm always thankful for any

2716
02:28:15,560 --> 02:28:17,280
Speaker 1: and everything that's been given to me.

2717
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:19,879
Speaker 3: And I'm going to just move forward, you.

2718
02:28:19,920 --> 02:28:20,280
Speaker 15: Know what I mean.

2719
02:28:20,680 --> 02:28:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't hate, dislike or nothing, nothing

2720
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:29,280
Speaker 1: like that. I just want to move forward. Oh that's

2721
02:28:29,320 --> 02:28:29,840
Speaker 1: that good ship.

2722
02:28:29,959 --> 02:28:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't. Yeah, you don't smoke weed?

2723
02:28:35,240 --> 02:28:35,400
Speaker 1: Nah?

2724
02:28:37,000 --> 02:28:37,320
Speaker 14: What not?

2725
02:28:37,440 --> 02:28:38,959
Speaker 3: What made you not want to say? Let me, let

2726
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:42,400
Speaker 3: me hit the let me hit they you ready for

2727
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,640
Speaker 3: the story? Don't tell me certain weed and they fucked

2728
02:28:45,680 --> 02:28:47,440
Speaker 3: you up one night and it never turned me back.

2729
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Don't say it five times? Six times?

2730
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's give This is one of the things that

2731
02:28:53,080 --> 02:28:55,880
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand, like certain things aren't

2732
02:28:55,959 --> 02:28:56,760
Speaker 1: for certain people.

2733
02:28:57,240 --> 02:28:59,040
Speaker 3: There you go, you finish my sentence. Feel me?

2734
02:28:59,760 --> 02:29:02,920
Speaker 1: So I used to throw up every well not used to.

2735
02:29:03,080 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 1: I still will throw up every time I smoke weed.

2736
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Anybody in here that smokes. We be like, we don't

2737
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:12,240
Speaker 1: make you throw up, Yes, it does. It makes me

2738
02:29:12,360 --> 02:29:12,720
Speaker 1: throw up.

2739
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:19,760
Speaker 3: You don't see anxiety, nah, nah, because.

2740
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:21,879
Speaker 1: When I smoke weed, I mean well, when I half

2741
02:29:21,959 --> 02:29:24,760
Speaker 1: smoked weed, I'll be like, yo, I'm comfortable, and then

2742
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:29,039
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, my stomach says, not so comfortable.

2743
02:29:30,200 --> 02:29:33,920
Speaker 3: It's coming up there. So you know it is what

2744
02:29:34,040 --> 02:29:34,600
Speaker 3: it is exactly.

2745
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Some certain things ain't for everybody.

2746
02:29:37,560 --> 02:29:40,680
Speaker 3: Now that, honey, we can do that all day.

2747
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:41,400
Speaker 1: We can.

2748
02:29:42,959 --> 02:29:49,320
Speaker 3: We can do that that, all that, all that. I

2749
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:50,920
Speaker 3: can't believe we do that.

2750
02:29:52,280 --> 02:29:53,320
Speaker 1: We do that all day.

2751
02:29:54,879 --> 02:29:56,760
Speaker 3: For a long time. Do that all day.

2752
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 2: Nothing else you never Yeah, of course all the albums

2753
02:30:02,440 --> 02:30:04,000
Speaker 2: you sold, I've done that.

2754
02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:07,520
Speaker 3: I've done that. I've done all of that. But no wine.

2755
02:30:07,600 --> 02:30:10,360
Speaker 3: I drank choice. You don't have to did a song

2756
02:30:10,520 --> 02:30:11,520
Speaker 3: like that, drink of choice?

2757
02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Mean to tell me you and like that might maybe

2758
02:30:19,360 --> 02:30:23,920
Speaker 2: I bring my own. That's a dry country.

2759
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:30,880
Speaker 3: Actually you're talking about the uh the hen deal, secure

2760
02:30:32,200 --> 02:30:33,320
Speaker 3: killing killing.

2761
02:30:34,720 --> 02:30:34,880
Speaker 6: You know.

2762
02:30:36,680 --> 02:30:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we tried to convince you to drink now.

2763
02:30:39,560 --> 02:30:40,560
Speaker 6: No, no, it's like.

2764
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:45,120
Speaker 3: You try to try.

2765
02:30:46,040 --> 02:30:52,119
Speaker 1: He was like all loves I like, but I'm sticking

2766
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:54,000
Speaker 1: with that mean, I mean you gotta.

2767
02:30:54,200 --> 02:30:55,800
Speaker 3: I mean you won't do a shot, just a shot

2768
02:30:56,480 --> 02:30:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a shot. That's what

2769
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:01,480
Speaker 3: I drink. I drink jelly on. Okay, you want to

2770
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:02,760
Speaker 3: take a shot? Shot?

2771
02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:04,800
Speaker 1: I want to do a shot? Which y'all drink?

2772
02:31:04,879 --> 02:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Okay, you can drink shot shot.

2773
02:31:08,520 --> 02:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Marijuana?

2774
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:12,879
Speaker 3: Well, my father, you ready for the show? Here?

2775
02:31:13,000 --> 02:31:14,040
Speaker 1: You know how with that?

2776
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:19,039
Speaker 3: You want me to tell you to I'm gonna tell

2777
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 3: you to listen.

2778
02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:24,119
Speaker 1: Listen, let me tell you to give me They make

2779
02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:25,119
Speaker 1: that in the bathtub.

2780
02:31:25,240 --> 02:31:27,240
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. In the bathtob.

2781
02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:34,960
Speaker 4: I'll smell it. It's got to sweet into it. No, no,

2782
02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:38,400
Speaker 4: it's like you want to you want to try my shot?

2783
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:41,160
Speaker 3: You want to try my No no, no, no, no,

2784
02:31:41,200 --> 02:31:44,360
Speaker 3: no no no yeah. Yeah, I'm drinking yo oil.

2785
02:31:44,640 --> 02:31:45,080
Speaker 1: Japanese.

2786
02:31:46,680 --> 02:31:52,400
Speaker 3: No fuck? No is the minic? No no no, no,

2787
02:31:53,200 --> 02:31:58,880
Speaker 3: tell bring this Japanese. Give me some hitty we do that? Okay?

2788
02:31:58,959 --> 02:32:00,560
Speaker 3: This is okay?

2789
02:32:00,879 --> 02:32:01,240
Speaker 1: What is it?

2790
02:32:01,440 --> 02:32:10,920
Speaker 3: This is the Japanese deli on that Japanese ship. When

2791
02:32:10,959 --> 02:32:13,080
Speaker 3: you out that Japanese.

2792
02:32:16,320 --> 02:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

2793
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:20,119
Speaker 3: Look how many shots do you want to see?

2794
02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:20,280
Speaker 11: You know?

2795
02:32:20,400 --> 02:32:21,200
Speaker 3: Look how many shots?

2796
02:32:21,280 --> 02:32:21,480
Speaker 1: Wow?

2797
02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:24,880
Speaker 3: Were having fun. We've been wanting you on this show

2798
02:32:24,920 --> 02:32:27,320
Speaker 3: for so long. Damn okay o great, that was the fast.

2799
02:32:27,520 --> 02:32:28,039
Speaker 6: Let me know.

2800
02:32:31,640 --> 02:32:34,279
Speaker 3: You want to want another shout any just on deck? Okay,

2801
02:32:34,879 --> 02:32:37,520
Speaker 3: don't have a shout I got it right to ye,

2802
02:32:37,840 --> 02:32:40,600
Speaker 3: just on that just because man, we've been wanting doing

2803
02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:43,840
Speaker 3: this show for so long. Yes, thank you, Yes at

2804
02:32:43,879 --> 02:32:44,279
Speaker 3: the beginning.

2805
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:47,440
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something, bro, I want to thank

2806
02:32:47,480 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 1: you man, like because when you when you started your podcast,

2807
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:53,680
Speaker 1: it was like everybody was just like trying to eat

2808
02:32:53,720 --> 02:32:56,520
Speaker 1: and this is this was like the pandemic and all that.

2809
02:32:56,760 --> 02:32:58,640
Speaker 1: Everybody was just trying to get people on. But I

2810
02:32:58,760 --> 02:33:00,600
Speaker 1: was like, he had a purpose, Yeah, had a purpose.

2811
02:33:00,760 --> 02:33:02,640
Speaker 1: You had a purpose. It's like I want to give

2812
02:33:02,680 --> 02:33:04,880
Speaker 1: your flowers and we're moving for a lot of the

2813
02:33:05,080 --> 02:33:07,760
Speaker 1: artists to spend that's been out and that's one of

2814
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:09,400
Speaker 1: the only reasons.

2815
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:09,760
Speaker 3: You got on there.

2816
02:33:09,879 --> 02:33:13,920
Speaker 1: I got a shout out, uh my singer Deldric for

2817
02:33:14,360 --> 02:33:18,880
Speaker 1: red Ricky Rush all that because they was like they've

2818
02:33:18,920 --> 02:33:22,080
Speaker 1: been talking about jobs. Shout out to them, you know,

2819
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:28,000
Speaker 1: and thank you for bigging bigging us up. But I

2820
02:33:28,080 --> 02:33:30,480
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, this is your day man, about you.

2821
02:33:32,920 --> 02:33:34,160
Speaker 1: It's a national holiday.

2822
02:33:34,800 --> 02:33:44,800
Speaker 3: Understand holiday, yeah man, Yeah, were waking up. I want

2823
02:33:44,879 --> 02:33:48,640
Speaker 3: to know. I wanted to well, yeah man, because.

2824
02:33:51,320 --> 02:33:54,280
Speaker 1: I tasting keep right there.

2825
02:33:54,280 --> 02:33:58,640
Speaker 3: I take I'm taking that right there. And you never

2826
02:33:58,760 --> 02:34:01,640
Speaker 3: did the verses. Yes, you never. No, I'm never gonna

2827
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:04,160
Speaker 3: do that. You're never gonna do that. Nobody can funk

2828
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:09,520
Speaker 3: with you. No, absolutely stop it. That's why you're not

2829
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:13,320
Speaker 3: doing Do you want to say he ain't doing the

2830
02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 3: bro Nobody come.

2831
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:19,760
Speaker 1: Up with you. I'm sorry, No, It's again one of

2832
02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:24,360
Speaker 1: those things where I'm I'm totally this, that's not my thing. Man.

2833
02:34:24,600 --> 02:34:30,440
Speaker 3: It's like I've heard Jay couple and I'm not on

2834
02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:35,080
Speaker 3: that level. But nobody can't stand on stage what they're

2835
02:34:35,160 --> 02:34:35,800
Speaker 3: talking about.

2836
02:34:36,160 --> 02:34:38,400
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't want to do that.

2837
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 3: Like I just know it's not standing. You started ship

2838
02:34:46,520 --> 02:34:48,440
Speaker 3: to me like you said no.

2839
02:34:50,920 --> 02:34:51,160
Speaker 1: With me.

2840
02:34:52,680 --> 02:34:52,960
Speaker 3: Listen.

2841
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just sound like to be I

2842
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:58,040
Speaker 1: don't like saying that. I'm want very end on that stage.

2843
02:34:58,200 --> 02:35:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm very entertained by by that. I just don't want

2844
02:35:02,120 --> 02:35:05,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of it. I don't even know why,

2845
02:35:05,680 --> 02:35:09,200
Speaker 1: Like I just don't like I want to celebration. I

2846
02:35:09,360 --> 02:35:12,440
Speaker 1: get it, but no, I'll be there but no, I'm not.

2847
02:35:13,720 --> 02:35:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to

2848
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:15,560
Speaker 1: do that.

2849
02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm not. Money doesn't make a difference, none of that.

2850
02:35:23,640 --> 02:35:31,640
Speaker 1: You can do it, you know that's supposed to supposed

2851
02:35:32,000 --> 02:35:32,920
Speaker 1: the money can't right.

2852
02:35:33,600 --> 02:35:41,880
Speaker 3: And they asked you management because to the two different people,

2853
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:49,240
Speaker 3: now the artist you are man, yes, said I'm artist, amazing.

2854
02:35:49,480 --> 02:35:52,240
Speaker 3: The manager said wait a minute. So look, so look

2855
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:55,760
Speaker 3: what happens if the right amount of money comes and

2856
02:35:55,840 --> 02:35:58,680
Speaker 3: they say to you will pick your opponent where y'all

2857
02:35:58,680 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 3: can celebrate each other's Like what what?

2858
02:36:01,800 --> 02:36:04,720
Speaker 1: Who would be that opponent that you will pick? It's

2859
02:36:06,360 --> 02:36:12,720
Speaker 1: now you're starting ship. Don't don't tell me you can't

2860
02:36:12,760 --> 02:36:15,039
Speaker 1: you can't come out, but you don't.

2861
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:16,880
Speaker 3: Tell me that. I really don't know.

2862
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:23,520
Speaker 1: That's just like uh, like you you you always sometimes

2863
02:36:23,680 --> 02:36:25,920
Speaker 1: like if you're interested in something that you just want

2864
02:36:25,959 --> 02:36:28,640
Speaker 1: to observe it and you see it, but you not

2865
02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 1: want to try to kind of be a part of it.

2866
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:34,240
Speaker 15: Like that's what that is like for me, Like I

2867
02:36:34,600 --> 02:36:38,480
Speaker 15: I like to see it. Yeah, I just don't know.

2868
02:36:38,760 --> 02:36:41,720
Speaker 15: I'm not trying to play the ball. Like that's what

2869
02:36:41,840 --> 02:36:43,160
Speaker 15: it is with me, you know what I mean?

2870
02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:48,280
Speaker 1: You know anything everything has its right because you're doing

2871
02:36:48,360 --> 02:36:52,600
Speaker 1: it just because it's something to do. But I don't

2872
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:55,000
Speaker 1: really I have no interest in that. Yeah, I mean,

2873
02:36:55,640 --> 02:36:58,120
Speaker 1: but I will observe it, I'll look, I'll say I'll

2874
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:01,720
Speaker 1: enjoy it and all that, but I don't really. Let's

2875
02:37:02,000 --> 02:37:04,080
Speaker 1: your catalog is so I know, I know, I know

2876
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:06,440
Speaker 1: that's what keep everybody keep saying, I just don't want

2877
02:37:06,480 --> 02:37:06,720
Speaker 1: to do it.

2878
02:37:07,280 --> 02:37:09,920
Speaker 3: Has Swiss and Timblin called you, I'm sure Timblin the

2879
02:37:10,760 --> 02:37:14,800
Speaker 3: Associations has called me. Yeah, no, no, and what they

2880
02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:17,400
Speaker 3: were saying who they wanted you against. I don't even

2881
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:25,119
Speaker 3: listen to it. She said that it's just real.

2882
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to do it.

2883
02:37:26,320 --> 02:37:26,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to do it.

2884
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've always been that kind of guy, like if

2885
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:31,880
Speaker 1: I've never been kind of got to get a car

2886
02:37:32,320 --> 02:37:36,640
Speaker 1: or close or something because everyone else has it. But

2887
02:37:36,840 --> 02:37:39,920
Speaker 1: I've always been a person that if I get it

2888
02:37:40,480 --> 02:37:45,000
Speaker 1: because I actually like it. Never been a follower, always

2889
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:49,240
Speaker 1: been a leader always. But the manager is also saying,

2890
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:56,000
Speaker 1: if the money is right, we'll formulated so the way

2891
02:37:56,080 --> 02:37:59,320
Speaker 1: that you need it to be. And that's that's why

2892
02:37:59,360 --> 02:38:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm a manager and are just to manage

2893
02:38:02,320 --> 02:38:04,439
Speaker 1: your part and your artist part, arguing.

2894
02:38:06,920 --> 02:38:16,520
Speaker 3: The situation because the man's like, lady right, so yeah,

2895
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:22,720
Speaker 3: trusted me.

2896
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:26,000
Speaker 1: It happens.

2897
02:38:26,080 --> 02:38:33,320
Speaker 3: It happens. Man, that's the funny ship. Man, what's the left?

2898
02:38:33,400 --> 02:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Man?

2899
02:38:33,640 --> 02:38:39,680
Speaker 3: You conquered there? Listen the reality show you was here,

2900
02:38:39,720 --> 02:38:42,760
Speaker 3: We go here. This is the first I knew on

2901
02:38:42,879 --> 02:38:47,039
Speaker 3: Big Brother, Big Brother you went overseas? Yeah, yeah, your.

2902
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:51,160
Speaker 2: Phone all that, they take everything, they take everything.

2903
02:38:51,320 --> 02:38:54,840
Speaker 1: What else you wrong with outside your own? I was like, no, that,

2904
02:38:55,000 --> 02:38:57,720
Speaker 1: well your phone is you with cyborgs? I told you that,

2905
02:38:57,959 --> 02:39:00,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you know that's an

2906
02:39:00,840 --> 02:39:04,440
Speaker 1: extension of us. So once you take the phone from us,

2907
02:39:04,760 --> 02:39:07,560
Speaker 1: you take the radio, and you take all the outside

2908
02:39:08,760 --> 02:39:12,600
Speaker 1: situations that's happening. Now you only have us. You remember

2909
02:39:12,760 --> 02:39:16,680
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, take all that stuff away, how

2910
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:17,120
Speaker 1: can we.

2911
02:39:18,400 --> 02:39:19,280
Speaker 3: Exist or whatever?

2912
02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:24,000
Speaker 1: You would be surprised now that we still have a

2913
02:39:24,040 --> 02:39:26,680
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that's in us to just exist.

2914
02:39:27,040 --> 02:39:30,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It happens, but we are

2915
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:32,600
Speaker 3: so dependent on this.

2916
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:37,600
Speaker 1: We're so dependent on this, and so we're losing you

2917
02:39:37,720 --> 02:39:40,800
Speaker 1: go through with draw, I'm sure, man, we're losing so

2918
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:46,160
Speaker 1: much depth in who we are as individuals. And just

2919
02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 1: humans period. We don't talk to each other, you know

2920
02:39:51,440 --> 02:39:53,800
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like when I take my kids out,

2921
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I tell them give me your phones. Give me your phones? Wow,

2922
02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:00,879
Speaker 1: put them right there.

2923
02:40:01,160 --> 02:40:01,640
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2924
02:40:02,680 --> 02:40:03,200
Speaker 1: Talk to me?

2925
02:40:03,840 --> 02:40:04,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2926
02:40:04,959 --> 02:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Because if you don't do that, man, how can you

2927
02:40:09,560 --> 02:40:12,360
Speaker 1: How can you know about someone? How can you know

2928
02:40:12,400 --> 02:40:14,760
Speaker 1: about your seed? I can you know about the person

2929
02:40:14,840 --> 02:40:20,400
Speaker 1: that you loved the most? So, yeah, man, when we

2930
02:40:20,480 --> 02:40:23,560
Speaker 1: were over there, I was like in a different world. Bro,

2931
02:40:23,920 --> 02:40:25,240
Speaker 1: did you feel like you was like one of the

2932
02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:27,920
Speaker 1: first people that tried that. They tried to cancel at first,

2933
02:40:28,320 --> 02:40:29,840
Speaker 1: because that was like yeah with the.

2934
02:40:31,560 --> 02:40:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I didn't.

2935
02:40:33,920 --> 02:40:36,080
Speaker 1: Know you tried to kiss you without your permission. I

2936
02:40:36,200 --> 02:40:38,400
Speaker 1: didn't know it until I got off of it because

2937
02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:41,200
Speaker 1: you ain't have your phone. Yeah, And so I look,

2938
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:43,200
Speaker 1: so it's live a film, it's live.

2939
02:40:43,400 --> 02:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Everything is like they got cameras everywhere, you.

2940
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,200
Speaker 3: Know what I mean by because don't they edit and

2941
02:40:48,280 --> 02:40:50,920
Speaker 3: then send it to the world of course? Okay, but

2942
02:40:51,320 --> 02:40:52,280
Speaker 3: you don't know what they're editing.

2943
02:40:52,440 --> 02:40:58,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that episode came out while I was still Yeah,

2944
02:40:58,120 --> 02:41:00,959
Speaker 1: so you had no idea there and I almost made

2945
02:41:00,959 --> 02:41:02,840
Speaker 1: it to the end, what happened? I don't know what

2946
02:41:02,879 --> 02:41:09,359
Speaker 1: you're talking about when transgender uh a person.

2947
02:41:10,760 --> 02:41:12,920
Speaker 3: Jokingly it was like give me a kiss, and I.

2948
02:41:13,000 --> 02:41:14,240
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, what are you doing?

2949
02:41:14,800 --> 02:41:17,600
Speaker 3: And it wasn't you know it was what it was.

2950
02:41:17,720 --> 02:41:20,119
Speaker 1: But I was just like I didn't know the effect

2951
02:41:20,200 --> 02:41:21,760
Speaker 1: that it would have on.

2952
02:41:21,879 --> 02:41:25,720
Speaker 2: Me, just saying all of a sudden anti, I was like,

2953
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 2: what the hell what are you talking about?

2954
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:31,039
Speaker 1: But one thing that I could always say that most

2955
02:41:31,120 --> 02:41:35,400
Speaker 1: people understood the situation and understood where where it was

2956
02:41:36,240 --> 02:41:40,039
Speaker 1: and it wasn't. It didn't didn't grant gain legs because

2957
02:41:40,080 --> 02:41:43,560
Speaker 1: they already knew it was what it was.

2958
02:41:43,680 --> 02:41:47,240
Speaker 3: So but I was just surprised. Once I got out,

2959
02:41:47,320 --> 02:41:51,879
Speaker 3: I was just like, what what happened? Because I was.

2960
02:41:51,920 --> 02:41:58,520
Speaker 1: Hearing I won't say no names, but big radio guys

2961
02:41:58,959 --> 02:42:01,600
Speaker 1: was like he shooting shoot them? He should have did this,

2962
02:42:01,840 --> 02:42:03,520
Speaker 1: he should have did it. And I was like, nah,

2963
02:42:03,520 --> 02:42:05,120
Speaker 1: I ain't with all that, you know what I mean?

2964
02:42:05,280 --> 02:42:10,920
Speaker 3: No, I did what whoa boom? I'm whatever, move move forward.

2965
02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:12,360
Speaker 3: It wasn't that serious for you in that moment you

2966
02:42:12,400 --> 02:42:14,080
Speaker 3: did what you did, because it is.

2967
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:17,760
Speaker 1: Never that serious with me. Bro, never like I'm like, boom,

2968
02:42:17,879 --> 02:42:19,720
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Move forward, you know what

2969
02:42:19,720 --> 02:42:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean? When you got the kids that I have

2970
02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:27,120
Speaker 1: in grandkids, you see things in a different life and

2971
02:42:27,240 --> 02:42:30,640
Speaker 1: so you put it in perspective. You don't act always

2972
02:42:30,920 --> 02:42:35,840
Speaker 1: on the things that you know constitute you acting. Sometimes

2973
02:42:35,920 --> 02:42:39,960
Speaker 1: as a younger individual, the way that I did it

2974
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:42,040
Speaker 1: then probably wouldn't have been the way that I did

2975
02:42:42,080 --> 02:42:44,560
Speaker 1: it in twenty five. At twenty five, you feel me,

2976
02:42:44,840 --> 02:42:48,199
Speaker 1: so you know, and that's what's most important. With age

2977
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:52,199
Speaker 1: comes wisdom, and so you grow, you learn, you move forward,

2978
02:42:53,000 --> 02:42:56,800
Speaker 1: and you set a precedent and an example for other

2979
02:42:56,879 --> 02:42:59,480
Speaker 1: people to build on. And then now they have something

2980
02:42:59,520 --> 02:43:03,520
Speaker 1: to look look at and just you know, do whatever

2981
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:04,640
Speaker 1: it is that they need to do.

2982
02:43:05,280 --> 02:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Moving forward, right, and everybody grows.

2983
02:43:07,440 --> 02:43:10,560
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's crazy about today that everything is filmed.

2984
02:43:10,600 --> 02:43:12,560
Speaker 1: Everything is everybody's filming themselves.

2985
02:43:13,000 --> 02:43:18,039
Speaker 3: Crazy. But I'm like, you can't grow from.

2986
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:21,120
Speaker 1: That because everybody keeps going back to that, yeah, problem

2987
02:43:21,200 --> 02:43:24,320
Speaker 1: of where we're at today. You know, as humans, we grow,

2988
02:43:24,480 --> 02:43:29,039
Speaker 1: you mature, you learn, you experience, and you change fact

2989
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:30,959
Speaker 1: and now they keep bringing people no, no.

2990
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:33,360
Speaker 3: You are this person when you was this age or

2991
02:43:33,400 --> 02:43:35,200
Speaker 3: this age or this age. That's not fair.

2992
02:43:35,400 --> 02:43:40,440
Speaker 1: That's so important, man, like, because you can't even look

2993
02:43:40,440 --> 02:43:42,480
Speaker 1: at a lot of the things that's going on sometimes

2994
02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:45,680
Speaker 1: in the basketball situation, boxing situation and all that. You know,

2995
02:43:45,800 --> 02:43:48,320
Speaker 1: I love boxing and all that, right, and then I

2996
02:43:48,400 --> 02:43:51,160
Speaker 1: look at, you know, certain individuals in boxing, and I'm like,

2997
02:43:51,680 --> 02:43:54,480
Speaker 1: you can't give a certain individual a certain amount of

2998
02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:57,000
Speaker 1: money and expect them to do what a fifty year

2999
02:43:57,080 --> 02:44:00,200
Speaker 1: old do. You got to understand what you deal with,

3000
02:44:00,560 --> 02:44:03,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yes, wrong, right, indifferent.

3001
02:44:04,400 --> 02:44:06,880
Speaker 1: You've got to understand what what it is. So you

3002
02:44:07,080 --> 02:44:08,959
Speaker 1: can't you can't.

3003
02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:11,920
Speaker 3: Just just just just beat that.

3004
02:44:12,040 --> 02:44:15,360
Speaker 1: Individual down and thinking that he's supposed to be that

3005
02:44:15,800 --> 02:44:18,560
Speaker 1: person or she's supposed to be that person when there's

3006
02:44:18,600 --> 02:44:20,680
Speaker 1: so much put in their lap at a young age

3007
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:23,280
Speaker 1: and an early early age. And it's not to give

3008
02:44:23,360 --> 02:44:28,800
Speaker 1: them him or her past, but understand what you're dealing with.

3009
02:44:29,240 --> 02:44:32,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's not fair, really, you know what I mean,

3010
02:44:32,160 --> 02:44:36,400
Speaker 1: It's truly not fair. So yeah, yeah, would you do

3011
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:39,640
Speaker 1: a big brother again? No? Nah?

3012
02:44:41,120 --> 02:44:41,920
Speaker 3: Because of that.

3013
02:44:42,160 --> 02:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Because of that lesson, I always felt like, man, once

3014
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:49,640
Speaker 1: you do something and you have success at it, and

3015
02:44:49,840 --> 02:44:53,080
Speaker 1: you've done it and and you've conquered, whatever.

3016
02:44:52,879 --> 02:44:56,039
Speaker 3: It is, you move forward behind you. How about theater?

3017
02:44:56,120 --> 02:44:59,640
Speaker 3: Would you again? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

3018
02:44:59,480 --> 02:45:01,680
Speaker 1: Because I thinking that experience. Yeah, I think I think that.

3019
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:05,560
Speaker 1: I think that shoppens you. I think that shoppens you

3020
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:09,920
Speaker 1: and it allows you to continue on your path to

3021
02:45:10,120 --> 02:45:13,080
Speaker 1: just be great and just to move forward in uh

3022
02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:16,680
Speaker 1: other situations. Man, I think I think theater is great

3023
02:45:16,760 --> 02:45:20,080
Speaker 1: because you have no chance to do it over when

3024
02:45:20,160 --> 02:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you do it there. That's what it is.

3025
02:45:22,560 --> 02:45:24,360
Speaker 3: If you get stuck caught up.

3026
02:45:24,320 --> 02:45:28,160
Speaker 1: Even you know, like anything that we do, we can

3027
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:32,120
Speaker 1: slice dice, but on theater, when there's a million people

3028
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:34,160
Speaker 1: on our people, you know, thousands of people out there

3029
02:45:34,160 --> 02:45:36,600
Speaker 1: and you're on the stage. You got to get through it.

3030
02:45:37,000 --> 02:45:40,720
Speaker 1: But that's what sharpens you. That's what shoppens Even if

3031
02:45:40,720 --> 02:45:42,800
Speaker 1: you make a mistake, you just you gotta keep going.

3032
02:45:42,920 --> 02:45:44,600
Speaker 1: It's not like that over.

3033
02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:47,200
Speaker 3: You can't you can't say, oh yo, bo, it's a

3034
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:49,560
Speaker 3: thousand people out there, what are you talking about. You

3035
02:45:49,720 --> 02:45:53,240
Speaker 3: got to keep they don't know you made a misw Okay,

3036
02:45:53,320 --> 02:45:54,960
Speaker 3: there you go.

3037
02:45:55,320 --> 02:45:57,760
Speaker 1: There you go. You gotta move, you gotta move, you

3038
02:45:57,800 --> 02:46:02,400
Speaker 1: gotta move forward, And that shoppens you. That as long

3039
02:46:02,480 --> 02:46:05,000
Speaker 1: as you have that in your mind that you cannot

3040
02:46:05,080 --> 02:46:07,440
Speaker 1: say cut, let's do it over.

3041
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that sharpens you. As long as you have

3042
02:46:13,360 --> 02:46:15,400
Speaker 3: that crutch to say cut.

3043
02:46:16,040 --> 02:46:18,960
Speaker 1: That ain't sharping in you, right, that ain't sharpening you.

3044
02:46:19,280 --> 02:46:22,039
Speaker 1: Like when you don't have that. You got to continue,

3045
02:46:22,080 --> 02:46:24,200
Speaker 1: You got to think on your feet, You got to

3046
02:46:24,680 --> 02:46:25,279
Speaker 1: move forward.

3047
02:46:25,520 --> 02:46:30,520
Speaker 3: That's what's sharpened. Sh Yeah, now that's what I touch

3048
02:46:30,520 --> 02:46:34,360
Speaker 3: on this lightly because like I said, you said, you

3049
02:46:34,400 --> 02:46:36,520
Speaker 3: said you've been in the game for twenty seven years. Yeah,

3050
02:46:36,680 --> 02:46:39,640
Speaker 3: I've been in twenty five, I believe. And I've seen

3051
02:46:39,680 --> 02:46:41,640
Speaker 3: you all over the world, and like I said, I

3052
02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:45,680
Speaker 3: have never seen you depressed personally. I've always seen you

3053
02:46:46,560 --> 02:46:49,760
Speaker 3: like happy. First, you always seen each other, gave each

3054
02:46:49,760 --> 02:46:54,160
Speaker 3: other love. And when I read that you dealt with depression,

3055
02:46:54,920 --> 02:46:58,119
Speaker 3: I didn't understand why. But then I read it deeper

3056
02:46:58,240 --> 02:47:02,480
Speaker 3: and it's about your parents and how it came back

3057
02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:05,840
Speaker 3: to back now. And then I also read that it

3058
02:47:05,959 --> 02:47:09,080
Speaker 3: was a past of that actually helped you with that.

3059
02:47:09,360 --> 02:47:11,279
Speaker 3: You want to talk about that process? Yeah, absolutely.

3060
02:47:11,840 --> 02:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I attended from the Heart Church ministries. I got saved

3061
02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:18,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, and so needless to say,

3062
02:47:18,440 --> 02:47:22,200
Speaker 1: like my dad committed suicide, shot himself in the had

3063
02:47:22,800 --> 02:47:25,920
Speaker 1: ninety nine, and then my mom died the next year

3064
02:47:26,120 --> 02:47:29,720
Speaker 1: two thousand, right, So needless to say, come on, man,

3065
02:47:29,920 --> 02:47:33,480
Speaker 1: like you're going to go through whatever it is, whatever

3066
02:47:33,520 --> 02:47:35,680
Speaker 1: it is that you're going to happen, whatever.

3067
02:47:35,640 --> 02:47:36,720
Speaker 3: You're going to go through that.

3068
02:47:37,000 --> 02:47:37,280
Speaker 11: And so.

3069
02:47:39,200 --> 02:47:42,879
Speaker 1: For me, again I always use the word therapeutic. Music

3070
02:47:43,000 --> 02:47:45,040
Speaker 1: was therapeutic, you know what I mean. And I was

3071
02:47:45,080 --> 02:47:49,840
Speaker 1: able to navigate my way through life through music and

3072
02:47:50,080 --> 02:47:53,640
Speaker 1: to just try to find my way. And you know,

3073
02:47:53,720 --> 02:47:57,240
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five, you know, my my then

3074
02:47:57,400 --> 02:48:00,560
Speaker 1: wife now ex wife, still great friends and all that.

3075
02:48:03,440 --> 02:48:05,400
Speaker 3: I used to do. They used to go to church

3076
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:09,280
Speaker 3: all the time. I used to like, they used to

3077
02:48:09,320 --> 02:48:09,879
Speaker 3: go to church.

3078
02:48:10,000 --> 02:48:12,600
Speaker 1: In my makeup for not going to church, I used

3079
02:48:12,600 --> 02:48:14,880
Speaker 1: to buy them flowers every Sunday when they go to church.

3080
02:48:15,200 --> 02:48:19,880
Speaker 3: So when they go to church, I go to this store.

3081
02:48:20,000 --> 02:48:22,280
Speaker 3: I'll by the flowers, my daughters and all them. And

3082
02:48:22,560 --> 02:48:24,720
Speaker 3: when they come back, I got them flowers and all that.

3083
02:48:25,360 --> 02:48:31,560
Speaker 2: But one day, one day, one day, I just say,

3084
02:48:32,600 --> 02:48:33,800
Speaker 2: what is church stuff about?

3085
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:34,840
Speaker 3: This is that therapy?

3086
02:48:34,920 --> 02:48:37,040
Speaker 1: At first, yeah, I was, I was doing what I do,

3087
02:48:37,240 --> 02:48:39,720
Speaker 1: and then I was like, okay, let me, let me,

3088
02:48:41,040 --> 02:48:43,959
Speaker 1: let me go through this. And so I kept going.

3089
02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:47,440
Speaker 1: And then the one thing about church, and you know

3090
02:48:47,720 --> 02:48:51,800
Speaker 1: the people that are in church, uh you know, uh

3091
02:48:53,440 --> 02:48:56,240
Speaker 1: pastors and all that kind of stuff. That day it

3092
02:48:56,320 --> 02:48:59,280
Speaker 1: makes you feel very happy. It makes you feel very

3093
02:49:00,120 --> 02:49:04,720
Speaker 1: He gives you a reset, gives you like, oh, man, okay,

3094
02:49:04,879 --> 02:49:07,000
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do that. And so

3095
02:49:07,160 --> 02:49:09,680
Speaker 1: there was just one Sunday that you know, I felt

3096
02:49:11,440 --> 02:49:18,440
Speaker 1: moved to go to the you know, the front and

3097
02:49:18,640 --> 02:49:21,720
Speaker 1: just get saved. And so from that point on, of

3098
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:23,920
Speaker 1: course I made friends and all that kind of stuff.

3099
02:49:24,080 --> 02:49:28,160
Speaker 1: And there was one guy, uh, a porter Losson, a

3100
02:49:28,280 --> 02:49:34,040
Speaker 1: minister Losson, and we became great, great friends. And he

3101
02:49:34,200 --> 02:49:36,080
Speaker 1: just talked talked me through it. He was a he

3102
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:38,880
Speaker 1: was an older cat, and he just talked me through it.

3103
02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:42,240
Speaker 1: And I, you know, I thank God for him, you

3104
02:49:42,280 --> 02:49:44,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because he's a good cat. He's

3105
02:49:44,879 --> 02:49:47,440
Speaker 1: still doing what he's doing right now, and he's the

3106
02:49:47,480 --> 02:49:53,600
Speaker 1: perfect example of what you know, upstanding, you know, man

3107
02:49:54,080 --> 02:49:56,640
Speaker 1: should should be, you know what I mean. And so

3108
02:49:57,600 --> 02:50:00,440
Speaker 1: I've never seen any fault in him, you know what

3109
02:50:00,480 --> 02:50:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean. So if you're going to fall, not no fault.

3110
02:50:02,840 --> 02:50:04,600
Speaker 1: If you're going to follow. I mean, you're going to

3111
02:50:04,680 --> 02:50:07,240
Speaker 1: follow somebody. You got to follow somebody that's been the

3112
02:50:07,360 --> 02:50:11,080
Speaker 1: example of what you're you're striving to be. And so

3113
02:50:12,280 --> 02:50:14,840
Speaker 1: when I saw him and what he continued to do,

3114
02:50:15,280 --> 02:50:18,119
Speaker 1: because I was always apprehensible about anybody, I'm.

3115
02:50:18,040 --> 02:50:21,879
Speaker 2: Like, all y'all money, you're lying and all.

3116
02:50:21,720 --> 02:50:23,279
Speaker 3: That, like politicians.

3117
02:50:23,720 --> 02:50:27,600
Speaker 2: So when I saw that, I was like, this is

3118
02:50:27,680 --> 02:50:30,160
Speaker 2: somebody I can at least listen to, you know what

3119
02:50:30,200 --> 02:50:30,440
Speaker 2: I mean.

3120
02:50:30,560 --> 02:50:35,200
Speaker 1: So you know, in my mind, he proved himself and

3121
02:50:35,280 --> 02:50:38,199
Speaker 1: so I continued to listen to him and I still

3122
02:50:38,280 --> 02:50:39,760
Speaker 1: talk to him to this day.

3123
02:50:39,920 --> 02:50:43,840
Speaker 3: You feel like he helped you out more to therapy, Yeah, absolutely,

3124
02:50:44,280 --> 02:50:46,200
Speaker 3: because trying to medicate you.

3125
02:50:47,560 --> 02:50:49,800
Speaker 1: Because when you're talking to somebody that's went through the

3126
02:50:49,879 --> 02:50:53,840
Speaker 1: same thing that you've went through, good point kill, all

3127
02:50:53,879 --> 02:50:56,920
Speaker 1: the kind of craziness and just all kinds of stuff

3128
02:50:56,959 --> 02:50:59,840
Speaker 1: that he's been through. Man, I ain't been through all

3129
02:51:00,080 --> 02:51:04,600
Speaker 1: the constant But if you can change, I know I

3130
02:51:04,680 --> 02:51:05,240
Speaker 1: can change.

3131
02:51:06,080 --> 02:51:10,280
Speaker 2: So that's what was was major for me. Man, That's

3132
02:51:10,320 --> 02:51:11,040
Speaker 2: what was major.

3133
02:51:11,600 --> 02:51:14,680
Speaker 3: You know. It was another thing that I noticed was

3134
02:51:15,280 --> 02:51:19,800
Speaker 3: you co signing your ex wife's new relationship. Absolutely, that's

3135
02:51:19,879 --> 02:51:27,280
Speaker 3: a grip, right, Professor griff Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3136
02:51:27,560 --> 02:51:29,280
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, as an

3137
02:51:29,360 --> 02:51:32,000
Speaker 1: example as a parent, period, as a as a man,

3138
02:51:32,360 --> 02:51:35,919
Speaker 1: if you have kids, you want to extend.

3139
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:38,920
Speaker 3: That to your kids. Why do we have to go

3140
02:51:39,000 --> 02:51:43,800
Speaker 3: to court? Why do we have to in the court.

3141
02:51:43,920 --> 02:51:56,760
Speaker 8: Look, as long as you're doing extra step kids, that's extra.

3142
02:51:58,440 --> 02:51:58,959
Speaker 3: Extra fun.

3143
02:51:59,840 --> 02:52:03,120
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying for us, Like it's a

3144
02:52:03,280 --> 02:52:04,240
Speaker 2: generational thing.

3145
02:52:04,600 --> 02:52:06,400
Speaker 1: Listen to me. Let me tell you something.

3146
02:52:07,120 --> 02:52:10,640
Speaker 3: How many like in my time, like we had.

3147
02:52:11,720 --> 02:52:15,000
Speaker 1: Family reunions, we had all that kind of stuff, the

3148
02:52:15,160 --> 02:52:18,800
Speaker 1: uncle and our uncles choke us up, we're doing bad

3149
02:52:18,879 --> 02:52:19,720
Speaker 1: in school and all.

3150
02:52:19,640 --> 02:52:20,240
Speaker 3: That kind of stuff.

3151
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:23,520
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff really doesn't happen no more, you

3152
02:52:23,600 --> 02:52:24,199
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

3153
02:52:24,840 --> 02:52:29,320
Speaker 1: So we have to as grown men, have to extend

3154
02:52:29,440 --> 02:52:32,960
Speaker 1: that same courtesy to our kids and say, listen, everything

3155
02:52:33,480 --> 02:52:37,039
Speaker 1: always isn't going to be you know, perferb for whatever

3156
02:52:37,560 --> 02:52:40,199
Speaker 1: you might get the voice, you might go through, whatever

3157
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:41,840
Speaker 1: you got to do, But this is how you do

3158
02:52:42,920 --> 02:52:44,680
Speaker 1: after that, that's how.

3159
02:52:45,360 --> 02:52:47,200
Speaker 3: This is how you make it right. This is the

3160
02:52:47,400 --> 02:52:52,080
Speaker 3: example that you set for your kids. That's what I do. Man,

3161
02:52:53,000 --> 02:52:57,200
Speaker 3: I'm not mad. I'm mad at myself. I fucked up.

3162
02:52:57,520 --> 02:52:58,080
Speaker 3: I cheated.

3163
02:52:58,160 --> 02:53:01,119
Speaker 1: I did what I wasn't supposed to do. You understand

3164
02:53:01,120 --> 02:53:04,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so so so at the end

3165
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:08,400
Speaker 1: of the day, it ain't my it ain't. It ain't.

3166
02:53:08,879 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm not.

3167
02:53:09,360 --> 02:53:13,240
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be mad at him for scooping up a

3168
02:53:13,360 --> 02:53:16,160
Speaker 3: good woman that you was too dumb to know that

3169
02:53:16,280 --> 02:53:24,560
Speaker 3: you had. That's my fault. Accept that, man, Accept.

3170
02:53:24,240 --> 02:53:24,720
Speaker 1: That, dude.

3171
02:53:25,160 --> 02:53:26,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Yo.

3172
02:53:26,160 --> 02:53:26,360
Speaker 6: Man.

3173
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:30,440
Speaker 3: It was one time I asked, I asked him to

3174
02:53:30,520 --> 02:53:32,360
Speaker 3: go on the boat. He was like, I ain't going

3175
02:53:32,440 --> 02:53:33,480
Speaker 3: to the boat with that, nigga.

3176
02:53:38,240 --> 02:53:57,040
Speaker 11: That You're not wrong for that. You're not wrong, That's what.

3177
02:53:58,120 --> 02:54:01,560
Speaker 11: That's a good thing about it. That's me, man, that's

3178
02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:04,840
Speaker 11: you know. I mean, I've always tried to extend that.

3179
02:54:06,480 --> 02:54:09,480
Speaker 3: Got to be in a boat. I love boats.

3180
02:54:10,040 --> 02:54:10,800
Speaker 1: I love boat.

3181
02:54:12,040 --> 02:54:13,800
Speaker 3: That sounds a little yeah.

3182
02:54:24,680 --> 02:54:28,480
Speaker 1: Besides that, is there anything you ever regret in your career?

3183
02:54:32,680 --> 02:54:38,640
Speaker 2: Never taking control of it from the beginning?

3184
02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:42,200
Speaker 3: That's it?

3185
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:46,560
Speaker 1: Like, meaning you wish you to manage yourself from the beginning. Absolutely,

3186
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:48,600
Speaker 1: How can you regret that you wouldn't know you were young?

3187
02:54:48,760 --> 02:54:49,199
Speaker 5: You early?

3188
02:54:49,360 --> 02:54:50,879
Speaker 3: Well, you said what I regret?

3189
02:54:51,959 --> 02:54:55,680
Speaker 2: What I regret like what I as where I am now, Like,

3190
02:54:55,879 --> 02:54:57,320
Speaker 2: damn if I knew then?

3191
02:54:57,640 --> 02:54:58,440
Speaker 3: What if you knew?

3192
02:54:58,720 --> 02:55:01,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I didn't know. Grit mostly is winning

3193
02:55:01,200 --> 02:55:03,160
Speaker 1: something that you could have actually done. But in that

3194
02:55:03,440 --> 02:55:06,199
Speaker 1: in that time period, you wouldn't have known any different.

3195
02:55:06,320 --> 02:55:09,440
Speaker 1: I agree with that, regretting you would have messed up.

3196
02:55:09,520 --> 02:55:11,800
Speaker 3: You were the messager that might have been manager your

3197
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:13,600
Speaker 3: own self as a manager back then.

3198
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:14,400
Speaker 1: Did you know you.

3199
02:55:15,879 --> 02:55:19,720
Speaker 3: Would have regretted be in your manager? Manipulate you right,

3200
02:55:19,959 --> 02:55:22,160
Speaker 3: you gotta learn to go through I keep you saying,

3201
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:24,040
Speaker 3: keep saying with age coming wisdom.

3202
02:55:25,440 --> 02:55:25,840
Speaker 1: I love that.

3203
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:29,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, you had to like you know, you know

3204
02:55:29,800 --> 02:55:33,519
Speaker 3: what I like? I go the bathroom of course, imbout

3205
02:55:33,560 --> 02:55:42,600
Speaker 3: to leave, Bothy all, I feel bad. I've had a

3206
02:55:42,640 --> 02:55:45,880
Speaker 3: twenty five year career. Favorite part of my career so

3207
02:55:46,040 --> 02:55:51,680
Speaker 3: I was being podcasting right now. It's me in nineteen

3208
02:55:51,720 --> 02:55:54,840
Speaker 3: ninety eight. What is your favorite part of your career?

3209
02:55:55,720 --> 02:55:58,320
Speaker 3: Like if it was one year, good Boys Down Too,

3210
02:56:00,400 --> 02:56:02,200
Speaker 3: or just whatever you want to say, I got you.

3211
02:56:04,480 --> 02:56:07,480
Speaker 1: I think it was probably the second album, second CD,

3212
02:56:07,760 --> 02:56:08,720
Speaker 1: because you know.

3213
02:56:11,720 --> 02:56:13,640
Speaker 2: They always think you can't do it twice.

3214
02:56:16,040 --> 02:56:20,160
Speaker 1: Right, So and I was scared, bro, I was very

3215
02:56:20,200 --> 02:56:22,360
Speaker 1: scared because when you're coming out with a song like

3216
02:56:22,480 --> 02:56:27,119
Speaker 1: Pony and I'll Do Anything, I'm Sorry, which was written

3217
02:56:27,200 --> 02:56:32,039
Speaker 1: by Missy and all that, that took me to a plateau.

3218
02:56:32,120 --> 02:56:33,760
Speaker 1: I was like two point five I think it was

3219
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:42,960
Speaker 1: sales or whatever. So that's a very very hard, uh

3220
02:56:43,680 --> 02:56:49,240
Speaker 1: situation to mimic again on the second time. So I

3221
02:56:49,440 --> 02:56:53,760
Speaker 1: was very happy when So Anxious came out. I was

3222
02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:57,920
Speaker 1: very happy because I was like, that's it right there,

3223
02:56:58,040 --> 02:57:02,520
Speaker 1: because I did what's so differenterent uh. That was the

3224
02:57:02,840 --> 02:57:06,680
Speaker 1: leading single off one hundred genuine and so the Sony

3225
02:57:06,760 --> 02:57:08,640
Speaker 1: and all them was trying to cross me over and

3226
02:57:08,760 --> 02:57:10,640
Speaker 1: all that, and I was like, I don't want to

3227
02:57:10,720 --> 02:57:11,440
Speaker 1: lose my base.

3228
02:57:11,680 --> 02:57:13,600
Speaker 3: I even knew that then, you know, when he was

3229
02:57:13,640 --> 02:57:14,240
Speaker 3: asking me like.

3230
02:57:15,400 --> 02:57:17,840
Speaker 1: Did you know this? And did you I've always I

3231
02:57:17,920 --> 02:57:20,680
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is, like, I always saw

3232
02:57:20,760 --> 02:57:23,000
Speaker 1: it and I was like, y'all gonna mess me up,

3233
02:57:23,240 --> 02:57:24,240
Speaker 1: y'all going to mess me up.

3234
02:57:24,879 --> 02:57:28,920
Speaker 3: And so when So Anxious came out, I was like,

3235
02:57:30,800 --> 02:57:33,120
Speaker 3: that's that was what my moment was.

3236
02:57:33,360 --> 02:57:36,600
Speaker 1: I was like even even over Pony actually, because you

3237
02:57:36,680 --> 02:57:37,960
Speaker 1: don't even know what that is.

3238
02:57:38,360 --> 02:57:39,720
Speaker 3: You're just living in the moment.

3239
02:57:40,480 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 1: But after you experienced all that stuff generated by the

3240
02:57:46,480 --> 02:57:52,720
Speaker 1: uh the success of those moments. You then know if

3241
02:57:52,760 --> 02:57:56,080
Speaker 1: you pay attention, he's like, Okay, now I gotta, I gotta,

3242
02:57:56,680 --> 02:57:58,520
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I do this again.

3243
02:57:59,040 --> 02:58:01,440
Speaker 3: So when uh So Anxious came out, that was one

3244
02:58:01,480 --> 02:58:03,800
Speaker 3: of those moments, right man.

3245
02:58:04,360 --> 02:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, this has been such a beautiful fuck man.

3246
02:58:08,840 --> 02:58:11,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. We've been waiting for this for

3247
02:58:11,200 --> 02:58:13,600
Speaker 1: six years. We've been stopping your ass. Stop.

3248
02:58:14,879 --> 02:58:15,760
Speaker 3: We've been talking about it.

3249
02:58:18,160 --> 02:58:21,720
Speaker 1: Because we really sincerely, you know, this is what our

3250
02:58:21,760 --> 02:58:22,400
Speaker 1: show is about.

3251
02:58:22,440 --> 02:58:25,760
Speaker 2: Our show is I can't stand God for y'all, bro.

3252
02:58:26,040 --> 02:58:28,400
Speaker 3: I can't stand when people like you know, there's no

3253
02:58:28,560 --> 02:58:31,040
Speaker 3: Gramre in music that has more than ten years and

3254
02:58:31,120 --> 02:58:33,800
Speaker 3: they have a word washed up for them. Oh they

3255
02:58:33,879 --> 02:58:37,320
Speaker 3: call them season like rolling stones. All these motherfuckers still

3256
02:58:37,360 --> 02:58:41,160
Speaker 3: touring for fifteen thousand years. It's some niggas that come

3257
02:58:41,200 --> 02:58:46,840
Speaker 3: out there and just die right and they still support

3258
02:58:46,879 --> 02:58:52,720
Speaker 3: their ass and they yo come on. So this is

3259
02:58:52,760 --> 02:58:58,200
Speaker 3: the reason why they come on and other Gramas and

3260
02:58:58,280 --> 02:59:00,760
Speaker 3: music and we ship on our own, you know what

3261
02:59:00,800 --> 02:59:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean? And I hate that.

3262
02:59:03,200 --> 02:59:06,120
Speaker 1: I hate that, you know, you know what? So I

3263
02:59:06,280 --> 02:59:07,200
Speaker 1: hate that, man, I.

3264
02:59:07,320 --> 02:59:10,800
Speaker 3: Really I hate that. I really love to see when

3265
02:59:10,840 --> 02:59:13,200
Speaker 3: I see you guys on tour, I love to see it.

3266
02:59:13,320 --> 02:59:16,200
Speaker 3: I really like. I just got recent a chance to

3267
02:59:16,240 --> 02:59:22,960
Speaker 3: see NAS clan in Paris. I got lightly offered to

3268
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:26,800
Speaker 3: get on stage, and I was just like, nah, I

3269
02:59:26,879 --> 02:59:29,760
Speaker 3: wanted to fan out and I did and I did.

3270
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:34,960
Speaker 3: I notice footage and I don't.

3271
02:59:35,280 --> 02:59:36,640
Speaker 1: I want to give it up to my people and

3272
02:59:36,720 --> 02:59:38,920
Speaker 1: I want my people to understand that. And I went

3273
02:59:39,040 --> 02:59:44,720
Speaker 1: backstage say then I went to the of course I

3274
02:59:44,800 --> 02:59:45,680
Speaker 1: was with NAS.

3275
02:59:46,879 --> 02:59:49,640
Speaker 3: Of course people from Queens from the same damn the

3276
02:59:49,800 --> 02:59:54,840
Speaker 3: same place. So but I just I just loved to

3277
02:59:55,800 --> 03:00:01,280
Speaker 3: see the support and I just want us to get

3278
03:00:01,640 --> 03:00:04,560
Speaker 3: you said it earlier, like I think that that's what

3279
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:08,119
Speaker 3: we have to do. Support please other like for real ladies, man,

3280
03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:11,840
Speaker 3: this is this is definitely one of the reasons because

3281
03:00:11,879 --> 03:00:14,160
Speaker 3: you're a legend. Man, thank you for I can thank you,

3282
03:00:14,280 --> 03:00:18,640
Speaker 3: brother King, and you're a good brother. And you know

3283
03:00:18,800 --> 03:00:22,120
Speaker 3: you aspire so many people. I try, I try, you

3284
03:00:22,240 --> 03:00:25,800
Speaker 3: do You aspire people constant basis. You make babies and

3285
03:00:25,879 --> 03:00:28,720
Speaker 3: you make other people make babies. You make So when

3286
03:00:28,760 --> 03:00:30,800
Speaker 3: you when you see Nick, can you ready hold on?

3287
03:00:30,879 --> 03:00:32,800
Speaker 3: Hold on? I'm gonna deal with you.

3288
03:00:33,720 --> 03:00:37,040
Speaker 1: You see everybody talking about how many now babies? Nick Cannon,

3289
03:00:37,600 --> 03:00:38,680
Speaker 1: what did you think about that?

3290
03:00:42,959 --> 03:00:43,920
Speaker 3: I told you not to do it.

3291
03:00:44,160 --> 03:00:45,199
Speaker 1: Oil yeah.

3292
03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:52,000
Speaker 3: And feeding toes no more, no more. But when you

3293
03:00:52,160 --> 03:00:55,280
Speaker 3: see that man you take his shot, you gotta take

3294
03:00:55,280 --> 03:00:59,280
Speaker 3: my shot. Okay, okay, all right, you just mixed that.

3295
03:00:59,400 --> 03:01:02,680
Speaker 3: That was yeah, you just mixed to that. Let's go, boy,

3296
03:01:02,720 --> 03:01:10,920
Speaker 3: let's the universe person that drinks to do that. My

3297
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:14,879
Speaker 3: brother gonna have to pick me up there right when

3298
03:01:14,920 --> 03:01:21,119
Speaker 3: you see like you know what all and then you're

3299
03:01:21,160 --> 03:01:24,480
Speaker 3: like nigga because because they said just now recently that

3300
03:01:24,680 --> 03:01:27,120
Speaker 3: he has ten and after ten he was having to

3301
03:01:27,160 --> 03:01:29,080
Speaker 3: pay child's a board. Did you know that that a

3302
03:01:29,120 --> 03:01:34,840
Speaker 3: real thing? That shi it is on the block? Wait

3303
03:01:35,080 --> 03:01:41,320
Speaker 3: saying that it's heavywhere who wait? You're telling me he

3304
03:01:41,480 --> 03:01:43,760
Speaker 3: made he made an investment and his child support.

3305
03:01:58,680 --> 03:01:59,120
Speaker 1: I can't hear.

3306
03:01:59,720 --> 03:02:02,920
Speaker 3: No, it's all over the blogs.

3307
03:02:03,680 --> 03:02:04,199
Speaker 12: You don't.

3308
03:02:10,240 --> 03:02:12,600
Speaker 3: Nobody goes by what he says. Now, No, it's on

3309
03:02:12,760 --> 03:02:14,400
Speaker 3: the blogs though it's not. It's not him, it's not

3310
03:02:14,480 --> 03:02:18,320
Speaker 3: Paul story. He said, I don't know about taxes, the boy,

3311
03:02:19,200 --> 03:02:19,880
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

3312
03:02:23,240 --> 03:02:25,440
Speaker 6: Nobody listened to this because I yes, No, I can't

3313
03:02:25,520 --> 03:02:27,920
Speaker 6: imagine number of kids where you.

3314
03:02:27,959 --> 03:02:29,119
Speaker 3: Don't have to pay for the kids.

3315
03:02:30,440 --> 03:02:33,480
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't imagine that neither. But the story

3316
03:02:33,600 --> 03:02:37,640
Speaker 1: has been reported. He has been reported, and you got nine. Right,

3317
03:02:38,600 --> 03:02:47,959
Speaker 1: You're like, well, now that you mentioned it that all

3318
03:02:48,040 --> 03:02:53,200
Speaker 1: my kids are girl see robertson there out here your

3319
03:02:53,480 --> 03:02:57,000
Speaker 1: kids there, Roberts and Narrow our here he got something pregnant?

3320
03:02:57,280 --> 03:03:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Robert Narrow got he got one

3321
03:03:01,360 --> 03:03:04,280
Speaker 3: on the way. Well I got I'm still in the trench. Yeah,

3322
03:03:04,959 --> 03:03:07,879
Speaker 3: he's seventy nine. What's funny is I actually want more?

3323
03:03:08,240 --> 03:03:11,280
Speaker 3: That's all I mean? You got nine right. You would

3324
03:03:11,360 --> 03:03:15,120
Speaker 3: be the one to say you want more, get two more? Dominican?

3325
03:03:15,320 --> 03:03:21,200
Speaker 3: You must be Dominican. All my Dominican friends advocate for

3326
03:03:21,360 --> 03:03:24,240
Speaker 3: Max big family.

3327
03:03:25,879 --> 03:03:29,840
Speaker 1: So let's let's just count in the music business people.

3328
03:03:29,640 --> 03:03:31,320
Speaker 3: Who got over off.

3329
03:03:33,320 --> 03:03:37,959
Speaker 1: Has that been pirds? How many DMX Yeah, old dirty bastard.

3330
03:03:38,160 --> 03:03:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah they can't Yeah, they can't get up there?

3331
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:46,360
Speaker 3: How many?

3332
03:03:48,920 --> 03:03:53,080
Speaker 1: Jesus I didn't know that because it was only feet.

3333
03:03:53,200 --> 03:03:56,800
Speaker 3: Well it's still you know, bigger the NBA, because you're

3334
03:03:56,800 --> 03:04:01,920
Speaker 3: in those numbers. No, I'm about six. You got I

3335
03:04:01,920 --> 03:04:05,360
Speaker 3: said about seven, you got the other, Yeah you got more?

3336
03:04:08,040 --> 03:04:19,480
Speaker 3: Yeah but yeah yeah yeah, been outside, man. I can't

3337
03:04:19,560 --> 03:04:22,560
Speaker 3: thank you enough for my brother. I really really, really

3338
03:04:23,280 --> 03:04:26,879
Speaker 3: really enjoyed this thing. Well I really hold on. Let's

3339
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:29,119
Speaker 3: ending with the shot. I got the shot. You want

3340
03:04:29,560 --> 03:04:33,480
Speaker 3: this right? No, I've been telling him to stop. Don't know.

3341
03:04:34,480 --> 03:04:36,640
Speaker 3: Everybody be trying to be nice to UFN like yeah,

3342
03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:44,480
Speaker 3: and then they hit it. But I really sincerely wanted

3343
03:04:44,480 --> 03:04:47,240
Speaker 3: to give you your flowers face to face man and man,

3344
03:04:47,320 --> 03:04:52,000
Speaker 3: what you have been done? Been doing? NBA got ten kids?

3345
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Jesus is how old is he? He can't be twenty

3346
03:04:57,200 --> 03:05:03,600
Speaker 1: one with ten kids? No, outside he got he's he

3347
03:05:03,720 --> 03:05:05,400
Speaker 1: got all y'all beat then if he.

3348
03:05:07,040 --> 03:05:12,160
Speaker 3: Is, man, this makes God bless.

3349
03:05:13,879 --> 03:05:14,080
Speaker 1: God.

3350
03:05:15,120 --> 03:05:20,120
Speaker 3: Outside went outside that like said, calling, I respect that,

3351
03:05:23,040 --> 03:05:25,000
Speaker 3: my bad. I don't know, I don't know. Listen, but

3352
03:05:25,200 --> 03:05:30,680
Speaker 3: listen listen my brother, yo, listen. You are truly a legend.

3353
03:05:30,920 --> 03:05:35,560
Speaker 3: Thank you, icon. You are truly what young artists need

3354
03:05:35,760 --> 03:05:41,680
Speaker 3: to see because young artists are making disposable music, and

3355
03:05:41,840 --> 03:05:45,160
Speaker 3: you have made lifetime music. You have made global music.

3356
03:05:45,560 --> 03:05:49,680
Speaker 3: You have made music that every single race, color, creed

3357
03:05:50,040 --> 03:05:53,200
Speaker 3: can relate to. And it's standing in the test of time,

3358
03:05:53,280 --> 03:05:56,520
Speaker 3: I can still there and like that's why, Like you know,

3359
03:05:56,600 --> 03:06:00,440
Speaker 3: I did Loving Hip Hop and I did Marriage boot Can,

3360
03:06:00,879 --> 03:06:03,320
Speaker 3: and I always wanted to tell people like sometimes I

3361
03:06:03,440 --> 03:06:05,920
Speaker 3: just wanted to explore. And it's like, I know, that's

3362
03:06:05,920 --> 03:06:09,160
Speaker 3: the same thing about you. Like you didn't do reality

3363
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:11,880
Speaker 3: show theater because you needed it. You did it because

3364
03:06:11,879 --> 03:06:15,200
Speaker 3: she was exercising, and I relate to that. But I

3365
03:06:15,320 --> 03:06:18,880
Speaker 3: relate to that from you because I knew you ain't

3366
03:06:18,920 --> 03:06:21,840
Speaker 3: need it. And I said, when you did it, I said.

3367
03:06:21,959 --> 03:06:24,120
Speaker 1: Let me, I like Loving hipp fuck with this ship,

3368
03:06:24,560 --> 03:06:25,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, I did it.

3369
03:06:25,560 --> 03:06:28,160
Speaker 3: I did one season. I'm a baut of there. I'm

3370
03:06:28,200 --> 03:06:29,720
Speaker 3: not going maybe I'm not coming.

3371
03:06:29,560 --> 03:06:32,280
Speaker 1: Back, so you know what I mean. But I love

3372
03:06:32,320 --> 03:06:36,160
Speaker 1: love it, but I love love but I just know what.

3373
03:06:36,320 --> 03:06:37,040
Speaker 1: I love marriage.

3374
03:06:37,959 --> 03:06:40,080
Speaker 3: I love Marriage Can, but I probably won't do it again.

3375
03:06:40,320 --> 03:06:43,320
Speaker 3: But it's okay because you got to have that experience,

3376
03:06:43,959 --> 03:06:47,840
Speaker 3: and I love that about you. I kind of follows you.

3377
03:06:49,200 --> 03:06:51,480
Speaker 3: And what I'm trying to tell you is you deserve

3378
03:06:51,560 --> 03:06:54,400
Speaker 3: these flowers. Thank you. You deserve everything you do. Yeah,

3379
03:06:55,120 --> 03:06:57,480
Speaker 3: anytime you want to come back, if you want to,

3380
03:06:57,800 --> 03:07:00,199
Speaker 3: if you want to promote your new s Carol.

3381
03:07:00,320 --> 03:07:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely all day, anything, you anything, come here.

3382
03:07:05,240 --> 03:07:08,320
Speaker 3: You want to promote your Beijing line, we in, we in.

3383
03:07:09,120 --> 03:07:20,080
Speaker 9: We don't want you want company, tell you want. This

3384
03:07:20,440 --> 03:07:21,360
Speaker 9: is your house.

3385
03:07:21,440 --> 03:07:23,680
Speaker 3: Okay, you need to know that, and then we're gonna

3386
03:07:23,680 --> 03:07:25,640
Speaker 3: come to your podcast. We heard you got to pocket

3387
03:07:25,720 --> 03:07:27,680
Speaker 3: before we get about it. You want to about your podcast,

3388
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:33,240
Speaker 3: We heard you gotta We're thinking about it. I'm not disciplined,

3389
03:07:33,320 --> 03:07:37,400
Speaker 3: like okay, you know, all right? Cool? Just in case

3390
03:07:37,440 --> 03:07:38,199
Speaker 3: if you need us.

3391
03:07:38,520 --> 03:07:39,520
Speaker 1: We will be there for you.

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Speaker 6: r E and d j e f N from Interval

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03:07:57,160 --> 03:08:01,000
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03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:02,800
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