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Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're talking about Ghosts of Yota from

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Speaker 1: the Latest State of Play and lots more. Hello, my

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Speaker 1: name is Jason mctepsion and I'm Joel Monique and welcome

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Speaker 1: back to text our vision of podcast where we dive deep.

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Speaker 1: It's your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. Coming

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Speaker 1: Plus it's Saturday, so it's nuts can be all.

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Speaker 3: In today's previously on episode, we're catching up on the

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Speaker 3: biggest geek news of the week, including d Rex He's

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Speaker 3: wrecking the d box office. Okay, it's crazy. People love

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Speaker 3: Plus some stuff about Dune three.

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Speaker 1: First, let's talk about the Jurassic World Rebirth box office numbers.

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Speaker 1: Fo Jurassic World Rebirth box office numbers great, the are

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty million currently that's globally since its debut

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Speaker 1: last week. This surpasses what two thousand and one is.

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Speaker 1: Jurassic Park three made at the box office three hundred

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Speaker 1: But Joelle, what do we think is gonna happen now

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Speaker 3: Listen, I do think we're gonna see a fall off

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Speaker 3: I think Drastic Park was an easy movie to take

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Speaker 3: a high two weeks. I'm sure it'll trade off slowly.

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Speaker 3: I would like to see. I'm curiously how long this

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Speaker 3: I would like to see it have a long time

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Speaker 3: there's like Naked Gun and then yes, the children that

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I imagine this will cross the five hundred

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Speaker 1: I think it could get there, but I also doubt

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Speaker 1: it up next Superman. Speaking of Superman, Matt Maloney of

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Speaker 1: Puck and the Town podcast has reported on the pay

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Speaker 1: and headline. Nicholas Holt gets more than Superman and Lois

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Speaker 1: is leaning on lesser known talent with some big names

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Speaker 3: Not even a little bit, not even.

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Speaker 1: But if this movie performs up to the benchmarks that

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Speaker 3: On controversial opinion, I think this is the right decision

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Speaker 1: for both him and Rachel Up. Next interesting tidbit Sinners costumes.

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Speaker 1: Costumes from the movie Sinners included stuff that was repurposed

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Speaker 3: You have one job, and it is to figure out Blade.

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Speaker 1: The long awaited sequel to Ghost of Yeshima has just

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Speaker 1: And then finally Dune three.

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Speaker 1: talk about any Villeneuve's final movie in the trilogy. Dune

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Speaker 4: and there have been rumors pure speculation. I don't think

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Speaker 4: they don't want to call it Dune Messiah and tie

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Speaker 4: I trust Villa Love, and I think we're in good hands.

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Speaker 3: I think we should trust Villa. Note two, he seems

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Speaker 3: They were like, oh, it's it's too early.

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Speaker 4: There are some changes with Alia. It's not necessarily there

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Speaker 4: is a time difference. It's actually condensed rather than a

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Speaker 4: and I think like as Dune fans, we will have

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Speaker 4: first two movies were not Duned by Frank Krbert translated

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Speaker 1: As a fellow dunehead, Aboo, put your Warner Brothers executive

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

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Speaker 1: They what do you think they would say about any

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Speaker 4: I think they're definitely again, this not based on anything,

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Speaker 4: the book that it's based off of turns that hero

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to talk around spoilers a little bit here,

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Speaker 3: Day the teen share characters so much at the end,

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Speaker 3: that's I would say, it's like we guys in Diet,

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Speaker 1: I would I think that's probably all right. I to

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Speaker 1: That said, I do think that this is going to

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Speaker 1: be his biggest challenge yet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm interested to see how it. Landing the

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Speaker 3: plane is the hardest part. You're getting that third movie here.

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Speaker 4: Is this is a very Yeah, there are a lot

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