1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: It's the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network, West Wheeler 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 3: and Matt Williamson with you here for the next two 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: hours on this Thursday. And Matt, it finally happened today. 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: It's been a weird build up to the Super Bowl. Yeah, 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: not for anything because that game specifics, but just because 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: of how much change and how much we've been Steelerlan 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: monitoring this time. 11 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Of year has been. 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 3: These couple weeks have been way busier, way more going 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: on than there typically is in Steeler Land. Yeah, usually 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: this time of year there's a couple changes to the 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: coaching staff or things like this got to be back, 16 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 3: you know, right right, and reports of people getting interviews 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 3: elsehere where and that kind of thing. But obviously this 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: has been ramped up to another extreme in the first 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 3: year of Mike McCarthy as he puts his inaugural staff 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: together here in Pittsburgh. But it finally happened today. I was, 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: you know, doing some show prep stuff and flipping through 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: ESPN and NFL Network and all that, and everyone's live 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: from Santa Clara San Francisco and Radio Row and all 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: this stuff. 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: And it finally hit me today. 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: I'm like, May, we got the super Bowl this weekend, 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 3: Like it's super Bowl weekend. It's basically here, it's Thursday. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like I'm slow to the event too, 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: Like I'm wondering who's on the injury report? Is everybody playing? 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's two weeks so you don't think 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 4: about that stuff and it's not like there's a quarterback 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: that's banged up. But I used to kind of pay 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 4: attention to like Radio Row and all the nonsense that 34 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 4: goes on, and I don't care as much anymore. But 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: today too, like you know how, I listen to so 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: many podcasts and stuff too, Like I've been watching I've 37 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: been listening to like Senior Bowl recaps or yes, you know, 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: different bigger, bigger picture coaching people are coaching hi conversations, 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 4: And I'm like, maybe I should started listening to like 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 4: matchup stuff for the game, or yes, man, what do 41 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 4: I think is gonna happen in this game? Like boy, 42 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: those two pretty good d lines, how think you gonna 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 4: block those guys? Or you know, it should be a 44 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: good game. 45 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 3: It absolutely should a lot of fun storylines. Of course, 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: a rematch for about ten years later between these two franchises. 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: We also found out uh Camp quickly. 48 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 4: What's interesting I mentioned podcasts. The podcast I'm listening to 49 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 4: right now is the one that Robert Mays does with 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: The Athletic and they're talking about how much the league 51 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 4: has changed from the first time these teams played in 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: the Super Bowl till now. I mean they maybe they 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: do a lot of stats and trends and it's pretty interesting, you. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: Know, Like I mean you mentioned alone the cover that 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks Cover three that took the league by storm 56 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: a decade. 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: Ago exactly, and even a couple of things that stand out. 58 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: I didn't plan on having this conversation, but the average 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: age of quarterbacks was way higher than it was, like 60 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 4: Ben and Ryan and River. Yeah, you know now it's 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: like five years younger average starting quarterback age including Rogers 62 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 4: at forty two. I mean, I think like Brady and 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 4: Manning and all, I mean it was, and they're way 64 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 4: more mobile. There's a lot more quarterback running. I mean, 65 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: there's there's some interesting stuff. Oh how fast it changes. 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: The NFL changes rapidly, man, I mean every sport does, right, 67 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: but I think football since there's so much schematically into it. 68 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: There's so much it's one play and then a stop, 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: and then one play and then a stop. 70 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: Like the coaching and the schematics that go into it 72 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: are on another level of any of the other major 73 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: sports in this country. 74 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: And the coach hires influence at a time like now, 75 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: then everyone was stealing from Belichick's tree. Now ione's stealing 76 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: from mcveigh's tree, which is a lot different tree, you know. 77 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: And that's another trend is the coaches are like, on 78 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: average ten years younger than then. There's a bunch of 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 4: old curmudgety O line looking coaches, you know what I mean, 80 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Like not analytically driven at all. It's like ten years ago. Yeah, 81 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 4: it's crazy though. 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: It really changes so rapidly, man, it really does. 83 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: Did you see Cam Hayward is going to be part 84 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: of the the Super Bowl broadcasting. 85 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Now Cam Hayward will see. 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: This is bad news on the NB. I don't want 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 4: him with with recording stuff because he'll be good at 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: it and he might not come back to play. 89 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: Then he might do the Bill Cowerd thing where everyone 90 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 3: thought this was just temporary, but he was like. 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: The media and like, I'm sure that'll be his future. 92 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 4: I'm sorry to interrupt you there, but like I know, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: I'm getting too comfortable with the money. 94 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 3: Test it out, Test it out this year, and then 95 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: next year you can you can fully dive into it. 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: But NBC announced last night they have added Cam Hayward, 97 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 3: Aaron Donald might have heard of that guy before, Kyle 98 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: Shanahan and Fred Warner as pregame analysts for the Super 99 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 3: Bowl broadcast. So we'll see Cam on TV in some 100 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: capacity in the pregame. 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 4: H that's real cool. 102 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: So plenty, uh as we roll along here today, I 103 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: want to get into some super Bowl conversation with you 104 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: both real x's and O stuff and then just some 105 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 3: of the fun food party and stuff like that that 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: we always kick around too. But Matt continuing with the 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 3: news of the day here to really set us off 108 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: on this Thursday. Last night, the Steelers made a handful 109 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: of more additions to their coaching staff official I think 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: biggest amongst them naming Brian Angelico, who we discussed on 111 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 3: yesterday's show, as offensive coordinator that's now official, as well 112 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: as Danny Crossman as special teams coordinator. We've discussed him before, 113 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: Joe Witt Junior as assistant head coach and secondary coach. 114 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: And then a familiar name, a familiar foe, former Cincinnati 115 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: Bengal Demata Pico as defensive line coach and pat Riley, 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: No not the LA Lakers heat pat Riley, pat Riley 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: as defensive quality control coach. 118 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: So I didn't hear that one. 119 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 3: Five new official announcements by the Steelers last night, but 120 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 3: of course Matt Chief most amongst them offensive coordinator now 121 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: official Brian Julico. 122 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: And we did touch on him. I mean, he comes 123 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 4: from a great offensive organization. Offensive mind. It's like plucking 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: somebody from McVeigh or Shanahan. To me, it's at that level, 125 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: and by all accounts, he was very, very important in 126 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 4: that process. Is like the number two dude, the right 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: hand man type of deal. This gonna sound negative, and 128 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 4: I don't mean it that way, but the Steelers have 129 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: a pretty crazy lineage going back to coach Mitchell as 130 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: d line coaches. Yeah, and Pico's just young, you know, 131 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's good. I assume they think 132 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 4: he's good at coach. I'm not saying he's a bad coach. 133 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 4: But that's a hard position to coach, and people I 134 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 4: trust have equated it to being like a lion tamer 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: because you get a lot of big personalities with some 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: obscene talents, you know, all across the defensive front. Just 137 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: apex predator, apex predators. And I always joke like, boy, 138 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 4: that's like, you know, trying to block a cheetah, then 139 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: you got to block a rhino, Then you got to 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 4: block a gorilla, you know, I mean, like there's so 141 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 4: many varieties of yeah, velociraptors. So that's a tougher job 142 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: and a more important job than you think. They must 143 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: have extreme faith in faith in Peico. But he has 144 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: not coached long and there's not much of a resume. 145 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 4: Just young in the coaching world. 146 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 3: This is this This upcoming season will be just his 147 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: third year coaching. Yeah, so I think it says something 148 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: to how quickly he's ascended. 149 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 4: And maybe he's just a that he's young, Sheldon, you know, 150 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, he could be. 151 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: He two years ago twenty twenty four, was with the 152 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys as a defensive assistant one year, and then 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: last year he was the defensive line coach of Colorado, 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: the Buffs, Deon Sanders and those guys, and then now 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: Steelers defensive line coach. So you're right, I mean, it's 156 00:07:54,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: been a very rapid assent for him in these coaching ranks. 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 4: It also makes me wonder are they going to add 158 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: an old gent in that room too, you know, as 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: the assistant or something along those lines. A name he 160 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 4: didn't mention. I think his last name is Howe, but 161 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: he's been rumored to be the outside linebacker edge coach. 162 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: And he comes from Montana, Montana State, Yes, Seawan Howe, 163 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 4: and really the edge guys are similar, and he's also 164 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 4: similar in that he doesn't have a lot of experience. 165 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 4: So like your whole if that ends up being true, 166 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: your whole, entire defensive front is being coached by guys 167 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 4: probably Cam Hayward's age or younger, don't really have experience. 168 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: And remember, I mean Mike McCarthy talked about this. 169 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, you need the guys that have been in the 170 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: league coaching for twenty thirty years. You need the young 171 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: guys that are cutting their teeth and grinding it out 172 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: and hungry to prove them so much. 173 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 4: I'm all for I wind a variety absolutely, Yeah. 174 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: The It is interesting though, because when you look at 175 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: it to so many of that collective that we just referenced, 176 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 3: our veteran guys like Cam Hayward, TJ. Watt, Alex high Smith. Sure, 177 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: those guys don't need an expert coach to continue their 178 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 3: development and their success, but Bent and Harmon and harm 179 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: and even Herbig to an extent, Jack Sawyer and guys 180 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: that we know that they're going to add to that absolutely, 181 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: So I'm with you, that's a very interesting one. 182 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: This is something to keep an eye on. It's a 183 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: they have a senior assistant on defense or something who 184 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: has a D line background. I don't know. 185 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mentioned Sean how outside linebackers coach. That 186 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: is being again that's still in the reported stage, not 187 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 3: officially official, but yeah, it would be his first NFL job. 188 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 3: He's been at Tennessee, USC, NC State, Coastal Carolina, a 189 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: lot of different college. 190 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: Programs and good ones too, but they would be TJ. Watt. 191 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: It is much different, much different than coaching grown men 192 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: who were making thirty forty million dollars a year, age 193 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. So yeah, we talked about Angelico pretty 194 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: extensively yesterday I'm with you. I think you're plucking him 195 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: from one of those trees that Yeah, you'd like to 196 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: have some of that fruit. 197 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, bring those ideas with you. 198 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: You would like to have some of that fruit. Danny Crossman, 199 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: special teams guy, we've discussed a little bit. And then 200 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: Joe Witt Junior, I think is probably the one that 201 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: we haven't mentioned too much. Assistant head coach and secondary 202 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 3: coach for him heading here here in Mike McCarthy's staff 203 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: in year one. 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 4: Another huge job because it's a lot of human beings, 205 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 4: I mean, secondary coach. Now, I'm sure he'll have a 206 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: safety guy and a corners guy or whatever. He won't 207 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: be alone in charge of all the defensive backs. But 208 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: I do think it's a feather in his cap, you know, 209 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 4: to be like, we're gonna give you the assistant head 210 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 4: coach title too. I mean that's more money, that's more respect, 211 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: that's all that stuff. 212 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: Well, he spent the last two years as the Commander's 213 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: defensive court Yes. First year obviously successful, last year not 214 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 3: so much. 215 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: I do like that. 216 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: That to me is kind of the opposite of taking 217 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: a chance on a younger guy. Is we're going to 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: bring in a veteran guy who was just serving in 219 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 3: a major role as defensive coordinator and now he's just 220 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: in charge of the secondary. 221 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 222 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe he's a little overqualify. 223 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: Maybe he's a. 224 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 3: Little overqualified for what we're having him do. So I 225 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: do like that blend. And last time Matt that he 226 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: was working as a secondary coach, specifically de secondary and 227 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 3: defensive pass game coordinator prior to the Commanders was under 228 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy in Dallas twenty one, twenty two, and twenty three, 229 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: and during that time, the Cowboys led the NFL with 230 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 3: fifty nine interceptions during the three years working with the secondary. 231 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay, the one thing I was gonna say is you 232 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 4: could be like, well, Washington's defense wasn't very good, and 233 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: it wasn't, but I think it was close to the 234 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: Raiders in terms of lack of talent. Yeah. I mean 235 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: this year in particular, I thought they were really really 236 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 4: poor on that side of the ball, just in terms 237 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 4: of personnel. And I looked at a couple of the 238 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: Commander's final numbers. They weren't as bad as you think. 239 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 4: I mean, they weren't a bottom six or seven type defense. 240 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 4: Despite having bottom six or seven type talent. 241 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: He's got an extensive background. Started his coaching career at 242 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: Auburn in the year two thousand, spent some time in college, 243 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 3: and then two thousand and seven Falcons assistant dB coach, 244 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight Packers defensive quality control and then 245 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine to twenty seventeen, long stretched there 246 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: of nearly a decade. He was the Packers cornerback coach 247 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: and then the pass game coordinator, and then that same 248 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: title with the Browns secondary in past game, same title 249 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 3: with the Falcons secondary and pass game coordinator those three 250 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 3: years in Dallas, and then two years as a defensive 251 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,479 Speaker 3: coordinator with the Washington Commanders. So that's a that's an experienced, 252 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: experienced season dude. 253 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. And the pass game coordinator stuff I like as well. 254 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: Having that throwne in there. Now it's defensive guys obviously, 255 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 4: but again hard to comment on assistant coaches. It just is, 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 4: but I like the approach they've taken to building the staff. 257 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Same and then finally pat Riley defensive quality control coach. 258 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: He was an offensive assistant for the Houston Texans last year, 259 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 3: so he was part of that Texans group that that 260 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: just want at Akroshur Stadium a few weeks ago, prior. 261 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: To his time somebody from that aggressive group. 262 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm cool with that. 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: Prior to his time with Houston, he was with the Jags, 264 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: his assistant linebackers coach and defensive quality control. Before that, 265 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 3: was a defensive analyst for Alabama and defensive coordinator at 266 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 3: U C l A. 267 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 4: So he's got to see a Bama. He sure was good. Okay, good, 268 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: good man. 269 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: You talk about plucking fruit from from a tree. 270 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I say, Ryan's played for Saban. I assume that's 271 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: how he got to Houston. Was saving connection makes sense? Okay, 272 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: would make sense. I'm all cool with that treat. 273 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: I am wrong, I'm completely completely in with that. 274 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: Now he's people might not know what a quality control 275 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 4: coach is. He's the lowest guy on the ladder. I 276 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 4: mean he's kind of like it. Pitt. We would have 277 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: and back in the day, I know things have changed, 278 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: and you know better than I do. We had a 279 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: D line coach, we had a DN coach, we had 280 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: a linebacker coach, secondary coach, and a defensive GA and 281 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 4: he was way I mean he cut up tape and 282 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 4: I mean I was a GA. We went and got 283 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 4: dinners and you know that kind of stuff too. Yes, 284 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: at the NFL level, it's a little more glorified than that. 285 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: You get paid better. I mean I made twelve grand 286 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: a year. He makes a real twelve grand. Yeah, he 287 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: made a real salary. But he's low guy in the 288 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: Tote Bowl. He's a new coach, So if people were 289 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: looking at him like, man, why would you hire that guy? 290 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 4: Because he's an up and comer. I mean he's not 291 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: asked to coordinate anything. 292 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: Was that your was that? Your first salary was twelve grand? 293 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: I was there for three years, which was long for 294 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: a GA. I was twelve grand. Twelve grand, which is 295 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 4: what they paid, and I was the only GA in 296 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: history to that point got a raised. I went up 297 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: to eighteen the last year. Yeah. Yeah. 298 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: My first job was. 299 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: Like whoo, I'm buying you know. My first job it 300 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: was like by the ways, like ninety cents an hour. Sure, 301 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: we figured that out, every man. 302 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: My first job, you know, working for the hockey team 303 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: in Ohio. My salary was twenty four grand a year 304 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 3: and I worked seventy hours a week. 305 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean if you brought. 306 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: A lot of bus rides and you know, we played 307 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: a sixty game schedule home and away, and that was 308 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: every game. I mean I went months without a day off. 309 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 3: Twenty four grand a year. Now, I did get six 310 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: percent of all season ticket packages that I would sell 311 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: that during the offseason. I would hit that pretty hard 312 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: because now every ticket thing or sponsorship thing I got 313 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: six percent of the deal, but. 314 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 4: A season ticket package for that levels not real price. 315 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: Two hundred bucks in a full season for a buck 316 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 3: eight sign up before March. Last thing for you, Matt, 317 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: is you kind of mentioned the coaching staff lineage. I 318 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 3: thought we should hit on this as part of the 319 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: news of the day because we're a big fan of 320 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: his and I know everybody within the Steelers organization wishes 321 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: him well. Carl Dunbar, former defensive line coach, was officially 322 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 3: hired by the New York Jets last night for the same. 323 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: That goodlet me. He knew he's gonna land somewhere. 324 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: As long as he wanted to continue coaching. 325 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: He's one of the most respected guys uh in this 326 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 3: business and did a great job here in Pittsburgh. And 327 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: I know I've told you this before, but on road 328 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: trips I will miss man so many times. We'd be 329 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: on the road, and one of the main stays until 330 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: this year obviously was Carl Dunbar and Craig Wolfley sitting 331 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: out front of the hotel smoking a cigar and swapping 332 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 3: old war stories and talking about the upcoming opponents and 333 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 3: wolf you know, picking picking coach Dunbar's brain on the 334 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: upcoming offensive line and all these different things. 335 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: Makes sense. 336 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: The it was more often than not that that outside 337 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 3: of the team hotel, you would see coach Dunbar and 338 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: you'd see wolf you know, puffing on a stogie and 339 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 3: having having you know, PhD level football conversation. So that'll 340 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: be that'll be something that I'll miss and obviously we 341 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: all wish, we all wish coach Dunbar the best there 342 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: with the Jets. 343 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume he'll get a young group to 344 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: start drafting d lineman for him to develop. 345 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: I would think so. 346 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: Because they just traded away Quentin Williams and some of 347 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 3: the piece on episodes, They've got a ton of picks 348 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 3: and a lot for him to work with their coming 349 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: up shortly. 350 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm sure that's our news of the day. 351 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: To get us started here today, let's talk a little 352 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: Super Bowl let's set the scene some of the latest. 353 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: You mentioned some of the injury stuff. 354 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what. I haven't looked at the 355 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 4: injury report. 356 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: And there's a potential significant one for Seattle's defense from yesterday. 357 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 3: Oh really, a name that you salivate over, and we've 358 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 3: mentioned many times on this show. 359 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: You know he might be a second round rookie. 360 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 361 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, his first name might rhyme with pick. We'll talk 362 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: about that when we return. We'll start to set the 363 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: scene for the Super Bowl a little bit here today 364 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 3: and obviously a whole bunch tomorrow will do all that 365 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: and more as we roll along. You'ler Williamson, It's the 366 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, 367 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: your Teams. 368 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 369 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio. 370 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: It is Super Bowl Week here on the Drive all 371 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: across the National Football League, and Matt, with that, we 372 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: do need to start getting into some Super Bowl conversation 373 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: as we have got just a few days until the 374 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 3: big game. But also part of that, as we all know, 375 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: tonight will be the NFL honors, which they will so 376 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 3: tomorrow by the time we come in here, we'll know 377 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: who wins m VP and Offensive Player of the Year 378 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: and Coach of the Year and all that stuff. 379 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: And I don't think Hall of Famers are announced tonight. 380 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 3: They are that I know at least the modern era players. 381 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: Are probably everything. 382 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:42,479 Speaker 2: I would think everything. 383 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 3: So we'll have on Elsie Greenwood and some of these 384 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 3: others that we've discussed. And I got to tell you what, 385 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: Jarry Evans, yes, with the with the premature reports that 386 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 3: Bell Belichick and Robert Kraft did not make it, that 387 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: makes me feel pretty good about those the Elsie Greenwood, 388 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Roger Craig, and Kenny Anderson there. 389 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a pretty good group of seniors. 390 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: Usually it's like, who's that guy again? 391 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: Sometimes like all three of those guys have very deserving, 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: very deserving case. I think I think he certainly does. 393 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: But we will know five Modern Era electees, I guess 394 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: is the term I'm looking for, uh tonight. 395 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: It's most but they always put five in yes, and. 396 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: I think especially with this class, and you and I 397 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: have kind of discussed this a little bit in the past, 398 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: but I feel like Drew Brees and Larry Fitz are 399 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: absolute locks, absolute locks. I feel like Keiley gets in, 400 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: I hope. So I feel like Witton gets in. 401 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 4: He was one of my picks, but I'm not it's 402 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: certain he gets in. And it came out that Eli's 403 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: not getting in. 404 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: That has leaked as well, Yeah, which is kind of surprising, 405 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: Which makes me think Suggs has a good chance to 406 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: get in this year. 407 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 4: Yonda would have been one of my Yonda Yeah, maybe 408 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: Tory Holt. Yeah, it might be a year. 409 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 3: But in three of those five, I feel very confident. 410 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 3: And Breeze fits in, Keikley. 411 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: In me too. So I had buddies asked me, They're like, 412 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: you didn't get in, Belichick didn't get in, Will Brady 413 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: not get in either? Or they hold that out? Yes, 414 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: I like zero percent chance, right, And also a different process. 415 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: You would probably take you and I almost a full 416 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: segment here to break this to get into all this, 417 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: But you're right, it's a completely different process. Yeah. 418 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: And it's a goofy process that needs fakes. 419 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: It's not that there's fifty people voting and they're circling 420 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: no for craft in Belichick, right, It's that they can 421 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 3: only vote for so many and they're voting for Ken 422 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: Anderson and Elsie Greenwood, and they're voting for the players 423 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: instead exactly because those players only have such a fine 424 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: night window that they can get in. 425 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: It's like their last chance. 426 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: It's like their last chance saloon. 427 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 4: I wouldn't get them in. 428 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: So if you can only vote. 429 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 3: Five guy or three guys in, or five guys in, 430 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 3: whatever it is, you're like, I'm voting for these players 431 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 3: because Belichick's gonna get in eventually, right. 432 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: That's it's the way that they're like, somebody else will 433 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 4: vote for him, He'll get in. 434 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 3: I don't have the way that the general public has 435 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: reacted to this and the stephen A. Smith mouthpieces of 436 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: sports media. I can't believe they didn't vote for these 437 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 3: people to get it. 438 00:20:58,760 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: It's not that simple. 439 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: It's not just a yes or no that these people 440 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: are circling no for Bill Belichick. It's that they're looking 441 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: at it and they're going these are the last chance 442 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: for some of these players. 443 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 4: I want to I think Roger Craig's deserving. 444 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: A League MVP in the past, and Ken Anderson, you 445 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: know what I mean, to get into the. 446 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. So it's a flawed voting system. 447 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: It's not just people saying no no, no to all 448 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: these patriots because they're trying to hold Spygate. 449 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 4: And things like that. 450 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: That's a convenient narrative, but it's just not true. 451 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if my chance Brady didn't get in, I'd 452 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: be like, oh my lord. I mean like, because that's 453 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: a different process, and you basically are voting no for him. 454 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 4: They're five for someone in a contemporary over him. 455 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: They're fifty voters and they can only vote for three 456 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: of those senior and contributor class YEP. 457 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: So this was a big deal in Russell Wilson and 458 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: Ben Roethlisberger's career and Dale and I laid this out 459 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. I guess what it was. 460 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 4: Russ was here. Neither one from what I understand, ever 461 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: got an MVP vote, and that sounds terrible, like, oh man, 462 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 4: how could they not get one? Why not get an 463 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: MVP vote? Because I think there's thirty two voters. I 464 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 4: think there's one in every season every city, maybe there's 465 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 4: fifty at most whatever, it is somewhere between thirty and 466 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 4: fifty voters, and they only get one vote. So many 467 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 4: years it's unanimous. It's like, my homes is the MVP. 468 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: So if you're like third on the list, you might 469 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 4: not get any votes, you know, Like last year is 470 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: a lot of Allen, was a lot of Lamar. But 471 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: most years it's pretty obvious who the MVP is, And 472 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 4: even if you're the second best guy, you might not 473 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 4: get a vote. 474 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: It's not a Heisman ballot, no, or you're voting for 475 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: your top three, top five or whatever the case. 476 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's I mean, you could have been top 477 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: five five years in a row and gotten no votes. 478 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: I urge people to do this in every walk of life, 479 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: but especially when it comes to media stuff like this. 480 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: Before you hit the outrage button, pause and look at 481 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: the process and the guidelines, and because quite often it's 482 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: not as simple as people like to make. 483 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 4: It seems like being in your fane the league and 484 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: not known the rules. 485 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: You know, I if it's like it's like I was 486 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: just gonna say, it's like being upset because you thought 487 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: that you was a PPR league and so you drafted 488 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: wide receivers differently, right, Like read the rules right, don't 489 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: hate the player, hate the. 490 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: Game, yeah, exactly, or something like that. Matt nick Emon 491 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: worry is that how he pronounces it? 492 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 4: I know, we man worry. Yes, I usually butcher it. 493 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 2: You are a big fan of his. 494 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 3: Of course, the rookie safety from the versatile chess piece 495 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: there in the second modern day slot. 496 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: He's the modern day slot that we've tied. 497 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 4: So much about. That's why they can live in big Nickel. 498 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: The Brian Branches, the Cooper de Jeans, these these type of. 499 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 4: Guys Coincidentally, just last segment, we were talking about differences 500 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: from ten years ago to now. 501 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: That's a massive one. 502 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 4: They laid out the percentage of base defense in the league, 503 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 4: across the league, then the now you know Steelers have 504 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: been there three to four. It's like, I want to say, 505 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 4: twenty five percent heavier to nickel than or twenty five 506 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: percent less base now than that. 507 00:23:58,520 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 3: In fact, I would have guessed it was even more 508 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 3: than that. But that's that's still a praise. 509 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 4: It might even be higher. 510 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: Uh, he's a finalist for Defensive Rookie of the Year. 511 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: I know, I'm sure you've done some of this. In fact, 512 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: I think I saw some of it in my algorithm. 513 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 3: Actually redraft of last year's. 514 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: Draft I did. 515 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: That's been popular and you and. 516 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 3: I might end up doing that at some point in 517 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 3: March and April when we need to fill a segment 518 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 3: or two. 519 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 4: He just did one. 520 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: He'd have been a first round pick. I was going 521 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 3: to say probably top probably top ten. So a real 522 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 3: steal in the second round for the Seahawks. Injured his 523 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: ankle in practice yesterday. Is listed now as limited. 524 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 4: To their credit because they traded Gino and d K. 525 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: They went up and got Mui at the beginning of 526 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 4: the second round. You know, like when when Friday started, 527 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: they were on the phones heavy. I'm sure the night 528 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 4: before we got to get our Kyle Hamilton from the 529 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: Ravens defense, and that's exactly what they got. 530 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: Yes So that's that's one to keep an eye on 531 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: because he's a real chess piece that lets them do 532 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: the things that make them successful on defense. 533 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,239 Speaker 4: It's the exact same conversation I had about Petrie when 534 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 4: the Steelers played Houston. You know that he's the rug 535 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 4: that ties the room together. Yeah, I mean, he allows 536 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: so many other people to flourish because he can do everything. 537 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: It's a big Lebowski joke in there somewhere about the 538 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: rug that ties the room together. The Seahawks had perfect 539 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 3: attendance at practice yesterday, but did have several players listed 540 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 3: as limited, along with Emon Worry. 541 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold with an oblique. 542 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: I think he said I'm playing, which, of course he is. 543 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: Offensive tackle Charles Cross. 544 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 4: With the foot that's been bothering him for a while. 545 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: There are other offensive tackled Josh Jones with an ankle 546 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: and a knee. DeMarcus Lawrence just Risted listed his veteran rest, 547 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba same thing, just as rest. 548 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 2: And keep bubble wrap and uh and another veteran on 549 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 2: that defense, Leonard Williams. 550 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: Just Cam Hayward. Rest type guys. 551 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so hey, Donald, not one hundred percent, but most 552 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: guys aren't this time of year. I think the same 553 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: with with Charles Cross and now and now Emon Worry. 554 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: But all in all, not terrible for Seattle. 555 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: I do like that they give the Super Bowl an 556 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 4: extra week just for health reasons too, better chance to 557 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: get the best players out there with that week off. 558 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, for the Patriots, pretty thin injury report. Robert 559 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: Splane did not practice yesterday with an ankle, but he 560 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: said he's a hundred percent confident he's playing. Harold Landry 561 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: limited with a knee injury. Most important development though, for 562 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: the Patriots. Is that Drake may no longer listed he's 563 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 3: full full go with that with that right shoulder. 564 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: In Okay, now he's taking a beating in the playoffs. 565 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: He has, Yeah, he has, and that'll certainly. I mean 566 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: for both quarterbacks. I think both of us would be 567 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: shocked if they wouldn't play. 568 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, but I. 569 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 4: Donold played phenomenal last week. 570 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 3: I mean, so few of those guys are one hundred 571 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: percent this year, but you know, enough for both of 572 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 3: those guys to keep an eye on once things kick 573 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 3: off on Sunday night, Matt as we you know, look 574 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: a little bit at some Super Bowl specifics here, I 575 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: tell you what one thing. 576 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: I wanted. 577 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 3: There's a bunch obviously that I want to pick your 578 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 3: brain on, but I think it starts with talking about 579 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 3: is the number one matchup to keep an eye on? 580 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: Is that the Seattle defensive front against the Patriots offensive line? 581 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: Is that kind of the biggest X factor? 582 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 4: Probably one X factor that I always throw out there 583 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 4: because Seattle is so good at it is they have 584 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: a big special teams advantage. Again, we talked about that 585 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: with the Rams. 586 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: So it's funny. 587 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 3: I had a couple of things listed here for us 588 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: to kick around. Yeah, one is Seattle's special teams advantage. 589 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 4: It's not as big as the Rams. The Rams were 590 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: like bottom of the league. Patriots are average, but Seattle, 591 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 4: especially since getting Shaheed, they get a lot of which 592 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 4: is huge because I expected to be a very defensive game. 593 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 4: And to your point, I think the big I guess 594 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 4: the big matchups are similar to what you said, but 595 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. And it makes me 596 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 4: And we had this conversation when we broke down the 597 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 4: Steelers D line yesterday or day before. I'm greedy there. 598 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: I want another. But Murphy and Williams versus the interior 599 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: the Patriots O line greatly favorite Seattle, and as much 600 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: as I love Gray's Abel, the rookie guard, bar More 601 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: and Williams greatly have an advantage over the interior of 602 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: Seattle's interior line. Okay, Yeah, I'm just I think the 603 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 4: tackles could rule the day. 604 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: That was the case. That was the case for the 605 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: Eagles last year. 606 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I could see May trying to put the 607 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 4: cape on but just getting beat up like crazy by 608 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: that front, much like Mahomes. 609 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean, their tackle what Williams and Carter were able 610 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 3: to do last year. They destroyed worlds on Kansas City's 611 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: offensive line. 612 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 4: But I'm with you too. I mean, I think Campbell's 613 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 4: in for a real long day. Yeah, this time of year, 614 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 4: because it's one game. Some of the analytic nerds that 615 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: I follow and stuff really get into things. And this 616 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 4: is a draft note, but like one of the reasons 617 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: one of the only knocks on Will Campbell coming out 618 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 4: with short arms, you know, and I didn't like him 619 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 4: that much to begin with, and he's. 620 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: Really you've been on You've been on the record, they've 621 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: been rough on him. You would have taken Membo. 622 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're the Patriots. But someone did a study this 623 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 4: year of all the defensive ends Campbell's gone against with 624 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it was like thirty four 625 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: inch arms or longer. Okay, they've all crushed him. M hmm. 626 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: I mean like one of the matter again, some some 627 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: dork getting real into the wings. 628 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 4: Like like I wonder who he had his bad games against. 629 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: What's in common, well, the the length of Lawrence and 630 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 4: all those d ns as you mentioned too, with you know, 631 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: Seattle's front is a problem, is a real problem. And 632 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: even Morgan moses the Ray tackle is going to be overwhelmed. 633 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 4: I think both d lines rule today. 634 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: I think both the lines rule today, and which offensive 635 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 3: line can stymy that, yeah, is going to go a 636 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 3: long way, which like, which offensive line can just contain 637 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 3: it instead of instead of being overwhelmed. 638 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 4: By So it doesn't look like the Chiefs last year. 639 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: So it doesn't look like the Chiefs last year exactly, right? 640 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 3: That to me a chance that's probably the biggest just. 641 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: And May's mobility might help, but I mean not the 642 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 4: Donald's a slouch. Everybody can move absolutely, that was another 643 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: theme from ten years ago. All the quarterbacks can't move 644 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: like they do now. Right. 645 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Chance the tomorrow when we kind of kick off real 646 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: Super Bowl conversation, I mean, I think it starts with 647 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: Drake May and Sam Donald and who do you trust more? 648 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 3: And who would you rather have? But I want to 649 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 3: save that for tomorrow. 650 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah. 651 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: But as we alluded to earlier in the week when 652 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 3: we talked about how successful both of these teams are 653 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: in their explosive play differential huge man. I think particularly 654 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 3: for the Patriots offense because it feels like they kind 655 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: of feast on those explosives like New England's offense needs 656 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: explosives to put up a bunch of points. Yeah, they're 657 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 3: not going to nickel and dime you nine, ten, eleven, 658 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: twelve play drives down the field as often as Seattle could. 659 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 4: I agree. 660 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: And so that to me is another big one. 661 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: Seattle's defense and their ability to limit the explosive plays 662 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: that we've seen all year, New England's offense and their 663 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 3: ability to hit the explosive plays that we've seen all year. 664 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good point because New England could be 665 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 4: three and out, three and out one first down pund 666 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 4: X one right and okay, and then you're in it, 667 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 4: you know, right. 668 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: And that same kind of thing we talked about yesterday 669 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: of when you start in your drives at the thirty 670 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: at the thirty five yard line, you hit one of 671 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: those explosives and you're in plus territory. 672 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: That's points. 673 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that to me is a real is a 674 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: real kind of interesting, interesting storyline to keep an eye on. 675 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 3: And we'll get into some more of these tomorrow. 676 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: That was obviously another trend too. Field goal kickers are 677 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: a lot better now, expotentially better now than they were 678 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: ten years ago. 679 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: It so you know this, it's funny. 680 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, I have a whole list of like off 681 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: season topics for us of you know, when we get 682 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: into the when we get into dry season and we're 683 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 3: not yeah, we're not being spoon fed content. One of 684 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 3: the things that I have, it's right here in my 685 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: off season notes. Kicking seems like it's too easy. Now 686 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: we see more sixty yarders than ever before. Should we 687 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: change something about this kicking game? Do we need to 688 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: make it more difficult? Do we need to shrink the 689 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: field goal posts? All this different stuff. 690 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: Well, we'll have that conversation. There's rounds why too. 691 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: Now is not the time to have that conversation, But 692 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: that is certainly one of the things that has rapidly 693 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: changed is how automatic these these kickers are across the 694 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 3: National Football League. 695 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: In turn, I mean the kickoff rules have done drastic 696 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 4: changes to the league just this past year. I mean, 697 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 4: the dramatic kickoff was not a failure, but now the 698 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: way that they have it structured is way way better 699 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 4: in terms of real returns. I think what an off 700 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: season need for the Steelers is a returner. Yeah, they've 701 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 4: been down the list, but like I've mentioned several times, 702 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 4: like I'd love to see him sign Romeo Dobbs and 703 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 4: a first round pick receiver and another guy. Well that 704 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: other guy might be a six rounder. That's a jitterbug 705 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 4: punt returner, kick returner type, you know what I mean? 706 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, And that is one of those things too. 707 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 3: I think that especially, I know you've mentioned this before. 708 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 3: If they end up expanding the active roster that happens 709 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 3: that everybody exactly right, exactly right. 710 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 4: I should remember his name, But who was the dude 711 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: that played four or five games of the Steelers. I 712 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 4: want to say his last name was Williams. He's a 713 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: receiver by trade, Yeah, Kyron Williams, all right, right, like 714 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 4: he would be on the roster all year. Then just 715 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 4: just do that. Yes, but it makes a game better, 716 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 4: Oh it sure does. 717 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 3: Right over under for this is forty five and a half. 718 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: Seahawks favored by four and a half points, so that's 719 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: about a twenty five the twenty ish final scorer, you know, projected, 720 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: give or take. We'll get into more prediction stuff and 721 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: all that tomorrow. But Matt, the last thing I really 722 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 3: started noticing today when I was deep diving into this. 723 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 3: I can't remember the last time there was a super 724 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 3: Bowl that felt this unanimous in terms of the picks. 725 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 4: Really maybe one. 726 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: Of these Chiefs years. 727 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but man, like, it feels like eighty ninety 728 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: percent of the you know, quote unquote analyst, doesn't matter 729 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: where you go, ESPNNFL, dot com anywhere else, are picking 730 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: the Seattle Seahawks. 731 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: I'm going to spoiler right, but I'm shocked the lines 732 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: that low give me. I have a lot of respect 733 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 4: for May and Vrabel and their defense playing really well. 734 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: It's given me some vibes of that first page Riots 735 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: team that won a Super Bowl back in like two 736 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 3: thousand and two, when it. 737 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 2: Was all, look how good the Saint Louis Rams are in. 738 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: The turf and the Patriots Patriots are just lucky to 739 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 3: be here, and then they win a knockdown, drag out, 740 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: low scoring defensive battle. 741 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: I guess don't same here. 742 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 3: I do not think this will be the sexy Super 743 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 3: Bowl of lighting it up and back and forth that 744 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 3: we have seen a few times over the last handful 745 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 3: of years. Felt like that was always the case when 746 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 3: the Chiefs and the Niners met up. Certainly, but yeah, 747 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be a fun one. 748 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: On Sunday. 749 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 3: We'll get more into it some of the matchups and 750 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: specifics tomorrow, but when we return, Matt little Best of 751 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 3: the West. Okay, we've gotten some questions on Twitter about 752 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 3: super Bowl food and Super Bowl traditions and things like 753 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 3: that that I want to kick around with you. And 754 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: then there was one thing that struck me this morning 755 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: talking about how much the game has changed and all that. 756 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 3: I was watching some highlight packages from Super Bowls of yesteryear. 757 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: And something stood out to me that I really missed. 758 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 3: That doesn't happen anymore. All Right, I'll run that by 759 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: you when we return to close down the first hour 760 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 3: as well. On the other side, more super Bowl Talk 761 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: West Shoeoler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive on Steelers 762 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes. 763 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of 764 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation. 765 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: Radio, closing down the first hour of the Drive here 766 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: on this Thursday. And Matt, we have gotten some tweets 767 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: about what are your musts for Super Bowl Sunday, for 768 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 3: food wise and for all those things. I got some stereotypical, 769 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 3: but I think it's still fun to have, you know, 770 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: conversations you and I don't spend as much time on 771 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: that as nearly anybody else does. 772 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: So I should run this by you because I'm going 773 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 4: to be useless for this segment, because I treat it 774 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 4: like any other Sunday of the year. I sit in 775 00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: my chair and I do work, you know. 776 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 3: So it's hilarious you say that because I'm not quite 777 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 3: to that extent, but I'm somewhere in between. 778 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 4: But I'm questioning should I just go to a party 779 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 4: and just watch every snap? I mean, I don't know, all. 780 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 2: Right, so let's let's go there. 781 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 4: Let's go there. 782 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 3: I really sit on the fence on that one because 783 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 3: it is fun. It's an American tradition. You'd get a 784 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: pot luck thing like, hey, I'm getting a hundred wings. 785 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 3: Everybody else bring a side. 786 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 4: You know. I would eat better. I mean, I might 787 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: eat just whatever's in the fridge. 788 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: You know. All through all throughout my twenties before I 789 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 3: had kids, you know, really like up until COVID timeframe. 790 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 2: We did that. 791 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, going to parties and parties all that stuff. 792 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 3: And don't get me wrong, it is a lot of fun, 793 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 3: and it's a fun tradition. But at the same time, 794 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 3: one you're not is intently watching the game. 795 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 4: That's the thing. I gotta talk about it next. 796 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 3: I don't care even if you are with all your 797 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 3: buddies who are all football junkies too, Like you're just 798 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 3: not as intently watching the game as you are at home. 799 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 3: And two, and this is kind of the big kicker 800 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: for me. When I do Super Bowl parties, When we 801 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 3: do those gatherings, what do we do in this country? 802 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 3: We overeat, we overdrink, we indulge. And then I wake 803 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 3: up Monday morning lethargic and feeling like crap. 804 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 2: And I gotta work all day, like it's a Monday. 805 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 3: I hate starting a Monday tired, and i ate way 806 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: too much last night, and I'm a little hungover and 807 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: all those like. 808 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: I hate to have a beverage. I watched the game. 809 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm gonna eat some food. 810 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 3: But when you do the party gathering, you eat way 811 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 3: too much and you end up staying up later and 812 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 3: the whole time. Yeah, exactly right, And then you wake 813 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 3: up Monday groggy and lethargic, and it's a slow start 814 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: to the week, and all that. 815 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 4: I already know the answer. I'm gonna be home alone, 816 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 4: sitting in my lazy boy watch. 817 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, enjoying it, like one or two of my buddies 818 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 3: might come over. But we're not doing anything crazy. Like 819 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 3: last night my wife said to me, what should we 820 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: do for food for the Super Bowl? And I was like, oh, yeah, 821 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 3: I didn't even think about that. Yeah, probably too late 822 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 3: to pre order wings or anything like that. 823 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just last time we went to Giant Eagle. 824 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 4: Whatever's in the fridge, or maybe I'll order pizza for myself. 825 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 4: Like I'm not even home to walk. You hit me 826 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 4: like flopped there, you know, right right? 827 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: But RJ tweeted us, Chris tweeted us. 828 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 3: I think there was somebody else that's like that, Like, 829 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 3: you know, I need to know you must have foods 830 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: on a Super Bowl spread top three foods for Super 831 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 3: Bowl Sunday. That kind of thing I am big on. 832 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 3: Like there has to be some wings involved. 833 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 4: Wings are huge. 834 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 3: I feel like wings have to be involved, so that 835 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 3: would certainly be one. And then you gotta have some 836 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: good dips, some good chips and dips. 837 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 4: We're assuming this is a party environment, right or even 838 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 4: at least you know, eight to ten people over or something. Yeah, yeah, 839 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 4: showing like you're hostings Yeah, it's not just Johnny from 840 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 4: next door stops over. 841 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 3: Correct correct gotta have some wings. I think you gotta 842 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 3: have some good chips and dips, some Buffalo chicken dip. 843 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: You guys should know this opinion on wings. I respect 844 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: all the other flavors. I never ever ever order them 845 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 4: because I love Buffalo so much. I I They're like 846 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: a different zine for me. 847 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 3: I'm seventy five percent okay, Buffalo. I do like like 848 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 3: a good I see ranch type wing. I do love 849 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: a good women lemon pepper wing. 850 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 4: You know, like when the Steelers get like a draft 851 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 4: sometimes they have like eight million of them and I 852 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 4: try them. They're fine, but I'm like a flower, like 853 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 4: the purp. Why would you have them? To mess with them? 854 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 4: And nobody's messing with them. But I would always order Buffle. 855 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: Big Shot Bob's has a wing called the Mean Joe Green. 856 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: I've had them. They were at the draft a couple 857 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: of years ago. 858 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like it's like a gold sauce. I do 859 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 3: love a gold sauce, good gold sauce. It's like a 860 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 3: gold sauce with a jalapeno drizzle on it. 861 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 4: Unbelievable and it was really good, but I Buffalo's better. 862 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: I'm seventy five perfect, I'm seventy five eighty percent of 863 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 3: the time Buffalo, yeah, yeah, and then like ten percent 864 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 3: of the time lemon pepper. I am a lemon pepper fan. 865 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: And then ten percent of the time something else. 866 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: Like if I went to your house and all you 867 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 4: had was lemon pepper, I'd be happy. 868 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 2: But I know what you mean, But if I'm. 869 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: Sitting there with the menu, I would always pick Buffalo. Brother, 870 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 4: not even try. 871 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: Brother. 872 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: You are not breaking any news to me because you 873 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,479 Speaker 3: remember once upon a time, back in the early days 874 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 3: of my employment here, when I was just doing behind 875 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 3: the scenes stuff. For the most part, I'd go the 876 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 3: South Park Clubhouse every Wednesday night with with you and Wolf. 877 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 4: We've moved locations, but we're still doing and. 878 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 3: Wolf and Matt before they would put down a rack 879 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: of ribs, would put down like two dozen Buffalo aways. Yeah, 880 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 3: while they were in the middle of breaking down the 881 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns offensive line. 882 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: It was. It was cinema. 883 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 4: One of the tricks is and Wolf doesn't adhere to this. 884 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 4: I go boneless when you're on the air. 885 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 2: When you're on the air, because he doesn't care. 886 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 4: If he was covered in wing sauce. I'm like, I 887 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 4: don't really want to be covered in wing sauce. 888 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: You just take a fork and stat right. 889 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 4: I mean, I would a boneless dip theman in blue cheese, 890 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: and it's way more efficient. Like if you asked Tom 891 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 4: or Tim, I get them ninety percent of the time. 892 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 4: That's my meal. I got a double order of boneless, 893 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 4: double order of boneless. 894 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 2: I remember it well. You still get the rack of 895 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 2: ribs too, or just the double order. 896 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's funny, that's funny. They usually get side solid 897 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 4: to be healthy too. I have because I didn't care 898 00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 4: one bit about that. 899 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: Imagine no pieces of peanut butter pie to take everywhere 900 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: with him, bones everywhere from the wings and ribs, and 901 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 3: then he'd walk out with two bags full of desserts. 902 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,440 Speaker 2: Got I miss that guy. 903 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: I another thing that's really changed about me in my thirties. 904 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 3: I'll be thirty five here at the end of the 905 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: month of February, so I'm knocking on the door of 906 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: thirty five. 907 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: Is I still like I told you? 908 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 3: I like A like if it's a if it's a 909 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 3: buffalo spicy ranch wing. But man, if I become a 910 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 3: blue cheese guy in the last three four five years 911 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: of my life. 912 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 4: Again, if all you had was ranch, I don't know 913 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 4: if I would dip a buffalo wing in it or not. 914 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 2: No, but if it's part of the if it's part 915 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: of the sauce. 916 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 3: Is when I like a like a spicy ranch wing, 917 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 3: it's part of the sauce proper, not. 918 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,640 Speaker 2: Just a dip. If I'm dipping, I'm going buffalo all day. 919 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: Like I get mad at my kids, Like if my 920 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 4: kids are old enough that they'll order food for us 921 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: now you know, yeah, Like what do you want? And 922 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,240 Speaker 4: like just get me wings? And like if they forget 923 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 4: the blue cheese, Like, come on, they're on the they're 924 00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 4: on the list, dude, Like they should know better. 925 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 3: Come on, new habit once a night in the Ewler household, 926 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 3: or once a night that'd be a lot. Once a 927 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 3: week in the Euler household, we do we do ribbis 928 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 3: and cab night nice So we get ribbis and we 929 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 3: get a nice, nice bottle of cabs and wife does 930 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 3: mashed potatoes. I do the steaks and asparagus. I've been 931 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: starting the last couple of weeks. I'll get just a 932 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 3: little thing of blue cheese at the grocery store, like 933 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 3: a like a half pound, not even quarter pound, or 934 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: like good blue cheese. Just put some crumbles on on 935 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 3: like part of the ribbi. Oh, it's unbelievable. 936 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 4: That's probably my steak of choice in an unlimited selection. 937 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 4: If again they open a menu, probably doesn't matter what take. 938 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,479 Speaker 4: Would probably be a ribbi with crab and blue cheese 939 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 4: on it. It could be the saucy ones but crumbled. 940 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 4: It's probably better because it starts to melt too, But 941 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 4: that's why. 942 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 3: You put a little just like and I don't want 943 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: it on every single bite, just like half of my 944 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 3: ribbi with a little blue cheese crumble it's on, it's on. 945 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: Wings. Dips. 946 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 4: Dips are big, big time. 947 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: And and I guess my third thing. 948 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 4: I've eaten more of that like my dad had when 949 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 4: I was six. It's just old school soft pretzel. No, 950 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 4: just old school French onion dip. It's so good great. 951 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 4: I never would eat a good. 952 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 2: I never eat like hell of a good. 953 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, what's the one from around here that everyone. 954 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeahs baby, Yeah, I'm a big, a big soft pretzel 955 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 3: guy too. We had that conversation the other day. My 956 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 3: wife is a big soft pretzels for the super Bowl. 957 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 3: Her Philly, you know, her Philly heritage comes out. 958 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 4: I would never eat it. I would never choose a 959 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 4: plane potato chip. But what French onion dip? Yeah? 960 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: See, I think that's one of the areas you and I. 961 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: I love a classic glazed donut. I love just a 962 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 3: classic basic potato chip. 963 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 4: If there was a bull at a party, that would 964 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 4: be I would not pick. 965 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 3: That if they're done right. I love the classic chips. 966 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 3: I love the classic donuts. Matt, we're up against it here. 967 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 3: The one thing that I told you I was scrolling 968 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,240 Speaker 3: through reels today and watching super Bowl highlights of past. 969 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 4: Yeah. Act of chili to the side is never a 970 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 4: bad idea, something something. 971 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 2: Now you're talking bro flashbobs, light bulbs at super Bowl kickoffs. 972 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 4: I guess they don't exist anymore. 973 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 3: They don't exist anymore. And because everyone's got the cell 974 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 3: phone and it's. 975 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 4: You know, but I even missed lighters at concerts. 976 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: Lighters at concerts. But man, someone posted it might have 977 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 3: been the NFL account this morning. The devin Hester. It's 978 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 3: like the anniversary the devin Hester opening kickoff. 979 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 4: It's like a bomb goes off. 980 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,959 Speaker 2: It is unbelievable. 981 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 4: Everyone in the stadium, percent. 982 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 2: Of the stadium, you got the flat. 983 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 3: It was such a call and I was like, I 984 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,799 Speaker 3: remember that was always a thing as a kid, Like 985 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: I remember my. 986 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: Grandpa being like, wait for the flash babs, flash bubs 987 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,919 Speaker 2: and the lights. 988 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 4: You can see the moon so cool. 989 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 3: It was like an LED drone show before we had 990 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 3: LED drone shows. That's one of those old time things 991 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,360 Speaker 3: that I missed. All the all the light bulbs on 992 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 3: the kickoff hour in the books. Now another hour to go. 993 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 3: When we return for hour number two, Matt and I 994 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 3: will step back into the professor chair, we will continue 995 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 3: this week's exercise of position group report cards for the 996 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,840 Speaker 3: It'sburg Steelers. We'll also get to some of your tweets 997 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 3: before we get up out of here in our number 998 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 3: two as well. Halfway Home on the Drive Steelers Nation 999 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 3: Radio on the Steelers Audio Network