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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: You don't football championship that should always do the expectations.

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Speaker 2: A man, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Richard Sherman Podcast. We got an incredible

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Speaker 4: guest today, the great Eric Armstead of the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. Coming off a big playoff win. How

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Speaker 4: you feeling good?

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Speaker 5: Man, Blessed, blessed to you know, be earn another right

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Speaker 5: with with my teammates, my brothers, heading to the NFC

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Speaker 5: Championship game.

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Speaker 2: You know, man, blessed this your fourth?

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, this is my fourth fourth NFC Championship game

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Speaker 5: in five years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it gotta be your fourth, Yes, my fourth and

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Speaker 2: five years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on now, I'm not you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: not keeping up with stats or nothing, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, this ain't your first time to this, to

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Speaker 5: No, it's not my not my first rodeo. My first

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Speaker 5: rodeo was with you, you know when we uh when

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Speaker 5: we when we killed the Packers. But uh yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: my fourth been in this situation before. Definitely blessed to

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Speaker 5: be back in this situation. You know, you get here

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Speaker 5: at this point, it's like, man, you uh, last year

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Speaker 5: we were in it and it's like, dang, you work

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Speaker 5: all year to get back to this point and you know,

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Speaker 5: now it's finally here, opportunity to you know, keep advancing

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Speaker 4: So it's, uh, it's definitely a special time, no questions,

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Speaker 4: special time. Everybody understands what it is. And since I

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Speaker 4: heard him, see that's needed. Obviously, the injury to Brock

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Speaker 4: But take me through that Green Bay game, because there

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Speaker 4: throughout that game. How were you feeling because because it

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Speaker 4: after a long hiatus, you know, dealing with your foot injury,

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Speaker 4: They think it's just oh, you're gonna jump back and

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Speaker 4: Drake got the two interceptions. But talk me through this

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Speaker 5: NFC championship. I don't understand. You know, I don't really

438
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 5: understand the hate. It's kind of weird to me. Maybe

439
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 5: just people need something to talk about or argue about

440
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 5: CONVERSI they just they don't want to see it. They

441
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 5: don't want to see it from a seventh rounder. It's

442
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 5: almost like they don't want to see it. They would

443
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 5: rather give.

444
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: Him all the blame and never giving credit than to

445
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: see him succeed and win and everybody be proven wrong. Hey,

446
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 4: maybe the draft is just broken and maybe just because

447
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: we say talent and arms, and he can throw it

448
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 4: from all these angles. And a kid who just goes

449
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: out there and does it right, just hits it, hits

450
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 4: the guys in stride, makes the right place, makes the

451
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: right decisions. You don't have to always make the high

452
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: lighte off your back foot, fading away sixty yard pass.

453
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: You can and he does that too from Tom so

454
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: that that that's not confused. But he's a guy that

455
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: goes out there and executes during very tough circumstances, like

456
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 4: he's he's the top rated quarterback under pressure, top rated

457
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 4: quarterback when there's not pressure, top rated quarterback with a

458
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: dirty pocket, with a clean pocket, like on the run,

459
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: Like he does it on so many levels. And it's

460
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: like they refuse to see it. But if you took

461
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 4: if you took his his draft position and changed it

462
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 4: and took the seven to a one, then they give

463
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 4: him all the credit in the world. And that's the

464
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 4: that's the part that frustrates me the most. Yeah, it's

465
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 4: definitely definitely weird.

466
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 5: And I also too, you know, being his teammate and

467
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 5: seeing how he responds in the face of adversity, you know,

468
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 5: how does he respond, you know, after throwing four interceptions,

469
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 5: you know, unfazed, still playing, still still trying to win

470
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: the game. Like he's the ultimate He's the ultimate gamer.

471
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 5: He's not playing timid and shy because things didn't go well,

472
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. He's he's out there playing

473
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 5: the position and making the decisions that he feels, you know,

474
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 5: our best, for the best for the team in the situation,

475
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 5: and making the throws and making you know, making the plays.

476
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 5: And so I like to see that, and it showed

477
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 5: again on Saturday, you know, being in that position, you know,

478
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 5: not having a lot of success offensively throughout the game.

479
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 5: You know, offense was stagnate at different times, good at

480
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 5: different times, and but in the end, going down there

481
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 5: and leading our team to a win, you know, it

482
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 5: says a lot, you know about him and the type

483
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 5: of person and player that he is.

484
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: Now.

485
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to get two game plans and

486
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 4: all that, but it's gonna take some run stopping in

487
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 4: this game. They're gonna try to run the ball in

488
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 4: his football game. And that's been a point of emphasis

489
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: for that team. Is something they're really good at, something

490
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: they've done well all season. Obviously they put it on

491
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 4: tape it's got to be something that you guys have

492
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 4: talked about and clearly this team is a team that

493
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: takes pride and stopping the team regardless of what they do.

494
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: But it is that something that's been in the conversations

495
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 4: amongst guys for sure.

496
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 5: You know, it's playoff football in the NFC Championship. The

497
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 5: Lions have a great team, A lot of respect for them.

498
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 5: They wouldn't be in this position if they didn't. You know,

499
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 5: no one just magically flukes up in a championship game.

500
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 5: No one just magically flukes up with great records in

501
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 5: the NFL, they're earned through hard work, you know, discipline, execution,

502
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 5: great coaching, great great plays, great players, and so definitely

503
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: gonna be a huge challenge on us. But that's how

504
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 5: you have What would it be without it? Like that's

505
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: how you have to earn the right to win it all.

506
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: Like that's that's what comes with it. It comes with

507
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 5: the opportunity and the challenge. And that's why you know,

508
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 5: winning a Super Bowl is so precious and it means

509
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 5: so much, is because you have to go against great

510
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 5: teams and you have to figure out a way to

511
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 5: beat them by any means.

512
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: Now, There's been a lot of change for you this year.

513
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 4: You started your own podcast, and I know you're sitting

514
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: here on mind, but how have you enjoyed that space

515
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 4: and enjoyed that journey.

516
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: It's been great, definitely different for me.

517
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 5: You know, some people when I first started, like, oh,

518
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 5: I didn't really you know, see you doing something like

519
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 5: that or whyould you you know, want to get into that.

520
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 5: And you know, people who know me know that I'm

521
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 5: more of a talker than I might appear. You know,

522
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 5: a lot of people who are not around me see

523
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 5: me as you know, more quiet and more reserved. And

524
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 5: but you know, it's been it's been a good space

525
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 5: for me to be in, both personally because I'm able

526
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 5: to you know, express myself and talk about the game

527
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: I love, people get to see another side of me,

528
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: a different side of my personality, and also to having

529
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 5: guests on my teammates, being able to have some great

530
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: conversations and giving a platform to some amazing people and

531
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: friends of mine so that people can see them and

532
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 5: you know a different might as well too and humanize them.

533
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: You know, they always don't get the opportunity to do that,

534
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 5: and me as well too. And you know, to control

535
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: our own narrative as players, like you've been doing so

536
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 5: so great, you know, I feel like you being your teammate,

537
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 5: being able to get to know you and call you

538
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: a friend for these years definitely has had an influence

539
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 5: on me in that in that space and being more

540
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 5: brave and open to you know, express yourself and tell

541
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 5: people how you feel and not be not be bashful

542
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 5: about it, and you know, really control.

543
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,479
Speaker 2: Your own narrative.

544
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 5: Like it's hard as a player for you know, it's

545
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. We have to deal with social media,

546
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 5: we have to deal with Internet, and it's hard for

547
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: a player every time you go on the internet that

548
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 5: everybody is creating stories or has an opinion about you,

549
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: but you can't do anything about it.

550
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Besides, but now we can, you know, Now.

551
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: I can create a narrative, or I can create positive,

552
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 5: positive stories that I think people would be interested in

553
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 5: or find important. Or I can teach people to look

554
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: at the game of football in a different perspective that

555
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 5: I think is eye opening. Or somebody who's actually out

556
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: there playing and you know, versus someone else creating a

557
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 5: narrative that fans and other people or how how they

558
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 5: should perceive the game.

559
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's been fun. It's been been exciting

560
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: for me. I love it. I love it.

561
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 4: You've done such great job, and I really appreciate what

562
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 4: you said. It means a lot to me. But you've

563
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: done a phenomenal job. You've given your teammates a platform.

564
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: You've been it's been a cool way to watch you

565
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: embrace and allow your light to shine and allow your

566
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 4: light to liberate others to shine. And you've you've you're

567
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 4: always really well prepared, ask great questions. It's been really

568
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: impressive and I'm proud of you. Who is your dream guest?

569
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: My dream guest? Oh, that's an interesting question.

570
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: Well, have a few ideas for how the show can

571
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 5: kind of evolve and go.

572
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: I think.

573
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 5: The pod is going to change a little bit in

574
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 5: the off season, and you know, more in season is

575
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 5: you know, more game and and and teammates and real

576
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 5: football and.

577
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to evolve. I would love to

578
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: have an idea to to talk to.

579
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 5: A lot of a lot of the D linemen that

580
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 5: I grew up watching and and idolized. Definitely want to

581
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: get Julius Pepper's on the show. Yeah, he uh, you

582
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 5: know played Asphall in North Carolina, two sport athlete play

583
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 5: d N.

584
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: One of the best D linemen of all time ever.

585
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, I definitely definitely would love to love to

586
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: get him on.

587
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: And so that's one idea I have to talk to

588
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 5: to legends and learn the game from them, and then

589
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: also to I'm gonna start getting some some celebrity like

590
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 5: Niner fans on. Me and E forty have been going

591
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 5: back and forth trying to find a time for him

592
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: to get on and talk about football and uh Bay

593
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 5: area and and uh so yeah, I think, uh, I

594
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 5: think a lot of you know, a lot lot can

595
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 5: come from it. But yeah, those are those are a

596
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: couple of ideas I have really haven't I really haven't

597
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 5: thought about like dream dream guests though, So I definitely

598
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 5: have to, yeah, sit down and write that down and

599
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: make that, make that come to fruition because a.

600
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Lot of our dreams get realized.

601
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 4: Maybe you start talking and started talking it out coming,

602
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: it will be happening before you know it. Yeah, for sure,

603
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: I appreciate you joining me. I know it's your off day.

604
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: I know you got a busy week. This is a

605
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: big important game, and I know You've got a lot

606
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 4: of stuff to do. I appreciate you taking the time

607
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: out to talk to me. Good luck this week, have

608
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 4: a great game, and I'm here for you if you

609
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 4: ever need me.

610
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: All Right, No, appreciate you man.

611
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,479
Speaker 5: Always great uh to chop it up with you. I

612
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 5: know you're a busy man, but love what you're doing.

613
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: Always inspired by you. One of the best teammates I've

614
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 5: ever had. I love you, bro, I love you.

615
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: Too, brother. See you soon, man, I'll see you soon.