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Speaker 2: Welcome to Jenkins and Jones on the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, September twenty seventh, and we are talking about

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Speaker 2: the only thing that anyone in the NBA is talking

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Speaker 2: about right now, which is Matt Sullivan's blockbuster Rolling Stone

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Speaker 2: story detailing the anti vax movements pervasiveness in the NBA.

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Speaker 2: As always, Jenkins and Jones is hosted by my good

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Speaker 2: friends Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler Everboddy good Le, Jethro Jenkins

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Speaker 2: aka John was that Bubbas and I'm Guardie b a

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Speaker 2: k A. Mike. Here we are. We made it happy.

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Speaker 2: End of weekend. We all had a great weekend.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah.

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Speaker 1: I figured the less you're on Twitter, the better your

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Speaker 1: weekend is. And I feel like none of us will

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Speaker 1: on Twitter this weekend. Human ship, so good for us.

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Speaker 2: Man John is John is showered, He's He's baby showered

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Speaker 2: and Tyler. Tyler went on vacation and uh, I was working,

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Speaker 2: but I also got to see my son start his

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Speaker 2: first baseball game, so it was it was. There was

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Speaker 2: no not I don't think any twittering between the three

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Speaker 2: of us this weekend. It was delightful.

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Speaker 4: It was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: We're like woes since the Matt Sullivan story dropped, and

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Speaker 2: he was like, you know what, I'm gonna sit this one.

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Speaker 3: He knows what time it is.

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Speaker 2: He is not tweeted O the thing came out. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume that most people have seen some screenshots

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Speaker 2: that they know what we're talking about. But as I said,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be a little bit different episode because

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot This is the rare sports

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Speaker 2: about things that aren't just sports, and I think this

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Speaker 2: is a rare sports story that is like big enough

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Speaker 2: So that's kind of our plan. I've got the story up,

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Speaker 2: I will read a couple different passages of it and

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Speaker 2: we'll sort of talk about some of the different elements

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Speaker 2: of it. But essentially the story by Matt is about

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Speaker 2: with Kyrie Irvings sort of is the figurehead because he

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Speaker 2: is the vice president of the players Union. It's about

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Speaker 2: the ways that the anti vax players in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: which right now seems to be about ten percent of

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Speaker 2: the league, which is a larger amount than the other

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Speaker 2: professional sports league. The WNBA is ninety nine percent vaccinated

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Speaker 2: and has been the leader across all sports. The NFL

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Speaker 2: this group that's sort of been trying to keep more

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Speaker 2: during a meeting of the players Union last month, it

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Speaker 2: they were wanting to mandate that one hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: the league get mandated, mandated, get vaccinated, excuse me. And

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Speaker 2: it was said that it was quote a non starter,

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Speaker 2: non starter. And so Kyrie has kind of been at

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Speaker 2: the front of this. And Man Matt's got an interview

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Speaker 2: with Kyrie's aunt, Tiki Irving, who is effectively saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he might not play home games because in New York

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Speaker 2: and in San Francisco, there is a mandate that has

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Speaker 2: nothing to do with the NBA, that's just from the city.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins obviously had applied for religious exemption that the

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Speaker 2: city is not going to grant, and so here we are.

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Speaker 2: So before we jump into the specifics of it, what

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Speaker 2: t not being vaccinated, and just it's becoming increasingly clear

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Speaker 2: a big story as we get ready to head into

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Speaker 1: I think, first and foremost Andrew Wiggins getting denied his

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Speaker 1: religious claim as funny as hell, because how somebody tell

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Speaker 1: you that they know you don't fuck with God like that?

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Speaker 3: You know, Oh, God don't fuck with you? You know

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Speaker 3: what I mean?

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Speaker 5: One of the others, we don't know you, nigga, you

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Speaker 4: Nigga like that.

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Speaker 3: That nigga don't fuck with you like that? Come on, man,

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Speaker 3: God ain't never talked about your ass.

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Speaker 4: We're playing. Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's you know. Kyrie is an

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Speaker 1: interesting guy. He's someone who I feel at times gets

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Speaker 1: And you know, this feels like a ship storm that

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Speaker 1: we know we can't get the religious stipulation, but we're

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Speaker 1: you know, we've we've talked to people and we're leaning

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Speaker 4: So it seems like Kyrie is in this for the

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Speaker 1: And Kyrie is he's he's a dude who I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't see him.

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him bending on this. I think it's

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Speaker 1: it's either the nets are going to fold and just

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Speaker 1: home games in the playoffs, which is going to be

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Speaker 1: a bizarre. But it seems like Kyrie's batted down on

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Speaker 3: Man, what I think is wild. As you said that

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Speaker 3: Nigga was gonna retire at twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: I did.

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Speaker 5: I said, this is happening at twenty nine. This is

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Speaker 5: some Dragonfly Jones Stra Dominis sad shit right here.

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Speaker 2: You feel me Extra Domins strike this mall.

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Speaker 1: You know, I tweeted out that some shit like Yo,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie is a different dude. He's just gonna retire at

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Speaker 1: twenty nine one day. Just he's just not gonna come

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Speaker 1: to work one season and go to North Dakota and

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Speaker 1: be like an alpaca farmer. And he has, you know,

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Speaker 1: been embraced by you know, he's embraced his Siue roots,

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Speaker 1: like last summer they're in the Dakotas. If that shit

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Speaker 1: that I'm going out on top, like like if this

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Speaker 1: should have been in ninety eight game six.

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Speaker 5: I think everything's happened there, except I mean, like if

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Speaker 5: need to see him with an alpaka, Like I mean,

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Speaker 5: it's really close to that shit happened. The ol paka

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Speaker 5: is the X factor we see that, you know what

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Speaker 2: Like that, let me let me let me let me

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Speaker 2: read you this, uh this paragraph. Irving, who serves as

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Speaker 2: a vice president on the executive Committee of the Players

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Speaker 2: Union recently started following and liking Instagram posts from a

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist who claims that secret societies are implanting vaccines

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Speaker 2: in a plot to connect black people to a master

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Speaker 2: computer or quote a plan of Satan. This Maderna micro

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Speaker 2: chip misinformation campaign has spread across multiple NBA locker rooms

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Speaker 2: and group chats, according to several of the dozen plus

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Speaker 2: current players, Hall of Famers, league executives, arena workers, and

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Speaker 2: virologists interviewed for this story over the past week.

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Speaker 5: He would have fit right in, he saund like every

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Speaker 5: barber I've ever fucking had, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: barbers are keeping you to popular themselves, bro.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like that?

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Speaker 3: How how wild is that?

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Speaker 5: But what's wild to me too, is we when Kyrie

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Speaker 5: first hit us with the world is flat shit, you

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, like not a big deal

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Speaker 5: that is turned into this And I think, like how crazy?

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Speaker 3: Like that type of thinking?

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Speaker 5: How you know what is turning into now in this

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Speaker 5: situation when it's shit, ain't cool and it's not funny,

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Speaker 5: it ain't sweet and literal lives are at stake, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. But you know, by not you know,

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Speaker 5: living or existing within reality.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's wow. But Kyrie is leading this. You know.

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Speaker 2: I commented to Tyler before you hopped on, was it's

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Speaker 2: not funny to be fake smart in twenty twenty one?

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Speaker 2: The flat air shit is funny, right, you know, a

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Speaker 2: lot of those conspiracies is funny. This shit is killing people, literally,

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Speaker 2: the there's a CDC study in this article that's linked

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Speaker 2: Long Beach, most of my friends that I've lost to

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Speaker 2: two groups of people who, first of all are my

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Speaker 2: the least vaccinated. And so I struggle with it because

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Speaker 2: we all can sit here and roller eyes, including black

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Speaker 2: friends of mine who think that the vaccine is a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: We can all sit here and make fun of a

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Speaker 2: white dude from Huntington Beach who's waving a Trump flag

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Speaker 2: talking about Anthony Fauci and say that dude's a fucking idiot.

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Speaker 2: But Kyrie Irving is the same amount of not vaccinated

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Speaker 2: as that dude, right, Like, that's the unsolvable part of

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Speaker 2: this shit to me is it's the same problem, even

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Speaker 2: if you feel like it's he's against the vaccine for

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Speaker 2: a better reason than some dude from Huntington Beach, you

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Speaker 1: I just want to know how the fucking conspiracy theory

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Speaker 1: goddamn progressed to from from the government Michael Chip tracking

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Speaker 1: us to now fucking Satan is uploading our shit to

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Speaker 1: the cloud, bro, Like, how the fuck did that happen?

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Speaker 2: All conspiracy theories get to the Bible because it increases

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Speaker 2: your it's it's it's like up in the tempo on

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Speaker 2: a song. It increases your audience. If you throw Satan

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Speaker 2: or God in there, all of a sudden, you've accessed

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Speaker 2: a new demographic, right right.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I've seen a lot of responses from

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Speaker 4: That's jets journalism.

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Speaker 1: People who liking stuff on social media, we calling that journalism. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's we are. It's twenty twenty fucking one. Your social

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Speaker 1: media activity. If you are our celebrity. You know, if

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Speaker 1: you got twenty million fucking followers and you follow someone

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Speaker 1: and and you like their shit, your twenty million fucking

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Speaker 1: followers are gonna see your fucking name on that loony

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Speaker 1: shit if they go check that shit out, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, your shit is gonna pop up like

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Speaker 1: by Kyrie Irving. And Kyrie's a dude who you know,

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Speaker 1: he he throws rocks and hides his hands a lot.

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Speaker 1: You know that that's kind of is the shit that

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Speaker 1: he does. Like he had that comment, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not wearing my mask anymore, take yours off and

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Speaker 1: liberate yourself or whatever the fuck. And then he tried

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Speaker 1: to frame it like I'm talking about living freely or

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Speaker 1: whatever the fuck. First of all, you know, saying some

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Speaker 1: can't not know that that wouldn't be interpreted the way

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Speaker 1: he did. But he knew that he had that fucking

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Speaker 1: wiggle room did to have that bullshit. So like I said,

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Speaker 1: he those rocks and I just hands a lot, and

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Speaker 1: just following an account that fucking looney bro and liking

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Speaker 5: Thought Kyrie was a little kookie, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Know, and and and and then the people that you're

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Speaker 5: Like dude, the fucking like government officials that are trying

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Speaker 2: I just was gonna ask you, John I'm curious before

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Speaker 3: More than I love myself. You feel me? And so

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Speaker 1: Going back to what you said about you know how

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Speaker 1: Not coming from a place of genuine concern, like I said,

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Speaker 2: In I think, I think this is a perfect place

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between vaccine what they call vaccine hesitancy

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Speaker 4: I was to broin.

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Speaker 4: That it was deep.

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Speaker 2: who's more vulnerable than you. Whatever. Like, that's the problem

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Speaker 2: Was just it wasn't a hesitancy versus anti VAXX. It

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Speaker 2: but I think that's just worth talking about that again,

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Speaker 3: Do you not understand the fear? Though? Like lo, I

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Speaker 4: So we see the efficiency of the vaccine and that number.

436
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Speaker 1: I think that, like I said, I understood the hesitancy

437
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Speaker 1: at first, But I think if you're an open minded

438
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Speaker 1: person who was coming, you know from you know, from

439
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Speaker 1: that stance of hesitancy, from you know, a good will perspective,

440
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: not a bad faith argument. I perhaps should should be

441
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Speaker 1: swayed by what we've seen since the vaccines roll out.

442
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Speaker 2: I actually would. I'd even go further beyond that at

443
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 2: this point, because you brought up the stats in America.

444
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: Three point four billion human beings on the planet Earth

445
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 2: have been vaccinated at this point, and I just don't

446
00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,159
Speaker 2: see that not I don't. I can't imagine myself in

447
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 2: a brain where that information didn't mean something. I get

448
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: what you're saying about, Like I would not have wanted

449
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 2: to have been the first person to take it, but

450
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,479
Speaker 2: my mom was among the first group of people in

451
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,639
Speaker 2: her state to get it. And she called me and said,

452
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Speaker 2: I don't like how fast they put it together. Just

453
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 2: the vaccines that I took when I was a kid,

454
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: the vaccines you took took a long time. So I

455
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,719
Speaker 2: walked her through the science and all the other stuff.

456
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: I personally, as someone with two young kids who still

457
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Speaker 2: are not vaccinated, who we can't vaccinate still, who are

458
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: in school every day, I was in fear of the vaccine,

459
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 2: of the virus for a year before we could get

460
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Speaker 2: the vaccine. So I mean I literally cried tears of

461
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: relief when my wife and I got vaccinated that it

462
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 2: was like, we'll get through whatever else. I don't mind

463
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: being miserable for two years. I don't mind like whatever else.

464
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: But you know, we m a close friend of ours

465
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: who's a teacher in LA passed away from it, who's

466
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: not much older than us, And that's something that has

467
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 2: sat with me very heavily through this. She passed away

468
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: before the vaccine was out, So I mean we've lost

469
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: I have written eight obituaries of people in my city

470
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Speaker 2: who I knew personally who passed away from it, three

471
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: of whom were like very close friends of ours for

472
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 2: like more than a decade, So that fear was on

473
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 2: me all the time. Bro At the height of the

474
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: big surge that we had in Long Beach, I was

475
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: writing an obituary every week for an athlete, a former

476
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: athlete to coach, you know. And the poly football team

477
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: that I covered very closely when they got to play

478
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 2: their first football game, eight of the starting eleven dudes

479
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 2: on offense had lost a parent or a grandparent to COVID,

480
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 2: and people don't fucking talk about that on the like

481
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: fear side of it, or people say, take your mask off,

482
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Speaker 2: what are you afraid of? It's hard for me to

483
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: not be over the line angry at people who are

484
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: so callous to the literally hundreds of thousands of people

485
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: who've died. And we'll come around next to what Kareem

486
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 2: abdul Jabbar said. But one of the very salient points

487
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: he made is if Kyrie Irving caught COVID and had

488
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: bad symptoms, orf someone in his family did that, motherfucker's

489
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: doing what everyone else does. He's going straight to the

490
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 2: emergency room and he's gonna do every fucking thing they

491
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 2: tell him to do to try and live. And so

492
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: it's not cute to me to be fake smart and

493
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: buy into the conspiracy theories on the other side of

494
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: that event, You know what I mean. The sports equivalent

495
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: is just because the opponent missed an open shot doesn't

496
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: mean you played a good defense, right. The fact that

497
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: this has not affected you personally doesn't mean you did

498
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: anything fucking right. It's blind luck, it's probability and statistics

499
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 2: right out.

500
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, y'all know, I ran to get the vibe,

501
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 5: but I think I was in first vaccinated out of

502
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 5: all of us, you know what I mean.

503
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Speaker 3: Like, once the opportunity came and I each other links.

504
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 5: Right, I was like, Yo, my nigga, hit this up

505
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: real quick, you know what I mean?

506
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Speaker 2: Well, and I would again. I have a very small

507
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: company in Long Beach, but we didn't have a vaccine

508
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 2: mandate because we didn't need to mandate it. I personally

509
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: made the appointment for every single person who works with

510
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: me because we worked with kids. We're on the sidelines

511
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 2: on football games with eighty kids. Like I made sure

512
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: we were all vaccinated and not one person because we're

513
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: all so close to you know, like I said, people

514
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: have passed away. Not one person was like I need

515
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: to read the ingredients on the shot, you know.

516
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Speaker 5: But I just know people that I've talked to that

517
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: are my homies, and I'm like, yo, y'all need to

518
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 5: get fucking vaccinated, you know what I mean, Like that

519
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:53,360
Speaker 5: I'm on their head.

520
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm really worried about them.

521
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 5: But they have real fears about long term shit and

522
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 5: all that, and you know, I mean there's obviously they

523
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 5: have an idea of how it would affect this long

524
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 5: term and now we be Gucci.

525
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Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

526
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 3: But I mean they.

527
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 5: Don't have like actual evidence of that yet, you know,

528
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 5: because it's not been out long enough, you know what

529
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 5: I mean. So people that say things like that, I

530
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 5: get it, but I mean I still think it's you know,

531
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 5: like yo, man, just like you know, relaxed little get

532
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 5: to get the fucking vaccine, you know what I'm saying.

533
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: But I mean, I look, I feel bad. I do understand.

534
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: I do too. And let me ask you guys a question.

535
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: I've argued with a couple of white friends of mine

536
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: who are saying stupid shit about the vaccine. I don't

537
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: argue with my black friends or my Polynesian friends. I

538
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: have a lot of friends who who say stuff like

539
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: I have friends who probably follow the same ship.

540
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: That Kyrie does, Yeah for sure, But I don't feel like.

541
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: It's my place to say any of that ship to them,

542
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: because it's like, who the fuck am I man? You know,

543
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 2: right right right?

544
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: I mean you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel the

545
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 3: exact same way.

546
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: I know. I don't, I don't, I won't.

547
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: I don't argue, like I strongly like I'm like, yo, my.

548
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Speaker 5: Niggat, I mean, you know, say out of shit, and

549
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,360
Speaker 5: I'll be like, I get it, but get the fucking vaccine, bro,

550
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 5: like you know what I mean. And I'll bring up

551
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 5: the stats that like Tyler's talking about, you know what

552
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 5: I mean. I'm like, you know, so like, and I'll

553
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 5: send links to them and you know.

554
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: Hey, read this. You know, peep this, peep this, But

555
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 3: I do.

556
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: You're a puppet.

557
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: They're like John, and that's cool, that's cool, that's cool.

558
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 4: But I mean, I.

559
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 3: Like, I see the real fear in their eyes. Bro,

560
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 3: this ain't no like, you know what I mean.

561
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 5: And I understand that feeling, even if I think it

562
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 5: comes from a place that might not be the.

563
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: Most logical with all the ship that we've seen so far.

564
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, you know, like you said, I think

565
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: that you know, if it's if it's from a place

566
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: of fear or concern where where you know, being a

567
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: vaccine hesitating, if that's where it's sins from, I think

568
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: that's understandable. And I think that a person like that

569
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: can possibly be persuaded if they finds open enough. But

570
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you know, Kyrie and and and those types,

571
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: they're not coming.

572
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Speaker 3: He's not to be persuaded.

573
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Speaker 6: Bro.

574
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Speaker 3: He's not. He's never been to bet, he's never been

575
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 3: the person that's to be persuaded.

576
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.

577
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I don't think Kyrie is coming

578
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: from a place of concern for it for health. I

579
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: think he's coming from a place, like I said, he

580
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: wants to be the smarter than everyone on this. That's

581
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Speaker 1: the reason I get on that. I think I think

582
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Speaker 1: he's he's he's he's hearing out claims of Satan uploading

583
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Speaker 1: our infos in the cloud.

584
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Speaker 2: Bro.

585
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: That is not a genuine health concern man at all. No, No, no,

586
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: I think that.

587
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 5: I think I'm concerned about somebody who would think in

588
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 5: that way and trust that type of you know, type

589
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: of information that is given to you.

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630
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631
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632
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633
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Speaker 2: did this illegal fucking thing today, The New York Times

634
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: didn't know what to fucking do with that, because the

635
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 2: whole way it's structured is that journalists uncover things. And

636
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 2: if the dude just confesses to every bad thing he did,

637
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: what's the headline, Like the president said he did some

638
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: illegal shit again, Like, it's that same thing of like you,

639
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: people need it to a certain personality type needs it

640
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Speaker 2: to be they're the active force in acquiring the information,

641
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Speaker 2: whether it's the flat earth or what you know. I'm

642
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: not going to listen to doctor falsey or whatever the

643
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Speaker 2: folks is.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it comes back to you have to

645
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: have an unhealthy level of narcissism. Like I think all

646
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: athletes have a certain level of narcissm because you got

647
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: to think you the bad as some motherfuck in the

648
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: world to be a professional athlete, right, and you.

649
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: Have been until a certain point in your life almost guaranteed.

650
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 4: Right. But but but for you to think that.

651
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Speaker 1: There's been a global of the world's greatest medical minds

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Speaker 1: and the world's greatest medical technology, I think that you

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Speaker 1: found something that everyone overlooked by by clicking on the

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Speaker 1: thirty fourth page of YouTube of a YouTube search brow

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Speaker 1: the sheep.

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Speaker 2: The sheep stop at page thirty three, right, Only the

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Speaker 2: wolves are on page thirty four of the YouTube search.

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Speaker 6: It's not she can go to page thirty four, and

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Speaker 6: these niggas probably even know the word pandemic prior to

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Speaker 6: fucking March, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like, now all of a sudden, you know you're the epidemiologist, nigga,

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Speaker 5: you need to know to what the word pandemic meant

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Speaker 5: before March seventh and twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Nigga, you know what I'm saying. That's what's wild to me.

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Speaker 2: Like, come on, man, Page one through thirty three is

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Speaker 2: the grazing ground, Page thirty four, we hunt.

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Speaker 3: Page the lions work.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the best things Matt did in

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Speaker 2: this story is we do. I think we've just discussed

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Speaker 2: some of the complexities and different culties around this, and

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Speaker 2: we can all feel as strongly as we do that

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Speaker 2: the vaccine is safe whatever. But as we say, I'm

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Speaker 2: not I have a lot of any friends over it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to anyone saying you're you're an idiot

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Speaker 2: or anything, you know what I mean. Like people are

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Speaker 2: the way they are, There's a lot of complexity to that,

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Speaker 2: especially in a world where people are getting their own information.

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Speaker 2: So I thought the best thing Matt did is basically

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Speaker 2: to just call Kareem and be like, could you just

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Speaker 2: tell some very plain truth. Kareem is quoted twice in

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Speaker 2: this story. I thought it was the most powerful part

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Speaker 2: of the story. He said, quote, the NBA should insist

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Speaker 2: that all players in staff are vaccinated or remove them

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Speaker 2: from the team. There's no room for players who are

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Speaker 2: willing to risk the health and lives of their teammates,

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Speaker 2: the staff, and the fans simply because they're unable to

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Speaker 2: grasp the seriousness of the situation or do the necessary research.

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Speaker 2: What I find especially disingenuous about the vaccine deniers is

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Speaker 2: their arrogance at disbelieving immunology and other medical experts. Yet,

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Speaker 2: if their child was sick or they themselves needed emergency

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Speaker 2: medical treatment, how quickly would they do exactly what those

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Speaker 2: same experts told them to do?

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Speaker 5: Fact Jack, I mean, that's Kareem's who's that's what he

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Speaker 5: comes with.

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Speaker 3: You feel me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think I remember reading.

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Speaker 1: That the Warriors set up a one on one for

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Speaker 1: Andrew Wingers to speak with, you know, a doctor about

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Speaker 1: it and then to persuade himself. That's the question that

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Speaker 1: I have, you know, for the people who are against

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Speaker 1: this vaccine, what what is the question that you want

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Speaker 1: to answer, what answer would persuade you, you know what I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, and I don't.

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Speaker 1: And I think that is where you will find where

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Speaker 1: there's someone is genuinely vaccine hesitant or like I said,

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Speaker 1: if if they're just back smartest guy in the fucking narcissist.

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Speaker 2: The other quote from Kareem is uh In discussing you know, look,

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Speaker 2: the NBA is potentially going to go to Lebron, They're

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Speaker 2: potentially going to go to Giannis. They're going to ask

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Speaker 2: players to continue to help spread vaccine information not disinformation.

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Speaker 2: And Kareem, you know it's worth noting as it is

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Speaker 2: in the story that the NBA was the first lead.

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Speaker 2: They were the leaders among all sports leagues at bringing

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Speaker 2: sports back safely right with the bubble, and now they

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Speaker 2: find themselves behind everyone else because of this hesitancy. So

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Speaker 2: his quote, Kareem's quote was for athletes who declined to

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Speaker 2: help spread the word about vaccines. He said, quote, they

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Speaker 2: are failing to live up to the responsibilities that come

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Speaker 2: with celebrity. Athletes are under no obligation to be spokespersons

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Speaker 2: for the government, but this is a matter of public health.

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Speaker 2: By not encouraging their people to get the vaccine they're

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Speaker 2: contributing to these deaths. I'm also concerned about how this

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Speaker 2: perpetuates the stereotype of dumb jocks who are unable to

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Speaker 2: look at verified scientific evidence and each irrational conclusion.

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Speaker 3: Hery, that was low key a heater nigga.

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Speaker 5: He threw a fastball with that last niggas he on

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Speaker 5: them niggas heads with that dog. Motherfucker said, y'all niggas,

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Speaker 5: stopid you feel me? There's honest informationon and you just

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Speaker 5: out here being a dumb ass nigga. Dog in Layman's terms,

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Speaker 5: that's what he hit the motherfuckers with.

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Speaker 3: Dog.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking this is perpetuating the stereotype of dumb job nigga.

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Speaker 3: I think y'all niggas dumb nigga, stop it?

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Speaker 4: You feel me?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Did you guys see the screenshots of the Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Isaac portions of this?

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Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't see him.

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Speaker 2: If there is such a thing as a laugh in

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Speaker 2: this situation or story, it is Jonathan Isaac who was

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Speaker 2: sort of the player who was not kneeling or wearing

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Speaker 2: a Black Lives Matter shirt. If you remember that John

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Speaker 2: for the Magic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely remember that.

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Speaker 2: He is quote deeply religious and proudly unvaccinated. According to

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Speaker 2: the article quote. When NBA players started lining up for

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Speaker 2: shots in March, Isaac started studying Black history and watching

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's press conferences. He learned about antibody resistance and

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Speaker 2: came to distrust doctor Anthony Fauci. He looked out for

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Speaker 2: people who might die from the vaccine, and he put

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Speaker 2: faith in God. At the end of the day, it's people,

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Speaker 2: Isaac says, of the scientists developing vaccines, and you can't

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Speaker 2: always put your trust completely in people. He he basically

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Speaker 2: said that you know they're being bullied, the unvaccinator being bullied.

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Speaker 2: But our buddy Trill Withers seized on the detail that

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Speaker 2: came out that Jonathan Isaac had invited all of his

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Speaker 2: teammates on the Magic to come and see him preach UH,

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Speaker 2: and that one hundred percent of the team UH declined

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Speaker 2: to go and see him.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you know how much of a dickhead

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Speaker 1: you gotta be for people to not even support you

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Speaker 1: being a man of.

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Speaker 5: God like Black people bro like like we will will

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, We might not even if we.

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Speaker 3: Don't agree as a nigga that you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I still will pull up on some like, yo, this

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Speaker 5: is you know, you know, this is bigger than just

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Speaker 5: my beliefs off the strength you feel me And they like, Noah, Nigga.

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Speaker 3: West that we don't fuck with you asked you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Decision right there.

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Speaker 2: But damn bro Trull made the point, this was not

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Speaker 2: in uh Atlanta, this was in Orlando. Those players did

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Speaker 2: not have anything else to do.

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Speaker 3: Disney World and church that's all that exists in Orlando.

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Speaker 4: And they said, no, we going to Disney World, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But but but speaking of religion, enis Cancer had a

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Speaker 1: really good quote in that article.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to get to that mic, yes, okay,

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Speaker 4: well yeah I won't. Still you're done during.

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Speaker 2: That Oh no, no, no, I I was. I was right

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Speaker 2: about to read it next, but go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well well yeah, if you've got the actual quote there,

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Speaker 1: I think we should go. But every name mentioned was

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Speaker 1: like a roller coaster in the arc, like is this

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Speaker 1: motherfucker you know anti vacks, Like when Eniscanta popped, I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, no, is.

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Speaker 4: He gonna say some dumb shit? But he said some

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Speaker 4: very insightful ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it's cancer. So he's he's a

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Speaker 2: devout Muslim, very outspoken, and he it says he quote

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Speaker 2: senses a creep of the religious rite upon his workplace,

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Speaker 2: which just happens to involve players like Isaac sweating all

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Speaker 2: over him and yelling in his face. Quote if a

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Speaker 2: guy's not getting vaccinated because of his religion. I feel

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Speaker 2: like we are in a time where religion and science

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Speaker 2: have to go together. I've talked to a lot of

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Speaker 2: religious guys. I'm like, it saves people lives, So what

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Speaker 2: is more important than that?

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Speaker 1: If if if you're a defoutly religious person, I think

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Speaker 1: that that's that's probably rooted in you wanting to be

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Speaker 1: the best person you can be, fellow man, So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think Enis hit the nail on the head with.

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Speaker 2: That, and he would He's another dude who you feel

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Speaker 2: confident if he disagree, Like if he felt that the

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Speaker 2: opposite way, he would be just as out there with

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Speaker 2: the opposite opinion, you know what I mean. Yeah, But

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Speaker 2: I do think we're not necessarily seeing a lot of

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Speaker 2: people come out vehemently like yes people. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: interesting that the strongest people quoted for the vaccine in

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Speaker 2: the story are Kareem who has been retired for quite

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Speaker 2: some time, and it's cancer, you know, like I but

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Speaker 2: it's I don't know if it's because they don't want

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Speaker 2: to offend people or step on people's toes or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But we're definitely not seeing a lot of people make

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Speaker 2: the other argument, you know what I mean. It's like

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Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens at the NETS media availability.

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Speaker 2: That's going to happen Monday after the pod drops. But like,

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Speaker 2: the people who are making the anti vax argument seem

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Speaker 2: much more interested in making an argument, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, they want to be heard out, bro

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Speaker 1: because like said, smartest Anams and in the room complex.

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Speaker 2: So last question I have for you guys. We talked

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Speaker 2: about Andrew Wiggins. We're talking about Kyrie Irving. If things

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Speaker 2: continue as they currently are, Kyrie would not be able

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Speaker 2: to play home games. You would have to play in

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Speaker 2: cities where there is not a vaccine mandate. Same thing

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Speaker 2: with Andrew Wiggins. What do you make of that as

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Speaker 2: a basketball story? It's not far fetched that Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: could adopt that mandate as well, and we could be

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Speaker 2: talking about with the Lakers and potentially some very high

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Speaker 2: profile players, it's gonna be an interesting element of the season.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. What do you what do

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Speaker 2: you think about? That's not what anyone wants to talk

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Speaker 2: about with fucking basketball, obviously, but what do you what

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Speaker 2: do you think of that as a potential storyline for

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Speaker 2: this year?

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Speaker 1: I think if Wiggins, you know, stands firm on this,

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Speaker 1: he's getting traded. I think that's that's how that's that's

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Speaker 1: how his story. But like I said, you know, when

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Speaker 1: the when the story dropped, when Nick Wright broke the

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Speaker 1: news that Kyrie's camp has said that you know that

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Speaker 1: the Nets work, we're shopping him, kicking the tires on

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Speaker 1: the trade, on possible trades, and Kyrie notified the Nets

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Speaker 1: trade me.

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Speaker 4: I'm retiring, and I fully believe that.

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Speaker 1: So I think that that the Nets would have their

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Speaker 1: hands tied, and they would they were probably forty one

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Speaker 1: games of Kyrie is better than no games of Kyrie,

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Speaker 1: you know, regardless of how fucking wacky that ship.

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Speaker 2: Well, you made the you made the point because you

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Speaker 2: did believe that report, and you made the point before

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Speaker 2: you started recording that. In your opinion, that's probably what

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Speaker 2: this was. What that was about about them kicking the

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Speaker 2: tires on a trade, right, yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like like, you know, I texted y'all w when Nick Wright,

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Speaker 1: you know, broke the news and then Kyrie hit him

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Speaker 1: with the little puppet. I was like, I believe Nick.

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Speaker 1: I mean, for one, Nick's never been a fake sources dude.

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Speaker 1: And I was like this. I was like, Kyrie, you

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Speaker 1: third hour woke ass is probably not vaccinated. And then

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Speaker 1: that's a shopping them around because of the New York

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Speaker 1: City mandate. So and behold that's probably yeah, yeah, forty

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Speaker 1: one game, Kyrie, he should change his number to forty one.

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Speaker 1: Get on something, right, ship, bro, that's probably what we're

867
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna see this so fucking weird.

868
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: J'all describe the emotion that you're currently feeling.

869
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: We're never gonna get out of this ship, bro, never, never, never, Bro.

870
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 5: We're gonna be wearing masks for the next thirty fucking years,

871
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

872
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna keep.

873
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 5: We're gonna have motherfucking version Delta Delta nigga, Like we're

874
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 5: gonna go through the alphabet sixty six times, right, it's

875
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: gonna come like sororities, maternity. I was thinking about, like

876
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: we got we got the Lambdavaria. Now I'm like, nigga, shit,

877
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: give us about a year and a half, we're gonna

878
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 5: have fraternity fucking letters. Nigga, you know what I'm saying

879
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 5: when it comes to this. But anyway, bro, my emotions

880
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 5: are just I just it's like so rich, so much

881
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 5: like like we're they're sitting there, people sitting people down

882
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: with like epidemiologists, and they're still fighting it.

883
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

884
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 5: You have so much information at your fingertips, you know

885
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 5: what I mean, and you choose you know, Rashid Nahath

886
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: fucking X.

887
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: From fucking.

888
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 5: From the you know what I'm saying, the darks corners

889
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 5: of YouTube filming, you know what I mean, from the

890
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 5: fucking subway platform, Nigga, like you know, telling you all

891
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 5: the secrets of the fucking universe.

892
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: I just there's a there's an organized this hardening who

893
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: made this point after the Nicki Minaj tweet that you

894
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 2: know she got she thought it was an appointment at

895
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: the White House or whatever, but she got a phone

896
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: call from the CDC. Right, if you're a celebrity and

897
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: you say anything about the vaccine. Congratulations, you now get

898
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: to talk to one of the world's foremost fucking experts

899
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 2: on immunology and whatever else. And the organizer made the point,

900
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: He's like, I wish that non millionaires had the ability

901
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: to talk to those people, right, you.

902
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 5: Know, I wish there was doctor Falsey. It doesn't matter,

903
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 5: like how bad did we feel for doctor Fauci that

904
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 5: Nigga was just chilling doing his work on some you know,

905
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: regular shit. He's in front of the fucking you know

906
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 5: what I'm saying world now and not he's just what

907
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 5: he's dedicated his life to. He's giving you this information,

908
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 5: and he's like turned into a villain by so many people.

909
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think that Falci really gives

910
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: a He've got big You can't save everybody energy if

911
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: you if you you know, if you're gonna be an idiot,

912
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: then oh well you might fucking die.

913
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 5: But he's also getting death threats and it's probably trivolve himself,

915
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: like he's probably tripping off his family and shit, but

916
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: maybe on fan his family head and shit too.

917
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 3: Like Nigga, I'm just I'm just I just Nigga.

918
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 5: I've been over here being an epidemiologist for like fifty

919
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 5: years and was just chilling.

920
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: He on the first stage.

921
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 5: Now you know, the big lights on him, and everybody's

922
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 5: just hating him for doing what he knows to do best,

923
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, I think the best

924
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 5: way he can.

925
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: I think the tragedy for Fauci is he helped to

926
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,959
Speaker 2: build up a national system where we should be done

927
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: with this. That was his life's work, you know. And

928
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 2: so we got a vaccine fast tracked, developed, approved, tested,

929
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: approved out there, and you know, so that's the tragedy.

930
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: All.

931
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: He's like he could. He's like, he's like, we did

932
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: our work over here, like we got this small the

933
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: fucker to y'all, and y'all like, no, you know what

934
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm saying, trying to computer.

935
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: Right right, right.

936
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:15,479
Speaker 5: Right, But so saw we're live on ig and told

937
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 5: me all the secrets, nigga, you know what I'm saying, Like, but.

938
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: Let this fuck you up, because this is what my

939
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: friend who works in the Long Beach Health Department pointed out.

940
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: We got lucky with this virus. This virus is less

941
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: lethal than so many other viruses. It's less lethal than

942
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: the Spanish flu It's it's like a hundred times less

943
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: lethal than a bola. If this had been if this

944
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: had been something that was more like for all of

945
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: the anti vaxxer mask people will say like, oh, it's

946
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: only you know, two percent fatal or whatever. It's like, well,

947
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: guess what the whole fucking country has had it. So

948
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: if it was thirty percent fatal or whatever a bola is,

949
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: guess what we would be? Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck instead.

950
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,479
Speaker 3: Of just out of there, you know what I mean.

951
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: So, I mean like we dodged a bullet that this is,

952
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: you know, mostly fatal for older and more vulnerable people,

953
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: But they say, still hit us in the fucking chest.

954
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 5: But the thing is, they say, as things get more

955
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 5: you know, contagious, they usually get less strong. But delta

956
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 5: is the opposite where it got you know, it's more contagious,

957
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 5: and it's it hits you a little harder, you know

958
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 5: what I mean. So I ain't saying that delta very

959
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 5: in luck. But we I mean, we got lucky for sure,

960
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 5: wasn't it Ballers and ship like that, But that delta

961
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 5: very whooping our ass too?

962
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: Bro? You feel me like, I don't know, man, like this.

963
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: I don't know this ship.

964
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: It's like, like you said, doctor Fauci did everything could

965
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 5: it should be over.

966
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 3: It ain't and I don't think it is gonna be over.

967
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 5: And I think these are these are weird places where

968
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 5: in where people are like, you know, you have to

969
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 5: get this to work. You know what I'm saying. It's

970
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 5: it's unfortunate we're there, you know what I'm saying. I

971
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 5: didn't think it was I didn't. I didn't imagine it

972
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 5: would be this type of response to it. I didn't

973
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 5: even imagine it. I know there'd be questions, but not this,

974
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 5: like you know, like these people that are just anti

975
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 5: you know, getting the vaccine to the point they are

976
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 5: with all this information and with the information we know

977
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 5: about the deaths.

978
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: And all that shit too.

979
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 2: This is a this is a totally non basketball question.

980
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: But I'm just you both very creative minds, and so

981
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 2: I'm curious for your take on this. And this is

982
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: I think the last thing I have to talk about.

983
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: If you're the person who creates the Instagram that's fooling

984
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: people like Kyrie Irving into believing these conspiracy theories, what

985
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: is that person's incentive, Like, what is what is that

986
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: dude getting out of making this stuff up or taking

987
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: quotes out of context from studies and shit like you

988
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: know what I mean, I can see how Kyrie is

989
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: a fake smart dude would get tricked by Like Tyler said,

990
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm the smartest dude in the room. So I'm the

991
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: one who really knows the truth. But like someone made

992
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: that Instagram page, what are they getting out of it?

993
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 3: Kyrie's getting tricked by a Kyrie ass.

994
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: Nigga king not read right then that the people that

995
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: believe this shit fully believe, you know what I mean,

996
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 6: Like what they're saying, they're not Like, I don't think

997
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 6: people are I don't think a vaccinated person is coming

998
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 6: to YouTube and spreading this shit on some like you know,

999
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 6: this is gonna I don't think that I'm helming hit

1000
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 6: the lotty with this, you know what I mean?

1001
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: Like this is gonna get me the followers.

1002
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 5: And I don't think they're I think these people are

1003
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: really thinking they're heaving folks, you know what I mean. Like,

1004
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: I don't I think these I think they really do

1005
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 5: a ton of research come up with these wild shits,

1006
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 5: Like the people that tell me the like the Barbers,

1007
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 5: I went to came to me like they were.

1008
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 3: Like they weren't trying to play me.

1009
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, they gonna get my you know,

1010
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 5: forty dollars, fifty dollars whatever, shit, LA got some different

1011
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 5: price with Hare because god damn anyway they talking about

1012
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 5: seventy and eighty is shit some anyway whatever.

1013
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: Man.

1014
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 3: But uh but I don't think I.

1015
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 5: Think I still will get that same amount of money

1016
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: for you know what I'm saying, I think.

1017
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 3: They really think they're and that's scary. That's more scary

1018
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 3: to me.

1019
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, somebody that like really

1020
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 5: thinks are helping her are super you know, gung ho

1021
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: about this shit or very adamant, you know what I

1022
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: mean about their mess because they think it's true.

1023
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: Similar to Kyrie, Kyrie, Kry is not just trying to

1024
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: be smart. Carrie truly.

1025
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 5: I think Kyrie truly believes this shit. I think Kyrie

1026
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: truly believes this ship, you know, just but like you said,

1027
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 5: he throws his stones hot his hands. Similar to Hobby

1028
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 5: was like, you know, talking about flat everything, like I

1029
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: was just trying to get people to think, nah, nigga,

1030
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 5: you think the Earth is flat?

1031
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you're trying to spread

1032
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: you think.

1033
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: Something that's that's disprovable by just being in Kansas.

1034
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: Like right, right, we literally see that.

1035
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 2: You think something that's disprovable from a helicopter.

1036
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, like, like for the fucking million time,

1037
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it, it's a lot of these anti

1038
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: vaxxes broom syndrome because they never come from a place

1039
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: of concern for the vaccinator. It's never I'm so concerned

1040
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: about all these vaccinated people, you know, all all the

1041
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: things that will.

1042
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: Happen to them.

1043
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: It's, oh, you're vaccinated, you're a sheet. Why are you

1044
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: believing that? Why are you following? You know that the government?

1045
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 1: You're just gonna let the government do this to you.

1046
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: You don't know what the government it's. It's never from

1047
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: a place of concern for the vaccinator. It's always from

1048
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: a place of distancing themselves and elevating themselves and are

1049
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: trying to appear more smart vaccinated.

1050
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: I think people that's a great point.

1051
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 5: I think people approach things like that when they're trying

1052
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 5: to you know, conf when they are like Okay, for instance,

1053
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 5: like there's some people that I'll tell them I don't

1054
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 5: believe in God, never responding, you know, I believe in

1055
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:44,280
Speaker 5: a higher power.

1056
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: I don't believe in like a particular religion.

1057
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 5: People from their religion will respond respond a particular way

1058
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 5: similar to that same way because they're un comfort you know.

1059
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 5: I think a lot of that comes from like them

1060
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 5: being uncomfortable with themselves and their own beliefs to a degree,

1061
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I feel like a

1062
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 5: lot of people respond to the same way when you

1063
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 5: talk about the vaccine is like it's a you're like,

1064
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 5: it's it's it's it's it's like damning their belief you

1065
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, or like, you know, just because

1066
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 5: I'm into the vaccine, they respond that way because they feel,

1067
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 5: you know, they have some discomfort about their own beliefs

1068
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: as well.

1069
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 3: I don't think people are just like I'm smarter than you.

1070
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 5: I mean, there's certain people like that, but I think

1071
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 5: a lot of people aren't that way, you know what

1072
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 5: I mean, that have that.

1073
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 3: Responding that way.

1074
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 5: It's just this is a very like this is a

1075
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 5: wild situation that a lot of us never could have

1076
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 5: imagined us being in. And even with all the information

1077
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, It's still scary.

1078
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: But Tyler makes a good point though, because just as

1079
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter if you're unvaccinated for

1080
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 2: the right reasons or not, Like the virus does not

1081
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: care about your No, I'm not saying it does, but no,

1082
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: but I would just say it's it's interesting because the

1083
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: misinformation thing is the same way. Right, Like everyone at

1084
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 2: Fox News got got vaccinated in like last fucking March,

1085
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: Like Donald Trump was like the fourth person on planet

1086
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Earth to get the vaccine, right.

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Speaker 5: Like, that's that I'm saying. That's That's what I said.

1088
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 5: That's part of what trip y'all start seeing these people

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00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 5: get vaccinated.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's an extra level of cynicism when it's

1091
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: like you got vaccinated the moment, the second you could

1092
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: get vaccinated, and you're going on television five nights a

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00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: week to tell people.

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00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: I don't think most people are on some sh No,

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00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: I agree, It's just like it's just that there is

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00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: that extra level of cynical and ultimately, whether you're vaccinated,

1098
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 2: whether you're unvaccinated for the right or wrong reason, or

1099
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: whether you're spreading misinformation for cynical or non cynical reasons.

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00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: It's all killing people for sure. That's the that's the

1101
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: fucking problem. And that's why I appreciate a Kareem statement

1102
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: that was like, like, we have a plenty of smart

1103
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: people in this country. We all know the fucking deal,

1104
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: and like, we don't need to pretend that we don't

1105
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: know the deal to be nice to people.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Like, I mean, we've we've the whole you know, Hey,

1108
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: let's just you know, respect people's you know, opinions on this.

1109
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: I might just have to start calling motherfucker's.

1110
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 3: Dumb, you know what I mean, Let's give that a go.

1111
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, maybe that will will fucking turn the tide

1112
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: to baby who the fuck knows.

1113
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 5: So we'll see, right right, So we'll see how they

1114
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: react to that, you feel.

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00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: Uh, Booker, Boys of the Week, I'm gonna give to

1116
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 2: us for talking about this for an hour and super

1117
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: depressing ourselves in order to come back on Thursday's episode

1118
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: to finish our depressing book about the history of slavery.

1119
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: We are not having a very enjoyable fall run up

1120
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: to the basketball season, and uh, I'm gonna go read

1121
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: some jokes from Vincent's joke book that he just got

1122
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: from the library or something. I don't know.

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00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's we need the season kick back up, man,

1124
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: we need some joy. Yeah, we need to see. Like

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Speaker 3: I said, I think fear comes into a lot of these.

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00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 5: People's decision making and that's unfortunate. Think it's cloud in

1127
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 5: a lot of people's minds. I don't think people are

1128
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 5: just fucking you know, I don't.

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00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 3: Think people have like, no bad intentions. A lot of

1130
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: people don't.

1131
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe, but maybe, you know, maybe I'm

1132
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 5: just I'm not. Maybe I'm naive to how fucking crazy

1133
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 5: this world is, how crazy people can truly be.

1134
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 2: I think the Fox News motherfuckers have bad fucking intentions.

1135
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: And I'm not, like I said, like I mentioned the

1136
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 2: dude from Hunting Beach, I'm not friends with those people,

1137
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 2: so it's easier for me to be like fuck them.

1138
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: But the barbershop, I can't really say fu fuck that

1139
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 2: to that conversation. The problem is the virus is not

1140
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 2: a cultural phenomenon, although our culture is complicating it. It's

1141
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 2: a biological phenomenon, and I don't know who's lungs. The

1142
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 2: delta variant developed in but it doesn't matter why they

1143
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: were not vaccinated or what, you know. I mean, I

1144
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 2: think it came from Indian, Like they probably weren't vaccinated

1145
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: because we are hogging all the vaccines in this country

1146
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: to set them aside for people who don't want them. Right,

1147
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: But like that's the problem is as long as we

1148
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: are unvaccinated, it is more likely that another variant that

1149
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 2: is worse will develop. Like that's the that's where whether

1150
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 2: it's comfortable or appropriate or inappropriate whatever to do it

1151
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: or not. It's not a question of fear or cynicism

1152
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: or whatever else. Like it's a question of numbers and biology,

1153
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: and like we don't see ourselves that way because we

1154
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 2: see all these other aspects of our identities and everything

1155
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: as being more important. But like that's the virus does

1156
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: not give a fuck whether they're fearful or not.

1157
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 5: It's just as dangerous. You know, I'm saying for them

1158
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 5: to be moving around. Yeah, but I think I just

1159
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 5: I just think it's important to you know, point out it.

1160
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: Everybody's not coming from a place of like you know

1161
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 5: what I mean, you know, where they're trying to fool people.

1162
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 5: I think they truly believe it's some people think they're

1163
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: helping and that's actually scary. But it's scary to me honestly,

1164
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 5: because I mean, if you think, think somebody, if these

1165
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 5: dudes really believe this shit, how are we truly going

1166
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 5: to you know, convinced, you know what I mean, Like

1167
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 5: how you know, like they they're not you know, they're

1168
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 5: not just they're not Fox News guys. There's people that

1169
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 5: are trying to they're trying to save people, you know

1170
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 5: what I mean.

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 2: So have fun with that, Adam Silver, get back to

1172
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 2: us on how to solve that.

1173
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: You don't know, he ain't got the answers, Nigga, he

1174
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 5: gonna be up all he gonna be up for like

1175
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 5: six seven days straight trying to figure this shit.

1176
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: Out, getting paid a lot of money to figure it out,

1177
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: right right, It's like it's it's like I was talking to,

1178
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: like I said, my friend who works in the health

1179
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 2: department Lung Beach. You didn't mean to get into the

1180
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: business of schools and offices and sports, but you're in

1181
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: that business now, Like everything is everyone's business now. It's

1182
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: just the fucking world we're living in, all right. That's

1183
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones for the UH for this episode. Thank

1184
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 2: you for sticking with us. We'll be back. Like I said,

1185
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 2: please finish. If you're doing the book club with us,

1186
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: go ahead and finish. How the word has passed. We'll

1187
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: be talking about that on Thursday, and uh, I hope

1188
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: usually this podcast I think is the fun funny thing

1189
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: people do on Monday. So find your joy and tell.

1190
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 3: Us what it was so we find enjoying somewhere else.

1191
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing when you talk about COVID, Nigga, sheesh, I'm

1192
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 3: so tired of talking about this motherfucker. God damn, you

1193
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

1194
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 5: Like I mean, we we've really been in this situation

1195
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 5: for how long, Nigga?

1196
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: Like for real, bro for like you know what I'm saying,

1197
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: Like this was. This was like the.

1198
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 5: When we were first talking about it, like June July,

1199
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 5: even the beginning of twenty twenty one was like the

1200
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 5: worst case scenario.

1201
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: Nigga, just strap in. We're gonna be here for a minute.

1202
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: My playing gonna be.

1203
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a wild ride, you feel me.

1204
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: God damn, I'm real little bye again.

1205
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: What m