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Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 2: They holler about time. That's what they told me. You

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Speaker 2: I'm pushing Hella flash. I'm working wheels, cracking seals, breaking pros. Back,

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Speaker 2: never change. I can't be Hollywood. I'm way too country. Plus,

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Speaker 2: Third Colds. Now what you know about it? I keep

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Speaker 2: I picked a perfect frame, never tricking on these days

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Speaker 2: for frame from being laying. Hey, welcome to the Blackouts

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Speaker 2: podcast host Rod ed Karren. We're in the house on

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Speaker 2: a Saturday with your feedback m This is the episode

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Speaker 2: where we talk about all the stuff that you guys

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Speaker 2: read your five star reviews on iTunes and stitching, and

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Speaker 2: They they put five on it, and you know, because

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Speaker 2: we read their names. Okay, And this is only for

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Speaker 2: Premium is different. And there's too many of y'all to

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Speaker 2: be doing this every week, So let's talk about the

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Speaker 2: And somebody left a comment. It was kind of late,

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Speaker 2: Christmas Hawaii, says Nick, You and I are soulmates. I too,

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Speaker 2: have it. Hannah says the music for White People News

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Speaker 2: you really never know who's listening to the show trying

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Speaker 2: like your show. You guys make me laugh. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: But listening to this episode was just a surreal experience.

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Speaker 3: Oh thank you sweet, Like you said, you don't never know,

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Speaker 2: I feel like, that's official confirmation that definitely was a

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Speaker 2: Or I didn't see the first one yet? So someone

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Speaker 2: Didn't see the first one yet? Yes and no. Fifty

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Speaker 2: We had episode thirteen eighty one. We have a man,

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Speaker 2: Michelle says, Rod as a trinidaddy, and your story about

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Speaker 2: common misconcession in the Trinidad and Tobago uh is that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, du I mean some people are just one striking

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Speaker 2: who's funny? Kevin Hart, George Lopez and Nick Cannon? Who

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Speaker 2: She probably think she probably think he funny. Let me

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Speaker 2: why we don't watch the Grammys. Wow, twelve comments, y'all?

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Speaker 2: Y'all was feeling this episode. Yeah, so we just basically

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Speaker 5: That?

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Speaker 2: Uh that that that white man was racist? Fuck he's

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Speaker 3: No codes off, flock off.

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Speaker 2: Whatait till y'all hear the update tomorrow. But I guess, uh, well,

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Speaker 2: abs are gonna be ripped. But good luck, Paula. We're

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't feel sorry about that, dude at all.

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Speaker 2: Best episode was snapped, ever.

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Speaker 3: It's coming. I'll keep my out for that one.

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Speaker 2: You and Karen kept at one hundred about these award shows,

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Speaker 2: Maxwell puns. Thank you both so much for keeping me

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Speaker 2: do it because I don't want to feel any pressure

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Speaker 2: to come back. And you know, and a lot of

434
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: people have been getting the flu and stuff lately. I

435
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: don't know, Shot, I don't know if it's changes in uh,

436
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: these rapid fluctuations in temperature.

437
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Speaker 5: And Steve's here one day then thirty and next, I

438
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 5: don't know what the hell was happening.

439
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah either, white man, you know, you know, I hope

440
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: I'll just waiting nobody to feel better. So, you know,

441
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: we were thinking about maybe doing it today at five,

442
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: but I text her this morning. I told her I

443
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Speaker 2: would check on her and see if she was up

444
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 2: to it, and if she's not, then you know, we'll

445
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: just keep moving it until she's ready. But we have

446
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: all y'all's feedback in and everything, so we are gonna

447
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: still plan on doing the show like normal and reading

448
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: everything and you know how we do, guys, But I

449
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 2: just want to make sure she's up to it. Uh

450
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 2: Amani says, Now, I agree with you on a lot,

451
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: but I'm surprised at how intolerant you are being on

452
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: this Maxwell thing. Yes, all colors matter. Look at Master Splindid.

453
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 2: He was a brown man and he adopted four green

454
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 2: babies who weren't his own and raised them by himself.

455
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: Or how about pinoki Yo, a green man with the

456
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 2: best black single in the universe taking care of other

457
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: people's kids. And did we talk about apocalypse the first Mutant? No,

458
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: this proud Egyptian king is ignored because the people like

459
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: you refusing to acknowledge Blue History Month. Enough is enough,

460
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: and that's not even mentioning Karen using the f N

461
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: word on air, shameful. I already forgot what the FN

462
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: word was. Was it fig Newtons? I don't know what

463
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 2: Karen said, I forgot. Fireworks says I always choked on

464
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Speaker 2: my red I almost fake news. Oh oh god, you

465
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 2: said it again. I can't believe. I can't believe you

466
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Speaker 2: would say something like that in this care Yes, m

467
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: you know, we got a show here that we run

468
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: that's inclusive for people. We don't sit around saying.

469
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Speaker 3: Stuff like that anative effects.

470
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Speaker 2: I'm just you're just gonna go at all the FN Americans.

471
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Speaker 2: Huh yep, okay, okay, mm hmmm. Fireworks says always almost

472
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: choked on my red bull when you said the KKK

473
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Feller died? Then start playing celebration, follow by your comments

474
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: about white folks. You ride are the sire of sarcasm

475
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: and I love it. Great show is always brother, Uh

476
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: thank you, It says, ps fuck that dude talking about Walker.

477
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 2: I don't blame you. Uh, And he also writes are

478
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 2: they also right in? I don't know if fireworks as

479
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: a man or woman? Uh, dear white people. Segment got

480
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: me so upset all of a sudden, white folks so

481
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 2: but heard over shit like, come on, don't play victim.

482
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: It's okay for your ship to fly towards other coaches

483
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: and nationalities, but let the shoe be on the other

484
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 2: foot in this white outrage. One hundred, one hundred, one hundred.

485
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Christina m says, Hey, Rod and Queen Cairen, I had

486
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Speaker 2: to come speak some punkin spice Latte. Shout out to

487
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: Karen Ah on how your yell story relates to white

488
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: people news. From a while ago, y'all had read a

489
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: story about some folks from a Bravo reality show called

490
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: Southern Charm. It had something to do with Thomas, Jennifer

491
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: and Catherine and a baby and something or another and

492
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: what's who's its anyway, Catherine from that show is a

493
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: distant relevant the relative from John Calhoun whose name got

494
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: scratched off the Yell building. In a way, it's partly

495
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: why I have had a hard time trying to watch

496
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: that show and eventually couldn't many there's too many lavish

497
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: events happening on plantations where it's no big deal to them.

498
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: There was little to nothing said in condolences for those

499
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: that were murdered in the church a few years ago.

500
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: Mind you, this is their own backyard. As a matter

501
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: of fact, one of the cast members was complaining about

502
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: being locked in a bowler dolly when the shooting happened,

503
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: rather than being remotely concerned about the victims. Then, hearing

504
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: about the Calhoun family and seeing Catherine's tweets glorified Trump

505
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 2: made me go Bravo is canceled. M that is some

506
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: hot hots punkin spice, Lotte, you just spilled all over.

507
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 2: You are kicking the cheese off the table, putting the

508
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: cherry on top with some really dark Knight says, I

509
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: gotta chime in here. When you had the lead up

510
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: to that radio house talking about Walker, I thought I

511
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: was prepared to hear. I was not ready. I was

512
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 2: in the gym. I almost dropped some weight on myself.

513
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: He was big mad. Paula writs in again one more comment.

514
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: The last person used to use a major award show

515
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: to decline in the war and bring awareness to something

516
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 2: that needed awareness was Marlon Brando in nineteen seventy fucking

517
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: three when he refused the Best Actor Oscar to protest

518
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: the treatment of American Indians. Unfortunately, not much has changed,

519
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: as it it would have been insanely amazing to see Adele,

520
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: one of the world's biggest recording stars, refuse her reward.

521
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what would she be missing in her life

522
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: to have done that? And what could have been the game?

523
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: Don't don't these people have any vision for crying out

524
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: loud as opposed to aren't they being artists?

525
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 6: And all?

526
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: Imagine the conversations that could have started. Imagine she had

527
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: called it like it is and said that Beyonce created

528
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 2: a work that will be talked about for hundreds of

529
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: years because of its importance. Adele's on grandkids won't remember

530
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: twenty five. Yeah, I mean, like I said, I don't

531
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: expect that, and I don't. I don't knock anyone for

532
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: not doing it, to be honest, because it's so much

533
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: to tell someone that their work shouldn't have been appreciated,

534
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Because like I can't like the sweat hours that Adele

535
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: puts into her career and into this album, into this tour.

536
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: I can't tell her you need to recognize Beyonce is

537
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: more important than you, And I think that's why the

538
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: shit always will succeeded, because no one ever wants to

539
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: get off the podium themselves, you know, like if it's

540
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: for like For instance, let's say we got invited to

541
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Speaker 2: be on a panel and the panel was gonna be

542
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Speaker 2: all men, and they didn't invite Karen. I'm not going

543
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Well, it might be a

544
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: promotion from like, oh, this would be good for your brand,

545
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 2: it'd be good for the black out tips and whatever's

546
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: good for you, it's also good for Karen. If Karen

547
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: can't be there and it's only gonna be men represented,

548
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: then what's the point of me being there?

549
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

550
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Like it's kind of that thing where it's like somebody

551
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: has to be willing to give up their seat, you know,

552
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: or you know, can Karen go instead of me, or

553
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: something like that. If only one of us can be

554
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: up there, and there's already a bunch of men on

555
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Speaker 2: the panel, why can't Karen be up there. When we

556
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: went to speak in Miami Revocon, it was very important

557
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: to me that Karen got to say, got to get

558
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: her you know, her talking, because to be honest, there's

559
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 2: already five men on the stage. You know, there's not

560
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: much that I'm gonna say that's that much different from

561
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 2: the other guys, And it's important to hear Karen's voice

562
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: and a woman's voice up there, you know. So it's

563
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: that a thing where like I don't expect the world

564
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: to work like that, to be honest, and I don't

565
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: knock anyone for not having the foresight to think like

566
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: that or being like I don't want to sacrifice my

567
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: career for that or whatever at the end, at the

568
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: end result for Grammys, Grammys don't matter as much as say,

569
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: like oscars do when it comes to like being made.

570
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, even with oscars,

571
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: I don't think oscars matter as much for black people

572
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 2: as they matter for white people, which is fucked up

573
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: just because that's how racism works. Is well, yeah, you

574
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: want an Oscar like you got Oscar nominated, But I

575
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: don't want to be watching all these black movies, So

576
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna pay money to see your shit, even

577
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: though you're the same got the same respect as your

578
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 2: other colleagues. So you know, I don't expect the THELL

579
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: to do it. I just think it would be like

580
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: so epic, and I think that would be the thing

581
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: that would make me excited about an award show, as

582
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: if I saw somebody do something like that. But you know,

583
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: I understand what that what the Grammys are at this point,

584
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: so I can't really, you know, get upset about it.

585
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: But I'm old enough from seeing enough.

586
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: Wyo, it is what it is, and just check out,

587
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 5: Like for my self sanity and self perservation, I'll just

588
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 5: check out and be like, well, Twitter the in and

589
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: of to tell me afterwards.

590
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've seen Adele's accepting speech by now, and

591
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: it's great, you know, I saw it. It was I mean,

592
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: it's if anything, it was almost too differential to Beyonce,

593
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: Like it was so nice, like it was almost like

594
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: please be hive. I hear y'all out that buzz and

595
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: don't come for me. I love Beyonce too, and we

596
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: all know she should have won. And that's you know,

597
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: like I said, I I don't know how anybody could.

598
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: Well.

599
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: Actually, I saw a couple of people that were like

600
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: cause she was like, I have Black Friends and that

601
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: was their album basically, and people was like, oh, so

602
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: you got black Friends. I'm like, nah, man, Adele ain't

603
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: the problem. The problem is systemic, you know. The problem,

604
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: Like the problem with her award is that and the

605
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: only reason if I was heard it, I would feel

606
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: somewhat bad about it. Is an award that has that

607
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: racial prejudice component to it, ain't really an award.

608
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: You know.

609
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: It's like winning a baseball it's like winning a championship

610
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: a world series in baseball before they allow black people

611
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: to play, you know, where it's like, yeah, I won.

612
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: But.

613
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: Did I really did my competition get a fair look?

614
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: Or did y'all just get a shit to me because

615
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: you refuse to give it to them, Because if that's

616
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: the case, then it's not really it's like you you

617
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: really have disrespected everyone in the process. You disrespected me

618
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: because people will always look at my award this year

619
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: for this album as an award I shouldn't have got.

620
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: And then you'll have people that you know, like now

621
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: it's tainting it, you know, as opposed to if people

622
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: felt that this institution had a historical he had a

623
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: history of getting it right, I think people would just

624
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, that's who, that's what the best album

625
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 2: that year was. But it's that it's gonna be a

626
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: bunch of speculation and she may feel bad about it

627
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

628
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 5: So yeah, and also like and just just me on

629
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 5: the outside looking in, I said, I'm not a I've

630
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: heard that twenty one.

631
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: I rock with twenty one. I hadn't really sat down

632
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 3: listening to twenty five.

633
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 5: But people who I know and did our Adele fans,

634
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: a lot of them are like, yeah, twenty five weren't

635
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 5: that good. Competed twenty one and it wasn't better than

636
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 5: Beyonce's album, So you know, it just varies.

637
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Beyonce made a very specific album for black women,

638
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: which is a risk in itself, and I can understand

639
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: why white people didn't get it. I mean, shit, it's

640
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: like when we find out all this stuff about Oscar

641
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 2: voters like and what they really think behind the scenes anonymously,

642
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, there's a lot of racism here

643
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 2: for a liberal Hollywood situation, And you know, I wouldn't

644
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: be shocked there's some of that offense that was taken

645
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: to Beyonce's album, like in her black panther stuff and

646
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 2: her militant drowning the cop car video, and shit, I

647
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised. There was some Grammy people that are like,

648
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: I'm not fucking with this, because one thing that I

649
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 2: find interesting is when people start talking about this stuff,

650
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: they start getting into this like aesthetic value of albums

651
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: as if we all agree. And you know, because I'm

652
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: very much understanding how subjective people are about entertainment, I

653
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: think that that part is not really worth getting into

654
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: because it's like, well, was this album better than that album?

655
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: You can find one hundred people, not everybody's gonna agree.

656
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: So now what you know, what I mean, like, what

657
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: people are really saying is that these these awards are

658
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: about achievement, whether it's through sales, whether it's through vision,

659
00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: whether it's through changing the game, whether it's through career recognition.

660
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: You know, they do that, and people just feel like

661
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: it's her time. Man, Like, at least for the last

662
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: three albums, she's put out something with everybody in the

663
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: world was rocking to it, and she's like one of

664
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: the biggest stars in the world, and just on a

665
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: dice roll, it just never happens to come up for her.

666
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: And right that's where flat it's just flat racism when

667
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 5: it comes to a lot of that shit. But like

668
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: I said, you know, and it's no shade for Adele,

669
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 5: but all the shade towards Beck, I don't give a

670
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 5: fuck about Beck. I'm I am more upset about last year,

671
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: last time, than this time, just for a simple fact

672
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 5: that nobody knew the average person.

673
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 3: If you act the average person on the street about Beck, unless.

674
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 5: You are heavily into music or you're a big or

675
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 5: a big fan of Beck, you had no idea who

676
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: the fuck he was. People need to stop pretending that

677
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: everybody in their mama knew who the Beck, who the

678
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: hell Beck was?

679
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 3: And Beck was the household name he was not.

680
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's get it to the next comment.

681
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: Even he says, I was kind of upset to hear

682
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: that KKK Grand Wizard was only shot. It doesn't sound

683
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: like it was painful enough to a payful enough death.

684
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: Fuck that guy. I'm happy he's gone. And if that

685
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: makes me a bad person for say it, oh well

686
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 2: I just I'll just own it. Yeah, I don't feel

687
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: bad about it, So fuck them. I don't know why

688
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to feel bad about a person that want

689
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: me dead and gone. Were you surprised? But y'all say

690
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 2: didn't win the Grammy Yes or No? Twenty was surprised

691
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: at seven percent? Was like nah, Eve, he says. Y'all say,

692
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: is carefree, black woman and successful. She represents everything in

693
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 2: the white supremacy hates. They would never give her Best

694
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: Album award, especially if she could tease being so pro black. Yeah,

695
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: it's just as a black artist in that industry, it

696
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: just sucks because it's like your work just doesn't get

697
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: the respect. You know, like you're gonna win some urban awards,

698
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: but they just ain't trying to give you ask like

699
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: the awards where you can be with white people. It's like, nah, dog,

700
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: not so fast.

701
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 3: And the thing is that we talked about before when.

702
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: You shifted and changed how the industry and how consumers

703
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 5: consume music.

704
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: You've shifted and you've changed how albums are presented. Like

705
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: you've changed.

706
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 5: Every album you come up with some new ship that

707
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 5: everybody tries to mimic and everybody tries to coffee, and

708
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 5: not one time did somebody go, hey dog, everybody, you know,

709
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 5: what she's doing is revolutionary.

710
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: She needs to be rewarded for it.

711
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 5: And a lot of times when you reward people sometimes

712
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 5: it quote unquote don't mean you need to be the best.

713
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 3: And that's something that people don't want to admit either.

714
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 3: And I think for when we're.

715
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 5: Talking about the Oscars, oscars will do this, they'll they'll

716
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 5: snub you for some shit. Then eventually they'll be like, oh,

717
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 5: here's your reward for some shit that you really wouldn't

718
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 5: that good at.

719
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: But we snubbed you.

720
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 3: Three have three three years ago. You don't get that here.

721
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: Nobody ever goes back and be like, hey, we snubbed

722
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: you for.

723
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 5: Your last two records to three records. Okay, here's your

724
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 5: fifth record, here's your re what.

725
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: Nope, they're gonna keep snubbing you.

726
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes they do. But it's like the shit that

727
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: it takes to win. It's like I read an article

728
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: the other day that said, to be black and win

729
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: a Grammy Album of the Year, you pretty much have

730
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: to make the album of a decade, right, Like you

731
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: gotta get Like, I mean, the people they went down

732
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: a list of all the winners and shit, and it's

733
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: like all those people that won, it was like they

734
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 2: just had to have certain circumstances that went by, you know,

735
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: and not you know, not everybody gonna get it. It's

736
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 2: just very hard as opposed to just a white person

737
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 2: just make something that people jamm into for a year

738
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: and boom, you got it. It's that simple. We had

739
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: Episode thirteen eighty three, the Honorable Professor Osirius Muhammad about

740
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: Nick Cannon, Big One says, great shows all week. This

741
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: episode was so good. I felt like I was a church.

742
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: Wanted to yell, I preach, please don't ever stop speaking

743
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: up for black folks and other marginalized and our humanity.

744
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: Roder Carrey, y'all are invited to the Liberian barbecue. Ah,

745
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: thank you, Big One, thank you. I never had Liberian barbecue.

746
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: Pot Looking says as usual. I loved everything about this episode,

747
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: the discussion that stemmed out of the wind. I realized

748
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: I was black videos on the fucking with black people.

749
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,919
Speaker 2: It's something we all identify with. I had mostly black

750
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: teachers until high school and had the worst head writing

751
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: on the man Curse. It was the worst. Those teachers

752
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: took the time to dissect my writing and see my

753
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: intelligence and continue to give me advanced work. They ended

754
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: up double promoted me. This would not have happened in

755
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: another environment. Yeah, my sister yep. When my youngest sister

756
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: went to school, she had mostly white teachers and we

757
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 2: as a family, were heavily involved in her education. We

758
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 2: even had to switch her schools because the teachers wanted

759
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: to railroad her and place her on track with the

760
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: bad children quote unquote, because she stood up for herself

761
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: throughout her time in school, we had to remain active

762
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: and visit the school to let them know we had

763
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: our eyes on them.

764
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: Right, And man, that's it's sad that you have to

765
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 5: show your back, your pure black ass before they go,

766
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: oh okay, we can't railroad you and an eventually they

767
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 5: gonna leave that child alone because we don't want to

768
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 5: do what their parents come up here raised insane.

769
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the best part I like about that is, uh,

770
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: they they saw her standing up for herself as being bad, right,

771
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: you know, like where we have strong willed independent whenever

772
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: we want to say something positive about you know, a

773
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: child that stands up yeah yeah yeah I'm not yeah yeah,

774
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't even trying to get in, but yes, that too.

775
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: We try to like throw like we throw in like

776
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: positive spins towards it. But then when it's like a

777
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: black kid or what, then it's the fiant you know

778
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: what I mean, aggressive ship like that where it's like

779
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: all you might be saying is well, I that's not

780
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: my desk and I want to sit there with it.

781
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: I want to sit up front. I just said, well,

782
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: I tell you know what, time out. You know, it's

783
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: just the the the the fuse is much shorter when

784
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: it comes to black kids. It's just like, all right,

785
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 2: you going, You're going to punishment now. Mister Knight says,

786
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: I really want to know how to vote for her

787
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: to stay out of uniform when I'm voting, don't get

788
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: in uniform. Please let me off off of the plane.

789
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh the pilot who got on and gave a speech

790
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: about should I put on my uniform and or do

791
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: y'all vote that I can uh do y'all vote that

792
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 2: I can fly my jagging pants because I'm going through

793
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: some things. MONI says, y'all called it. Somebody better run

794
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: you these coins because the black houtil stays knowing that's

795
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: the Reverend Nick Young Nick Cannon. Now, yeah, actually it's

796
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: worse than that. It's Reverend doctor Nick cannons fast. So like,

797
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: I saw that shit last night in my eyes got

798
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 2: big as Keenan playing Steph Harvey. I was like this nigga, really,

799
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: like I can't even make a joke without it happening.

800
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling he gonna meet with Trump next.

801
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: That's your checklist?

802
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh my God, after this next semester at Howard, he's

803
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: probably gonna demand you put the doctor in front of

804
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: that too. Oh he already did. And I do genuinely

805
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: want to thank you for that conversation from fucking with

806
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: black people, just to have the space to go through

807
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: all of that. It's so dope, and the point about

808
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 2: the generational advantage of whiteness is real. I remember the

809
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: moment it hit me. Growing up. I've been at all

810
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: black schools and neighborhoods my whole life until we moved

811
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: into high school and the new spot was still mostly

812
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: black for all the upper level in advanced class. I

813
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: was in there, maybe ninety to ninety slash ten white

814
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: from the experience, obviously not strictly on merit, but when

815
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: we had career day, I was regurgitating the same shit

816
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: I've been saying since five. I could see myself as

817
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: a doctor or a lawyer. When the white girl after

818
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 2: me said she was gonna be a marine biologist and

819
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: had asked for her mom about setting up the internships

820
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: and shit. Both my parents worked teacher and machinists, and

821
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: I was better off than a lot of kids I

822
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 2: knew growing up. But I had never ever even imagined

823
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: the level of specificity when it came to a career.

824
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Before then, she was already setting up the groundwork to

825
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: get in position for jobs I had heard in passing

826
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: but never conceptualized. I kept going and where I had

827
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: spent my summers work at two or three jobs in

828
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: the marrow. They had been working on their dash thennis

829
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: office of their mom's marketing company. Academically, I was probably

830
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: top five in the class, so I knew I could

831
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: keep up. But it hit me I was already behind

832
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: and getting the next step towards the career and the future. Yep, yep,

833
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: a thing about internships.

834
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: Then, motherfuckers, he's free.

835
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 5: Most people go, I cannot work for free, just I

836
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: cannot dedicate a fucking entire summer for nothing. I cannot

837
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 5: do this without one, and you compensate me. You got

838
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 5: to compensate me for my time. The motherfuckers are free.

839
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: So when your parents have established where they can afford

840
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: to send you to Washington, DC or LA or whatever,

841
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 5: the internship takes you anywhere in the world.

842
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: You can get.

843
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: Hundreds, sometimes thousands of hours, which a lot of times

844
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 5: start at a very very very young age. So a

845
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 5: lot of times by the time they get to the

846
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 5: twelfth grade, they you know, depend on how much time

847
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 5: and effort.

848
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: Has been invested. Sometimes they have hundreds of thousands of hours.

849
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 5: And in the field and the career, you know, you

850
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 5: have to dedicate so much time to various different things.

851
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: They've mixed all that shit out and no time, got

852
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,720
Speaker 5: that paperwork readit, people sign for it. They got family

853
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 5: members to sign off on shit. So yeah, yeah, like

854
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: you said, sometimes it's the thing where you go. Education

855
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 5: alone sometimes just doesn't cut it when you're blacks in

856
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 5: certain situations, which is completely unfair.

857
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, just think about this. Internships is, like you said,

858
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 2: most of the time unpaid, if paid at all, it's

859
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: normally underpaid. So being able to do an internship normally

860
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: requires a level of privilege where you have somebody taking

861
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: care of your bills, someone that knows, someone that can

862
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 2: even get you these exclusive internships. Think about their industries

863
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: and internships operate in fashion, the media, whether it's magazine,

864
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: print media, internet media. Many of those start with free,

865
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: unpaid internships. Music, Hollywood, like you know, entertainment, most importantly, politics,

866
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: a lot of political interns. That's one of the reasons

867
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: that these industries stay like very very white at the

868
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: top is because most of the time you're not gonna

869
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: have black kids whose parents have the wherewithal or be

870
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: able to sustain them while they go and spend hours

871
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: and hours and hours doing the thankless job where they

872
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: never get paid for it. And it's so it's one

873
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: of those things where I think people don't think about

874
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: that stuff, but it's definitely a privilege to be able

875
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: to do that. But people but then those same people

876
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: will be able to turn around one day and when

877
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: some black person's like, yeah things are hard because of

878
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: this that this, they'll say, well, I had an internship

879
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: and I wasn't making any money and look at me,

880
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm the CEO, And it's like, who paid for your

881
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: rent when you were making nothing?

882
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 3: Around the world?

883
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, who sent you? How'd you eat? Who sent you

884
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: money to eat? Like, you know, it's just nobody wants

885
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 2: to hear that shit. Everybody thinks their story is the hardest.

886
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: H the poe was when you watch The Bachelorette now

887
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 2: that they have a black woman, yes, no? Or you

888
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: mean the bed witch lotokle ret brother, oh lord. Fourteen

889
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: point six percent of y'all said, you mean the bed Witch,

890
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: little ret brother. Seventeen percent, Yeah, yeah, you're gonna start

891
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: watching it now, and sixty eight percent said Nope, still

892
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: not gonna watch the Bachelorette even with a black woman.

893
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna listen to Nick and you tell me

894
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: all about it.

895
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: It's still interesting, though, because that's a pretty like seventeen percent.

896
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: If you can get seventeen percent of people that hadn't

897
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: been watching it to watch it, you know, black people,

898
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: to watch it now, they'll be interesting. It'd also be

899
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: interesting to see what percentage of a white audience would

900
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: turn out to not be interested in having a black

901
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: bachelorette come.

902
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: You know.

903
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: And the last episode was just recap of Walking Dead

904
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: when we have our man Jeremy from Crown to College

905
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: podcast on episode thirteen eighty four, the Long Hair Don't

906
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: Care Gang, and we got one comment. D Ramsey pH

907
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: Done says the Van Jones are the Walking Dead equal

908
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Morgan Jones? Yes, I agree with you Karen and Jeremy

909
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,959
Speaker 2: about the haters and know it all or the Walking Dead. Sure,

910
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: the show doesn't always do things just like the book.

911
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Carol is already dead and Andrew still live, yet I

912
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: still watch the show. Keep up the reviews of the

913
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: walking down hashtag Rosita doing too much this episode. She

914
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: really was doing too much. We got one voicemail and

915
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 2: we play that, then we'll get to the emails as

916
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: soon as the voicemail want to play, and it doesn't

917
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 2: want to play. Oh why are you hating my voicemail?

918
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: What's going on?

919
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: Guys? I don't know.

920
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 2: Let me try going into Skype and see if I

921
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: could play it directly from there, because I was trying

922
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: to play it through. Pamela says disconnected, trying to connect.

923
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, Skype might need to be rebooted. All right,

924
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 2: give me one second.

925
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: One.

926
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: It's like, you know what, you ain't rebooting me? And why? Yeah?

927
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: All right, I'll try.

928
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: And you know how they do it every other minute,

929
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Speaker 3: it's a damn update.

930
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: Give me one second.

931
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: Oh mm, be like, do you got the news update?

932
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: You got the news updates? Should? I just went it

933
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: five minutes ago? That's all right? We got no updates?

934
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: Oh man?

935
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm?

936
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: Where the sky Oh there it is, Nope, that's not

937
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: the right one. Try this sad one. Okay, there it

938
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: is near the top. All right, let me ended in

939
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 2: bring it back, and well might as well en penula

940
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: and bring it back.

941
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: Mm hm.

942
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: Ah, damn it, I clicked the wrong thing. Hold uh,

943
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: brought up Twitter like that just because of the same

944
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: color blue.

945
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 3: I mean there is that you can play in there,

946
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: but not the same.

947
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: Alright, well, you know how skype is. It'll take a

948
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: couple of hours to be back up restart mm hmm,

949
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: all right, let me see. I'll try reading the emails

950
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: until it comes back up. That'll probably be better. All right,

951
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 2: here we go, give her some of this dead air.

952
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: Gail rights he and peeps. Hey, word up, y'all, it's

953
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: Gail Marie. Okay, I'll confess it's me. I'm one of

954
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 2: those people that's letting peeps cook, even in this anti

955
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: candy corn climate. The secret of enjoying peeps is not

956
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 2: expect not expecting them to taste like food. Peeps aren't

957
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 2: supposed to taste like food, just like mountain dew. Is

958
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: it supposed to taste like yellow soda died mountain dew

959
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 2: and peeps taste like science die. Mountain dew tastes like

960
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: citric acid as part as spartanme and vegetable oil. Asertainment,

961
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: vegetable oil and peas test like synthetic marshmallows and food color.

962
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: The thing candy corn defenders will tell you is that

963
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: if you buy the right branch, traditional candy corners actually

964
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: honey based, okay, honey based candy that was completely different

965
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 2: texture to the other high fruit tests cornser based candies

966
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: that most people are used to, and it's just a

967
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 2: different mouthfeel and crappy candy corns are trying to replicate

968
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: the honey flavor with the corncer which obviously never works.

969
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: I've eaten both kinds and I can see wherever coms from,

970
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: but most people can't tell the difference. So it's fucking moot.

971
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Just eat your multicolored triangles in peace and stop trying

972
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: to convert folks. I'm not gonna make those kind of

973
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 2: excuses for my peeps. Peeps are an insult to marshmallow

974
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: and based candy, and kind of like moon pies are

975
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 2: insult to pee pies, to the point where they're their

976
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 2: own genre of food science all together. Regular peeps taste

977
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 2: like that super synthetic, super potent food dye you get

978
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: in a cheap grocery store bakery cupcake. Icing, and most

979
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: people who like them just have feelings of nostalgia. I

980
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: will say this, though recently, the peas people have diversified

981
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 2: and gone from just reshaping peeps across the holidays to

982
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: different flavors. There are still the birds and bunnies of Easter,

983
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: the black casts and ghost of Halloween, and the hearts

984
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: of Valentine's Day. They're also making seasonal flavors now, like

985
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: caramel apple and the falls terest screams in the spring

986
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 2: and hot chocolate in the winter. It's the same texture

987
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 2: as an Eastern peak, but the flavors are malder and

988
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: less synthetic. Now. When I say less synthetic, I'm not

989
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: talking about real marshmallows. This is more like difference between

990
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 2: die coke and coke zero. Neither one tastes like actual coke. Still,

991
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 2: as a person who occasionally really likes science scientifically engineered

992
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 2: food products, seasonal peeps on my jam and those blue

993
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: raspberry the store eggs they made around Jurassic World were

994
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 2: pretty close to any other blue raspberry bomination. I like them.

995
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're good. I'm saying I like them.

996
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: Last thought, I cringe that ride eating the kit castright across,

997
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: but who are me to judge. I eat all the

998
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: chocolate off the sides of mine, just like nick Jee

999
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: and I do with Reesis, and then eat the Rafers

1000
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 2: last kit cast or another candy that does season those

1001
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: in different markets, and the cherry blossom spring and green

1002
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 2: tea year round from Japan are super good. I've even

1003
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: had a orange vanilla a few times and that was amazing,

1004
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 2: like a dreamsickle. In other words, I'll try almost any

1005
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: candy at least once, and that's probably how I had

1006
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: my brush with pre diabetes. Oops. Love y'all, Gail Marie.

1007
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: This is an excellent email. Thank you. It was very informative.

1008
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: Let me see it's back up. Let me see if

1009
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: I can play this from directly from Skype because Pamela

1010
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: was tripping there and Charen.

1011
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 1: It's Stephanie. This my first term coloring. I've been listening

1012
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: for sometime and I am actually timing myself so that

1013
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I make sure I get three minutes. So I am

1014
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: in the middle of listening to your podcast from yesterday,

1015
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 1: so it made me want to call.

1016
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 6: Regarding the Grammys, I'm in a rough place in that

1017
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 6: because I actually am a very very large Adele fan,

1018
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 6: and I'm sorry, twenty five was the amazing album. I

1019
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 6: am not a Beyonce stan, I'm a fan, but.

1020
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm a fan, and I have to say Lemonade changed

1021
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 1: my whole thoughts about Beyonce because for me, it was

1022
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: like the first complete album I had ever heard. Lemonade

1023
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: is a complete album. It takes you on a journey,

1024
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: which is what a very good album should do. The

1025
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: last time I felt this way about an album was actually, ironically,

1026
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: the Miseducation of Lauren Hill. It was kind of like

1027
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: that was a complete album, and so is Lemonade. So

1028
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: to not see it good album of the year over

1029
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: twenty five, it's just thing where you go. But I

1030
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: really like Adele and I really like twenty five. It

1031
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: wasn't better than Lemonade, and everybody knows it. So as

1032
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: a black woman watching award show, there's always this thing of, well,

1033
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: I know, y'all not gonna give it to the black

1034
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: woman anyway, even though she's the best one there. Even

1035
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: though people tuned in, even if they hate Beyonce, they

1036
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: tune in just to watch her, just to hate on her.

1037
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 1: Other people tune in to love her, but they just

1038
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: tune in to hate because they're just hateful people.

1039
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 6: I feel that way every time I watch the Grammy

1040
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 6: and there are black people nominated end the big category

1041
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 6: album record and songs, where I'm like, God, I don't

1042
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 6: know if it's gonna go to them, and you just

1043
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 6: expect this. I think that's the problem with big award

1044
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 6: show like the OS and the Grammy's work. You're like,

1045
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 6: you can have this abundance of black dominies and you

1046
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 6: just kind of go, but they're probably not gonna give

1047
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 6: it to them anyway, because that's just how this works.

1048
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 6: And I'm glad to have this show where I could

1049
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 6: hear someone reflect how I feel, even if it's not

1050
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 6: exactly how I feel, it's kind of like, yeah, that's

1051
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 6: kind of how I feel about these things. So thank

1052
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 6: you so much for the show. I really enjoy it,

1053
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 6: and you guys have definitely inspired me to do my

1054
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 6: own podcast.

1055
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 2: So thank you, love you guys, bye, oh, thank you,

1056
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: and yeah, man, yeah yeah I can't. Obviously, no one

1057
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: can voice exactly how anybody else feels. But you know,

1058
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: I think a lot of black people are frustrated with

1059
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: the you know, these award shows and stuff, and like

1060
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: I said. For me, I've kind of given up. I

1061
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: just don't watch them. You know, it really was the

1062
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 2: vine providence that they show they had to be honesite

1063
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: performers right before The Walking Dead, because if that shit

1064
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 2: would have been after nine, I would have probably had

1065
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 2: to catch it on YouTube or something.

1066
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: Man.

1067
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: But but yeah, it's you know, at the same time,

1068
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 2: like I don't blame people, and I don't come down

1069
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 2: on people for being upset about things not working out

1070
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: their way. I mean, are black people not allowed to

1071
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 2: be fans? Are we not allowed to root for things?

1072
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: Are we not allowed to root for you know, somebody

1073
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: that made an album for black people? Like if sometimes

1074
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: it feels like that way, you know, when people are like,

1075
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 2: well what you expect? Why you care? You worry about

1076
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 2: these white people awards? And I don't want to be

1077
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: another voice joining that course because I feel like that

1078
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: course is just as fucked up as the white people

1079
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: who are Actually it's like, so your thing is to

1080
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: defend the decisions that white supremacy makes, Like I don't

1081
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: understand what the point is, and like how we endo

1082
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: this together? Why do you think your way is better

1083
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: for everybody? This idea of like just give up, don't

1084
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: worry about it, don't try, like, you know, yeah, and

1085
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 2: then the end of the day, man like people just

1086
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: like that enough to think it should win. I don't

1087
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 2: know why I gotta be so fucking complicated for some

1088
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: of this stuff, you know, like people just liked it better.

1089
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: You know, people don't Maybe they didn't even listen to Adele.

1090
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: Maybe they're not Adele fans. I don't know. I don't

1091
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 2: have a mean thing to say about Adele. I don't think,

1092
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 2: you know, some of the shit I've seen people try

1093
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 2: to like turning into some battle between Adele or talk

1094
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 2: shit about her. I have nothing bad to say about

1095
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: that one for me, you know, Like, I don't understand

1096
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 2: why it's gotta be that. I don't have anything bad

1097
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: to say about Rihanna. I don't think, you know, I

1098
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: h Anderson pot a chance to rapp her. Like people

1099
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: always got some kind of mean thing to say about people.

1100
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: I don't have anything mean to say about these people.

1101
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: Just you know, I wish Beyonce would have one that's

1102
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: really about it, you know. Yeah, all right, let's get

1103
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: to uh some more of these voicemails. We get here,

1104
00:59:53,920 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 2: Episode thirteen eighty two. Yeah, I mean okay, no, we

1105
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: do have one voice. Sorry, Episode thirteen eighty two. Yeah,

1106
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: changing the racist name of the building high Rod of Care.

1107
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: I've learned so much from your show. One might think

1108
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: that being a brown immigrant woman I know and or

1109
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 2: experience racism, but as an Asian in La, I kind

1110
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: of get a past. Listening to your show has over

1111
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: my eyes to every day byes that black people have

1112
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: to go I have to put up with. Yeah, you

1113
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: know that's like my friend Chris, he's aging man. It's

1114
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 2: funny because model minority racism is different. Yes, it is

1115
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: so like certain shit rolls off Chris's back because it's

1116
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: not like his reality and the impact on his life

1117
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: of racism is just a different result than mine. Like, ultimately,

1118
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, white people feel like Asian people

1119
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: are better than them, to a certain extent, like they

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01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: don't really think, you know, you steal some kind of

1121
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: brown right, But it's very much like a well, yeah,

1122
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: they're smarter than us, they work hard, there's all this

1123
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 2: positive shit.

1124
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 3: It's a certain of tolerance that they wouldn't deal.

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01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: With, right, but they steal other those people. They still

1126
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: talk down these people. They still like you know, I've

1127
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: been around when Chris and I are out or something,

1128
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: they might try to break into some like fucked up

1129
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: broken English accent. Chris speaks perfect, like he's not. I

1130
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 2: don't even think he speaks Chinese honestly, but like they'll

1131
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: be like that's funny, you know, like like what we're doing, uh,

1132
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 2: fancy football draft and it's his turn to pick, and

1133
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: he picks so and so, and then they'll have somebody

1134
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 2: be like, you know, broken English accent and make a

1135
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 2: joke and to you know, I'll be looking at him like, uh,

1136
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 2: you want to ride on these foods? Because I got

1137
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: your back. We can like if you want to cuss

1138
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers out, like let me know, I'm not trying

1139
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: to fuck up the flow, fuck up the party. But

1140
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, I know if I made a pick and

1141
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers you know, start sagging their pants talk about

1142
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: give me motherfucker Ton Brummel, I'll be like, the fuck

1143
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 2: is so funny, you know, right, So, but but it's

1144
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: just different, you know what I mean. I mean, but

1145
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: he still had certain things come out where it's like, oh,

1146
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: you know they're saying this ignorant shit because you're Asian

1147
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: and you know sometimes, you know, most of the time

1148
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 2: he can just let it go because, like I said,

1149
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: his experience is a little bit different, but yeah, it's

1150
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: still there. But that's you know, why it's important to

1151
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: listen to other people man, you know.

1152
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 5: And that's why I listened to a lot of NPR

1153
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 5: and they've actually talked about Asian Americans getting it's particularly

1154
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 5: their children getting involved in Black Lives Matter and the

1155
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: parents now understanding why the children are fighting and defending

1156
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter, because you know, it's a separation there,

1157
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 5: and they go, well, why are you defending something?

1158
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 3: Or why do you care about people that are not us?

1159
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: You know, we had that Asian police officer that shot

1160
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 2: a black person, and that was a very visible rift

1161
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: in the community because you had a lot of Asian

1162
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: people that were like, why doesn't white prip that protects

1163
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 2: police officers who shoot unarmed black people, Why doesn't that

1164
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: extend to this officer. Why isn't art the police protecting him?

1165
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 2: And they had a point. They weren't. It was clearly

1166
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 2: because he wasn't white. But at the same time, that's

1167
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 2: also the opposite of what black people in that situation

1168
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 2: wanted because we were like, we just want some accountability

1169
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: from the police. It doesn't matter it could be a

1170
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 2: black person that shooes him. No one should be marching

1171
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 2: in defense of the officer who shot an unarmed black person,

1172
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: like you took a person's life. That's a complicated issue

1173
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 2: and it's you know, all this shit. But it's one

1174
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 2: of the reasons that I think it's beneficial to listening

1175
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: to other people because you can at least have that

1176
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: perspective of like, oh, because you know, I definitely went

1177
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: out and read like some other takes on it from

1178
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: Asian people to be like, well, what the fuck are

1179
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 2: y'all marching for? Because I don't understand how y'all can't

1180
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: see that this is wrong to support this man, And hey,

1181
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: y'all can't see that some of the defenses y'all have

1182
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: for this man are the same level of anti It's

1183
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: almost like, well, a black life ain't worth much, so

1184
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: what the fuck are y'all watching for? Why can't he

1185
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 2: just kill black people too? And it was interesting to

1186
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: kind of see their point of cause I do understand

1187
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: that point. It's double racism. It's racist, Like how I

1188
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: say about like I know, I said as a joke,

1189
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: But I'm serious, racism be racist even during the execution

1190
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: of racism, like a black person saying the same shit

1191
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: doesn't get the same like Stacey Dash doesn't necessarily get

1192
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: to go on real time with Bill Marvel malo Yellanapolis.

1193
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: Will you know what I mean? That kind of shit

1194
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 2: where it's like even in that case, you know, like

1195
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 2: certain people are gonna lose their jobs and get filtered

1196
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: out while being racist. I think that's a very real thing,

1197
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, And I think while there's something to be

1198
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: said there, for a lot of us, it's like I

1199
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: just don't care, Like I don't care the Stacey Dash

1200
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: lost her job and other people that promote racism got promotions.

1201
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: I don't care, like you're all bad to me. And

1202
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: that's the same thing with that agent officer they shot

1203
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 2: the black person. I don't care like and I wouldn't

1204
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 2: care if you were black. I wouldn't care if you

1205
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 2: do that man's brother, you gotta go to jail, like

1206
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 2: you can't be out here just killing people and getting

1207
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 2: away with it. And at the same time, it's fucked

1208
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 2: up that they just left that dude out to dry

1209
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 2: like all the public, like all the defense they have,

1210
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: all the unions and shit, they always they didn't give

1211
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 2: a fuck. They was just like Friday's nigga, get him

1212
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: out of here, by y'all happy. Yet black people shut up,

1213
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 2: we did it, and we're like, you're only doing it

1214
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: because he ain't white anyway. So she goes on to say,

1215
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: listen to your shows over my eyes about every day

1216
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: bs that black people have to put up with. I

1217
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 2: knew that I was that it was fucked up that

1218
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: we still had schools that with these racist names, but

1219
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: I never heard the personal account told from a black

1220
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: person's perspective of having a walk down those halls every

1221
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 2: damn day, the daily slight and intimidation, knowing the institution

1222
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: you were attending was complicit and upholding the ideas of slavery.

1223
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: It was just another light bulb going off about the

1224
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: daily little digs black people have to suck up that

1225
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: I had no fucking idea about. I don't know how

1226
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: the hell y'all do it. That's why I'm so down

1227
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: happy that the two of y'all are thriving and doing well.

1228
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,080
Speaker 2: I love seeing any of all joy that black people have,

1229
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 2: because fuck, that's this shit. Anyways, thanks for sharing yourselves.

1230
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: Best married, Thanks Mary.

1231
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1232
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the other thing, I mean, shit, Asian people

1233
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 2: had to go through it too, tournament camps. You know, Like,

1234
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 2: like I said, it's it's a little bit different for

1235
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: other people's experience in America because for black people in

1236
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,320
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, we've had to either reconnect or

1237
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 2: make up our culture. You know, like even with like

1238
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: Asian Americans, Like they were supposed to quote unquote lock

1239
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: up Japanese people, but come on, you know, they were

1240
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: locking everybody. You know, they was locking up everybody, dog.

1241
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 3: Like generations of people that died in the tournament.

1242
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: Camps, right, Like, it's very I don't know, it's very

1243
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: hard not to imagine that they were like, oh you

1244
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: said Korea, I guess it's okay. Oh you said China, okay.

1245
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 2: I feel like they was probably like, yeah, I don't care,

1246
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: y'all look saying to me going in the camp and that,

1247
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 2: And that was an order that was issued by Franklin D. Roosevelt.

1248
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: Frankly D. Roosevelt still got schools, you know what I mean.

1249
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm sure he's on the halls and the

1250
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 2: walk ways and shit, it's just about If you know

1251
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: your history, then you know you may have even had

1252
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: to deal with this at some point. You may have

1253
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: been in a school or institution or building name after

1254
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: the dude that was like, I don't know, they look

1255
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 2: shifted to me, you know what I mean, Like you

1256
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: just never know what this. You know you got some

1257
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: wheel this. But thank you for right now, Mary, thank

1258
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: you baby. Let's see. Allegra A says hello again Roder Karen.

1259
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: I had to stop writing in the midst of the

1260
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: discussion you two had about the mis education of black kids.

1261
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: I am in my early forties and I decided three

1262
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: years ago to go to school for nursing. I've been

1263
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 2: in and out of various community colleges for the last

1264
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: twenty years. Without getting into my life story, I want

1265
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 2: to tell you too that you have helped me a

1266
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 2: lot with with uh oh, with the struggles I've experienced

1267
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 2: as a black woman. The discussion, the discussion about how

1268
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 2: black heads are filtered through quote unquote the system is

1269
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 2: one that is very nuanced, and I appreciate you having it.

1270
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 2: I always beat myself up for not having quote unquote

1271
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 2: figured this shit out until age forty, But you saying

1272
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: that we don't know, we don't know. What we don't

1273
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: know solidifies while we as a group, and me in particular,

1274
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: has such a hard time. I know I'm smart, but

1275
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 2: I still have doubt because information is not always accessible

1276
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 2: to us. I came from a poor family in a

1277
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: small town, so I did not know how to move

1278
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: forward or how to get outside influences that will help

1279
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 2: me move forward. It's still a struggle today, but now

1280
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: I'm grown, I have somewhat of a voice yo on

1281
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: some real shit. That is why net neutrality and internet

1282
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:15,600
Speaker 2: access is really like, in my opinion, like even to

1283
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: some extent, maybe even prioritize over racial shit. It's like

1284
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: the next thing because one of the biggest equalizers that

1285
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 2: we have is access to the Internet, because that's one

1286
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 2: of the ways you can find out what the fuck

1287
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 2: you don't know, because somebody else has asked that question,

1288
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 2: somebody else has gone through that thing, someone else has

1289
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: had that issue, and someone else found an answer, and

1290
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 2: it's right there on the fucking Internet. But if you

1291
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 2: don't have the Internet, if you don't have a computer,

1292
01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: if you don't have access to it, if your internet

1293
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: is slow and janki and spotty and shits right, Like

1294
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff that people can do that's

1295
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: amazing that they can learn from the Internet, that they

1296
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 2: are learned on the Internet and stuff like that. And

1297
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: you know, it just seems to me like there's opportunities

1298
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: that they're making the world. I don't mean it's like cariery,

1299
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: but it's making the world flatter, you know, it's making

1300
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 2: the world smaller all because people have opportunities. And there's

1301
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,760
Speaker 2: other countries that have taken full advantage of this, Yes, sir.

1302
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 2: You know people get mad because they're like India. Every

1303
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 2: time I call somebody that's an Indian person, it's like

1304
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: the Internet helped that happen, you know, whether it's through

1305
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: the voice lines that you know, the vo ip lines,

1306
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: or whether it's the fact that you can now like

1307
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: be in India at three in the morning Eastern Standard

1308
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: time and reset my internet router here in North Carolina.

1309
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: That happened because of the Internet. There's no like, there's

1310
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 2: no reason we shouldn't want our kids to have access

1311
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 2: to that. But people elected, somebody's gonna try to strip

1312
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:55,879
Speaker 2: all that shit.

1313
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 5: Out, you know, of course, because it's about keeping people

1314
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 5: dumb and uneducated. Because when people are dumb and uneducated

1315
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 5: and they don't know. They don't do better out of

1316
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 5: their lack of knowledge. And like I said, this country

1317
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 5: cannot survive without a quote unquote lower classes. This country

1318
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 5: cannot function without a lower uneducated class. And what I

1319
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 5: mean and that and a lot of times that has

1320
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 5: nothing to do with the race, because there are people

1321
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 5: in this low uneducated class that that falls in the

1322
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 5: various different backgrounds and various different races. The problem is

1323
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 5: it's a lot of white people that fall in that

1324
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 5: in that class that think they're better and they're not.

1325
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 5: They're actually on the same boat. And that's why a

1326
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,560
Speaker 5: lot of times they make decisions that are not beneficial

1327
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 5: to them because of racism. Because even though we're all

1328
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 5: on the same boat quote unquote, and these people that

1329
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 5: are making any decisions look at you, even though you're white,

1330
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 5: they look at you the same as they will look

1331
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 5: at an Asian American or a black person or a

1332
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 5: Native American. They look at us all the same. Based

1333
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 5: off of your answer this you're too ignorant and too

1334
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 5: stupid to understand it.

1335
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: Because racism is gonna racism.

1336
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 5: And also when you're talking with Sweeting, when you was

1337
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 5: talking about lack of nons and things like that. I

1338
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 5: was the.

1339
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 3: I guess out of my mind. Mama's three Well, my

1340
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: aunt she had two children. I'm her last child. My

1341
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 3: aunt to raise me, even though I call her mama,

1342
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm her last child.

1343
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 5: And for me, out of all three of them, I

1344
01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 5: was the quote unquote first generation to go to school.

1345
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 5: So I had to learn about faster. I had to

1346
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 5: learn about how all that shit worked. And baby, we're

1347
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 5: talking about when the internet fucking first.

1348
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 3: Got in the homes.

1349
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 5: So we're literally talking about dialogue. We're literally talking about

1350
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 5: having to go to the library. Like we're like, now everything.

1351
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 5: I can pick up my phone and google that shit now,

1352
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 5: But I had to learn old school. I had to

1353
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 5: take my ass up there and ask questions and demand answers.

1354
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: It's a lot easier and a lot simpler to get answers.

1355
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: And the thing is, also when you talk about.

1356
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 5: Net neutrality, which a lot of people don't even understand

1357
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 5: what that concept means, people need to fight for that

1358
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 5: tooth and nail because for a lot of people, if

1359
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 5: they change the rules on this, it's going to affect

1360
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 5: people all across the ball. You're gonna pay more for

1361
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 5: for for for lower quality of service. They're gonna constantly

1362
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 5: hiking rates so to get to the point where the

1363
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 5: average person will not be able to afford it. They're

1364
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 5: gonna make it where people like Netflix and like larger

1365
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 5: companies will actually pay for their shit to be faster,

1366
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 5: which means if you cannot pay, your ship will not

1367
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 5: be at the forefront. Right now, it's an open internet,

1368
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 5: which means no matter how big or small your company is,

1369
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 5: the Internet just flows at the same rate. And the

1370
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 5: thing is a lot of it, boss, from greed. A

1371
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 5: lot of it bolls from not getting people educated.

1372
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: Like you say, now you've got to have the internet.

1373
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: The Internet is like water. It's not an option.

1374
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 5: And when people say that, you know, people go, well,

1375
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 5: I have the right to brief Yes, you also now

1376
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 5: have a right to the Internet.

1377
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: It's not something that's optional anymore. We're at a point.

1378
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 5: Now where you can't function in our society without access

1379
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 5: to the Internet.

1380
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1381
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: Like, I don't really go much for conspiracies, but the

1382
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: only one that I really could see myself like, okay

1383
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: that this is the only way this can make sense.

1384
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: It's just the way that we keep kids stupid it's

1385
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 2: just it's like something about the way we target education.

1386
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 2: When people have kids, like they claim to care about kids,

1387
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: they see these kids in their school, some of them

1388
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: have kids in school, and they still say like horrible

1389
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 2: things about the education system to the point where you're like,

1390
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 2: but you do know the other result is your kids

1391
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 2: just gonna be stupid as fuck.

1392
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 5: You know.

1393
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 2: But there is a very like anti intellectual, anti learning

1394
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: atmosphere in this country, you know where it's where it's

1395
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: like like you have these resources we've never had before,

1396
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 2: and now that we have them, it's like everybody's like, well,

1397
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: stop teaching the kids about sex. They might learn about sex, Well,

1398
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: we don't want teach these kids about other religions. Will

1399
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 2: they decide to be something else? Like it's like we're

1400
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 2: just trying to keep the kids stupid for some reason

1401
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 2: to hold on to them. I don't know, but that's

1402
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: the only conspiracy shit that make like it makes me

1403
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: believe like, oh, so they'll be stupid and they can

1404
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 2: be easy to manipulating and then you can put them

1405
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 2: in prisons and you can put them in government such

1406
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: like that's the only and I don't really go up

1407
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: for conspiracies to be honest, because like, how would you

1408
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: orchestrate this shit for everybody? You know what I mean, Like,

1409
01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: how how would you know that this is hour will

1410
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 2: work out? But and then individually, I know people that

1411
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: just think that stupid shit, Like I don't, like, they

1412
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 2: don't have a government job, they don't have a company

1413
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: that's gonna make money off of people being stupid. They

1414
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 2: just really are anti kids being smart. And I'm like,

1415
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't understand the it's beinding up all my made

1416
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: in them schools. I'm like, but your kids go to

1417
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 2: one of those schools. You're not rich, You're not sending

1418
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: your kid to private school. You sending your kid to

1419
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 2: do a public school. Why would you want to strip

1420
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 2: out the fucking funding from them? But there are people

1421
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 2: that are anti funding them, anti teachers unions, anti you know,

1422
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: anti teacher salary increases. Like I just I literally don't

1423
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: understand what that is unless it's some type of conspiracy

1424
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: to keep people stupid, because of what the fuck is

1425
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: the benefit? All right, But but yeah, we definitely need

1426
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 2: the internet. Thank you, Rod and Karen, you too, are

1427
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 2: truly helping this black woman. Can't wait to hear Karen

1428
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: say thank you baby, Allegra, A thank you Ago Angela

1429
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 2: d right saying. This comment is probably too long to read,

1430
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: but I wanted to share because these are things that

1431
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 2: I brought back on at random time, thought back on

1432
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 2: at random times over the year, and I really connected

1433
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 2: to what Roy was saying about being smart but being

1434
01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 2: treated as the dumb black kid.

1435
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: Let me move this.

1436
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: In kindergarten, I missed the bus the first day. The

1437
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,719
Speaker 2: second day teacher asked who I was, like she didn't

1438
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 2: even notice the student was missing the day before. Early on,

1439
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember what grade I was done by be

1440
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: at the bus stop and stole to go to the office,

1441
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 2: and once we got to the school, the office sent

1442
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 2: me to class. In the first grade, my white female

1443
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: teacher yelled at me for not drawing fold correctly. I

1444
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: had no idea, I no idea how to hell to

1445
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 2: draw a fold, and I think I just scribbled some stuff.

1446
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: I was shocked at being yelled at. Also, it's really fuzzy,

1447
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: but I feel like I was pulled out a classic

1448
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: times to go to special ad class. In the second grade,

1449
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 2: my white male teacher accused me of cheating with whoa

1450
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,719
Speaker 2: damn you just brought one back on me. I remember

1451
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 2: I got accused of cheating on a Latin test and

1452
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:48,479
Speaker 2: this dumb ass white boy was cheating off of me

1453
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 2: sitting behind me, and I knew all my shit, and

1454
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,560
Speaker 2: they tried to act like it was a conspiracy and

1455
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: kick me out of the class, and the teacher threatened

1456
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 2: to give me an f boy was copying off of me.

1457
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 2: I had no idea he was copying off of me,

1458
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 2: and I definitely wouldn't have let him. I don't know.

1459
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 2: I'm not letting anyone copy off my shit. I did

1460
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: that studying, man, man, I like, I just it's wild

1461
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 2: because you're still a kid, you know. I think I

1462
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 2: was a sophomore or junior in high school. And I

1463
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 2: just never felt more helpless and more angry at the

1464
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 2: same time, because like you didn't want to believe me.

1465
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: And it took him taking the white kid out of

1466
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: class and a white kid telling him no, he didn't

1467
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 2: know I was copying. I just did it, and then

1468
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 2: he took me out and was like, I'm sorry about

1469
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 2: that or whatever, and I just needed him innu ite, man,

1470
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 2: because I was so angry, Like I cried angrily, like

1471
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:50,040
Speaker 2: my tears were hot, like because I was embarrassed too,

1472
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: you know, you chilled me out of class, like you know,

1473
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:55,679
Speaker 2: and you know, I be in that class every day.

1474
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 2: I fucking do my work. I turned everything in on time.

1475
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 2: Why would I sack of my good grade for this

1476
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 2: one for this one asshole who never comes to class

1477
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 2: and doesn't do a good job, like doesn't pay attention,

1478
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 2: you know. So it was like, I but I know,

1479
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: but that's that moment right where like I'm left thinking,

1480
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: is this happening to me because I'm a black kid,

1481
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: right and and you know, there's no way I can

1482
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 2: prove that this is happening because I A'm black, you know.

1483
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like what the fuck else

1484
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: could it be?

1485
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 5: You know, you like, you.

1486
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 2: Wouldn't do this to just anybody anyway, But yeah, I

1487
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: remember that. Yeah, accuse me achieving with my drawing and

1488
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 2: a white kids drawing were similar but in different colors.

1489
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: He was rude when I answered about the type of

1490
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 2: bird incorrectly. I was also accused of chasing a boy

1491
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 2: along with a bunch of other girls when I was

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01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: a part of the group that was chasing Yeah, I

1493
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 2: really do think yeah. Yeah. Anyway, Luckily in the fourth grade,

1494
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 2: I had a white male teacher who placed me in

1495
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 2: advanced reading because I couldn't remember what level of reading

1496
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 2: I was in the year before. Ever since then, I

1497
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: excelled in school and eventually moved into honors court classes

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01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 2: in the sixth grade at a different school. Also in

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: the sixth grade, my white male teacher treated me like

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01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: a smart student that favored me. Then again, his daughter

1501
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: and I shared the same name. However, in the seventh grade,

1502
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 2: a white female teacher told me that we all started

1503
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 2: out as white and then got darker or closer to

1504
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: the equator we got what. This doesn't show how I

1505
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: was specifically treated as a black child by white teachers,

1506
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 2: but just shows the mindset of the teacher. My mom

1507
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 2: didn't have the job where she could just leave and

1508
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 2: come up to my school, But I also wasn't the

1509
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: type of kid to tell her that I got yelled

1510
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 2: at for not drawing a fold or got accused of cheating.

1511
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: So ultimately, I was lucky to come across a couple

1512
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: of teachers who either took their job seriously enough to

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 2: do the best by all their students, or maybe had

1514
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 2: their own thoughts about black kids that they wanted to

1515
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 2: test out. I think you're right that if Karen had

1516
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 2: come across the teacher like that, things would have been different.

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01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for the great podcast. Yeah, man, Like, really, a

1518
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 2: lot of shit is luck. That's why I don't take

1519
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 2: all the you know, like a lot of people believe

1520
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 2: in this like exceptionalism and like these other dumb negroes.

1521
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: I don't feel any of that. I just feel very

1522
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 2: fortunate that at the parents I had, that had the

1523
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,719
Speaker 2: teachers I had, and had the people that intervene where

1524
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 2: they thought it was necessary. And some of my quote

1525
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: unquote gifts and stuff have been flashy at times, and

1526
01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 2: that flashiness helped in some ways, like oh you told

1527
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 2: this poem. Can you read this poem in front of

1528
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 2: the whole school? So once you do that, then it's like, well,

1529
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: we want this kid to be smart. You know what

1530
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Oh you got the Josh Me test, you

1531
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 2: got to go to pancake breakfast with the mayor. You're

1532
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 2: a smart kid. Now you don't get to come back

1533
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: to class and be like, oh, I'm dumb. Like so,

1534
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: I just had some flashy things that really, you know,

1535
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: I went to the national to the North Carolina finalists

1536
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: in the essay contest, like that kind of shit where

1537
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, this kid's creative, he can he might

1538
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 2: have a future in something, as opposed to if you know,

1539
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,719
Speaker 2: follow just been getting a's in the regular class, maybe

1540
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen. Maybe people just go, well, he's smart

1541
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: for a regular student, but there's no need to put

1542
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: him up in age or you know, when I had

1543
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: those semesters when I wasn't doing as well, then it's like, yeah,

1544
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: let's uh, let's you know, like drop him out of

1545
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: these class. Obviously he's not that smart. I just, like

1546
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: I said, I had some flashy moments where people went, well,

1547
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: whatever's happening. He's still gifted, but there's just something happening.

1548
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,719
Speaker 2: Let's see what we can do to get his grades

1549
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 2: back up. All right, let me go to the next one.

1550
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,120
Speaker 2: Brandon right saying, uh, hey, Karen and Rod, I just

1551
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 2: wanted to comment on my theory on award shows. I

1552
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: feel that award shows don't award our phase and true

1553
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: innovators out of obviously racism, but out of the losing

1554
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 2: caschet of their awards as well. If they actually give

1555
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 2: out all the awards to the black and brown people,

1556
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: that deserve it, they'd be overrepresented, and the awards would

1557
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: probably be seen as less than or unnecessary. Even some

1558
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 2: self hating black people were buying it. That's well, that's sad,

1559
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: that's true, and has anyone ever felt that strongly about

1560
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: walking Flock of Flame ever? Plus his audience includes four

1561
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 2: year olds. That's child abuse? All right, thanks, thanks Brandon. Yeah,

1562
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Dog for that first part.

1563
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 2: Part of it is like if we give something to

1564
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: a white person, it'll see be seen as valuable. I

1565
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: know that I feel you on that, Dear Rodi Karen.

1566
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 2: I've been listening to your show for a couple of

1567
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 2: years now. I was introduce to you by Twelve by

1568
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 2: listening to twelve and hearing Rod call in every so often.

1569
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:38,639
Speaker 2: From that, I found the show, but first I balked

1570
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: at the left two hours. But after listening to it,

1571
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 2: the time flew by and I haven't a looked back since.

1572
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 2: I became a premium subscriber, caught up on your previous

1573
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 2: episodes and found some new shows, including Bosston Sports. I

1574
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: even scraped up the courage shot me to listen live

1575
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 2: and dive into the chat room. Your show is also

1576
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 2: the reason I watched The Walking Dead. I was going

1577
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 2: await until the series is over, but I kept having

1578
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: to skip your recap episodes. So here I am hooked

1579
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: on the show. Thanks that par to you think I'll

1580
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: watch this is us No thanks. The real point of

1581
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 2: this email is to thank you both for helping me

1582
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 2: keep it together after the election, I was wrecked. I

1583
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 2: like to watch the news, but I can't anymore. I

1584
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 2: haven't watched the news program since November eighth. I stay informed,

1585
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but just can't stand to look

1586
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 2: at the man's face or hear the sound of his voice.

1587
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 2: I just get my news from reading now and listening

1588
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: to you both. It's almost like group therapy, especially when

1589
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 2: I have a chance to listen live and join the

1590
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: chat room. Karen, thank you for your testimony and your laughter.

1591
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,360
Speaker 2: It is very much appreciated. Every time you speak about

1592
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 2: black womanhood, I feel like you are reading my mind,

1593
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: ah but speaking with more power and more force than

1594
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,679
Speaker 2: I ever could. Continue to speak our truth.

1595
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 5: Rod.

1596
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 2: I know you hear this often, but I will say

1597
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 2: it anyway. Although I enjoyed the show, I do not

1598
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: agree with everything you say. There are just some things

1599
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: I will never find acceptable, and I don't think I

1600
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 2: should compromise my principles on how I was raised just

1601
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,560
Speaker 2: to tolerate what is clearly a lifestyle choice and not

1602
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: what you're intended. I'm talking, of course, of the unnatural

1603
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 2: way you see fit to eat a kitcat bar. If

1604
01:25:08,439 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: you won't change for decency sake, think of the children

1605
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 2: who are watching you and are very impressionable. Maybe as

1606
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: an adult, with all your teeth, you can force your

1607
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: bite to bridge all four connected bars, but children with

1608
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: the little baby teeth will get their teeth tied in

1609
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: the grooves and in between each bars. That's not safe,

1610
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: that is not responsible. Please think about the children. Children.

1611
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 2: I've been doing this since I was a kid, and

1612
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: I was able to make it work, so y'all can

1613
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 2: do it too. Finally, I want to leave you with

1614
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,919
Speaker 2: a video commercial. I was in New Orleans over the holidays.

1615
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 2: In Louisiana is known for lots of personal injury lawyers,

1616
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 2: more than most places. They all advertise on television to

1617
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,080
Speaker 2: some even engage local celebrities. I imagine my surprise when

1618
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: I saw an ad with Big Freedo enjoyed. I would

1619
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 2: love to play this Minerva all the best Minerva AA

1620
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: four to three. But because my screen sharing is a work,

1621
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to see if I can play this tomorrow.

1622
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 3: But I got you.

1623
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 2: All right, And the last one, nerd gek Ninja says, hey,

1624
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 2: Rody Cairen, hope this gets in before feedback show starts.

1625
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: It's a mind nerd geek Ninja on Instagram and Twitter.

1626
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 2: I haven't called it written in it quite a while.

1627
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 2: I've been busy revamping my life and taking notes from

1628
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: all the people who inspired me, you and Karen being

1629
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: a mother, So I just wanted to stop and show

1630
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: some love heart Emogi for everything you do, even when

1631
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 2: I'm behind on episodes. I love seeing what ch'all are

1632
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 2: up to on Instagram and Twitter. I love your new

1633
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 2: hair color, Caaren, thank you, Thank you guys for all

1634
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 2: the inspiration. Really, today's my birthday, Happy birthday, and I'm

1635
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 2: checking some of my long time goals off the list.

1636
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Last year, I started my duolo business probably pronounced that wrong,

1637
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:49,640
Speaker 2: promoting my artwork more and regaining confidence what I and

1638
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: what I create. I started a podcast this year, and

1639
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: I had the idea for it for over three years.

1640
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 2: I just didn't have the confidence sometimes my ender Charlie

1641
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,439
Speaker 2: Brown will pop up and say, what if Roder Carr,

1642
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 2: It's just so inspirational that they inspire mediocre people to

1643
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 2: do things they have no business come doing. Hold up, look,

1644
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: hold up? If that is true? No, hold on, if

1645
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: that's true, good because I need more mediocre black people

1646
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: out here with the confidence of a mediocre white man.

1647
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Come on, you can do it too, baby.

1648
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: Then my Ncaren voice says, do you baby? You should

1649
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: believe in yourself and then she goes on a rand

1650
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: about black women and self love that leads into another

1651
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 2: rand about agent Oranges president and why can't you start

1652
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: a damn podcast? Love you guys, stays to Emon, if

1653
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: you have time the Nerve Geeting Ninja podcast on, I

1654
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 2: G all right, thank you, well, appreciate it. That's all

1655
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: the emails and we are just like right at the time,

1656
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 2: it's about to turn off, so til next time. I

1657
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 2: Love you,