WEBVTT - 2018 PGA Championship Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>our PGA Championship preview.

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<v Speaker 2>I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When

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<v Speaker 2>I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I find my ball in a.

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<v Speaker 2>Brid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida Egg,

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to another edition of the

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<v Speaker 1>Frida Egg Podcast. We are here to preview this year's

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Championship with sp Nations Brendan Porath and ESPN's Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>van Valkenberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, welcome on Andy, thanks for having me. Good to

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<v Speaker 2>be back.

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<v Speaker 3>I tend to think of my partner my guest partner

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<v Speaker 3>here more is like a Lou Garrick stepping in for

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<v Speaker 3>Wally Wally, Pip. You know, we may never see our

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<v Speaker 3>old friend Shawn Martin again.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought about doing the entire podcast in a Shawn

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<v Speaker 2>Martin impression, the Shawn Martin voice, but that would be

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<v Speaker 2>that's a committing to the bit. I'm not sure I

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<v Speaker 2>could quite live up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. To clarify for the listeners, our regular preview and

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<v Speaker 1>recap guy, Sean Martin, he is. He's out on vacation

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<v Speaker 1>this week, and it begs the question I've often wondered

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<v Speaker 1>if Smartin was the smartest person in golf, and does

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<v Speaker 1>skipping the twenty eighteen PGA signal more about his intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>or is this just a coincident.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, he's in the spot where the

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<v Speaker 3>company he works for has a busy schedule up coming.

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<v Speaker 3>In this scene, this is not the company he works for,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's a suitable time to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, he would, he would if he were here. We

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<v Speaker 2>want you to know the FedEx Cup playoffs are just

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<v Speaker 2>as big of a deal as the PGA Championship, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more so so.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely, the player the players is definitely a bigger deal.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say the highlight of my family vacation last

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<v Speaker 3>week was pretending I needed to make a run for

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<v Speaker 3>coffee for fifteen minutes and using it as a reason

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<v Speaker 3>to just drive around for an hour to keep my

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<v Speaker 3>sanity and listen to your podcast week on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way you guys would change Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a fantastic and entertaining debut on the Friday Egg.

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<v Speaker 2>For Kevin, it's just, you know, it's like a author

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<v Speaker 2>writ in his first book. Just pour everything you have

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<v Speaker 2>into your first your first novel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now you're you're the quickest repeat guest of all time.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's amazing. I gotta say I love the it's

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<v Speaker 2>a clutch move to pretend to get coffee move on

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<v Speaker 2>the family vacation for that's use that many times myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I got a little lost. I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>to they ran out of coffee at the first one.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like twenty five miles farther away.

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<v Speaker 2>Than I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so uh PGA this week? What do you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys excited?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you? What do you?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you looking forward to?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to be on site sweaty Saint Louis.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been trying. I've been begging poor out to join me,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's He's never given me a definitive no.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm pretty sure he's not going. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be me and Kyle Porter among others, sweating

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<v Speaker 2>it out down there AND's going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming down tomorrow, are you quick? Quick? Quick quick visit?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe going back the weekend. I don't know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm committing to tomorrow at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least, Devin, I'm kind of disappointed you're not there already

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<v Speaker 3>pounding out thousand word columns on the Clydesdale's delivering the

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<v Speaker 3>Lawnamaker Trophy.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing I've learned covering the majors is the

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<v Speaker 2>like three day build up to the majors and writing

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand word columns every single day is not the

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<v Speaker 2>way to go do majors. The best way to cover

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<v Speaker 2>major is to get in Wednesday night and just just

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<v Speaker 2>write about the actual goal.

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<v Speaker 3>And then for Andy's purposes, what are you the opposite?

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<v Speaker 3>Right you go, Scott the course, Yeah, get your content

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<v Speaker 3>and watch, take those learnings and apply them to watching

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<v Speaker 3>from home.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, I'm I'm the opposite. I'm a I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an early week guy taking the early week takeaways

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<v Speaker 1>and applying them to the to the weekend watching, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>relating to the uh, to the everyday guys sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>home watching on the telecast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I walk walk the pins like just you

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<v Speaker 2>know where he thinks the Sunday pans are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be and check them with his uh, his compass, make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that it is accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, well I definitely want to get a get

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<v Speaker 1>a feel for for what kind of what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>heat they're going to be dealing with, and and lou

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<v Speaker 1>Brown actually asked, uh, We've got a special segment here.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got Gary Player calling in to describe this week's

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<v Speaker 1>forecast and what players are going to deal with from

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<v Speaker 1>a weather standpoint in Saint Louis, Indy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you many much for having me on the Friday podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, I conquer Bill Rieve once far long ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just a hot and sweaty and disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>as it will make me this week. So what I expect.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of swamp ass and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>guys were big and Brownie hitting them all very far.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks Garry. That was that was a real treat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be. It should be something else. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>last year's PGA was much of the same with with

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<v Speaker 1>the weather down in uh in Charlotte in August, and

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<v Speaker 1>this year will have probably a couple of rain delays

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<v Speaker 1>in a really soft course. In terms of uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all kinds of storylines. I was, I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of putting together all of them, and I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, what player do you guys think has

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<v Speaker 1>the most to gain from a PGA win.

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<v Speaker 2>Mh, I'm gonna defer to pour out here because I

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<v Speaker 2>got mine and mine, but yeah, we may double up here.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, well, I think I think from like.

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<v Speaker 3>Practically speaking, wouldn't wouldn't the answer be Jordan's speed?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean, like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously like if he doesn't win, like there's not a

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<v Speaker 3>big loss. But if he if he does win, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, I feel like that's a pretty big launching

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<v Speaker 3>in like who who gains more? I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know Tiger all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a sudden, that's that's a great question. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>great answer because then not only does Jordan have as

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<v Speaker 2>many majors as Rory, but he also has the career

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<v Speaker 2>Grand Slam, and his entire season, the worst of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>has been a huge success. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think like the probably the default answer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the first percent goes Ricky, but just because whatever, it

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<v Speaker 3>just changes a lot of the narrative around him right now.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I think, like when you phrase it his

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<v Speaker 3>most to gain, I think it's Jordan's speed as the

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<v Speaker 3>most game out of winning this PGA.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna answer something way labor like Kyle Stanley

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<v Speaker 2>or like Patrick Cantley, like a guy suddenly like a

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<v Speaker 2>grin elite ball striker, like taking themselves the next level.

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<v Speaker 2>But Pooras's answer was like so much better than mine

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm just embarrassed that I threw those out instead.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the fascinating thing with this one. You

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<v Speaker 1>could make a case for like almost probably like ten

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<v Speaker 1>players in the field, like you got Tiger. Tiger would

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<v Speaker 1>complete like the greatest sports comeback in recent memory. With

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<v Speaker 1>a win, Phil would become the second oldest guy to

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<v Speaker 1>ever win a major. You'd have like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Dustin Johnson. That's a big question, is like is

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen a disappointment for DJ without a major?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I go back and forth with DJ so

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<v Speaker 2>much that you know, are we overrating majors? Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>obvious the DJ is, like, you know, an amazing player.

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<v Speaker 2>What if he were to win another fifteen twenty tournaments

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<v Speaker 2>and have forty wins and only one major, would his

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<v Speaker 2>career be a disappointment? Like, I don't know, like it

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<v Speaker 2>it seems ridiculous that DJ, if he got like thirty

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<v Speaker 2>plus win and thirty five wins, would be mentioned in

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<v Speaker 2>the same breath as Davis Love and Fred Couples, who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to finish, you know, with eleven twelve wins

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<v Speaker 2>and one major. Like, but that's the way that majors

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<v Speaker 2>kind of end up sort of measuring people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, DJ doing the uh you do the summer the

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<v Speaker 3>Summer triple with the TPC South Glen Glenn Abbey Bellery.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, Starberry putting up like triple doubles

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<v Speaker 3>on a twenty five win NXT team, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little bit depressing that we were like rooting

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<v Speaker 2>the end of Firestone and yet it's gonna it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go to TBC south Wind next year for the the

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<v Speaker 2>bridge Stone, like where guys are going to hit wedge

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<v Speaker 2>in every hole, every hole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like, uh, I don't know if it's an upgrade.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to talk Do you want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about Can we talk about that that WGC for a second?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>You know it was it was brutal, wasn't it. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it was boring. I think like part of it

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<v Speaker 3>is the course, which you have illuminated so well for

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<v Speaker 3>people over.

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<v Speaker 2>The last few years.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy, Well, Like I think another part of it is

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<v Speaker 3>like the WGCs are just kind of eating their own

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's like everyone's getting too fat and rich to

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<v Speaker 3>the point where like the golf is not compelling. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I just think, like what is the incentive to Like

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<v Speaker 3>there's obviously there's strategy involved in the golf course, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's also some in the golf course you played, But

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's also some strategy involved, Like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>strategy taken out of it when everyone just makes a

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<v Speaker 3>cut and everyone's guaranteed fifty grand and like everyone that's

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<v Speaker 3>already in the field is kind of set for life,

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<v Speaker 3>Like you know, it's already kind of you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>rich and the fat of the you know, living off

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<v Speaker 3>the walking in high con whatever the whatever, the bad

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<v Speaker 3>metaphor you want to use is like, I just I

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<v Speaker 3>think like there's a lack of interest. The players are

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<v Speaker 3>kind of their lethargic about it. Yeah, And think of

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<v Speaker 3>going from Firestone the TPC South Wind the week exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>like right after the Open, like you think guys are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be just showing up to collect checks and

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<v Speaker 3>get the hell out of there. Three or four guys

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<v Speaker 3>who are maybe trying to play on Sunday, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing. I would say that they're talking about ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say that the WGCs are the most

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing thing in golf at this point. You get the

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<v Speaker 1>best players together right now and they play a Muni

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico, they play a cool match by tournament at

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<v Speaker 1>a at a pretty cool course. They play TPC South

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<v Speaker 1>one now moving forward, and then they play you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible golf course in China that barely anybody shows

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<v Speaker 1>up to you know, that's just the world deserves better

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<v Speaker 1>when the top seventy golfers all come together. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say yesterday, I think one of the things that's been

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<v Speaker 1>lost in all the golf course hate, and I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>a chief offender of the golf course hate, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is how unbelievably good Justin Thomas is, and how he

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<v Speaker 1>just he was playing a different golf course than everybody

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<v Speaker 1>else in the field. And if I did all this

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<v Speaker 1>number crunching and and I was looking at top tens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I started this because I wanted to look at

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky Fowler specifically, like top tens compared to wins, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>long term overtime. And I found that Justin Thomas has

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<v Speaker 1>ten wins and twenty four top tens in his young career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at like thirty seven and a half percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time he's in the top like versus top ten

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<v Speaker 1>and when he wins, you know, so tell me that

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<v Speaker 1>when he's at his best, he's probably better than everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the game of golf. Right now, obviously the all

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<v Speaker 1>time high guy is Tiger and he's at sixty six percent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Not it was I am I wrong? Though? In the

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<v Speaker 2>funnest part of watching JT and the whole tournament was

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<v Speaker 2>when he would get into trouble and when he'd hit

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<v Speaker 2>like ridiculous shots from you know, I think he curved

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<v Speaker 2>a wedge with a ball below his feet, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty yards in the air out of the bunker, and

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<v Speaker 2>then that shot where he hit and the other fairway

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<v Speaker 2>on Friday, I think, and then curved it back towards

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<v Speaker 2>like those are the kind of things that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see from JT because that's what makes golf fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And he when he's playing well, he just is murdering

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<v Speaker 2>a drive right down the middle and then like hitting

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<v Speaker 2>an unbelievably towering iron to the green and making putts

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's amazing, But it's like kind of boring

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<v Speaker 2>to watch over and over again. And I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe like some of when Rory was doing that seemed

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<v Speaker 2>a little more compelling, but maybe I'm just seeing so

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<v Speaker 2>much of it now that I'm numb to it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting all kinds of hate from JT fanboys

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<v Speaker 2>about pointing that out when actually I really like Justin Thomas,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's one of my favorite players to watch. But

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<v Speaker 2>it also just I want to be seeing him like

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<v Speaker 2>use the full display of all his skills, all the

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<v Speaker 2>arrows in his quiver, like we talk about, you know

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<v Speaker 2>that Rory can hit like all those different kinds of shots,

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<v Speaker 2>But why would he learn Why would he sort of

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<v Speaker 2>hone them and sharpen them because the courses are set

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<v Speaker 2>up so he doesn't ever really have to unless he

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<v Speaker 2>gets into trouble. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just think like as bad as yesterday, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of yesterday should I had so much more juice given

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<v Speaker 3>the later bore we had, And I just think like

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<v Speaker 3>next year we're overlooking the impact, Like the wgc's just

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<v Speaker 3>lack like player enthusiasm for it. And I think next year,

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<v Speaker 3>going from Royal Port Rush to Memphis, it's gonna show

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<v Speaker 3>up cast or check and Sunday's gonna lack a little

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<v Speaker 3>more even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a red eye from what is it?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the airport that they have to fly on due

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<v Speaker 2>to Port Rush? All fast fast Memphis, the regular ragar

0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.280
<v Speaker 2>red eye there. The most amazing ce SAT that we

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<v Speaker 2>saw one of our friends put together is Ricky Fowler

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<v Speaker 2>has played in twenty seven of them. He has zero

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<v Speaker 2>wins and has made four point three million dollars, so

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<v Speaker 2>he like Arl Palmer, made like a million dollars his

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<v Speaker 2>entire career. Like the fact that like obviously the money

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<v Speaker 2>is way different, but that's nuts to think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's a great example of how the wgc's are just

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<v Speaker 2>a money grab like cash out. Like you, Yeah, Ricky

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<v Speaker 2>Feller's probably had some like top tens in there obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but he never won one, and he's made an obscene

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<v Speaker 2>amount of money, like four times as much more is

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Norman made in his entire career.

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<v Speaker 1>Another just so another thing that bothers me and I

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<v Speaker 1>started thinking about this and I couldn't get it out

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<v Speaker 1>of my head last night. Is a right, So they

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<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour has to know that Firestone is somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a boring golf course, right, but they've set the golf

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<v Speaker 1>course up the exact same way for the last fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 1>like no variation is set up. Like they have four

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<v Speaker 1>par threes that all of them are between one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and eighty five and two hundred and twenty yards, but

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<v Speaker 1>every day they set them up that distance, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can play a forward te you can make one of

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<v Speaker 1>them one hundred and twenty yards one day like that

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<v Speaker 1>would be fun. Like the sixteenth hole, like move it

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<v Speaker 1>up one day, make it reachable for everybody one day,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that would actually be a somewhat interesting shot where

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<v Speaker 1>people would have to decide whether to go for it

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<v Speaker 1>or not rather than just having you know, people lay

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<v Speaker 1>up all day long. Like how come the PGA Tour

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<v Speaker 1>never changes set up day to day when they go

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<v Speaker 1>to the same golf courses every single year and they

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<v Speaker 1>set them up the exact same way, Like like how

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<v Speaker 1>does this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I am I crazy? Or is this crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's spot on. I want to like a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive into who, like who's doing the setups each day?

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<v Speaker 2>Like is it you know, I don't know who's the

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<v Speaker 2>PGA tour'st set up people. Do we know anything about anyone?

0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's Mark Russell and slugg or White.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's those the guys you see come riding in

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<v Speaker 3>the carts to administer, you know, rulings and things.

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<v Speaker 2>I think here's what I think is a here's a

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<v Speaker 2>take is that because the players are so powerful, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's like what we saw at the baron Nelson. They're

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to piss them off. They're afraid to say, like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>screw it, I won't come to this thing if you

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<v Speaker 2>set this up hard whatever, I want to be what

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<v Speaker 2>it normally is, because they would whine and wine and

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<v Speaker 2>wine and complain if it was something that was abnormal.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, like I understand it. They're they're

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<v Speaker 2>used to what they're used to. Nothing, there's no incentive

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.320
<v Speaker 2>for them to want to change. They don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>look bad. They want to just be comfortable. So much

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<v Speaker 2>about being golf is being comfortable, and so that's how

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<v Speaker 2>it is. Just it's a cycle that feeds itself over

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<v Speaker 2>and over, right, right, I think, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy, like you're not crazy, this is crazy, but I

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<v Speaker 3>think we could lose sight of who the constituents are

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<v Speaker 3>like at the end of the day, Like the tour

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<v Speaker 3>answers to the players like Roger Gandelli, the NFL owners,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's just how it worked, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So, uh, in some sort of attempt to get this

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<v Speaker 1>train back on the tracks, you know, we were supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the beautiful city of Saint Louis and

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<v Speaker 1>a major championship in Saint Louis and the PGA. What

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, Brooks Koepka had a great week at

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<v Speaker 1>Firestone despite putting horribly and looking at the golf course,

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<v Speaker 1>I really think that somebody that absolutely bombs the ball

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<v Speaker 1>is going to win this thing. There's really thick rough

0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and the golf course sets up well for guys that

0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.920
<v Speaker 1>hit it far and high. If brooks Kepka wins, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have won three of the last five majors he's played in,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will only have one PGA Tour win in

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<v Speaker 1>his career. Like, does that say something about the PGA

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<v Speaker 1>Tour setups or is it more about brooks Kepka and majors.

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<v Speaker 3>Just the brooks Kepka is just a big game hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it says more about Kopka in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like he's got the game to win on

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:40.439
<v Speaker 3>the PGA Tour and PJ Tour setups. No, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I think it like, of course, I think I just

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<v Speaker 3>shows he kind of turns it on, cares more, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and turns it on, realizes it full potential at on

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<v Speaker 3>like the biggest stages and at the most toughest, toughest

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<v Speaker 3>and challenging venues, and kind of I think it says

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<v Speaker 3>more about Koepka that he has that he had, that

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<v Speaker 3>Ricky has lower odds than he does is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a an injustice, almost a crime. You know, Ricky's eighteen

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:14.159
<v Speaker 3>to one and Brooks is twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>On how much how much of mark money do you

0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 2>think that like they get on Ricky, Like Ricky's made

0:20:20.240 --> 0:20:23.639
<v Speaker 2>Vegas so much money from like a lot of just

0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:27.399
<v Speaker 2>lame fish betting on Ricky who don't know anything about golf.

0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:30.879
<v Speaker 2>I bet the rick has made DraftKings like five million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars himself.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I'm in this, like this majors pool with my

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<v Speaker 1>buddies and a lot of them are like buddies from college,

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<v Speaker 1>and where there's thirty two guys and it's a snake

0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.640
<v Speaker 1>draft every year, right or for every major and the

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 1>WGC match play that's why there's thirty two, so all

0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.120
<v Speaker 1>sixty four guys get picked. And anyway, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>like the eighth pick this uh this time around, and

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<v Speaker 1>it started today and like I was on a text

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<v Speaker 1>chain with a couple of my buddies that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big golf fans, and we're like at pick six and

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<v Speaker 1>justin Thomas and Brooks haven't been picked yet and and

0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:14.639
<v Speaker 1>like people were losing their minds, you know, like on

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<v Speaker 1>this text chain, like how is Justin Thomas still not

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<v Speaker 1>been picked? So Justin Thomas ended up going seven and

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I got Brooks at eight, and it's just crazy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger got picked ahead of him. I mean I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like Spieth obviously is having a bad year, but Fowler

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<v Speaker 1>got picked number three, and it's just like this is

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of crazy. It's just but this it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you a lens into the public opinion of these golfers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is here's what I think Rick's projections. And fourth knows

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<v Speaker 2>this because we were texting about it. I think Rick's

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<v Speaker 2>going to get his like Sergio Major, like when he's

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<v Speaker 2>almost forty, and that's going to be it, like he

0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.280
<v Speaker 2>and everyone like, oh, finally, like Ricky's Fowler's fulfilled. He's

0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:01.280
<v Speaker 2>a major champion, and but that'll be it, like we

0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:02.879
<v Speaker 2>all you will think about is like all I'll think

0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 2>about is all the majors he could have won. That's

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.680
<v Speaker 2>what I think about with Sergio. Sergio want to could

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 2>have won like seven majors and he has. He's probably

0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna held with one. His game is trending in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad direction.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when I think about it. That's why I did

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<v Speaker 1>all this number crunching. I put it all on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>With Ricky is like his career looks a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Casey's not. Sergio won twenty percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>that he was in in contention, you know, if you

0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>if you look at it that way, like that's like

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<v Speaker 1>a win rate you see with a lot of the superstars.

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<v Speaker 1>Ricky is at eleven percent, Paul Casey's at twelve. So

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Ricky's not even I I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep wanting to put him into this generational talent bucket,

0:22:48.760 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>but to me, he's more of like a he's a

0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>player that was like a really good player of an era,

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:56.720
<v Speaker 1>not a great player of an era.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I think stat's stats don't lie.

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, I'm not the biggest gat guy real quick.

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I do think that there is some merit to the

0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.800
<v Speaker 2>idea that you're if you're the kind of player who

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.360
<v Speaker 2>has to make like, you know, twenty birdies in a week,

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Kepta might just be like, yeah, I'm kind of out

0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 2>on that golf Like, so some of those courses are

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<v Speaker 2>going to set up. You know, It's like if a

0:23:23.280 --> 0:23:24.920
<v Speaker 2>guy like Kepka might say, like, I want it to

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 2>be hard. I want it to be sort of you know,

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I can muscle it out of the rough when other

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 2>guys can't. And so maybe that maybe that's why majors

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.840
<v Speaker 2>would sort of set up better for him, Like it's

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:38.439
<v Speaker 2>just the tours too easy for him, for one, for

0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 2>hold his interest and for two to not like level

0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:44.479
<v Speaker 2>the field, like raise the difficulty and like a really strong,

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.600
<v Speaker 2>really good player might rest the top.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was thinking about this today when I was

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:51.399
<v Speaker 1>looking at these numbers and thinking about Kopka and the

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour, and I don't want this to be taken

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 1>out of context. It easily can be like, but I

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 1>found this comparison, and I'm not sure sure exactly if

0:24:02.080 --> 0:24:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it's right on, and obviously like they're all athletes in

0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>both scenarios and great athletes. But is the PGA Tour

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:17.240
<v Speaker 1>to golf, what is to what the WWE is to

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Olympic wrestling.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a day, I don't know, my god, man, it's

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 3>called the PGAs for a farce, Like it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like I I just I think like I think

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<v Speaker 1>high level amateur golf, like the summer circuit. These kids

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 1>play at high level amateur golf, plays a better golf courses,

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the test your games more, and are set up more

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:50.479
<v Speaker 1>towards like what championship golf really is versus what the

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:52.920
<v Speaker 1>PGA Tour plays weekend week out.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not playing high level amateur golf. It's

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<v Speaker 2>seventy four hundred yards, right.

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:02.480
<v Speaker 1>So I mean some of them, some of them are okay.

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean I knowledge of the high level amter golf

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>is roughly zero, so I'm gonna have to defer to you.

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know.

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 3>This is something I thought you're getting back to your

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 3>point about. I think this is kind of all getting

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.720
<v Speaker 3>back Like there's a theme in this entire pot. The

0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 3>front half of this pot about WGC is kind of

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 3>eating their own and setups like are like beholding to

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 3>the constituents that are the players.

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.719
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like this. I don't know.

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:36.159
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a very limit like closed door party that

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:38.080
<v Speaker 3>it's the way they want it to be. Of course,

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 3>there's access, you can get a card and you can

0:25:40.560 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, you play well enough, you get there, but

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 3>like it's more or less a closed system, and it's

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 3>not a closed system but it's it's the party that

0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>they want to throw and it's kind of exclusive, and

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it's the way they want it to be. It's it's

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 3>how they want the birdie fests, courses, they want the

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.760
<v Speaker 3>way they want it set up, and it just yields

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.639
<v Speaker 3>a kind of golf that maybe we don't like. And

0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I think that's getting back to everything just the wgc's

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:10.640
<v Speaker 3>being too like just seeming lethargic and people disinterested and

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, the no variety and courses or setups.

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 2>I just.

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Like if they the players are the constituents, there's not

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:21.199
<v Speaker 3>an over there's not.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you don't need to be We've we've seen

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:26.280
<v Speaker 2>like you don't.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Need to be like an adversary, like like the USGA

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 3>is in an adversarial posture with the players, the RNA

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 3>is is not. It's not an antagonistic posture, but like

0:26:38.040 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 3>they're also not you know, beholden in part part with

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 3>im parcel with the players, Like the PGA Tour is

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 3>so like I think like the PGA Tour is the

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 3>way it is for a reason, and I don't think

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 3>like we're the only ones that are complaining it, and

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 3>like the people who are throwing the party, have it

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 3>set up exactly how they want it.

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna go in on Andy's

0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>take though on the WW thing. Here's are going to go.

0:27:04.520 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>So if if that's true, then like Tiger is essentially

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 2>like the Rock, like the biggest superstar that the WW

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>has ever produced or whatever. All right, and so if

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.399
<v Speaker 2>you have a charismatic superstar, it covers up all of

0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 2>your other ills. And so when the Rock then sort

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 2>of left the WWE, which I don't follow it that closely,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 2>so there was a lot there was like a void

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 2>of like, well, who's going to be like our star? Like,

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot less people, you know maybe were

0:27:32.720 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 2>plug in and cared about the WB and so they

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 2>needed to sort of evolve and like develop other superstars

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. And I think that the risk that you

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.280
<v Speaker 2>run is if you if you think that one person

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 2>is going to carry you and make up for all

0:27:47.320 --> 0:27:52.040
<v Speaker 2>of your you know so deficiencies, then when that one

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.159
<v Speaker 2>person leaves, you run the risk of a lot of

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 2>people being like, well, actually, this isn't that fun. Actually

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 2>this is kind of lame, Like that one guy made

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:02.680
<v Speaker 2>it seem more fun, which was the truth. Of Firestone

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>for a long time, and then when it wasn't, it

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>was like the sheet had been pulled back, and all

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, everyone's like, ugh, I don't want to

0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 2>watch this. And that's what I fear that, Like, I

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 2>don't think that the majority of golf fans right now

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>are disinterested in the PGA Tour like we are in

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>the sense of like we're a little bit frustrated with

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the seameness to it. But I think there's a potential

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 2>tipping point that maybe we're sort of ahead of the

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>curve and saying like, if you don't change up some things,

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>then you run the risk of all of a sudden

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 2>people being like, man, I just this is boring. I

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 2>don't want to Now the Tiger's retired, I find this exhausting. Relatedly,

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't.

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 3>Know if you saw Tiger and Feller looking at making

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 3>this thing kind of a series with multiple players and

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 3>two man games. I don't know you saw that report today.

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>It's I didn't see that either worked out there.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, maybe a competing products somewhere down the line.

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fact that they're putting it at Shadow

0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>Creek is kind of fun to me. That's a worse

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>that no one ever sees, so you know, at least

0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:05.479
<v Speaker 2>at least it will be a different look for things.

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that fas.

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of FAZ fan,

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>but like, yeah, it's actually interesting because I will be

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>excited to see Shadow Creek and PGA Tour pros play it.

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Just like I mean, like I think about the PGA

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Tour schedule and after the majors, I would say that

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Riviera is the best event.

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like to me, it's it's not a surprise that

0:29:33.480 --> 0:29:35.440
<v Speaker 1>it has played at the best golf course that they

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:40.800
<v Speaker 1>play four rounds at every year. You know, yeah, I.

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Was thinking today to get us back to the PGA.

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 3>It is just kind of like the fatigue of the

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>whole like PGA Tour season. Do you remember when we

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 3>were at Riviera and like the announcement came out that Tiger,

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 3>Rory and JT were all playing together, Like I like gas,

0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>I like drop my phone. I was like, oh my god,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 3>like this is and I know I'm to whatever follow

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>this for a living and like I don't know, I

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.360
<v Speaker 3>can be jaded about it, but like that literally like

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 3>stirred my emotions. I was like, this is amazing, this

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 3>is so great, Like they're playing again this week. I'm

0:30:12.320 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 3>just like, eh, you know, it's like that just the season,

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 3>the grind of PGA Tour season. Obviously we've now been

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 3>able to watch Tiger play a full season, so it's

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 3>just I don't know, it just lost the supergroup, then

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 3>lost so much sizzle compared to the Riviera.

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you think that the move to May then,

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 1>because of that fatigue and that that season long thing,

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 1>is a good move for the PGA.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I think in that respect it is.

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 3>I think overall, I think like the PGA Tour kind

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 3>of pulled one over on them.

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 2>I think like, I.

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 3>Think in that respect it is like they could maybe

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of push a wedge their way into some sort

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 3>of new identity, and there's much more enthusiasm and anticipation

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 3>around it falling in May. But again, like there's a

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 3>lot of other sports going on and a lot of

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>other like compedian indus interests more than just like preseason football.

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 3>So I think like in that respect, from our very

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 3>narrow point of view, like the PGA might there might

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 3>be more an enthusiasm and anticipation around it, But overall,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't love them.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>That I think it'll be it'll make the PGA to

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:33.520
<v Speaker 2>me feel more relevant because it will, you know, when

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>we have two majors in that there's a possibility that

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.720
<v Speaker 2>someone could win two majors and be going for the

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>third at the US Open, which has never happen, happened

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 2>really in our lifetime. And you know, having the best

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>major the British you know, be the final major of

0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the year is I think also kind of fun. But

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>part I just want to call back to remember when

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>at Riviera when we walked and we walked with the

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 2>Penn State Truther guy who was there to see Tiger,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>which is the bizarre random media sighting that guy who

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 2>writes all the like joke was framed. So that's the

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>most bizarre like random media person sighting ever. That's how

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>big of a drawn Tiger was.

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 1>He brings up the truthers that that I mean, that

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>was crazy. There was like eighty people following Tiger, eighty

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>media people following Tiger that week. In that group, which

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>on a Thursday morning, I remember how packed that just

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole like crowd was on a Thursday morning, like

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't usually happen, which uh which is surprising. I

0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>think the other thing is that gives the schedule a

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>little bit of benefit as like the cadence of it.

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Like so you have the biggest, the biggest non tour event,

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>which is the Players in March, and then one month

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>later you got the Masters, one month later, you have

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>the PGA one month later. Like it puts it on

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:59.479
<v Speaker 1>a regular schedule. But that being said, like going up

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>against then NHL and NBA playoffs not good at all.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's gonna do anything for the general

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.600
<v Speaker 3>fatigue we feel about the playoffs either. I mean, just

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:11.360
<v Speaker 3>because the playoffs are now in August and not going

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 3>up against football, like I think, like, yeah, we're still

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 3>just gonna be kind of burnt out. But then you know,

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 3>it's like guys playing for ten million dollar persons.

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>People people going to their their lighthouse. You know.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all right. Here's the question for you, what

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>would be the three ideal PGA may courses. If we

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>have new courses in play and you can set up

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>moving forward and and anything is in play as long

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 2>as it can have the actual tints and all that stuff,

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>what would be the ideal three courses that you would

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>wanted to see that Riviera kay.

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>L a c c uh huh and then uh, I

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>guess I guess we'll go with uh. I don't know.

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mind seeing Chambers Bay, Yeah, Chambers. I just

0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>I just put them all on the West coast, like

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm I don't want to ghost. I don't want Kiowa, Okay,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't want I don't want anything in Dallas other

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 1>than like Trinity Forest, I know, or Texas for that matter,

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, sorry, Texas. I'm menna. Get a lot of

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>emails about that Florida, Like nothing really does it for me.

0:34:34.280 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not Seminole is not going to be opening the doors. Uh, Georgia,

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing in there that's going to host you know,

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a PGA, Like I don't want to see it at

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>East Lake, do you guys?

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:55.439
<v Speaker 2>No, I just track with Riviera. I mean that's those

0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 2>are two.

0:34:56.640 --> 0:34:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, as bad as it sounds like, I mean,

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that's I would if it was at Riviera every year,

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like thrilled. That would never happen and it

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>would cannibalize the genesis open. But it would be the

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 1>best case scenario.

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Go back to salih. Uh, that's right, it's been so long.

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 2>What's the deal there that they just don't have any

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>enough room? It was like played like sixty seven or

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 2>something back then at tight tight, it real tight. The

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:29.520
<v Speaker 2>big tall trees. I've walked that once for like a

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>buddy of mine was covered like junior am thing there

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>and so he walked it and the trees were beautiful.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It was, you know, I know a lot of anti

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.319
<v Speaker 2>tree sentiment on this podcast, but.

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>We'd we'd have we'd have to restock tree management shirts

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that we you know, out there giving them away.

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>After hearing about the Firestone Dutch Elm disease incident over

0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 2>by CBS, I think you need shirts that say support

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Dutch Elm disease.

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>It's uh that one might go too far, too far.

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>People don't realize. I was an environmental science major. I

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>love trees. I just don't love them on golf courses.

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, was Honestly, I think Chambers got a bad

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.759
<v Speaker 2>rap in the way it sort of played out there,

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 2>and I want to I think eventually they got to

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:24.239
<v Speaker 2>go back to Chambers give another shot, whether it's in

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 2>may or whatever.

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Somebody said something about a idea of like giving it

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>all the modern I can't remember who, and I apologize

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for that. But like all modern major all modern major

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 1>hosts as the PGAs think, you know, yeah, and the

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.600
<v Speaker 1>problem but this is the other problem with the May date,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Like it's going to be really interesting next year with

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Beth Page because like there weren't like leaves on trees

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of May. Like and it's not about

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like the weather. Everybody's like, oh, well, the average highest

0:36:57.880 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 1>sixty five or sixty seven or whatever it is. The date.

0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>It's about like the amount of time you have to

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>grow grass and actually have healthy grass that's ready for

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.399
<v Speaker 1>a major championship. And I think that's one of the

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:15.719
<v Speaker 1>one of the problems is with the date change, you

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>eliminate you know, the the un you know, the unpopular

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>real dilemma with golf is that the majority of the

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>best golf courses in the country are located between you know, Pennsylvania,

0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia and north east of there, Like that's where all

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>the great golf courses are for the most part. The

0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Midwest has a lot of great ones too, but that

0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:43.240
<v Speaker 1>one's out of the out of it with the date change. Also,

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>like you know, Oakland Hills is no longer a potential

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>host with this date Inverness in Ohio isn't a host

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>anything in Chicago can't host in in May and have

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like really good agronomic conditions. And when you think about

0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 1>championship golf, those are where all the great courses are.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>So it leaves you with the West coast and the southeast. Yeah,

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>so it's it's this is uh, we're talking about future

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>PGAs and not not the one at hand.

0:38:13.960 --> 0:38:17.279
<v Speaker 3>I will say, I will say that, Uh, that's one

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 3>thing I appreciate about this one is like and this

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 3>is a very peripheral concern and not you know, germane

0:38:27.000 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>to what you what you cover Andy, is like it

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 3>is good to go to a market like this that

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 3>probably doesn't get pro golf. Now, I understand the course

0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.479
<v Speaker 3>may not be up to snuff, but like I thought

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>it was like it looked like the crowds were pretty

0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 3>pretty good for Monday, and like I think people there

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.560
<v Speaker 3>are fired up about it. And you know, Saint Louis,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>I think is a fine enough sports town and I

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 3>think that's like good to have a pro golf tournament

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 3>going to the middle, the very middle of the country

0:38:56.120 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 3>into a market that hasn't had anything in twenty years

0:38:59.160 --> 0:38:59.479
<v Speaker 3>or more.

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I agree. Look at what happened when the Solheim

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 1>Cup went to Cedar Rapids. Yeah yeah, or was it

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 1>des Moines? It was des Moines, right, I.

0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Think that's right.

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean it mean when they go to that marathon,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 3>then the women LPGA and Toledo or you know arks,

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 3>like people get into these events if it's like their

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 3>hometown event, pro pro.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Sports event, especially markets that don't usually get big events.

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 2>Sure, am I correct in? Remembering that when Gary Player

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>won in in bell Reeve and whatever it was that

0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that gave him the career Grand Slam and he had

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.560
<v Speaker 2>it before Nicholas? Is that I think I read that

0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>a year before. That's my mind when I I was like,

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.440
<v Speaker 2>really like, Gary Player got the career Grand Slam before Technicals.

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think of them. Gary's a little

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 2>older and so I just think of them as sort

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>of contemporaries. But still that that's kind of a neat

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 2>piece of history there. It was like only the third

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>guy or whatever to do it at that point, or

0:39:58.640 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 2>fourth guy.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>I think there's only one real fix to this whole

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>problem with the PGA. Okay, it needs to go back

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to match play. Go back and brace their history. All right,

0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>so bear with me. Sunday is going to stink. But

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Sunday stinks for the PGA right now. You know, every

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:23.399
<v Speaker 1>day stinks right now for the PGA, like in comparison

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to the other majors. All right, But if you made

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 1>it like thirty six holes of qualifying it stroke qualifying,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>and then you cut it to the top thirty two

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>and you do match play in you could make an

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 1>argument that if you did thirty six holes on Saturday,

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>where it was the round of eight to the four

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to the finalists, that that Saturday and Friday would be

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:50.759
<v Speaker 1>the two best days of major championship golf of the year.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 1>You went from having the four worst days to two

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 1>of the best days. Like that's a huge win.

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree. I think they play It would be

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>exhausting to play thirty six on Saturday or whatever, right

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 2>like they do it, I guess anyway for the match play.

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like it's totally foreign to them. They're

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 2>not carrying their bags, so why not, Yeah, let's do it.

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Moving it into may.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's less like they're not coming right off

0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:18.320
<v Speaker 3>fire sound and doing all that stuff anymore.

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, give them carts. I don't give a shit.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Give them something, you know.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Push cards. It's just the most simple, easiest fix they

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have is out And like, how is there not a

0:41:29.600 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>match play major? There's a reason the PGA was a

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>match play tournament from the start variety. You know, like

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>you've got your Invitational, you've got your big US Championship,

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:46.520
<v Speaker 1>you've got your big Championship of like you know, the

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:50.440
<v Speaker 1>British Islands, and then you have your match play Championship.

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>It makes so much sense.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 2>It really does. Do we know what year did it change?

0:41:58.600 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Like the nineteen seventy I want to say.

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:04.799
<v Speaker 2>There's probably sports writers are behind this. They bullied the

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 2>PGA into taking it into it was probably like I

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know, trying to think of who would have been,

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the seventies, would have been like a

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 2>big powerful sports writer, Irman Bisher, some of the Jenkins, everything,

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>because that's the way it worked. Like one of my

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>biggest gripes in golf history is that sports writers like

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 2>got together and decided that like the Western Open was

0:42:29.280 --> 0:42:33.080
<v Speaker 2>no longer a major, and then like you know, Sarahs

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 2>are like just lost, like all of the majors that

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 2>he had sort of won, like just the fact that

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 2>like you could win like a bunch of majors like

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 2>back in the day, and then all of a sudden

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.440
<v Speaker 2>they didn't count, you know, like it's just crazy to me,

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 2>But that was sports writers. They decided that.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, now we got bloggers and podcasters coming around to

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.640
<v Speaker 3>make force it back into match play.

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:58.000
<v Speaker 1>The last time I played golf, I got to the

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:01.080
<v Speaker 1>course with how my grader? Then sure I had a

0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 1>back nine fade after an even part, thirty five on

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.120
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0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.360
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0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.200
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0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:28.359
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0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>get this train back on on on track. And we

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>got we got a really good question here from Sean Roadhorst.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Does Rory stink?

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

0:43:41.600 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 3>I I enjoyed your note in the newsletter this morning.

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:46.880
<v Speaker 2>About how that was.

0:43:47.000 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 3>That was Will Knights, Oh, Will Knights, how his wedges

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 3>are just like their inexcusable disgrace. It was very strong language.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 3>I liked it, Like it's like this can't go on

0:43:57.560 --> 0:43:58.360
<v Speaker 3>much longer.

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Rory in fourteen I looked this up a while back.

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>He was like proximity the whole Like like from one

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 2>hundred and twenty five yards, he was like fourth in

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:14.240
<v Speaker 2>strokes gained and he's never been That is the only

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 2>year that he's ever been in like the top one hundred,

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:20.360
<v Speaker 2>So like, how did that one outlier? Like what was

0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 2>he doing that year that made him so much better?

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Was it the wedges he was playing? Was it the ball?

0:44:24.840 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Was it? You know, just the way that he sort

0:44:26.840 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, like looked at that, like what

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:33.080
<v Speaker 2>was happening that one year that he was so good

0:44:33.120 --> 0:44:36.000
<v Speaker 2>at it? Why can't he be like just half of that?

0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Why can't he like ranking fiftieth in strokes gained from

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty yards.

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So one thing is that I feel like the majority

0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of the PGA tour has caught up to Rory's prodigious length.

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:53.880
<v Speaker 1>And we saw that yesterday and while we were watching

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bridge Stone, you know, everybody was hitting the ball

0:44:57.200 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>four hundred yards like it's not a big thing anymore.

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:03.399
<v Speaker 1>So Rory used to get wedge opportunities where nobody else

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 1>got them, and now everybody gets wedge opportunities.

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a big part of it. I don't know that that's.

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:16.319
<v Speaker 1>What's what's going on over there.

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, as I was typing some things, is that showing

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 2>up on the podcast here and apologize?

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>You got to throw the mute on if you're gonna

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>just hammer away.

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to continue to make this the top

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:33.439
<v Speaker 2>quality production that it always has been.

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>You were filling in for Smart and admirably in that aspect.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 2>I was so close and now.

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:45.840
<v Speaker 3>That that's that's part of the tradition. Ah, this is

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.000
<v Speaker 3>a casual conference called Vibe always as.

0:45:50.840 --> 0:45:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that why are why are Rory's wedges so like?

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Why can't they be what they are in fourteen? Just

0:45:56.600 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 2>need to watch the film. We need to get them

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.080
<v Speaker 2>as old Nike wedges, Nike vapor things or whatever they were.

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Uh, I don't know, it's just a

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:15.560
<v Speaker 3>different The Sunday fade was really kind of disappointing. I

0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 3>thought for sure, like I think he sees so I

0:46:19.280 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 3>think he walked out of fourteen thinking like, wow, there's

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 3>really just like I am the guy of the next era. Yeah,

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:29.120
<v Speaker 3>and then speed came along so fast. Well we like

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 3>ran away with the Masters, won the US Open, and

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.959
<v Speaker 3>now like whatever, DJ kind of got his acting gear

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.760
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more justin Thomas all of a sudden,

0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 3>like I think he's just I think he's I mean,

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 3>this is getting like kind of far afield from the

0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 3>Wedges specific Wedges issue, but like, I just I don't

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.920
<v Speaker 3>think he expected it to be this competitive, this fath

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I think he thought he was kind of, I don't

0:46:52.719 --> 0:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>know to use a whatever, like a Hackney term, now

0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the alpha of the next kind of generation. And I

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 3>think that really got a lot deeper, a lot faster

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 3>than he anticipated walking out of a twenty fourteen.

0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's uh, it's fascinating, like his uh, his approach

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>to green numbers have declined, like his rank every year

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:22.759
<v Speaker 1>since twenty fourteen. You know, he was like habitually, you know,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:27.319
<v Speaker 1>one of the best on tour, and you know where

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:33.360
<v Speaker 1>he was top thirty guys, Strokes gained approach and now

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.560
<v Speaker 1>he's you know, in the sixties and seventies and Strokes

0:47:36.560 --> 0:47:40.439
<v Speaker 1>gained approach, and I just have I always think back.

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>It's like I think Shackelford had to post up this

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>uh last night on his site about you know, distance

0:47:47.880 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 1>numbers and how like last year ten guys hit average

0:47:52.440 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 1>over three ten and this year fifteen guys have averaged

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>over three ten. And that's and we haven't even gotten

0:47:57.960 --> 0:47:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to the part of the season where they hit the

0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 1>ball the furthest which is the FedEx Cup, when the

0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 1>courses are more dialed in, they aren't as wet, So

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>like we're on on a record pace of guys, So

0:48:08.440 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 1>more and more guys hit the ball really far, which

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was Rory's like big thing. I mean, Rory's the greatest,

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:17.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, probably the greatest driver of the golf ball

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>of this generation. And I think that that skill is

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>becoming more commoditized with today's game of golf, you know,

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>and that's not as big of a differentiator. It's a

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:31.960
<v Speaker 1>huge differentiator from like the short guys on tour to

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the long guys. But there's way more long guys now

0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 1>than there ever were before, So it becomes more about

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>which guys are really long and and also just as

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:44.840
<v Speaker 1>elite with their wedges or you know Putter.

0:48:45.719 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 2>So does he stink? No, he doesn't stink, that's the question. No,

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I think he. I think putting is in

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.440
<v Speaker 2>his head, like I wish that he had more committed

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to that sort of facts and method of like, hell,

0:49:01.120 --> 0:49:03.359
<v Speaker 2>let's screw it, I'm just gonna be athletic and just putt.

0:49:03.960 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>What do you wear? He won bay Hill and was like,

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the Rory that I think he needs to find

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 2>that center again. And you know, eventually over time, if

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.279
<v Speaker 2>he's able to feel comfortable in that, it's when he's

0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 2>to me, it's when he overthinks, overreads it. Just be aggressive,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 2>hit it a few v pass if you have to

0:49:21.680 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 2>make those coming back, you'll be fine. You're gonna give

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.959
<v Speaker 2>yourself enough chances. I want to be Rory's metal coach.

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>That's what I want to be. He needs a social

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 2>media person and a metal coach.

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I would tell Rory what I do is I've started

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to sing comfortably numb by Pink Floyd while I hit

0:49:38.560 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>any types of golf shot interesting. It's actually been liberating.

0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I haven't been playing.

0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 2>The Van Morrison cover version or the one the actual

0:49:49.440 --> 0:49:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Pink Floyd Pink Floyd. I love the Van Morrison cover version.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's actually been you know, it gets my mind.

0:49:56.520 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I've putt it better because I don't think about putting,

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>you know. I I've always struggled with Buddy. So it's ah,

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:06.840
<v Speaker 1>so uh so, who you guys picking for this week?

0:50:09.200 --> 0:50:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Question?

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I wouldn't be surprised if Ferrari one, like he'd

0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>be in my list of four favorites totally.

0:50:17.360 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 2>I think is as wacky as his season has been,

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:24.400
<v Speaker 2>as much as he started regressed in on Sunday, he's

0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 2>definitely I think trending in better direction. Like he played

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:32.560
<v Speaker 2>really well at the Open and so uh, you know,

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 2>he just wasn't quite good enough on Sunday. Was kind

0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of too far back. But I'm gonna pick a wild

0:50:38.320 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 2>horse or whatever I'm gonna say, Patrick Cantley, I think

0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it's where we're due for, like a surprise PGA Tour winner,

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.240
<v Speaker 2>like a not We're gonna get back to back majors

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:50.719
<v Speaker 2>of guys who you would not have necessarily thought we're

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:56.239
<v Speaker 2>going to win a major until they did. Interesting. I

0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like that.

0:50:58.960 --> 0:51:03.879
<v Speaker 3>I justin Thomas, but not like after a fist. Don't

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 3>feel like that's too fascile, like too easy to do.

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't have my pick yet. It's Monday night. I

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:20.120
<v Speaker 3>gotta figure this out. I mean, what about Paul Casey, Okay,

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I gotta sell myself on him.

0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:23.720
<v Speaker 2>You talked some about it already.

0:51:23.920 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna probably stay with Justin Thomas. I think that's

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 3>the smartest and best play. It feels like the PGA

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:34.600
<v Speaker 3>could be his major, like for them whatever decade based.

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:38.759
<v Speaker 2>On is Justin Thomas? Can just Thomas win the Masters

0:51:39.200 --> 0:51:42.040
<v Speaker 2>in the Open Championship with his current game? Like does

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:43.879
<v Speaker 2>this game need to evolve a little bit more? Or

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>am I just like overthinking this and that he's you know,

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:50.840
<v Speaker 2>he just hasn't gotten in contention to either of those majors.

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think he can win with it. I I

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:59.600
<v Speaker 1>think Justin Thomas is unbelievably good. I obviously as evidenced

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>by is what eight wins over the last two years now. Yeah,

0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think just when you look at his game,

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 1>his career arc and like how he's progressed and how

0:52:09.719 --> 0:52:12.800
<v Speaker 1>he's improved, Like I think he's in the top forty

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>of every strokes gain metrics, so off the t approach

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:20.359
<v Speaker 1>around the green and putting and that I mean, if

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he does three of them well in a week, nobody

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>has a chance. Yeah, and that's what we saw a firestone.

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, he drove it great and he wedged it great. Like, who,

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:31.480
<v Speaker 1>how are you gonna beat that guy?

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:32.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So Rory, Jason Day and JT, Like I feel like

0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>that's like your PGA like like you like designed a

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.719
<v Speaker 3>PGA Championship player in a lab, Like those are like

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 3>the guys you especially for even this week, those are

0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.279
<v Speaker 3>that's like a perfect kind of player for this kind

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:50.760
<v Speaker 3>of test.

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:54.360
<v Speaker 1>See our conversation. This is what's great about this PGA

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:58.120
<v Speaker 1>is our conversation earlier about like who has the most game?

0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Because I think what we just talked tot with Rory,

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Rory could have the most of a game.

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's not a bad point.

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.720
<v Speaker 1>JT, JT. If he wins, he's one major behind Speed.

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I think, well, Jason Day, if he wins,

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.000
<v Speaker 2>could completely reset the last few years of like all

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:18.719
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden him Jason Day having two majors, like

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>he should have at least two majors right now. He

0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>was the number one player in the world for a while,

0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.319
<v Speaker 2>like he was by far and away when he won

0:53:25.360 --> 0:53:27.200
<v Speaker 2>that PGA he's by far and away the best player

0:53:27.200 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 2>in the world in that moment. Like that guy, whatever

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 2>happened to him, like was injury or just he can't

0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>sustain it being the guy who swings it look out

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 2>of your shoes every single time. I don't know. I

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 2>think that would would reset a lot about Jason Day.

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I think in our minds, Yeah, they say so, I

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>would say Jason Day also, yeah, like he would. That

0:53:49.200 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 1>second win in a major ties him for second most

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 1>of an Australian all time with Greg Norman. Like he's

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>only behind Peter Thompson. Then yeah, I mean Dustin Johnson

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.280
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. You know, the second major for DJ

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.880
<v Speaker 1>is huge. You know, he's beyond I don't get excited

0:54:06.880 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 1>about a DJ regular PGA Tour win anymore.

0:54:10.360 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like wait, it's yeah, it's time for some majors

0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 2>for DJ. That's what's the only thing it's going to

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:20.279
<v Speaker 2>get me excited about him. I think him hitting forty

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:23.680
<v Speaker 2>yard drives doesn't excite me, but him winning like another

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.000
<v Speaker 2>major would be would be great.

0:54:25.080 --> 0:54:29.840
<v Speaker 1>Here's why the PGA Championship is underrated because twenty years

0:54:30.160 --> 0:54:34.319
<v Speaker 1>from certain Yeah, twenty years from now. We don't like,

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't look at like players and say, well, they

0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>won three PGAs, so those count as one and a

0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>half majors. Yeah, they all count the exact same.

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true. I think PJ should count for point

0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:52.840
<v Speaker 2>seventy five majors personally, but Yozoba should count for like

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 2>one and a half. That's what I was gonna say.

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like, I was gonna go the other direction

0:54:57.400 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 3>with your day take if he has a whistling straits

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.760
<v Speaker 3>and bell reeve major accounts as one.

0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:06.080
<v Speaker 1>But you would say that now. But you know, when

0:55:06.760 --> 0:55:10.479
<v Speaker 1>when Brendan porath Is is writing about golf and and

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>has you know, some acute liver damage from all the

0:55:15.040 --> 0:55:19.160
<v Speaker 1>monsters he's drank over the years, he will remember Jason Day.

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.320
<v Speaker 1>He'll be writing about the good old days when players

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 1>weren't like Jason Day. Now, you know, let me tell

0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you about how great Jason Day was.

0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, you're right, cold Hammer fans or whatever. It's like,

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:35.360
<v Speaker 2>you're right.

0:55:36.000 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 1>It's all right. So I'm going to go with the Kopka.

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm rooting for Kopka. I'm all in on this.

0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>I really want the three major winner with one PGA

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Tour win and I think he putted so bad. Putting

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:52.920
<v Speaker 1>is is a week to week thing. He hit the

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 1>ball grade at Firestone, and I just I think Belle

0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Reeves sets up so perfect for him. I guess the

0:56:00.280 --> 0:56:03.200
<v Speaker 1>rough is really really thick. So I don't I just

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>don't see anybody that doesn't hit it three ten plus

0:56:07.160 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>winning this week.

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask you, what do you what do you think?

0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:14.080
<v Speaker 3>Like we're looking at for scores this week, Like is

0:56:14.120 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 3>this like he's talked about how he like he's perfectly

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.359
<v Speaker 3>cool just hitting into the middle of the greens and

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:23.320
<v Speaker 3>playing out. Obviously he wanted Aaron Hills with the scores

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:26.560
<v Speaker 3>were you know, part of the matter, but scores were better. Like,

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:29.120
<v Speaker 3>what do you see kind of this championship.

0:56:28.600 --> 0:56:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Being I think six to twelve? This is my guess

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 1>if that's is that too big of a range?

0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.480
<v Speaker 2>It's a big if it's.

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.080
<v Speaker 1>A smart If you want me to tighten it up,

0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'll go eight to twelve.

0:56:42.000 --> 0:56:44.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's pretty standard for PGA, right, Like it's pretty

0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 2>rare for PGA to be you know, one to five

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:51.240
<v Speaker 2>or like deeper than you know.

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jason Day, what except the records? What did Jason

0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:54.920
<v Speaker 3>Day get to twenty or something.

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:56.640
<v Speaker 2>He got to twenty, but then I think he bogied

0:56:57.120 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 2>the last and need to get it to nineteen or something. Yeah, yeah,

0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:02.440
<v Speaker 2>finish twenty, finished nineteen or something.

0:57:02.680 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's thick, you know, like the rough's really thick.

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:09.360
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's not like it's not an easy golf course.

0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be soft, most likely the greens. That's a

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.880
<v Speaker 1>That's something that's interesting is that the members haven't been

0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:18.959
<v Speaker 1>playing on the greens all year.

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all year.

0:57:22.680 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 1>They've been playing to temporary greens because I think last year,

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:29.960
<v Speaker 1>as I understand it, last year they lost the greens.

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.680
<v Speaker 1>And then when you know, media hit the ground this week,

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know there are today I saw a lot of

0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:40.440
<v Speaker 1>people taking pictures of the greens and being like this

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't look that good. So it might not be like,

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, the putting might be a little bit.

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It'll be interesting to see how the conditions are. Like

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to be dealing with like I think

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a pristine putting, you know, green that you see at

0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:59.840
<v Speaker 1>a lot of PGA Tour events or like the Master

0:58:00.200 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that's not gonna be Belle Reeve this week.

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:07.240
<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, I know groundskeepers are kind of your constituents.

0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I never feel like that's like one of the hardest childs,

0:58:10.080 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 3>Like I never Yeah, it's like impossible like that. People

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:16.640
<v Speaker 3>are just always bitching about something or other. I just like,

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:20.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how it's it's I don't know, it can't

0:58:20.240 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 3>happen if you have a major I mean, like, well,

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:23.160
<v Speaker 3>you know it's coming.

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:24.360
<v Speaker 1>It's Saint Louis in.

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>August, right, I know nothing.

0:58:26.600 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's just not a great time, like if

0:58:30.480 --> 0:58:33.480
<v Speaker 1>you want to play golf and in Saint Louis, Like

0:58:34.160 --> 0:58:39.640
<v Speaker 1>October is great, May is great, like August is it's

0:58:39.720 --> 0:58:42.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of bad. It's gonna be as Gary said, it's

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:43.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna be very hot.

0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe you guys got Gary Player on this podcast.

0:58:49.160 --> 0:58:51.720
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing yet, I mean, I don't know what. He

0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:53.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't even own a cell phone, right, he just called in.

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Its amazing.

0:58:54.640 --> 0:59:00.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think, uh, I'm sure the medio blow it

0:59:00.600 --> 0:59:04.080
<v Speaker 3>out of proportion, I'll say, because that's what you know,

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.760
<v Speaker 3>we get we get worked up about fescubing chopped back

0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.720
<v Speaker 3>a few feet, you know just what we get upset?

0:59:10.920 --> 0:59:13.920
<v Speaker 2>What we what we feed on what's.

0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Your guys favorite PGA memory of the last like five PGAs, mm.

0:59:19.280 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, five PGAs. Uh, yeah, that's that's unfair. As I had.

0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.080
<v Speaker 2>It's easy to quee up if you could take the

0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>whole accounting of things.

0:59:29.920 --> 0:59:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had to. I had to eliminade Tiger Bob

0:59:32.760 --> 0:59:34.320
<v Speaker 1>May from any consideration.

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Walker playing Lift Clean and Place on the thirty

0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:44.600
<v Speaker 3>six halls on Sunday to win the first major under

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Lift Clean and Place it.

0:59:47.280 --> 0:59:52.160
<v Speaker 2>So fitting I covered that solo. None of people were there,

0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.880
<v Speaker 2>so you don't get to talk about the Jimmy Walker experience.

0:59:55.080 --> 0:59:57.280
<v Speaker 2>All right. That's like you don't talk about a war

0:59:57.360 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that you didn't serve in.

0:59:58.480 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I was there for that.

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:03.960
<v Speaker 2>That was I still have to talk to my therapist

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 2>about the strong. Oh yeah, I mean Rory dusting the

1:00:11.360 --> 1:00:14.280
<v Speaker 2>field in Kio was pretty amazing. We were talking about

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Andy and I were talking about the podcast last time

1:00:16.360 --> 1:00:19.680
<v Speaker 2>about how Rory went like sixty six six seventy five

1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:23.880
<v Speaker 2>six six sixty eight. It was the most Rory major ever.

1:00:24.360 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Maybe is that one horrendous round and then just completely

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:28.680
<v Speaker 2>boat raced everyone.

1:00:29.640 --> 1:00:33.400
<v Speaker 3>I like, I like, my favorite memory is like burned Weisburger,

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 3>like just fairly existing in twenty fourteen, like literally just

1:00:38.200 --> 1:00:41.280
<v Speaker 3>not even. He's like a marker for the final group,

1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:45.200
<v Speaker 3>like you got Ricky Phil like playing a hat and

1:00:45.320 --> 1:00:50.000
<v Speaker 3>then like Wusburgers just there. I'm terrible for the guy.

1:00:50.120 --> 1:00:51.640
<v Speaker 3>All of a sudden, he's got to play up the

1:00:51.680 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 3>eighteenth in the dark like that.

1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:56.959
<v Speaker 1>That was a memorable moment though, that eighteenth fent dark.

1:00:57.480 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, oh yeah, that's a legit. That's the

1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.640
<v Speaker 2>big people like really realize how close Rory was hitting

1:01:02.680 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 2>in the water off that T shot, Like that shot

1:01:05.400 --> 1:01:07.720
<v Speaker 2>was like three feet from being in the water and

1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:10.600
<v Speaker 2>completely blowing that PGA for him because he was insistent

1:01:10.640 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 2>on hitting that T shot, but it wasn't. It stayed

1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>up and then he bully fell into playing through that.

1:01:16.440 --> 1:01:19.480
<v Speaker 1>That moment sticks with me. But I I go back

1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Kiwa PGA and I think about Ernie's tough

1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:27.600
<v Speaker 1>luck in majors all the time, where he finished runner

1:01:27.680 --> 1:01:30.160
<v Speaker 1>up to VJ and Tiger and like three or four

1:01:30.200 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 1>consecutive majors back in the day. I mean, David Lynn

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 1>finished runner up.

1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I hope we get David Lynn on the next week's podcast.

1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Talk about the slander that he faced two product vodkas

1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:50.600
<v Speaker 2>in a row. David Lynn, I mean.

1:01:52.520 --> 1:01:57.000
<v Speaker 1>He would go right alongside like Sean mckeel is, the

1:01:57.040 --> 1:02:00.520
<v Speaker 1>most obscure major champions of all time.

1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeahhead was absolutely true.

1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anything else that David Lynn ever did

1:02:07.040 --> 1:02:10.160
<v Speaker 1>in his career other than finished runner up in that major.

1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Don't you think we're I mean, as much as we

1:02:12.440 --> 1:02:15.080
<v Speaker 2>talk about like this is going to be set up

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<v Speaker 2>for someone who hits the three hundred yards, has that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of eliminated those like surprise majors and someone like

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<v Speaker 2>will we ever see a Ben Curtis win a major again?

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<v Speaker 2>Or Sean mcchiale or like a total like a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's ranked outside the top you know, one hundred basically.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't Ben Curtis like ranked five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>in the world or something in that moment when he won.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Win a day with Todd Hamilton. Todd Hamilton hybrids all

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<v Speaker 2>the way anywhere else that I don't think anybody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to ever win a major hitting hybrids into the par

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<v Speaker 2>fours anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, uh, I think that's a good point. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, it's it's God, it seems less prevalent. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have to look at it trying to think of

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<v Speaker 3>the last like super fluky major winner we had, Like

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Jimmy Walker, as much shit as you want to

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<v Speaker 3>give him, was like a legit superstar talent, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>not super I mean legit top of the world balance.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing, is like we haven't had I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Willett and Jimmy Walker are I mean the last.

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<v Speaker 1>The next one would be I mean Duffner. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>consider Duffner really fluky either.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's good. He was good. Yeah, Keegan was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fluky, right, I mean, nobody really knew who Kegan was.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't like he had a great amateur career or

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<v Speaker 2>like anything that you would you know that that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of out of the blue and has progressed in

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Cabrera fluke in the sense that he won two

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<v Speaker 1>majors a fluke that happened twice.

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<v Speaker 3>Two majors in the Military Tribute. He's never actually won

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<v Speaker 3>an event the Military Tribute.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, I mean that's that's the thing is, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there haven't been many fluccated that could be a

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<v Speaker 1>byproduct of it. There is less variability in the golf

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<v Speaker 1>tournament because it's almost a prerequisite to hit it three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards unless you're Zach Johnson.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope Keka's career finish this with like five majors

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<v Speaker 2>and two PGA Tour victories.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. It could like, I mean, is

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a crazy thing to have happened. Yeah, isause, what.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it says more about him or the tour?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that you answer that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it says more about the PGA Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it shows that the setups are soft

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<v Speaker 1>and that I don't think it necessarily. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>when you play true championship golf, it it really usually

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<v Speaker 1>identified the the big dogs and and who's the best

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<v Speaker 1>players in the world at that time. I think when

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<v Speaker 1>and I maybe I'm overblowing majors, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>like his major record, in his PGA Tour record, there's

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong there. You know, the guy is just an

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<v Speaker 1>absolute beast in major championships. He was really good on

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<v Speaker 1>the on the European Tour too, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the PGA Tour, like he's like average,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like a middle of the road PGA Tour player.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, Tiger used to say he

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<v Speaker 2>had no interest in playing the birdie fests, you know

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<v Speaker 2>where he had to shoot twenty to win. He wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to play the hard ones. But he still won. He

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<v Speaker 2>won so often that I don't know that that really

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<v Speaker 2>the facts quite add up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can never consider Tiger Woods in any

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<v Speaker 1>you know, comparison to anybody. Yeah, like that's it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy. But I don't know. I I guess like

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<v Speaker 1>that's like I know that the thing with the tour

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<v Speaker 1>is that they have parameters that they set a tournament

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<v Speaker 1>up in and everything's within a certain parameter and nothing

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<v Speaker 1>goes outside the box. Yeah, you know, And I would

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<v Speaker 1>say that the major championship setups are typically outside of

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<v Speaker 1>that parameter box that the PGA Tour has.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that should start giving more control over to

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<v Speaker 3>like title sponsors, do you like course set up, start

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<v Speaker 3>getting things real tricked up, all weird, like you got

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<v Speaker 3>like Big Jim Justice walking in, Yeah, putting like windmills

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, holes, and it just it should just

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<v Speaker 3>start like seating tours, just start seating control to like

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<v Speaker 3>the horse, the host, sponsor and course.

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<v Speaker 1>So so you just uh that se you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO interview on Sundays would be a lot more interesting too.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's dangerous because you can't just see it to the

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<v Speaker 2>like the wild CEOs. Then you got to seat it

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<v Speaker 2>all CEOs, and some of those CEOs are like the

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<v Speaker 2>most boring, whitest dudes in the country. So like, what

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<v Speaker 2>if they set up the most vanilla set up possible,

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<v Speaker 2>like they already maybe they already are doing that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's possible the setups could get worse in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a big it's a big risk. More out there. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Bob Parsons wants to sponsor a tournament and make

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<v Speaker 2>it like crazy kom baby on every hole.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they he might make it, you know, mandatory

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<v Speaker 1>to become a troop for the week.

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<v Speaker 3>You got like the guy from Ballast Bar, like going

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<v Speaker 3>like boisey boise state on the greens, like making them

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<v Speaker 3>different colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a little whacky.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's uh, let's get into overrated and underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless you guys have any parting things or thoughts that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about about the PGA.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I mean I was more like if we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing the same Louis thing. I was like, my enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 3>for this was like a like an seven to nine

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Fisher ram season. But I've like I've come around

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<v Speaker 3>to it, like more of the you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, your ten and six Steelers season.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe fastest showing you know whatever. Maybe we'll get some

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<v Speaker 3>good players.

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<v Speaker 2>And Mike Mart's era kind of round. Yeah, yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>letting Mark Bulder get creamed.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a crappy NFC West Division title, but like an

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<v Speaker 3>early eggs in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I just I look at these the players,

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<v Speaker 1>and I look at so many of them if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't win a major, if they don't win this major,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could make a case that they've had a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad season.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many big names that didn't haven't won

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<v Speaker 1>a major, like just because of the way it is

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<v Speaker 1>now with so many superstars and quotes and so few

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<v Speaker 1>majors that this is That's the captivating thing about about

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<v Speaker 1>the PGAs it's Glory's last chance, you know, last shot.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe maybe PG Championship underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>This is major.

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<v Speaker 2>We taught at the beginning, we sort of were kind

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<v Speaker 2>of down on the PGA, and now we've really talked

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves into it's being super important. Well that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a major championship and those are special, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>only four weeks a year. Like as much as apathy

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<v Speaker 3>as you can have about different things around it, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it's a major championship and there are only four a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to not to bring this, not to bring this

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<v Speaker 1>ship down, but TN T overrated, underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna punt on this. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm allowed to comment on other networks. Well I

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<v Speaker 2>do not need to punt.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean CNT, like before before bashing coverage became a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>CNT is annual the worst broadcast of the year, like annually,

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<v Speaker 3>and like they're in a tight spot. You gotta like

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<v Speaker 3>cater to the host organization. So you get the things

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<v Speaker 3>with like you know, the playing tips from Michael Breed

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of hammering you over the head when you

1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:06.800
<v Speaker 3>know players are actually playing golf. You know, you do

1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:10.800
<v Speaker 3>the PGA professional stuff get you gotta kind of serve

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<v Speaker 3>the host organization. But like it's just it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the experts before I started doing this for a living

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<v Speaker 3>would always say it was the worst broadcast of the year,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's kind of held that mantle. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of commercials, a lot of just like

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<v Speaker 3>fluff mixed in. I love Ernie Johnson, he's great, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it's just a different and you get like

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<v Speaker 3>the CBS production with a lot of kind of PGA

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<v Speaker 3>of America fluff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not great, Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's abysmal. I mean, TNT knows drama that they

1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:55.599
<v Speaker 1>do not know how to showcase golf drama. I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should be allowed to telecast a

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<v Speaker 1>golf event if you don't telecast any other golf off

1:11:00.120 --> 1:11:02.160
<v Speaker 1>events for an entire year, like you're just not going

1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:05.960
<v Speaker 1>to be good at it. Yeah, Like like Tiger says,

1:11:05.960 --> 1:11:10.200
<v Speaker 1>you need reps, that's true. Like it is let alone

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<v Speaker 1>a major.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's true. We've talked our friend Shane Bacon talks

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<v Speaker 2>about how much better that their crew is now that

1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:20.360
<v Speaker 2>they've gotten to do like the USAM and the Women's

1:11:20.360 --> 1:11:23.080
<v Speaker 2>SAM and the you know, like even that's the thing

1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:26.519
<v Speaker 2>where the PGA professionals go out and play against one another,

1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:28.920
<v Speaker 2>like you just you do it together a lot and

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<v Speaker 2>you get better at it. You're right, you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>good unless you actually, you know, get the rims.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like they're getting that Tiger VERSUSIL match by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>They know drama. I can't wait for that match because

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<v Speaker 1>then you know it will be like the NBA playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>where I fall asleep with the coverage on and I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up and Charmed charms on.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the other thing, you know, how Fox goes Like

1:11:59.280 --> 1:12:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Fox goes a lot. I'm at nine am, Like TNT

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<v Speaker 3>comes on at like eleven, you know, Tiger goes off

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<v Speaker 3>at eight twenty, and like we have to watch four

1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:14.840
<v Speaker 3>episodes of SVU and you know, Charmed and Bones and

1:12:14.880 --> 1:12:18.160
<v Speaker 3>all this other. Like CNT like doesn't have stuff going

1:12:18.160 --> 1:12:21.040
<v Speaker 3>on on Thursday and Friday morning, but like they just

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<v Speaker 3>like bleed you out and wait until like eleven am.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I really enjoyed the part where Poreth gave

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<v Speaker 2>like a really nuanced long thing and then Andy was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yeah, it's abysmos is the word of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's do more Overrated under.

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<v Speaker 1>It, overrated, underrated, Nelly, helly.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to hear a lot of Nelly, having covered

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<v Speaker 2>the Ravens for all those years that was Ray Lewis's thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and come out to Hot in Here, and so I

1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:55.960
<v Speaker 2>definitely got weary of it. Uh definitely would say overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did hear like a like a Glee Club

1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:01.639
<v Speaker 2>version of Hot in Here once it was like really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyable and maybe like rethink it, so I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to like completely trash it. But mostly I'd say overrated.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, I mean talking about Hot in Here is

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<v Speaker 3>like talking about like twenty twenty fifteen Tiger Woods versus

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<v Speaker 3>like two thousand. Like, no, I don't know why Hot

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<v Speaker 3>in Here became a big thing. Like Country Grammar is

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<v Speaker 3>one of the greatest rap songs all time. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>exactly where I was when I heard it for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Air Force ones is good.

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<v Speaker 1>Up a fish, Don't Fry in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember being a sophomore in high school a Country

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<v Speaker 3>Grammar came on, Remember exactly like that song like whatever

1:13:49.680 --> 1:13:51.640
<v Speaker 3>it got played a lot. But if you listen to

1:13:51.680 --> 1:13:53.880
<v Speaker 3>that now, like you would still think that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, draft on high school straight to the pros.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Nelly, for that song alone is underrated, like

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<v Speaker 3>that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That is an all time Nelly. I was about the

1:14:06.320 --> 1:14:09.680
<v Speaker 1>same age, and I'll never forget. My buddy had like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the first disc drives that could rewrite CDs,

1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:17.599
<v Speaker 1>so he just burned all of our buddies, you know,

1:14:17.880 --> 1:14:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Nelly country grammar, and we, I mean we blasted that Nelly.

1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Nelly's got a special place in my heart. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's from Saint Louis. I will say Saint Louis way underrated.

1:14:30.760 --> 1:14:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge Cubs fan, but man, they love Cardinal

1:14:34.200 --> 1:14:38.000
<v Speaker 1>Baseball way more than like any It's even healthy to

1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:42.000
<v Speaker 1>love it, you know, so good sports city actually so.

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<v Speaker 2>Overrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Underrated slogans for major championships.

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<v Speaker 2>Overrated of course.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is like the issue is when you

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<v Speaker 3>try to find something that's subjective and like force it

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<v Speaker 3>down our throat and make it objective, like there's just

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<v Speaker 3>like this, you know, Glory's last shot is just like

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like a nonsense like subjective crazy marketing term.

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<v Speaker 3>Live under par like what who got paid to do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like you just you get you just just say we

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<v Speaker 3>have the strongest field in golf. That's an objective truth.

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<v Speaker 3>They invite with the strongest field and major championship golf.

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<v Speaker 3>They invite the top one hundred every year without fail

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<v Speaker 3>like that, just like you don't need to say this

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<v Speaker 3>is major. You don't need to say like Glory's last shot.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the problem is you get these marketing terms marketing people,

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<v Speaker 3>like that's how you get from the toughest test in

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<v Speaker 3>golf to now the ultimate test in golf for the

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<v Speaker 3>US Open. Like it's just stop trying to like play

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<v Speaker 3>with words and just say what you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it all right, I would say underrated in

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<v Speaker 2>there like my like I enjoy I enjoy making lots

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<v Speaker 2>of whites cracks about uh you know. I send a

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<v Speaker 2>note to Comport this year and I was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to be at the fifth Major? From

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<v Speaker 2>the PJ And he's like fifth, We're like the seventh

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be. I'm gonna hashtag a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like seventh Major, n seventh Major champion is Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>Shop, What was worse? What was worse Glory's last shot?

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<v Speaker 1>Or this is major?

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<v Speaker 2>This is major? It's not even close. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think Glory's last shot is horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Glory's last shot is so like, oh, just

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<v Speaker 3>like treacly and purple, like dumb. It's like a Jim

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<v Speaker 3>Nancel Jim Nancys. But this is Major is so so

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<v Speaker 3>base and stupid. I mean I'm not sure, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think we've overinflated like that. That thing's history. I did

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<v Speaker 3>that last more than like a year. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>lasted like a year, like it will last forever in

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<v Speaker 3>our hearts and minds.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone built a second home in Malibu based on This

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<v Speaker 2>is Major. That's infuriating. It can't be that hard to

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<v Speaker 2>be a marketing guy. That's what you come live under.

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<v Speaker 2>Par and this is Major and Glory's last shot or

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<v Speaker 2>like winning campaigns.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like anything, Usually things are the best when they

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<v Speaker 1>just naturally happen, right, So they should just let it

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<v Speaker 1>naturally go. I think they're starting to do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they started to realize, yeah, hey, we it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the why there's a backlash to the President's Cup and

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<v Speaker 1>and why you know, people hate when you say that

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<v Speaker 1>the Players is the fifth Major because if you try

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<v Speaker 1>and force something, it's not going to work out. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we haven't talked about Tiger at all, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of absurd surprising.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, does he have any does he have any

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<v Speaker 1>shot this week?

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger's season over it and underrated, underrated, under underrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that guy was ever going to play

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<v Speaker 1>golf again. Like ten months ago.

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<v Speaker 3>He led a major on the back behind on Sunday

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<v Speaker 3>he made at the Masters.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's playing golf like that is so exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a top He's had a top twenty five player

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<v Speaker 3>in the world type season without a win.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally. Do you guys ever get angry tweets from about

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<v Speaker 2>people who are like why are you talking so much

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<v Speaker 2>about Tiger? Like it's amazing, It's amazing how short sighted

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<v Speaker 2>those are, Like, oh my god, of course I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about Tiger like he was he could barely

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<v Speaker 2>walk a year ago when he was leading a major

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<v Speaker 2>this year, Like that's nuts it. We don't only talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Tiger guy. We just spent an hour talking about

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<v Speaker 2>agronomy and stuff like, but you know it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's I spent a long time like following him around

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning the year, and that's why I was in

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<v Speaker 2>Riera and like thinking and wrote like a five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>word essay, and it was like, you know, got like

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<v Speaker 2>a million views our website. That got there a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people care about Tiger. It's Tiger is important.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh yeah, I uh he's He's important. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna do well this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. I think he's gassed. He's pretty tired.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs to take take a couple weeks off get

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<v Speaker 2>ready for that FedEx Cup playoff Chase.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he really need to get ready for that? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he needs to make the Ryder Cup team. Though

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<v Speaker 2>Is he on the Ryder Cup team?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather have him just take the whole FedEx Cup

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs off?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Yeahs Cup playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like it adds nothing to his career. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the whole thing. Like only thing that major matters

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<v Speaker 1>for Tiger at this point forward is majors. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that matters. Yeah, to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 1>Like that's where a lot of players get at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of their career, where like Phil like another PGA

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<v Speaker 1>tour when it doesn't matter. Majors are the only thing

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<v Speaker 1>that really matter.

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<v Speaker 3>So all right, I think Labner had a good article

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<v Speaker 3>today about how is his swing speeds have gone down

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<v Speaker 3>interesting every event six six months per hours since the

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<v Speaker 3>Honda and just every event really since Walls far ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And then a bunch of truthers started jumping in about

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<v Speaker 3>how he switched his shaft and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy. But yeah, no, he's there's no reason for him

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<v Speaker 2>to play the fact Cup.

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<v Speaker 3>None, none, especially once could mean like going into the

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<v Speaker 3>Ryder Cup. He played whatever six times and seven of it, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just there's no reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I think he's a lock for the

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<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup as is, assuming he's healthy. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's that's changing anything. So all right, guys, uh

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<v Speaker 1>we will talk to you soon. Enjoy the PGA and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Andy, Pleasure Boys. Number two of the books

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's second Martin, you've.

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<v Speaker 1>Been listening to the fried Egg podcast. We do the

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<v Speaker 1>digging for you.