WEBVTT - Did Desegregation Help? 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:06.720 Right, y'all. I'm across the USC Compton Mats Bank to 0:00:06.960 --> 0:00:11.959 l A from on the California the Valley. We represent 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.840 that Kelly County. So if you're keeping it reil on 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:18.160 your side of your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles. 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:24.200 The goals are gonna tell you how we go. If 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.680 I line my nose all girl like Pinocchio, We're gonna 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.400 tell you the truth and nothing but the truth the Chronicals. 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.600 This is not your average show. You're now tuned into 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.920 the Rail m c A, Big James and Bix Fields 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:48.519 the Streets. 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Yeah, you know, one of the early 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.080 members of the No Limit Records family. You know, he 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:28.039 was really instrumental as those guys made the transition with 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:30.680 just being a local record label to going on to 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.440 doing amazing things for which you know, first in court 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:37.360 because she was around throwing those times for sure. For sure. Um. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.600 You know I signed with with No Limit in nine five, 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.080 and uh, when I signed with No Limit UM, and 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.920 when I flew out to uh Oakland, Pia flew us 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.680 out to Oakland and Tobin of course was vice president 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.560 at the time, and uh that's where I first came 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.840 to meet him. Super cool dude, Uh, super intelligent, um, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.440 you know, very well spoken, very articulately. He was at 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.720 that time kind of like, um, I would say, the 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.280 face on the business side, you know what I mean. 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.200 Because he was so polished and well spoken, he could 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.679 get into those doors that that it was a little 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.440 easier for him to get in and Peak um still 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:17.399 representing No Limit UM. And even after the split him 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.240 from No Limit which was soon thereafter that I got 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.960 to No Limit UM. I did some albums with him 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:26.280 as well with me and Mine Entertainment probably like uh nineties. 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.079 He actually helped with my C CG projects. Um and 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.000 you know, always a cool dude, always willing to give 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:38.680 some information, share some knowledge, wisdom and understanding. Um. And 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:42.000 even as a recently, Uh it was an overseas play 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.480 for my back catalog and he put me up on 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.600 that didn't ask for a dime, you know what I'm saying. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:50.160 So you know, the very ethical dude as far as 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:53.320 I knew. UM, cool dude man, you know, so arrest 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.280 in piece of tobin. Um. You know, condolecence to his family, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.040 his son, his daughter, his wife Adina, who I knew that. 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.880 You know, he love very much heat I've been hearing 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.000 the Dina's name twenty plus years back, you know what 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:08.280 I mean. So family guys. So good guy, restued peace 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.120 bro and definitely a very intuitive person. You know, I 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.800 believe he was teaching class. He was actually a professor 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.280 at cal Berkeley if I'm not mistaken. You know, he 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.800 was just a very good guy man and he was 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:25.680 able to maneuver through different crowds like and he took 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.360 me up. It's almost like he's still work in the afterlife. 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.200 We actually license a piece of content from a guy 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.520 DeAndre air Ball Aware from the baby, that's like one 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.800 of the renowned artists. And I remember told me hitting 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.120 me up, like, man, I need you to get with 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.440 my boy. Man. You need to put his story on 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.320 your platform and just an incredible dude. Man. So prayers 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.800 to him, his family and his children. And I know 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.960 James Hu suffered some losses this weekend as well. Yeah, 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:56.080 well actually I was. I have two club brothers from 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.760 children who was just passed away. My rider died, Monster 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:05.480 and my boy Bear. Uh. I'm talking about some real cats. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:09.120 I don't care what it was if we had an issue, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.600 they was there. Uh. And I'm talking about all the 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:18.160 way from Las Vegas too to Oakland, from Las Vegas 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.560 to St. Louis. You know, they was always willing and 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.240 ready to go. And then by other club brother, Chill, 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.440 you know, he lost his moms the other day too, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:34.400 So you know, three in a week. So you know 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:40.159 in Monster and Cheerless cousin. So Man, I sent my 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.840 condolences to Chill his mom's and you know his cousin Master. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:50.239 You know those my brothers. You know, condolences to you brother, 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:54.440 you know what I mean, and to their famils. Before 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:58.839 we go into uh tonic subject, Man, I wanted to 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.960 say something real quick. I don't know if it's because 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.120 we're getting older or it's because it's just you know, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.080 in the black community, man, we suffer from trauma, and 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.440 we usually start suffering from trauma to young age. We 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.280 just don't know what it is. You know. We may 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:17.960 hear about a friend dying in school, a classmate, and 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.720 it just becomes all too common in our communities. Um, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.200 I believe Tobin passed away from a heart condition. And 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.359 Tobin wasn't a fat person. Tobin wasn't a shape. He 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.960 just wasn't a typical you know, when you think about 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:33.200 people having a heart attack, usually think about people being obese, 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:38.040 you know, for more of an obesity um or having 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.960 bad habits, you know, bad living habits. But Tobin was 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.880 actually one of the cleanest people I knew for sure. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.400 So let's go out there and uh make sure health 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.240 is wealth. Health is true wealth. I don't care how 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.520 much money you have, It does you no good being 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.960 six ft underground. Um, it probably needs you here and 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.720 you need to hear for yourself. Be selfish. So you 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.560 kind of like, I'm sorry not to cut you off, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.040 but like we were talking about yesterday, still, um, I think, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.400 you know, us, especially as minorities, as black men, we 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.280 got to really focus on preventative healthcare, you know what 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.919 I'm saying, because we already you know, have these these 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.360 genetic dispositions. You know what i mean, we already at 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:25.520 a disadvantage, uh genetically. So I think a lot of times, uh, man, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.279 get your check ups, you know what I'm saying, like 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.599 we were talking about before, and get your prostate check up, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.080 get your your blood pressure. Just go for your physical 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.120 so you can you know, God for be it. If 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.200 it's something wrong, you can catch it. And then the 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.880 other part of it is it's some life insurance. You 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.800 know what I'm saying. Get some life insurance. So that 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.320 way when because listen, none of us are gonna make 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:46.880 it out a live you know what I mean, none 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:48.359 of us are gonna make it out of your lives 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:50.440 or get some life insurance or at least your people 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.840 can be straight. It ain't even like you gotta lead 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.720 him millions of dollars, but at least fair minimum, leave 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:57.760 them enough to be able to bury you, you know 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.400 what I'm saying, so they don't have to stress for that. 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:03.520 In life issurances a couple dollars a month, you know exactly, 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.240 And that's what I was gonna say. You know, you 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:08.120 can go get a hundred thousand dollar policy from and 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.760 I think it's maybe eleventh dollars a month, depending on 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:13.320 your health, depending on if you don't know, you know 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:15.720 certain things, if you drink, if you smoke a razor up. 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:19.080 But still, you know, not just to bury you, but 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.440 so your family can pay your billers, because believe it 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:27.440 or not, death death does not absolve you of your debts, 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.480 right right, So if you old taxes, if you owe 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.800 anybody money, they're still come after your family. So leave 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.760 enough money to bury you and for them back taxes 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.000 that you may owe, and just that way. So this 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.280 would be a difficult transition for them already. You don't 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.800 want to make it more difficult by adding that financial burthon. Man, Listen, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.400 the worst thing you you see so many young niggas 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.560 in the hood that will get to a little bit 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.679 of money, you know what I'm saying, that have some jury, 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.920 they have some cars, they'll have all the little accouchments 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.360 of street success. They're get knocked down. A family gotta 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.080 do a go fund me, you know it don't go 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.600 fund me because I'm gonna tell you when you in 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.800 the game. Anybody that owes that to you, it's not 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.880 like they will come and give your mama that money. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.080 It's not like they will come and get at home, 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:17.280 use that money or nothing else that's done. So in 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.680 a lot of cases I've seen to where some brothers 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.520 have been well off, their parents don't know where the 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.280 money is at. They don't know where the money is. 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.440 Happened every time, every time, nobody knows where the money is. Yeah, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.840 and the baby mama probably got it. And she A's 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.480 saying that, but somebody knows where that money is at. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.600 Something that you know, broad across town got it, you 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:40.120 know what I mean. But but that's how we are though. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.320 You know what I'm saying. You know, a lot of 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.400 us I want to live secret lives. We got all 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.840 this money. We don't want the family to know where 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:52.360 is that? But like myself, you know, I'm preparing for 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.959 my grandkids. You know, my kids has grown. I'm preparing 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.840 for my grandkids so they can be good. Yeah, so 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.040 you know least would be ready for that. You know 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.640 what I'm saying. I don't want I don't want them 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:09.920 out there watching cars to bury me. I don't want that, 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:18.280 so pries and ship Yeah, exactly, you gotta be ready, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:23.240 exactly exactly. You know, Um, I want to go in 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:28.760 and talk about desegregation, which was real big in my 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.680 air corps. I know it's big in my airic James, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.280 did it start in your air a little bit where 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:36.920 they started trying to ship you guys off from Compton? Yeah, 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.800 the other areas nice areas. So I guess you know, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.760 the United States had this um playing that they were 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.240 going to unite the world or whatever, right, so they 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.800 started really you know, busting us from the east side 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.960 of Cleveland to the west side and vice versa. When 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.560 after we left middle school, you will see the white 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:55.760 guys from the west side in our high school on 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:57.880 the east side. You feel what I'm saying. Ye, And 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.760 I was having the Converse station with glasses earlier to 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:05.120 day and we kind of spoke about that and all 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.400 of this came about. You know, there have been a 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.560 couple of things over the last week, and so you know, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.480 the pictures came up with Jerry Jones of him at 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:18.080 this um antidisegregation rally or whatever it was that had 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:19.719 a picture of him. He was probably a little key 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.120 back then. And I'm pretty sure the area they were in. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.079 Jerry Jones, the old man, he's a geriatric man pretty much. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.240 For our practical birds purposes, he has to be in 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.400 the seventies if not his age right, So I'm pretty 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.960 sure during that time he was a part of that 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.679 little crowd. And so I'm not getting in here to 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.560 fashion the night because we don't know what he was 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.360 doing there. He could have just been a kid. They're 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.559 looking like most ys, we always got our nose and 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:46.320 something or involved in something. We have no business doing it. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.840 We don't even know what's going on. But I wonder, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.240 man from a standpoint, sometimes, if some instances of desegregation 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.000 may have hurt the black community, let me look good. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.160 Let me shay this head. First, I want to say, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.839 if you, if if you look at all of those 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:10.480 pictures where you've seen the klansmen hanging a black man 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.840 and send him on fire, they had their little boys there. 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:21.959 They were teaching their kids how to hate. So you 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.520 might have some that didn't like that, you know what 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.520 I'm saying, And you had those that grew up with 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:33.880 hating black people, that were racists. So I'm not gonna 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.520 say he was racist. I mean, hell, how many black 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.520 guys he got on his football team? But what do 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:43.000 that matter? You know, they played football, they're making money. 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:47.200 But I'm not getting a sugarcoat and then say he 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.719 looked like he was old enough to know what that, 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.720 why he was there, what what the situation was about. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.680 So I'm not gonna say they wouldn't racist. At that time, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.559 he probably was. But as he got older, Oh that 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.000 ship ain't no good, It ain't this, and it's not that. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.960 So maybe he changed. But the fact that the matter 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:12.520 is he was there and his pops, our grandfather, whoever 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.880 he was with him, guarantee you is with somebody in 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:19.000 the family, our friends. He knew exactly what was going on. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:23.720 So you know, we we we as black people are 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.000 quick to say, oh no, they're not racist or they bullshit. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:30.160 Come on, man, let's let's let's stop doing that. Let's 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:34.320 stop doing that, let's stop sugarcoating ship. And Lebron James 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.679 actually stood up and said, why y'all they asked me 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:42.600 about the photo. Why y'all? When when? When? What's his 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.200 name did this? Or what's his name did that? Y'all 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:49.360 want to ask me what's my take on it? Yeah, 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.400 you see what I'm saying what I was going to 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.880 because my thing is this him being in that era. 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:59.000 I'm pretty sure his parents race as hill. I don't 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.880 know you. My thing is this, by me not knowing them, 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.880 I'm giving them kind of the benefit of the doubt 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:07.480 because he could have evolved through his dealings with because, 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.960 like you said, he's a professional football so he's dealing 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.079 with black people all day. Every day he has to 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:15.679 send the league is black. You know what I'm saying. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:20.160 So who's the saying that he didn't change? But his 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:24.560 relationship with these black players he has is strictly monetary. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:26.920 He needs them to win games. And I'm gonna tell 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.960 you this, I don't care how racist a white persons. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.840 I don't care how racist a black person kneels the 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:35.360 color of green NULLI fires any previous beach that you 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.480 may have in some cases, right, you know, in some 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.400 cases because you've got some people, it's like, I don't 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.280 give a damn how much money deals I'm not missing 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:47.240 with no names. We didn't know about accountability, right, so 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:51.040 let's be accountable for our chick. You in this picture. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.880 You're not there at a at a football pep. Rather 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.240 you you you know what you're there for. You're older 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.560 enough to know what you're there for. You know what 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:04.680 I'm saying, And that's just saying, here go a picture. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.200 He's in it. It's a cleans meeting. Everybody gotta say, yeah, 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:14.320 that's what it is. So don't go say that picture 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.720 was forty five years ago, so that ain't him no more. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:22.520 You don't know what the fuck he is. But we 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:25.960 are quick to bash our own people first before we 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.760 even really before reality hit when it comes to a 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.960 white person. What I'm saying and I'm not racist. I 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.280 was married to a white woman, so I ain't racist. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:41.640 But we gotta look at our own ship before everybody else. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.160 I mean, I think you know, it's not necessarily a 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:50.880 disreputable moment for him because we gotta understand the error 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:53.520 not to let him off the hook, um, you know, 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.760 not to absolve him of anything. But at the same time, 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.240 think about it, man, we all grow we all like 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.640 man listen as a gangster rapper, right, So if you 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.720 go and look at one of my solo album covers 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:09.000 from the nineties, I mean, I'm holding guns, I got braids, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.560 I'm posing with a butt naked, chick hole and a 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.560 chopper all of that. Right, Um, that's twenty plus years ago. 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.480 That's not where I'm at now, That's that's not me now, 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.360 you know what I'm saying. So I think we have 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.440 to allow people to be able to grow. Um, and 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.760 especially when you talk about context. You know, be being 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.520 from Kansas City, Missouri, you know that's a place where 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.480 you're made to feel your color. It's the Midwest, So 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.920 you know, they're still white people that still referred to 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.040 black people older you know, his age, they still say color. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.720 You know what I mean. Now, you give him a 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.360 pass because you understand they don't mean it like that. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.280 You understand come from a different era. So um, So 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.640 I think that the fact that you know, we don't 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:52.840 know what his heart is, you know what I'm saying, 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.320 We we don't know how he's evolved. I mean, like 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.080 like still said, you you know, you could give him 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.600 the benefit of the doubt. But the other side to that, though, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.880 is what Lebron brought up is a great point is 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.600 the fact that you know, come on, let's be fair. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.320 That's all we're saying. Let's be fair. So the same 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.360 way we get crucified and we get dealt with so 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:17.200 heavy handedly because of our perceived missteps. Let's not get 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.520 quiet with here, you know what I'm saying, like, let's 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.520 just just just give it the same light. That's all 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:24.040 we're saying. Let me give it the same fire that 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:27.200 you gave Kyrie, that you give all of us if we, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.560 you know, make a mistake or whatever the case may be, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.800 because we don't get we don't have the luxury of 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.480 getting the benefit of the doubt. And you know, and 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.560 I always try to be bigger just because someone else 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:42.000 is ignorant, Right, I don't like to respond encine with 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.840 the same ignorance, right right, right, So, but sure I 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.600 want to read Jerry Jones respond to Lebron James. You know, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.440 Lebron James scold of the media Wednesday for failing to 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.400 ask him his feelings about an old reservice. Photo from 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.120 nineteen fifty seven Dallas Cowboys on the Jerry Jones at 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.560 a desegregation protests at North Little Rock High School when 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.560 Jones was a freshman at the school. Jones said he 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.359 was at the protest out of curiosity, rather than arguing 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.480 to keep the school segregated, but James wondered why he 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.119 was not pressed on the topic. Despite james criticism of 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.879 the Cowboys owner, Jones responded by praising the NBA superstar. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.119 First of all, you have to hear me say how 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.440 much I think of Lebron. I don't know if anybody 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.679 did I respect more. I don't know if anybody has 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.280 taken every opportunity he's had and maximized it. Not only 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.760 has he been a great ambassador for sport, he has 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.840 taken sports. He has taken his venues and used those platforms. 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.879 Certainly he has influencing just because of all the above, 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:46.440 his accomplishments, how he's utilized his sport, and how he's 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.320 utilized his platform, how he's done it. He is enhanced basketball. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.679 He's made a lot of people money. I hope I 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.440 have to James as reporters and see that was kind 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.399 of a slick thing he threw in. I made a 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.040 lot of money, But those people have made you even 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.119 more money. For every five or ten million dollars that 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.560 you paid someone, Mr Jones, you turned around and turned 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.640 that into billions of dollars. So don't act like you're 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.719 just giving somebody something, because I'm gonna tell you this 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.200 about football, you are a piece of product. They don't 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.240 mind about moving. You were around, waving, trading, you're cutting, 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.239 you bringing you back sometimes the same thing. Because you 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.280 are looked at like a product. You are like a 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.439 can of Coca cola, can of PEPSI. You have no 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.679 more rights as a human beings. So for him to 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.720 sit up there and say that, it was kind of 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:33.520 like a little back in the thing and if you're 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.359 not going to cut it, Yeah, he was flexing. He 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.760 was flexing a little bit. Um. I think he could 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.440 have gave a more humble response to that. I think 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:47.840 Lebron handled that very very well, very tasteful, very graceful. Um, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.840 but still got his point. You know, he still got 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:54.320 his point across UM. I agree, Bro. All I'm saying 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.000 is listen, Jerry Jones. I mean, we all should be 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.640 allowed the room to grow. We should all be allowed 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.800 the room to make mistakes. You know what I'm saying 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.280 that come back from that um And as James said 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.520 at the beginning, Bro, you know Hay his talk, that's 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.720 a learned behavior, you know what I mean. So we 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.359 get it. If you come from that air listen, I 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:15.360 share a personal experience. You know, the gym. I used 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.040 to go to a powerhouse and chat's work right, Um, 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.760 you know, it's a lot of skin heads and shipped 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.040 up that way. It was a little young white guy 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.520 that has swast because all on his neck, all in 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.159 his arms and ship. So of course I'm kind of 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:30.359 looking at him sideways. Um. At some point he comes 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.960 over to me and he speaks to me. You know, 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.240 he started asking me about working out. So I'm kind 0:19:35.240 --> 0:19:38.160 of like, like, bro, I don't you know. I wasn't 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.919 really comfortable with that. So he peeped that, and he 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.199 goes on to explain his situation. And you know, his 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:47.320 mother and his father was racist. Um, you know, that's 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:49.280 how he was taught, That's how he grew up. He 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.760 grew up in juvenile He had just got out of prison, 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.960 but he ended up marrying a Puerto Rican woman, so 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:59.520 they just quit fucking with him. You know. So him 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.639 getting out into the world away from that bullshit, he 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.159 started seeing that, Wow, all that ship they taught me 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.639 was bullshit. And so he told me, he said, I 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.919 keep this on me to start the conversation because I 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:16.200 know what people are thinking. Just like what you was thinking, right, 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.960 And long story short, he ended up becoming my little partner, 0:20:20.080 --> 0:20:21.720 you know what I'm saying. So when people would see 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.000 us talking, you know, he was super cool and I 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.720 kind of mentored him too. He was super cool. But 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:31.240 you know that's it was learned. But he pivoted, you 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.000 know what I'm saying. He did to work on himself. 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.080 He can learned the bullshit and became a productive citizen. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.720 So I think we all should be allowed that, you 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.560 know what I mean. But yeah, that Jerry Jones with 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.480 that reply, that was some slick ship though, I think 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.280 because he said that because pretty much what he said 0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:50.639 was at the end, and I'm just going by what 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.720 he said again his words, I'm not embellishing or nothing, 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.679 not really real. I read it too. The thing is, 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.560 what he saying is that Lebron has made a lot 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.960 of money. That's pretty much I'm saying, what are you 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.040 talking about this for? You're rich, you don't have to 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.359 worry about this. This is no concern of yours. I've 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:11.240 made a lot of people money too, Yes you have, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.760 but in the process you make your money. Because I 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:17.240 haven't seen Jones gonna come out here to the ghetto 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:19.520 and just go to company and give somebody a million 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.600 dollars and walked down the stair. Here's a million for you, 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.760 here's a million for you. So you haven't given anyone anything. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.119 And I say that respectful. This to be acknowledges, you 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:32.240 gotta be rich for it to come out in social media, 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.880 opposed to people living around it every day. They gotta, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:40.560 they gotta. They got this guy do these skits on YouTube. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:45.199 And he walked up to black people's shade, pass me 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.640 that coat. Boy. Yeah, I know you're talking about. It's 0:21:48.720 --> 0:21:54.399 like they said, Boozy one of his little partners kids due, 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.160 But why promotion like that, why even frank like that? 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:02.960 You feel with with with the way the world is today. 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.280 That's not a joke. It's not a joke. And and 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:13.600 Jerry Jones forty five years ago, I mean, who really care? 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:16.920 The man is oh, the man is rich, the man 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:21.919 is bad. But it's it's it's just crazy how people 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:26.439 point out ship. Yeah. I think, like you said, bro, 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.480 it's the hypocrisy. I think everybody has common sense to 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.000 know that it was so far, it was so long ago, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:35.879 he was young. He probably it's nobody knows unless you 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.800 were there, I know. But what I'm saying, if you labeled, 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:44.000 you labeled. If if somebody seen my penitentiary picture from 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.960 from from thirty years ago, they're gonna say I'm a 0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:51.600 dog exactly exactly when I'm seventy five, they're gonna say 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.840 that he's a thug. Yeah, which is bullshit. You know 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.440 what I'm saying, because we all gotta pass the same. 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:02.560 Like you said earlier, I grow up exactly that. So 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.080 why put me? Why why I still said the same thing? 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:10.080 Why put me in that category? As human nature, people 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:12.920 love to hold people the standards. They can't hold themselves too, 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:15.240 because the thing about it the same person that will 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:17.720 point the finger at you. And you know, I used 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.960 to tell my old lady this, like right with with 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.159 Tiger Woods, when Tiger Woods was holding uh you know, 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.359 that big old thing explaining himself and you know, his 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.760 personal life. I'm like, there's nobody's business with him and 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:31.040 his old lady. And I said, if I had Tiger 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.320 Woods money and resource, you know what I would have 0:23:33.359 --> 0:23:36.560 did out of See, it's different, it's different when you 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:38.520 know what I mean. When the when the rabbit got 0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.680 the gun out, have held a press conference with everybody 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:43.639 they wanted something to say. I would have spread a 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.639 bunch of money around and have somebody looking to everybody's 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:49.840 ship and find the most unflattered thing about them. And 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.520 the first person that raised their hand asked me some 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.040 silly ship out of said okay, ham me his file, 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:58.480 ham me his file, and I would have went in there. Yeah, 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:00.640 oh so you like boys, you know what I'm saying. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:02.560 Oh you got caught with such and such. Yeah it 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.720 was thirty years ago, but it still happened. I bet you. 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.399 Nobody else would ask a question. Nobody would raise the 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.359 hand because they don't know what you know. You know. Yeah, 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.920 that's the thing about it. People have to stop trying 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.479 to hold people to standards. They can't. We are all flawed, 0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.639 all of us fall short, all of us have done 0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.280 unflattering things. Some of us have had to live it 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.199 out in the public. But we're unit, like you know 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.800 what I'm saying. So, but but I'm not absolving him 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:35.200 Jerry Jones from being held accountable equally as we do 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.959 when we make a mistep, and that's all, you know, 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:42.800 and holding someone accountable there's not the act of passing judgment. 0:24:43.080 --> 0:24:45.480 It's something accountable and to be honest with you, him 0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:47.919 being in the position that he's in the moment that 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:50.560 came out. He has the money, he has the resources. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.400 Teacher that had his publicist in this office from the 0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.399 NBC News here today, I'm going to press this stuff. Hey, 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.159 I was a little kid, not just happening to be 0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:00.479 at the schools. Don't know what's going on, but this 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.840 is what I have done and racism. He could have 0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.560 used that really as a moment to show that, you 0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.080 know what, I'm not that same person anymore because I've 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:14.840 known people, um that were initially racist because that's the 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.399 that's how they were raised, that's the community they come from. 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:20.200 I have a good friend, me and him have been 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:22.359 friends for maybe thirty years from now. His name is 0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:26.000 Kevin O'Connor. He's a truck driver. Now he actually owned 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:29.400 several trucks in the Philadelphia area. Has his own business right. 0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:32.399 But when I first met Kevin, Kevin was a straight 0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.280 up red neck. He was from Bold to Colorado. He 0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.160 hadn't it was only one black person on this high 0:25:38.160 --> 0:25:41.679 school football team. You know. We were teammates and we 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.359 wound up becoming good friends through all of the term oil. 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.840 We initially went through because he was a big swell 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:50.520 white boy. I was a big swoller young black dude. 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.240 I didn't like him. He didn't like me. Luckily, we 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.840 never handed out because Kevin was one of them tough 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.119 white boys. You know you're from the Midwest court. We 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.200 got some white boys back there the fight showay, you 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.720 know what I mean that that was like they scared 0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:04.800 of him. They would let you know what's on their 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:09.399 mind and they would go right. So we wound up. 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.400 He came one day and gave me a soda. That 0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.359 was his little gesture. He was at the practice and 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.000 he came and gave me. It wasn't so it was 0:26:16.040 --> 0:26:17.600 a can of gatorade. That's when they had him in 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:21.520 a camp. Good looking out. We were roommates. We wound 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.200 up becoming cool and for that two years that we 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.600 were together, became the best of friends. He eventually went 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.040 on the San Jose State playing football. Actually dated a 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.480 few black girls during his time out there, but that 0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:39.000 was because he was finally around black people to actually 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.840 get the no black people and that wasn't what he's 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.399 heard his whole life because he had to raise his 0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.359 father and I'm gonna go even deeper. His mom wound 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:49.639 up coming out because we had a rough out of here. Man. 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.200 You know, we were starving students. You know, his mom 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:56.160 wounded up moving to California because she had divorced his father. Now, 0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.879 who I heard was a racist man. But when I 0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.840 tell you that mom was the sweetest lady in the world, 0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.719 actually wound up taking me in that year too. So 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.919 I went from eating top ramen every night to have 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.119 and she was taking care of me. She made him 0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.600 a plate, I got one me and her, Miss Marlene 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.359 O'Connell shot off to her. She lives in Utah right now. 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:19.120 So you have people who grow and learned. This mom 0:27:19.160 --> 0:27:22.840 obviously was never racist because she treated me like her own. 0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.120 She still have talked to me sometimes if I cursed online. Now, 0:27:26.200 --> 0:27:29.359 norm you know I raised you better than that. She's 0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.760 a great person. So you do have people. Everything is 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:37.199 just not You have to look at people's situations sometimes 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:40.360 in their origins, because, to be honest with you, where 0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:43.680 I come from in the Midwest, Cleveland. Cleveland was very segregated. 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.960 Even when they implemented the segregation, it was the white 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:49.720 guys stay on their part of town. The brothers was 0:27:49.760 --> 0:27:52.200 on the east side and the Puerto Rigans was kind 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.440 of up north, but they kind of integrated with us, 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.520 you know something, We kind of kicking with each other, 0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:58.600 you know what I mean. You had brothers going over 0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:00.760 to the hall at the Puerto Rican girls. You know, 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.560 you had the Puerto Rican guys come in holiday the sisters, right, 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.439 so we all deal with this ship up. Yeah, because 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.920 I swear to God to you, my story is a 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:15.840 little different because what made me really change and see 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.639 that it is some good white people out there. It 0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:26.760 was two police officers happened to be married, uh grad 0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:31.439 Cadien and his wife Donna. And when they took me 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.439 to Australia, it was a whole different word from me 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:40.000 because this lady treated me like a son, you know 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.720 what I'm saying, And their son was there and I 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.080 felt like part of their family. This actually treated me 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:51.160 and it was so fucking weird to me because why 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.000 is this white lady acting like that? Why is Gregg 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.880 so open? Man? I swear to God, I had to 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:02.400 take my shot, my incident eye, and Greg was so 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.960 curious about Wow, like you really do this? Can I 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.520 can I give you a shot? I just want to 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.360 know how to do it. Yeah, you can get a 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.640 shot to me. So he ministered my shot and it 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.320 was like he was cheariotted and I'm like, man, I 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:23.280 felt something right then and there. It's like these white 0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:27.680 people really felt. These two people, this family really feel 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:33.560 like they I'm in their heart, like I'm good. So 0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.040 I started calling myself the Uh, what's the what's the 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:43.120 movie with the black dude football player? Blindside? No? Did 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:51.360 uh Michael the or story Michael like that? So I 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:55.040 got to call it myself Michael because that's how they 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:59.280 treated me. So, you know, for anybody to sit and 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.920 sitting there say all white people are bad, that's bullshit. No, 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.960 that's bullshit. They talked me totally different, and I've never 0:30:07.000 --> 0:30:13.200 experienced that with a white family that were police officers. 0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.600 That that was totally different from me. Yeah, background the 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.440 whole now show all I made bad, brother, all of 0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:24.120 the I can't remember. I can remember coming up, you know, 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.240 I mean me in Kansas City, Missouri, like still said 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.800 in the Midwest, Like it wasn't a mountain pot like 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.440 how l A is. You know, it was mainly white 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:35.600 and black and you had a few Mexicans. Uh you know, 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.240 kind of often to cut on the West Side. But 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.400 for the most part, I grew up in the hood. 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.680 You know, I wasn't exposed to any other cultures until 0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.680 like still said, when they started that they started the 0:30:46.720 --> 0:30:50.440 Magnet program, uh in like the late eighties in Kents City. 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.760 So I got I got bussed to kind of a 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:57.000 mixed school, still predominantly black, but um, it was still 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.200 you know, the first time I've been around white people, 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.720 you know what I mean. Um, And you know, in 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:04.600 my household, bro, I didn't really you know, I'll be 0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.480 honest with you. My mother didn't talk much about race 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:10.600 growing up. Like what I learned about race relations and 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:15.040 white people and other cultures were as just through life experience, 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:16.840 you know, when I got out into the world. You 0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:18.680 know what I'm saying, Like my I didn't grow up 0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:20.640 in the household where my mother was the white man, 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.000 the white man, the devil. I never had those conversations. 0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.240 So what I learned is what people showed me. And 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.440 you know, and what I what I did, what the 0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:33.120 world has shown me is listen, man, everybody messed up. 0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.600 It's it's good people and bad people in every culture. 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.240 To be very honest with you. I ran I run 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.920 across you know, some of my own kind, and I 0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.440 don't want to deal with I run across white people 0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.120 that are assholes, you know what I mean. And to 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.720 to to James's point, I ran across like even with police, 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:52.920 I ran across some cool white cops you know that 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.480 actually gave me a pass when they had you know 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.240 what I mean. So, um, you know, people of people. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.160 But you know, as it like going into what you're saying. 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:06.280 Still with the desegregation, I think the Magnet program, at 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.840 least in Kansas City was kind of the start of 0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.920 trying to, I guess, create this melting pot, you know 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:13.960 what I'm saying, because before that it was just you 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.040 went to your neighborhood school, you know, whatever school is 0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.720 in you know. So but but again you understand the 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:22.960 infrastructure of schools. You know, the education is different in 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.360 the lower income UH areas, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.280 because that's where the tax dollars, you know what I'm saying, 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.240 the tax dollars they get allocated more to the suburbs 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:35.520 and where the money is. Um. So yeah, and I think, 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:39.240 um a lot of people were raising hill about that 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.400 very issue right there about you know, tax dollars being 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:48.400 allocated to them more influential areas. So it's just one 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.640 of those things too that the more I learned about 0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:55.080 politics too, the reason why they get their text to 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.560 the higher rate they actually pay the taxes in their 0:32:57.560 --> 0:33:01.320 community to make those schools better, and things of that nature. 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:05.920 And um, one of the things I remember is this, 0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:10.000 I was highly educated. You gotta remember, I've been around 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.520 nothing but black people my whole life, right, me too, 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:16.760 So when I, you know, went to Charles or elementary, 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.360 he got plushed there right across streets in the school 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.760 to regularly across that there was a white supremacist building. 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.440 I never will forget it. It had the flags on it. 0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:26.640 And I was too young to really process what was 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:30.040 going on. Right, But I had a couple of white boys, 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.560 and they were the typical, like white stoner type of kids, right. 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.000 They had never run around black been around black people either. 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.760 One of these kids says something. We were out in 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.320 the thing playing kickball, and this white guy said, man, 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.280 I want you to come stand in my front yard 0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:46.360 and hold his light. And he was laughing him and 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.800 his other white dude not even know what that was. Man, 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:50.800 I don't know what they were talking about, you know 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.560 what I mean. You know, they used to have these 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:55.600 little things like and some of the people know how 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.120 I had these little things like life. They were like 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.320 a little like gnomes or el but they were painted 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:03.520 with black faces on them to hold these lights, right, 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:06.880 to hold these lights. And I guess that's where the 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:12.520 term I guess that's what the term sports or whatever. 0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:14.520 They had these little things. So when he said that, 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:17.520 my friend Bam told me, I think that's what dude 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.680 calls you when he's playing kickball. You know, when way 0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.319 back home, we passed these houses and stuff, right, and 0:34:22.360 --> 0:34:24.880 they're nicer homes than weird customed to scene. You know, 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:26.759 we lived in the city. So I'm looking at all 0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.719 these nice houses with the freshly manicure lawns, man, and 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.200 just they look nicest, Like, man, I wouldn't live on 0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.000 that side of time when I get grown. You know, 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.880 you come from prity and you've never been exposed. And 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.480 he wanted and I go back and see those houses now, 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.319 and I don't like, Man, they're regular piece of ship. 0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:43.719 I was, you know what I mean, my house ship, 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.280 this ship. But when literally you don't see no difference. 0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:51.080 You're coming back to your home, which is a little 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.879 less opulent, you know, let's say the least. You come 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.279 back to your house or whatever like that, and you're like, man, 0:34:56.560 --> 0:34:58.879 they're really living up over there. But I saw that right. 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.000 My friend Bam told me what it was that he 0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:04.120 was referring to me as, and I went out there. Man. 0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:05.560 The next day, that dud didn't know what the hell 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.480 I was talking about, said, Man, what did you call me? Yes, 0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:09.600 they said, Bro, I didn't call you enough. And I said, 0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:11.160 you said, I need to be in your front yard 0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.319 holding the light. I saw that looking thing you're saying, 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:17.440 that's being I just bombed on being thinking. Me and 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:20.480 that dude, Danny wound up being friends after that. Broy 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.880 and I never will forget the reaction when he brought 0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.920 me to his house. My mom was scared of that 0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.719 because she was She was saying, yeah, do you want 0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:30.560 to stay to night over my house? Bro? You want 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:32.440 to stay to night of my house? Is cool? This 0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:36.040 mom was cool with it, sisters was cool, and everybody 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.719 was cool. But the dad was kind of really indifferent. 0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:40.279 He didn't really agree with me. When we come to 0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.040 the table, he just said why don't you want your 0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.279 friend go to your room and need I guess that 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:46.640 means he didn't want to be at that table for 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.759 whatever reason. But I had a good time over his 0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:52.520 house that weekend, and I learned a lot. Man. I 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.600 learned that they weren't really rich, bro, They wouldn't. They 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:57.600 were living the same way we were living, but they 0:35:57.600 --> 0:36:01.160 were white. And that's really kind like struck in my head. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.840 I said, this dude is kind of going through the 0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.040 same thing I'll go through. Because his mama sent this 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.360 to the store and he was trying to hide the 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:10.760 fact that he had some food stamps. We have food 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:13.040 stamps back, that he had some cash and food stamps. 0:36:13.040 --> 0:36:14.840 He was trying to hide them. Look, you know he 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:16.759 used to hide the food stamps back that you never 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.479 wanted to see nobody. You're never gonna let nobody see 0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:22.080 you when it's cool with food stamps. Everybody was doing 0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.560 with Everybody always bag when they got somebody with them, 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:30.040 even though their mama's was used them to right. He 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.640 was kind of embarrassed, man, But I realized, I said, man, 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:34.560 this dude is going through the same ship as me. 0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.000 Uh huh, Ain't that Ain't that funny how that works, though. 0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.880 I mean, just kind of to your point about the 0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:43.239 food stamps, because when you get grown, you're looking for 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.839 who's selling food stamps exactly because I'm not gonna lie, 0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.240 you know, hopefully you know it's past the ten year period. 0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:51.880 But I haven't been known to, you know, give somebody 0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:53.359 a couple of dollars to help him out what they 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.360 rent or whatever like that, and take their card and 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:58.200 go do my thing. What do you know? Funny how 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.960 that works. But it's all based on property, man, And 0:37:03.239 --> 0:37:07.799 I'm not really at liberty. I'm not qualified to say 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:11.480 if segregation desegregation work, that didn't work. I just know 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:15.160 for me personally, it was my life experiences that made 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.960 me start processing my surrounding is different and realizing that 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.800 every white person is not necessarily evil. Every white person 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.839 named racist, And I think what it's all about, man, 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:30.640 It's all about educating yourselves, right, because you hear certain 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.719 stereotypes about people, and I implored I encourage anybody out 0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.520 there that got thoughts and they hear about different people, 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.520 go study them. They got a little something in every 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:42.640 city in America. They got a little Italy, they got 0:37:42.640 --> 0:37:45.160 a little China, in every city in this country, Dude, 0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.279 they got a part of town where people stay. Go 0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.399 try to figure them out and go see what their 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:52.840 lifestyle is. And they're probably going through the same stuff 0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:57.719 you're going through, if not worse. Sometimes, don't you think 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:01.280 in the white household, they and the same thing. We're saying, 0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:07.319 All black saint evil. All blacks ain't bad everybody all 0:38:07.320 --> 0:38:10.920 the way around the board. But you know, it's conversations 0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.840 like this that brings it out. And you know, I 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.400 can honestly say, I don't think people will relate to 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.640 what we're talking about. Only our people. They you would 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.560 think the opposite decided to be like, what the funk 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:29.120 are they talking about? You know what I'm saying. They 0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:33.480 It's crazy how I think about it, because I really 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.040 didn't have to deal with white people when I was 0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:39.280 growing up, you know what I'm saying. I knew my place, 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.480 and just when roots came out, we beat up all 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.200 the white kids in school, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:49.960 And that's where I started seeing, oh they do black 0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:53.920 people like that for real? And we went to school angry, 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:58.080 you know what I'm saying. So it's it's how you 0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:02.360 brought up man and and how you though your process 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:05.600 was back then, because I didn't. I didn't really trip 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.920 off this ship back then. Like in Compton, motherfucker's was 0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:15.399 getting bussed too, Dominus and and uh continuing ship like that. 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:18.680 We wouldn't getting some to a white neighborhood to go 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:21.960 to school, you know what I'm saying. And you know me, 0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.640 I didn't go to school anyway. I had to hang 0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.120 out in the hood kicking, so nobody would to come through. 0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:32.120 But you know the crazy thing is, I can't even 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.400 again coming from Kansas City, where I mean, it's very 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.799 you know what I mean, It's that Bible belt. It's 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:40.080 them old you know they say they when you hear 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:44.080 a motherfucker from Kansas City, say Missouri, Kansas City, Missouri, 0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.839 and they say niggra. You know you're dealing with them 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.040 kind of white folks. You know. I've heard the whole 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:53.440 nigger thing how as well. Yeah, so so honestly, I 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.240 can't even remember the first time that I was called, 0:39:56.640 --> 0:39:58.960 you know, the N word from a white person. I 0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.960 want to say I was in the dope, um. I 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.319 want to say I was in Joquelin, Missouri, doing an 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.280 in store. I think I was a rapper. I believe 0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:09.520 that was the first time and uh, my partner Jade up, 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:13.360 he smashed you like he smashed right, do had it coming? 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.359 But to speak to your point of what you were 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:20.200 saying with desegregation, I think that I think that, like 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.400 if you look at Tulsa, Oklahoma, I think there was 0:40:22.440 --> 0:40:26.120 a benefit to us having our own community. I think 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.400 there was an economic empowerment there, you know, because the 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.000 dollar could stay in the community longer, you know what 0:40:32.040 --> 0:40:34.360 I mean. Um So, I think there was a level 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:36.960 of empowerment there. But again, when you start talking about 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.480 the systematic, the systems in place where we couldn't really 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.000 thrive because you gotta think we couldn't share in home 0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:46.359 ownership because of red lining, you know what I'm saying. So, 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.600 um so, what happens is, you know, now us moving 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:52.800 Like if you think about it, you know, white people 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.640 usually move to where the jobs are. Black people want 0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:57.640 to move to where white people are, you know what 0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.760 I mean. So there was this thing I think coming 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:04.520 out the red lining to where you know, blacks wanted 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.720 to sharing home ownership and moved to the suburbs. And 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.000 now that's I think where you kind of breeded the 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.040 the boogie middle class black person, you know what I'm saying, 0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:16.640 because like I said, they wanted to you know, it 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.719 was and it was all you know, in the name 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:23.440 of home ownership. So I think once we took the dollar, 0:41:23.800 --> 0:41:26.720 the black dollar out of the community where it didn't 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.920 cycle through the community enough times to where like how 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.520 you had to Tulsa or how Jewish people do. You know, 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:34.680 that's the thing about Jewish people, that's what they do do. 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.759 They spend money within their culture and you know, it 0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.360 keeps their their economic um nucleus thriving, you know what 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:45.080 I mean. So I think that that's that's probably the 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:48.560 tid of that, you know what I'm saying. But at 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.279 the same time, you know, fast forward as we talk 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:55.239 about gentrification, like even myself, you know, our own you 0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:59.919 know um team properties. And I think even with the gentrification, 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:04.000 I think it's good. It's good when the community can 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.879 share in that, you know what I'm saying. I think 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.360 it works. It works against when when the community is 0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:14.040 you know, when they're squeezed out because the property packs 0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.840 go up so much that they can't afford you know 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:19.000 what I mean, they can't afford to keep their property, 0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:23.320 and then there there's infrastructure that's built around the community 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.040 that they can't even afford to patronize. You know what 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.400 I'm saying, the whole foods and ship like that. I 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.440 think that's where it becomes a problem. You know, I believe, 0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:36.080 I believe in desegregation is kind of you know, hand, 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.640 it kind of works hand in hand. You know, you're saying. 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.000 That comes to a point that was going to bring up. 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:45.000 If you go to the Nikison Guards right now, I 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.080 forget with three deals, James. But if you go down 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.719 one of the black streets backstreets over there, they are 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:57.719 building very nice um kindominiums back there, Yeah they are. 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:00.799 And these things have been empty for wild now you 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.360 can tell they're just kind of building back this way, 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:05.799 and they're going door to door asking people if they 0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.040 want to sell their homes. Some of these homes have 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.680 been in people's families for generations since the fifties and sixties. 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.040 So you've got people thinking, you know what, I can 0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.719 see grandma's house for half a million dollars and moved 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.759 to Atlanta or whatever happening. So you're getting a lot 0:43:18.760 --> 0:43:21.880 of that happening, right and they're even talking about tearing 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:25.640 the Nickoson's down eventure. If you notice, the nflis in 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:30.040 Englewood right now, and that part of what is very 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.239 central to Los Angeles because you can go and you 0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:36.160 can go down Imperial and hit the L. A. James 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:38.160 and be from where I'm at now I live in 0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.600 the suburb. It's not Living County, right, so you can 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:44.160 really take that street down all the way through there 0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:49.200 and beat downtown quick like fast. They built the hill. 0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.880 You gotta go up the hill. Now. Back in the 0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:56.160 day's Imperial with straight flat straight through. But what happened was, 0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.319 you know, white people can go couldn't go up through 0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.360 the period and and be stopped at the light. It 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:06.200 was just go through the end up. Now you can 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.560 go over the bridge and you just go over that ship. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:10.759 You see what I'm saying that then when you come 0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.839 down you're right there. But in that part that just 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:17.640 that section there, you couldn't you couldn't stop at the 0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:21.959 red light. I don't know her and everything else, Yeah, 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:25.799 snatching your person at you at the car. So now 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.120 that they got the Inglewood is fixed up, they're coming 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:34.240 all the way back towards that part of L. A. 0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.640 Straight up I'm gonna tell you what, James, not to 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:39.279 cut you off, but this is important. IM gonna let 0:44:39.280 --> 0:44:41.399 you get back and land on what you go right. 0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:49.560 They are. It's almost like the community has been trashed 0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:52.440 on purpose for several years just to get the value down. 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:55.440 Now they're moving everybody off the palm there and I 0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:59.560 guarantee you in the next ten years twenty years, that 0:44:59.719 --> 0:45:01.640 area of what is going to be one of the 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:06.640 premier areas of l A as far as prod always 0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.799 want to get that off. Transformation as a motherfucker. Just 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:13.840 like in Compton. They rebuilding Incompton, but they're changing their 0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:19.800 names in Compton, Dominga's Hills ship like that. So from 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:23.319 from having the stadium, they're coming all the way from 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:28.759 Inglewood all the way back towards Watch. So they want 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:32.880 people to move out of there because see the white people, 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:36.719 it was good for them when they was living there 0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:40.280 at that time. Now they moved out and they moving 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:44.600 whereas earthquakes and all the other ship are it's so 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.239 many miles away from their jobs. They loved that part 0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:51.319 of the town, so they rebuilding that town. They the 0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:56.440 train stations are totally different now, so they rebuilding and 0:45:56.480 --> 0:46:00.839 they're moving out, moving people out, and this is where 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:08.200 everybody coming Victorville, Plump Deal Bardstow. Yeah. Yeah, we've been 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.560 put back this way. All l A is gonna be 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:16.319 for that. They downtown l A trying to clean it up, 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.960 because they have cleaned it up a crap. It's gonna 0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.520 take him a minute because it is what it is. 0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.719 But especially scared Row, I don't know if they ever 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:29.279 be able to fix that. But you know the thing 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.360 about it is, I travel a lot, Bro, and what 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.279 I can say, Bro, Listen, it's in every city, Bro, 0:46:34.840 --> 0:46:39.239 And in New Orleans, same thing, Kansas City, Miami, all 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:42.080 these these these places that we knew to be the hood, 0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.960 you know what I mean. Like it's places in Kansas City, Bro, 0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.120 where I know for a fact in the nineties it 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.480 was trapped, you know what I mean, Like you know 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:51.439 we had spots over there, you know what I mean? 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.000 Like you you you know, even in my hood, the 0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.399 hood that I'm from. Now I go back, I see 0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.440 white people walking their dogs, you know, I see you 0:46:59.480 --> 0:47:03.480 know different. I mean, it's almost like a whole new city. Um. 0:47:03.760 --> 0:47:07.359 Like it's a it's a it's a great thing. Like 0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.600 I said, it's a great thing if the existing community 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.440 can hold onto their properties, if they can, if they 0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:16.480 understand the bigger picture, right, Because I'm an investor, right, 0:47:16.520 --> 0:47:18.840 so I see a bunch of investors in the in 0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:22.040 the inner city, right. I started buying properties in the 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:25.160 hood in the nineties. You know that I still have, right. 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.879 So it wasn't hardly no white investors for real, for real, 0:47:28.960 --> 0:47:31.399 you know. But now you you see all these white 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:34.440 boys working on their houses. And I tell the residents 0:47:34.480 --> 0:47:36.880 there have been there that own their ship, you know, 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:38.440 Like I still got a lot of family there. And 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:40.920 this is in every city. I say, man, hang on 0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.600 to your ship, Hang onto your ship, because the comps 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.000 are gonna the value is gonna skyrocket, you know what 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.480 I mean. Like, this is your investment right here. You've 0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:52.040 been here, you know, thirty years. Hell, you might as 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:54.680 well state, you know, twenty years. Whatever it is, because 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.120 them building up that infrastructure around you. That's a good thing. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.480 So if the property taxes, they're gonna shoot up. But 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:04.279 the property taxes is what's gonna keep that, you know, 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.520 the neighborhood together, it's gonna make it better, you know 0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.279 what I mean. So the schools all of that. So 0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:12.960 you know, I anybody listening. Man, if your people or 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.600 even yourself, if you're in the hood and they're building 0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:17.440 it up and you keep getting them letters of them 0:48:17.480 --> 0:48:19.719 trying to give you pennies for your house, man, keep it. 0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:23.040 You know you've got something that's on. You've got something. 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:28.640 People are targeting court. Those opportunities to them are so 0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:31.040 lucrative that they feel like they gonna miss out something. 0:48:31.080 --> 0:48:33.080 You know, man came by and said, you know, let 0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:35.400 we're talking about the Midwestern man came by and said, 0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:38.360 he's gonna give me seventy thousand for the house. And 0:48:38.400 --> 0:48:41.000 they're taking that money and they they leaving. Right, I'm 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:43.239 gonna tell you what happened to Cleveland. You even have 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:47.920 instances of people stealing houses through nefarious means. Right, let 0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:51.400 me tell you what happened. So when my mom and 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:56.360 my stepdad got the forest, right, he moved down to 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.279 Florida and my mom moved to the hill. She moved 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:01.480 to Bedford. You know, she started doing better for herself 0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.200 and she moved. First thing we do when we get 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:04.759 some money, we want to move to the hills, to 0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:07.279 Knights or whatever. Right, So she moved to bed room. 0:49:07.760 --> 0:49:10.000 So she was renting the house out that we grew 0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:13.320 up into. My um. One of my uncles, he Evans, 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:15.080 she got married and when it bought his own house. 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.680 So she added a sexon nate for a minute. But 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.160 the people that toward the house up so bad. She 0:49:20.320 --> 0:49:23.200 was just really even though sex and Nate would always 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.640 come back in and just fix everything. You know, this 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:27.520 is the home she raised her kids in, so she 0:49:27.680 --> 0:49:30.359 was just really just kind of flustered. They don't put 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.680 holes in the walls, you know, some of like all 0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:36.000 sex nates going about it. But sex made people man 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.359 for some reason. Man, if they don't own it, they 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.840 would go tear your ship up, dude. I'm talking about 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:43.760 to the point to where the people that even stole 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:46.839 the copper pipes. You know what the Midwest, we got 0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.040 the cop plights that they and they just they stole 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.000 the copper pipes. They was moving out, they stole the 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:55.520 copper pipes. So my mom pretty much we owned the 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:59.080 house out right. I think they'd only paid for the house. 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:02.440 But the work that my stepfather had did through the 0:50:02.520 --> 0:50:05.120 years on that home, it wound up becoming one of 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:07.640 the premier homes in the neighborhood kind of because he 0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.000 you know, all that was in the Midwest. We had 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:13.480 to close then front porchs. Man, we had the the 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.640 you know, we had to close in front ports to 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:24.080 the back porchs with the screens and stuff. You know 0:50:24.080 --> 0:50:27.040 how it was in the Midwest where you say you 0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:31.920 don't want the skills to come in and stuff, bro everything. 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:36.240 So man, when I tell you, man that, I asked 0:50:36.239 --> 0:50:38.080 my mom when they just happened to be talking to it, 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:40.840 like Mom, what's up with the house? Because I was 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:43.920 thinking me because I took my what was really at 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:47.560 me start the conversation. I called myself taking my kids 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.120 back to the hood, like yeah, I'm gonna show y'all 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.920 where I grew up at y'all. Motherfucker spoil. We go 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.839 over there, and I'm like, damn, first, I don't even 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:58.719 recognize that every street because we've always had very big 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.239 houses over there. Like if it wasn't the five or 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:03.400 six bedroom house, it was a dude plex. You know, 0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.759 the side house to sit side by side, get the 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:08.800 side by side, you had the side by side of 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:10.800 the top on top to where you had one level 0:51:10.840 --> 0:51:13.040 down here to where people lived. Then you have some 0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:15.879 stairs and people would go upstairs and live right. So 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.840 they took Cleveland Clinic and went to buying all that 0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.680 property around there and doctors moving there. So I'm looking 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:27.160 at my old house. I'm like, damn, this motherfucker is nice, 0:51:27.640 --> 0:51:29.799 you feel. I mean the back area that had all 0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:33.000 the bottles and bushes growing because between us in the 0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:35.160 next street, in the backyard, you would be able to 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:38.359 see over my back fence. It was like an empty lot. 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:41.040 It's a bunch of empty lots, right, And the grass 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:43.400 that grew so high. They never did that. Man, They've 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.200 made that like a dog walking park now and everything. 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.120 And so I got asked my mom, like, Mom, what's happening. 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:50.839 You didn't tell me you fix that. She said, Honey, 0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.960 you haven't owned that house in ten years. You know 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:57.520 what happened? Bro? They sent my mom a tax bill 0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:02.920 for five hundred dollars. For five hundred dollars, Bro, they 0:52:02.960 --> 0:52:06.320 had they guess they didn't have Pops forward in the 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:09.960 address or whatever. Hers, But it wound up being a thing. 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:12.319 He wounded up pretty. Cleveland Clinic wound up taking that 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:15.959 house from my mom. I wound up building a six 0:52:16.040 --> 0:52:19.000 hundred thousand dollar house, and you know, and where we 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.359 live out in California, that's a drop in the bucket now, 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.000 especially in on the cities. You know, you gotta move 0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:27.560 way out to get something decent for six hundred thousand 0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:31.720 right over there, you know, Kansas City, Cleveland, six hundred 0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:35.600 thousand dollar houses, the epitome of excellence. You feel what 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.200 I mean? You got a lake with fish in it 0:52:38.239 --> 0:52:42.160 all kind of ship, So I see it. How did 0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:44.799 that happen? And so I started doing research because I said, 0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:47.080 this just can't be right. Come to find out, man, 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:51.600 one of the first black theater owners in America on 0:52:51.800 --> 0:52:54.000 the theater called it's Crumpy Dump, which is on A 0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.959 hundred and five, which is a big area in which 0:52:57.000 --> 0:53:00.800 the Cleveland Clinic occupies now, right, So I guess it 0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.800 started back in the eighties their takeover. They wanted to 0:53:03.800 --> 0:53:08.080 own everything that was around there. They messed around and 0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:10.440 trumped up some charges on this cat that owned the 0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.759 Scrumpy Dump. And the Scrumpy Dump was very important if 0:53:13.760 --> 0:53:15.880 you google, is right. I employed everybody else to go 0:53:15.920 --> 0:53:18.160 out there and google the Scrumpy Dump. That was the 0:53:18.239 --> 0:53:21.200 name of the place. Right. There were one dollar movies 0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:23.080 and you can go for two for one on the Saturday, 0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.080 so her mom would take me there and my brothers 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.920 because it was a cheap form of entertainment. But all 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:32.600 they showed was black exploitation movies. It was once X 0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:34.960 rated adult theater that he had converted over into a 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.480 regular movie theater. So when they had the premiere, do 0:53:38.560 --> 0:53:41.080 you remember, we wanted a period to where the black 0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:44.279 Hollywood was cracking. You know, they had super Fly, they 0:53:44.280 --> 0:53:48.160 had all these black exploitation movies, right, So that was 0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:51.600 one of the like premiere stops when they had it 0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:54.080 to where that was a big deal around O'Neil and 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.040 then came up here and walked the red carpet, right. 0:53:57.080 --> 0:53:59.720 They wound up trumping some charges up on his brother 0:54:00.000 --> 0:54:02.800 and he wounded up going to jail for two months. 0:54:03.160 --> 0:54:05.439 It was just enough time for them to dig enough 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:08.120 stuff to say, well he owed these taxes. They really 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.920 had to dig and do some forensics, right, and they 0:54:10.960 --> 0:54:13.200 wound up taking that movie theater from It was a 0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.200 landmark that that's the type of place that should still 0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.000 be there, that should have got re gentrified. It was 0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:21.560 right next to Woolworth. It was in the prime location 0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:25.600 that part of Cleveland now it's almost unaffordable. All the 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:27.920 people that lived there before, I can't afford to live 0:54:27.920 --> 0:54:29.640 there anymore. And I'm gonna tell you the one guy 0:54:29.640 --> 0:54:33.239 that came up, one of my best friends. His grandfather 0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:35.480 lived at the end of the street. And it was 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:37.919 so funny when I went. The last time I was there, 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.880 you still had that little three bedroom house for the 0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:42.960 midst of all these five and six and eight bed 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:47.840 room houses. Right because he refused to sell. He report 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:49.879 his bisil a couple of dudes. If you come around, 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:53.120 He asked me about my ship again. Yeah, you give 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.400 me the money I want for He told them he 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:58.319 wanted four hundred thousand hours for that house. They kept 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:00.680 trying to give him the forties. Well you missed. You 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.480 only paid ten thousand four back in nineteen sixty. You come, 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:06.279 he said, no, not no more. Y'all, don't do throw 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:08.000 this ship around me. I can stay right well out, 0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:10.399 he said, it's a matter of fact, much I might 0:55:10.480 --> 0:55:12.080 just give me some money out of my house and 0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:14.040 build me one of these scar faces. That's what he 0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:18.600 called me, the scar face. So the cops can't support that. 0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:20.640 The cops are there, you know what I mean. So 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:22.840 it don't matter what he paid for the cops of 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.200 the cops. So he held his ground right, and they 0:55:26.239 --> 0:55:28.479 wound up getting him. And so he had a plan. 0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:31.560 He wound up he wanted to go back to Mississippi anyway, 0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:35.160 because everybody in Ohio was reasoning from Mississippi Florida. Dog, 0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:38.400 I don't know what it is, right. So he wound 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:41.120 up selling this house man and getting his money and 0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:43.080 getting on him. Right. But I look at that what 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.799 they're doing just the same thing in Detroit right now. 0:55:45.840 --> 0:55:48.600 They were doing so much killing them Detroit at one time, bro, 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.879 because you know, Cleveland Detroit kind of sister cities. It's 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:55.680 so close, because we should drifted to go by closed 0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:57.759 because Detroit seemed like they always got stuff that we 0:55:57.800 --> 0:55:59.800 didn't get. So we had a little bit of money, 0:56:00.200 --> 0:56:02.560 we will take that couple hour with driving Detroit or 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.719 either go to Flint right, go buy clothes. But they 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:09.120 got the same thing in Detroit, I believe in right 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:11.719 now in Detroit, Michigan, certain parts like an eight mile 0:56:11.800 --> 0:56:14.759 and all that you can go by eight very Remmberry 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:19.920 Miles James three or four thousand dollars, damn. But you 0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:22.480 know what, you know what I think that should happen. Bro. 0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.960 And this may sound fucked up, but I don't mean 0:56:25.000 --> 0:56:29.480 it with the with the racist connotation. Um, but I 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:32.200 think that people in the hood, like the gentleman that 0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:35.200 you just talked about back home, I think if if 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:38.640 they are gonna sell, sell to a black investor, or 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:40.880 sell to a black family. You know what I'm saying. 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:44.360 I think that that that that should be the course 0:56:44.400 --> 0:56:48.120 of action because again that you know that that that's 0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.920 what keeps us in power, you know what I mean, economically, 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:54.000 you know what I'm saying, because sell it to another investor, 0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:56.480 because again there are black investors that are doing the 0:56:56.520 --> 0:56:58.719 same thing that the white investors doing. They're coming in 0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.360 you know. You know, I'm an investor. So yeah, if 0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:03.520 I could get some ship cheap before a good price, 0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:05.399 I'm gonna get it too. But you know, if you're 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:08.120 gonna do that, dump it to somebody, you know, dump 0:57:08.160 --> 0:57:10.520 it to a black person. I would have loved to 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:13.040 have that opportunity to get the house that I was 0:57:13.160 --> 0:57:16.920 raised in to actually do what they with the Cleveland 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:21.000 Clinic wound up feloniously doing. Yeah, I would have loved 0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.240 for me to have that opportunity to buy that home 0:57:24.240 --> 0:57:26.560 as a future investor for my children. Because I'm gonna 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:29.280 tell you one of the best things I did maybe 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:33.080 six years ago is I bought a little piece of 0:57:33.200 --> 0:57:37.880 land and ravanelile that's about an acre, like a little 0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.240 bit of under an acre, right, and it is just 0:57:40.280 --> 0:57:42.480 sitting there. May making me no money, but you know what, 0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.760 I'm starting to see my cousin, one of my cousins, 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:47.560 they just came and brought his land from him. Well, 0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:50.280 actually he's on the land lease with him. Yeah, the 0:57:51.760 --> 0:57:53.920 Dollar Generals that they had back in the Midwest, right, 0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.000 they're only a hundred year land lease with him to 0:57:57.040 --> 0:57:59.880 where they're paying him I think forty five hundred a month. 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.200 That goes up every five years by two and a 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:05.000 half a cent or something like that. And I would say, 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:07.360 if you do have land back there doing land leash, 0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:10.360 don't never sell your land, all right, because the thing 0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:14.000 about it, let's say that Dollar General gonna make it 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:17.000 in the area and they decided up and move fifteen 0:58:17.080 --> 0:58:19.640 years from now. Now he got a building and his 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:22.080 land as he is, that he could rent out or 0:58:22.160 --> 0:58:24.080 do anything or open up his own business if he 0:58:24.160 --> 0:58:27.480 wanted to. But I'm really right now. I'm on a 0:58:27.640 --> 0:58:30.000 tick right now. You know, just think about all this 0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:33.520 stuff that we're really I want to get together with 0:58:33.600 --> 0:58:36.640 a group of like minded brothers and the next year 0:58:36.800 --> 0:58:40.720 and go to to the Detroit, Michigan's, the Cleveland, Ohios 0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.320 and just start going to go buy six seven house 0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:46.760 at a time. They're that cheap, Yeah, for sure, especially 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:49.600 in in in uh in Detroit, I mean all the 0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:53.000 Midwestern cities that you started an investment group. Yeah, I 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:55.280 want to start an investment group and tell people, Look, 0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:57.880 it's not gonna take much, bro, I'm talking about us 0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:01.840 coming in in some cases the piece broke. You know, 0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.720 you don't have to start off big man. Listen. That's 0:59:04.720 --> 0:59:07.480 how I built my portfolio. I tell people all the time, bro, 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.080 to be transparent. You know. I had music money in 0:59:10.120 --> 0:59:13.040 the nineties. I had hustle money as well. And the 0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:15.240 first piece of property I bought in Kansas City, I 0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.160 pay seventeen five for. It was a three bear room, 0:59:18.360 --> 0:59:21.600 one bear, three bed room, one bathroom house I pay 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:25.160 seventeen five for. I think I put another maybe fifteen 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:28.440 into it. I remember standing now, I'm like nineteen years old. 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:31.880 I remember standing in front of it, and I'm thinking, jam, Okay, 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.760 I'm into this house. You know, i'most thirty five racks 0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:37.000 and I'm renting it out for six hundred a month, 0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:39.640 and I'm like ship, you know, like I'm gonna get 0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:44.160 my money back, right. So you know, the game that 0:59:44.280 --> 0:59:47.680 I was in at that time was about volume, you know. 0:59:48.040 --> 0:59:51.000 So it dawned on me. It was like ship, Okay, 0:59:51.120 --> 0:59:54.120 if I get tentities, you know what I'm saying. Then 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.480 now as six to eight hundred a month that that 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.600 I could potentially get, it turns into six eight thousand 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.360 because I just I didn't know nothing about equity. I 1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:05.880 didn't know nothing about leveraging or any of that. Ship. 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:09.160 But to your point, man, there was properties that I 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.800 bought in Kansas City for five thousand because especially when 1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:18.040 you're talking cash, because what happens is this is what 1:00:18.160 --> 1:00:19.880 I would do. This is what I would do, James, 1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:23.040 because I had cash, right, so they would be asking 1:00:23.120 --> 1:00:26.240 twenty thousand dollars. So I would have my contractor go 1:00:26.400 --> 1:00:28.800 to the house. Sometimes he even had to break in 1:00:28.840 --> 1:00:31.160 the house, right, go and see that it was an 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:34.520 abandoned house. Go see give me a scope of work. 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:36.920 So that way, I would know how much I had 1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:39.040 to put into it, so I would before I even 1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:41.400 made an offer, I would know what the work is 1:00:41.760 --> 1:00:43.840 and what it could be worth, what the cops were 1:00:43.880 --> 1:00:46.880 in the area, so I would When you got cash, 1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:48.880 you can play hardball. So they would be like twenty 1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:51.160 thousand dollars. I would say, Man, I give y'all six 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:53.760 thousand dollars, five thousand dollars in our clothes in in 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:56.280 in forty eight hours, you know what I mean, And 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:59.040 they would take it. So when you have those investment groups, 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.160 which I've been a part of one before, when you 1:01:01.240 --> 1:01:04.040 pull your cash together, you're able to make those moves 1:01:04.200 --> 1:01:05.640 like that, you know what I'm saying, Because when you 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:08.320 got the cash on debt and you could play hardball, 1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:10.520 you know what I mean. And some of it is, 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:12.720 you know, sometimes you can get into it and flip, 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.760 but you know, there's also those long plays like what 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:18.400 Still was saying, that's that's good game, what you just said. 1:01:18.440 --> 1:01:21.480 If they didn't catch it, we're buying land and leasing 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:23.880 your land out, that's a good game, right for sure, 1:01:24.040 --> 1:01:26.600 and stuff like this. Let me show you core, because 1:01:26.640 --> 1:01:29.120 they're not making land anymore. They're not making anymore, So 1:01:29.240 --> 1:01:31.840 you're not making the more land if you can get it. 1:01:31.960 --> 1:01:35.040 Even stuff like this, can you guys see this right here? Yeah, 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:38.280 for sure, look at this. Let me say this, Let 1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:41.000 me say this real quick to anybody watching. But you 1:01:41.160 --> 1:01:44.600 have to be mindful. Listen, it looks cheap, right, but 1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:47.200 you still have to have the business model. You got 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:51.240 to understand your numbers because it could be for hundred dollars. 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:53.240 But then when you get to see the scope of 1:01:53.280 --> 1:01:55.560 the work, you want to be careful because it could 1:01:55.600 --> 1:01:59.120 work around and need sixty dollars worth to work and 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:01.880 it only comp out for fifty. So so you still 1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:03.920 got to do your homework on it. And you have 1:02:04.000 --> 1:02:05.840 to do your homework. And see I'm showing these and 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.400 these are more for like even if you've got a 1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:12.120 new family, right, a young family, Yeah, it's not bad. 1:02:12.200 --> 1:02:13.640 Like look at this point right here, This is ten 1:02:13.720 --> 1:02:17.440 thous dollars right here, right right, this house right in 1:02:17.480 --> 1:02:20.880 this particular home is something Wayne County. Right, it's a 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.080 three bed room and it needs a lot of work. 1:02:24.160 --> 1:02:27.520 You can see the um a lot of um fourage 1:02:27.520 --> 1:02:30.400 outside and stuff right there, even stuff like that like 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:33.640 court is exactly right. You don't know if the fourwags. 1:02:33.720 --> 1:02:37.160 Sometimes it's growing into the pipes in the house. Yeah, 1:02:37.480 --> 1:02:39.880 you gotta get your cop. You gotta get the cops 1:02:39.960 --> 1:02:43.160 like when you see yeah. So so that way you 1:02:43.360 --> 1:02:45.800 know what you have to spend and what you need, 1:02:45.840 --> 1:02:48.200 you know. So if you know that, okay, the houses 1:02:48.320 --> 1:02:51.960 that this square footage in this neighborhood are praising out 1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:55.440 when they're finished for eighty tho dollars, So I know 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:57.959 I need it. If I'm a flip it or whatever 1:02:58.000 --> 1:03:00.120 I'm gonna do, I know I need to be no 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:03.600 more than fifty in his house that's purchased and getting it, 1:03:04.080 --> 1:03:06.560 you know, renovated. So that's how you gotta look at it, 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:09.000 you know, because you want to make a profit and 1:03:09.360 --> 1:03:13.680 see what I'm proposing. Sometimes court like you're right up 1:03:13.880 --> 1:03:16.600 exact undercent right. You may go somewhere in the house 1:03:16.680 --> 1:03:19.400 may require a hundred thousand dollars, hundred thousand dollars worth 1:03:19.440 --> 1:03:24.800 of working there, but it may be the Compston area 1:03:24.880 --> 1:03:28.160 maybe only sixties and seventy, right, So you gotta think 1:03:28.200 --> 1:03:30.680 about it like this. Sometimes it's cheaper for you to 1:03:30.760 --> 1:03:34.240 go there by those three houses. Knock them all down. 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.320 Once you go. You gotta really do what that says. 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:39.040 You gotta have somebody want you to know what they're 1:03:39.040 --> 1:03:41.400 doing to right. Luckily I got the umple Us in 1:03:41.480 --> 1:03:43.320 construction and he just didn't want to told me don't 1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:44.760 go because I was going to buy this little too 1:03:44.800 --> 1:03:46.320 big of the house and it's just been sitting there 1:03:46.320 --> 1:03:48.960 for the loans that looked good and outside. My um 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.080 has been building houses for the last sixty years, he 1:03:51.160 --> 1:03:53.840 told me. He said, son, he said, that's no starter 1:03:54.040 --> 1:03:55.640 right there. He said, you buy that house is gonna 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:57.840 be worth more. Trouble, He said that the thing what 1:03:58.000 --> 1:04:02.560 happened was yea, the water python in front of the house. Yeah, 1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:10.000 the main line and yeah, you said by the time 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:12.520 you you know what he told me, shame just what 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.160 you said. He said that it's caught up by the 1:04:15.240 --> 1:04:17.360 sewer or something and it would literally cost about two 1:04:17.440 --> 1:04:20.920 hundred Because now you want these people property, you have 1:04:21.040 --> 1:04:25.000 to go dig a property next door. And I've had 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:26.880 it done a couple of times, and usually what it 1:04:26.960 --> 1:04:29.760 requires as a bobcat because they gotta dig up the 1:04:29.880 --> 1:04:33.000 yard from the house to the curve. Right. So I 1:04:33.040 --> 1:04:35.720 always tell people, rude, rude. Anybody that want to be 1:04:35.840 --> 1:04:39.840 investor or whatever. So I have a rule, Right, there's 1:04:39.880 --> 1:04:42.320 only one big thing that I'm going to fix in 1:04:42.360 --> 1:04:44.960 the house. Right, So if I go, you want to 1:04:45.040 --> 1:04:48.560 check the h v a C, the foundation, the main line, 1:04:48.840 --> 1:04:51.680 and the roof. So you pick your battle. You don't 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:53.760 want to go into a house and you got to 1:04:53.840 --> 1:04:56.880 do a rough h v a C the foundation note 1:04:58.160 --> 1:05:00.680 you know me, Yeah, you pick one. So if you 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:03.280 go into a house and it's like damn, okay, the 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:05.960 whole inside needs to be done and it only needs 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:08.480 a roof, Okay, cool if the numbers make sense. But 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:11.200 if you go into a house and it's like damn, 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:14.200 the foundation leaning, the house leaning, it needs h v 1:05:14.320 --> 1:05:17.400 a C, it needs a roof, that's too much. It's 1:05:17.440 --> 1:05:19.400 better off if you can get that plan for cheat 1:05:20.200 --> 1:05:22.680 better making an offering, getting a knock down and just 1:05:22.800 --> 1:05:25.440 having the lean and just rebuilding all over again. Many 1:05:25.720 --> 1:05:27.960 unless you do the work yourself. Unless you do the 1:05:28.040 --> 1:05:31.320 work yourself, then that's circumvinced. You know that that's fine 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:33.440 whatever you choose to do. But you know that's kind 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:36.200 of a ruler thumb because yeah, you'll get in over 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:38.000 your head to be a money pit wouldn't you be 1:05:38.120 --> 1:05:40.880 working you know, so andy of the problem if if 1:05:40.960 --> 1:05:43.640 all the houses are nice, and then you buy this 1:05:43.840 --> 1:05:47.200 house for thirty grand, you gotta do all the upgrades 1:05:47.320 --> 1:05:50.280 on this house to get the comps that you won't. 1:05:51.000 --> 1:05:55.280 Yeah you bring the value, Yeah you bring yeah, Yeah, 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:57.040 which is the way you want to do it, because 1:05:57.120 --> 1:05:59.600 because when you buy a house already done and ready 1:05:59.640 --> 1:06:01.840 to go, you know, you're being marked up on that. 1:06:02.200 --> 1:06:04.040 You know what I'm saying. The person is buying that 1:06:04.120 --> 1:06:06.479 you buy it from, They get the value. You're coming 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:08.959 in just you know, at market price, and you gotta 1:06:09.320 --> 1:06:12.000 you know, pay into the value. Start paying down that principle, 1:06:12.320 --> 1:06:14.560 and hopefully the cops go the other way, they go up, 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.400 you know what I'm saying. So you know, I want 1:06:17.480 --> 1:06:20.280 to Um, you know who does a pretty nice show 1:06:20.360 --> 1:06:24.000 on this same subject, man as Envy. They have an 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:26.600 excellent financial show. It's a pretty big show too, and 1:06:26.880 --> 1:06:28.560 they get a lot of ears to a shout off 1:06:28.600 --> 1:06:32.640 to the Homy d J Envy. But he's into that. 1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:35.680 I think him and Angeler he had actually partnered up 1:06:35.680 --> 1:06:38.720 and he was going off to Detroit getting um, you know, 1:06:38.880 --> 1:06:42.320 getting different houses and stuff. But yeah, you want to 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:44.120 get to this. And I'm telling you a fellas that 1:06:44.240 --> 1:06:45.760 you don't have to be a ball. You could be 1:06:45.840 --> 1:06:48.680 a regular working class dude. It's just a matter you're 1:06:48.720 --> 1:06:52.200 getting with like minded people. And that's very important, getting 1:06:52.240 --> 1:06:54.520 with like minded people and get into what you can afford, 1:06:54.560 --> 1:06:56.800 because it's not about going to everybody can go by 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:58.800 six and seven. At the same time, you may have 1:06:58.880 --> 1:07:01.000 to start off one at a time. I started out 1:07:01.040 --> 1:07:03.640 with one. I started out with one and and the 1:07:03.760 --> 1:07:06.920 thing is, there's so many other ways to acquire property too, 1:07:07.080 --> 1:07:10.000 So sometimes it ain't just having the money. Sometimes it's 1:07:10.080 --> 1:07:12.080 all you can. You can get it and have the 1:07:12.320 --> 1:07:15.320 you can do owner financing, you can do what they 1:07:15.560 --> 1:07:18.439 call with the owner carry paper. It's it's so many 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:21.000 different ways that you can acquire property if that's what 1:07:21.120 --> 1:07:23.480 you want to do. They got hard money loans. You 1:07:23.600 --> 1:07:27.880 just have to be very structured and and and together 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.240 um um. You gotta be prepared for the hard money 1:07:31.280 --> 1:07:34.440 loans because again that does a higher interest rate and 1:07:34.560 --> 1:07:36.760 you have a certain amount of time to you know, 1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:38.720 you you don't want to be carrying a high that 1:07:38.840 --> 1:07:41.160 high mortgage while you're getting it done because the hard 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:43.560 money loan. They will provide you with the money to 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:46.120 purchase the house, and they give you draws to rehab 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:53.560 the house as well. Um so right, Um, if you 1:07:53.720 --> 1:07:55.760 have enough homes, like let's say, once you get to 1:07:55.840 --> 1:07:58.120 your third or fourth homes, by that point, we have 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:00.560 a lot of equity fuil up the true If you 1:08:00.640 --> 1:08:02.680 have a lot of equity built up in your four homes, 1:08:02.720 --> 1:08:06.640 you can walk pretty much in any bank. Sure, yeah, yeah, 1:08:06.800 --> 1:08:09.240 because you have now, because you have collateral. You know 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:12.080 what I'm saying. You have collateral and see every all 1:08:12.160 --> 1:08:15.080 the information that I'm that I'm saying now bro is listen. 1:08:15.160 --> 1:08:18.160 I'm not formally educated. I graduated from high school, so 1:08:18.320 --> 1:08:21.519 all my experience comes from trialing there. I made every mistake, 1:08:21.720 --> 1:08:26.600 you know what I'm saying. So so, so what I 1:08:26.640 --> 1:08:29.720 would tell people is to build your company credit. You're like, 1:08:29.800 --> 1:08:31.840 when I first started, I had all them properties in 1:08:31.920 --> 1:08:34.519 my name, you know, which was a mistake. I didn't 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:38.120 know to create a corporation. I didn't know that, right, 1:08:38.479 --> 1:08:40.880 So um I would Yeah, if you got three four 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:43.080 properties free and clear, man, you're good. You know, you 1:08:43.200 --> 1:08:46.120 go in, you get a line of credit, you know, 1:08:46.200 --> 1:08:48.680 a home equity line of credit. But you gotta be 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:51.040 responsible with it, you know what I'm saying. And then 1:08:51.120 --> 1:08:53.000 you get it in your company name. You build your 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:56.160 company credit and then you repeat, you know, you do that, 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:58.680 you use that, you leverage those properties, because that's what, 1:08:58.840 --> 1:09:00.960 in essence, what I end doing. You know, by the 1:09:01.040 --> 1:09:03.040 time I got to twelve properties, I had them free 1:09:03.080 --> 1:09:06.040 and clear and that I knew nothing about credit. I 1:09:06.120 --> 1:09:08.240 knew nothing about equity. I knew nothing about none of that. 1:09:08.360 --> 1:09:10.880 It was a lady at at a credit union. That's 1:09:10.920 --> 1:09:15.240 the other game too. So when you're an investor, especially minority, 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:21.080 start banking with credit unions, those smaller banks, especially if 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:23.599 you're a black woman. Believe it or not, they always 1:09:23.640 --> 1:09:26.960 have programs that are geared towards minority businesses. You know 1:09:27.080 --> 1:09:29.400 where they have to you know, they want to give 1:09:29.439 --> 1:09:31.360 you money. They want to give you credit cards and 1:09:31.439 --> 1:09:34.400 credit especially if you have collateral. So you know, do 1:09:34.560 --> 1:09:38.040 your banking with smaller banks and you get a lower 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:42.720 interest rate. Blood lower interest rate. Absolutely, so you know, 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:44.720 once you can get your hand on one or two, 1:09:45.160 --> 1:09:47.160 you know, like I say, it's all in what your 1:09:47.200 --> 1:09:49.160 goals are. If you want to flip them, if you 1:09:49.240 --> 1:09:53.240 want to you know for residual income. You know it's 1:09:53.320 --> 1:09:55.920 it's a pretty good business. It's got his ups and downs, 1:09:56.040 --> 1:09:59.880 but you know you can win. Before we get out 1:09:59.880 --> 1:10:06.400 of yet, we have to share this information with other people. 1:10:06.479 --> 1:10:08.439 I'm very big about give you know how I am 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:11.280 court anybody that's gonna listen, I'm gonna give them good information. 1:10:11.920 --> 1:10:14.160 That was one of the things we have to get out, 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:18.080 the habit of black people of doing everything under our name. 1:10:18.600 --> 1:10:20.519 What was the first thing I had you go do, James, 1:10:20.560 --> 1:10:24.360 when we got together, Get you a LLC. This is 1:10:24.400 --> 1:10:26.680 that simple. It don't cost that much. Don't fall for 1:10:26.760 --> 1:10:29.840 these things online. What they say for no where you 1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:31.760 can go get your E I N. Number. It takes 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:35.920 all the five minutes. You'll get that for three. Yeah, 1:10:36.760 --> 1:10:39.080 don't get your stuff together because if stuff is not 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:41.400 under your name, and then what this does right here, 1:10:42.640 --> 1:10:45.400 Let's say you do start a mass in property, you 1:10:45.479 --> 1:10:48.200 start having some troubles in your life. If everything is 1:10:48.280 --> 1:10:50.400 under your name, they can go after your properties and everything. 1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:53.840 But I can own fifty I can own fifty hours 1:10:54.000 --> 1:10:56.880 around here, and if it's something of my corporation, man, 1:10:56.920 --> 1:10:59.720 I ain't got it. They can't get they can they 1:10:59.760 --> 1:11:05.320 can't don't get nothing. So made every mistake, Bro, I've 1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:07.439 made every mistake. So I've been through that too, and 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:10.200 that is true. Yeah, because I learned one time when 1:11:10.240 --> 1:11:12.040 I got here with the text love you. One time 1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:15.560 I had everything up under Norman Steel. They came and 1:11:15.680 --> 1:11:20.240 just it was like never again. I learned. I said, 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.600 you know what, this won't happen to me again. I 1:11:22.720 --> 1:11:24.639 stay on the I R S is uh a little 1:11:24.760 --> 1:11:28.760 little you know, hit list. Man. I stayed with them. Hey, 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:31.920 I stayed with them, them green certified letters coming. You 1:11:32.000 --> 1:11:35.400 know what I mean? All I do is say, man, 1:11:35.439 --> 1:11:37.719 they add that to the U to the pay repay 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:39.840 back and planing. I got before and I had this 1:11:39.960 --> 1:11:43.080 on everything. But the thing it was, man. One thing 1:11:43.200 --> 1:11:45.840 we have to realize, man, is that there's a wealth 1:11:45.920 --> 1:11:48.400 of information out there. The Internet has made all of 1:11:48.479 --> 1:11:51.920 this information accessible to the common man. What do your 1:11:51.960 --> 1:11:54.519 research like? Like, I'm not a real estate group by 1:11:54.560 --> 1:11:57.200 any means. I just came up on that little bit 1:11:57.200 --> 1:11:59.160 of land. I don't own a whole bunch of property 1:11:59.200 --> 1:12:01.400 outside the house that we own and that, but I 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:04.320 do plan on getting more because what I realized as 1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:08.799 I get older, you always have to have multiple stream 1:12:08.920 --> 1:12:11.200 stuff income. You can't just sit back and depend on 1:12:11.320 --> 1:12:13.000 one thing. I don't care how much money you're making 1:12:13.040 --> 1:12:15.400 with it. You need to have multiple things going on, 1:12:15.600 --> 1:12:18.040 stuff that won't necessarily take a lot of your time 1:12:18.240 --> 1:12:24.439 necessarily because yeah, exactly, because like me, I'm real time stinch. 1:12:24.479 --> 1:12:26.120 You know I don't have this court you know how 1:12:26.200 --> 1:12:28.040 to heal for me? Man, my phone ringing a hundred 1:12:28.080 --> 1:12:30.200 times a day. I got fifty million things. I'm doing it, 1:12:30.560 --> 1:12:32.800 so I don't have a lot of time. So little things, 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:35.880 man like eat little things. They could be something that 1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:38.040 may bring you five hundred dollars a month. We can't 1:12:38.080 --> 1:12:39.760 look at everything like the bigg Look, it could be 1:12:39.800 --> 1:12:42.040 something that may bring you five six hundred dollars a month. 1:12:42.640 --> 1:12:46.599 Every opportunity adds up to bigger opportunities. With that being said, 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:49.439 we out of here. No wait a minute, Wait a minute, 1:12:49.479 --> 1:12:53.320 hold on. I want to know because I want to grow. 1:12:54.720 --> 1:12:57.320 I want to be able to leave, like I said earlier, 1:12:58.280 --> 1:13:01.680 something for my kids and my grand kids. So how 1:13:01.720 --> 1:13:05.320 do you get into of flipping in and all of that, 1:13:05.840 --> 1:13:08.560 bying houses and ship How do you get into it? 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:11.640 Because I've always believed you have to have a lot 1:13:11.680 --> 1:13:15.200 of money to start that with. Now you you don't, 1:13:15.320 --> 1:13:18.280 You don't really. I will say this though, James, it's 1:13:18.280 --> 1:13:21.559 a little different out here in Cali because it's way 1:13:21.680 --> 1:13:24.560 more expensive. I've never done it here in Cali, you know, 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:28.599 I've always chosen the South and the Midwest because obviously 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.760 the cost of living. Um. But as I said, you 1:13:31.840 --> 1:13:35.360 know there, you know, it depends that. You know, again, 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:39.400 you've got hard money situations, you got private money, um. Again, 1:13:39.479 --> 1:13:41.599 depending on how your credit is, depending on how your 1:13:42.000 --> 1:13:44.519 your business credit is you have. You can do a 1:13:44.680 --> 1:13:47.320 paper loans, you know. Um, you can do first time 1:13:47.400 --> 1:13:50.400 investor loans a lot of times. You just need a 1:13:50.479 --> 1:13:52.760 percentage of the money. You know what I'm saying. You 1:13:52.760 --> 1:13:54.880 don't need a lot of money like safer instance, James, 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.320 if I took you to Kansas City, right or or 1:13:57.320 --> 1:14:00.639 if still took you to Ohio, you know, I mean 1:14:00.680 --> 1:14:03.479 you're talking. I mean, you know, if it's a property, 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:07.720 that's that's what. Let's just say twenty dollars, you know 1:14:07.720 --> 1:14:09.800 what I mean. Say you gotta put ten percent down, 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:12.400 you know what I mean, it's two thousand dollars, you 1:14:12.479 --> 1:14:14.720 know what I mean? So that's two thousand closing calls, 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:17.479 so you might be out maybe what maybe thirty five 1:14:17.840 --> 1:14:21.439 dollars or something just about thirty five. You see what 1:14:21.479 --> 1:14:23.960 I'm saying. So now when you talk about you know, 1:14:24.240 --> 1:14:27.240 the getting it rehab, you do that as you can. 1:14:27.479 --> 1:14:30.040 What I would say, is it again, this is where 1:14:30.640 --> 1:14:34.479 having your business structured right and going to those credit unions. 1:14:34.520 --> 1:14:36.360 So now once you acquire say you only got the 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.240 thirty five to acquire it, right, but you you got 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:41.800 it now right. The mortgage on that on a twenty 1:14:41.840 --> 1:14:44.000 thousand dollar house, thirty year mortgage probably gonna be a 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:46.880 hundred eighty five dollars a month. So now you have 1:14:47.000 --> 1:14:49.240 this piece of property. So now you can take that 1:14:49.520 --> 1:14:52.439 along with you already having your LLC, your corporation or whatever, 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:55.080 go to the local credit union and say, hey, I 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:57.280 want to get along, I want to line of credit 1:14:57.560 --> 1:14:59.840 or I want a credit card, and I have this 1:15:00.080 --> 1:15:03.519 property you know, as leverage, so now you can get 1:15:03.560 --> 1:15:06.880 you you know, twenty thirty dollars, you know what I'm saying, 1:15:06.960 --> 1:15:10.840 either most likely in a line of credit or or 1:15:11.040 --> 1:15:13.479 a credit card that could help you get it rehab. 1:15:13.800 --> 1:15:16.799 But again, you just gotta be you gotta be intentional 1:15:16.920 --> 1:15:19.400 and structured, so you gotta understand the numbers. You know, 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:21.599 you know what that is, Jake. It's just like the street. 1:15:21.880 --> 1:15:24.040 It's just like the streets, you boyo. You know how 1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:25.680 to put your mark up on it and there it is. 1:15:26.120 --> 1:15:28.880 So you understand what the houses are going for in 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:31.400 that area. And then you have to figure out if 1:15:31.439 --> 1:15:34.720 you want to sell that house to another investor or 1:15:34.840 --> 1:15:38.800 two owner occupied, because owner occupied you're gonna get top 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:41.519 dollar an investor. So it's just like the streets. You're 1:15:41.560 --> 1:15:43.960 gonna sell to another host seller, you know what I'm saying, 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:46.080 or you're gonna sell it to a negative is gonna 1:15:46.120 --> 1:15:48.320 be you know, in the corner with it. So there's 1:15:48.320 --> 1:15:51.160 different prices. So it's the same thing, you know, but 1:15:51.640 --> 1:15:54.080 a couple of thousand you could definitely get into something. 1:15:54.120 --> 1:15:56.320 It'll be a little different out here, but you know, 1:15:56.439 --> 1:15:58.840 you move into the Midwest cities, man, a couple of bands, 1:15:58.920 --> 1:16:01.439 you can get it. No, I was gonna say, you 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:04.760 don't necessarily have to stay out here, James. You have Mississippi. Um, 1:16:05.479 --> 1:16:08.439 the homely Dad's has done done very well. Really state 1:16:08.479 --> 1:16:13.679 in Mississippi looking up better for myself and I'm winning, Yeah, 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:18.560 to get where I want to go. Mississippi. Yeah, you 1:16:18.600 --> 1:16:20.120 know you don't necessarily have to go back to the 1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:23.200 Midwest of the code. You know you got Mississippi, dude. Yeah, 1:16:24.680 --> 1:16:28.920 I think that has brought this first time when he 1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:31.439 was got a bunch of I think the same thing, 1:16:31.600 --> 1:16:34.519 Jay C. The bigger figure is in Alabama, you know 1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:36.560 what I mean. Like he went to Alabama with his 1:16:36.640 --> 1:16:40.559 ship and brought up a bunch of ships and yeah 1:16:42.320 --> 1:16:45.479 much even my partner John now from Oakland. Uh, he 1:16:45.560 --> 1:16:48.400 went to St. Louis, bro and he literally bought the 1:16:48.479 --> 1:16:51.920 whole block. He bought He bought a school. He bought 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:54.559 a whole fucking school and yeah, you know what I mean, 1:16:54.760 --> 1:16:58.320 and turned it into like a house slash a community center, 1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:00.320 you know what I mean. So you can act to 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:03.360 the U, to the Midwest or the South, James, but 1:17:03.439 --> 1:17:06.559 you know we can wrap about it. Bro. Okay, guys, 1:17:06.640 --> 1:17:09.439 you know when you've got my number, bro, Yeah, what 1:17:09.600 --> 1:17:12.800 you do is going Dad's dealing just Instagram because he's 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:15.440 always talking about you know, Dad's haven't been buying Bobcats 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:18.760 and everything else. Dad's bought him like three acres of 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:21.680 land when Atlanta was cheap. Atlanta started to get hot 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:24.040 now and he bought it like when it was cheap 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:26.800 late in the back and everything. Not what he's doing 1:17:26.840 --> 1:17:29.559 is building Dad's don't build him his twelve thirteen dead 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:35.120 room house, his retirement house. Right But behind that he's 1:17:35.160 --> 1:17:37.519 gotten um, you know, the prefab homes. They're not the 1:17:37.600 --> 1:17:39.479 mobile home for the pre fab homes. He's put the 1:17:39.520 --> 1:17:42.720 four because what he said is what he's doing is 1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:44.920 when he got gifts to come over, they don't have 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:46.760 to come in and mess up this houfice. Now, hey, 1:17:46.840 --> 1:17:48.519 you're gonna take that three bed room over there. You 1:17:48.600 --> 1:17:50.080 can take that too. Bear, we go back there with 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:53.000 your family and be cool. I think even talking about 1:17:53.040 --> 1:17:54.920 building the club back there. So he said, I ain't 1:17:54.920 --> 1:17:56.320 got to go onto it no more. He's going in 1:17:56.400 --> 1:17:59.599 my backyard, take the golf gard over there. But he's 1:17:59.640 --> 1:18:01.680 literally building a lot of this stuff when his own 1:18:01.760 --> 1:18:05.479 because he's acquired the knowledge over the years. And this 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:07.280 is a lot of information, Like James, this is a 1:18:07.320 --> 1:18:09.439 lot of good brothers that to give you information. And 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:12.439 I'm gonna give you the go ahead. I'm sorry, still 1:18:12.479 --> 1:18:16.120 go ahead, No, just one more piece of game. When 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:18.639 you are building your business credit. And this is nothing 1:18:18.680 --> 1:18:21.559 I legal en nothing. It's ways to get different trade 1:18:21.680 --> 1:18:24.920 lines on your credit. But this is something we're talking about, 1:18:24.960 --> 1:18:28.280 like kind of offline. Sometimes it's ways to add different 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:32.479 trade lines to your credit. Because even something the simplest like, um, 1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:35.799 I remember my first trade line, dude, was me getting 1:18:35.920 --> 1:18:38.800 some inkpens from this company. Dude, but you know my 1:18:38.960 --> 1:18:42.639 logos and stuff up, and yeah, you give me sixty 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:44.960 days to pay for. What you do is you take 1:18:45.040 --> 1:18:47.280 the sixty days even though it's only fifty bucks, a 1:18:47.360 --> 1:18:49.880 hundred bucks. You've got some mugs, you've got some different stuff, 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:53.200 but that establishes your credit. Then from there you start 1:18:53.280 --> 1:18:56.080 getting bigger offers for credit. You may get a credit 1:18:56.120 --> 1:18:59.000 card that may say you got a limit on it. 1:18:59.160 --> 1:19:03.120 Right from there, it keeps going up and up and 1:19:03.360 --> 1:19:06.240 up and up. You just don't want that. I tell brothers, 1:19:06.320 --> 1:19:08.800 you gotta make sure we gotta do a better job 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:11.960 at black people's keeping our credit in order. I have 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:15.120 very horrible credit a couple of times in life. Me too, 1:19:15.560 --> 1:19:18.560 Me too. You know, I got it together. But you know, 1:19:18.640 --> 1:19:20.840 the area is a free game for you guys out there, 1:19:20.880 --> 1:19:25.840 and we appreciate your tuning in, and I appreciate your 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:28.120 brothers coming to sit doing with me one more time, 1:19:28.360 --> 1:19:32.080 all the time, all the time, all the time, always honor, 1:19:33.320 --> 1:19:37.040 always for sure. And now we officially out of here. 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:41.479 You'll have a blessed day. Well. That concludes another episode 1:19:41.479 --> 1:19:44.080 of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the 1:19:44.120 --> 1:19:46.880 i Heart app and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast. 1:19:47.240 --> 1:19:49.280 For Apple users, find a purple mica on the front 1:19:49.280 --> 1:19:51.400 of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment 1:19:51.479 --> 1:19:54.760 and rating. 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