1 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan cal Kalaian. Here's 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: cal Our. Ongoing coverage of the Japanese bear attack crisis 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: is coming full circle this week with the news that 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: a hut cuisine French restaurant in the city of Sapporo 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: now has bear meat on the menu. Chef Kiyoshi Fujimoto 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: has been cooperating directly with professional hunters in the town 8 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: of Bie to make use of the bears they're culling 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: there in his restaurant, Le Caine kios I think is 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: how it's pronounced. Fujimoto didn't want those bears to go 11 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: to waste, telling the Menichi Shimbun newspaper quote, I want 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: customers to enjoy the meal. These bears lost their lives 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: for it, and I have to say it sounds like 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: quite a meal. For twenty thousand year or about one 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five bucks, you can get five courses, 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: including roasted bear meat and braised bear belly in a 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: bear broth consumme. Looking at the photos on the restaurant's website, 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: it looks like it would be about twenty thousand yen 19 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: well spent. There's definitely quite a bit of bear meat 20 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: available these days with the recent military assisted push to 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: cull them. Although we don't yet have final numbers for 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: total bears trapped or shot in Japan in twenty twenty five, 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: the figure is likely to blow twenty twenty four out 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: of the water. Just in Hokkaido, the single prefecture where 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: Ba and Sapporo are located, oney twenty six brown bears 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: were killed last year. That's gonna be a lot of 27 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: braised bear belly. Now, I got to tell you, I 28 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: don't have a ton of experience cooking brown bear, but 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the brown bear I have cooked so far from my 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: super awesome Alaska Peninsula brown bear adventure has been really great. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: Two thumbs up all the way around. A few weeks ago, 32 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: I suggested that the Japanese could develop wasabi bears, and 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: now I'm realizing it could have an application both in 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: the field and at the table. In the afternoon, you 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: could save your life, and then later that night you 36 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: could pep up a bland meal by whipping out that 37 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: same cann of bear spray and giving a little zap 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: with wassabi. And I'm sure everybody carries a little show 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: you in their pocket too. This week we've got public 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: Lands America first non residents, and so much more of it. First, 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about my week, and my 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: week was great. Went down to Boulder, Colorado to join 43 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: on x Griffin post, Eric Jackson, Emily Zenobia, three well 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: known figures in the snow sports world, oh in a 45 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: special guest appearance by Angel Collinson that was cool, as 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: well as some notable folks from the conservation world such 47 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: as the Trust for Public Lands, Outdoor Recreation round Table, 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: the Conservation Alliance, and Colorado BHA. We were all down 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: there for the world premiere of Inaccessible, a backcountry ski 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: film that, amongst several points, made highlights the checkerboard land 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: we so often reference here in the West by a 52 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: ski adventure in the crazy Mountains. If you're still a 53 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: little fuzzy on how that stuff works, it's a great 54 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: fun film to check out and you can definitely learn 55 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: some stuff, So check her out streaming right now. The 56 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: Boulder theater was packed and at the end we got 57 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: to talk public lands right there on stage, somewhere around 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: the five hundred person Marty I'm guessing talk public lands, landownership, access, 59 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: responsible use. It was a great night, and thank you 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: to everyone who attended, but double thank you to those 61 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: of you who purchased BHA memberships. Great job on x 62 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: and Griffin Post and Eric Jackson Emily Zenobia crushed it. 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: Great job. Evenings like this are notable as we are 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: often told that different segments of the outdoor recreation pie 65 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: cannot get along, when in fact there's often way more 66 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: overlap right there in the middle, especially when it comes 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: to our reasons for being outside and enjoying our big, 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: beautiful public lands. Then there are disagreeances right now. We 69 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: have a lot of good things at risk. Waters of 70 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the United States, our ability to have clean water for 71 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: gosh sakes, America's grasslands, which we are losing two million 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: acres a year, public lands sell off, public land protections 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: are the way of the roadless rule, management plan recisions, 74 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: inadequate staffing. The list goes on and on, and all 75 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: of this stuff matters, and all of it is a 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: heck of a lot easier to fight for advocate for 77 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: if we can drop our factional divides and focus on 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: the big piece of pie right in the middle where 79 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: we overlap, deal with that minute show later, Good Start 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: is given the gift of public lands this holiday season 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: gift to BHA membership. Those dollars go to advocating for 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: our public lands and waters from offices in DC all 83 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: the way out to pulling fence on BLM ground to 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: improve wildlife corridors. Take a look. Sign up for the 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: email newsletters, sign up for a bunch of them TRCP 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: NWF tpl NWTFPFQF. Heck, you can even become a society 87 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: member and get access to the real deal science with 88 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the Wildlife Society plug in. Help out. Join up now. 89 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: Because everything you and I enjoy is here right now. 90 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: We've enjoyed it because we're enjoying the fruits of other 91 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: people's labor, the people before us who have demanded that 92 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: that stuff be here. It is not by chance we 93 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: have our amazing public lands, waters and wildlife. It's not luck. 94 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: It's demand, and right now it is time we demand, 95 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: like in the public Lands Rule, for example, that we 96 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 1: value our public lands, waters and wildlife alongside our extractive 97 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: natural resources, which can be done. This is America. We 98 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: can have our guns and our public lands and don't 99 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: trust the people who says we can't we have to 100 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: demand demand a better deal. Moving on to the vaulting 101 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: ambition desk public land access. In the battle over public 102 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: land access, the sides often seem to break down, with 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: heroic DIY hunters on one side versus villainous landowners scheming 104 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 1: to keep us out on the other. But it's hardly 105 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: ever that simple. Take for example, David Fabion, a Wyoming 106 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: based big game hunter who over the past few years 107 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: he's been chartering a helicopter to fly him and his 108 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: hunting partners into landlocked public ground in Wyoming. He's writing 109 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: about this no holds barred approach is well worth read 110 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: over at Guns and Ammo, where Fabian is an editor 111 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: and staff writer. He's certainly chosen a fitting place for 112 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: his chopper hunts. According to Onax, Wyoming has around two 113 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: point four million total acres of inaccessible public land, an 114 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: area about as large as the Big Island of Hawaii. 115 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: One example of what that land looks like up on 116 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: the Montana border and the Powder River Basin, huge contiguous 117 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: chunks totally more than six thousand acres, completely surrounded by 118 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: privately owned ranches. So scrappy hunter hiring a helicopter for 119 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: the five minute trip up and over into that public 120 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,679 Speaker 1: land seems like an obvious protagonist. However, the details muddy 121 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: the picture. If Fabian had a five mile long pole 122 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: vault to get to this lamp, there would be no issue. 123 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: But there are very strict rules around the use of 124 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: aircraft when it comes to hunting. For example, in Alaska, 125 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: it's illegal to hunt on the same day as you 126 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: fly in. This prevents people from spotting game from the air, 127 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: dropping down for a quick shot, packing the meat up, 128 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: and flying out lickety split. Aerial road hunting, as it were. 129 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: That's a hunt that violates fair chase, and the laws 130 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: are in place to enforce that same deal. In Wyoming, 131 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: law in the book states quote, no person shall use 132 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: any aircraft a spot, locate, and aid in the taking 133 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: of any trophy game animal. However, there's plenty of gray 134 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: area there. If the aircraft is only used for transportation, 135 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: not for spotting or pursuing game, then you're okay. So Fabian, 136 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: we're a helicopter pilot himself and flew along with a 137 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: buddy into these out of the way areas, no problem. 138 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: There are lots of amateur small aircraft clubs that fly 139 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: hunters around free at charge to keep their skills up. 140 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: That kind of cooperation would also be fine, But other 141 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: rules here applied to exchanging money for aid in hunting, 142 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: that is, guiding or outfitting. Wyoming's legal definition of an 143 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: outfitter is anyone who, quote, for the purpose of financial gain, 144 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: provides guide or packing services for the purpose of taking 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: any big or trophy game animal. Fabion paid a helicopter 146 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: operator to get him in and the animals he killed 147 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: out and moving that meat and equipment sounds like the 148 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: packing services that an outfitter provides. This helicopter company did 149 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: not have an outfitter's license. Maybe these trips were illegal. 150 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,359 Speaker 1: The maybe is a big one, but it gets more complex. 151 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Wyoming law also defines packing services as quote, transportation for 152 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: hire or remuneration hunters, game annals, or equipment in the 153 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: field for the purpose of taking any big game or 154 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: trophy animal. The key phrase there is in the field. 155 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: Fabian argues that because the helicopter company isn't advertising itself 156 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: as a hunting specific transportation company, it is not an outfitter, 157 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: and because the flights take off from public roadways and 158 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: land on service roads within the BLM, the helicopter is 159 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: never technically in the field. You might argue that everywhere 160 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: on BLM land where there are elk running around is 161 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: in the field. But you know it's illegal to shoot 162 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: game from a truck on a roadway, which would imply 163 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: that the road is not in the field. So maybe 164 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: it is legal to land your helicopter without an outfitter 165 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: license if you make sure to stick to the roads. 166 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: After all, ups wouldn't need an outfitting license to get 167 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: your game meet from a pickup in downtown Gillette, Wyoming 168 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: to your front door in Orlando, Florida. So after all 169 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: these semantics, what do the motives of all our players 170 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: look like? I identify with the parts of David Fabian's mission, 171 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: and he is forcing an issue of what is or 172 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: is not legal on public regardless of how influential the 173 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: surrounding landowners are. But he isn't exactly in a David 174 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: and Goliath's story. It costs several thousand dollars to charter 175 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: a helicopter, and he has the institutional backing of a 176 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: major media outlet working on his behalf. I can relate 177 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: to that and zooming out. Do we want rich dudes 178 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: and helicopters flying over our heads when we're in the outdoors. 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Surely we could also build a permanent concrete overpass from 180 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: public land to public land, but that footprint on the 181 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: landscape sure would not be worth it. How about the landowners, Well, 182 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: of course some have been pretty unhappy, and some charge 183 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: significant trespass fees to allow outfitters to cross their land 184 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: to get to public but several other local landowners have 185 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: been over backwards to allow controlled access to preserve habitat 186 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: for healthy wildlife populations to be good stewards of the land. 187 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: Does it serve the animals themselves to have helicopters buzzing 188 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: them overhead? What's motivating the outfitters in this situation? Of course, 189 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: established outfitters have a vested interest in keeping things the 190 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: way they are. If all of a sudden, a lot 191 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: of helly hunters are killing the trophy elk they've had 192 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: near exclusive access to, that puts their business in jeopardy. 193 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: But being rigorous about licenses is important. It means outfitters 194 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: have insurance that they're reputable, that if something bad happens 195 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: out there, clients can hold them accountable. I'll also tell 196 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: you that outfitting is not a high margin business and 197 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: protecting the livelihoods of skilled guides isn't a bad thing. 198 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: So all in all, there's impacts to everybody's behavior. Imagine 199 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: that if this brief overview peaked your behavior your interest. 200 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: The Wyoming Board of Outfitters and Professional Guides is holding 201 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: their quarterly meeting this Thursday, December eighteen. This body can 202 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: set rules to clarify all this and help everyone involved. 203 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: In particular, they could define exactly what in the field 204 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: means that seems like something you should be interested in. 205 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: If you're on your way to a place to kill elk, 206 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: does that count as in the field even if you 207 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: stick to roadways. Answering that question would go a long way. 208 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: They could also clarify when general passenger transport becomes hunter 209 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: transport subject to outfitter rules around packing services. All you 210 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: out there no doubt have lots of opinions, so get 211 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: your butt to this meeting. We'll post a link on 212 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: the cal to action page on the Meat Eater website. 213 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: It'll be in person and accessible by a zoom, So 214 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: you cowboy staters out there don't have an excuse for 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: staying out of this conversation just to go further into 216 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: the details here. Right, So, like most days, I'm a hunter. 217 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: I'm always looking at things from a hunter perspective. Oftentimes 218 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: there's guns in my truck. But when am I actually 219 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: a hunter? Right? When I take off for a hunt 220 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: and hit the old Bosangelis airport and fly on delta, 221 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm a hunter. I'm going hunting. This is part of 222 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: the act of transportation to get to hunting, that big 223 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: old commercial airliner. When I hit the ground, do my 224 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: growe shopping and everything else, I'm in the whole act 225 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: of my hunting journey. But I'm probably never going to 226 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: get approached by a game warden while I'm in the 227 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: grocery store or at the gas pump. As a further example, 228 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: I can tote my guns, bow whatever around on public 229 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: land at any time of the year, during hunting season 230 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: or not. What makes me a hunter or not a 231 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: hunter versus somebody who's carrying a gun or a bow 232 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: at a target shoot or practice or in self defense. 233 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of interesting little nuances here that are 234 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: are agents of wildlife protection those regulations. It is their 235 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: duty to interpret what the heck is going on out there, 236 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: in this case, a helicopter hunting Our buddy Andrew McKean, 237 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: who's been an awesome conservation stalwart over the years. He 238 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: recently was on an interesting hunt in Wyoming. We may 239 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: already cover this, where they did some helicopter flying in 240 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: and had a poor interaction with a neighboring landowner who 241 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: decided to try to steal a trophy elkhead from their group. 242 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: That's just a bad actor who should not be representative 243 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: of outfitters or landowners or ranchers. That's just somebody who 244 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: made a real bad choice having a bad day. I 245 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: don't know anything beyond that, whether whether he's a jerk 246 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: every other day of the year or not, but he 247 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: sure was a jerk that day. If we don't figure 248 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: out permanent legal access to our public lands, we will 249 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: be dealing with things like this. And should you outlaw 250 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: helicopter access even though it is not for everybody. My 251 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: thought is no, so long as there is no other 252 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: established means of access. If that's the only way you 253 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: can get into a chunk, my thought is he got 254 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: to leave that door open. Would love to hear what 255 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: you think. If there's other less impactful means of access. Man. 256 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I want to look at them, but I don't see 257 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: these situations as a one size fits all solution. Askcl 258 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: that's ascal at themeateater dot com. Let me know what 259 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: you think. Moving on to the old National Parks desk, 260 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: the Department of the Interior announced last month that non 261 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: resident visitors to eleven of the most visited national parks 262 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: will pay an extra one hundred dollars per person on 263 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: top of the usual entrance feet. If foreign visitors want 264 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: to get an annual pass, it will cost them two 265 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars, while American citizens and permanent residents 266 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: will continue to pay the usual eighty. Interior Secretary Doug 267 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: Bergham said the move is designed to make sure foreign 268 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: tourists pay their fair share. He said, quote these policies 269 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: ensure that US taxpayers who already support the national park 270 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,239 Speaker 1: system continue to enjoy affordable access, while international visitors contribute 271 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: their fair share to maintaining and improving our parks for 272 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: future generations. The National Park will also offer eight fee 273 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: free days in twenty twenty six, but these will only 274 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: be available to American citizens and permanent residents. International visitors 275 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: will still have to pay the usual fee on these days. 276 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: This plan was one of the things that administration brought 277 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: up when they were criticized for trying to slash the 278 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: budget of the National Park Service. They hoped charging more 279 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: for foreign tourists would help bridge that gap, but as 280 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: we said at the time, it's a pretty big gap. 281 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Only time will tell if this actually results in more 282 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: funding for the Park Service, or if foreign tourists decide 283 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: to take their euros one sheck als pounds somewhere else. 284 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: And I just got a wonder about our only international 285 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: Peace Park, Glacier Waterton. Chunk of that park's on the 286 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: Canadian side. What about all my good friends north of 287 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: the border? Moving on to the non resident desk, the 288 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: campaign to make life more difficult for non resident hunters 289 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: continues this week, as both Idaho and Montana announced newpaul 290 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: to slash deer and elk tags for out of staters. 291 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: Idaho says it will no longer offer over the counter 292 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: deer and elk tags for non residents. Instead, all non 293 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: resident tags for these species will be doled out in 294 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: a lottery system. What does this mean if you live 295 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: in Maine and want to chase elk? And Idaho you 296 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: won't be able to buy a general season tag online 297 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: or over the counter. You'll have to enter a drawing, 298 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: and you'll only be able to hunt if you get selected. Now, 299 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: this actually isn't as big of a deal as it 300 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: might sound. That's because for the last few years, non 301 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: residents have had to fight giant lines, both in person 302 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: and online, to have a shot at one of these tags. 303 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: People have waited at their computers for hours and hours. 304 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: Some have even flown into Idaho before the tags go 305 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: on sale to stand in line at a local sporting 306 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: goods store or a gas station. Idaho Fishing Games says 307 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: they've received many complaints about the status quo, so they're 308 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: going to imitate other Western states and make non residents 309 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: enter a draw for all tags. Importantly, they say they 310 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: aren't making this decision due to overcrowding. They say they 311 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: already have addressed that complaint by capping the number of 312 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: out of state hunters who can hunt in any given unit. 313 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: Making non residents enter a lottery is meant to stop 314 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: the complaints around the current system, to which I say, 315 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: good luck. Hunters will usually find a way to complain 316 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: and no matter what, but I hope everyone feels like 317 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: a lottery system is more fair. Moving over to my 318 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: home state of Montana, the Wildlife Commission voted last week 319 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: to reduce the number of nonresident deer tags by about 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred. They made this decision for two reasons. First, 321 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: they want to address what some hunters and landowners see 322 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: as an overcrowding problem. The report outlining the rationale for 323 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: the decision reads, quote, relative to residents, the number of 324 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: non resident hunters, their hunting effort, and their harvest have 325 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: become points of focus for the Legislature, Commission and the public, 326 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: including landowners. Point of focus is bureaucratics speak for everyone 327 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: kind of hates it. The Wildlife Commission says they also 328 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: want to relieve some of the pressure on the state's 329 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: white tail deer herd should be heard, which has suffered 330 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: this year from an outbreak of EHD. Many non resident 331 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: tags are handed out in some of the same units 332 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: where the outbreak occurred. Montana still plans to issue about 333 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: twelve thousand non resident deer tags, which means the reduction 334 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: is less than ten percent of what was previously handed out. Still, 335 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: that's twenty five hundred fewer non resident deer hunters who 336 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: will be paying into the conservation system in Montana for deer. Obviously, 337 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of traffic here for elk upland, game 338 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: birds and migratory birds. The reduction in deer tags could 339 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: cause a one point seven million dollars shortfall. It's unclear 340 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: how Montana fish, wildlife and parks will make up for 341 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 1: that loss of revenue. Montana is going through some changes 342 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: we will continue to do so. We have got to 343 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: adjust for increased pressure, which is real and it exists. 344 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: There's a couple of counties that I won't name where 345 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: the data shows that two thirds of the deer taken 346 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: in those counties are from non resident hunters, which, as 347 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: advertised to resident hunters, is not the way it should be. 348 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: We like to think in terms of there's only ten 349 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: percent of tags allocated to non resident hunters, whereas the 350 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: system is set up, if all ten percent go to 351 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: one county, that outnumbers the residents, as in the data 352 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: here suggests by number of two to one, So lots 353 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: of work to do. It's all in that math's situation. 354 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: Moving on to the accident desk, A deer hunter is 355 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: dead in Pennsylvania after he was accidentally shot during a 356 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: deer drive. The Game Commission told local media that twenty 357 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: four hunters were participating in the drive. A group of 358 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: hunters were driving the deer towards the shooters when one 359 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: buck broke through the line of drivers. Two of the 360 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: shooters fired at the buck, but one of the drivers 361 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: was in the line of fire. The twenty six year 362 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 1: old hunter was shot in the hip, and the other 363 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 1: hunters tried to stop the bleeding while they called paramedics. 364 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: The problem was they were conducting the drive in a 365 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: remote locationation on a mountain while a winter storm was 366 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: rolling in. It took paramedics an hour to reach the man, 367 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: who was still alive and talking when they did, but 368 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: he'd already lost a lot of blood, and paramedics were 369 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: trying to keep themselves from getting hurt or killed as 370 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: they slipped and slid back down the mountain. They said 371 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 1: they did the best they could, but they weren't able 372 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: to save the man's life. There are still a lot 373 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: of questions about this one. Officials say they know which 374 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: of the two hunters hit the victim, but they haven't 375 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: said whether or not the person will face any charges. 376 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: It's also unclear whether the hunter was wearing any orange 377 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: or whether he was in front of or behind the deer. 378 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: In another tragic hunting accident, a sixteen year old Missouri 379 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: died last month after being electrocuted by a power line. 380 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: The teen was hunting with a friend along a howl 381 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: Oregon Electric co Op power line easement in the southwest 382 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: portion of the state. One of the lines was sagging 383 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: near the ground. Apparently he didn't realize it was still 384 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: hooked up and energized, he grabbed it. His hunting partner, 385 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: who was with him, was not able to find help 386 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: due to poor reception. First responders found the boy dead 387 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: when arrived at the scene. His name has not been released. 388 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: Remember this one gang Stop the Bleed really quick online 389 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: course tourniquets in the field. Hips are tough places to 390 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: put tournique but there is a lot of info in 391 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: a very short course that you can take online called 392 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: Stop the Bleed that may help in these situations. It 393 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: is a prerequisite for anybody you would either go spearfishing 394 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: or hunting with bows or rifles. Just do it. Moving 395 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: on to the mailbag listen not Minnesota duck hunters access 396 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: to a prime piece of waterfowl habitat is in jeopardy, 397 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: and your compatriots in the Minneapolis Saint Paul area need 398 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: your help. Listen to Noah Myers writes in to tell 399 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: me about a historic boat launch on the mississipp called 400 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Bud's Landing. Bud's Landing was built over ninety years ago, 401 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: specifically to give duck hunters a good way to access 402 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: Spring Lake, which is located just south of Saint Paul 403 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: along the Mississippi. It was purchased by de Coda County 404 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, and now they're working on a four 405 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: point six million dollar renovation project to attract more people 406 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: to the lake. That's all well and good, but there's 407 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: a catch. The County Commission voted last month to barre 408 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: duck boats from the launch. Once the renovation is completely, 409 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: it will only allow canoes, kayaks, and paddleboards. This is 410 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: a big blow to local duck hunters like Noah, who 411 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: has not mastered his paddleboard skills. He said in his 412 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: email quote. This spot is near and dear to me 413 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: because it is where I fell in love with duck 414 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: hunting and have been able to really connect with nature, 415 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: all while being just fifteen minutes from downtown Saint Paul. 416 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: It is one of the only places in the Twin 417 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Cities metro to hunt waterfowl, and it's being stripped for 418 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: no good reason. Noah says, there is another launch in 419 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: the area, but it's oriented into the wind. It's dangerous. 420 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: Two hunters drowned off the launch in the nineties. Banning 421 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: duck hunters from Buds landing will create more congestion at 422 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: that spot, potentially making it even more dangerous. If you 423 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: live in Dakota County, get on the horn with your 424 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: local county commissioner. Explain that you have no problem with 425 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: the renovation and I are happy to share the launch 426 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: with kayakers, but there's no reason to ban duck hunters. 427 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: I don't know many paddle boarders who want to go 428 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: out for a paddle and sub zero attempts, which is 429 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: when most duck hunters love to be out there. This 430 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: is a good opportunity to emphasize the name of the 431 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: landing bud be a bud buds, duck hunting buds, kayaking buds, 432 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: paddle boarding buds, multiple use. Get along gang. That's all 433 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: I got for you this week. Thank you so much 434 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: for listening. Remember to write in to as case Al 435 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: that's Askal at the mere dot com. Let me know 436 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: what's going on in your neck of the woods. Thank 437 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you so much. I'll talk to you next week.