1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: We welcome you into episode fourteen of the best podcast 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: available Training Camp. Addition, we wind down the off season 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: and training camp and we get one step closer to 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: September than a date in Baltimore with the Ravens of 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble and our George Clooney fill 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: in Nathan Ziagura, U Z appreciate a few minutes of 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: your time here as we breakdown what has been a 8 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: pretty crazy Cleveland Browns training camp. Gentlemen, my first thing 9 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: to both of you and Gribble will start with you 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: your first takeaway from what has been most unusual uh 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: two and a half weeks. Yeah, it seems like it's 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: kind of flown by, and it's it's weird because it 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: feels like the team has gotten in the practices that 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: they needed to get in before you start playing preseason games, 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: and that's that it feels like now you should start 16 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: playing like a few more preseason games and then get 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: to the season. So it has kind of flown by, 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's it maybe has dragged 19 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: a bit because you don't have those games to mix 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: into to the practices, and it's almost weird. That they 21 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: now have another week of practice to go before you 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: start really preparing for Baltimore. But you've got to make 23 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: the most of them because there's a lot of decisions 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: to make on this roster, going from eight to fifty three. Yeah, 25 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: no doubt for me. I mean, look, on the negative 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: side of things, you lose Grant Helpit and nobody wants 27 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: to see that, and that will probably be the biggest 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: single news item that comes out of the Brown's training 29 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: camp this year, is that Grants lost for the season. 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: But on the other side, what really struck me and 31 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it's probably part of it. We'll get to 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: who stood out and you know who really emerged. But 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: our stars look like stars. Modell Beckham Jr. Has looked spectacular, 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt spectacular, Hooper very much looks like 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: a two time pro bowler. And on the defensive side, 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett when he's been out there has been an 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: absolute force. Denzel Ward probably on the defensive highlight that 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: pick six in the goal line drill. So the Brown 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: stars and there are many of them, I think for 40 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: the first time in a long things saying there are 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: a lot of stars on this team. All really looked 42 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: like stars, and I think that's something that you're gonna 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: count on. I think early in this NFL season, stars 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: and talent are gonna make a bigger difference than perhaps 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: they have at any point because of just the limited 46 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,959 Speaker 1: time for everybody to gel and be you know a 47 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: mid season four. Yeah, I think that you hit the 48 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: nail on the head here because the teams that have 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: the vets. Maybe we we talked so much about the 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: system and well, other teams have an advantage because they 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: have they have the same system as you know they 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: did last year before all of this pandemic started. But 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: if you have the star power, you can overcome some 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: of that. Uh, that's a big deal. I think there's 55 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I think star power on 56 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball is important. But I'm even 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna focus maybe a little bit more on the offense 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: early in the season. Nobody's been tackling, and we're gonna 59 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: get the ball into the hands of Nick Chubb and 60 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, who if they were on separate teams, would 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: both be considered probably you know, top five, top six 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: fantasy backs. They're in the same backfield with us you're 63 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: gonna get the ball in the hands of Odell Beckham Jr. 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: Who clearly is healthy and is very elusive in the 65 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: open field. Jarvis knows what to do with the ball 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: after the cat show. I think for a team like us, 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,079 Speaker 1: you mentioned those stars, but I think, especially guys who 68 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: are carrying the football, some of the these guys are 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: tough to tackle under normal circumstances. I think it's gonna 70 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: be really hard. The bad news for the Browns is 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the team they line up against in week number one 72 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: has a ton of guys that are also going to 73 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: be very difficult to tackle in Lamar Jackson and mark 74 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: Ingram and Hollywood Brown and JK. Dobbins who they bring in. 75 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: So maybe in that matchup it's gonna be strength on strength, 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: But the majority of the time, we're gonna have better 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: people caring and touching the football than the teams we play, 78 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: especially earlier in the year. Once we get past that 79 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Ravens game, and I'll just jump in and I think 80 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: with the offense especially, it seems like the team turned 81 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: a corner after last Tuesday's practice, which was not good, 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: uh not not not not a not a good watch. 83 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: But then It's like they came back Thursday and just 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: kind of refocused and like honed in on what they're getting, 85 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: what they're gonna be good at, and what they're gonna 86 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: focus on early in the season. And I thought the 87 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: scrimmage on Sunday, while you didn't maybe move the ball 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: with like many big plays, I thought it was what 89 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 1: you wanted to see from this offense. And again we 90 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: didn't get the full dose of what we expect from 91 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: this offense. Says I just don't think we haven't seen 92 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: this team run the ball as much as they're going 93 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: to in the ranular season. I think, boy, I think you. 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I think you hit it right on the head. The 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: last four days of practice were by far, head and 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: shoulders better than anything we've seen for the two and 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: half weeks. So this team started to turn the corner. 98 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: It felt like, uh in those last four days. Yeah, 99 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And I think the word is rhythm, right. 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: I think we saw them start to get into a rhythm. 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: And even on in Sunday, those first two drives from 102 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,679 Speaker 1: case keene him it was good runs, it was quick hitting, passing, 103 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: and then play action off of that, and then when 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Baker really got into his rhythm. It was a couple 105 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: of Nick Chubb runs that got them going, and that 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: opened everything up, the play action, the passing, the screen game, 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: that nice screen to cream hunt where he saw his 108 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: patients to set up the block. So yeah, I would 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: say the arrow for the offense certainly like this from 110 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: those days. And I think it's a real testament not 111 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: only to the guys on that room, but to Kevin 112 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: Stefanski as well, because that Thursday was not a normal practice, 113 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: and then Friday you had to go inside and so 114 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: nothing really that whole week. And it's crazy to sit 115 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: here and say, you know, we're just over a week removed. 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: But from all of you know, the false positives, to 117 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Grant Helpa being lost for the season, to that Tuesday, 118 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: which was not a good practice even though your top 119 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: five dvs weren't participating in team drills. So Thursday's you know, 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: abbreviated practice for the social justice you know, empowerment and 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: talks and discussions, and then you had Friday in the bubble. 122 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: You didn't have anything normal really over the course of 123 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: that entire week. And yet this team on Sunday, I 124 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: thought put together a very very good product, and you 125 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: felt like it is a ramping up and getting ready 126 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: for two weeks for the regular season, start Gribbs. On 127 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the football, um a lot of injuries, 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: no doubt, but those that second line, in that third 129 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: line of defense really played pretty well here over the 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: last week. Yeah. I thought the secondary especially has been 131 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: pretty good. And I think that they've they've dug deep 132 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: and they've been faced with some uh tough circumstances. But 133 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: I think you're I think especially this team is solid 134 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: at the backup outside cornerback positions. I think that there's 135 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: clearly you have Terrence Mitchell, you have Donovan Olumbo, Robert Jackson. 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: I think all those guys are certainly capable. The question 137 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: mark is going to be what happens in the slot. 138 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: And I think that that you were maybe gonna have 139 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: Grant Delta as a big nickel, You're gonna have Kevin 140 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: Johnson out there in the slot, and now you just 141 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: have some questions on on what is going to happen 142 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: there if when Kevin Johnson can get back, who steps up. 143 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: That that's gonna be the major thing they have to address, 144 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: and it really for who's available getting those guy is 145 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: back and ready and seeing what you really have on 146 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: defense going into week one. I think we've gotten good 147 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: news about Mac Wilson, but you're probably not expecting him 148 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: back for Week one. Same with Kevin Johnson and Greedy 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: Williams day to day, Myles Garretts day today. I just 150 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: want to see all those guys on the field just 151 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: to get a full picture of what you really do 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: have against the Ravens. I think you're right about that, 153 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: especially in the slot, because Kevin Johnson was playing great, 154 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: and then m J. Steward came in the former second 155 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: round pick of the Bucks and he played great, and 156 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: you haven't seen either of them. And now Taddy or Thomas, 157 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: who really has made his name in the NFL and 158 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: it earned his money in the NFL's a special teams 159 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Ace has been playing in there, and you mentioned on 160 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: the outside money Mitch Alumba Denzel Ward on Brown's Lives 161 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 1: singled out how good A. J. Green has been. Robert 162 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Jackson too many. You almost have too many guys out there, 163 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: and once you get Johnson and Stewart Beck you feel 164 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: very good about your depth in that interior portion, but 165 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: right now with them both out, it is a big 166 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: question mark, and it's a question mark that you know, 167 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: hopefully Johnson seems to be moving around. You see him 168 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: out there getting his mental reps, and he certainly from 169 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: AFAR looks good and it's great to see him back 170 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: out there, but you don't know with an internal injury 171 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: if he'll be ready for a week. One Stewart was 172 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: a hamstring, so I'm I'm hopeful they're just airing on 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,679 Speaker 1: the side of caution. You'll see him get back to work, 174 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, leading into that week. But I do agree 175 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: that that was a big question because it was clear 176 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Grant heelf it was gonna be a huge part of 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: what we did on defense, and I think that's why 178 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: so many people thought Logan Ryan might be a very 179 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: natural fit slot corner, can play some safety, can play 180 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: some big safety near the line of scrimmage as well. 181 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Obviously he signed with the Giants, so that's off the table. 182 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: But you're thin there, You're thin on the interior. Your 183 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: thin it's safety. You've got Sindejo, Joseph and red Wine, 184 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: and then you've got got three undrafted free agents, one 185 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: from last year and Hassle and two from this year 186 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: and Bent and Moffatt. So I think there are some 187 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: concerns everywhere except outside cornerback, where you almost have too 188 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: many guys, and you wonder if maybe do you try 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: to cross train one of those guys and give him 190 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: some work at safety to to keep him around and 191 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: make the numbers work. Gribbs, what do you think about that? 192 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: And is is the safety of the bigger concern or linebacker? 193 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I think long terms, safety is probably your 194 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: concern bigger one because you are getting mac Wilson back. 195 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: You you you felt good about b J. Goodson, you 196 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: felt good about Taki Taki. I think right now it's safety. 197 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: You are just thin, and you've got a couple of 198 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: guys in Sindejo and Joseph who who are healthy now. 199 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: But it's you want to be able to get them 200 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: keep them on the field for all sixteen games. And 201 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: it's a tough position to do that at And I 202 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: think that it's gonna be one of those things we're 203 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: wondering if you if you look to address it after 204 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: roster cuts. But again, this is the new NFL. It's 205 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: not that simple to just go get someone now on 206 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: waivers and and expect them to have an impact. I mean, 207 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: they've got a clear testing protocols. You're going on these 208 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: players site unseen in terms of what they did with 209 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: their team in training camp, So expecting an impact player. 210 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: Even in the old NFL, it took until about week three. 211 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: Remember when you claim Ranbody Calhoun, it took like three 212 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: weeks to get him on the field and you have 213 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: them get a pick six. So it took a while 214 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: back then, and now it's gonna take even longer. So 215 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: you've got a role with what you got for now, 216 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: and I think linebacker long term, you're in a better spot. 217 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: And I think more than ever, you're gonna have to 218 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: rely on your coaches, relationships in your front offices, relationships 219 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: around the NFL because you don't have preseason tape to 220 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: do your own evaluations of what players who might get 221 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: released around the league are doing. That doesn't exist anymore, 222 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: and so I think that's gonna create a very interesting 223 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: fifty three man cut down period and maybe less activity 224 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: than normal, maybe more activity than normal. I don't know, 225 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: but I think you're gonna have to have a pretty good, 226 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, understanding. For example, Joe Would's imagine if somebody 227 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: would gets cut from San Francisco that he's worked with, 228 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: or he knows that's very different, or somebody out of 229 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: Minnesota that Howard would know is very different than in 230 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: the past where you would just go off of somebody 231 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: had great preseason tape that really caught your eye, because 232 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: there's none of it, and there's no practice tape either, 233 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: all right, because so could could the big cutdown, like 234 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: we know the big cutdown day is gonna be Saturday, 235 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: but could more of the action that normally happens on 236 00:10:55,600 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: Sunday actually happened the Tuesday after we one? Could we 237 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: see that based on you'll have footage of something. Those 238 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: people would have to be released after a week one 239 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: would be the only way you could get them. So 240 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get you know, the guys that are 241 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: on the practice these expanded practice squads of six team guys, 242 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, grips. Do you think I think it's 243 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna there will be there will be less roster turn 244 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: in general in the league as a result of not 245 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: having the tape. Or if people who get cut but 246 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: you love their college tape, you don't know why they 247 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: got cut. You know, you'll talk and do your due 248 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: diligence with your back channels. But you're saying, I'm willing 249 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: to give a shot to this guy because I liked 250 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: his tape. Yeah, it's it's gonna be tricky because then 251 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: you throw in the other dynamic where teams basically get 252 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: four keepers on their practice squad and you don't want 253 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: to like miss your chance on claiming a guy that 254 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: you might like, and then all of a sudden, a 255 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: team keeps him on the practice squad and then you 256 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: have no access to them, you can't even sign them 257 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: to your active roster. I mean, it's it's it's a 258 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: lot of things to weigh, and then to even claim 259 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: a guy, you're giving up on a player you've seen 260 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: for a month who was at least is good enough 261 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: to be on your initial fifty three. And I mean 262 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: and and then their teams are gonna be I think 263 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: the practice squad it comes into even more focus this 264 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: year in terms of importance knowing the system, guys being 265 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: ready at a moment's notice to be on the active roster. 266 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: I think. So I agree with you. I think it's 267 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be less churning. It's just a ton of variables 268 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: to weigh and quarterbacks are gonna be fascinating because to 269 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: your point, you could, if you can get them through 270 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: the initial cut, a third quarterback you can put as 271 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: a keeper on your practice squad, have them available anytime 272 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: you would need them, but open up a fifty three 273 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: man spot for somebody else. And I think that's gonna 274 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: be a fascinating thing to watch this year because it's 275 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: you've never been able to protect people on your practice 276 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: quad before. This is a whole new element to it. 277 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a fantasy football bench where like, 278 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: those are your guys even though you're not playing them, 279 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: which I think is is kind of a unique concept 280 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: of the NFL. I kind of like it for some 281 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: developmental guys. I think that's pretty cool, uh that they 282 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. Yeah. I think a lot a lot 283 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: to watch here over the next ten days or so 284 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: as we get ready for kickoff of the season. Time 285 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: now for our interview of the Day and Ribbles sitting 286 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: down with Hollywood Richard Higgins. Have a watch and have 287 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: a listen, Joined by Richard Higgins and Richard It's hard 288 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to believe this is your fifth training camp with the Browns. 289 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what, what's it been like, and how has 290 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: this one been different? You know what? UM? And I'm 291 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: blessed to be here UM throughout everything, UM, just going 292 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: through the long journey, you know, UM, I call it 293 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: a long journey just because I've been here through through 294 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: everything and I feel like I'm like one of the 295 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: only three you feel me, I know, Joe Atonio, it's 296 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: been here, UM, some of the guys that has been 297 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: here with me, But that long journey of going on 298 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: sixteen and man, I don't even want to talk about it. 299 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: It's just been like a long ride. And to still 300 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 1: be here is it's a blessing, you know. UM, trying 301 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: to trying to see change, and I believe we got 302 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: everything we ever wanted to see change. And what do 303 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: you like about this year's group and what you've gotten 304 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: to know about some of your new teammates this year? 305 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I really feel like we're home down on winning, UM 306 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, and that I mean that's the 307 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: only part that we want. You feel me. UM. In 308 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: the details, you know, like coaches always telling us details, details, 309 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: even if it's a little split, even if it's you know, 310 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: UM being in the right position where the quarterbacks no 311 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: no where you're gonna be you know. UM, it should translate, 312 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: everything should translate over to to the game. And I 313 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: feel like it's just been different this season. I meant, well, 314 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: this offseason, UM, just just going into it with a 315 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: different mindset. No, and that we can't We're not gonna 316 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: beat ourselves. It's I meant the other team is not 317 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna beat us. We're gonna beat ourselves. You know. So, UM, 318 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: it's just it's just been different. I can't wait to 319 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: w to um Rags game. Kind of walk me through 320 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: your off season and just kind of the timeline of 321 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: you signing with the team and then what you were 322 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: able to do to kind of get yourself ready to 323 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: go for kind of this unique training camp it you 324 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: know what it was like, UM, waiting to sign, waiting 325 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: to sign, Am I going back? Am I going back? 326 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: Finally Andrew Barry hit me up. You know what, We're 327 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna sign you back? Where do I sign up? You know? UM, 328 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: this is where I want to be. This is UM 329 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: what I want to see change. I started here, when 330 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: I finished here. You know, it is a type of 331 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: mindset that I have. So, UM, I'm glad to be 332 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: here with my brothers. UM I wouldn't want to be 333 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: no nowhere else, So here I am. And then for 334 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: you personally, how much how much better of a receiver 335 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: do you feel like you are? Then? Maybe when you 336 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: started here and maybe even looking back at last year, 337 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: how much better you feel like you are? Yeah? I 338 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: feel like over the years, um, different coaches that I've had, 339 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: I've I've put that into my my game plan. Um, 340 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: as far as coming off the ball blocking, knowing that 341 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: I can use my speech to advantage you know, um 342 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: me not being the fastest, but selling that I'm going fast, 343 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, like different things alsand has taught me different things, 344 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Coach Henry taught me, you know, Um, just putting that 345 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: into my game. Man, I just I just can't wait 346 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: until I'm able to showcase it, uh into a national spot. 347 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: Like is this one of the more competitive receiver rooms 348 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: you've been in? It seems like a lot of guys 349 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: getting involved and going for those spots in that in 350 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: that rotation. Yeah, we're definitely, we're definitely competitive. Coach of 351 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: shaves the hell of a job of moving us around, 352 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: making sure we don't know just one position, making sure 353 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: we know all positions. Um, him giving us more insight 354 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: on um what it takes to win the championship. You know, 355 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: he's been there, he's done at the confetti. I'm I'm 356 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm waiting on it, man. I can't wait for it 357 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: to come to to Cleveland. And we got all the pieces, 358 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: like I've been saying, So it's just amount of time. 359 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: You're a guy that likes to to feed off the 360 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: crowd and the energy of the fans. I mean, how 361 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: how do you go into this season knowing that you 362 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: know it could be either limited fans or or no 363 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: fans in some road trips, including your first game in Baltimore? 364 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: How how do you feed off that energy and create 365 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: that that energy on the field. You know, it's got 366 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: to come from within. Um. Also, it's gotta be a teammates, 367 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: your teammates showing you love, knowing that UM, you know 368 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: that they're right there with you no matter UM when 369 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: lose a draw. You know, UM, I just feel like 370 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: it's got to come from within, knowing that you're you 371 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: can be dominant at any time, knowing that you just 372 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: made the first down, Like get excited. You know, even 373 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: though it don't have to be somebody else, It's got 374 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: to come from with them, So we'll see how it 375 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: plays out. And now you're three with Baker. You guys 376 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: seem to have a lot of chemistry out there. What 377 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: how much is it at even a higher level right 378 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: now than it's ever been. It's hi, it's high, It's 379 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: definitely high. Um. We're still doing a lot of installs, um, 380 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: game playing wise, you know. So, UM we're still trying 381 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: to get some of the some of the rushed off 382 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: for right now. But other than that, UM, it's still there. 383 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: You know. Banker's my boy. Um, he wants he wants 384 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: a big year out of everybody. Um, he wanted himself. 385 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: You know, we we all come on him, so um 386 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: he gotta be able to come on us as well. 387 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: So we can't wait and then this is the last one. 388 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: How how humble do you think a lot of the 389 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: players are from last season? And how is that carried 390 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: over into and how you guys are approaching this season? Yeah? 391 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: I know for me, Um it was it was humbling 392 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: just because we we felt like we had the pieces, 393 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, Um, we felt like we had everything, but 394 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: we just never put it together. Um. Kostefanski and his 395 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: his whole his whole group has did a hell of 396 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: a job this far. Um making sure we honed down 397 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: and just be together, you know, be together as a team, 398 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: and um just playing together and and doing everything right, 399 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: trying to do everything right. And I felt like it's 400 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: a we we we got a lot on our shoulder, 401 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: we got a lot to prove, and we're gonna prove it. 402 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: We're sure. Thank you for joining us. That I really appreciate. 403 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: And good luck at today's practice. Thank you, Thank you 404 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: to Hollywood for his time and Gribbs. Big takeaways from Hollywood, 405 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: who's in a stiff competition, a lot of competitions still 406 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: in that wide receiver room with a few days left. 407 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: My takeaway was, I thought Hollywood seemed as in a 408 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: good as good of a place as I've ever seen 409 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: him and talked to him in the last five years. 410 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: And it's crazy when we brought up at the being 411 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: of the interview, he's one of the most experienced players 412 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: on the on the entire team, one of the longest 413 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: tenured Browns, and one of the is he the only 414 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: remaining member from the two thousand and six team drift class. 415 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he is. And and so it's it's 416 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: just it's wild that all the things he's been through, 417 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: and I think he wears that chip on his shoulder 418 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: like he he was part of O and sixteen and 419 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: he was part of one of one in fifteen, and 420 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 1: I think there's a special him and Betonio and those 421 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: guys they had to they had to go through it. 422 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: So I think he seems to like where things are at. 423 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: He's happier right now. I think he's he should be happy, 424 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you know, I think we've 425 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 1: seen as part of that ramp up you were mentioned 426 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: to give. I think a lot of that had to 427 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: do with, in fact, with Baker Mayfield in Hollywoods chemistry. 428 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: It was that last play of that bad Tuesday practice. 429 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: It was Baker to Hollywood was the last play was 430 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown from twenty five yards out. They have that 431 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: going on Thursday when they returned, and you've just seen 432 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: that chemistry grow. And I think, Hollywood, Higgins, when you 433 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: talk about the Browns and three receiver sets, I don't 434 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: think it's a lock that he's that third receiver because 435 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: I think this offense typically wants that third guy to 436 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: be someone who can take the top off the defense, 437 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: which certainly would fit a Cadaryl Hodge, Donovan Peoples, Jones, 438 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: and Damien Ratley a little bit better or even down 439 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: to Taywan Taylor, Joe Joe Natson. But I do think 440 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: if you're in a third and short or a third 441 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: and you know six and you need to get that 442 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: guy you can get to the six get open, it's Higgins. 443 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: But also if there were to be an injury to 444 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: either of your top two guys, he's the guy that 445 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you would step in in your two receiver sets, and 446 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: so I think he retains incredible value. Even though this 447 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: isn't a team that's gonna do a lot of eleven personnel, 448 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: Hollywood's very very valuable behind you know, O'Dell and Jarvis 449 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: in the sense that he I think would be immediately, 450 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: without question, the next guy in if one of those 451 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: two were to miss any time. Gribble and I were 452 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: talking about a grip last week. We talked about it. 453 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, the number three and number four wide receivers 454 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 1: are almost as portant as the number one and number 455 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: two because receivers get dinged up and and Gribbs you 456 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: mentioned it. I mean it's that is a high profile 457 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: position to be in going into the season. Yeah, I mean, 458 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: I just think that Hollywood though, it just has that 459 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: relationship with I just think it's so clear, uh that 460 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: that there's just something there with when Baker's in trouble, 461 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: he always just finds a way. Not the most gifted receiver, 462 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: uh in terms of talent, speed, everything like that, but 463 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: he just always finds a way. That's the way he's 464 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: been since college at Colorado State. When he's piling up 465 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: each numbers alright, time not to have a little fun. Uh. 466 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: Couple questions as we put training camp to bed and 467 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: the ramp up period to bed and we play some 468 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: real football coming up in a couple of weeks. Harrison 469 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: Bryant voted by the media as the most outstanding rookie 470 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: and in this training camp preseason period, who would be 471 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: your second rookie? Who would be who would be number two? 472 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: Gribble will start with you. I'll go with Nick Harris. 473 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: He's taking made every snap at with the first team 474 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: offense and you haven't really had to notice him very much. 475 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: A big responsibility for the fifth round pick, and you 476 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: know he's just he's It's hard for an offensive lineman 477 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: to impress you. But the fact that he's not standing 478 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: out is a good thing, and I think that he's 479 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: been had a lot on his plate and he's hand 480 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: a little well. I think that would have been my 481 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: answer as well, but for the interests of this discussion, 482 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: I'll go a different direction. I think Donovan People's Jones 483 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: has certainly flashed. And if you had said, you know, 484 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: coming to campus, Oh yeah, that's our that's our second 485 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: round pick. Over there Donovan People's Jones, people say, yeah, 486 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I see that, I get it. Look at that guy. 487 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: He looks great and he's made some big plays. But 488 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: I would actually say next in the order will be 489 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott because I think he's got more opportunities with 490 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: the ones and he's just consistently stood out. When you 491 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: watch him, he just gets penetration, whether it's as a 492 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: pass rusher or as a disruptor in the run game. 493 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Elliott has looked very impressive, and he's a guy 494 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: that coming into the season you probably didn't think would 495 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: be counted on to do much as a rookie. You had, 496 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: you know, obviously shell Than and Larry. You brought in 497 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Billings Well Buildings opts out and I think that 498 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: created some opportunities and valuable reps for Elliott and as 499 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: well as Ellieanko, who has played well the veteran but 500 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: from a rookie standpoint, for Elliott and I think he's 501 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: made the most of those. And it's pretty obvious whenever 502 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: Chris Kiffin gets a chance to talk with us or 503 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: with the media, that he is a big Jordan Elliott 504 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: fan and thinks this kid can be a real force 505 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: in the middle, and maybe he ends up being a 506 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: very productive subpackage pass rusher even in his rookie year. 507 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: All Right, Gribbs, Should I be more concerned about j C. 508 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: Trader's injury at this point now less than two weeks 509 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: or Miles Garrett's wrist injury. I mean, if I'm picking 510 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: between the two, I'm not really concerned about either of them. 511 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: But I guess turned with with j C at this 512 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: point just because he hasn't practiced, and you you wonder, 513 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: just for him from a physical standpoint, you want j 514 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: C if if he thinks if if you're in a 515 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: position where you can probably play in week one, you 516 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: want him to feel physically good and fit, stically ready. 517 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: I think that that would be the only concern with 518 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: j C. I think at this point there's still some 519 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: time to get him back out there. This is a 520 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: guy who's been able to get on the field and 521 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: play at a high level while not practicing a lot 522 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 1: the last couple of years because the injuries he's had 523 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: to deal with. So I if there's one person I'm 524 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: competent they can get back without practicing much, it's j C. 525 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: And with Miles, this thing doesn't seem major at all. 526 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it. You know, as I said 527 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: on my secondary job earlier, Brown's Daily that I've seen 528 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: j C. Tred Er take on and come to the 529 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: sideline and be ten feet away from him and have 530 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind he was not going back 531 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: into the game. And he went back into the game 532 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: anyway and played at a high level. So I will 533 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: never bet against JC Tredder being on the field. I 534 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: think what Nick Harris has done is create a situation 535 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: where you can maybe be j C's best advocate for 536 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: himself and say we do not need you to potentially 537 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: endanger yourself for the future going out there too early 538 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: or toughing it out, because Harris has done that good 539 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: of a job, so I'm not concerned about either on 540 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: the j C side of it, A because I know 541 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: how good he is and I know he'll be back 542 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: there as soon as he can be. Also because of 543 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Nick Harris and what he's shown you and then for 544 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Miles and now I'm not not worried about that one 545 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: at all. Alright, So our number one pick is Jeddrick Wills, 546 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: and we have not talked about Jedderick in terms of 547 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: talking about rookies. He's looked good, he's had his rookie moments, 548 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,959 Speaker 1: he's had moments where he's flashed. This continues to be 549 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: a learning process. Ziggura and I think he's gonna have 550 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: some ups and he's gonna have some downs well into 551 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: this regular season, no doubt. And I think, you know, 552 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: talking to Joe Thomas about it, Joe said, look, I 553 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: had a full rookie minicamp in a full O T 554 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: A S. And I went through a full training camp 555 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: where you practice a lot more back then than they 556 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: do now. I went through four preseason games and I 557 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: still felt like my head was spinning, probably until about 558 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: week four or five, and then by about weeks six seven, 559 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,719 Speaker 1: I finally felt like I kind of knew what I 560 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: was doing and could be a good player. Again, well, 561 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: Jendrick Wills hasn't had any of that, so what he's 562 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: facing is incredibly difficult. I think that he has shown 563 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: his ability and I think watched there are a couple 564 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: of pass blocks sets that he had at First Energy 565 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: Stadium where he was great. He also had one where 566 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Porter Gustin got around on him, but the play where 567 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: they ran that toss out to the left and you 568 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 1: just saw his athleticism as a big guy getting out 569 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: there and lead block, and he said, man, you know 570 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: that he can be special. I think they'll have to 571 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: give him some help, you know, early in the year, 572 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: but also once I think he gets the playing actual 573 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: football again, you're gonna stop thinking as much as you 574 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: are kind of in these training camp situations. I think 575 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna You're gonna go out there and try to 576 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: handle the guy in front of you, and look, it's 577 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna be tough. You talk week one, Judean, week two, 578 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: Dunlap week three, Chase Young week four, Lawrence, I mean, 579 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 1: these are it is a It is a tough opening 580 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: quarter of the season for him, and it's not gonna 581 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: get much easier. We have a tough schedule for pass rushers, 582 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: but I think that Jedderick Will's the talent is there. 583 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: They'll give him help. Having the Tonio next and we'll 584 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: be will certainly help him. And honestly, I think we're 585 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: gonna run the ball a lot in the early going, 586 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: which we know he can run block, there's no doubt 587 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, And I've seen enough from him to 588 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: know that. I think he's gonna have his ups and downs. 589 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna have his rookie moments, but I don't think 590 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: he's going to be a liability, which is like why 591 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: you need to be to survive at left tackle. I 592 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: think that's why I think he's gonna be fine. He's 593 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna get better as it goes. And you know you 594 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: mentioned about Joe Thomas's head spinning up until week seven, 595 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: Jodan wasn't switching positions either, right, Like, that's another layer 596 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: to this where this is a pretty big change for him. 597 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: So you're just gonna have to the Browns Stefansky them. 598 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna they know that they're gonna have to Grin 599 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: and Barrett through some moments here, but they're committed to him, 600 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: and I think that's good to hear. Gribble, What or 601 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: who has surprised you the most over these two and 602 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: a half weeks. I mean this is like a cop 603 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: out answer, but I mean Harrison Bryant has been outstanding. 604 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, like that's the that's and that's a really 605 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: hard position to do it at. I mean, we we've 606 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,959 Speaker 1: seen rookie tight ends come in here and be totally lost, 607 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: I mean in the first year, and that's what's expected 608 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: of them. I mean, it's it's one of the hardest 609 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: positions to play as a rookie, and you don't see 610 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: these breakout rookie seasons from tight ends. It's just so 611 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: hard to do. I mean, look at Jay Hockenson at 612 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: the Lions last year. He had that huge game Week one, 613 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: and they just vanished for the rest of the year. Means, 614 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,959 Speaker 1: it's hard to do. And I think just Harrison Bryant 615 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: just looks like an NFL tight end right away, and 616 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: I just didn't expect that. I mean, a fourth round pick. 617 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: UH just not a huge amount of expectations to UH 618 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: veterans in front of him. But he somehow stood out 619 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: and made me convinced he's gonna have a significant role 620 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: in this team this year in that tight end room. 621 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: Just in general, I think it's been it's been great. 622 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper has probably been from a veteran standpoint as 623 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: good as anybody out there. Bryant from a young player's 624 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: standpoint in terms of what your expectations were going into camp, 625 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: nobody exceeded him more than Brian, and Farrell has been good, 626 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: and Carlson's was good, and then everybody had written off 627 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: the chief. If they tuned in and and watched on Sunday, 628 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: we're like, oh, yeah, that's why he's really good. Running 629 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: down the scene for sixty and nice catch, stiff arm 630 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: to pick up fifteen, and you're like, yeah, this guy's 631 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: a former first round pick two with an unbelievable set 632 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: of skills that can't be replicated by many tight ends 633 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: in the league period, And so that room spectacular. For 634 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: your question though, about who's surprised sis me the most. 635 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see any Taki Taki, because I really 636 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: thought coming into it, you know, last year he missed 637 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: a lot of time in camp. We know how physical 638 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: he is. I thought he would be kind of that 639 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: Sam linebacker when we were in our base look kind 640 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: of near the line of scrimmage, playing aggressively, but then 641 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: when Mac went down, he really got thrust into that 642 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: will roll off the ball in space in coverage, and 643 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know how that would look. He's put in 644 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: so much work this offseason. I think he's the most 645 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: improved player on our roster from a year ago to 646 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: where he is today because he looks so comfortable covering 647 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt on angle routes, something that a year ago 648 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: would have been an absolute layoup for Kareem Hunt in 649 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: the offense, and this year he's right there, multiple pass 650 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: breakups and really just has kind of been thrust into 651 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: a role much like many of our dbs. And we 652 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: talked about those corners earlier who have really stepped up 653 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: in surprise. But I think Taki is just his improvement 654 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: from year one to year two, and his hard work, 655 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: his dedication to make it happen has been awesome to 656 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: see because he's any such a great guy. I mean, 657 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: you have you want to root for him, and so 658 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: I think it's been great to see him do that. 659 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: All Right, the girl will flip it to you to 660 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: start off here, what concerns you the most going into 661 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: this season or not. All right, maybe not what concerns you, 662 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: but what does this team need to work on the 663 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: most here in the next couple of weeks before we 664 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore. I think from a concern standpoint, it's 665 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: just the injuries on the back end of the defense, 666 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: and I know that we have a lot of you know, confidence, 667 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,959 Speaker 1: certainly the depth at the outside corner position. If Greedy's 668 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: out in money, Mitch has to start money. Mitch is 669 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: a starting cornerback in the NFL. That's and you feel 670 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: pretty good about that tandem. So that's not concerned to 671 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: me right now. Johnson, m J. Stewart and a slot 672 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: losing Delpit, Uh, that's definitely that's been a concern. And honestly, 673 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: I really think our offense is trending the right way, 674 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: and I think when we unleash it in the form 675 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: that it's going to be utilized in the season, I 676 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: think our offense is gonna be really, really good. I 677 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: think people who are thinking we're gonna throw at five 678 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: Hudred six hundred times this year are probably in for 679 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: a little disappointment. But I do think we are gonna 680 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: be very effective, very efficient and explosive on offense. Yeah, 681 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: I would just say my concern is the defense as 682 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: a whole. I just wonder about the just you've had 683 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: so many injuries and moving a lot of guys around. 684 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: I think the defensive line is just gonna have to 685 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: really carry you through the through the first part of 686 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: the season. And I just think that that Week one 687 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: matchup is just not the not the best Week one 688 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: matchup for a defense that has a lot of different 689 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: new pieces coming together. I just think it's gonna be 690 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: a unit that, you know, even if it was at 691 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: full strength, was going to be kind of finding its 692 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: way early in the season, just because you have so 693 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: many new players and in key spots. I just I 694 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: just think it's gonna take some time for that group 695 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: of gel And I just the Week one matchup is 696 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: just so it's just so tough. I mean, it's just 697 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: it's it was hard for everyone in the NFL this year, 698 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and it's just it's not the best matchup Week one. 699 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the biggest question, Yeah, the big questions you 700 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: have linebacker and safety, and no team in maybe NFL 701 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: history test your linebackers and safeties like the Ravens. Yeah. 702 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: I just hope that this week one, you're gonna want 703 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: to try to outscore Baltimore. I think that and control 704 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: the clock with the running game. We shall see final 705 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: one gribble m v P of training camp. No pressure, 706 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: that's a that's a tough one. I mean, I know, 707 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: I know Nathan's gonna pick, so I'm not gonna pick 708 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: this guy. Uh So I am going to go with man. 709 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: I'll go with Odell Beckham on this one. I think 710 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: he was the most outstanding player. I don't know, but 711 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: it's always tough that he has just been the best 712 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: player on the field. I think that that's that that 713 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: is he's the most talented player and he's just you 714 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: can his presence has been there in a way it 715 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: just was not last year, and because I think he 716 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: was not fully healthy. I just think he's locked in, 717 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: engaged and is clearly an elite receiver that is going 718 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: to help this team win games this year. Yeah. I mean, Odell, 719 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: he's a complete difference maker on the field, and I 720 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: think his participation in team drills mirrors Baker's success in 721 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: team drills very close. Lee and especially when he has 722 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: Odell Jarvis and the person that I'm gonna talk about 723 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,959 Speaker 1: which is Austin Hooper. I think that that has been 724 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: when the offense has been at its best. And I 725 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 1: think you could certainly make the case for Chub and 726 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Hunt because I think they're gonna be a huge part 727 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: of what we do and they both look spectacular. I 728 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: mean Cream Hunt much like O'Dell is night and Day 729 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: from a year ago. I think so is Cream Hunt 730 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: full of actual offseason and not any dealing with the 731 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: injuries he was last year either, He's looked great, But 732 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper I think has been the game changer. Baker 733 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: Mayfield at Oklahoma had two guys who were drafted in 734 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: the first round as his wide receivers, and his leading 735 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: cat target was his tight end. He likes tight ends. 736 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: The middle of the field disappeared from this offense a 737 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: year ago. Well it is back, and it's clear the 738 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: work they put it in the off season down in 739 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: Austin with Baker Mayfield, Noson Hooper is paid off. He 740 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: was everywhere, He catches everything. He just looks like he's 741 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 1: on his on his way to his third straight Pro Bowl, 742 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: and I think people undersold the importance of what he 743 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: was doing. I think even undersold maybe what his role 744 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: was going to be in this offense, because you looked 745 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: at what the numbers that were put up in Minnesota. 746 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: But Kyle Rudolf is a very good player, but in 747 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: the league for a long time. He's not Austin Hooper. 748 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Austin Hooper looks like a legitimate difference maker 749 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: for this team at tight end, and I think it's 750 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a factor. And I think he was. He 751 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: was great. He and Odell and Nick chob and Kareem Hunt, 752 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: to me, were four players on the offensive site certainly 753 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: head and shoulders above everybody else. And that's not knock 754 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: on Jarvis. Whenever he was out there was excellent. But 755 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Jarvis is kind of on that every other day program 756 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: during this training camp period, so just a smaller body 757 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: of work for him. All right, guys, onward to Baltimore. 758 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: We go uh in terms of the best podcast available, 759 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: We'll be back with you Friday after Friday nights practice 760 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: at First Energy Stadium, and then we will join you 761 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: again on Saturday afternoon when the cuts are officially released 762 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: by the club. I want to thank Andrew Gribble, want 763 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: to thank Nathan's a girl. Make sure you log on 764 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: to Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you get your podcasts, 765 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: Like and subscribe today to the best podcast available. Make 766 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: sure you check us out on YouTube as well. 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