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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live presented by Light to Health.

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Speaker 1: There we be on a Thursday. Yes, that's right. We're

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Speaker 1: still in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 1: Tasker with you and another jam packed show coming your way.

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Speaker 1: We're so busy, as Steve likes to say, we are

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Speaker 1: neck deep in guests and we're gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: fun today too, because we had that comedian Joey Mullinaro, who, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: mel Kiper I've ever heard. Yes, even I love Frank Caliendo,

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Speaker 1: I think this guy's got him beat on mel Kiper.

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Speaker 1: He's that good. So we look forward to uh catching

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Speaker 1: up with Joey Mullinaro, who's a local indie guy making

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Speaker 1: the rounds here and he's he's pretty dang funny. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: will be hearing from Mark Ross, from former front office

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Speaker 1: all these teams now, Steve handling the Jalen Carter situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we'll see, but it does make just I

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Speaker 1: whole new set of due diligence. Now what So now

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Speaker 1: do you have to justify the pick to your ownership

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Speaker 1: Get Mark Ross's take on that, it's yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: people that will be bringing on the show today, we'll

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Speaker 1: have a return engagement with one Chris Trupasso from CBS

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Speaker 1: Sports Draft analyst. Earlier in the week, he helped us

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Speaker 1: with the wide receiver class. Today he's gonna be helping

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Speaker 1: us with interior offensive lineman. So that's a conversation to

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Speaker 1: look forward to about an hour and a half from now.

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Speaker 1: And you're good friend, Frank Reich. We caught up with

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Speaker 1: him late yesterday afternoon after we were off the air,

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Speaker 1: but we recorded that interview for you guys to enjoy today.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in about ten to twelve minutes

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Speaker 1: time Player releases Steve are happening as teams try to

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers are expected to release tight end Cameron Bright in

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Speaker 1: the coming days. This according to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, Braid

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Speaker 1: a cap hit of around five million. But they're trying

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Speaker 1: just another example Steve as to how the middle market

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Speaker 1: this every day. You know, at ground zero, I'm just

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Speaker 1: always curious what is the bird's eye view of the

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Speaker 1: Bills as an organization right now and where they are.

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Speaker 1: I figure that's a safe question to ask you since

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Speaker 1: you're not playing the Bills next fall Well. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, obviously Sean McDermott has done an unbelievable job.

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Speaker 1: Mister Pagola, you know, has been a great owner up

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Speaker 1: there and really brought a lot to the city. But

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Speaker 1: then at all at the end of the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's that team, it's that roster, and it's most importantly

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Speaker 1: that quarterback, you know, Josh Allen. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 1: a unique player, a unique leader, you know. So it's

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Speaker 1: pretty exciting as a former Buffalo Bill who does especially

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Speaker 1: now that I'm in the NFC, now I can root

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Speaker 1: even harder for the Bills. But yeah, I'm excited about

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Speaker 1: what's going on up there. So as you start to

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Speaker 1: take the reins of a caroline of Panthers, certainly you've

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Speaker 1: got a different agenda because you're you know, you're two

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Speaker 1: months into the job or whatever it is, a few

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Speaker 1: weeks into the job, and you've got to get ready

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Speaker 1: for a season, an offseason and draft. Where do you

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Speaker 1: start with that priority list? Is it getting acclimated to

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Speaker 1: the building and getting your people into place and getting

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Speaker 1: the right people rather than you know, trying to find

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Speaker 1: more people to hide you know, the players, all that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Well, and what's like, where's your priority

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Speaker 1: list now as opposed to you know, in respect to

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Speaker 1: the team, your team, the new players you're getting, the

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Speaker 1: free agents you're looking at, the draft you're looking at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the priority is get the staff hired, right evaluate your

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Speaker 1: own roster, Evaluate the free ages because that's the next

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Speaker 1: thing to come up. Evaluate the college guys while that's

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Speaker 1: going on. Now that you got your staff, get the

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Speaker 1: playbooks ready, you know, get your installs ready. Okay, the

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Speaker 1: guys are going to be here April tenth, so you

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Speaker 1: know they're gonna walk in. We got it. It's got

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Speaker 1: to all be laid out. The whole things has to

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Speaker 1: be mapped out. So that's the agenda right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you are in a pretty unique circumstance as

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Speaker 1: far as the NFC South is concerned, Frank, because you've

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Speaker 1: got teams that in many cases are in a similar

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Speaker 1: situation to you. They're trying to build their rosters up

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Speaker 1: into contenders status. Again, the Bucks are kind of doing

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a teardown, not a complete teardown,

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Speaker 1: but they're going to have a quarterback change. As we know.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback in Atlanta is it Mariota are they going young?

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Speaker 1: Are they going to draft somebody? And you could say

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Speaker 1: the same thing about your team obviously, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then the Saints, who are a little undecided a quarterback

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Speaker 1: as well. So how does that how does that affect

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Speaker 1: your view from a division perspective as to what you're

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Speaker 1: walking into there in the NFC South. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: obviously you look at and say, hey, the NFC South

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Speaker 1: is a good division to be in, right then, And

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Speaker 1: that's true. But I look at it and I say

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Speaker 1: to myself, Hey, I'm we're coming into this team. You know,

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Speaker 1: we had you know, our record was six and eleven, um,

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Speaker 1: you know last year, but like we're really optimistic that

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Speaker 1: we can get this thing turned around fast. Well what

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Speaker 1: do you think those other teams are thinking? Every team's

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Speaker 1: thinking the same, you know, and and yeah, but every

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Speaker 1: and so every year you see it, there's going to

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Speaker 1: be a team that, you know, that comes out of

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Speaker 1: the blue and is you know, making noise. And so

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Speaker 1: we want to be one of those teams, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: we want to be one of those teams. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: so did those other teams in our division. Um, But

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Speaker 1: I am excited about the opportunity to take nothing, for granted,

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Speaker 1: build it one piece at a time and see how

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Speaker 1: it plays out. And all those teams kind of have

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Speaker 1: a similar problem. Quarterback is a question mark for most

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Speaker 1: of them, and it did. It is an arms race.

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Speaker 1: It is an arms race, and we all know the

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Speaker 1: importance of that position. We got to get that decision right, um,

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Speaker 1: and so that's what we're working on. Scott Fitterer is

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Speaker 1: your GM. How do you kind of how have the

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Speaker 1: early goings on with him gone in terms of obviously

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Speaker 1: getting on the same page as to how to build

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Speaker 1: this thing. It's been outstanding. You know, Scott, he's great

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Speaker 1: to work with. He's, you know, got an elite mind.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's super smart, great team player, you know,

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Speaker 1: real humble, but both a confident guy, a great teammate. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's been really good. It's been really good

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Speaker 1: between the two of us constantly going back and forth

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Speaker 1: about these quarterbacks, about the roster, you know, about the

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Speaker 1: whole deal. And then add mister Tepper's wisdom into all that.

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Speaker 1: It's been a good dynamic. It's been I know, there's

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Speaker 1: a a lot of people in Western New York that

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Speaker 1: are pulling for the Carolina Panthers a little harder now

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Speaker 1: that Frante and I and I knew it. I said

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Speaker 1: it immediately when when you were in the running for

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Speaker 1: that for that job, he said, hey, you know what

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00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: he threw the first touchdown pass to that and to

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Speaker 1: Pete Metzler's texted me and said, don't forget who he

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Speaker 1: threw it right and stuff. But it was I thought

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Speaker 1: it was. It is that there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: symmetry to it. There's a lot of people pulling for you. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't be happier and will be. We will be

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Speaker 1: cheering for the Panthers a little bit up there in both.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Guys, thanks for having me on. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's Frank Reich, head coach of the Carolina Panthers. We

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but when we return, Comedian Joey Mullinaro,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna want to stay tuned for this one. You

530
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Speaker 1: haven't heard of mel kiper impersonation like this in a

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Speaker 1: long time. We're back with that next. You're on One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: coming to you live from the NFL Combine and please

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Speaker 1: to be joined now by the co host of These

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Speaker 1: Guys podcast, comedian and impressionist Joey Melinaro, who is an

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Speaker 1: Indie native but is a Steelers fan. I need you

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Speaker 1: to explain the genesis of that. Well, one, I like

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Speaker 1: to win. Two. Two, Well, unless we're playing the Bills. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that, right, But two, Really, my dad

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Speaker 1: grew up in Indianapolis. Simple enough, Colson, get here till

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Speaker 1: eighty four with the Steelers, of course, of the team

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Speaker 1: of the seventies. There you go. So you pass it

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Speaker 1: down to me, gotcha. Now you're a thirty third Team

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Speaker 1: podcast house that goes it's eight. It's got an eight

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Speaker 1: part series coming up. Give us a little into the podcast,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, for those about the mock and it's

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Speaker 1: just a digital YouTube series, all right. It's a play

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Speaker 1: on a sketch that I did a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: As we all know, this business loves mock drafts. We

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Speaker 1: love to talk about it all year round, and so

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Speaker 1: with thirty third Team, I'm doing eight part series, one

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Speaker 1: guest a week, all things NFL Draft, and we look

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Speaker 1: at different mocks. We have some fun, so you kind

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Speaker 1: of slip. I mean, if you're doing a mock draft,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do I'm imagining you're gonna slip

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Speaker 1: into your mel kiper mode and just go all out.

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Speaker 1: And the thing that is that I have to ask, though,

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Speaker 1: are you going all the way right to the widows

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Speaker 1: peak because that thing, that thing is fierce, like it

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Speaker 1: shouldn't just be the voice. I think you gotta go

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Speaker 1: all in. For a segment of the eight part mock,

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Speaker 1: Dracula is envious of that widow's peak. Oh yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't have the makeup department that like a Caliendo

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Speaker 1: or the budget. Right. You know, my wife's taking care

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Speaker 1: of our six month old sons, so she's it's tough

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Speaker 1: for her to balance that and then also get the

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Speaker 1: peak down for me. But maybe you know they got

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Speaker 1: those like Halloween stores that come about in like August. Now,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'll go get one of those Dracula ones so

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Speaker 1: I can just keep it with me on what is

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Speaker 1: the key to that? Because yes, you want to match

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Speaker 1: up the voice, but at the same time, he's like

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Speaker 1: on speed when somebody's asking him about a draft prospect.

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Speaker 1: So you gotta like you gotta match the voice with

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Speaker 1: the energy like you you gotta be like wired. Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things. So one with Kiper,

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Speaker 1: it's always you're looking into the camera and you have

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Speaker 1: the delayed that, for whatever reason, seems like it's about

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Speaker 1: fifteen seconds long. And so he's sitting there and he's

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Speaker 1: got the look right, I'll put my hat up, he's

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Speaker 1: got the right he's listening, and he's got the serious

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Speaker 1: face where he's taken in the question right, and he's

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Speaker 1: waiting to answer, and we're all like, you're there, Melt,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? And then he fires into it from

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Speaker 1: zero to sixty and two seconds exactly. His his ten

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Speaker 1: second split is great. You know what I mean. We're

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Speaker 1: doing combine stuff, right. We gotta let me ask him,

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Speaker 1: Melt Kuiper. So we've got these there's people that think

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Speaker 1: there's four first round quarterbacks. I know you have different

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Speaker 1: opinions from that. I want to know what Melt Kuiper

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Speaker 1: thinks of these four quarterbacks that may may all four

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Speaker 1: go in the top ten. What do you think, Melt? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: try well, I think we're to look at a guy

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Speaker 1: like Bryce Young, he plays on the LCS safe for

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Speaker 1: three years. Heisbo Troughley White on Nick Siban. We know

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Speaker 1: what Nick Sabin brings. We know the kind of progu

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Speaker 1: I'm nobody runs down there. I think what they're looking

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback that you can put to face your

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Speaker 1: franchise kind of guy. You're looking at somebody like Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: Now off your run flags, if you'll cut starts. You

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Speaker 1: look at the size of stature. He's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to hold up in the NFL for very long.

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Speaker 1: But what he does, I think it's gonna be quite

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Speaker 1: worth the Yeah, that's he hangs on those words at

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Speaker 1: the end, doesn't he like guy? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we got so then we go to and another

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Speaker 1: thing that's happening here. Bryce Young is one of the

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Speaker 1: top quarterbacks in the league. His head coach at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban. It's always good for these scouts and guys

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Speaker 1: go in and see if they can get And Nick

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Speaker 1: Saban has a reputation for an unvarnished opinion about his guy. So,

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Speaker 1: coach Saban, what is your unvarnished opinion about your guy

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young? Well, to be honest with you, I'm already

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Speaker 1: on the spring ball and Bryce and my program anymore.

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Speaker 1: So if you want to talk about my team, you

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Speaker 1: want to talk about the roster that I'm putting together.

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Speaker 1: Right now, everybody thinks that we're just gonna crap out

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Speaker 1: another quarterback. I got a competition going on that I

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Speaker 1: gotta manage. And you're sitting here asking me about Bryce Young.

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Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, he's that's good, that's perfect. He's from

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Speaker 1: from West Virginia, but he's like adopted an Alabama accent

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Speaker 1: or something. He's like a one of one dialect. He

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Speaker 1: really is. You're right, because he mixes the South with

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Speaker 1: the West Virginia mountain kind of. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting dialect. It's pretty crazy. I mean it's no,

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Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. It's not like coach Kelly down

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Speaker 1: at LSU, who all of a sudden became Southern after

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Speaker 1: he got hired for an impression. It's like you you

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Speaker 1: see a guy like coach Kelly go down to LSU

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he's Southern. Like if you

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Speaker 1: did a coach Kelly, you'd have to change on the

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Speaker 1: fly there like he'll happened. Right, So that's I've done

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Speaker 1: a few sketches that I've put out and for anybody watching,

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Speaker 1: listening in my YouTube channel or just you know ad

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Speaker 1: Joey mullen aer on Socials where you can go find him.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't know what to do with with coach Kelly,

638
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were you saying, oh, we

639
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: gotta get a saving Kelly, we got to get a

640
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: saving Kelly. And so I just decided to go full in.

641
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: This guy is full southern cartoon character, right, Like I

642
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna try to absolutely imitate him. But now when

643
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: I do, you know a Saban Kelly, I have Saban,

644
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: But then I go full on. I just call him

645
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: Southern Brian Kelly. And he's saying he's saying, oh, well,

646
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: now we're gonna have some osty and watch some football

647
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a grand tom And then

648
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: you're right. So I'm like, if I didn't, if I can't,

649
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: you know, if I didn't know what to do with it,

650
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: then it's like I'm just gonna fall on, going to

651
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: the character everybody's making fun of, and he's gonna be

652
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Southern Brian. Yeah. I think that's a good way to

653
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: sell it. Yeah, all right, So we know Chris Collinsworth

654
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: is a major investor in Pro Football Focus, and you

655
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: know he's kind of running that outfit or financially backing that.

656
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: He's also still doing Sunday Night Football, but he's no

657
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: longer with Al Michaels. He's now with Mike Tarrico on

658
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. And we know he is passionately in

659
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: love with Patrick Mahomes. How in love are you, Chris

660
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: collins Worth with Patrick Mahomes. Well, he had done to

661
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: get much better than Patrick Mahomes. He doesn't. And you

662
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: look at the guy. Every throw he makes, everything he

663
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: does in the pocket, whether it's one foot two feet now,

664
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: sometimes I think he has briefly it out there on

665
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the way he's flying ball. He's just so impressive. And

666
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: everybody wants to cry out Tom Brady leaving the National

667
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: Football you gotta say, we got our next goat coming through.

668
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: That's Patrick Mahomes. I I can't tell you how much

669
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: Bills fans in Buffalo. I can imagine Chris collins where

670
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: he's in his fawning appreciation of mal. I mean, everybody

671
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: totally respects Mahomes, but oh my god, Chris Collinsworth isn't gushing,

672
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: he's like the vomiting all over. There's there's hard it's

673
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: hard to find announcers who were down the middle on

674
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes man bills fans and bills fans are very

675
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: sensitive to it. Sure, so you know, anytime that they

676
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: say something about Pat Mahomes, it's expected they got to

677
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: say something nice about Josh. Yeah. Well else it is. Yeah,

678
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: I've seen a few cutups and it would be tough,

679
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: it would be frustrating. Like I've seen the cutups where

680
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: Mahomes will, you know, kind of scurry out of the

681
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: pocket a little bit thrown incomplete pass and Collinsworth will

682
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: be like, I see, there's just not many guys that

683
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: can do that. And then like Josh Allen throws like

684
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: a seventy two yard bomb on the money. Actually there's

685
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: another guy does exactly that. Yeah, right, yeah, he does that,

686
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: and then it's just like you see kind of overthrow

687
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: them there would give us guy better shot, And you're like,

688
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 1: you doesn't raved about my Yeah, but Chris, I mean

689
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: to me, I want to get out there. He's been

690
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: great to me. He's he's super complimentative and knows that

691
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm just doing out of fun. But I could see

692
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: what Bills fans will be frustrating. Yeah, um, we know

693
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: that the hometown colts here, even you're a Steelers fan,

694
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: are in a mad search for a franchise quarterback because

695
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: it's been revolving, revolving door since Andrew Luck retired. Andrew Luck,

696
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: What is Andrew Luck doing here these days? What I mean,

697
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: why don't you tell us Andrew what he'd been up

698
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: to since you stepped away from football? Just enjoying being

699
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: a dad first of foremost having a lot of fun

700
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: doing that. I still love a game. I would love

701
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: to get involved in some sort of coaching or I

702
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: think maybe like a history teacher going back to school

703
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: for that, maybe a high school football coach just for

704
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: the love of a game instead of you know, going

705
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: out getting beat up by three hundred fifty pound guys,

706
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: even though the money is nice, just for the love

707
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: of a game. They're gonna be a high school coach.

708
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: I can't do you still remember what it was like

709
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: when he just said yeah, I'm done? Like was there

710
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: like riots in the streets here? I remember it very

711
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: well because it happened during a game, right well, I

712
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: was right at the end of the season season preseason

713
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Game three, Chicago Bears are in town. I'm on my

714
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 1: bachelor party in Chicago, Oh, with nothing but Colts fans.

715
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: So we get this news. We're preparing to go out

716
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: for the evening. You know, it's the second night of

717
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: the bachelor party. We've been in regularly doing that all

718
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: day and then we're gonna go have fun in the city.

719
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, my friends start freaking out, screaming.

720
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck happened? Who died? And then

721
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: they showed me the phone and it's Schefter and I said, well,

722
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: there goes my bachelor party. And we stayed in that

723
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: night and everybody was depressed. No, that's when you that's

724
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: when you flip it in the rally and turn it

725
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: up more like our life is over as Colts fans.

726
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: Let's just turn it up and forget about it. For

727
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: four hours or six hours. I was ready to go. Yea,

728
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: these guys got a rally, come on, that'd be better

729
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: than that. That was such. That was such a monumentally depressing,

730
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: disappointing moment that that's what happened. And not only are

731
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: my Steelers fans. I was like, all right, but I

732
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: was working for the indie radio station. It's right over

733
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: there actually right now. They're the flagship stay station for

734
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: the Colt Colt and so I was getting calls about, like,

735
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, because I was running digital stuff. So all

736
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: this is going on. My bachelor party had been drinking

737
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: all day. It was a nightmare. Wow. So thanks Andrews.

738
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: I remember too. It started coming at schefter or somebody

739
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: dropped it while the game was going on. Late in

740
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, it's still talked about here. People were

741
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: booing him. Yeah they were. They were ticked ye. And

742
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't off the field. He was in uniform. No,

743
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He was still rehabbing, and so it was

744
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: like third game, but everybody was like, oh, yeah, he

745
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: he had done on field workouts a week before. So

746
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: they're like, we're getting close, We're getting close, and then

747
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: all of a sudden close Wow for this thing. Wow. Yep.

748
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: We do know that. Colin Cowherd is, you know, a

749
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: national radio host. He's got some interesting opinions to say

750
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: the least. Uh. He seems to kind of knock buffalo

751
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: every chance he gets. I mean, he has respect for

752
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: them and coach McDermott and what they do. But there

753
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of times where he will inflate the

754
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: rankings of other teams. But Colin, if you had to

755
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 1: put your top five together of teams in the league

756
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty three, or maybe just give me

757
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: a top three, where would you Where would you go

758
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: for top three teams? At least is how they look

759
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: now going into twenty twenty three. Yeah, so I think

760
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it starts with Kansas City. That's

761
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: fair to say. You see him, my homes read. They're

762
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: not going anywhere, all right, They're they're the top dog.

763
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: They're the girl you want to take to the problem.

764
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Now you go down number two. I think that's Joe Burrow.

765
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I think that's Cincinnati. Whether you want to talk about

766
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: what they've invested in the offensive line, with the receivers,

767
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: with the defense, you got Joe Burrow. He's the guy

768
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: that Yeah, maybe I don't start thinking about bringing the problem. Third,

769
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go Philadelphia. What they've been able

770
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: to do. They're coming off of Super Wall, Bearrats. They

771
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: have an identity. You look at Buffalo, Buffalo's all reliant

772
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: on Josh Allen. If you're a family and you only

773
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: have one income coming in, oh sorry, all of a sudden,

774
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: you're not being able to bring that bread home. What's

775
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: your family gonna do. That's my problem with Buffalo right now,

776
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: to rely on Josh Allen. Don't have enough income coming

777
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: in other places start, Yeah, that's that's what he does.

778
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he does. Yeah, and and it chaps

779
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: builds fans to no end. This is weird for me,

780
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: I mean because I mean, you guys got a stack

781
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: that you got the generation, you got a great coach,

782
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: you got great fans, you got all these things. And

783
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: I still feel like you guys are you know, I

784
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: feel like you guys are still this chip on your shoulder.

785
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: You're feeling slighted everywhere. Yeah. I mean you couldn't say

786
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: that going into last season because they were everybody's super

787
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Bowl favorite, So you couldn't say that last year. But

788
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: even as the season wore on, like people are just

789
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: taking their shots. It's a team we were we we

790
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: talked about it all the time. It was a team

791
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: that was going thirteen and three and they were getting

792
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: knocked for style points on victories. You know, didn't when

793
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: good enough wasn't convincing, enough wasn't by more than one score,

794
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And it's just something I think

795
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: every team that's on the rise, you know, people look

796
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 1: at it, looked to poke holes in it. Sure, not

797
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: only in this case. It was our own fans that

798
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: were kind of like, we all like going cash they

799
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: because there's always this hand ringing until you win the

800
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: big one, right, It's like, Oh, what's gonna happen that

801
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: that is gonna keep us from winning the super Bowl

802
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: this year? Yeah, and it's it's kind of that angst

803
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: that you I think Steeler fans don't really understand that anymore. Yeah,

804
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: but we're still living in that life, right, Yeah, you're right. Yeah,

805
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean we got a ways to get back up there. Definitely,

806
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: the lost four games that played Buffalo, it makes me

807
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: want to freaking dra jam my head throat. Yeah, but

808
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: a long way last season he did at the end

809
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: of the season. I feel good Ken, He's a friend

810
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: of mine, um, you know, so I'm not gonna Yeah,

811
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: I believe in him and I'm ready to see him

812
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: continue to thrive. But yeah, Buffalo playing you guys, just

813
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't even want to watch the games. Well, it

814
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: was an ugly one last year for sure. Yeah, you

815
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: know three. Yeah, it was the that was it was

816
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,959
Speaker 1: that turn it off when it turned, Yeah it turned.

817
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: It's the that ninety eight yard or that went and

818
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden third and ten at the two

819
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: yard line. Like okay, this is a start of good thing,

820
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: got a little good and going no more good thing. Yeah,

821
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: over twel one minute into it, Joey, great having you man,

822
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: really appreciate out. Thanks out for us real quick because

823
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: I know you've got the series coming up on the

824
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: thirty thirteen first episodes with former Coltit coach Chuck Pogano. Ye,

825
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: so you know who's coming up in future episodes here? Yeah,

826
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: uh so Matt Miller from ESPNK popular draft analyst, you know,

827
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: knows a lot of the stuff, the ends and outs.

828
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the second guest. But that's on thirty

829
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: thirty thirteen dot com on their YouTube channel where all

830
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: those are living, and then in different social clips on

831
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: my social channels, Joey mullan Naro you can find that there.

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00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, guys, I appreciate this. Mul l I n

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: A r O. You can find me there everywhere at

834
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: Joey mullennaro and good luck to you guys this upcoming year. Yeah,

835
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. I think I like Kiper and

836
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: Sabing the best. Just for the record, good, really good,

837
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: thank you. All Right, that's Joey Molnaro joining us here

838
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live. We'll take a break, be back

839
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: with more live from the NFL Combine in Indianapolis. It's

840
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by Kalid of Health. It's Buffalo

841
00:42:51,880 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Here we are NFL Combine, Indianapolis, Indiana. Chris Brown,

842
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Steve Taskers slipped into a little Keith Jackson there. All

843
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 1: the impressions from Joey mullanaro, I decided to participate as well.

844
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: You do a better Keith Jackson than I do. Um

845
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: Not today, Not today though, okay, fair enough, not after Joe.

846
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: Isn't that one of the best kipers You've ever heard?

847
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: His milk Kiper is spot on. It's it's pretty good.

848
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: He did a good job. We wanted to get into

849
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: the NFL PA team report cards that came out late yesterday,

850
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: where every team in the league was graded by the

851
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: players on those teams in a number of different categories

852
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: including treatment of families, team nutrition, weight room, strength staff,

853
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: training room, training staff, and then hold on, I got

854
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: to get to the end of the column here because

855
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: it doesn't travel, travel, and locker room, and the bills

856
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: overall in the entire league had a cumulative grade that

857
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: put them ninth overall in the league. Some of their

858
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: best grades were with the weight room and strength staff

859
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: A plus, training staff A locker room A minus, and

860
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: training room B plus, So those were some of their

861
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: better grade. Training room, training staff, weight room were all

862
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: A pluses, and their strength staff was also a plus.

863
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: That was also got an A minus for treatment of families,

864
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: So some pretty favorable grades for Buffalo. On the whole.

865
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I forgot about all the stuff that goes on with

866
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: the players and all that. Yeah, that's it's an interesting

867
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: poll that the NFLPA would pull off here. And I

868
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: know that families, in the way they're tree you are

869
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: really important to the players because you know, on game

870
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: day you go out, you show up at that game

871
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: and you've got all this stuff going out and a

872
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: lot of players I was like this too. I was

873
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: always so my wife dragging all the kids of the game.

874
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: I never felt really comfortable out there getting ready, particularly

875
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: on home games. It never really felt comfortable until I

876
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: laid eyes on my family that were there, I know. Yeah,

877
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: then I could focus on the game until that time,

878
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, it's it's a you know,

879
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: it's a festival out the outside, you know, and you

880
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: got your kids there. You know, somebody, you know, your

881
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 1: kid falls down or cracks his head or something in

882
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: the parking lot, then you don't find out until Africa,

883
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you need to lay

884
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: eyes on your family. And your ability to do that

885
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: was somewhat incumbent on the on the way that they

886
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: were handled by the club. Plus, if it was January, December,

887
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: January February, they couldn't stay, they couldn't hang in out

888
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: there all that time. So you need to have a

889
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: room where the moms could go in and all the

890
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: young moms could go in and sit with the kids

891
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: and get warm. All that stuff's important to the players,

892
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: and and that's just that's not important. That's not even

893
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: the football stuff that's really important. Yeah, the team that

894
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: finished dead last in the league with NFLPA report cards

895
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: by the players, do you want to give it a

896
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: guess no, no. The Washington Commanders finished thirty second. They

897
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: got an F for the treatment of families. I'm sorry,

898
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: D plus for food service and nutrition, C plus for

899
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: weight room, A plus for the strength coaches. F minus

900
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: for a training room is F mine. I didn't even

901
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: know that was a great. Like you're almost hit. You're

902
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: you're almost at a G there. With an F minus

903
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: means you're like, not only are you not trying, that

904
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: means you're failing spectacularly. That means you're like making an

905
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: effort to make it bad. You're like I minus, you're

906
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: like trying to They got three F minus. Yeah, I know, so, yeah,

907
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: let me finish here. F minus in training room. The

908
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 1: training staff got a D locker room, FUS team travel

909
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: F minus. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta be you're like working

910
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: at it. You gotta try hard to be that bad. Yes,

911
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: that is exactly right. You have to put effort in

912
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: to being bad, to be that bad thirty first. That

913
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: has to be all your that has to be your

914
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: motivation to be that bad. The thing that's interesting is

915
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders had four fs among eight total grades,

916
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: but they were outdone in number of f's by the

917
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Now, the Arizona Cardinals cumulative grade was thirty

918
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: first because they had an A for their strength coaches,

919
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: but they had five f's out of eight five fs

920
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: F and treatment of families F minus, and food service

921
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: and nutrition F minus in weight room, F minus in

922
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: training room F in locker room, their training staff and

923
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: team travel got to B plus. So I looked at

924
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: some of the writeups, like they don't have a family

925
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: box for players families to sit in for games. They said,

926
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: they've actually players said that their spouses actually had to

927
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: go nurse their babies or breastfeed in a public bathroom. Yeah,

928
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: that's terrible. It is very bad. It's very bad. And

929
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: I'll say that it goes We've said it. You know,

930
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: all these the thirty two teams, we all think of

931
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: them the same. They're all not the same. They are

932
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: not the same. No, and this, you know, this is

933
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: testament to it, right. And I think the biggest thing

934
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: that you can draw from this with respect to the

935
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: Bills is I think we always knew that the Bills

936
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: organization treats the families very well, so it's not surprising

937
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: to see them with an A minus grade. There but

938
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: you think about the eighteen million dollars investment that the

939
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 1: Bagoula is made in their training center, and there it

940
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: is weight room a plus strength coaches a plus, training

941
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: staff a. And let's not forget this, the bakoul has

942
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: used their own money to redo and redesign the locker room,

943
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: which also got an A minus. So their investment in

944
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: the team is well recognized and depreciated, I think based

945
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: on these grades from the play, we have said too

946
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: and they do right up too. And one of the

947
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: things they said, listen, they got the training staff, the

948
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: training room, the pts and the tcs. The only way

949
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: they can make it betters have more of them, you know.

950
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: And right but they even said they feel they have

951
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: enough on hand to accommodate everyone. So it's it's that

952
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: was one of the things that went under the radar. Yeah,

953
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: it was a big shiny new building and all the

954
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: weight staff and it looks cool and they use it

955
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: for a number off that we you know, we walk

956
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: in and out of their old day and they're they're

957
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: they're using it for a ton of stuff and it's

958
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: really versatile facility. But it's the people. It's like every business,

959
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: the people inside of it make it better. Staffing, the coaches,

960
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: the trainers, the pts, all those the people are what

961
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 1: make it, make it the best. And that's that's what

962
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: has been I think the most significant change in the

963
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: new facilities in Buffalo has been their willingness to staff

964
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: it with quality people. Yeah, no question about it. We

965
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back,

966
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: our number two will begin with former NFL Front Office executive,

967
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: current NFL Network analysts and executive vice president of Football

968
00:50:56,080 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: Operations of the XFL, Mark Ross going to join us.

969
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna pose him the question, if you're a GM now,

970
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: how are you handling this Jayleen Carter situation? He's coming

971
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: up next. Le is One Bill's Live presented by Called

972
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Light of Health. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

973
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker at the NFL Combine and Indie. Pleased to

974
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: be joined now by NFL Network analyst and executive vice

975
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: president of Football Ops for the x FL. It is

976
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: Mark Ross joining us. Always good to see him, Mark,

977
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time. Appreciate it. My pleasure. Once

978
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: a Bill, always a Bill. So yeah, that's right, guy.

979
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: So we've got a situation that happened here earlier this

980
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: week that is pretty seismic in nature. A guy that's

981
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: considered to be the top prospect in the draft by

982
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: many people, Jalen Carter has a major off the field

983
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: situation that happened after he interviewed with just about everybody

984
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: in the league that he met with here at the

985
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: NFL Combine from a front office executive perch, which is

986
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: a place where you sat for many years, how do

987
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: you handle this now in terms of doing proper due

988
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: diligence after the incident, Yeah, every team in the top

989
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: ten is going to have Jalen Carter at their facility.

990
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: They're going to be at George's protade. They're gonna have

991
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: every person psychologies secured. Everything. You're just gonna dig deep

992
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: into finding out as much as possible. You're trying to

993
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: match what he told you already with what he's going

994
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: to tell you from now on about the incident and

995
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: other incidents incidents. So that's the big thing where you

996
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 1: just have to dive in as much as possible. The

997
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: teams that they're gonna look, let's be honest, they're gonna

998
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: be teams that don't care and they're just gonna justify

999
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: taking him. That's really what you're trying to do. If

1000
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: you're at this point, I want to take Jalen Carter,

1001
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: you're just justifying as I've done as much work as

1002
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: possible to make sure that this young man is who

1003
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: we want him to be. And it's the problem. I've

1004
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: said it on our show. He's a human being. So

1005
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: he's done some wonderfully selfless, great things as a human being, like,

1006
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: for instance, the well publicized story of him buying lunch

1007
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: for one of his teammates who wasn't on scholarship. Great kid,

1008
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: great gestures, selfless and then of course the other things

1009
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: where makes some stupid mistakes as a as a twenty

1010
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 1: two year old kid. It's a balance, and you can't

1011
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: expect the guy to be you know, can't. He's not Gandhi.

1012
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, well here's the thing that happens. It's the problem.

1013
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: It's like one thing shouldn't just define a person, whether

1014
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: it's good, bad, or indifferent. People have multifaceted personality and

1015
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: things that they can do. You can do great in

1016
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: a charity and then do other things that aren't great,

1017
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,399
Speaker 1: and that can be all part of one person. So

1018
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: that's what Jalen Carter is is what these teams are

1019
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: going to dig into, what information they already had leading

1020
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: up to this point, what they got out of the combine,

1021
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: and now post put that all together and say, Okay,

1022
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: we feel comfortable with this young man. We have a

1023
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: receiver class that by many accounts is lacking in true

1024
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: alpha males, number one, plug in play kind of guys

1025
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: that we've seen the past several years. How does that

1026
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 1: change the approach of general managers? Because if you're drafting

1027
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: in round one and you know there are receivers that

1028
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: are borderline with that grade, maybe they're a late one,

1029
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: early two, but they lack elite physical traits which we

1030
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: see a lot of gms lean towards in the early rounds.

1031
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: How do you square that When you have somebody like

1032
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Azay Flowers, for example, who's five nine eighty two and

1033
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, can run all over the place, but he's

1034
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: five nine eighty two. He's lacking some elite physical traits

1035
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: that you often see come off the board early. How

1036
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 1: do you square that? As this is where you have

1037
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: to stick with what your evaluations were as far as

1038
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: the true value of the player and what they can

1039
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: and cannot do, and not get desperate and over value

1040
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: players because you may need that position, or because the

1041
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: supply and demand. The supply is not there, so we're

1042
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: going to demand it even higher. You have to say,

1043
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: these guys are second round picks. Let's not put them

1044
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: in the first round just because we think we need

1045
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: a receiver and we're desperate from a receiver. Now, you

1046
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: may see some teams do You're going to see teams

1047
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: do that right, and you'll the better teams they'll stick with. Hey,

1048
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: this is what this guy's true value is. We're going

1049
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: to take him at the right time for what that

1050
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: dictates and not put them somewhere they shouldn't need. Is

1051
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: a terrible evaluated Brian Billy you said that with a

1052
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: Baltimore so many years ago. If you need a player,

1053
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: doesn't make him better, no question, you might be stuck

1054
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: with taking him though. And that's where these teams find

1055
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: themselves in this hits and plus it And how does

1056
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: a front office on the draft day in the room

1057
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: you've got a really good guard or a really good safety,

1058
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: or a great wide receiver and a really great corner.

1059
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 1: Different compare apples to apples apples to oranges. How important

1060
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: at that point, all the meetings that you've had with

1061
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: your coaching staff, with your scouts over there, you should

1062
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: know draft day who when you're valuing them, your board

1063
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: should be set up to see in their same buckets,

1064
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: so you're not completely out of whack. Now. I've been

1065
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: part of the best picks where we stick to the

1066
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: board and we stick to the guys, and I've been

1067
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: a part of some bad picks too, where we thought

1068
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: we needed a player and we got desperate and we

1069
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: skipped over players that we had a higher on the

1070
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: board and one to another position that we thought we

1071
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: really needed and they turned out to be disasters. So

1072
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: and every team has those stories. Not every team is

1073
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent on their picks. Every team has

1074
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: their stories where, yes, you talk about it ad nauseam

1075
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 1: leading up, we're going to stick to the boards, stick

1076
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: to the boors, stick to the board. Then you get

1077
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: there own draft night and you're looking at it and

1078
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: you're talking yourself out of what you should and shouldn't do,

1079
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: and you make mistakes when you do that. The tight

1080
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: end class is getting an awful lot of hype. Some

1081
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: are saying it's the best group in a decade at

1082
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: that position. We've seen that position kind of morphin change

1083
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: as this has become more of a passing league. I

1084
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: think the teams that still want a tight end that

1085
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: can keep a defense guessing in terms of what's coming

1086
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: is preferred over a Mike Kasiki type. He's a receiver,

1087
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. So are there enough

1088
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: of those multifaceted guys in this class or are we

1089
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: strictly just talking more often than not with this group

1090
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: pass catchers who are going to be a nice a

1091
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: nice place to pivot if maybe the receiver value isn't

1092
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: there because you got a tight end that can help

1093
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: you almost as much. Yeah, I think when you see

1094
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: the Kelsey and he's going to be the standard right

1095
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: now what he does, and that's what everyone wants. And

1096
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 1: because Kelsey need to get it there and dig somebody

1097
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: out third one, no stand him on the sideline, Let's

1098
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 1: just have him catch ten balls. I think teams would

1099
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: still prefer that these athletic guys that can make big

1100
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: plays for you and this draft class, as you mentioned

1101
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: Dalton kicked, I think he's phenomenal, but he gives you

1102
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of that blocking two. So yeah, ideally

1103
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: you want the mismatches and you want guys that especially

1104
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 1: if you got receivers and now, hey, now this guy

1105
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: works the middle and we put them in different places,

1106
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: that's what you want. If there's a guy I don't

1107
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: I don't see one in this class that is just

1108
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: phenomenal at doing everything, that's just a rare, rare breed anymore.

1109
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: Is there a guy in this class that plays like

1110
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: a sa Quon Barkley who is supremely gifted at his position,

1111
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: but the position is de valued a little bit, or

1112
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: like a middle linebacker who could be a general like

1113
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: a Luke Keekley Typer, you know, Mike Singletary type guy

1114
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: who's a transformative player, but at a position that is

1115
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to value. Well, the running back. Yeah,

1116
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: the running back position now has been in the value.

1117
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: But I think the Alabama gives us this phenomenal I

1118
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: love his skills, said. The Alvin Kamara comparisons are real.

1119
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean I never like to do that with players,

1120
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: but when you watch him, it's like, gosh, yes, he

1121
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: does kind of play like Kamara. Just his slickness and

1122
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: his hands and the way he just his balanced So

1123
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 1: but where is the value of running backs now? The

1124
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: top ten of the top fifteens is second round and

1125
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, you look at what the Chiefs did, just

1126
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: throw U Pacheco in there, a late round pick, like, well,

1127
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: let's just get a guy like that. So yeah, I

1128
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: think depending on where your team is and what your

1129
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: other needs are, and how strong you are at certain positions,

1130
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: then you can kind of take some of those undervalued positions.

1131
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: We've seen the Chiefs have to pivot and put a

1132
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: lot more young players on the field as Patrick Mahomes

1133
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: contract gobbles up more and more of the cap. Now

1134
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: that you're into like year four of his extension, year

1135
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: three or four, the Bills are kind of not far

1136
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 1: behind in that area. And we saw the Chiefs do

1137
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: it with great success last year. Jalen Watson, Josh Williams,

1138
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie, Pacheco, as you mentioned, even sky Moore, he

1139
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: had like five rookies on the field playing a lot

1140
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: of snaps, and by the end of the season they

1141
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: were making major contributions. We'll get the Super Bowl alone,

1142
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: all of them flashed. Are the Bills in a position

1143
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: now with their cap kind of getting more and more

1144
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: cost prohibitive where they're gonna have to maybe bend a

1145
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: little and put younger players on the field sooner, playing

1146
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: larger roles, no question, And that's just the natural progression

1147
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: of Look, you get a quarterback, you hit on them,

1148
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: so you got to pay them. That's a good that's good.

1149
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: Bad it is, but you gotta do it. But with

1150
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and everyone will say, let's replicate what they did.

1151
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: But okay, they hit on those guys. Yeah, so you

1152
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: got the young guy. You can't just throw them out

1153
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: there and they're bums. Man, those guys were players, and

1154
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: they're clear to see that those guys are players when

1155
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: you watch the Chiefs play. And the better of Mahomes

1156
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: is the better he makes everyone else. And that's what

1157
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: the Bills are hoping with Josh Allen, that he's got

1158
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 1: to make those guys better as well while the team

1159
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: develops and grows. If these guys do into players, and

1160
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: that's incoming on your scouting staff. We got to hit

1161
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: on these guys, We got to identify them correctly, and

1162
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: we got to make sure that they're right and your

1163
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: coaching staff to develop them once they get there and

1164
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: have that confidence and continuity together to say this is

1165
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: the plan. Now we have to do this. We all

1166
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: have to be on the same page with how we're

1167
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: building this team. So we're here to combine and it's

1168
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: all about these young players coming out of college. But

1169
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: before they any of these teams get to the draft,

1170
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: you got to go through free agency, and the philosophy

1171
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: prevailing for philosophy for teams is fill all the holes

1172
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: you can with free agents so you can take the

1173
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: best pro that's going to come out on that draft.

1174
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 1: When that guy's out there, he's gonna have the best

1175
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: pro career. That's the guy we take, whether it's a

1176
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: running back or wide out of whatever. How do you

1177
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: Every team's got thirty one different cap problems and spots

1178
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: on the cap, So for a team like the Bills,

1179
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: they've still got to do some work to get under

1180
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: There's no question they've got to have a menu of

1181
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: free agents they want to grab. I mean, what's your

1182
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: timeline for these clubs of getting they're posturing for the

1183
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: Obviously it's draft day, you got to get there, but

1184
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: free agency starts middle marks. Yeah, they've they've been meeting

1185
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: and meeting for weeks and all year of their pro

1186
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: scouts of valuing, evaluating the free agent class coming up.

1187
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: So this has been a year's worth of progress and

1188
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: work that they're putting into. Right now, they should kind

1189
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: of have an idea of what they're doing. They know

1190
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: what their plan is, all right, how do we implement

1191
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: the plan? What sacrifices do we have to make? Who

1192
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: can we sacrifice on the team now to go get

1193
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: someone else? What's the upgrade? That's the Again you talk

1194
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: about the philosophy that everyone has to be on the

1195
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: same page and game planning. Just like coaches game plan

1196
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: for a game, behind the scenes, the front office is

1197
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: game plan for free agency and game plan for the draft,

1198
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: and game plan for your team once that hits the

1199
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: field when mini camps start. How much pressure does the

1200
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: team put itself under to say, we got to get

1201
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: at least two guards in this free agent class because

1202
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: we you know what I mean? Yeah, how much pressure

1203
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: do you feel? Well? You you prioritize the guys. But

1204
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: just like the draft where you can't overvalued, same thing

1205
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: with free agency where you can't get in the bidding

1206
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: wars or get desperate. You had a guy at a

1207
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: certain number, and now you know these two other teams

1208
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 1: are after them and we think we need them, and

1209
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: oh man, you're going back and forth and you throw

1210
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: out where you put that set that number, you say

1211
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: this is it and get it, get out of the biddings.

1212
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: So you know, identifying the talent and sticking with it.

1213
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: And all teams are different, as you mentioned, everyone Satury

1214
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: Cab is different, so everyone can have the same philosophy

1215
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: and everyone wants everyone to have that. You can't every

1216
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: all thirty two team circumstances are different, so you have

1217
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 1: to sort of approach that differently from each team. But

1218
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: as long as you have that conviction and that the

1219
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: program you're game playing together as a team, that's when

1220
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: the success happens. Last one we've got for you because

1221
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: we know you got to move along. We've gotten this

1222
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: far and we haven't even talked about quarterbacks at the

1223
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: top and the teams that need one, they're all sitting

1224
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: there in the top ten. Could we see a wild

1225
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: top ten with a lot of movement up and down

1226
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: the board here because of how desperate some of these

1227
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: teams I think in and of course talked about all

1228
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and their true value and what they are

1229
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: and what you may or may not think about these

1230
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: top five guys, but teams, see, that's what you need,

1231
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: and teams are going to get desperate. And you can

1232
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: essentially look at eight teams in the top ten and

1233
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: say eight teams needing for very some complete desperations. Some

1234
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: have an older quarterback that they want to get better

1235
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: and developed. But they all have different circumstances, Like eight

1236
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: teams are besides Philly and I love Chicago, I love

1237
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: Justin Field, so that's not a conversation for me. But

1238
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: all eight other teams there for different reasons, they're going

1239
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: to could get desperate. So that could be it could

1240
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: be like crazy, and how do you real quick how

1241
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: as the team like Chicago, like we know they're playing

1242
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: one against another to try to milk as much as

1243
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: they can out, but that's a dangerous game, Like how

1244
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: far do you push that? And how much do relationships

1245
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: matter with who you're talking to? Also, I get to

1246
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: asked that question so much, how do you know? It's

1247
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: relationships and it's who you trust, and you got to

1248
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: have whoever your staff is, your cap guy tight with

1249
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: the agents. You just have to know the landscape and

1250
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: know the people that you can trust and getting the

1251
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 1: real intel on what the market is and what teams

1252
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 1: are giving up for guys. And but Chicago's got they

1253
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,479
Speaker 1: gotta be feeling good about where they are right now.

1254
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: What are the chances of Chicago trades twice like flips

1255
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: out in from one to two and then and then

1256
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: two to six and then two whatever. Yeah, it's it's possible.

1257
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: It's definitely possible. It's got to be the right offers.

1258
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 1: But again, at their position that they're in is amazing,

1259
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: and they need a ton and a ton of talent.

1260
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: So I think the more picks in Chicago can get

1261
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: to build around justin the better. Mark, thanks for the time.

1262
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm always good to see, appreciate it, and thanks for

1263
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: setting us straight. That's gonna be wild. Top ten. I

1264
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: really think it's gonna be nuts build up. We got

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Speaker 1: to do that. That is NFL network analyst Mark Ross,

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Speaker 1: also busy in the XFL as executive VP of Football Ops.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break here, be back with much more

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live presented by a lot of health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here at the NFL Combine

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, with you a Thursday

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Speaker 1: edition of one Bills Live Join Now by CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: draft analyst Chris Trepasso making a return appearance. Good to

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Speaker 1: have you back, Chris. We talked receivers the other day.

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Speaker 1: Now we're gonna talk o alignment, another perceived major need

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Speaker 1: for the Bills. With up to about four or five

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Speaker 1: free agents on Buffalo's offensive line contingent this offseason, you

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Speaker 1: know they're not all coming back, and who knows, they

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Speaker 1: may be looking for some upgrades in free agency, but

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Speaker 1: I think we all think they're gonna probably make a

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Speaker 1: move in free agency and also in the draft. You're

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Speaker 1: here for the draft prospects as far as the end

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Speaker 1: of round one, if the values good names that we've

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Speaker 1: seen pop up, O Cyrus Torrance, the Florida kid who

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Speaker 1: transferred from Louisiana, and then a kid that's been gaining steam.

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Speaker 1: We had Daniel Jeremiah on the other day. He couldn't

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Speaker 1: say enough good things about Steve Avila from TCU. Why

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Speaker 1: don't you dice those two guys up for us first?

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Speaker 1: So those two guard prospects are about as close as

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get to being what I call NFL strong,

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Speaker 1: where a lot of times blockers come in, they have

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Speaker 1: great film, they're athletic, but it takes them like a

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Speaker 1: year or two to just get that NFL caliber strength. Well,

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Speaker 1: Cyrus Torrens is going to be one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: guards here. He's a masher and to go from Louisiana

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Speaker 1: to Florida and still play really well, I think that

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Speaker 1: was really impressive. Steve Avila, I think can play more

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Speaker 1: center if you want him to. In a pinch. He's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more athletic, but also his anchoring ability

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Speaker 1: is outstanding. Both of those guys played over three thousands

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Speaker 1: or two thousand snaps in college, so they're very experienced.

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Speaker 1: And again from the strength perspective, they're going to tick

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Speaker 1: those boxes. Yeah, and looking at the at the way

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Speaker 1: they're stacked and where they're separated and kind of mixed together.

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Speaker 1: Offensive guards, offensive tackles, centers, guard centers, guard tackles. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Cyrus Torrens maybe the best guard prospect in this year.

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Speaker 1: Guard Yeah, Yeah, he's a six five, three hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty seven pounds. He's a monster. Um a Vila seems

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Speaker 1: he's not that big, but there are other guys as

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Speaker 1: well who might give you a little more versatility a

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Speaker 1: guy like Cody Mock out of Boys. No, I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: to North Dakota State. Uh, you've got the kid Tipman

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Speaker 1: out of Wisconsin. You've got guys who can play guarden center,

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Speaker 1: but they're and they're also you know, big dudes as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: how do you separate and what do you think the

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Speaker 1: value is on a guy that you know, Cyrus Torrens

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Speaker 1: is a guard slash guard, yeah right, not a center

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Speaker 1: slash guard or a tackle slash guard. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: in general there's obviously more value when you can play

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Speaker 1: multiple positions. And Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott have preached

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Speaker 1: that versatility. They bringing in guys like John Feliciano a

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Speaker 1: few years ago that played center, could play guard. They

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Speaker 1: are very outward about that that they want those interior

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Speaker 1: linemen that are comfortable playing multiple positions. You just outline

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Speaker 1: a bunch that can play multiple spots. So with Torrance,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be maybe a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a deterrent or something that won't necessarily lower his stock,

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Speaker 1: But if we're looking at it, of course through a

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Speaker 1: bill's perspective, they would maybe push him down a little

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Speaker 1: bit because you draft him. He's playing guard. He's not

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Speaker 1: playing tackle, not a Cody Ford situation. He's playing guard

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Speaker 1: in That's what it does mean, though, is the Bills

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Speaker 1: have if they're gonna take a guy like Osiris Torrance,

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Speaker 1: they will have already filled a backup center role or

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They're gonna have to have

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Speaker 1: that gap filled by another guy, so they got to

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Speaker 1: put that into the mix. It may push Osiris Torrance

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Speaker 1: if they got a guy they liked who can do both,

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Speaker 1: it may push somebody else just past him. Even though

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Speaker 1: he's a dominant guard. Gate could be this guy could

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Speaker 1: be a Pro Bowl, all Pro kind of guard. But

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Speaker 1: it may push him down because they got to cover

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Speaker 1: their cover their bases and make sure they have all

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Speaker 1: five guys backed up. I think Avila is a better

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Speaker 1: move player too than Torrence. Torrence is kind of a

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Speaker 1: anchor down and pass protection guy, or drive you off

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Speaker 1: the line run guy. Right. He's not getting out pulling

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01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: on a pull play, you know, on a pin and

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: pull scheme or even on a screen. Well. No, but

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Speaker 1: a lot's been a lot's been made about Torrence's flat feet,

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01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: like he's you know, when people are like really we're

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01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: looking at guys. Yes, they look at this, and you

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01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: know he's got no arches on his feet. He's flat

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01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: from heel to toe and that affects movement skills. But

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Speaker 1: it's also like trying to push a stump out of

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Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, it's hard. You know, the guy can't.

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Speaker 1: Up Rooting him is impossible, right, but if you want to,

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Speaker 1: if this team wants, and maybe they don't because they

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Speaker 1: run the RPO game so much, maybe they don't care

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Speaker 1: about whether a guy can execute a screen or not

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, but if they do, or they value some

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Speaker 1: kind of movement skills, it's probably a Villa over him, right, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: And I think unless we see Steve Avila tested through

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Speaker 1: the roof, which I don't think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a easingly athletic here in Indie, kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: he's more of a Round two guy, or if just

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Speaker 1: everything goes against what the Bills want in round one

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Speaker 1: and all the receivers are gone, it would be more

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Speaker 1: of a Round two type selection because he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: quite the same power or I think upside of Osyrus Torrens.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, he definitely moves about it. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to oversimplify it, but you know that we've seen

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Speaker 1: the Bills draft and guys that they draft or have

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Speaker 1: some traits. Yeah, they're six or five plus. You know,

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Speaker 1: they got Spencer Brown who's six to seven. There's a

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Speaker 1: guy in Washington, this kid, Jason Kirkland, who's three hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty plus pounds but he's sixty seven, but he

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Speaker 1: does play guard. A guy like that with that kind

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Speaker 1: of link, you'd think maybe he's guard slash tackle. If

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Speaker 1: if you give him up time, if he plays a

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Speaker 1: year at guard and works on it, then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, well came a pinch. He can finish it tackle.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. To me, that kind of stuff

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01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: rings just like having a guy with flexibility rings for

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Speaker 1: the Bills philosophy. More so over, maybe moves o Cyrus

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01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 1: Towns down. It could move a guy like Jason Kirkland

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01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: who's a guard, but he's a six seven guard up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he actually played tackle a few years ago at Washington,

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01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: had an injury. He actually, I think like retired from

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Speaker 1: football and then came back and was really good this

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Speaker 1: past season playing guard. I think he kind of knew

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Speaker 1: he's one of those players that understood his future was

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Speaker 1: at guard at the next level. And if the Bills

1393
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: kind of have a maybe a sneaky need at offensive tackle,

1394
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: the right tackle spot, that's where Kirkland ultimately or first

1395
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: played at Washington and became that on the Draft Radar project.

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Speaker 1: I think they are going to bring in some competition

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,439
Speaker 1: for Spencer Brown. Yeah, that's just the way McDermott and

1398
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: being operate. If your play is a little inconsistent, they're

1399
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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna light a fire under you by bringing

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Speaker 1: somebody else in to compete with you for that job.

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Speaker 1: What about the left guard at USC Jersey number seventy

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Speaker 1: two Voorhees, This is a kid that likes uprooting and

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Speaker 1: finishing people. Like I watched his tape and the first

1404
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: thing that well, the two things I like about a

1405
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: best and you tell me field Chris matches his feet

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: with his hands really well, like his feet never stopped

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01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,799
Speaker 1: moving once he's got a guy on skates, and then

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: that's not enough for him. He wants to throw the

1409
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,879
Speaker 1: guy into the ground. Yeah, that's appealing to any football

1410
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 1: coach that coaches offensive line in the NFL. Yeah, I

1411
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: think a lot of offensive line coaches are gonna be

1412
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 1: banging the table for Andrew Vorhees. When I said earlier

1413
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Speaker 1: that there was two guys that played over three thousand snaps,

1414
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Speaker 1: I was actually thinking of Andrew Vorhees, five year starter

1415
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: at USC and I think what bodes well for the

1416
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: Bills is with the COVID year, a lot of these

1417
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,040
Speaker 1: guys stayed an extra year when they're not going to

1418
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: maybe have as much upside coming in at twenty one

1419
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: or twenty two years old. Like I mentioned earlier, they

1420
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,440
Speaker 1: have better strength. They've had that extra year in a program.

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Speaker 1: They come in better, they come in bigger, they come

1422
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,759
Speaker 1: in stronger, they have more experience, and I think most

1423
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: offensive line coaches would say, like, yeah, these guys need

1424
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Speaker 1: more experience. You're right about Vorhees. He's an absolute masher,

1425
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: not a crazy athlete, but he really feels like that

1426
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: high floor player where you could plug him in and

1427
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: maybe you're not getting a pro bowler right away, but

1428
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: you're not getting a liability in the year. Way. Where

1429
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: are they projecting him about, Like where do you see

1430
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: the common range like two second or third round for him?

1431
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 1: Because again, offensive line coaches are gonna love him, and

1432
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: his floor is extremely high as an older prospect that

1433
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: has played a thing about it too is on your

1434
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, and the Bills are notorious for this. And

1435
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: John Fliciano, the guy who's now with the Giants, last

1436
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: year was a perfect example. They gotta have somebody who

1437
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: is willing to be the point of the spear and

1438
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: be some have some grit on the field. Unfortunate team

1439
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 1: gets chippy, you have guys who are who are looking

1440
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: for that. That's where not just not just tolerating it,

1441
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, let's go kind of guys. And vor

1442
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 1: he seems like he might be one of those guys.

1443
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: He is, He definitely is, and I think he's been

1444
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: like that for multiple seasons. Had we not had the

1445
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: craziness with COVID, he probably would have entered the draft

1446
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,800
Speaker 1: last year. So he came back and built on an

1447
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 1: already strong draft resume. So again that just shows kind

1448
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: of where the value is at offensive tab we'll see

1449
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: or offensive line. We'll see. These guys go in the

1450
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 1: first round, but littered throughout the entire NFL, second, third,

1451
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 1: fourth round picks that instantly come in as starters. I mean,

1452
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: Dean Dawkins was a second round pick and you can

1453
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,919
Speaker 1: be a quality player. Mitch Morse was a Day three selection.

1454
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: You can get those good players that are high floor

1455
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: guys that can ultimately grow into being quality starters without

1456
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 1: picking them in the first round. All right, let's talk

1457
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 1: about a couple of centers here, because again the position

1458
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: flex question. The Bills have an entrenched starter in Mitch

1459
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: Morris at the center spot. But if you can draft

1460
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: a center who can also play guard for you now

1461
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: and then maybe he's your center of the future. What

1462
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:42,640
Speaker 1: do we think about Minnesota's John Michael Schmidtz and Michigan's

1463
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: Ola Segan Olawa Timmy. I was practicing that this good

1464
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:50,440
Speaker 1: jobs that was perfect. John Michael Schmidtz gives you more flexibility.

1465
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: Olawa Timmy is more of that stationary phone booth blocker

1466
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 1: at center. Very powerful. I actually love him as just

1467
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 1: a classics center because he's never on the ground. His

1468
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 1: balance is unbelievable. So if you have a big if

1469
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: you're going against a big nose tackle in a given week,

1470
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 1: this guy can hand. That's him. Had he been on

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Speaker 1: the Bills when they were facing Vince Wilfork, he would

1472
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Speaker 1: have been the perfect center. Taking nothing away from Eric

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01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 1: Wood obviously did a pretty good job. That's the type

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01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: of player that Ohlawa Timmy is. John Michael Schmidt's another

1475
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 1: one crazy experience. I've said this a lot that this

1476
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: interior offensive line class is about as good as it's

1477
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 1: been in the last five to seven years because the

1478
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: COVID year, a lot of these guys stayed. John Michael

1479
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 1: schmidtz is in extremely experienced and a pretty good blend

1480
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: of power and mobility that we were talking about earlier.

1481
01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: So I think in a pinch or maybe early in

1482
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: his career, as Mitch Morrise is near the end, he

1483
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: could play guard and ultimately be your center of the future,

1484
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: kind of like when Jeff hand Gardner was here and

1485
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: Eric Wood started at guard and then kind of moved

1486
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:53,880
Speaker 1: his way over to that. Yeah, you get that. You

1487
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 1: get these guys in here, and some of the names

1488
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: when you start talking to the interior offensive line in

1489
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 1: the names that keep coming up because of their flexibility.

1490
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: Guys like Steve of Veli's like three thirty plus and

1491
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: he can play both those spots or all three of

1492
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: those spots, right guard, left guard, center, and he's big

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01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 1: and can anchor and has all that other stuff. So

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01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: that you know, that's why. To me, certainly there are

1495
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: guys who can play one or the other better than

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,160
Speaker 1: Avella could play. But man, oh man, you get a

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01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: guy that can plug into any of those spots, and

1498
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're not quite so desperate to

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: get a specific guy. And it's huge because in today's NFL,

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01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills have certainly seen this over the

1501
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: last couple of years. It's kind of a war of

1502
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: attrition along the offensive line, and suddenly you're in a

1503
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 1: big divisional matchup and you don't have your starting right guard,

1504
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: but you need to plug in your your backup center

1505
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: who's a rookie into right guard. And you don't need

1506
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: those players and maybe their secondary role to be amazing.

1507
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: They just can't be the weak link on thee. Look

1508
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: at the Look at the Cincinnati Bengals. They're rolling in

1509
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: there with their bass, their last three tackles on the

1510
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: roster into the playoff, and they were good enough and enough.

1511
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: You know, ultimately they didn't get there, but you know

1512
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were able to get him. But that's the

1513
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: kind of thing you're looking at. Last one, for me,

1514
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: the kid down the Thruway from US Matthew Bergeron. Some

1515
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to stay at tackle, but other

1516
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: people say, hey, he can also transition to guard. So

1517
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 1: there's some position flex that I would think would be

1518
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: attractive to Buffalo as well. Almost to kill two birds

1519
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 1: with one stone kind of player, because if you want

1520
01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: competition for Spencer Brown, you got Bergeron who has tackle experience.

1521
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,080
Speaker 1: And if you want to fill the hole and left

1522
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: guard with a young player that you can grow into

1523
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 1: and he can give you continuity for the next four years,

1524
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: if he's good enough to start there, what do you

1525
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: think of Bergeron? Yeah, so he's really fascinating because I mean,

1526
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on that he can play tackle

1527
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: or guard at the next level. That he kind of

1528
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: fits what the Bills have liked with that traits type

1529
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 1: of player that I think he's going to be one

1530
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: of the more athletic tackles. And then if he's got

1531
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: really light feet and he's a little bit consistent, I think,

1532
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: like in my scutting report, I've written that he has

1533
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: some wins on film that look like first round caliber.

1534
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 1: His losses look like undrafted free agent where he's off balance,

1535
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: can't find that blocker or that linebacker at the second level.

1536
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: But the Bills have really leaned toward Hey, we believe

1537
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,679
Speaker 1: in our ability to develop these players. That Gregory Rousseau

1538
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: was not a finished product in the trenches when he

1539
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: entered the NFL. That kind of feels like Matthew Bersion

1540
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,799
Speaker 1: probably in the second round. It also sounds like guard

1541
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: may be the best place for him to start, because

1542
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: if you don't want an inconsistent player out on the edge. Yeah,

1543
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: flashes ability, but then Mike get your cornerback killed. Yeah,

1544
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: all the offensive lineman is when you get out of tackle,

1545
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: there's too much space for some of these guys to

1546
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 1: handle one guy in or look keeping their eyes up.

1547
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 1: When you get him down inside a guard, there's less

1548
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: space and less there's a greater margin for error within

1549
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do because you've got a guy here,

1550
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: you got a gun on both sides you, and there's

1551
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: just not enough space to lose the guy as much.

1552
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about burs Round, if you

1553
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: watch Syracuse film, they left him on an island a lot.

1554
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I think they were very trustworthy of his athleticism. It

1555
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: wasn't always what worked out for the offense, but a

1556
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: lot of these offensive tackles. There's play action, there's our pos,

1557
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: there's chips from a tight end, there's the left guard

1558
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: helping them. They really had faith in version on to

1559
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: be that on an island tackle, which is actually pretty

1560
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: rare to see in the pre draft process. Chris, thanks

1561
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: for all the updates on the receiver class, the old

1562
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: line class. We all feel smarter because of it. Safe

1563
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: travels back to Western New York. Man, you're taking off today, right, Yes,

1564
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: thanks for having me, guys. All right, that's Chris RUPASO

1565
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: CBS Sports Draft Analyst with us. We'll take a break,

1566
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: be back with plenty more here from the NFL Combine

1567
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. It's One Bills Live presented by Klot of Health.

1568
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, here, we are wrapping

1569
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: up another busy day at the NFL Combine, Steve, And

1570
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: what better way to do it then with a little

1571
01:21:00,960 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: rendition of NFL True False, presented as always by Patron Tequila,

1572
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: Official Tequila of the Buffalo Bills. And we begin with

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01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: true False Question number one, Steve, what is it the

1574
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 1: Ravens should trade quarterback Lamar Jackson? Not this year? No, No,

1575
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: they should franchise him. No, they should. They should restricted

1576
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: franchise him. What's the name of that non ex non exclusive,

1577
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: franchise him, pay him thirty two million unless somebody jumps

1578
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 1: up and pays him that and then get two ones

1579
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: in return for him when you don't match the deal.

1580
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: So eventually you are trading him in your scenario, right, No,

1581
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: not eventually, not necessarily. I would also franchise him next

1582
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: I'd franchise him, then franchise him again next year, all right,

1583
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: So I'd I'd play it all the way out until

1584
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 1: the end. I would never guarantee him the big money contract.

1585
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: I'd always light the fire under him, and then at

1586
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: the end of that let him go. Okay, franchise him

1587
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: two years, draft his draft, his replacement. So you're saying false, okay, um,

1588
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 1: I might trade him. I might do it. I'll listen.

1589
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: I will franchise him much like you, which we're all

1590
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: expecting because the deadline from tags Tuesday. Exclusively franchise him,

1591
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: not non exclusive, non exclusive. Yeah, because I think you

1592
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: want to leave the door open. Yeah, just because you

1593
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: don't know somebody might pick up the phone and call

1594
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: you and say, hey, I'll give you two ones, and

1595
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you two twos, right, I get it. Just

1596
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: let us negotiate with a new deal. Not only that,

1597
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: he's only instead of making forty three million dollars, he's

1598
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 1: making thirty two million dollars. Yeah. Um, I would trade

1599
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,559
Speaker 1: him if I can't get anywhere with him. I mean,

1600
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 1: what's the point of trying to hold it like it's like,

1601
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: what is what's that line that Tomlin says, we want

1602
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 1: soldiers not hostages, right, volunteers, volunteers not hostages. Yes, if

1603
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: you if you can't get the guy to talk turkey

1604
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: with you when you're too far apart, Yeah, I mean

1605
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: as Lamar is super talent, Yes he is. I think

1606
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: there are limits to his game. He still can't throw

1607
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: outside the numbers with any kind of regularity or consistency.

1608
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 1: We've heard some interesting things about how he prepares for

1609
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: games here this week from some people in the know. Yeah,

1610
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get into that because

1611
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: that could be sour grapes, that could be poisoning the water. Yeah,

1612
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 1: I get it. Who poisoned the water hole? I don't

1613
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: know why I'm channeling hole. That's right. There's a snake

1614
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: in my boot y. Yeah, I think that I would

1615
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 1: be open to trading him. Is he a top ten

1616
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league? Yes? Is he in top six

1617
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in this league? No? No, I don't think he is.

1618
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: So now go find me somebody as good or better. Yes,

1619
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: that's a difficult thing, which is probably why the Ravens

1620
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: are waiting until the eleventh hour to try to strike

1621
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: a deal with him. But yeah, I would trade him,

1622
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: might say? True? All right, So NFL true falls number two.

1623
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: The new Pro Bowl format will be here to stay.

1624
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 1: Flag football, um skills, child, rock 'em, sock 'em robots.

1625
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: What else did they play out there? Dodgeball, dodge falls, cornhole.

1626
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: It's five important rules to dodgeball. You must dip, duck, dive, dodge,

1627
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: and dodge. He say dodge twice? He did? Um, you

1628
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: remember that from Dodge? I missed that movie. I could

1629
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: watch that over and over. Yes, that that format's here

1630
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: to stay. They ain't going back. I went back. Somebody

1631
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: tweeted the highlights, like a fifteen minute video the highlights

1632
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: of a nineteen ninety three Pro Bowl, And there was

1633
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 1: some bunch of there's Hall of famers all over the field.

1634
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 1: It looked like a playoff game. I mean they're getting there,

1635
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: hitting guys after the whistle, the guys are quarterbacks are

1636
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: running out. I mean it's it was crazy. Uh And

1637
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: it was a close game, win overtime and a Pro Bowl. Yeah,

1638
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: that's how different it was. So yeah, I think it's

1639
01:24:57,680 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 1: here to stay. I don't think it's ever. I tend

1640
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: to agree I will stay true as well. NFL true

1641
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: false Number three quarterbacks Sam Howell will be the twenty

1642
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: twenty three starter for the Commanders. True or false? No false.

1643
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: It's the plan right now, right like they cut Carson Wentz,

1644
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: they were Heineke, of course they were going to cut

1645
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: Carson wins Well. Yeah, Taylor Heineke. I think they saw

1646
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: enough of him over the last two years. I mean

1647
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: he's look that guy's a gamer, won him a playoff

1648
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: game two years ago. But I think this past year

1649
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: you really saw an extended action his limitations. Taylor Heineck's

1650
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: a great backup. I'd sign him for the Bills as

1651
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 1: a backup. But yeah, I think they really want to

1652
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 1: see what they have in Sam Howell, and look at it,

1653
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: They've cleared the deck for him. So I think they

1654
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: at least try it now. If it goes up in

1655
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: smoke like a smelly tire fire, sure they'll make a

1656
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 1: change in October. I just hope they got somebody else

1657
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: to turn to by that. But I think it's true.

1658
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna try to make it work. The

1659
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: level of success. I gotta be honest with you. I

1660
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: couldn't pick Sam Howell out of a lineup. I bet

1661
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 1: you couldn't. But you know no one well. I know

1662
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: it's commanders too, but Ron Revere is at the helm.

1663
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna go in with a half

1664
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: a plan. That's what I think Sam Howell is. They're

1665
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: gonna have some They're gonna bring in some competition for Howell,

1666
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 1: and anybody they bring in, given what we know about

1667
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: how Is gonna be in competition with him, because there's

1668
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: every chance that they could be better. So I and

1669
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that Sam Howe is gonna be good enough.

1670
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: I don't trust that he'll be good enough to hold

1671
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: off all comers in the Washington locker room. So yeah,

1672
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I'm gonna say false. It's hard to

1673
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: be a starting quarterback in the NFL. And yeah, I

1674
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna say false, all right, that is NFL

1675
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 1: true as presented by Patrone Tequila, the official tequila of

1676
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Steve, We've got defensive linemen and linebackers

1677
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 1: on the field today. Daniel Jeremiah put out his top

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Speaker 1: ten players on the field today. Tyree Wilson, I don't

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Speaker 1: think is participating due to that foot injury that he had. Guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested in seeing Lucas van Ness, the edge rusher

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Speaker 1: from Iowa, Nolan Smith, the edge rusher from Georgia, and

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Speaker 1: Derek Hall, the edge rusher from Auburn, who by all

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: accounts had a very strong Senior Bowl week in January.

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 1: Be interesting to see what these guys test out as

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson, obviously the Alabama pass rushers, considered one of

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Speaker 1: the best in the class two. Be interested to see

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Speaker 1: what these guys do. Some people are even saying that

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Speaker 1: edge kid from Clemson, Miles Murphy, is going to test

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Speaker 1: out of the gym. As we were talking with Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah earlier this week, that there is there is some

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Speaker 1: fascination with the freakiness of athleticism that we are about

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01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: to watch us here over these next several days. It's

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Speaker 1: interesting to you. You don't realize that we show up

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Speaker 1: here on We showed up on Monday night, got in

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Speaker 1: here on Tuesday, and we've been walking around. We've been saying,

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Speaker 1: hid all the media people, we know, all the friends

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Speaker 1: of the show we've been having. We've got all these

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Speaker 1: guests on all the way. Today the guys show up.

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Speaker 1: I'm walking down the hallway and a D lineman are

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01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: starting to mill around. Holy cow, there's a guy with

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01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 1: an eighty six inch wingspan. Yeah, there are these guys.

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01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: Are why do you start with a D lineman? And

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01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 1: they are It's like that's where we're starting. I mean,

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01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's like literally, it's like going to a zoo.

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01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 1: These guys are so big. It's like it's like a

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01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: herd of livestock walking around. They're so big. They're freakishly big. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they I think it's Miles Murphy who's got

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01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 1: the eighty six inch wingspan, the Clemson edge Rusher and somebody.

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01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: He was at the podium the other day. Somebody said, hey,

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: can you just outstretch your arms for us? So you

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01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: know that table that they've got there, it's like a

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Speaker 1: seven foot table. He puts his arms out. If it's

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Speaker 1: end to end on the table, it's crazy, all right.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be great that they start their workouts

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Speaker 1: start this afternoon. They're going on right now and uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'll update some of the top performers from today

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Speaker 1: and have that for you tomorrow. Full slate again tomorrow, Steve,

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01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 1: and we're finishing with a bang. We've got our colleague

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01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: Maddie glab ESPN's Matt Miller and who else will we

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Speaker 1: finish with on a Friday? Then NFL Films, Greg Costell,

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Speaker 1: we'll see tomorrow at one