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Speaker 1: Oh, good morning, welcome in here as we get you

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Speaker 1: all set for another studley weekend of college football action.

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Speaker 1: We've got what number five I you against number two

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Speaker 1: Ohio State. That is the headlining act right there, big

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Speaker 1: noon kickoff here on Fox. You know this is the

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Speaker 1: crazy thing is I'll start surface level with you with

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Speaker 1: Indian Good morning to you, guys. Huh Rich, good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning morning. It's been a twenty nine game losing

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Speaker 1: streak for the Hoosiers against Ohio State. The last time

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Speaker 1: Indiana beat Ohio State the year was nineteen eighty eight. Okay, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's the same year Notre Dame won the national championship

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Speaker 1: for the latest time. If it's been a long time,

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Speaker 1: been a long time. So that's one thing that's against

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Speaker 1: the Hoosiers today. Obviously, they're way better this year than

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Speaker 1: any other year in program history, and they have that

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Speaker 1: on their side. But let me throw this question at you,

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Speaker 1: because we've been hearing throughout the week. You might have

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Speaker 1: been saying throughout the week, who is Indiana played? Though? Right,

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Speaker 1: it's the ultimate Yeah, but where if you say, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: they've had a great year. Yeah, but who have they beaten? Hey,

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Speaker 1: they're really efficient? Yeah, but who have they played?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 6: Is it possible that's a.

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Speaker 1: Good thing because we're just looking at the downside, which is, man,

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Speaker 1: this is a huge step up in weight class. That

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Speaker 1: could be a very bad thing for IU. But let

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Speaker 1: me just throw out the possibility. Could this be a

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Speaker 1: good thing that the Hoosiers are hearing nothing but this

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Speaker 1: heading into the biggest game of the season, it's a

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Speaker 1: good thing.

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Speaker 5: It's a good thing because you still can play with

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Speaker 5: house money. Nobody expects Indiana to beat to beat Ohio

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Speaker 5: State today, and I know that especially Brian doesn't believe

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Speaker 5: this concept and he hears house money and he's like, oh,

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Speaker 5: get lost with all this.

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Speaker 4: And I know it.

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Speaker 5: We've been working together long enough, But I remember feeling

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Speaker 5: that way as a player. I remember feeling in certain

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Speaker 5: situauations like we really have nothing to lose here.

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Speaker 4: Now. Don't get me wrong, They're undefeated. They have plenty

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Speaker 5: But from the outside looking in, when when you think

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Speaker 5: about what the public commentary is going to be if

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Speaker 5: Indiana loses to Ohio Ohio State, there's going to be

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Speaker 5: mostly I would say, people on the outside looking in

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Speaker 5: saying yeah, see told you so, eh, you know, Indiana

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Speaker 5: was just outclassed and we.

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Speaker 4: All knew it.

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Speaker 5: If Ohio State loses to Indiana, it's completely different conversation.

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Speaker 5: So there is a pressure and a stress factor that's

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Speaker 5: on one team that isn't on the other. And that

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Speaker 5: team that the pressure's really on is Ohio State.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the road environment is the most interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: The three true road games for Indiana this year have

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Speaker 8: So they haven't played anybody, right, but they have faced

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Speaker 8: Big Ten competition. We've seen Ohio State play Big ten

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Speaker 8: But I think it's the road environment that intrigues me

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Speaker 8: Indiana will have moments where you're like, oh, wow, yeah, no,

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Speaker 8: they're they're they're legit. But my question is when they

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Speaker 8: face that adversity. And I've been I've been to this date,

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Speaker 7: One hundred thousand people shut up so fast.

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Speaker 8: Can Indiana have those moments that silences the crowd, settles

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Speaker 8: They haven't trailed a whole lot this year. They haven't

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Speaker 1: Now we will do a cannonball into these IU Ohio

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: But let me throw this at you as well, because

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for this game too. We've got number sixteen

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Speaker 1: Colorado at Kansas. And right now, Colorado is a two

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Speaker 1: and a half point road favorite. It's a neutral site,

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Speaker 1: because you could play this game a bit with Colorado.

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Speaker 1: You could say, hey, who has I you beaten? Who

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Speaker 1: is Colorado beaten? They've beaten a bunch of cream puffs,

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Speaker 1: they have. They haven't beaten anybody. But the question is

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Speaker 1: Like, if Colorado wins this game, we're still gonna say

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Speaker 1: even though Kansas, I'm sorry, even though Colorado hasn't beaten

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Speaker 1: Kansas drops to four and seven, you're not leaving this game, sat, Well, well,

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Speaker 5: Well, well, they kind of need to. And here's the

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Speaker 5: Nobody cares. When you have two of the best in

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Speaker 5: to win and to win. Now, this defense is much improved. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: much the same as it did last year. You know, high,

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Speaker 4: Neutral site, all the pressures on Colorado.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it really is if if they trip up here,

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Speaker 5: like you said, beating Kansas isn't going to tell everybody

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Speaker 5: the argument pile that Deon Sanders is a good college coach,

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Speaker 5: that Deon Sanders knows how to run a program, and

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Speaker 8: Yeah, at this time, I think because of the Big

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Speaker 8: Just like we heard the Raiders here in town say,

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Speaker 8: He's a unicorn. He deserves to win the Heisman. It's

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Speaker 8: Without Shador Sanders, Colorado's right there. There are two or

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Speaker 8: and he's had a sensational season. I think another interesting

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Speaker 8: you know, this game being an Arrowhead. I think Kansas

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Speaker 8: controls the tickets just like Notre Dame Army today, you

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Speaker 7: So we'll see what the split is at Arrowhead today.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, this is this is a tight number, Like

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Speaker 8: This is a two and a half point spread. It's

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Speaker 8: in the market. They were overvalued probably coming into the year.

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Speaker 8: They started rough, and they've been playing really well lately,

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Speaker 8: to be a tight game. I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 7: A hell Mary to beat Baylor. So we'll see.

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Speaker 1: I want to play your game. Let's play a little

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Speaker 7: Could go either way.

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Speaker 4: Next time, they've clinched, they're in. They're done yet, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Number two right now, as far as seating goes, that

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Speaker 1: just don't see a realistic possibility where they're not in

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't really see a possibility where they're

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Speaker 5: I think they've done enough beat enough quality opponents to

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Speaker 4: There are teams that and there are good teams.

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Speaker 5: There's teams in the top four that if they lose

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Speaker 5: I don't think Texas is one of those teams. I

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Speaker 7: It's an interesting one.

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Speaker 8: I think they're in, but when you look at their

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Speaker 7: Right, A and M playces xas. It's crazy, It.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I think Georgia would be.

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Speaker 8: But then again I don't because then it would be

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Speaker 5: Right, many two loss teams again, I mean, don't be wrong.

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Speaker 6: They're three right now, So that's what I mean.

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Speaker 7: I'm possible.

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Speaker 6: Would have to get freaking It would have.

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Speaker 7: To be an absolute waxing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, they would have to get beat bad.

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Speaker 5: That's the reason why I legislated as pop well, but

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Speaker 4: Now Miami nine and one.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, isn't it crazy when it's the number, it's

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard. Let's put it this way. It's hard

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Speaker 7: It's not happening.

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Speaker 7: You know that it's not it ain't a sure thing.

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Speaker 4: That's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Miami absolutely has to win out otherwise they

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: Here's a good one. So they're ranked number twelve. Boise

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Speaker 7: For shaky ground?

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Speaker 1: They've got Wyoming today, They've got the Beaves next week,

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Speaker 7: How about those words that that Rich just uttered. They're

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Speaker 7: That's how ridiculous this College of Ball playoff seating is.

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Speaker 5: Again, Boise State, they cannot afford a whoopsies, so they

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Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter in what form or fashion. If

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say the ground shaky for Boise just

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Speaker 5: they're having the special season they're having, and it comes

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Speaker 8: It's a great metaphor for a team named the Broncos

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Speaker 8: odds are it's going to be Boise. Colorado boys are

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Speaker 8: gonna be a big favorite in that game. They haven't

439
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Speaker 8: played Colorado State yet this year, though, so that is

440
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Speaker 8: that is an interesting one. I think Boise's on solid ground,

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Speaker 8: but just because of the quality of opponent that they face,

442
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Speaker 8: not because that they can slip up and still get in.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I would push back on the Mulligan

444
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Speaker 1: thing is the conference championship games. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Like, say, Ohio State is there?

446
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they win today, they face Oregon in the Big

447
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Speaker 1: Ten title game. If they lose against Oregon, I think

448
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Speaker 1: they're still in right. I think a couple of these

449
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Speaker 1: teams that might lose in their conference championship game, they

450
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Speaker 1: still might find their way into the playoffs. I think

451
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Speaker 1: losing in the regular season would That's The mochampionship.

452
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Speaker 8: Games are going to be very interesting this year, especially

453
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Speaker 8: the SEC. How teams handle them, what the vibe is

454
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Speaker 8: for the games, it's going to be because I don't

455
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Speaker 8: think the committee really thought.

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Speaker 7: This whole thing through about the thirteenth game.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty crazy right where.

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Speaker 1: Man, if you're one of these SEC teams, say you're

459
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Speaker 1: Old Miss and you don't make it into the conference

460
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Speaker 1: championship game, I think Ole Miss is in a great spot.

461
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Speaker 1: They're at Florida, they faced Mississippi State next week, and

462
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Speaker 1: the Egg Bowl in Mississippi State is freaking terrible here today,

463
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Speaker 1: Fred Smooth, our guy, close your ears on that one, right,

464
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Speaker 1: But if Old Miss doesn't make the conference championship game

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Speaker 1: and a two loss SEC team makes it instead of them,

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Speaker 1: and that two loss team becomes a three loss team,

467
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Speaker 1: then what right Like Old Miss is like, hey, we

468
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Speaker 1: haven't lost three games, and the team that just lost

469
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Speaker 1: is like, yeah, but you didn't make it to the

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Speaker 1: conference championship game. We did, why do we get pedalized?

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Speaker 5: So so the way I look at it, Oregon sturdy ground.

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Speaker 5: If we're going to look at a sturdy not sturdy

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Speaker 5: Ohio State, Indiana kind of in the same boat, except

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Speaker 5: a loss for Indiana would put them in a much

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Speaker 5: more precarious situation than a loss for Ohio State would

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Speaker 5: against Indiana because a quality of opponent that Ohio State

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Speaker 5: is beaten versus the quality of opponent that Indiana has beaten.

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Speaker 5: If you look at let's see, if you look at

479
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Speaker 5: who Indiana has beaten, their best wins would be over

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Speaker 5: Michigan and Washington this season. So it's a much different

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Speaker 5: looking resume. But I do think with one more or

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Speaker 5: one loss, Indiana could still make a playoff. I think

483
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Speaker 5: that Ohio State obviously could. We talked about Texas, so

484
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Speaker 5: really those four teams I feel like are on pretty

485
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Speaker 5: sturdy ground. The rest of these teams, literally, the rest

486
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Speaker 5: of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Penn State, Notre Dame, Alabama, all Miss Georgia, they all

489
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Speaker 5: need to win out in the regular season. They just

490
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Speaker 5: do Miami, Boise State, SMU, BYU, who else college? We

491
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Speaker 5: were just talking about Army, Texas and all of them.

492
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Speaker 5: They need to win out in the regular season. They

493
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Speaker 5: need to win out period for them to stay in.

494
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Speaker 4: The playoff pitcher.

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Speaker 5: So there's really only shaky foundation, or it should say

496
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Speaker 5: strong foundations for like four teams in the nation. And

497
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Speaker 5: isn't it funny we expanded to a twelve team playoff

498
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Speaker 5: and we're back to talking about the top four having

499
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Speaker 5: a real path and it's a battleground from from five

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Speaker 5: through twelve.

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Speaker 7: Ohio State's an interesting one.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 8: It really is, because if they do lose this, if

504
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Speaker 8: they do lose his game today, two losses, you won't

505
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Speaker 8: be in the big the Big ten championship game. I

506
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Speaker 8: think there's a chance, a slim chance that they don't

507
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Speaker 8: get in, but it is I think even.

508
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Speaker 7: With the loss today, especially if it's a tight game,

509
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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 4: They would kind of get lumped into that.

511
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Speaker 5: To your point, Shard, that ten and two sec team

512
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Speaker 5: that we're just talking like, they'd be in there in

513
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Speaker 5: the mix.

514
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Speaker 4: I think they would emerge. But I do agree with you,

515
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Speaker 4: it would like it would.

516
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Speaker 8: You really tight games Oregon, Penn State top five teams

517
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Speaker 8: they won one, they lost one, right, and.

518
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Speaker 7: But I will say this, if they lose by two scores.

519
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Speaker 1: Today, m yeah, really interesting. Well that's the thing, man is,

520
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Speaker 1: I would love to see what the committee would do

521
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Speaker 1: if Ohio State loses today, you know, double digits.

522
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they can tell.

523
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Speaker 1: They just can't wait to drop you. You know, if

524
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Speaker 1: you get smacked pretty good, they're like, oh gosh, this

525
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Speaker 1: is Christmas.

526
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Speaker 8: More number that Indiana. I had this conversation my friends

527
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Speaker 8: all all week, what's the number that they can lose

528
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Speaker 8: by that You're like, all right, they're still in seventeen fourteen.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta get ten if they cover the spread

530
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 1: and lost by ten and it's a respectable game. I mean,

531
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Speaker 1: look to your point, Let's say it's a hard fought

532
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Speaker 1: game and Ohio State has a late touchdown and pushes

533
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Speaker 1: it to seventeen or something. It depends how it goes,

534
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Speaker 1: how it feels, but I would say ten without knowing

535
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Speaker 1: all the you know, details to agree.

536
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Speaker 8: But I think the fact that we're talking about like

537
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Speaker 8: one score determined India.

538
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Speaker 7: But that's what I mean crazy.

539
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean is, uh, we've been talking

540
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Speaker 1: about this all week is what's how close does it

541
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Speaker 1: need to be? For IU?

542
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Speaker 6: That's been the sole perspective.

543
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Speaker 1: Imagine if that's flipped around and all of a sudden,

544
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Speaker 1: Ohio State at home is losing getting blown out. I

545
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: don't either, but just say, the craziest stuff happens the committee.

546
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Speaker 1: They're not robots. They think like we do. To some degree,

547
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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, they can't wait, they can't just like

548
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Speaker 1: b Yu b Yu got dropped like a rock after

549
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Speaker 1: losing the camps.

550
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Speaker 8: The eye test on by you's been bad all year.

551
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Speaker 8: They've been hanging on by a thread.

552
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Speaker 1: That's true, but more impressive.

553
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Speaker 5: But for for Indiana, I mean again, you know when

554
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Speaker 5: you look at quality of schedule, they're big wins over

555
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Speaker 5: two six and six teams like Michigan and and why

556
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Speaker 5: like if they get their doors blown off by Ohio State,

557
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 5: the party's over. I mean, just turn out the lights,

558
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 5: let's clean up the streamers. It's been fun, you know,

559
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: but yeah, it ain't happening.

560
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Speaker 8: Indiana has looked in press even though they haven't played anybody,

561
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Speaker 8: like we watch these games. Even the bad teams compete.

562
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Speaker 8: Indiana has blown these teams out. That's I think the

563
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Speaker 8: difference in a.

564
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Speaker 1: Lot of this. It's just it's so lame that the

565
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: thinking only goes one way because it's the big brand thing.

566
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Right Like, so if it's Ohio State and Indiana, okay,

567
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: let's play it out both scenarios.

568
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Speaker 6: IU goes in there and they.

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Speaker 1: Lose pretty decisively. The committee is like that fool's gold

570
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: knew it finally face a real opponent. They got waxed.

571
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Speaker 1: They're not for real and they drop like a rock. Now,

572
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Speaker 1: if it goes the other way and IU has a

573
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Speaker 1: really impressive win against Ohio State, it doesn't all of

574
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Speaker 1: a sudden turned into whoa Ohio State? What the hell

575
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Speaker 1: you guys have the superior talent? You get waxed at?

576
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Speaker 1: It turns into why I guess I.

577
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Speaker 6: You is for real?

578
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: Here?

579
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Speaker 1: Let's let's move Ohio State down like no more than

580
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Speaker 1: two spots?

581
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Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there is. And it

582
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Speaker 5: is body of work, you know, like you said, a

583
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Speaker 5: close win over Penn State, but a win in a

584
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Speaker 5: tough environment, a close game and a loss to Oregon

585
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 5: who is you know, hands down the number one team

586
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Speaker 5: in the nation like those your reputation does precede you there.

587
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Speaker 5: But I do agree there is a standard, and you

588
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Speaker 5: could call it a double standard that these teams are

589
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Speaker 5: held to. And Indiana, they style points matter in this game.

590
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Speaker 5: They need to either keep it close or win decisively,

591
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: or win it close. It doesn't matter how they win.

592
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Speaker 5: And and this is going to be essentially a win

593
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Speaker 5: for Indiana, So keep it within a ten point margin

594
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 5: of loss and and or win and it's a win

595
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Speaker 5: for Indiana.

596
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Speaker 8: In my mind, here's the fascin anything too, Like Ohio State.

597
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Speaker 8: When I think about High State, I don't think killer instinct,

598
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 8: Like that's not the vibe of this team. They are

599
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 8: a running team first, and Will Howard can be a little.

600
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Speaker 7: Bit a little kookie out there sometimes with his ball

601
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Speaker 7: of Security.

602
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Speaker 4: Yep.

603
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Speaker 8: So I don't envision Ohio State up ten late, up

604
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 8: fourteen late, We're going in for the kill. We want

605
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Speaker 8: Indiana out of the playoff. Like, that's not how I

606
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 8: envision the game going. So I think the back door.

607
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 8: I mean, we talk about the back door and betting

608
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 8: all the time. The back door to the playoff I

609
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 8: think will be open all day for the Hoosiers. The

610
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 8: question is, as we talked about at the top of

611
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Speaker 8: the show, the environment, the intensity, the pressure. They looked

612
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Speaker 8: tight last week against Michigan. Can the eye test really

613
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Speaker 8: get you there? Or does it have to be like,

614
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 8: all right, this game could go either way, because let's

615
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 8: say Indiana is down seventeen late and they score on

616
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Speaker 8: like the last play of the game right to get

617
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Speaker 8: through the back door, Like that's not passing the eye test, right,

618
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 8: but they covered the spread. So it's just there's so

619
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Speaker 8: many variables.

620
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, just real fast on this maybe a minute.

621
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Speaker 1: Do you guys feel a little bit dirty? Where I

622
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: love the expanded playoff. I think it's been great for

623
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: the regular season. It's actually spruced up matchups. It hasn't

624
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: watered them down. We might get a couple next week,

625
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: but it's done. It's been way more good than bad.

626
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Speaker 1: But with that, I don't like this. Hey, let's keep

627
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: it close at least, you know what I mean, Like

628
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: your goal should be to win, it shouldn't be.

629
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Speaker 6: To if your IU.

630
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: Hey, let's make it respectable and we're in the in

631
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Speaker 1: the playoff, you know what I mean. That's the only

632
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: downside of this where the committee has valued maybe overvalued

633
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: respectable losses, you know. Yeah, And I hate this idea

634
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: of late IU is just like, all right, fourth quarter,

635
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: guys were down by fourteen, but let's just at least

636
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: make it close, let's go. It just feels it's all wrong.

637
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 5: It literally feels like Indiana walks into Ohio State with

638
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 5: ten points on the scoreboard already. That's the truth. Like

639
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 5: they they really they can do no wrong unless they

640
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: lose by a wide margin. That's the truth for Indiana today.

641
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of crazy, but that's the truth, and

642
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 5: I agree with you to an extent. It was still there,

643
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 5: it was just fewer teams had moments like that throughout

644
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 5: the season, so there were fewer games where you could

645
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 5: extrapolate out a loss but not a bad loss would

646
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 5: help this team.

647
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: Here.

648
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: It's now there's like several games a week down the

649
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 5: stretch of the season where we could point to and say, hey,

650
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 5: a pretty loss helps them. And that's kind of a

651
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 5: crummy thing to say.

652
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Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's but the Committee's told us that, and

653
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 8: we've talked about this. Quality losses matter more than quality wins.

654
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Speaker 8: I honestly think Indiana obviously their minds that. That's the

655
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Speaker 8: other part of this, Brian, and I think that's like

656
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 8: Kurtzignetti's not telling team, hey, let's just keep it close today.

657
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Speaker 8: Guys like like, that's not the message to his team today.

658
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Speaker 8: This is our message because we have to talk about

659
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Speaker 8: this and fill the show and really you know, entertain

660
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Speaker 8: and inform. But I think the message from kurtz Signetty

661
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Speaker 8: to his team today is just win, win the game.

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Speaker 1: I hope so, because right it is, the Committee has

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Speaker 1: valued quality losses. Just think about that. Statement. They valued

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Speaker 1: quality losses so much. That's what it's turned into. Like

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Speaker 1: college basketball. Yeah, can you imagine on the sideline in

666
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Signetti's like, all right, get in here, guys. Uh,

667
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: keep it close on three? Well two three, keep it

668
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Speaker 1: close right on? Win, win, win the freaking game, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what the goal should be, not keeping it close.

670
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Speaker 1: But there is value in keeping it close. It's crazy

671
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Speaker 1: where it is. Yeah, there is all right. We've got

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Speaker 1: Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian now coming up next the parlay platter. Huh.

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Speaker 1: We will combined our thoughts, our picks, our resources, our

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Speaker 1: bar graphs and pie charts and try to come out

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Speaker 1: with an outright underdog parlay winner for you. So we

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Speaker 1: will have that for you right around the corner. Should

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Speaker 1: we each have a say in this thing. We have

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Speaker 1: one underdog moneyline outright winner, and we'll pull it together

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Speaker 1: for a greater payout. Jared, We'll start with you.

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Speaker 8: Who do you like so when I text of the group,

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Speaker 8: Brian's response was U, Mass.

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Speaker 7: Unaware they played Georgia today on the road?

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Speaker 6: Did would hike up the odds a little bit?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Like we're looking for a payout here?

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Speaker 7: Didn't even listen. They didn't even list the money about

696
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Speaker 7: that list the money line for you? Mass and George

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Speaker 7: did it?

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Speaker 1: By the way, not to get us off track here,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, remember when Stanford led by Jim Harbaugh, beat

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and USC and Stanford was a forty ish

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Speaker 1: point dog.

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Speaker 7: Was there a money line?

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Speaker 8: Meg?

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Speaker 6: I would love to know how to look at the

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Speaker 6: money line on that game.

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Speaker 7: I'll look it up during the break.

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Speaker 8: There is a money line available for you elman road

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Speaker 8: today at Arkansas State ULM. I've been on this Warhawks

709
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Speaker 8: team a bunch this year. They need to win this

710
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Speaker 8: week or next week against Lafayette to get bowl eligible.

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Speaker 7: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 8: Next week occajun one of the best teams in the

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Speaker 8: Sunbelt eight and two overall, five to one conference place,

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Speaker 8: So odds are Monroe's best chance to get bowl eligible

715
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Speaker 8: will be this week.

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Speaker 4: And listen.

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Speaker 7: Five losses this year for.

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Speaker 8: U Monroe, two of them against SEC teams Auburn, Texas,

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Speaker 8: three losses in the Sun Belt against South al Marshall

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Speaker 8: and Texas State.

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Speaker 7: You have a combined thirteen and four record.

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Speaker 8: Translation, Monroe has played some really good loss to some

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Speaker 8: really good teams this year. Ark State's been kind of

724
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Speaker 8: walking this high wire act five to zero in one

725
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Speaker 8: score games.

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Speaker 7: I think that ends today.

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Speaker 8: I think Monroe the Warhawks on the road, get the

728
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Speaker 8: win at Arkansas date Man.

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Speaker 5: The beauty of college football is the fact that two

730
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Speaker 5: teams with the same record could look so differently when

731
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Speaker 5: you really think about them. LSU they host Vanderbilt today.

732
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Speaker 5: Vanderbilt is an underdog, but I love this dog because

733
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Speaker 5: the Commodores are having a tremendous season. They've clinched a

734
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Speaker 5: bowl game for the first time since twenty eighteen. They've

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Speaker 5: upset Alabama Kentucky, Auburn, LSU, the Arrows pointing down.

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Speaker 4: They are in panic mode and it.

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Speaker 5: Will only increase today after a loss to the Commodores.

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Speaker 4: Give me Bandy on the money line.

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Speaker 7: Man, you're strong on Bandy here? Yeah, I like it

740
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Speaker 7: for LSU man with Bryce Underwood flippings.

741
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I'm gonna take rock chalk over here.

742
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Speaker 1: Do we always mention rock chalk with the Kansas basketball team?

743
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Speaker 7: A good question.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if it's still I don't know if

745
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Speaker 8: that's only a basketball team. It's just I think it's

746
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Speaker 8: all rock chalk.

747
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Speaker 6: It is, it is, But I'm just saying we hardly

748
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Speaker 6: ever refer.

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Speaker 1: To the football.

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Speaker 7: We never used.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. It's all encompassing. It just

752
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: seems like it's for Bill self and the basketball team,

753
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: you know, but he's coining I'm gonna go a football

754
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Speaker 1: version rockschalk here, because listen, Colorado, they have a lot

755
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Speaker 1: of talent.

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00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 7: We know that.

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Speaker 6: But when you need a Hail.

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Speaker 1: Mary at home against Baylor to win, like your day

759
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: is coming, it's not too far away, and it might

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Speaker 1: be today at Arrowhead against Kansas. Kansas has been feisty

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks beating Iowa State, beating by

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Speaker 1: you on the road, and then it's a styles make

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Speaker 1: fights type thing. Kansas isn't good against the run, but

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Speaker 1: that's not what Colorado does, and Kansas has some good corners.

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Speaker 1: I think Kansas is going to keep it close. And

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Speaker 1: although Colorado's defense is better, they're going to have their

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Speaker 1: hands full today with the combination of Jalen Daniels Devin

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Speaker 1: Neil running the ball. So I think Kansas is absolutely

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Speaker 1: live in this thing. I will go with Ku.

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 8: Monroe plus one's twenty, Kansas plus one, twenty five, Vandy

772
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Speaker 8: plus two sixty. You throw that all into a parlay

773
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Speaker 8: stew seventeen to one.

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Speaker 7: Not bad, not bad at all, Chevy not bad. I'm

775
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Speaker 7: trying to find that USC stand for money line. I

776
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Speaker 7: can't find it.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was available. I wonder

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Speaker 1: because the points spread was around forty.

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Speaker 8: It was also at a time when sports betting was

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Speaker 8: not as widely available as it is now.

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Speaker 1: What was it the handshake when Pete Carroll was like,

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Speaker 1: what's your deal?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that was the beginning of the harball legacy,

785
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 8: like the real like you know the bones.

786
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Speaker 7: Harbaugh it was.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine if there was no money line available

789
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Speaker 1: they were that big of an underdog.

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Speaker 6: It's possible, possible.

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Speaker 1: All right, come it up next, man, will we get

792
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Speaker 1: another great column about this one? Oh, welcome in here.

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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday to you, as we get you set for

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Speaker 1: a full day college football action. We've got number nineteen Army.

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Speaker 1: It's number six Notre Dame. I said, seven pm Eastern

796
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Speaker 1: time over on NBC. Notre Dame favored by about two

797
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Speaker 1: touchdowns in this one. Now, remember the the old Grantlin

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Speaker 1: Rice article. This goes back to nineteen twenty four, but

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Speaker 1: you might recognize the first line of this thing outlined

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Speaker 1: against a blue gray October sky the four Horse Road again.

801
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: And I bring that up because the blue gray October

802
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Speaker 1: sky is sort of replicated in the jerseys today for

803
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They're going to be like blue gray in nature.

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00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: That's the whole theme that they're going for here. It's

805
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: the Shamrock series. They have these kind of unique uniforms,

806
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, and they had some good

807
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Speaker 1: ones throughout the year. So you have to get back

808
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: to me and let me know if you like these

809
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: new ones here, but there is a blue gray theme

810
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Speaker 1: as a tip of the cap to old Grantlin Rice

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Speaker 1: here today, and we might see a lot of running

812
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: yards for Notre Dame, lots of rushing yards. They could

813
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Speaker 1: man handle this Army defense. We know Army can run

814
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Speaker 1: the ball. So Grantlin Rice might be like, now that's

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Speaker 1: football right there. Huh. We got about five hundred combined

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Speaker 1: rushing yards in this one.

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Speaker 5: This is such a strange game to handicap. I don't

818
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 5: know what we're going to see. I don't know if

819
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Speaker 5: we're going to really know what this game is going

820
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: to be until maybe through the first quarter. Notre Dame

821
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 5: was a sixteen point favorite. I believe when the line

822
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: opened they're down a little bit from their only two points.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing.

824
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Speaker 5: The Army is undefeated for the first time being in

825
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Speaker 5: the AAC, but they've they've beaten Rice, Air.

826
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Speaker 4: Force and East Carolina are their biggest wins.

827
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Speaker 5: They have like one of the worst strengths of schedule

828
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Speaker 5: in college football. If we're going to be talking about

829
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Speaker 5: a team that could potentially, you know, make a playoff berth,

830
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Speaker 5: it's it's a bizarre game. So I this one I

831
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Speaker 5: would I would in touch you with a ten football.

832
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Speaker 5: But what I will say is any time you prepare

833
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Speaker 5: for and I have in my in my playing background,

834
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Speaker 5: prepared for an option team.

835
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Speaker 4: It scares you. It scares you, keeps you up at night.

836
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Speaker 5: Because you don't know what they're gonna do, what wrinkles

837
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 5: they're gonna add to exploit you early. And when a

838
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: team can possess the ball and control the clock and

839
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Speaker 5: shorten the game, where say they have a couple of

840
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 5: trick players that really work for them, they throw the

841
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 5: ball over your head two or three times in the game,

842
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 5: it could end up being a loss, and a miserably

843
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: embarrassing loss for a Notre Dame. So I mean, you

844
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Speaker 5: have to play, You have to key your responsibilities, you

845
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 5: have to play gap specific defense.

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Speaker 4: All of the pressure is on Notre Dame's defense today.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's obviously when you play the option. The way

848
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 8: you shut down the option is you're long, you're athletic,

849
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Speaker 8: and you have you know, those edge defenders that can

850
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 8: really get up the field and create havoc, and I

851
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 8: think Notre Dame has that.

852
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 7: It is so I was looking through my notes earlier,

853
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 7: this is.

854
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Speaker 8: A Notre Dame home game, so they control the ticket allotment,

855
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 8: so you know, the proximity to Army Stadium obviously be

856
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 8: this game being played at Yankee Stadium is close, but

857
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 8: this will feel like a Notre Dame home game.

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Speaker 7: It's crazy.

859
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Speaker 8: The Army hasn't faced a team in the top ninety

860
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Speaker 8: of the power ratings this year. Notre Dame is four

861
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 8: touchdowns better power rating wise than any other team Army

862
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 8: is faced this year, so massive step up strength of

863
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Speaker 8: schedule wise. I think the key for Army is just

864
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 8: you just have to just hang around and hang around

865
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Speaker 8: and just figure out a way to create. As Rich

866
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Speaker 8: alluded to a couple of those impact plays for Notre Dame,

867
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Speaker 8: I think you have to run it well enough to

868
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Speaker 8: force Army to stack the box the offensive line.

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Speaker 7: For Notre Dame.

870
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Speaker 8: Bay they haven't really exceeded expectations this year, is what

871
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 8: I'll say. Army doesn't create a ton of penetration defensively.

872
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 8: Their defense is designed to stay gap sound and not

873
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 8: give up the big play.

874
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 7: If you go back and watch.

875
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Speaker 8: The Army or the Notre Dame Navy game, Navy turn

876
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Speaker 8: it over like every play, and I don't think that's

877
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 8: like bryceon daily, Armies off the by he's healthy, I

878
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 8: think you know they're not gonna see as many slo

879
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 8: turnovers like Navy had in that game where the quarterback

880
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 8: was dealing with a thumb injury. He could like barely

881
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 8: grip the ball in that game. That's why he was

882
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 8: really loose with his handle. But when you go back

883
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 8: and watch that Notre Dame Navy game, like Navy had

884
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 8: to sell out to stop the run, and what that

885
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 8: did is allowed Riley Leonard, who has not had a

886
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 8: good season throwing it downfield, to have a good game

887
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 8: throwing it downfield seven to ten on throws ten plus yards.

888
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 7: So if you're.

889
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 8: Watching this game and Jeremiah Love and Notre Dame are

890
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 8: getting five six yards a pop on every run, Army

891
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 8: has to creep up and really shut that down and

892
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 8: you know, commit to the box. That's when Notre Dame's

893
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 8: offense can really get going. So that's kind of a

894
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 8: game within the game here.

895
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 7: I'm curious.

896
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 8: Obviously Army has to hit a couple of explosives like

897
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 8: that's that's a no brainer. But can they stop the

898
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 8: run without having to put nine guys in the box

899
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 8: and make Riley Leonard really make those tough decisions when

900
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 8: he's throwing it.

901
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: The crazy thing is, and you guys have alluded to

902
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: this Army strength of schedule. It's one hundred and thirty

903
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: third in Indiana. I'm like it is where it's it's like,

904
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: how many FBS schools we gotta get one thirty third?

905
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 5: What?

906
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's one thirty four.

907
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 7: I think I think there's one thirty five.

908
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: How could the strength of schedule be that low?

909
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 4: You know?

910
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy to me is let's say you play

911
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: the one hundred thirty third, the one hundred and thirty second,

912
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Like you got to play teams that are better than that.

913
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: They they have like an FCS school mixed in there.

914
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 4: What High?

915
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, they played Lehigh? That's what's Lehigh?

916
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 8: I get that higher than some of the FBS teams

917
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 8: know that they play.

918
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, but gosh, I swear, I swear, I swear.

919
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, and we've banged on Notre Dame. Strength

920
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 1: of schedule it's not fantastic either, but it's it's like

921
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: doubly better than Armies.

922
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 7: You know, think about that when they haven't won, that

923
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 7: easy place to win.

924
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: But if you're talking trash about Notre Dame strength of

925
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: schedule or lack thereof, I get it, but it's doubly

926
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: better than our Army has played No. One and uh,

927
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: that's a big step up in weight class. There's no doubt.

928
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: And I do wonder is Bryce and Daily truly healthy

929
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: because he sat out a game and then he came

930
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: back against North Texas and that was the funky fourteen

931
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: to three game, you know what I mean, Like, he's

932
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: got to be one hundred good to go for Army

933
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: to have a legitimate shot in this one. I just

934
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: don't know if he's there. Maybe he is, I just

935
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: don't know that he's there though.

936
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's what I'll say. I would say, if.

937
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 5: He's healthy, if Army can employ this kind of mixed

938
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 5: bag offense they have, they're not purely triple option when

939
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 5: their quarterback's healthy. This season, I think that this could

940
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: this could benefit them obviously because you have your your

941
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 5: better play action passer under center. But that's that's the

942
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: only real hope I give Army is and this works,

943
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: by the way, with every triple option team or team

944
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 5: that runs the option that puts those wrinkles into their

945
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: game plan against any team that they're quote unquote on

946
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: paper worse than, which I mean undoubtedly they are worse

947
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 5: than Notre Dame.

948
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: However, can they win?

949
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they can win in doing exactly what I

950
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 5: laid out earlier. You get a couple of early scores,

951
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 5: get Notre Dame chasing, get them playing a little bit

952
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: more one dimensional, and as long as you can control

953
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 5: the clock and have long sustained drive, it's almost like

954
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 5: you could outlast Notre Dame.

955
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 4: Do I forecast that happening.

956
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 5: No, not really, because I think to your point, Brian

957
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: and Jared, you made a point about the defense earlier.

958
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: This is a pretty good Notre Dame defense against the run,

959
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 5: especially a lot of the run schemes that Army will

960
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 5: will employ outside of the option. So they're favored for

961
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: a reason. It's decidedly slanted in their favor, and they

962
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: should win. But it's just a hairy game to be

963
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 5: playing late.

964
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 4: In the season. It's a tough matchup for Notre Dame.

965
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 8: Twenty one plays fourteen minutes to seal the game against

966
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 8: North Texas last week. That's what the Army drive was,

967
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 8: I mean, just an insane drive. Like you it took

968
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 8: the whole fourth quarter. Notre Dame number one in efficiency

969
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: on early downs defensively, number one in run stop right

970
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 8: like like they get into you.

971
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 7: That's what they're going.

972
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 8: I mean, they're really good in the secondary, but they're

973
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 8: also really good up front. Now, Howard Cross questionable. He's

974
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 8: probably one of the best interior alignment in the country.

975
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 8: The good news for Notre Dame is they've got a

976
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 8: lot of depth behind him. Mills has played really well

977
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 8: this year, so is Hina Jack. Heiser's, you know, the

978
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 8: signal caller in the middle for this defense. He played

979
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 8: sixty three games. It's just an immense amount of experience,

980
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 8: and I think they'll be okay with kind of sniffing

981
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 8: out the option. The big question is, again, can Army

982
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 8: get enough stops here? I honestly think that's the difference

983
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 8: in the game. I do think Army will have. It's

984
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 8: a very low total game, it's forty five and a half,

985
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 8: so I do think defense will be the vibe of

986
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 8: the game. But can Army get enough stops? Can they

987
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 8: make Notre Dame be third and six or longer and

988
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 8: not third and one, third and two like last week

989
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 8: against Uba, And they dominated that game against Uba until

990
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 8: they took their foot off the pedal late and let

991
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 8: Virginia get through the back door of the spread. But

992
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 8: they were up thirty five nothing in that game, but

993
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 8: they still struggled in third and longs one for ten

994
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 8: when facing third and five or longer. Like, that's a

995
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 8: game that they were up thirty five nothing in, but

996
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 8: they were one for ten when facing third and five

997
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 8: or longer.

998
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 7: And I don't know if they're gonna see a lot

999
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 7: of those in.

1000
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 8: This game, because they're gonna run it on first down

1001
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 8: for probably four or five yards, They're gonna run it

1002
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 8: on second down for probably four or five yards, and

1003
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 8: then they're gonna be in third and two, and it

1004
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 8: just it changes the dynamic of this game. If Army

1005
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 8: can not have to commit nine or ten guys in

1006
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 8: the box to stop the run, I think that.

1007
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 7: Is, to me, the key of this game.

1008
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: I love what the the prop bets where you scroll

1009
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: down to Army and Bryson daily and it makes sense

1010
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: his prop bet for passing yards is lower than his

1011
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: prop bet for rushing yards.

1012
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, great prop in this game. Actually, do you do

1013
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 7: you want to give it out?

1014
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 5: Right?

1015
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: Now?

1016
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 7: They score two touchdowns, Foy, I hate that. It's a

1017
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 7: terrible idea, I know.

1018
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 8: But he's done it in every game but one this year.

1019
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 8: They scored fourteen points last week. Guess who had both

1020
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 8: rushing touchdowns.

1021
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it could happen, you know, it's just me

1022
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: and my Notre Dame.

1023
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, routie.

1024
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say that might be the best

1025
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 5: You should take, Brian, because it is a little bit

1026
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 5: of a win win for.

1027
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 7: You, your happiness.

1028
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1029
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 8: Well, if he scores one touchdown and it's the game

1030
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 8: winner though.

1031
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 6: Oh, here's my question for you guys.

1032
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: So Army's rushing offense on average, we're talking three hundred

1033
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: we'll call it three thirty five. It's three thirty four

1034
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: point nine. So let's make three hundred and thirty five

1035
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: rushing yards per game. What's the number? Well, let's not

1036
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: quite prices, right, rules, just closest wins you could go

1037
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: over and still win. Okay, what do you think they

1038
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: rush for today against the Irish?

1039
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 7: Write these down? So what's the number we judge them for?

1040
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 5: All Right, I'm gonna I'm gonna say they're pretty good

1041
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: against the run. Notre Dame, I'm gonna say they're gonna

1042
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 5: have to throw it to win or to even have

1043
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: a ballgame.

1044
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say fifty.

1045
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 7: Oh wow, that is literally the exact number I was thinking.

1046
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: I swear, I swear that was the.

1047
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 7: First number that came into my head.

1048
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 4: Oh that's crazy.

1049
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 7: I'll go two twenty because I do think.

1050
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 8: I do think Notre Dame is going to shut down

1051
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 8: the run, and I think the path for army is

1052
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 8: gonna be gadgets and gizmo's with plenty.

1053
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, you know, it's a tough question because

1054
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: both of your guesses here, Okay, not quite prices right rules,

1055
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Because I would think about I would go two fifty

1056
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: one if I wanted the.

1057
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 7: Over of years.

1058
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, I think it's gonna be somewhere in that area.

1059
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll split the difference. I'll go to

1060
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: thirty five. It's somewhere right around that area.

1061
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 7: One of us is gonna win.

1062
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what happens there. Hopefully it's just two

1063
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: two yards instead of two fifty or two thirty five.

1064
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 7: I'll take the over on two.

1065
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the over on as well. Probably the

1066
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: first play is gonna be over two yards rushing. I

1067
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: would imagine on that one. Okay, we got a lot

1068
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Speaker 1: rub it in that your Virginia Cavaliers with the back

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Speaker 1: door cover against Notre Dame last that was a already

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Speaker 1: backdoor cover, my friend, that was ugly.

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Speaker 3: Goodness, guys, Frankly, it's great to be back. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: having me up. But frankly, the last thing I want

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Speaker 3: to do is talk about Virginia athletics. But I've had

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Speaker 3: to watch with the basketball team and that ridiculous first

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Speaker 3: half last week.

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Speaker 1: By the way, while we're talking about the Cavs here,

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Speaker 1: what do you think like Tony Elliott's record against the

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Speaker 1: spread when they're a big underdog like this, they're hosting

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Speaker 1: SMU today, and when you're when he's catching over a

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Speaker 1: touchdown eight to no, perfect against the spread. What do

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Speaker 1: you think about Virginia maybe playing spoiler against SMU today?

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Speaker 3: A couple of my brothers think that we have a

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Speaker 3: great shot at covering, maybe even trap game outright win.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe this didn't open up at double digits.

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Speaker 3: I think SMU should easily roll a win over Uba today.

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Speaker 7: I love this SMU team. I bet him six to

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Speaker 7: one a few weeks ago to win the ACC and

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Speaker 7: get into that game.

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Speaker 8: It's gonna be tight line. We'll come back on Miami,

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Speaker 8: but we'll get to that another time. It looks like,

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Speaker 8: based on the release I just got from our pal

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Speaker 8: John Ewing at Thatt mgm Ohouse in Indiana, two and

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Speaker 8: a half times as many tickets on that game as

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Speaker 8: any other game on the board. So I guess this

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Speaker 8: is a twofold question, a what do you need be?

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Speaker 7: Is it not the team playing Kansas or playing Colorado? Today?

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Speaker 3: It is the team playing Colorado that is a big need.

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Speaker 3: But we've had one better come and make some big

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Speaker 3: bets on some other games here. But in terms of

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Speaker 3: the big game Indiana and Ohio State. Best result for

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Speaker 3: US is Ohio State winning the game and not covering

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Speaker 3: ten and a half. So Indiana plus ten and a half,

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Speaker 3: but Ohio State money line our need there.

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Speaker 5: We were talking earlier seae miss about the college football

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Speaker 5: playoff picture, sturdy ground and shaky ground. We all agreed

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Speaker 5: that Oregon they're on the sturdiest of sturdy grounds. But

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Speaker 5: then you look at a bunch of other teams, a

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Speaker 5: collection of teams that probably need to win out Ohio State, Texas,

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Speaker 5: and Indiana. I said earlier, they feel like three teams

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Speaker 5: that could afford one loss and still make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: If you were going to take one of them off

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Speaker 5: the board, whether it be Ohio stay with the loss,

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Speaker 5: Texas with the loss, Indiana with the loss in the

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Speaker 5: regular season, which one would you say couldn't survive another

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Speaker 5: loss and make it to the postseason.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Texas. I think if Texas lose to

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Speaker 3: A and M, they're done. They wouldn't have a big

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Speaker 3: marquee win. I guess you could say Vanderbilt, but even

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Speaker 3: that ranking I thought was a little shaky to have.

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Speaker 3: But if Texas loses, they're done. I don't see a

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Speaker 3: way that they can get in with two losses and

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Speaker 3: no real big wins.

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Speaker 6: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, looking at Army and Notre Dame here tonight, I'm

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Speaker 1: curious you joke around your halfway series, but it's a

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Speaker 1: running joke about you need the team that's playing Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Do you typically need overs in Army games?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: This one's at forty five and a half. Well, what

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Speaker 1: do you need as far as the total goes in

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Speaker 1: this matchup?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an interesting one. The total's not really

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Speaker 3: too much in play yet. I think by kickoff will

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Speaker 3: really start saying something right now. It's it's actually a

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Speaker 3: pretty good book on the game, honestly, good two way

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Speaker 3: handle here. But again it's a late one, so we'll

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Speaker 3: see where we stand when the chips fall. But I'd

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Speaker 3: say Army money line, if that manages to cash, that

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Speaker 3: would have been good for the house.

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Speaker 7: Oh Army money line. That would make one person on

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Speaker 7: this show very upset.

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Speaker 1: I know Rich Rich would be in consolah because do

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Speaker 1: you guys know I got the Golden domers on the

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Speaker 1: money line, So that would just break my.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely all right, every week it seems like we have

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Speaker 8: a Vegas nose game. And what I mean by that

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Speaker 8: is the line is so weird. People say Vegas must

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Speaker 8: know something. This week it's Texas A and M at Auburn.

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Speaker 8: A and M has had essentially two consecutive bye weeks

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Speaker 8: because they had their bye week after getting blasted by

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Speaker 8: South Carolina and then last week they played New Mexico State.

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Speaker 7: But Auburn has been terrible this year.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this line is very short and continuing to get

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Speaker 8: shorter by the minute.

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Speaker 7: What is going on with A and M and Auburn today?

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Speaker 3: Auburn is a team I just can't figure out. It

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Speaker 3: seems like they're lined every week at a completely different number.

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Speaker 3: I would have had it lined up. So it's definitely

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Speaker 3: a team at the market seems to really believe it.

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Speaker 3: I know defense is really good, but I wonder if

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Speaker 3: it's a little bit too. Has A and M been

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Speaker 3: ad impressive to a lot of vetters? So yeah, definitely

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Speaker 3: a weird game there. I think we're gonna end up

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Speaker 3: meeting Auburn.

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Speaker 5: Is there is there a I guess I would call

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Speaker 5: it a head coaching stress factor that gets pushed into

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Speaker 5: the number when you're placing a number on a game

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Speaker 5: like Ole Miss Florida. I look at this game for

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Speaker 5: Billy Napier. I mean, they're now chomping at the bid

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Speaker 5: for a bull bid. If they get their six win,

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Speaker 5: they have two opportunities left. But like, is there is

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Speaker 5: there a way to factor factor in like a coach

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Speaker 5: coaching for his life kind of situation, or or does

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Speaker 5: that not get factored into the equation at all?

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Speaker 3: I'd say by this point in the week, a game

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Speaker 3: of that magnitude, it's baked in. If it's if it

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Speaker 3: matters to line, it's already baked in. You know. It's

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Speaker 3: It's not like there are betters out there who are

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Speaker 3: you know, turning their TV on it noon and being like, dude,

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Speaker 3: Vegas doesn't even know that Billy Napier needs to save

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Speaker 3: his job, or they don't even know that Florida's playing

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Speaker 3: for a bowl game right now. It's like everyone knows this.

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Speaker 3: It's it's in there. If it matters, it's in there.

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Speaker 1: By this point, Okay, Seamus, we're looking at the Seamus

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Speaker 1: Special over here? Are you going to take SMU and

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Speaker 1: lay the points against Virginia?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 1: Are you going else?

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Speaker 7: Who are Carlston Southern against Florida State?

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Speaker 4: Please? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: SMU is very tempting. I feel almost obligated to throw

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Speaker 3: out Indiana plus ten and a half for my dear

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Speaker 3: friend Scott in Indiana and alumni there. I'm actually wearing

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Speaker 3: the candy stripes today, oh wow, before the game in

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Speaker 3: support of my friend Scott. But no, we're going to Harvard,

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Speaker 3: Yale at Harvard at Harvard today. We're taking Harvard minus

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Speaker 3: five and a half. Where you can get it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Harvard minus five and a half than

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Speaker 1: Mark Yale. What's the quick breakdown on that one? Why Harvard?

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Speaker 1: Is this a Yale fade or a pro Harvard backing?

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Speaker 3: It is really not a big handicap. I think Harvard

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Speaker 3: is way better than Yale. That's that's all it is.

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Speaker 6: Hey, sometimes works best.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, we're the number good up to seven on

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Speaker 3: my ratings.

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Speaker 1: There you go, very nice. All right, we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they come through for you. Seamus. All right, man, Hey,

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Speaker 1: great stuff is always Seamus enjoyed the day. We'll catch

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Speaker 1: you soon, Bud.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, I'm a going you too.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: He is seamous Gee, team lead of Sports Trading at

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Speaker 1: bet MGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Campdown to Kickoff,

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Speaker 1: presented by BETMGM. Rich you threw this game? Out to

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Speaker 1: Seamus ole Miss at Florida yep and man. As far

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Speaker 1: as solid ground goes, I have a hard time not

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Speaker 1: seeing ole Miss in the playoff, right. I think they're in.

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Speaker 1: They got Florida today in just an hour and a

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Speaker 1: half and then they have Mississippi State and that's probably

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Speaker 1: it and they're probably in the playoff. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna sneak into the SEC championship game. The thing

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Speaker 1: that I look at, this Florida defense is so banged

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Speaker 1: up and they are ripe for the pickens. We're talking

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Speaker 1: about how you know your deficiencies against good teams can

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Speaker 1: be exploited Florida secondary, their corners are banged up. Ole

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Speaker 1: Miss getting Trey Harris back, they can absolutely dice up

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Speaker 1: this Florida secondary and I expect that to happen. And

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Speaker 1: the cherry on top here. Last week Florida against LSU,

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Speaker 1: so Florida won the game. LSU had the ball for

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Speaker 1: nearly forty two minutes in that game. So think about that.

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Speaker 1: You've got a banged up defense who was on the

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Speaker 1: field for most of the game against LSU, and now

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with Jackson Dart and that old Miss offense

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Speaker 1: that is yikes for Florida.

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Speaker 7: I think they get rolled today.

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Speaker 4: I agree, I think that. Look.

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Speaker 5: I mean since their bye week, Old Miss has been juggernauts.

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Speaker 5: They really have been Oklahoma, Arkansas, Georgia. Those three wins,

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Speaker 5: their margin for winning was to combine sixty two points.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they've been on fire, not only offensively. You

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Speaker 5: mentioned the offense being just unstoppable force with Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 5: He's been wonderful through this recent stretch, but also their defense,

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Speaker 5: their edge rushers specific they've lived in the offensive backfield

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Speaker 5: of any team they've played against. They are truly one

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Speaker 5: of those teams that are penetrating and playing beyond the

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Speaker 5: line of scrimmage, and so it forces a lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 5: It forces a lot of early throws. You know, this

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Speaker 5: creates turnover opportunities. Ole Miss is playing their best football.

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Speaker 5: When you hope to see your team playing their best football,

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Speaker 5: which is down the stretch of the season. They have

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Speaker 5: caught fire, and I don't think they look back today

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Speaker 5: against Florida.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there are some coaching familiarity in this game which

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Speaker 8: always could muddy the waters a little bit. Napier and

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Speaker 8: Kiffin they coached on the Bama staff together for three

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Speaker 8: years back in twenty fourteen through sixteen. I'm always fascinated

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Speaker 8: by especially on Bamas staff like those that's high level

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Speaker 8: coaching right there. So I'm always curious, and I know

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Speaker 8: a lot's changed since then, but these guys obviously know

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Speaker 8: each other, they.

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Speaker 7: Know they know the SEC very well.

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Speaker 8: And I'm always interested to see kind of the cat

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Speaker 8: and mouse game that goes on when you when you

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Speaker 8: have coaching familiarity.

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Speaker 7: But Rian, you absolutely nailed it.

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Speaker 8: Like that was like the second line of my notes,

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Speaker 8: right after the coaching familiarity. It was LSU just owning

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Speaker 8: time of possession last week, ninety three plays on.

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Speaker 7: Offense that Florida defense was on the field for.

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Speaker 8: And the reason why that matter is even more this

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Speaker 8: week is Ole Miss loves to run tempo. Top ten

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Speaker 8: in tempo this year, just twenty three seconds per play,

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Speaker 8: like they get right up to the lion of scrimmage

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Speaker 8: and they are right on the ball again. Jackson Dart

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Speaker 8: has been fantastic this year. And I'm gonna say it

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Speaker 8: right now, hit the record button on this stick. I

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Speaker 8: don't know if they're gonna win the championship this year

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Speaker 8: because I think matchups and the bracket matters and where

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Speaker 8: you play and all that's gonna matter. But I think

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Speaker 8: All Miss, pound for pound, is the best team in

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Speaker 8: the country.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 7: I think they have the best defense in the country.

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Speaker 8: There is an NFL caliber player pretty much every defensive.

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Speaker 7: Front seven position on this Ole Miss team.

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Speaker 8: It is insane the depth and just how nasty they

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Speaker 8: are defensively, like they will ruin your day. Number one

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01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 8: team in sacks havoc, all of those statistics top five

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Speaker 8: across the board. And the thing that scares me for

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Speaker 8: Florida's defense in this game obviously the fatigue factor. But

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Speaker 8: Jackson Dart is elite at play action and it's kind

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01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 8: of it's that's how you set up like, that's like

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01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 8: the trick when we talk about NFL high caliber. NFL

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01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 8: offense is the best ones run motion and play action,

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Speaker 8: and Jackson Dart has six hundred more passing yards off

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Speaker 8: play action than any other quarterback in the country this year.

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Speaker 8: So I think if Ole Miss, if the game script

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Speaker 8: goes where the spread is leaning, which is Ole missed

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Speaker 8: by a touchdown plus, and it's oh, we're gonna run it,

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01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 8: run it, run it, and then it's play action, and

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Speaker 8: then there's Harris and there's Lee and all these elite.

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Speaker 7: Speed guys on the outside.

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Speaker 8: It could be one of those games where Ole Miss

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Speaker 8: just you know, distances themselves very early.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, Florida. They've actually done a decent job

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: here lately where you looked at that scale and you're like,

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Speaker 1: my lord, how many wins are they gonna have? And

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01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: now they're on the doorstep of being Bowl eligible. It's

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01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: better than the way the season started, and where they

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: are right now. I think it's better than most would

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01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: have anticipated. But it does feel to me at least

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01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: like the storm. The storm is due at any time now,

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01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: and I think it could start at twelve noon Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: Again's old missed now, Jared, you mentioned this game to

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01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: Seamus as well.

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Speaker 6: Texas A and M at Auburn.

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: And the line Auburn is only a point and a

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01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: half underdog right here, So think about Texas eight and two,

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01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: Auburn is four and six. They're weird, they stink, they

1346
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: make horrible decisions, they fall apart at the worst time,

1347
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 1: like the loss against Oklahoma was just obnoxious earlier this season.

1348
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: But yet such a short, short favorite that Texas A

1349
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: and M is is this a look ahead spot?

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01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 6: This is something you have to keep in mind.

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01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: So, Texas A and M, they've got Texas next week

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01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: and they're trying to gear up for a four and

1353
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: six Auburn team tonight. And Texas A and M head

1354
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 1: coach Mike Elko, he was asked about this and this

1355
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: is what he had to say.

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Speaker 7: This is beautiful.

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01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: It's my favorite audio of the entire college football season.

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01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 7: I think our focus is is single handling on Texas.

1359
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 7: I'm in on Auburn right now and locked in on

1360
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 7: what we got to get done.

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01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: Woops, oops, I'll tell you we're locked in on the

1362
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: Texas Longhorns. I'm sorry, I meant the Auburn Tigers because

1363
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: that's the phone. Yeah, that's a that's a giant slip

1364
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: of the tongue right there. So yeah, a little bit

1365
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: of a fo Yeah, yeah, it could be a real

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01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: thank you clip. Yeah.

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01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 5: Well, when when you're asked a question like that, when

1368
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 5: you're asked a question that that is literally telling you

1369
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 5: the answer before before it's asked, like they're they're saying, hey,

1370
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 5: you got a major game coming up, but you got

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01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 5: this one in.

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01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 1: Between are you sure you guys aren't looking ahead?

1373
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 5: And then you go ahead and talk about the game

1374
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 5: coming up and said the game you're about that, I mean,

1375
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 5: it does stink, but easy place to get tripped up. Look,

1376
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 5: it's no secret that that game looms large in the

1377
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 5: very near distance, but it won't carry the same weight

1378
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 5: or wait if they don't get it done against Auburn.

1379
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 5: And Mike Elko knows that his staff knows that, the

1380
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 5: problem is do all the players know that?

1381
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 4: And that is always the problem, right.

1382
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 5: There are certain times in my playing career where you did,

1383
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:44,320
Speaker 5: in fact look past certain opponents where you felt, we're

1384
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 5: just better than these guys, and there's no other way

1385
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 5: to explain it. There's no way we can lose this game.

1386
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 5: And it's rare that you lose those games when you

1387
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 5: do feel that way. But in the times you do,

1388
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: there are those moments following them where you say to yourself, boy,

1389
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 5: we should have taken that more seriously. And those are

1390
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 5: the lessons that if you're Mike Elko, or if you're

1391
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 5: anyone on that stuff, you can't have your players learning

1392
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 5: the hard lesson they have to take the coaching, they

1393
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 5: have to take their medicine. They have to prepare the same,

1394
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 5: they have to practice the same, They have to.

1395
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 4: Be the same team they've been.

1396
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 5: Otherwise you could step in the bear trap and then

1397
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 5: the Texas game does not matter anymore, and that should

1398
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 5: be the focus. You want this next game to be

1399
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 5: the most important game. It won't be, I promise you.

1400
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 5: If we lose to the Auburn Tigers.

1401
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: Man and it's is. This is the stinky line of

1402
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: the week for sure. Texas A and M favored by

1403
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 1: a point and a half. Again, Texas A and M

1404
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 1: is eight and two, Auburn is four and six, and

1405
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: yet A and M is just favored by a point

1406
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: and a half. That one stinks to the high heavens.

1407
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:53,719
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. It might be an obvious answer.

1408
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 1: I think you alluded to it. But next week, you

1409
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: know Texas taking on A and M. What is Texas

1410
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: want in this game? Rich really? Because I think most

1411
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: likely the answer would be you want Texas A and

1412
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: M to lose, and then next week against Texas, the

1413
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: Longhorns would be facing an opponent that knows their playoff

1414
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: hopes are dead. But you could make an argument that

1415
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: sometimes makes teams more difficult to deal with because it's

1416
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: a rivalry game. I have a hard time even if

1417
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 1: A and M somehow loses to Auburn, I don't think

1418
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: they'd be dead against the Longhorns. That's the last game

1419
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: of the season. It's Texas. You have a chance to

1420
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: ruin their dreams and you could let it all hang

1421
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: out if your playoff hopes have ended as well. If

1422
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: you're Texas, do you want A and M to win

1423
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: or lose tonight against Auburn?

1424
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 5: Well, I would answer this question more broadly and say

1425
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 5: you want whatever scenario is gonna make it for an

1426
01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 5: easier day when they face you, right so you know,

1427
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 5: so if that is in fact a loss where they're

1428
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 5: you know, I mean maybe it's even a loss and

1429
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 5: humilion humiliation.

1430
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 4: Where they lose by a lot to Auburn, I.

1431
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 5: Don't know if that would help you because maybe that

1432
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 5: they want the bounce back game. So whatever loss stings

1433
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 5: the most where they're going to be licking their wounds,

1434
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 5: that could affect them lurching into the Texas game. That's

1435
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 5: what you're hoping for, whatever type of game that looks

1436
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 5: like I'm hoping for.

1437
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 6: An Auburn walkoff field goal.

1438
01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 5: If it's something like that, right, something like that right

1439
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 5: where they kept a close all game. More importantly, this

1440
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 5: is what I'm hoping Auburn, if I'm Texas again, if

1441
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 5: I'm anybody affiliated with the Longhorns program, what I'm hoping

1442
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 5: is this to be a slug fest, two or three

1443
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 5: overtime slug fest, win or lose. I mean, it just

1444
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 5: has to be a knockdown, drag them out, physical football

1445
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 5: game where you have an A and M team coming

1446
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 5: into the rivalry game, the final game of.

1447
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: The season just feeling awful.

1448
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 5: Are the best matchups for you when you're you know,

1449
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 5: a powerhouse or a team with a bright future because

1450
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 5: you're you're you're hoping to have an easier draw against

1451
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 5: the competition you know is gonna be up to play

1452
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 5: against you.

1453
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. All right, we'll see how that

1454
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,799
Speaker 1: all shakes out. But man, stinky, stinky, stinky.

1455
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 5: So this is a stay away game. I don't know

1456
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 5: if you have anything on this. I would, I couldn't,

1457
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 5: I won't. There's no chance.

1458
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: Well I was just gonna say that the Vegas Nos

1459
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: games right, like Vegas knows they they have known the

1460
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: last few right where Kansas was involved last week against BYU.

1461
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: There have been a couple of really stinky lines and

1462
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: you're like, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense, and

1463
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: then the game is played and you're like, huh, that

1464
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: did make sense. We've got rich O Honberger, Penn State

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Speaker 2: Prop it up player plays.

1487
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, prop bets, prop bets galore shared. We start

1488
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Speaker 1: with you.

1489
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 4: What are you like?

1490
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's go to this Ohio State Indiana game.

1491
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 8: Justice Ellison and I think Ohio State is going to

1492
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 8: be very feisty against the run today. The leading rusher

1493
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 8: for Penn State in their game against the Buckeyes this year.

1494
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 7: Was Tyler Warren. Here's the problem.

1495
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 8: He plays tight end and Ellison has not really had

1496
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 8: the hot hand lately. Nine carries for seventeen yards last

1497
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 8: week against Michigan nine for thirty two the prior week

1498
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 8: against Michigan State. And I know Michigan's defense is okay

1499
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 8: Michigan State, eh, So big step up in class here

1500
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 8: against this Ohio State defense. One hundred and twenty carries

1501
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 8: for Ellison this season. So there's a little trend on

1502
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 8: the tires here. That's the most he's had in twenty

1503
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 8: two when he played in the ACC. Much different animal

1504
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 8: in the Big ten grind every week, and I am

1505
01:15:56,400 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 8: my full confidence that Kurtzignetti will ride the hot hand here. Actually,

1506
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 8: Tyson Lawton, the other back for Indiana, was the hot

1507
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 8: hand last week twelve for fifty five. So I think

1508
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 8: Ellison's kind of fading a little bit.

1509
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:08,600
Speaker 7: Lawton coming on.

1510
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 8: I say, under thirty eight and a half rush yards

1511
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,560
Speaker 8: for Justice Ellison.

1512
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 5: Okay, Indiana. Ohio State. Let's take a look at the quarterback.

1513
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,840
Speaker 5: So Curtis Rourke.

1514
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 4: He's a pretty talented quarterback in.

1515
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,480
Speaker 5: A system that just wins. Go ahead and google him.

1516
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,799
Speaker 5: But he's been held under this two hundred and twenty

1517
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 5: five and a half passing yards twice this season, once

1518
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 5: against Michigan, once against Nebraska. This Ohio State defense is legit.

1519
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 5: They were able to keep Aller when they played Penn

1520
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 5: State to one hundred and forty six yards through the air.

1521
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 5: Their top ten in coverage. They limit explosives. I'm gonna

1522
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 5: take Curtis Rourke under the two hundred and twenty five

1523
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 5: and a half passing yards.

1524
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,480
Speaker 1: Two guys undertakers.

1525
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 7: I love this. Uh huh let me add a little

1526
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:02,599
Speaker 7: balance to this.

1527
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'll throw an over at you give me

1528
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame quarterback Riley Leonard over fifty five and a

1529
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: half rushing yards. I think Notre Dame's gonna run crazy

1530
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: on Army. I think they're gonna absolutely manhandle them in

1531
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: the trenches. And I could see Jeremiah Love going over

1532
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: as well. It's been really good for the Irish. His

1533
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: total is seventy two and a half. They might both

1534
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: go over. But the thing is, I don't know about

1535
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: you guys. I would imagine you're the same way if

1536
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: you're on a running back over and he's not the

1537
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: guy right like he's splitting carries a lot of carries

1538
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: with somebody else.

1539
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 6: I hate when that that over doesn't come.

1540
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: Through where you're like, oh shoot, I need like five

1541
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: more yards and this isn't his series at the end

1542
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: of the game, you know what I mean. Like, Riley

1543
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 1: Leonard has been really difficult for defenses to deal with

1544
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: with his.

1545
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 6: Legs better, with his arm really shaky.

1546
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: Start with the passing game, it's been better, still not good,

1547
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: but his run ability has been on display this year,

1548
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 1: and I would expect it to be on display against

1549
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 1: Army today. I'll take Riley Leonard over fifty five and

1550
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: a half rushing yards for the Irish. Now back to

1551
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: the game that you were mentioning Rich I you against

1552
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State.

1553
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 7: Well you both were.

1554
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, take in Indiana just for fun. Ohio State quarterback

1555
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: Will Howard. His rushing prop bet is at eleven.

1556
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 6: And a half yard super low, very low.

1557
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 1: We know the sacks count against quarterbacks rushing yardage for fun,

1558
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: you're going over or under eleven and a half rushing

1559
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 1: yards for Will Howard.

1560
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the over. And

1561
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 5: here's the reason why I feel like. I feel like

1562
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 5: they're not gonna have to throw the football that much,

1563
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1564
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 4: So it's gonna be a little bit of that.

1565
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 5: Hey, if it isn't there, get what you can get

1566
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 5: down type of game for Will Howard, that would be

1567
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 5: my message because the only thing that can really hurt

1568
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 5: Ohio State in this game is if Howard does something

1569
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 5: out of character like just starts throwing the football to Indiana.

1570
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 4: So I'll take the over.

1571
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think over makes sense, but my mind thinks

1572
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 8: that it's not the sacks, but it's the kneel downs

1573
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 8: that might get him in.

1574
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: The God wow at the end right there.

1575
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 7: I mean, you know how they do these stupid kneel downs.

1576
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 4: I don't think.

1577
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 6: I think it counts against you in college football.

1578
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 7: Oh that's right, only in the NFL. Yeah, that's a

1579
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 7: great yeah.

1580
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: Over over, Okay, over.

1581
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 8: I think the biggest reason why is he's not a

1582
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 8: good job getting the ball out quickly this year.

1583
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,560
Speaker 7: That actually is the Ohio State offense.

1584
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: Isn't that the worst when you're on over rushing total

1585
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,599
Speaker 1: and you're like, just throw it away at the very least.

1586
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 1: All right, we will get to the prize fight coming

1587
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 1: up next. Yes, welcome in here, less than an hour

1588
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:02,160
Speaker 1: away from kickoff, less than an hour away from the

1589
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: kickoff of the day, which would be number five Indiana

1590
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: against number two Ohio State. And listen, a lot of

1591
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: things to discuss with this matchup. We stuck our big

1592
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: right foot into the waders here in the first hour

1593
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: of the show. We're doing a cannon ball into the

1594
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: IU Ohio State waters here in this segment. And I

1595
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: don't want to bury the lead because it was in

1596
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: prop it Up, our prop bet segment last hour where

1597
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: Jared Smith just kind of calmly and slyly. I would say,

1598
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: is said, you know, Curtis Rourke, watch out for the

1599
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:41,839
Speaker 1: Neil downs.

1600
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 6: I'm like, wait, wait.

1601
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: A minute, so are you outright here today?

1602
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 7: Will Howard Neil downs? Will Howard Neil? If Curtis Rourke

1603
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 7: is is taking Neil downs today?

1604
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,720
Speaker 4: Whoa boy?

1605
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: My bad? Totally totally flip flopped all of that in

1606
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: my mind. I don't know why I.

1607
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 8: Did that, but maybe that's foreshadowing though. Maybe Hey, that

1608
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 8: would be some tell there. You know, can you imagine

1609
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 8: if that's what happens oh Man college football would be

1610
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 8: I mean, it's already been a crazy year, but that

1611
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 8: would who But here's the thing, right, how much would

1612
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 8: that shock you?

1613
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 7: I would be pretty shocked.

1614
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 4: I'd be shocked.

1615
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 7: Where are you winning?

1616
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 1: Out right? And I don't want to make Ohio State

1617
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: out to be, you know, one of the most dominant

1618
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: teams in college football history. They are certainly talented, there's

1619
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, and IU hasn't played anybody. But

1620
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean, crazier things have happened. I don't want to

1621
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 1: make it sound like it's Jim Harbaugh and Stanford winning

1622
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: as a forty plus point underdog against USC You know

1623
01:21:48,320 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, there have been plenty of crazier

1624
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: things that have happened. I would be pretty shocked about

1625
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: IU winning. But it wouldn't be like the shock of shocks,

1626
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1627
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 4: No, it wouldn't.

1628
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 5: But they are a significant underdog, double digit underdog. It

1629
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 5: would be an enormous upset, especially considering think about if

1630
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 5: Ohio State wins, how we would all react to it.

1631
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 5: It would be like, yeah, of course, And if they

1632
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 5: win by a large margin, we would say yeah, of course.

1633
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 5: It would be shocking if they won a nail bier

1634
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 5: or if they lose to Indiana, And I do mean shocking,

1635
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 5: because all of a sudden, it would flip flop. We

1636
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 5: wouldn't we wouldn't be looking at this game on the

1637
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 5: other side of it the way we're looking at it

1638
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 5: going into it, which is it's a measuring stick for

1639
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 5: Indiana to see how good they are, and depending on

1640
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 5: how how close they keep it with Ohio State in

1641
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 5: a loss, we're going to feel one way or another

1642
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 5: about Indiana.

1643
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: Now, if they should find a.

1644
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 5: Way to win, all of a sudden, it goes whoa

1645
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 5: Indiana is sustainable. They've got a real bid to potentially

1646
01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 5: win a national championship this year.

1647
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 4: Ohio State, maybe they've they've been.

1648
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 5: Mismeasured, maybe that Oregon loss early in this season. Maybe

1649
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,800
Speaker 5: they're a lot different, and they are kind of I mean,

1650
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 5: if you look at what's happened to them upfront this season,

1651
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 5: they lost their all everything left tackle, They had to

1652
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:15,800
Speaker 5: move their all conference.

1653
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 4: Guard out to left.

1654
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,799
Speaker 5: They lost their center this week at practice he ruptured

1655
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 5: his achilles. That is enormous, your superle caller on the

1656
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 5: offensive line. So if there's ever a game where Ohio

1657
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 5: State can get got, it's this one, especially against talent

1658
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 5: and track record like Signetti has and like Indiana has

1659
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 5: this season. But it still would be a shocking loss

1660
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 5: if Ohio State falls today.

1661
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, And if you go back and look at my

1662
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 8: friend Tim Murray works for one of the networks here

1663
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 8: in town, has done a good job tracking this this year.

1664
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,799
Speaker 7: The biggest upsets of the week.

1665
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 8: In college football right now, Ohio State in that ten eleven,

1666
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 8: twelve point favorite range. I think we're gonna see some

1667
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 8: Ohio State money my guess before kick here. But it

1668
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 8: wouldn't really even crack the top five of the biggest

1669
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 8: upsets in college football this year. I mean last week

1670
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 8: Stanford was a three touchdown dog beat Louisville.

1671
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:13,760
Speaker 7: Now that was a disgusting beating, really was.

1672
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 8: But even even some of the Power Conference upsets, right,

1673
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 8: we had Texas deck over Iowa State a couple of

1674
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,559
Speaker 8: weeks ago. We've had Vandy pull off multiple uh you know,

1675
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 8: double digit underdog upsets in the SEC.

1676
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,200
Speaker 7: We had Georgia Tech by Florida State and week zero

1677
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 7: I know that.

1678
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,799
Speaker 8: You know that game has kind of aged like milk

1679
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 8: for Florida State based off of where this year. But like,

1680
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:42,519
Speaker 8: like you're right, Brian, Like in our minds were like

1681
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 8: Indiana can't beat Ohio State.

1682
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 7: That can't happen. But again we've seen it. Crazier things

1683
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 7: happen this year.

1684
01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 8: Now, they've struggled to cover numbers at home as a

1685
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 8: home favorite against top five teams this century, Ohio State

1686
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 8: is not covered period as a home I'll repeat that again,

1687
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 8: as a home favorite against top five teams Ohio State

1688
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 8: and seven against the spread since two thousand.

1689
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 7: What does that have to do with this game? Nothing?

1690
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 8: My point being, the market does tend to overvalue Ohio State.

1691
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:17,919
Speaker 7: At home sometimes.

1692
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, so maybe it's not as big of a number

1693
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 8: in our minds as it really is in reality. This

1694
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 8: game probably is a little tighter in terms of x's

1695
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 8: and o's. I think Ohio State has better players, there's

1696
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 8: no doubt there, but x'es and o's wise, yeah, I

1697
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 8: could see Indiana making a few plays in staying in

1698
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 8: this game.

1699
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 7: Rich alluded to it.

1700
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 8: The offensive line has been the trouble spot this year.

1701
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 8: The McLoughlin injury is huge for multiple reasons. A. They've

1702
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 8: already had to shuffle their offensive line this year. Be Rich,

1703
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 8: I know you know this. The center calls everything up

1704
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 8: front like he is the lynchpin of the offensive line.

1705
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 7: So how they handle that pressure?

1706
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 8: And Indiana's got a couple of guys Kamara off the edge,

1707
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 8: He's got a twenty percent pressure right this year. Like

1708
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 8: they've got a couple of guys that can get into

1709
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 8: Will Howard and make this Ohio State offense a little

1710
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 8: bit uncomfortable. But to me, this is all about two things.

1711
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 8: Can Ohio State stop the run and make Indiana one dimensional?

1712
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 7: I think yes, I think that it's gonna be.

1713
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 8: This is This game will come down to Concurtis Rourke

1714
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 8: make a few throws.

1715
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 7: And keep Indiana in this game.

1716
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 8: And on the other side of the ball, can Ohio

1717
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 8: State kind of do what your big brother did when

1718
01:26:27,760 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 8: you're playing basketball against him when you're, you know, eight

1719
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 8: years old and he's fifteen. Just kind of like push

1720
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 8: your arm out and say, listen, we're bigger, stronger than you.

1721
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 7: We're gonna push you around.

1722
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 8: And Ohio State, I know, offensively up front they're a

1723
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,600
Speaker 8: little bit banged up, but they still have two I

1724
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:43,879
Speaker 8: would say, the best backs.

1725
01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 7: In the country with Henderson and Judkins.

1726
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 8: Like that's why you brought Judkins in and paid them

1727
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 8: all that money to come in from Ole miss Is

1728
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 8: because you need him for this game or you have

1729
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 8: that one two punch. So I think the running game

1730
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 8: on both sides. If Indiana can get a little bit

1731
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,200
Speaker 8: of traction in the run game and kind of own

1732
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 8: time of possession, they hell, they'll have a shot in

1733
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 8: this game. But it's gonna come down to Curtis work

1734
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 8: make it throws in Ohio State kind of managing the

1735
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 8: clock with their run game.

1736
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the things that I've got my

1737
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: eye on is I think this game comes down to

1738
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot of it is roster versus extra motivation. And

1739
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,560
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is Ohio State is just

1740
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: more talented, There's no doubt about that. But Indiana has

1741
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: the extra motivation of being doubted and disrespected. And you

1742
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: haven't played anybody. And do you think IU can keep

1743
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: it close enough to keep their tir their playoff hopes

1744
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: alive right.

1745
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 6: Like they've they've heard that all week.

1746
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:44,240
Speaker 1: That is absolutely motivating, and so yeah, that matters. But

1747
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 1: does it matter to the point where if you're just

1748
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: simply overmatched, I don't care how much you want it,

1749
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: You're just overmatched, and that might be the difference in

1750
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:52,800
Speaker 1: the game.

1751
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 7: I can't get out of my head.

1752
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: The last time we saw EU play in the second

1753
01:27:57,080 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: half against Michigan at home, they couldn't move the ball.

1754
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 1: They could not move the ball in the second half

1755
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: against Michigan. And now I'm expecting them to go into

1756
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: the shoe on the road against Ohio State and put

1757
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: themselves in a position to win this game or like

1758
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: or even keep it close. It's hard to see. It

1759
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: is so when you're stepping up in weight class. This

1760
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,799
Speaker 1: Ohio State offense as much talent as they have. You're

1761
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: talking about a top ten offense easily. IU hasn't faced

1762
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: a top sixty offense. So that step up in weight

1763
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 1: class is real. And listen, it might be you know,

1764
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what the right word is. It might

1765
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 1: be I don't say nullified. That's the word that keeps

1766
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: popping in my head and it's the wrong one. But

1767
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: those issues on the offensive line, with the injuries that

1768
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: can help shorten the gap. That's probably the best way

1769
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: to say it for IU. But enough, that's the thing.

1770
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: Enough when you're still out talented. I say no, I

1771
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 1: say no.

1772
01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you.

1773
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 5: I think IU would have to play a perfect game.

1774
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 5: I think Indiana would have to play a near perfect

1775
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 5: game against Ohio State where things are clicking on offense,

1776
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 5: they're having those drives that take the crowd out of

1777
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 5: the game, or they have a sudden change of possession

1778
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 5: where they get the ball back from Ohio State on

1779
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 5: a fumble or an interception and then they score.

1780
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,719
Speaker 4: You know, they start taking the crowd out of the game.

1781
01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 5: So they have to play a near perfect game defensively, offensively,

1782
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 5: and non special teams. Then also, and this is where

1783
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 5: Ohio State may help Indiana. Take a look back at

1784
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 5: a lot of these games that Ohio State has had

1785
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,520
Speaker 5: success in, even major successes.

1786
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 4: This team hurts themselves.

1787
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 5: Ohio State misses a bunch of field goals, or they

1788
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 5: commit a lot of penalties, or they'll have just self

1789
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 5: imposed issues that have haunted them all season long. Now

1790
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: throw on top of that pile of leaves the fact

1791
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 5: that you've lost your starting center this week, and you've

1792
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 5: lost him with enough time for Indiana to react. Now,

1793
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 5: if I'm the defensive coordinator in Bloomington, you know what

1794
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 5: I'm doing all week long. I'm doing late stems on

1795
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 5: the defensive line. You know what I'm saying. I'm making

1796
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 5: it so that we're getting close to the snaptown and

1797
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, you see a defensive lineman shift

1798
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 5: from one side of the.

1799
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 4: Center to the other side of the center.

1800
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 5: I'm changing the picture late to make confusion on the

1801
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 5: offensive line. I'm bringing blitzes you haven't seen this season.

1802
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 5: I'm creating some exotics, or I'm bringing some pressure packages

1803
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 5: that at very least are going to force the Ohio

1804
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 5: State Buck guys to communicate and to over communicate. Because

1805
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 5: if there's one thing that We all know about the

1806
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 5: center position, and I know this intimately because I played center.

1807
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 5: When you have an offensive line, even at home, even

1808
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 5: when the crowd's on their side, who has to chirp

1809
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 5: at each other a lot that daisy chain, Something gets broken,

1810
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 5: somebody screws up, and then all of a sudden you

1811
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 5: have an unforeseen pressure on Will Howard and he throws

1812
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 5: the ball a little too soon, and he ends up

1813
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 5: throwing it up to the defense. Those are the ways

1814
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,880
Speaker 5: I could see in Indiana win. Keeping it close, you know,

1815
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,479
Speaker 5: respectable loss. That's a little bit easier of a putt.

1816
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,120
Speaker 5: But in order for Indiana to win, it's gonna have

1817
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 5: to be both self imposed issues for Ohio State and

1818
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 5: also a near perfect game for the Hoosiers.

1819
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 8: Carson Hinsman, backup center for Ohio State, now starting center.

1820
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 7: Good luck finding another show that's.

1821
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 8: Gonna deep dive you on, Carson Hinsman, It's not gonna happen.

1822
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:43,400
Speaker 8: A four star prospect out of Wisconsin, the number nine

1823
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 8: interior offensive lineman in the class back in twenty two.

1824
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 7: Like, that's the thing about Ohio State.

1825
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 8: You lose a guy like McLaughlin, you replace him with

1826
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 8: a top ten interior lineman from the last two years ago.

1827
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 6: No, that's important. Yeah it is, Yeah, it is, It

1828
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 6: absolutely is.

1829
01:31:57,680 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 8: And when you look at Indiana's defense, I would say

1830
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 8: the best running game Indiana has faced this.

1831
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 7: Year was Washington.

1832
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 8: Jodah Coleman is elite, one of the best, most elusive

1833
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 8: backs in the country.

1834
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:12,559
Speaker 7: He ran for over one hundred yards four and.

1835
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 8: A half yards per rush after first contact against Indiana's defense.

1836
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 8: That is a Washington offensive line that is drastically inferior

1837
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 8: to Ohio State, even with the injuries. Washington does not

1838
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 8: have the beef upfront that Ohio State has, even with

1839
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 8: the injury to McLoughlin. So again, I think tempo and

1840
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:35,600
Speaker 8: pace matter in this game. Ohio State wants to strangle

1841
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 8: the life at you. That is what they did to

1842
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 8: Penn State on the road in Happy Valley with a

1843
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 8: shuffled offensive line. Now they're at home against a significantly

1844
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 8: inferior defensive line to what they have seen in those

1845
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 8: elite games right against Oregon and against Penn State.

1846
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,600
Speaker 7: Like those teams have dudes.

1847
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 8: Up front, Abdua Carter and Harmon and Birchle these guys

1848
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 8: like Indiana doesn't have.

1849
01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 7: That caliber of players.

1850
01:32:59,200 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 4: They have good players.

1851
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 8: Again, Kamara, car and Carpenter been impact players off the

1852
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 8: edge two. But I do think even with the injury

1853
01:33:07,080 --> 01:33:09,599
Speaker 8: to McLoughlin, I still think Ohio State is gonna run

1854
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:10,679
Speaker 8: it effectively in this game.

1855
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: Well, it's an important point that you made shared where

1856
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: there's a tendency to think a lot of people think

1857
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: this way. Oh Ohio State lost their center. Oh man,

1858
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:24,200
Speaker 1: the next guy, yeah, he's probably much worse.

1859
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 6: And it's like that's not always true. That's not always true.

1860
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: Where sometimes at a school like Ohio State, especially the

1861
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:35,680
Speaker 1: guy that's the backup pretty freaking good, right, And.

1862
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 6: It's not as easy I know all the ins and.

1863
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Outs, right, like where we're not saying a plug and

1864
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: play and it's all good. You're making all the calls.

1865
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot to adjust who we know all of that.

1866
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, bare bones, there's a tendency to think,

1867
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: ooh injury back up in bad and it might not

1868
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: be as bad as you initially think it is.

1869
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 5: Well, it just depends on the type of game you're having.

1870
01:33:56,560 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 5: If it's a close game and and or you're trailing

1871
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 5: at any point, if you're Ohio State, and it's going

1872
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 5: to rely a little bit more on the passing game

1873
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,320
Speaker 5: and the offensive line communication. Then it could be a

1874
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:11,759
Speaker 5: different story because if you screw up a play call,

1875
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 5: or i should say a line call on a pass protection,

1876
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 5: it's a lot different when you're trailing by three points,

1877
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 5: even at home against the Hoosiers, and you give up

1878
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 5: a huge sack in your own territory, you're punting the ball.

1879
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 5: Hoosiers get it at their own thirty five yard line,

1880
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 5: return it for seven yards, and they can take shots

1881
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 5: down field at midfield on you, and you're already trailing

1882
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 5: by three. All of a sudden, it gets dicey. The

1883
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 5: pressure's on the center to make the right call it

1884
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 5: every time. However, if you're in a situation where this

1885
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,599
Speaker 5: four star recruit top ten in his class comes into

1886
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 5: the game and he's just running the football because you're

1887
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 5: sporting a ten point lead early, it's a.

1888
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 4: Different type of ballgame.

1889
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 5: So the whole point for the Hoosiers is you gotta

1890
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,919
Speaker 5: find a way to create that pressure early and sustain

1891
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 5: that pressure as much as possible. Just talk about the

1892
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 5: defensive line. I'm talking about their offense. The onus is

1893
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 5: on Indiana offensively to get to get them a lead

1894
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 5: at any point in this game, because all of a

1895
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:16,760
Speaker 5: sudden the tide could turn, whereas miscommunications on the offensive

1896
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 5: line could be much more detrimental than it would be

1897
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 5: if they're running the football seventy five percent.

1898
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 4: Of the snaps through the rest of the game.

1899
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, I have two questions for your rich former offensive lineman.

1900
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 8: You love like pass protections much harder than run blocking, right,

1901
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 8: like you want to run.

1902
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 7: Block, you want to go of course yes.

1903
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:37,840
Speaker 8: Secondly, do you think it is easier or I guess

1904
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 8: more mentally challenging to know that you are going for

1905
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 8: this kid Hinsman, to know he's going to start five

1906
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 8: days before the game instead of McLoughlin being hurt in

1907
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 8: like the second quarter and you're thrust into it.

1908
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 7: You have to think about it more. But you have

1909
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 7: at least some time to prepare.

1910
01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's way better to have the preparation. And here's why,

1911
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 5: Because what you have during a week of practice as

1912
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 5: an offensive coordinator and an offense in general, is to

1913
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:11,480
Speaker 5: know where your greatest liabilities are. If Hinsman really struggles,

1914
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 5: I don't know man blocking, for example, you're gonna set

1915
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,919
Speaker 5: them up in situations where he's always surrounded by inline

1916
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 5: blockers who are going to have, you know, who can

1917
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,040
Speaker 5: protect his backside gap in his front side gap. And

1918
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 5: I know I'm kind of getting into the weeds, but

1919
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 5: there are ways to protect offensive linemen in pass protection.

1920
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 5: So if you have a liability, it's not exposed and

1921
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,280
Speaker 5: you can start to dissect what he can and can't

1922
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,480
Speaker 5: do effectively during the course of the week and basically

1923
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 5: rule out pass protections or hell, entire plays in your

1924
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,879
Speaker 5: playbook that you say, because our center is a different

1925
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 5: person now, because our personnel has changed, we just can't

1926
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,559
Speaker 5: run that play, and that's fine. Maybe it's a maybe

1927
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 5: there's a call in the playbook that's typically up where

1928
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,200
Speaker 5: the center has to pull into the alley on a

1929
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 5: sweep play.

1930
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 4: Maybe you don't run that this week.

1931
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 5: Maybe there's a play and by the way, that play

1932
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 5: could be up in the game plan if you have

1933
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,200
Speaker 5: an in game adjustment where a center has to come

1934
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,919
Speaker 5: in there and maybe whoopsies, it's.

1935
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:12,719
Speaker 4: Second and seven.

1936
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 5: This is a favorable spot to run that outside zone

1937
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 5: where we pull the center. You accidentally call it and

1938
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 5: then it's a disaster because you fumble a snap. These

1939
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 5: things happen in game, Whereas if you have a week's

1940
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 5: worth of practice, by process of elimination, you can whittle

1941
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 5: down the playbook to only include plays that you absolutely

1942
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 5: know that your center can can operate in. So it

1943
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 5: is better to have more time to prep the hold

1944
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 5: on real quick.

1945
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 8: There might be plays that the starting center wasn't good

1946
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 8: at that hintsman better at that Indiana hasn't seen on

1947
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:45,639
Speaker 8: tape yet.

1948
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 4: That's also true. There's a possibility.

1949
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 5: It's I would say that would be the rarer of

1950
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,520
Speaker 5: the two scenarios, but it is a possibility.

1951
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: Okay, are you guys done talking geeky offensive stuff here?

1952
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 7: I just let on.

1953
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 1: It is real fast. It's hard to see I you

1954
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: winning this game. At least for me, it's way harder

1955
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: for me to have seen a ten and zero fifth

1956
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 1: ranked Indiana team at this stage of the season, right

1957
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 1: and here they are. So they've got that going for them.

1958
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: They've pulled off the more shocking feet just being in

1959
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,759
Speaker 1: this position to begin with. All Right, we've got Rich Hornberger,

1960
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: Penn State All American, Jared Smith aspiring offensive line. Yeah,

1961
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1966
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1967
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1978
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Speaker 1: Bama against Oklahoma. Will an ugly season for Oklahoma get

1979
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:37,240
Speaker 1: even ugli or now here's the thing. Oklahoma is a

1980
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point home underdog and their.

1981
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 6: Defense is real.

1982
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 1: They've played good defense pretty consistently throughout the season, top

1983
01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: twenty and yards per play allowed. They do have to

1984
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:53,800
Speaker 1: deal with Jalen Milroe. He's had thirty two total touchdowns

1985
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,519
Speaker 1: this season. And I can't get over this stat line.

1986
01:39:56,760 --> 01:40:00,800
Speaker 1: So Oklahoma, their last game was against Missouri. Oklahoma should

1987
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: have won that game. It got disgusting at the end.

1988
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,240
Speaker 1: But even more disgusting than the ending for the Sooners

1989
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: their quarterback Jackson Arnold. His passing stat line fifteen for

1990
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: twenty four for seventy four yards. Goodness gracious against Missouri, right,

1991
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,599
Speaker 1: that's an average of three point one yards per pass?

1992
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Or what are we doing at this point? Right? So

1993
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: that's got to be a whole lot better against Bama.

1994
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,080
Speaker 1: What do you think, Rich? Can they stay within the number?

1995
01:40:27,120 --> 01:40:29,320
Speaker 1: That's the main question for Oklahoma here today?

1996
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 4: Boy boy, what a fall from Grace and Norman. You know,

1997
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 4: this is.

1998
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 5: One of those years for Oklahoma where I think I

1999
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,520
Speaker 5: think that it looked like they were going to outpace

2000
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 5: expectations and then they just fell flat on their face.

2001
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 5: Both these teams are coming off of some recent success.

2002
01:40:52,439 --> 01:40:55,639
Speaker 5: I mean, well, actually Alabama absolutely demolished Mercer. I don't

2003
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 5: know if you could call that success a fifty two

2004
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 5: to seven slat Bernacker, there can they keep it within

2005
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:08,839
Speaker 5: the number though, hmm. Any team that has to juggle

2006
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 5: quarterbacks throughout the course of a season, and not because

2007
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 5: they want to, because they're forced to, whether it be

2008
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 5: due to injury.

2009
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 4: Or just poor play or better play.

2010
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 5: From a backup, I really I really struggle with because

2011
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,759
Speaker 5: I think the old the old the anecdote is true.

2012
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:32,160
Speaker 5: If you don't have if you have two starting quarterbacks,

2013
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 5: you don't have a starting quarterback. And that's kind of

2014
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 5: been one of the running themes for Oklahoma this season.

2015
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 5: So I don't put a lot of faith in Oklahoma.

2016
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 5: Not entirely because of that reason, but that's a part

2017
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 5: of it.

2018
01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, if you take away the pick six, the crazy

2019
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 8: pick six at Auburn, that they were down in that

2020
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 8: game until they weren't. If you take that game away Oklahoma,

2021
01:41:56,160 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 8: their four other wins this year are against Temple Houston,

2022
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 8: which they needed every second to win that game, Tulane

2023
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,400
Speaker 8: and Maine.

2024
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:08,559
Speaker 7: It's just I don't know what.

2025
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're okay, they're okay, and that was a good

2026
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 8: win actually, and they started listening, they started four and one.

2027
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 8: They played Tennessee tight. I know Tennessee's had their issues

2028
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 8: this year, but when they manage up in class thirty

2029
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,599
Speaker 8: four to three against Texas, thirty five to nine against

2030
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 8: South Carolina, they hung with Ole miss for a minute,

2031
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 8: but they were really never in that game, and then

2032
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 8: the crazy back and forth game against Missou where I

2033
01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 8: just I had no idea Drew Pine had that kind

2034
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 8: of game in him to drop twenty.

2035
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 7: In the fourth quarter to beat Oklahoma.

2036
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 8: So it feels like a game based off the odds

2037
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:52,679
Speaker 8: that Alabama should cruise. But every time this number's gotten

2038
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 8: to fourteen, we've seen some buy on Oklahoma.

2039
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it's kind of that.

2040
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,360
Speaker 8: I don't want to say it's a Vegas know this

2041
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,120
Speaker 8: game because the line pretty much reflects what these two

2042
01:43:03,160 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 8: teams are. But based on the splits that I am seeing,

2043
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 8: there is some significant money on Oklahoma in this game.

2044
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 8: So there are some very smart people out there who

2045
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 8: do this for a living who think Oklahoma can keep

2046
01:43:17,040 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 8: this within the number, and I can see a path right.

2047
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,760
Speaker 8: Alabama's defense been a little shaky this year.

2048
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:24,360
Speaker 5: Sure, Can I ask Jared a question, Brian, Actually you

2049
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 5: weigh in two? Because I don't know the answer to this,

2050
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 5: and so maybe maybe it's more opinion based. What is

2051
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 5: the what is the point threshold variance that would get

2052
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 5: sharps to move on a number? So you said every

2053
01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,360
Speaker 5: time a touch fourteen, Oklahoma got love. Yeah, But like

2054
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 5: I mean, are we looking at a half point movement

2055
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,360
Speaker 5: in the in your favoral Is that all it takes?

2056
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 2: Well?

2057
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 8: Usually the common misconception about line movement is that, oh,

2058
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 8: the public's hammering Alabama, so the line's gonna move towards Alabama.

2059
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 8: The people who actually create the lines, and we've talked

2060
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 8: about this with Seamus before, they care more about what

2061
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 8: the respected betters think. And every sports book has a

2062
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,559
Speaker 8: profile on every single bet you make, and if they

2063
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:17,519
Speaker 8: deem you as a sharp better, meaning you're you're beating

2064
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 8: the line consistently and you're winning, then they will respect

2065
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,519
Speaker 8: your action. So you can have a thousand people bet

2066
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:28,599
Speaker 8: ten bucks on Alabama and then that one sharp better

2067
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 8: walks up to the window and drops a grand or

2068
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 8: five grand on Oklahoma at fourteen, and you just kind

2069
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 8: of draw that line in the sand that okay, obviously

2070
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 8: at fourteen, that's where the respected money likes Oklahoma. So

2071
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 8: let's not get back to fourteen because that's where we're

2072
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 8: gonna get more respected money on Oklahoma. So you kind

2073
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 8: of see this tug of war that usually takes place,

2074
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 8: we call them.

2075
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 7: Battles in the market.

2076
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,640
Speaker 8: Where all right, at fourteen, the pros like Oklahoma, but

2077
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 8: maybe at thirteen they like Alabama.

2078
01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 7: So it's it's it's sometimes it's that given.

2079
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 4: So it could be a point, it could be a

2080
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 4: half point.

2081
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, do you feel the same way, Like, like

2082
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 5: for you when you're placing when you're placing a bet

2083
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:12,680
Speaker 5: on a team, I mean you're you're you're waiting for

2084
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:13,280
Speaker 5: a number.

2085
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes well it's a little bit like what Jared said,

2086
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: if the books really respect the sharp money, I think

2087
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 1: you should too.

2088
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 7: Yep, because think of it.

2089
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,519
Speaker 1: This way where and the sharps don't always get it right,

2090
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,600
Speaker 1: But think of it with this Alabama game. So Alabama

2091
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:34,480
Speaker 1: is favored by thirteen and a half, they've dipped below fourteen.

2092
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 1: And so not all sharps think the same way, right, Like,

2093
01:45:38,680 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 1: not all sharps bet the same team and bet on

2094
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: the same side. There are these groups that will compete

2095
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: against each other, right, And so when you see a

2096
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 1: line like this, dip below fourteen, which is a key number,

2097
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 1: and you don't immediately see buyback on Alabama with the

2098
01:45:59,280 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: sharp better.

2099
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 6: That's telling you that the sharp betters.

2100
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,040
Speaker 4: Are like, yeah, they're split.

2101
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,679
Speaker 1: I don't know about Bama minus thirteen and a half.

2102
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,839
Speaker 1: So that we saw this last week in the NFL,

2103
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:14,439
Speaker 1: and this isn't always a tell, but it's something to

2104
01:46:14,560 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 1: keep in mind. It was the Atlanta Falcons at the

2105
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,919
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos and the Falcons opened as a small favorite,

2106
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 1: and the line swung to the Broncos being a small favorite,

2107
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 1: and you didn't see buy back on the Falcons, And

2108
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 1: it's like, hmm, that is telling. And so what Jared

2109
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 1: is saying is correct. This might be giving you some

2110
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:38,800
Speaker 1: information if the books are again valuing the sharp money,

2111
01:46:38,840 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 1: I think you should too. And if there was sharp

2112
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 1: money backing Alabama minus thirteen and a half, this line

2113
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:45,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't still be thirteen and a half.

2114
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 8: Alabama minus thirteen is where the sharp money bet Alabama

2115
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 8: this week.

2116
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 7: Thirteen and a half is kind of Noman's.

2117
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 8: I know what you're thinking, like, what are the odds

2118
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,000
Speaker 8: the game lens thirteen or fourteen?

2119
01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 7: Well, you know tenancy that weird?

2120
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:02,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll give you.

2121
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 5: I'll just give you, like you know, sort of the

2122
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 5: truly just football side of this. You know where I

2123
01:47:09,080 --> 01:47:14,240
Speaker 5: struggle without Oklahoma covering or I should say, uh uh

2124
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 5: finishing within the spread is they're rudderless. This is such

2125
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 5: an unmitigated disaster of a season for Oklahoma playing up

2126
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 5: against a much more buttoned up Alabama team like Kalem Debor.

2127
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 5: I realized there's a lot of change with Alabama, but

2128
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,599
Speaker 5: consistency has ruled the day in Bama. I think there's

2129
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 5: been a good message. I think he's set a culture

2130
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 5: in place. I think he's actually rode some of the

2131
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,959
Speaker 5: cottails of Saban's old culture, which there is some overlap

2132
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 5: if you've been paying attention with Dbor's done in multiple places. Toughness, consistency,

2133
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:56,040
Speaker 5: work ethic, being on time, and personal accountability. All those

2134
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,479
Speaker 5: things that were important to Saban. Those were tenants and

2135
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,840
Speaker 5: full philosophies that he carried on through his head coaching

2136
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 5: career as well. So the mesh was there for Debor

2137
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 5: to take over. You look at what Venables has been

2138
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 5: doing in Oklahoma. It's been bizarre. I mean it feels

2139
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 5: like this program is completely flailing in Norman, it's kind

2140
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 5: of been an embarrassment, So I don't know. It's down

2141
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 5: the stretch of the season you start thinking about maybe

2142
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 5: some more of the global issues that are affecting college

2143
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 5: football and college football teams, like the transfer portal, like name,

2144
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:39,880
Speaker 5: image and likeness, money, players starting to protect themselves from

2145
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 5: injury laden seasons, to make sure that if they are

2146
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 5: going to leave a program, they have health on their

2147
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,560
Speaker 5: side entering a new program.

2148
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 4: I think Oklahoma, you have.

2149
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 5: A lot of guys who have their eyes on the

2150
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:55,760
Speaker 5: offseason and maybe some of the money that they can

2151
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 5: make or the health they could sustain through the end

2152
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 5: of the season as opposed to being worried about the

2153
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 5: season they're currently in.

2154
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 4: And you can't blame them.

2155
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 5: But at the same point, you're not gonna play good

2156
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 5: football if that's the case.

2157
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:11,040
Speaker 8: If I had to guess why there is some money

2158
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:15,120
Speaker 8: on Oklahoma at fourteen here, like it's Brett Venables scheming

2159
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 8: something up to keep Jalen Milroe in check, Like like

2160
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 8: that's the path obviously for Oklahoma in this game.

2161
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 4: You can't just.

2162
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,360
Speaker 8: Let Milroe run through you and around you and over

2163
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:27,680
Speaker 8: top of you and underneath you and just go absolutely

2164
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 8: bananas in this game. I think the the Oklahoma money

2165
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:36,840
Speaker 8: probably is legit. But I do think Alabama has a

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01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 8: really good path in the bracket because they likely won't

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01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 8: be playing in the SEC title, which means they're gonna

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01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 8: get a ton of time to rest up for that

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01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 8: first round playoff game. They'll probably be on the road,

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01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 8: maybe in a cold environment. But this is a legit

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01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 8: Alabama team. Like I think Kalen de Borr, there's never

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01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 8: been a problem with x's and o's. You look at

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01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 8: the recruiting, that was the big question. Can you recruit

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01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,600
Speaker 8: the South? They have a top ten fruiting class. I

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01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 8: think it's in the top five, so the x's and

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01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 8: o's have always been there. I do think BAM is

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01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:07,240
Speaker 8: a very dangerous team when we get to the playoff

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01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,360
Speaker 8: because of Milroe's legs, But I could see them, you know,

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01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 8: not necessarily distancing themselves in this game.

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01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 7: First of all, the total is really low and Venables is.

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01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,800
Speaker 8: A good defensive coache, so I wouldn't be shocked if

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01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 8: this one's a little bit more of a battle than

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01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 8: maybe the points Bread indicates.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get a couple of games in the

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01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: mix here. Yeah, one line, one liners. Okay, I repeat you, gasbags,

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01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: one line. That's it, that's all you freak and a half.

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01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,040
Speaker 7: Can I go under one and a half?

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01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Penn State at Minnesota? Okay, this could be a slow,

2189
01:50:39,280 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 1: grinded out, low scoring game. What do you guys think,

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01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:43,600
Speaker 1: Penn State Minnesota.

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,879
Speaker 5: Look, I my knee jerk reaction is Penn State rolls.

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01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 4: But you're right.

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01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 5: I do think that there's a little bit of that grinder.

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01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 5: Be patient and take what Minnesota is giving to you.

2195
01:50:55,479 --> 01:50:59,400
Speaker 5: Mentality that Penn State may or the Nitney Lions may

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01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 5: have to, uh may have to adjust to in this game,

2197
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 5: giving up ground grudgingly, defensively, and and sort of just

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01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 5: playing that game of Hey, if they're gonna play shell

2199
01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:13,400
Speaker 5: coverage and avoid explosive plays, or if they're going to

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01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:16,000
Speaker 5: allow us to run the football, let's just do that

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01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 5: and survive the day with a win.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there are either a lot of commas or that

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01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: was more than one line.

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01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,640
Speaker 4: Okay, that was for the one line. There are a

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01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 4: lot of commas.

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01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 1: I promise there are a lot a lot of commas.

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01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:30,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, Minnesota off the by PJ Fleck extra time.

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01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,080
Speaker 7: They need to tackle better. I'm scared about this game.

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01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, like that all right?

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01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 4: Uh?

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01:51:36,240 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: Usc U c l A five and five verses four

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01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:46,160
Speaker 1: and six. I rivalry, I.

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01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:50,400
Speaker 4: Think, I think, yeah it is. I think our entire

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01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:51,080
Speaker 4: one line is.

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01:51:52,760 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 1: I know, Hey, Washington State, Oregon State, the PAC twelve lives.

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01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: Huh well Pack two tilt here? Nice?

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01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:05,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, talk about a game that sounded so much cooler

2219
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,559
Speaker 5: earlier in the season, like these two teams came out

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01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 5: to great starts and it really boy has the energy

2221
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:13,160
Speaker 5: behind both squads?

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01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 4: Tailed? Yeah.

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01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 8: I have nothing to add on this game other than

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01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 8: no worries that back two lives forever.

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01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: There you go. Last one, real fast BYU against Arizona State.

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01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: This is nine and one versus eight and two. I

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01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,160
Speaker 1: hate that we give this the you know, the one

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01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,360
Speaker 1: liner treatment. This is a good matchup.

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01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:32,360
Speaker 4: I love this.

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01:52:32,439 --> 01:52:36,040
Speaker 1: I'll give you one matchup. The BYU's defense is physical,

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01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: and you've got Arizona running back Cam Skataboo, who is

2232
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:45,400
Speaker 1: guy just he is a bowling ball on wheels man

2233
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,879
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see a physical defense against Skataboo.

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01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 1: That's gonna be fun.

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01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 5: The pressures on BYU BYU bware, That's what I'll say.

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01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 7: I think BYU very vulnerable. I really do.

2237
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,160
Speaker 8: And Arizona State plus three fifty to win the big Well,

2238
01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:02,280
Speaker 8: if they win this week, they're beating Arizona next week.

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01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 7: They're gonna be in that game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, last little nugget Arizona State wide receiver

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01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson. Listen to what he's done in the last

2242
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: three games. Twenty seven catches, five touchdowns and he's averaging

2243
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:17,879
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighteen yards receiving.

2244
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

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01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:21,240
Speaker 7: Kenny Dillingham's legit man. He is the heck of a coach.

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01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: He got a great job. Man eight and two. Who

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01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: saw that they were picked dead last.

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01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:27,000
Speaker 7: In their conference?

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01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 8: Nobody saw that comming They've won two road games the

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01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 8: last two years combined, they've already won three this year.

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01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a great job right there, no doubt.

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01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,799
Speaker 1: All right, We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American,

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01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,960
Speaker 1: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 7: I'm Brian.

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Speaker 4: Note.

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Speaker 7: No, we're going three and all again this week.

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Speaker 1: than ten minutes. All Right, we've got some picks to make.

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01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:13,280
Speaker 1: Let's do it.

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01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:18,240
Speaker 4: Rapid fire.

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01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: All right, mister six and oh the last two weeks,

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01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,400
Speaker 1: Jared Smith, what do you have for us? Man?

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01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 8: I'm still five under five hundred for the year. That's

2290
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 8: how bad it was heading in. But we're on the

2291
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 8: road to recovery. I gave this pick earlier, Parley platter.

2292
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,080
Speaker 8: We'll give it to you in spread form two ul

2293
01:55:34,160 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 8: Monroe plus two and a half.

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01:55:35,480 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 7: There's some three available, but bet MGM giving.

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01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 8: You plus two and a half minus one oh five odds.

2296
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,440
Speaker 8: I'll take it. The Warhawks need to win either this

2297
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 8: week or next week to get Bowl eligible. The problem

2298
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,240
Speaker 8: is next week they play a really good Louisiana Offaette team.

2299
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 8: Their best chance to get BO eligible is to beat

2300
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:52,440
Speaker 8: arc State, who's been really living on the edge five

2301
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 8: and zero in one score games this year. They're gonna

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01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 8: be a five and one because this is gonna be

2303
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 8: a tight game, and I think Monroe pulls it out.

2304
01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:59,160
Speaker 7: Give me the Warhawks plus two and a half at

2305
01:55:59,240 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 7: Arc State.

2306
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,879
Speaker 8: Texas minus eighteen and a half against Kentucky.

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01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 7: Style points matter for the Longhorns, right.

2308
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 4: They need to win big.

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01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:09,480
Speaker 8: Kentucky's been blown out by a couple of teams this year,

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01:56:09,520 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 8: South Carolina Florida. They kept things close against Georgia, but

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01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:14,480
Speaker 8: they can only score twelve points in that game. Four

2312
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:17,080
Speaker 8: field goals ain't gonna get it done. Their defense is

2313
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 8: banged up. That's how you beat Texas, just like Georgia did.

2314
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 8: But I think Kentucky loses the trench battle today. Give

2315
01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 8: me Texas big over the Wildcats, and I'll go under

2316
01:56:25,520 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 8: Indiana Ohio State fifty two and a half. This will

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01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:31,360
Speaker 8: be the best defense Indiana's face this year. The other

2318
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 8: good defense they faced last week against Michigan. They were

2319
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:37,720
Speaker 8: two hundred and thirty yards below their season average tight

2320
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,680
Speaker 8: phone booth game. I think it's a under fifty two

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01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 8: and a half for the buck Guys and Hoosiers.

2322
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,800
Speaker 5: Actually, that perfectly dovetails into my first bet, Indiana at

2323
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 5: Ohio State. If that game goes under, I think it

2324
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 5: does favor the dog, Indiana getting ten and a half

2325
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,839
Speaker 5: on the road. I'm gonna roll with the Hoosiers injured

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01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 5: center on Ohio state side. I think factors today that

2327
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 5: dog will play all.

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01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 4: Right, Ole Miss at Florida. Ole Miss is a much much.

2329
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 5: Much shrutch much trutch shuts much much better team at

2330
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 5: Florida in my opinion. So I'll take the road favorite here,

2331
01:57:13,760 --> 01:57:16,480
Speaker 5: Ole Miss favored by twelve and a half. And then

2332
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 5: you have Arizona State. We're just talking about this game.

2333
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:24,640
Speaker 5: I said it BYU Beware. I love ASU's toughness, I

2334
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:29,360
Speaker 5: love their RB one. Give me the Sun Devils minus

2335
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 5: three and a half hosting the Kooks.

2336
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's start it off with the bang.

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01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Here you Mass plus forty two and a half. Give

2338
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 1: him Kirby Smart.

2339
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,760
Speaker 7: They just do not blow out teams. It's unbelievable.

2340
01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,839
Speaker 1: When Georgia it's favored by at least thirty eight points,

2341
01:57:44,920 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart is ozho to twelve against the spread. They

2342
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: just they pack it up. Man, They're like, hey, we

2343
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: want we don't need to blow them out. Let's keep

2344
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,720
Speaker 1: everybody healthy. Let's just get out of here with the W.

2345
01:57:56,360 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 1: So I'll take U Mass plus forty two and a

2346
01:57:58,920 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: half Rich.

2347
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 6: We're on the same side over here.

2348
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 1: Oh Miss minus twelve and a half against Florida. Florida

2349
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,720
Speaker 1: secondary is banged up. They were on the field for

2350
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 1: about forty two minutes last game against LSU. I think

2351
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,560
Speaker 1: Ole Miss dices them up something nasty here and give

2352
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,280
Speaker 1: him my guy, Jeremiah Love Notre Dame running back over

2353
01:58:21,400 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: seventy two and a half rushing yards. Ok, I think

2354
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 1: they man handle Army. I'm on two rushing totals with

2355
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: the Riley Leonards and Jeremiah Love. So I'm expecting a

2356
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of rushing success and i think they're blowing them

2357
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. So I'll take Jay Love

2358
01:58:38,360 --> 01:58:41,800
Speaker 1: with a great touchdown celebration right he does the little

2359
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 1: heart right there. I like the Taylor Swift style.

2360
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 4: Smart there.

2361
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: It's as brand building right there. So there you go.

2362
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 6: What do you think nine to zero collectively?

2363
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:52,160
Speaker 4: Yes? Pretty sure?

2364
01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:53,120
Speaker 1: Pretty sure?

2365
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,280
Speaker 7: Bonus played Bryce and Daly to scored two touchdowns four

2366
01:58:56,320 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 7: to one.

2367
01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:58,800
Speaker 1: How ahreaking Dary?

2368
01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 7: How do we do we end on that note here?

2369
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 8: That's like a that's like a pizza money beer money

2370
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:06,600
Speaker 8: kind of play.

2371
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:09,360
Speaker 7: That's just for funsies. It completely not part of the

2372
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:10,320
Speaker 7: equation today.

2373
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 1: But what's the longest army scoring drive? How many minutes

2374
01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: plays or yard minutes?

2375
01:59:17,120 --> 01:59:17,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm.

2376
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:19,920
Speaker 5: Gonna set the line at eight and a half minutes

2377
01:59:20,840 --> 01:59:21,560
Speaker 5: under over.

2378
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 1: It's a trick question because they're not gonna score.

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01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 7: Let's go high, right,