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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob

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Speaker 1: Lamb and oh we have a fun one for you today.

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Speaker 1: This is our discussion of the nineteen sixty Mexican sci

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Speaker 1: fi comedy musical Ship of Monsters. So I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this one. This one originally published nine three, twenty

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 3: And I'm Joe McCormick and Rob. I am so thrilled

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Speaker 3: to be talking about the movie that we've selected for today.

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Speaker 3: Lea Nave de los monstros or The Ship of Monsters,

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Speaker 3: an astoundingly, shockingly devastatingly awesome Mexican film from nineteen sixty

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Speaker 3: in the exquisite genre of science fiction, horror, romantic comedy,

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Speaker 3: music goal. This is a movie about women from the

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Speaker 3: planet Venus who are roaming deep space on a quest

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Speaker 3: for the hunkiest aliens in the galaxy and skip from

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Speaker 3: planet to planet collecting reptile cyclops hunks, kissy face brain

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Speaker 3: mutant hunks, fang head skeleton hunks until they finally meet

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Speaker 3: the hunkiest hunk of all a rascal writer of the

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Speaker 3: Chihuahua Planes, played by the incomparable Lallo Gonzalez aka l Pipoorro.

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Speaker 3: More on him later. This movie is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a real pleasant surprise when you brought

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Speaker 1: this title to our attention. I did like some preliminary research.

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Speaker 1: I looked it up in the Psychotronic Video Guide and

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, it's listed there. Sounds like

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Speaker 1: it might be good. So I went into it expecting

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Speaker 1: there to be something awesome about it. You know, i'd

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Speaker 1: find a monster I liked or a performance I liked.

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Speaker 1: I was also expecting a certain amount of dead space

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Speaker 1: in there is sometimes the case with films from this

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Speaker 1: time period of this caliber, but this one is just

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Speaker 1: wall to wall excellence.

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Speaker 3: Yes, totally. They're not a dull moment. I mean, we've

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Speaker 3: we've watched some sci fi horror movies from the fifties that,

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Speaker 3: you know, they might have a really fun, goofy looking monster,

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Speaker 3: or they might have elements that work really well, not

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Speaker 3: of this Earth comes to mind. But then there'll be

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Speaker 3: other moments that are kind of some dead space, yeah,

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Speaker 3: or kind of dull square lug dude, it's just standing

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Speaker 3: around delivering dry dialogue. This movie has essentially none of that.

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Speaker 3: It's all killer, no filler exactly.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, this one's This one's great.

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Speaker 3: Would this count as our first science fiction, horror, romantic

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Speaker 3: comedy musical.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it definitely would, and it I guess you could.

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Speaker 1: You could rank it as one of our first true musicals.

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Speaker 1: Or it's as close to a true musical as we've covered. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: some of the movies we've looked at have complete songs

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Speaker 1: within them, but this one has multiple musical numbers. I

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Speaker 1: mean they're not I mean they're very they're definitely lip SYNCD. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's there's maybe only a limited amount of dance choreography

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I would defend the dance sequences. There's one

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Speaker 3: dance scene in this movie that is just divine. It's

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Speaker 3: the one later on where Lalo Gonzalez is dancing and

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Speaker 3: singing to the to the Vampire Queen. Spoiler we'll get

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Speaker 3: to some twists about this later on. But he's also

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Speaker 3: trying to steal her, like her technology, her space weapon,

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Speaker 3: and so they're dancing around and she's making eyes at him,

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Speaker 3: and he's singing a song about the seasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, true, okay, but that that felt also very organic.

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Speaker 1: It felt like organic dancing that just came out of

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So of course, folks out there, you know, we

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Speaker 3: love our unlikely genre mashups. We've talked about supernatural wrestling movies,

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Speaker 3: often referred to as a science fiction comedy, but it's

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Speaker 3: also definitely got horror elements. Like some of the things

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Speaker 3: And the musical numbers are just just wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Like when we say they're alien monsters and they're

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Speaker 3: Oh? Is that Earth Girls or easy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you might be thinking of Earth Girls are easy,

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Speaker 3: This movie might be called earth males or liars, but

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Speaker 3: lovable liars. But so anyway, having read about this movie

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Speaker 3: which it absolutely It is just like Goober's Inside Out.

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Speaker 3: This movie will give you hard boiled egg eyes. But

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Speaker 3: also the musical numbers are charming, the comedy scenes are

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the humor I found held up pretty well. I

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Speaker 1: I also have to throw in that, oh man, I

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Speaker 1: love a good movie poster, and if you look around

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Speaker 1: for movie posters for this film, you'll find some kind

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Speaker 1: of boring images. But there's also a terrific image of

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Speaker 1: and it's got this wonderful orange and red look going on.

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Speaker 1: It's absolutely beautiful. And in fact I showed this to

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Speaker 3: Godspeed on your quest. I hope you do find it now.

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Speaker 3: You've been having trouble, right, it seems like merch for

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Speaker 3: this movie is rather scarce on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Now. I think this poster is the Italian poster for

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Speaker 1: I hope that conveyed at least some of the magic

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Speaker 3: Are Are you ready to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Okay. So the director of this movie was named Rogalio A. Gonsalez,

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Speaker 3: and I was looking around for good biographical info about him.

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Speaker 3: a ton of movies in the fifties through the early eighties,

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Speaker 3: though I don't think I have seen any of them.

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Speaker 1: Now, yeah, I agree. I don't think I've seen anything

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was one title of his I came

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Speaker 1: Know, Missus Morales. Oh, yeah, okay, Yeah, And I've also

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Speaker 3: more about Gonzalez's Regalio Gonzalez's biography. There are actually two

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Speaker 3: He was also a union leader in the Director's Division

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Speaker 3: excessive work, since he writes at all hours, sometimes living

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Speaker 3: exclusively at night. Oh wow, Now this profile was written

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Speaker 3: many years before he made Ship of Monsters. Ship of

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Speaker 3: Monsters came out in nineteen sixty. Again, I think this

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Speaker 3: that it was this nocturnal consciousness that birthed the physical

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Speaker 3: furry Spider Beetle, the irritable Lizard Cyclops, the Kissy Face

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Speaker 3: I have not seen any of Gonsalez's other movies, but

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Speaker 3: given this, he's got a real talent for extremely visually charming,

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely. Now a quick note about the individuals

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Speaker 1: story credit goes to Jose Maria Fernandez Unsein, who lived

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Speaker 1: had connections to Eva Peron, so very prolific. He has

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Speaker 1: I think one hundred and twenty two writing credits on IMDb.

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Speaker 1: But then adaptation writing credit goes to Alfredo Verrella, who

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Speaker 1: lived nineteen twelve through nineteen eighty six. This is a

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Speaker 1: this is definitely the Mexican born Alfredo Verrella. But there's

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Speaker 1: also an Argentinian novelist and communist journalist named Alfredo Verrella

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Speaker 3: But the excellent cast does not stop there. So Lolo

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Speaker 1: Yes. Lepe plays Gamma and Velasquez plays Beta. Both of

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Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the really delectable things about this film

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Speaker 3: This is a light, romantic musical comedy with killer monsters

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Speaker 1: It makes me think that this film was a big

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Speaker 1: Now we also have an actual queen in this we

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure exactly. Sometimes the monster credits are

432
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: kind of lost, especially in limited credits for a film

433
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: like this, But Julio Chavez is credited for costumes, and

434
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: I noticed that, among many other credits, they did costumes

435
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: and wardrobe on nineteen sixty nine's Santo w and the

436
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: Treasure of Dracula, which was covered several months back.

437
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: So this is a Santo heavy connection section.

438
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And when it comes to the music, we

439
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 1: have another direct reference to Santo and the Treasure of

440
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: Dracula because Sergio Guerrero, who lived nineteen twenty one through

441
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, he did the music in this

442
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: which has some neat sci fi sounds in there in

443
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 1: places which I liked. But this is a guy with

444
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty two composer credits on IMDb, including

445
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: such Mexican films as Neutron Traps, The Invisible Killers, Le Sombra, Viingadora,

446
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: and again Santo in the Treasure of Dracula. So yes,

447
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: lots of Santo connections here.

448
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: Now, if Guerrero here did the music, I don't know

449
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 3: if that necessarily would include other types of sound design,

450
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 3: but I did want to highlight that this movie has

451
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: some really good sound design, Like there are moments where

452
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: the monsters are speaking, and it's not necessarily music, though

453
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 3: I do love the music in this movie. But it's

454
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: like the way the vocal effects they've done on the voiceovers,

455
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: for when the puppets are talking, giving them these raspy

456
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: voices as if they're emanating from the caves of Hades.

457
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: You know, just great monster voices.

458
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, some wonderful Spanish monster voices in this it's pretty great. Well,

459
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: should we get into the plot a little bit here?

460
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: We've been talking it up. Let's tell folks what this

461
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: movie is about.

462
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, we're not going to do a full scene

463
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: by scene on this one. We might go a little

464
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: more detail early on and then later for the later

465
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: parts of the movie, just talk about some highlights and ideas.

466
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: But I do want to get very granular with the

467
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: introduction because I think the very intro of the movie

468
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: really sets the move fast and break things tone. I

469
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 3: would say, in the much better sense of that phrase,

470
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: that's the attitude this film has toward plotting. So the

471
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: very first thing we see is an atom, you see,

472
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: like the old school representation of the atomic nucleus with

473
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: all of its orbitals, and the narrator says, this is

474
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 3: an atom, then it shows us a planet. At first

475
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: I thought it was the Moon, but I think it's

476
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: supposed to be planet Earth. And then it says, this

477
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 3: is the universe. Then it goes on and atom is

478
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: infinitely small, the universe is infinitely large. However, everything is

479
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: ruled by the same laws. Man has learned to release

480
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: the power of the atom, and with it wants to

481
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: conquer the universe. Some really elegant symmetry in this opening narration.

482
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 3: This is almost a strange poem of sorts. And then

483
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: the narration goes on it says, but he dreams of

484
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: leaving the Earth and leaving his seed on a distant planet,

485
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: perhaps with the subconscious desire of starting a new race,

486
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 3: one that will remain ignorant of atomic power and warfare. Right,

487
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 3: so the idea is that, okay, all species maybe that

488
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: discover atomic energy and atomic weapons, eventually we'll want to

489
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: go sort of create a new version of themselves on

490
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 3: a planet that is blissfully free of this terrible knowledge.

491
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: And of course, throughout the well this we're getting a

492
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: lot of we're getting stock footage of mushroom clouds from

493
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: atomic tests. But then it goes on to say, and

494
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 3: that is a planet known to us. So here we

495
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: cut to Venus. It says, let's go on a characteristically

496
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: dark night to Venus, and we see the these creepy

497
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: images of lights with a hazy four ground, so they're

498
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: just kind of these very fuzzily defined lights in the

499
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: background and mist and darkness with these figures and cloaks

500
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: wandering into the frame, and it's actually quite creepy. It is.

501
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: I found this quite evocative early on. Now I understand

502
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: some of these space scenes we see early in the

503
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: film or are taken from nineteen fifty seven's Road to

504
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 1: the Star as a Soviet film about the possible future

505
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: of spaceflight. But I'm not sure about these kind of dark,

506
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: hooded figures here with the cosmic backdrop.

507
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know about those. I do think, yeah,

508
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I was also reading that some

509
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 3: of these early scenes are just lifted from other films.

510
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: One thing I want to add is that you could

511
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: easily you could be watching this and think, all right,

512
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: here's our sort of out there's introduction, but then we're

513
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: going to go onto another movie and this will have

514
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: little more nothing to do with where we're going. But

515
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: it does come back up again. It seems to be

516
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: in you know, it seems to be stitched into the

517
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: plot itself, and it's not just some thing that's just

518
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: tacked on the front to keep us in our seats

519
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: for a few minutes.

520
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: That's right. I would say that actually this is this

521
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: is pretty coherent. As as bonkers as the plot of

522
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: this movie is, it all kind of ties together, like

523
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: it makes sense even though it's nuts. So, okay, we

524
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: learned that the planet Venus is preparing for the most

525
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: important interplanetary space flight in their history, and then we

526
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: get shots of the surface of Venus where we see

527
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: a bunch of women lining up in military formations outside

528
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: of a rocket ship and there is nary a man

529
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: in sight. So what's going on here? Well, we get

530
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 3: some exposition. The region to Venus comes out. I think

531
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 3: she's the queen of the planet and she's addressing two women.

532
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: So you have Annabertha Leppe and Lorraine of Alaskas as

533
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: the characters Gamma and Beta, respectively, and they are being

534
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 3: given a mission. Gamma is the commander in chief of

535
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: the interplanetary spacecraft. So the region of Venus explains the situation,

536
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: and the situation is dire. She says, Okay, the last

537
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: male on our planet is dead. They're all gone. They

538
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: are dead due to an atomic scourge. And so she

539
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 3: is giving a mission to these two brave space pilots.

540
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 3: They're going to fly around and go to all the

541
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: planets and collect the most perfect male specimens to bring

542
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: back to Venus. And then Gamma says, I will bring

543
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: you the most beautiful male specimens. The most perfect of

544
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: them will sire the new generations of Venus. And then

545
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: we get the part I alluded to earlier where the

546
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: regent says that Beta, played by Lorrain of Alaskaz, she's

547
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: a foreigner to Venus. She's the daughter of or the

548
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: planet of shadows, and she has been assigned to travel

549
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: alongside Gamma on her mission because she's the greatest space

550
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: navigator on the planet. And then the last thing she

551
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: says to them is in you we trust. Question about

552
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: Gamma's outfit. Did you ever figure out what the thing

553
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: on her shoulder is? Oh?

554
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of has this kind of tassly feathery thing,

555
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: but also might be an antenna. I'm not sure. Maybe

556
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: she has like wireless in the suit. I'm not sure.

557
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be decorative

558
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: or supposed to be technology. But yeah, she has this

559
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 3: array of sprigs of something coming off of her left

560
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 3: shoulder and I don't know what they are, and they're

561
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: there like the whole movie. She changes outfits, but that's

562
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: always there. It looks kind of like she had some

563
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: of those like wire fairy wings, but somebody crumpled them

564
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: up and moved them all to one shoulder. I don't know.

565
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's stylish. I mean that seems

566
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: to have been the main intent here is that these

567
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: women should look extremely stylish. As they travel through space.

568
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: They look super cool. And it is announced via footage

569
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: from another movie that the orbits have aligned and so

570
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: it is time for them to depart. So we see

571
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: Gamma and Beta. They enter the interior of their spaceship,

572
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: which maybe we should describe because a lot of the

573
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: action of the film will take place here. So there

574
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: are like two pilot seats where they're operating these big

575
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: control panels. I guess Beta is the nownavigator and Gammas

576
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 3: the commander, and then behind them there is all this

577
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: heavy machinery which looked like real heavy machinery, not just

578
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: like something on the set. I don't know what they

579
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: were filming. Maybe they were generators of some kind, like

580
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: these big years working back and forth.

581
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the set is great, it definitely. They do a

582
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: great job establishing it as the command center of the spaceship.

583
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: I got kind of tones of observatory from parts of it,

584
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not really sure, because clearly huge parts of

585
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: it are an actual set, so it's not just that

586
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: they went into an observatory or into a factory and

587
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: started filming there. There's also some really elaborate stuff they constructed,

588
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: so I don't know.

589
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are these big clusters of balls up on

590
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: the ceiling, like gigantic grapes. I don't know what those

591
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: are supposed to be. And then there is a big

592
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: platform looking out over the rest of the set like

593
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: a preacher's pulpit, and there's I don't know, various weird

594
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: glass bulbs and files in the background, and just rivets

595
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 3: and metal everywhere. It's cool. And then while the credits play,

596
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: we see them setting down on strange worlds, including this

597
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: one world that's full of crooked spires of rock that

598
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: are sort of the same size and shape as the

599
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: rocket that lands, except you know, they're stony and jagged,

600
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: and I guess this must be happening off screen. But

601
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: during this credit sequence we're to understand that they're out

602
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: there collecting all of the mails along their journey, which

603
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: they tend to keep frozen in giant cubes of ice.

604
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: And they accomplish this by operating a camera flash at them.

605
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: And it made me wonder which of the male monsters

606
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: comes from the spike rock planet.

607
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it could be home to. Well, we

608
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: know this is not the surface of Mars because we

609
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: know what Mars looks.

610
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: Like, so right, that's where brain Boy comes from.

611
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not the Prince of Mars, so it

612
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: must be. It must be one of the others. This

613
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: would be a suitable planet, and perhaps for the skeletal,

614
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: fleshless being.

615
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 3: Yeah Billy Bones.

616
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we'll get him in a minute now.

617
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: Another major devil on the initial premise is that somewhere

618
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: along the way, Gamma and Beta acquire an alien robot

619
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: called Tor, and Tor is a major helper of their

620
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: mission as they go along. He wasn't theirs originally, but

621
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: they say that they again in a strange bit of

622
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: just just ever so briefly alluded to world building. They

623
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: say that they collected him from a dead planet where

624
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 3: all of the humans had annihilated themselves with atomic war.

625
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah. He's key to the whole operation though, because he

626
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: has the ability to freeze the monsters in blocks of

627
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: some sort of ice. Otherwise, I mean, they could still

628
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: handle the monsters. They prove that later on they have

629
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: space flamethrowers, but this is a huge help.

630
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: Well, now I think they can also freeze the monsters

631
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 3: with their little camera flashbox.

632
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: I think, oh, can they?

633
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 3: Okay, But he's very helpful for he's very helpful because

634
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 3: he contains these encyclopedias of knowledge about all the planets.

635
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, that's right, And these are often really funny

636
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 1: sometimes with some you know, kind of I guess political

637
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: satire thrown in there, right when they like asking about

638
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Mexico and stuff.

639
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: Right, yes, So, so eventually the robot tells them their

640
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 3: spacecraft is suffering mechanical trouble and they got to set

641
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: down on the nearest planet for repairs. Well, what's the

642
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: nearest planet? The robot says, it is Intarsis one thirty

643
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: five sub two planetoid of the fourth order. And so

644
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: how does the robot know what this planet is? Well,

645
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: he says, you know, before the men of his planet

646
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: all destroyed themselves with nuclear war, they left these encyclopedias

647
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 3: of knowledge inside his computer brain. And the men of

648
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: his planet had originally wanted to explore this planetoid Intarsis

649
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: one thirty five sub two. They wanted to explore it,

650
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: but then they learned a bit of bit more about

651
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 3: it and ultimately decided it was not worth it because quote,

652
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 3: it is inhabited by beings that seemed to be intelligent,

653
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 3: but they do not know what they want and enjoy

654
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 3: destroying each other. And of course what planets he talking.

655
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: About, it's us and it's pretty spot on.

656
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Gamma and Beta perform a perilous emergency landing

657
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: and they set down in the Mexican state of Chihuahua,

658
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 3: which is in the central north. It's along the border

659
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: with Texas and New Mexico, and so they're setting down

660
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: their spaceship and as that's happening, we get our first

661
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: meeting with La Loo Gonzales as a character named Loreano.

662
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 3: What's he doing? Well, of course he is out riding

663
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: his horse and singing a love song to nobody in particular.

664
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: And the first scene where we meet him, you just

665
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: kind of instantly fall in love with this g Like

666
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 3: he sees the rocket ship, he thinks it's a shooting star,

667
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 3: and he makes a wish and his wish is for

668
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: is for quote, I hope for a pretty girl, but

669
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: one who loves me. And then he sings a song

670
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: about wishing on this star to find a woman to

671
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: fall in love with. In my translation, he kept saying

672
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: he was searching for a divine love. But then the

673
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: other half of the song is about how everybody incorrectly

674
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 3: believes that he is no good. So the lyrics include

675
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: things like they say, I'm a crook and a liar

676
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: and I chicken out in the end, but it's not true.

677
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 3: And then you get you remember when when he gives

678
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: the horse guarantee, he's like, if you don't believe me,

679
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: ask my horse. My horse will tell you I never

680
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 3: tell a lie. And then the horse starts like bucking

681
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: and neighing.

682
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. There's some fun stuff, like when you

683
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: first see this character, there might be a temptation to think, Okay,

684
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: this is going to be just a shining White Night.

685
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: You know that he's going to be a pure hero,

686
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,959
Speaker 1: but then you quickly realize, no, he's a bard, if

687
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: not an actual rogue, but a very funny one. Like

688
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: he's the comedy begins to shine through, and there's some

689
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 1: stuff with him, like the way he's riding his horse,

690
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: either intentionally or accidentally, but I believe it must be

691
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: part of the character. You get the idea that he's

692
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: not that good at riding the horse. There's some awkward dismounts,

693
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: which adds to the comedic nature of this character.

694
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 3: You know. I was trying They may have said it

695
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: in the movie and it went past me. Was trying

696
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: to figure out what does Loreano do. I was thinking,

697
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: maybe he's supposed to be a rancher, but you don't

698
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: really see much about that. Is he just a professional liar?

699
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: He has a cow, and we spend a lot of

700
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: time with that cow. Yeah, so I think he's technically

701
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: a rancher. Maybe that's part of the joke, is that

702
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: he's because the character, I'm to understand his performance character

703
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a North Mexican rancher. But maybe

704
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: the joke is okay, he only has this one cow

705
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 1: and it may or might not even be that good

706
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: of a milk producer, depending on the joke.

707
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: But basically all he does is like ride around singing

708
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: and then go into town and tell awesome lies. Yes,

709
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 3: so we see him go into a bar and everybody's

710
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: drinking and he's telling these tall tales about like how

711
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: he foiled a robbery with a bunch of bandits and

712
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: he killed two bandits with one bullet left in his

713
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 3: gun by holding a knife in front of the barrel

714
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 3: and splitting the bullet in half so it hit them both.

715
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,879
Speaker 3: And then he starts shifting from here to the increasingly

716
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 3: bizarre stories about unusual bears and then dinosaurs. Did your

717
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: translation include dinosaurs?

718
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: It did? Yes, Okay. I wasn't entirely sure what to

719
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: make of that. At first, I thought maybe it was

720
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: a joke about chickens, and I was thinking, oh, this

721
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: is actually scientifically accurate in some respects. But then there's

722
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: the thing about dinosaurs without bones, and I'm not sure,

723
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: so maybe something's something is ultimately lost in translation. But

724
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: it still came off as very fun and funny.

725
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: It seems like normally he just he is wont to

726
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: tell stories about dinosaurs out by the sawmill, dinosaurs without bones,

727
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: boneless boneless buffalo dinosaurs.

728
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: But in this whole situation, he almost sort of gets

729
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: into a duel. Yeah yeah, like a shootout, shootout a scenarios.

730
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 3: Name Rubiano or something, Yeah.

731
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then kind of talks his way, jokes his

732
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: way out of it. So they do a great job

733
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: of establishing his character, like, no, you know, everybody loves him,

734
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: but also everybody's a little sick of him. You know,

735
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: he's he's a likable guy, but maybe he's not really

736
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: doing the most important job in town, whatever it may be.

737
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: You almost get the impression that if he were to

738
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: encounter real monsters later, nobody would believe him because he

739
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: has cried dinosaur too many times.

740
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: True.

741
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 3: Meanwhile, after Gamma and Beta land on Earth, they come

742
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 3: out to explore their surroundings and there is this hilarious

743
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 3: scene where they just appear to get extreme pleasure from

744
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: the discovery of breathable atmosphere.

745
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yep, this is a great part. My wife actually

746
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: walked in the room and saw this part and she

747
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: was laughing as well. They're just totally turned on by

748
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: this planet's atmosphere and they do a great job of

749
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: playing this up.

750
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the two aliens come across Loreano on

751
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: the road while he's out wandering, and they are just

752
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: immediately smitten, right, as I guess nearly anyone would be.

753
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 3: But so there are some jokes about them trying to

754
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: find a language where they can both communicate, but it

755
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: turns out the aliens do speak Spanish. I think they've

756
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 3: got sort of encyclopedic knowledge of all languages in the

757
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: Solar System and a radio uplink to their robot Tour.

758
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: They like they look things up. They like, in the

759
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: middle of the conversation, freeze Loriano and then look up

760
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 3: like Mexico to learn things about it. And then also

761
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: when he asks are you two from the circus? I

762
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: assume because of the strange way they're dressed, they have

763
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: to look up what a circus is, and this was

764
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 3: really funny. Tour gets back to them and says, well,

765
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: a circus is where animals do human jobs and humans

766
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: do animal jobs.

767
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: I love that part.

768
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but so oh, and then they're also like,

769
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: soh hey, Loriano, are all earthmen as gorgeous as you?

770
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: And he's like, no, I admit it. No, they're not,

771
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 3: because it should be stressed.

772
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: All the males that they have kidnapped thus far are

773
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: literal monsters. Yeah, they're not even remotely human. They're big,

774
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: like scaly or shaggy or pulsating monsters, and so yeah,

775
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: like it makes sense that they see this guy and

776
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: they're like, well, well, heck, we can stop the project

777
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: right here.

778
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: Right, So they split. They tell him they'll meet him later,

779
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 3: and then they go to their ship to phone home.

780
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: They're like, Commander, we have hunks and they're going to

781
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: bring him back to Venus, And so I think some

782
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: other stuff happens here. But then eventually we get back

783
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 3: to the home of Loreano, where he also he lives

784
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: with his little brother who he takes care of named Chewy,

785
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: and Chewey plays a decisive role in the climax of

786
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: the film in a big violent showdown with some monsters.

787
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: But eventually Gamma and Beta come by Loreano and Chewy's

788
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: house where they want to learn about love. Like they

789
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 3: show up at the door and they're like, hey, we

790
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 3: don't have love on our planet. Can you explain to

791
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: us what love is? And he explains love by singing

792
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 3: a song accompanied by a jukebox that's in his house.

793
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know what to make of this. I mean,

794
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: it certainly pays off in the plot, but I was

795
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: asking myself, why would there be a jukebox in the house,

796
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: not only a jukebox, but a jukebox they have to

797
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: use a quarter on so they're having to pay to

798
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: use it. And I don't I'd never heard of this

799
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: being a thing, and maybe it wasn't. Maybe it just

800
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: makes sense in this film.

801
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: Who would come and collect the quarters for the jukebox

802
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: inside your house?

803
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. But this man loves music, so maybe

804
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: it's a good investment.

805
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: But I think here actually is where we start to

806
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: get a taste of conflict between the visiting aliens, because

807
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 3: because it starts to become clear that maybe both Gamma

808
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: and Beta want Loreano for themselves, but Loriano seems to

809
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: only love Gamma. He's just like not into Beta.

810
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: Right, He's just not into her. And you know, he's

811
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: very upfront, you know, he's he's very clear that he's

812
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: not French. Yeah, he's not interested in two women. He

813
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: wants one woman and there has to be this mutual

814
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: attraction there. So yeah, he's just not feeling it with Beta.

815
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 3: It's literally in the song, he's like singing lyrics about

816
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: how he says love is when two people love each other.

817
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 3: If there were three, that would be French.

818
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: Yes, there are at least a couple of digs at

819
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: France in the picture, and also a really awesome dig

820
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: at Texas at one point.

821
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 3: So the comedy's pretty much I forgot that part.

822
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: It's something about, oh, they like big things in Texas,

823
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: what would they think of this? But I can't remember

824
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: what they were referencing.

825
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, was it a monster?

826
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: Probably a monster, yeah, or spaceship or something.

827
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: Loriano is also so lovable in the gentlemanly way. He

828
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 3: sort of explains things to Beta, so she also wants

829
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: him for herself, but he's like, hey, you know, you

830
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 3: can't make somebody love you. Look I like this other lady.

831
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And luckily he has some songs prepared about the

832
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: nature of love, right, he sings them for us, and

833
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: so that's very They're great.

834
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now we haven't really gotten into the monsters yet,

835
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: so maybe we should explain the monster subplot and then

836
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 3: how that links up with what's going on with Loreano

837
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: and Gamma and Beta.

838
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's dive into these monsters and certainly jump

839
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: in if I if you have a different name than

840
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: I have, because I think the name did differ slightly.

841
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: So first of all, let's talk about this big reptilian

842
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: cyclops character. He's the one on that Italian movie poster

843
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: that I that I described earlier. This creature's name is

844
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Uk spelled uk, and he is the King of the

845
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Fire Planet.

846
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so he was also called Uk in mind.

847
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: And he speaks in a kind of brutish way. He

848
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 3: says like me king fire Planet.

849
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's all actually, he's like, we're gonna fight,

850
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: you know. That's that's he's he's a very brutal kind

851
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: of an alien. But then we also have a cerebral alien.

852
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: And when I mean cerebril, I mean he's got a

853
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: big old brain, a big pulsating brain. This is the

854
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: Prince of Mars. This is in my version Tagoul.

855
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 3: In mind, he I think he was Tao waal Okay.

856
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, so he's the Prince of Mars. Yeah. I

857
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 3: think you only maybe find that out late. I'm not sure,

858
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: But at first he just looks kind of like a

859
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I will say again, the monster design is great.

860
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: He's got these kind of translucent layers over his eyeballs

861
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: and you can see these obscure pupils moving around back

862
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: behind the translucent layer. It's a very creepy effect. I

863
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: want to just emphasize yet again, sometimes how strangely scary

864
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: the monsters are for this light musical, romantic comedy.

865
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of love went into the craft of

866
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: making these monsters. And yeah, you're not going to watch

867
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: this and think, oh my goodness, real monsters. You know,

868
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: they look like movie monsters of this time period, but

869
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: they're they're really good. I loved watching them do their thing.

870
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: But he's kind of like the brain mutant from This

871
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 3: Island Earth, except maybe actually even more more lovely. He's

872
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: got the big brain head, the creepy eyes, and he's

873
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: got this this fish like kissy mouth, the kind of

874
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 3: trumpet lips that work back and forth in a disgusting manner.

875
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of these, you know, all of you can

876
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: certainly connect to other monster traditions and other films of

877
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: the time period. But I love how the stinct they

878
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: are in the stuff to blow your mind. Discord. Somebody

879
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 1: had shared a video about the sameness of monsters in

880
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: modern pictures, which is an interesting argument that maybe I

881
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: have some critiques on. But you can't. You cannot say

882
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: that these monsters are all the same in this picture.

883
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: They all feel distinct. They feel like they definitely arise

884
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: from different planets, from different different evolutionary paths, and you

885
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 1: get a taste of their culture as well.

886
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah, so we had the brain mutant, he's

887
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 3: the Prince of Mars. But then there is also this

888
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: furry spider beetle. He's like a cross between a giant

889
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: killer insect and a squatch.

890
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is outr of the Red Planet, and he's

891
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: ravenous and warlike, but plotting, not just brutal violence like

892
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: the King of the Fire Planet. No, he's more like,

893
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's sneaky. He has some wonderful lines to

894
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: his this bit where he's speaking in this creepy voice,

895
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: and the translation I had was, I am Utyr of

896
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: the Red Planet, and I will devour your entrails by

897
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: the light of Utar and its seven moons. So good.

898
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I was saying, strangely dark and good like

899
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 3: creepy imagery. In my version, I think he was actually

900
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: called Crassus, which is the most different of names we've

901
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: reviewed so far. I'm not sure what explains that difference.

902
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: Now, the other male alien in this picture is this

903
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: fleshless creature that kind of looks like a bear skeleton

904
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of floating there. He has no name as

905
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: far as I can tell, and all we know is

906
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: that is his homeworld is a place where the people

907
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: gave up their material form ages ago, and now they're

908
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: just animate beast bones floating around and talking and laughing creepily.

909
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're rasping phantoms from beyond. Who are just who

910
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: are just pure embodied hate? And our fang bone buddy here, Yeah,

911
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: he's a mockery of life itself. Yeah.

912
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: The one thing they all have in common, aside from

913
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: being males, is that they all detest the fact that

914
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: they have been kidnapped. They do not like it at all.

915
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: But they're powerless against the superior technology of.

916
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: Venus, Right, Gamma and Beta have it locked down, because

917
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: as powerful as these monsters are, they cannot overpower science,

918
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 3: which Gamma and Beta have on their side. They've got

919
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: some powerful technology that even a real, real strong, beefy

920
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: reptile cyclops can't overcome.

921
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: But of course, as the plot develops, like we said,

922
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: love tears this duo apart. You know, Gamma is thirst

923
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: for blood. Yeah, love and thirst for blood. Beta gets

924
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: fed up and she resorts to her old ways. We

925
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: get this big reveal, which I think is an ideal

926
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: reveal for any movie. This is a great plot twist

927
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: for any film. Suddenly reveal that one of your main

928
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: characters is a space vampire. She gives into her dark

929
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: thirst is essentially you know, cursed by Gamma for her

930
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: for giving into this thirst. And then Betas basically decides, well, heck,

931
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let the males loose. I'm going to

932
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: strike a bargain with the males, and we're just going

933
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,799
Speaker 1: to rampage over this planet and we're going to do

934
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: what we like with Earth.

935
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. So Beta vamps a guy she like,

936
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 3: you know, there's some rancher guy, and she drinks his

937
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: blood and then when Gamma finds out, it's like, oh no,

938
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: that's a death sentence. Back on Venus again. Politics like

939
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: a vamporism is a political issue in the interplanetary politics

940
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 3: of this movie, where it's like a known crime that

941
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: has been observed and dealt with in the past, and

942
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: if you drink the blood of a human you will

943
00:50:58,640 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: face the death penalty on v.

944
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it raises a lot of questions, Like I was wondering,

945
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: what is it like on the shadow planet? Is everyone

946
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: a vampire there? Or are these like former Venusians who

947
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: had to acquire some sort of vampiric infection in order

948
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: to survive on a shadow world? Like what's going on here?

949
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: There's something there, There's something under the surface. And it's

950
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: so tantalizing because it feels thought out, it feels whole.

951
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like just a you know, just a

952
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: scrap of sci fi thrown into this romance.

953
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Again the movie, it's catching you off guard. Every

954
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: single twist and turn. We were screaming at this, just

955
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: an amazing twist.

956
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: And when we say space vampire, she can turn into

957
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: a bat and it looks pretty good, looks pretty good

958
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 1: a big.

959
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: Bat at one point. At one point, Lolo Gonzalez like

960
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: points at it because it's swooping down to attack Gamma

961
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 3: and he's like, look a vulture. But so yeah, from

962
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 3: here we get moving into the third act.

963
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, There's one more important bit here, and

964
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: that is that Beta has also a lot with the

965
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: Prince of Mars. So I don't know if they're going

966
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: to be married and rule over Mars. There's some talk

967
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: of this, though it's also pointed out by the Prince

968
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: of Mars that he doesn't particularly find her attractive. But

969
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: it seems like they're willing to work through this.

970
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a great part where he's like, you

971
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: are very ugly, but I what does he say? He's like,

972
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: you are extremely ugly to me, but I admire your

973
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: dedication to hatred or something. Yes, And she's like, oh,

974
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: Like she's really excited by this observation.

975
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Her plan now is so with the loose Males,

976
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: they're going to destroy the initial settlement of Earthlings and

977
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: then they're going to spread out and just take out

978
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the planet. But she realizes if she's

979
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: going to lead this, she needs to she needs to

980
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: assign tasks to the different monsters, so she divides humanity

981
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: up among the loose males. So Utr gets the children,

982
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: that's the spider monster uk or Uk. He gets the animals,

983
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: and he seems fine with this. He's like, yes, let

984
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: me at those cows.

985
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: I will eat cows.

986
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Beta and the Prince of Mars they're going

987
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: to I think they're just going to get the blood

988
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: of humanity. They they bond over their thirst for blood,

989
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 1: and they're like, let's do it. They seem to leave

990
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: the Bone Guy out of this entirely. He shows up,

991
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: lad does he? He disappears from the movie at one point.

992
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: He is in the scene where all the aliens, all

993
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: the loose males attack our hero, but he's not very

994
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: obvious in that scene. You kind of see clattering bones

995
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: in the background, like maybe they couldn't figure out how

996
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: to properly bring that to life on screen. I don't know.

997
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: I really thought that the Bone Guy disappeared from the movie,

998
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 3: but yeah, he could be wrong, so I don't recall

999
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 3: him in the conclusion. Does anybody defeat him in the

1000
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: final battle?

1001
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 1: No? No, he does kind of vanish at that point

1002
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: because all the other monsters get some sort of a

1003
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: cool death. So Ouk's face is burned off by I

1004
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: think by the robot. They're kind of wrestling.

1005
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 3: There's a robot or burns in my thing? Yeah, m hm.

1006
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: The brainiac guy, the big brain guy is shot in

1007
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: the eye by the boy with like a slingshot I think, right, yeah, yeah,

1008
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: with a slingshot, and then his brain deflates like a

1009
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: punctured volleyball. Yeah, that's a nice grizzly scene. Utyr the

1010
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: spider Beast is forced to bite himself and kill himself

1011
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: with his own venom brutal. Oh, and then Beta has

1012
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: a pretty awesome death scene as well.

1013
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, she goes to attack Gamma, and Gamma sort of

1014
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,919
Speaker 3: like dodges out of the way at the right time,

1015
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: and then Beta gets staked with like vampire staked with

1016
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: a branch that's sticking up.

1017
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then all that, the Fleshless One is never defeated,

1018
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe he we don't know what

1019
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: part of humanity was given over to him. Perhaps he

1020
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: just went out and claimed it and he's the one

1021
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: who wins the day.

1022
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 3: Oh but there's one last thing I almost don't want

1023
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: to say because I don't want to spoil it because

1024
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 3: it's so good. But there's a stinger right at the

1025
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: end of the movie. If you don't want to hear it,

1026
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: if you don't want to be spoiled, you want to

1027
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 3: see the movie for yourself, maybe you should stop right here,

1028
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 3: but if you're okay with it. The surprise at the

1029
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 3: end where Tor and the jukebox fall in love. Yes,

1030
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 3: amazing reveal.

1031
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Tour makes eyes at the jukebox pretty early.

1032
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: He's like hey uh. And then at the end they're

1033
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: happy together. They're leaving the planet, they have found each other,

1034
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: and they're flying away in a spaceship.

1035
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. He like compliments the jukebox. He's like going up

1036
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: to the glass saying, like, what beautiful bulbs you have?

1037
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: Yes. So at the end, everybody's happy, everyone's in love.

1038
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Monsters and the forces of evil have been defeated, and

1039
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: it seems like political stability has been maintained for the

1040
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: interplanetary community.

1041
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 3: Gamma in the end learns that it was wrong to

1042
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 3: kidnap males from all the planets to take them back

1043
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 3: to Venus. Instead, she's like, hey, look, I'm not going

1044
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 3: back to Venus. I found a man on Earth i'm

1045
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 3: in love with, so we're just going to hang out

1046
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 3: here in Mexico.

1047
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, though he no longer has a cow, so I'm

1048
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: not sure what he's going to do. Oh yeah, you

1049
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: know a cow, you know, and stripped to bones by.

1050
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 3: To bones with a stand. So yo. Yeah, the cyclops

1051
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 3: reptile comes in and like bites the cow and then

1052
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: the cow is just clean, like a bone model of

1053
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 3: a cow on a stand with like bars.

1054
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did a great job.

1055
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: But anyway, I was gonna say, Loriano, he's always going

1056
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 3: to find a way to get by.

1057
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, he's a survivor.

1058
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 3: So ship of monsters what a delight.

1059
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one really is a delight. I highly recommend

1060
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: viewing this now. I think I should also add that

1061
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: all versions of this are apparently in black and white.

1062
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any evidence of an actual color

1063
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: cut of the film. If you think back to our

1064
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: Santo and the Tomb of Dracula episode, we discussed how

1065
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: at least later, at least, you know, close to a

1066
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: decade later, you had this tradition of shooting in black

1067
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: and white and in color for different markets. I don't

1068
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: think that was the case here. I ran across some

1069
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: color images of the film, but I think these were

1070
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: just colored stills that were used to promote it.

1071
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh that would make sense.

1072
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still, even in black and white, this film

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Speaker 1: is just it's so alive you'll just be drawn right now.

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Speaker 3: People, or oh forever?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well, if you would like to check out

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Speaker 1: additional episodes of Weird House Cinema, you can find it

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Speaker 1: find that wherever you get your podcasts. Weird House Cinema

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Speaker 1: find our core episodes of the show Stuff to Blow

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Speaker 1: your Mind on Tuesdays and Thursdays, an Artifact episode on Wednesdays,

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Speaker 1: listener mail on Mondays, and Vault Entry over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: That's a rerun.

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Speaker 3: Huge thanks as always to our excellent audio producer Seth

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Johnson. If you would like to get in touch

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