1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast, Slimy book club. M, Hey, 2 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: best friend, who's hot coping at door? It's all your friends, 3 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: you filthy home. Cousin's gone and we've got books and 4 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: a bottle of wine. You killed the wood books. It's gossips, 5 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: it's my sens Studio fifty four. I mean it's basically 6 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: a Fallinium book limited book clubs, secretly on book club, 7 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: little boys, every book club brown, Hey, best friend, how's 8 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: my little cow girl? How is my Spanish Underlucian horse 9 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: over there? M I'm a stallion, I'm raging, I'm wild, 10 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm muscular, I'm the object of it. Eyteen girls to see. 11 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: I am prilled to see you. I am so excited 12 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: to see who you are. Your haircut looks great. Um, 13 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: it's growing out in a way that is totally normal, 14 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: which wow, thank you so much for saying that, sure, 15 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: because that's always a fairy. We're like the three weeks after, 16 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: but you're like, what's gonna happen there? Yeah, no, it's 17 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: looking it's it's looking even more you but even it 18 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: still looks fresh. Also like I'm growing into it, and yeah, 19 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: my face is growing into it. Absolutely, your face as 20 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 1: so beautiful and you don't need to lose a pound, 21 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: despite what the Nashville Record executive say. Even if a 22 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: National Record executive said, Okay, I actually need you to 23 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: lose twenty and I want you know, you to get 24 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: a nose job, I would never say that to you. 25 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: The book, the book, the book. You're probably wondering, what 26 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: book is it this week? Could they read another book 27 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: this week? It? Is it possible? Is it possible that 28 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: these two culture hounds would be able to devour yet 29 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: more pages? After all the pages, after all the page 30 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: between their high powered jobs and high powered relation. Exactly 31 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: how are they cramming all of this book? And yeah, 32 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: we did. We crammed this four hundred page Shania Twaine memoir. Yes, boots, 33 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: it's called from this moment on um So. Shan Twain, 34 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: of course, is an iconic, iconic, I would say, the 35 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: queen of nineties crossoverty country pop pop. She is, of 36 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: course Canadian, which many of you may not know, and 37 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: not only just kind of like, oh she's from Toronto, 38 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: Like she is a Canadian, she is from Bush Country 39 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: and she says bush a lot in this book to like, 40 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: I guess I would use the term boonies maybe. I know, 41 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say I would say, like she even 42 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: says the word yeah boots, is I think so America. Yeah, 43 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: I would say just like country or like super rural maybe, 44 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: but I don't say the bush. I mean, that's like 45 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: only in Australia, but I guess that's in the Commonwealth 46 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: of Northern Northern. She was she's from negative forty degree 47 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: Celsius Land. Yeah, which also kind of now it makes 48 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: her first album cover make a little bit more sense 49 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: because she's been like full Aska and she's in this 50 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: like full like Julie of the Wolves, like sharpa jacket 51 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: and then there's like a literally full husky and there's 52 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: like ice fishing happening, and you're just like, oh, okay, 53 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: they're just doing this look for the shoot. But I 54 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: love the look, and you're like, oh no, You're like, 55 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: so she's actually from Timmins Ever been ever been to Timmans. No? 56 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: But I have a little the most mild gossip, which 57 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: oh about Timmins. Well, I slept with this guy who 58 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: was who was actually he still is kid, He was 59 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: um and he was like talking about Shania Twain and 60 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: he was like oh, you know, she's a Timmins girl. 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: And she just like whenever she comes back to town, 62 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: like she buys everyone like a state dinner. Yeah, and 63 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: she's so like she kind of references in his book, 64 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: but like she's very in that way. Like I feel 65 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: like Jennifer Lewis is like so Kenosha and it's so 66 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: like she's tim She's a Timmins girl, Kinlock girl. She's 67 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: a Timmins girl. Yeah, And she's just like she's a 68 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: girl who done good and then comes home and like 69 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: does well for the people, which I do love. She 70 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: really is not I think I did not really was 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: not prepared for actually the completely insane childhood. Yeah she had. 72 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So she has this incredibly traumatic childhood. 73 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: She's also deeply Canadian, so she's really really forgiving and 74 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: polite and like understanding and like constantly being incredibly compassionate 75 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: towards everyone and like knock getting so mad even though 76 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: like she literally watched her father like beat almost killed 77 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: her mother probably every single night, and there's this very 78 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: very intensity where she literally thinks her mom's dead and 79 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: he's like bashing his mom into a toilet, and she's 80 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: lifeless on the floor and like her sisters and her 81 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: are like on the cream, screaming and like, and it's 82 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: in the middle of the Canadian wilderness. And she's like, 83 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: and I thought my mother was dad, but then she'll 84 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: just be like in so much the book, she's like, 85 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: but I totally understand. And my dad like had his 86 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: reasons and he is from like the Native Indian community, 87 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: and like he had struggles with alcoholism and he rose 88 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: out of that and he like didn't make a lot 89 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: of money and like, well, and she really starts off 90 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: so the first like this book is like mad long 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and like the first two hundred pages are of the 92 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: book are like all about like her horrible childhood and 93 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: like the beatings and just like them eating like bread 94 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: with sugar and that's the only thing that gosh, what 95 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: nobody in the poor man Sandwich where he's just like 96 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: mayonnaise and white bread and there's your sandwich. And she 97 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: was like, and I loved his resourcefulness and he always 98 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: looked in the bright side of life. And then it's 99 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: like and like he had an amazing sense of humor. 100 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: And from the beginning, she's also like, you will read 101 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: this book and I just want to kind of get 102 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: it out there that I do of my parents so much, 103 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: and I do love Sherry and Sharon. She's Wayne and 104 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: and I do forgive him and even in the parts 105 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: when you know she's like sixteen and like he never 106 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: like sexually abused her, and then all of a sudden, 107 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: like when she like gets stacked and like starts becoming 108 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: a teen, then he gets starts creep super creepy, and 109 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: he hovers over her bad and just whispers, You're a 110 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: filthy slut, You're stupid horror. And she's like just lying 111 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: in bed asleep, just being like I'm just gonna kind 112 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: of pretend this doesn't happened. And meanwhile they're always sleeping, 113 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: like eight kids to a room, so all the other 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: kids are in bed. Bung says the dad is just 115 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: like you stupid, spread your legs, filthy horror. And then 116 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: she's like her later and she's like, wait, so, like 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: did you ever hear that? Like dad could of randomly 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: be like saying like you're a disgusting slut. You are, 119 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: like while we were kind of asleep and he was 120 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: saying it to me, and she was like, no, yeah, 121 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, Oh my God. I told her heard that, 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: and she was like, yea, she never checked him. My 123 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: brothers if they heard that, And I'm like, and then 124 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: right after that, she's like, and yes, I was absolutely 125 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: scared of him after that, But more I actually felt 126 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: bad for him because clearly there was something wrong with 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: him that he was saying that. And I was like, damn, 128 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: that's yeah, and just ask like it's so Canadian. I mean, 129 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: I think it's also Canadian, but I get this sense 130 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: towards the end that she has gone through seventeen years 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: of meditation and just like it is obsessed with deep Joe. Yeah, 132 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: and like so some people that she is not really 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: forgiving well try funny how basically the whole book, well, 134 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about yes, the insane fairy, but babe, she's 135 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: a little like not blaming men towards the end. Okay, 136 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: let's start. Okay, so okay, but like back to just like, 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: here's one thing about the length of this book. It 138 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: is four hundred pages. I feel like there's like a 139 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: full fifty pages at the beginning where she's like and 140 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: I know you're wondering why write a book, but here 141 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: it was very soleb it's important to write a book 142 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: to tell your story and to get rid of those demons. 143 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: And some people say no, barry the demons. And it's 144 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: like most people do say like get them out. Well, 145 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm sure it was more like, well maybe 146 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: just like Grandma cousin from Timmins is like, you know, 147 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: that's just a family, and like you don't talk about 148 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: your family like that, you don't discuss the family, um. 149 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: And then I'm sure also some random Nashville people were 150 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: just like you don't want to be talking about your 151 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: marriage like that, take the high road, and she was like, no, 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: I am going to write this. Honestly, it makes sense. 153 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: It's like she kind of like wrapped on her career, 154 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: at least the like Haitia of her career, like in 155 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, So so why not why not 156 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: get this out? And this book came out and I 157 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: want to say, like twenty twelve or something. I thin, yeah, 158 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: because I think she starts writing in twenty ten as 159 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: like right to get up a marriage, a marriage and 160 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: like her whole life is really shifting. Um. So another 161 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: insane thing about Shania Twain is that she does currently 162 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,599 Speaker 1: live in Switzerland. So she has lived in an insane 163 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: like Hopsburg, like Neu Schwansenstein, like chateau mansion that evil 164 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: past Geneva for like the past twenty years. Insane part 165 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: about this book is like how the first two hundred 166 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: page just is just like and dad kicked me down 167 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: to her basement and kicked me into the chickens and 168 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: then I cut the chickens heads off, and then I 169 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: like worked on a tree planting thing, and then like 170 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: cut to page three seventy she's like, when I'm not 171 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: standing over my auger range picking out, I mean, it's 172 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: the most I would says the interior of the chateau 173 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: when she talks about like the ceramic codd like stuff, 174 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, you're really you really got into 175 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: interior design, and I guess what else you're gonna do 176 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: when you are trapped in this like apps it is. 177 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: It's so that movie with fran Drescher, Oh, Beautician of 178 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: the Beast isn't no where? Doesn't she like go to 179 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: live in a spist castle on that movie? Well she does, 180 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: but that's because she's the nanny for the like president. 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: It was very pretty good, but like Shania is so 182 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: nineties with her like teasing, yes, Pops and like left 183 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: and she's going to live in this But then she 184 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: marries the man, so she's actually mary Anne, the housekeeper. 185 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: So we keep on referencing this thing. And I do 186 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 1: want to talk about her childhood more, but just so 187 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: you have to get it out. I mean, this is 188 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: famous gossip. Her husband Lang, famous producer of a CDC 189 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: def Leppard, who she made her first iconic album with 190 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: coming Over, and her second and her third. Yeah, you 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: know they were collaborators. We're talking hits any man of mine? 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: Don't that don't impress me much, you know, And I 193 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: feel like a one man um you know, from this moment, 194 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: from this moment on, what's the one? You know, you're 195 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: still the one that's about that. And before that, he 196 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: had a long story career working for rock and roller 197 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Ferner Springstea, I mean, anyway, a lot of them. So 198 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: they're in the Swiss Alps whatever. Cut to two thousand 199 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: and eight. She and I becomes very good friends with 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: his secretary mary Anne. I mean, it's this is why 201 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: it's so horror film, because she is this like evil, 202 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: haunted French witch who is the housekeeper of this like 203 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: crazy chateau that's just like looking out over like Geneva 204 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: and everything is like crazy versaw furniture and then like, oh, 205 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: you know, it's like so many bearskin rugs and candlesticks 206 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and it's just like you can see your breath and 207 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: it's like and there's just one other person in the 208 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: house and like this's just like clinking, clangling, and I 209 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: had no friends there. And then she so she's always 210 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: been like, so Marianne was a little cold to me 211 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: at first, but we did, over the course of nine 212 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: years become friends because there was no one else to 213 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: speak in my haunted Geneva castle. So they finally become close. 214 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: And then they both have kids. They like they they're 215 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: pregnant together, and they're so like talking all the time 216 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: and like doing marriage and life and semiotics and they're 217 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: they're opening up to each other and she's finally being 218 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: like and Marianne, this like random evil French witch, like 219 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: is my best friend now and that's fine, and like 220 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: her sisters aren't canna and like her. But she also 221 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: definitely you can tell reading this book, it's kind of 222 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: like when you become that rich and successful and she 223 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: just does not have many things. She's also someone though, 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: like let's just she's not really like such a social butterfly. Yeah, 225 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: like she's she does not party, she does not drink, 226 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: she does not she don't even have a Coca Cola. 227 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: She's like openly like, yes we're croptops and be flirty. 228 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: But she's also like, and I do only have sex 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: with someone who I care about. I did love when 230 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: she was basically like honestly like, yes I wore kroptops, 231 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: it was still like pretty tame. Yeah, she's saying. Over 232 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: the nineties, she's been like I don't know what y'all 233 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: are figuring out about, Like yeah, like I'm not really 234 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: this like like I'm not a crazy slut. I'm not 235 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: like such a sex symbol. Like yes, I was like 236 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: very hot, but yes I'm extremely hot. So but anyway, 237 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: this one Maryanne ends up cheats on her husband with 238 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: Shania's husband when Shania is like in New Zealand. After 239 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: that like her husband with her like the woman who 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: had become her best friend and it wasn't Eva. Oh, 241 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry this woman. She paints this woman to 242 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: be the biggest snake in the universe, and what the 243 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: woman would just hiss at her in the Geneva cobblestone street. 244 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: It would just be like you stupid loser, He's mine 245 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: now to see where she where. Mary Anne's walking towards 246 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: her like literally on the frozen frozen on Geneva also gay, 247 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: like Geniva is insane, never bands, but it's a city 248 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: of like only Russian oligarch and like diplomats, diplomats and diamonds, 249 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: like it's like the most evil villain city like you 250 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: can possibly imagine. And this just like evil woman's like 251 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: walk I'm sure she has like a hand muff and 252 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: she's with like six of her witch friends and like 253 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: poor Schnaya is just like walking along the stone like 254 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: crying alone. And then just like mary Anne walks by 255 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: her and like cackles, wait and she says she's like 256 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: and she's in her big black Versace sunglasses and it's like, 257 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, they're just so cheesy, like airports better just 258 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: like you get with the freelow, with the Laurel. It's 259 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: duty free vibe. So that is kind of the whole 260 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: second half of the book. So that's who we mentioned 261 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: when we will be talking about Marianne. And so the 262 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: first time I heard. I mean, I feel like I 263 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: say a lot of this and the pot and it 264 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: turns out, you know how I got into Shania. My 265 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: sister came home from her horse camp pony farm with 266 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: a burned Shania Twin CD, which is so funny because 267 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Shania Twain is the biggest horse girl and like doesn't 268 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: have friends and only connects with her horses yea, and 269 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: her dog. Oh of course her her German shepherd who 270 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: died of heartbreak. The animal I was like absolutely cheered 271 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: up at points in this book, one because it's completely insane, 272 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't really side parts, but then the emotion that 273 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: I poured into the animal relationships because those are the 274 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: biggest relationships. It is such a nineties movie kind of 275 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: homeward bound vibe sometimes because like she means, she really 276 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: an anthropomorphizes the animals and she's just like and the 277 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: dog or whatever she's like, and Billy like would get 278 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: so angry he would gnaw through his steel chain just 279 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: to come protect me on a video seth And that's 280 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: just like the only man in her life. And then 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: she has like another German shepherd who her like well, 282 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean, she is like has been almost like raped 283 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: a thousand times, so no wonder she like gets tons 284 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: of German shepherds to she needs, Like, yeah, I'm absolute 285 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: like art. But your sister came home from from horse 286 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: camp with a burn CD of Garth Brooks and Shania 287 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: Twain and I feel like I hadn't. I was so 288 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: like R and B. Then it was like into country, 289 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, because my part, you know, they'd turned me 290 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: into Johnny Cash and I was into that. But that 291 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: was like old school, and it was on the CD. 292 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: It was Garth Brooks songs, Rodeo and the thunder Rolls 293 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: and then the whole first the whole second Shania CD, 294 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: which is was how she got super famous. That's the 295 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: moment who's ben off your boots been under and any 296 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: man of mine? And I was like, fuck, this is 297 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: the same, Yeah, this is fucking rocky. Yes, socks off, 298 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: this is rocking my socks off. And we always used 299 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: to like a joke about this photo that she talks 300 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: about in the book, that Bo Derek's husband took of 301 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: her in the pink cowboy hat submerged in water, and 302 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: I just remember thinking, and it was bow Derek's that 303 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: um and I just remember thinking that was the funniest 304 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: photo in the entire world. And we would always like 305 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: joke about like how her husband's named mut Lang and 306 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: how that was random and wow. So you were really 307 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: sort of early on the Schnai training then, and then 308 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: of course, you know, I feel like that was probably 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: age you know, nine, whatever, and then two years later 310 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: that's when she goes full crossover. Yeah, you know, that 311 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: don't impress me much. You know, everyone's singing that in 312 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: the halls. Come on over with such a sound album. 313 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: And of course I knew the music are on the radio, 314 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: but I wasn't like really like I wasn't really I 315 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: I didn't really get into country music until I think 316 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: after high school, and you and I both love country 317 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: in college and really connected over there. I remember it 318 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: was kind of a honey I second honeymoon for us. 319 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: It really was. And I've actually kind of forget what 320 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: my first like favorite country stars were. Maybe it was 321 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: like Trayce Atkins and like because we went to go 322 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: see and Jody Messina Mohegan's son. Was that Mohegan or 323 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: the Wister Centrum? I'm pretty sure it was Mohican. It's 324 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: very just like most people finding out about bands through 325 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: like a VFW flyer, and it was like us finding 326 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: about a buck comedians Mohegans like yeah, website from two 327 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: thousand and three were like that. So we got turned 328 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: onto just like really famous touring comedians and just like 329 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: stadium to our country stars and we were just like, Wow, 330 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: let's go see this hot up and comer. Trays Atkins 331 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: was just like a fifty year old man who sings 332 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: about school rings. But probably also I'm wondering because it 333 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: was like I got into Shania and I love that, 334 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: but it wasn't like I didn't become a true I 335 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: think insane country fan till my mom's friend and Nat 336 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: who was kind of like her personal organizer accountant friend 337 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: through the parent my parents divorced. She taught me how 338 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: to drive and she had a huge leather bound CD 339 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: booklet half hair Metal and she was might a half 340 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: country and so we would listen and she took me 341 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: to see Reba old school Tanya Tucker. But it was 342 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: also like getting the new new people was like Kenny Chelsney, 343 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: like Clint Black, you know, Garth Brooks, Reba McIntyre. I 344 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: feel like it was I want to say it, I 345 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: was listening to country radio in college, and that's how 346 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: I got into so much music. Or maybe it was 347 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: like you or Daniel were like, oh, download this album 348 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: on lime wire and then we were rocking it. Do 349 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: you remember when Taylor Swift started, when she invented herself 350 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: and like, I had been listening to our songs separately, 351 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: like so much because it was like popular and you 352 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: had listening to separately and I was studying abroad. Oh 353 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: my god. I remember message of being like, oh my god, 354 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: there's this new song. You have to hear it. It's 355 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: so good. And you were like, oh my god, is 356 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: it our song? And I was like yeah, and we 357 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: were both like it's incredible. Like she's such a genius. 358 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this girl, Taylor Swift. Wow, that's so beautiful. 359 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I know, it's incredible. It's like two thousand and eight. 360 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: This is why I think it's gonna be really good 361 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: for us to spend some time apart actually and for 362 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: you to go to abroad so we can actually find 363 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: each other again. No, it's so important if you have 364 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: a friendship in which some one person sometimes goes abroad, 365 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: like make sure that that happening because absence takes the 366 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: heart grow under and you kind of and then you 367 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: find these connections that you're like, you're like, oh and 368 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: like maybe you're in the rain nose the whole time, right, 369 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: But I do think that, Yeah, that Trace Atkins concert 370 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: with Jody Massena that really turns onto that kind of 371 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: just mainstream current day. Well, the thing about Jody Messina 372 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: and Trace is they're a little bit like the Bots 373 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of be lists. They're b lists, and they're a 374 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: little bit kind of like warmed over, Like they're kind 375 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: of trying to do like the trends of country music now, 376 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: but like you know, like my give a Dam's busted, 377 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: that Jody Messina song as I feel like my given 378 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: Arms busters. But I think Head's Tail, you know, Head's 379 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: Carolina Tales, California. I think that maybe we felt that, 380 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: but that came out that was so many years ago. Yeah, 381 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: that was but I give it Him's best, sad. I 382 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: feel it was more two thousand and three and it 383 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: was trying to be this bluesy thing. Well, springs me 384 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: to one of my first Shannaia memories, which was watching 385 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: the video for I'm Going to Get You Good, which 386 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: was off of Up On pop up video H one 387 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: because vh onone was always trying to be like, oh yeah, 388 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: we're not just like dumb like MTV and just showing videos. Yeah, 389 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: brain bad pop up Like I'm sorry boot Vibes, Like 390 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: there's probably such already and it's like pop up video 391 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: for Davos, like for Oreo, and like it's already happened. 392 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: But like I remember seeing this video and the video 393 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: is very and this is what I mean about like 394 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: trying to sort of like your producers and your team 395 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: just start kind of start to like fit you into 396 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: the trends at the time. Yeah, because that album Up 397 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: was well, the album mop has three different versions, which 398 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: is like one is this like Eastern international dance and 399 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: she's like we used Eastern Gentic satar because like everything 400 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: in the early two thousands was like had that like 401 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: Buddha bar sound to it. And then there's the country 402 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: version of the album, and then there's the crossover pop 403 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: version of the album. But the video is very like 404 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: space and like because you know which is like I'm 405 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: blood up, like yeah, I was slay and like everything 406 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: had that kind of like disc proto disc magazine like 407 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: futuristic look, and I remember thinking like she's fake. I 408 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: remember like seeing the difference of being like, oh, like 409 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: this is someone who's like trying to do this new 410 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: thing and it's like not totally working. And it was 411 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: like one of the first times as a cultural commentator 412 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: that I was just like, oh, I can see when 413 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: someone's being like maybe a little bit inauthentic. Okay, that's 414 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of fabulous. That's a paper, which is also that 415 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: also kind of makes me sad about Shania's career, because 416 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: so when she talks about why don't you shoot her 417 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: first music video, she's very much like the only she 418 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: She was like everyone is a copycat, and she was 419 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: complaining that Nashville had like gotten to PG Yeah, well 420 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: because they were like so Christian, I'm afraid of Yeah, 421 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: she was like what happened to Lauretta Lynne Time out 422 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the Pale and like Dolly Parton and like the Outlaws. 423 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: And it's also, I mean that is such a theme 424 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: in country music, where it's like what happened to Whalen 425 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: and what happened to real country and what happened when 426 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Hank drove into town complaining about it and start being 427 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: about thank you a little less talk a little more conversation, 428 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: which is which I think is what Shania did, and 429 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: she was like, I'm not gonna make just every other 430 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: music video, like I want to make fun music videos, 431 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: which is then why she hired also Bo Derek's husband, 432 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: and then her like, I mean, so her first video 433 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: is just like her in a crop top that they 434 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: like crunch music Television. They would not play the video 435 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: at first because they were like, this is scandalous. Yeah. Meanwhile, 436 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: like Madonna's humping a burning gap that's on MTV. That's 437 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: that's how Christian gotten. Also, the top she's wearing is 438 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: so funny. It's crop top, full peasant bell sleeves and 439 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: just like flares and then this huge floppy hat. Yeah, alright, 440 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: emailed it too. And then her videos do get so 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: fun and she's like in any amount of mind, she's 442 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: like at this diner with like all these guys and 443 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: like she's like stealing their eggs and eating them and 444 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: being like flirty and saucy. The bell sleeves actually making 445 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: her body look like so curvy and so undulating. No, 446 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: and I see bell sleeves, I'm soaked. Yeah, I mean honestly, 447 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: she started to tread I mean, we didn't see Brittany 448 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: and bell Sleeves till Crossroads and that was what ninety nine, 449 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: This is ninety four. Yeah, sorry, Brittany massive peasant top, 450 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: bell sleeves, dropped bell sleeves um. But she talks about 451 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: how they were so afraid of her music, like for 452 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: the second album, I know, and it's like because you 453 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: think now and I'm just like this music sounds like 454 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: so perfectly of the era, and it also doesn't sound 455 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: like not country at all, Like it sounds like it 456 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: has the twang, it had all the elements of right. 457 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: But I guess I looked at the charts and it 458 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: was like so many songs we love, like Tim McGraw 459 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: down on the Farm and then but I guess the 460 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: one classic country There was only like three women on 461 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: the charts at ninety four, and it was like the 462 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: song by Susie Bogus, who I do love, but I 463 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: think the songs are a little more kind of the 464 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: women in country. Then it was still like a little 465 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: maybe a little more like he left me and if 466 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: it was a jump in it like I'm in the 467 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: road again and looking at my back door, and it 468 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: was a little more Jetta down, I'm leaving, and she 469 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: was being more come on boots, yeah, and it was 470 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: like this stomp. I mean, what's funny. It's like there's 471 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 1: such a relentless positivity in her songs and it's just 472 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: like even the ones that are just like hey men, 473 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: like why don't you take a back seat for a second, 474 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: like they're still just like it's there's like a general 475 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: Canadian politeness that's sort of like reverber through them, where 476 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: it's like you have Miranda, like her telof songs are 477 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: like much more I'm burning a man to the ground, yeah, 478 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: gum powder and lay it. You know. It's just like 479 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm going home. I'm gonna low mass shotgun and sit 480 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: on the porch and latta cigaretta. Which is funny because 481 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: it's like Shania has all the fuel to be lighting 482 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: men's trucks on fire, to be oh absolutely, you know, 483 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: to be like have all these revenge ons, Whereas Miranda's childhood, 484 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: most of those themes are because her parents were private 485 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: detectives and she took those storylines of like what her 486 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: parents told Taylor Swift of her that he was sort 487 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: of like telling these little novellas like about other people's 488 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: because she hasn't really experienced them as tragedy other than 489 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: being harassed by the media. Yes, thank you, gastlet buy 490 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: their media. Like I'm sure, yes Marianda has been cheated 491 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: loan and stuff, But like I do feel like she 492 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: has traumaya. Yeah, Like the trauma is insane. Like at 493 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: one point she packs up her entire family age fourteen, 494 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: her mother just stays in bed. Okay, this was so 495 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: so the mom was like depressed for four years and 496 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: can't get out of bed, and like their family is 497 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: like always on the verge of poverty and having to move. 498 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: So Demi Moore having to like pack up and leave 499 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: an apartment because they like can't be the bid and 500 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: bad checks. But like I do feel like to some extent, 501 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: like everyone's mom like is in bed. Yeah, like we 502 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: both experienced mom's mom's in bed. Shout out love you mom, 503 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: you mom. I know you don't listen to this podcast, 504 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: but I'm obsessed with you. But it's like I don't 505 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: know a mom who isn't like at least sometimes just 506 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: like I need to go lie down, sweetie. I'm I'm 507 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna go to bed like that, I'm gonna go upstairs. 508 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, my mom is not just like this 509 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: impoverished Canadian logger's wife, but just like crosses. But I'd like, 510 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: I think there is some of that, right, two all moms, 511 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: but obviously her mom sounds pretty debilitating. Yeah, and it 512 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: was very just like and I noticed my mom's skin 513 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: was permanently discolored because she was beaten so much so 514 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: the blood lines were being shown. But then she'd be like, 515 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: but think of it this way. My adopted father, Jerry Twain, 516 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: And she was like, it's like her step right, all right, 517 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: he is receptedby he adopts her, right, she's never met her. 518 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: And he's like, and we will not use the phrase 519 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: step or half in this house, like you are all 520 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: real children. And she's like, think of it this way, 521 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: like he adopted three children at age twenty and like 522 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: had no money. And You're like, no, I mean true, 523 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: You're like true, but like I don't know, do you 524 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: have to like put your wife's head in the toilet 525 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 1: and then slammed the head against it every night? Yeah? 526 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: That sounds a little terrifying. So she's done some forgiveness. Yeah, 527 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and that's the working out you know, I don't know, 528 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, it definitely made me check my yeah, absolutely 529 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: check your breath. The lack of physical violence, school violence, sleeping, 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, all family to one room. Um. But yeah, 531 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: when she packs up the whole family is just like 532 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: because the dad is at work or whatever, and she's like, 533 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: we're just gonna do it. We're gonna go. She goes around, 534 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: packs up the whole house, gets all the kids in 535 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: the car, then goes and gets mom and like lures 536 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: her into the kitchen with a cigarette and a car. 537 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: It's just so like, here's that Maxwell house foldiers like 538 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: I'll light the cigarette when you're outside, and her mother 539 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: just like zombie like like moves to the car. Shani 540 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: is fourteen, and the mom drives them and she's just like, 541 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: let's go to Toronto. So they just drive to Toronto 542 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: and then stay, oh have no money. Okay. When she 543 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: says if you've if you've ever seen the movie The 544 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: Pursuit of Happiness with Will, oh my god, yeah, it 545 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: really reminded me of that. And I randomly have seen 546 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: them moving on a plane because it's like the most 547 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: Plaine movie. And then her mom finally goes back to 548 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: the husband after like being the whole family being in 549 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: a shelter, and Shani is like, I'm gonna stay because 550 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: I have a boyfriend. But the boyfriend's mom won't allow 551 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: Shanai to say, so she squats and a shelter. Yeah, 552 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: she's being like really badass. It's insane o badass. Yeah, 553 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: she's like, no, I'm in love, So I'm gonna squat 554 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: here with no running water so I can see my boyfriend. 555 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: And then I'm like, so she's going over to her 556 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: boyfriend's like, and you know what's smart about her? You know, 557 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: I will sit here. Did you ever run away? I 558 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: never run away, Sam, but I did have I remember 559 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: my mom told a story about how she once tried 560 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: to run away. Oh wow, And she packed this little 561 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: suitcase with like a doll in it. And it was 562 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: this little metal, like nineteen fifties suitcase that I had 563 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: in my room as like a little just like random 564 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 1: object in my bedroom growing up. And I always remembered 565 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: that this little suitcase was this like symbol of like 566 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: my mom's rebellion that was squashed by her like family. God. Yeah, 567 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: and it was she should go in a museum. No, 568 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: it was Maureen's runaway bag. Yeah, it was very like 569 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: this haunting little memory that kind of like so it's 570 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: being so tiny, tim like something about the kind of 571 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: like dnkinking like k with the metal and saying, your 572 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: boyfriend's huge suitcase over there. No, this horrifying suitcase that 573 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: is actually the size of like a Chevy Tahoe is 574 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: sitting in my office right now and I can't bear 575 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: to look at it. He's only sorry to bring that 576 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: up for two weeks, after which I will burn that. You. 577 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm giving you. It's very You're like, I'm 578 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: giving you two weeks, Bud, two weeks until you got 579 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: to get a job. You get to find a place 580 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: in Timmins. They're hiring down at the logging. Uh that 581 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: so that part's also insane where she does, yeah, let's 582 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: talk about the logging for a sec for her father's 583 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: logging plants. Her parents finally like get a little more 584 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: on their toes after you know this already happens after 585 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: they leave to Toronto, come back, blah blah blah. And 586 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: she's always blaming the violence on financial insecurity, which obviously 587 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: is a stressor. But it's like, again, you can't blame 588 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: all the violence on the financial insecurity anyway. They start 589 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: a successful logging company, which is like extremely Canadian, and 590 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: she becomes like a pitt I don't know what's the word, 591 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: A pittmaster, a logging captain. Yeah, some sort of lumbergal 592 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: and she's just like umbergill. It's all these men, all 593 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: Native thank you because her father is her first Native 594 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: book Canadian First Nations, American American People's and he at 595 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: one point he worked for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. 596 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: And then he's always been like, oh, I feel so 597 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: bad because everyone is like like such an alcoholic and like, 598 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, I go into these houses and they don't 599 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: even have a floor, they have a dirt floor, and 600 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: like and I can't like change that because I'm just 601 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: in this like bureaucracy section of like the Beer of 602 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Any Affairs and I'm not in like whatever, the like 603 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: bureau that can actually do something about it. Yeah, his 604 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: job was to like note what things they needed more of, 605 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: but it's like he had no power. It was very 606 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: just like he had to be like, Okay, this place 607 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: needs a basketball hoop because like and I feel like 608 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: she kind of says it in the way where she's like, Okay, 609 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: like yes, I'm acknowledging that there are people who have 610 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: an even worse time than us, and like everyone is 611 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: like super aware and checking their privilege left and right, 612 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: and like so he's checking his brain, he's checking his privilege, 613 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: but he's also just like mercilessly beating his wife and 614 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: then like she's checking her privilege. Like but she's like 615 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: also we also really go into how he like his 616 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: feelings about like he really doesn't want to live on 617 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: a reservation because it's like then you're just like he 618 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: feels that he's then like taking the hand out from 619 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: the people that like stole their Like oh yeah, he 620 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: has like that very kind of classic immigrant I'm gonna 621 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: make someone resolve, but he's I think it was more 622 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: like they fully like did genocide and like killed us 623 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: and now are just like, well, here's a res right, 624 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: I want I want like this hand Stockholm syndrome. Yeah, 625 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: but it's also just like this is such like meager, 626 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: what's the word reparation? You know what I mean? It's like, right, 627 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: it's not like a true reparation, right, It's like it's 628 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: not that retributive and so I'm just gonna sucking take 629 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: these scraps that the Trudeau government is offering. The Trudeau 630 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: government of the sixties. I hope that Trudeau, you've gotten 631 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: your act together and I know how God was Prime minister. 632 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: Oh well, and there we go. Look how much I 633 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: know about the Canadian government. 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My comparison to my logging is 694 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: that one of my high school summer jobs is I 695 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: worked at a public golf course in Cambridge, and my 696 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: job was to drive around on a like a John 697 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Dear golf court and fill in the holes that golf 698 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: clubs swung up the dirt. Well, it's so specific and random. Yeah, 699 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: it's very random, like when you know you know, I 700 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: guess and then anything tells me you didn't do an 701 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: amazing job, but I was. Then I also had to 702 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: clear a lot of brush, So I literally was a 703 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: logger because there was all this loose strife, which is 704 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I would be able to tell which 705 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: holes you filled in versus your co workers. Okay, let's 706 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: go back to the fresh pond. Girls. We're kind of 707 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: probably lengthfully filled in jar. You did you have to 708 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: even them out with like a little rake or something 709 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: after you fill them? Yeah, And it was like you 710 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: have your back, your whole John Deer back golf card 711 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: of like dirt. You put it in and then you 712 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: kind of stamp it down. Huge. Thank you to John 713 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: Deer for sponsoring this podcast. Thank you to John Dear. 714 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: That's John Dear code John a checkout fifteen percent off 715 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: your next six thousand dollars. Tractor tractors are so reponsive 716 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 1: and av No, I'm talking about them. No, Like our 717 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: friend friend of the pod, Alex, was like, I want 718 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: to buy like an ATV for like my upstate and 719 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: ATVs are like as much as more than cars. Really 720 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand Wow, Yes you can get a used one. Yeah, 721 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: they used market for ATVs. Yeah, I mean like you 722 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: and I were talking about. Yes, it doesn't make sense 723 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: to get a new cat. It doesn't make sense to 724 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 1: get a new ATV either, just gonna depreciate value. The 725 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: second you drive, you're also a lot. You lost a 726 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: thousand bucks literally right the second it like it leaves 727 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: a lot, you lost a k You want to list 728 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: another one. Drive a block, you want to get a 729 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: little mud on it? Yeah, three K done. I mean 730 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a huge waste of time and money. Least 731 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: Lee Shania like learned how to drive outso at like 732 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: age seven. Yeah, because cool. The mom was like lying 733 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: down some right, she had to drive. When she talks 734 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: about like, it's not fairy like some others love remembers 735 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: where we've read where they go in some tangents, and 736 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: like her tangents are just about like she'll be like, 737 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: and the thing is like you actually do need to 738 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 1: responsibly like forest. Yeah, and like her tangents are like 739 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: not even There was similarities to the Jessica Simpson book 740 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,479 Speaker 1: in this where it's just kind of like you're saying 741 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you don't need to say. But 742 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 1: the Jessica Simpsons stuff was more just like stuff from 743 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: her diary that no one needs to hear. This was 744 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: more just like okay, and now I'm just gonna like 745 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: insert three p page Wikipedia article about forestry. Can I 746 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: read this part about hunting partridges? She right, she goes. 747 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: We hunted our common Ontario forest fowl partridge often on 748 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: the tree plants, as we didn't always have a gun 749 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: with us. We did this by hand. Partridge liked to 750 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: stay cool and close to the ground in low bushes, 751 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: often several of them together, so if a couple of 752 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: people pounced on a cluster at the right moment, you 753 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: could often get grab two or three. A quick twist 754 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: of the neck did the job even more swiftly than 755 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 1: shooting them. I hated this hands on method, and it's 756 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: a skill I can't say I acquired with any pleasure 757 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: of pride, but it was quicker for the bird than 758 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: the bullets. I hunted partridge into my twenties. As they 759 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: were easy to get chest off the side of the road, 760 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: I'd cleaned them right there and then, as it's much 761 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,720 Speaker 1: easier doing they're still warm, by stepping on their wings 762 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: with a foot of either side of the breast, pulling 763 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: on the feet and outsides. A clean bird ready for 764 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: the pan or the freezer. There's not much meat on 765 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: a partridge, so once I acim laid a handful, i'd 766 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: make a meal with them. And you're like, oh damn, 767 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: this bitch is country. Yeah, grabbing partridges, but still being 768 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: a little bit like and no, I don't love like 769 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: breaking the neck of the partridge. There is a violence 770 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: to that that I do want to acknowledge. However, it 771 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: is actually less violent than shooting, and so in many 772 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: ways it's better for everyone. And I am really good 773 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: at killing partridges. I also love the side of the road. 774 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, so you pulling over and then like grabbing 775 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: the partridge and your nasty ass road partridge and it's 776 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: just like so covered in gasoline and likely well not 777 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 1: in the beautiful Canadian. Oh that's true, in the bush. Yeah, 778 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: she's not like it's not like you're going out and 779 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: like getting Ridgewood partridge. You're like on my way to variety. 780 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: I grabbed just like just like weathered fifty five year 781 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: old polish partridge. That's just like such an alcoholic Okay, 782 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: I will say something about So I listen to this 783 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: on tape. Is the first one I've done of this 784 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: hour in a big box of eight eight tapes from 785 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 1: Salvation Army. Um, I feel like that's always I've always 786 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: seen the Bill Clinton book in like thirty tapes. Yeah, 787 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 1: I feel like that's like every style. Okay, But so 788 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: I listen to this on Audible and you can listen 789 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: to it on double speed so it like goes a 790 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,919 Speaker 1: little bit faster. Um, here's the thing. She doesn't even 791 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: do the narration. She only reads that show and then 792 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: the end and then the rest has read the other 793 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 1: random home and you're just like, bitch, you won't even 794 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 1: read your own book book. You're like, so you're on 795 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: vocal Russ. I feel like, I bet now all celebs 796 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: mostly do need to do their own This is kind 797 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: of a pre audible era, I guess. So it's like 798 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: that's like not such a selling point. And they were like, 799 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: you have to do this audiobook and she was just 800 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: being like, no, sorry, I'm in Geneva Ride. Yeah, but 801 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: I do just wonder if it's a little bit just like, Okay, 802 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 1: are you kind of admitting that your book is a 803 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: little bit too long and like you don't even want 804 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: to read it. I'm sure, yeah, Like she because she 805 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: also talks about in the end about how this book 806 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: like she just started writing after her divorced right. It 807 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 1: was cathartic. It was cathartic. She was I was just 808 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: writing and writing and writing. And she's like, because you know, 809 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: as we know, she loved her alone time with the 810 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: lake cabin, and you know, kinnick quackall like Lake, and 811 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: she'd bring her guitar. So I feel like she was 812 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: just like slim lens craft glasses, huge ornate table, her 813 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 1: German shepherd, surrounding her candles burning, staying by her side, 814 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: guarding her from other just like Evil franchise, and she 815 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: was just typing and typing, typing, um. So I want 816 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: to talk about her career, which is, I want to say, 817 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: pretty normal in terms of her rise to fame. It's 818 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,800 Speaker 1: like she's doing local shows, she's performing kind of normal. 819 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: But it's also then she just like goes to Nashville 820 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: and gets a record deal. It happens pretty fast, and 821 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: it's like it's fast but not fast because it's like 822 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: also with reading the book, you're you're like, when is 823 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: this girl gonna get a break? So her first big 824 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: break is she like signs this like deal. This is 825 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: pretty natural to do a Vegas style review at a 826 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 1: Canadian golf resort and she's like still brushing her teeth 827 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: in the resort. The resort sounds so Poconos, and it's 828 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: like it's also very The Bachelor, like the oh, it's 829 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 1: so Nema Cola Vary the shop at the Lodge at Nemacola. 830 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 1: What's insane is so she does this like Vegas Style 831 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: review and that's like her first professional, paying music gig. 832 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: And she also gets married to Mutt Lang at that resort. Yeah, 833 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: oh so she's already I get Okay, this is another 834 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,959 Speaker 1: thing about her. She's like so loyal. It's like he's 835 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: random resort, like didn't pay you at all, a specially 836 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: assaulted you, just like groped you in a closet and 837 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: then just like punished you because you like didn't want 838 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: his advances. And then and you're still just being like 839 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: but like, they give me my job and that's my family. 840 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm not. It's also but what's funny is like it's 841 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: like so many people, as were saying, it's like maybe 842 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: like a Toma Red or something like that, who like 843 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: is from like the son of a country singer and 844 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: they're also like beer whiskey, and it's like probably just 845 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: grew up in the suburbs of Nashville. And like Shnaya 846 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: is actually, as we said with the Partridge, like actually 847 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: she's most so much more fucking po dunk than like 848 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: anyone in contemporary Nashville. And she makes kind of like 849 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: one joke and she's like, now, this is the type 850 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 1: of down where your grandma is your cousin and it 851 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: is your sister and we are killing Partridge and just 852 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: like even the people who are it's like, you know, 853 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: I feel like Morgan Wallon like is a hick, but 854 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: it's just like he's not. He's not growing up like homeless. 855 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 1: It's just like she's had a harder life than like 856 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,439 Speaker 1: I feel like anyone in contemporary Nashville. Now I'm trying 857 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: to think, like, who's actually been through it? Honey? Yeah, 858 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: I feel like, no, she is the type of childhood 859 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 1: that Loretta Lynn has. But even Loretta Lynn has a 860 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: better childhood because her dad isn't like like throwing her 861 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: mom down the Appalachian mountains. Right, So she does get 862 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: married at fifteen to her husbands, so it's like rape okay. 863 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: And then and then even more tragic, her parents died 864 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 1: oh yeah, in a car accident. But before she's really 865 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: famous and wait, okay, the barb of the psychic Oh well, 866 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: she can we talk about how I think she thinks 867 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: she's psychic. There's she has a dream that her father's 868 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: like abusing her because like, duh, and then he called 869 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: her and he's like, I had a dream you were 870 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: in trouble. And then she goes to a psychic and 871 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be about the connection you're making and 872 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: or the connection. She has a dream one night where 873 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: she's her father is like, okay, we're so dreaming a night, okay, 874 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: and then like she has a dream that her father's 875 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: abusing her. And then that same night, then she wakes 876 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: up and her mother's like, your father's on the phone. 877 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 1: He's worried about you, and he's like, I had a 878 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: crazy dream last night. You were screaming in pain. So 879 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: they both had this dream about I see. And so 880 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: she dreamed he was abusing her, and he dreamed that 881 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 1: she was in pain. And it's like, so you're both 882 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: kind of dreaming about the abuse. Yeah, But I don't know. 883 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's being psychic. I think it's 884 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 1: just like, well, you guys are both just thinking about 885 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: It's sort of just like on topic, yes, being psychic. 886 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: But she sees the fortune teller, her mother, her mother, 887 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 1: and the fortune teller tells her mother. She's like, oh 888 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: my god, okay, um, this is really horrible, but your 889 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,359 Speaker 1: husband is actually going to die in October. And then 890 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: she's in the middle of the reading and she's like, 891 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: and I just got something else about I actually can't 892 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: even tell you because it's it's you're just I can't 893 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: You won't even be able to hear it, so I 894 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 1: just have to end the reading now. And what she 895 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: had heard, obviously Shanaya thinks, is that she was like, oh, 896 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna die too, bitch. Yeah. She was like, I've 897 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: just charged this woman twenty bucks. I can't tell her 898 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: that she's gonna die. Yeah. At the end of the book, 899 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 1: she's like, let's kind of add in ten pages about 900 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: like my body and magician. Oh wait, that was really funny, 901 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: and she was just me and then she's just like 902 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: dragging that random girl at the airport. Yeah. And then 903 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: sometimes I walk into the gate and I see other 904 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: men look at me a thing, you still got it? 905 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 1: And then this other bitch walks in and she's a 906 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 1: size fucking zero and she's got the beasting lips and 907 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,839 Speaker 1: all the guys look at her and I think, Wow, 908 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,399 Speaker 1: she's great, but then it's no, her lips are fake. 909 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: And then I think, no, you're being mean. Actually you're 910 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,480 Speaker 1: not better than her. It's like okay, and she's like, oh, 911 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 1: by the way, can I just sell you guys, I 912 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: did have a thirty two d which like and it's like, okay, 913 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: so you're saying you have like a small waist and 914 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: big boobs and you're like, she's like, let me just 915 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: remind you how big my boobs are. She was like, 916 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: and I guess I have to say, Okay, I had 917 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: the body of a twenty five year old until I 918 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: was forty two. She's and now I'm forty three, and boy, 919 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: can you tell? And it's like I doubt it, but 920 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: it's just like the humble Yeah, She's like, I really 921 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: have to change my habits when the metabolism kind of 922 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: ended a year before. I mean, it does make me NERVs. 923 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean I already feel like I mean, I'm I mean, yes, 924 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: as someone who is of having gained fifteen pounds over 925 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 1: quarantine experience, Like I get it, but I think that's 926 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: different than metabolism slow and that's like the fucking Earth's 927 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: metabolism is loud batch. Oh wait, can we talk about 928 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: the name because I don't know? Yeah, so her name 929 00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 1: is just fully Eileen because she's actually Irish. She's like 930 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: Irish Canadian. Yeah, um father native mother comes from when 931 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: Irish hearted right step stepfather she just always said because 932 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: right step was right eliminated in their household, and it's 933 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: eliminated in this one. And I think she does kind 934 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: of not she's not being dull as alved, but I 935 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 1: think she identifies with Yeah, she identifies with the Native community. 936 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: She understands their concerns. I mean again, she was it 937 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: was the only all male Native or all native male 938 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: logging outfit in the region. Oh. I thought she was 939 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: saying that all logging outfits were mostly Native. Oh, I 940 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 1: guess that makes more sense. And then and she was 941 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: the only woman, she usually woman in the outfit of 942 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 1: in this outfit. But so she just kind of randomly 943 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: meets someone named Shanaya at some point and basically straight 944 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: up Jack's her name, and I'm just kind of it 945 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: is like a Native American woman, and she's like that 946 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: name is that cool and exotic? And she's like cool, 947 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,000 Speaker 1: So that's actually just going to go ahead and be 948 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 1: my name now. Because also, I mean all the scenes 949 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: of like her in this Nashville boardroom were like I 950 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: was imagining the most like movie set and there's like 951 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: some guy with slicked back hair, like a big nineties 952 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: blazer and yeah, Wrangler jeans, and he's like, Eilean's not 953 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,320 Speaker 1: gonna work. And it wasn't what an Eileen Twain? No, no, 954 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: come on, I mean, I mean yeah, not a sax symbol. 955 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 1: Chania and that were and they were like, she was like, 956 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,359 Speaker 1: what about Chennaia And they were kind of like sitting 957 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: back cowboy boots up on the big black lacquer desk. 958 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: I like it, like sound of it, so love the 959 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: way you say that Madian. She's at the at the 960 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: way she supposed Italian. Is she French, Well the name 961 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: is not. She's French. I guess they're in the Swiss Alps, 962 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: like near French Swiss, French Swiss stuff, because the whole 963 00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: thing that Swizan is everyone there is other like Swiss, Swiss, Italian, 964 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: Swiss German are just like rich of another country nearby. 965 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: But okay, god exactly Mayan is like also not as 966 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: hot as yea, so by any means what you look up. 967 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 1: And I remember when this whole like scandal happened and 968 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is one so twisted because 969 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 1: what happens is she ends up and the Shania is 970 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: married to Marianne Sex's husband now because they found solace 971 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: in each and each other. That part was my I 972 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 1: was I could start to hear kind was like, wait, 973 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: is she going to marry him? Because she's talking and 974 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: she's just like And I called Frederick and he was 975 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,640 Speaker 1: the only other person that knew what I was going for. 976 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: And of course he was very busy at his senior 977 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 1: marketing position at Espresso. But right that it's slowly just 978 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: like and Frederick, he was such a good man of manners. 979 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, she made the right choice because it's like 980 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: else would know what you've gone through. Who else is 981 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: she going to meet? Like? She doesn't she like doesn't 982 00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: like hanging out people like she doesn't like going out 983 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,279 Speaker 1: and meet meeting new people need someone also, you're someone 984 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: who you're gonna trust, and you need someone with their 985 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: own career at espresso and their own child. Oh I 986 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,760 Speaker 1: mean also cha ching. So I looked up Frederic Debau. 987 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: He's way hotter than mud Lang. Oh I agree, Yeah, 988 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: he does kind of have like these fully nineties and 989 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 1: the like weird ol like shoulder length click curls. But 990 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 1: mud Lang also has wavy shoulder length hair and is 991 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: just much older because again he literally did produce an 992 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,520 Speaker 1: ac DC album, so he's like ancient. Yeah. No, Frederick 993 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: has a much hotter face. And then she even talks 994 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: about the book and she was like, and physical attraction 995 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: is an important part of any relationship, and we have 996 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: it inside. That was such an insanely Christian kind of way, 997 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: and like to talk about like how do you have 998 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,959 Speaker 1: a very active sex life where you're like, and don't 999 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: get me wrong, sexuality is an important part of a marriage, 1000 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 1: and when two people are in love, it is very 1001 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: good for them to have a healthy schedule of making love. 1002 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: This was another sort of shade of Jessica in the book, 1003 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 1: where it's like, you won't say that you're having sex, boy, 1004 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: you will say that it is a beautiful union between 1005 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: two people. She did lose her for generity, it didn't 1006 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: sound like at like fifteen, oh, and she was just 1007 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: like and it was a wonderful experience and I'm very 1008 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: grateful that I had a positive virginity losses. Yeah, and 1009 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: she like one planned parenthood and randomly that part was 1010 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: shockingly not tragic. She just like goes to planned parenthood 1011 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,319 Speaker 1: with her fifteen year old boyfriend and gets the pill. 1012 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: Though also Frederick is the one who tells her that 1013 00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 1: this affair is going on. It's so crazy, and it 1014 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 1: gets the part where it's like, this is where all 1015 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: of her like niceness crumbles, saw the nice crumbles, because 1016 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: even when she's talking about like horrible abuse in her childhood, 1017 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: she's just she's kind of like talking about it and 1018 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,799 Speaker 1: like with a somewhat like distance and remove. And then 1019 00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: when she's talking about Marie Anne, she's just like, and 1020 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: she was a venomous snake. And you must must make 1021 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,359 Speaker 1: sure that you are always communicating with your partner, because 1022 00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: if you leave any space or distance in your relationship, 1023 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: you are leaving space for a traitor to enter your 1024 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: home and steal everything that you've built. And then she 1025 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: just keeps on using the word trader, and she's like, 1026 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 1: and the thing you do, you need to look out 1027 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: for signs when a trader is in your presence. It 1028 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 1: was like God full political thrillers. She's like, and the 1029 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: trader was in the home. But it's also very just 1030 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,720 Speaker 1: like the way that like Chloe Kardashian sounds like anyone 1031 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: talks when they're just like, hey, just getting rid of 1032 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: some toxic people in my life today, No big deal, 1033 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: just sort of rooting out a little bit of treachery 1034 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: and villainousness that has been amongst me and amongst my business. 1035 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: And it's no longer here. It's really so Cloe. And 1036 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 1: it's also say because in the beginning she was like, 1037 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: and they sent like, when she's getting famous, she's like, 1038 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: and they sent me in for like media training because 1039 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 1: I had such a bad, naughty logger's mouth and I 1040 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: was always like swearing, and then it's like, she never swears. 1041 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: And then at the end she's like And when I 1042 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,239 Speaker 1: did go to home to Canada, all my friends were like, 1043 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: say it, Shania, she's a filthy cunt. She's a filthy count. 1044 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: She's like, oh, you're right, Marianne is a count. And 1045 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: we're like, okay, you haven't heard anything. She's a filthy card. 1046 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,439 Speaker 1: Be slow and painfalla and I'll watch her submerge into 1047 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:16,600 Speaker 1: like Geneva, which stands at negative seventy four degrees celsius, 1048 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: and I will send Tim, my German shepherd, and Sadie 1049 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 1: my husky after her to eat her bones. Whose bad? 1050 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 1: Your segments and whose heart did you steal? Whose podcast 1051 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: did you seal? I wonder not us? Not us because 1052 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,960 Speaker 1: we're the onliest lebrity book cup podcast. Um. Anyway, what 1053 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: she wear? Why does she leave? So? What does she wear? 1054 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: What does she wear? I will discuss the peasant tops 1055 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: of the nineties, and I think now now I'm just 1056 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: picturing like full snow bunny and like evil Geneva clothes. Yes, 1057 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: it's like she's like she's that store by your Vermont condo. 1058 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 1: She's very sport teeth, like she's only in the most 1059 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: like gorgeous hyper tech snow skin tight snow pants, hair 1060 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: flowing on your high tech goggles. I'm just like always 1061 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: just like so many rabbit fur hoods. And then shearling. 1062 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: Probably she is like monogrammed silk pajamas. Yeah, it's like 1063 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: the most luxurious fret sweatsuit. Though probably actually she is 1064 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,839 Speaker 1: not wearing a fur because like now she's so anti hunting. Well, 1065 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 1: unless she killed the rabbit herself exactly and pulled it 1066 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 1: off in one tape and then sewed it to a 1067 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: jacket like learn oh, because right, she's like growing up. 1068 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: I love my mucklaques that like my grandmother and she 1069 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: wore them to school for like two years. I ever 1070 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: made fun of her. I bet she's like ordering muck 1071 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: lacks from a local Canadian right maker. Yes, to stay 1072 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 1: true to her. No, because as I said, she's a Timmins, 1073 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 1: She's a Timmins girl, and she has a Timmins maker 1074 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: that she's supporting, and she's so like burning with the gloves, 1075 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,800 Speaker 1: and it's just like, right, is she so? And then 1076 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: like yeah, occasionally I wonder if she's like now post 1077 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: made antiboo, if she's going to like then espresso balls, 1078 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: like then espresso holiday party. Yeah, And it's like and 1079 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, non espresso for me, no caffee, and 1080 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm ill. Do you have a tea pod? There's 1081 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: maybe no, they have a decaf pod, right, She'll she'll 1082 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,520 Speaker 1: do a decaf espresso. Wait did you ever find the 1083 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: part where she describes the interior of the house. Oh yes, 1084 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: hold on, so because she literally says, I haven't written 1085 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 1: down in my notes. Because she says French vanilla stove, 1086 00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,720 Speaker 1: which is so which is also very n espresso. So 1087 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,959 Speaker 1: this is when she first gets her home with Mutt. 1088 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: In her first home in Geneva greater Geneva. Shall we 1089 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: say this is not downdown. Thankfully, much of the structure's 1090 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 1: original materials had been preserved, such as the detailed parquet 1091 00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: floors throughout in the various stone and marble staircases, pillars 1092 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: in fireplaces, handsome French oak panels made from trees no 1093 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: longer in existence line the high ceiling living room. After 1094 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: visiting Versailles and learning to appreciate the different periods of 1095 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 1: architecture and design during my international travel, just out of 1096 00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: interest sake, I started to take more detailed note of 1097 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,400 Speaker 1: the materials, lighting, fixtures, fabrics, colors and shapes. I was 1098 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: especially drawn to the Renaissance period when Versailles was built, 1099 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,479 Speaker 1: and then we chose mostly French fabrics in the style 1100 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 1: of seventeen hundreds and eighteen hundreds, which went back to 1101 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: the days when Marie and Antoinette still had her head. 1102 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: The carved wood frames of vote a palace tea room 1103 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: setting only with furniture larger scale and more comfortable and 1104 00:58:55,840 --> 00:59:02,000 Speaker 1: lofty than the originals. So she's like about the stove. Oh, 1105 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: the stove, a radiant heat auga made of cast iron, 1106 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: was a stunning piece of art in itself finished in 1107 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: French vanilla enamel with brass and black fittings without my 1108 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: having to go on tournytime soon it would receive quite 1109 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,320 Speaker 1: a workout that the full paragraph about the stove burn 1110 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: burnch of vanilla stove, yeah, which leads us into how 1111 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: does she live? Does she heat? Oh? Okay, what is 1112 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 1: she making on the stove? Yeah? I mean she described 1113 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: how she lives, which is just massive full I mean, 1114 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: I love. Then she also discovered fabric at Versai like 1115 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: in my travels, I did happen to go to the 1116 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: palace and then I kind of actually gone into Tappa 1117 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: strays and they were really giving rugs and they were 1118 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: giving silks and curtains, and I was like, okay, this 1119 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: is actually a full mood, no, I know. And she's 1120 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 1: like walking around much like Shania, and she's like petting 1121 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: these like Versailles fabrics and it's like I love this, 1122 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 1: but can we make it a sexual? Yeah? And it 1123 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: looks like so you know, it's like there's so much 1124 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: just like ornate or nake silt, like chintz and chin 1125 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: did ruffle ruffle. I'm sure she has the full m 1126 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: The canopy bed, yeah, it's it's California King, or should 1127 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,720 Speaker 1: I say it's a Swiss can size. Yeah, and Frederick 1128 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: is making sweet sweet slow love. Actually, well sometimes it's fast. 1129 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: It's a rhythm come on boots like they're actually very 1130 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: like twelve minutes because all her songs are all but 1131 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean any man of mine, and that didn't impress 1132 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: me much. It's all about like how a man like 1133 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to be hot or have the cards, 1134 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: about like how he holds you and what he does 1135 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 1: to your body. Yeah, so I just a man to 1136 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 1: keep me warm at night. Yeah, those big Swiss French 1137 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: arms are with that, those big luscious locks of weird 1138 01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 1: al hair, keeping me warm at night. Nugget they drape 1139 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,240 Speaker 1: over her. Um, what is she eating? I mean she 1140 01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,440 Speaker 1: talks about how much she's cooking on the big auto. 1141 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 1: So she mentions again and again that she's a vegetarian. 1142 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,560 Speaker 1: So I think she's just like is making a big 1143 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean she's also she's very nineties, so I feel 1144 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: like I'm just picturing like Iceberg. I mean also now 1145 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 1: having this memory too, when I was in Switzerland with 1146 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: my whole family, with my dad's side of the family, 1147 01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: who are like so random and tacky, and one of 1148 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: my aunts brought her own like ranch dressing from America 1149 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: so that we could do like, well, that's your family's spies. 1150 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: That's because your family stole random in California and a 1151 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 1: ranch and just no, and I was just figs and 1152 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: ranch and like my obviously like my brother and like 1153 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: my mom, like we're just we were just like so horrified, 1154 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 1: silently like what was happening. We're just being like we're 1155 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,800 Speaker 1: literally in like Switzerland, like we should be having like 1156 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 1: so many baggets and butter and like fabulous French alpine food. 1157 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Really no, actually it's either way. I think Shania is. 1158 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean she says she's cooking so much. I think 1159 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 1: she is making like much just chic er vegetarian meals 1160 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: that are healthy, Like I think she's OTOLENGI. I feel 1161 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 1: like it would be more ninety as if she was 1162 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:19,920 Speaker 1: being so like tie yeah, like many likes doing lettuce 1163 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: cups and like doing wraps for the kid. I don't know, 1164 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,000 Speaker 1: but it's like I could also see her being a 1165 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: little more alpine and I I, yeah, what is it's 1166 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: a little more asparagus. I think Swiss food. Yeah, yeah, 1167 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what is like I think she's doing like 1168 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: a roast asparagus with like army genre, like she does 1169 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: have to feed, like there's probably they're probably not doing 1170 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: so much fund because she's trying to lose weight, right, 1171 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: but like may she is making maybe like uh some 1172 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: sort of like lasagna for Frederick Tibau. Yes, oh wait 1173 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Yeah, it's like a vegetarian white Yeah, 1174 01:02:52,600 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: vegetarian lasagna done done for her twist. Um. Okay, who 1175 01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 1: are you in the book? Yeah? Read in the book. 1176 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: I was kind of like thank reading this, I was like, 1177 01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,360 Speaker 1: who am I in the book? I mean, am I 1178 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: the Trinidaddian gay friend? That would be the easy one? 1179 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Then I guess you're the Trinidadian gay friend who's exposing 1180 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: her to Toronto's bustling gay scene. Yeah, I would like 1181 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:18,640 Speaker 1: to think, I mean I Okay, the scene where she's 1182 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: describing her like Marianne like lies with just with such 1183 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 1: a straight face, and she's like she would call me 1184 01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: and just be like, yes, Mud is doing great, and 1185 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: why would you even think there's something wrong with your marriage? 1186 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 1: Maybe look within Yeah, And then I kind of was like, 1187 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,200 Speaker 1: oh am I that evil. For a second, I was like, 1188 01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: should I I was like, Steven is Marianne, but like, 1189 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: you're not like evily walking. You wish you're evily walking 1190 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: by someone on a Geneva like you're a little you're 1191 01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 1: a little muddy Anne, but not. I mean you would 1192 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: That's why you'd want to play in the movie of 1193 01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: this book for sure. Yes, I would love the big 1194 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: in the Big Big Street adaptation from this moment in 1195 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: the Big First Duty. I mean the way that this 1196 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: movie would be so a busy family Oh well, I 1197 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,800 Speaker 1: mean I wish they would do such that the version. 1198 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I want the first half this movie to be this 1199 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 1: like lifetime and saying rural okay instead of hill billy elegy. Right, 1200 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: we should see from this moment on, I'm like, either 1201 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: one of them, there's your fucking oscar. Yeah, oh my god. 1202 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: If Amy Adams Twain that would be her. Allison Janny 1203 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: is the mom gets beaten done. I mean, it's an 1204 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:33,200 Speaker 1: obvious choice, but yeah, well I'm just saying that's who 1205 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: always plays that role. Yeah, Okay, who am I in 1206 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 1: the book? Am I the Spanish and Lucian Horse, am 1207 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 1: I bote Jarek or am I Okay. I mean I 1208 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,120 Speaker 1: like to figure myself on the Girl's Trip Daryl Hannah 1209 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,919 Speaker 1: bo Derek. I could see girl on a girl's trip. 1210 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: I could definitely see that and like the other girls like, oh, 1211 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 1: we should we hang out with her? Like no whatever 1212 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 1: she said a horses, but it was a whole horse trip. 1213 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: They were all there to ride fancy horses, and I 1214 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,240 Speaker 1: was just like, maybe just she was more into the horses, 1215 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: right because they probably saw housewives and then they were 1216 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:17,680 Speaker 1: like trolloping up to like an insane champagne. And I 1217 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,120 Speaker 1: do feel like I was kind of there was like 1218 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 1: another random princess on that trip, and I feel like 1219 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the princess who's kind of like, do we 1220 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: have to ride again tomorrow? Like like some just like 1221 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 1: spare a Monica princess, just like the third tier Monico 1222 01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: girl was there. Yeah. That or I wanted to just 1223 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: be like Buddy Cannon, who like, oh, like he discovered 1224 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: my albums. He got no credit and he was just 1225 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: like a player in Nashville and he likes not a 1226 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,440 Speaker 1: character in the book, just like a name that's said once. 1227 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,080 Speaker 1: I guess I just want to be like one of them. 1228 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean someone who's like didn't get enough credit for 1229 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 1: an album. I just want to be one of the 1230 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: kind of Nashville big wigs that's like known in the 1231 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: industry and they're like, oh please, buddy. He brought in 1232 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 1: everyone from Glenn Campbell to Toby Keith to Rebe. He 1233 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: was there in those recordings. He chose Reabe his first 1234 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: synkle L. So I would say I want to be that, 1235 01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,280 Speaker 1: But I'm also just like a random unnamed hoe on 1236 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: this horsey, unnamed horsehoe who's kind of tired after like 1237 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 1: forty five minutes of horseback writing. That's gonna go ahead 1238 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:22,479 Speaker 1: and be great, great, Okay, So y'all yeah, well y'all. 1239 01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm if this book is a must. 1240 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there are parts of the story that I 1241 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 1: was truly like, you know, yes, wrapped in, wrapped in, 1242 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 1: and was like so surprised I didn't know this about Shania, 1243 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: and it's like it definitely makes me like more interested 1244 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,000 Speaker 1: in her and like you have a new found respect 1245 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,520 Speaker 1: for her. But the book is so long. Can I 1246 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: make a recommendation? I think it's like right now that 1247 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: we're just these crazy at good dam exit or reading 1248 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 1: a book a week. Like I would say, if you're 1249 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: a big Shanaia fan, pick this book up. Read it 1250 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 1: over eight months. Yeah, I don't think anyone read it 1251 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,480 Speaker 1: in a week. Definitely have this book like on your 1252 01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: bedside table or like on the beds a table of 1253 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: your second or even third. You're you're like occasionally being like, 1254 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, let me pick this up again. Um, but yeah, 1255 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean also, and just like, do please like get 1256 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: into Shania and rediscover her back catalog. Yeah, go through 1257 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 1: the albums. It's hard. I don't know. I guess I 1258 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: can't even get three boots out of five, but three 1259 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,760 Speaker 1: pairs of boots, three pairs of boots, Yeah, sorry, so 1260 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: that would be. But then I'm also like, oh, well, god, Shania, 1261 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna give you four logs out of I 1262 01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,800 Speaker 1: don't know. I give Shania a story of four, I 1263 01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 1: get the book of two. Yeah, and so that may 1264 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,439 Speaker 1: be averages out to of three. But there are other 1265 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 1: books where like I think the person is interesting, but 1266 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm more into the book because I'm just like right 1267 01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 1: where I'm just like, your story is amazing, Like, I 1268 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,560 Speaker 1: guess I just want this turned into him. I want 1269 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: the coal miner's daughter treatment to this book. So I 1270 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 1: guess that's on me to start freaking adapting this tone. Yeah, hello, 1271 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,920 Speaker 1: stop talking about it in certain I'm making the work right, 1272 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: do the work, Okay, okay, well be beast. He's the 1273 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,080 Speaker 1: next book. I'm getting a signal Spirit is talking to me. 1274 01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,280 Speaker 1: Someone's talking to me about what next book is going 1275 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 1: to be it. I'm here. Are you getting anything? Yeah, 1276 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 1: I am getting something. I'm I'm hearing the I'm hearing 1277 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: the lasagna is ready. I'm hearing turn the TV off. 1278 01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm having visions of the Long Island Expressway. I'm I'm 1279 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,800 Speaker 1: having visions of a huge glass of red wine. I'm 1280 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: having visions of a cemetery. I'm having visions of a 1281 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,639 Speaker 1: tape recorder. I'm ever a village of a cruise ship. 1282 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Sixty people on a cruise ship, everyone and has recently 1283 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: lost a loved one. We're talking about Our next book 1284 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:51,520 Speaker 1: is by no other than the Long Island Medium herself, Theresa. 1285 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 1: I am so I'm so excited. I wonder if Spirit 1286 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: will visit us. I feel like spirits already here, like 1287 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,720 Speaker 1: Spirit like just heard us say that in Spirits, just 1288 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: like booking it on the l Ie right now. It's like, Babe, 1289 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: I'll be here for the week. Do read along or not, 1290 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,679 Speaker 1: or just watch an episode of Long on the medium 1291 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 1: to get you in the mood. Or have a loved 1292 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:18,880 Speaker 1: one die. Um. Sorry, yeah, Lily, you're super dark and 1293 01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 1: that's super fucked up. But do kill a closed loved one, 1294 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,879 Speaker 1: um and try to connect with them before the next episode. 1295 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: And thank you, of course to all our fans. I 1296 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 1: just want to say, you know, we love you guys 1297 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: so much. We're obsessed you guys. We're reading your comments, 1298 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 1: we love your tweets, love your reviews. I'll tell you this. 1299 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I wake up in the morning and 1300 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I chuck, um, we don't might get me going. My 1301 01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 1: favorite thing is the text that we get on Wednesday 1302 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: from from our from the people who listen to it 1303 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: right when it comes out. What is it? Nine text 1304 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,799 Speaker 1: in nine am? The nine Am Club, the nine club hashtag. 1305 01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,400 Speaker 1: Then okay, well, for some of our early folk who 1306 01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: do have jobs in the service industry or the logging industry, yeah, 1307 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 1: they're bakers. They're loggers bakers, and they're getting funeral directors 1308 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,760 Speaker 1: and they're the five am clum club. 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