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Speaker 3: get into the headlines. Let's start with the boy crisis,
Speaker 3: shall we. For months, Congress has been unable to take
Speaker 3: concrete steps to find a real solution. Yesterday, House Republicans
Speaker 3: stood up, joined hands and said, let's pull the chief
Speaker 3: stunt instead.
Speaker 4: For the first time in almost one hundred and fifty years,
Speaker 4: a Cabinet secretary has been impeached. House Lawmaker's impeachment Homeland
Speaker 4: Security Secretary out a hundred my orchis yesterday by an
Speaker 4: extremely thin margin of one two fourteen to two thirteen.
Speaker 5: We think Security Ark is not doing a good job,
Speaker 5: but they don't really have a case that he has
Speaker 5: committed what we are supposed to be looking for, which
Speaker 5: is high crimes and misdemeanors.
Speaker 6: Well, it sends a message that we're not just going
Speaker 6: to sit by while the Secretary of Homeland Security fails
Speaker 6: to do his job at keeping a homeland safe.
Speaker 3: Really, House Republicans, really, that's grounds for impeachment.
Speaker 2: Now doing a.
Speaker 3: Bad job, that's the standard you guys want to set,
Speaker 3: because you're not exactly crushing it right now. You can't
Speaker 3: pass legislation, you can't settle on us.
Speaker 2: Speaker.
Speaker 3: The most of you guys have gotten done is one
Speaker 3: beetlejuice hand job. And even that wasn't too completion. I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, I could have knocked out too before the
Speaker 3: curtain rises, you know. But fine, they impeached Alejandro Majorcis.
Speaker 3: I guess House Republicans think they can solve the border
Speaker 3: crisis by removing one Latino at a time. So congratulations
Speaker 3: to House Speaker Mike Johnson for finally getting something past.
Speaker 3: Although you know who's going to be pretty upset about that,
Speaker 3: Mike Johnson.
Speaker 2: From four years ago.
Speaker 7: The founding fathers, the founders of this country, warned against
Speaker 7: single party impeachments. They said that it would be bitterly divisive,
Speaker 7: perhaps irreparably divisive for the country.
Speaker 2: I definitely won't regret that in a few years. Now.
Speaker 3: If you'll excuse me, I'm off to French kiss a
Speaker 3: bat at the Wuhan Wet Market. Let's move on to
Speaker 3: more consequential congressional news. Yesterday, Long Island voters had a
Speaker 3: special election to replace.
Speaker 2: This guy, George Santos.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, famous for getting expelled, dressing like a ventriloquist dummy,
Speaker 3: and running away from all of America's finest journalists.
Speaker 2: Run away from me all.
Speaker 3: You want, George, You'll have to talk to me when
Speaker 3: I pay for that cameo.
Speaker 2: Those are the rules. That's in the contracts.
Speaker 3: Read the fine bred George, I'm coming for you. But
Speaker 3: the race to replace Santos wasn't just a local issue.
Speaker 3: It had national implications because both parties were looking to
Speaker 3: see what the result would tell them about November.
Speaker 2: So let's break down this race.
Speaker 3: In one quarter we had Tom Swazi and in the
Speaker 3: other corner we had.
Speaker 2: Mazi Pillop Swazi versus Mazzi.
Speaker 3: Even doctor Seuss was like, you know, it's a little much.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Looking at their pictures, you can probably guess which candidate
Speaker 3: is in party, but you'd be wrong, and you need
Speaker 3: to do better. The white guy is Democrat Tom Swazi.
Speaker 3: Funny story, he actually held the seat before George Santos,
Speaker 3: but then he left to run for governor.
Speaker 2: And Tom, how did that go? I ran for governor
Speaker 2: and I got my ass kicked. Thanks for your honesty.
Speaker 3: That's the Democrats champion, Tom Swase.
Speaker 2: I'm the guy who got my ass kicked. This man
Speaker 2: failed and got another chance.
Speaker 3: This is what sociologists referred to as a reverse female
Speaker 3: movie director. Meanwhile, the Republican is Mazi pill Up, and
Speaker 3: she contains multitudes.
Speaker 4: Mazzi Pillup is in fact a registered Democrat, though she
Speaker 4: was elected to the Nassau County Legislature as a Republican.
Speaker 9: Pillup, a mother of seven and wife of a Ukrainian immigrant,
Speaker 9: is an Ethiopian jew born in southern Ethiopia. She immigrant
Speaker 9: to Israel, joining their military the IDF, before moving to
Speaker 9: the United States.
Speaker 2: That's a big gun, okay.
Speaker 3: An Ethiopian Jewish refugee, immigrant, Republican Democrat, mother of seven
Speaker 3: married to a Ukrainian who served.
Speaker 2: In the IDF.
Speaker 3: She's like, if you asked chet Gpt to write a
Speaker 3: bio based on all the news, if this race has
Speaker 3: national implications. Then, understanding what issues resonated with voters is crucial,
Speaker 3: and in Long Island, what issue stood out.
Speaker 1: Both candidates made the case that they are tougher on immigration.
Speaker 3: I'll work across the aisle to do what our leaders
Speaker 3: have a secure our border is.
Speaker 1: At the same time, the two attacked each other on
Speaker 1: the issue.
Speaker 2: Because Tom Swazzi repeatedly weakened Americas borders.
Speaker 3: Guys, guys, guys, relax, There's plenty of migrants to demonize
Speaker 3: for the both of you. Okay, So both Swats and
Speaker 3: Mazzi made immigration a big part of their platform, but
Speaker 3: just as revealing as what they were running on was
Speaker 3: who they were running away from. Mazzi refused to ask
Speaker 3: Trump for his endorsement, and Swazi politely asked President Biden
Speaker 3: to stay the fuck away.
Speaker 2: Would you want a campaign with Biden?
Speaker 3: I could pretty much guarantee that the President it's not
Speaker 3: going to be coming the campaign here.
Speaker 1: But this is a huge seed.
Speaker 10: I mean, don't you think the President could be helpful
Speaker 10: and any if he came out here.
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be helpful, just as I
Speaker 3: don't think Donald Trump would be helpful to my opponent.
Speaker 2: And this race is really very local.
Speaker 3: He's declining the president's offer, like how you decline your
Speaker 3: dad's offered a babysit so sweet, aie pops, but we
Speaker 3: don't want to put you out, and Billy really doesn't
Speaker 3: want to play with your keys for three hours.
Speaker 2: He's fifteen.
Speaker 3: Of course, Swazi is right, a Biden visit would not
Speaker 3: be helpful, especially to Biden. You don't want Joe having
Speaker 3: to learn any new names right now. His brain is
Speaker 3: in a sort of one in, one out situation. Tom swasee,
Speaker 3: nice to meet you.
Speaker 11: I'm oh no.
Speaker 3: So that was the candidates and the issues they ran on,
Speaker 3: and last night we found out who had the winning strategy.
Speaker 4: Democrat Tom Swazi easily winning a special election in New
Speaker 4: York's third congressional district, defeating Mazi Pillup by eight points.
Speaker 11: Thank god, Let me just enjoy this for one more minute.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, let me enjoy this. Tomorrow I start the
Speaker 3: world's worst job. Yes, Tom Swazi won the race handily.
Speaker 3: Another question is what does it mean for November. Of course,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump has his own opinion.
Speaker 6: Former President Donald Trump blamed Pillip's loss on her lack
Speaker 6: of loyalty to him. He said that though he boasts
Speaker 6: an almost ninety nine percent endorsement success rate in primaries
Speaker 6: and a very good number in the general elections, this
Speaker 6: very foolish woman didn't endorse me.
Speaker 12: Maga, which is most of the Republican Party stayed home
Speaker 12: and it will always unless it is treated with the
Speaker 12: respect that it deserves. I stayed out of the race.
Speaker 12: I want to be loved in quotes. I'm not sure
Speaker 12: what that I want to be loved in quotes is.
Speaker 2: You don't know.
Speaker 3: You don't know what A bitter old man alone in
Speaker 3: his room, tweeting into the abyss I want to be
Speaker 3: loved The night before Valentine's Day means haven't you seen
Speaker 3: a person make a Freudian slip with his thumbs before?
Speaker 3: That's for Democrats. They were gifted a blueprint for twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four. Joe Biden heads up.
Speaker 2: The path is clear.
Speaker 3: You can win reelection in three easy steps. One get
Speaker 3: out there with a strong message. Two tackle immigration head on,
Speaker 3: and three don't campaign with Joe Biden. For more analysis
Speaker 3: the last night's election, we go to troy Iwana out
Speaker 3: in Long Island. Crow, what.
Speaker 5: What know? What?
Speaker 2: Boy? What do you think?
Speaker 3: The National implications of this election.
Speaker 10: Are it was a local election on Long Island, so none.
Speaker 3: A local election with national implications. I mean, when you
Speaker 3: look at it, if.
Speaker 5: You who cares, a Democrat winning in New York is
Speaker 5: not exactly shocking news. It's like it's like finding out
Speaker 5: vaccines make you gay. We know, that's why we're taking.
Speaker 3: Them, right, Okay, okay, But Long Island is a good bellweather.
Speaker 3: It's middle class, it's suburban, it's diverse.
Speaker 10: Yeah, those are really good points. But also it's Long Island.
Speaker 5: Why are you looking for a lesson from people who
Speaker 5: voted for George Santo's root for the Mets and idolized
Speaker 5: Billy Joel. We shouldn't be learning from them.
Speaker 2: We should pity them.
Speaker 3: Okay, No, I actually really like Billy Joel, of course
Speaker 3: we all do, but we're not supposed to be proud
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 5: He's a guilty pleasure, like reality TV or cocaine. I
Speaker 5: just don't think we should be looking for insight from
Speaker 5: an island that named their hockey team the Islanders, the
Speaker 5: Long Island Islanders. It's not exactly a bunch of hemingways
Speaker 5: out here.
Speaker 2: Get noted, so nothing to be learned, just not a thing.
Speaker 10: Okay, Well, there's one thing I'd like to learn. How
Speaker 10: to get home? Okay, The Long Island Railroad is confusing
Speaker 10: and scary. Who is ron Conkoma Jordan?
Speaker 11: Please send me an Uber.
Speaker 3: We'll send you an Uber twenty one everybody.
Speaker 2: When we come back.
Speaker 8: Author Joshua Green is here, so don't go on. Welcome
Speaker 8: back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 3: My guest tonight is a national correspondent for Bloomberg BusinessWeek
Speaker 3: and bestselling author whose new book is called The Rebels
Speaker 3: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Okazia Cortes, and the Struggle
Speaker 3: for a New American Politics. Please welcome Joshua Green. Josh Welcome, Welcome,
Speaker 3: all right, John. See your last book. Your last book,
Speaker 3: Devil's Bargain, was about Steve Bannon and the rise of
Speaker 3: far right populism. This book is looking at the far
Speaker 3: left and the rise of populism and the progressive movement.
Speaker 3: Is this what you brought us for Valentine's Day?
Speaker 13: I'm giving you the gift of a book that's not
Speaker 13: about Trump or Biden or the depressing presidential rematch. It's
Speaker 13: going to dominate our lives for the next nine yes,
Speaker 13: that's my gift to you.
Speaker 2: This is arrestment for people who need a break.
Speaker 3: Read about Bernie sand You go. Yes, you talk about
Speaker 3: this book about the rise of the left and the
Speaker 3: progressive and the progressive movement and populism, and also you
Speaker 3: talk about how it has a symbiotic relationship with the
Speaker 3: more moderate way and the Joe Biden side of it all.
Speaker 3: Talk to me how you see those two things working symbiotically.
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I mean the book starts in two thousand
Speaker 13: and eight, because I date the rise of this left
Speaker 13: populist movement to the reaction from the financial crisis, and
Speaker 13: after that everybody was angry. There was a big backlash.
Speaker 13: On the right, it led to the Tea Party and
Speaker 13: to Donald Trump. But on the left it gave rise
Speaker 13: to people like Warren who were able to articulate the
Speaker 13: deep dissatisfaction a lot of Americans had with the fact
Speaker 13: that the government was bailing out Wall Street banks, but
Speaker 13: that they weren't helping the middle class. And you know,
Speaker 13: over the years we saw with the rise of Warren,
Speaker 13: who used her platform, including places like The Daily Show,
Speaker 13: to spread this message. You saw the rise of Bernie
Speaker 13: Sanders in his presidential race, and ultimately this just became
Speaker 13: an important part of Democratic party politics.
Speaker 1: And when Donald Trump won, I think.
Speaker 13: It woke up a lot of Democratic officials who said, gosh,
Speaker 13: we better listen to these people. And Joe Biden's presidency
Speaker 13: has really managed to kind of unite the populaces and
Speaker 13: the moderates.
Speaker 1: He's put into place a lot.
Speaker 13: Of things that Warren and Bernie and AOC have argued for.
Speaker 13: And so we're heading into the November election with Democrats
Speaker 13: really unified behind Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Now that's interesting. It's interesting you say that most because
Speaker 3: I don't I theoretically see that. It doesn't seem as
Speaker 3: if that is the feeling. I would say most Democrats,
Speaker 3: they don't feel like they're lining up, charged, ready to
Speaker 3: for Joe Biden right now. I think a lot of
Speaker 3: more far left Democrats still feel like their voices aren't
Speaker 3: being heard. How are are their voices being heard and
Speaker 3: seen through a vessel like Joe Biden.
Speaker 13: Well, I think you look at it two different ways.
Speaker 13: At the national level, all of the important left wing Democrats,
Speaker 13: including my three characters, have all come out and endorsed Biden.
Speaker 13: Nobody decided to run against him, which they could have
Speaker 13: if they wanted to. And even AOC who's had some
Speaker 13: problems with him lately, came out yesterday and said she
Speaker 13: thought he was one of the best presidents in recent
Speaker 13: US history.
Speaker 1: So they're pretty much united.
Speaker 13: But when it comes to the actual kind of rank
Speaker 13: and file of left leaning voters, especially younger voters, there
Speaker 13: is a lot of dissatisfaction with Biden. Maybe that's because
Speaker 13: of its age.
Speaker 1: She's kind of old. He looks like Grandpa.
Speaker 13: Maybe it's because of his kind of really old look.
Speaker 1: Grandpa. Sure, yes, so does Trump.
Speaker 2: But yes, they're both they're both quite old choo.
Speaker 13: Yes, But the challenge for Biden is going to be
Speaker 13: how can he bring those younger people back into his coalition.
Speaker 1: And I think one hope is that, you know.
Speaker 13: My characters will be effective surrogates. You seither that or
Speaker 13: you're gonna have to count on, you know, going on
Speaker 13: TikTok and trying to attract them in other unorthodox ways
Speaker 13: that you know, maybe the Biden campaign is going to
Speaker 13: be so good.
Speaker 3: All you talk a lot about economic populism and what
Speaker 3: people across America really want, and that this this movement
Speaker 3: sort of started from people being disaffected post two thousand
Speaker 3: and eight. You spend a lot of time on the field,
Speaker 3: you're covering this election. I was recently in South Carolina
Speaker 3: and Biden has pretty good numbers right now. When it
Speaker 3: comes to the economy, the stock markets up, inflation seems
Speaker 3: to be going down. You know, we we have unemployment
Speaker 3: that is incredibly low right now. But when I talk
Speaker 3: to the MAGA folks, those aren't the indicators that they
Speaker 3: care about. Partially because yes, but I think sometimes it's
Speaker 3: a political dodge. But sometimes what they focus on is gas,
Speaker 3: and oftentimes gas could never be low enough for folks,
Speaker 3: but housing, housing is an indicator that they feel like
Speaker 3: the Biden administration is not dealing with and the real
Speaker 3: people in America are frustrated with that as an indicator,
Speaker 3: like are the Democrats missing that conversation looking at the
Speaker 3: middle parts of America what they're actually disaffected by.
Speaker 13: No, I don't think they're missing it. And there's been
Speaker 13: a ton of worry about inflation. Of course, that's been
Speaker 13: the main challenge that Biden has had to deal with.
Speaker 13: And you hear that from Republicans, Independence and Democrats. You know,
Speaker 13: unless you spend the last three years like only eating
Speaker 13: at a taco bell, Like you've probably experienced.
Speaker 1: Price inflation and you're not real happy about it.
Speaker 3: I bet also you're not really happy about it if
Speaker 3: you've spent the last fig years just eating reasons too.
Speaker 13: Yeah, But look, look, you know, people's views of the
Speaker 13: economy are looked at through the lens of political partisanship.
Speaker 13: It's true for Democrats, they were very unhappy about the economy,
Speaker 13: Pohl said when Donald Trump was president. So there's a
Speaker 13: certain group of people and their maga Republicans who are
Speaker 13: probably never going to be happy with the state of
Speaker 13: the economy under Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: But what you really need to look at are Democrats
Speaker 1: and independents.
Speaker 13: And the one thing that Biden really has going for
Speaker 13: him running for reelection is that, you know, he dealt
Speaker 13: with the deepest financial crash we've had since the Great
Speaker 13: Financial Crisis, the one that followed the COVID crash, by
Speaker 13: doing what my characters wanted and do what Warren and
Speaker 13: Sanders did. We had three rounds of stimulus and beefed
Speaker 13: up unemployment benefits and student loan freezes, and the economy
Speaker 13: three years later is in really strong shape. As you pointed, out.
Speaker 13: So Biden's best hope is that you know, in the
Speaker 13: ensuing nine months, people are not going to be able
Speaker 13: to ignore all these positive signs of four to one, k.
Speaker 1: Is going to go up.
Speaker 13: They're going to get a good job, They're going to
Speaker 13: feel more positive, and we can see measures like consumer
Speaker 13: sentiment that have turned around pretty strongly. So that you know,
Speaker 13: the way I think of Biden's reelection is like, it's
Speaker 13: not like the Olympics where you have to put up
Speaker 13: a perfect score, you just have to do better than
Speaker 13: the other guy. The things are trending in a direction
Speaker 13: where where you know, it's like it's at least an
Speaker 13: attainable goal.
Speaker 2: We hope, right, the world's slowest hundred yard death the world. Yeah, exactly, yes,
Speaker 2: So if we're still running, we're still running.
Speaker 3: It's interesting to say that he needs to articulate those successes.
Speaker 3: But since you wrote this book, we've had what's happening
Speaker 3: with Israel and Palestine, and I think we are starting
Speaker 3: to see a real shift in the Democratic Party. Obviously,
Speaker 3: AOC's response probably not surprising to folks, but Bernie and
Speaker 3: Warren have been vocally critical of Bbie, leaving Biden in
Speaker 3: a weird location right now, how do you see him
Speaker 3: squaring that with a party that he needs to win
Speaker 3: over and these rebels, as you call them, clearly taking
Speaker 3: a much stronger tax.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great question.
Speaker 13: I mean, in a lot of ways, the story of
Speaker 13: my book is the story of how Democrats came together
Speaker 13: on economics over the last fifteen years. But just in
Speaker 13: the last couple of months, we've seen a new fissure
Speaker 13: open up between the left and the center and the
Speaker 13: Democratic Party over Israel, and it's something that I think
Speaker 13: kind of has taken the.
Speaker 1: Biden White House by surprise.
Speaker 13: Biden initially came out was very much pro net and Yahoo,
Speaker 13: and then as things went south and Gaza and.
Speaker 1: You could see the.
Speaker 13: Rebellion of the left flank, of ordinary act and file voters,
Speaker 13: but also of important elected Democrats like AOC like Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 13: It's a problem that they don't really know how to
Speaker 13: square and so you've seen the White House express concern
Speaker 13: and all these kind of Washington buzzwords. But I don't
Speaker 13: think that that's really satisfying anyone. And that's something they're
Speaker 13: going to have to figure out because in a divided
Speaker 13: country like we've had in what I'm sure shaping up
Speaker 13: to be a fifty to fifty election. They're going to
Speaker 13: need every vote they can get. And these are a
Speaker 13: group of voters right now, people who are upset about
Speaker 13: Israel's campaign in Palestine, that don't at least don't tell
Speaker 13: pollsters that they're real excited to vote for Joe Biden
Speaker 13: right now.
Speaker 3: What do you see the Democratic Party reflecting? Is it
Speaker 3: reflecting more of an AOC version of the Democratic Party
Speaker 3: or is it a Biden's version.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 13: I think if you look at where the Democratic Party
Speaker 13: is today visa VI where it was, let's say in
Speaker 13: two thousand and eight during the last crash at the
Speaker 13: beginning of the book, completely different party. Like when I
Speaker 13: came to Washington as report in two thousand, Biden was
Speaker 13: considered so pro corporate that we used to kind of
Speaker 13: jokingly call in the Senator from corporate America. But if
Speaker 13: you flash forward fifteen years to Joe Biden as president today,
Speaker 13: he's out walking on UAW picket lines. Instituted a recovery
Speaker 13: plan that was geared so much towards the middle class,
Speaker 13: that pushed so much money out the door to working
Speaker 13: people that actually cause inflation, and you look at what
Speaker 13: it is that politicians like Warren and Sanders have called for,
Speaker 13: and I think that's really a large degree of unity
Speaker 13: on economics, and that's one reason why the party has
Speaker 13: remained unified behind Joe Biden. So I think he's come
Speaker 13: a long way in kind of melding the two wings
Speaker 13: of the party in a way that really kind of
Speaker 13: points the direction forward for Democrats generally. I think I
Speaker 13: don't think we're ever going to go back to a
Speaker 13: time when if there's another financial crisis, Democrats are going
Speaker 13: to hand all the money to Wall Street bags. I
Speaker 13: think they've learned that lesson, and I think Joe Biden's
Speaker 13: success in twenty twenty and if he has success in
Speaker 13: twenty twenty four, will help to underline that message.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a great read. The Rebels is available now.
Speaker 3: God's great, everybody, We're gonna take a quick break.
Speaker 2: We're right back after that, John say little bits.
Speaker 3: Of Welcome back to the Daly Show. My guest tonight
Speaker 3: is an actor you know from Captain Marvel, No Time
Speaker 3: to Die and The Woman King. She plays Bob Marley's
Speaker 3: wife Rita in the New biopic Bob Marley One Love,
Speaker 3: Please welcome, Lashana Lynch.
Speaker 2: Jobs welcome. Right they're lovely, right, lovely? I love them
Speaker 2: they are yeh. Might you say it's all one love?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 11: I like it.
Speaker 2: That's nice. It was nice.
Speaker 11: It was nice.
Speaker 2: It was very nice.
Speaker 3: Okay. Going through some of the things you've you've picked
Speaker 3: up over the last few years when you're a part
Speaker 3: of the Marble Cinematic universe, you learn to fly a plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 3: In Woman King, you learned how to fight in No
Speaker 3: Time to Die. You learn how to arm and disarm
Speaker 3: and fire a gun. Do you feel ready for the
Speaker 3: impending apocalypse?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, you've done the work. You prepped for it.
Speaker 11: I've been prepping for all my life.
Speaker 3: You found a way to get paid for it. So
Speaker 3: whatever happens post November, you're going to be in a
Speaker 3: great space.
Speaker 11: Basically.
Speaker 14: Yes, you gotta sneak your little skills and.
Speaker 2: You've got to get into it. You can now write
Speaker 2: it off on your taxes.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 2: Exactly what did you know?
Speaker 11: That's what I was trying to do.
Speaker 2: This is smart, all right?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 3: What did you what skill did you pick up? Working
Speaker 3: on the latest movie One Love?
Speaker 14: None of that, No, that none of that much much
Speaker 14: lighter emotional grasp.
Speaker 11: Oh, definitely, there's a lot of there's a lot of holding.
Speaker 14: You know, Reta Molly is a strong, very powerful, balanced,
Speaker 14: spiritual woman. So I had to make sure that she
Speaker 14: was grounded at all times.
Speaker 2: You had to You had to work on yourself.
Speaker 14: I had to work on myself, my spiritual self, my
Speaker 14: inner self, make sure that I was collected enough to,
Speaker 14: you know, take all of the experiences of all the
Speaker 14: training that you just told me about and put them
Speaker 14: into good use.
Speaker 3: Now, I think you know what a lot of people
Speaker 3: think of Bob Marley, perhaps they're not as familiar with
Speaker 3: the story of Riada Marley. Right for me, in college,
Speaker 3: Bob Marley, I love Bob Marley. He was a poster
Speaker 3: on a wall, and I thought Legend was an album
Speaker 3: that he made as opposed to a Greatest Hits album,
Speaker 3: which is the mistake most college kids made at that point,
Speaker 3: But they weren't aware of readA Marley. When you watch
Speaker 3: this film, you see that she's really the backbone of
Speaker 3: the Bob Marley story. Like, when you read this, what
Speaker 3: did you know about Reader's story and what drew you
Speaker 3: to this well, my parents.
Speaker 11: Are Jamaican, They're born in Jamaica, so I had a.
Speaker 14: Responsibility to take the role and make sure that it
Speaker 14: was everything that it needed to be, Representrita Marley in
Speaker 14: the way that she deserved to and also to uphold
Speaker 14: the legend's story, the legend that we know today. You
Speaker 14: know didn't come from nowhere. She literally is the backbone
Speaker 14: that she held everything together. She ensured that you know
Speaker 14: her children that I mean, the geniuses that they are today.
Speaker 14: And I just wanted to make sure that the remarkable
Speaker 14: woman remained a remarkable woman in the story, and that
Speaker 14: the female narrative was told in the way that we
Speaker 14: know it should be, especially as a woman, as a
Speaker 14: black woman and of Jamaican descent. I just wanted to
Speaker 14: make sure that everyone was on the same page.
Speaker 2: That's I would say, that feels stressful to a big back.
Speaker 11: Light stress, Yes, just light stress.
Speaker 3: I mean my parents are from Michigan, so if I
Speaker 3: had to play eminem that would be a lot of
Speaker 3: stress for me.
Speaker 2: Make sure you get it right, to it right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe kid Rock would be an easier fit. Sadly,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 11: We could talk to someone make it happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's eminem.
Speaker 3: If you're out there and let me, I know, you're
Speaker 3: a better actor than I am and more successful, you
Speaker 3: could probably play yourself.
Speaker 2: But think about me.
Speaker 3: You met Rita Marley, right, Not only is it the
Speaker 3: pressure of upholding this real life figure who is still
Speaker 3: alive and people have opinions about her and what her
Speaker 3: role is, but you're also you're also creating this role
Speaker 3: in the shadow of somebody who is there and watching.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 3: What was it like to to meet Rita Marley and
Speaker 3: what did you glean from her?
Speaker 14: Sometimes you meet someone and it feels like a film.
Speaker 14: Like I walked into her house and her back was
Speaker 14: turned to me, and it kind of felt like I'd
Speaker 14: imagined smoke underneath her chair and like clouds above her,
Speaker 14: and it just felt like I was walking into some
Speaker 14: kind of like heavenly space because she's just really quite angelic,
Speaker 14: actually really peaceful and chill. And I remember when I
Speaker 14: stepped in, I'd only been there for like a minute,
Speaker 14: and her daughter, Sharon was like, Mom says that she's
Speaker 14: really happy that you're here, and she says that you
Speaker 14: have the energy, like whatever that means, And I was
Speaker 14: like the energy, okay, the energy, the energy?
Speaker 3: Oh did you say, did you know what the energy was?
Speaker 3: Or you were like, oh what, but what am I
Speaker 3: giving off? Is it pheromones?
Speaker 2: Vibe? Tell me what the energy? Tell me what the
Speaker 2: energy exactly?
Speaker 11: Can you look?
Speaker 14: Just describe that to me so I know that I'm
Speaker 14: in the right place, like I've.
Speaker 11: I got the wrong address because I don't know what
Speaker 11: I'm doing.
Speaker 14: No, it was it was like a kind of a
Speaker 14: meeting of spirits, it felt like because when I did
Speaker 14: eventually sit down with her, I left my book that
Speaker 14: had three pages of notes in it in my bag
Speaker 14: and just sat on the floor and crossed my legs
Speaker 14: and just kind of like looked up to her almost
Speaker 14: like a little schoolgirl looking at her teacher, and just
Speaker 14: soaked her in, soaked in her spirit and her energy.
Speaker 11: And it reminded me that.
Speaker 14: This process has to I kind of have to kick
Speaker 14: the actor thing to the side and realize that I'm
Speaker 14: a vessel bringing this incredible woman's life or a slice
Speaker 14: of her life to the globe. And like you said,
Speaker 14: you know Bob Marley, you can there's information for days
Speaker 14: on the internet about him with Rita Marley. You know, unfortunately,
Speaker 14: culturally less so, but it was an opportunity for me
Speaker 14: to give the world an education and how incredible she
Speaker 14: is and how meaningful she is to our culture in Jamaica,
Speaker 14: I mean the continent of Africa.
Speaker 11: Like she's just so powerful.
Speaker 14: And her voice has been you know, doing all sorts
Speaker 14: of it's like her voices like that phone.
Speaker 11: It's just kind of like.
Speaker 8: Do you feel like do.
Speaker 11: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Is that the energy?
Speaker 1: Energy?
Speaker 14: That's what I'm talking about, the energy exactly that. Thank
Speaker 14: you so much for that cue.
Speaker 1: Well timed.
Speaker 3: You really you've described like an intimacy with a person
Speaker 3: that unfortunately, I don't know if I've ever experienced with
Speaker 3: another human being in my own life. That came off
Speaker 3: like a cry for help, and I, uh, is it okay?
Speaker 2: You're really bringing up of people, don't you.
Speaker 11: Oh my god, take a minute, he's just going to
Speaker 11: take us out.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god, I didn't. I didn't learn enough
Speaker 2: for my acting classes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, good? Please please? Did you get notes unset
Speaker 3: from family members?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Yeah, we did, no, but I needed them.
Speaker 14: I really needed them because you know, as an actor,
Speaker 14: you do you do your research and you sit with
Speaker 14: the character. We have like eight months I think myself
Speaker 14: and Kingsley to sit with it, have the conversations develop,
Speaker 14: her speak with Reata Marley again, and then we had
Speaker 14: Ziggy Marley and Sidella Marley on set near it every
Speaker 14: day just to kind of tweak things, you know, to
Speaker 14: give us the accuracy and to give us the guidance
Speaker 14: and the confidence that we needed because we're playing real
Speaker 14: legends here and we didn't want to do anything by
Speaker 14: chance and kind of make anything up.
Speaker 11: That wasn't realistic.
Speaker 14: So every so often I'll go to the monitor and
Speaker 14: be like, do I sound like your mom?
Speaker 11: Like would your mom say this? Do I feel like
Speaker 11: your mom today right now?
Speaker 14: And you'd be like, yeah, yeah, all good, all good,
Speaker 14: and of course in my active self and go away
Speaker 14: and be like, I'm not like his mom, terrible.
Speaker 11: I don't know what's happening, but he.
Speaker 3: Does in the macry like mom no, mom, Mom no,
Speaker 3: mom no.
Speaker 2: No, let's shrill. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Until we got to the end of the shoot and
Speaker 14: I thought, well, you know what we've done.
Speaker 11: We've done a good job in telling this story.
Speaker 14: We have an hour and forty five roughly to tell
Speaker 14: a whole life thirty six years of this man, and
Speaker 14: we were able to do it in a really succinct way.
Speaker 14: And I'm proud of it, and I'm proud of Kingsley.
Speaker 10: He's a brilliant really much it is.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a beautiful movie and it really brings
Speaker 3: you into his life and you bring it out wonderful.
Speaker 3: Bob Marley, One Love is in theaters now The Shadow lives.
Speaker 8: We'll take a great bread. That's our job for tonight.
Speaker 2: Now here it is.
Speaker 11: I got you a present.
Speaker 13: It's a bell, which means she wants a bell to
Speaker 13: ring when she needs something.
Speaker 11: I need mini melts, I need crackers. I'm like this gift.
Speaker 1: It's good, right, Wow, Okay, that's amazing.
Speaker 13: Can use for emphasis, for affirmation, or for you to
Speaker 13: get the cheese and crackers at eight thirty.
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly, or if you say when I was in Congress,
Speaker 4: we could do that.
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