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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.

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Speaker 2: I told you yesterday about our evening with Mike Posner

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday night at the iHeartRadio World headquarters. He made

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Speaker 2: people cry, made people laugh, made people think. It was

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Speaker 2: the most incredible night. I wish everyone could have been

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Speaker 2: there for this incredible, incredible experience. I said, Effitt, let's

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Speaker 2: bring him in. Mike Posner's here. Hi, Yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: look at you. You look extremely healthy. I know that's

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Speaker 2: a physical thing. We shouldn't be dwelling on the physical.

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Speaker 2: But you Okay, your skin is perfect, your muscles are bulging.

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Speaker 2: You have a nice bright smile. Obviously you've been working

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Speaker 2: hard at taking good care of yourself.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, man, Well, I eat sprouts, broccoli sprouts

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Speaker 3: every day.

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Speaker 2: You fart a lot? Did probably media? Okay? How do

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Speaker 2: you gauge that non zero number?

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Speaker 3: And I'm in love? Yeah, man, I live this life

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Speaker 3: for real. I really train, I really eat clean and

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Speaker 3: I'm happy.

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Speaker 2: No, you love cleaning. Sometimes it's fun to love dirty.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that stuff. Okay. So at our event

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Speaker 2: last night, he stood up and sang a song, got

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Speaker 2: everyone to sing along, and then he talked about his

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Speaker 2: walk across America, which is our favorite story, and you

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Speaker 2: told it like I've never heard it told before. But

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Speaker 2: within that conversation, you gave us your five the.

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Speaker 3: Five gems of wisdom.

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Speaker 2: Gems of wisdom you learned during your walk across America.

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Speaker 2: Can we go through those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The first one is it came from when I decide

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Speaker 3: I was going to walk across America, and almost immediately,

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Speaker 3: the people I say that worked with me in the

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Speaker 3: music industry, they quickly informed me that this was both

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Speaker 3: a bad and a crazy idea. And that's when I

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Speaker 3: learned that not all crazy ideas are great, but all

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Speaker 2: Number one, all right, sound effect a bell somewhere ring

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Speaker 2: the bell. That's awesome, all right. I know we're breezing

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Speaker 2: through these. I'd rather spend a lot more. But number two.

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Speaker 3: Number two is when I made the decision, I started

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Speaker 3: to feel all this negativity and doubt. You know, some

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Speaker 3: of that was my own doubt, and some of that

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Speaker 3: was I started to think other people's thoughts, thoughts like

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Speaker 3: this is a bad idea, it's going to ruin my career.

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Speaker 3: Thoughts like what if I permanently damage my body, and

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Speaker 3: thoughts like, you know, what if I fail in front

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Speaker 3: of everyone, I just look like an idiot. And I

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Speaker 3: had all these these thoughts bouncing around the walls in

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Speaker 3: and I took a step. And when I took that step,

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Speaker 3: all the fears and doubts about what might happen if

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Speaker 3: I did this disappeared because I was doing it. So

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Speaker 3: the second gemal wisdom is step one is take one step.

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Speaker 2: There you go, God's favorite. God uses that all the

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Speaker 2: time with us. And when you said that last time,

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Speaker 2: immediately thought of GONDI the.

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Speaker 4: Journey of one thousand miles.

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Speaker 2: One step is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, this is a journey of three thousand miles.

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Speaker 3: It's all good, but it still applies, And so so

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Speaker 3: them fast forward to I walk one thousand, seven hundred

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Speaker 3: and ninety seven miles. I'm now in Colorado. I've already

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Speaker 3: crossed the Mississippi River. And you can imagine the pride

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Speaker 3: I was feeling Elvis, having started in New Jersey, gotten

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Speaker 3: I realized I had just been bitten by a poisonous rattlesnake. Oh.

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Speaker 3: I spent three nights in the ICU. I asked first

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Speaker 3: of all, I called nine one one. I asked Dispatch,

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Speaker 3: Oh no, my leg swell the sides of my elfint trunks.

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Speaker 3: Three nights in the ICU, and I go from walking

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Speaker 3: You know. One, everyone's taking care of me. Two, I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm on Good Morning America. I'm on everyone like Mike

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Speaker 3: Poser a bit by rattlesnake, my followers on Instagram or

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Speaker 3: skyrocketing up. All my dms are full of messages from

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Speaker 3: my heroes, people I looked up to since I was

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Speaker 3: me is really liking this being hurt thing. You know,

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Speaker 3: remaining one thousand miles. And this was a crossroads moment

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Speaker 3: for me because I knew that if I went back

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Speaker 3: never be the person I was really supposed to become.

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Speaker 3: It was like I was gonna do it or I

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Speaker 3: was going to live someone else's life. And so this

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Speaker 3: brought me to the third gem of wisdom, which is

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Speaker 3: reasons our excuses. Like I had a reason to quit,

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Speaker 3: which was I almost died, I got bit by a snake.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't meant to be. You know, we say that

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it wasn't meant to be.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Times we're just speaking in code saying I'm giving up,

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Speaker 3: I needed to finish, and so I had to talk

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Speaker 3: attention and go, no, no, I see you. I love you,

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Speaker 3: but you're not in control of my life anymore. And

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Speaker 3: I did something that I was proud of. I went

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Speaker 3: back to the place the snake bit me.

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Speaker 2: The very specific place where that snake hit you. Exactly, wow, exactly,

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Speaker 2: and I was scared. I was having nightmararores about snakes.

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Speaker 2: I still do sometimes. And this is the part I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't say it. I didn't say last night.

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Speaker 2: But I pissed on it. Oh you did.

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Speaker 3: I pissed on the spot.

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Speaker 2: Good for you. We should do more than in life.

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Speaker 2: We should just piss on things that make us mad.

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Speaker 2: I took it back. You owned it.

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Speaker 3: I took it back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you marked it.

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Speaker 3: I marked it, and say, yeah, yeah, this is this

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: And I took a step and I just kept taking

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Speaker 3: What is this? And that's why I stumble on the

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Speaker 3: fourth gem wisdom, which was by the way, did you

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Speaker 3: So the third gym was I think I skipped over

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Speaker 3: it is the reasons are excuses, The reasons our excuses.

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Speaker 3: And the fourth jem yeah bang. The fourth one is

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Speaker 3: true happiness, like deep happiness, or you could call it joy,

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Speaker 3: comes from growth. It doesn't come from pleasure or getting

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Speaker 3: your needs met in every moment. It comes from, Hey,

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Speaker 3: there's something in my life that hurts and I don't

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Speaker 3: to teach me something. There's great joy, peace, happiness that

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Speaker 3: comes from just being on the path. You're at a

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Speaker 3: really suck in this area of life. For me, it

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Speaker 3: So maybe I need to talk to a therapist, or

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Speaker 3: not sucking. What that's happy. Happiness comes from just being

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Speaker 3: on the path. So true happiness comes from growth. Ohd on,

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Speaker 3: there it is. And the last one was that my father,

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Speaker 3: more than anyone that he passed away before I ever started.

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Speaker 3: And I wish he could have saw me learn these

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Speaker 3: And so the sixth gem of wisdom, you know, I

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Speaker 3: gem of wisdom is don't wait. Don't wait, don't wait.

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Speaker 3: You know, I wish, I wish I would have started earlier, right,

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Speaker 2: We have all these dreams, we have all these things

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Speaker 3: We have excuses, we have reasons, we have reasons.

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Speaker 2: There you go, don't wait. And by the way, Mike Posner,

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Speaker 2: and then we've got other stuff. We got to talk

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Speaker 2: about lots of stuff because listening to you and how

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Speaker 2: want to be more like Mike Posner every time you're

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Speaker 2: with us. When he walks out the door. What do

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Speaker 2: I say? I love him. We were actually with you

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Speaker 2: on one of our flyways with listeners right after your

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Speaker 2: and it was it was it was really rough for you.

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Speaker 2: We could see that, and we did everything we could

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Speaker 3: I just it was surreal. I mean, I think about

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to be. I think about you a couple

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Speaker 3: More dangerous loaded Elvis or an empty o oh, unloaded Elvis.

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Speaker 2: Well, you write it for yourself, that's right. I know

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Speaker 3: Because you can die really easily? No? Why out of

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Speaker 3: Because I've done it now, it's ironic because I had

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Speaker 2: So you have the right and license to poop poo

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Speaker 3: how are you a better person now that you have?

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Speaker 2: But going back to the blast where you thought I'm done,

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Speaker 3: Well we talked about whys and intention, right, So why

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Speaker 3: die for self exploration, Right, There's other ways to explore

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Speaker 3: yourself that don't put your life on the line, right,

439
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Speaker 3: So I thought, you know, this is like really selfish,

440
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Speaker 3: right because if I die, I'm dead. But but mom

441
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Speaker 3: just lost dad and out I'm gone. So that that

442
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Speaker 3: why before I started climbing was really cool. But after

443
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Speaker 3: that blast also fell apart. The only why I had

444
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Speaker 3: left after that was I said I was gonna do

445
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Speaker 3: it my own integrity to myself. That's all I had left.

446
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Speaker 3: That's the only reason I experienced that blast and kept

447
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Speaker 3: going up. So that that's the real question. You know,

448
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Speaker 3: I'm joking with you, but is why? Because if your

449
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Speaker 3: why is not solid, or at least one of your

450
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: five whys is not solid, they will get torn apart

451
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Speaker 3: and you will quit.

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Speaker 2: What are you to do with that?

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Speaker 6: It's it's almost like we're talking to Tony Robbins here,

454
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Speaker 6: And I don't mean to equate you to Tony Robbins,

455
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Speaker 6: but you're very inspirational, and so are you because I

456
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Speaker 6: look at somebody like you and you're doing all these

457
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Speaker 6: things that I think we would all like to do.

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Speaker 6: Climb a mountain, walk across the romanticize about doing the romanticizing,

459
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Speaker 6: but he's actually done it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And he said this would be the worst way

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Speaker 2: to die. So my next question is, well, what's a

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Speaker 2: better way to.

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Speaker 3: Die in I don't know if that'd be the worst

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Speaker 3: way to it, I'd be a pretty cool story but.

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Speaker 2: Fabulous way.

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Speaker 3: Okay, answer in a non jokey way. The things we're

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Speaker 3: dying for involve other human beings. I think. Talk about

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Speaker 3: that well, Like, I mean, there's things I would die

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Speaker 3: for now still, but they're not about me, like I

470
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Speaker 3: would die for my girl, like I would die for

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Speaker 3: my mom.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know you have people in your life like that.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to think about it in a heartbeat,

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Speaker 3: of course you would, but you know, to to die

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Speaker 3: exploring oneself or seeing how tough you are.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I get that.

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Speaker 3: What's okay? So what are some some really cool ways

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Speaker 3: to die?

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Speaker 2: No, don't.

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Speaker 4: From an asteroid?

482
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Speaker 2: Asteroids? You're great.

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Speaker 3: What about if you could if you were like if

484
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Speaker 3: you if you were were getting older? Uh, and then

485
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Speaker 3: you got an opportunity you could go in the space,

486
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Speaker 3: but you can't come back. Would you do it?

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Speaker 2: I'm there, I could do that. I'm older. I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: They just send you out, gandhi, Are we the only

489
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Speaker 2: two in this room that we said, we said we

490
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Speaker 2: would go to s right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this plane has got ghetto. I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I would do it, but how for how long? For?

493
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Speaker 3: How long would you go? Hoo? Did you go for

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Speaker 3: those Most people go to the International Space Station for

495
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Speaker 3: a year? No? Did you do that?

496
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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Because that seems kind of boring. This space seems more endless.

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Speaker 4: Like out in to Mars. You take a long time

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Speaker 4: to get there. You can explore while you're there.

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Speaker 3: Did you go if it took two years there? Two

501
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Speaker 3: years back?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? What else am I doing?

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Speaker 1: But when you're talking about so you did walk across

504
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Speaker 1: the country and you did climb Mount Everest, and you thought,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is really why I want

506
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Speaker 1: to go out? Do you still want to do some

507
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Speaker 1: of these crazy or great things? Are you kind of tapped?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It's an interesting you say great? Right, So a

510
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Speaker 3: lot of great human beings are not good human beings, right,

511
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Speaker 3: So I'm really focused on me a good human being too,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, like I'll probably do a walkie, but my

513
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Speaker 3: risk college has changed. So I like to find really

514
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Speaker 3: hard things where no one's gonna die, Okay, because there's

515
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Speaker 3: not a lot of work to do, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, It's not like it's not out of fear,

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Speaker 3: it's out of having a calling. I have music to write,

518
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Speaker 3: I have books to write, I have gifts to share.

519
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Speaker 3: We all have gifts to share, and so I just

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Speaker 3: I just don't want to cut it short having a

521
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Speaker 3: little you know, type two fun. Yeah, right, And so

522
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Speaker 3: that's that's the reason behind it. That's the feeling I

523
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Speaker 3: was feeling on the mountain. You have more music inside you,

524
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Speaker 3: literally and figuratively. And that's the reason why I don't

525
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Speaker 3: want to like climb everest against because I got work

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Speaker 3: to do while I'm alive.

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Speaker 1: So would you say that in doing these things you

528
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Speaker 1: were chasing purpose and then you realize it was there

529
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Speaker 1: all along.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've I've definitely uncovered more purpose and

531
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Speaker 3: purpose changes and evolves over time.

532
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Speaker 2: And always shifting, always moving. It's a very fluid. Purpose

533
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Speaker 2: is very fluid.

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Speaker 3: You ever read a Victor franco Man Search for Meeting,

535
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Speaker 3: No best book ever, But one of the things he

536
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Speaker 3: says is, you know, we we look at life and

537
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Speaker 3: measure why life isn't meeting our expectations, But he says,

538
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Speaker 3: instead ask what life's expas are of you. That's your purpose.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, that totally changes everything. It's the opposite than

540
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Speaker 2: what we've been feeling and thinking.

541
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Speaker 3: This.

542
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Victor Franco.

543
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Speaker 3: Frankel, Frank and this guy, beautiful man, he's not speaking

544
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Speaker 3: from theory. He survived the Nazi concentration camps and wrote

545
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Speaker 3: this book about that and what he found was every

546
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Speaker 3: one of the survivors had so a version of the

547
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Speaker 3: future that they were looking forward to.

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Speaker 2: Excellent. We're going to talk about your music because you know,

549
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: we've talked about We're talked about everything, but the music

550
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Speaker 2: is a part of.

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Speaker 3: Your your wishes. Mike, when higher outstanding, I.

552
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Speaker 4: Don't I don't even know you were sitting You're getting.

553
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Speaker 2: Some stretches going on. You've got the perfect form, So

554
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: talk about your music. Where are you going? Where are

555
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: you going with your music? And where are we going

556
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Speaker 2: to see you? Where are we going to hear you?

557
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Speaker 3: The beautiful, beautiful part about the music is it comes

558
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Speaker 3: with me. And we had a new album coming out

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Speaker 3: February twenty first. It's called The Beginning and it's an

560
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: awesome album. Man, I love it. I love it so much.

561
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Speaker 2: Why do you love it so much?

562
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 3: Because it's real. And a friend of mine Meta Pastor

563
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: last year, and he said, Mike, keep pointing to the

564
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: rainbows while admitting the sun doesn't always shine. Say that again,

565
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: keep pointing to the rainbows while admitting the sun doesn't

566
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Speaker 3: always shine. And I just feel that's what this album does.

567
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Speaker 3: I love that, all right, February twenty First, that's it

568
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Speaker 3: the beginning. Did you ever see yourself traveling around the

569
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Speaker 3: world speaking, maybe do a song or two, but primarily

570
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Speaker 3: talking like this, Yeah, I do, I do. I'm gonna

571
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Speaker 3: start doing it this year.

572
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Speaker 2: You've already started.

573
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've started. I've do some public speaking. I

574
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: get hired for that. But it was it's crazy you

575
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: asked me that, because a couple of weeks ago I

576
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Speaker 3: email from my agents to do a tour to right

577
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Speaker 3: to go to the House of Blues and the Irving Plaza,

578
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: you know, all all the places like play concerts, and

579
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Speaker 3: I was like, this doesn't feel like the thing I

580
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 3: should be doing. And so we don't have it together yet,

581
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: but basically we're building together, you know, a day of

582
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: miracles and transformation.

583
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Speaker 2: I won't we all need for you to do that.

584
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's what we're doing putting it together?

585
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Speaker 2: Are we asking for too much?

586
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:24,479
Speaker 3: No, I'm doing it already.

587
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Speaker 2: We're doing that, mean doing it.

588
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Speaker 3: I mean, we're putting it together now. But I wish

589
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 3: I had it ready to announce boom. We don't. We

590
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 3: just had this email exchange yesterday. We're putting it together

591
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Speaker 3: all right.

592
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Speaker 2: In the intention is there?

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Mike. It's so great having you here.

595
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Speaker 3: It's great to be and and you know, it's cool.

596
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Speaker 3: Wat's that just because because I come here once a year,

597
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 3: once every two years or eighteen months, and then it's

598
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: like one of those like rubrics. I can remember who

599
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: I was last time I was here. You know, you're

600
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: here every day, so it's hard to beat. But you

601
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: have those other places in your life you go like,

602
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: oh wow, I'm a lot different than the last time

603
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Speaker 3: I was here. So it's cool to come back and

604
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: reflect on that.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's to you coming back again very soon. Mike

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Speaker 2: Posner