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Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. AT's hour one on this Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Dan and the Dan En Stan Patrick's show. Glad to
Speaker 1: have you on board. Dominique Wilkins will stop by. What
Speaker 1: advice would he give Aaron Gordon after losing get another
Speaker 1: slam dunk contest? Nick lost to Michael Jordan and he
Speaker 1: also lost his Spud Webb, his teammate Dave Roberts. The
Speaker 1: Dodgers manager, certainly some of his players have had some
Speaker 1: things to say about the astros. We'll talk to the
Speaker 1: manager on how do you use this as motivation this year?
Speaker 1: And at what point does the manager say to his
Speaker 1: players enough, Let's move ahead to twenty twenty. Denny Hamlin
Speaker 1: won the Daytona five hundred yesterday. He'll join us in
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes. We'll talk about those that last lap
Speaker 1: and Ryan Newman. Ryan Newman right now is in stable condition,
Speaker 1: not life threatening injuries there, but we'll keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that, but we'll talk to Denny Hamlin about that
Speaker 1: final lap, as he ended up winning the race, and
Speaker 1: the thrill in the agony of racing was certainly on
Speaker 1: full display. At the Daytona five hundred yesterday, Hamlin won
Speaker 1: in a photo finish as he beat Ryan Blainey, but
Speaker 1: the victory quickly overshadowed by that terrible crash involving Ryan
Speaker 1: Newman on the final lap. For about two hours, we
Speaker 1: didn't know if Newman was going to survive. Ben NASCAR
Speaker 1: announced that he was in serious condition, but his injuries
Speaker 1: were non life threatening. And of course I couldn't help
Speaker 1: but think back to Dale Earnhardt's death same track two
Speaker 1: thousand and one. NASCAR has taken great strides to make
Speaker 1: their drivers safer, the tracks safer, but Monday is you know,
Speaker 1: that was a stark reminder just how dangerous this sport
Speaker 1: still is. It's not easy to feel what two hundred
Speaker 1: miles per hour is like unless you're there at the track.
Speaker 1: I mean two hundred miles the way TV sort of
Speaker 1: sanitizes it and goes, oh, now that that doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like it's that big a deal. Everybody's going two hundred
Speaker 1: miles an hour. You know. That's why when you see
Speaker 1: you saying bolt run, and then you see somebody else run,
Speaker 1: you go, oh, so that's what it's like to be
Speaker 1: the fastest man in the world. Two hundred miles per
Speaker 1: hour when everybody else is going two hundred miles per
Speaker 1: hour doesn't seem that fast. Hopefully Ryan Newman makes a
Speaker 1: full recovery and Monday's race serves as a reminder that
Speaker 1: what we're watching on the track is as serious as
Speaker 1: you can get in sports. Phone calls are always welcome.
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Speaker 1: Got some trigger meat Friday songs for you coming up.
Speaker 1: Play of the day, stat of the day, and it's
Speaker 1: mclovin's duties to come up. I said, duties a full
Speaker 1: question for us today. Okay, which way do you want
Speaker 1: to start? Go back to asters? I know some people
Speaker 1: are getting a little tired Asters, but it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, your friend back in the news. See now
Speaker 1: I got my hometown is gonna be mad at me
Speaker 1: again if I bring up what he said last night.
Speaker 1: I'm not the one saying it. Joe Burrow is the
Speaker 1: one who said he has leverage. Okay, you're the messenger,
Speaker 1: I know, but they always shoot the messenger. All right,
Speaker 1: what do you have for me, mclemot, Let's have with
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. If you're Joe Burrow, would you rather be
Speaker 1: drafted by the Bengals at number one or fall below
Speaker 1: number one and go to another team? Now there's a
Speaker 1: chance that he could be traded out that too, But
Speaker 1: would you rather go, say number five? I think I'd
Speaker 1: rather be number one and traded. I'm not giving you
Speaker 1: that all Okay, yeah, I've been take that one out.
Speaker 1: Do you say the Bengals are not going to do that.
Speaker 1: I'd rather go to a better team because, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go down this road here again, the money is
Speaker 1: kind of similar here in the top five. I want
Speaker 1: to go to a better team. Deshaun Watson went to
Speaker 1: a better team. Patrick Mahomes went to a better team.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to a better team. There's something to
Speaker 1: be said about going to the right team, because you
Speaker 1: can go to a bad team and you end up
Speaker 1: playing poorly because it's a bad team. Joe Burrow was
Speaker 1: honored last night got the Dave O'Brian Award, and he
Speaker 1: was in Texas and he was asked about the Bengals
Speaker 1: and he said, basically, hey, I got a process I
Speaker 1: gotta go through. They have a process they have to
Speaker 1: go through. There's no process for Joe Burrow. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has no choice here. You show up for the draft,
Speaker 1: you don't have a process to go through. Here. The
Speaker 1: Bengals might The Bengals might go, hey, what do we
Speaker 1: do with this pick? Do we really want Joe Burrow?
Speaker 1: What could we get for that pick? Joe Burrow's process
Speaker 1: is what unless it's using his leverage. So I keep
Speaker 1: coming back to that, not because I want to. Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow keeps bringing me back to that he's got a process,
Speaker 1: and he says that he's got leverage. That's what I'll
Speaker 1: give you the exact quote here, McLevin, you're starting this off,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know I was going to start here.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know the question that he got. But
Speaker 1: Joe says, I do have leverage. He was according to
Speaker 1: the fort Worth Star Telegraph, this was during a reception.
Speaker 1: The Bengals have their process. I have my process. We
Speaker 1: haven't even gotten to the NFL combine. Yet there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that happened leading up to the draft
Speaker 1: and a lot of information gathered. Is he talking about
Speaker 1: him or the Bengals? Because what information can he get?
Speaker 1: And how does what does that matter if the Bengals
Speaker 1: are still going to take him number one unless he
Speaker 1: finds out, hey, this team is interested in me. I'd
Speaker 1: rather go to Carolina. But the Bengals, I understand they're
Speaker 1: doing their due diligence. They're they're they're, you know, working
Speaker 1: with their process of you know. And even then, are
Speaker 1: you sold on Joe Burrow? I assume you are. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to go through your process, okay, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a surprise in there. But Joe Burrow is the
Speaker 1: one keeping this, you know, in the headlines. When you
Speaker 1: say I have leverage, all I can think of is
Speaker 1: a Lie Manning and John Elway they had leverage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: bo Joe Burrow talked to a bunch of media outlets
Speaker 1: when he's down there at this reception. They had some
Speaker 1: media time with him, and he said being there, I'm
Speaker 1: want to pick would be a dream come true. When
Speaker 1: the reporter have to follow up asked if he wants
Speaker 1: to go to the city that Crolin holds and hold
Speaker 1: the topics. Since that, he said quote, I'd like to
Speaker 1: play football, So whoever it takes me, I'm a ballplayer,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play. He was asked he'd like to go
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. As answer that I'd like to play football.
Speaker 1: I mean, you go back to what he said to
Speaker 1: us at the Super Bowl and we all immediately after
Speaker 1: he left who went He just said, something's going to
Speaker 1: make headlines here. He's keeping it open. So therefore, if
Speaker 1: you keep it open, then everybody else is going to
Speaker 1: keep it open. And when you use the word leverage
Speaker 1: at the number one pick, how many guys have said
Speaker 1: who were going to be drafted number one to go,
Speaker 1: I got leverage? Just in recent memory, how many guys
Speaker 1: can you think of who said, you know, I got leverage.
Speaker 1: I can't remember any of these guys. You know what
Speaker 1: you're going to make, You're already slotted there, and now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's saying he has leverage. Yes.
Speaker 1: It's like you'd go into any good faith conversation and
Speaker 1: some one side or the other uses the word leverage.
Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so this isn't just like a good faith.
Speaker 1: You know this is a negotiation. Then it goes back
Speaker 1: to what I said about Jerry Jones with this silly
Speaker 1: Tom Brady to the Cowboys rumor. If anything, it was
Speaker 1: started by Jerry Jones just to create a little bit
Speaker 1: of leverage with Dak Prescott. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: any validity to that. And I don't care what Michael
Speaker 1: Irvin says. By the way people put out misinformation now
Speaker 1: about the draft. I mean that's happening with Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: right now that somebody, according to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk,
Speaker 1: is putting out this Teddy Bridgewater wants thirty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, Not that he wants that's the teams want
Speaker 1: to give him thirty millions. Thirty is going to get
Speaker 1: you twenty four. I'm good a guest with Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: I mean that this could be like Scott Boris always
Speaker 1: does this in baseball. Hey he's gonna get four hundred.
Speaker 1: We want four hundred. Four hundred gets you, you you know,
Speaker 1: three thirty. But you know this leverage that you have.
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to this Bengal fans, and I
Speaker 1: know that you're you got blinders on. I don't I've
Speaker 1: been around to have remembered Elway, certainly with Eli. And
Speaker 1: when you say leverage, how many other guys who were
Speaker 1: going to be drafted number one use the word leverage.
Speaker 1: I can't remember anybody in recent memory, and maybe it's
Speaker 1: somebody can remind me of that. I'll gladly mention it.
Speaker 1: But he keeps coming back to leverage. Yami Clovin. Remember
Speaker 1: when they contract with a negotiable then players this is slotted. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Paul Well Kyler Murray did this with a different sport,
Speaker 1: though he used baseball as his leverage with football and
Speaker 1: vice versa. He used football to try to get one
Speaker 1: more big offer out of the A's and he did
Speaker 1: have leverage. He had two different choices. You know, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow has to create leverage by getting a team interested,
Speaker 1: an instant team to trade up, which is if you
Speaker 1: look back at the story with Eli Manning, his dad
Speaker 1: and his agents, they concocted this to get the Giants
Speaker 1: to go, and but they need another team to get
Speaker 1: involved here. It can't just be the Bengals aren't gonna shop.
Speaker 1: They have to be broached. But the misinformation that's out
Speaker 1: there or speculation that's out there, like Matthew Stafford the
Speaker 1: Lions are going to trade, or Tom Brady is not
Speaker 1: going back to the Patriots. It's just there's it's a
Speaker 1: big game of chess, and all of these parts are
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. You know, there's a king that's Brady. You've
Speaker 1: got to queen. You know, you've got your pawns. We're
Speaker 1: probably the pawns. But there's this information that's out there.
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow is leaving it open to interpretation for what reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because he could really close this. All
Speaker 1: he has to do is say I'm going to Cincinnati
Speaker 1: if they want me. I want to go to Cincinnati
Speaker 1: to be number one, to go to Ohio, back to
Speaker 1: Ohio and play for the Bengals. That's what I want.
Speaker 1: What is your process that you're leaving that open for
Speaker 1: unless there's the possibility you're not going to Cincinnati or
Speaker 1: you don't want to go to Cincinnati. I don't make
Speaker 1: this up. I'm not reading into this, and I've been
Speaker 1: accused of it, but I'm not. I'm just pointing it out.
Speaker 1: I hope Joe Burrow, if he goes number one, goes
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. They can use the help there and if
Speaker 1: he goes there, it could be a great story. But
Speaker 1: I'm not naive. Joe Burrow keeps this in the headlines.
Speaker 1: Nobody else he does. Yeah, how are we not including Fritzie?
Speaker 1: And this? Fritzie is the king of the vague answer?
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to go to the Cincinnative Bengals? Like
Speaker 1: you asked Todd this question, he would give you the
Speaker 1: perfect Joe Burrow asque answer. It's a special opportunity to
Speaker 1: turn a franchise around if you would want to do
Speaker 1: something like that, Todd, do you want to go to
Speaker 1: the Bengals? I rather not go to the Oh okay,
Speaker 1: but I do like the idea of being selected number one.
Speaker 1: Of course, there is an upside to play for the Bengals,
Speaker 1: because you can be the hero that turns a franchise
Speaker 1: that's been a disaster around. But by the same token,
Speaker 1: you want to play for a respectable team that has
Speaker 1: a chance to win now and not look horrible like
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer or other quarters. Okay, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: the bit went too far. God finally had a chance
Speaker 1: to give a vague answer for twenty years. He says,
Speaker 1: I don't want to the bank because the definitive answer no,
Speaker 1: but the other his career, who wouldn't want to go
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Speaker 1: the poll questions? GimC eleven? All right, I do have
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be a poll question. But
Speaker 1: I'm curious where our guest today, Dominique Wilkins falls on
Speaker 1: the all time greatest dunker's list, because he is way
Speaker 1: up there for me, okay, in my room. So, who's
Speaker 1: the greatest dunker in the last forty years? Nick Jordan?
Speaker 1: Vince Carter is doctor j who you know forty years
Speaker 1: to nineteen eighty anyone else on that list? Small list
Speaker 1: to me? Yeah, pull, there's a caveat here. We're not
Speaker 1: saying dunk contest. We're saying in game dunker because that's
Speaker 1: a different category, and Dominique is the worst. Top three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a vicious in game dunker. He was that
Speaker 1: Tomahawk un you you did not try to go up
Speaker 1: and block that. Nick was great in transition, dunking great.
Speaker 1: I put him top three, Yeah, and ran a human
Speaker 1: highlight film rank among the best nicknames in sports. Pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know who came up with that human Highlight film.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a columnist in it, like Ferman Bischer, the
Speaker 1: longtime columnist the Atlantic Constitution, but uh Nickel joined us
Speaker 1: in an hour. Yes, So I feel like you're not
Speaker 1: that into Michael Jordan as a dunker because there was
Speaker 1: so much more. I feel like he was actually even
Speaker 1: a better in game dunker than Dominique. There was so
Speaker 1: much more about Jordan like he wasn't. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had some great in game dunks, usually against the Knicks,
Speaker 1: but Mike had felt like would get a steal and
Speaker 1: go in for just a solo dunk, whereas Nick was
Speaker 1: in traffic and he was dunking. You know, Mike after
Speaker 1: a while stopped going to the hoop because he was
Speaker 1: the hell beat out of it. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, air Jordan sort of came back down to earth.
Speaker 1: He developed that baseline post up move fade away. But
Speaker 1: you know the pistons. I think we're saying to Mike,
Speaker 1: if you're coming in here, you're going to leave with
Speaker 1: a bruiser two. What other poll questions do you have
Speaker 1: for me? By the way, Denny Hamlin will join us
Speaker 1: coming up in about ten minutes after the dayton of
Speaker 1: five hundred. It was. It was incredible TV. I mean
Speaker 1: that's and I'm glad you know Ryan Newman is now
Speaker 1: he's in serious condition, still in the hospital. But that
Speaker 1: last lap, I mean, yeah, Denny Hamlin go from first
Speaker 1: to third to first in a span of about twenty seconds.
Speaker 1: And just the magnitude of that race, what's at stake
Speaker 1: and everybody on that last lap. There's always crashes on
Speaker 1: the last lap almost almost every year. You just don't
Speaker 1: see them at the front. Usually they're at the back
Speaker 1: of the pack. Everybody is doing whatever it takes on
Speaker 1: the final lap, and you know, our good buddy Denny
Speaker 1: Hamlin wins his third third dates on a five hundred.
Speaker 1: All right, MC club and one else okay, astros no
Speaker 1: a lot of player anger out there. I'm asking you
Speaker 1: a question. Okay, if you are a picture on an
Speaker 1: opposing team, would you throw it at astros? Why is
Speaker 1: it now all of a sudden it's okay to throw
Speaker 1: it Guys like Nick, Now we've said, hey, I think
Speaker 1: it's cheap when you throw at somebody. Oh you're thrown
Speaker 1: at the Astros. Oh that's okay. I don't want you
Speaker 1: throwing at the Astros. What I'm concerned about is if
Speaker 1: I throw a pitch that is interpreted as I'm throwing inside,
Speaker 1: then that's not fair. I have the right to do
Speaker 1: that as a picture, and I think some pictures they're
Speaker 1: going to be unfairly blamed and maybe thrown out of
Speaker 1: a game or at least warned because they're gonna throw inside.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't taking matters into your own hands.
Speaker 1: That doesn't okay. I mean, in a moment, hey, I
Speaker 1: got him, I hit. I don't know who cheated on
Speaker 1: the Astros. I mean, I'm not sure does it make
Speaker 1: a huge difference. Well, I don't want to be hitting
Speaker 1: some guys. It's like the guy who gets hit because
Speaker 1: the previous guy hit a home run. He didn't do
Speaker 1: it anything wrong. But if you were there I mean, okay, guy,
Speaker 1: you got the team, who was it? Kraft said, al
Speaker 1: Twobe didn't cheat. First of all, I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: Second of all, I know by association, I know. But
Speaker 1: so then I hit everybody, yes, right, Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of everybody is guilty. Because you're telling me that.
Speaker 1: There's like a handful of guys sitting at the end
Speaker 1: of the bench who are like, why is not Timmy
Speaker 1: whistlin all the time? Oh? They know the pitches. Don't
Speaker 1: do that for me. I just want to do it
Speaker 1: the right way. Okay, But if you know your teammates
Speaker 1: using steroids, should you then come forward to say, you know,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's over there, he's all puffed up on steroids here, Like,
Speaker 1: I know, you you have to police your own clubhouse.
Speaker 1: And but it feels like there are only a couple
Speaker 1: of guys cheating, and there are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who say I should have done more to stop it.
Speaker 1: I'm not buying that. But like this, Hey, I'm the
Speaker 1: sheriff and said, I just can't believe that. Justin Verlander,
Speaker 1: if he knew this was going on, And Brian McCann,
Speaker 1: these are veterans, these are guys who always have something
Speaker 1: to say about policing the game that they couldn't walk
Speaker 1: into that locker room and go, guys, this is not
Speaker 1: going to continue. Yeah. See, That's what I love so
Speaker 1: much about that statement is I should have done more
Speaker 1: to stop it, which implies you did something to try
Speaker 1: and stop it and there and the team was like, Nope,
Speaker 1: that's what I want to know. If Justin Verlander said
Speaker 1: I should have done more, my question would have been,
Speaker 1: what did you do? A J Hinch, what did you do?
Speaker 1: I should have done more. I guess everybody should have
Speaker 1: done more. And there's some other things that I guess
Speaker 1: people don't realize about the commissioner. And he hasn't had
Speaker 1: a good week. But that's the nicest thing said about
Speaker 1: That's the nicest thing I've heard about him this week.
Speaker 1: He did not have not had that good He did
Speaker 1: not have a good week. He had an unprofessional year.
Speaker 1: But he instead of devaluing the trophy, it's just a
Speaker 1: piece of metal and the fact that these guys wear
Speaker 1: the scarlet letter that look of shame for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives. Those are stupid comments by him. He
Speaker 1: did talk about really the legalities here of what Baseball
Speaker 1: didn't do prior to the SEGN stealing. So they didn't
Speaker 1: even have something in place where the commissioner would say, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys knew about this rule. I mean, that's why
Speaker 1: Pete has gone forever, because there's a rule about gambling
Speaker 1: and it's right there on a clubhouse wall. They didn't
Speaker 1: have that in place. Therefore, that's why there would have
Speaker 1: been so many grievances filed. You know, Baseball would have
Speaker 1: probably gotten roughed up here and they wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to punish the players. Okay, if that's the case,
Speaker 1: take away the trophy. That punishes everybody. But you don't
Speaker 1: get into grievances. You don't get into the players, so
Speaker 1: you can punish everybody. And when you vacate, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you give There are people in the media say, well,
Speaker 1: if you vacate, who are you giving it to? Reggie Bush?
Speaker 1: That trophy didn't get you know, Bench Young didn't get
Speaker 1: the trophy that's in a storage facility. If you vacate,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean somebody gets something. You know, with Michigan's
Speaker 1: Fab four, Fab five, they vacated, they don't they didn't
Speaker 1: go to somebody. Villanova had to vacate their runner up
Speaker 1: in the national title game. It didn't go to somebody
Speaker 1: you vacate. Leave it blank. Then it's a stark reminder
Speaker 1: of exactly what happened in twenty seventeen. Denny Hamlin, fresh
Speaker 1: off to win at Daytona, will get his thoughts how
Speaker 1: far away he was from the accident with Ryan Newman,
Speaker 1: because they're trying to celebrate a little bit, and then
Speaker 1: they realize and they're probably a mile and a half
Speaker 1: away to understand the magnitude of how big that track
Speaker 1: is with where they were. And then once they found
Speaker 1: out the serious nature of Ryan Newman's accident, that's when
Speaker 1: they taped down their celebrations. So we'll talk to Denny
Speaker 1: Hamlin about the final lap there at Daytona, Dominique Wilkins
Speaker 1: later on, and the Dodgers manager Dave Roberts just getting
Speaker 1: started twenty one after the hour. Here this is the
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Speaker 1: All right, So what's the poll question we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with and we'll get to Denny Hamlin. I would put up,
Speaker 1: to be honest if I was an opposing picture what
Speaker 1: I throw at the ask? So I think the audience
Speaker 1: feels differently than you. I think they would. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: try that. We'll see all right once again. Ryan Newman
Speaker 1: is in stable conditions, still in the hospital, not life
Speaker 1: threatening injuries. In that final lap at Daytona, Denny Hamlin
Speaker 1: won his third Daytona and he joins us on the program. Denny, congratulations,
Speaker 1: take me through the last two laps of yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just uh for me, is kind of crazy, but we were,
Speaker 1: you know, obviously leading coming with two to go, and
Speaker 1: then we h I'm trying my best to stay in
Speaker 1: front of those guys. But I knew that you know,
Speaker 1: I had seven boards I think lined up behind us,
Speaker 1: and you were the only turn at that point, and
Speaker 1: I knew that they would be coming with run, so
Speaker 1: also turn too. He told me that the the guys
Speaker 1: were two Ryan Both Ryans were two links back, and
Speaker 1: I knew at that point I was probably too far ahead,
Speaker 1: so I kind of relinquished the spot. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to try to throw a block and end up getting
Speaker 1: us crashed on the backstretch. So those guys who got
Speaker 1: beside me and then got past me and I linked
Speaker 1: up on the back bumper of of of Blaney, and
Speaker 1: I knew my best shot was to kind of push
Speaker 1: him towards the lead and just kind of see what happens.
Speaker 1: And and when those guys head down hit you know,
Speaker 1: came off to turn foward, went towards the yellow line.
Speaker 1: You know, I knew that there was going to be
Speaker 1: contacts or I tried to stay as hard right as
Speaker 1: I could away from him. But I saw Ryan Newman's
Speaker 1: card turn right right in front of me, and as
Speaker 1: soon as that happened, I saw Blaney's car and I
Speaker 1: went down and side drafted him and got that lunge
Speaker 1: right to start finish line just enough to win it
Speaker 1: all again. I felt like you had to go to
Speaker 1: third to get back to first. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, I had an opportunity to stay
Speaker 1: next to Ryan down the backstretch but Blaney, but I
Speaker 1: knew that if we were going to be side by side,
Speaker 1: then the race was over for me. So my best
Speaker 1: option really was to kind of push him back towards
Speaker 1: the lead um and then hopefully either they get together
Speaker 1: or I can go three wide at the Star finish line. So, um,
Speaker 1: I knew my best opportunity was to check up in
Speaker 1: the term three, get to Planning's back bumper, and push
Speaker 1: him towards Newman. When did you realize you had won?
Speaker 1: You know, right when across the line. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: been in a photo finished there in twenty sixteen, which
Speaker 1: is the closest finishing history, and I think this one
Speaker 1: was now the second. Um, so I'd been in that
Speaker 1: position before, and I knew that I was I was
Speaker 1: just far enough the head to beat him. But um,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know it's just a you know,
Speaker 1: one hundred or two hundred yards before the Star finish line,
Speaker 1: we were, you know, about third place, and we just
Speaker 1: uh somehow made it up up there and won the race.
Speaker 1: And you know it was very unexpected, especially after that,
Speaker 1: you know, going down the back stress in the finale,
Speaker 1: when I go back to third, I just thought that
Speaker 1: the race is over. But we just kept digging. Why
Speaker 1: did you realize something was up serious, serious nature with
Speaker 1: Ryan Newman? Yeah, I mean I didn't know anything, um
Speaker 1: until I got in Victory lane. Um, not until uh
Speaker 1: you know that when they called off the interview at
Speaker 1: the start finish line. Um, they I knew that something
Speaker 1: was up at that point. Um. So I drove into
Speaker 1: Victory Lane and they said, you know, uh, you know
Speaker 1: there was a serious injury with Ryan. I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: it yet. So I saw the camera person there and
Speaker 1: they had the monitor, uh, and they were replaying it
Speaker 1: and I watched it back then I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I say, definitely serious. And so it was you know
Speaker 1: a bit of a quiet Victory Lane. I guess you
Speaker 1: could say, you know, there wasn't you know, because there
Speaker 1: was a lot of speculation, a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: not a questions that people didn't know, and um, but
Speaker 1: luckily we got some better news later on that evening.
Speaker 1: But I thought that your owner Joe Gibbs, and you
Speaker 1: both handled it. I mean, you guys knew that there
Speaker 1: was something's there's even when you got out of the car,
Speaker 1: you're basically saying, hey, you know what, we won. I'm happy,
Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know what just happened to
Speaker 1: this driver, And even with you know, Jill Gibbs saying
Speaker 1: basically the same thing, like it was a muted celebration
Speaker 1: by your team. Yeah, I mean, I mean it has
Speaker 1: to be, right. I mean, you think about you know,
Speaker 1: someone's well being or someone's health as obviously way more
Speaker 1: important than you know, any sporting events you could you
Speaker 1: could win. You know, we're out there for entertainment purposes, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, Lin's got to two daughters
Speaker 1: and I've got two daughters myself, and so, um, you
Speaker 1: definitely can relate and you definitely think about you know,
Speaker 1: them and their family during that time. And you know,
Speaker 1: just from my perspective, and we still haven't celebrated, you know,
Speaker 1: it's still this is going to take you time to
Speaker 1: kind of um think about and flect on in the
Speaker 1: next few weeks. I don't think people understand the magnitude
Speaker 1: of that track though, Denny, because the feeling I got
Speaker 1: reading some social media is how are you celebrating with
Speaker 1: the wreck? You're probably a mile and a half away
Speaker 1: from where Ryan Newman's car is. I guess give people
Speaker 1: a perspective of where Victory Lane is with where Ryan's
Speaker 1: car was. Yeah, and even the Starfinish line, you know,
Speaker 1: they were all towards kind of between starfinish line in
Speaker 1: turn one, and you know, I'll be honest with it,
Speaker 1: there's there's Rex at the end of these races nearly
Speaker 1: every single time, so there's this is definitely not out
Speaker 1: of the ordinary. Um, but simply when when we went
Speaker 1: to the Star Finish line and they the TV personalel
Speaker 1: that came up and said that no interview here, I
Speaker 1: thought something was up. And then when we went to
Speaker 1: Victory Lane and NASCAR official came and talked to Europe
Speaker 1: with That's when I knew that, Like Hey actually told
Speaker 1: the guys like stop, don't throw anymore gatorade. You know
Speaker 1: that he's seriously hurt, and everyone at that point just
Speaker 1: kind of settled down. So, um, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's so far away, and like I said, this track
Speaker 1: is two and a half miles in length, so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can be. Um, what you would think is close
Speaker 1: proximity and you're you're a mile away. If I would
Speaker 1: have told you ten years ago you'd have three day
Speaker 1: twon of five hundreds, what would you have said? Uh,
Speaker 1: when am I going to start winning? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean to have the run we've been
Speaker 1: on the last five years to when three of them
Speaker 1: has been incredible and we've just uh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: definitely feel like I've I've gotten better at those types
Speaker 1: of races. They are different than than what we run
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, but um, you know, we've just
Speaker 1: kind of got a knack for it, and it's things
Speaker 1: if the results have showed all the work that we've
Speaker 1: put into it. So one of them several different ways.
Speaker 1: Like I said, you know, part of the too closest
Speaker 1: finishes in history. But uh, I tell you, it's it's
Speaker 1: an amazing run that we're on right now. You know.
Speaker 1: It's strange though, when I'm watching this in real time
Speaker 1: and I see the crack we're so used to you
Speaker 1: guys just getting out of a car. I remember what
Speaker 1: clip boyer with what happened to him and any cars
Speaker 1: on fire, he puts his glady to take gets out,
Speaker 1: takes his gloves off and a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and just throws him in the car. Like we're just
Speaker 1: so used to you guys being indestructible with these cars
Speaker 1: with the tracks, with the walls here, And I think
Speaker 1: that was what was shocking. You just kept going, wait,
Speaker 1: he's not getting out, He's got to get out, And
Speaker 1: then then then the serious nature really set in. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I mean it's it's it's something that sometimes we
Speaker 1: do take for granted because in the cars and all
Speaker 1: the equipment that we that we wear has the innovations
Speaker 1: and the safety advancements that have come so far. But
Speaker 1: when you forget it, I mean, we are going two
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour and in time a car can
Speaker 1: turn up on its roof like that, that's an opportunity
Speaker 1: for another car to drive right into it. That's kind
Speaker 1: of what happened. So it was definitely a WORSTKD scenario.
Speaker 1: You know, that's probably the the weakest part of the
Speaker 1: car or the most exposed is right there through the
Speaker 1: roof or through the driver side winternet. But you know,
Speaker 1: luckily we've got you know, like I say, that you
Speaker 1: know much better and encouraging news that we think is
Speaker 1: going to be okay. Well, congrats, Denny. I know that
Speaker 1: that'll get lost in it, and obviously Ryan's health is
Speaker 1: a paramount here, but I thought you and Coach Gibbs
Speaker 1: and your team handled it extremely well. Well. I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Denny. Yeah, thanks Danny. Denny Hamlin winner of
Speaker 1: the Daytona five hundred once again, Ryan Newman non life
Speaker 1: threatening injuries but still listed in serious but stable condition
Speaker 1: in the hospital. You know, when I got to the
Speaker 1: point where they weren't showing the car, they were interviewing drivers,
Speaker 1: and then I couldn't help but think back to Dale
Speaker 1: Earnhardt because after a while, those on the scene knew
Speaker 1: that Dale was dead, and they bring out the black tart.
Speaker 1: And once you bring out the black tart, that's where
Speaker 1: you're trying to protect everybody watching of what's going to
Speaker 1: happen when you take the driver out of the car.
Speaker 1: And I just I couldn't help but think of and
Speaker 1: Dale Junior was there, and like I, I, you know,
Speaker 1: there's just so many emotions that went through in a
Speaker 1: span of about ten minutes. Yeah. See, so the car
Speaker 1: that hit Newman is Ryan Blainey. Yeah, no, no, No,
Speaker 1: the one who hit him after the flip, the one
Speaker 1: so no, the one that tapped them that caused them
Speaker 1: to flip out. Correct, that's the one that I'm referring to,
Speaker 1: not the one that then again the second sort of hit.
Speaker 1: He and Blaine were locked up and then they spun.
Speaker 1: Newman went up into the wall. That's just part of racing.
Speaker 1: I'm good to guess it is, especially on the last
Speaker 1: lap that that that's what I mean, you're trying to
Speaker 1: win and yeah, and you know, I thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting too that Denny Hamlin said, like, there's I knew
Speaker 1: that there were seven Dodges behind me and no toyotas,
Speaker 1: so that so he's just saying he knew that he
Speaker 1: had no teammates. Everybody was trying to beat him there,
Speaker 1: nobody was going to work with him. Ford was all
Speaker 1: that was a collaborative effort there, of you were trying
Speaker 1: to get somebody on your team to win, right, it's
Speaker 1: a collaborative effort. Until the last ten seconds of the
Speaker 1: race and Blaney and Newman, one of them is going
Speaker 1: to go past the other one and they got a
Speaker 1: little loose together. But then the second hit was the
Speaker 1: one that really damaged his car, because we go with
Speaker 1: airborne the top of the car and the driver's side
Speaker 1: got hit full blast, and that's where his car really
Speaker 1: got damaged inside. And then you started to see the
Speaker 1: gas leak out and then you saw the fire there
Speaker 1: and it felt like and it's an eternity with you know,
Speaker 1: the paramedics, the ms, you know, fire trucks to get there.
Speaker 1: I know that they're there in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 1: You know, those are people who are prepared to do this.
Speaker 1: And there's a hospital right next door, basically on the
Speaker 1: grounds of Daytona and and you could take in there
Speaker 1: in a matter of a couple of minutes there. But
Speaker 1: you know, back at two thousand and one, Michael Walter
Speaker 1: won that race and that last lap that the crash
Speaker 1: that played the life of Dale Earnhard, and Michael walterp
Speaker 1: was celebrating as well. People didn't know, like Earnhardt doesn't
Speaker 1: die on the track, like Michael Walter is probably thinking
Speaker 1: if you look at that crash, you're going and looks
Speaker 1: sort of benign, doesn't look trattned like Ryan Newman's look horrible,
Speaker 1: but We've gotten so accustomed to seeing these crashes. You know,
Speaker 1: you got the Hans device, the soft walls there, and
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, feel like they're indestructible. And I
Speaker 1: just kept saying, get out of the car, Get out
Speaker 1: of the car, Get out of the car. And then
Speaker 1: you see the fire there and then the gas and
Speaker 1: I go get get him out of the car, Get
Speaker 1: out of the car. Yeah. And Daytona is notorious for rex,
Speaker 1: especially in the last twenty last I think there was
Speaker 1: four wrecks in the last fifteen laps of the race
Speaker 1: and they were hard wrecks. There was other ones as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: has been holding what do you have for me? Robert
Speaker 1: again five eight two hives. I'm of the belief that
Speaker 1: Manfred should have punished the players. I think that it
Speaker 1: would have forced certain Astros players to come out and
Speaker 1: say that they weren't a part of the cheating scandal,
Speaker 1: and it would have forced others to file graevance. And
Speaker 1: I don't think they would want the bad press. I
Speaker 1: don't think they want people to know that they're saying,
Speaker 1: you know, well, there's no rules against it, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't cheating, and I just don't think that they would
Speaker 1: put up a protest. I think they would have taken
Speaker 1: the punishment that Manfred Caitlin. I think he misread this
Speaker 1: from start to finish, but thank you, Robert. Look, I
Speaker 1: understand it. Actually, if you're a Dodger fan or a
Speaker 1: Yankee fan, at some point, what do you want out
Speaker 1: of this? Like, what's going to satisfy you? Nothing? You
Speaker 1: take away the title, you're not getting it. What's going
Speaker 1: to satisfy you? You don't like it? You know if
Speaker 1: I'm the commissioner, and commissioner can be you know, railing
Speaker 1: on the media, but he should be listening to some
Speaker 1: of his players, including Mike Trout. Mike Trout doesn't make
Speaker 1: headlines with anything he ever says, and he made headlines
Speaker 1: yesterday because Mike Trout was talking about how he was
Speaker 1: upset about this. Here's Mike Trout yesterday. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with the punishments, you know, the players not you know,
Speaker 1: getting anything. You know, there was a player driven you
Speaker 1: know thing. It sucks to because he said, a guy's
Speaker 1: career has been affected. A lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: lost jobs. It's it's it was tough. That's a tirade
Speaker 1: for Mike Trout anybody else that's just comments, that's a
Speaker 1: tirade for him. Oh my god, did you hear what
Speaker 1: Mike Trouted. That's basically what the commissioner's reaction should be.
Speaker 1: Mike Trout, the best player of the game, had that
Speaker 1: to say. Justin Turner, the Dodgers did not mince words
Speaker 1: with the commissioner, calling the World Seri trophy a piece
Speaker 1: of metal. I mean, I don't know if the commissioner's
Speaker 1: ever won anything in their life. Maybe he hasn't. But
Speaker 1: the reason every guys in this room, the reason every
Speaker 1: guy is, you know, working out all offseason and showing
Speaker 1: up the camp early and putting in all the time
Speaker 1: and effort is specifically for that trophy, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is called the Commissioner's trophy. So for him to devalue
Speaker 1: it the way he did yesterday is just tells me
Speaker 1: how out of touch he is with the players in
Speaker 1: this game. And you know, at this point, the only
Speaker 1: thing devaluating that trophy is this as commissioner on it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those are those are smart comments, though, I mean, really,
Speaker 1: what he's saying is, wait, it's just a piece of metal.
Speaker 1: It feels like it means a lot, but maybe it doesn't. Commissioner.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good burned by Justin Turner. There ye.
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's sort of a hind the scenes
Speaker 1: problem with athletes in general who their league is run
Speaker 1: by people who didn't play. I mean, at a certain point,
Speaker 1: don't you feel like if you were excuse me, you're
Speaker 1: an elite athlete absolutely used to be used to be,
Speaker 1: so don't you think you'd be kind of like, what
Speaker 1: are these lawyers know they never competed for anything? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did. I never approached it from that angle. That's
Speaker 1: what that clip said to me, Like, dude, you never played,
Speaker 1: so stop. I could understand why Justin Turner would say
Speaker 1: that that. Okay, wait, so that thing's just a piece
Speaker 1: of metal. So the paycheck I get is just a
Speaker 1: piece of paper, like if you you know, we're dealing
Speaker 1: with silly analogies, but that's what it is. Hey, it's
Speaker 1: just a piece of paper. Well it's valuable, it's my paycheck.
Speaker 1: That's just a piece of metal. Well there's a World
Speaker 1: Series trophy there. This is what I saw on the
Speaker 1: athletic today and the reason why the Astros players were
Speaker 1: not punched, or at least one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: baseball would have been smoked. In the words of an
Speaker 1: official with knowledge of these matters, the Astro players would
Speaker 1: have prompted, you know, the punishments would have prompted grievances
Speaker 1: and wound up before an arbitrator, and Baseball would have
Speaker 1: been they wouldn't looked like tools and the reason being,
Speaker 1: according to the Athletic, in labor relations, the concept of
Speaker 1: giving notice is hugely important. Management must clearly lay out
Speaker 1: how the workplace is to be run. That means providing
Speaker 1: both notice of the rules and notice of what type
Speaker 1: of punishment will follow if those rules are broken. Baseball
Speaker 1: had not worked out the right to punish anyone with
Speaker 1: the Major League Baseball Players Association, although that may change
Speaker 1: for the twenty it should change for the twenty twenty season,
Speaker 1: a relevant detail according to the Athletic. The Astros investigation
Speaker 1: also would have made a grievance difficult because the general manager,
Speaker 1: Jeff Lunow, who got fired, did not pass on the
Speaker 1: league sign stealing rules to the dugout, failing in the
Speaker 1: act of giving notice. One Astro player said to a
Speaker 1: member of the media yesterday, when's this going to stop.
Speaker 1: It's not going to stop this year, and it may
Speaker 1: never stop. It'll always be there whenever somebody brings up
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Astros. It's coming back up. When L
Speaker 1: Twovea is up for the Hall of Fame, it's coming
Speaker 1: back up. Burlander up for the Hall of Fame might
Speaker 1: come back up again. It's going to be there whether
Speaker 1: you like it or not. And remember that's supposed to
Speaker 1: be the punishment. Commissioner told us that, hey, they got
Speaker 1: to live with this, okay. In the analogy I use yesterday,
Speaker 1: I'm a bank robber. I robbed a bank. I got caught,
Speaker 1: but I get to keep the money and my pictures
Speaker 1: in the paper, and that should be enough to punish you.
Speaker 1: That's what we have here. I just I can't imagine
Speaker 1: that there's only a couple of Houston Astro's players who
Speaker 1: are involved in this. But it's starting to feel like
Speaker 1: everybody's saying he didn't do it, and I didn't do it.
Speaker 1: I didn't need to do it, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: do it, Okay, So those pictures, like those pictures didn't
Speaker 1: go you know what, I'd hate if somebody was doing
Speaker 1: that to me, although those pictures probably got the benefit
Speaker 1: of a bigger lead, like, hey, you know I could
Speaker 1: use five runs today, guys, how about that. I'm going
Speaker 1: against Max Scherzer or somebody. Can you load me up
Speaker 1: a little bit there? I love to hear whistling. Yeah, boy,
Speaker 1: what's the results of the poll question there? Mclovin. Would
Speaker 1: you throw at an Astro's batter if you were to
Speaker 1: posing picture? Yes? Yeah, Well what if you hit him
Speaker 1: in the back? I mean maybe you're gonna get run.
Speaker 1: I like how the commissioner now comes out and he's
Speaker 1: basically saying, Hey, let's protect these guys who cheated. Hey,
Speaker 1: don't harm them him next messages, what do you tell
Speaker 1: your team if you're Dave Roberts the Dodgers, we'll talk
Speaker 1: to him. Coming up. Also, Dominique Wilkins, the great dunker
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