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Speaker 2: He's LeVar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox and for Dan and

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington. Happy Black Friday to you and yours.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's the very black Friday for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: every Friday black.

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Speaker 2: By the way, remind me to Friday for me the

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Speaker 2: dust off my yearly Rob Parker joke where I just

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Speaker 2: kee him up and I'll say I'll say Happy Black Friday, Rob.

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Speaker 6: Every Friday's Black Friday for me.

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Speaker 2: But we are off and running here.

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Speaker 4: How can I get them deals? Well, show me your

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Speaker 4: black card.

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Speaker 2: Please look at him.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I got and flooding that black card all around here.

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Speaker 2: So how was the How was the Turkey Day holiday?

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Speaker 2: Did you dive into some bird?

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Speaker 4: I did? I did twice down.

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Speaker 7: In fact, we did it earlier in the week because

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Speaker 7: we would be running around, chasing around watching my daughter

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Speaker 7: sit the bench for Oregon and yeah, and then then

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Speaker 7: we're going to turn back around and have some leftovers

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Speaker 7: with men man on the bench on Saturday. So this

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Speaker 7: has just been a it's just been it's been a

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Speaker 7: bench tour for me. But it's all about the support.

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Speaker 7: It's not about the playing time, it's about the support.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, so there's that in between the traveling. We've

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Speaker 7: done the Thanksgiving meals so that we could kind of

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Speaker 7: all sit down. Man came in from from State College

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Speaker 7: last night for a few hours to get some food

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Speaker 7: and get some family time.

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Speaker 4: So that was pretty cool. It was cool. It's it's

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Speaker 4: been a good, good holiday.

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Speaker 2: What about yourself, Well, yeah, we just you don't hung

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Speaker 2: out with the in laws kind of uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: just stuffed our face a little bit, and that was.

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Speaker 4: That I eat what was on the menu. You know,

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Speaker 4: did y'all jump into bird?

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Speaker 2: Yeah we did the bird? Did some ham?

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Speaker 4: Did did I do some pig? Already answered it's pig,

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Speaker 4: isn't it? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but you know, it's a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I think you were trying to say that.

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Speaker 4: What are you trying to say.

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Speaker 2: An actual pig sitting on the table that we've got

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Speaker 2: to like, you know, like sift through Like no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's every other day of the year. Mexican culture they

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Speaker 2: do it different, you know, from time to time.

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Speaker 7: But I know, I know the Italians don't make it

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Speaker 7: through all of the you know, all of the courses

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Speaker 7: of meals before they get to the turkey, and then

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Speaker 7: they're full before the turkey. Not my words as Dean

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Speaker 7: Blandino saying that, So yeah, I don't know. I just

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Speaker 7: figure you would say that plow through too many Tamali's

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Speaker 2: The food is fantastic. The food was fantastic. But I

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Speaker 2: was shocked because it did feel like a home game.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking around going.

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Speaker 4: Where's the uh, where's the sauce?

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Speaker 2: Was like, what's the hey, Sarah.

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Speaker 4: Where's the tortilla?

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Speaker 2: Maker. That thing's always a minute.

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Speaker 4: Mac and cheese.

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Speaker 6: Wait a second, wait and you guys, can you guys

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Speaker 6: call mac and cheese too?

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Speaker 4: Damn all these yees. No, you did it right there.

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Speaker 4: No you did not. I appreciated news.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'll be half of my family yours totally. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it felt like it felt yellow growing up sweet. But

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Speaker 2: it is to Molly season. So that'll that'll start, uh,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about something watching the uh, the game

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Speaker 4: I'm watching the.

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Speaker 2: Bengals and the Ravens, and then.

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Speaker 4: Something occurred to me and I what was it?

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Speaker 2: You and I on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe,

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Speaker 2: which you can hear before the Dan Patrick Show weekday

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Speaker 2: mornings here on Fox Sports Radio. You and I we

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Speaker 2: both had the Ravens going to the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 2: it occurred to me last night watching that game. They

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Speaker 2: kind of stink. They're really not They just got very good.

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Speaker 4: They're not good anymore. What happened, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: We just talked about there shouldn't be enough defense in

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Speaker 7: the world for for Sincey to be able to win

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Speaker 7: in Baltimore against that offense. Not enough defense in the world,

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Speaker 7: let alone Cincinnati to go in there and do it.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just it's it's the Joe Burrow effect though,

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Speaker 7: like he's like everybody's kryptonite, you know, That's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is and look, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. Look, obviously it doesn't help their defense, and

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Speaker 2: that's really been the problem for Cincinnati's We've laid out

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Speaker 2: on our show that Joe Flacco's played well, like it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like he was struggling while he was in there.

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Speaker 7: But it's not Joe Burrow and the Joe Burrow impact

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Speaker 7: the effect. Yes, yes, that's a real thing. Okay, let

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Speaker 7: me ask you this, if you were if you were

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Speaker 7: going into a game with I don't know, just say,

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Speaker 7: it's a really good ball player that's backing up Kobe

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Speaker 7: mj or Kobe is out of the game. Do you

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Speaker 7: feel the same way, Do you have the same type

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Speaker 7: of confidence level that you would if and maybe you

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Speaker 7: don't know this, I don't know. Maybe you got to

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Speaker 7: be an athlete to know. But you can assume, right,

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Speaker 7: assume you can assume what.

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Speaker 2: What am I going to be frager? But point taking?

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Speaker 2: Here's the point, point taking.

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Speaker 7: But here's the point, right, all seriousness, You're going to

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Speaker 7: have more confidence when you have your best player on

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Speaker 7: on the field, and especially at the main position. If

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Speaker 7: you have your guy at his position. They know Joe

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Speaker 7: Burrow as the guy that took them to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: They know Joe Burrow is the guy that should be

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Speaker 7: a league MVP probably last year, if not for you know,

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Speaker 7: the heroics of you know, other guys, which I mean

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Speaker 7: it is what it is, all right, but that that

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Speaker 7: does have a positive, profound impact on the rest of

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Speaker 7: your team when you have uh, the guy like you know,

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Speaker 7: Lat's back, Lat's back, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 7: it definitely does have an impact. And clearly that's a

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Speaker 7: thing because they lose games. They what, they've only won

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Speaker 7: one game without Joe Burrow. When Joe Burrows out, they've

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Speaker 7: won like one game, one or two games. I believe

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Speaker 7: that was believe it.

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Speaker 2: And that was one of the storylines going into the

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Speaker 2: They would get off to these poor starts. Their record

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Speaker 2: this mad dash to try and make the postseason like

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Speaker 2: they were last year. And that's why they've missed a

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Speaker 2: and so this year, well, we're going to have him

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Speaker 2: play in the preseason. We're gonna make sure we come

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Speaker 2: in and there's not a lot of rust. They come in,

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Speaker 2: they start off the year two and zero and you're thinking,

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Speaker 2: all right, well, at least the plan worked, and then

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Speaker 2: he gets hurt and then they just went in this

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Speaker 2: downward spiral. Joe Burrow after the game talked about his

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Speaker 8: It had to knock some rust off there in the

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Speaker 8: it was great to be back out there. I was,

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Speaker 8: you know, a lot of emotions running through it at

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Speaker 8: be back with the guys. You know, anytime you can

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Speaker 8: get a big win like this, it's it's exciting. And

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Speaker 8: guys work really hard for this. You know, we are

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Speaker 8: where we're at with our record, but guys work really

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Speaker 8: So when you're able to do that, it feels good.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they would need some things to fall their way,

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Speaker 4: A lot of pressure on them to try to get

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Speaker 7: I mean, but think about it, if they if they

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, I don't I know,

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Speaker 7: the playoffs. Just win, just win, just keep winning. There's

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Speaker 7: enough games left that if they just keep winning, if

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Speaker 7: this be Bengals team has so much tilent talent on it.

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Speaker 7: They didn't even have Jamar in this game, Like think

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Speaker 7: about that. Yeah, they didn't even have him and they

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Speaker 7: didn't even have their their main receiver.

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Speaker 4: So you get you get hendrickson back.

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Speaker 7: I'm assuming he'll come back and and and continue to

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Speaker 7: You you'll get your You'll get some elements of your

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Speaker 7: half of this season and could be a team to

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Speaker 4: They could very.

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Speaker 7: Well storm back, just based around the idea that that

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Speaker 7: the Steelers will give away a game. The Ravens they're

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Speaker 7: giving away games. I mean, I don't know if we

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Speaker 7: call it give it away. I don't Again, they don't

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Speaker 7: look like they're a very good team. And the Steelers,

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Speaker 7: I know they play without Aaron Rodgers, but the Steelers

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Speaker 7: if Aaron Rodgers' injury can't you know, get rectified to

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Speaker 7: the point of where he's comfortable.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that all works out. What is

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Speaker 4: you know how that works?

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Speaker 7: But this is not the same team without without Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 7: And I don't know how good they are down the stretch. Honestly,

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Speaker 7: So it aligns for Cincinnati to be able to not

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Speaker 7: only climb back into it, they could take it over

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Speaker 7: and win it. They could win the AFC nor because

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Speaker 7: it's not a very competitive strong AFC North this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, they've got a couple of division

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Speaker 4: See fully healthy.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that you could call it an overreaction

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Speaker 4: Maybe hambling, maybe that might be it, But otherwise I

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Speaker 2: What not what what? Nothing?

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Speaker 7: So you're saying he has to ends the facility of

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Speaker 2: Yeah you do, there, you do.

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Speaker 7: I didn't know, bitches, But but yeah, I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's that they have not looked good all year,

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Speaker 7: It's the inconsistencies for me, man, Like, they're all inconsistent.

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Speaker 7: That's crazy. All four teams are in the conversation. As

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Speaker 4: Boom, here you go.

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Speaker 7: You go into an offseason with the momentum of what

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Speaker 4: Go after a couple receivers in your draft.

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Speaker 7: Go after some offensive linemen that can be like anchor

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Speaker 4: Go for those aspects.

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Speaker 7: is very interesting because how much time do they have?

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Speaker 4: How much do you have?

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Speaker 7: How much time do you have in Pittsburgh before you

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Speaker 7: really see what this roster really truly is? How much

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Speaker 7: time do you have in Baltimore before you see what

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Speaker 7: this roster really truly is?

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Speaker 4: How much time do you have?

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Speaker 2: And also look at if you're Cincinnati, like you know,

447
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Speaker 2: last night, you're out there dealing and Joe Burrow's working

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Speaker 2: off rust and t Higgins is out with the concussion

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Speaker 2: and all that, Like you get him back. Joe Burrow's

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Speaker 2: got a game under his belt. I'm telling you, he's

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Speaker 2: the best quarterback in the division in my mind, and

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Speaker 2: it's not close like this, he's the best quarterback in

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Speaker 2: the division, especially with Lamar's health and all that. If

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Speaker 2: they like, if he's got his full compliment. I know

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Speaker 2: it's thirteen to one on DraftKings for them to win

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Speaker 2: the division. I just I'm looking at it going maybe

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Speaker 2: it is possible. I don't know, maybe it is Paul.

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Speaker 2: And then that being said, they could come out, they

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Speaker 2: get their full compliment of weapons around Joe Burrow and

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Speaker 2: they get annihilated next week. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's one of those things. It's inconsistent as hell,

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Speaker 2: but it's the AFC North, So there's a I.

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Speaker 4: Think it makes it.

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Speaker 7: I think it makes it very interesting moving into moving

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Speaker 7: into where we're going.

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Speaker 4: Because it is they are.

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Speaker 7: They have been such a amazing teams, such amazing franchises

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Speaker 7: for the National Football League, for the AFC. They've built

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Speaker 7: the reputation of the AFC North. I mean, all these

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Speaker 7: teams have built the reputation of the AFC North, but

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Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Ravens have been the gold

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Speaker 7: standard of the division, and they've been a gold standard

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Speaker 7: for the National Football League as well. It's interesting to

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Speaker 7: see where these teams, if that legacy, if that tradition

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Speaker 7: that they've built through the years. The decision makers that

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Speaker 7: are in play now because there are different different decision

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Speaker 7: makers at the GM's positions that aren't historically a part

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Speaker 7: of the successes of these teams, these franchises. Can they

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Speaker 7: right the ships, Can they get these teams going in

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Speaker 7: the right directions and how much time is it going

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Speaker 7: to take for them to be able to do it.

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Speaker 7: It seemed as so Pittsburgh may have pulled a fast

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Speaker 7: one on us. They got out to the type of

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Speaker 7: start that would make you consider that the steps that

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Speaker 7: they took this offseason weren't worth looking at and criticizing.

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Speaker 7: I know, I was very critical. It looked as though

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Speaker 7: they got off to a different type of start. But

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Speaker 7: you know, to me, now, I don't know, man. I

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Speaker 7: don't know about the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I don't know

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Speaker 7: about the Baltimore Ravens, and I don't know that there's

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Speaker 7: any indicator other than saying for Baltimore you have Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 7: But you asked a question that's a very legitimate question.

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Speaker 7: Has he hit his ceiling?

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, I don't. I don't know, man. There's

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Speaker 2: something off there. There's something off with all of them.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun, you know, it is fun to discuss

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Speaker 2: the AFC North. It is two pros and a cup

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Speaker 2: only Rowdy Ian Rodney to find out what the hell's

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Speaker 10: And good morning, guys. How we doing. We are good.

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Speaker 10: I hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, I got you, buddy.

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Speaker 11: But let's start with this in case you missed it.

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Speaker 11: Justin Jefferson was asked about the Vikings backup quarterback Max

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Speaker 11: Brosmer just have to start this week in place of

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Speaker 11: JJ McCarthy. He said, quote, he's definitely a good QB

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Speaker 11: to be able to fit in with this offense and

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Speaker 11: create a spark for us. That's something we really need

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Speaker 11: right now. So a little bit of an indirect jab

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Speaker 11: at JJ McCarthy, what do you think, guys, I was

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Speaker 11: being honest.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's inang. I mean that's kind of the

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Speaker 7: only way to interpret it, right. They need a spark,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 2: Have been great if Justin Jefferson they would have said, ay, so,

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Speaker 2: what's the what's your favorite thing about Max Brosmer. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that he's not JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: That might have been the funniest thing that could have

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Speaker 4: been funny just.

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Speaker 2: To see, because man, the JJ McCarthy thing that is

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Speaker 2: not going well?

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Speaker 4: Or do you after that?

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Speaker 7: I don't give the team if you if you want

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Speaker 7: to your players comes out and says that where do.

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Speaker 4: You go next? Where do we go from here?

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Speaker 2: The other thing that I think it's lost in all

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Speaker 2: of it is because people point out, man, you decided

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Speaker 2: to move on from Sam Donald, and you decided to

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Speaker 2: move on from Donald, and what did Sam Donald do?

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Speaker 2: Since he's gotten to Seattle. They also decided to move

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Speaker 2: on from Daniel Jones too, like that he was also there,

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Speaker 2: like he signed with Minnesota. So it just it is

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Speaker 2: not gone well. I mean it's pretty early, but he

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Speaker 2: just hasn't been available also, like he hasn't been able

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Speaker 2: to stay healthy and now he's out again with a concussion.

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Speaker 4: So it's wild man, Oh well.

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Speaker 11: Riverside, Yeah, and it's like, well, Max Brosmer is the

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Speaker 11: one that you're saying creates a spark over McCarthy's.

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Speaker 2: That's correct, That is correct.

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Speaker 11: Anyway, Next up, Ryan Days pulling an interesting move ahead

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Speaker 11: of Ohio State's rivalry game versus Michigan. Here, he's decided

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Speaker 11: to have his team fly to an arbor for the

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Speaker 11: game as opposed to take the bus as they've historically

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Speaker 11: done for the matchup, Day said, the Buckeyes fly to

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Speaker 11: their other road game, so he wants to quote.

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Speaker 10: Keep the routine.

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Speaker 2: The routine, that's what it is, and he knows the past.

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Speaker 10: Four years hasn't worked. So he's trying to make some

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Speaker 10: adjustments here.

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Speaker 7: Trying any old thing at this point. Now, you better

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Speaker 7: get a you better get you better get a professional

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Speaker 7: hip hip hYP tazzler, go get it.

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Speaker 4: What is the you will wake up?

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Speaker 2: Is missus Cleo still around? That's that's that.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's more looking at your your you know,

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Speaker 7: your toro card.

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Speaker 2: Try anything at this point, I mean, I.

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Speaker 7: Guess, I guess em on, I tell you what happened

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Speaker 7: in the future for you? No, no good things of you.

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Speaker 2: It's Joe white ass hasn't beat Devin five years.

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Speaker 7: I don't I don't know what what uh what accent

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Speaker 7: that was jonas I clicked that one. Oh okay, all right,

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Speaker 7: that was more like mister uh. I don't know that

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Speaker 7: was not Cleo. That wasn't I don't know what type

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Speaker 7: of type of Yeah, let's just go to break you

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Speaker 7: you roin the bit.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you can. That's a big nervous. It's a big nervous.

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Speaker 2: Is this the Ohio State fight song?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 2: Is this the Ohios? Do we have this correct? Is

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Speaker 2: this the one?

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Speaker 4: Ab?

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Speaker 2: Is this the one?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Thanks for getting my nerves?

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Speaker 4: Okay, be nervous.

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Speaker 2: I just uh, I mean Ryan Day's got an interesting approach.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the news auber Breer,

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Speaker 2: but Ryan Days having the team fly in as opposed

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Speaker 2: to that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which I would think, like actually would take longer

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Speaker 3: because thinking about it, it's like a little under three

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Speaker 3: this charger, but like going to the airport boarding getting

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Speaker 3: off in Detroit and then it's like still another whatever

659
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Speaker 3: twenty five minutes from an arbor, Like I would think

660
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Speaker 3: that would take longer, right, Am I wrong about that?

661
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Speaker 4: I think you're reaching, Abe.

662
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Speaker 7: I think you're reaching because you're trying to end your mind.

663
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Speaker 4: Justify if it goes wrong.

664
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Speaker 7: Why they should have just want to hit and drove

665
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 7: in the buses as opposed to you're going to start

666
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 7: it as the origin of messing up this year's game

667
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 7: was the fact that Ryan Day chose to fly instead

668
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Speaker 7: of draft.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, put this out logistically. I'm a travel connoisse dower.

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Speaker 7: So I'm just saying what it sounds like. Abe, That's

671
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 7: what I'm just. I just want you to say. I

672
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Speaker 7: just want you to understand what the listener is hearing

673
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Speaker 7: from you right now.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's all I want.

675
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, no, I'm just I'm actually just like,

676
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: you know, looking at this because I'm I'm kind of

677
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: like a I'm I'm like a doctor of travel. Basically,

678
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: this based on all the travel I've done. So I

679
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 3: just I like to analyze these things, you know, from

680
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Speaker 3: a from a pure fact standpoint. And I'm not sure.

681
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I'm not sure what will be faster.

682
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 3: I think driving might be faster.

683
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Speaker 4: Do you really think so? I mean that's interesting, I

684
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Speaker 4: think so.

685
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well no, it's like two hundred it's two hundred miles, right,

686
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 3: So it's it's it's almost like exactly two hundred miles.

687
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 3: So you figure you can do that in three hours? Okay,

688
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 3: So if you do that in three hour hours, like

689
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: it probably takes you, I don't know, fifteen minutes to

690
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: get from fifteen twenty minutes get from campus to the airport.

691
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 3: Then how long does it take you to board the plane?

692
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 4: Right? Like probably like forty five to an hour.

693
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Speaker 3: You're probably in the air for it's probably like a

694
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: half hour forty five minutes in the air. Right then

695
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: you land, you taxi, you d plane, you get on

696
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 3: another bus, Like, I think how far as that bus?

697
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 3: More than three hours? Huh?

698
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 4: How much is how far is the bus from the

699
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Speaker 4: hotel from where you're going?

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Speaker 3: Well, in thirty five because the Detroit airports like halfway

701
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Speaker 3: between actual Detroit n and Arbor, so it's like twenty

702
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Speaker 3: five minutes.

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Speaker 7: It might be a quicker, it might be much sounds

704
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Speaker 7: a little quicker, huh. It sounds a little quicker to fly.

705
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 7: Maybe not that much, but maybe a little quicker.

706
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Speaker 3: It's cool.

707
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 4: It might it might be too.

708
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 7: Close to to like split hairs on. It is what

709
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Speaker 7: you're trying to say, right, So they.

710
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Speaker 4: Should should they drift? So should they have draft? Baby?

711
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Speaker 3: I don't mind, I don't mind. No, I don't. I

712
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: don't mind. I don't mind keeping the routine. I think

713
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 3: that that was smart by Ryan to keep the routine.

714
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 3: I'm just again like I'm way too interested in these

715
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Speaker 3: sorts of questions.

716
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna get your uh, your your pick on

717
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: the game, like we do every single week when you

718
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Speaker 2: join us on Fox Sports Radio. But I did want

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00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: to ask you, based on what we saw last night,

720
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: because look, Joe Burrow gives him a boost, they come back,

721
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: Cincinnati wins that game. What's wrong with Baltimore because, like, honestly,

722
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: because it just it hasn't looked good really all year

723
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: outside of a couple of spots. But Lamar Jackson does

724
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: not look like the same player.

725
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Speaker 3: Well, and I think that's sort of what it comes

726
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: down to. I think their defense is fine for the

727
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: most part, like I and I think, like what you

728
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 3: saw last night was one of the best players in

729
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 3: football coming back into the lineup in the second half

730
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 3: of that game really looking like himself, you know, which

731
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Speaker 3: you would expect Joe Burrow to be able to, you know,

732
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Speaker 3: create generate offense, you know, no matter who's on the

733
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Speaker 3: other side. So that was you know, obviously part of

734
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Speaker 3: the equation. But I do think the Baltimore defense has

735
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Speaker 3: played pretty well on balance over the course of the year.

736
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Speaker 3: So then you know, like you then then the next

737
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: question would be where it's the offense at and like really,

738
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: to me, that offense is not like the same all year.

739
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: And you know, I think if we're going back to

740
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: when Lamar got hurt, right like, and how that affects them,

741
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: Like I thought last night, like for the first time,

742
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: it does look like he's start he's starting to get

743
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 3: the juice back in his legs right like where you

744
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: can still you can still you know, pull it and

745
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 3: run it the way that he's always been able to.

746
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 3: We started to see that come back, like last night,

747
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: I think he saw it. I just wonder, like, you know,

748
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: like does this injury has this injury had an effect

749
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: on his mechanics, because you know, quarterbacks like little things

750
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: can screw up screw up things to the point where

751
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, like maybe it's not the most noticeable

752
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: thing in the world, but you can throw your accuracy

753
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: off a little bit, you know, or it can make

754
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: you It can it can it can cause a little

755
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 3: bit of like a tweak in the way you play.

756
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: That needs to be fixed when he gets to the offseason.

757
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 3: So you know, Lamar is still a great, great player,

758
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 3: but we're so used to him being, you know, in

759
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: that group of four quarterbacks with him and Burrow and

760
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 3: Mahomes and Allen, and it's just like again, like not

761
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 3: like he's falling off the face of the earth. But

762
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Speaker 3: they don't look as dangerous offensively as they have and

763
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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see if they can get that together.

764
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: Because remember, as you know, up and down as things

765
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: have been, they they did win five in a row

766
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Speaker 3: going into last night's game, and the rest of their

767
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: schedule is pretty interesting. They'll play the Steelers twice. They

768
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Speaker 3: got to play the Bengals again in two weeks, and

769
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Speaker 3: so you know, as stranger as it sounds, for two

770
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: is coming in last night, three and eight, Like the

771
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Speaker 3: door is still open for the Bengals to win the

772
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Speaker 3: AFC North. They need some help for sure, but like

773
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Speaker 3: there's a way for it to happen if they swooped

774
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Speaker 3: the Ravens. The Ravens are up to seven losses then,

775
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: and so the Ravens would only need to lose one

776
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Speaker 3: more game and the Ravens play the Steelers twice. I

777
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: believe it that the Lions in there too, where it'd

778
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: be like you could easily see them losing one more game,

779
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: and if the Steelers level off like now, all of

780
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: a sudden, if the Bengals can run the table, and

781
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: that's a lot to ask, but the Bengals run the

782
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: table now all of a sudden, they can seek in

783
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Speaker 3: the playoffs.

784
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Speaker 4: I think you're absolutely correct.

785
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Speaker 7: In fact, I feel like that's what I explained to

786
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 7: Jonas early on in the show.

787
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Speaker 4: By the way, So there you go. I like your

788
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 4: reasoning right there.

789
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Speaker 7: Ab Let me ask you about another team that finds

790
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Speaker 7: themselves in maybe a compromising position right now based off

791
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Speaker 7: of what Mike Vrabel has been able to do in

792
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Speaker 7: Newing Lynn.

793
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: Are the Buffalo Bills? Are they plateauing?

794
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 7: Are are they hitting a ceiling of sorts in terms

795
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 7: of what we should expect and anticipate from them.

796
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some interesting questions with them, LeVar, like I

797
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: so like, I mean, one is like they do need

798
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 3: to get healthier, right so they won't get Oliver back

799
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: until the playoffs. But that's obviously a huge piece for

800
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 3: them to lose, and they're relying on some younger guys

801
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: like Walker and Sanders to pick up the slack for

802
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: them on the interior of the D line, which is

803
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 3: a big deal, right Like and then not having Dalton

804
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: Kincaid that was that was an issue. I mean the

805
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 3: collapse of Keon Coleman like that hurt as well, which

806
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 3: part of the reason why they're bring in Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

807
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: I think the overarching question now become one at such

808
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: a high level with that core that they built around

809
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. You know five, six, seven years ago when

810
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: you had guys like Hide and Ployer and Stefan digg

811
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Speaker 3: And and you know, that group was able to win

812
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: at a high level. And now what you've done is

813
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 3: you've effectively replaced that group with some homegrown talent. And

814
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 3: so you paid Rousseau, you paid Khalil Shakir, you paid

815
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: James Cook, you paid Terrell Bernard, you paid Christian Benford. So,

816
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: like a lot of people said, it's a window closing,

817
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 3: I don't think that's it. Like I think where it

818
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: is is this group that you've paid isn't good enough,

819
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, and was that money

820
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 3: well spent? And I think we know how good the

821
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 3: quarterback is, but there's a lot more to it than

822
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 3: just the quarterback here, and so I think seeing that

823
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: part of it play out is going to be the

824
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Speaker 3: interesting thing because they really need those guys that they paid,

825
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: those guys that they've invested in to be part of

826
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Speaker 3: the new corps that replaced the first corps that Josh

827
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Speaker 3: won with to step up and be who you know,

828
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: like they thought those guys were going to be able

829
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 3: to be when they paid them.

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Speaker 2: Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior

831
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Speaker 2: NFL reporter the MMQB dot com. You can get him

832
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: on x at Albert Breer. We kind of made mention

833
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: of this a little bit last hour because you know

834
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: we're watching, you know, you're going to see the Bears

835
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: play later on NFC North. Things are headed in the

836
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: right direction. It seems like you see the Packers and

837
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: the Lions teams that are still good teams, and then

838
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 2: you got the Vikings and how patient are they going

839
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Speaker 2: to be with JJ McCarthy knowing they let Sam Darnold walk,

840
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: they let Daniel Jones walk, and this is the result.

841
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Speaker 3: So, like I I think there are two layers this.

842
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: There's this year and then there's the future, right, So

843
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: for this year, like Max Brosmer did enough, you know,

844
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: in the summer where they would and I talked to

845
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 3: people that have said this, like they would really like

846
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 3: to see what he looks like in a regular season game,

847
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: and they had no idea if that opportunity was going

848
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: to present itself, but he had done enough where it

849
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: was like, you know, we'd really like to see what

850
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: this kid could do at some point, right, And so

851
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: there's that piece of it, and that could happen. It

852
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 3: looks like it's going to happen organically this week with

853
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: with McCarthy's concussion, right, so you know, if JJ's out

854
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 3: this week, then they get a look at Max Brosmer,

855
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 3: and then you know, the question becomes like is Brosemer

856
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 3: a better option if he plays really well for the

857
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 3: rest of the year, you know, And then there's a

858
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: second level to it, which is what does this mean

859
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: for the future. Well, you know, I think a big

860
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: piece of the rest of this year for them was

861
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: like we need answers on JJ McCarthy now, and we

862
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: need to figure out who he is now so we

863
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 3: can start to plan for twenty twenty six and going forward.

864
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: And you know, really for them what that's about. It's

865
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: not like they want to continue to develop JJ. There's

866
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff they love about JJ, but this

867
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: isn't a rebuilding team. And I've said this to you

868
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: guy since March and April, right when they did try

869
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: to bring DJ back and they did try to bring

870
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: Sam back. Like, this is a team that's got a

871
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: lot of proud veteran players that are the primes of

872
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 3: their career, right Like, so like if I'm Justin Jefferson

873
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: or Jordan Addison or Christian Darisaw or Jonathan Gernard or

874
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: Andrew Van Ginkel, like like I don't want to hear that,

875
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, like we're going to spend another year

876
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 3: figuring this out. Like you got to have answers on

877
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: the roster for those guys, right Like, this isn't a

878
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 3: team that can just throw seasons overboard in the name

879
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 3: of quarterback development. So like I think JJ has to

880
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 3: earn his spot for twenty six and then he plays

881
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: great the rest of the year, they go in the

882
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 3: playoffs and make some noise, then he's a quarterback. If

883
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: it looks like it's looked, I fully expect that they're

884
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: going to bring in competition for him next year, you know,

885
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: So like there's a lot on the line, I think,

886
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: and again, like it's not necessarily JJ's fault, but like

887
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: this is a double edged swort of going to a

888
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: place like this. When he was drafted, everybody's like, well,

889
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: that's a great spot to go, and it was, you

890
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 3: know what I mean, that absolutely is a great spike

891
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 3: took go with Kevin O'Connell and the receivers they have

892
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: in the Ligne, they have all that different stuff. The

893
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: other edge to that sword, though, is that like a

894
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 3: place like that isn't going to be his app to

895
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: wait for you. You know. It's kind of like San

896
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 3: Francisco back a few years ago with Trey Lance. It

897
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 3: was like that team could not wait for Trey Lance

898
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: to develop. That team needed an answer and in the present,

899
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 3: and they got that answer with proc party and they

900
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: moved forward. So there's some similarities between this situation and

901
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 3: where the Niners were a few years ago with Trey Lance.

902
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 7: How are how are the internals looking at what's going

903
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 7: on in Las Vegas?

904
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 4: Ab?

905
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 7: I mean that to me, you know, everybody was making

906
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 7: a hu haa hooray about Tom Brady and his ability

907
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: to get information and make this this Vegas team super

908
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 7: Bowl competitor. They bring in Pete Carroll, my goodness, everything

909
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 7: they got a hold of Pete Carroll's old quarterback. He

910
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 7: rejuvenated Geno Smith's career. Where are we right now and

911
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 7: how we're viewing the Las Vegas Raiders?

912
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 3: Well, that information, I guess hasn't helped them with sons, right, Yeah,

913
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean I think there's some push and pull here, LeVar.

914
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously you got a coaching staff that was older,

915
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 3: that had a bunch of guys that were kind of

916
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: matched together, right, so, you know, like Pete Carroll had

917
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 3: not worked before with Chip Kelly. Pete Carroll had not

918
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 3: worked before the d C. Patrick Graham either, you know.

919
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: And you know, I think a lot of this was

920
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: on the coaching side put together to like how competitive

921
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: can we become right now? And you know, I think

922
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 3: for the front office there's like a little bit of

923
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: a different look at this where this was never going

924
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 3: to be a one off season rebuild. It was always

925
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: going to take longer than that. You know, Like the

926
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: roster they inherited needed to work in just about every

927
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: single way, you know, and so like I think that's

928
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: been where there's been some level of tension. I mean

929
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 3: even going back to like the trade deadline, you know,

930
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: where where they had players that they could have flipped,

931
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: you know, for picks going forward, and part of not

932
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 3: doing that was having a coaching staff that wanted to

933
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: compete in here and now. And so now you're sort

934
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: of left in this in between. You fired your offensive

935
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: coordinator and it's like okay, like, well what's next? And

936
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: I honestly look at it like this is still a

937
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 3: multi off season rebuild. It's still going to take you know,

938
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 3: a couple of years to get this thing where they

939
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: where they want to bring it, where it can be

940
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: a real contender for a championship. And you know, I

941
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 3: think because of that, there are gonna be some big

942
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: picture questions that are going to be asked about all

943
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: kinds of areas of that operation coming out of the

944
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season. And I expect that Tom Brady's

945
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 3: gonna be a big part of that, of course, you know,

946
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 3: as he has been, but you know, thus far, I

947
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: mean it just I guess what you're looking for is

948
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: like just a little pieces of progress, right like that

949
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: gives you something to hang your hat on going into

950
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 3: next year, and we haven't gotten a lot of those yet.

951
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: Albert, is there any coach that is maybe potentially coaching

952
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: for his job down the stretch here in the last

953
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: handful of games that might be a surprise to some

954
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: people maybe the seat than some know.

955
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all know, like Mike McDaniel

956
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: is going to be in that position, right like, just

957
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 3: because we don't know who the general manager is going

958
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: to be, you know, going forward obviously, like you already

959
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: have a couple of openings, you know, the Giants and

960
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 3: the Titans eating coaches. I'm just trying to think of, like,

961
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, the one that like people keep

962
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: talking about and I think he's a fantastic coach, but

963
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: like you know, Todd Bowles in Tampa, like if they

964
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: were to really collapse down the stretch, Like I I

965
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 3: wonder a little bit in that in that one, you know,

966
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: because I do think like when you've talked about it

967
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: for as many years and has come up for as

968
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 3: many years as it come up in as many years

969
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: that it has, is that one where it's like all right,

970
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: like you know, you know, we're building behind Baker Mayfield now,

971
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 3: and this is a natural spot to make a change,

972
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 3: you know. I think the one that everybody's gonna bring up,

973
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: the two that everybody are going to bring off, like

974
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: if the seasons go the wrong way, are going to

975
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: be Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Now, I don't think those teams

976
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: would ever fire those guys, but like there's going to

977
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 3: be that well, you know, next year would be Tomlin's

978
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 3: twentieth year in Pittsburgh. Next year would be Harbot's nineteenth

979
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: year in Baltimore. And so you know, I think if

980
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: if those teams disappoint down the stretch, you know, those

981
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 3: conversations are certainly going to happen out in the public.

982
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: You know, Privately, I think it would be more about

983
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 3: like is this time? You know what I mean, rather

984
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 3: than being any sort of firing. So, you know, we'll

985
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: see what happens with those. And I'm just trying to think.

986
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: I know there's one that I'm forgetting right now that

987
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick myself for forgetting to bring up with

988
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: you guys.

989
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 2: McDermott, did you mention McDermott, I know we talked about

990
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: the earlier.

991
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 3: I don't I don't get any sense like that internally

992
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 3: they're having those discussions. However, you know, I think the

993
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 3: I may have I've said this a few different times.

994
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 3: I may have said it to you guys before. I

995
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: can't remember, but I I like like I sort of

996
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 3: looked at like look at a little bit like Tony

997
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: Dungee and Tampa. If you remember, back in the day,

998
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: Tony Dungee did such an incredible job of of and

999
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: you guys remember, and you guys, you guys remember how

1000
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: terrible they were before he got there. They were They

1001
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 3: were not just the laughing stock of the NFL. They

1002
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 3: were like one of the laughing stocks in all his sports.

1003
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: And Tony Dungee got there, and he completely changed that

1004
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 3: place and built, you know, a historic defense with you know,

1005
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,280
Speaker 3: John Lynch and Derek Brooks and Warren Sapp and Ronda

1006
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: de Harper, ye and then that and that and and

1007
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 3: and and he did such an awesome job. But they've

1008
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 3: been knocking on the door for so long, and because

1009
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: they had that defense, the urgency was amped up. And

1010
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: then if you remember, at the end of the twenty

1011
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 3: one at the end of the one season, they started

1012
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: flirting with Bill Parcells and almost got him and then

1013
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: wound up trading for John Gruden. And you do wonder if,

1014
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 3: like for the same reason there was urgency in Tampa

1015
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 3: back then, because it was like, we're only going to

1016
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: have this defense for so long. If like eventually in

1017
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 3: Buffalo gets the point with Josh Allen, now he's turning

1018
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: thirty in May where it's like, all right, like, you know,

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 3: we really need to find a way to maximize what

1020
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: we have here to chase a championship, So that will

1021
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: be the sort of comparison. But I don't think, like,

1022
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 3: not to my knowledge anyway, any of those conversations have

1023
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: happened yet internally, all.

1024
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 2: Right, ab moment of true, moment of true there and

1025
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: now was the time has arrived. Albert Breer, senior NFL

1026
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: reporter at the MMQB and the Pride of Ohio State.

1027
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, at the end of Saturday's game

1028
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 2: in an arbor that the Ohio State Buck guys will

1029
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: have won that game by more than nine and a

1030
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: half points.

1031
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: It's down at nine and a half nowe people are

1032
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 3: setting it down.

1033
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: Oh, wasn't it twelve? I thought it was twelve twelve

1034
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: and a half.

1035
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: It was at one point then I think I don't know.

1036
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 3: I the last I heard it was ten and a half,

1037
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's under ten now, yikes. I think they will.

1038
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: You know, I picked them a cover last week and

1039
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: they did right without Carnell and without JJ.

1040
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah all right.

1041
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: So, like what the way I feel about the game

1042
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 3: right now is like a lot of people are going

1043
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 3: to be focused on our receivers and whether they play

1044
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: or not. I really like our defense with all the

1045
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: first round picks on it, and that coordinator going up

1046
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 3: against the young quarterback that I think could wind up

1047
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: being the key to the whole thing. And so like

1048
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 3: I I, you know, like I just I don't know

1049
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: how Michigan's going to score on on Ohio. Ohio State

1050
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: hasn't really been scored on all year, you know, So

1051
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 3: like its Michigan the team to break through that I

1052
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 3: don't think so. And again like this is I'm saying,

1053
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 3: I think I'm not like pounding my chest here because

1054
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: I've learned my lesson doing that. I do respect the

1055
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: rivalry more than some people on the other side do.

1056
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 2: Wow, there you go.

1057
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 3: But but I would say, like that to me is

1058
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: the key is like if this Patricia defense is keeping

1059
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: them to ten or thirteen or fourteen or seventeen points, Like,

1060
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how you keep the Ohio State offense

1061
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 3: under one.

1062
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: And also, you know, Matt Patrice has probably got a

1063
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: red ass going back to Michigan. He probably he's got

1064
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: a point to prove.

1065
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well there might be some things planned. I

1066
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 3: mean this will be interesting too. Yeah. I think that

1067
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: that group, that that Ohio State group, I will say this,

1068
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: that Ohio State defensive group loves Matt and I think

1069
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: they understand where where where this game is being played

1070
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: and what it might mean to Matt to be able

1071
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 3: to pull that off. And so yeah, I think there's

1072
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: that element of it too. I I I don't know,

1073
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 3: I was so confident last year and there was like

1074
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: because before that, like the three years before that, like

1075
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 3: Michigan had really good teams. I don't think they were

1076
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 3: the better team in every one of those three years,

1077
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: but like they had you know, however, it may have happened,

1078
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 3: got themselves up to our level for a temporary period

1079
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 3: of time. And uh this one, but last year was

1080
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: not last year was last year. Last year I would

1081
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: say changed Ryan Day in a way that I think

1082
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 3: is going to show up on set.

1083
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:43,479
Speaker 2: Nice.

1084
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that part of the place. What do you guys.

1085
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Think I would? I would lean in your direction. I

1086
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: just wanted to come down to the wire though, Like

1087
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Speaker 2: I wanted to come down to the wire if I

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Speaker 2: had to bet on Key State. But I don't have

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Speaker 2: I don't have a I don't have an interest either way.

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Speaker 2: I just want to see finished.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look last week last year, I was in

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Speaker 3: that parking lot. It was like five degrees. I flew

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Speaker 3: in the morning of I was like shot out of

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Speaker 3: a cannon, like you know, seven eight beers deep by

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Speaker 3: like ten thirty eight ms coming off the plane. And

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Speaker 3: I remember saying to my buddy Jillan, I was we

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Speaker 3: were in the parking lot and I was like, I

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Speaker 3: was like, I like everybody come by by tickases games

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Speaker 3: wanting to see a classic. I'm like, f Dad, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to see a classic. I want this. I

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Speaker 3: want this to be the worst blowout they've ever seen.

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Speaker 3: I want that stadium to be a party after the game.

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Speaker 3: And again, like I've learned some lessons. I don't care

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Speaker 3: if the wins by one or fifty. Just get it done.

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Speaker 2: Well, ab It's going to be fun. And we appreciate

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Speaker 2: you joining us. As always, we're up against it, but

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Speaker 2: the great Albert Breer here with this on The Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Let's do it again next week.

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Speaker 3: Thanks.

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Speaker 4: There he is.

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Speaker 2: It is the Dan Patrick Show here Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox coming up next year on FSO

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Speaker 2: in Trouble