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Speaker 1: And the studio. It is time to break it down
Speaker 1: because it's regular season these parks. I have a question
Speaker 1: for you, Kyle, I'm fired up. I have a question
Speaker 1: for you. What's that is there? An? Is there? Are
Speaker 1: there any other shows on this platform that break it
Speaker 1: down like we do? Now? Okay, I was just wondering
Speaker 1: the same way we do. No, definitely not that, whilst
Speaker 1: also engaging with the fans the way we do with
Speaker 1: the kind of aura that we deliver. Definitely with the
Speaker 1: Eye Candy, this is nobody. Nobody has Eye Canada we have.
Speaker 1: This is all aura, that's all.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to get into this. Do it because Isaia one,
Speaker 3: it's great to have you back. I haven't had you
Speaker 3: back since your back surgery.
Speaker 1: Bro, you're doing all right. It's these three weeks.
Speaker 3: It's been three weeks calling multiple preseason games, calling HBCU
Speaker 3: Classic games from Canton, Ohio for the NFL Network, flying
Speaker 3: from Texas to Cali, from Texas to Ohio to do
Speaker 3: NFL Network broadcast.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you're just hunky door. You haven't had
Speaker 1: a single lick of pain the whole way. Good thing
Speaker 1: you didn't have a major I don't know what I
Speaker 1: was thinking spine or anything.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole back surgery thing was crazy. It was
Speaker 1: something that was needed. Everybody's like, why'd you do it?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Because I had to do it at some point. It
Speaker 1: was either like do it after the season and be
Speaker 1: miserable the whole offseason, or do it during the season
Speaker 1: and be distracted. Well, you know by the work, you know.
Speaker 1: So I had to get it done. My whole spinal
Speaker 1: fusion was necessary because my spine was collapse. It was
Speaker 1: displaced all the things. So they had to pull my
Speaker 1: spine back in place, raise it up, put an insert
Speaker 1: in there, screw it in, went through the front by
Speaker 1: the way. Okay, they went through my stomach, okay, moved
Speaker 1: everything out the way, got to my spine, put the
Speaker 1: insert in, turned me over. Use the robot to put
Speaker 1: the screws in through my back as well. So I'm
Speaker 1: a half inch taller now, boys, really, how about that?
Speaker 1: Yeah that was the real surgery. We need some new
Speaker 1: combound messure. Yeah, yeah, we need comb They had me
Speaker 1: at sixty two and a half at the I'm officially
Speaker 1: six to three, So officially six three two fifty now
Speaker 1: that's that. No, So, no, the first week. The first
Speaker 1: week suck. Shout out to my wife Natalie, who literally
Speaker 1: held me down, picked me up, did all the things.
Speaker 1: I'll keep away from some of the stories that we
Speaker 1: have behind the scenes that she had to deal with,
Speaker 1: but she was awesome through that first week. That second
Speaker 1: week got a little bit better. Then I had to
Speaker 1: start traveling, and that was that being by yourself for
Speaker 1: almost week and a half. At least, pull the first
Speaker 1: class on those they take care of you. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the NFL, NFL network takes care of you know in
Speaker 1: that regardless.
Speaker 3: Of just make sure because coach in that scenario with
Speaker 3: not that's what I would have Isaiah.
Speaker 5: Stand back, we're talking about I'm not getting Ky the
Speaker 5: other one way or the other.
Speaker 1: He's in first class. So that was all good. And
Speaker 1: then you know, right before I was able to fly
Speaker 1: out of l A to go to Ohio, something around
Speaker 1: here happened. Yeah that you know, they did it right
Speaker 1: before the Friday show on Good Morning Football. So that
Speaker 1: was awesome being at the table having to address all
Speaker 1: that stuff because you know, everybody's like, Isaiah, how about
Speaker 1: them Cowboys? So what did they do? The whole Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons thing. Obviously, I know you guys already covered it,
Speaker 1: but that was that was what want you take you
Speaker 1: want my take on it? I, first of all, I
Speaker 1: did not believe that the Joneses would pull that move.
Speaker 1: I and there was nothing in me that would state
Speaker 1: that you have a generational player like that and you
Speaker 1: will actually make the move. Now, is it that team
Speaker 1: or is it the moving No, just to move in
Speaker 1: generals move to have it talent like that and to
Speaker 1: let him go, that takes some gusto. That takes some
Speaker 1: gusta regardless of whatever reasonings you may have, that still
Speaker 1: takes some cohonas in order to take.
Speaker 3: It's a stable Okay, speaking of that, it did if
Speaker 3: I was thinking about this maybe a day and a
Speaker 3: half ago. And at the end of that documentary, one
Speaker 3: of the final I think it was the final episode,
Speaker 3: there's a there's a clip that went viral where Jerry's
Speaker 3: talking to Ram's ownership and he said, oh, I just
Speaker 3: don't have the cohonas. I don't have the guts to
Speaker 3: make the trade that you guys did with Stafford and Golf,
Speaker 3: talking about the Ram Stafford Golf trade, and he's like,
Speaker 3: I don't have the cohonas to do that, and so
Speaker 3: that went viral. Of course, Cowboys, Twitter, Cowboys, everything picked
Speaker 3: it up, and then we see a move like this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know if there's a direct correlation.
Speaker 1: There may or may not be, but I truly believe
Speaker 1: that if you had any question gens as to the
Speaker 1: impact of Stephen Jones and Will McLay on mister Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: I think this probably was the most impactful, polarizing way
Speaker 1: to describe their influence on mister Jones. People forget they
Speaker 1: said unanimous. Yes, And the reason why I say that
Speaker 1: is because you look at you. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they samous. I don't believe that it was completely unanimous,
Speaker 1: but I do think that it was heavily weighted in
Speaker 1: the favor of what they opted to do. I'll take that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I believe that their influence in terms of especially
Speaker 1: when McClay and Stephen Jones really just take it. Not
Speaker 1: to say that Double J can't make his own decisions,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that to be able to say, hey,
Speaker 1: take the motion out of it. Let's take the motion
Speaker 1: out of it. Is take the fact that this dude
Speaker 1: is as an absolute beast of a player. Let's look
Speaker 1: at it strategically. Let's look at it with the mentality
Speaker 1: of we're trying to build this roster, and you can
Speaker 1: have a handful of very dominant players, where you can
Speaker 1: have a roster of really good players, right, and when
Speaker 1: we're really good across the board, it's really difficult to stop,
Speaker 1: right because if you have a handful of really good players,
Speaker 1: now we can gain plan that. Now we can focus
Speaker 1: on that player, now we can highlight that. But if
Speaker 1: everybody on your roster is making an impact, then it's like, dang.
Speaker 1: And when you as we get ready to talk about
Speaker 1: the egos, especially their defense, who's the one person that
Speaker 1: you circle on their defense that you're like, oh, you
Speaker 1: better watch out for this guy is really it's really
Speaker 1: I mean, there's one guy that does absolute beast right
Speaker 1: in terms of their d line, But you have to
Speaker 1: respect everybody, everybody like the group, So that harder is
Speaker 1: the headline. Jalen Caller is a headliner, but like, you
Speaker 1: can't just focus on Jaylen Carter because somebody else will
Speaker 1: kill you too. So that's the approach that I feel
Speaker 1: like Dallas is really getting to and I think that
Speaker 1: they're coming to that maturity, right. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say that in a demoralizing way, right, but like there,
Speaker 1: I think they've matured over this last year in regards
Speaker 1: to understanding what it takes to put together a full team.
Speaker 1: So I want to give kudos to the front office
Speaker 1: for making for being willing to make the move with
Speaker 1: the understanding that it's going to be painful. But if
Speaker 1: you turn around and do what you can do with
Speaker 1: that space, with the with those draft picks, with the
Speaker 1: players that you acquired, with the player you acquired, then
Speaker 1: you could actually have a much better team. Quick question
Speaker 1: for you, because we've all all answered these questions, but
Speaker 1: the fans of the Best Cowboys podcast on Earth, I
Speaker 1: want to hear your take on this. How are you
Speaker 1: on the compensation package? I think they could have gotten more.
Speaker 1: There would go there, we could have gone. That's a
Speaker 1: complete and the reason why is because understanding who you're
Speaker 1: trading with when you receive those first round pixels are
Speaker 1: low first round picks, So that's why I believe that
Speaker 1: you could have gotten more.
Speaker 3: I think you needed another player, one another starter, one
Speaker 3: more starter, and I think I would have.
Speaker 1: Been okay, And I don't think they would have given
Speaker 1: that up Green Bay. I don't think they would have
Speaker 1: done that. And that's fair. Well then yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: next if it was, Yeah, I think there's a handful
Speaker 1: of teams that I probably would have called in regards
Speaker 1: to that. I think one of those to address the
Speaker 1: areas of your concern. Baltimore probably would have been high
Speaker 1: on my list in terms of not having to deal
Speaker 1: with them in your in your in your conference, and
Speaker 1: them having some depth at the defensive line position. That
Speaker 1: would have also been late first round. No, no, for sure,
Speaker 1: it would have been late first round. Or but in
Speaker 1: terms of teams that have additional guys to where it
Speaker 1: can utilize, yes, in terms of the positional need that
Speaker 1: you have strengthen an exact opponent, Yeah, but I do Again,
Speaker 1: I everybody asked them, what do you think about this?
Speaker 1: If they use the draft picks, if they use the
Speaker 1: salary cap space, if they use additional money, then it's all.
Speaker 1: Then then the Cowboys as an organization could be looked
Speaker 1: at and you can say, good job on the trail.
Speaker 1: And they did that right the first and first day.
Speaker 1: First step they did was go out there, let's secure
Speaker 1: Durn Bland, and I would imagine the next step is
Speaker 1: going to be Tyler Smith, right, and then after that
Speaker 1: then you could use those draft picks and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we could either use these draft picks to go acquire
Speaker 1: somebody else as an impact player, because it's hard for
Speaker 1: organization to turn down and offer for a first round pick,
Speaker 1: even if it's a low first round pick. If you
Speaker 1: you have a starter on your team, maybe they were
Speaker 1: a former All Pro bowler, and you say, hey, I
Speaker 1: want that guy, I'll give your first round pick. Almost
Speaker 1: every gym is going to be like what you say,
Speaker 1: not yet? Yeah they heard first, Yeah, they heir first
Speaker 1: round picks.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: So they're all regardless, regardless of where it's at. Right.
Speaker 1: So I believe especially teams that need to get some
Speaker 1: depth and that have some salary cap issues, right, but
Speaker 1: they want to add some more impact players. So I
Speaker 1: think that they are in a really good position. I
Speaker 1: am intrigued and I'm proud of what they've already done,
Speaker 1: but I'm intrigued as to what else they're going to
Speaker 1: do because there are some more holes that they need
Speaker 1: to fill.
Speaker 3: This is the whole compensation package debate, and it can
Speaker 3: be ended by one thing, and that's hitting on whatever
Speaker 3: they do next. And that's what Patrick said last week,
Speaker 3: That's what Josh echoed last week. We talked about this
Speaker 3: at nauseum. So I don't want to harp on Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons as much anymore because Eagles got your thoughts.
Speaker 1: But they have hit the first domino. Deron blam. That
Speaker 1: four year deal for your extension awesome for him. I
Speaker 1: love it for Doran.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think all of us across the board
Speaker 3: have gotten to know Doron since he was drafted a
Speaker 3: couple of years back, and he's one of the salt
Speaker 3: of the earth guys in that locker room. Just an
Speaker 3: incredible player, super deserving what he's done to work to
Speaker 3: get to this point, to overcome adversity to be who
Speaker 3: he is now.
Speaker 1: I love this for him, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: you can be critical of this move. It's a great deal.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get critical hits great. It's
Speaker 1: a great deal.
Speaker 5: And if you consider, like how much he's guaranteed thirty
Speaker 5: six point three you have a potential out in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty seven. It's which would essentially be a thirty six
Speaker 5: point three million dollars deal. With thirteen million a dead cap,
Speaker 5: something that you could definitely get over. But you also
Speaker 5: consider the how many other fifth round picks have been
Speaker 5: extended like this, you know, like you have to go
Speaker 5: back to twenty twenty when you look at George Kittle,
Speaker 5: who has signed a five year extension seventy five million
Speaker 5: dollars in twenty twenty, and then the most recent example
Speaker 5: was Diammador Leonore in last year, five year extension ninety
Speaker 5: two million dollars.
Speaker 1: He one of the few. Yeah, the next fifth round picks, Williams.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's probably the next fifth round pick that
Speaker 3: gets extended like that, and he's running back, so whatever
Speaker 3: that number is gonna look.
Speaker 5: Like, Yeah, exactly. The impressive for a fifth rounder.
Speaker 3: Though, yeahs amazing and I love the proactiveness We've always
Speaker 3: if you're one of the people that are upset with
Speaker 3: the Micah trade Andrew upset with Deron Bland, you can
Speaker 3: maybe tie those two things together because they're kind of
Speaker 3: tied together because of the money that you left over. However,
Speaker 3: if you're one of these people that are upset with
Speaker 3: how the Micah situation began and the late start to
Speaker 3: the Mica situation and then you're mad about Deron Bland.
Speaker 1: Stop it, because this is this is avoiding that. I
Speaker 1: feel like, do you guys get the same sentiment that
Speaker 1: Dallas fans in general were substantially more upset about the
Speaker 1: Luca trade than they worry about Micah. Absolutely, it shouldn't
Speaker 1: hunt one. Yeah, Luca's trade was far more jarring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's far more.
Speaker 5: And it's surprising too, because you've seen the sort of
Speaker 5: writing on the wall with Micah divorce that has been
Speaker 5: kind of a buzzword they've used over the last few weeks.
Speaker 5: I mean, Good Morning Football used it. You know, it's
Speaker 5: it's something that we were sort of alluding to this
Speaker 5: whole time. Granted, it was still very surprising. Michael was
Speaker 5: at it.
Speaker 1: What was Luca?
Speaker 3: It was a player in two first right now, it
Speaker 3: was a twenty twenty nine first and two players and
Speaker 3: they also sent Max.
Speaker 1: But it was also to Josh's point, it was the
Speaker 1: compensation is not even club, not even, But it was
Speaker 1: also the shock value out of nowhere in the middle
Speaker 1: of the night sports wise. For sports historians, especially NFL historians,
Speaker 1: you will recognize this this comp I equate the Luca
Speaker 1: trade to the Coats in the Mayflower Trucks, parting Baltimore
Speaker 1: in what it felt like the middle of the night
Speaker 1: for that franchise to leave the city. I mean for
Speaker 1: it to be what was like eleven eleven thirty pm
Speaker 1: Central time, and all of a sudden, a meteor hits
Speaker 1: the earth and Luca is traded, just springing back a
Speaker 1: bunch of emotions, and then and then on top of that,
Speaker 1: you look at the compensation and you say, and that's it. Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is true.
Speaker 3: When when my wife told me, because we went to
Speaker 3: sleep early that night, we have the kids, you know,
Speaker 3: like whatever. So I woke up the next day and
Speaker 3: my wife, my wife was like, they traded Luca.
Speaker 1: And I was like, stop it, no they did. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And I was she was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's real, it's everywhere. I was like, well, then what
Speaker 1: did we get? Did we get seven first round picks?
Speaker 3: Because first round picks in the NBA are not even
Speaker 3: close to the equivalent of first round picks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They're completely weighed differently.
Speaker 3: And even with that, the Cowboys got more for Michael
Speaker 3: Parsons than the then the MAVs got for Luca. And
Speaker 3: that was before the lottery and that whole thing, and
Speaker 3: of course Cooper flag whatever. This is not the same
Speaker 3: and one is not the same. Let's move on to
Speaker 3: the fact that Doron Bland is now a cowboy. He's
Speaker 3: locked up over your corners.
Speaker 1: Expected to be available in week one?
Speaker 7: You know who else might be expected to be Oh yeah,
Speaker 7: let's talk about it, fellas there's an injury or another
Speaker 7: first team all no less Yeah, and Trayvon Diggs, dolly
Speaker 7: kind of important, kind of important.
Speaker 1: He was a full participant in yesterday's practice. Was that
Speaker 1: where the cow full full full, not limited, not limited
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent full full? So why he's playing
Speaker 1: like completely? We asked him, We asked him about in
Speaker 1: the locker room, and he did say, in his words,
Speaker 1: he's a seventy five eighty percent. Basically what that is
Speaker 1: is he doesn't want to step over the training staff.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to step over the medical staff. Not
Speaker 1: showing the cards, right, he still has to be cleared.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you say seventy five percent, you just
Speaker 1: showed did you say he showed respect to the training staff?
Speaker 1: He did? Whoa he did? You're talking about Trayvon Diggs? Yeah? Absolutely, wow,
Speaker 1: Which is in the first time felt because last week
Speaker 1: I believe he you know, he showed full respect to
Speaker 1: Britt Brown and jimmar and the trending staff. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, right, narratives funny how that works. So so yeah,
Speaker 1: or before after Michael Drake, this was before that was
Speaker 1: before he said my team clock it. So Trevon Diggs
Speaker 1: full participant, says seventy five to eighty percent chance he
Speaker 1: plays against the Eagles. I view it as barn to
Speaker 1: set back over the next day or so. I think
Speaker 1: Trayvon Diggs is on the field. Question is is he
Speaker 1: on a pitch count?
Speaker 8: Is he not?
Speaker 1: But I think he takes my field. That would be
Speaker 1: absolutely huge for the Dallas Cowboys. What did we talk
Speaker 1: about timing? Again, which position was in arguably the most
Speaker 1: dire straits? It was cornerback. You didn't know if Trayvon
Speaker 1: would be ready. You didn't know, you know what where
Speaker 1: they would play, deron, so forth and so on. So
Speaker 1: what you do you make sure Dron's locked in, he's
Speaker 1: fully healthy, unlike last year he had the fractured foot
Speaker 1: that came out of nowhere. He's going to be on
Speaker 1: the field. Treyvon Diggs well ahead of schedule. Looks like
Speaker 1: he's going to be on the field. Great kyer elam
Speaker 1: coming off of a great training camp. So your top
Speaker 1: three guys are looking real crisp right now. Crisp again.
Speaker 5: Treyvon Diggs hasn't played in a while, and no bigger
Speaker 5: litmus test than we can one against arguably the best
Speaker 5: of the best.
Speaker 1: Surf here it comes in and then flipping to the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. We had another full participant
Speaker 1: that is tracking a little bit ahead of schedule, Tyler
Speaker 1: guiding your starting left tackle. I like that guy as
Speaker 1: it stands, it's trending toward taking the field against the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, and I love what Nate Thomas has shown.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that we talk about pitchcuns. I
Speaker 1: don't know that Tyler Goyton will be fully unleashed, but
Speaker 1: he is taking full participation in team drill, so it
Speaker 1: looks like he could be on the field as well,
Speaker 1: and it could be a combo of he and Nate
Speaker 1: Thomas out there trying to trying to stop the good news. Well,
Speaker 1: the good news is is when it comes to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: as we foreshadow, the Eagles, when it comes to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they're not the Giants when it comes to the edge rushers.
Speaker 1: They're not some of the better edge and edge rush
Speaker 1: team as far as depth is concerned. Right right, you
Speaker 1: don't point at the Eagles, And Isaiah makes a good point.
Speaker 1: There are guys that you're like, Okay, Jalen Carter is
Speaker 1: the headliner, and there's like a Zach Bond and okay,
Speaker 1: those guys can impact games. But at the edge, there's
Speaker 1: no one that you look at and say, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that dude, right like you will on the interior. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to be an easy goal
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys on the edges at all. What I'm
Speaker 1: saying is this at the edges may not be as
Speaker 1: as difficult a game as if you go against it.
Speaker 1: Just week one from last year exactly at that position.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so you know we'll see Tyler got in
Speaker 1: full participant, Treyvon Diggs full participant, Cowboys training in the
Speaker 1: right direction healthwise. Now, unfortunately, Perryon Winfrey did mispractice with
Speaker 1: some back tightness, which now does matter however you feel
Speaker 1: about the Michael trade, good, bad, or indifferent. This Kenny
Speaker 1: Clark addition might have just been became extremely fortuitous.
Speaker 3: You're saying, Okay, it's like, wait a second, look at
Speaker 3: let's not hold no death standpoint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So if Perryon Winfrey is not on the field,
Speaker 1: and you already have questions about what Mozzie Smith can
Speaker 1: or cannot be, if Kenny Clark is not in the
Speaker 1: building and Perryon Winfrey is not on the field, do
Speaker 1: I have to finish this comment? Like how much more
Speaker 1: concerning could that be? So what I'm saying is it
Speaker 1: was alright. I'm just saying the timing of because we
Speaker 1: talked about Kenny Clark does upgrade the defense as absolutely
Speaker 1: so he went from then That's what I'm saying. Fine,
Speaker 1: but if he's not here and perry On Winfrey is
Speaker 1: unable to go, is my point? Now you go from
Speaker 1: bad to you know, holy sugar, honey beam. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to finish the statement because I learn that. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm going a little QB vision. We are so done
Speaker 1: your studying? Is that a real question?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So bad? All right?
Speaker 3: When we come back here on talking Cowboys, it's time
Speaker 3: to preview the Cowboys offense up against that Philadelphia Eagles defense.
Speaker 1: I hate the Eagles. Isaiah breaks it down when we
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Speaker 5: that are the visual at home, but to officially you
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Speaker 3: Guys.
Speaker 1: Well we're back week one. No, really excited about this matchup,
Speaker 1: you guys. Obviously the Philadelphia Eagles, as much as you
Speaker 1: might despise them, you got to put some respect on
Speaker 1: their name. No, they are the defending champions. These guys
Speaker 1: return argus arguably the best defense from last year. As
Speaker 1: a Dallas Cowboys now approach them. They're not the same
Speaker 1: defense and Dallas do not have the same offense. So
Speaker 1: we can look at last year's film all we want to.
Speaker 1: The reality is last year Dak Prescott did not play
Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Egos. He did not at all. The
Speaker 1: reality is last year they had a dude in the
Speaker 1: middle of named Milton Williams. He's no longer there, former
Speaker 1: LA Tech Bulldog. So they have some pieces. They don't
Speaker 1: have big play Slagh who wasn't necessarily a big play
Speaker 1: guy nomore. They don't have a handful of guys. However,
Speaker 1: this is Johnson Eagles team returns, and those guys that
Speaker 1: you mentioned are some of the three of the five
Speaker 1: guys that are not returning. For these guys as starters,
Speaker 1: they had seventeen returners of twenty two. When I say
Speaker 1: that they let's get to what they want to do. Okay,
Speaker 1: what they want to do and what they have shown
Speaker 1: against you in the past is these guys want to
Speaker 1: be a single high team. They will show two high safeties.
Speaker 1: And the reason why this is important, listeners, is because
Speaker 1: that is the first thing that the quarterback identifies when
Speaker 1: he comes to the line of scrimmage. Where are the safeties?
Speaker 1: So if I find my safeties, those guys are back there,
Speaker 1: they look like they're playing too high. All right, Now,
Speaker 1: I work my way down towards the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: When a line of scrimmage, you guys heard it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys listen to the our dot
Speaker 1: com Dallas Cowboys dot Com a lot of great interviews,
Speaker 1: but Dak Prescott is on record saying that they don't
Speaker 1: show a lot, they don't do a lot, and that's
Speaker 1: very true. These guys play are very simplistic vig fangio
Speaker 1: fungo defense. However, they are very selective and effective at
Speaker 1: what they do. The big fellas upfront allow for them
Speaker 1: to play simplistic. They allow for them to play fast.
Speaker 1: And when I say the big fellas, let's talk about
Speaker 1: it Jalen Carter ninety eight, you gotta find him. You
Speaker 1: gotta know ezactly where he's at, and you better buckle
Speaker 1: up your bootstraps and tighten up your belt because he
Speaker 1: is coming downhill. He's a big force who not only
Speaker 1: can stuff the a gaps, but he also can pass rush.
Speaker 1: He's a problem. He is the problem on the defense
Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles. There's another dude who necessarily hasn't
Speaker 1: played up to the level. I feel he's capable of
Speaker 1: playing that. But he's a house in Jordan Davis that's
Speaker 1: gonna be playing right next to him. Those two big
Speaker 1: fellas in the middle are huge. They allow for their
Speaker 1: linebackers to run and hit, and their linebackers are active.
Speaker 1: Their linebackers are very smart, and their linebackers are very
Speaker 1: physical Zach Bond is a problem. Nolan Smith, who actually
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get to know a little bit
Speaker 1: this offseason by being on GMFB. He might be the
Speaker 1: one of the most passionate football players that I've met.
Speaker 1: Go dogs, I wasn't going to. I wasn't going to.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 1: The only other, only other player that has given me
Speaker 1: that feeling in their presence is Demo. Oh cool, likes
Speaker 1: he's like that, like like super passionate, wants to learn
Speaker 1: this one of our guys, Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: But those guys and the reason why I say you
Speaker 1: have to highlight those two guys. You highlight those two
Speaker 1: linebackers and then you have to obviously go straight to
Speaker 1: Cooper Degen. Cooper Degen from to me is like another
Speaker 1: even though he's a cover nickel and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: he likes to insert himself into the box along with
Speaker 1: read blanker ship as well. Huh he has hands too.
Speaker 1: But those guys, the reason why I bring those guys
Speaker 1: up is because that front line doesn't allow your offensive
Speaker 1: line to get past them. Right. So if you're blocking
Speaker 1: these guys up front, you have five offensive linemen, but
Speaker 1: two of those guys are taking up your middle three. Now,
Speaker 1: the defensive ends, your tackles are responsible for those guys.
Speaker 1: Last time I checked, that's five on four. And if
Speaker 1: it's five on four, then who can get up to
Speaker 1: those three guys at the second level. Nobody. That's when
Speaker 1: it's a problem. Nolan Smith is fast and he is decisive.
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, we know what he's able to do. He's
Speaker 1: able to force turnovers by being physical. He's a smart,
Speaker 1: intellectual guy. So that front seven presents a problem. There
Speaker 1: where I think that they are exposed now in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five is in their secondary. Because these guys want
Speaker 1: to be a single high team. They'll show too high,
Speaker 1: but then they'll rotate their safety down into the box
Speaker 1: for run support because they want to take away that
Speaker 1: element of your game. They want to get you passing
Speaker 1: the ball. They can no longer do that. That's our
Speaker 1: assumption before we see our non Villanella version of this offense.
Speaker 1: The assumption is that they have to now make some
Speaker 1: business decisions with their secondary. The offensive line has to
Speaker 1: deal with those guys up front. That's your own problem, okay,
Speaker 1: and you got to figure out how to establish some
Speaker 1: kind of run game and get up to the second
Speaker 1: level combo blocks all that thing. You have to establish
Speaker 1: a run game. If you are able to establish a
Speaker 1: run game, now can they roll Can they truly roll
Speaker 1: that safety into the box and do what they want
Speaker 1: to do with a vic Fangil defense. Whenever he blitzes,
Speaker 1: he blitzes off the edge. It is not really Oh
Speaker 1: that's really scary. You know where it's coming from, the
Speaker 1: reason why that's a problem for them potentially is because
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is back. He can identify what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson is back, and you have to have somebody
Speaker 1: who can cover him. And if you're either going to
Speaker 1: cover him with a safety or you're going to cover
Speaker 1: him with one of those high intellectual linebackers that we
Speaker 1: talked about, do you really want to use one of
Speaker 1: those linebackers to stick Jake Ferguson or do you want
Speaker 1: those guys in the box coming downhill? I've read those
Speaker 1: guys be in the box, okay, So if those guys
Speaker 1: are in the box, then who's responsible for Jake Ferguson? Right?
Speaker 1: And if you want to play single high and have
Speaker 1: a safety playing Jake Ferguson, now you are now forcing
Speaker 1: a position. Last time I checked to have one guy
Speaker 1: sticking CD Lamb and one guy sticking George Pickens. Yep,
Speaker 1: business decisions, business decisions. If you are able to keep
Speaker 1: them honest, keep your receivers out there. You line up
Speaker 1: CD Lamb on one side, you line up George Pickens
Speaker 1: on the other side, You line up Jake ferguson right.
Speaker 1: And these guys want to stay too high. You have
Speaker 1: to run the ball absolutely like it is beyond important
Speaker 1: that Dallas finds a way to have enough somewhat effective run.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you got to rush for one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five hundred. You have to be able
Speaker 1: to get three yards a pop.
Speaker 5: What is a tall task When you're saying that the
Speaker 5: defensive line is always pushing down, getting past that first
Speaker 5: level is going to be tough to begin with. But
Speaker 5: I think you need to get your guys out in
Speaker 5: open space, yes, which I think is what when you
Speaker 5: can lean on a Cavanti turpin out in space.
Speaker 1: I know he's a receiver.
Speaker 5: Now they're putting more of an emphasis on him as
Speaker 5: your third guy, but get him out in space.
Speaker 1: If you can get if you can make them cover, Yeah,
Speaker 1: once you're in eleven personnel, right, and whether that's Jalen
Speaker 1: Tolbert or whether that's Cavante Turpin. Let's say, for instance,
Speaker 1: you put Cavante Turpin out there as your slot receiver.
Speaker 1: Now you're in a position to get these guys again,
Speaker 1: it goes back to the run. If you can establish
Speaker 1: a run, now you can do your play action. And
Speaker 1: if you can do your play action now Jalen Carter
Speaker 1: right now, big Baby Davis, all those guys have to
Speaker 1: do what they have to run sidelined to sideline. That's
Speaker 1: not what they want to do. They don't want to
Speaker 1: go sideline to sideline. They want to go forward. And
Speaker 1: if you can get these guys going with a run scheme,
Speaker 1: going linearly right towards the sideline, and now they have
Speaker 1: to respect that. And now all of a sudd Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott boots out. Now you have Jakes Ferguson in the flats,
Speaker 1: you have Cavante Turpin at the second level. You have
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb or George Pickens, two of the best deep
Speaker 1: ball threat, high contested catch guys in the league, going
Speaker 1: out there on deep posts and deep goal routes. These
Speaker 1: guys safeties have to give, they have to respect that.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of space in the middle for
Speaker 1: Ferg and Turp or Ferg and Tolbert to work. That's
Speaker 1: what you want to get to. That's how you can
Speaker 1: hurt these guys. But it all starts with your ability
Speaker 1: to run for three or four yards of pop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you can do that and successfully is ideal.
Speaker 1: Obviously you want to run successfully successfully, but if you
Speaker 1: can at least establish the thread of it, force them
Speaker 1: to respect him consistency. Consistency then, and we talked about
Speaker 1: this with Dak Prescott in the locker room. It was
Speaker 1: an off the cuff, off the record conversation, but Dak
Speaker 1: was basically saying the same thing. He was like, man,
Speaker 1: you would love to see Dak hitting CD and pickings
Speaker 1: on every play. He was like, but we got to
Speaker 1: establish this run so that we can play off guess
Speaker 1: what the play action and go from there. Because if
Speaker 1: you can play off of the play action, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now, there's a reason that Nick Fangio
Speaker 1: hasn't named his starting defensive backs just yet. Yep, you
Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter, sir ye Cooper Degenie and good
Speaker 1: luck buddy, who else? Right, QUINNYA. Mitchell, He's not. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the stripes, the stripes on the wall. He
Speaker 1: doesn't have the skins on the wall. Okay, and he
Speaker 1: has some coverage issues. And I'm gonna tell you say,
Speaker 1: go dogs. Okay. For as much as we know what
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is and Jordan Davis can be and Nolan
Speaker 1: Smith can be. I said this before the draft, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to stand here and say it again. Ringo
Speaker 1: is toast, absolute toast. He doesn't stand a chance. However,
Speaker 1: there's a chance that he's going to be one of
Speaker 1: the starting boundary corners when the Cowboys take the field.
Speaker 1: I'm taking CD and or George Pickens against most cornerbacks
Speaker 1: most of the time, against Mitchell and Ringo. If you
Speaker 1: establish this run holy and established. And I know people
Speaker 1: listen when I say established. I can't speak for anybody
Speaker 1: else when I say established the rent. I need three yards.
Speaker 1: I need like most people are gonna say I need
Speaker 1: five or six. No, no, no, no, let's be realistic.
Speaker 1: If I can get three yards on first down, if
Speaker 1: I can get three yards on second down, third and four,
Speaker 1: I'll take third and four all day. Long with the
Speaker 1: weapons that I have at the receiver and tight in
Speaker 1: position third and four is not bad. It's not because
Speaker 1: it still gives you several options. You everything.
Speaker 5: You just can't get behind the line on first you
Speaker 5: cannot and get yourself in second and long situations. That's
Speaker 5: just time and time again. What we were faced with
Speaker 5: with the Mike McCarthy era and now this offense, what
Speaker 5: it has going for it is the fact that it's
Speaker 5: not like that. It can be disguised in other ways.
Speaker 5: What did Breton Choannenhimmer say in is very first press
Speaker 5: press conference, It's like, we can do that, we can
Speaker 5: add motion, we can hide things. The biggest thing that
Speaker 5: the Cowboys have going for them is the freaking the
Speaker 5: glasses with the nose on it.
Speaker 1: They're disguised, right They have the what do you got
Speaker 1: going on over here?
Speaker 4: About? Like they can do that all day. That's why
Speaker 4: they've been vanilla this whole preseason. It's because of this
Speaker 4: game right here. I hope so, and I hope that's
Speaker 4: the plan. I hope that's the master plan because we
Speaker 4: kind of felt that way about McCarthy in his first year.
Speaker 1: That first game was rough. Good difference, being though to
Speaker 1: your point, tell the difference being the league had plenty
Speaker 1: of years of film on McCarthy as a play caller.
Speaker 1: How much film do they have on Schottenheimer as a
Speaker 1: play caller. Not I'm not say not much. But to
Speaker 1: that point, they have that Jackson, they don't have that
Speaker 1: with this. You're right, You're right. So my point, there's
Speaker 1: Dak curks not a lot of data that that cook.
Speaker 1: But before you let that cook establish the run, you
Speaker 1: have established the run. Because Schottenheimer did say one of
Speaker 1: his first press conferences as head coach, he said, kind
Speaker 1: of tongue in cheek, Unfortunately he let Russ cook a
Speaker 1: little bit more than he would have liked because he
Speaker 1: kind of bought into the hole the fandom want let
Speaker 1: Ross cook in that whole mantra, and he kind of
Speaker 1: let Russ do a little bit more than I think
Speaker 1: he's learned from that and he understands that, hey, setting
Speaker 1: up the run, established in the run will free up everything.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah has said it time and time again on
Speaker 1: this panel the Best Cowboys Podcast on Earth, it I
Speaker 1: mentioned that, Yeah, I Dak Prescott plays the best when
Speaker 1: he's playing off of play action.
Speaker 3: There I got a couple of stats for you here.
Speaker 3: This is just cold hard stats, like, so this is
Speaker 3: factuald So if you want to disagree with it, then
Speaker 3: go ahead, but it's factual. Dak Prescott is four and
Speaker 3: one versus the Eagles since twenty twenty one, effectual two
Speaker 3: and one when Philly plays Jalen Hurts. So you can't
Speaker 3: even throw that out there that he hasn't played Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: He's won two of the three games. Only starting quarterback
Speaker 3: with multiple wins versus the Eagles since that twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one season.
Speaker 1: The only one you want to.
Speaker 3: Know his stats in those games one with it four
Speaker 3: and one record, Like we said, tasty completion percentage seventy
Speaker 3: delightful passing yards per game, three oh five passing touchdown
Speaker 3: to interception ratio.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets interesting. Sixteen to one oh
Speaker 1: passer seven and a half.
Speaker 3: What if we said all off season about this weaponry
Speaker 3: around Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Man, it's the what the.
Speaker 3: It's been in quite some time, if not ever ever,
Speaker 3: maybe ever maybe ever still yet to be seen. And
Speaker 3: that's not factual yet, but we'll get on paper. It'll
Speaker 3: get there on paper. I don't have any concerns about
Speaker 3: the offense. I think the offense will be just fine.
Speaker 3: Will the running game is a little bit of a concern,
Speaker 3: and I'd.
Speaker 1: Say, you haven't seen Vane Williams. I've been concerned on
Speaker 1: that all year. I'm not concerned the passing game.
Speaker 3: I'm fine because but I think the passing games will
Speaker 3: open up the run game. It's kind of vice versa
Speaker 3: than what we've always thought.
Speaker 5: But I think in the chemistry the offensive line, you
Speaker 5: haven't necessarily seen that yet.
Speaker 1: At full force.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some learning curve, absolutely, but I'm not
Speaker 3: totally worried about the offense. However, No, yeah, when we
Speaker 3: come back, Yeah, I am a little worried about the defense.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it when we come back with more
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Speaker 3: Kyle Yeomans. Cowboys Defense versus Philadelphia, and then we've got
Speaker 3: our pick them just for this game to day. We'll
Speaker 3: pick the rest of the games on Friday when we
Speaker 3: come back. But what position group will be challenged the
Speaker 3: most by this Philadelphia offense?
Speaker 1: Because they can win in a number of different, number
Speaker 1: of different ways. Answer, just them, all of them, all
Speaker 1: of them think about it. I mean they, I mean
Speaker 1: it goes without saying Sakwon Barkley can do Saquon Barkley
Speaker 1: things in that offensive line. See if Landon Dickerson, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, injury update, Landar Dickerson did not practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: so we'll see if he takes the field. He was
Speaker 1: kind of a similar timeline of GUEI yes, I remember
Speaker 1: correctly where they fought, almost quite literally, they thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be a season ender.
Speaker 3: He gets carted off during an open practice at Lincoln Financial.
Speaker 3: People are saying it's the end of his season, and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden it comes back.
Speaker 1: It's like four to five weeks. Yes, there's a chance
Speaker 1: he misses the game, but I mean Sakwon Barkley is
Speaker 1: going to do his thing with or without Landon Dickerson. Obviously,
Speaker 1: without Landon Dickerson they take a slight step back, but
Speaker 1: offensive line still one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: And then aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Dallas Goddard. Yeah, those
Speaker 1: guys are kind of good at what they do.
Speaker 5: The secondary is a big question mark for me. I mean,
Speaker 5: if you're looking at Trayvon Diggs, who hasn't necessarily played
Speaker 5: in a while coming back from injury, and you look
Speaker 5: at dron Bland, who had a bad offseason, he got
Speaker 5: his contractstention, so I mean he's he had a down year,
Speaker 5: let's say.
Speaker 1: I mean he lost almost half the season exactly.
Speaker 5: And then you're looking at it guy like kyer Elam
Speaker 5: who has been, for me, like the best defensive player
Speaker 5: you've had since OTAs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just amazing. I don't see who could argue that
Speaker 1: he needs to be that dude on Thursdays. He needs
Speaker 1: to be that dude I put that. We've seen I
Speaker 1: pretty yer above Maris.
Speaker 5: But speaking of Mares, is he going to spy Jordan
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts all game?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Are we going to have a spy for Jalen Hurt?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: I know in Isaiah in the past you've said you
Speaker 3: don't want to spy Jalen Hurts because they can hurt
Speaker 3: you in different ways.
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, last year, if you go back to the
Speaker 1: first game of last year, Dallas actually did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job up front of kind of keeping him contained
Speaker 1: for the most part, but then he got out right
Speaker 1: when when he got out of the pocket, if he
Speaker 1: was able to escape because the Marvin Overstaan was on
Speaker 1: his tail in that game, once he got out, there
Speaker 1: was nobody responsible for him. So like his his ability
Speaker 1: to extend drives with his legs and getting out the pocket,
Speaker 1: like that killed Dallas in that first game. It really did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm not a big fan of using
Speaker 1: somebody to spying because they have so many other weapons.
Speaker 1: Whenever you spy, you're taking that person out away from
Speaker 1: a coverage. But at the same time, if he's able
Speaker 1: to escape the pocket some way, if you're not able
Speaker 1: to collapse that pocket and not allow him out, if
Speaker 1: he does get out, then he'll hurt you. But I
Speaker 1: will say I do think Marris is going to impact
Speaker 1: this game in a major way. I think the linebackers
Speaker 1: are really going to be featured heavily in the outcome
Speaker 1: of this game as far as Cowboys linebackers are concerned.
Speaker 1: Because Cowboys are still trying to figure out the defensive interior.
Speaker 1: They need to figure out what the post Micah era
Speaker 1: looks like as far as rotation on the ends. So
Speaker 1: it looks like Dante's going to get the start. Sam
Speaker 1: Williams going to get the start opposite Dante Williams, and
Speaker 1: then of course you have Esroko and Kneeling. Those young
Speaker 1: guys will come in and hopefully they can those that
Speaker 1: four pack, which is a mix of proven ability in
Speaker 1: Dante and very high ceilings and the three young guys
Speaker 1: I just talked about. I'm calm fitting in those guys
Speaker 1: and they can kind of get off the ends. But
Speaker 1: that defensive tackle position is Kenny Clark going to hit
Speaker 1: the ground immediately for the Cowboys. I'm confident OsO Diggi
Speaker 1: Zula and I love what Solomon Thomas has been in
Speaker 1: training camp. Looks like he under my Matt Eberflus, looks
Speaker 1: like he's ready to cook. But that nose tackle position
Speaker 1: has me a little bit nervous until I see what
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark looks like in the mix. So that means
Speaker 1: the linebackers are going to play a huge part. Marist
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna eat well. Kenneth Murray will see
Speaker 1: what Jack Sambourne can do. And Damone Clark. Don't don't
Speaker 1: go sleeping on Damon. He has He's coming off the
Speaker 1: best offseason of his career.
Speaker 5: One of those things that, at least defensive wise, that
Speaker 5: concerns me is Sam Williams starting at edge. To me,
Speaker 5: I mean, it's been a while since we've seen Sam
Speaker 5: Williams play, and when he did, he was getting a
Speaker 5: lot of flags. It was very undisciplined for He talked
Speaker 5: about it. He talked about it yesterday, and you hope
Speaker 5: that the maturing process has begun and you know it's
Speaker 5: set here with him now. I'm concerned that something like
Speaker 5: that might creep up. I'm concerned it might not be
Speaker 5: a clean game. I'm concerned of the flags that have
Speaker 5: sort of alienated the Dallas Cowboys amongst other teams in
Speaker 5: the NFL over the past few seasons. I mean, for
Speaker 5: as long as I've been watching him, the flags have
Speaker 5: been an issue. So it's concerning there. The start for
Speaker 5: him is huge. I hope he's able to capitalize and
Speaker 5: keep that spot.
Speaker 1: I think that really quickly. On the penalty point, I
Speaker 1: find it refreshing that Sam, when I was speaking to
Speaker 1: him yesterday in the locker room, that he proactively mentioned
Speaker 1: penalties on himself. So I asked him, I said, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, it's been eighteen plus months since you've taken
Speaker 1: the field. How hungry just to describe your hungry. How
Speaker 1: hungry are you? He said? Very? But I'm being patient
Speaker 1: because if I allow myself to get too hungry or
Speaker 1: to get too anxious about it his words, he said,
Speaker 1: that's when Sam starts getting penalties. He's very self aware now,
Speaker 1: more so than he's ever been in that capacity. So
Speaker 1: I would like to see it translate into lack of flags.
Speaker 1: But the first step is to be aware, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like he's very aware of I'm concerning about the
Speaker 1: D line as a whole. As a whole, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm there too. I'm not confident in the I think
Speaker 1: you need one more piece in the interior defensive line.
Speaker 1: You he made a huge stride forward, obviously by bringing Canny,
Speaker 1: but but then that's a step back at your edge,
Speaker 1: rushers your edge. I'm not. I'm not very confident in
Speaker 1: the edges in terms of run stopping ability. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I think they'll get after
Speaker 1: him just fine, But I don't think it will be
Speaker 1: the same though, So the reason and it the same,
Speaker 1: that's the same. I'm not. I'm not making that comparison
Speaker 1: at all. I'm just I'm I am on a wait
Speaker 1: and see with Sam Williams. I from what I've seen
Speaker 1: from Sam Williams, his PAD level is way too high.
Speaker 1: I'm not convincing his variety and his ability to pass rush.
Speaker 1: I'm just not. I hope, I hope, but you know,
Speaker 1: we say it all the time. Hope is not a strategy.
Speaker 1: But I have not personally seen enough from Sam Williams
Speaker 1: to feel comfortable and confident that he's going to make
Speaker 1: an impact. That's how I to with Marshaw Kneeland. Marshaan
Speaker 1: Kneeland to me, Marshaon Kneeland to me, as an interior
Speaker 1: D lineman, that's just undersize. That's what he is to me.
Speaker 1: That's what he's been since he's gotten here. I've said it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's an undersized interior D lineman. It could they
Speaker 1: call him a d n all day long. He's not
Speaker 1: a pass rushing d n ye, So you know he
Speaker 1: is though, he's a run stopping d well. That's what
Speaker 1: he's supposed to, That's what's supposed to be. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been that. So as you're concerned about the edges being yeah,
Speaker 1: Kneeland is one of the best of that four pack,
Speaker 1: and I think we're gonna see more three four than
Speaker 1: we than we expect. I really think that was a
Speaker 1: huge reason why Kenny Clark was such a huge addition.
Speaker 1: I think adding him, now you have a true nose, right,
Speaker 1: you have a true multiple and now right your your
Speaker 1: deepest room to me, right now is a surprisingly linebacker. Right,
Speaker 1: so prosely, now after the trade, right, you're this surprisingly linebacker.
Speaker 1: So now that's your deepest room, and that's where you
Speaker 1: have the most guys that can play. Then Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: knows also tackle. Solomon Thomas tackle, and you have two
Speaker 1: stand up ends you could put. You could put Dante
Speaker 1: Feller Junior, you could put Aery, put Sam Williams, or
Speaker 1: you can put you know whoever.
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you about that. Do you think
Speaker 5: he's gonna provide more for you than Sam Williams.
Speaker 1: Yes, in past rushing ability.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 1: I think It's gonna take a while for him to
Speaker 1: get going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's gonna have his and that's probably why he's
Speaker 5: not starting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have to learn. But I think that
Speaker 1: his ceiling is substantially higher than no shot at Nyland.
Speaker 1: I just think that he's a more I think he's
Speaker 1: more athletic. That's just call it what it is. That
Speaker 1: first step is insane. There's not there's not one thing
Speaker 1: that I point. So when I look at impact players,
Speaker 1: I look, I say, hey, what's the one thing that
Speaker 1: I that I feel fully confident that you can go
Speaker 1: be pretty dominant at no matter who you line up against? Right?
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is for Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is for Marshawn Neland
Speaker 1: that's fair because the only one that's proven in that
Speaker 1: four pack is Dante Felt. Yeah, yeah, Dante Falla, Go
Speaker 1: get quarterback, Go get QB. So you know that, right,
Speaker 1: go get after it. But like when you go down
Speaker 1: the line, what are the things like Son and Thomas
Speaker 1: also DIGGI zu, both of you guys are pretty much
Speaker 1: the same guy. Go get vertical right holding the fourth
Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that, but you guys can get in
Speaker 1: the seams and get vertical and create some some internal pressure,
Speaker 1: go all the way across the line. And so what's
Speaker 1: your one thing that you do? What's how can you
Speaker 1: impact us tremendously on this game? I'm not sure that
Speaker 1: you can circle that for every player on that front.
Speaker 3: Seven Yet, Yeah, time to pick who do you feel
Speaker 3: like is gonna win Week one against the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: in the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it very subdued here because I feel like
Speaker 1: it's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be a tough one either way. We're gonna come back
Speaker 3: on Friday and the Cowboys are either gonna win the
Speaker 3: super Bowl or they're gonna be seven.
Speaker 1: There's one of the other. Got there one more fun
Speaker 1: fact out there that we're not talking about enough, right there?
Speaker 1: All right, this offense has a new play caller. Yep,
Speaker 1: Kevin Patulo. Okay, I don't know if that's how to
Speaker 1: pronounce it, but Kevin Patulo higher or how you want
Speaker 1: to say it. Anyways, this is a sixth center. This
Speaker 1: is a sixth play caller in six consecutive years. And
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts His ear hasn't been a problem yet though
Speaker 1: not yet. But this dude has never called plays. He's
Speaker 1: never called play So that that's a portion of this
Speaker 1: game that you have to take into consideration because he
Speaker 1: is going to try to now imitate what he has
Speaker 1: seen before. Right, He's either a gonna try to put
Speaker 1: his own flare on it, or he'd be gonna try
Speaker 1: to imitate what Kellen Moore did previously. You have to
Speaker 1: he has to figure out who he is and what
Speaker 1: what they are as an offense. There. I would imagine
Speaker 1: he's going to try his best to imitate because you
Speaker 1: don't want to mess up that formula that they had.
Speaker 1: But that's something to pay attention to as the game
Speaker 1: goes on as well, because if there is some high
Speaker 1: level competition early and they're not being dominant like they
Speaker 1: probably assumed that they would be, then what does that
Speaker 1: oc start to do? What does he do?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What bag does he does? He going to the Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore bag and say, well, Kellen Moore would do this.
Speaker 1: He says, no, screw this, this is my offense. Now
Speaker 1: what we're doing something to watch? I'll jump off. I'll
Speaker 1: jump off the porch with it. Man, this this is
Speaker 1: going to be It's gonna be a dog fight. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing a lot of you know, the Eagles are going
Speaker 1: to basically walk the Cowboys out of the state. I
Speaker 1: don't feel like that's going to be the case, especially
Speaker 1: when you look at the Cowboys offense and we talk
Speaker 1: about that versus the secondary in Philly, and yeah, you
Speaker 1: have some issues with Saquan and aj and Davante and Jalen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that this offense just absolutely finds a
Speaker 1: way to exploit the secondary. I don't think it's going
Speaker 1: to be an explosive game, but I think it'll have
Speaker 1: explosive plays for the Cowboys. I think Cowboys finished with
Speaker 1: twenty seven points and I think they win on the
Speaker 1: leg of Brandon Aubrey. I think twenty seven to twenty
Speaker 1: four and it goes to the wire sixty four. So
Speaker 1: you're picking the coutek one. Yeah, that's true, but hopefully
Speaker 1: not because if you depending on the sixty four yarder
Speaker 1: to win the game means you didn't move the balls
Speaker 1: easy down the field. It's easy money, but don't look
Speaker 1: easier money forty thirty, you know what I mean. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Brandon Aubrey gets you this game at the
Speaker 1: at the buzzer quickly because we have to go yep.
Speaker 5: I'm going to say Dallas twenty Philadelphia twenty three.
Speaker 1: Wow, So we're picking to win two Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I see this game almost like what Baltimore was last year.
Speaker 3: You remember that Week three match up against Baltimore. It
Speaker 3: was it was at home, but going into it, Dallas
Speaker 3: was not playing well. They had just gotten their doors
Speaker 3: blown off by New Orleans and Baltimore was was trying
Speaker 3: to figure their things out. But they were the better
Speaker 3: team across the board, and I thought they were gonna
Speaker 3: get run out of the gym, and they didn't.
Speaker 1: They fought back.
Speaker 3: It was twenty five to twenty two as the final.
Speaker 3: They just fought and fought and fought, and they were
Speaker 3: never really out of it. I think that's gonna be
Speaker 3: the case this time. I think they're gonna be right there.
Speaker 3: They need to make one or two big plays, but
Speaker 3: they just probably won't get it. In Week one, I
Speaker 3: think they fall thirty four to thirty one.
Speaker 1: On the road. That's a lot of points.
Speaker 3: Well, I do think it's gonna be a lot of Again,
Speaker 3: here we are. I think I think the offense is
Speaker 3: going to click. Yeah, I think the offense is gonna click.
Speaker 3: I think Philadelphia is just gonna click a little bit
Speaker 3: more interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the Cowboys are yet, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I know who the Eagles are. Fair. There are a
Speaker 1: number of players that we have to see. Who are
Speaker 1: you going to be your impact players, specifically on defense,
Speaker 1: and until we have that answer, I have to give
Speaker 1: the nod to Philadelphia for that reason. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be twenty seven to twenty one Philly, And just
Speaker 1: because I know who their guys are, we're sitting here
Speaker 1: with question marks over our head in terms of who
Speaker 1: those guys are. For Dallas, Pickens gets at least one touchdown,
Speaker 1: and I think he's going to be one of the
Speaker 1: huge determined effectors in the Cowboys getting us.
Speaker 3: Hopefully so hopefully so either way, we're gonna be back
Speaker 3: on Friday to break it down, win or lose for
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