Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcasta football Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas,
Speaker 1: coming to you from a virtual room filled with hero
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Patrick Clayborne. What is up? Boys?
Speaker 1: Who I mean? You know, big day, trade deadline, that's
Speaker 1: nothing else, that's it, that's it. We were yes today.
Speaker 1: Of course we were recording on the day of the
Speaker 1: general election for the United States of America. Um I
Speaker 1: I had been told during one of the game telecasts
Speaker 1: this week that Tuesday was a day off for the
Speaker 1: entire NFL company. But I have been working since seven am,
Speaker 1: so that feels as if it needs to be modified
Speaker 1: to give a more thorough understanding of who is offen
Speaker 1: who is working. I still get emails from the New
Speaker 1: York office because I took the job when I lived
Speaker 1: in New York for a year and worked out of
Speaker 1: that office once a week. And yeah, I do like
Speaker 1: getting on days like today. They're like, well, if you
Speaker 1: really knew need to get into the building, they give
Speaker 1: you certain instructions and stuff. And I'm thinking, these these
Speaker 1: New York fat cats real work is like, at some
Speaker 1: point you made the decision to be you know, a sportswriter,
Speaker 1: someone who covers football as an adult um and a
Speaker 1: blogger instead of like a corporate hack. And so corporate
Speaker 1: hacks get these days off. We remain steadfast in our duties.
Speaker 1: They can actually get in the building, all the corporate
Speaker 1: hacks out there. We have to like email six people
Speaker 1: and demonstrate an absolute need to get into the building,
Speaker 1: and then like, it's like, are you sure we could
Speaker 1: have somebody rough rifle through your things and bring them
Speaker 1: to you in a plastic bag via fed X in
Speaker 1: six weeks. It's like, no, I would, I would like
Speaker 1: to have you know, my stapler or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: NFL Film sent me something on March twelve that I
Speaker 1: believe is sitting on my desk, and I'm about to
Speaker 1: pull like mission impossible, Tom Cruise at the top of
Speaker 1: an Asian skyscraper. Move to get in there. Anyway, it's
Speaker 1: worth it. And you had beers on your desk too,
Speaker 1: I mean, like, why not you know to you those
Speaker 1: beers from Germany or so Yeah, I thought, okay, sorry, anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: it's election day and we were I would say firmly
Speaker 1: reminded too, U be civil and not not get too
Speaker 1: hardcore and sharing that realm of our personalities and opinions.
Speaker 1: But we hope that everyone has voted. And uh, I
Speaker 1: do remember four years ago when we did the show
Speaker 1: right after the election. That was an interesting show. Today's
Speaker 1: show is right on the eve of the election, and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, there's some butterflies. Let's face it, this is
Speaker 1: gonna be a wild night for this country. We're gonna
Speaker 1: keep the focus on football right now. Patrick, how you doing?
Speaker 1: By the way, I was gonna in the Claibon house tonight.
Speaker 1: I'm living the dream. You know. We we have the
Speaker 1: you know, the the child who is dealing with the
Speaker 1: running knows which is Defcon five here. Uh so he's
Speaker 1: hanging out with us. We'll go get the little one
Speaker 1: and uh you know, we're honestly, we're okay. Uh We're
Speaker 1: just we're watching the results for everybody else. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of we we got a lot of family,
Speaker 1: uh in in Alabama. So we're we're watching there and
Speaker 1: we're good, you know, no matter what, we got each
Speaker 1: other and uh, if everything goes down, uh you know,
Speaker 1: we we had a good run. All right, let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Um. The trade deadline just passed as we
Speaker 1: sat down to record today Tuesday, and a bit of
Speaker 1: a dud, you could say, Um, uh, you had let's
Speaker 1: see DeAndre Washington. Uh, the Dolphins acquired that running back
Speaker 1: from the Chiefs. You had another trade involving the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Patriots acquired wide receiver Isaiah Ford from the Dolphins
Speaker 1: in exchange for a seventh round pick. Uh. There were
Speaker 1: a couple other trades we could kind of dig into.
Speaker 1: That's that those were the deadline deals. However, a little
Speaker 1: bit bumber great because I know you've tracked this for
Speaker 1: a couple of years now, that the trade deadline had
Speaker 1: had heated up in recent years and it was turning
Speaker 1: into something a little more saucy than it had been
Speaker 1: in previous decades. But no, Dice, Yeah, it had been.
Speaker 1: And we saw a couple of deals. We've mentioned the
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlop deal last week, and we'll get into a
Speaker 1: couple of smaller deals like Kwan Alexander. But I do
Speaker 1: think the fact that you get a compensatory pick back,
Speaker 1: uh if a good player leaves via free agency, really
Speaker 1: kills kills the deadline. Patra always makes this point, and
Speaker 1: he's right. You get a third round pick back if
Speaker 1: like a high quality starter uh leaves your team in
Speaker 1: free agency, like like a Will Fuller, Um, who I
Speaker 1: know you, you're gonna mend and Dan And so it's
Speaker 1: like unless you're getting that third round or back, unless
Speaker 1: you're really in a hurry because you get it a
Speaker 1: year faster. If you trade, you know, trade it now,
Speaker 1: then it's not quite worth it. Mark, would you like
Speaker 1: to say something today? I agree with that point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's also there are a lot of teams
Speaker 1: because I I one thing that kind of gets on
Speaker 1: my nerves about the trade deadline a little bit um
Speaker 1: and it and it's happening on Twitter. I'm sorry that
Speaker 1: I'm always pinpointing that app but it's every all. It's
Speaker 1: everyone wanting their teams to be It reminds me of
Speaker 1: free agency six months later. Everyone wants their teams to
Speaker 1: be super active. But for a lot of these teams,
Speaker 1: like making a picking up a veteran for what's going
Speaker 1: to be seven or eight weeks and then having to
Speaker 1: deal with what happens after just this year specifically, doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like it made a lot of sense. Like maybe
Speaker 1: a team like the Saints, they're going for broke. But
Speaker 1: here's why a lot of teams in the middle. It's
Speaker 1: our fault though, because it's great. It's good content, not ours,
Speaker 1: like the four of us, but just the quote unquote
Speaker 1: media because we we do tons of trade deadline content
Speaker 1: because it's scores, you know, on TV, on the internet,
Speaker 1: there's like a month worth of trade deadline content because
Speaker 1: everyone wants to read about it. It's fun. And so
Speaker 1: then the fans get like a rationally, they get their
Speaker 1: hopes up a little much. I guess just like eight
Speaker 1: years into me being like overly excited about a minor trade,
Speaker 1: I've kind of not caught off guard or swayed emotionally
Speaker 1: by that as I have been in the past. All Right,
Speaker 1: let's if they didn't well, if they if they didn't
Speaker 1: want people to talk about it, right, if you were
Speaker 1: a close source to a situation, then then stop leaking
Speaker 1: discussions regarding will Fuller there. Um, you know, there's just
Speaker 1: there's only so many players that that are available, and
Speaker 1: fans obviously want teams to win, and personnel want to
Speaker 1: keep their jobs, and so there's that clash there, uh
Speaker 1: that that kind of makes things not happen sometimes, And
Speaker 1: you know, fans get sad, but they still you know,
Speaker 1: the games are still coming, we hope on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: they'll have something else to think about. Let's be last.
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. I mean he's always good for that's crazy man.
Speaker 1: Pour out one for Bob, Bobby all right, So Kwan Alexander,
Speaker 1: Greg mentioned linebacker acquired by the Saints in exchange for
Speaker 1: a conditional fifth round pick, an Kiko Alonso, who I
Speaker 1: feel has been traded more than any player in the
Speaker 1: history of our league. Kwan Alexander, if that name rings
Speaker 1: a bell um, but not because you saw him making
Speaker 1: a bunch of plays last couple of years. It is
Speaker 1: because the Niners gave him a ton of money in
Speaker 1: free agency last year and it was one of those
Speaker 1: when speaking of content mill and scoring, Greg showing that
Speaker 1: he's the old boss by using like corporate room slang
Speaker 1: for stories that do really good metrics. Oh we had
Speaker 1: a big score. I don't even know if that is
Speaker 1: slang free agency winners and losers story. But Kwon Alexander
Speaker 1: was labeled by many as an overpaid by the Niners,
Speaker 1: and they now decide to move on without him, moving
Speaker 1: him for not a ton of value. Yeah, they get
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick, and it just got me thinking.
Speaker 1: And you're right, they paid him a lot of money
Speaker 1: last year and he wasn't a huge contributor to their
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. By the end, there was you know,
Speaker 1: open question whether he should be bench because Dre green
Speaker 1: Law was playing so well. So they have two good
Speaker 1: young linebackers green Law and Warner. They don't need Alexander.
Speaker 1: He's been hurt a ton, he missed a lot of tackles.
Speaker 1: But it did get me thinking, like how this forty
Speaker 1: Niners team is going to have to transition, and you know,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Jimmy Garoppolo, but also de Ford was
Speaker 1: a guy they spent a pick and huge money on
Speaker 1: before last year. His guaranteed money has gone after this year,
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably move on from him. That They've
Speaker 1: always kind of been a high risk, high reward type
Speaker 1: of teams. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. This one
Speaker 1: didn't work because they basically are just giving him away,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to save a little money to the staats. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it had they had, you know, the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter gone differently in the Super Bowl, everyone in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area would not have a problem with the money
Speaker 1: spent and everything else. When you don't, when you don't,
Speaker 1: you know, finalize that Super Bowl win, the questions begin.
Speaker 1: I mean and dancy your point. On Kiko Alonso, he
Speaker 1: now is in his fifth city. Um, he is been
Speaker 1: traded endlessly. He's thirty two. He reminds me of the
Speaker 1: resume that I had when I was thirty two, where
Speaker 1: I kept moving essentially west across the country and asked,
Speaker 1: like a family friend, why I was not finding um
Speaker 1: well paid working. He said, I'm looking at your resume
Speaker 1: and you, frankly, you look like someone on the run um,
Speaker 1: which is slightly concerning to employers. But he is from
Speaker 1: Los Gatos, right outside of San Francisco, the Cats, which
Speaker 1: I spent a really bizarre New Year's even one time.
Speaker 1: A little uh, Kiko Alonso, nugget, nice nug bro. We've
Speaker 1: been working at NFL media long enough, Mark that when
Speaker 1: he was the second round pick to the Bills, he
Speaker 1: had a nice rookie season with them, and people in
Speaker 1: Western New York were so depressed about the state of
Speaker 1: professional football that you would have thought that Kiko Alonso
Speaker 1: was Lawrence Taylor, the second an Old West favorite. Hasn't
Speaker 1: played this year, So that shows you what kind of
Speaker 1: value Alexander as Kiko Alans is coming off a serious injury,
Speaker 1: has not played alright. Speaking of line back suckers on
Speaker 1: the move the Steelers, this happened before the deadline today.
Speaker 1: The Steelers acquired inside linebacker Avery Williamson in seventh round
Speaker 1: picked from the Jets in exchange for a fifth round pick. Uh. Jets,
Speaker 1: essentially you know he Avery will Williamson. This this is
Speaker 1: the kind of an example of why you don't get
Speaker 1: as bad as the Jets get without there being layers
Speaker 1: of poor decisions. I think it was three seasons ago
Speaker 1: the Jets side Demario Davis, who was a nice player
Speaker 1: for them in the middle of their defense. Uh, he
Speaker 1: hit free agency, and then they made the decision instead
Speaker 1: of retaining Davis, they signed Avery Williamson from the Titans.
Speaker 1: And Williamson had a decent first year, blew out his
Speaker 1: knee a second year, and then was kind of in
Speaker 1: the doghouse with Greg Williams in year three. And Damario
Speaker 1: Davis is now an All Pro and one of the
Speaker 1: best rush linebackers in football. So a lot of these
Speaker 1: things have to go wrong. But the Steelers get a
Speaker 1: player here, uh, Patrick that can somewhat fill the void
Speaker 1: for Devin Bush who was lost to the tourn A
Speaker 1: c l a couple of weeks ago. And that was
Speaker 1: the discussion right pre Devon Bush, was we need somebody
Speaker 1: who can play with speed in the middle of our defense.
Speaker 1: They lose Bush and what what? I fine? Right, the
Speaker 1: Jets have somebody, you know, Greg Williams. Of course you
Speaker 1: have to uh first adhere to Greg Williams and then
Speaker 1: be successful and uh, you know, it didn't work out
Speaker 1: for Abey Williamson, who has a great bit right of
Speaker 1: doing things in his full uniform and so as soon
Speaker 1: as the trade happens, he's out there handling the cab
Speaker 1: in full uniform with an umbrella, which was great. I
Speaker 1: think it fits it. He fits in Pittsburgh. He's gonna
Speaker 1: give it that defense to be plug and play. And
Speaker 1: that's the kind the type of thing you look for
Speaker 1: in a trade deadline, right. A team that's a certified seller,
Speaker 1: uh that's in the seller that's not winning anything, and
Speaker 1: a team that's good uh and and you know they
Speaker 1: exchange goods and services and it works out. I think
Speaker 1: it definitely works out for the Steelers here. Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: have to see how the Jets uh use those picks.
Speaker 1: Always take other guys veterans and make them look better.
Speaker 1: That's I guess that's coaching. They all like Steven Nelson
Speaker 1: and it's just true. They've taken a lot of other
Speaker 1: guys free agents. Uh, you're not that excited about and
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, that guy solid. Now that he's with Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: they were looking at him. Actually, there were whispers that
Speaker 1: when Ryan Shazier went down, they looked into him, So
Speaker 1: it's there's been a interest in him for a while.
Speaker 1: The Titans are having all sorts of issues getting off
Speaker 1: the field on third down. They can't rush the passer,
Speaker 1: the secondary is inconsistent, so they acquire cornerback Desmond King
Speaker 1: from the Chargers in exchange for six round pick. This one, um,
Speaker 1: I was scratching my head a little bit trying to
Speaker 1: figure out because I know that King greg had fallen
Speaker 1: out of favor uh in l A. But he was
Speaker 1: a All Pro guy two years ago and now he's
Speaker 1: going for a six round pick. That doesn't happen a
Speaker 1: lot and a double All Pro because he was an
Speaker 1: All Pro special team or that year. That doesn't happen
Speaker 1: a lot either. I love watching Desmond King. He seems
Speaker 1: he seekunda. Reminds me of a better version of Chauncey
Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, who annoys everyone he plays against. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just like a poll He's got like a ton
Speaker 1: of energy. And um, he was in the doghouse last
Speaker 1: year because of disciplinary issues, some sort of I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was, and it was always vague with
Speaker 1: the Chargers, but the coaching staff and him seemed to
Speaker 1: have problems. And so that's perfect. And he's on a
Speaker 1: contract here, so they only had eight more games of them.
Speaker 1: They're not going anywhere, but it's huge for Tennessee, who's
Speaker 1: just so bad. They're historically bad on third down. They
Speaker 1: right now are the worst team according to Mike Sando
Speaker 1: in recorded history on getting off the field on third down.
Speaker 1: They've only recorded that since since. But that's like, that's
Speaker 1: amazing that they're the worst team ever, not just the
Speaker 1: worst team this year, the worst team ever. So anything
Speaker 1: that can help is doesn't keep saying the Titans don't
Speaker 1: have an identity on defense that's a distinct identity. So
Speaker 1: this threatens that identity. If he comes in and makes
Speaker 1: them better. Um, don't you feel like we're hearing it
Speaker 1: a lot this year in various teams connected to the
Speaker 1: worst ever defense and name the category. It seems to
Speaker 1: be a thing. Yeah, somebody has to be the worst
Speaker 1: right in. But when you when you like look at
Speaker 1: being the best year ever for offenses makes sense. If
Speaker 1: you're worse than everybody else, they're still bad. So there's
Speaker 1: a lot of competition to be the worst in at anything. Though,
Speaker 1: there's got a king so versatilthough, I mean I loved
Speaker 1: watching and playing in the Titans seemed like in theory
Speaker 1: they'd be the perfect team for him use them in
Speaker 1: a bunch of ways. And the match making. The matchmaking
Speaker 1: seemed odd right too, because all the teams that have
Speaker 1: secondary players that are worth trading for are still contending.
Speaker 1: So especially when you look at saying that the East
Speaker 1: with like there's a fuller for the football team or
Speaker 1: UH for the Giants. Getleman's signs um blanking on his name. Dberry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: James Bradberry who we brought in to UH as a
Speaker 1: rookie right to replace an All pro and Josh Norman
Speaker 1: he brings him back. So but the problem with the
Speaker 1: East is those teams are all technically still contending, so
Speaker 1: they're not they're not gonna shift them. And so like
Speaker 1: King going to Tennessee was maybe one of the only
Speaker 1: things that could actually happen a team that was looking
Speaker 1: to deal somebody and a team that really needed help
Speaker 1: in the secondary. So I'm glad it worked out for
Speaker 1: both of them. Yeah, it feels like a good reclamation
Speaker 1: project for sure. Um, all right, moving on, that's kind
Speaker 1: of the trade deadline. It was kind of a but
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Still a lot of fun
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about, but let's hit the rest of
Speaker 1: the news, and uh, let's start in San Francisco. Not
Speaker 1: a fun situation for the Niners, who are just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't want to say it because I've
Speaker 1: mentioned on the show, you know, I do the Power
Speaker 1: Ranking show, and they have vexed in the all season
Speaker 1: because they're just every time you think they're done, they rise.
Speaker 1: Every time they rise and you're ready to take them seriously,
Speaker 1: they slide. But now something else has entered the picture,
Speaker 1: which is just injuries at another level. And Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: will start there. He has a high ankle sprain again,
Speaker 1: but this is a different one and this one is worse.
Speaker 1: Uh suffered in the loss to the Seahawks in Week eight.
Speaker 1: UH Kyle Shanahan deemed it a whole new high ankle sprain. Um,
Speaker 1: it's worse than the last one. He will be sideline
Speaker 1: four to six weeks. He's been moved to injured reserve,
Speaker 1: and there is a chance he needs surgery. And if
Speaker 1: he needs surgery, his season is over. It doesn't stop there.
Speaker 1: George Kittle, that's the jangat piece, that's the most important
Speaker 1: part of the San Francisco forty Niners offense. After further testing,
Speaker 1: it was revealed that he had a broken bone in
Speaker 1: his foot. It's a fracture. He is an I R.
Speaker 1: He is out eight weeks and if you do the math,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much done zo for George Kittle. Uh Sessler.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any I usually don't say Cessler.
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Sometimes I appreciate it. People use
Speaker 1: last night like you've done it to me. Sometimes it
Speaker 1: always stops me in my tracks. I know he los
Speaker 1: fuse it. When you do that, then I I forget
Speaker 1: what it is I'm supposed to call you sometimes because
Speaker 1: I remember that one aspect of it really annoyed you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, which one was it that Dan doesn't like?
Speaker 1: And then you're making your own so I don't you know, yeah, hands,
Speaker 1: this is a little short. It's like something my C
Speaker 1: y O coach would call me in fifth grade if
Speaker 1: I was, you know, not getting back on defense fast enough.
Speaker 1: That's beside the point. The Niners. They're done now, right, Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm considering that, you know, just days ago
Speaker 1: on our preview show on NFL Network, I'll mention, Um,
Speaker 1: I was just you know, singing praises all over again
Speaker 1: about Kyle Shanahan being the coach that can coach around
Speaker 1: injuries better than anyone else in the league. Well, at
Speaker 1: some point you just have to wave goodbye to the ship,
Speaker 1: and too much has happened. I don't know if someone
Speaker 1: has a hex on that team, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: think for me the question you have to mean certainly
Speaker 1: someone like George Kittle, the new that he is deep
Speaker 1: into the future with his team, it's fair to ask
Speaker 1: if we've seen the last of Jimmy g And if
Speaker 1: you say that, you know you paid Kwan Alexander A
Speaker 1: ton of money, and he gave you what thirteen starts
Speaker 1: or something. They've given Jimmy g eight five million for
Speaker 1: thirty starts, and and and he's regressed, if anything. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's giving you less to look at.
Speaker 1: And so I think it moves the Niners into a
Speaker 1: really pivotal off season. Where are you gonna hang tight
Speaker 1: with this quarterback going into next year or you're gonna
Speaker 1: look around, because I think it's fair to look around. Well,
Speaker 1: especially when you think of the former Kyle Shanahan quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who might be available. You got Kirk Cousins, UM be
Speaker 1: tricky to it'd be tricky to trade him. But I'll
Speaker 1: never forget um Mike Silver being on our network reporting
Speaker 1: that Kirk Cousins was going to be a member of
Speaker 1: the forty Niners eventually because it was a you know,
Speaker 1: a unique report, Um that basically Kyle Jannan wanted to
Speaker 1: bring Cousins in, but he had to wait a year. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was like in the March ofen and then
Speaker 1: Belichick comes calling with a guy Garoppolo at a very
Speaker 1: ridiculously cheap value, you that they weren't really looking to get,
Speaker 1: and so they take them, they take them for a spin.
Speaker 1: They win six games in a row, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's ride with Jimmy G. But it's never really
Speaker 1: been um a great fit since Jimmy G tours a
Speaker 1: c L. Now that's a small sample size, but you
Speaker 1: just don't get the feeling that Garoppolo is ever comfortable.
Speaker 1: So you got Cousins possibly available in a trade, and
Speaker 1: you got Matt Ryan maybe possibly available in a trade.
Speaker 1: Who Shanahan was smited by the football gods with two?
Speaker 1: What did Kyle Shanahan do? I mean, this whole the
Speaker 1: soul forty Niners run has been totally killed by ending
Speaker 1: except for last year. I mean it's tough. I would
Speaker 1: point to Connor wars um notation during our you know
Speaker 1: special about various uh that theories, conspiracy theories, where I
Speaker 1: think it probably ties back to an offense that the
Speaker 1: Shanahans laid on the Manning family a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I don't have any more details to that, but it's
Speaker 1: just something to look into. Yeah, it obviously is what
Speaker 1: drove Patrick Mahomes to complete that third downpass. That's already
Speaker 1: clear connection. But at Gregg's point, like legitimately so if
Speaker 1: but if Atlanta is near the top of the draft,
Speaker 1: and we know Trevor Lawrence maybe one overall of the
Speaker 1: Jets at Lantam, looking at Justin Fields out of Ohio state,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's available, Zach Wilson is at by US. There's
Speaker 1: all these quarterbacks available, I think with there already been
Speaker 1: a quarterback backlog, uh coming in that Jimmy G is
Speaker 1: going to be a Chicago bear in one like that
Speaker 1: just came me thinking about this problem in New England Patriot.
Speaker 1: I mean, they would give up a pick for Jimmy G.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Jimmy G. People think it's contracts bad.
Speaker 1: It's not bad anymore. There's no more guaranteed money. He's
Speaker 1: making about twenty four a year, which is literally the
Speaker 1: cheapest veteran in the league. Like that's what Teddy makes.
Speaker 1: And uh, I could totally see Belichick like giving up
Speaker 1: a third or fourth to get him back. I think
Speaker 1: it was Daniel Jeremond who said recently, um that what
Speaker 1: is it? Thirty five starts is what you It's interesting
Speaker 1: to me that Mark said it. He Garuppolo has made
Speaker 1: thirty starts for the forty niners, but it's been over
Speaker 1: four years now, and it's like at a certain point
Speaker 1: you have to factor in the durability to all this
Speaker 1: as well. And Patrick, you made the point of Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill Or is it Sammy Watkins down the sideline that
Speaker 1: changed the Super Bowl? Or But sports is funny. I
Speaker 1: just pulled it up on YouTube because it's a moment
Speaker 1: that lives will live on and infamy for the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: One thirty three to play, Emanuel Sanders beats, the corner, beats,
Speaker 1: the safety has a step and Jimmy Gene misses him
Speaker 1: by three yards on what would have been the touchdown
Speaker 1: that would have given him the lead back with ninety
Speaker 1: seconds to play. What do they hold on to win
Speaker 1: that game either way? I don't know. But it's just
Speaker 1: that sports, and there's no no one's talking about Jimmy
Speaker 1: g coming or going if he hits on that past
Speaker 1: to Sanders. Um. But we'll see what happens next, Hubba
Speaker 1: love quarterback drama. Moving on, Man, what a rough week
Speaker 1: for the Ravens. You blow a ten pointly to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson looks like you have I don't think I
Speaker 1: could say that. Uh, you lose Ronnie Stanley or left
Speaker 1: tackle for the year, and then Marlon Humphrey are all
Speaker 1: pro corner announces that he has contracted the coronavirus and
Speaker 1: as a results, seven close contacts of Humphrey that from
Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero added to the COVID nineteen list. Uh, just
Speaker 1: a very tough situation and COVID is it's really the
Speaker 1: wave is coming. I mean, it's been happen. It's been
Speaker 1: a rolling wave in this country and this world for
Speaker 1: months now, but in the NFL realm, you feel like
Speaker 1: it's there's a tidal wave building here. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: back to you know, June where we kept saying if
Speaker 1: it's happening in the country, it's gonna be happening in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And we're at record numbers now in the country.
Speaker 1: So I am. I am concerned obviously, not just about
Speaker 1: everyone who's contracting the virus, but just just the how
Speaker 1: likely it is to finish sixty games for all these teams.
Speaker 1: It seems to get tough for each week. Now when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Ravens now we've become experts that
Speaker 1: we know that these close contacts have five days to
Speaker 1: get off of it, which in you know, if you
Speaker 1: do the math, they could all be eligible to play
Speaker 1: on Sunday except for Humphrey. Um, but we'll have to
Speaker 1: wait and see. Yes, certainly, yeah, go ahead, Mark, No,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. I was just gonna say, certainly
Speaker 1: more concerned about the virus. As Greg mentioned, when you're
Speaker 1: nearing a hundred thousand cases a day. Uh, those are
Speaker 1: gonna exist in football, They're gonna exist in the postal
Speaker 1: service everywhere, uh where people are are out and they're
Speaker 1: around people. Um But in terms of concerns, losing Stanley
Speaker 1: definitely hurts. But you know, they lost a game on
Speaker 1: a Monday night to the defending champions, and then there's
Speaker 1: the only undefeated team in the league and there's an
Speaker 1: incompletion in literally the very last play of the game.
Speaker 1: I'm not super concerned going back to seventy two and
Speaker 1: not like teams win every game. Uh So, I still
Speaker 1: think this Baltimore Ravens team, Uh, you know, is a
Speaker 1: real problem for the a f C. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at the players that if, for instance, this five day
Speaker 1: window doesn't get they don't get out of this five
Speaker 1: day window. You've got four five linebackers that are being
Speaker 1: sequestered right now. Or put it. You know, quarantine sequestered,
Speaker 1: isn't the incorrect term. I mean, that's that would be
Speaker 1: very problematic. I mean football in general. They are luckier
Speaker 1: than the Skies that these games in general happen every
Speaker 1: seven days for these teams, because this, this is the
Speaker 1: kind of thing that would wreak ultra havoc if football
Speaker 1: happened every three or four days. You've got full position
Speaker 1: groups right now, no matter whether they play or not,
Speaker 1: they will not practice all week. And now that probably
Speaker 1: for some teams is lesser of an issue for the
Speaker 1: Ravens than it would be for others. But that is
Speaker 1: a inequality, and these inequalities have added up for certain teams.
Speaker 1: But we kind of forget about it. We're just looking
Speaker 1: at the win loss record. I mean, it's it's messy
Speaker 1: and there's something there is a little bit of an
Speaker 1: ominous aura to it as well. We have two months
Speaker 1: remaining in the regular season, right Look at MLB there,
Speaker 1: I know they played in the summer, and it's a
Speaker 1: different situation with COVID. They survived the regular season by
Speaker 1: the skin of their teeth without using a bubble. As
Speaker 1: soon as the playoff hits, they got inside a bubble,
Speaker 1: and they were able to get through the season without
Speaker 1: any COVID issues until the Justin Turner incident in the
Speaker 1: deciding game of the World Series. So almost perfect, but
Speaker 1: not quite there, I guess. I guess I'd be kind
Speaker 1: of shocked if they don't have some type of bubble
Speaker 1: situation in place at some point the season. It feels like,
Speaker 1: as as my mom would say, you're spitting in the
Speaker 1: skoy and waiting for something terrible it happened. What does
Speaker 1: that mean? Well, don't you don't spit in the sky.
Speaker 1: You don't say things, You don't put things out there
Speaker 1: in the universe that you don't want to come back
Speaker 1: on you. Um, but yeah, and my mom doesn't talk
Speaker 1: like that either. But I like to enhance the uh
Speaker 1: the queen's accent. Don't spit in the skoy all right.
Speaker 1: Other COVID news cowboys place uh Andy Dalton on the
Speaker 1: COVID list. Are you gotta you gotta be kidding? Thankfully,
Speaker 1: according to a todd to report, he's not Oh, he's
Speaker 1: not asymptomatic. That's a that is not a good choice
Speaker 1: cluster of words. I misread that that means he has symptoms, right,
Speaker 1: if you're not asymptomatic to say his symptoms, what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? Anyway? Bad news for Dalton who it
Speaker 1: could not be going worse his Cowboys season plays poorly,
Speaker 1: Ben gets concussed and now has the COVID. So Ben Denucci,
Speaker 1: you would think we'd get another start, But now we're
Speaker 1: hearing that he was so poor on Sunday Night football
Speaker 1: that they might be bringing somebody off the street to
Speaker 1: start that game. The Cowboys are absolutely in the running
Speaker 1: for the number one overall pick and they're playing the Steelers.
Speaker 1: So whoever you put out there is not going to
Speaker 1: be thankful for the opportunity. I would are they in
Speaker 1: the running that? I mean the Jets gotta win two games.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Jets are as much in the
Speaker 1: running for oh and sixteen. Well, no, the Jets are
Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse. But if you are sitting
Speaker 1: on they have two wins, right, and do you see
Speaker 1: another win on the schedule? They could be told I
Speaker 1: would have been with you, Greg before I saw the
Speaker 1: Benda Nucci game on Sunday Night that it did not
Speaker 1: inspire confidence. Well, I don't mean two and fourteen is
Speaker 1: on the table, although they do have you know games
Speaker 1: in this this uh terrible division left, but in two
Speaker 1: and fourteen is very on the table. I guess I
Speaker 1: would if if we were going to do a sandwich,
Speaker 1: I'd put the Jets final record right at one and
Speaker 1: fifteen probably would be my Well, you also don't need
Speaker 1: like you don't need the number one overall pick to
Speaker 1: be in you know, a gold position. Come draft. It
Speaker 1: does go back. I think we talked about it last week.
Speaker 1: We're throwing out different theories for some silly game we
Speaker 1: were doing. What if the Cowboys have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: bring Justin Fields or some other hot shot into their building,
Speaker 1: would they would they have the gall to hit a
Speaker 1: complete reset? I mean, hold on, Jerry Jones was into
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzielle when Tony Romo was the quarterback, So I
Speaker 1: would put nothing past. They said all the right things,
Speaker 1: and they always say all the right things. But suddenly
Speaker 1: that opportunity where Trevor for Trevor Lawrence came to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Yes, they would consider it heavily and probably
Speaker 1: go in that direction. I think they say the right
Speaker 1: things unless you're Ben Denucci, poor guy, if listening to
Speaker 1: Dallas radio, this morning heard and the owner, his owner,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, saying that, well, this guy just wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for it. You know, it's just buried Denucci. As if
Speaker 1: Nucci is the biggest part of their problem. Could you
Speaker 1: even imagine if you miked up the luxury suite during
Speaker 1: that game, like, look, who's the guy that cleans his glasses?
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones goes that boy ain't ever starting another game
Speaker 1: for the Star. You hear me, that boy is dumb.
Speaker 1: What's the what's the skit with the shining the glasses business?
Speaker 1: That's that they're fine with that? Okay, well that happened.
Speaker 1: That was Stephen Jones. By the way, it's like the
Speaker 1: other offshoot child very absolutely in the running for Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1: It is in their mission statement. It's been new she
Speaker 1: sees the football field again. Was it the Eric Trump
Speaker 1: of the Jerry Jones family? It was? It was a
Speaker 1: great I thought it was a grandson, but I could
Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe it was a son in law. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's let's please, let's move on. Let's come on tracks here.
Speaker 1: Um all right, another COVID with one last COVID thing
Speaker 1: to share. Hopefully another one doesn't pop up by the
Speaker 1: end of the show. But yes, Broncos general manager John
Speaker 1: Elway and CEO Joe Ellis tested positive for COVID. Nineteen.
Speaker 1: Rap sheet reported UM that the team is confident the
Speaker 1: virus transmissions haven't outside the team facility. But who knows
Speaker 1: that John always sixty years old, Joe Ellis is sixty one.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not in a um Nott's not in
Speaker 1: the zone of Hey, you're young and fresh and you're fine.
Speaker 1: I'd be concerned about this stuff. I mean it's being
Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean some of the college
Speaker 1: players who are talking about how long it took to
Speaker 1: get rid of some symptoms, some of the some of
Speaker 1: the pretty common um mental side effects that you're a
Speaker 1: little foggy, you know, for maybe months afterwards. That concerns you.
Speaker 1: When you got quarterbacks who had it and you know,
Speaker 1: things like that, it didn't get a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: But Rick weil Armstead of the Jaguars is out for
Speaker 1: the year because he was hospitalized twice with with COVID.
Speaker 1: That was a guy who might have started at running
Speaker 1: back for for the Jaguars, And so it's all it's
Speaker 1: all a lottery and once once you make the decision
Speaker 1: to play and not apt out. Then whatever happens with
Speaker 1: you COVID was is, it's just kind of on you.
Speaker 1: And so that that's my concern is what incentive is
Speaker 1: there for a player to report symptoms? Um, if if
Speaker 1: you have symptoms and you're just going to be out
Speaker 1: and potentially, uh, maybe your career could be in question.
Speaker 1: So Marlett Humphrey had symptoms last week, was out a day,
Speaker 1: didn't test positive, and then was backpracticing with his team
Speaker 1: for two days and then played in the game. So
Speaker 1: that shows everyone could be doing everything right. No one's
Speaker 1: at fault there, um, but there's no right answer there,
Speaker 1: right not to belabor, but he's one of the guys
Speaker 1: that they do the test on Sunday, you don't get
Speaker 1: the result till Monday, and he went into the game
Speaker 1: having been positive for Corona. That's not that far from
Speaker 1: the Dodgers scenario, right. I Mean, that just is very murky,
Speaker 1: and it's like, we're gonna press on, We're gonna play
Speaker 1: all these games, but you're talking about like the health
Speaker 1: of your players and coaches. Honestly, how did we get here?
Speaker 1: Imagine if you were imagine it's two thousand, seventeen, the
Speaker 1: four of us are doing the podcast, and then somebody
Speaker 1: showed up and like, here's a tape of the November
Speaker 1: three show, including the top of the show discussion. By
Speaker 1: the way, so let's take this back to about two. Um, imagine,
Speaker 1: it's just it's madness, the world that we live in
Speaker 1: and habit. It's I would say, like Mark, you just
Speaker 1: don't age. Love the shirt. You're just just don't age.
Speaker 1: I know you are older, but you know, you know, thanks, Well,
Speaker 1: it's you know that I'm you know, these are methods
Speaker 1: that didn't exist back in that I'm using right now
Speaker 1: on believable. All right, Um, alright, so there's the update
Speaker 1: of everything that's going on in the league before we
Speaker 1: get to Monday night football. Curious boys, Um with the
Speaker 1: trade downline now in the rear view mirror, if you
Speaker 1: have any trades that you think should have happened, and
Speaker 1: I'll start here. Will Fuller should be on the Packers
Speaker 1: right now. This one made sense to me. There was
Speaker 1: reports there was smoke around this. Fuller as on an
Speaker 1: expiring contract. He's a veteran that will command pretty good money,
Speaker 1: you would think on the open market. The Texans are
Speaker 1: a team that is neither a team of the present
Speaker 1: or the futurist things currently stand. So anything to recoup
Speaker 1: some draft assets you would think would be something they'd
Speaker 1: be interested in. And for the Packers, man, you know,
Speaker 1: you watch that game on Sunday and it just remind you,
Speaker 1: as Dalvin Cook rips him apart, that they have a
Speaker 1: lot of the same problems on defense that ended their
Speaker 1: season last year. And you might not be able to
Speaker 1: fix that in a trade deadline or not have anybody
Speaker 1: out there that you feel comfortable going after. So why
Speaker 1: not do the next best thing? And you have Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers playing at you know, all all pro levels. Um,
Speaker 1: go get him another big time weapon and see if
Speaker 1: you can just outscore your problems. I think your window
Speaker 1: is finite with Rogers. He's doing it in a big
Speaker 1: way this year. Why not just go for it? Because
Speaker 1: I know you have Alan Lazard and I are and
Speaker 1: I guess he's coming back at some point. But Marcus
Speaker 1: Valves Scantling is one fifteen out of one seventeen on
Speaker 1: the graded wide receivers for PFF. I mean that was
Speaker 1: an obvious area of upgraded and would have made the
Speaker 1: Packers terrifying because Fuller has been healthy and very good
Speaker 1: uh for the Texans this year. But apparently, according to reports,
Speaker 1: there was a disagreement internally with the Packers about what
Speaker 1: he was worth Fuller, because he is an injury risk.
Speaker 1: He is a guy you have to then re sign.
Speaker 1: Do you want to give up a mid round pick?
Speaker 1: I assume maybe a second or third for a guy
Speaker 1: that might not stay round or might not stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I get it, but it was worth the risk to me.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They just they just used the second
Speaker 1: round pick on a guy who's not even playing. And
Speaker 1: so like I J yeah, A J. Dillon and then
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is the first round pick, and so I
Speaker 1: I I understand that that you want to maximize value.
Speaker 1: But how many years of Aaron Rodgers does the team
Speaker 1: have left with your draft pick? You said that it's
Speaker 1: not that many, So why not? I saw, like we
Speaker 1: all sat there and watched Alan Zard wide open catch
Speaker 1: a ball. He ran a great route, but he got
Speaker 1: chased down from behind. He just he doesn't have that
Speaker 1: type of speed Will Fuller does. And I'm sure he's
Speaker 1: an injury risk. Everybody on earth is an injury risk.
Speaker 1: That's why we're doing these shows from home, because everybody's
Speaker 1: an injury risk. I don't understand that logic. I'm with you, Dan, Uh,
Speaker 1: this this is a trade that should have happened. I
Speaker 1: I am fine with the Packers not making this move.
Speaker 1: I just when when you watch there, usually I want
Speaker 1: them to make a move. But when you watch the Packers,
Speaker 1: lack of receivers really seems pretty low on their needs.
Speaker 1: They are great passing attack. They were a great passing
Speaker 1: attack last week. They were extremely efficient throwing the ball. Uh,
Speaker 1: Lazard will get back like, Yes, I would love to
Speaker 1: have will Fuller, but then you got to give him
Speaker 1: the franchise taggers sign them long term. And so unless
Speaker 1: you're willing to do that, Um, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a huge like move for
Speaker 1: them for for eight weeks. And I and I don't
Speaker 1: like the fact. I don't like the argument that they
Speaker 1: draft they drafted poorly. Uh. In terms of A J. Dillon,
Speaker 1: it looks like and and Love they're not getting anything
Speaker 1: out of if if Love has a chance of being
Speaker 1: the top ten quarterback, that was a great pick. They
Speaker 1: have two first round picks a year ago. You don't
Speaker 1: see anyone like going crazy because Rashan Gary and Darniell
Speaker 1: Savage gives them nothing week after week. I mean, Savage
Speaker 1: is just there. Gary gives him. It's like that's what
Speaker 1: usually get with your picks. So it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: mind if you take a chance at a quarterback, get
Speaker 1: your defense better, that's all right. Carry that he's been
Speaker 1: on the phone with Goody, I think, and then they
Speaker 1: all get along that stuff though. That's my thing that
Speaker 1: they've already got their quarterback right, so use the pick,
Speaker 1: use the three, use it too. Whatever. Again, it wasn't
Speaker 1: sounded like it was kind of costa to It was
Speaker 1: not just that they didn't use the first or second.
Speaker 1: They waited until the sixth round to take a defensive player.
Speaker 1: If you got run out of the building in the
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against rheemost in the Niners. And that's
Speaker 1: all ancient history. Now. My point was, yes, Greg, is
Speaker 1: their offense passing offense especially very good right now? Yes?
Speaker 1: But would it have made them better with will Fuller?
Speaker 1: I think so? And why not? But they have their reasons,
Speaker 1: all right, who's got one? Who else got one? I've
Speaker 1: got one? I want the Cowboys to step up because
Speaker 1: Mark you know, tweeted it out there in primetime a
Speaker 1: couple more times during I mean, poor uh Nance and
Speaker 1: Romo are going to do uh Cooper rush starting this week.
Speaker 1: That that's the Cowboys player who I guess is probably
Speaker 1: gonna start who has done person. It's a real person.
Speaker 1: I saw him in training camp once. At one point
Speaker 1: he was in a in a battle with Kellen Moore.
Speaker 1: How about that. Yeah, here's what they should do. You know,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones got into the Hall of Fame, um, you know,
Speaker 1: for doing things for the good of the league, like
Speaker 1: making the league more money essentially. You know, the NFL
Speaker 1: is famous for doing things for the good of the league.
Speaker 1: How about you go trade for Jamis Winston for the
Speaker 1: good of the league. And uh so when we're watching
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's just a little more fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Just do it for the seven million or it's like
Speaker 1: thirty five million people watching on Thanksgiving, Let's watch Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: Who knows, you might even win some games and win
Speaker 1: this terrible division. Anyways, I'm sure the Saints would give
Speaker 1: him away for very little, just just just for the
Speaker 1: entertainment value. Was Winston Gregg is coming off a season
Speaker 1: where through thirty interceptions. Now you're gonna trade them in
Speaker 1: the middle of the season and say, learned this playbook
Speaker 1: in a week and you're would be entertaining. You can't
Speaker 1: tell me they wouldn't be way better with what's the
Speaker 1: worst and that can happen. I do throw a pick,
Speaker 1: give up before fourth for the good of the league. Seriously,
Speaker 1: the amount of people. If you did the math, it's
Speaker 1: probably like four people are gonna be watching Cowboys games
Speaker 1: nationally for the rest of the year. Just do it.
Speaker 1: Why are you giving up a high It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a high fourth round pick, right, Why are you giving
Speaker 1: that up? Whatever? This sings to be fine with that
Speaker 1: one year, Like, damn near one month's out of the box.
Speaker 1: I'm only down on your track because you were down
Speaker 1: in mind. Greg uh Patrick, you got one. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got one of the Denver Broncos and Kareem Jackson to
Speaker 1: Cleveland for a third round pick. He's got an out
Speaker 1: in this contract that basically he is only gonna be
Speaker 1: about a two million dollar cap hit next year. You
Speaker 1: get a productive veteran player that gives Joe Woods another
Speaker 1: piece to play with they can do a lot of things.
Speaker 1: You gotta move around, be versatile in the secondary. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying give up right on Andrewson dejo or any
Speaker 1: of the other guys in the secondary, but you get
Speaker 1: another piece because look like, let's be honest, like how
Speaker 1: many years of Cleveland Browns contending do you really get?
Speaker 1: So yeah, move moving Joku for whatever pick you wanted
Speaker 1: to take the place at another piece in the secondary.
Speaker 1: While you've got Myles Garrett playing in a defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year level, and just just see what you
Speaker 1: can do. You know, you've got this kind of neutered
Speaker 1: offense right now. Maybe you get jobbed back and you
Speaker 1: you become like this defensive team, uh that that can
Speaker 1: try to do something, you know, make a run where
Speaker 1: we added a playoff spot, let's do it. I like
Speaker 1: the idea because they they're in there bye week, so
Speaker 1: you'd have time to acclimate that works in the COVID,
Speaker 1: you know, waiting window of that business. Um they're from
Speaker 1: office seemed like just completely intent not to do anything,
Speaker 1: but especially at safety where I mean sendejo um has
Speaker 1: been a huge liability. Actually, week after week I thought
Speaker 1: they might go after Anthony Harris of the Vikings. Um,
Speaker 1: you know there are some shared DNA ties with the
Speaker 1: Fansky and others, and he would have fit in well,
Speaker 1: but they were very inactive. Well I don't I'm not
Speaker 1: shared DNA in terms of career, Dan. I mean that's
Speaker 1: how we meant us that on the show. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you use it. You explain how you why
Speaker 1: that offended your Why explain why that got you up
Speaker 1: in arms. Mike's cutting out, I can't. I can't expanse
Speaker 1: literally like literally sound bite and the whole thing goes
Speaker 1: off the rails. I like it. Kareem Jackson is a
Speaker 1: is a beast. Watching him last week just laying out Chargers,
Speaker 1: it was like, it's sometimes it's unsafe to be around
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson, like he was putting people in the hospital
Speaker 1: last week. All right, Mark, close it up. I will
Speaker 1: give you a quick thing with no with literally no
Speaker 1: UM analysis at all. Alden Smith to the Seahawks. I
Speaker 1: could just see it. But this is what kind of
Speaker 1: stuck with me. If you really wanted to shake up
Speaker 1: things up for two teams that's still be leaving themselves
Speaker 1: and these are two teams that are playoff hopefuls, but
Speaker 1: have major identity assues. It is the Bears and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: So what you do is you switch coaching staffs from
Speaker 1: top to bottom. Okay, Doug Peterson goes to New York
Speaker 1: and he's paired back again with Nick Foles and also
Speaker 1: in to Chicago. He got Sorry, but Doug Peterson goes
Speaker 1: to Chicago and he gets Nick Foles, Matt Nagy and
Speaker 1: Andy reidoff shoot also goes to Philly. Both staffs I think,
Speaker 1: get a massive fresh start. Jim Schwartz gets a good
Speaker 1: Bears defense, Chuck Bagano a good Philly defense. We went
Speaker 1: and Foles needs some life, They need some new activity,
Speaker 1: and they're invariably gonna meet in the playoffs, which now
Speaker 1: flipped opposing coaching staffs. That's how you turn and Eagles
Speaker 1: in the playoffs scenario into something that has a lot
Speaker 1: of bizarre storylines. I would watch that game. Let's just
Speaker 1: trade the teams themselves well, because him like Matt Nagy
Speaker 1: with the Bears is killing me. But if maybe he
Speaker 1: goes just you give him a whole new world trade.
Speaker 1: For the Eagles, you trade a guy with a statue
Speaker 1: outside uh and Jim Schwartz for for Matt Maggie. He
Speaker 1: already traded a guy with a statue outside. I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna say, just how about trade Wentz for
Speaker 1: falls and like a first round pick, Now that would
Speaker 1: be sassy. That's interesting too. I like that well, I
Speaker 1: never thought of like if Wentz got traded a mid
Speaker 1: first round pick with that doesn't seem like enough. But
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a first and a second. It's
Speaker 1: been a bad year, Carson Wentz. We'll get into that
Speaker 1: more on the Thursday preview show. All right, let's hit
Speaker 1: someone in football. Looking for the tie two point conversion
Speaker 1: shotgun Jones looks to his right, throws to his right,
Speaker 1: and it is broken up. Trying to hit Louis flagged
Speaker 1: down Antswine. Winsfield thought he won the bat penalty marker
Speaker 1: on the play and here different. Yeah, hold on, but
Speaker 1: you know you could take Tom Brady out of New England.
Speaker 1: He's still going to catch the brakes, you know. Antoine
Speaker 1: Limfield Jr. Goes streaking across the end zone, knocks away
Speaker 1: the two point attempt from Daniel Jones balls a little
Speaker 1: bit behind his intended receiver and a little bit late.
Speaker 1: But that was the nature of this game. Bucks beat
Speaker 1: the Giants at the meadow Lands, a game where I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were surprised that the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: didn't just roll up the Giants. But New York has
Speaker 1: been shown a little bit of fight the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, but they keep on getting beaten a heartbreaking
Speaker 1: in fashion, and and mark this game without it turning
Speaker 1: into a complete pile on here. But this game really
Speaker 1: is different. If Daniel Jones is just competent, if he
Speaker 1: if he hits on a couple of open throws downfield,
Speaker 1: if he makes the right decision with a ball when
Speaker 1: the pass rushes on him, if he even makes that
Speaker 1: throw on time on the two point conversion, the Giants
Speaker 1: have an upset win. But instead your left answering, wondering
Speaker 1: about whether he is the guy in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Dan, I know that you text with Giants fans
Speaker 1: back East regularly. I do the same with a great
Speaker 1: friend of mine. And like we were just it's a
Speaker 1: roller it's a human roller coaster ride with Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: because for a couple of minutes we were texting aboutw
Speaker 1: you've got to go get another quarterback, forget the forty
Speaker 1: game rule because forty games puts you week twelve of
Speaker 1: next season, and I just think this is who Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is. But then a couple of minutes later, he
Speaker 1: does something that kind of makes you think, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: he is a special athlete when he's on. There was
Speaker 1: this one, I mean, there's a bad play where I
Speaker 1: thought that, and they pointed out that he missed what
Speaker 1: would have been a clear touchdown on one side of
Speaker 1: the field and he whips it for the other direction
Speaker 1: interception Carlton Davis. We saw the miss balls deep, but
Speaker 1: then we saw it at the fourth quarter the way
Speaker 1: that he made connections and converted third and third and
Speaker 1: fourth downs. That gave me a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1: So ultimately I'm left utterly confused. Um, I really think
Speaker 1: that Joe Judge gave me an idea that I stick
Speaker 1: with Joe Judge. There's something about him and what he
Speaker 1: does for the Giants that they have not had under
Speaker 1: their previous coaches. But with Daniel Jones, I'm left be
Speaker 1: fuddled as to what to say about him other than
Speaker 1: I think he is this hot and cold roller coaster ride.
Speaker 1: Where where's the highs? Though? I mean they were there
Speaker 1: last beautiful throws here and there, not last night, not
Speaker 1: last night. That was a that was a disaster, and
Speaker 1: they were giving him a lot of credit for that
Speaker 1: last drive. It reminded me so much of the Sam
Speaker 1: Donald seen Ghost scheme because Jones was like kind of
Speaker 1: begging to just be pulled out of the game or
Speaker 1: for it to end. That last drive was a nightmare.
Speaker 1: He he almost threw four interceptions on that drive alone.
Speaker 1: There was the fourth down play and this is the
Speaker 1: play where it killed me, where he event they picked
Speaker 1: up the fourth down, but there's three guys rushing, there's
Speaker 1: absolutely no one around him, and he just starts running around,
Speaker 1: almost runs into the sack, totally panic, doesn't wait for
Speaker 1: guys to get open, and and he's just not there
Speaker 1: and kind of like the same Ghost game. It was.
Speaker 1: It's the game that got me thinking like this, this
Speaker 1: might not this might not happen, this might not work.
Speaker 1: I was very high on Daniel Jones coming into this
Speaker 1: year because I did see the highs last year. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'm not seeing it now, just whether it's confidence
Speaker 1: or or what it is. He's so scrambled mentally and
Speaker 1: and and mostly physically too, like it's not like he's
Speaker 1: been accurate, which is which is what you would you
Speaker 1: would want out of him. It was tough, like if
Speaker 1: they had a better backup, I think would not hurt
Speaker 1: to give him a week or two off. And people
Speaker 1: were wondering, like, Greg, I saw your tweet about the
Speaker 1: third down and we had exchanged tweets about what Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett was calling on third downs, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: probably hard to call plays for Daniel Jones when we
Speaker 1: talked about Jamis Daniel Jones is basically Jamis Winston and
Speaker 1: his willing us to give the ball to the other team.
Speaker 1: And you want to pinpoint the highs, but the problem is,
Speaker 1: like it's you know, the scores at the end of
Speaker 1: the game are cumulative, right, Like, it's not the seven
Speaker 1: points in the first quarters the same as seven points
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And you Dan, you mentioned the
Speaker 1: throw to Slayton, Like if you take out the Derek
Speaker 1: Carr pass to Henry Ruggs over the weekend where like
Speaker 1: a gale force wind blew it forty yards out of bounds,
Speaker 1: that that was the worst pass attempt all all week. Uh,
Speaker 1: the stats running wide opens probably a touchdown and he
Speaker 1: just he airmails it's nowhere clothes from a clean pocket,
Speaker 1: and it's just you have to be able to succeed
Speaker 1: in those circumstances, and he just he didn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll say this because I I know where Mark Marks
Speaker 1: coming from on this too, because he knows Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: is fully aware that he's having a bad game, and
Speaker 1: he knows he's in prime time, and he knows his
Speaker 1: pressure starting to build on him, with maybe internally in
Speaker 1: the organization, is certainly with the fans. That route of
Speaker 1: the Giants. It showed me a little something that he
Speaker 1: kept coming and and didn't completely fold up the tent.
Speaker 1: The touchdown past the Golden Tate was a beautiful throw.
Speaker 1: I think he does have the skill set, but I
Speaker 1: think it's it's a confidence thing more than anything else
Speaker 1: right now, where he was trying to just make things happen,
Speaker 1: and and you know that's a rookie or a young
Speaker 1: quarterback mistake. So I don't want to completely write them up,
Speaker 1: but the Giants are kind of starting to edge now
Speaker 1: into that territory of the Jets, only it's a year
Speaker 1: sooner where it's like, all right, we there are things
Speaker 1: we like about this kid, and there are things that
Speaker 1: make us super nervous and we might be picking number
Speaker 1: one or number two in this draft. Uh, that's a
Speaker 1: tough spot for the Giants and the and whoever is
Speaker 1: making the decisions. It won't be Dave Gettlman. Well, you're
Speaker 1: not going to let the Jets and probably Washington goes
Speaker 1: select franchise quarterbacks while Dave Gettleman takes a right guard.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you have the opportunity to upgrade
Speaker 1: and there is not going to be there, if they're
Speaker 1: in the top three of the draft, right right on you,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Is this like he's going to correct all
Speaker 1: these problems? Did I see a couple of good throws
Speaker 1: last night? Do I see someone that can make all
Speaker 1: the throws but seems completely confused and isn't is in
Speaker 1: an offense where he's losing confidence? Yes? But am I
Speaker 1: gonna like say that he is not on any level
Speaker 1: like athletically fit to be a pro quarterback. I won't
Speaker 1: say that. Like I did see some good things, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in a very functional offense first
Speaker 1: of all. And I don't know the coaching did an
Speaker 1: awesome job last night. The running game was awesome. They
Speaker 1: were playing the number one, So you're basically you're done
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones at this point, you're done with him.
Speaker 1: I went in super high, but I think he's imploding.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the worst quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 1: So you gotta do something about right now because this
Speaker 1: team is competitive. I think I just mean of like
Speaker 1: a regular starter coming into the year, him, Him and
Speaker 1: Donald would be the would be the two picks. He's
Speaker 1: lost right now, and you have to figure a way
Speaker 1: out of that. I mean that that game was one
Speaker 1: a million times by their receivers, and their offensive line
Speaker 1: played well and their defense played great. The only reason
Speaker 1: they lost that game was because of Daniel Jones. There
Speaker 1: was a tough game for him, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: On the other side of the all the Bucks, I
Speaker 1: think it's uh, you know, I kept them, for instance,
Speaker 1: at number three behind the Steelers and Chiefs in the
Speaker 1: power rankings this week. Uh. And then people are getting
Speaker 1: on me, Oh, they barely beat the Giants and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. This is a long season in our league,
Speaker 1: and what happens is every once in a while you
Speaker 1: don't play so hot. But if you're a good team,
Speaker 1: you still find a way to win. So, yes, should
Speaker 1: you be a little disappointed that they were kind of
Speaker 1: sleep walking through this game? And maybe those Danny Dimes
Speaker 1: interceptions are the only reason they didn't sleep walk straight
Speaker 1: to a loss. Sure, but they won, so I kind
Speaker 1: of give them a pass, And I'm still hyper confident
Speaker 1: and high on them as they head into a huge
Speaker 1: Saints matchup on Sunday night, and they're only gonna get better. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, as much as the broadcast discussed Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: he's he's still the reason he's coming to the game
Speaker 1: him is because he's he's a good football player. So
Speaker 1: they're gonna get better on offense. God Win make it back.
Speaker 1: They they'll be really scary and Todd bowls the job
Speaker 1: that he's done with the defense. Um, they're just a
Speaker 1: really good football team, a really solid football team. That's
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem in January to somebody. I mean,
Speaker 1: Gronk is becoming a better factor week after week. I
Speaker 1: mean that I question three weeks ago if you would
Speaker 1: be and he's scored multiple times. You could see Brady
Speaker 1: going for him, and they bench, They essentially bench Rojo
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones and four Net. Well, I don't think four
Speaker 1: nets anything great at all, But I mean they've got
Speaker 1: a couple of guys they can use. Scottie Miller's picking
Speaker 1: it up and and like, you know, not to go
Speaker 1: back to Daniel Jones. But their defense is one that's
Speaker 1: going to confuse quarterbacks. Their secondary has sixty five. They
Speaker 1: have sixty five points off haikaways this year. That's second
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, this is one of the
Speaker 1: few defenses you can count on to mess up the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Yeah, I think I am
Speaker 1: with you Dan that I'm not worried about that game
Speaker 1: last night. I think the Giants have played sneaky good
Speaker 1: for a while. Almost the whole season. They've they've looked
Speaker 1: like a better, more competitive team overall. And it was
Speaker 1: not the bucks best night Brady has been. You know,
Speaker 1: had some tough days against Patrick Graham. I keep I've
Speaker 1: I've said it a few times. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: dynasty ended in Week seventeen last year when Graham came
Speaker 1: in there and and with Flora's helped cook up Brady
Speaker 1: pretty good mentally as the coordinator of the uh the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and UH he had he had Brady a little confused.
Speaker 1: They're not the same without Chris Godwin. I do think
Speaker 1: you saw, like possibly one little problem with this team
Speaker 1: last night is the loss of thet of a starting
Speaker 1: to show up because their biggest weakness, it's amazing this
Speaker 1: is their biggest weakness is their past rushing. On paper,
Speaker 1: it looks good, but jpp in in in shack Barrett
Speaker 1: really aren't having great years. Uh and opposing quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: a lot of time and it's an aggressive defense, so
Speaker 1: you can try to beat him over the top. I mean,
Speaker 1: every team's got some issues, but I think that's that's
Speaker 1: something that other NFC teams like the Packers, for instance,
Speaker 1: with a great old line and great quarterback, can maybe
Speaker 1: take advantage of what if they ever got a rematch.
Speaker 1: I did think it was an interesting commentary, A commentary
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones from Bruce Areans that he was able
Speaker 1: to like put Rojo in the dog house while for
Speaker 1: Nette was kind of being inconsequential. I think he ended
Speaker 1: up with like three point eight yards per carry. I
Speaker 1: think that was Bruce Arians saying, I can I can
Speaker 1: still punish this guy and not play my guy who's
Speaker 1: been tearing up the league because I'm not super worried
Speaker 1: about the Giants here and he shouldn't there. All right,
Speaker 1: there you go Monday. And by the way, the Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football telecast, Um, I have I have a couple
Speaker 1: of takes. I have. I have one take and Greg,
Speaker 1: you mentioned something before the show. I love the graphics.
Speaker 1: I love the visuals of Monday Night Football. ESPN has
Speaker 1: done a nice job. It looks very clean. UM way
Speaker 1: into that. So after a couple of years of that
Speaker 1: telecast getting killed, I just want to say I like that.
Speaker 1: I even like the dope uh little graphic things with
Speaker 1: like when they had uh Breeze and Brady on the
Speaker 1: Seesaw with Peyton manning that computer graphics. I'm into that.
Speaker 1: Um So, I just want to say I'm enjoying the
Speaker 1: visual of Monday Night Football, even if I didn't enjoy
Speaker 1: the grease man Bryan Greasy with the following quote, Tom
Speaker 1: genuinely wants to see guys succeed. I truly believe that,
Speaker 1: and he's doing the same thing with Antonio Brown. I. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak of the fame Sessler Greasy
Speaker 1: incident that may have colored my relationship with uh As
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. But there was the moment where Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones basically PEG's winfield in the back on the two
Speaker 1: point conversion that would have tied the game, and Greasy's like,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is a winner, and it was Tom Brady
Speaker 1: over there using a mind trick, the four Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: at thor horrible fast. So of course I joke about it,
Speaker 1: and I've got angry Brady defenders assuming that I'm you know,
Speaker 1: why did why did Greg get on you like that?
Speaker 1: That was now Greasy Greasy a former teammate of Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So not not totally on mission guy and uh last
Speaker 1: night and there's there's lots to praise tom Brady about.
Speaker 1: Last night was not his best game or the passing
Speaker 1: games best game. It was the defense setting them up
Speaker 1: like it's okay to call a spade of space. And
Speaker 1: I think they've been doing that. I've been enjoying this
Speaker 1: Monday Night crew. Um more. As the season's going along,
Speaker 1: I think they're getting their footing. They're put in a
Speaker 1: tough spot. You know, it's a new crew, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of eyes on them. I think they're
Speaker 1: getting more comfortable. It's a it's a solid watch. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that like in the past, you these
Speaker 1: guys were given years. Like I think when like Chris
Speaker 1: Fowler and Kirk curb Street did Week one, and my
Speaker 1: my notation was, I know, these guys are a one
Speaker 1: week thing for pros and then they go back to college.
Speaker 1: But they've been doing it so long that they just
Speaker 1: had this natural chemistry. And asking these three man booths
Speaker 1: to come in and have that right away as a
Speaker 1: big ask. And it's also happening in a terrible environment where,
Speaker 1: like you know, Steve Leaves trending after the game, everyone's trying.
Speaker 1: You say one false word and you're getting killed. That said,
Speaker 1: your announcing money in a football The rope is short,
Speaker 1: I mean, so you better find that chemistry quick. We
Speaker 1: gotta check with Andrew Marshant to the New York Post.
Speaker 1: Who is I find him to be the greatest media
Speaker 1: reporter out there on Twitter right now. He founds out
Speaker 1: about stuff that happens at our shop before we do.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I want has been on our show
Speaker 1: and his his brother is a listener, so that's cool too.
Speaker 1: We love the whole Marshawn Klan. I want to see
Speaker 1: if they're still looking at this team is a as
Speaker 1: a rental until they can go get some high profile
Speaker 1: talent or if they're getting a legit audition right now.
Speaker 1: We love that stuff. We talked about it typically in
Speaker 1: the off season. But a little nug there, little combo
Speaker 1: on a on an election day before we say goodbye, uh,
Speaker 1: Thursday night football, Let's turn our attention now to week nine. Here,
Speaker 1: we are all the way to week nine and we
Speaker 1: hit it's Packers at Niners on a short week. Uh
Speaker 1: obviously for both teams, and uh we talked about the
Speaker 1: Niners plenty here and the tough situation there in now
Speaker 1: schedule is really an uphill climb. And now they don't
Speaker 1: have their quarterback or their best player on the field.
Speaker 1: They already lost their best defensive player uh in Nick
Speaker 1: Bosa a couple of weeks ago. Uh So the Niners
Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble. What do you think
Speaker 1: about this game? Mark the Packers coming off a disturbing
Speaker 1: loss and in their own right on Sunday, I think
Speaker 1: the I mean, the biggest news item is that Coronas
Speaker 1: hit this game too. That there's you know, rap Report,
Speaker 1: and Rapp Report mentioned that there's pessimism Aaron Jones will
Speaker 1: play because of this calf injury. Uh, they don't have
Speaker 1: a j. Dillon because of a positive Corona step test,
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams and Kamal Martin. Jamal Williams, another running back,
Speaker 1: is a high risk close contacts. So you've got Tyler
Speaker 1: Irvin and Dexter Williams in the backfield. They have a
Speaker 1: combined fifteen carries in the NFL. That worries me less
Speaker 1: than if it was a Benda Nucci being rolled in,
Speaker 1: because running backs sometimes just be able to kind of
Speaker 1: make it work. But again, it's another game that we're
Speaker 1: not you know, six weeks from now, we won't look
Speaker 1: at the result and remember some of the positive tests.
Speaker 1: But it impacts an offense. And I think they've missed
Speaker 1: Darren Jones a little bit. I mean, and there's certainly
Speaker 1: gonna Jamal Williams has stepped in and been pretty good.
Speaker 1: But to take them both out, I mean, that's not
Speaker 1: They want to be able to run the ball, and
Speaker 1: then you're really compromised on that front. If if if
Speaker 1: Jimmy g and Kittle were in this game, I'd picked
Speaker 1: the forty Niners just because I think the matchup is
Speaker 1: so perfect against this run defense that of the Packers
Speaker 1: that everyone just is crushing pet petting for with good reason.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect matchup for Kyle Shann to kind of
Speaker 1: have one of those scheme games. I wouldn't surprise me
Speaker 1: at the forty nine Ers. The zombie forty Niners still
Speaker 1: find a way to win some of these games down
Speaker 1: the stretch, but they always right, he can. He can
Speaker 1: come up with the scheme game and in the right matchup.
Speaker 1: But now it's not it's not just Jimmy G. Nick
Speaker 1: mollins is gonna start. It's weird that I think losing
Speaker 1: Kiddle and Deebo and Deebo Samuel is indeed out for
Speaker 1: this game again. You know, it's bigger even then losing
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. De mullins um because then it's just there's
Speaker 1: not enough things. You also don't have Moster and Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman in the running game either, but there's there's not
Speaker 1: enough things. And you could even argue like over the
Speaker 1: course of this season, losing both the Ford and then Buckler,
Speaker 1: who they traded, has been a bigger impact on the
Speaker 1: forty Niners than any of these offensive injuries because they
Speaker 1: just don't have a pass rush that can scare you anymore.
Speaker 1: And you would think against Aaron Rodgers and this Packers
Speaker 1: offensive line, and that's that spells doom. What what Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan does so much as maximized the talent, right, But
Speaker 1: when you when you've used the talent? Right? So how
Speaker 1: does all that? How do you like? How many reverses
Speaker 1: can Brandon Ayouk run? Uh? And I really think, honestly,
Speaker 1: like the broken foot, the Debot came back from he
Speaker 1: came back so fast from it. Um, you know they
Speaker 1: got We've seen dez uh Sammy Watkins in the past
Speaker 1: lose whole seasons to that. I was surprised Debot came back.
Speaker 1: He looked the steps slow. Um, so they've just they've
Speaker 1: been going through it. So it's it's hard to not
Speaker 1: pick uh. You know, the Packers in this revenge situation
Speaker 1: against the team that just demolished them, just ran right
Speaker 1: over them. They had no answers for in the playoffs. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, if I believed in looking ahead to an opponent,
Speaker 1: I guess I would call that here have happened. I
Speaker 1: think Dalvin Cook just dominated them. But I mean that's
Speaker 1: what happened to the playoffs. They got ran over. It's
Speaker 1: just you know, is Ja Michael Hasty going to run
Speaker 1: over this team to then it'll be close. I really
Speaker 1: bet it'll be close. I don't know what they're saying
Speaker 1: in the desert right now, but uh, they're saying, we
Speaker 1: want to make money, that we're going to whatever we say.
Speaker 1: Packers have their problems to they're not quite getting the
Speaker 1: same juice upfront from from the Smith brothers, who are
Speaker 1: not brothers. Um, you know, they they're they're not quite.
Speaker 1: They're not a perfect team either. I would have I
Speaker 1: would have loved to see this game with everyone healthy.
Speaker 1: It's annoying, you know, Greg, every Smith though, is a
Speaker 1: brother on some level because at one point someone named
Speaker 1: Smith was the first Smith. Well then we're all, if
Speaker 1: you really want to look at it, especially now in
Speaker 1: this moment in time, we're all brothers, you know, we
Speaker 1: all blade red. Hopefully I've never felt closer to you
Speaker 1: at the end. You know what, By the way, claybron
Speaker 1: you are obviously a voice of reason typically on social
Speaker 1: media with you know, things like sports cliches. But I
Speaker 1: will not be here and stand down as you say
Speaker 1: that trap games don't exist. Trap games absolutely exist, and
Speaker 1: for you to casually assert that they don't minutes ago,
Speaker 1: that will not stand on this show. And it was.
Speaker 1: It was a minute in twenty six seconds ago. And yes,
Speaker 1: trap games are not a thing. You play the people
Speaker 1: that you're playing against, and nobody, like a ball is
Speaker 1: not in the air and you're like, wow, I got
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson next week. It's not literal subconscious. It's a
Speaker 1: subcontent in the mind. Banned Tanucci is done in Texas
Speaker 1: that he never steps foot in Gerald world ever again.
Speaker 1: That happened in the luxury suite. That's why he's not playing.
Speaker 1: It's okay, Ben, we're back to back to Bay Ridge
Speaker 1: with Benny the Lucci. She should be shining the glasses.
Speaker 1: I found him a roll right there. You got a job.
Speaker 1: I bet he could make about a hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: grand a year shining in the glass. I'll shine the
Speaker 1: glasses if that's what's the prices. All right, good stuff,
Speaker 1: Patrick claybron you're a prince. Beards looking very sharp as
Speaker 1: well right now. That would probably be my reaction to
Speaker 1: us doing this show and be like I have a beard.
Speaker 1: That's the big takeaway. Um, yes, we'll be back on Thursday.
Speaker 1: The world is gonna be a little bit different or
Speaker 1: exactly the same. We shall see. But thank you to
Speaker 1: everyone for listening. And and Ricky Hollywood, how are you?
Speaker 1: By the way, I've been noticing you because I could
Speaker 1: see you when you're just, you know, producing, lounging on
Speaker 1: the bed. Today you're petting the dog. I didn't seem
Speaker 1: like you're paying that close attention. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I know you're a woman that can multitask, so maybe
Speaker 1: you were. Yeah, I've been paying great attention, so exactly
Speaker 1: like someone says when they weren't playing attention. And you
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