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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcasta football Welcome to another edition

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas,

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Speaker 1: coming to you from a virtual room filled with hero

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and Patrick Clayborne. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Who I mean? You know, big day, trade deadline, that's

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Speaker 1: nothing else, that's it, that's it. We were yes today.

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Speaker 1: Of course we were recording on the day of the

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Speaker 1: general election for the United States of America. Um I

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Speaker 1: I had been told during one of the game telecasts

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Speaker 1: this week that Tuesday was a day off for the

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Speaker 1: entire NFL company. But I have been working since seven am,

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Speaker 1: so that feels as if it needs to be modified

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Speaker 1: to give a more thorough understanding of who is offen

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Speaker 1: who is working. I still get emails from the New

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Speaker 1: York office because I took the job when I lived

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Speaker 1: that office once a week. And yeah, I do like

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Speaker 1: getting on days like today. They're like, well, if you

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Speaker 1: really knew need to get into the building, they give

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Speaker 1: you certain instructions and stuff. And I'm thinking, these these

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Speaker 1: New York fat cats real work is like, at some

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Speaker 1: point you made the decision to be you know, a sportswriter,

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Speaker 1: someone who covers football as an adult um and a

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Speaker 1: blogger instead of like a corporate hack. And so corporate

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Speaker 1: hacks get these days off. We remain steadfast in our duties.

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Speaker 1: They can actually get in the building, all the corporate

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Speaker 1: hacks out there. We have to like email six people

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Speaker 1: and demonstrate an absolute need to get into the building,

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Speaker 1: and then like, it's like, are you sure we could

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Speaker 1: have somebody rough rifle through your things and bring them

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Speaker 1: to you in a plastic bag via fed X in

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Speaker 1: six weeks. It's like, no, I would, I would like

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Speaker 1: to have you know, my stapler or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: NFL Film sent me something on March twelve that I

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Speaker 1: believe is sitting on my desk, and I'm about to

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Speaker 1: pull like mission impossible, Tom Cruise at the top of

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Speaker 1: an Asian skyscraper. Move to get in there. Anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: worth it. And you had beers on your desk too,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, why not you know to you those

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Speaker 1: beers from Germany or so Yeah, I thought, okay, sorry, anyway, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's election day and we were I would say firmly

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Speaker 1: reminded too, U be civil and not not get too

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Speaker 1: hardcore and sharing that realm of our personalities and opinions.

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Speaker 1: But we hope that everyone has voted. And uh, I

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Speaker 1: do remember four years ago when we did the show

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Speaker 1: right after the election. That was an interesting show. Today's

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Speaker 1: show is right on the eve of the election, and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, there's some butterflies. Let's face it, this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a wild night for this country. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep the focus on football right now. Patrick, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: By the way, I was gonna in the Claibon house tonight.

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Speaker 1: I'm living the dream. You know. We we have the

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Speaker 1: you know, the the child who is dealing with the

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Speaker 1: running knows which is Defcon five here. Uh so he's

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Speaker 1: hanging out with us. We'll go get the little one

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Speaker 1: and uh you know, we're honestly, we're okay. Uh We're

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Speaker 1: just we're watching the results for everybody else. We got

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Speaker 1: a lot of we we got a lot of family,

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Speaker 1: uh in in Alabama. So we're we're watching there and

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Speaker 1: we're good, you know, no matter what, we got each

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Speaker 1: other and uh, if everything goes down, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: we we had a good run. All right, let's get

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Speaker 1: into it. Um. The trade deadline just passed as we

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Speaker 1: see DeAndre Washington. Uh, the Dolphins acquired that running back

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Speaker 1: in exchange for a seventh round pick. Uh. There were

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Speaker 1: That's that those were the deadline deals. However, a little

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Speaker 1: a couple of years now, that the trade deadline had

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Speaker 1: then it's not quite worth it. Mark, would you like

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Speaker 1: I think it's also there are a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: I'm always pinpointing that app but it's every all. It's

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Speaker 1: a team like the Saints, they're going for broke. But

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Speaker 1: here's why a lot of teams in the middle. It's

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Speaker 1: our fault though, because it's great. It's good content, not ours,

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Speaker 1: like the four of us, but just the quote unquote

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Speaker 1: media because we we do tons of trade deadline content

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to read about it. It's fun. And so

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Speaker 1: then the fans get like a rationally, they get their

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Speaker 1: let's if they didn't well, if they if they didn't

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Speaker 1: discussions regarding will Fuller there. Um, you know, there's just

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Speaker 1: him for not a ton of value. Yeah, they get

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Speaker 1: tackle for the year, and then Marlon Humphrey are all

427
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Speaker 1: pro corner announces that he has contracted the coronavirus and

428
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Speaker 1: as a results, seven close contacts of Humphrey that from

429
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Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero added to the COVID nineteen list. Uh, just

430
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Speaker 1: a very tough situation and COVID is it's really the

431
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Speaker 1: wave is coming. I mean, it's been happen. It's been

432
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Speaker 1: a rolling wave in this country and this world for

433
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Speaker 1: months now, but in the NFL realm, you feel like

434
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: it's there's a tidal wave building here. Well, it's it's

435
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Speaker 1: back to you know, June where we kept saying if

436
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Speaker 1: it's happening in the country, it's gonna be happening in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. And we're at record numbers now in the country.

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Speaker 1: So I am. I am concerned obviously, not just about

439
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Speaker 1: everyone who's contracting the virus, but just just the how

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Speaker 1: likely it is to finish sixty games for all these teams.

441
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Speaker 1: It seems to get tough for each week. Now when

442
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: it comes to the Ravens now we've become experts that

443
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: we know that these close contacts have five days to

444
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Speaker 1: get off of it, which in you know, if you

445
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Speaker 1: do the math, they could all be eligible to play

446
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Speaker 1: on Sunday except for Humphrey. Um, but we'll have to

447
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Speaker 1: wait and see. Yes, certainly, yeah, go ahead, Mark, No,

448
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Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. I was just gonna say, certainly

449
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Speaker 1: more concerned about the virus. As Greg mentioned, when you're

450
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Speaker 1: nearing a hundred thousand cases a day. Uh, those are

451
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Speaker 1: gonna exist in football, They're gonna exist in the postal

452
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Speaker 1: service everywhere, uh where people are are out and they're

453
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Speaker 1: around people. Um But in terms of concerns, losing Stanley

454
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Speaker 1: definitely hurts. But you know, they lost a game on

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Speaker 1: a Monday night to the defending champions, and then there's

456
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Speaker 1: the only undefeated team in the league and there's an

457
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Speaker 1: incompletion in literally the very last play of the game.

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Speaker 1: I'm not super concerned going back to seventy two and

459
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Speaker 1: not like teams win every game. Uh So, I still

460
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Speaker 1: think this Baltimore Ravens team, Uh, you know, is a

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Speaker 1: real problem for the a f C. I mean, look

462
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Speaker 1: at the players that if, for instance, this five day

463
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Speaker 1: window doesn't get they don't get out of this five

464
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Speaker 1: day window. You've got four five linebackers that are being

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Speaker 1: sequestered right now. Or put it. You know, quarantine sequestered,

466
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Speaker 1: isn't the incorrect term. I mean, that's that would be

467
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Speaker 1: very problematic. I mean football in general. They are luckier

468
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Speaker 1: than the Skies that these games in general happen every

469
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Speaker 1: seven days for these teams, because this, this is the

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Speaker 1: kind of thing that would wreak ultra havoc if football

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Speaker 1: happened every three or four days. You've got full position

472
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Speaker 1: groups right now, no matter whether they play or not,

473
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Speaker 1: they will not practice all week. And now that probably

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Speaker 1: for some teams is lesser of an issue for the

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Speaker 1: Ravens than it would be for others. But that is

476
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Speaker 1: a inequality, and these inequalities have added up for certain teams.

477
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Speaker 1: But we kind of forget about it. We're just looking

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Speaker 1: at the win loss record. I mean, it's it's messy

479
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Speaker 1: and there's something there is a little bit of an

480
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Speaker 1: ominous aura to it as well. We have two months

481
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Speaker 1: remaining in the regular season, right Look at MLB there,

482
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Speaker 1: I know they played in the summer, and it's a

483
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Speaker 1: different situation with COVID. They survived the regular season by

484
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Speaker 1: the skin of their teeth without using a bubble. As

485
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Speaker 1: soon as the playoff hits, they got inside a bubble,

486
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Speaker 1: and they were able to get through the season without

487
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Speaker 1: any COVID issues until the Justin Turner incident in the

488
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Speaker 1: deciding game of the World Series. So almost perfect, but

489
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Speaker 1: not quite there, I guess. I guess I'd be kind

490
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Speaker 1: of shocked if they don't have some type of bubble

491
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Speaker 1: situation in place at some point the season. It feels like,

492
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Speaker 1: as as my mom would say, you're spitting in the

493
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Speaker 1: skoy and waiting for something terrible it happened. What does

494
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Speaker 1: that mean? Well, don't you don't spit in the sky.

495
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Speaker 1: You don't say things, You don't put things out there

496
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Speaker 1: in the universe that you don't want to come back

497
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Speaker 1: on you. Um, but yeah, and my mom doesn't talk

498
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Speaker 1: like that either. But I like to enhance the uh

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Speaker 1: the queen's accent. Don't spit in the skoy all right.

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Speaker 1: Other COVID news cowboys place uh Andy Dalton on the

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Speaker 1: COVID list. Are you gotta you gotta be kidding? Thankfully,

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Speaker 1: according to a todd to report, he's not Oh, he's

503
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Speaker 1: not asymptomatic. That's a that is not a good choice

504
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: cluster of words. I misread that that means he has symptoms, right,

505
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Speaker 1: if you're not asymptomatic to say his symptoms, what are

506
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Speaker 1: we doing here? Anyway? Bad news for Dalton who it

507
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: could not be going worse his Cowboys season plays poorly,

508
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: Ben gets concussed and now has the COVID. So Ben Denucci,

509
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Speaker 1: you would think we'd get another start, But now we're

510
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Speaker 1: hearing that he was so poor on Sunday Night football

511
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Speaker 1: that they might be bringing somebody off the street to

512
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Speaker 1: start that game. The Cowboys are absolutely in the running

513
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Speaker 1: for the number one overall pick and they're playing the Steelers.

514
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Speaker 1: So whoever you put out there is not going to

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Speaker 1: be thankful for the opportunity. I would are they in

516
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Speaker 1: the running that? I mean the Jets gotta win two games.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the Jets are as much in the

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Speaker 1: running for oh and sixteen. Well, no, the Jets are

519
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Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse. But if you are sitting

520
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Speaker 1: on they have two wins, right, and do you see

521
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Speaker 1: another win on the schedule? They could be told I

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Speaker 1: would have been with you, Greg before I saw the

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Speaker 1: Benda Nucci game on Sunday Night that it did not

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Speaker 1: inspire confidence. Well, I don't mean two and fourteen is

525
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Speaker 1: on the table, although they do have you know games

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Speaker 1: in this this uh terrible division left, but in two

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Speaker 1: and fourteen is very on the table. I guess I

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Speaker 1: would if if we were going to do a sandwich,

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Speaker 1: I'd put the Jets final record right at one and

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Speaker 1: fifteen probably would be my Well, you also don't need

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Speaker 1: like you don't need the number one overall pick to

532
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Speaker 1: be in you know, a gold position. Come draft. It

533
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Speaker 1: does go back. I think we talked about it last week.

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Speaker 1: We're throwing out different theories for some silly game we

535
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Speaker 1: were doing. What if the Cowboys have an opportunity to

536
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Speaker 1: bring Justin Fields or some other hot shot into their building,

537
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Speaker 1: would they would they have the gall to hit a

538
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Speaker 1: complete reset? I mean, hold on, Jerry Jones was into

539
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzielle when Tony Romo was the quarterback, So I

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Speaker 1: would put nothing past. They said all the right things,

541
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Speaker 1: and they always say all the right things. But suddenly

542
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Speaker 1: that opportunity where Trevor for Trevor Lawrence came to the

543
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Yes, they would consider it heavily and probably

544
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Speaker 1: go in that direction. I think they say the right

545
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: things unless you're Ben Denucci, poor guy, if listening to

546
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Speaker 1: Dallas radio, this morning heard and the owner, his owner,

547
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, saying that, well, this guy just wasn't ready

548
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Speaker 1: for it. You know, it's just buried Denucci. As if

549
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: Nucci is the biggest part of their problem. Could you

550
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Speaker 1: even imagine if you miked up the luxury suite during

551
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: that game, like, look, who's the guy that cleans his glasses?

552
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Speaker 1: Stephen Jones goes that boy ain't ever starting another game

553
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: for the Star. You hear me, that boy is dumb.

554
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: What's the what's the skit with the shining the glasses business?

555
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: That's that they're fine with that? Okay, well that happened.

556
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: That was Stephen Jones. By the way, it's like the

557
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: other offshoot child very absolutely in the running for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: It is in their mission statement. It's been new she

559
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: sees the football field again. Was it the Eric Trump

560
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: of the Jerry Jones family? It was? It was a

561
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: great I thought it was a grandson, but I could

562
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: be wrong. Maybe it was a son in law. Alright,

563
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: let's let's please, let's move on. Let's come on tracks here.

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Speaker 1: Um all right, another COVID with one last COVID thing

565
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Speaker 1: to share. Hopefully another one doesn't pop up by the

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Speaker 1: end of the show. But yes, Broncos general manager John

567
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Speaker 1: Elway and CEO Joe Ellis tested positive for COVID. Nineteen.

568
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: Rap sheet reported UM that the team is confident the

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Speaker 1: virus transmissions haven't outside the team facility. But who knows

570
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Speaker 1: that John always sixty years old, Joe Ellis is sixty one.

571
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not in a um Nott's not in

572
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Speaker 1: the zone of Hey, you're young and fresh and you're fine.

573
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Speaker 1: I'd be concerned about this stuff. I mean it's being

574
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Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean some of the college

575
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: players who are talking about how long it took to

576
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Speaker 1: get rid of some symptoms, some of the some of

577
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Speaker 1: the pretty common um mental side effects that you're a

578
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Speaker 1: little foggy, you know, for maybe months afterwards. That concerns you.

579
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Speaker 1: When you got quarterbacks who had it and you know,

580
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Speaker 1: things like that, it didn't get a lot of attention.

581
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Speaker 1: But Rick weil Armstead of the Jaguars is out for

582
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Speaker 1: the year because he was hospitalized twice with with COVID.

583
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Speaker 1: That was a guy who might have started at running

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Speaker 1: back for for the Jaguars, And so it's all it's

585
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: all a lottery and once once you make the decision

586
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Speaker 1: to play and not apt out. Then whatever happens with

587
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: you COVID was is, it's just kind of on you.

588
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Speaker 1: And so that that's my concern is what incentive is

589
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Speaker 1: there for a player to report symptoms? Um, if if

590
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Speaker 1: you have symptoms and you're just going to be out

591
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: and potentially, uh, maybe your career could be in question.

592
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Speaker 1: So Marlett Humphrey had symptoms last week, was out a day,

593
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Speaker 1: didn't test positive, and then was backpracticing with his team

594
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: for two days and then played in the game. So

595
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: that shows everyone could be doing everything right. No one's

596
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: at fault there, um, but there's no right answer there,

597
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: right not to belabor, but he's one of the guys

598
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: that they do the test on Sunday, you don't get

599
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Speaker 1: the result till Monday, and he went into the game

600
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: having been positive for Corona. That's not that far from

601
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: the Dodgers scenario, right. I Mean, that just is very murky,

602
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: and it's like, we're gonna press on, We're gonna play

603
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: all these games, but you're talking about like the health

604
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: of your players and coaches. Honestly, how did we get here?

605
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: Imagine if you were imagine it's two thousand, seventeen, the

606
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: four of us are doing the podcast, and then somebody

607
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: showed up and like, here's a tape of the November

608
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: three show, including the top of the show discussion. By

609
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: the way, so let's take this back to about two. Um, imagine,

610
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's madness, the world that we live in

611
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: and habit. It's I would say, like Mark, you just

612
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: don't age. Love the shirt. You're just just don't age.

613
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: I know you are older, but you know, you know, thanks, Well,

614
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: it's you know that I'm you know, these are methods

615
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: that didn't exist back in that I'm using right now

616
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: on believable. All right, Um, alright, so there's the update

617
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: of everything that's going on in the league before we

618
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: get to Monday night football. Curious boys, Um with the

619
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: trade downline now in the rear view mirror, if you

620
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: have any trades that you think should have happened, and

621
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Speaker 1: I'll start here. Will Fuller should be on the Packers

622
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: right now. This one made sense to me. There was

623
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: reports there was smoke around this. Fuller as on an

624
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: expiring contract. He's a veteran that will command pretty good money,

625
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: you would think on the open market. The Texans are

626
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: a team that is neither a team of the present

627
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: or the futurist things currently stand. So anything to recoup

628
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: some draft assets you would think would be something they'd

629
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: be interested in. And for the Packers, man, you know,

630
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: you watch that game on Sunday and it just remind you,

631
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: as Dalvin Cook rips him apart, that they have a

632
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of the same problems on defense that ended their

633
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: season last year. And you might not be able to

634
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: fix that in a trade deadline or not have anybody

635
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: out there that you feel comfortable going after. So why

636
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: not do the next best thing? And you have Aaron

637
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: Rodgers playing at you know, all all pro levels. Um,

638
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: go get him another big time weapon and see if

639
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: you can just outscore your problems. I think your window

640
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: is finite with Rogers. He's doing it in a big

641
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: way this year. Why not just go for it? Because

642
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I know you have Alan Lazard and I are and

643
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: I guess he's coming back at some point. But Marcus

644
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Valves Scantling is one fifteen out of one seventeen on

645
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: the graded wide receivers for PFF. I mean that was

646
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: an obvious area of upgraded and would have made the

647
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: Packers terrifying because Fuller has been healthy and very good

648
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: uh for the Texans this year. But apparently, according to reports,

649
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: there was a disagreement internally with the Packers about what

650
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: he was worth Fuller, because he is an injury risk.

651
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: He is a guy you have to then re sign.

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to give up a mid round pick?

653
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: I assume maybe a second or third for a guy

654
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: that might not stay round or might not stay healthy.

655
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: I get it, but it was worth the risk to me.

656
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They just they just used the second

657
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: round pick on a guy who's not even playing. And

658
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: so like I J yeah, A J. Dillon and then

659
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: Jordan's love is the first round pick, and so I

660
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I I understand that that you want to maximize value.

661
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: But how many years of Aaron Rodgers does the team

662
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: have left with your draft pick? You said that it's

663
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: not that many, So why not? I saw, like we

664
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: all sat there and watched Alan Zard wide open catch

665
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: a ball. He ran a great route, but he got

666
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: chased down from behind. He just he doesn't have that

667
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: type of speed Will Fuller does. And I'm sure he's

668
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: an injury risk. Everybody on earth is an injury risk.

669
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: That's why we're doing these shows from home, because everybody's

670
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: an injury risk. I don't understand that logic. I'm with you, Dan, Uh,

671
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: this this is a trade that should have happened. I

672
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: I am fine with the Packers not making this move.

673
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: I just when when you watch there, usually I want

674
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: them to make a move. But when you watch the Packers,

675
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: lack of receivers really seems pretty low on their needs.

676
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: They are great passing attack. They were a great passing

677
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: attack last week. They were extremely efficient throwing the ball. Uh,

678
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: Lazard will get back like, Yes, I would love to

679
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: have will Fuller, but then you got to give him

680
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: the franchise taggers sign them long term. And so unless

681
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: you're willing to do that, Um, I don't think that's

682
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like a huge like move for

683
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: them for for eight weeks. And I and I don't

684
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: like the fact. I don't like the argument that they

685
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: draft they drafted poorly. Uh. In terms of A J. Dillon,

686
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: it looks like and and Love they're not getting anything

687
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: out of if if Love has a chance of being

688
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: the top ten quarterback, that was a great pick. They

689
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: have two first round picks a year ago. You don't

690
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: see anyone like going crazy because Rashan Gary and Darniell

691
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: Savage gives them nothing week after week. I mean, Savage

692
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: is just there. Gary gives him. It's like that's what

693
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: usually get with your picks. So it's like, I don't

694
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: mind if you take a chance at a quarterback, get

695
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: your defense better, that's all right. Carry that he's been

696
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: on the phone with Goody, I think, and then they

697
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: all get along that stuff though. That's my thing that

698
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: they've already got their quarterback right, so use the pick,

699
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: use the three, use it too. Whatever. Again, it wasn't

700
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: sounded like it was kind of costa to It was

701
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: not just that they didn't use the first or second.

702
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 1: They waited until the sixth round to take a defensive player.

703
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: If you got run out of the building in the

704
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against rheemost in the Niners. And that's

705
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: all ancient history. Now. My point was, yes, Greg, is

706
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: their offense passing offense especially very good right now? Yes?

707
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: But would it have made them better with will Fuller?

708
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 1: I think so? And why not? But they have their reasons,

709
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: all right, who's got one? Who else got one? I've

710
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: got one? I want the Cowboys to step up because

711
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: Mark you know, tweeted it out there in primetime a

712
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: couple more times during I mean, poor uh Nance and

713
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: Romo are going to do uh Cooper rush starting this week.

714
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: That that's the Cowboys player who I guess is probably

715
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna start who has done person. It's a real person.

716
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: I saw him in training camp once. At one point

717
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: he was in a in a battle with Kellen Moore.

718
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: How about that. Yeah, here's what they should do. You know,

719
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones got into the Hall of Fame, um, you know,

720
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: for doing things for the good of the league, like

721
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: making the league more money essentially. You know, the NFL

722
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: is famous for doing things for the good of the league.

723
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: How about you go trade for Jamis Winston for the

724
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: good of the league. And uh so when we're watching

725
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, it's just a little more fun to watch.

726
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: Just do it for the seven million or it's like

727
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: thirty five million people watching on Thanksgiving, Let's watch Jamis Winston.

728
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Who knows, you might even win some games and win

729
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: this terrible division. Anyways, I'm sure the Saints would give

730
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: him away for very little, just just just for the

731
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: entertainment value. Was Winston Gregg is coming off a season

732
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: where through thirty interceptions. Now you're gonna trade them in

733
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: the middle of the season and say, learned this playbook

734
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: in a week and you're would be entertaining. You can't

735
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: tell me they wouldn't be way better with what's the

736
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: worst and that can happen. I do throw a pick,

737
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: give up before fourth for the good of the league. Seriously,

738
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: the amount of people. If you did the math, it's

739
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: probably like four people are gonna be watching Cowboys games

740
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: nationally for the rest of the year. Just do it.

741
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Why are you giving up a high It's gonna be

742
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: a high fourth round pick, right, Why are you giving

743
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: that up? Whatever? This sings to be fine with that

744
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: one year, Like, damn near one month's out of the box.

745
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: I'm only down on your track because you were down

746
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: in mind. Greg uh Patrick, you got one. Yeah, I

747
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: got one of the Denver Broncos and Kareem Jackson to

748
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Cleveland for a third round pick. He's got an out

749
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: in this contract that basically he is only gonna be

750
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: about a two million dollar cap hit next year. You

751
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: get a productive veteran player that gives Joe Woods another

752
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: piece to play with they can do a lot of things.

753
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: You gotta move around, be versatile in the secondary. I'm

754
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: not saying give up right on Andrewson dejo or any

755
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: of the other guys in the secondary, but you get

756
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: another piece because look like, let's be honest, like how

757
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: many years of Cleveland Browns contending do you really get?

758
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, move moving Joku for whatever pick you wanted

759
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: to take the place at another piece in the secondary.

760
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: While you've got Myles Garrett playing in a defensive Player

761
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: of the Year level, and just just see what you

762
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: can do. You know, you've got this kind of neutered

763
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: offense right now. Maybe you get jobbed back and you

764
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: you become like this defensive team, uh that that can

765
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: try to do something, you know, make a run where

766
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: we added a playoff spot, let's do it. I like

767
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: the idea because they they're in there bye week, so

768
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: you'd have time to acclimate that works in the COVID,

769
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, waiting window of that business. Um they're from

770
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: office seemed like just completely intent not to do anything,

771
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: but especially at safety where I mean sendejo um has

772
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: been a huge liability. Actually, week after week I thought

773
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: they might go after Anthony Harris of the Vikings. Um,

774
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: you know there are some shared DNA ties with the

775
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: Fansky and others, and he would have fit in well,

776
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: but they were very inactive. Well I don't I'm not

777
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: shared DNA in terms of career, Dan. I mean that's

778
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: how we meant us that on the show. I don't

779
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: know how you use it. You explain how you why

780
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: that offended your Why explain why that got you up

781
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: in arms. Mike's cutting out, I can't. I can't expanse

782
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: literally like literally sound bite and the whole thing goes

783
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: off the rails. I like it. Kareem Jackson is a

784
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: is a beast. Watching him last week just laying out Chargers,

785
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: it was like, it's sometimes it's unsafe to be around

786
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: Kareem Jackson, like he was putting people in the hospital

787
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: last week. All right, Mark, close it up. I will

788
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: give you a quick thing with no with literally no

789
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: UM analysis at all. Alden Smith to the Seahawks. I

790
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: could just see it. But this is what kind of

791
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: stuck with me. If you really wanted to shake up

792
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 1: things up for two teams that's still be leaving themselves

793
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: and these are two teams that are playoff hopefuls, but

794
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: have major identity assues. It is the Bears and the Eagles.

795
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: So what you do is you switch coaching staffs from

796
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: top to bottom. Okay, Doug Peterson goes to New York

797
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: and he's paired back again with Nick Foles and also

798
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: in to Chicago. He got Sorry, but Doug Peterson goes

799
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: to Chicago and he gets Nick Foles, Matt Nagy and

800
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: Andy reidoff shoot also goes to Philly. Both staffs I think,

801
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: get a massive fresh start. Jim Schwartz gets a good

802
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: Bears defense, Chuck Bagano a good Philly defense. We went

803
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: and Foles needs some life, They need some new activity,

804
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: and they're invariably gonna meet in the playoffs, which now

805
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: flipped opposing coaching staffs. That's how you turn and Eagles

806
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: in the playoffs scenario into something that has a lot

807
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: of bizarre storylines. I would watch that game. Let's just

808
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: trade the teams themselves well, because him like Matt Nagy

809
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 1: with the Bears is killing me. But if maybe he

810
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: goes just you give him a whole new world trade.

811
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: For the Eagles, you trade a guy with a statue

812
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: outside uh and Jim Schwartz for for Matt Maggie. He

813
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: already traded a guy with a statue outside. I thought

814
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: you were gonna say, just how about trade Wentz for

815
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,479
Speaker 1: falls and like a first round pick, Now that would

816
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: be sassy. That's interesting too. I like that well, I

817
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: never thought of like if Wentz got traded a mid

818
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: first round pick with that doesn't seem like enough. But

819
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be a first and a second. It's

820
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: been a bad year, Carson Wentz. We'll get into that

821
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: more on the Thursday preview show. All right, let's hit

822
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: someone in football. Looking for the tie two point conversion

823
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: shotgun Jones looks to his right, throws to his right,

824
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: and it is broken up. Trying to hit Louis flagged

825
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: down Antswine. Winsfield thought he won the bat penalty marker

826
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: on the play and here different. Yeah, hold on, but

827
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: you know you could take Tom Brady out of New England.

828
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: He's still going to catch the brakes, you know. Antoine

829
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Limfield Jr. Goes streaking across the end zone, knocks away

830
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: the two point attempt from Daniel Jones balls a little

831
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: bit behind his intended receiver and a little bit late.

832
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: But that was the nature of this game. Bucks beat

833
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: the Giants at the meadow Lands, a game where I

834
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: think a lot of people were surprised that the Buccaneers

835
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: didn't just roll up the Giants. But New York has

836
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: been shown a little bit of fight the last couple

837
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: of weeks, but they keep on getting beaten a heartbreaking

838
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: in fashion, and and mark this game without it turning

839
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: into a complete pile on here. But this game really

840
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: is different. If Daniel Jones is just competent, if he

841
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: if he hits on a couple of open throws downfield,

842
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: if he makes the right decision with a ball when

843
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: the pass rushes on him, if he even makes that

844
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: throw on time on the two point conversion, the Giants

845
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: have an upset win. But instead your left answering, wondering

846
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: about whether he is the guy in New York. Yeah,

847
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: and Dan, I know that you text with Giants fans

848
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,959
Speaker 1: back East regularly. I do the same with a great

849
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: friend of mine. And like we were just it's a

850
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: roller it's a human roller coaster ride with Daniel Jones,

851
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: because for a couple of minutes we were texting aboutw

852
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: you've got to go get another quarterback, forget the forty

853
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: game rule because forty games puts you week twelve of

854
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: next season, and I just think this is who Daniel

855
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Jones is. But then a couple of minutes later, he

856
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: does something that kind of makes you think, wait a minute,

857
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: he is a special athlete when he's on. There was

858
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: this one, I mean, there's a bad play where I

859
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: thought that, and they pointed out that he missed what

860
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: would have been a clear touchdown on one side of

861
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: the field and he whips it for the other direction

862
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: interception Carlton Davis. We saw the miss balls deep, but

863
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: then we saw it at the fourth quarter the way

864
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: that he made connections and converted third and third and

865
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: fourth downs. That gave me a little bit of hope.

866
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: So ultimately I'm left utterly confused. Um, I really think

867
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: that Joe Judge gave me an idea that I stick

868
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: with Joe Judge. There's something about him and what he

869
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: does for the Giants that they have not had under

870
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: their previous coaches. But with Daniel Jones, I'm left be

871
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: fuddled as to what to say about him other than

872
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: I think he is this hot and cold roller coaster ride.

873
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: Where where's the highs? Though? I mean they were there

874
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: last beautiful throws here and there, not last night, not

875
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: last night. That was a that was a disaster, and

876
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: they were giving him a lot of credit for that

877
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: last drive. It reminded me so much of the Sam

878
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: Donald seen Ghost scheme because Jones was like kind of

879
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: begging to just be pulled out of the game or

880
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 1: for it to end. That last drive was a nightmare.

881
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: He he almost threw four interceptions on that drive alone.

882
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: There was the fourth down play and this is the

883
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: play where it killed me, where he event they picked

884
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: up the fourth down, but there's three guys rushing, there's

885
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: absolutely no one around him, and he just starts running around,

886
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: almost runs into the sack, totally panic, doesn't wait for

887
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: guys to get open, and and he's just not there

888
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: and kind of like the same Ghost game. It was.

889
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: It's the game that got me thinking like this, this

890
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: might not this might not happen, this might not work.

891
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: I was very high on Daniel Jones coming into this

892
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: year because I did see the highs last year. Um,

893
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: but I'm not seeing it now, just whether it's confidence

894
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: or or what it is. He's so scrambled mentally and

895
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: and and mostly physically too, like it's not like he's

896
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: been accurate, which is which is what you would you

897
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: would want out of him. It was tough, like if

898
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: they had a better backup, I think would not hurt

899
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: to give him a week or two off. And people

900
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: were wondering, like, Greg, I saw your tweet about the

901
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: third down and we had exchanged tweets about what Jason

902
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: Garrett was calling on third downs, and it's just it's

903
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: probably hard to call plays for Daniel Jones when we

904
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: talked about Jamis Daniel Jones is basically Jamis Winston and

905
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: his willing us to give the ball to the other team.

906
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: And you want to pinpoint the highs, but the problem is,

907
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: like it's you know, the scores at the end of

908
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: the game are cumulative, right, Like, it's not the seven

909
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: points in the first quarters the same as seven points

910
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And you Dan, you mentioned the

911
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: throw to Slayton, Like if you take out the Derek

912
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: Carr pass to Henry Ruggs over the weekend where like

913
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: a gale force wind blew it forty yards out of bounds,

914
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: that that was the worst pass attempt all all week. Uh,

915
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: the stats running wide opens probably a touchdown and he

916
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: just he airmails it's nowhere clothes from a clean pocket,

917
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: and it's just you have to be able to succeed

918
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: in those circumstances, and he just he didn't. I mean,

919
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I'll say this because I I know where Mark Marks

920
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: coming from on this too, because he knows Daniel Jones

921
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: is fully aware that he's having a bad game, and

922
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: he knows he's in prime time, and he knows his

923
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: pressure starting to build on him, with maybe internally in

924
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: the organization, is certainly with the fans. That route of

925
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: the Giants. It showed me a little something that he

926
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: kept coming and and didn't completely fold up the tent.

927
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: The touchdown past the Golden Tate was a beautiful throw.

928
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: I think he does have the skill set, but I

929
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: think it's it's a confidence thing more than anything else

930
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: right now, where he was trying to just make things happen,

931
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: and and you know that's a rookie or a young

932
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: quarterback mistake. So I don't want to completely write them up,

933
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: but the Giants are kind of starting to edge now

934
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: into that territory of the Jets, only it's a year

935
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: sooner where it's like, all right, we there are things

936
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: we like about this kid, and there are things that

937
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: make us super nervous and we might be picking number

938
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: one or number two in this draft. Uh, that's a

939
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: tough spot for the Giants and the and whoever is

940
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: making the decisions. It won't be Dave Gettlman. Well, you're

941
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: not going to let the Jets and probably Washington goes

942
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: select franchise quarterbacks while Dave Gettleman takes a right guard.

943
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if if you have the opportunity to upgrade

944
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: and there is not going to be there, if they're

945
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: in the top three of the draft, right right on you,

946
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, Is this like he's going to correct all

947
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: these problems? Did I see a couple of good throws

948
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: last night? Do I see someone that can make all

949
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: the throws but seems completely confused and isn't is in

950
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: an offense where he's losing confidence? Yes? But am I

951
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: gonna like say that he is not on any level

952
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: like athletically fit to be a pro quarterback. I won't

953
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: say that. Like I did see some good things, but

954
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in a very functional offense first

955
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: of all. And I don't know the coaching did an

956
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: awesome job last night. The running game was awesome. They

957
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: were playing the number one, So you're basically you're done

958
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones at this point, you're done with him.

959
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: I went in super high, but I think he's imploding.

960
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the worst quarterback in the league right now.

961
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: So you gotta do something about right now because this

962
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: team is competitive. I think I just mean of like

963
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: a regular starter coming into the year, him, Him and

964
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: Donald would be the would be the two picks. He's

965
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: lost right now, and you have to figure a way

966
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: out of that. I mean that that game was one

967
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: a million times by their receivers, and their offensive line

968
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 1: played well and their defense played great. The only reason

969
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: they lost that game was because of Daniel Jones. There

970
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: was a tough game for him, There's no doubt about that.

971
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: On the other side of the all the Bucks, I

972
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: think it's uh, you know, I kept them, for instance,

973
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: at number three behind the Steelers and Chiefs in the

974
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: power rankings this week. Uh. And then people are getting

975
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: on me, Oh, they barely beat the Giants and all

976
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: this stuff. This is a long season in our league,

977
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: and what happens is every once in a while you

978
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: don't play so hot. But if you're a good team,

979
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: you still find a way to win. So, yes, should

980
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: you be a little disappointed that they were kind of

981
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: sleep walking through this game? And maybe those Danny Dimes

982
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: interceptions are the only reason they didn't sleep walk straight

983
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: to a loss. Sure, but they won, so I kind

984
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: of give them a pass, And I'm still hyper confident

985
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: and high on them as they head into a huge

986
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: Saints matchup on Sunday night, and they're only gonna get better. Uh.

987
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: You know, as much as the broadcast discussed Antonio Brown,

988
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: he's he's still the reason he's coming to the game

989
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: him is because he's he's a good football player. So

990
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna get better on offense. God Win make it back.

991
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: They they'll be really scary and Todd bowls the job

992
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: that he's done with the defense. Um, they're just a

993
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: really good football team, a really solid football team. That's

994
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem in January to somebody. I mean,

995
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Gronk is becoming a better factor week after week. I

996
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: mean that I question three weeks ago if you would

997
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: be and he's scored multiple times. You could see Brady

998
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: going for him, and they bench, They essentially bench Rojo

999
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones and four Net. Well, I don't think four

1000
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: nets anything great at all, But I mean they've got

1001
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: a couple of guys they can use. Scottie Miller's picking

1002
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: it up and and like, you know, not to go

1003
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: back to Daniel Jones. But their defense is one that's

1004
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: going to confuse quarterbacks. Their secondary has sixty five. They

1005
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: have sixty five points off haikaways this year. That's second

1006
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, this is one of the

1007
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: few defenses you can count on to mess up the

1008
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Yeah, I think I am

1009
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: with you Dan that I'm not worried about that game

1010
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: last night. I think the Giants have played sneaky good

1011
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: for a while. Almost the whole season. They've they've looked

1012
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: like a better, more competitive team overall. And it was

1013
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: not the bucks best night Brady has been. You know,

1014
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: had some tough days against Patrick Graham. I keep I've

1015
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: I've said it a few times. I think the Patriots

1016
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: dynasty ended in Week seventeen last year when Graham came

1017
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: in there and and with Flora's helped cook up Brady

1018
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: pretty good mentally as the coordinator of the uh the

1019
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: Dolphins and UH he had he had Brady a little confused.

1020
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: They're not the same without Chris Godwin. I do think

1021
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: you saw, like possibly one little problem with this team

1022
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: last night is the loss of thet of a starting

1023
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: to show up because their biggest weakness, it's amazing this

1024
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: is their biggest weakness is their past rushing. On paper,

1025
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: it looks good, but jpp in in in shack Barrett

1026
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: really aren't having great years. Uh and opposing quarterbacks have

1027
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: a lot of time and it's an aggressive defense, so

1028
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: you can try to beat him over the top. I mean,

1029
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: every team's got some issues, but I think that's that's

1030
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: something that other NFC teams like the Packers, for instance,

1031
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: with a great old line and great quarterback, can maybe

1032
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: take advantage of what if they ever got a rematch.

1033
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: I did think it was an interesting commentary, A commentary

1034
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: on Daniel Jones from Bruce Areans that he was able

1035
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: to like put Rojo in the dog house while for

1036
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: Nette was kind of being inconsequential. I think he ended

1037
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: up with like three point eight yards per carry. I

1038
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: think that was Bruce Arians saying, I can I can

1039
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: still punish this guy and not play my guy who's

1040
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: been tearing up the league because I'm not super worried

1041
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: about the Giants here and he shouldn't there. All right,

1042
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: there you go Monday. And by the way, the Monday

1043
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Night Football telecast, Um, I have I have a couple

1044
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: of takes. I have. I have one take and Greg,

1045
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: you mentioned something before the show. I love the graphics.

1046
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: I love the visuals of Monday Night Football. ESPN has

1047
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: done a nice job. It looks very clean. UM way

1048
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: into that. So after a couple of years of that

1049
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: telecast getting killed, I just want to say I like that.

1050
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: I even like the dope uh little graphic things with

1051
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: like when they had uh Breeze and Brady on the

1052
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: Seesaw with Peyton manning that computer graphics. I'm into that.

1053
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: Um So, I just want to say I'm enjoying the

1054
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 1: visual of Monday Night Football, even if I didn't enjoy

1055
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: the grease man Bryan Greasy with the following quote, Tom

1056
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: genuinely wants to see guys succeed. I truly believe that,

1057
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: and he's doing the same thing with Antonio Brown. I. UM,

1058
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak of the fame Sessler Greasy

1059
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: incident that may have colored my relationship with uh As

1060
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. But there was the moment where Daniel

1061
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: Jones basically PEG's winfield in the back on the two

1062
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: point conversion that would have tied the game, and Greasy's like,

1063
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is a winner, and it was Tom Brady

1064
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: over there using a mind trick, the four Daniel Jones

1065
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: at thor horrible fast. So of course I joke about it,

1066
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: and I've got angry Brady defenders assuming that I'm you know,

1067
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: why did why did Greg get on you like that?

1068
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: That was now Greasy Greasy a former teammate of Tom Brady.

1069
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: So not not totally on mission guy and uh last

1070
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: night and there's there's lots to praise tom Brady about.

1071
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: Last night was not his best game or the passing

1072
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: games best game. It was the defense setting them up

1073
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: like it's okay to call a spade of space. And

1074
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: I think they've been doing that. I've been enjoying this

1075
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: Monday Night crew. Um more. As the season's going along,

1076
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: I think they're getting their footing. They're put in a

1077
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: tough spot. You know, it's a new crew, a lot

1078
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: of a lot of eyes on them. I think they're

1079
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: getting more comfortable. It's a it's a solid watch. I

1080
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: mean I think that like in the past, you these

1081
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: guys were given years. Like I think when like Chris

1082
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: Fowler and Kirk curb Street did Week one, and my

1083
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 1: my notation was, I know, these guys are a one

1084
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: week thing for pros and then they go back to college.

1085
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 1: But they've been doing it so long that they just

1086
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: had this natural chemistry. And asking these three man booths

1087
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: to come in and have that right away as a

1088
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: big ask. And it's also happening in a terrible environment where,

1089
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: like you know, Steve Leaves trending after the game, everyone's trying.

1090
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: You say one false word and you're getting killed. That said,

1091
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: your announcing money in a football The rope is short,

1092
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, so you better find that chemistry quick. We

1093
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: gotta check with Andrew Marshant to the New York Post.

1094
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: Who is I find him to be the greatest media

1095
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: reporter out there on Twitter right now. He founds out

1096
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: about stuff that happens at our shop before we do.

1097
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I want has been on our show

1098
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: and his his brother is a listener, so that's cool too.

1099
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: We love the whole Marshawn Klan. I want to see

1100
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: if they're still looking at this team is a as

1101
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: a rental until they can go get some high profile

1102
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: talent or if they're getting a legit audition right now.

1103
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: We love that stuff. We talked about it typically in

1104
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: the off season. But a little nug there, little combo

1105
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: on a on an election day before we say goodbye, uh,

1106
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: Thursday night football, Let's turn our attention now to week nine. Here,

1107
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: we are all the way to week nine and we

1108
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: hit it's Packers at Niners on a short week. Uh

1109
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: obviously for both teams, and uh we talked about the

1110
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: Niners plenty here and the tough situation there in now

1111
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: schedule is really an uphill climb. And now they don't

1112
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 1: have their quarterback or their best player on the field.

1113
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: They already lost their best defensive player uh in Nick

1114
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: Bosa a couple of weeks ago. Uh So the Niners

1115
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: are in a lot of trouble. What do you think

1116
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: about this game? Mark the Packers coming off a disturbing

1117
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: loss and in their own right on Sunday, I think

1118
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: the I mean, the biggest news item is that Coronas

1119
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: hit this game too. That there's you know, rap Report,

1120
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: and Rapp Report mentioned that there's pessimism Aaron Jones will

1121
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: play because of this calf injury. Uh, they don't have

1122
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: a j. Dillon because of a positive Corona step test,

1123
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams and Kamal Martin. Jamal Williams, another running back,

1124
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: is a high risk close contacts. So you've got Tyler

1125
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: Irvin and Dexter Williams in the backfield. They have a

1126
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: combined fifteen carries in the NFL. That worries me less

1127
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: than if it was a Benda Nucci being rolled in,

1128
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: because running backs sometimes just be able to kind of

1129
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: make it work. But again, it's another game that we're

1130
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 1: not you know, six weeks from now, we won't look

1131
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: at the result and remember some of the positive tests.

1132
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: But it impacts an offense. And I think they've missed

1133
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: Darren Jones a little bit. I mean, and there's certainly

1134
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: gonna Jamal Williams has stepped in and been pretty good.

1135
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: But to take them both out, I mean, that's not

1136
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: They want to be able to run the ball, and

1137
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: then you're really compromised on that front. If if if

1138
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy g and Kittle were in this game, I'd picked

1139
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: the forty Niners just because I think the matchup is

1140
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: so perfect against this run defense that of the Packers

1141
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: that everyone just is crushing pet petting for with good reason.

1142
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: It's a perfect matchup for Kyle Shann to kind of

1143
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: have one of those scheme games. I wouldn't surprise me

1144
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: at the forty nine Ers. The zombie forty Niners still

1145
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: find a way to win some of these games down

1146
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: the stretch, but they always right, he can. He can

1147
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: come up with the scheme game and in the right matchup.

1148
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: But now it's not it's not just Jimmy G. Nick

1149
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: mollins is gonna start. It's weird that I think losing

1150
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: Kiddle and Deebo and Deebo Samuel is indeed out for

1151
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: this game again. You know, it's bigger even then losing

1152
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. De mullins um because then it's just there's

1153
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: not enough things. You also don't have Moster and Tevin

1154
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: Coleman in the running game either, but there's there's not

1155
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: enough things. And you could even argue like over the

1156
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: course of this season, losing both the Ford and then Buckler,

1157
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: who they traded, has been a bigger impact on the

1158
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: forty Niners than any of these offensive injuries because they

1159
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: just don't have a pass rush that can scare you anymore.

1160
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: And you would think against Aaron Rodgers and this Packers

1161
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: offensive line, and that's that spells doom. What what Kyle

1162
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: Shanahan does so much as maximized the talent, right, But

1163
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: when you when you've used the talent? Right? So how

1164
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: does all that? How do you like? How many reverses

1165
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: can Brandon Ayouk run? Uh? And I really think, honestly,

1166
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: like the broken foot, the Debot came back from he

1167
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: came back so fast from it. Um, you know they

1168
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: got We've seen dez uh Sammy Watkins in the past

1169
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: lose whole seasons to that. I was surprised Debot came back.

1170
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: He looked the steps slow. Um, so they've just they've

1171
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: been going through it. So it's it's hard to not

1172
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: pick uh. You know, the Packers in this revenge situation

1173
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: against the team that just demolished them, just ran right

1174
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: over them. They had no answers for in the playoffs. Um,

1175
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, if I believed in looking ahead to an opponent,

1176
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: I guess I would call that here have happened. I

1177
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: think Dalvin Cook just dominated them. But I mean that's

1178
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: what happened to the playoffs. They got ran over. It's

1179
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: just you know, is Ja Michael Hasty going to run

1180
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: over this team to then it'll be close. I really

1181
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: bet it'll be close. I don't know what they're saying

1182
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: in the desert right now, but uh, they're saying, we

1183
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,919
Speaker 1: want to make money, that we're going to whatever we say.

1184
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Packers have their problems to they're not quite getting the

1185
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: same juice upfront from from the Smith brothers, who are

1186
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: not brothers. Um, you know, they they're they're not quite.

1187
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: They're not a perfect team either. I would have I

1188
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: would have loved to see this game with everyone healthy.

1189
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: It's annoying, you know, Greg, every Smith though, is a

1190
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: brother on some level because at one point someone named

1191
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: Smith was the first Smith. Well then we're all, if

1192
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: you really want to look at it, especially now in

1193
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: this moment in time, we're all brothers, you know, we

1194
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: all blade red. Hopefully I've never felt closer to you

1195
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: at the end. You know what, By the way, claybron

1196
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: you are obviously a voice of reason typically on social

1197
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: media with you know, things like sports cliches. But I

1198
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: will not be here and stand down as you say

1199
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: that trap games don't exist. Trap games absolutely exist, and

1200
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: for you to casually assert that they don't minutes ago,

1201
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: that will not stand on this show. And it was.

1202
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: It was a minute in twenty six seconds ago. And yes,

1203
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,960
Speaker 1: trap games are not a thing. You play the people

1204
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: that you're playing against, and nobody, like a ball is

1205
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: not in the air and you're like, wow, I got

1206
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson next week. It's not literal subconscious. It's a

1207
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: subcontent in the mind. Banned Tanucci is done in Texas

1208
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: that he never steps foot in Gerald world ever again.

1209
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 1: That happened in the luxury suite. That's why he's not playing.

1210
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: It's okay, Ben, we're back to back to Bay Ridge

1211
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 1: with Benny the Lucci. She should be shining the glasses.

1212
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: I found him a roll right there. You got a job.

1213
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: I bet he could make about a hundred and thirty

1214
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: grand a year shining in the glass. I'll shine the

1215
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: glasses if that's what's the prices. All right, good stuff,

1216
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: Patrick claybron you're a prince. Beards looking very sharp as

1217
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: well right now. That would probably be my reaction to

1218
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: us doing this show and be like I have a beard.

1219
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: That's the big takeaway. Um, yes, we'll be back on Thursday.

1220
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: The world is gonna be a little bit different or

1221
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: exactly the same. We shall see. But thank you to

1222
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: everyone for listening. And and Ricky Hollywood, how are you?

1223
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: By the way, I've been noticing you because I could

1224
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: see you when you're just, you know, producing, lounging on

1225
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: the bed. Today you're petting the dog. I didn't seem

1226
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 1: like you're paying that close attention. But at the same time,

1227
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: I know you're a woman that can multitask, so maybe

1228
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: you were. Yeah, I've been paying great attention, so exactly

1229
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: like someone says when they weren't playing attention. And you

1230
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: guys nailed it. Good stuff. Stan hasn't signing off for

1231
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood the Great Ricky and make sure you check

1232
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: it out. I hope she's you. Gotta penned on your profile.

1233
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure Ricky, you're amazing our article that came out

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: last week in NFL dot Com Out and Proud in

1235
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh at you Clavan, the Quiet Storm the

1236
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: Old Boss. Until Thursday,