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Speaker 2: What's Good This, my Friends, is the l Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm will Selva my Prettimana m Jack Constrawez has the

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Speaker 2: am not alone, no, no, no, I have an absolute

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Speaker 2: stud on the gridiron. He is a defensive alignment out

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Speaker 2: of Arizona State University giving up for nessa Jade silvera.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Works up? Baby?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely forks up baby. I'm an Arizona State Sun devil.

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Speaker 2: So it is an absolute pleasure to have you on

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Speaker 2: the pod.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you for having me. For sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now this process that you're going

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Speaker 2: through right now as we speak, you have a meeting

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Speaker 2: coming up with the Dolphins and you just had a

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Speaker 2: meeting with the Raiders. How surreal has it felt for

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Speaker 3: Man, It's it's a dream come true.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, man, It's something that you dream of as a

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Speaker 4: child coming up in this sport. Man, just to almost

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Speaker 4: be there, almost to be able to play with some

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Speaker 4: of the some of the best of the best in

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Speaker 4: able to try and try and get there and be

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Is there ever a pinch me moment for you when

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Speaker 2: you go inside that facility of say the Raiders and

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Speaker 2: then you soon will do it for the Dolphins. Is

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Speaker 2: there that moment at all though, that that that nervous

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Speaker 2: energy that that overcomes you.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say so much nervous than just more so

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Speaker 4: excited man, like you see Lombardi Trophy. In these facilities,

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Speaker 4: you meet these coaches who have worked with amazing players

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Speaker 4: and so it's just it's just crazy, man, It's it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: How do you think Arizona State prepared you for this moment?

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Speaker 4: Definitely Arizona State man prepared me in the best way

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Speaker 4: they could. We had a tremendous coaching staff, a tremendous

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Speaker 4: strength staff over the coach Joe Connolly man, great teammates man.

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Speaker 4: The memories, the bonds, the relationships that I was able

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Speaker 4: to make Arizona State will always like come with me

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Speaker 4: throughout my football career.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: You were there for one year after being in Miami

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Speaker 2: for four years, and for you, those are two distinctly

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Speaker 2: different places. Talk about how it was, you know, being

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Speaker 2: the culture and everything that you grew up with, went

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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely going to your universe. REMINDI for four years,

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Speaker 4: and it's what everybody expects. Man, It's a drink of

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Speaker 4: I can not be more happier for that and more

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Speaker 4: You know, sunny and sunny, palm trees, the sun's always out.

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Speaker 4: You know, campus is right there, twenty minutes from the beast,

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Speaker 4: so it's always it's always a good vibe.

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Speaker 4: You're working hard in that sun and humidity going going crazy,

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Speaker 3: No humidity is dry heat.

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Speaker 4: It's one hundred degrees in the morning when we practice

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Speaker 3: So it's really the desert.

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Speaker 4: I remember jumping off the plane first time went to

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Speaker 4: Like I've never seen it. It's crazy, like seeing mountains

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Speaker 4: but it was an easy adjustment because Arizona's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember getting off the plane myself coming from California,

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Speaker 4: I remember it was one night it was one hundred

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Speaker 3: I was like, what heck is going on? It was crazy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the feeling. Man, You talk about home

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it couldn't be more grateful for the two

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Speaker 4: along the way, the old way, And man, I can't

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Speaker 3: Drafted is just as much as it makes me excited.

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Speaker 4: Man, I know how happy and the static my family's

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Speaker 4: be able to fulfill my dream because everything the impoured

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Speaker 4: into me. Man, I got a great supporting cast around me,

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Speaker 4: you know, just from coaches that I've grown up with,

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Speaker 3: Man, guys who I'm with it every day, like since

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Speaker 4: Home, at the top of the game in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: just seeing how they move, see how they operate, It's like, shoot,

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Speaker 4: I gotta get there.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's a it's a shoot,

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Speaker 3: it's a given. I got to. So, yeah, what do.

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Speaker 2: Your parents say about this meeting with the Dolphins? Do

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Speaker 2: you think they're trying to contain their excitement about the

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Speaker 2: possibility of you going to the Dolphins?

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Speaker 3: For sure, Man, my parents have me home for twenty

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Speaker 4: They'll be they'll definitely be excited if you know the

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Speaker 4: be a dream for in truth, come back home. But shoot,

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Speaker 4: I know wherever I go one of these thirty two teams, Man,

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Speaker 2: What have teams told you about where they see you

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Speaker 2: and where you think you will be? You will be picked, man.

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Speaker 4: I've heard of various rangers her Day two, early day three.

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Speaker 4: But man, wherever I'm picked, bro, I just need an opportunity,

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Speaker 4: and once I get my foot in the door, it's wraps.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I know that that Senior Ball week really helped you out.

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Speaker 2: Talk about how you were able to show up and

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, kN be more thankful for Jim naggen Man,

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Speaker 4: just the opportunity that he gave me to come all

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Speaker 4: the way to Mobile and play in the Senior Bowl. Man,

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Speaker 4: I met a lot of guys connected with a bunch

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Speaker 4: I just was real comfortable out there, like it's football

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Speaker 4: like I'm coming for blood every time. And that's what

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Speaker 4: I did out there, and I could again thankful for

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Speaker 4: Jim nagging for that invite and to do what I did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we needed more sun devils. Also during the

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Speaker 2: NFL scouting combine, right, and glad that you were there.

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Speaker 2: You were representing. How do you think you you stood

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Speaker 3: Definitely, I feel like my movement skills are really there.

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Speaker 4: I felt like I killed the drills, did my thing, jump,

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Speaker 3: Thirty so you know I could dump one two. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, man, just was out there just doing my thing.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: Another opportunity to just showcase myself and be around a

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Speaker 3: Man. And that's some of the best. The best part

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Speaker 4: You see these guys and see what they do well,

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Speaker 4: and you can even pick pick some things that they

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Speaker 3: So that was another great opportunity for me just doing the.

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Speaker 4: Combine another childhood dream that I was able to check

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Speaker 2: Oh, no question.

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Speaker 2: Looking at your Instagram and talking to you, there's a

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Speaker 2: I want to read because I went through your Instagram

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Speaker 2: this nestagram. Okay, I went through. Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 2: think you like it?

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Speaker 3: I'm rocking with it. I'm rocking with it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, so you're with me. So, so this is neestagram.

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Speaker 2: I've selected six different quotes from you, and I want

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Speaker 2: you to tell me what those quotes mean and when

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Speaker 2: you said them? All right.

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Speaker 3: For sure?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. You ready? Yes see, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: is the first one. Slow mo better than no motion.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep going. When did you say that? And

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Speaker 2: what was the content that was?

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Speaker 4: I think that was a picture I posted with the

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Speaker 4: in the moment. You know, motion is you know that

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Speaker 4: motion is action. So basically, you know slow motion is

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Speaker 2: Hey, I like the philosophy. You know, b Water right,

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Speaker 2: that was the That was the line from Bruce Lee, Right.

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Speaker 2: the motion? So I like that. I'm telling you, NESSA.

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Speaker 2: Graham is all full of philosophical quotes.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not bad. You got that one. How about

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Speaker 2: this one? One thing about time, It's gonna tell. When

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Speaker 2: did you say that?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: I think that was after the Oregon State game, And

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Speaker 4: that was at a point in the season I really

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Speaker 4: started getting a lot of pick up and started really

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Speaker 4: seeing a lot of the fruits of my labor being

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Speaker 4: cast in. So I just felt like five years in

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Speaker 3: One thing about Tom is gonna tell Tom Taylor.

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Speaker 2: So you sure that's when you when you posted it?

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Speaker 2: You're positive?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a picture.

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Speaker 4: It was a picture of me and I had a

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Speaker 4: yellow I think I was like doing something I don't

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Speaker 4: want something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you were looking good man, man. That was

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Speaker 2: indeed after the Oregon State game. Okay, So next to

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Speaker 2: the Graham at least you know, right, so far you

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Speaker 2: haven't been baffled by anything. Okay, here, here we go.

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Speaker 2: What were you feeling when you posted that? Though? You

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Speaker 3: That was after Washington State. I had like a second

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Speaker 3: Just don't forget it if I like it. Just stuff

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Speaker 3: Other artists that I get a couple of captions from Soup.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, so then do you just go into your notes?

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Speaker 2: You go into your notes and then you start typing away.

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Speaker 2: Nice. Okay, now we know now listen, this is a weird,

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Speaker 2: It's like I was looking too good, and that's that

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Speaker 2: I was looking way too good. I couldn't. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go. How about this one Diamonds dancing harder

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Speaker 2: I love that. Okay, this is the final one of Nestagram.

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Speaker 4: Definitely. Shoot, that's another one. That's that's that's that's the

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, nice, nice. So for me, my quote

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put that one in the nose might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, now you gonna now okay, So I

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Speaker 4: Man, coach Robert Rodriguez, And I can't thank him enough

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Speaker 4: He's been talking to you. Man, he he entrusted me

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Speaker 3: You know, and I appreciate him for sure. Going back

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Speaker 4: Arizona my second home, nah, for sure, So that would

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, hey listen, either way, wherever you land, it's

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Speaker 2: It was an absolute pleasure talking to you. And please

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Speaker 2: come back and visit us again. Good luck with your meetings,

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Speaker 2: and let's keep those quotes coming, all right, my man,

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Speaker 2: let's keep me coming the show.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate you, all right, Not to take care man.

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Speaker 2: Wait, that was a fun conversation. It's amazing how much

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Speaker 2: these prospects really light up when you go on their Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Didn't shy away from it. Loved the quotes, and he

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Speaker 2: keep those quotes coming and hopefully we'll one day get

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