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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it is me Sam Taggart with a little announcement,

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Speaker 1: and that is that I'm doing my solo show, Club

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Speaker 1: Comic again in Brooklyn on April twenty eighth at Littlefield Club.

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Speaker 1: Comic is my you know multimedia club kid Pop Fantasia

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Speaker 1: with you know, it's club tracks, it's videos, it's stand

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Speaker 1: up and studio lab. Co host George Severis is opening

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Speaker 1: this time, so it is sure to be a damn blast.

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Speaker 1: The last one was so much fun and I would

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Speaker 1: love to see all of your asses there. Okay, this

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Speaker 1: has been the announcement. Enjoy the episode by take us

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Speaker 1: a Club Comic. Okay, bye bye bye. Podcast starts now. Wow,

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Speaker 1: welcome to radio. I'm speechless. I'm speechless. I'm in shock.

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Speaker 1: We are being followed around by reality television cameras, to

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Speaker 1: say the least, to say the least. Finally, we are

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Speaker 1: being followed at all times. There's no private space. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, you've heard of the vander Pump Rules drama.

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Speaker 1: We're part of it. Yeah. We have a big hand

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Speaker 1: in an actually big hand in it. We work straight

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Speaker 1: to the whole thing. Yeah, and guess what, it's fucking

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Speaker 1: working because people are talking about it, and the numbers

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Speaker 1: are flying through the roof and it's all because of us.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you don't see us, I'm camera, but we're

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Speaker 1: in those credits and you never bothered to look sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: So to be as candid and clear as possible, what's

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Speaker 1: happening is we are in studio and we recently made

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Speaker 1: the decision to i'll say it, pivot to video. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is a loaded term, which is crazy. In the

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Speaker 1: past of the pivot to video has been seen as

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Speaker 1: a cheap way to get clicks, but in our case,

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Speaker 1: it's a way to expand our reach. Well, our art

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Speaker 1: is about our voices, but it's also about our images.

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Speaker 1: That's true. We have we've talked about this before. What

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Speaker 1: we were told by consultant that our faces are too

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Speaker 1: symmetrical for the camera. Yeah, but they decided, they were like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let's risk it. Yeah. I mean this

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Speaker 1: is sort of like you know, Michael Jordan was cut

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Speaker 1: from the high school basketball team, you know, And so

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Speaker 1: we were told over and over like, no, people will

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Speaker 1: cry instantly upon seeing you because it's all just fits

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Speaker 1: so right, and it compliments each other in such a

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Speaker 1: beautiful way. And you know, people will think it's CGI,

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Speaker 1: people say it's not real. And we kept saying like,

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Speaker 1: oh well, lets just let us, you know, show ourselves,

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Speaker 1: and they said no. That's why we ended up in podcasting.

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Speaker 1: Originally were film actors. Yeah, end stage and they end

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Speaker 1: stage of course, but they had to always go in

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Speaker 1: and with CGI replace our faces with Sebastian Stand because

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Speaker 1: he was a little more approachable. Yeah, they replaced me

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Speaker 1: with Sebastian Stand and you with Jake. So all those

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Speaker 1: movies that you see with Jake Joel on Holme Sebastian Stand,

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Speaker 1: like we're the ones doing the heavy lifting. Yeah. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: she persisted and we are now on camera and I

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Speaker 1: think soon to YouTube, and I have to say, it

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Speaker 1: feels insane. Here's the thing we were told and we

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Speaker 1: were like excited to, you know, like I said, broad

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Speaker 1: in our reach, reach new audience is via the via

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Speaker 1: the medium of video, via the platform of YouTube, platform

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Speaker 1: that in my knowledge has never done anything bad. No

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Speaker 1: good platform, good platform. I've heard the algorithm works really well,

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Speaker 1: and then it just recommends things that are more and

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Speaker 1: more pro democracy, no matter what you click on, no

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Speaker 1: matter what. That's sort of that's what I've read in

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Speaker 1: the New York Times, and so of course we were like,

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Speaker 1: why not put the podcast on YouTube? Apparently a lot

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Speaker 1: of people listen to podcast you know, listen to podcasts

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Other people like to watch podcasts. People love

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Speaker 1: to have that video element, you know, And so we

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Speaker 1: were like, yes, let's record our session in this beautiful studio.

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Speaker 1: Of course, in my mind, I was it never occurred

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Speaker 1: to me. Where would the cameras go? It never occurred

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Speaker 1: to me, like how would I respond to a crame?

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Speaker 1: I think. I was sort of like, well, like it'll

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Speaker 1: And then like maybe they could even do it like

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Speaker 1: describe like what it is? Like there's two huge cameras

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Speaker 1: lights right on me. Yeah, well the lights are on me.

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Speaker 1: Well again, you did come, as we said, you did

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Speaker 1: come more camera ready than we did. You're sort of

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Speaker 1: wearing an expensive looking sweater. Yeah you made it. Well

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Speaker 1: you should tell them and for a lot. Sweetheart made that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, it's gorgeous. Thank you so much, but

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Speaker 1: mean the camera like, I love that you're like, but

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Speaker 1: I don't mean like, oh, there's my shot. They're pivoting

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Speaker 1: Well you're here to promote your sweater line, right yeah,

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Speaker 1: wow yeah, Mohair Higgins does it again. But I think

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Speaker 1: you I listen to your pocket. It sounds exactly the same,

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Speaker 1: does it Like I'm just here looking at you, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like I'm listening to the podcast. But also

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Speaker 1: I can see you both and it's not pain You're

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Speaker 1: not like painfully symmetrical, but it is hard. You're both

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Speaker 1: very beautiful. Okay, well we were told painfully they said

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Speaker 1: it hurt. Yeah something since then, Yeah, we got we

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Speaker 1: wanted to be. We said, can you make us a

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Speaker 1: little tiny bit a symmetric I just want a little

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Speaker 1: make perfume, you're supposed to put a little bit of

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Speaker 1: dirt in it, or earth or like a little dander

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Speaker 1: or something to make humans see it as real. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so maybe you did that to your faces. We did.

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Speaker 1: That's actually, you're so right. It's sort of an Uncanny

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Speaker 1: Valley type thing, like if something looks too perfect, too symmetrical,

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Speaker 1: you're afraid of it. Yeah, And we're both really drawn

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Speaker 1: to imperfection in our work, so we just wanted to

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Speaker 1: reflect that in our you know, physical We're very inspired

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Speaker 1: by Cindy Crawford's Little Mole, and we try to sort

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Speaker 1: it should. She inspires you. Yeah, oh oh the mole, Yeah, Brenda.

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Speaker 1: Munrose mole by having it be natural. In Hollywood, there's

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Speaker 1: a rich tradition of moles that is wait, I actually

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of Sam. You do have a

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Speaker 1: same place Colin Farrell has his Wow wow, Maybe they

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Speaker 1: I have a completely flawless face with no spots or freckles,

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Speaker 1: piano in there and it like works perfectly, and she's

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Speaker 1: like suddenly in her vibe again. I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: think I was trying to find it internally. What is internally? Oh,

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Speaker 1: because that happened in Titanic. There was a band down underground,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say, an interview with an actor talking

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Speaker 1: does a romantic partner count of the five or is

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Speaker 1: that a different category? I don't know. It depends if

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Speaker 1: you're having sex with them. Yeah, well, five is the

425
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: number who should be having sex with at any moment.

426
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Speaker 1: At any moment, you should have five people somehow penetrated.

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Speaker 1: Someone needs to be penetrating. Does that make sense to you? Five? Hi?

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Speaker 1: Five does actually make let's two names? Okay, maybe Sam

429
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Speaker 1: George our producer, everyone who set up a camera, but

430
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Speaker 1: everyone listening at home and everyone at okay, don't think.

431
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, we're being like jokey, joke about

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Speaker 1: I just want to be clear. I want to be

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Speaker 1: friends with him. Yeah you could be clear, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think what's clear is that, like you want to

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Speaker 1: be friends with him, and it's like, but we're not

436
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Speaker 1: gonna just be like nice because he's famous exactly, Like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be real and that's why we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: good friends. Yeah, we're gonna tell him you look too perfect.

439
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 1: Something's up. And I'm telling you as a friend, we

440
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Speaker 1: really like your work. And then you make an har

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're gonna be hard. You must have been gifted.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that one of the reasons why social

443
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: media is so toxic is because it forces you to

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Speaker 1: care about more than five people at any given time? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like I truly think. Yeah, And this is not a

446
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: novel observation, but it's like, we are not meant to

447
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: know that many people. We're not meant to think about

448
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: that many people on any given day. And it's actually

449
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: like the other day, it's sort of like reverse engineering schizophrenia.

450
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: Like you are literally scrolling through voices in your head

451
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Speaker 1: sure that are not talking to you, like fractured reality. Yeah,

452
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: you're scrolling through like a billion people's random thoughts. Imagine

453
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: like having headphones in and imagine that but an audio

454
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Speaker 1: form to sort of talk of the podcasting audience. Imagine

455
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: being like, oh, you know what, I'm gonna scroll a bit,

456
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna relax a bit, I'm gonna put on headphones

457
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: and then just listen to a cacophony of one thousand

458
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Speaker 1: people not even seeing anything of substance, just being like

459
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: being a gifted kid is bay. Yeah, and then like

460
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Speaker 1: getting randomly really really mad exactly. Yeah that sounds horrible,

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00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: but we and we do that with our eyes, yea,

462
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: with our eyes. And by the way, eyes are just

463
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Speaker 1: as important as ears. So if you don't do it

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Speaker 1: with your ears, don't do it with your eyes. That's

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Speaker 1: what I tell all my mentees is so good at that,

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Speaker 1: and so is your mouth. Yeah, what sense? Explain top

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00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: of us? Which the senses is the most important? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Most important? Sight? I think? No, you go, um, isn't

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Speaker 1: it touch because you literally have There's like my friend

470
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: volunteers to cuddle new babies because they literally need more

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Speaker 1: than being talked to, or actually they do need water

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Speaker 1: and foods. That is actually a great point. It's maybe

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Speaker 1: like touch has been undervalued societally, and so we think

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Speaker 1: sight is the most important because you know, wow, wow,

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Speaker 1: I was like a newborn. You think sight is important

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Speaker 1: because you know, we need our eyes to look at advertisements,

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Speaker 1: but actually touch is way more important. You think the

478
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: products to come around and just touch you. Yeah, well

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00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: that's by them thank you. That was gonna be My

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00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: next point is like, how do we monetize to touch

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00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: based advertising? How can we make this podcast touch base? Yeah, wait,

482
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: how can we make it? You can just do life shows.

483
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they do and they sell like VAP

484
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: tickets okay, and to meet you and then they touch you. Yeah,

485
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: we need to do a short of not Q and

486
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Speaker 1: a what is it called a meet and great? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is the only way to monetize touch. But here

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Speaker 1: the body meeting. Great, here's all nothing's off limits extra.

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Speaker 1: I figured out, Oh my god, this is genius. I

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00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: figured out why touch is difficult to monetize. It's not scalable.

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Speaker 1: Even when you do a meet and Greek, each person

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Speaker 1: individually has to like line up and touch you. There's

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Speaker 1: no podcast equivalent of You can make a film that

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Speaker 1: a billion people can see. You can make a podcast

495
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: that a billion people can hear. You can even make

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Speaker 1: a sent that a billion people can smell if you

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00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 1: make a candle or even number. But there is, yes,

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Speaker 1: there is literally no way to scale at a grand scale,

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00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: at a global scale touch. There's that woman who goes

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: around hugging people, but again one by one. Yeah, it's

501
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 1: too slow. Yeah, what is the most number of it's

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Speaker 1: the most anti capital exactly, literally touches the most anti

503
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: capitalist sentence. This is a big idea. Well, I think, yeah, okay,

504
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: so you wanna Sometimes in concerts people run around and

505
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: do like high five everyone or something I thought, and

506
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: and then the people feel so special. I'm never going

507
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: to exactly exactly one time Drenellemane crowdsurfed on my hand.

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, which little parts of her body too?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. That's a great question, because of course

510
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: I see her as an artist and not as a

511
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: piece of flesh, So it would never occur to me

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00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: to even delineate between her different body parts because I

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Speaker 1: respect her. But I just thinkly, remember I did like

514
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: I was like part of the crowd. That oh wow,

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00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: sort of cool. That is cool. What's the most capitalist sense?

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00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I think? So yeah, I mean that's what you used

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Speaker 1: to see advertisements, But like when you say to see

518
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: your screen, it's like profiting from someone else's labor. So like,

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: oh see, I was thinking the most exploitable sense, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you are selling a product, the easiest way to

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00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 1: someone is via their eyes. Let me just look at

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Speaker 1: the art industry exactly. I'm a buyer. Well you're a

523
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: collector of course, and mostly of touch based arts collector.

524
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: You've got to come and feel my pieces. Ampuirement is

525
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: just covered in absolutely beautiful acted pieces. You know that

526
00:28:47,440 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: should be real? Yeah, um wow? Should we do your segment?

527
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: I also want to say one more thing about the

528
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: podcast want to Make Okay please, which is that it's

529
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: really hitting me today. How um we are literally and

530
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: just like that, like we are and it's like freaking

531
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: me out because like they can't see this, but there's

532
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: a window that's like looking out on New York. We're

533
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: like laughing and like drinking water and like I'm like,

534
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, every time we laugh, I'm like we're

535
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: like a scene and just like that. And I feel

536
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: it's like a bit trippy thinking just like that should

537
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: do a sist like a podcast that is essentially a

538
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: fully scripted, slash improvised version of the podcast that they

539
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: have on the show, so you can follow on obviously. Yeah,

540
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: it's actually monetarily dumb that they haven't done it yet. Yeah,

541
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: what the hell is wrong with them? Yeah? And it

542
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: was her and two others. Yeah, it was the guy

543
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: from Matt TV. Oh yeah, yeah, oh my god, what's

544
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: his name? He was? He was mother to me when

545
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I was a kid. But I don't represent oh god,

546
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: well whatever, so it is him, it was and him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

547
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: I would absolutely recommend that. Yeah, I would listen the

548
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: way I missed j das They're coming back. Did you

549
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: watch and just like that, Yeah, just the first episode. Actually,

550
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: I just needed to know what happened you keep going.

551
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I truly it was also something about that part of

552
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: the pandemic where I needed a j das. Culturally, we

553
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: needed something to rally around. And I really don't remember

554
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: the last time a television character made that much of

555
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: an impact. It was insane. Is so where are they now?

556
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: The character or the actor. So in the end spoiler

557
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: alert for anyone listening, yeah, if you haven't finished, and

558
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: just like that, stop listening and let me just say

559
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: something else. We'rowne and has finished and just like that.

560
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: So at the end of the season, Miranda sort of

561
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: like in a manic Pixie moment, drops everything and moves

562
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: to La to be with Chay. While Chay is they're

563
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: filming their pilot and guess what else, Miranda dyes her

564
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: hair red. She's in the beginning, she had great. Yeah,

565
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: and that's actually sending mixed messages to me. Because you're

566
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: supposed to think gray hair is empowering, you will be wrong. Actually,

567
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: red hair, you're dead wrong. You're fucking dead wrong. Bitch.

568
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: She had given up and it was sad. Now she

569
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: has aathetic that she finally has a group back to bed.

570
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Now she's embracing her queer self. She's ditching her dead

571
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: ass husband dead but yeah, actually, yeah, that's right. He

572
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: dies actually, And also, but can you imagine her just

573
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: showing off when you're taking a pilot in La I worried? Well,

574
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen is basically the scene

575
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: is gonna be like Chay is shooting the pilot. Yeah,

576
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: Miranda comes up and Cynthia Nixon is really good at

577
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: doing this sort of a acting, this sort of desperation

578
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: that Miranda has. It just like that, it's like just

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00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: it's in the eyes. She's just like I need to

580
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: feel anything. And so she's going to show up to this,

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00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: to the set and be like Chay Chay and like waving,

582
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: and then she's gonna be like what is she doing here?

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00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do my job. Yes, and the security guard.

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00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: But you're right about that, because didn't she play this

585
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: character that had trapped in syndrome or something I thought

586
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: Miranda did or synthetics. Wasn't that her like she played

587
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: in YR or something like that. You know, where you

588
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: have something happens, do you get like a brain injury

589
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: and you're totally fine, but your body can't move. And

590
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: so she was only acting with her eyes? Would you

591
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: think you might think so easy? I get paid to

592
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: lie there all day, so difficult. I would never just wow.

593
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: So she's really um so yeah, I think for her

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00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: role as Miranda, yeah, just kind of nobody, just eyes

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: and you saw that. Wow, unless I was a completely

596
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: different actress. No, no, no, no, I think it sounds

597
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: like I recently watched did you know she's an Amadeus. Yeah.

598
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: Suddenly they like opened the door and she's like there.

599
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: She just like plays the cleaning lady, plays the cleaning

600
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: lad and she actually I don't want to ruin it,

601
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: but has a pretty big role. Oh, she's part of

602
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: a plan to sabotage something. Say that. Oh I haven't

603
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: watched the Yeah, yeah, exactly. She's running from air or governor, whichever,

604
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: whichever power you know. I went to her launch event

605
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Speaker 1: at Stone Roll Oh when you have to, I wish

606
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: I had. It was honestly a great night, I'm sure,

607
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: and I remember because she came out and the first

608
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: thing she said was and she said like ladies, gentlemen,

609
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: and those who reject the gender binary. That's how she

610
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: like started her speech. And I was like, well, she's losing,

611
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: she's losing, but she ate she's losing, but she ate

612
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: blacked the door. Yeah, I am a stand No, I was.

613
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: I was pumped. I genuinely was like, I love this.

614
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: She's very smart and would make a great politician, but

615
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: she has more important things to do, which is shoot

616
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: and just like that, Yeah, they're rebooting that. Actually she's

617
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 1: playing Amadeus. Okay, sorry, okay. Our first segment, Our first

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Speaker 1: segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment, we

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00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: ask you a series of rapid fire questions, is pastically

620
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Speaker 1: listening this other thing? To gauge your familiarity with and

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Speaker 1: complicity in straight culture. The only rule as you can't

622
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Speaker 1: ask any follow up questions or will um fly off

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Speaker 1: our rockers, We'll cut your camera. And I thought you're

624
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, cut your throat or I would never

625
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: say that cut was so intense and I was like, whoa,

626
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: but that's like killing me. Putting off the turning off

627
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Speaker 1: the camera. Yeah, we're actually gonna keep you here and

628
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Speaker 1: finish the episode, but turn off your spotlight so that

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Speaker 1: you look worse than in the video. I'd be so good. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on, let me find my notes. App Um, got it? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Maybe hbos Los of Spookies or RuPaul's drag race, Selena

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Speaker 1: s titties, Oh okay, taking the high road or taking

633
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: the subway. Taking the high road okay, a trend forecast

634
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: or a prophecy foretold, a prophecy foretold. Being a hoarder

635
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: or being inspired by Billy Porter, being inspired by Billy

636
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: Porter okay, walkable cities or petable kitties, middle brow trash,

637
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: being awarded or developing a rash that you need to

638
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: get sorted, developing ashted. Being concerned about the future of film,

639
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: understanding that whatever happens is God's will, that's good. Being

640
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: concerned to by the future of film. Keeping it mellow

641
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: and Marilago or starring an Othello as Iago, starting a

642
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: wow now can I ask, Yeah, what's the aim of it?

643
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: Your complicity too, but like, so to measure your complicity,

644
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: like you're being so deeply investigating there, you're being so like, um,

645
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: like oh I was a gifted child. Here's what's like.

646
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: This segment is like, yeah, basically there are two kinds

647
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: of thinking mathematical thinking and artistic thinking and what this

648
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: and women and men and women. But you're sort of

649
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: rejecting the gender binary by being a man right now

650
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: and doing mathematical thinking. Yeah. So basically what trips people

651
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: up with this segment is we ask things in a

652
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: mathematical way because we're like number is one thing or another, okay,

653
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: But then we judge you based on a performance rather

654
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: than any sort of like logical like, it is not

655
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: about whether you pick the right thing, and it is

656
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: not about whether you quote unquote know how it works.

657
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: It's about making an entry and putting up and making

658
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: an impact. It's essentially about nothing. There's no goal. Yeah,

659
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: it's more about sort of looking inward and you know,

660
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: learning to love yourself. I understand, and if I feel good,

661
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: actually yeah, I actually did a really good job until

662
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: of course the end, when you asked what the rules.

663
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: So I mean to say, seven hundred and thirty two

664
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: doves out of a thousand. Okay, I'm actually delighted with that.

665
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: That's good. Do you ever sort of like going back

666
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: to the mathematical verse statistic thinking? Yeah, do you ever

667
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: find yourself This happens to me a lot where I'll

668
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: be like really going in on something and someone will

669
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: tell me like, Okay, you made your point, and I'm like,

670
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't making a point. I was complaining your performance.

671
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: That is, if you thought I was making a point.

672
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: That is on you. No, that's a fight when you

673
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: when someone's like okay, you made your point. Ye yeah,

674
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: oh so you want of silence, right, Yeah, it's like,

675
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: well now I'm pissed. So it's also like you don't

676
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: care about pros like you just care about making a point.

677
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm not a politician. I'm a stylist. Yeah, and I'm

678
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: giving a critique and I'm giving a critique because there's

679
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: a lot of different angles to it. Yeah, and you're

680
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: not my editor, sweetheart. Oh this is the brainstorming sense actually,

681
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: But there's such an honesty and not because because what

682
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 1: I say to be maneflitive is like I'm just thinking

683
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:23,879
Speaker 1: this through one hundred thing. I know exactly what I'm saying. Yeah. Wow,

684
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: So it's much more honest to be like, I'm not

685
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: finished my performance exactly. Yeah, that's gorgeous, and actually just

686
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: accepting that every conversation is a performance. It is a

687
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: little duet, I mean even and by the way, there

688
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: is a winner. There's always a winner. This in particular,

689
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: I actually do feel more performative, of course, in a

690
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: way that is like, oh, like it's actually gonna help.

691
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: I think like we can this meaning us being recorded

692
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: and recorded and sitting around this table and knowing people

693
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: are literally like hired to like put up a light.

694
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, we're gonna want to play. We're we're

695
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: when I play. And it is about a dinner party

696
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: that goes wrong, and it's fully amprovised. I want to

697
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: talk about a dinner party aspect, but I don't know

698
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: if we should get into it right now. Okay, do

699
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: I know what you're I'm trying to do. I'm trying

700
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: to look into your eyes and okay, dinner party, no,

701
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 1: let's not okay. Should we need to get the observer effect? Okay? Yeah,

702
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: but I want oh what's the observer effect, Just the

703
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: thing watched changes the thing watched. Well, yes, that's okay,

704
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: that's actually sort of what I was attempting very poorly

705
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: to get at when I was talking about how like

706
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: ninety percent of being a celebrity is being able to

707
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: like tune out the cameras or whatever. It's like, Yeah,

708
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: in fact, you can't separate the materiality of the technology

709
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: no recording something from the performance itself or even the

710
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: awareness exactly. Yeah, that's why theater that that's literally like

711
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: the difference between meet different media, Like the medium of

712
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: theater is different from the medium of television and the

713
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: medium of film, partly because of the mechanics that make

714
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: it possible. I'm learning. Okay, I have a question for

715
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: you may have and I hate the fact that I'm

716
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: even asking this. I hate myself for asking this. Wow,

717
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: but I have it. But I but unfortunately, if we

718
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: have you here, there's like no way for me to

719
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: not ask this real question. Is I've had this theory

720
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: for at this point about a year and a half

721
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: that Ireland is trending, and I know that it's so

722
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: if someone said that to me about something I am

723
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: associated with, I would be like truly funck off. But

724
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: I can't forgive myself for not asking, well, gay's not

725
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: to me? It started with obviously, it started with Sally

726
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: Rooney and I think Name as marxis novel exactly. I

727
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: think Bantees of Inni Sharon was huge. I also think

728
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: there is a reaction against all the sort of like

729
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: Jubilee Queen dying attention that England got, and people are like, literally,

730
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: what is the alternative? In two minutes? No, I feel

731
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: Irish too, huh, bad sisters, Irish too, that's the other

732
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: that'd sisters. Wait, that was literally my third one and

733
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: I forgot Thank you, bad sisters. And um, it's so

734
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: funny because one thing I was thinking of as a

735
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: topic for this was like English and then I just

736
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: felt like, no, I don't want to get like into nationalism,

737
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: you know, like and be Irish in that way, but

738
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: like the English language. I meant, yes, very straight. But

739
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: then I think you're right, And it's so interesting that

740
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: you picked up in it, because whenever I go home,

741
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: there's like they're calling like the Celtic Revival or so,

742
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: but it's like a thing. Yeah, yeah, I wish we

743
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: had like a beld Ring the Celtic because I have

744
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: to say, like, it's really rare that sorry, I actually

745
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: you need to let you talk. But all I want

746
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: to say is that all these things I mentioned so

747
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: often when something is like trending, it's in a sense overrated.

748
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: But guess what. I love Avengers, They've been a shar

749
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I love Bad Sisters and ultimately critiques aside, I love

750
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: sal IRONI. It's all of it is good, which is

751
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: so rare. I'm almost afraid to put a name to

752
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: it because then someone's going to take advantage of it

753
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: and produce bad Irish art. Well, I mean, we'll see.

754
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: It's interesting that, like I went to The Quiet Girl,

755
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: is this Irish film that's in Irish, in Irish language,

756
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: and it's nominated for an Oscar plus like twenty five

757
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: percent of all acting nominees this year are Irish. Exactly.

758
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's a country Whish, like four point two

759
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: million people in it, very smart, smaller than the population

760
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: in New York. You know, it's tiny. But anyway, when

761
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: I go home, the thing that's interesting is more people

762
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: are learning Irish language. A lot of my friends who

763
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: lived in Dublin moved to the West coast of Ireland,

764
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: which is more like there's it's more I mean, it's

765
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: hard to explain, but like old Ireland, I suppose in

766
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: the way that like you'd picture so as in Dublin

767
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: is has like hate and m and Starbucks and it's

768
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: like the headquarters of Google and Facebook are there, and

769
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, Dublin. But then you know, if

770
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: you go to the other parts of Ireland, there's like

771
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: Irish speaking and just as slower pace like Greece, and

772
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: there very equivalent Like if you go to like they're

773
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: calling the villages in Greece, it's simply like yeah, it's

774
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: like you're in a different time period. Yeah. And if

775
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: you're an Athens, yeah, it's just like tricky because there's

776
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: a whole industry built around, like you know, the Irish diaspora,

777
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: and like there was a thing where people thought maybe

778
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: the boundaries was set now and it's said in nineteen

779
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: twenty three, so like sometimes I have to kind of

780
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: be careful, but I think you're right. And the thing

781
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: about it is the art coming out of Ireland I

782
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: think is really cool at the moment. And but a

783
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: funny thing about that too, Like when I went to

784
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: see The Quieker, like the movie here. Yeah, it was

785
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: you know, like a New York screening where they invited

786
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: a bunch of Irish people and there was a state

787
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: minister there, like, you know, just this guy who came

788
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: out like a young government minister from Ireland because like

789
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: it was funded like a lot by Irish government. And

790
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: I got asked because I write as well, you know,

791
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: and I got like an email from like the Irish

792
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Tourist Board being like we're taking journalists to the island

793
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: where the Banshees of Industry was filmed, and you know,

794
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: we'd bring you there for three days and three nights

795
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: and like I was like a dream. But like the

796
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: government is like supporting the film industry in that very

797
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: intense way, so that helps. Yeah, you know I didn't

798
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 1: do that, no, absolute no, because like, yeah, tell me,

799
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I almost went to that screening of the Choir Girl. Oh,

800
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: I like had something with my sister or something that

801
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: day and I couldn't go. But I it's very special films, Okay,

802
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I need to watch it. It's beautiful, yeah it is.

803
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: And it's also like I think a good example of

804
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: Irishness because it's it's not playing and it's not um

805
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's like not too dark either, because like

806
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: a lot of especially Irish theater is just like the

807
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: baby died and the baby still did and like there

808
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: is a bit of that, but like it's not too much,

809
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: so it gets that nice balance and there's just like

810
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: very cool, very young Irish people and doing interesting things

811
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: I think, And yeah, even aside from Sally Rooney, I

812
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: mean I guess, yeah that's what I think. Yeah. Wow,

813
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: well I'm really glad I asked. I can't believe that's.

814
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: I love when you have something that's actually for a

815
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: guest specific I know, and then it's correct. Well I

816
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: really have really, yeah, I really have been. Like so

817
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: much of the stuff I've enjoyed over the past year

818
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: has some Irish also, like Rashie Murphy were releasing new album.

819
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: There's just like there are things happening constantly and I'm

820
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: always like I gotta go. Oh. And also so many

821
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: people know we're traveling Ireland, which I don't know how

822
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: that is, like because as you know, as someone who

823
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: like is from a very touristy place, I know that

824
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: that can be a double edged sword, where like sometimes

825
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: increased tourism can be bad for the locals. But is

826
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,359
Speaker 1: that something that you're well, your family has. I mean

827
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: it's it's like five it's only five and a half hours,

828
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: so you know. I always say like it's closer than

829
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and it is. I think it is. Yeah,

830
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ireland. I love to do a live

831
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: show and where Bunches of Insurance was. Oh, like I

832
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: would say, it's so gorgeous and part of me, Like

833
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: when I see like The Quaker, which is set in

834
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: like where play my grandmother's from, and the Banshees where

835
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: it's an island, and like it's you know, so familiar

836
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: to me, and I feel I do feel like what

837
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: am I doing here? Yeah? Totally feel that kid when

838
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: I go back to Greece, Yeah, it's like yeah, literally,

839
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, Ireland is even the country than Greeces.

840
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: So I do think for you it would be slightly

841
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: more of a possibility, like I literally don't even know

842
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: what it would move back in a cafe, but yeah,

843
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like everything is cheaper, it is beautiful, the

844
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: weather is better, my family is there. You're sort of like,

845
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: why am I getting sweet? Green. I know, I know,

846
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: but it's just you know, for now, yes, of course,

847
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: things well it's changing. Like I said earlier, we don't

848
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: know the end until we're dead. It's true, remember I said, yeah,

849
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: and I will could be the last one you ever have.

850
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: You might get barred from Sweet Green. Actually yeah, um,

851
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: well I think that. I mean, all this international talk

852
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: leads so well into our topic. Maybe tell us what

853
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: you've brought today in sort of what about it is

854
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: straight to you? Okay, So my topic is green card

855
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: marriages slash the K one fiance visa. Okay, so that's

856
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: the step you take before or you do a green

857
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: card marriage. If you're an American engaged to somebody from

858
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: a different country, then they come over here and they

859
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: have three months to decide, you know, they have to

860
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: leave at the end of three months or they have

861
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: to get married. Which is why it was like a

862
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: genius taking clock idea for the TV show Nine to

863
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Day Fiance. I didn't realize it was literally the frame

864
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: the legal fens by the government. Yeah, that's crazy, isn't

865
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: that crazy? But I and I was thinking to myself,

866
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very straight, you know, because it's obviously

867
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: like all contracted, it's basic, it's marriage. But then I

868
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: was like I should check, So I was like looking

869
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: at just on my phone on my way, like, I

870
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: was like looking at the data, and it's almost all

871
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: women who come over to get married to straight men

872
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: interest in America. Does that make it straight? I think

873
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: that makes first of all, yes, that makes But at

874
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: the same time, it's a sleigh because it's women doing it,

875
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: then it's kind of like, well, if it's women doing it,

876
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 1: then they're taking charge of their lives. Yeah, yeah, and

877
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: they're manipulating, manipulating it what they want. Yeah. You just

878
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 1: have to be married for two years, I think, and

879
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: then you get your citizenship and then you can get divorced.

880
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 1: Then you can get divorced, but you do have to

881
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: say for two years. Here's my question in ninety day Fiance,

882
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: which I wish I had done some research and watch

883
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: some of ninety Fiance, is there any pretense of them

884
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: attempting to actually have a relationship or is it purely transactional. No,

885
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: you have to convince the government, you have to get

886
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: letters from your friends. There's a whole process where you

887
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: have to convince people that it's real. Okay, so there's

888
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: no there's like it's like a cover up of the transaction,

889
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: which is you know, I think you don't have to

890
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: have seen the show. I don't think even though it's

891
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: one of the most popular shows in I know it's crazy. Yeah,

892
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean one of our blind spots is reality television. Yeahstand,

893
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: we don't know. We watched drag Race and that's kind

894
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: of yeah. And then I in the past I have

895
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: watched One of the Housewives and VANDERPMP roles, but it's

896
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: been years, so well, I'm not a big watcher either.

897
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: But my friend works on night worked on Night to

898
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: Day Fiance, and I got so curious about it because

899
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: I could hear her sometimes interfewing the men here, and

900
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: like you have to be like you want to put

901
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: people on TV that are like funny and like maybe weird,

902
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: but like not like disgusting. Yeah. Right, So the men

903
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: want a girlfriend, yeah, and they have I mean, really

904
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: they want a wife. They want a wife. Yeah. And

905
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: here's my question, I guess is like why do they

906
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: prefer an international wife to an American? Right, because the

907
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 1: assumption is of course that they like can't find a

908
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: wife without like, you know, having something to manif say, So,

909
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's like these men that feel

910
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: like they could not get a wife unless they have

911
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: something to offer her. Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah,

912
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: I mean that that's the assumption. Yeah, I mean some

913
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: of them gave other justifications, like they're like you know,

914
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: like often problem things like I just prefer Filipino and

915
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: women to the Celtic Revival, so like let's do it. Yeah. Yeah,

916
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: she's the next Salarly Rooney. Actually she is Salarly Reony, Sallyway,

917
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: Sally Rooney. Yeah, girl, you do not have to do this.

918
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: You're successful. No, that's like just goes to show you,

919
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: like how messed up the book industry. Yeah, she's like,

920
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm doing it to take a point normal people. Okay,

921
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: I am one, Yeah exactly. Yeah, I don't know. I

922
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: m I think that they I mean, American citizenship isn't

923
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: is a real price, of course, you know, but it's

924
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: also when I think about it, I think about, like

925
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: is that everything they have? Like that's all they have? Right,

926
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: because like you think, okay, you want to be in

927
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: a transaction with what you want to be. You want

928
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: to like make a contract like you marry someone in

929
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: that way, you're saying, like I'm giving you this and

930
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: you're giving me this, And really that's what they're saying.

931
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 1: They're just saying, I have us just by dint of

932
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: being born. They're like, this is all I've got. And

933
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: often they're very very poor, like they're from like really

934
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: isolated parts of America. These are not, like you know,

935
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: they're like kind of high achieving. They're not the Rowan

936
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: fiers of the of America, got it. Yeah, but what

937
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: they do have is American citizenship. Wow. There's something so

938
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: deeply sad about that. Yeah. Well that's why I'm the

939
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: only person at point of that app whoa biting cultural commentary. Yeah,

940
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: so I think that's sort of devastating. Basically my response,

941
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to speak. Sorry, not to be condescending by

942
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: the way I think they deserve love. No, thank you

943
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: for saying that I'm seeing. But for me, yeah, it

944
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: makes me want to slap my arrest wiped a smile

945
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: off my face. Wow. Wow, Yeah, I mean it's sad.

946
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: It's also like it makes for a good TV of course.

947
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm sure you feel this way as a

948
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: as someone who immigrated to America. But like growing up,

949
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: the pursuit of Americans citizenship was like the number one

950
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: thing in my family. It was like there are you know,

951
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: there are five of us. I luckily was me and

952
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: one of my one of my sisters and I were

953
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: both born here, so we had to begin with and

954
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: the other three members of our family were not born here.

955
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: So there was this like you know, it was like

956
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: my dad was close to getting it, but then he

957
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: had to return to Greece to do his mandatory military service.

958
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: But then the clock went back to zero of like

959
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: how long he had lived here when he came back.

960
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: And then like my other my youngest sister had to

961
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: be here for a certain amount of time before we

962
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: moved back to greet Like it is, citizenship is so

963
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: genuinely kafka esque and changes like every the priorities changed

964
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: with every government and every five years, and depending on

965
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: who is lobbying who to get what kind of immigrants

966
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: in America. And so the idea of any kind of

967
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: shortcut is genuinely extremely alluring because it is so difficult

968
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 1: to do it quote unquote the right, you know, the

969
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: acceptable way. And I would say, like the greatest thing

970
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: in American can do is like Marie Summer to give

971
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: them a green care Like I'm all for that. I

972
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: really think. Like it's like, you know, people are like, well,

973
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: what can we do about immigrations? Isn't broke it like

974
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 1: Mary want Mary immigrants? Yeah, but you know it's not that,

975
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: like you do have to prove that. It's really like

976
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: and it's like money and you have to make sure

977
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: like if you're an American citizen and you marry some

978
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: of they go through all your taxes and everything. You know,

979
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: you have to be like kind of on the ball.

980
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: So that's kind of hard for some people. My boyfriends. No,

981
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: but um, it's true, Like it's a stupid system. So

982
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you shouldn't do that, like it's

983
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: like a terrible system. You should Oh my god, no

984
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: part of me. It's like when people are accused of

985
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: like doing fraud to like get out of work, like

986
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: pretending they have a disability or something to get out

987
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: of work. I'm like, yeah, you should do that. That's good.

988
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: That's good, and more like that's more like good, Like

989
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: everyone should pretend to have a disability and get married. Yeah, well,

990
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: and marriage is supposed to be a transaction anyway, I

991
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: like some of people in America get married for like

992
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: health insuring. Yes, And it's like that's the big push

993
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, well it would be better for

994
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,479
Speaker 1: taxes and health insurance, so let's go for it. Yeah,

995
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: it's like why not add a little green card in there?

996
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's like it's the straightest thing about it

997
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: in a sense, is is exactly that it's like marriage

998
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: as a business proposition, yeah, which is the core of

999
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: one of the and also then adding on top of

1000
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: that a layer of performance of like well we have

1001
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: to have a photo album proving we're in love. Yeah,

1002
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: and we can't say it's a business transaction exactly, say

1003
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: it's for love. So in some sense it's actually emblematic

1004
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: of the larger institution of straight marriage. Makes the sub

1005
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: text texts that's true, it's true. Yeah, that's what I

1006
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: was going to say. Actually, yeah, we dominating it some

1007
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: text texts actually, and it's very intrusive to also, queer

1008
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: couples do obviously get married and you know, um, but

1009
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: like and get green cards through marriage and stuff. But

1010
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: like you do have to sometimes they ask you about

1011
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: your sex life, and like you have to who's the

1012
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: bottom literally Joe Biden being like, so who does what?

1013
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: So you're in honor? Are you guys open play together? Separate?

1014
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: What is it? You definitely couldn't. I bet you couldn't

1015
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: say you were in an open marriage if oh, I'm

1016
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: sure not if you were doing your interview. No, you

1017
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: have to be Christian and Republican. Yeah, yeah, and it

1018
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 1: did come. I could be wrong, but I think the

1019
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: k one that visa was because of like soldiers you know,

1020
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: abroad who were like, I want to bring this girl back,

1021
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: you know if from maybe Korea, Vietnam, I don't know,

1022
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: totally totally, Yeah, yeah, I think that's or maybe even

1023
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: World War two, because there's like Americans all over the

1024
00:56:55,640 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: world bringing back women. God so jealousy. It will take truly,

1025
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: like generations to undo the damage of heterostic reality. It's

1026
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: crazy to be like, yeah, there's a rich tradition of

1027
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: men bringing women back, and it's like whoa, whoa, yeah

1028
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: wait what And the government was like, oh, we have

1029
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: to organize this, Yeah, we have to organize. Well, the

1030
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: men want it, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, law. But it's

1031
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: just really confusing too because they first, like a lot

1032
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: of the like the anti like the Chinese Exclusion Act

1033
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: y was a lot of that was like fake supposedly

1034
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: to like stop sex work. So it's like, well, what

1035
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: do you want? Then? Oh, what you're saying like we're

1036
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: not bringing in anyone because they're sex workers not true.

1037
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: But then they're like, oh, we'll allow you to bring

1038
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: in like the women that you want to have sexes. Right.

1039
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: It seems like it's sort of like the two things

1040
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: taken into account or what a man wants and how

1041
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 1: mates what a man wants, what a man needs, and

1042
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: is it in the Bible and if it passes those

1043
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: three tests, yeah, I gotta take out a babe, bring whoever, whoever,

1044
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: just keep it quiet. I feel like green card marriages

1045
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: are such a trope in TV and film. Yeah, like

1046
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: The Proposal and like Unwill and Grace famously, Tay Diggs

1047
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: played a guy Will was into, but he was Canadian,

1048
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: and so Grace offered to marry him. Oh I didn't

1049
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: know that, just to like bring him. I think I

1050
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: saw one of these upside. Yeah, I mean it's a

1051
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: very sitcom the ninety day things very it's very sitcom. Yeah,

1052
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: and having to prove your love to like a government

1053
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: officials like inherently comedic, and it's like, so I get it.

1054
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: I get why you would run to it. For of course,

1055
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean they also have they have all these spinoff

1056
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: shows too, call like ninety Day the other way, so

1057
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: where like the American goes abroad, and that's incredible because

1058
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: often so like the major already of those visas are

1059
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: for Philippinea women. And then so like the men American

1060
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: men like goes to the Philippines and they just don't

1061
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: have a clue like what's going on. And they're from

1062
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, like rural America somewhere, and they've never traveled

1063
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: around anything. And then they just like go to the

1064
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: Philippines and then they're just like out of their minds. Wow,

1065
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: well that sounds a little more playful. That's fun to watch.

1066
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: That wouldn't make you too sad, I don't think. Yeah,

1067
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: what you know. In the words of m I A. Botos,

1068
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: what's up with that? And her paper planes? You know

1069
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: paper planes are visas? Oh my god, that's right. Yeah,

1070
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: but also borders, what's up with that? One of the

1071
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: most important statements ever said in music when she said

1072
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: that politics change. Wait, actually, I just want to be candid.

1073
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: I did not know paper planes were visas, and I

1074
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: pretended I did, And now I want you to explain.

1075
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: So it's so paper planes, So that song is also

1076
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: about borders obviously. Well yeah, it's like, well, not that

1077
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: we both didn't know. Hold on, hold on, um all

1078
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: I want to do? Okay, then I yeah, what's the Well,

1079
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: I think maybe let's not look too much into it

1080
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: because I think it's not imagine if I just made

1081
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: it up. I'm just sweating sitting here. I don't think

1082
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: about it too. I think, yeah, paper planes, are they

1083
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: allow you to travel? Yes? Yeah, that's well wait, you

1084
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: were gonna say borders with that? Yeah? Is that what

1085
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: you're actually thinking? Literally? Yeah, I don't know. I know

1086
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: it's insane another country and it's like why is this

1087
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: so difficult? Yeah? Like I'm like, shouldn't we just like

1088
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: hop off the plane and get in a car? I know?

1089
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: And it's also like just okay, well, I guess it

1090
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: comes down to I understand the point of my political

1091
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: beliefs aside, I understand theoretically the point of borders. I'm

1092
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: not like an I'm not like why I understand sports

1093
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: team exactly. Yes, like countries need different flags, and they

1094
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: need anthems to be performed at the Olympics. Yeah, and

1095
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: there also needs to be like a Best International Future

1096
01:00:55,240 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: award at the OSCARS. It's pretty simple. Yeah, but the

1097
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 1: idea that like a foreigner is inherently more evil than

1098
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: someone living in your country is truly so arbitrary when

1099
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: you think about how many evil people exist in every country. Yeah,

1100
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: and also how they just change all the time. Yes,

1101
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: Like the Philippines was like a US colony basically for

1102
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: a while, so like why are they acting now, like oh,

1103
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: you need a special you know, like America took part

1104
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: of Mexico. Like it's so they're so fluids. Yes, orders are,

1105
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: but not for only if you're powerful, you know. Yeah, Um,

1106
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I don't know about them. Like

1107
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: the visa is still I do like your what you

1108
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: said about like the women who come over is like

1109
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: their destiny too, and they're like I'm doing this, like

1110
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting this, and there's definitely I do whatever I

1111
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: want exactly, and it's like and in many ways they

1112
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: have more power than the man. I mean, I understand

1113
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: that the man has the trip, which is what is

1114
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: at stake. Yeah, but the men are. It's so funny

1115
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: what they believe about themselves though, the straight guy like

1116
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: they think they're not desperate. Yeah yeah, and they think

1117
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: that she loves them. Oh, they fully think often that's

1118
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: just she she just loves them, you know, sweet, And

1119
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 1: it's like so nice because like no American woman loved

1120
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: him yea, And now here's this woman who's like beautiful

1121
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: and young and she just loves him, she wants to

1122
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: live with him, and they totally I think they do

1123
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: believe it. Oh, I'm trying to find a positive sorry,

1124
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: trying to only read it as like good, yeah, she

1125
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: does love it nice, right, sisters are doing it for

1126
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: the realm. That's really nice. I know of only one,

1127
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: um gay version of like in like a personal life.

1128
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I my instinct when you said that

1129
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: the other day, it was like I also know gay versions,

1130
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: but now I can't think of any of them because

1131
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, hm, I'm sure I know. I think think

1132
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: I think I know a few like Canada US Oh yeah, couples,

1133
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: which I think is like it's sort of like everything

1134
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: we're talking about without any of the politics. Yeah, sort

1135
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: of like well there's a Canadian yeah, yeah, yeah, because

1136
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: because it's for Canadians. There's like tons of undocumented Canadians

1137
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: in America. And then it's only when you kind of

1138
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: get into it, I guess, go back to where you

1139
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: came from. M Yeah, yeah, the one I know. I

1140
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: literally think it's like the gay guys American, but then

1141
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: I think the man he married is like actually straight. Whoa, Oh,

1142
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: so it's literally like a green card marriage. Yeah, and

1143
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: it's like, literally, do you think any money change tons?

1144
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I think actually it's possible. But it's like a juicy one.

1145
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: And it also just sounded like hot. Like I was like, oh,

1146
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: you guys like pretend to be in a couple sometimes

1147
01:03:56,720 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: with the governor, like the husband has a girlfriend. I

1148
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: cannot believe you. There is nothing you won't turn into

1149
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 1: like a fetish. It's just a lot married government official

1150
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: comes down and you guys have to like sleep in

1151
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: the same bed. They like turn on the TV and

1152
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: they've like planned it, so it's a sex tape of them, like, oh, sorry,

1153
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: didn't mean for you to see that, but that's just

1154
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: what we do all night and do like the idea

1155
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: of them putting together photo albums. So you need to

1156
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: go like maybe high a photographer and like go through

1157
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: different seasons and everything, you know, like different costumes you

1158
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: and this guy. Yeah. Yeah, well that's a classic sitcom thing.

1159
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that, Like I feel like I've seen

1160
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: that montage of Yeah, there was a Jared depper Dove film.

1161
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying his name wrong, I'm sure, but like, and

1162
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: it was called Green Carriage, and I think that, like,

1163
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: you know, they really did fall in love, like they

1164
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: like it was arranged and then they really did fall

1165
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: in love. But like, if you are doing a big

1166
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: trick together, like if you are doing a big like

1167
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: putting the ball over the government side and stuff, then

1168
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: that is like that does bond Yeah. Yeah, and probably

1169
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: if you're doing you trust each other a lot. I

1170
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: mean you don't want to risk being in another relationship

1171
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: and having that found out, So probably you'll be single

1172
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: that entire time. Yeah, yeah, you are doing you are

1173
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: you have a common secret? Yeah, it's something that bonds you.

1174
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: A lot of PaperWorks together, a lot of paperwork, you know,

1175
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: your heads together over the picture. Yeah, and then after

1176
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: you handle like after two years, you're like, well, what

1177
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: do I want to do? You start from scratch, Like yeah,

1178
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: at this point. I know this person probably better than

1179
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: I would a random person I went on a few

1180
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: dates with. Yeah, better the American definitely. No, Yeah, stay

1181
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: with them, let's make it work. It's been two years. Wow,

1182
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: should be yeah in our final segment, I think so.

1183
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts on No, I just want to really

1184
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: apologize for bringing you both down and yeah, thank you

1185
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 1: feel Paul to the listeners, I'm sorry, Ronan, I'm sorry.

1186
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: But a nice way obviously to lift everyone's spirits to

1187
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,479
Speaker 1: be a little proposal. Oh my god, who's gonna propose?

1188
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Do you want us to propose? No,

1189
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Are you I don't have a green car.

1190
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: You don't have a green so in some senses you're single.

1191
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: Here's wait, I have a question. Are you You don't

1192
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: have to answer this if you don't. Are you single? Yeah? Okay,

1193
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: well I would like to say that. If I do,

1194
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is because I'm not Seriously, I'm like,

1195
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, if any listeners want to propose to mave

1196
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: slide into the slide in the m I have had

1197
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 1: friends offer. I mean, I just don't need it, like

1198
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, as in like I have a really good

1199
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 1: visa and everything. Um, but I have had friends like

1200
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: offer debitally, but and if I was stuck, I totally

1201
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: you've considered it. Yeah. Yeah, you'd rather marry a Randa

1202
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: than go back and join the Celtic Revival and say

1203
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: say goodbye to Sweet Green Forever. You can be in

1204
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: it too, the Celtic Rival. I would love to Yeah,

1205
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: I love to be in the Celtic Rival. I would

1206
01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 1: actually love to be in Bad Sister season two. I

1207
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: actually I would drive as like the American in like

1208
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: a show. Yeah, yeah, you're walking and I'd be like,

1209
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm here. Sharon Horgan to me

1210
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: is like true mother. I love I really love her.

1211
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: And one time, years ago, one time, years ago, someone

1212
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: told me that she someone on her team quote unquote

1213
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: told me she had read something I had written. And

1214
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: I I suspect he was lying. I suspect it was

1215
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: like she loved it everyone in this town. Yeah, but

1216
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 1: to this day I have chosen to believe it. Yeah,

1217
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, she's just waiting for the right time, didn't

1218
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: get it done. I'm sure that's true. Yeah, I'm sure.

1219
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean this was like six years ago. Yeah, she

1220
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,000
Speaker 1: was reading a lot back. Maybe she's gonna call me

1221
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: after this episode comes then she's like, oh my god,

1222
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: I had forgotten about that. Yes, we love to make it.

1223
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: You know. I went to like a talk that she

1224
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: did years ago when I was living in Ireland pre

1225
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: revival and Sad was the last of us I've got

1226
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: to go. I felt there in twenty ten. Honestly, there's

1227
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: a real and she was doing, you know, like a

1228
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: screenwriter's talk organized by like I can't remember who, but

1229
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 1: like it was at the Writer's thing its center, and

1230
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: there was only women in the audience. Well you know,

1231
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: it's like only women can go and see a woman talk,

1232
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: and there's like more male screenwriters in Ireland than there

1233
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: are females. But like Sharon Horgan was talking and she's

1234
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 1: like a genius. Obviously now this was before, but it

1235
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: was after pulling it, Like you know, she was like

1236
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: up there already and clearly so funny and great. But anyway,

1237
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: that's like not my resounding memory of her, but sometimes

1238
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: I kind of needle on that one thinking about it. There.

1239
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: I know they could have like listened to Sharon Horgan

1240
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: ten years ago like I did. Look at me now,

1241
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: it helped so much. It's crazy that you can even

1242
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,320
Speaker 1: be Sharon Horgan and people will still not listen to you.

1243
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: I know, because you're a woman. It's what more can

1244
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: you do? You're Sharon Horgan. No no more sad, No

1245
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: more sad. Listening to right now and I'm engaged. Wait okay,

1246
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: oh my god. My idea for Sharon Horgan's next show

1247
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: that will combine Green Card Marriages and the Celtic Revival.

1248
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: It's literally starting you and you're in You're in a

1249
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: green card marriage with who's a hot who has a mole,

1250
01:09:51,960 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: is American and can play straight really well? U oh no,

1251
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: oh my god. I would love it if he was

1252
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: Rona you starring in a great part Sharon Horrigan show

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01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: on Apple to Yes, yeah, and far would have to

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Speaker 1: be in the two as she just would be his mom. Yes,

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: that's right. It's like her Big Commick is just like

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01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: a light comedy. She's like ron Man, who is this girl?

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01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: He plays himself? Yeah, he plays himself. He plays himself.

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01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: She plays herself. Yes, you play yourself and you play yourself.

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01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: It's a reality show rather and by the way, we'd

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: d and you're doing a podcast part of it. Wow.

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01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's final segment. Okay, um, well you introduced this. Yes,

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 1: there was nothing, there would be nothing. I want more

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01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 1: in my life. Um So I'm just thinking of what

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: men want, what met need and is it in the Bible?

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01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 1: My iconic joke from earlier that everyone loved that was

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Speaker 1: um May. Our final segment is called shout Outs, and

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01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: in this segment we pay homage to a classic straight

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01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: artistic tradition, the radio shout out. Think you know MTVS TRL,

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: think you're calling into a radio show and shouting out

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 1: your squad back home. We want to shout out something

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01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: that we that we've been loving lately and that we

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to. And guess what

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01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: I don't have one? Guess what I have one? Whoa? Yeah? Okay,

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 1: go off? What's up freak flus and perverts? Sam here,

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01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: I just want to give a huge shout out to

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Speaker 1: spring lighting. I feel the sun has changed in the

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01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: last week and it is completely different now. And yes,

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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: it's still cold when we're recording this. It is early

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,560
Speaker 1: early March, but the lighting is different and it is

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01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: like I feel when I'm looking out a window, like

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01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: oh I bet it's warm outside and that even just

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01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: thinking that for a moment does wonders for my mood.

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: I feel on top of the world. I feel like

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: like I'm actually remembering the version of myself from last

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01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 1: spring and last summer that was smarter, funnier, more well adjusted,

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: more well read. And I can see that version of

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01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: me coming back, and he is ready to stalk the

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01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: wrong way. So shout out to spring Lighting. I see

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 1: and I feel warm. What's up listeners out there in

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01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: all countries? There are no boarders on this podcast. I

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to the linen lobby

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: for convincing me for the past thirty years that I

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01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: want a linen suit, despite the fact that every time

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: I try one on it looks like fucking shit. Hey, look,

1295
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: it is wrinkly, in fact, weirdly. You think it's gonna

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01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: be good for warm weather, but it's still a suit.

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: You might as well just wear a normal suit. And

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01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna look good in a lighter color,

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01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 1: but guess what suits are meant to be dark folks.

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Speaker 1: And guess what Despite all of that, despite the fact

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01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 1: that I recently tried on the linen suit and it

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01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: went into my butt and I have not seen any

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 1: pants go into my butt. For I am after this

1304
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 1: recording going and trying on another linen suit because I

1305
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 1: can't get over the fact that I need one for

1306
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: summer weddings this year and I'm going to one in

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: a month, and I need to wear a linnen suit

1308
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: because the invite said linen suits are okay, and I

1309
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: took that as an order, and guess what. None of

1310
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: them are gonna look good. But I am going to

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01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: overpay for them and then I'm going to wear them

1312
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,040
Speaker 1: and not post the climbing I look bad. No, this

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01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: is really smart. Actually, I think linen suits are only

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01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: meant for like film sets because it always a stimmerf

1315
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: like yeah, just off cam like they always look good

1316
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: in movies and TV shows and in ads, and then

1317
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: it's like but then you sit down once and it's

1318
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 1: like a wrinkly mess. It's truly. I mean, I feel

1319
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: this way about linen sheets too, which I should have

1320
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: mentioned the shout outs and goes back to the linen lot.

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is the deal with linen? Why are

1322
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,160
Speaker 1: we still pretending? And yet and yet, like I said,

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01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not joking that I'm going to go try

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01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: on another suit after this. Where are you going? Ja

1325
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: Crow classic and the baggie the bag out at the knees. Yes, yeah, yeah,

1326
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: there's just yeah. Also, I have to say not to

1327
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 1: get too real about a body image on this podcast,

1328
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: but as someone who struggles with body image, suits are

1329
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: actually really uh something I love wearing because they are

1330
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: structured in a way that like, no matter what your

1331
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: body type is as a gentleman, it makes you just

1332
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 1: sort of look like a candall because the shoulder pads

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01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: and because of the way it's and linen. Suits are unstructured,

1334
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: so you also don't feel as hot as you would

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: and wearing a normal suit, it's just sort of like,

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01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 1: this is your body type and we're putting a thing

1337
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: on it, we're drapings. And yet I really hope it's

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01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: that's what when I go, I bet it will, I

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: bet it's cool. Okay, maybe maybe whenever you're ready. Oh

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01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's ready. Yeah, Okay, shout that because

1341
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: I never did want to me so I wrote down

1342
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: shout out to all of my currently haired women with

1343
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: classes working in wool shots aka yarn stores all around

1344
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: the world. I know your shy girls all you care

1345
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: about is the fabric art community. Guess what I care

1346
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: about do? Watching you light up when I asked you

1347
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 1: about kitchener stitch makes me believe the world's going to

1348
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: be okay and um, and maybe a stitch in time

1349
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: really will save nine. I love you as much as

1350
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: you love knitting, and how can you even measure? Excuse me,

1351
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: how could you even measure that? It's an Infinity scarf

1352
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: and you're both ends baby? Yeah, I was incredible and

1353
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 1: it was a great tie into your product line. I wait,

1354
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe I ran out of time and didn't

1355
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about your product line. Yeah, I don't have a

1356
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 1: disc is just for me and so it's just one piece.

1357
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: It's just one Yeah, you can charge millions and it

1358
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 1: smells like bed bath and beyond that cherry color palette

1359
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 1: is like so sophisticated. Oh, thank you so much. It

1360
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 1: really is. It's like those three together can only you

1361
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: have to be talented to like make it work. Like

1362
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 1: they couldn't sell that at j CRU No, m no,

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: it took a long time. It's forced and with more

1364
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 1: hair held together. Wow, So it did take me ages.

1365
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: And in fact, it's so funny because I absolutely hated

1366
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: it when I made it and I tried it on

1367
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: and it took me so long, and I was nearly

1368
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: going to give it to charity, and then I thought, no,

1369
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 1: it's too crop for the Charlie's shop because there's a

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01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: few mistakes. I don't know if you can see them

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01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: like this. Well, we love imperfections. Yeah, it's like a

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: male for your clothes. Wow. Well, thank god this is

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01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: a visual podcast now, I know truly. I was like,

1374
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 1: we have to get a photo, but then I remembered

1375
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 1: it's going to be on YouTube, a photo video VideA. Well,

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01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be here for your very first YouTube podcasts.

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:38,559
Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you. Yeah, thanks so much

1378
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: for doing it. What light? What do I? Well? Bye,