1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I'm 3 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson and Matt Friend of 4 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: the show, Cynthia Freeland does put out a list of 5 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: the NFL's most underappreciated players. Yeah, I one for every 6 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: team NFC and NFC and uh well, I think if 7 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: you look at the Dealer's roster, there would be a 8 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: lot of guys who could maybe potentially be on that list. 9 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot in the last segment we had, 10 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about Tonch and b J. Finney. 11 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: I think there's some offensive lineman that could very well 12 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: be on that list. I think you'd go with like 13 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: four offensive right, absolutely, absolutely, anybody not named David de 14 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Castro is underappreciated and appreciates there all not getting a 15 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: whole lot of respect from the national media. I could 16 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: say that. Yeah. Um. Now, her choice for the Steelers 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm looking here at the at the a f C 18 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: side of things right now is Alex Highsmith, and she 19 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: has some good data backing it up. I read this. 20 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: I mean she's very nerdy about his get off and 21 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: his shoulder squareness and things like that. I thought was 22 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Yeah, she just said that in his 23 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: rookie season, the third rounder made a tackle on nearly 24 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: ten percent of his snaps. It was a nine point 25 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: nine percent tackle rate that was the second highest rate 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: among edge defenders last season with the minimum of four steps. 27 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: She said, well, I don't expect that his rate to 28 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: stay that high. With the departure Bud Duprex, he'll be 29 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: playing a higher volume of snaps and have a more 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: visible role that will command more attention. But I do 31 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: expect big things to continue. The two main reasons for that, 32 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: in terms of his speed, in his first three yards 33 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: traveled high Smith was in the top ten percent in 34 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. He said when we talked to him, was 35 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: that he wanted to work on his getoff. Was off 36 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: is already pretty good now, maybe you know when you're 37 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: measuring it against what in Dupree, who had they were 38 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: They were number they were tied for first last year 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: and that in that get off time, so you're looking 40 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: at them going, well, these guys get off really fair. 41 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: I gotta get as fast as them. Even though your 42 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: your get off is still pretty good on its own. 43 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: That can't be an accident. I mean I wonder sort 44 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: of a chicken in the egg situation, if we have 45 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert and by Tom and here you given him 46 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: truth sire, and would they say that's one of the 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: absolute first things we look for when we practice position 48 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: or is that the thing we value the most? Period? 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: Is that the thing we try developed the most? You know, 50 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: you said they practiced at a time every day. Yeah, 51 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not sure to do other teams, I 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. I couldn't tell you, 53 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: and I only know this one does every single day 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: during their warm ups. You can't tell me it's an 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: accident that they have three of the three guys in 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: the top ten percent. You know, I mean they're either 57 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: get have a really high baseline when they get here, 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: or they're being developed like crazy with their get off, 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: or they just have those traits and that you know, 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: to build off of. But this is great for for Heismith. Yeah, 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: her number two reason why his hips stayed. Maybe you 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: can explain this as a scout. His hips stayed facing 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback even after contact at a rate in the 64 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: top fifteen percent. She said, This helps predict recovery in 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: pursuit of pressure. Yeah, you're not getting knocked offline. I 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: guess we'll be right. You know, I think this this 67 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: metric is new and she and she's really really involved 68 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: with and I've had a conversation with her two about 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: it too. I mean, she judges if you just look 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: at the hip to hip on a human being and 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: use that as a flat surface. Basically, I think she's 72 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: determining a lot with is that parallel line of scrimmage 73 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: perpendicular line of scrimmage perpendicular to your target, which in 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: this case is the quarterback. I know she does a 75 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: lot with it with corners and receivers to judge separation. 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: I think she does the same thing with pass rush 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: and pass rushers, you know how, you know. I think 78 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm more from an offensive tackles perspective that if you 79 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: get your hips too far far turned up field, then 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: you're susceptible, or if you can't flip your hips and 81 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: get open, you're gonna go right around you. So I'm 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: not exactly sure how to interpret it for a pass rusher. 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: But my thoughts originally just reading that sentence are he's 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: got his hips aligned on his target. That's not always 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: gonna stay there, so if you have to move left 86 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: or right, you don't have to move as far left 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: or right to adjust to your target. Is one thing 88 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about. With you keep your base underneath you 89 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and you stay on target. It could be more like, 90 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like the basketball analogy, where you know, 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: when you're telling somebody, hey, you're when you're guarding somebody, 92 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: I would say, basketball defense, you're watching, You're watching essentially 93 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: his belly button, everything else that happens, that's gonna tell 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: you where he's going. Yeah. I was taught my uh 95 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: flag football kids, just stare at his belt buckle because 96 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: all the juke in and all this other stuff because 97 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: will spend you wrong as a tackler. But I think 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: it's really true as a basketball defender for sure. Yeah. 99 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: But Highsmith is definitely a good one on there. I 100 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: think he's been you know, and I asked him about this, uh, 101 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, when we talked to him last week or 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: two weeks ago whenever it was now, Um, you know, 103 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: if he saw all the national reports out there saying, 104 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, Steelers needed to draft an outside linebacker in 105 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: the first round, and there was a lot and he 106 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: said yeah, I saw it. Um, you know, I I 107 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: didn't know what to think of it, and obviously they didn't. 108 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: Wait it was the sixs round pink On pick On 109 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: Quincy Rochet. I mean they feel like he's the guy. 110 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: I think it's very clear. I mean we talked about 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: this a lot. It wouldn't blow me away if they 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: brought a veteran and still but not as a starter. 113 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean as a rotational player. That's the thing people 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: need to understand when when they're talking about they need 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: to sign this guy or that guy, Is that guy 116 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: gonna want to come in as a backup? That's the 117 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: other part of it. Yeah, you have to look at 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: it that way. Okay, yeah, they could, they could go 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 1: make a pitch to sign right right, any of those guys. 120 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: But is that guy get him want to come in 121 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: at this point in his career and say, Okay, I'm 122 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: gonna be a backup to Alex Heisman. I want to play. 123 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: We can guarantee you three snaps a year. They'll be 124 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: high volat old pass rush naps and that's swell and all. 125 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure he probably is, But it is 126 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: justin Houston, even a better pass rusher than Highsmith at 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: this stage. I mean, I don't know if they need 128 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: an upgraded pass rusher, a designate, you know, a DPR, 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: a designated pass rusher. I think they need someone to 130 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: help the load with snaps, you know. Now if somebody 131 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: gets hurt, that's a different STAPs, really true, But watch 132 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: checks himself out a fair amount as stars go. I mean, 133 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna take a breather for two snaps? 134 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Well who's that guy? You know? So there aren't even 135 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: gonna be all high leverage situations. It could be second 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: and one right right, Um, So let's take a look 137 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: here across the rest of the a f C and 138 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: see who she designates. There was some good names. For 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: the Ravens, it's j K. Dobbins and there's a lot 140 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: of pressure on him this year that wasn't there last year. 141 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Is but you and I he was our favorite back 142 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: and I think he's got a chance. And she's saying underrated. 143 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think she thinks he could be a star, yeah, 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: which we thought as well. Yeah. For the Buffalo Bills, 145 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: it's Jordan Jordan Poyer. He doesn't get the credit deserves. 146 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: I think he's he's a really good football player a 147 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: night stretch of time. Now to for the Bengals, it's 148 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates. I think he's starting to get starting to 149 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: get the recognition. It's hard to be underrated in the 150 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: world now. Like when we were growing up and before 151 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Twitter and everything, there was underrated people left and right. Yeah, no, 152 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: I mean and Neis Williams was a fantastic right in 153 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: her back. He's played for the for the Cardinals his 154 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: entire career. Nobody heard of him, right, he go to 155 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls and the league respected him, and then he 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: realized he was one of the best corners of that generation. 157 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: You know, Hall of Famer. This next one for the Browns, 158 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller. He's not under rats anymore. The Cats out 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: of the bag. He's really good. Uh. In fact, I 160 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: don't know who you would mention for the Browns as 161 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: being on right now. The entire Browns team might be 162 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: over it right and say, there's some teams that are hard. 163 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, if I was a Browns fan, I would 164 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: wish it would be one of the young linebackers or 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: something you could have off like say, we're shot Higgins there. 166 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: I was thinking Higgins too. He's a good player. Yeah, 167 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: he's a good player. Uh. For the Denver Broncos, Courtland's 168 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Sutton and I think her logic is he's great. Just 169 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: don't forget it. He missed the entire season. Yea. For 170 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans, it's Jordan Atkins. It's not bad. It's 171 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: not bad. He's not bad. They drafted a tight end, 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: but it was late um, the dude out of Miami. 173 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: But I think Atkins is okay. You know, he would 174 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: help any team. For the Colts, it's the great Moley Cox. 175 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: He was on my tight end list. I mean he's 176 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: not a bad player. Uh. For the Jacksonville Jaguars, Brandon Linder. 177 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: He was really high on my center list. Actually, I'm 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: glad you recognized that as well. That's a perfect example 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of getting forgotten. He's actually the s Williams conversation. 180 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: Not that he's going to the Hall of Fame or anything, 181 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: but was a top six center for the Chiefs. It's 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: Derek Nandi, pure run suffer type, but compliments Chris Jones 183 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: really well. Totally opposite body type, old school throwback Steelers 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: type nose tackle. For the Raiders, it's Jonathan Hankins. Similar 185 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: but he's stood the test of time. He's bounced around 186 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: a few teams, signed some smaller contracts, like I'll take 187 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Jonathan Hankins for a couple of million a year for 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers. It's Ocenawassu. Yeah, and we've talked at this 189 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: and I do think it's a major area concern his 190 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: pass rusher opposite Bosa. But if we were in you know, 191 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: charge your Nation radio, we may about exactly. It's exactly 192 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: who he is. He never played more than a hundred 193 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: and sixty nine snaps in a season, and he's been 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: he's a little older. I mean he's third year, I think, 195 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: but I think he was a Yeah. I mean it's 196 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: just time for the Dolphins. Miles Gaskin anyone Fantasy relevant, 197 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: hard to be underrated. But he was good. It wasn't 198 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: just he got a lot of touches. Yeah, he was. 199 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: He did a lot with them in a not great 200 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: situation last year. I don't agree with this, but neither 201 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: For the Patriots, he has Jonathan Jones. Yeah. People rave 202 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: like when you every time you turn on a Patriots game, 203 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: that's all Jonathan Jones. Jonathan Jones. He's giving up six touchdowns, 204 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's like he was very hit and miss 205 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I agree. I was just saying, I 206 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: don't know where he's quote rated. I mean, as I 207 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: considered him a pretty good player, but I guess he's 208 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: not a household name. I'm sure there's some people out 209 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: there gun. What position does he play? He's a corner corner. Yeah. 210 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: For the Jets Jonathan Franklin Myers, Yeah, he's not bad. 211 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: Their whole D line is a little better than people think. 212 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: I think Quinnin Williams is on the verge of stardom 213 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: and people just look at him as he was. Okay, 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: Um Lawson I think has been underrated, and that whole 215 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: group isn't so bad. I think it's Quentin and the Jets. Uh. 216 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: For the Titans, the great Anthony ferks Heer. He didn't 217 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: make my top twenty five tight end list. Maybe well 218 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: next year, maybe we'll get an opportunity. He's getting an opportunity. 219 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: He's fine. Another player who could have been easily listed 220 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: among this, uh for the Steelers would have been Chase Claypool. Yeah. Uh, 221 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think you know, he was 222 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: the second round pick last year, high Smith was the third. 223 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: Um had a chance to talk to Chase Claypool yesterday. 224 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: Let's hear what Claypool had to say about what his 225 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: expectations are for Let's start with Brook Prior ESPN. Hey, 226 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: Chase Um, looking back at the offense last season, you 227 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: guys are using a lot of Matt Canada's concepts early 228 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: and then seemed to kind of go away from it 229 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: as a season progressed. How much better and more effective 230 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: can the offense be when you have an entire off 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: season to install and stick with it through an entire season. Yeah, 232 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: it's Um, It's it's pretty easy to transition into it 233 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: because you know similar concepts, concepts like we've been running 234 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: earlier on and last season, so it's not too much 235 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: of a learning curve. And I think it's as nice 236 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: because we'll be able to stick with it throughout the season. 237 00:12:49,760 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: Jim Colony all right, we'll come back to Jim Mark Camboi. You, 238 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Chase Um. Obviously you had a big impact last year 239 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: as a rookie, but when you look at your snap counts, 240 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: they weren't really up there with you know, the top 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: level guys in the league. I mean you're looking at 242 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: probably twenty less per per game. Can you get to 243 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: that point where you've taken sixty sixty five snaps or 244 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: is that hard to do with some of the guys 245 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: who are already on your team and established. Um No, 246 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I was physically. I was good to go for um, 247 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: you know, as many snaps as they need me for. 248 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: But it all depends on the scheme and what they're 249 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: trying to do in the game plan. Um. You know, 250 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: sometimes my snaps will be higher, sometimes will be less. 251 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: So as long as I'm playing a little bit, I'll 252 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: be all right making the impact like PURSUITA following that up, 253 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: Chase uh, Mike Tomlins said about two thirds of away 254 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: through last year that they kind of dialed you down 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: on purpose, just to make sure you'd be functioning at 256 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: a high level at the end of the season, you know, 257 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: sort of a hedge against the rookie wall. Not at 258 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: your second year guy. Uh, No, need for that, I 259 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: would assume, And you're willing to to go as long 260 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: and as often as as necessary. Exactly. Yeah, I didn't 261 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: really Uh, I don't really feel a rookie wall, but 262 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I think it was more Coach Cannon had a bit potentially, 263 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: if you know, he knew I was gonna come like, 264 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, like a little bit near the end of 265 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: the season, so I think he wanted knowing that we're 266 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: probably gonna be in playoffs at that point. I think 267 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: he was just trying to keep some guys up. Christopher 268 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: Carter Chase, you came onto this scene pretty strong last year, 269 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: scoring a lot of touchdowns, you know, connected for big plays, 270 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: and you know all your teammates saw what you were doing. 271 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: What you were doing going into your rookie season. What 272 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: have you worked on in the off season just on 273 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: your own that you brought to O T A. S 274 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: and that you're kind of trying to hone your game. 275 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: But what are the things you've been focusing on in 276 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: that department? Um, Off the field, I've been strengthening in 277 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: the little uh deficiencies in my body, So I've really 278 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: been working on the right side of my body since 279 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: I left side dominant, I think I'm a little more 280 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: balanced in that area. And then on the field, UM, 281 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: me and T. J. Housmans do a lot of the 282 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: same things that we did last year because you know 283 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: it works. There's no way to no reason to beer 284 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: off of that road. So just kind of doing the 285 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: things that I've worked and throwing the stuff that hasn't 286 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: the dala hey heysome. Yesterday, the Brown's head coach was 287 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: talking about how awesome it is to actually get to 288 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: work with the rookies, and obviously since you couldn't do 289 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: this work a year ago, it didn't necessarily hold you 290 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: back so much. But being here in the spring, what's 291 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the advantage to that, what's happening this time of year. 292 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: What do you see with the rookies that you just 293 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: feel gives you something extra. I think it's great in 294 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: terms of like installing plays and getting the timing down, 295 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and just like communication being around some of the younger guys. 296 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: I know, when I came in in as a rookie, 297 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I didn't know like anybody, so it was like kind 298 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: of hard to talk to people about some things like 299 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: what's going on the offense or like just sit down 300 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: to eat them just because you know you don't want 301 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: to intrude. So I think it'll be good for the 302 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: rookies wants to come time for the season. They'll be 303 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: comfortable with everyone and they'll be more chemistry. Joe Rodder, Yeah, 304 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: so Chase, So Chase, do you feel that you know 305 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a target on you this year since 306 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: you did so well aways a rookie, that the teams 307 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: will maybe be trying to find ways to emphasized stopping you. Yeah. 308 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: I think they started doing that towards the second half 309 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: of the year, you know, But I think it's good because, 310 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, guys like Deante, Do Do, James and Ray 311 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Ray can really go off, and now that we have 312 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Naigi in the in the mix, it'll be it'll be fine. 313 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: So if they put two or cloud me, then I'm 314 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: fine with that as long as the other guys are 315 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: eating Gryan back Chase. To think back to a couple 316 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: of months to go, UM, how surprised were you that 317 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: Juju h resigned here? Were you expecting that or maybe 318 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 1: anticipating having a bigger role in the offense. Just take 319 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: me through your reaction to to getting him back. I was. 320 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people, um, were expecting him 321 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: not to come back, not because he didn't want to 322 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: because the cast based situation, Um, but we all knew 323 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: he really wanted to come back. We just didn't know 324 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: if it was possible. So when he came back, I 325 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: was excited because not only is a good friend, um, 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: good player, just a good teammate to um. You know, 327 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: he does a lot for us. So always good to 328 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: have a guy like that in the building. Jim Coliny, 329 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: you have yet? Yeah, I'm here. I'm back in the 330 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: room now. M Chase. Ben was bragging the other day 331 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: on his basketball game how he had the receivers over 332 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: at his house. Were you part of that group? You 333 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: weren't there, damnit? Um, so you can't tell I was there? 334 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: We weren't You weren't part of the pig game? Or 335 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: how did that go? Not? Was is? Um? I had? Um? 336 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: I think I had worked out right before I went there, 337 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: So my upper body is a little source. So I've 338 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: missed a couple of shots characteristic uh stiller A Rich Walls. 339 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Sticking with Ben, Um, I wanted to ask you, are 340 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: you glad he decided to come back? And also how 341 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: is your relationship with him developed over the last couple 342 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: of years. I'm definitely happy he came back. There's very 343 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: few quarterbacks in the league that could come in and 344 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: you know bring um you know that savvy nous matt 345 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: football knowledge. Probably he might be one of two, um 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: you know who could bring that knowledge and make the 347 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: transition into the league easier and then you know, make 348 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: everyone else's job easier. And what was the second part 349 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: of that question I wanted. I was asking you about 350 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: how your relationship developed from last year to this year 351 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I think it's a lot more friendly. 352 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: Less talk talk about football, more talk about just like 353 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: random things going on, more jokes being said back and forth, 354 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot more fun. I've got time for a few more, 355 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: Ale Sanders and Jayson. I mean, last year you didn't 356 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: have these o t s. You're also dealing with kind 357 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: of the pandemic and being here with your family not 358 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: really able to visit, And just how much more comfortable 359 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: and and uh secure, I guess in your life. Are 360 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: you right now that maybe where a year ago? And 361 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: how does that impact the way you think you can 362 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: play in the football field. Um? Yeah, I mean I'm 363 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: definitely in the routine of being, um, you know, NFL 364 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: football player. Last year, in the draft process, I was 365 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: still kind of house with my agency, um and you know, 366 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: still kind of went through them. But this year was 367 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: I was like completely independent on my off season plans, 368 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: training in the places. Um, it was tough not being 369 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: able to see my family. I went after the after 370 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: the game, but um, you know, I would like to 371 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: come go back and forth and visit them a little bit. 372 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: I just gotta wait till the quarantine stuff chills out. 373 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: But they're excited to come to that watch a game. 374 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: Grace for the follow up, Hey, Chase, there's been a 375 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: lot of discussion, um about the lack of the deep 376 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: passing game last year. There anything that you guys can 377 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: do as a receiver's group to help end out or 378 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: as an offense. Um, you have to help that improve 379 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I think you know me especially, but 380 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: we all we all can, UM. You know, obviously we 381 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: have to like complete those contested catches. I know I 382 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: had a couple that I could have came down with 383 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: and then um, just being we were on the same 384 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: page time and so continuing to work off that and 385 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: getting more separation downfield obviously the more the better. UM. 386 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: Staying healthier down the stretch will always help. Then the 387 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: last one, uh time Marketaboli, they Chase. All we've heard 388 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: throughout this offseason so far has been the emphasis on 389 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: the run game and the physicality that they want to 390 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: bring back. Has that trickled down to your position? Group 391 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: at all where you're seeing a different message than maybe 392 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: years past or at least last year for you. Definitely, 393 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be um. You know, We're not 394 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: just gonna be blocking corners and stuff. We're gonna be 395 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: coming down the box and trying to help out in 396 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: some run run schemes and run fits. So I think 397 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: it works out of that. I know, maybe ready excited 398 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: a block linebacker, you know worthy That was Chase Claypool, 399 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: who I think you could certainly put on that list 400 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: of Steelers who underrated, you know, second year, like Highsmith, 401 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: like we opened that. It's funny because on my way here, 402 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: as I do every Friday, had a conversation with Stan 403 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: Savereign and we ended the conversation. He said, Matt, and 404 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: I saw your wide receiver ranks and you only have 405 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: Deonte in there, and he's at the very bottom of 406 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: your top twenty five twenty something like that. He's how 407 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: close are it's Claypool? Really? I mean we mentioned Juju, 408 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: but how close is Claypool to be in those ranks? 409 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: And I thought, man, he was on my original list. 410 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, I just write any name that could possibly 411 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: make it, you know, I scribbled him down, but he 412 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: got scratched off it. So he's a near miss already. 413 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: I fully expect him to be in the top twenty 414 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: five next year. And that's not like my top twenty 415 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: five running backs or guards or tight ends that's really 416 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: did list to be on. You know, think about the 417 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: leap that one of the guys that he's compared with 418 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: the most DK Metcalf made from year one to year two, 419 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: right right, Um, you know you kind of learned the 420 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: route tree a little bit more what's expected if you 421 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: think about his routes. I think you sent this to 422 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: me a couple of weeks ago. His his route tree. 423 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: A lot of it was, you know, just straight go 424 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: routes right side, um, and they didn't hit on a 425 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of those. They didn't. I mean for people that 426 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: don't know, I think this is a telling stat. I mean, 427 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: he was at the top of the league in pass 428 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: interference yards created, which doesn't help your fantasy team, and 429 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: is in the box score and is on the back 430 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 1: of his football. But just as the baffles catching ball 431 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: and falling out of bounds, um, so that threat remained. 432 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: I also thinking I'm not giving Ben a hard time, 433 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: but I bet Ben's not his arm strength, but his 434 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: control of the deep ball, you know, putting it exactly 435 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: where he wants with the amount of arc. I bet 436 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: that was more affected by his surgery than the arms 437 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: strength or ability to get it in the neighborhood, you know, 438 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: as opposed. So I think that will get better just 439 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: with more control of the football. Um. But I think 440 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: his his row trees set to develop. And I'm glad 441 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: he mentioned blocking in the run game. I thought that 442 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: I had high hopes for him as a rookie, and 443 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: I thought he felt a little short on that, as 444 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: did all the receivers. But it was a tough situation. 445 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: They're often blocking linebackers and things like that. But boy, 446 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you get a guy like him and Metcalf'll 447 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: do this with two just quick slants where he shields 448 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: a defender, maybe doesn't come out of his brakes as 449 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: well as a b or Michael Thomas or these slant 450 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: masters have to. You don't have to. He's bigger. It's 451 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: getting a rebound and then that guy's gonna get him 452 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: on the ground, you know. I mean, if he just 453 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: pops on his back, he dragged him five more yards 454 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: or you know, he trying to tries to get a 455 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: hand on him, and he's moving so fast. Because both 456 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: of those guys can run. It's a little different than tackling. 457 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: You know, a guy who's that big runs of four 458 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: six or a welker out of the slat, one of 459 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: those type of guys you get on the ground right, 460 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: just get him the football with a little bit of 461 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: momentum and see what happens. So I expect big things 462 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: from him. Um, I think he could put James Washington 463 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: on that list as a guy who's vastly underrated. I 464 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: think he would be in the mix a lot more 465 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: for a lot of other teams. We brought this up 466 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: with Washington, and I think we did the same thing 467 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: with Finney like two years ago. I would offer Washington 468 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: contract right now, you know, like a two year deal, 469 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: a three year deal, give him a nice bump with 470 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: the thought of, yeah, he's the four this year, isn't 471 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: gonna put up massive numbers. But Mike, if there's an 472 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: injury two years ago, he led them in receiving. Let's 473 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: say he's already proven and if Juju is not back 474 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: and you can get him at a discount, he may 475 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: play a lot of snaps in two thousand, twenty two 476 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: and you know in twenty three, those type of things, 477 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and you may get him a good price. Yeah, for sure. 478 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: On the defensive side of things, it's tough to say 479 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: any of those guys are kind of underrated. They don't 480 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: have the the Mike Wagner, the glue guy that was 481 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: just loaded by I think the guy who's underrated by 482 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Steeler fans is Terrell Edmonds. I think that's a good call. Yeah, 483 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: because he's a quality player and people say, oh, he's 484 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: a first round bust, he's a second round or you 485 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: don't love him. Yeah, essentially he was. He was the 486 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: super late of the of the first round. Come on. Yeah, 487 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: And just the fact that his option didn't get picked 488 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: up is not an indicator that he's a failure, won't 489 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: be back. It's his safeties are kind of expensive for 490 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: that that pick up right now, and you really want 491 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: to do with the two safeties, you know, that's there's 492 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: a unique team with the two guys the same position. 493 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: The Bills are doing it, but they're saving money. They 494 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: weren't paying a quarterback right now, not paying a quarter 495 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: back right now, right you know, do you want to 496 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 1: put the fifth year tag on two players in the 497 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: same position, that's a little hairy. You don't like guys 498 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: coming up at the same time in the same year 499 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: the same year, right right, right exactly. And then I 500 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: think my final guy who's who's maybe a little underrated, 501 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: particularly in terms of the league, is Chris Boswell. Yeah, 502 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: that's a good one. He had one bad years. He's 503 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: a top five kicker, yeah, without question, and I still 504 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: think that one bad year. It's not a coincident. At 505 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: the end of the year he went on I R 506 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: or the injured list with a growing or something like that. 507 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: It wasn't like a bad finger. He's a kicker, is 508 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: a you know, a big deal kind of a big deal, 509 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: and he his levers. He's been an amazing fine for 510 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: this team. And it's worth every penny. Really, that's a 511 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: great when you when you look at his career field 512 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: goal percentage. UM. You know, Adam Vintieri, my favorite guy, 513 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: retired last week. He also kicked to the Dome for 514 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: the last fifteen years. UM had I think a career 515 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: make mark of like eight eight and a half percent 516 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: or something like that. Boss was above that, Yeah, and 517 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: much harsher conditions, hard hard stadium, hard home stadium to 518 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: kick into. He's been good in the playoffs, He's been 519 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: good in all phases. I didn't realize that. I knew 520 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: as the percentage was really good. Um, some guys you 521 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: want to get on that list are the offensive lineman 522 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: we mentioned. You know that hopefully the Banners and Chooks 523 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: of the world will take a small step forward and 524 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: are just quality starters. I mean I don't need them 525 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: to be, you know, Ogden and BISSELLI Um, I went 526 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: Rudolph to get on that list. I think he definitely, 527 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: he may be already be on that list. I mean 528 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: he uh, we'll do this at some point. But my 529 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: latest pet project is I combined accuracy numbers, completion percentage 530 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: times depth of target, and he has a very small 531 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: sample size, but he was at the top of the league. 532 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: That might shock people. He threw the ball down the 533 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: ball down the field in the game against the Browns 534 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: last year. I mean that already many passes is a qualifiers. 535 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: But his average depth of target was ten yards last year, 536 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: which that was where you wanted to attack the Browns 537 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: last year, right, right. But I think there's a misconception 538 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: that he's a Bridgewater checkdown game manager. He wasn't in college, right. 539 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: He throws the ball down the field and he's very 540 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: equipped to do so. Yeah, so that's a good one 541 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: for you as well. But that is going to do 542 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: it for this segment. So for my partner Matt Williamson, 543 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: for Jacob here on site keeping us on the air, 544 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lully. 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