Speaker 1: Yet get no boys, It's back and reloaded all in
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah, now deep throating. This is for the streets,
Speaker 1: the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth, the scapegoating.
Speaker 1: And they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they
Speaker 1: ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North South East
Speaker 1: coat g b my keeping your head bobbing, it ain't
Speaker 1: no stopping and wants to be try head by then
Speaker 1: the system is so corrupt they throw the rock out
Speaker 1: of the head and then blame it on us. Don't
Speaker 1: get it twisted on code and we danceing for no
Speaker 1: buttoment biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scar faces in the building.
Speaker 1: Collectively we are the get old boys, reloaded, reloaded with
Speaker 1: another episode of information and instructions to help you navigate
Speaker 1: through this wild, crazy, beautiful world. In the studio Teslin forgo,
Speaker 1: what's up? Glad to be here with that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get it out of the way. You are perhaps the
Speaker 1: greatest political commentator of our time, of our time, of
Speaker 1: our times, and I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why I feel that way. Uh, you
Speaker 1: are nonpartisan and that in your own words, you don't
Speaker 1: give a damn about Democrats are the Republicans and you
Speaker 1: call it like you see it. When the Republicans get
Speaker 1: it right, you acknowledge it, you praised them. When the
Speaker 1: Democrats get it right, you acknowledge them. You praise them.
Speaker 1: When they get it wrong, you go in on them,
Speaker 1: and you go in on the Republicans when they get
Speaker 1: it wrong. That's what makes me think, That's what makes me.
Speaker 1: And it's not just going in. It's the way you
Speaker 1: articulate your message. You're very knowledgeable and you know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about and can't nobody. I I have not
Speaker 1: seen anybody funk with you at all, and fat I
Speaker 1: see a lot of your contemporaries when they're chairing the
Speaker 1: panel with you, And where did that come from? That's amazing? Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. Um, that's an honor, first of all, glad
Speaker 1: to be here, feel like I'm at church giving all
Speaker 1: to God, to the pastor to face hob Willie did
Speaker 1: get a voice, UM, But no, it's an honor, UM.
Speaker 1: And I don't take that lightly. I'm I'm humbled by
Speaker 1: that because when you ask what it what it comes from,
Speaker 1: it really comes from just being an m C on
Speaker 1: the mic. You know, I would have never thought, do
Speaker 1: I need to free style? Let me hear the free style.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to be busted out. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be busted. Yeah it's did you rap
Speaker 1: for real? Yeah? Yeah? Really? What was your name? Well,
Speaker 1: technically in the fifth grade it was luscious, imprescious. They
Speaker 1: didn't really count. And then I was called sugar Tea
Speaker 1: after my Then I thought it. I was a little kid,
Speaker 1: look at face, a little camp. But you know, we
Speaker 1: grew up in that error was about the microphone, you know,
Speaker 1: when you when you when you here. I never thought
Speaker 1: that hip hop would take me this far. I never
Speaker 1: thought that politics will take me this far. Like to
Speaker 1: literally be sitting down with you. See why I fight
Speaker 1: so hard to get into the political Absolutely, it's a
Speaker 1: natural transition. When you talk about politics and you talk
Speaker 1: about what we fight for, what we stand for, what
Speaker 1: we believe in. It really comes from the same thing
Speaker 1: that we rap about, the same thing that we talk about.
Speaker 1: I heard the craziest thing to day, and it came
Speaker 1: from it came from somebody higher up. I can't say
Speaker 1: no names because I can't like he told me, don't
Speaker 1: say nothing about it. But a very higher up told
Speaker 1: me that. Another higher up it was like, we don't
Speaker 1: even Republican, Like, we don't even you know, uh, solicit
Speaker 1: y'all vote. We don't even want y'all vote. And if
Speaker 1: we you know, we we don't, we don't. You can
Speaker 1: move to our neighborhoods, but we don't want you there.
Speaker 1: And I was like, god damn. Really, like they eat
Speaker 1: regardless if we was Republican or whatever, they don't want
Speaker 1: us around. They don't want us with them. They will
Speaker 1: not put us down, like they won't put us in.
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, god damn. And I was under the
Speaker 1: impression that if you was a black Republican, you will
Speaker 1: welcome in the Republican Party. But that's not true. You black,
Speaker 1: they don't want you in their period. They don't even
Speaker 1: want your vote. They don't even come to your neighborhood
Speaker 1: and ask you for your vote. Have you ever noticed this?
Speaker 1: All the white Democrats that come in, they the black churches,
Speaker 1: they know they got us, they know they got us
Speaker 1: pen But the Republicans know, Yeah, I have a I
Speaker 1: have a more than a few conservative friends. They really
Speaker 1: push I call grass roots, and then concrete roots. You know,
Speaker 1: there's grassroots for the grass tops, the end up, l CP,
Speaker 1: the Urban League, and then I created my own concept
Speaker 1: concrete Roots that comes from Pox, you know, the Rosy group,
Speaker 1: Concrete the street street, the street level, which is deeper
Speaker 1: than the grass you know, really getting down to the
Speaker 1: authenticity of what hip hop stands for. When you really
Speaker 1: look at what hip hop stands for. And I remember
Speaker 1: years ago when everybody thought it was a game, and
Speaker 1: they made fun of me in Florida because I said,
Speaker 1: nobody ever put hip hop in this. We got enough
Speaker 1: wrap labels, and now we need districts with constituents. The
Speaker 1: idea of really bringing hip hop the story that it
Speaker 1: tells into the fold and then taking that and making
Speaker 1: a constituent so that people can vote for people like you,
Speaker 1: and people like you then really understand where it is
Speaker 1: we come from and how do you change that? Because
Speaker 1: everything in hip hop is talking about our current conditions,
Speaker 1: what conditions we want. Talks about the Second Amendment to
Speaker 1: write to carry, talks about getting paper, capitalism, talks about
Speaker 1: all of the things which ling moderated. Right Actually, when
Speaker 1: you really think about hip hop but still having a
Speaker 1: conscious of loving our own people and having social issues
Speaker 1: that matter. Hip hop is a direct correlation to what
Speaker 1: politics should be. So not only do Republicans fear that,
Speaker 1: but Democrats feel that as well. I remember when you
Speaker 1: were running and you and I met and yeah, and
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta let face be face, like he
Speaker 1: gotta they have to know. It's like what it's brad,
Speaker 1: he gotta be there. No, no, no no, no, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: it gotta be faced. Because everything that you talk about,
Speaker 1: everything that you exemplify when you say, damn it feel
Speaker 1: good to be a gangster, that's what Putin is doing
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, like on some gangster ship. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: if we include that, then there's more voices for people
Speaker 1: like us. They say, you know, I got a place
Speaker 1: in this. It's not as complicated as people think. And
Speaker 1: so when you answer your question where you got there from?
Speaker 1: I got it from this microphone. My it wasn't I
Speaker 1: set out to be a rapper. I won the little
Speaker 1: Remember when Sprite had the contest when they were doing
Speaker 1: a spright eye contest. I want that. Hey, okay, I
Speaker 1: get my little credit. I want that. I want to
Speaker 1: R and B contest with public announcement. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: in me to keep pushing the music. I was kind
Speaker 1: of hard. I mean that's what makes me so good
Speaker 1: and and momentary, you know it really is. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the freestyle. It's the gift to the freestyle. People say, well,
Speaker 1: how do you know what? I certainly can't predict what
Speaker 1: my opponent will say. I don't give my topics until
Speaker 1: I'm literally an hour before I'm on the air. So
Speaker 1: it's the ability to freestyle. It's the ability of rocking
Speaker 1: this mike. It's the same thing. Um so when it
Speaker 1: comes from when when you say how did you get
Speaker 1: that way? It's being authentistic of who I really am
Speaker 1: and what I believe in and everything that I that
Speaker 1: I grew up and really communicating that. It's MC. It's
Speaker 1: the microphone commander. I just bring it to the political
Speaker 1: space and you can't fake that ship face. Like it's
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the commentary space. So while
Speaker 1: I'm hip hop, I'm hip hop. They can love the music,
Speaker 1: but did you really live it? Like when when when
Speaker 1: the super Bowl happened? And like Mega's from the street
Speaker 1: really understand like what it means to see Dre on
Speaker 1: the stage and Snoop on the stage, Mary J. Blige
Speaker 1: on the stage view and like like to really live that,
Speaker 1: to know to me and to get some stitches in
Speaker 1: your face behind that, Yeah, that I'm sure, but it
Speaker 1: was a celebration for those that lived that life. I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of people, you know, putting on their
Speaker 1: dickies and doing whatever and in the cliche of it all,
Speaker 1: which is cool, but there's a different it's a different
Speaker 1: level to that to really say, okay, we can make it,
Speaker 1: we can go that far. The issue with the NBA,
Speaker 1: with the NFL separate and apart, but to really see
Speaker 1: the streets, to see somebody who's been shot five times
Speaker 1: on the stage and make it to be able to
Speaker 1: tell the story, and then to see East and West together,
Speaker 1: you know, when not that would have never happened. So
Speaker 1: that's what I try to bring. The politics. Just who
Speaker 1: I am. The bag is really to be honest. If
Speaker 1: I wanted to get the bag is quite simple to do.
Speaker 1: All I gotta do is go be a conservative and
Speaker 1: mon Fox News. I gotta do is talk about black
Speaker 1: on black crime and Chicago when I get the bag.
Speaker 1: It's been offered to me several times. If I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a Democrat shield and just fight for the Democrats.
Speaker 1: That bag is there too. But I've always just been
Speaker 1: true to who I am and my character, um and
Speaker 1: really speak truth to power. And I want I want
Speaker 1: the hood involved in a way where where they haven't
Speaker 1: seen themselves, um to know that there's opportunity there for
Speaker 1: you to. The politics is set up just like bloods
Speaker 1: and crips and the O G and the B G
Speaker 1: and the Y G and how you run the trap.
Speaker 1: The trap is the precinct, the work, the dope, the
Speaker 1: whole thing, like it's literally laid out exactly how you
Speaker 1: run a set. And so my my biggest thing is
Speaker 1: even when I talk to my homies in Inglewood, when
Speaker 1: you have the Sofi Stadium in Inglewood, if y'all neggas
Speaker 1: can organize Inglewood family like the Electoral College and get
Speaker 1: it all over this country, what's the difference between you
Speaker 1: doing that and getting contracts at the Sofi Stadium and
Speaker 1: getting paper. So I'm I'm really about trying to, you know,
Speaker 1: be that voice and it's not again because it's really
Speaker 1: who I am. But I still mix in you know,
Speaker 1: I got a couple of degrees and got a little
Speaker 1: bit of sin. Don't try to mix that in. Why
Speaker 1: hasn't the anti lynching bill been passed? Why? Because I know,
Speaker 1: you know, like when the Asian hate bill came out,
Speaker 1: that was immediate. Why why why why is it? Why
Speaker 1: why are they waiting so long to address the issues
Speaker 1: with Black America. Well, it moved so quickly on the
Speaker 1: other America. It's the lack of pressure. Um my my motto,
Speaker 1: my my my h mantra is pushed the line politics
Speaker 1: until something happens. This is another reason why I want
Speaker 1: the streets so involved. We need more people that have
Speaker 1: nothing to lose that can push the line in a
Speaker 1: way that we've never seen before. Do we mean more
Speaker 1: people that don't got nothing to lose an office though, Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's what we need more to Absolutely we need somebody
Speaker 1: to push that button. Absolutely, we need It's not even
Speaker 1: just the candidate, even the operative. I was a candidate
Speaker 1: for like three months and I said, Okay, that's not
Speaker 1: for me. We need operatives, we need trainers, we need people.
Speaker 1: My favorite candidate commission and Regina Hill in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker 1: She was arrested twenty one times. Didn't give a damn
Speaker 1: one first one straight out the gate. What did she
Speaker 1: do for her city? What did she do? Now? I
Speaker 1: mean what did she do? I mean did she She
Speaker 1: was involved in the community, but she didn't come from
Speaker 1: the political space. Was first time Candida. She ran against
Speaker 1: a sixteen year incumbent. Nobody believed it was literally hearing
Speaker 1: about two or three of us. We ran on a
Speaker 1: couple of thousand dollars, ran against an attorney sixteen or incumbent.
Speaker 1: But she was true to the game, She was true
Speaker 1: to who she was. Jeez, what made me understand that
Speaker 1: Trump was coming? She won in two thousand fourteen. It
Speaker 1: was her that made me say, Okay, something on the ground.
Speaker 1: There's a ground swell happening, a populist movement that's saying, Okay,
Speaker 1: we don't see what y'all did. Let's let some other
Speaker 1: folks in here that that that that truly have a
Speaker 1: nothing to lose attitude, that's willing to push a line
Speaker 1: in the area um that others have not. That's why
Speaker 1: Trump won. Trump had no intention of women. Black people
Speaker 1: have been pushing the line for a long time, and
Speaker 1: there are a lot of disgruntled voters out there that
Speaker 1: are black and they're like, hey, man, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: voting for these negroes who and they get in and
Speaker 1: they don't do anything. They just they act just like
Speaker 1: everybody else. They promised to make these promises and then
Speaker 1: they break them. They break them, they break them. There
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of people, even right here in Houston
Speaker 1: that you can talk to and yours talk to your
Speaker 1: tell that would tell you that my quality of life
Speaker 1: is better because I have this person as a city councilman,
Speaker 1: a woman, this person as a council uh congressman, accomplished woman.
Speaker 1: You know, so hold on, hold on, hold on, I
Speaker 1: gotta make this point. How do you get people who
Speaker 1: have given up on the voting process to get back in?
Speaker 1: How do you get them like involved again? They need
Speaker 1: to run. You know, I talk about I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a political tribute on Black News Channel and I say
Speaker 1: all the time, We're not gonna chase them, we replace them.
Speaker 1: Trying to get people to believe in something that they
Speaker 1: don't identify with it just makes no sense. We need
Speaker 1: to have people run on. Give damn what it's for.
Speaker 1: A precinct chair, commissioner, uh party chair, whatever, the the
Speaker 1: dog catcher. People that can literally identify. I tell em
Speaker 1: Cate all the time home, Why don't you go around
Speaker 1: for Compton man syl You know, whyn't you go around
Speaker 1: for Component? It ain't got nothing lose. Let's just see you.
Speaker 1: You you deal with thousands of thousands of kids every month.
Speaker 1: How can we turn those children's parents and the voters
Speaker 1: when you really look at the numbers and you look
Speaker 1: at how many people actually go to the polls, which
Speaker 1: is just a couple of thousand people. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can flip an election between five people thousand people. That's
Speaker 1: your high school class, that's your just the homies in
Speaker 1: the hood. So they have to first identify with somebody
Speaker 1: that speaks their language. You're trying to go to a
Speaker 1: foreign country and speak a language that they don't understand.
Speaker 1: They don't see themselves in that position. Once you started,
Speaker 1: and you I explained, I wasn't joking when on some
Speaker 1: of the electoral college. I explained to the blood and
Speaker 1: out in the Houston's different because I know y'all dealing
Speaker 1: awards and different things like that. I come from Mire West,
Speaker 1: which ran offense for the West Coast, so it was
Speaker 1: very much you know, gang related. I grew up in
Speaker 1: a part. You know, I grew up in a blood territory,
Speaker 1: and when I break down to people like the electoral
Speaker 1: college is literally like Inglewood family. When I'm explaining to
Speaker 1: the home, it's like, okay, you know how the big
Speaker 1: home that generation may not have a lot of people,
Speaker 1: but they have more power than the young homies that
Speaker 1: may have thousands and thousand. That's the electoral college, and
Speaker 1: the homies be like, Okay, I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: When you explain it in a certain way, you explain that, Okay,
Speaker 1: the governors the o G, that the state rep is
Speaker 1: you know, the y G, that the state senator is
Speaker 1: the y G, that the uh the what the state
Speaker 1: senators the y G, the state rep is the b G.
Speaker 1: When you explain that to people on the way, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. They understand organizing power, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that the only you know, the only angle to
Speaker 1: it because I talk all demographics across the board and
Speaker 1: I remember the homies and be like, why do you
Speaker 1: talk to me that way, like that's the only thing
Speaker 1: I can understand, and said, no, it's not that, it's
Speaker 1: the only thing that you can understand. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: explain that you displaining you that you've been doing this
Speaker 1: game ship all along, You've been organizing all along. If
Speaker 1: you can organize award third ward or get one group
Speaker 1: of people on board to do something for the negative,
Speaker 1: why not can we switch that and get the positive?
Speaker 1: And it makes sense. You would lect your sheriff, you
Speaker 1: would let your city council, you wouldlect the people that
Speaker 1: decide should a basketball court go there? Should and after
Speaker 1: school program go there? Should? The police not be as
Speaker 1: hot on your block because you actually elect the sheriff.
Speaker 1: So when you explain that and have conversations and you
Speaker 1: don't have operators in the game to say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: don't don't say that, Willy, no, no, no, don't say that,
Speaker 1: scar Phace, do this, do that, Then now we start
Speaker 1: to make change. And that's what they fear. You're going
Speaker 1: do a training all over the country with the hbc
Speaker 1: U S to the hood. They fear those two demographics
Speaker 1: coming together and saying, how can we, you know, learn
Speaker 1: from each other, how can we move I was a
Speaker 1: veteran in the Air Force. You can't have a war
Speaker 1: without the army, the Air Force, the Navy, the Marines,
Speaker 1: everybody has a role to play. And if we start
Speaker 1: understanding that role and say no, let's let face go
Speaker 1: up and say this to that. But then it got
Speaker 1: to be a testlent in the background. It's gonna know
Speaker 1: how to move that weight too. It's all about moving weight, politics, power, money,
Speaker 1: the whole nine. And that's why you see sex and politics.
Speaker 1: You see powdering politics, you see the doping politics, you
Speaker 1: see the power and politics. Everything from pussy politics, pimp
Speaker 1: and pastor, all of it is in politics. And they
Speaker 1: don't want us to get it and the homies to
Speaker 1: get it because the same homies that was willing to
Speaker 1: die for that flag, imagine if they take that same
Speaker 1: militia mentality and say I'm willing to die for mind,
Speaker 1: It's a whole new level of the game that they
Speaker 1: honestly just don't want us to have. Whether it be
Speaker 1: Republicans are Democrats. I think that our our our voters
Speaker 1: are should be disappointed in themselves because they think are
Speaker 1: they figured at the vote? When after you vote and
Speaker 1: you and your your man get in that the fight stop. No,
Speaker 1: that's when the fight starts. Because if you vote Willie
Speaker 1: in and you know how Willie speak to the fire
Speaker 1: then will you can get in there and do what
Speaker 1: you want to do. It doesn't stop at the vote.
Speaker 1: And that should be another man. You should have used
Speaker 1: somebody named black Kanye for some ship like that. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm for the people already, so that's automatic.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do automatically what the people
Speaker 1: need to need done. You did, yes, sir, relaxed. But
Speaker 1: look at how we I use analogy a lot so
Speaker 1: people can get it when you say that's when the
Speaker 1: fight starts. Think about how we manage our personal relationships
Speaker 1: being black women. I can speak being a black woman.
Speaker 1: We talk about the black woman being the backbone quote
Speaker 1: unquote of the Democrat Party. How hard do black women
Speaker 1: go for men that don't give them back what they should?
Speaker 1: So it's the same. And tell our men when you're
Speaker 1: the booty call some black women, some black women, but
Speaker 1: overall black women just in general. And this is not
Speaker 1: a gender you know, war thing, but overall, when you
Speaker 1: look at the numbers, when you look at what we
Speaker 1: get out of the relationship, that same mentality transfers over
Speaker 1: the voting. So I'll give you to be a clear
Speaker 1: example when black women constantly saving American They brag about it. Oh, look,
Speaker 1: the black women saved America and this and and I'll
Speaker 1: tell him, he says, stop saying that ship. Ain't nothing
Speaker 1: cool about being the mistress. You say, the genie, and
Speaker 1: what the fun did you get out of it? So
Speaker 1: it ain't no different than when they they can come
Speaker 1: by at two am in the morning and he gets
Speaker 1: some masks and you roll on and you talk that
Speaker 1: ship all girl. Next time when he comes by, he knows,
Speaker 1: he already know what it is. Politics understands action, just
Speaker 1: like a man and a woman, a female and male
Speaker 1: relationship action. So until we start understanding that when you
Speaker 1: say when you get into the relationship, that's when the
Speaker 1: fight begins. Think about in our relatelationships that we get
Speaker 1: into even when we with each other, we let our
Speaker 1: guards down. Okay, out there now, so I don't have
Speaker 1: to keep myself up. I don't have to remember on
Speaker 1: cater to you when she said, I still look good.
Speaker 1: I still when you tap me on my shoulder, I
Speaker 1: still turn over. I still look good. I'm still putting
Speaker 1: in the work. The reason why, Beyonce, the reason why
Speaker 1: this and shall and that was Kelly's verse that did
Speaker 1: that was able to highlight that because even in relationships,
Speaker 1: you stop doing the work. And so people have to
Speaker 1: understand that voting is a relationship. If I if you
Speaker 1: and I get together and I say, well, now you're
Speaker 1: my man, now to get on you harder the most,
Speaker 1: the natural reaction is what the funk you got me? Now?
Speaker 1: Why are you tripping? So people's voting has to It's
Speaker 1: the same thing. So I'm not surprised when I see
Speaker 1: how That's why I always do my thing. When I
Speaker 1: talk about politics, politicians, politicians, pimps, and pastors, it's the
Speaker 1: same talk game. And so we have to understand that
Speaker 1: relationship start. You have to keep me. So when I
Speaker 1: ask a group of folks, black men, black women, why
Speaker 1: are you not make these democrats work harder for you?
Speaker 1: And then I look at how the man treat them,
Speaker 1: how the woman treat them. You don't require nothing from
Speaker 1: your woman. You don't have no boundaries. She can say
Speaker 1: do whatever is long she give you something. We shouldn't
Speaker 1: be confused on why this ship translates into Power's the
Speaker 1: same thing puts in politics, baby, the same thing. By
Speaker 1: the way, you know what I'm trying to get the
Speaker 1: six conversation, We get that. When Trump was in office,
Speaker 1: one thing that I paid attention to is every time
Speaker 1: he got off code, they smacked his as immediately and
Speaker 1: he would retract, like almost within just twenty four hour
Speaker 1: period hours he was back on the apology trail like
Speaker 1: and and that was that was that was old, that
Speaker 1: was that were bad people on both sides. First he
Speaker 1: said that was horrible. And you know, somebody gotten this
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, don't forget where you come from,
Speaker 1: don't forget who put you in there, because we will
Speaker 1: take you out just like we put you in. And
Speaker 1: they publicly said, you know what the difference is the
Speaker 1: Republican parties in the nineteen nineties, the Bloods literally read
Speaker 1: Republicans discipline. How is it that Inglewood in the nineties
Speaker 1: were able to maintain surrounded by nothing but crips, nothing
Speaker 1: but crips happened to be blue. Remember in the nineties,
Speaker 1: crips kill crips. In the nineties, bloods didn't kill bloods.
Speaker 1: That's why they do now. But in the nineties they
Speaker 1: had a unity that was so strong. It was against cold.
Speaker 1: It was pushing the line no matter what right wrong,
Speaker 1: and indifferent. That's why Republicans are the minority in this country.
Speaker 1: But the way they pushed the line, they dpee, they
Speaker 1: dpe their own folks. They discipline their own folks, where
Speaker 1: Democrats say, oh no, we don't want to say nothing,
Speaker 1: we don't want to whatever. If we look at just
Speaker 1: right now, trending to topics right now, when you look
Speaker 1: at s mac cript, discipline, get your ass beat in
Speaker 1: front of everybody. That's how it goes down. Nigga. You
Speaker 1: don't get to say anything or be anything, don't matter
Speaker 1: how long ago was. You get disciplined. That's how Trump moved.
Speaker 1: That's why when I said he was a gangster, everybody
Speaker 1: hold you praising Trump because you know these kids now,
Speaker 1: I think gangster is a When I say gangster, I
Speaker 1: mean you really a gangster? They think ganster means like exactly.
Speaker 1: They think it's like me praising him one praising I'm
Speaker 1: calling for what it is. I'm appraising, Yeah, gangster. He did.
Speaker 1: He did whatever you wanted to do, did whatever the
Speaker 1: fun you wanted to do, whatever the want to do it.
Speaker 1: Trump was a hope. You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: I said, and I meant it. I'm here to represent
Speaker 1: it and gainst what. I never apologize. You see, that's
Speaker 1: one thing you ain't gonna get out of me. I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not. I'm not Finna Strato. The fis either.
Speaker 1: Trump was a hope and he still lives a hole hote.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you know, I have a special disdain
Speaker 1: disdain for for Trump because because and this is not
Speaker 1: this is not me saying, you know, uh oh, I
Speaker 1: love Barack Obama anything, but Barack Obama still does represent blackness.
Speaker 1: So when you see Barack Obama, you see a black man.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump had never publicly attacked a president until we
Speaker 1: got the first black president in office, and he said, Yo,
Speaker 1: let me see your birth certificate. He ain't never asked
Speaker 1: somebody else, He never asked another president any of those
Speaker 1: type of questions. He's never drilled anybody and stayed on
Speaker 1: and stayed on. The President's asked for an entire eight
Speaker 1: years and still and then another four years while he
Speaker 1: was in office. So that was personal to me because
Speaker 1: in his mind, he's like, yeah, we can let you
Speaker 1: be mayor, you can be a chief of police, you
Speaker 1: can be a governor, you can be anything you want to.
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna be the commander in chief. And
Speaker 1: that was my problem. That's my problem with that dude.
Speaker 1: So you are just you just because he's racist, right,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, pretty much. But you should fucking fuck all
Speaker 1: of them then, because at some point no no no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know how exact, because they were all racist towards
Speaker 1: black people exactly at some at the some extent you
Speaker 1: say Obama included, you ain't you're telling to know about
Speaker 1: the art, Okay, so you gotta hate all the motherfucker's
Speaker 1: Lincoln Washington? Uh who else they praised so highly? Uh?
Speaker 1: Fuck Andrew Jackson? I mean, what's his name? Yeah, Jackson?
Speaker 1: Sucking him? All of them code that and the ones
Speaker 1: coming after Lea. I guess when we look at me
Speaker 1: and racist is not the end off for me. But
Speaker 1: go ahead, Yeah, I guess when I talk about what
Speaker 1: a gainst it, it's not a matter of praise. It's
Speaker 1: a matter of let's just I mean, let's examine the lyrics.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is y'all ship, this ain't my like
Speaker 1: when we say demn it feel going to be against
Speaker 1: getting voted in the White House. Everything looking good to
Speaker 1: the people to wear but the Mafia family is my boss.
Speaker 1: So every now and then I owe a favor getting down.
Speaker 1: That's your lyrics. So when we talk about a gangster,
Speaker 1: it ain't about oh yeah I like Trump. It's about
Speaker 1: that nigga move like the mafia. I'm simply saying I'm
Speaker 1: calling a thing a thing, that's a camera, that's face,
Speaker 1: that's Willie, this is me. It's not about crazing. It
Speaker 1: is saying that he moves like a goddamn gangster. And
Speaker 1: so when a gangster say, I don't give a fuck,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. You like it, you like it?
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't. I call that Mitch. I called
Speaker 1: out my people. I call that my mama, my grandma,
Speaker 1: the turtle. Yeah, it's simply calling that. The Democrat Party
Speaker 1: moves like you. Yeah, they move like transformers, they move
Speaker 1: like mars. They are afraids, they're scared it. I'm just
Speaker 1: simply calling what is. But you know, kids, I don't
Speaker 1: really think the Democrats I'm talking about, at least the
Speaker 1: ones that especially in the South, I really don't think
Speaker 1: they're afraid to do anythink they don't what they don't.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that I don't think they're afraid.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're afraid to uppose certain things or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think they're being on code. I think because on
Speaker 1: code in America is to uphold white supremacy and whether
Speaker 1: whether whether whether the Republicans get what they want or
Speaker 1: the Democrats get what they want, white supremacy always gets
Speaker 1: what it wants. True, But that's a different conversation, so
Speaker 1: it's more than one thing can be true. At the
Speaker 1: same time, they're all on colde two birds are the
Speaker 1: same wing. Republican, Democrat, white supremacy. I'm with that. What
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is understand going back to your original question,
Speaker 1: how do we get more people involved? And what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say is if we start doing this ship
Speaker 1: like a gangster party and understanding the gangster mentality, the
Speaker 1: gangster requirements to push a line, to move your set.
Speaker 1: Democrats do not call each other out where a gangster
Speaker 1: will slap the funk out of you in front of
Speaker 1: everybody just to prove a point, because what you're never
Speaker 1: gonna do is disrespect my gangster. So that that's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's why the Democrats come off as as
Speaker 1: weak as weak and it's not that they don't do
Speaker 1: it behind the scenes. I'm in the room when they
Speaker 1: do it. It's not that they don't hurt each other.
Speaker 1: But it's on the slot. It's not a It doesn't
Speaker 1: motivate people on the outside to say there's some things
Speaker 1: that Democrats do by default that are good for our people.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't quick to say that it's not my job
Speaker 1: to cat for them, but obviously by default there's some
Speaker 1: good that has happened. But what I'm saying is people
Speaker 1: want to It's kind of like we grew up in
Speaker 1: an era where mommy, whoop your asks where you at?
Speaker 1: You show out in the store, in the store, right.
Speaker 1: So it's the that's it. It's the same mentality. That's
Speaker 1: the differencetween how Republicans get down versus how Democrats get down.
Speaker 1: So I just drove the I just try to show
Speaker 1: the difference between the two, not saying what's right or
Speaker 1: wrong or not that that they're not both a part
Speaker 1: of the same system. Because they are. And so we
Speaker 1: go into the rabbit hole of who is better and
Speaker 1: who is right. I don't give a funk about neither
Speaker 1: one of them. Like you said, the Democrats and republic
Speaker 1: I'm talking how do we get more of us involved.
Speaker 1: For our city commissioners are county commissioners. Our school board
Speaker 1: positions are precinct chair. If you're a precinct chair, you
Speaker 1: got a couple of hundred votes that you can partly
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, I got a couple hundred people that's
Speaker 1: gonna come to the polls. My mama, baby mama, their cousins, whoever.
Speaker 1: That's how we organized in Florida. We went after the
Speaker 1: people that nobody went after. Everybody goes after the supervoter.
Speaker 1: We went after the people with the feelins. They couldn't vote,
Speaker 1: but they mama could vote, their baby mama could vote.
Speaker 1: Freedom to the polls, and let's get this popit. We're
Speaker 1: gonna make sure that your program, your nonprofit or whatever
Speaker 1: it is, we're gonna take care of that so you
Speaker 1: can actually have resources. That's my only concern. Answer question, respect,
Speaker 1: Let me answer a question. Is the Democratic Party playing
Speaker 1: on black people? Wait a minute them because listen, man,
Speaker 1: because you know, the Democratic Party was the ones that
Speaker 1: was fighting to keep us in slaves. You do realize this, right,
Speaker 1: They wanted us to be slaves still to this day,
Speaker 1: you think they're playing on us to keep us in
Speaker 1: that in that box. You know, it's just a name, right,
Speaker 1: Democratic Republic. It's just a name. They just switched side.
Speaker 1: It's just a name. It's the same people, they just
Speaker 1: change their name. Okay, I agree that. Let's ask a pimp.
Speaker 1: Let's just take the mentality. Do the pimp play on
Speaker 1: the home? I mean, do you feel more slim? Do
Speaker 1: he not want all the homes? I mean, it's what
Speaker 1: politics is. It's pimping. It's literally I expect that we
Speaker 1: raced to get to these poles and vote for these Democrats.
Speaker 1: We don't get a thing. But because we don't have
Speaker 1: our own pimp running, when does our when does our go?
Speaker 1: We're gonna what is that? That's what. But if we
Speaker 1: have the conversation, they have to be able to see
Speaker 1: themselves in that and get enough people on the team
Speaker 1: that can explain this is your place. I'll give the
Speaker 1: analogy and I give it all the time. Pimps, politicians, pastors.
Speaker 1: It's the same speech me and you us. When the
Speaker 1: politician me, the first thing you start talking about is me.
Speaker 1: I'm Tess and Figaro born and raised x y Z
Speaker 1: went to such and such school. That's the me. Do you?
Speaker 1: Then I start seeing you? You know what, You and
Speaker 1: I got something in common. I did it just in
Speaker 1: this conversation. Well, you know, we grew up in an
Speaker 1: era where this and that and actually all much older
Speaker 1: than me. But the point is I grew so so
Speaker 1: I started. Then I start talking about you, and then
Speaker 1: I say, us, how do we relate? Okay, well, if
Speaker 1: you and I can get together and we can get
Speaker 1: some of these people together, and we can go down
Speaker 1: the third ward and we can get them together. All
Speaker 1: I need you to do is get fired alysses campaign
Speaker 1: and let's go to the post. Me and you us. Now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that's the politician. Let's talk about what
Speaker 1: the pimp do. Let's talk about the pastor me, you us?
Speaker 1: What is the pastor doing? The church called by the Father.
Speaker 1: The Lord told me that I was chosen. I'm the
Speaker 1: one nobody you you you know how to pass and
Speaker 1: say you gotta to two shall agree. And if you
Speaker 1: agree and you sow a seed in me, you know
Speaker 1: it's gonna the prayer is gonna be all of a
Speaker 1: sudden answer. Differently, because I got a direct line with
Speaker 1: the Father, the pastor. I'm the head, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: in charge. Then I say, you do you How many
Speaker 1: times have you been in church where they say I
Speaker 1: know I'm talking to somebody up in here. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself. I gotta prophetic in me too.
Speaker 1: I'm a blooeleg pastor. So when I say I know,
Speaker 1: I know I'm talking to somebody, I know somebody here
Speaker 1: to understand what it is I'm saying, Damn, he talking
Speaker 1: about me, He talking about me. Then the benediction comes,
Speaker 1: and now is me, you us. All I need you
Speaker 1: to do will is not just get that offering that time,
Speaker 1: but I need about five thousand more and me, you
Speaker 1: and us together. When we plant the seed together, you're
Speaker 1: now sowing in good fertile ground. And now you'll be
Speaker 1: blessed because you've been blessed by the head of this church. Me, you, us.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the pimp. What did the pimp do?
Speaker 1: Showing up? I'm looking good. Look at me, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the madam. I'm looking good. I got on
Speaker 1: for our clothes. I'm looking good. Now I'm gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the you. I'm gonna see that whole down. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, man, you you're looking kind of sucked
Speaker 1: up right now. Mama. Your ship ain't together. You're here,
Speaker 1: ain't together. You don't have a place to stay. You're
Speaker 1: not looking good. Look at me and look at you.
Speaker 1: But if me and you get together, to me, you us,
Speaker 1: ain't it the cold ass analogy? To me? You want
Speaker 1: to get together? Means you to do is give me
Speaker 1: everything you make while you on the corner, and me
Speaker 1: and you together, we're gonna be blessed together and take
Speaker 1: over the world. And now you gotta you got somebody
Speaker 1: in the game. They got you giving you. You're giving
Speaker 1: him everything to pimp everything and you get nothing in return.
Speaker 1: Some of these churches, there some great churches, but some
Speaker 1: of these churches you're giving the Man of God everything
Speaker 1: and you've got nothing in return. These politicians, you're giving
Speaker 1: them everything and you've got nothing in return. To me,
Speaker 1: you us, it's the pimp game, and it happens all
Speaker 1: around us. We just don't identify it and see it
Speaker 1: for what it is. So it used to Booted podcast
Speaker 1: will be right back after the point. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: Fox News for ment moment. People when they see you
Speaker 1: on Fox News, they immediately start thinking that you're an agent.
Speaker 1: They started immediately thinking that, Okay, she's a Republican, she's
Speaker 1: down with your that agenda or whatever. When I saw you,
Speaker 1: I immediately said, damn, she's talking that type of ship
Speaker 1: on Fox you know, like because again, like you're none partisan.
Speaker 1: And so I thought to myself, I said, she could
Speaker 1: be a good mediator. And then when I started doing
Speaker 1: my homework on when I started doing my research on you,
Speaker 1: I discovered that you have done media mediation work in uh, Florida. Like,
Speaker 1: how how did that come about? I'm good like you
Speaker 1: said Florida Supreme Court media appach approach and for the
Speaker 1: impelling are you still working in the capathity? Still have
Speaker 1: my my certification, my license? Yes, they approach you. It's
Speaker 1: something I estentually, Uh, I'm good with Outside of politics.
Speaker 1: I ran on business at a staff and firm three
Speaker 1: dred employees. I worked for the largest corporations in the world. Um,
Speaker 1: I want or Lando Business Journal twice. My company was
Speaker 1: called the Allied Group. I understand how to bring people
Speaker 1: together different walks of life. My life path is a
Speaker 1: life path nine for those who study you know, life
Speaker 1: path and Numerology and Life Path nine literally brings every
Speaker 1: walk of life together, and it's having the gift of
Speaker 1: discernment to be able to see other people how they
Speaker 1: may not see themselves, to be able to see what
Speaker 1: walk that they've had to see how we really I
Speaker 1: could be damn good. Pam grew up like around the
Speaker 1: strip club house, Mom. They say women as any women
Speaker 1: ever approach you and ask you to pimp them, absolutely well,
Speaker 1: they don't have to answer me. I could choose anybody
Speaker 1: I want. What I'm saying like, yeah, I've had I've had,
Speaker 1: I've had women come to me before. Yeah, they choose
Speaker 1: me all the time. Yeah I can't do that. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying, they choose me all the time, men have
Speaker 1: choosed me. Let back in the drawn up glass key
Speaker 1: the strip club you, I mean it is an double
Speaker 1: DS make me twice as nice. I could out pimp
Speaker 1: any nigger. I mean seriously, you know why, because I
Speaker 1: got something that you don't have. I can actually feel
Speaker 1: in for her when she's off work, So you can
Speaker 1: never do that. That's what made Howie flights. What is
Speaker 1: feeling for her? Meaning that if you can't pimping is
Speaker 1: all about the mind. The mind. So the reason why
Speaker 1: Hottie Flights and reason why they took Hottie Flights at
Speaker 1: the game. The cold is female pimp to ever live
Speaker 1: is because she empowered her holes. When you empower people, see,
Speaker 1: it's only so far PA can take it. You either
Speaker 1: having sex with her, or you talk game to death,
Speaker 1: or you make a fall in love with you. But
Speaker 1: when a woman is good at her pimping, it's a
Speaker 1: different empowerment that I get. Heidi Flights was really successful
Speaker 1: because she was able to empower. Oh, it wasn't about
Speaker 1: beating them up and bringing them down. She let them
Speaker 1: get their own money. She let them do whatever. I
Speaker 1: used to have a round where I say I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm Heidi Flights when my double ds make me twice
Speaker 1: as nice, which means that I can talk you and
Speaker 1: I can talk a woman or something you can never
Speaker 1: talk her into. Yeah, if I was you, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: If I was you, I'll do a girl. If you
Speaker 1: don't do what, I'll do it. So you could never
Speaker 1: do that because I got what they got. So when
Speaker 1: you got a female that's cold at her pimping, cold
Speaker 1: at or talk game, every woman can't do it. It's
Speaker 1: something definitely don't try at home. That's why women should
Speaker 1: be very That's why women should be very careful around
Speaker 1: other women because what they don't know is that a
Speaker 1: lot of times when they're in these clubs and at
Speaker 1: these resources and things like that, women are often used
Speaker 1: as an accomplices for males to date, you know, to
Speaker 1: date rape these uh, these women did slip these date
Speaker 1: raped drugs and stuff like that into their drinks. Because
Speaker 1: a woman would be immediately relaxed around another woman because
Speaker 1: she feels like she don't want Let's go back to
Speaker 1: when you say she like I want to dig into that.
Speaker 1: I want to dig into that. Like when you say
Speaker 1: she when I say I can talk her into stuff,
Speaker 1: you can never talking to you, yeah, because you know why,
Speaker 1: all you can do is funer. She want to be me,
Speaker 1: I don't. You're right, but the thing, the idea that
Speaker 1: she wants to be with you. I'm talking at the
Speaker 1: pip gang, right, But guess what when a woman is
Speaker 1: cold on her piper, she want to be me. See
Speaker 1: that's a difference. I want to be what you want
Speaker 1: to be me. It's a different Now, it don't work
Speaker 1: on every woman. Just like everything else. You got different demographic.
Speaker 1: But there's that woman that want to be I want
Speaker 1: to be like that, But I want to be what that?
Speaker 1: What is that to walk in the room and be respected.
Speaker 1: It's only so many women, and I just want to
Speaker 1: be as woman. I'm cool. I just want to be
Speaker 1: the bottom. I just want to be one of me
Speaker 1: need But there's a different level of empowerment that a
Speaker 1: woman can have on another woman to say, but I
Speaker 1: want to be that ship though. And that's what I
Speaker 1: mean when I say yeah. That's why Oprah was so effective.
Speaker 1: There were so many women that wanted her life, wanted
Speaker 1: that lifestyle, and Oprah could literally literally tell them to
Speaker 1: go marry a cat and they would do it literally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and it's a gift and occur. You can either
Speaker 1: use it for good. That's why I tell people all
Speaker 1: the time. If I want to just get the bag
Speaker 1: or just get the money, that's simple. I'm over there
Speaker 1: with all the like it's easy. Oh yeah, the money
Speaker 1: on the conservative side, Let's make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: Michael Cohen Off of me, fame and fortune and everything
Speaker 1: you can think of. The one that ended up flipping
Speaker 1: on Trump first time I went on Fox News, got
Speaker 1: off the got off the set. He was on the
Speaker 1: speaker phone. Hey, I'll make you famous. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is before Canada's owns was Canda's own. She was. They
Speaker 1: absolutely seek out our best because what they don't want
Speaker 1: our best to do is use their resources and their
Speaker 1: intelligence to empower out. So soon as they identify a
Speaker 1: black person who is well spoken, who is charismatic, who
Speaker 1: has a good look, they immediately try to wrestle them
Speaker 1: away and get them on that teams so that they
Speaker 1: cannot empower their own people. Absolutely. That's why when people
Speaker 1: tell me, oh, you must be paid to say that, No,
Speaker 1: think about it. I know what. You can look at
Speaker 1: my cliffs. The Republicans saying, while I'll be on the air,
Speaker 1: ow wown. We wish we had you on our side.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you'd be great on us. They literally I've
Speaker 1: had people come to me in the airport. You know,
Speaker 1: we take care of our own. That's where the paper is,
Speaker 1: and I put the book out. They get the book,
Speaker 1: they wait, I mean, let's keep it real, fucking what
Speaker 1: Our own is the hardest thing in the world. Not
Speaker 1: only do I gotta fight white supremacs, I gotta fight
Speaker 1: my own and it's like I'm literally talking to a
Speaker 1: cemetery on most days. So the papers on that side, speaking, speaking, speaking, speaking,
Speaker 1: and speaking of that, there is a whole lot of
Speaker 1: conjecture on your Instagram page, like the people come to
Speaker 1: your page all the time talking shit about politics, and
Speaker 1: to me, I'm sitting back and it's it's amusing but
Speaker 1: at the same time sometimes make my head hurt. But
Speaker 1: you go in on them and you do it like
Speaker 1: what is it called when you do something classy and nasty?
Speaker 1: It's like it's like nasty, nice, nicety. You're nicety with it.
Speaker 1: But I mean it doesn't ever get to you that
Speaker 1: that people can be that damn stupid. No, because we've
Speaker 1: had this conversation. First of all, I enjoy it, you know,
Speaker 1: I come from the era like we did. I love
Speaker 1: playing the dozens, so that's the number one. And again
Speaker 1: I like free do I like the are the freestyle
Speaker 1: battle And it's like asking a MC do you like
Speaker 1: getting on the microphone? You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: tell people don't and I do it, Willie, because I
Speaker 1: don't want you to confusing with these other commentators is
Speaker 1: out here like I actually enjoyed this. I'm good at this,
Speaker 1: not bragging. I'm just I'm good at this off the
Speaker 1: dome type of talk. And I talk ship, I do singers,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about people's mama's, daddy's and still mixing in politics.
Speaker 1: So when I do it because I enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: don't do it all the time. And you and I
Speaker 1: have had this conversation like to them, why do you
Speaker 1: waste your time? But I do it because I also
Speaker 1: want people to know that you can you can rock
Speaker 1: this mic like both ways like this. You know this
Speaker 1: is a gift that God has given me. So when
Speaker 1: somebody come in and say it's like telling the m
Speaker 1: c hey man, don't don't free stop out it, don't
Speaker 1: say nothing back, don't talk ship back. It's it's who
Speaker 1: I am. I like it. It's practice, it's it's literally
Speaker 1: sparring practice. So I enjoy it. Sometimes I don't say
Speaker 1: ship at all, but when I do, I do, and
Speaker 1: it's important that people see that, like, no, that's the
Speaker 1: home girl for real. She really don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I don't have a nonprofit. I don't want your vote,
Speaker 1: I don't want your donation. I don't want ship from you,
Speaker 1: fuck you and your mama. Nobody does it in politics
Speaker 1: but me. Isn't it necessary to have somebody do that?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, that's necessary. So when
Speaker 1: you do your thing, you do your thing. You know
Speaker 1: you got a comments person and saying funk you and
Speaker 1: your daddy. That's important to have that in the game
Speaker 1: because nobody else does that in the game because they
Speaker 1: and no disrespect to anybody, but most of them are
Speaker 1: driven by career. They're driven by you know what, other
Speaker 1: opportunity they're gonna get. What is it gonna look like.
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk how it looks. This is
Speaker 1: who I am. You either. You just answered my question.
Speaker 1: I was about to ask you, how do you reconcile
Speaker 1: when people coming at you saying like, hey, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to be on this type of level. You're a political
Speaker 1: analysts or commentator and you're talking like that. Yeah, great question.
Speaker 1: Debits and credits. The dead already been paid. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: not supposed to be here, and I'm not talking at
Speaker 1: the dead paid by the most high that too, but
Speaker 1: I'm not even supposed to be here. When you've had
Speaker 1: guns in your head and you've been involved in certain situations.
Speaker 1: I'm not e supposed to be here with the funk.
Speaker 1: I look like getting this far in the game and
Speaker 1: then switch up. This is who I am. I'm so well,
Speaker 1: I'm not above doing ship. And I've told girlfriends and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've lost my business, started my business, lost
Speaker 1: my business starting. Nobody to put me in this ship.
Speaker 1: I've lost twenty plus family members in the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: Both my parents in the ground. Nobody and my family
Speaker 1: has ever been in politics. Nobody put me home. Nobody said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, this would be great for you. I got
Speaker 1: here with this hustle. But what does the game come
Speaker 1: from though, you know, push your daddy and hustling. He
Speaker 1: was in the game early on, yes, okay, and then
Speaker 1: after that he got caught up in the streets and
Speaker 1: and didn't recover. Was always around and you you had
Speaker 1: some background of dating like gas, right, So you dated
Speaker 1: these guys. So was that at a point thats a
Speaker 1: guy may be older than you that I dated always,
Speaker 1: which they did't handle business, by the way, tell them
Speaker 1: that now. But yeah, every year every ninth grade, I
Speaker 1: mean I literally Willie from sixties cript you know, ten
Speaker 1: uh Inglewood California, Athens part E t Running from the
Speaker 1: fairst rest in peace, like literally every single year of
Speaker 1: my life sixth grade. I grew up in a blood territory.
Speaker 1: But my best friend Patrice Kelly, shout out to her.
Speaker 1: She was a great street crip. Her brother was from sixties,
Speaker 1: the only crips in the neighborhood. When I would walk
Speaker 1: through the hood and walk through the street, I remember
Speaker 1: at school when I would tell ever like, man, I
Speaker 1: can't wear this blue big kemmy be like, you're gonna
Speaker 1: put that blue on. You're gonna mob through these is
Speaker 1: happening in North Highland. Yeah, I don't know why you
Speaker 1: you get so y'all did awards here. We did a
Speaker 1: gang bang. People didn't. People just really don't think of
Speaker 1: when they don't when they think of game Bang, and
Speaker 1: people just really don't think of Oklahoma. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they don't think of the wet y'all may not
Speaker 1: think of it in the South, but that's where the
Speaker 1: doge game was. When the fat when when when ice
Speaker 1: Cube talked about vacation day and going out and setting
Speaker 1: up shop, That's what happened in Kansas, Oklahoma. It happened
Speaker 1: in Texas. But y'all did awards. We did north Side
Speaker 1: South Yeah, Southside, we did bloods and cribs because that
Speaker 1: is who game and set up shops. So when I
Speaker 1: talk about my day ones Clipper Spud Johnson niggas I
Speaker 1: met in was a freshman sophomore in school, I was
Speaker 1: a sure leader during the day and at night I
Speaker 1: was the trap. My mom never knew rest in peace.
Speaker 1: But this was a part of that was a part
Speaker 1: of the culture. That was our income. That was what
Speaker 1: it was all the I talked to the dope dealers
Speaker 1: because I was fine, you know back then, but that
Speaker 1: was that was the income, that was what drove the streets. Um.
Speaker 1: So I don't know anybody that was in the game
Speaker 1: that was pushing keys, damn. So don't know about the Midwest.
Speaker 1: I called Oklahoma to Midwest, even though some may say Southwest,
Speaker 1: but it really was pushing dope, you know, from Kansas.
Speaker 1: To realize how many federal cases, almost some of the
Speaker 1: top federal cases in the country have come out of Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: More people are incarcerated, more women are incarcerating in Oklahoma
Speaker 1: than anywhere in the world, and most of their cases
Speaker 1: are directly related to drug cases were able to escape
Speaker 1: the long hands of the law. Absolutely, I didn't get caught.
Speaker 1: You never got no. I never got some people, no
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I just spent their money. I tried to
Speaker 1: say a weed one time, and it was terrible. I
Speaker 1: was like a telemarket. I was calling y'all needs well,
Speaker 1: like I'm just shut up to Chris because in order
Speaker 1: to say a weed, anybody know, I always lived like
Speaker 1: far out because I always want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I was safe. Um, so the dope man has and
Speaker 1: y'all noticed. But for the people who don't know, the
Speaker 1: dope man usually got their baby mama, and then they
Speaker 1: got their side they and then they got another one
Speaker 1: that they flossed at the club. So I was the
Speaker 1: one that they take the flows at the club. Then
Speaker 1: there was the side check that kept the work at
Speaker 1: the house. And you know, she really thought she was
Speaker 1: connected to dude and he really wasn't sing with him,
Speaker 1: but he kept the work. I never kept a ship
Speaker 1: at my Then you had the baby mama. That was
Speaker 1: the one. Look I'm giving all the game that really
Speaker 1: with the dude, and her whole life was sucked up
Speaker 1: when he got caught. So I never wanted to be
Speaker 1: the baby mama. I always had my little square job,
Speaker 1: but was spending their money. I was the fly one.
Speaker 1: I was the thirty pounds, which I'm about to sometimes
Speaker 1: gonna get back to my old men, the thirty pounds
Speaker 1: smalling what you see now. I was the one that
Speaker 1: kept at the club that they showed out this my
Speaker 1: girl whatever. I didn't keep their work out and keep
Speaker 1: they spent their money out and keep their doping my house.
Speaker 1: So I was just around a lot of men that
Speaker 1: showed me the game, that showed me everything about the game. Um,
Speaker 1: so I didn't get caught. That's the difference. I didn't
Speaker 1: get caught. Wasn't you know when they got pulled over,
Speaker 1: when they got robbed? When different. There's been some situations
Speaker 1: that I've been ended up with some stuff that I've seen,
Speaker 1: but I just didn't get caught. But I'm assuming that
Speaker 1: they came to you at one point and said, showed
Speaker 1: you some pictures. You know the game. You know this
Speaker 1: person really trying to make men know the game. It's
Speaker 1: like an unspeakable code that we don't never talk about
Speaker 1: your mother, right, I do know that ain't nobody ain't
Speaker 1: no game man, game, Bro, the game. The game is dead,
Speaker 1: bro At it's a secret subody that's anybody today, Bro,
Speaker 1: need to be in jail. If your asses, if you
Speaker 1: don't see all this ship that's been happening out here,
Speaker 1: if you don't see how really, how serious these people
Speaker 1: is about giving your ass a thousand years, well, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If you don't see that ship, if
Speaker 1: you don't figure, if you can't figure that ship, if
Speaker 1: you don't understand the risk that's involved with putting your
Speaker 1: family and you say you love your kids, but you're
Speaker 1: in the car riding with your kids and you know
Speaker 1: these boys after you, and then they open up and
Speaker 1: then your kids are dead. He's st killing grandmama's they're
Speaker 1: killing granddad and killing your mama, your dad. Man, that
Speaker 1: ship that huh just started this week? Now it ain't
Speaker 1: just started. But my my point is that that ship
Speaker 1: is over. Bro. It's like we we can't, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: we can't keep excusing this type of bad behavior. We can't.
Speaker 1: We can't keep it and him and I'm saying, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna speak on the ship when i want to,
Speaker 1: when i want to speak on it because I don't
Speaker 1: respect the ship at all. I don't respect nothing about it,
Speaker 1: and the ship is detrimental to our communities. We gotta
Speaker 1: get rid of these motherfucker's that's out here sucking up
Speaker 1: my ship because we cannot begin to try to hold
Speaker 1: somebody on the out side accountable who don't look like
Speaker 1: us accountable when we don't hold our goddamnselves accountable. That
Speaker 1: goes back, That goes back to us. That goes back
Speaker 1: to what you were just saying, how to how the Republicans, uh,
Speaker 1: Conservatives check each other on the spot, and the Democrats
Speaker 1: sit back and watch it and try to be and
Speaker 1: try to go alone and get along. You see, mother, Ri,
Speaker 1: what's the alternative? What's the alternative that you would offer?
Speaker 1: What you think? What you think is the alternative? I'm
Speaker 1: asking you, I'm asking, I'm ask if you know the alternative?
Speaker 1: Tell me, because I because one thing that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get into is getting set up with a dumby question.
Speaker 1: So you tell me what the alternative is, since I'm
Speaker 1: clear against it, since I clearly think that it's detrimental
Speaker 1: to our communities, So I can say, what is the alternative?
Speaker 1: Let me say this first and foremost. I can't go
Speaker 1: to you and say, Willie, I need you to stop
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck is you're doing, and I offer you
Speaker 1: an alternative. Okay, Okay, okay, So let me say this.
Speaker 1: I ain't going to nobody to say stop ship. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: we are responsible for our own actions. So for me
Speaker 1: to go and ask him something, so so for me
Speaker 1: to go and ask you for something or what or
Speaker 1: whatever is to imply that somehow you hold some type
Speaker 1: of power over me. I ain't asking for ship. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: just like we don't ask to protest, to march the boycott.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be asking these motherfucking killers in our neighborhood
Speaker 1: and these gangsters that's tearing our ship up, making it
Speaker 1: unsafe fire women and children to walk street, even our boys,
Speaker 1: even our boys and our men to be in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be asking these motherfucker's for permission to stop
Speaker 1: sucking up our ship. We gotta, we gotta get off
Speaker 1: that motherfucking exkills ship and all that motherfucking tip torn
Speaker 1: around this ship and confront this ship directly. It's time.
Speaker 1: It don't matter that you did something back in the
Speaker 1: dance because one thing that I realized is that you know,
Speaker 1: and and I even put myself. You know, I've done
Speaker 1: some fucked up ship in the past myself too. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that what I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: a lot of us, a lot of us will, a
Speaker 1: lot of us are apprehensive about calling the bullshit because
Speaker 1: we know we was on some bullshit when we were younger.
Speaker 1: But when you know better, you do better. At some point,
Speaker 1: we gotta cut this ship, bro, We gotta cut the
Speaker 1: fucking ambiblical card. We gotta cut it, bro. We can't
Speaker 1: just keep on that. That is what one of the
Speaker 1: biggest reasons why we can't move forward. We we're fighting
Speaker 1: this wall over here. We got a war going on
Speaker 1: over here, but we're not addressing this ship over here
Speaker 1: because motherfucker's looking like us. There's our family members of
Speaker 1: these are friends, these peop but we know so we're
Speaker 1: not addressing this ship. But meanwhile, the first time one
Speaker 1: of these motherfucker's out here to do something, we're up
Speaker 1: and on. Do you think two things can be done
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, Well, if if the game,
Speaker 1: if the streets got a colde man, I just believe
Speaker 1: that you ain't no fucking code. Bro. The motherfucker the
Speaker 1: motherfucking the motherfucking cold is either if you ain't helping,
Speaker 1: you hurting. That's the goddamn cold. Now you tell every
Speaker 1: everybody listening to me, right, motherfucking sound everybody, now, I'm no,
Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't got a sound reality. It ain't
Speaker 1: got it. It ain't got it. It ain't gotta sound good.
Speaker 1: It's still going I know it's still going on, but
Speaker 1: they ain't got it. My point ain't trying to make
Speaker 1: it sound good. I'm making the point I'm trying to
Speaker 1: ain't trying to make it sound I'm saying, if you
Speaker 1: ain't helping, you hurt. So take inventory of your mother
Speaker 1: fucking life right now. Especially the people out here it
Speaker 1: is always talking about they're doing this, they're doing this
Speaker 1: to us. We can't this, we care it. Take inventory
Speaker 1: of your motherfucking life right now. Look at yourself. Fun
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Look at yourself and say to yourself,
Speaker 1: am I helping my community or am I hurting my community?
Speaker 1: And if your ass is hurting, your motherfucking asked, need
Speaker 1: to go now. That's the goddamn bottom line. All that
Speaker 1: other ship. I ain't ain't with it, bro, motherfucker. You
Speaker 1: brought that child into the world a child and not
Speaker 1: asked to come to this wild ass motherfucking west of
Speaker 1: a goddamn society. You brought him into his motherfucker. It's
Speaker 1: your responsibility to make sure that their motherfucking ride is
Speaker 1: as smooth as possible. That's your job. Your job is
Speaker 1: not the fucking abandon your child and have some other
Speaker 1: mother can man uh raising your child. And and then
Speaker 1: you're sitting back and your house is sucking totally wider
Speaker 1: when the man leaves the house, the heart the house
Speaker 1: is totally wide open for it to be raped and pillaged.
Speaker 1: And that is why a lot of these little girls
Speaker 1: get taking advantage of it ship because they ain't got
Speaker 1: no stood, they ain't got no motherfucking man a solid
Speaker 1: right there making sure that people know you come to
Speaker 1: this motherfucking house, you better come with some respect. You
Speaker 1: ain't coming up in here and doing anything because because
Speaker 1: because because it's a man on the other side of
Speaker 1: this door. So let me ask you. You said if
Speaker 1: they know better, they do better, And then you also
Speaker 1: said these people know would you would you agree that
Speaker 1: that everybody is not as in the know as if
Speaker 1: you as as you are now versus twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: would you agree to that? I would agree absolutely. And
Speaker 1: when would you agree that there is a lack of
Speaker 1: like when you said there's not necessarily a man in
Speaker 1: the house that would you agree that some people's conditions
Speaker 1: has been a result of the lack of knowledge not
Speaker 1: just from them, but the generation and the generation prior
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, And so you agree that we are
Speaker 1: should hold ourselves accountable, but you also agree you talk
Speaker 1: at white supremacy a lot. You also agree that there
Speaker 1: is also some conditions that are out of our control
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, yet and and and also I agree,
Speaker 1: And one last thing, when because you sound like you
Speaker 1: just gave a tough on crime speech, but you also
Speaker 1: would agree as soon based on our relationship that it's
Speaker 1: not that like everything I know they did time and
Speaker 1: this is just my own small pole. I'm doing a
Speaker 1: whole class on poles. Like what that means if I
Speaker 1: take a pole and say everybody in this room. In
Speaker 1: this room, that's literally just two of you, So I
Speaker 1: have to be careful when we say everybody out. I
Speaker 1: don't like absolutes but I like to be careful, you know,
Speaker 1: when I'm speaking on certain groups. So the people that
Speaker 1: I know that have done time, it's not that they
Speaker 1: I'll see somebody in come and say, oh, they know,
Speaker 1: they don't want to hear that. They don't want to
Speaker 1: take accountability. Everybody I know they did time took accountability.
Speaker 1: One reason they took accountability didn't snitche Now this is
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into the cold thing, but I'm getting
Speaker 1: into the the idea of taking responsibility for your own actions.
Speaker 1: And so we come from generation where you took accountability
Speaker 1: for your own So that's the accountable number one, doing
Speaker 1: your own time and the homy my son talks about
Speaker 1: that a lot. It's not that um like my friends
Speaker 1: spoiled for example. It is not that he didn't take
Speaker 1: accountability for selling dope. The question was what how. It's
Speaker 1: not if there's crime, it's how do we handle that crime?
Speaker 1: How do we how do we make it punitive and fair?
Speaker 1: So seventeen years to me for never being caught with
Speaker 1: dope in a conspiracy for crack cocaine disparaged you for
Speaker 1: the first time non by the defender is yeah, that
Speaker 1: that's far too much that's exactly it. So as long
Speaker 1: as we're having a conversation where we say, yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to hold each other account, we want to say, hey, spoil,
Speaker 1: why don't you do something different, why don't you change
Speaker 1: your life? But at the same time, if he gets
Speaker 1: caught up, whether it's according to his conditions are because
Speaker 1: he chose that's correct, how can we say he do
Speaker 1: sixteen years And I used him as an example. I
Speaker 1: talked about him a lot because he was a part
Speaker 1: of the Blood and Crypt treaty. And when I look
Speaker 1: at that was the only time, like in our generation,
Speaker 1: our generation X, where we really got together to say
Speaker 1: fun that we're gonna do something different. I have a
Speaker 1: poem where I talked about it. I said, it all
Speaker 1: started back with Rodney King. They knew to get those
Speaker 1: real soldiers off the scene, locked them up, young brothers,
Speaker 1: got buck and that is them on the TV and
Speaker 1: now the buck. I said that to say that even
Speaker 1: then systematic, when we was time when Bloods and Chris said,
Speaker 1: you know that we're gonna do something different, and they
Speaker 1: got together and said you know what, let's get together.
Speaker 1: Shout to all those guys that made that effort. And
Speaker 1: at the same time, we know also that they will
Speaker 1: undermine and that's where the system comes into play. So
Speaker 1: when the ninety four Crime Bill came out, the the
Speaker 1: fucking police the government. So when that's what I'm correct,
Speaker 1: so two things can be done at the same time.
Speaker 1: When they say, you know what funk all this singing?
Speaker 1: I remember saying that they got the clip when they said,
Speaker 1: that's it when we don't do something different. And then
Speaker 1: the system came into play and said we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a war on drugs and we're gonna lock up every nigga.
Speaker 1: But the crack cocaine disparageing, it wasn't that fund and
Speaker 1: many others didn't take accountability for their crime. But when
Speaker 1: you say I'm gonna take you away for sixteen years
Speaker 1: and now you've got two sons at the house and
Speaker 1: he left, that's it, so we can't that's it. And
Speaker 1: and then that Paul when I said, now they locked
Speaker 1: up and young brothers on the TV. Now they bucked,
Speaker 1: But now the home is about to come home. That
Speaker 1: was what I said. And now it's really on. Now
Speaker 1: that's what we're going through right now. When we went
Speaker 1: through first step back the Republicans supported. I supported, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's get everybody home. Let's get everybody. I'll tell the
Speaker 1: niggas out time, because we're faces right, the game is
Speaker 1: the game. I tell hey, they're about to come. Lock
Speaker 1: your ass up. I've been you. You follow a lot
Speaker 1: of what I say. I said two years ago, this
Speaker 1: should the same way they let you. Niggas out there
Speaker 1: about to come get you tenfold. That's the system, and
Speaker 1: that's the balance of what you're talking about accountability. Also
Speaker 1: recognizing there's a system right now. When when Eric mayor
Speaker 1: Eric wanted New York, he literally came out and said,
Speaker 1: I'm the proto type. I don't I don't excuse bad behavior, period,
Speaker 1: and I don't excuse I don't believe in rewarding bad behavior.
Speaker 1: Under notes, even when I got into jam, when anytime
Speaker 1: I got a JAM, I was always willing to face
Speaker 1: the consequences. Of course, I wanted to blow to be
Speaker 1: as self as possible. But I'm okay with I'm okay
Speaker 1: with were facing the responsibility because you know, I put
Speaker 1: myself in that position, and not all the time do
Speaker 1: we put ourselves in some st positions because sometimes you
Speaker 1: know it's the system. They come But but The thing
Speaker 1: is this, we know most of us at least no
Speaker 1: have some idea by the time we're eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: that we have identified that there are traps. We see
Speaker 1: our friends going to jail. We must understand that don't matter.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how you you were raised, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what hardships that you had, it doesn't matter that
Speaker 1: you're black. You walk your ass into that courtroom that
Speaker 1: judge is going to do with that judge was hired
Speaker 1: to do, that prosecute is going to do with that
Speaker 1: prosecutor was hard to do. That is lock of black bodies.
Speaker 1: That's what they That's what they were hired to do.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just saying, I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: gotta be perfect, and I'm saying nand just understand, I'm
Speaker 1: saying be aware of that and and know that ultimately
Speaker 1: that is not gonna be a good defense. My mama
Speaker 1: wasn't there, my daddy was a crackhead. But niggas ain't
Speaker 1: really using that defense though. I mean, that's what that's
Speaker 1: what Face is saying. They nobody come none times ten.
Speaker 1: They're taking the pla anyway, So literally, they're not using
Speaker 1: that excuse they're taking the opportunity that they have in
Speaker 1: front of them. And that's where I mean, y'are saying
Speaker 1: the same thing. I just think you're saying a different ways.
Speaker 1: It's not like who going side with my mama wasn't
Speaker 1: there and I think you should get time. Niggas ain't
Speaker 1: doing that. For the most part. They're getting that time.
Speaker 1: And they're saying I'm gona tell on somebody and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna you know, I'm gonna give my TI reduced. But
Speaker 1: I don't see people literally saying, hey, I think I
Speaker 1: should get a pass because of X y Z. I
Speaker 1: do think that that that's sometimes going to a white
Speaker 1: supremacy talking point of thinking that we're using excuses. It's
Speaker 1: not that we're using excuses. We're telling it like it
Speaker 1: is so everybody. Everybody uses excuses and spacies. Everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: uses excuses and everything, and every and everybody makes complaints
Speaker 1: act impossible, people accountable because we had help getting in
Speaker 1: the position that we're in right now. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not that's not impossible, Brad, It's not impossible. It's not impossible.
Speaker 1: If you have a neighbor, If you have a neighbor
Speaker 1: and your neighbor is uh, stepping outside and custing out
Speaker 1: the kids. It's up to people that the community has
Speaker 1: first action at at that person. Are you gonna Are
Speaker 1: you gonna just keep calling the police and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: this guy is cussing out the kids. Are are you
Speaker 1: gonna say? You know what? I think I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: something a little different because this ship can got to stop, right,
Speaker 1: the ship got to stop. I'm saying this man that
Speaker 1: we have the number one be held accountable for our said,
Speaker 1: we have to hold ourselves accountable, and then and then
Speaker 1: the larger community has to hold each other accountable. Right,
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that, yes, there are gonna be situations
Speaker 1: where people get themselves in a jam. And when that happens,
Speaker 1: let's give grace. Let's try to have grace. What graces do.
Speaker 1: Let's have some more flexibility because people with our more
Speaker 1: flexibility scared. Like I was saying, bro, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just remember that we didn't put ourselves in this position. Okay,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of help. A lot of this
Speaker 1: ship is stealing from the help that we had to
Speaker 1: get in this position in the first place. So that
Speaker 1: that that's what I'm saying, I got it, okay, so
Speaker 1: you got okay? So do we got knowing that boys
Speaker 1: remoted podcasts will be break back after the great knowing
Speaker 1: that knowing that, yeah, okay, what do we do we
Speaker 1: it's just accept the conditions? Or do we try to
Speaker 1: make some type of amends? Are we try to make
Speaker 1: some type of corrections? What do we do? We have
Speaker 1: to make some type of amends and some type of corrections.
Speaker 1: But and that's what I'm saying, So we have to
Speaker 1: do something different. And I think the thing that we're
Speaker 1: not doing is holding each other accountable. But it isn't
Speaker 1: really fair though, because that bothers me because they usually
Speaker 1: comes from a concert, not saying you want but a
Speaker 1: conservatives why you don't hold each other buttative organization? I
Speaker 1: mean you're holding people accountable right now, like literally, So
Speaker 1: to say that I don't like absolutes. You know, we
Speaker 1: all always we don't get it up to say that
Speaker 1: we're not holding each other Canada, I just it's it's
Speaker 1: simply just not true. Could there be more? Yes, but
Speaker 1: there are more positive organizations of what people are doing
Speaker 1: the right thing that are trying to turn around these
Speaker 1: kids that don't have the funding that do it on
Speaker 1: their own, to do it on their own time, that
Speaker 1: reach out to people to have conversations. They don't have
Speaker 1: the support because of part of that system. If if
Speaker 1: Americle is really interested in really reducing crime, the facts show,
Speaker 1: not the emotions. The facts show that when you invest
Speaker 1: in preventative measures, with access to after school programs, with jobs,
Speaker 1: with investing. There was a group and I know you
Speaker 1: remember because I think you've shared it on your page
Speaker 1: where the fathers were going around to the school and
Speaker 1: they were going and you know, being security and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I've been a sub in Title five schools
Speaker 1: and the homy I was on time watch your bringing
Speaker 1: homies in there, Like there's a different level of respect
Speaker 1: that somebody is coming from their environment. Not the police,
Speaker 1: not community policing, but just you dealing with somebody will
Speaker 1: actually sit down and have a conversation. They know the
Speaker 1: system knows that these things work, and they choose to
Speaker 1: do the opposite, go straight to we gotta hold them
Speaker 1: accountable and lock them up. It's not that we're disputing
Speaker 1: that there's crime and there shouldnt be accountability. The question
Speaker 1: is how do you prevent it? What do you do
Speaker 1: when they're when it is time to be punitive in
Speaker 1: a system that does not favor us. I get what
Speaker 1: you're saying, which is, hey man, the game is what
Speaker 1: it is. You get locked up. It's not gonna be
Speaker 1: fair to you. Understanding this. Understand life ain't gonna be fair.
Speaker 1: Funk what they're talking about? What? Oh, it ain't fair. No,
Speaker 1: we get it. It ain't gonna be fair. You gotta
Speaker 1: move differently, You gotta be better, you gotta be smarter,
Speaker 1: you gotta grind. You know, we get that for our
Speaker 1: own children. And having that conversation with Phase is saying,
Speaker 1: is though, we still have to acknowledge the system in itself,
Speaker 1: and I just I lean, I don't support the idea
Speaker 1: that we're not doing doing anything because they go to
Speaker 1: kind of those talking points and that's just not true.
Speaker 1: There are way more organizations that are doing it on
Speaker 1: their own. I talked about Sylvia not all the time.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite nonprofits, you know, from the
Speaker 1: non family in Compton, California, that's doing the work, that's
Speaker 1: putting in time, that's dealing with these kids. Does she
Speaker 1: have funding from the government, Is there anybody sourcing her
Speaker 1: the way they source these Democrats, organizations, Urban League, the
Speaker 1: Double A CP. They don't put the money into that
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, Willie, I like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Let me go put some money behind what
Speaker 1: you're doing to move people in a different direction. So
Speaker 1: I just think it's unfair to say that ain't nobody
Speaker 1: doing nothing well, I think, And I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: everything that you said, because you know, words do mean
Speaker 1: something that I guess maybe I poorly articularly articulated what
Speaker 1: I said. I don't want I don't want somebody to
Speaker 1: take what I'm trying to say out of context, because
Speaker 1: you know, out work, I'm in the streets, I'm on
Speaker 1: the communities for it. I got a new foundation. I
Speaker 1: actually put the work in on a daily basis with
Speaker 1: social programs. I understand the need for social programs because
Speaker 1: that's why we say defund the police, not because we
Speaker 1: don't want police around. It is because we know if
Speaker 1: we can take some of those millions and billions of
Speaker 1: dollars that we have annually allocated for police services that
Speaker 1: we if we could put those in the social services
Speaker 1: we don't need, we don't have as many calls to
Speaker 1: the police so I understand that one thousand percent. And
Speaker 1: I totally respect the people that are on the ground
Speaker 1: doing the work. For real, I work with them daily.
Speaker 1: You know, I respect that. I totally respect that. I'm
Speaker 1: I guess what I really want to say is that
Speaker 1: I don't I think that we're not doing enough right
Speaker 1: and I think and the reason why I feel that way,
Speaker 1: it's because I do know killers in the neighborhood that
Speaker 1: go to prison come home after killing somebody in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood and they have a barbecue for him at the park.
Speaker 1: I ain't know for a fact, but you also know
Speaker 1: there's groups like yourself that people to go to prison
Speaker 1: and come home and they get a job and they
Speaker 1: do the right thing too. I got that. But we
Speaker 1: understand there's always gonna be yan Yang never, there's always
Speaker 1: gonna be kine and enabled. There's never gonna be perfective. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I just had somebody on the show the last week
Speaker 1: about talking about the same thing with with with Like
Speaker 1: I said, I guess I poorly articulated what I really
Speaker 1: what I wanted to say, but I wanted to make
Speaker 1: it clear. I do want to make it clear number one,
Speaker 1: that I do support and I do respect the people
Speaker 1: that are on the ground doing the work. I respect
Speaker 1: the youngsters out there that are trying that. No, I'm
Speaker 1: in a situation. I'm doing what I think I need
Speaker 1: to be doing. But you know, I understand the risk
Speaker 1: and it could happen. If it happens, I want grace.
Speaker 1: I get all of that, you know, I get all
Speaker 1: of that. But I am still always number one responsibility,
Speaker 1: self accountability, because if without that, I couldn't have gotten
Speaker 1: to where I was. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: had to hold myself account I never I never believed
Speaker 1: in the excuse shirt. And and I put my community
Speaker 1: record up against anybody's community record, and I guarantee, and
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for thirty two, thirty two years,
Speaker 1: thirty three years. I've been doing it for thirty three years.
Speaker 1: Ever since, ever since I realized that my name had
Speaker 1: a little weight behind it. You know, I could use
Speaker 1: my influence to go out and speak to the kids,
Speaker 1: go to the prison and share my experiences with with
Speaker 1: with inmates, you know, go to the university, speaking at
Speaker 1: law schools, all this type of ship. I've been doing
Speaker 1: this ship for thirty two years. You can do without
Speaker 1: having no way behind. Yea. We just released six podcast
Speaker 1: series that are going to five thousand plus incarcerated and
Speaker 1: I don't have no weight like y'all do. So I
Speaker 1: challenged females, but I'm saying the point is you can
Speaker 1: do this without having that opportunity, because because you know,
Speaker 1: people use that as an excuse to why I would
Speaker 1: do it. I don't have a platform. I don't this nigga.
Speaker 1: Niggas they got platforms, always didn't have platforms. You had
Speaker 1: to put in some work to get the platform. So
Speaker 1: we want to challenge people to that, even them themselves,
Speaker 1: you know, can do something to better somebody. And if
Speaker 1: we focus more on what we can do as individuals
Speaker 1: opposed that this, we we're the only group when you
Speaker 1: look at other communities, they go and take over our communities.
Speaker 1: I don't want to name certain groups because you know
Speaker 1: it's unnecessary, but we all know who we're talking about.
Speaker 1: If there are certain groups that come in our community
Speaker 1: and have nail shops and have um uh beauty supplies
Speaker 1: and have convenience stores, do you realize they build them
Speaker 1: back to back to back. We're the only ones that
Speaker 1: and that's why that we conversation is to me because
Speaker 1: sometimes can be very dangerous because we're the only ones
Speaker 1: that say. If you and I both said we're gonna
Speaker 1: start a beauty supply and I start wanting you start one,
Speaker 1: the conversation be like, oh man, look really hate untism.
Speaker 1: She's started one. Why we can't come together, Nick can
Speaker 1: never come together. We should come together, have ow beauty supply. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they give beauty supply to beat the supply to beautiful.
Speaker 1: They monopolize the ship. We're the only ones that spent
Speaker 1: all this time on we Yes, we want to be unified,
Speaker 1: but we don't have to be uniformed. Everybody does something different. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they monopolize and control at all. When you play the
Speaker 1: game of monopoly, Monopoly is about taking block by block,
Speaker 1: and each time you get that little square, building more
Speaker 1: upon that square, and when you don't have enough room,
Speaker 1: you go get the next one. We're the only one
Speaker 1: if you imagine a Monopoly game, say no, no, no,
Speaker 1: let's all just go on this square. Let's all together.
Speaker 1: We're strongly together. Think about that. No other community does that.
Speaker 1: Jewish community, Asian community, White community, Asian Pacific islanders. None
Speaker 1: of them say let's just own one, seven eleven. Let's
Speaker 1: just own one beauty supply. They all compete with each other,
Speaker 1: and it's a healthy competition. There used to be a
Speaker 1: time and y'all know, y'all have ladies. I'm sure where
Speaker 1: you would just go to the nail shop and get
Speaker 1: your nails done. Now you go, you get wine. Some
Speaker 1: do wine, some do to place I go. They have
Speaker 1: a full bar, bars, martinis, whatever. Each one they stepped
Speaker 1: the game and say, you know what, if they're offering wine,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna offering Martinez. If they offered Martinez, I'm an
Speaker 1: offer Crown and code, each one of them stepping up,
Speaker 1: and they all on the same block. And meanwhile they
Speaker 1: monopolize and get all the economy. When we fight with
Speaker 1: each other and say let's unify, let's get the same,
Speaker 1: let's be the same. No, that ain't it. Let's separate
Speaker 1: some of this ship. Let's all be on cold, but
Speaker 1: let's monopolize all this ship. We need Republicans, we need independence,
Speaker 1: we need democrats. We need some of y'all to feel
Speaker 1: out polls like your Republican, I tip it all time.
Speaker 1: Start feeling out the polls with the truth. Feel it
Speaker 1: out as if you're a Republican because what the poll does.
Speaker 1: Nobody follows you into that poll, into that booth to
Speaker 1: see who you really vote for. Feel out the poll
Speaker 1: like you're Republican because you know what that does. It
Speaker 1: brings resources to the community. When Face was talking about
Speaker 1: Republicans don't even come after us, you know why they
Speaker 1: don't because the polls don't show we're there. If everybody
Speaker 1: start feeling out polls like a conservative, then they're gonna say, damn,
Speaker 1: I got some voters over here, let me put some
Speaker 1: money over here, let me get some get out to vote,
Speaker 1: let me pay for some of the advertisement. So their
Speaker 1: strategy behind this that we're just not aware of because
Speaker 1: nobody's teaching us the game. Well, you said you don't
Speaker 1: like the word we. What you keep saying we're the
Speaker 1: only ones? Well that's true, I know, like, well that's well,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's kind of factual. Though when you
Speaker 1: and I and you're correct, with the majority of us,
Speaker 1: we do talk about black unity a lot, we do
Speaker 1: black power. These are these are facts we spend a
Speaker 1: lot of time trying to get us all to agree.
Speaker 1: Opposed to you run push your line. I'm gonna push
Speaker 1: mine and we meet somewhere in as long as we're
Speaker 1: moving towards the progress of black people, and we don't
Speaker 1: do enough of that. We don't do enough of that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people in this space that can't
Speaker 1: stand the people I work with, and that's fine. Like
Speaker 1: don't funk with the people I work with at all,
Speaker 1: But that don't mean that those people are not necessary.
Speaker 1: I used to read for an examp treating the sheet
Speaker 1: the harm try. He don't like being crumped at all. Damn,
Speaker 1: you know, and I and he know our work. Why
Speaker 1: why do you have to speaking himself? But he talks
Speaker 1: about him quite a bit, you know. And he doesn't
Speaker 1: like the way he moved. But Ben as a great
Speaker 1: brother to me. I think people are necessary to do
Speaker 1: what they do, whether you always agree with or not,
Speaker 1: a lot of what to reduct. A lot of people
Speaker 1: criticize me for liking his posts or commenting with him,
Speaker 1: or whatever it could be. I don't like the way
Speaker 1: Willie d he's a conservative whatever. People don't like being.
Speaker 1: People may not like to make a mallard. People don't
Speaker 1: like Charlemagne. Hey listen, I funk with people that are
Speaker 1: trying to move black people forward, even if it's not
Speaker 1: the way I move. I funk with people are trying
Speaker 1: to move black people forward. And it's not that we
Speaker 1: all agree. Top bloods and crips do that. I tell
Speaker 1: people you was ever about any money. Bloods funk with
Speaker 1: Chris and Chris Blood if you sell them keys, you
Speaker 1: got to You cannot let niggas on the corner be
Speaker 1: confused about how you know what what people on a
Speaker 1: different level are doing in order to move it forward.
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of my friends to say,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why you funk with him. He's
Speaker 1: a you know, homophobe, he's an anti thist or anti that.
Speaker 1: And I tell people, listen, I moved by myself. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a gang of one, but I respect people that
Speaker 1: are that have the adacity to speak up of black people,
Speaker 1: even if it's a way that I don't necessarily do.
Speaker 1: Me and being were constantly we've done breakfast cuff several times.
Speaker 1: I tell people he's Martin, I'm Malcolm. I don't move away,
Speaker 1: he moves, but we have a mutual respect, you know,
Speaker 1: for each other, based on the fact, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to move black people forward. A lot of people
Speaker 1: may not like how being get down. But what I
Speaker 1: tell people is why you'll still a right attorney in
Speaker 1: your community. Ain't saying nothing? Well, you know why they
Speaker 1: don't say nothing because they don't want to piss off
Speaker 1: the d A. They don't want to piss off the
Speaker 1: police officer. They don't want to These families call their
Speaker 1: local attorney first. Let's get that straight. So when people
Speaker 1: say why everybody called being because your local attorney don't
Speaker 1: want to do ship, being is not always the first call.
Speaker 1: Let me put that out. I've been in the room
Speaker 1: when these family calls. They don't want to piss off.
Speaker 1: They go to dinner and lunch, and you know they
Speaker 1: still gotta move ship get you done. When I work
Speaker 1: the house off case the office of the rape thirteen
Speaker 1: black women in Oklahoma City, let's talk about that. You
Speaker 1: actually move next door to the police station for that
Speaker 1: it was that's the case that you moved next door
Speaker 1: to the police station. My grandmother lived next door to
Speaker 1: the police station. Next door literally this was the police station.
Speaker 1: This was my grandmother's house. And they were following you
Speaker 1: every time you left the hout because that was the
Speaker 1: only way out the hood. When you exit out. So
Speaker 1: if you live next door to police, says, you know
Speaker 1: police are coming in and out, you know, constantly. So
Speaker 1: the easiest access out of the hood was the direction
Speaker 1: you know, where I would drive would pull out. So
Speaker 1: when I because I lived in Dallas, so I had
Speaker 1: Florida tags at the time I moved from Orlando, so
Speaker 1: my tags with Florida, I was dropping a binds. I
Speaker 1: was pulled over several times, you know, just because they
Speaker 1: would literally tell me when I was driving a speed
Speaker 1: limit where you know, anybody to drive a speed limit
Speaker 1: or anything less than five, we we profile that it's
Speaker 1: possibly canterin dope. Like literally a police officer told me that.
Speaker 1: And that's what this police officer did, was pulled over
Speaker 1: black You're breaking the law, yes, because that was profiled
Speaker 1: as some that is trying to avoid getting pulled over
Speaker 1: with Florida tags in the bins in Oklahoma City where
Speaker 1: plenty of dope got pushed. I don't know what stories
Speaker 1: you don't hearn about Oklahoma, but plenty went on Oklahoma City.
Speaker 1: I mean that that was it in the nineties, that
Speaker 1: was all you had. Um. This is obviously wasn't the nineties,
Speaker 1: but still Um, so yeah, I live next door to
Speaker 1: the to the police station. Um that was his precinct,
Speaker 1: the Spring Lake Police Station, and so um. I reached
Speaker 1: out to the attorney that was represented women at the time,
Speaker 1: who was a white attorney, and I asked, I really
Speaker 1: would like this case to go national. I think people
Speaker 1: should be talking about this, and he said on them,
Speaker 1: we don't want it to go national at that time. Um,
Speaker 1: they certainly didn't want to put Oklahoma on the map
Speaker 1: with that Oklahoma City thunder just started popping, you know positive.
Speaker 1: Oh you medical, like, that's not something we're trying to
Speaker 1: talk about, you know, on the national level. And I
Speaker 1: reached out to being Crump and he ended up representing
Speaker 1: those women, but made the story, you know, a national story,
Speaker 1: and it's still not national like it should be, and
Speaker 1: the copy end up getting how many years two hundred years.
Speaker 1: Shout out to the prosecutor, you did your job. Now,
Speaker 1: what's said prosecutor's name? I forgot his name. That's good,
Speaker 1: as you said, I forgot his game. Shout out to
Speaker 1: a prosecutor, you did your job. Man, salute like his
Speaker 1: ass up and make sure he don't get out because
Speaker 1: a lot of times a lot of times when they
Speaker 1: get convicted, especially when they get a hard sentence. They're
Speaker 1: a hard sentence, they'll come in and and get that
Speaker 1: appeal and get the time. Not many of the women
Speaker 1: that he actually raped were not even included in the
Speaker 1: actual case. You know, we're still not represented because they
Speaker 1: were criminalized and their backgrounds were criminalized and all of
Speaker 1: you know, uh, everything that they had done. And I
Speaker 1: didn't even know when I did the speech that day, Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that one of the females there was
Speaker 1: a cousin of mine. UM And I turned around to
Speaker 1: her and I said, you didn't know me, but I
Speaker 1: knew you. I've been ridding for you all Alonge. And
Speaker 1: my aunt was actually watching um the press conference in
Speaker 1: the beauty supply at the time, and she said, you
Speaker 1: didn't know that was such and such his daughter And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say named, you know, competitionality, But so you
Speaker 1: didn't know that was your cousin. I said, no, I
Speaker 1: hadn't seen her since she was a baby. And so
Speaker 1: that's when we talk about the six degrees of separation.
Speaker 1: You know, what it really means to represent your community.
Speaker 1: My mother that day that I did that press conference,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to speak, and being kept saying you
Speaker 1: need to say something, to say something, I wasn't move
Speaker 1: with my mother just found out that her cancer has spread.
Speaker 1: We had just left him on and um one of
Speaker 1: my friends that ran for office at the time, Mike Shelton,
Speaker 1: he wasn't speaking up on this case loud enough for me,
Speaker 1: and so he would put his signs in my yard.
Speaker 1: And this is where we talk about accountability, Like I'm
Speaker 1: about let's hold some of this power accountable. I hear
Speaker 1: what you're saying, let's hold the streets accountable. But my
Speaker 1: role and pushing this fucking line is this power. So
Speaker 1: when my friend Mike Sheldon, great dear friend of mine,
Speaker 1: he kept putting this yard yard sign for state Rep.
Speaker 1: And I told him every day that you don't say
Speaker 1: nothing about this case, I'm gonna throw away your the
Speaker 1: yard sign every goddamn day, because until you say something
Speaker 1: about this there is no yard sign. And I would
Speaker 1: throw it out and throw it out, and eventually, you know,
Speaker 1: he did get more vocal about it. And UM, my
Speaker 1: mom knew how important that case was to me. And
Speaker 1: so that day when I just happened to be in
Speaker 1: town and she was like, I know how much this
Speaker 1: meant to you. She was literally pulling out the port
Speaker 1: in her and she was like, this is let's harry
Speaker 1: up and get you down to the press kind of
Speaker 1: My mom is cool, finished, you don't getting your keyma
Speaker 1: on whatever. She's like, no, no, no, we gotta get
Speaker 1: you downtown. And so she dropped me off, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't in the mood to speak, and being kept saying
Speaker 1: test say something. I was like, no, I'm cool, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say anything. Um. But eventually nobody
Speaker 1: was saying what needed to be said in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go off on the media for
Speaker 1: not because my mom macsually was the news director of
Speaker 1: secretary growing up in that town, you know, for the
Speaker 1: news station. And I was embarrassed that they didn't say
Speaker 1: anything and do anything and not put it on the map.
Speaker 1: And so I went off on the news that day.
Speaker 1: And an organization called Black Women's Blueprint in Brooklyn heard
Speaker 1: my speech that day and they said, finally somebody said
Speaker 1: what we've been waiting to say. And they drove all
Speaker 1: the way from Brooklyn to Oklahoma City to ride out
Speaker 1: with that case. And that's what I mean when I
Speaker 1: say we are doing something, we are using our voice
Speaker 1: and if we can share those stories on how those
Speaker 1: things make a difference. They don't have ship to do
Speaker 1: with no platform. Nobody knew who the funk I was. Nobody.
Speaker 1: I just simply got on this small microphone. And that's
Speaker 1: the same way. You've had opportunities. And you've had opportunity,
Speaker 1: what do you say when you get in the booth?
Speaker 1: And politics to me is the booth. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: these uh photos that you post on Instagram from time
Speaker 1: to time. These photos seemed to uh they conjure uh
Speaker 1: various type of conversations and what's going on with the
Speaker 1: photos when you post? You post these provocative photos? You
Speaker 1: know when I say provocative, men, they provoked people, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, vote people to make statements of
Speaker 1: uh sometimes when most times they go girl and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, and who you're dating. I'd be a man
Speaker 1: and I do this for you and you get a
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff in you dam probably not as
Speaker 1: much as I should. Yeah, yeah, I think the world
Speaker 1: community uh is different. This is very different. You know,
Speaker 1: men I think are afraid to Social media has really
Speaker 1: created a bearer a barrier for men. I think, um,
Speaker 1: the socials. I don't know what it is, but it's
Speaker 1: men don't know how to approach. They think I'm assist
Speaker 1: soldier type like greetings Queen and all of that, and
Speaker 1: then they think that I'm a part of this. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say the spies, but I think it's
Speaker 1: like I think, I think you're I think I think
Speaker 1: it's lazy. It's a lazy what's happenings happening? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: so it's Queen is becoming that, you know, it's becoming.
Speaker 1: Men think because I'm in this space that and a
Speaker 1: lot of women in this space so are similar. You know.
Speaker 1: I got a fiction book called Kitties Letter, so it's
Speaker 1: it involves kitties Letter and it involves sex and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I think men think, if
Speaker 1: you're in this space, you're I don't want to say
Speaker 1: sister soldier, but I'm just using as and everybody thinks
Speaker 1: that everybody women are extra woke like that, you know,
Speaker 1: Queen beloved whatever, Listen, I'm who whisper what's happening? You know?
Speaker 1: How you doing? What's like? Talk to me like you
Speaker 1: would anybody else. I'm not My personality is not a
Speaker 1: shout out to Charlotte Magne, who gave you the name
Speaker 1: you the name rights hood Whisperer, you know. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I did want to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: the Black Effect podcast, which you know made us label
Speaker 1: mates podcast labelmates. Basically it's what we are. Uh in
Speaker 1: your your your your podcast? Straight shot, no chasing with Teslin.
Speaker 1: Figure figure out figure? Um? You know is it for
Speaker 1: do you pronounce your name figure or not? Figart? Oh? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: super girl, don't bother me. I don't give a ship
Speaker 1: of it. I mean that I think I get I
Speaker 1: get confused because sometimes I hear people calling you figure out.
Speaker 1: I'm not called up on that answer to worse? Yeah okay,
Speaker 1: So figure is how it's really pronounced Louisiana. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so figure out. So in in doing that podcast, how
Speaker 1: liberating is that for you? Um? It gives me an opportunity. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've been the same, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I literally I can go all the way
Speaker 1: back from second grade when I got my first bloody nose,
Speaker 1: the fourth grade to the fifth grade when I got suspended.
Speaker 1: In the sixth grade, I've always been the one to
Speaker 1: raise my hand and say, you know what, this ain't
Speaker 1: really well, it's the teacher. I've always been the bullies bully.
Speaker 1: This is truly who I am talking about. The body
Speaker 1: knows how I got a bloody knows because I was
Speaker 1: standing up for Shante Roland. She was a twin, Shante
Speaker 1: and Shmita Rowland, and one was smit which she should
Speaker 1: have been standing there for. And it was literally like
Speaker 1: in the second third grade. One was really skinny and
Speaker 1: being sucked his thumb and um, he would talk about
Speaker 1: how skinny she was every day, And I decided to
Speaker 1: talk about being sucking his thumb being decided to give
Speaker 1: me a bloody nose. So like that's always been stop
Speaker 1: fighting when you know you gotta stop fighting. You know
Speaker 1: you get a bloody know, you keep it moving. I
Speaker 1: remember everybody got off the bus and ran on. You know,
Speaker 1: that's like what it is. I've always like, literally, I
Speaker 1: can talk about fifth grade and Kelly wrote Kelly Reynolds,
Speaker 1: my little white girlfriend who was getting bullied. You know,
Speaker 1: I can talk about sixth grade. I got to spending
Speaker 1: the sixth grade. I thought, Miss Harris, Samos Harris. It
Speaker 1: was a teacher. Somebody gonna slapshot at you, miss because
Speaker 1: you keep on snatching papers. And I got suspending for
Speaker 1: that for five days. Somebody slap ship because she kept
Speaker 1: on snatching papers. And I told me one day, somebody
Speaker 1: gonna slap like I've always been that. I've gotten a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble that day. But I've always been the
Speaker 1: one that raised my hand and said, we ain't really
Speaker 1: with this, even when I was, yeah, even when you know,
Speaker 1: it's commendable that she would stand up for people who
Speaker 1: couldn't stand up for themselves because I was a bully
Speaker 1: all the way to like, I know, he got something
Speaker 1: to say, but I was a bully all the way
Speaker 1: to like eighth grade, right, and then something clicked come on,
Speaker 1: and I started, like I started like bullying the bullies
Speaker 1: like people would like people. People would befriend me so
Speaker 1: that the bullies would stop bullying them. They would come
Speaker 1: to me and befriend me so that nobody would mess
Speaker 1: with it. But I just got to that point to
Speaker 1: where like I just and I think that's why I'm
Speaker 1: so hard on this system, because I know it's it's
Speaker 1: full of bullies, That's exactly it. And that's why you
Speaker 1: do it with such ease, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's I bully the bullies. And it wasn't because I
Speaker 1: was the tough or you know, could beat everybody up.
Speaker 1: I had courage. It's all about courage. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day. You get a paid you get a faith.
Speaker 1: But you know what, something I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was necessarily courage for me. I think
Speaker 1: it for me it was fear. It's fear of not
Speaker 1: living in peace, fear of being left, you know, of
Speaker 1: fear of someone having control over me. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the fear of like when I was like growing up,
Speaker 1: I'm probably was more like about one forty pounds, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was like nine grade or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I was routinely whipping two hundred pounds dudes, and
Speaker 1: everybody thought I was like, man, man, man, man, will
Speaker 1: it get you? But he ain't scared of nobody, and
Speaker 1: they don't didn't understand. I was afraid. I was afraid
Speaker 1: of losing and and fighting big guys. Always was always
Speaker 1: fear somebody being I always feared somebody being in on
Speaker 1: top of me, getting on top of me. It's getting
Speaker 1: the best of me, so I didn't want to lose
Speaker 1: the fight. Also, when I'm from the fifth ward, if
Speaker 1: you lose a fight, they're never gonna let you leave
Speaker 1: it down. Like it could be five years later and say, man,
Speaker 1: let me buy a dollar. I ain't got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why Robert whoop your ass. And that's how I see.
Speaker 1: Like if I don't stand up and you know, you men,
Speaker 1: you'd be going in and the people just leave alone.
Speaker 1: But that's my point, Like when I tell I don't
Speaker 1: clap back of everybody, but every now and then, y'all
Speaker 1: got to know who you're working with, Like that's important.
Speaker 1: I don't I understand respectfully what you're saying with fear,
Speaker 1: but me, it's it's not it's letting you know you
Speaker 1: can't do me. Like like a lot of my colleagues,
Speaker 1: they make these videos over and do this ship own
Speaker 1: and on and on and on and on, and hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come see me, like you can't
Speaker 1: just handle me any kind of way. Now, I probably
Speaker 1: don't do the things that they you know, they maybe
Speaker 1: don't have a reason to make a video about me.
Speaker 1: But what I do know is you're not gonna handle
Speaker 1: me any kind of like these they gotta know, like,
Speaker 1: don't play me like you doing everybody else. I think
Speaker 1: that just comes with our different backgrounds. Don't play with you.
Speaker 1: There is a certain level of respect you know that
Speaker 1: you have to have. I call it courage, you call
Speaker 1: a fear, call whatever you want to, but it's it's
Speaker 1: how I've always been. So I've never had an issue
Speaker 1: of being liberated. I've always been free. I don't have
Speaker 1: the desire for a lot of things that people do.
Speaker 1: The money are the fame, that's great. If if it happens,
Speaker 1: if I wanted, like I said, I would have pushed
Speaker 1: the music stuff. I would have pushed the rap thing.
Speaker 1: I would have whatever back of day was fine as hell.
Speaker 1: So being fine with me and you always gonna be straight,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. That's like I
Speaker 1: didn't depend on that, but having a man, a provider,
Speaker 1: or having somebody around the that was. I've always been
Speaker 1: a hustle. I've been working since I was thirteen. I
Speaker 1: don't have a desire even now for material things. I'm
Speaker 1: not motivated at all. I just want to take care
Speaker 1: of myself, take care of my family. So because of that,
Speaker 1: I don't the things that people have a fear of losing.
Speaker 1: I don't. I know where I'm going when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done. I know it's the goats are gonna
Speaker 1: be divided up with the the sheeps are about the
Speaker 1: shepherd's business. I'm totally comfortable like with who I am
Speaker 1: as a person. So the podcast opportunity, to me is
Speaker 1: just another opportunity to get on the microphone. But I'll
Speaker 1: tell you if I talked about sex all day long,
Speaker 1: I will get ten times the amount of people that
Speaker 1: listen in. And you can talk about sex, i'd you
Speaker 1: talking about six I love talking about sex. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: love it. What's a that's a fair amount of times
Speaker 1: a days? I guess If I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 1: then let's have that discussion. Because your age. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think you necessarily have to be it once a
Speaker 1: day or a couple of times a week, you know
Speaker 1: type person. Um, But I think sexual chemistry is important,
Speaker 1: is the most important thing to me. Um. I was
Speaker 1: married thirteen years after that. I had a board from
Speaker 1: like ten plus you. I never not had a man straight,
Speaker 1: one child and I had right, let's make sure to
Speaker 1: do it any we got a lot to do with
Speaker 1: C section. Yeah, hand the pain. No, I can handle
Speaker 1: the pain. I welcome to pain. It means that. But
Speaker 1: c section you got something to do with it. Because
Speaker 1: when I started talking about being well and down, me
Speaker 1: and A say always and you must be stretched out,
Speaker 1: you must be this, I don't feel no walls and
Speaker 1: that type of ship. So I like to make the
Speaker 1: point that I'm had a C section with one child
Speaker 1: means that what I ke it's gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what the men who don't have
Speaker 1: nothing saying, I know that it goes absolutely like put
Speaker 1: that on your license, like straight up, let's get it
Speaker 1: straight up. And there's nothing wrong with average trying to
Speaker 1: make hate. We will seeing some of this last week.
Speaker 1: He's anti welling down men, And it's nothing wrong with
Speaker 1: being average at best, it's nothing wrong with it. I
Speaker 1: just think it's not anti average. It's sell up braiding
Speaker 1: those who surpass the average in our community. Should we
Speaker 1: not those who are smarter master exceptionally well, exceptionally well,
Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, exceptionally. Yeah. So that's
Speaker 1: my favorite conversation I have. Well, you know what and
Speaker 1: where does it make you uncomfortable sex? Yeah, I'm the games. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're talking about six minutes. Don't you want somebody to
Speaker 1: match your freaky though? Yeah, you got some ship going
Speaker 1: on with you and show me something you want somebody
Speaker 1: to match that? I think that's what keeps your house quiet. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you're a freaky motherfucking and you you want your spouse
Speaker 1: is a freaky motherfucking y'all do it like absolutely and exceeded,
Speaker 1: like she walked by and she walked by you when
Speaker 1: y'all in a fucking a restaurant or a lounge or something,
Speaker 1: she put out panties in your hand and match my
Speaker 1: That ain't ship. I thought, you go go. I thought,
Speaker 1: if you freaky type ship man freaky, absolutely don't match
Speaker 1: that ship. You're absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, How far it's too
Speaker 1: far on the freaky side. I don't think it's such
Speaker 1: thing as too far. It has to depend on your
Speaker 1: you know, your significant other. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to be shipped. Probably I'm not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you as everything should least be considered some people like animals. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that might be too that's that's too far.
Speaker 1: You gotta say what it is you gotta say. I
Speaker 1: asked how far it's too far because some people like,
Speaker 1: because you know somebody, some guy might be listening to
Speaker 1: this and ship and then might meet you and you
Speaker 1: don't even know he's in mind politics of hook up
Speaker 1: up and then you'd be like, what the hell is that?
Speaker 1: Go doing hell again. My book on Amazon Kitties Litter,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about like when all the ship happened, when
Speaker 1: Andrew give him all that. That's like every day that
Speaker 1: people on politics are the freaky is ever just like
Speaker 1: you think, you know rappers and entertainers, that creative energy,
Speaker 1: you know, what makes a person creative, whether they're a
Speaker 1: politician or pastor are pimp. Going back to what I
Speaker 1: said earlier, the nastiest people that you could ever imagine,
Speaker 1: nasty as hell. Three sons get down or gs. They
Speaker 1: do it all. They do it all. What's uh? What's
Speaker 1: a no no for you? Hair pulling? Choking? Uh? What
Speaker 1: if a dude like grab you by the nick and
Speaker 1: d D T nick and just black slam? Yet? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of women who y'all think quote
Speaker 1: unquote strong women. And I tell this to guys, you
Speaker 1: know when we when I'm having I call a straight
Speaker 1: shot no chase after dark. Women like myself enjoy see
Speaker 1: we don't have problems. I think the misconception I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna speak for everybody, but I'll speak for myself. The
Speaker 1: misconception is because UM have a on personality and I'm
Speaker 1: in charge on the outside, that women like myself cannot
Speaker 1: be submissive on the inside. And that's totally not the case.
Speaker 1: There's something called the alpha submissive. When a woman really
Speaker 1: run her ship outside the household, she's looking to be
Speaker 1: dominated inside the household. If ye know, I'm telling that's
Speaker 1: real because you're looking for a break. So I think
Speaker 1: the idea and why men are his I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking about me, just in general. Women in my space
Speaker 1: are hesitant to approach one. They think that we're extra,
Speaker 1: extra woke and not regular women. You know that you
Speaker 1: can just approach number two. They're intimidated because they think
Speaker 1: what they see on social media is how I am
Speaker 1: at home. They don't understand it. It's the total opposite.
Speaker 1: You look to be submissive, you look to nurture, you
Speaker 1: look to cater because you run ship. Bosses that run
Speaker 1: ship don't need other jobs, you want to take time off.
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to you telling me what to
Speaker 1: do and how to do and where to go. And
Speaker 1: because if you're assuring yourself, you know you're not gonna
Speaker 1: allow you know, somebody leads you to slaughter. It's the
Speaker 1: women who don't run ship outside the house that feel
Speaker 1: like they gotta run a man. And that is probably
Speaker 1: one of the big biggest misconceptions with the alpha submissive.
Speaker 1: There is such thing called alpha submiths or you're an
Speaker 1: alpha woman. Yeah, but I'm submissive. It's a difference, and
Speaker 1: I think men are hesitant with that with women in
Speaker 1: my space. They think we gotta run everything, and that's
Speaker 1: not the case at all. I don't talk about politics
Speaker 1: when I first of all, I've always will. Let mean
Speaker 1: I put I'm legally single. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: I think you're either married are your single um. But
Speaker 1: you look for men or at least me. All the
Speaker 1: men updated have been what they would call probably toxic
Speaker 1: or too masculine or to whatever, because you that energy
Speaker 1: balances um a person. I like myself very well because
Speaker 1: you've probably gotta bait. They've never been a week a
Speaker 1: weak man in my life. It doesn't even match up. Um,
Speaker 1: and that that's a big misconception. So we want the
Speaker 1: aggression in the household and particularly in the bedroom. So
Speaker 1: all of those things that you talk about, is it
Speaker 1: too far? There is no too far when it comes
Speaker 1: to me, the pleasing and it is ladies and gentlemen. Look,
Speaker 1: look where can people find you? How can you get
Speaker 1: just getting good in the sex conversation? You know we're
Speaker 1: gonna double back too. I'm gonna come on your show
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about sex. Yeah, like I really
Speaker 1: want to talk. I want to talk before we leave
Speaker 1: me and your age. Um the answers, Yes, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you want to do? Yes, this one a rectil,
Speaker 1: this fun. Yes, we talked about that. Are y'all ashamed
Speaker 1: to use the pill? You're not ashamed? Okay, because nothing's wrong.
Speaker 1: Are you ashamed? I would not be ashamed to use
Speaker 1: anything that could give me an edge. Yeah, like, there's
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. I like to win. Is there
Speaker 1: a certain amount of shame you think? Though? Honestly? I
Speaker 1: like because taking pills like you give an extra turball,
Speaker 1: like you give an extra No. I like to win period.
Speaker 1: If I'm playing basketball in in the hood and we're
Speaker 1: doing a three on three. I'm picking the best players
Speaker 1: out there. I don't care if you tell me I
Speaker 1: got the advantage. I want the advantage. If I catch
Speaker 1: you in the club and you're talking reckless to me
Speaker 1: and you're drunk, I'm gonna beat the brakes off your
Speaker 1: ass while you're dropped, because I want the advantage. I
Speaker 1: always want the advantage. Wrong. I believe in winning. I
Speaker 1: believe in satisfying my woman by any means that's good. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad he I just want to put that on
Speaker 1: the record because I think a lot of y'all think
Speaker 1: that women look down on that, and that's not it
Speaker 1: at all. Like do whatever you feel like you have
Speaker 1: to do. Your testoster goes down at a certain name.
Speaker 1: I don't think a woman really cares about what you
Speaker 1: need to get there. We don't get hurt. You advocate
Speaker 1: for that. When you want to talk about accountability and all,
Speaker 1: can you start talking about that ship, like about getting
Speaker 1: into that. I need I need to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to get a check with that, because that's a
Speaker 1: big business. That's if you can make a man feel
Speaker 1: like a man util it out of you, that's remember
Speaker 1: black and was like, oh, we gotta something that you know,
Speaker 1: they drop different sponsors. Interesting. They asked what I do
Speaker 1: want for e D And I was like, I'll be
Speaker 1: like a sponsor, like the spokes person kidney failure. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm a I'm a hard advocate for erection, erectile
Speaker 1: dysfunctional fucking man's because they got some cool shit out here. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear y'all say that. I would
Speaker 1: appreciate if you talk about that from every now and then,
Speaker 1: because they need to hear that it's okay because some
Speaker 1: men really just don't know's going there with a limpis
Speaker 1: gitting try and just like yeah, and then are trying
Speaker 1: to make it seem like oh as you yeah, we
Speaker 1: are it must I think that it's totally I think
Speaker 1: for a man underperformed during sex is a waste of
Speaker 1: a woman's time. And I don't think you deserve if
Speaker 1: you underperformed every single time, every time, you ain't never
Speaker 1: sucked up. I don't suck up. I'm cold bloody, I'm
Speaker 1: cold out. I'm cold with it for real. And and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say and I'm and I'm gonna say this
Speaker 1: when you made that statement about like the word on
Speaker 1: the streets or whatever, I really had to actually dialed
Speaker 1: it back. I actually dialed it back because I thought
Speaker 1: about it. I said, I really don't funk with chicks
Speaker 1: to talk about business. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: don't really sunk with chickens running mouth like that. However,
Speaker 1: somebody could could again whatever, But but I'm but I'm
Speaker 1: saying that what I'm saying is that what I'm saying
Speaker 1: is that what I'm saying is that if somebody was
Speaker 1: talking my business, I know for a fact I'm blue ribbon.
Speaker 1: That's guaranteed. You'll be saying I ain't never had no complaint.
Speaker 1: Y'all realize women don't complain, y'all. Y'all realized that, don't you. Well,
Speaker 1: the women I encourage any woman that I'm with you
Speaker 1: that I'm sure that that that that that I don't want, well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's possible or whatever. But women, most women
Speaker 1: are not gonna say I'm sure that's possible. But if
Speaker 1: but if she's driving down the street and she's she's
Speaker 1: on that plane and she just called me and I
Speaker 1: ain't called him, that she's come out of blue and said, baby,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do it like that and smoke
Speaker 1: and then hang up and getting called right back. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, baby, yeah, the problem I think about it
Speaker 1: like I have a girlfriend. She was like, oh, he
Speaker 1: always called. I'm like, sometimes you just convinced. It don't
Speaker 1: mean you that that you're really good. It just means yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you'll do cool. You ain't all that. And
Speaker 1: women sometimes think, as you called her back that second
Speaker 1: or third time, oh it must be good. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: not necessarily, mama, you just might just speak of if
Speaker 1: it's not good, I don't waste my time. But I'm saying,
Speaker 1: decent let's talk about the world. Say I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't funk with decent. She it's got to be worth
Speaker 1: my time. I'm a busy man. Well, I want to
Speaker 1: make sure women understand that that's you. Some some men
Speaker 1: will just deal with you. Was that true? We just
Speaker 1: deal with you out of convenience? Might be all right,
Speaker 1: it's got to be worth it's got to be worth
Speaker 1: my time. When I when I when I was younger,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But now it's like, it's
Speaker 1: got to be worth my time. I got ship to
Speaker 1: do for real and I'll work my time. Thank you
Speaker 1: for coming And how can people reach out? Tesla? That's
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