Speaker 1: Got bunkey fights, get him, gotta get him, gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta gotta go. He's too strong, he been, he been
Speaker 1: his caving bogus too all my life and running all
Speaker 1: my life, sacri fice, hustle back price, Want a slice?
Speaker 1: Got the broll dice to swap all my life? I've
Speaker 1: been grinding all my life, all my life, been running
Speaker 1: all my life, sacrifice, hustle back price and want a slice,
Speaker 1: Got the broll dice to swap all my life? I've
Speaker 1: been grinding in all my life. Hello, welcome to another
Speaker 1: edition of the Club Sha Shape. I am your whole
Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor Club Sha Shape, and
Speaker 1: the guy that's stopping by for a drinking conversation today
Speaker 1: is an entrepreneur, media mogul, record a record executive, a legend,
Speaker 1: the ultimate hustler. Damn day, damn. How you doing, broum good?
Speaker 1: How you doing? You're doing better than good? Yeah? Explain
Speaker 1: to get off. Well, you know, I designed all my clothes. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I designed this shirt, and I designed these shorts,
Speaker 1: and I designed these socks. Right, so I decided to
Speaker 1: wear it. So are you like? Okay? So do you
Speaker 1: only wear your gear or do you wear other mostly mine?
Speaker 1: You know, when I was younger and I was running
Speaker 1: around in the fashion world, you know, I'm cocky and
Speaker 1: I'm arrogant, and I ran into like Ralph Ferrin, and
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm cooler than him, and he's
Speaker 1: just kind of grinned at me, and I walked off
Speaker 1: and I realized I had a purple labeled shut on.
Speaker 1: It devastated me. So I was like, I could never
Speaker 1: I just feel funny wearing another man's clothing and then
Speaker 1: I meet him, right, I just don't know. I just
Speaker 1: feel like, also, I could always do things better creatively.
Speaker 1: I like to do everything myself. I feel like good
Speaker 1: taste transcends, you know, everything, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: like to do everything my self. So that's why I
Speaker 1: like to have my own. And then also I like
Speaker 1: to monetize the things that I love to do for free. Right,
Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna get fresh, you know, I love it,
Speaker 1: I might as well make the clothes. And ultimately it
Speaker 1: costs less to make your own rather than to pay
Speaker 1: for somebody else's. It just takes a little more time,
Speaker 1: but I like the process, right, yeah, right, So I
Speaker 1: designed everything down to my journey except for the classics.
Speaker 1: So before we go any further, you know, I'm an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I just started in the connact business. I got this
Speaker 1: was called La Portiers, a bsop named after my grandmother,
Speaker 1: and I wanted your one entrepreneur to another appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the business is a rough business. It is, Pip,
Speaker 1: what you think? Can you do the Dame dash with that?
Speaker 1: Can you? You know you got the dance with the
Speaker 1: two bottles? You know? Then girls have to be here.
Speaker 1: A damn, You're never doing the Dame Dass dance without women,
Speaker 1: and I don't think possible. Let me do all that.
Speaker 1: Now come over to my name, Yes, you can do that,
Speaker 1: fine soul. So how have you been? What's new with you? Everything? Man,
Speaker 1: all my dreams are coming true. You know. I want
Speaker 1: to go down in history, not as like an actor
Speaker 1: or you know, an entertainer, not even an entrepreneur. I
Speaker 1: want to go down in history as an industry conqueror. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I don't think the way industries are shut
Speaker 1: up right now? Behoove us as a culture and they
Speaker 1: all need to be changed. So when I went into
Speaker 1: the music business, I shook that shut up, and I
Speaker 1: benched the people from the other culture that I didn't
Speaker 1: think we're treating us fairly like a Lee or Cohen.
Speaker 1: I like to call them out by name, which a
Speaker 1: lot of us don't do. And did the same thing
Speaker 1: in the movie business. You know. I don't like to
Speaker 1: get at homeboy Weinstein, but I was getting after him
Speaker 1: way before we went through what he went through, and
Speaker 1: everybody thought I was crazy when I made paid him full,
Speaker 1: which I'm about to make part two, and fashion same thing, Rockwear,
Speaker 1: Rachel Roy stay property, you know. But the industry and
Speaker 1: television right now, I have this partnership with Fox Soul,
Speaker 1: and I have my own studios and make my own movies.
Speaker 1: I distribute other people's movies. I'm a director. But the
Speaker 1: industry that I really haven't shook up. And I've been
Speaker 1: really aggravated about his sports. I think it's the most
Speaker 1: flagrant example of racism and the programming of us looking
Speaker 1: like we're not equal, and us hurting each other and
Speaker 1: still looking and regarding each other as number two, especially
Speaker 1: the NFL. So you know, I look at things on
Speaker 1: a therapeutic and also a psychological level, because that's the
Speaker 1: way muscle is controlled. So if you're a professional football player,
Speaker 1: which you have been your owner, I don't even like
Speaker 1: that name. Your owner is the person that's your lifeline,
Speaker 1: that's who pays you, that's who you have to be
Speaker 1: nice to all the time, no matter what, no matter
Speaker 1: how good you are. And every owner is white. Every
Speaker 1: owner is white. And I've personally tried to buy teams
Speaker 1: with people from the NFL and you have to get
Speaker 1: voted in and all this, and it's ridiculous that every
Speaker 1: black well number one in the NFL. If everyone black quit,
Speaker 1: there is no NFL. True, But at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, they all have to look up to a
Speaker 1: white man owner and that must be traumatizing and I
Speaker 1: don't like it. So I'm not mad about how people
Speaker 1: set their own house up. I just build my own.
Speaker 1: So what you do understand how hard it is to
Speaker 1: get into that because they only have thirty two teams,
Speaker 1: listen franchises that don't become available. Barrier, I just say
Speaker 1: something about me. Nothing's hard for me. What's hard for
Speaker 1: me is not trying. Even if it's not successful. I'm
Speaker 1: doing it, and I'm doing it now. So my first
Speaker 1: step is an Arena Football League. We have a team,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Cyclones, will be ships airing it. And you
Speaker 1: know they'll be black owners. It doesn't mean that only
Speaker 1: black people could play, but we'll be the landlords. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start with six teams. We start immediately. You know,
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna make the announcement next next Monday
Speaker 1: in Tampa and uh, you know, we start playing. Our
Speaker 1: first game is April second, but in Alabama or Mississippi
Speaker 1: is the first game in March. And you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have an approach on this. And my thing is
Speaker 1: they'll be black head coaches. They'll be therapy, they'll be
Speaker 1: economic literacy, and they'll be teaching not like yo, how
Speaker 1: to stay here, like you know, be taught that you
Speaker 1: could be successful if you act a certain way. It'll
Speaker 1: be about making sure that the players are rich and
Speaker 1: literate on every level, in every way. And what about
Speaker 1: the players that just want to give a paycheck go home.
Speaker 1: Everybody doesn't want to be it doesn't have the business
Speaker 1: augment that you does, or don't want to be in
Speaker 1: that business model. That's why I'll do the rough stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure that when the player doesn't have
Speaker 1: a career as a football player anymore. They have a
Speaker 1: career as an entrepreneur. They'll have some real estate. And also,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the same thing in the metaverse. Or
Speaker 1: already got the I use for the MFL, the Metroros
Speaker 1: Football League, and already have the technology to ford d
Speaker 1: m up and already have the real estate in network,
Speaker 1: which is like the YouTube of the metaverse. Already have
Speaker 1: the stadium being built. I got the AI. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking in other dimensions as well. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I want to shake up the
Speaker 1: sports industry. At least I'm gonna try. Everybody looks tough
Speaker 1: for nobody's fighting them when no one presents a different alternative.
Speaker 1: But I just think things would be a little better
Speaker 1: if we were in control, if we were just the landlords.
Speaker 1: I want to be in my own owner's box. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a VIP and someone else's right.
Speaker 1: So I'll do it myself, and I'm up for the fight.
Speaker 1: I'm up for the war. You know, usually when you
Speaker 1: want to take a block, you get it. Whoever's the
Speaker 1: toughest one. I want to get it, Jerry Jones, so
Speaker 1: you know. I'd love to have a conversation with him
Speaker 1: to make me understand why there's no black owners. I
Speaker 1: want to know, Well, you do realize that you're talking
Speaker 1: about you need it own thirty percent the Bronco lifting.
Speaker 1: I don't want an NFL team. I'm making my own
Speaker 1: league for you on the own league. No, I have
Speaker 1: my own league, but doing it. But here's and look
Speaker 1: how they treat us in the HBCU. Right, Yes, they
Speaker 1: don't cover none of these players. Now that they can
Speaker 1: actually have the players can now get advertisements and no, no,
Speaker 1: no one will cover their games. Well, well that's not true.
Speaker 1: Since Dion Sanders has been down, that's the man. That's
Speaker 1: that's the word I'm hearing. I'm hearing his name a lot. Yes,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying, since one of us had
Speaker 1: to go take control of that situation. But if we
Speaker 1: don't take control, it doesn't get control. We end up
Speaker 1: just doing what's the best for them. Right. And I'm
Speaker 1: in Jackson's at Gramblin University, so you're starting to get guys,
Speaker 1: that's familiar, right. I think they're making a conscious effort.
Speaker 1: I think some of the some of the broadcast partners
Speaker 1: are starting to to highlight HBC US and show that
Speaker 1: there are guys. We have to highlight ourselves. We have
Speaker 1: to have our own television network. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: I have my own television network. We have to showcase
Speaker 1: our image. We have to visualize what it looks like
Speaker 1: when we win, not when we fit in. It's when
Speaker 1: we the bosses, and that's what it has to be
Speaker 1: seen and it's never shown. So that's what I'm going
Speaker 1: to do for sports, the same way I did it
Speaker 1: for music, the same way I did it for movies.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take us. I'm gonna take a swing on sports.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Before I didn't have the bag.
Speaker 1: I have the plan and I'm getting that. I'm doing it,
Speaker 1: and I'm also gonna bring awareness to those HBC YOU
Speaker 1: teams as well as well as whoever else is doing it.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do my part just because I haven't
Speaker 1: ever been able, you know. It's just something that's been
Speaker 1: bothering me time. Like certain teams I don't like because
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yo, they never had a black head coach,
Speaker 1: they'll never get a black I just don't like it,
Speaker 1: you know, I just have when my culture. I love
Speaker 1: the people I love. When they hurt, I hurt, right.
Speaker 1: So I'm not in that, but I'm still affected by it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be in that program and be considered
Speaker 1: distractions and watch my culture get their heads batter than
Speaker 1: they be, ending up with all its trauma and work
Speaker 1: away with nothing right. You know, I hear more stories
Speaker 1: of harvest, stories of making the NFL. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a dream and then it turns into a nightmare.
Speaker 1: This is what I hear, and I hear it just
Speaker 1: because of the psycho psychological pressure it takes just to
Speaker 1: even fit in. But of course, if you're thinking your
Speaker 1: number two, when you gotta pray to some white men
Speaker 1: they get paid, of course you're gonna be traumatized. That's
Speaker 1: the program that has to stop. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: complain about what they do. I'm a complain about what
Speaker 1: I don't do. So I'm gonna try and I'm gonna win.
Speaker 1: So if that I don't visualize the law seven? Is
Speaker 1: that the reason why you got into the spaces that
Speaker 1: you got in, You got into the music, you've got
Speaker 1: into the I played a little bit. I played football.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan Okay, I played basketball, I'm a fan.
Speaker 1: I played lacrosse. I'm a fan. And these are the
Speaker 1: things where I just don't like the narrative where the
Speaker 1: person calling the plays is never from my culture really,
Speaker 1: and when they are, it's like a big deal it.
Speaker 1: Ship should be the normal. We gotta own ship so
Speaker 1: we can make the rules. Will never ever make the
Speaker 1: rules if we don't own nothing. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to start out as big as them. I just want
Speaker 1: to own it. I just want to try it as
Speaker 1: an owner. I want to see it. But everybody makes
Speaker 1: things look so hard when they never try it. I
Speaker 1: gotta try it. Okay, you want to own, I gotta own.
Speaker 1: I can't speak in any other language. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I only talk boss. What about people that don't want
Speaker 1: to own? What about them? They don't have to, but
Speaker 1: I fight for them, and I'll make sure they don't
Speaker 1: get abused. They'll be protected by those that do. Period. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can I can rock with that. You mentioned your
Speaker 1: arena league, what you and listening that you talk. You said, well,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of seeing that people that look like me
Speaker 1: do all the heavy lifting, they do, all the legwork,
Speaker 1: they catch the ball, they throw the ball, they tackle
Speaker 1: the they're getting hit. While we look up there and
Speaker 1: the people that's looking at using the money look like us.
Speaker 1: They don't look like us. They're paying us, they're laughing
Speaker 1: at us. That's the way I look at it. So,
Speaker 1: if you had an opportunity to buy an NFL team,
Speaker 1: you don't want to buy an NFL team. You want
Speaker 1: to go a competing league. No, no, no, if they
Speaker 1: want to play nice. We've tried to buy how many
Speaker 1: black teap men have tried to buy football teams? And
Speaker 1: a white board said no, I know ray Lewis tried
Speaker 1: as a majority or as a minority. I want I
Speaker 1: want to be the boss. Okay, well, how but here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I tried to buy the Raiders. I get it,
Speaker 1: thank I get it. But how many black people have
Speaker 1: the capital to be able to put up thirty percent
Speaker 1: of an NFL team? First of all, how many people
Speaker 1: in general put up their own many in the first place. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we all have to come together and put our money together.
Speaker 1: They're gonna make it right. That's the difference between us
Speaker 1: and them. They know how to leverage, they know how
Speaker 1: to stick together. They don't put up no money. They
Speaker 1: pre sell everything before it happens. You get it, you
Speaker 1: get build it, mean pre sell the rights to the
Speaker 1: naming rights, and then it pays for everything. They just
Speaker 1: beat us. Don't know how to do it. There's no owner.
Speaker 1: One on one. I'll give it to you. I made one.
Speaker 1: I know how to run a team right now, I think.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna try. It's logical. You know the goes.
Speaker 1: They won't I again. I'm gonna get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: be it on it. Let me talk to you for
Speaker 1: a second. Okay, having the money doesn't mean you're getting
Speaker 1: in that club. And you know that true bust it
Speaker 1: would already be there two exactly. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: bust my ass and my chops to raise a bunch
Speaker 1: of money, kiss their ass, and they still gonna tell
Speaker 1: me no all, I'm gonna end up as mad. I've
Speaker 1: been through this dance before I tried to buy a team.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you, just like if you try
Speaker 1: to buy a house, just because you're gonna be add
Speaker 1: on the house, don't mean you're gonna win the be
Speaker 1: it again again. I'd make my own team, but that
Speaker 1: in NFL. Fuck it. I'm gonna say that. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say this. I'm gonna say this. They have no con
Speaker 1: I'm coming to be con. I want to take a
Speaker 1: stab at it. Right, Why do you listen? I don't
Speaker 1: want That's like saying, make a TV show. I'm gonna say, nah, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have my own network, make a movie. Nah.
Speaker 1: I gotta have my own movie company, make a record. Nah,
Speaker 1: I gotta have a label. So when I was eighteen
Speaker 1: years old and everyone was telling me Yo Jays is whack,
Speaker 1: no one would sign him, I had to do it myself.
Speaker 1: When Kanye when no one would sign him, I had
Speaker 1: to do it myself. When no one would put Kevin
Speaker 1: hard on, I had to do it myself. When no
Speaker 1: one would fund Lee Daniels, I had to do it myself.
Speaker 1: And it goes on and on and on. I gotta
Speaker 1: do this myself. It's gotta be a fist though, because
Speaker 1: you mentioned, okay, you mentioned why I want to fit
Speaker 1: in and I could build my own Okay, build Why
Speaker 1: do I think they better than me? Why would I
Speaker 1: think they better than me because he's been there longer? No,
Speaker 1: because they because they own it and I don't my
Speaker 1: shit is better no matter what period. And you'll see
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be logical about the approach and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be futuristic. I'm always in dimension. I had a promise
Speaker 1: for that. Just watch. And also, you just want a team,
Speaker 1: you can have one. How about that? You want a team? Ready?
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, see anyway, you always welcome over here.
Speaker 1: But hey, I treat you like that. I'll treat you
Speaker 1: how you deserve. I get all that. But because I'm big,
Speaker 1: I got so many things going on. That means I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta put down a lot of things to like,
Speaker 1: read up on what I need to do because I
Speaker 1: like you. I want to be good at it. If
Speaker 1: you're a good chef, right and someone can't cook, I'm
Speaker 1: just said if ye if hypothetic. Okay, If you're a
Speaker 1: good chef and you know someone wants you to cook
Speaker 1: for the biggest restaurant in the world, right, you go,
Speaker 1: I can't cook for a thousand people. They go, We'll
Speaker 1: train tends, make junior chefs so they can make it.
Speaker 1: You can always make things happen, And you should never
Speaker 1: think about the reasons why you can't. You only think
Speaker 1: about the reasons why you can, I don't visualize they can't. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I stared. See, that's why I stared. My
Speaker 1: reader the metal my metaverse. They got metaverses over there.
Speaker 1: It's it doesn't cost a dollar to dream, and in
Speaker 1: my dream, everything it's perfect. So I don't think about
Speaker 1: the reasons why or how tired i'm gonna be. I'm
Speaker 1: inspired by what I do, so I'm doing it. I
Speaker 1: don't care about. I'm gonna make sure I do everything
Speaker 1: and be apparent every day all day. I've been able
Speaker 1: to do it. So if I were to tell you
Speaker 1: when I'm eighteen year old, I'm gonna be the biggest
Speaker 1: in music independently, I'm gonna make the biggest movies, or
Speaker 1: at least the best ones. I'm gonna have the biggest
Speaker 1: clothing lines. I'm gonna do it all on my own.
Speaker 1: I got my g D. People traditionally would say I
Speaker 1: was crazy. They all did. And unless you have a
Speaker 1: dream that people think are crazy, then your dream is whack.
Speaker 1: I dream big, bro, and everyone around me that dreams
Speaker 1: big that I've taught the dream big. You're reading a
Speaker 1: bottom in force, but billions next to their names, those
Speaker 1: are my students. Well, I'm out a little nick because
Speaker 1: I want to be next to my name. And I
Speaker 1: ain't just talking about boss me neither, Okay, But I'm
Speaker 1: have a billion dollars worth of love, and my culture
Speaker 1: is gonna eat, not only meet, and I'm gonna toast
Speaker 1: to my culture and all of us being rich and
Speaker 1: being treated with respect, never having to fit in. I
Speaker 1: could hear about it. I want to do something about it.
Speaker 1: We hear a lot about Tyler Perry Studios in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You got Dame Studios and Dame that students. Yeah, out
Speaker 1: here in Burbank, right, have another drink, salute now, I
Speaker 1: was trying to get another vodka in arms. I can't
Speaker 1: be a one hit a quitter. You can't get you know.
Speaker 1: You partner with Fox Solow. So what type of shows
Speaker 1: are you trying to produce out of your studio. It's
Speaker 1: called d programming and things like entertainment is usually made
Speaker 1: to distract us from the oppression, you know, make us
Speaker 1: visualize things that can't happen, you know, And my programming
Speaker 1: is to make us focus. It's about real wealth. So
Speaker 1: this programming like health is wealth showing how you eat.
Speaker 1: This programming and called healing his gangster therapy. There's movies, right,
Speaker 1: there's I'm part of something called the OSG one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty Black Principles, and you know that are fighting
Speaker 1: for us when no one's looking, and I'm showcasing them.
Speaker 1: So they have their programming or what's g programming? I
Speaker 1: got uh programming like Forbidden Knowledge with Billy Carson talking
Speaker 1: about the and the knakis and the things they don't
Speaker 1: teach us that are an ancient text. We have the music,
Speaker 1: the blue rock music. Basically have everything, you know, doctor series.
Speaker 1: We have everything. So you do you do sitcoms everything,
Speaker 1: and on my app you can go to my app
Speaker 1: while you're watching it you can buy it. So we
Speaker 1: do movies. We do everything like you know. That's why
Speaker 1: you see when I came in, I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, thank you. When I look at what kind
Speaker 1: of cameras it though, huh uh huh. How many cameras
Speaker 1: you got? We got a nice little operation, we got
Speaker 1: fall camp. You got one slide I see, and you
Speaker 1: have a set, yeah, and this is a set, So
Speaker 1: why not do some scripted for the same money you're
Speaker 1: sitting down talking. That's what I learned from having a student.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, for the same fucking money, I could
Speaker 1: do well. You could do a lot of things scripted.
Speaker 1: Scripted gives you residual income, right, And that's what it's about,
Speaker 1: making money while you're sitting by the pool. See that's
Speaker 1: the problem. Like you know, sometimes trying to lure my
Speaker 1: crew away. No, I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell you what they do with your crew. I'll
Speaker 1: do it with you if you weren't. You give me
Speaker 1: all these pros. What if some of the cons they
Speaker 1: gotta be, they gotta be. No, the cons is you
Speaker 1: don't try, and you wonder what would have happened if
Speaker 1: you did your whole life and nothing comes true. So
Speaker 1: there has never been a venture that you should slat
Speaker 1: out to do that didn't come through, didn't come through
Speaker 1: fru wishing. I learned that they don't sometimes come through
Speaker 1: the timing and which I want them to. But the experience,
Speaker 1: like you know, I sold oil, I've done all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It was just to see what it was like for me.
Speaker 1: Experience is the wind, right, you can't smoke. Experience is
Speaker 1: the wind. You know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 1: I made my dreams come true when I was young.
Speaker 1: I was like a hip hop mogul before I was
Speaker 1: told five, so I hadn't needed more ship to do.
Speaker 1: It's just everything I visualized in my head. I usually
Speaker 1: end up doing my version of it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to do what everyone else's version of it, because then
Speaker 1: they have to get somebody else's money, be told what
Speaker 1: they do. My version of my dreams is doing it myself,
Speaker 1: being completely independent and always being able to stand behind
Speaker 1: my point of view fearlessly and unapologetically. Right. So why
Speaker 1: is it so important? Because you, like you said, you
Speaker 1: do clothing, you do it, records, you got sporting up
Speaker 1: and f ts. Yeah, because that's what inspires me. I'm
Speaker 1: an artist, so you like being diversified. You would like that.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing music. I'm just doing clothing. I like
Speaker 1: to do a TV show. I like doing whatever inspires me.
Speaker 1: Okay for a living. So the trick is to do
Speaker 1: something and you've learned it. Yes, people, you would play
Speaker 1: football for free you love it, but you would learn
Speaker 1: to get paid. Yeah. I would have played for mother,
Speaker 1: but I need to know everybody else played for free too.
Speaker 1: I ain't playing it for free there, But that's not
Speaker 1: my point. My point is, you know I'm saying. My
Speaker 1: point is the trick is to get paid to do
Speaker 1: something that you would do right free because you love
Speaker 1: it right and then it never feels like Burke right.
Speaker 1: So I'm just the person that's inspired by a lot
Speaker 1: of things. So I just like to do everything without
Speaker 1: somebody telling me what to do. So if I say
Speaker 1: I want to be a football I want a football team.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have to try out and just
Speaker 1: make the team. You mentioned earlier that you're doing the
Speaker 1: paid in full too. Will we see any of the
Speaker 1: original actress? They're too old y see, I mean Poe
Speaker 1: Mcca five for it in camera they were all fifty.
Speaker 1: Now what is it make Cocoon pay the full for
Speaker 1: fifty year old wife TV. I didn't say that, but
Speaker 1: they will. It'll be what painingful nurse at home? I
Speaker 1: don't know. They're too old to play young characters. Day
Speaker 1: You did help you You mentioned you mentioned that some
Speaker 1: of the things, some of the projects you you help funded.
Speaker 1: Lee Daniels, you produced help I funded him, you funded him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody helped I gave him that. I gave him that
Speaker 1: bank when you're making investment. Okay, you you fund Lee
Speaker 1: Daniels or I ain't doing that no more. Okay, that
Speaker 1: was that was a mistake. Okay, you did that the
Speaker 1: cabin hart. I put him in a movie. Ye put
Speaker 1: him in. You to off a stage him in the
Speaker 1: movie the next day? How do how do you? How
Speaker 1: do you know? Because I'm confident when you're a lot
Speaker 1: of people, hold on, there's a lot of comedians in
Speaker 1: the club that you didn't take off the stage and
Speaker 1: put him in a movie. Yeah, I was confident and
Speaker 1: the fact that I thought he was funny and a
Speaker 1: lot of funny people, that's why they comedian. I picked
Speaker 1: a lot of funny people. Yeah, but we don't put
Speaker 1: him in a movie the role I needed. He he
Speaker 1: fit the role. I needed a little dude that was funny,
Speaker 1: that could make fun of himself. He fit the bill.
Speaker 1: He fit the bill, okay. And he just took the opportunity.
Speaker 1: Like I give a lot of people the same opportunities,
Speaker 1: and I see pretention a lot of people that don't
Speaker 1: realize them. Effort and again, as a professional athlete, you
Speaker 1: know it could be good. But I have a discipline
Speaker 1: and you know you end up going nowhere. So just
Speaker 1: Kevin is one of those people that just had the
Speaker 1: work I think, and took the opportunity. And I might
Speaker 1: not agree with everything he's done, but you know he's
Speaker 1: got where he has to go, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 1: in other words, you have an eye for talent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have an eye for talent for sure, But having
Speaker 1: an eye for work ethic is also something. I have
Speaker 1: an eye for it too. There are a lot of
Speaker 1: people that work hard and our talented day and they
Speaker 1: end up getting good places, great places. So you see Kevin,
Speaker 1: you see Jay, You see a lot of these people,
Speaker 1: and you're saying, Okay, I'm doing this. They can fit
Speaker 1: the bill for what I'm looking for. They work hard,
Speaker 1: they're discipline, they're determined. Their work ethic match my work ethic,
Speaker 1: and I think we can go places they make the tryout, right.
Speaker 1: I put him through training camp, my version of it,
Speaker 1: and if you can make it, then we're gonna get money.
Speaker 1: How do you know somebody has it? You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what, but he has he or she has it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it's being inspired. It's like,
Speaker 1: how do you know it's gonna make your body move
Speaker 1: like by dancing. I don't just gonna start moving. How
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be attracted to a woman. It's
Speaker 1: just just things that you see in the person or
Speaker 1: that sometimes just inspire you. You don't know why. Born
Speaker 1: in Harlem, raised in Harlem. Hm, you're upbringing when Dame
Speaker 1: was growing up? What did you want to be? What
Speaker 1: did you inspire to? Damn you running through that cup?
Speaker 1: I'm a rock star, bro, are we gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get through the interview? Are you gonna be? Are
Speaker 1: you gonna be drunk? Gonna be? Did you see that?
Speaker 1: You saw when I bodied Nori on his own show,
Speaker 1: Drink Champs, she ended up like ridiculous. I'm a rock star,
Speaker 1: but I'm dam dash, I'm a professional rock star. Ste
Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, well, I mean we're coming to me,
Speaker 1: you know we do? You know, we don't really have
Speaker 1: bottle stir, we don't have box tailers that everything. You said,
Speaker 1: this is a club, Yeah, so I got I guess
Speaker 1: I gotta hi are the end of everything. But if
Speaker 1: you say it's a club, yeah, I mean say you're
Speaker 1: a football team. You got a football players, right, and
Speaker 1: a football we might be a soccer team. Then you
Speaker 1: have to have soccer. I'm I'm doing all the sports.
Speaker 1: Trust me. I'm starting with football. I'm going back. I'm
Speaker 1: going basketball next. I'll show you a plan if you
Speaker 1: want to know it. I'm here, I mean, I'm in.
Speaker 1: Can I can I start with this and take this
Speaker 1: to another level. This is a hard business because in
Speaker 1: every state there's different laws. I'm learning and then you
Speaker 1: have to and then you have to beg for real estate.
Speaker 1: You have to go do these taste things and it's
Speaker 1: a lot, so you know, but when it gets going,
Speaker 1: it gets going. It's a replenishable good. It's not like
Speaker 1: you have to keep designing making them so you know. See, see,
Speaker 1: I look at you. You just told me you're trying
Speaker 1: to deter me from my I said, I did say that.
Speaker 1: I just told you it's a hard thing. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't care. You just told me me to care about it.
Speaker 1: I just said, be prepared for it. I'm prepared. There
Speaker 1: it is now I need you to help me to
Speaker 1: to elevate. Okay, what's the name of it. It's called
Speaker 1: the Portier BP. Get it. Here you go, and if
Speaker 1: you want I sponsor, I put your I put See
Speaker 1: the thing is I got stadiums right yea, and I
Speaker 1: could put you want you want to put it in there?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, boys, I help out, bro if my spots
Speaker 1: clicking in your work's good, I share. I want to
Speaker 1: see you winning. If I can help, I will. I
Speaker 1: just wanted the same energy reciprocated Hollop hall The Hallom
Speaker 1: swag ridiculous. But everybody, every borough field, they got their
Speaker 1: own swag. Who all of them dudes don't care about
Speaker 1: every brod they there there you queens, stop what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what about Hollom. We just want to win.
Speaker 1: That's it. It doesn't matter. All the extra shit is corny.
Speaker 1: It's about getting that bread and looking good doing it
Speaker 1: and always being on your ding, having honor, being cut
Speaker 1: from a certain cloth like a real cat, right, you know,
Speaker 1: that's all. Just knowing that if you're not number one
Speaker 1: now you will be right, you know, because we're hustless,
Speaker 1: so we don't give a fuck about betting at all
Speaker 1: every time. There's no fear that. But you know, have
Speaker 1: you always been a hustler? Yeah? Where did that come from?
Speaker 1: So my bloodline? I have an interesting family, Okay, tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit about it. I can't not allow
Speaker 1: you can't speak about your failing, not that part. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't have to get permission. I read your mother
Speaker 1: passed away at a very young age. The impact. Then
Speaker 1: you had to go to a boarding school with the impact.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to. I put myself in the boarding so, okay,
Speaker 1: made me a beast, It made me an animal, made
Speaker 1: me feel us. My worst nightmare was losing my mother,
Speaker 1: and it happened to me fairly young, right, So what
Speaker 1: else did I have to be scared of? Then my
Speaker 1: friends started to become killers, and I knew that I
Speaker 1: would be have to become one because it was part
Speaker 1: of the game, and I was becoming a product of
Speaker 1: my environment. My mother worked too hard for me not
Speaker 1: to have to do that. So I put myself in
Speaker 1: boarding school South Kent. I played football, across in basketball
Speaker 1: and started boxing as a team. So the homies do
Speaker 1: what they think, like, that's not for me. I see
Speaker 1: something big or brighter, know I was. I was hustling,
Speaker 1: yeah hard, I just you know. The boxing happened because
Speaker 1: somebody aw me some money. You had to put hands
Speaker 1: on him, and I was like, might as well. Sophisticate teasy.
Speaker 1: She can't. You want to get good at it, so
Speaker 1: you really do for that. I got very good at it.
Speaker 1: I had to or so I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: handsome and shit. So you know, so the under estimate
Speaker 1: you always so when they looking at her, man you
Speaker 1: all decked out, They're like, it was just I was
Speaker 1: a smaller good you know. It was like it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to look at me like a
Speaker 1: pretty boy, and I was like, I just act ugly
Speaker 1: for y'all. Then, you know, marketing promoting what what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because because what you do, you're right, you take a
Speaker 1: space that somebody else. You're like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in your space. I want to have my own space.
Speaker 1: That's what I feel like, that's what every man should want.
Speaker 1: I don't see any other way. Like, you know, I
Speaker 1: have friends that have big houses, but I can't stay
Speaker 1: at their houses. I like to walk around the way
Speaker 1: I want. I like to infrigerator, right, you know. I
Speaker 1: like to make the rules, and I can only make
Speaker 1: the rules in my house. Right. I have to abide
Speaker 1: by other's rules and other people's houses, and I don't
Speaker 1: like other people's rules. Sometimes So what what knowledge did
Speaker 1: you take from the street and incorporated into what you
Speaker 1: do now? Everything marketing? You know, you had a color
Speaker 1: top and you definitely somebody came into block using your
Speaker 1: color and putting some You know that that was a
Speaker 1: problem because they could compromise you what people think about
Speaker 1: your work. And then also infrastructure. You know, I had
Speaker 1: a team at a young age. You know, I had
Speaker 1: people working for me. I had to collect, I had
Speaker 1: to re up all that type of thing. How do
Speaker 1: you But the difference is I was, you know, definitely
Speaker 1: way twenty years way past twenty years ago, but I
Speaker 1: was really young, and I applied all those things to
Speaker 1: what I do now. The differences the recourses in jail
Speaker 1: or death, So the ship is easy. That's my point. Like,
Speaker 1: if you fail in that world, you go to jail
Speaker 1: or you know, you die, right, That's why I stopped.
Speaker 1: It's not sustainable in my teens. But in this world,
Speaker 1: what the fuck's gonna happen? How do you put enough
Speaker 1: people to do what you needed to do what you
Speaker 1: wanted to do. You have to have enough people around
Speaker 1: you you can trust. I don't trust nobody, what you mean,
Speaker 1: you don't trust anybody? I don't trust nobody. Let's to
Speaker 1: be a drug dealer, bro, you still had to trust somebody.
Speaker 1: You gave somebody your drug. They had to so you
Speaker 1: sold y'all. You had no you had no runners. I
Speaker 1: didn't give them enough to hurt me. But I gave
Speaker 1: him enough to make me hurt them. But still you
Speaker 1: so you still had to trust them. Didn't trust them.
Speaker 1: It just didn't give him enough to hurt me. What
Speaker 1: do you mean I wouldn't give him my whole stash.
Speaker 1: You first hit somebody, I feel like I'm gonna jail
Speaker 1: with this. You ain't gonna limitation. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you hit somebody, give them enough work to war. If
Speaker 1: they don't give you back, it don't hurt you. But
Speaker 1: I'm never giving somebody everything. No nobody would do that.
Speaker 1: But what about So what about? And I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: music and don't trust. In order for you to get
Speaker 1: like this, you had somebody had to betray you. So
Speaker 1: you trusted somebody from the beginning because you learned through experience. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I never trusted anybody. And if you notice, I was
Speaker 1: known for punishing people that portrayed my trust. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't having it. And then I walk away. So once
Speaker 1: somebody portrays or does something that's beyond my boundaries that
Speaker 1: I can get, can't control to where it could hurt me,
Speaker 1: it's trying to go. But the music industry itself to
Speaker 1: me was a waste of time. Why that caught you
Speaker 1: on the map? It was a stepping stone. But when
Speaker 1: I say it's a waste of time, industry wise, they
Speaker 1: don't do real business. There's figureheads that that don't have
Speaker 1: the power. Like you could call somebody a president at
Speaker 1: a music company and they don't know shit about P
Speaker 1: and L and it's just a figurehead. It's not real business.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, the majors, which is not run
Speaker 1: by our culture, putting us as figureheads there so that
Speaker 1: they could say that it's still being run by black people,
Speaker 1: But it's not. All the decisions will being made by
Speaker 1: someone else. Do you know that? So I got sick
Speaker 1: of playing those games. I was too ill in the
Speaker 1: street to be a sucker in the real in business,
Speaker 1: you know, on corporate business. How'd you meet? You? Say?
Speaker 1: Jay Z Clark Kent introduced me to him. What made
Speaker 1: you think of twenty six year old rapper could be big?
Speaker 1: In the industry because he had on Nike ass. What
Speaker 1: the hell I gotta do with it? We was from Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: I'm from Harland. Back in those days, Brooklyn dudes didn't
Speaker 1: wear Nike ass, So that was a flag for me.
Speaker 1: You got a very peculiar way of of of of
Speaker 1: recognizing people and believing that they can do big things
Speaker 1: based on an appearance. Seems like it works, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: You said you were tired for begging for a seat
Speaker 1: at the tape. I never begged for a seat to said,
Speaker 1: I broke that table. I never begged for nothing. So
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sired of hearing us to beg before
Speaker 1: the table. How about when you when you and Jay
Speaker 1: Jay blows up your company? Now people want to talk
Speaker 1: to you. You understand we were always blown up. J
Speaker 1: V wasn't always blown up. Yeah, we was in the street.
Speaker 1: We was doing really well. No, he didn't make no
Speaker 1: you know, I promise you think about this. Back in
Speaker 1: those days, the rappers were emulating the drug dealers. Yes,
Speaker 1: we were really good drug dealers, so we were famous
Speaker 1: in the street already. Yeah, so it was normal. But
Speaker 1: were you going why? That's why when like Lee or
Speaker 1: offered us a million dollars. We was like, we laughed
Speaker 1: at him, right, it was like, we're not here for
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Yeah, because we like having fun, right,
Speaker 1: you know? But we knew once we got there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're hustlers. Of course we're gonna fucking destroy this ship,
Speaker 1: which we did. We did exactly what we said we
Speaker 1: were gonna do when I knew we were. And who
Speaker 1: who educated you on owning your masters? Because that seems
Speaker 1: to be something that a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: musicians entertainments struggle with and they're fighting, they're scratching and
Speaker 1: trying to claw it back. That was my education. Listen
Speaker 1: to everybody else complain about it. Right, If I hear
Speaker 1: somebody made a mistake, why would I make the same mistake? Right?
Speaker 1: That's dumb? So how how difficult was it to negotiate that?
Speaker 1: You don't have to negotiate anything when you own it?
Speaker 1: There was no negotiation. What are you talking about when
Speaker 1: you're the boss? You don't have to negotiate. You fire people.
Speaker 1: You seem to have a as a business mogul. You
Speaker 1: he seemed to have a very short fuse. No, I
Speaker 1: just don't like disrespect that's the street ship. So that
Speaker 1: I have triggers for sure. Disrespect it's a big trigger.
Speaker 1: What what do you determined as disrespect? Not being a
Speaker 1: man in your work, having an agreement, or crushing my
Speaker 1: boundaries when I clearly established it. So I make my
Speaker 1: boundaries clear and awesome, you're consciously disrespecting me. And then
Speaker 1: the street that means you think I'm soft. So then
Speaker 1: I gotta swing on you. What's his name, governor, governor
Speaker 1: your dad? Yeah, you know that too hard. He's not
Speaker 1: listening monkey, get him go. He's too strong. He's been
Speaker 1: his caving bogus too. So how you stay so strong? Strong?
Speaker 1: I work out? Watch what you all the things you do?
Speaker 1: You make time to work. There you go with it,
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. You see all that
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary. Yes, you're right. I find the time to
Speaker 1: do the things that I want to do. Exactly, we
Speaker 1: find the time to do the things that we want
Speaker 1: to do. We prioritize touring in the nineties. In two thousand,
Speaker 1: you put together two or fifty fourth thirty JZ Deal
Speaker 1: makes Jar Rule, red Man Method, Eve Property nineteen million
Speaker 1: revolutionized the hip hop touring in the hip hop industry
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine. But now you said, what's wrong
Speaker 1: with touring? There's nothing wrong with toring. You mean artists
Speaker 1: today it's COVID. You can't go out right now. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not touring. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: wrong to goring. That's the only way an artist makes money. Really.
Speaker 1: I think the problem maybe with touring now is just
Speaker 1: these three sixty deals where you sell your touring to
Speaker 1: the record company. But touring is the way you make
Speaker 1: your bread. But here's the thing, why would they do
Speaker 1: that because they don't have any bread. You don't have nothing.
Speaker 1: You're selling something. You're like, yo, I don't have it anyway,
Speaker 1: so you sell it. Actually, I don't know I'm doing that,
Speaker 1: says why not do it yourself? You get a hundred
Speaker 1: people in room, you get one hundred thousand, Right, it's
Speaker 1: just a little harder work. It's the advanced money. If
Speaker 1: you've been broke your whole life and someone's gonna give
Speaker 1: you something that's gonna make you like, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden being another social circle, yes, then you're gonna do
Speaker 1: it when you're young. I've been broke your whole life
Speaker 1: and somebody's gonna make you rich like that, at least
Speaker 1: what you're perceive it. But you're taking it so you know,
Speaker 1: people know how to trigger people. It's a program. But
Speaker 1: the thing is, if you've been broke your whole life,
Speaker 1: another six months not gonna break you. Wouldn't. Nobody's thinking that.
Speaker 1: If you even broke your whole life, that's like being underwater.
Speaker 1: Soon somebody's gonna give you some oxygen. You're taking it,
Speaker 1: but I'm not excusing it. I have never I wasn't
Speaker 1: broken my whole life, right, I was never broken. My
Speaker 1: version of broke is completely different than most Right. What
Speaker 1: made you decide to start capturing contents content while you
Speaker 1: were touring? Because it was logical. I knew we were
Speaker 1: making history. I know what it would look like edited.
Speaker 1: I could visualize the future, but I wouldn't. I've been capturing.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why I have television. I I captured
Speaker 1: everything right, everything, the hardest, the hardest item. Bet you
Speaker 1: know the the difference between me and everyone else, Okay, because
Speaker 1: I don't wait for everybody else to do it. I
Speaker 1: just do It's logical no matter what. I don't know
Speaker 1: why everybody wants to be you know that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be doing what everyone else is doing. Why do you
Speaker 1: want to be in a crowd of people that are
Speaker 1: doing the same thing? You disappear. I just like to
Speaker 1: stand out. If everybody's doing something, then I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it right. The reason why we said what's
Speaker 1: to get up? Because no one can dress like me.
Speaker 1: I know that when I walk in this room, no
Speaker 1: one's gonna have this outfit on. They can't do it, can't,
Speaker 1: won't not. You cannot put this outfit together. This you
Speaker 1: have to be a black belt. The Rockefeller chain, M
Speaker 1: what about it? Why was it so popular? Because I
Speaker 1: made it popular how by saying, let's make a Rockefeller chain?
Speaker 1: And you noticed me I would publicly give them away
Speaker 1: and I was the only one that gave them away.
Speaker 1: So unless I gave you a Rockefeller chain, you don't
Speaker 1: have a real Rockefeller chain. It's it's it's fuego Kanye.
Speaker 1: When you when you first met Kanye, you heard it sound.
Speaker 1: Did you knew he did you know he could be
Speaker 1: what he became? No, not at all. I never expected
Speaker 1: that in a billion years. So even something something surprised you,
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Nothing surprised to me, but I didn't
Speaker 1: expect it. Okay, well you didn't expect it, so I expected.
Speaker 1: I expected other people that were in my crew to
Speaker 1: be Kanye. I expected someone to do those things, but
Speaker 1: I didn't know it would be him. But the reason
Speaker 1: why it was him is because he had the most
Speaker 1: respect for me. He's the only one that listened completely.
Speaker 1: It still does on certain levels. Yeah, the Easy brand,
Speaker 1: Jordan brand had a head start. That's why I've always said,
Speaker 1: I think it's so hard for someone to compete with
Speaker 1: the Jordan because he got a twenty five thirty year
Speaker 1: head start on you. But the Easy has made up
Speaker 1: a lot of ground in a very short time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why why? And how did the Yeasy become so popular?
Speaker 1: Jordan didn't make music so the crossover peal. Jordan was
Speaker 1: known for playing good basketball, right, Kanye's known for something
Speaker 1: completely different. If Michael Jackson had sneakers and they were
Speaker 1: designed well, he would have made more money than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: I think I like to think I like about artists.
Speaker 1: Now they're willing to branch out. Back then, the artists
Speaker 1: just wanted to do what he was good at because
Speaker 1: I taught them that we're talking about one of my students. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the point. I teach people things so it could
Speaker 1: that's in the future. I played chess, not checkers. Right,
Speaker 1: everything that happened now was dictated by something that happened
Speaker 1: one hundred years ago. I'm planning for the next hundred years.
Speaker 1: So I have to get my people right as babies.
Speaker 1: Old people are fucking stubborn. Second, talking to people that
Speaker 1: don't listen just because they didn't have the heart to fight.
Speaker 1: They judge the others that do. These young cats, they
Speaker 1: down for it because they don't know no other way.
Speaker 1: Why is it's so important for you to empower those
Speaker 1: around you? You always talk about how you give knowledge,
Speaker 1: How if people listen, you got you can go place,
Speaker 1: you can do things. Why is that so important for you?
Speaker 1: Because I love my culture. It's like asking me, why
Speaker 1: would it be important for me to educate my child
Speaker 1: because I love my child? Simple as that, pretty simple.
Speaker 1: It's all about love. I'm not going to educate you.
Speaker 1: If I don't love you, right, I go a fuck
Speaker 1: about you. Why would I speak to you a little harsh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: If I don't care about you, why what I speaks
Speaker 1: to you? I care about the people I speak to.
Speaker 1: I make the effort. I even hurt myself sometime to
Speaker 1: help others sometime to default. Not ask you to to
Speaker 1: re goo through every step by step. Obviously you and
Speaker 1: Jay aren't as close. Maybe you would because I heard
Speaker 1: it Hall of Fame speech and he thanked You say,
Speaker 1: you guys don't see addio on some things. But what
Speaker 1: you guys work. We're in court right now. That's why
Speaker 1: I said, But yeah, what about it? It's because you're
Speaker 1: giving me shot glasses. That's what it is. Mad, A
Speaker 1: little shot glass man for a rock star is No,
Speaker 1: that's not what we call him where I'm from, y'all
Speaker 1: call him rock star. That's not what we call him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a professional athlete. You had to stay. You know
Speaker 1: you couldn't be getting drunk. I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I could probably be on the floor by now.
Speaker 1: You man strong, But this ship will not get the
Speaker 1: fuck out. You probably got a protein shake back there
Speaker 1: while I wasn't looking at song. Let's get a little
Speaker 1: to it day. You guys made magic. You guys made history.
Speaker 1: A different a difference of opinion. What difference is the name?
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're talking about right now, J
Speaker 1: What about why y'all kid? Just hey, bro, get into
Speaker 1: a room, Hey bro, hug it out straight. What you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Why don't listening to the paper? Why you
Speaker 1: in court? Did if y're straight? Because he sued me
Speaker 1: for something that he said that I did that I
Speaker 1: didn't and then I just had to sue him because
Speaker 1: he was redirecting funds for reasonable doubt. I didn't realize it.
Speaker 1: It's just I would never sue somebody I used to
Speaker 1: hustle with. I'm not into sueing anybody. I was disappointing.
Speaker 1: I think it's embarrassing. But the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: you know, again the program is when two black people
Speaker 1: used to work together and now they don't, then they
Speaker 1: gotta be beefing. I'm not beefing with that man. I
Speaker 1: don't care what he's doing. I don't like the way
Speaker 1: he carried things, but you know that's on him. He
Speaker 1: went his way. I went mind. When you get traded
Speaker 1: from a team, do you hate the team you get
Speaker 1: traded from? No? All right, I mean something some team
Speaker 1: some people do. Let me take that back, But what's
Speaker 1: the beef that I have with him? That you think.
Speaker 1: Tell me I don't. I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: you have any I just feel like, dang man, I
Speaker 1: have no beefing this. I don't know you or him
Speaker 1: well enough. I don't have the beef in any black man.
Speaker 1: That's what we're programming to do. Fight each other and
Speaker 1: not pay attention to the people that are pressing us.
Speaker 1: I ain't got no beef for Jay. Just stay over there,
Speaker 1: I stay over here. I just you know the team
Speaker 1: he plays for. It's not the team I played for. Period.
Speaker 1: I just chose a different team. Well, why we can't
Speaker 1: all get together and coom buy y'all hug this thing.
Speaker 1: Go and get him hug what thing out? If I
Speaker 1: see Jameson pounding the hug, no matter what what you're
Speaker 1: talking about, get out of Courtney, I talk to your
Speaker 1: man going to the club, talk about this. You say,
Speaker 1: you're a rock star, so you got no I am
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, you're a rock star, no doubt. You
Speaker 1: go to the club. I don't go to the club.
Speaker 1: I go to my club that I own. Okay, you
Speaker 1: go to the club that you own. What about that
Speaker 1: club and the bottles? Did you start the bottle? Did
Speaker 1: you start the bottle service to pop in the bottles,
Speaker 1: and I would say I didn't start bottle service because
Speaker 1: that means you could pay for cool. I just started
Speaker 1: going into clubs and buying out the bar. My crew
Speaker 1: all the champagne. So all the girls have to come
Speaker 1: to us to get the champagne. It was a logical model.
Speaker 1: If you have all the champagne, the girls have to
Speaker 1: come to you to get it. What if they all
Speaker 1: like champagne? What do they like to keep the shots?
Speaker 1: See then what you keep thinking of it? That's too much?
Speaker 1: Then they like me, they like who damn dash, They
Speaker 1: don't like the champagne. They like dame dads. But see
Speaker 1: you buying up something. You you fourth them like you
Speaker 1: just said, you said, if you got my head on
Speaker 1: the water with the first chance I get to get oxygen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it. If they're buying all you got
Speaker 1: all the champagne. I want champagne. I got to come
Speaker 1: see you that. I'm not bottling hardly coming. You forced
Speaker 1: me into the situation. I don't know what you do
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. You brought all the champagne,
Speaker 1: so the hunts up in there. We had to come
Speaker 1: see you. You didn't give them an opportune You didn't
Speaker 1: give them a choice. They didn't have to come see
Speaker 1: if they wanted a Champagne, you had it all right,
Speaker 1: So what you mean they didn't have a choice. So
Speaker 1: what's the problem with you? I understand the end. There's
Speaker 1: the problem. Why Why is that a problem? Because you
Speaker 1: forced the people. I enforce anybody. It's good marketing. What
Speaker 1: you did, you knew if I buy up all of this, right,
Speaker 1: you gonna have to come see me to get this.
Speaker 1: Sounds like I'm a genius. Sound like you you gouge
Speaker 1: it that you put people in a situation where they
Speaker 1: had no choice. I call that genius. Look, if there's
Speaker 1: if there's a disaster, and I all the brave, all
Speaker 1: the wars, Champagne's not a desag yes it is. And
Speaker 1: the club it is. You go to the club and
Speaker 1: do what I don't have a good time, right. I
Speaker 1: think you're making things too complicated, not to complicated. I
Speaker 1: think you slick, That's what I think. I'm very slick. Okay, See,
Speaker 1: I thought I wanted you to say two minutes ago,
Speaker 1: and you should have asked me. You think you slicking?
Speaker 1: Up and like, yeah, I know, did you realize that
Speaker 1: with a trend at the side? I made it a trend.
Speaker 1: I make the trends. You should have patted to say,
Speaker 1: you can't buy the UK, you can buy the bar?
Speaker 1: Why should I do that? They should call it a day.
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be contagious. I wanted everybody to
Speaker 1: buy the bar. I lead by example. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: patent this so no one else could do it. Then
Speaker 1: I gotta do it all the time. I want to
Speaker 1: have everybody else to do it. A Leah day too?
Speaker 1: What's your legacy? Coolest girl in the whole world? You know,
Speaker 1: too good for this world? Who is there anybody that
Speaker 1: remind you have her style? Yeah? My girl? Right come,
Speaker 1: that's who reminds me of a live doctor. Dre said recently,
Speaker 1: artists care more about money and not the art. Do
Speaker 1: you agree with that? He said? What artists care more
Speaker 1: about money and not the art? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think broke people care more about the money. Ask somebody, Regista,
Speaker 1: what hell? How many millionaire rappers you know that start
Speaker 1: out as millionaires and get into the rap game? Jade Smith?
Speaker 1: Who will Smith's son? Oh? Lord, a Mercy tis Son.
Speaker 1: I thought you was gonna say. I thought you're gonna
Speaker 1: say Kendrick Lamar. I thought you were gonna say eminem
Speaker 1: elude or TI. Why would I say that that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be true because they know stop. I just answered your
Speaker 1: question honest. So Jay, so you you James, no disrespect,
Speaker 1: but come on that. I'm fifty man, I don't judge
Speaker 1: these kids. I don't know what language they're talking. This
Speaker 1: man said, James Smill. You just said, is there any
Speaker 1: rappers that started on his name? There's that name too
Speaker 1: off top? Yeah, but I don't they toured. I know
Speaker 1: you just asked me. That's what I'm saying. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean you can say anything. No, I said the truth. No,
Speaker 1: that's not James Smith's not a rapper. That's what you
Speaker 1: call it. Okay, you're the guy. You the expert. I'm
Speaker 1: not oh shitty, this is James Smith. No, that's not
Speaker 1: what I all I said. I said, that's what you as.
Speaker 1: You're the expert. You're the expert. I said a rapp though,
Speaker 1: Kenny for I saw, yeah, okay, I'm an you the expert.
Speaker 1: If you wouldn't ask me something, not an expert. I'm
Speaker 1: fifty no no, no no, no, no, you've been in the business, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: this rap beef that we have going on? We see, pops,
Speaker 1: what we see so many of these young dolf We
Speaker 1: see so many of these guys. What's going on? How
Speaker 1: do we stop that? It's an algorithm that needs to
Speaker 1: be stopped. So the algorithm that's like if you like
Speaker 1: to look at trolling and beef and it pops up
Speaker 1: on your phone, YouTube should stop paying when people put
Speaker 1: up beef. That algorithm needs to be stopped. The algorithms
Speaker 1: or they're controlling us right now. So instead of people
Speaker 1: paying attention to a negative algorithm, they should pay attention
Speaker 1: to a positive one. It's just the program that we
Speaker 1: keep falling into. Like I said, family killing family instead
Speaker 1: of your real enemy. Is your enemy tricking you to
Speaker 1: do that, and we're aware of it, but we keep
Speaker 1: doing it. My rule of thumb is I'm not hurting
Speaker 1: anybody with the same color skin as me, period, and
Speaker 1: then it just keeps things peaceful if they're real. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it for the longest time to go back
Speaker 1: west coast, east coast. Now all of a sudden, I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody you know got to come out with a disth track.
Speaker 1: If somebody accidentally say something, well, I mean I saw
Speaker 1: Dame he had a Peak shirt on. Dave got to
Speaker 1: come out with a dis track. Was that like a
Speaker 1: little job. So it's it's it's it's it's it's a program,
Speaker 1: you know, it's knowing how to trigger people, and it's
Speaker 1: profitable our dysfunction. But what needs to be profitable is
Speaker 1: our our love and our unity, and that's what has
Speaker 1: to be showcased. But no one shows that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, people that are broke will do anything
Speaker 1: to not be broken. They justify not being honorable to
Speaker 1: do it. It's just don't look the other way. Money
Speaker 1: is not real. It's not backed by gold, and as
Speaker 1: you see, they're creating currencies daily. So don't do anything
Speaker 1: for money. To do things for love, and then you'll
Speaker 1: be protected and you'll know what real wealth is. You're
Speaker 1: big on promoting help. How can we get the culture
Speaker 1: op community helpier? You know, by showcasing cool people eating
Speaker 1: good food. It's about influence and leading by example. So
Speaker 1: telling people what they do doesn't work. Showing people what
Speaker 1: to do by doing it, and if they respect you,
Speaker 1: they usually do it right it's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta make it aspirational kind of, but just understanding, Like
Speaker 1: there's this documentary called They're Killing Us that shows exactly
Speaker 1: how food is targeted to black people to kill them,
Speaker 1: but they won't showcase that. You know, understanding that, you know,
Speaker 1: meat has nothing but fecal and doodle all over it,
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of it. Who the fuck wants to
Speaker 1: eat doo doo? And understanding what the GMO does to
Speaker 1: your body and your organs? Are you vegan? Vegan? Ish
Speaker 1: eight eggs and cheese? Sometimes no fish. It's disgusting. Do
Speaker 1: you see cspiracy? Like when you think of fishing or fish,
Speaker 1: you think they're people are out there fishing and that's
Speaker 1: that's not it, most of them and they're sitting in
Speaker 1: the toilet shitting, you know, and dying. It's disgusting. Anything
Speaker 1: that shit is disgusting. I'm not eating, so you don't
Speaker 1: eat no pro you don't eat no animal protein. M hm,
Speaker 1: it's disgusting. It's like eating governor. Now hein' like eating
Speaker 1: no governor. It looks like a little count. Look looks
Speaker 1: like a little pig. Advice what advice would you give
Speaker 1: someone trying to be an entrepreneur. You've done it, been there,
Speaker 1: done that. Find something you love and fight fearlessly for
Speaker 1: it until it makes money period. Because you know what,
Speaker 1: it's funny that you say that, because that's what I
Speaker 1: tell people it say. You know, I said, why would
Speaker 1: you get a fast out with good at football? And
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I found out somebody would pay me
Speaker 1: to do it most of the time. What what? What
Speaker 1: are you most what are you most here most of
Speaker 1: the time? Man, I want to get it. I want
Speaker 1: to make a lot of money. Okay, what do you
Speaker 1: want to do? I don't care. I just want to
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. It's not gonna happen because
Speaker 1: you just say it. Find something you love. Everything will
Speaker 1: take care of itself. But if you just want to
Speaker 1: do something to make money, you're not gonna love doing
Speaker 1: it necessarily and then when you won't stick to it.
Speaker 1: So what's your question? How do you teach? Well? I
Speaker 1: think the thing is up what becoming an entrepreneur? Because
Speaker 1: I think just because are they are they are they exclusive?
Speaker 1: I mean, just because you're an entrepreneur, does that mean
Speaker 1: that that means you're making tons of money? If they're
Speaker 1: making tons of money. Does that means you're an entrepreneur?
Speaker 1: If you're a football player, does that making making tons
Speaker 1: of money? Yeah? Yeah, I'm a football player, but I'm
Speaker 1: not an entrepreneur. And asking that, I ask you, if
Speaker 1: you're a football player, yeah, does that mean you're making
Speaker 1: tons of money? Not? Well, I mean I didn't at first,
Speaker 1: but I started out making money, but I love football.
Speaker 1: It depends on the football player, right, same thing with entrepreneurs.
Speaker 1: Depends on the entrepreneur. What qualities make a good entrepreneur?
Speaker 1: What qualities make a good football player? It all depends
Speaker 1: on the positions that he's playing, whatever position these plays. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: the things that make a quarterback good necessarily might not
Speaker 1: make an offensive lineman good. And the thing that makes
Speaker 1: an offensive wasn't good. Question what every entrepreneur does a
Speaker 1: different business. I'm asking you what us over the quality?
Speaker 1: I'm asking you, yeah, what makes generally a good football player?
Speaker 1: I think i Q makes great players, because I think
Speaker 1: everybody i Q yeah, makes great entrepreneurs. Next, if I
Speaker 1: play a skill position, I need to be I need
Speaker 1: to be you know, have some decent speed. I don't
Speaker 1: need to be you know who you say? Being fast?
Speaker 1: Makes a great entrepreneurs. Uh so any entrepreneurs. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter the business that I mean. I think the
Speaker 1: question you should ask is what makes a great professional? Okay,
Speaker 1: what makes a great professional? You tell me you you're
Speaker 1: a professional. What makes a great professional? Well, I'm always
Speaker 1: about time. You were late. I'm always about courtesy. I'm
Speaker 1: also I'm always about respect. I'm big on respect. I'm
Speaker 1: huge on respect. Don't you think if you respected me
Speaker 1: the most, you would have came to me, came to
Speaker 1: you within to do the interview? I did. No, I'm here.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm late. Why are you beating? You? Late? Disrespectful?
Speaker 1: How did respected you? You didn't come to me? Hello?
Speaker 1: So another word, just do a job. I just was
Speaker 1: fucking I ain't don't I would job after you were late? Hello,
Speaker 1: let me ask your question. You think I'm drinking? I
Speaker 1: just mean you think dreg I'll be looking at looking
Speaker 1: you're drinking the sip for the whole show. I ain't
Speaker 1: even just drank that. Do you see that? That girl drinking?
Speaker 1: You said should they go down? And all? Now you
Speaker 1: have a whole thing down. I'm about like your ship.
Speaker 1: Why are you not? Why are you take a shot
Speaker 1: of your ship real quick, yo, shit, but you do
Speaker 1: realize take a shot, take that knocked that, damn knocked that. Damn.
Speaker 1: This is not a shot drink that wasn't a shot
Speaker 1: a shot. No, this is a sipping drink. You ain't
Speaker 1: been sipping you and you are not having to come
Speaker 1: still there. You haven't said refiliate. No, look, let even
Speaker 1: take the top off. It's bad promotion. No, well, first
Speaker 1: drink gon't even drink his own drink? Oh oh, I
Speaker 1: definitely drink it, So go ahead. How does how does damn?
Speaker 1: Define success? Love and happiness and laughter? Love what you
Speaker 1: do or love who you're doing it with and for
Speaker 1: both happiness? How do we define happiness? How much you laugh?
Speaker 1: Love the amount of people that are happy that you
Speaker 1: care about. Everybody in your circle feels that from you
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. That's why they stay in my circle.
Speaker 1: What's the art of the deal being profitable? If it
Speaker 1: doesn't make money, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make love.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense. Love ain't always profitable. It's always profitable. Nah,
Speaker 1: sometimes because I know some people that lost bill because
Speaker 1: they lived they didn't love right, don't love? Man? Here
Speaker 1: am I gonna dang dash you. I feel a be
Speaker 1: with Steve Harvey and doctor Field? Which one of you?
Speaker 1: How the fuck did you get Doctor Fields Steve Harvey
Speaker 1: from that? Do I have a big fat musself? You?
Speaker 1: You offered all these love quotes and advice or relationships
Speaker 1: and everything I do therapy, and I my currency is love.
Speaker 1: That's all I care about. Well, then, how do you
Speaker 1: know when to walk with what's the first time that says,
Speaker 1: Dame need to walk away from this one? It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good, but yeah, that's what I'm saying. Governor. How
Speaker 1: do you not giving the pressure? I don't feel any pressure.
Speaker 1: What's pressure? What does that work be? To be Dame dash?
Speaker 1: It's too easy to be me. It's no pressure being me.
Speaker 1: But because you've been successful, do you not feel the
Speaker 1: need to always be successful in everything that you do.
Speaker 1: I'm always successful in everything that I do, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I don't even know what it means not
Speaker 1: to be successful. It's not an I'm always finding the
Speaker 1: light in the dark. What's the hardest part about being
Speaker 1: a boss? Internalizing not putting your hands on somebody that's
Speaker 1: disrespecting you that you know you can break in half,
Speaker 1: but it's not legal. Why you still have that mindset?
Speaker 1: I don't know. You do no PTST PTSD. Are you going?
Speaker 1: Are you post traumatic stress? Huh? Survival was traanic, You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not surviving now. But I was being young and
Speaker 1: watching people get killed, watching people go to jail. That
Speaker 1: ship was traumatized. Use sports, But do you watch sports?
Speaker 1: I understand that you want to own your own industry?
Speaker 1: Of course I watch points? Okay, who's your team? The Raiders? Who?
Speaker 1: The Raiders? You got even be a good long time?
Speaker 1: But we got good uniforms. Okay? And what'd that get you?
Speaker 1: You got the prettiest uniform I'm loyal and the sorrys team. Now.
Speaker 1: I was the Raider fan back when Lester Hayes had
Speaker 1: the sticky ship. Yeah yeah, I just think that they
Speaker 1: haven't been good since Lester Hayes had the sticky Still
Speaker 1: still got the best uniforms. What about the players here?
Speaker 1: What's your basketball team? The Knicks? How? Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: how do you talk about you like winners? And you're
Speaker 1: a winner. You are always winning, and you pick the loser,
Speaker 1: the losers or the losers. That's why I'm started my
Speaker 1: own league to be somebody in illegal have to lose.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna have to guess what somebody you'll legal have
Speaker 1: to be the Knicks and the Raiders. But either way,
Speaker 1: but either way I win, doesn't matter who loses. I win.
Speaker 1: I was sick of being a fan, could be an owner.
Speaker 1: When I'm a fan, I can't control anything. So yes,
Speaker 1: the Raiders have bad management, so I would definitely go
Speaker 1: in there and change things. But instead of complaining about it,
Speaker 1: I just start my own Raiders. But I still like
Speaker 1: the uniform and I like the fact what he represented.
Speaker 1: He was an independent owner who he was a maverick.
Speaker 1: That's why I like the Raiders. You consider yourself a maverick?
Speaker 1: Do you not consider than me and every I mean
Speaker 1: you you? You did things your way. I still do.
Speaker 1: I'm not Frank Sinatra. M I'm still doing it my way.
Speaker 1: Or you didn't do it your way, You're doing it
Speaker 1: your way. You get it clearly now, Yeah, right, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you. I appreciate you. How many little how many
Speaker 1: you have? CJ five No, let's say a bottom, how
Speaker 1: many did you have? You should have? Still the same?
Speaker 1: Let me find out this is iced tea? No, no
Speaker 1: day iced tea all my life and grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Sac Fice hustle back price on a slice, got the
Speaker 1: bron the dice, swap all my life. I've been grinding
Speaker 1: all my life, all my life, and grinding all my life.
Speaker 1: Sacrifice hustle bade the price. Want to slice, not the brawler.
Speaker 1: Dice to swap all my life. I've been running all
Speaker 1: my life