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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by a hard

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Speaker 1: This is the betting show that makes the squar sharper

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Speaker 1: and makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by my co host, my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: my compadre, professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, So I'm in Chad.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, listen, I know you're feeling it rough, rough

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Speaker 1: beat for the Cardinals, which you were heavily invested in.

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Speaker 1: I'm out a survivor because I had the Rams in

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Speaker 1: one pool and the Cardinals in another. We're going to

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Speaker 1: dig into all of it. We had a lot of

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Speaker 1: consternation and debate on this morning's show, accusations of me

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Speaker 1: being immature, being nutless. You were not very nice to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to chuck that up to you just being

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Speaker 1: upset about going to see the Phillies last night. The

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Speaker 1: games we discussed the most this week, but especially today,

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Speaker 1: were betting on the Broncos against the Eagles, betting on

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Speaker 1: the Saints against the Giants, betting on the Panthers against

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, betting on the Commanders against the Chargers, and

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Speaker 1: betting on the Jets against Dallas. All five of those

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Speaker 1: teams were down double figures in four of those cases,

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Speaker 1: down multiple touchdowns at some point. Today, four of them

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Speaker 1: came back to not only cover, but win. None of

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Speaker 1: them were the New York Jets, and only one of

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Speaker 1: them was a team that we put in our final five. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we did put the Jets in our final five. We

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Speaker 1: will get to our early leans and entire review of

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Speaker 1: how we did on all of our picks and your

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Speaker 1: can officially announce. Thanks for the patient stand by all right. Reminder,

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Speaker 1: we had the Rams on Thursday night, so that's already

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Speaker 1: an out. We were going in oh, one to one today,

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Speaker 1: we could be anything from one and four to four

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Speaker 1: and one. Instead, right now we are two and two.

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Speaker 1: We have the Jags plus three and a half tomorrow morning,

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Speaker 1: I mean tomorrow night, remaining. Boy, I wish I had

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Speaker 1: been nutless and not put the Jags in the final five,

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Speaker 1: because man, we probably would have had one of the

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Speaker 1: teams we left out and we'd be sitting here three

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Speaker 1: and two and really happy. Oh, Simon, first game, We're

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Speaker 1: going to spend two minutes on this. Houston Texans Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: It was three and a half in the contest. It

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Speaker 1: could have been thirty seven and a half and we

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Speaker 1: still might have won this game. Closed it Houston minus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. Look, anything you want to say

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Speaker 1: feel like we kind of nailed this one. You had

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Speaker 1: it at Simon says, at three and a half earlier

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Speaker 1: early in the week, and it was no mystery.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I wish I could be happier. Simon says too. And

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Speaker 3: oh but I'm legit dead inside. This is going to

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Speaker 3: be a painful podcast.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about it right now, because I don't

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Speaker 1: like otherwise, You're just going to be, you know, challenging

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Speaker 1: to communicate with. And people are going to wonder why.

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Speaker 1: People are going to wonder why.

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Speaker 2: I wonder why I'm dead right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, explain because the.

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Speaker 2: Fix was in.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe what I just watched that Cardinals game.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if I can. I don't know

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Speaker 3: The running back for the Cardinals, he dropped the ball

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Speaker 2: What was it it was gonna I think it was

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Speaker 3: They're gonna score that touchdown, so I've been twenty eight

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Speaker 3: just losers, top to up the bottom, embarrassing organization. Game Ward,

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Speaker 3: Just I can't believe the organization.

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Speaker 3: I would, I would literally release him today. Just guy

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Speaker 2: They're just the worst. So yeah, I'm hurting right now.

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Speaker 1: It's not fair.

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Speaker 2: It's not fair.

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Speaker 1: The Titans have been a conundrum for us for the

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Speaker 1: past year and now five weeks, where we've either avoided them,

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Speaker 1: occasionally bet them, but generally try to avoid them. We

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Speaker 1: we really didn't think it was going to turn this week.

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Speaker 1: Who knows if it's because Callahan stopped calling the plays.

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Speaker 1: Who knows if it's because they went into Arizona, which

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Speaker 1: leaves a gaping hole in any lead that is bigger

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Speaker 1: ever bet on Kyler as a favorite. We thought we

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Speaker 1: as a big favorite. I know you're feeling it for

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Speaker 1: reasons that have to do with betting and not just

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Speaker 1: I left it on Seattle, which was amazing, and I

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Speaker 1: it a game, crazy, crazy day of football for them.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals organization, you are losers. Fold don't exist anymore.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow. I hope I wake up tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: They said, yep, thirty one teams NFL Arizona literally folded overnight.

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Speaker 2: Good, let it be done.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till we get our new segment, Who's

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Speaker 1: the Hero of the Week and who's the go to

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Speaker 1: They had seventeen points midway through the second quarter, more

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Speaker 1: the first half. I think the final score was forty

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Speaker 1: The New York Jets were plus two and a half

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but life bet and bad teams. They're a terrible team.

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Speaker 3: I think it's ten to three. It was a b

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Speaker 3: Reese Hall someone, I think it was. He's carrying the

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Speaker 2: Just get the ball.

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Speaker 1: It's like sack sack, they get, they go, they go

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Speaker 3: Punt, Yeah, that gets the ball back. Was it a

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Speaker 1: They had a sixty eight yard draw one one mistackle

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Speaker 1: it was astonishing. How pathetic they.

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Speaker 3: Are, Yeah, I mean not as pathetic as Michael Bidwell,

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Speaker 3: the principal owner of the Arizona Cardinals. Just fold buddy.

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Speaker 3: If you hear this fold up shop, it's over. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a horrible experience. Like you said, we're dead

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Speaker 2: Was from ten to three to three, twenty three to three. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, life betting bad teams at that At that

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Speaker 3: I'm just like me and chat are just overthinking of

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Speaker 3: DA played well enough and yeah, like we said, they're

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Speaker 3: down four starters on the offensive line, didn't matter. Put

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Speaker 1: I think didn't even get any pressure on Death like

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Speaker 1: the Jets did the same exact thing. It was like

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Speaker 1: they're down ten three. They fumbled the ball literally racing

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Speaker 1: Every single drive. They were killing themselves on penalties. They

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Speaker 1: This isn't how Aaron Glenn teaches football. At some point,

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Speaker 1: isn't it like we keep saying the same thing every week?

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Speaker 1: They keep making the same mistakes every week. Mark Shriff

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Speaker 1: Mark Schalare wasn't calling that game. He was calling the

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Speaker 1: some point he says, you've got to master the stuff

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Speaker 1: that takes no talent, And the Jets can't even master

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Speaker 1: the stuff that takes no talent, which is literally standing

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Speaker 1: Or Arizona Cardinals. Maybe maybe they took it. They took

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Speaker 3: No, they got lucky. Let's let's be honest again, That's

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Speaker 3: I think he was three of seven for like seven yards, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's down ten to nothing. But like we talked about

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Speaker 3: They just kept dropping guys. It's crazy, like how bad

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Speaker 2: So it's like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, Herbert, he made plays like every time he did

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Speaker 3: this week, you know, like you said, Simon says. My

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Speaker 2: Just like the Jets. People are gonna shit on us.

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Speaker 2: It's no different.

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Speaker 3: They're playing a number in a spot against a team

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Speaker 1: Today, especially the two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's why I like, you know, twenty seven

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Speaker 3: But the public is going to react to this now,

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Speaker 3: But people understand, I've been betting this thing for seven

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Speaker 2: Well, everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Is in the world you talk to in my little

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So what was interesting about the Commanders to me was,

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Speaker 1: And they talked about it, like even on the broadcast.

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Speaker 3: Everything was going wrong, like you said, just Herbert kept

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Speaker 3: once again bad luck pressure that probably wouldn't be facing

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Speaker 2: But we try not to read too much into it.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, this was uh, I really really, like you said,

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Speaker 2: Just the Chargers are not the same team they were

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Speaker 3: It's just a a batter team just trying to survive

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Speaker 1: Well, look, you saw at some point in the second

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Speaker 1: It's just a question of would we have replaced the

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, my view of it was that

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Speaker 2: I hope it's gonna come through. My initial read was

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Speaker 1: Well, let's be confident together. We left out Denver. Denver

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Speaker 1: money coming in, not thinking it was just public money

435
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: at least that's the indication I got, and.

436
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: So just a bon Nicks then, yeah, it was I

437
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: love the spot. I loved the number.

438
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: We've been talking about faiding this Eagles team that just

439
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: something's not right with them. Offensively, They're a little over

440
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 3: value in the market. And yeah, another game where I

441
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: think they, like you said, double digit they're seventeen to three.

442
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah in the fourth quarter.

443
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, in their history, in their history, By the way,

444
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 1: I think there was a stat that Denver Broncos in

445
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: their history went down four touchdown, two touchdowns to start

446
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, one and one hundred and twenty one.

447
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: It's a wonky day. I know, it's it's just a

448
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: wild day. And that's why I like, again, wish we

449
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 3: are three and two, Senior two and two. I'm still

450
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: still happy with that. Just just keep surviving.

451
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't want to gloss over this

452
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: one thing with the guess who is zero to twenty

453
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: four when playing a team that scores twenty one points

454
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: or more?

455
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: Justin fields, justin.

456
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: Fields we had talked. I felt like this was the

457
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: Eagles game where everything that had been going their way

458
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: and masking all of the issues they've had finally sort

459
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: of came to roost against a Broncos defense that really

460
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: kept this team in the game the entire game right

461
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: because like starting the second half with a wheel route

462
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 1: touchdown to Saquon, it looked like the Eagles were just

463
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: going to start rolling because they had played okay in

464
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: the first half, but all of the luck that had

465
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 1: gone their way completely evaporate evaporator, and that was especially

466
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: true in the very end, I thought in the second half,

467
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: they went five plays after the touchdown, five plays twenty

468
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: three yards punt, three plays minus a eleven yards punt,

469
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: three plays minus six yards punt, three plays two yards punt.

470
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: Peyton put bon Nicks in fantastic positions like easy throws,

471
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: not risky throws, mostly short throws, long drives, six plays

472
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: seventy two yards, eleven plays fifty yards. They kind of

473
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 1: dinked and dunked, but it helped that the Eagles kept

474
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: committing penalties and the luck definitely caught up to the Broncos.

475
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: The Eagles had a great call to complete a long

476
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: pass downfield to DeVante Smith called back for a legal

477
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: shift fifteen total yards of offense in the fourth quarter,

478
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: a clear intentional grounding that wasn't called on Bonnicks to

479
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: keep a drop alive. Like it all went bad for

480
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles in that fourth quarter.

481
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that was a bad game. Painful to watch

482
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: too as an Eagles fan. But something's just not right

483
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 3: with I think he had six carries for thirty yards,

484
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: and it's like, there's no excuse if you're up seventy

485
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: seventeen to three heading into the fourth quarter and he

486
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 3: only has six carries. So yeah, injuries to the offensive line,

487
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 3: and you know, I thought her it's actually played pretty well.

488
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: Obviously disappeared in the second half, but like you just

489
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 3: read the stats, like they just were not in sync,

490
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 3: couldn't get in a rhythm, and they had dumb penalties.

491
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: So Eagles media will probably be wearried.

492
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: As a fan, don't care it's October fifth, Okay, they

493
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: lost to Denver if it was December fifteenth. In our

494
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: offense is still putting up a pedestrian seventeen points at

495
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: home against that Denver defense, which they were passing the

496
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: ball at will against them to start the game. There'll

497
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: be major issues. But I think you know the OC,

498
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: if this continues, he'll be fired. It's a guy that

499
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 3: has no he's got nothing to back him. He's he's

500
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: a friend of the head coach that took a stand,

501
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: gave him a good job, and you know, there again

502
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: it's not working right now, but I still think it's

503
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 3: too early. So yeah, sucks still lose that game, but

504
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 3: honestly more excited about my Cowboys divisional bet, which was

505
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: dead and now has just a hint of life because

506
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 3: the Eagles they could have some serious problems going forward

507
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: where Dallas they have an easier schedule, they can win

508
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 3: some of these ugly games like they have, so I would,

509
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 3: says an Eagles fans, probably the only really worry right now,

510
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: But overall, I think, you know, once they get Saquon right,

511
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: that offensive line right, they'll be fine come late December.

512
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a look. The Eagles heading into the day

513
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: were twenty and one in their past twenty one games,

514
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: including the playoffs. They are a team that will figure

515
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: it out. They've got all the pieces. There's clearly something

516
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: that clicking right now with the offense, and it caught

517
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: up to them today and now they can sort of

518
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: they have to walk away. They have to be intellectually

519
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: honest about what's been happening, and they can't sort of

520
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: rely on, oh, we just fixed this, we just fix that.

521
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: They're not doing well, the luck ran out. Now they

522
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: need to figure out. Okay, how can we actually get

523
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: back to executing getting Saquon in the game being offensively

524
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: minded not offensive? Do you like that? I'm just trying

525
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: to make a smile. I like, I can sense have

526
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: done for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Well, not

527
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: the fact, not the first time I heard that. Listen,

528
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Miami Carolina, we won that one. Rico Dowdall two hundred

529
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: and six yards one hundred and seventy yards on the

530
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: right side, no kidding. So Miami just cratered, like they

531
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: stopped scoring for basically two and a half quarters, and

532
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: then they gave Bryce Young a chance to Bryce Young

533
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: and come back and win this game. And it was glorious.

534
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: It was everything that's great about Bryce Young and why

535
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: we love betting them when we actually decided to bet

536
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: him in the exact right spot, which we're only doing

537
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: imprudent and thoughtful ways when we're betting the Carolina Panthers.

538
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I was cursing his name. I won't lie

539
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: when it's seventeen to nothing.

540
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: It's like I shouldn't known, should have known not to

541
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: back price here. But yeah, like you said, he definitely

542
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: came back and made the throws, but this was a

543
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 3: Miami loss seventy nothing. Waller, I don't get it, Like

544
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: this guy comes back, he looks like an all pro

545
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: tight end. He's getting whatever he wants. That's why they're

546
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: up seventy to nothing. Then they just go away from him.

547
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 3: Very bizarre game plan in the second half by Miami.

548
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, Panthers won this game by Miami, like most

549
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: of these teams, like the Eagles too, Like these teams

550
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: lose these games. Like so Miami tough, tough loss, but

551
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: you know they know the deal. They're a bad team,

552
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Like they just their secondary. There was a point there

553
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: where they're saying these guys' names and their secondary. It's

554
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: like I've never even heard of these guys, which is

555
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: just brutal because it's like I don't even hear them

556
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: coming out of college. So yeah, you know, Miami, not

557
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 3: that they needed this win, but it felt like their

558
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: coach did where it's like, if you can string together

559
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: a couple wins, maybe his job will be all little

560
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: safe because they do have an easy schedule. But you

561
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: look at it, go, well, they're easy schedule. They're part

562
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: of that easy schedule for other teams. They're just a

563
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: bad team. So yeah, another game that we we should

564
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: have more confident on. But it was never gonna be

565
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: on my five favorite bets this week.

566
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Well not when we had the New Orleans Saints minus

567
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: one and a half staring us in the face and

568
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: the line jumped to two and a half before kickoff,

569
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: so we were still getting a good number. As you said,

570
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: we were leaking confidence. I was leaking confidence because it's

571
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler and it's the Saints as a favorite, even

572
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: though from the beginning a week ago this time, I'm like,

573
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: why are we not going to bet the Saints as underdogs?

574
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: And then they became short favorites when Jackson Dart has

575
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: played one game and look, Jackson Dart proved to be

576
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: a rookie. Like they got up fourteen to nothing, and

577
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: then the Saints like they kept fighting, they kept fighting,

578
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: they kept fighting. Jackson Dark looked really good for about

579
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of this game, maybe twenty minutes of this game,

580
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like the Saints did

581
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: what they've been doing all year. They just kept themselves

582
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: quietly in the game, and then they just freaking dominated

583
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: and truly turned Jackson Dart into a pumpkin again.

584
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, like you said, Jackson Dart actually didn't

585
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: play terribly, Like there's if you're a giantsman, they still

586
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: think there's things to be excited about with this team.

587
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: But you saw that, you know he's going to make

588
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 3: those really really stupid mistakes like.

589
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: That that fumble.

590
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that fumble just.

591
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: Totally shifted that game and was so inexcusable. But another

592
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 3: game that you know, I think they were down fourteen

593
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 3: to three or fourteen six and Spenser Raller, like we talked,

594
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it when I dove into the numbers

595
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: and like saw that he was a lot of websites

596
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: had him great as like the eighteenth seventeenth about the

597
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: quarterback in football, which again I know that's not crazy high,

598
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: but the NFL is so hard right right, It's like

599
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that. It's like, oh my god, Kellen

600
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: Moore is making this work. I saw that there's a

601
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: little a little bit underrated potential on the Saints team,

602
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: but didn't see that coming. They they blew them out

603
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: in the second half, really dominated them, and yeah, twenty

604
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: six fourteen I think was the final score. So another

605
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: game when it finished, relief, happy it hit, but like you,

606
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, probably should have stuck to it

607
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 3: heading the contest. That was a stressful game, but also

608
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: a unique spot, no brainer type of bet where like

609
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: we said they were, they looked like they were more desperate,

610
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: and they looked like they had a quarterback that's taken

611
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, was at his tenth start. So again I

612
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: didn't want any of the previous ten. Finally won this one,

613
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: and yeah, now we can go back to the Saints

614
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: being big dogs and get them at a good number.

615
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: So look, Jackson Dart the first couple series nine of

616
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: twelve for seventy five yards, two touchdowns. Saints are down

617
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: fourteen to six. The rest of the game he had

618
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five yards and two picks, and

619
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: that included when they were down and having to throw

620
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: the ball and a sort of runaway win that started

621
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: with Jackson Dart basically just the ball slipping out of

622
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: his hand on a fumble to start the second half.

623
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: And that's when they all started to look like rookies.

624
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: Right.

625
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: As excited as everybody is about Cam Skataboo and Jackson Dart.

626
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: They're missing moleik neighbors. They don't really have they don't

627
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: have offensive weapons. You can't put literally the game in

628
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: the hands of two rookies and expect to come out

629
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: and not lose leads. They both fumbled and they both

630
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: led to mistakes that were killers and from to the

631
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: final score and putting the Saints over the top and

632
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: give him the win. Good for Spencer Ratland, including his

633
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: eighty seven yard touchdown pass, so really great. Just loved

634
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: it that one, Like, even though we didn't have it

635
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 1: in I was just glad because we I know how

636
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: much you bet it. I know how much I bet it,

637
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: So loved it totally.

638
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 2: Like Spencer or Baker, like two qbs today.

639
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: That really showed up in a big way for me

640
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: betting wise, And I'm sure they're fan base for the

641
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: same way of like they probably shouldn't have won the

642
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 3: way they did and both teams, Yeah, had incredible quarterback playing.

643
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: Again, Spencer made some big time.

644
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 3: Throws, so yeah, like that's that's got to feel pretty

645
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 3: good that you know this kid keeps approving Yeah, because

646
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 3: he hears the noise they're tanking for whatever it was

647
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: Arch Manning week ones like think how stupid that sounds

648
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: now looking back? I know right, it's it's a unique

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Speaker 1: and Virginia. All right, simon, I know I know who

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Speaker 1: your shame on you is. Before we get to yours,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna name a couple, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you my ultimate answer. Okay, before we get

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Speaker 1: to yours.

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Speaker 2: That side, same, same, same one.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna give it to Terry and Arnold Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lyons cornerback who every week has some pass interference or

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Speaker 1: defensive hole and call only today it happened to come

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Speaker 1: Jake Browning two plays later threw a touchdown or through

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Speaker 1: an interception, so he does not get to be shamed, shamed, shamed.

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Speaker 1: I was going to give it to Cliff Kingsbury because

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Speaker 1: when the Commanders were buried in their own half of

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Speaker 1: the field, just outside their end zone at the end

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Speaker 1: of the first half, instead of running the ball when

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball, which led to the punt from

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Speaker 1: the back of the end zone that was returned by

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Speaker 1: Lad McConkey. Only they got lucky because of the roughing

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Speaker 1: the punter and then Ja Daniels bailed everybody out with

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Speaker 1: these brilliant throws to Luke McCaffrey and Deebo Samuel. Are

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Speaker 1: you ready? Are you ready for my absolute shame, shame,

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Speaker 1: shame of the week?

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Speaker 3: What are the rules there? I feel like you've just

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Speaker 3: given out six shames.

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Speaker 1: No, no, these were what could have been, but they

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Speaker 1: were they were bailed out. I'm giving you a shame

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Speaker 1: that that was not bailed out. The Jets entire defense.

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Speaker 1: You alluded to it earlier, okay, in the sort of

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Speaker 1: sandwich touchdowns between the Jets in aptitude on offense, this

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Speaker 1: is what it would look like for the Jets. With

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Speaker 1: forty one seconds left in the half, the Jets gave

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Speaker 1: up a sixty eight yard draft of Devonte Williams. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys scored a play later. Combine that with the drive

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Speaker 1: just prior for the Cowboys, which started with two minutes

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Speaker 1: left from their own ten yard line. They got down

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Speaker 1: the field in sixty three seconds and scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: The fourteen points the Cowboys scored on the woeful Jets,

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Speaker 1: they're not even trying defense in one minute, thirty five

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Speaker 1: seconds and they gained one hundred and forty three yards.

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Speaker 1: That was There was no coaching, There was no trying,

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Speaker 1: There was no fire, There was no strategy, there was

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Speaker 1: no effort, there was no thinking, there was no there

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00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: was no consequences, there was no understanding of what they

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Speaker 1: were facing. There was just quit, plain, old quit by

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. That shame, shame, shame. It's hard

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Speaker 1: for me to know where you're going.

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Speaker 2: To go with this.

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Speaker 3: I'll just be quick Arizona. Shame get him out of

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Speaker 3: my country. They let them become the I don't even

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Speaker 3: know she was senting to Mexico to be in Mexico's city. Cardinals,

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Speaker 3: just get it. I'm out of America. They no longer

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00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: they should shouldn't be here. I just can't get over

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00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: how bad that game was, and then of fishing NFL

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Speaker 3: officiating in that game.

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Speaker 2: Shame, just the whole thing. It's shame, shame, shame.

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Speaker 1: Now, I get it. I feel for your brother, I do.

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Speaker 1: I know you can't. You can barely pontificate on this one.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a chance to find some

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Speaker 1: joy in the week because I do have a hero,

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Speaker 1: someone who pulled victory for us from the jaws or defeat,

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Speaker 1: someone who made it so we could be two and

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Speaker 1: two with the handwringing. And it's a consternation that we

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Speaker 1: have when we go into these weeks. I thought about

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Speaker 1: Rico Dowdell game two hundred and six yards. I thought

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Speaker 1: about Spencer Rattler, who got his first ever win. But

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Kwan Martin. Do you know who that is?

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Speaker 2: Have you ever hit the Kwan? Well?

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Speaker 1: Kwan hit the Quan today because the Washington Commander's Safety

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Speaker 1: forced Quentin Johnston's fumble in Commander's territory that there was

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Speaker 1: no doubt the charges were going to go up seventeen

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Speaker 1: to nothing in that game, and then it was basically

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Speaker 1: a dead bet. And then we're basically one and three

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Speaker 1: on the day. And instead of having like every game

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Speaker 1: that we won, you mentioned you know you're eleven and

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Speaker 1: two on your sides for the day. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: like six and one on my sides for the day.

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Speaker 1: The only game I lost the New York Jets, and

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Speaker 1: it would have been much much uglier if Kwan Martin

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Speaker 1: had 'en forced that fumble to get the Commanders back

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Speaker 1: on the road to victory. Yay Kwan.

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Speaker 3: My ear of the day will be my mother. Today's

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Speaker 3: your birthday. Come on, love your mom, shout out, toll

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Speaker 3: them moms.

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Speaker 1: Ah, that's beautiful, that's nice to you.

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Speaker 2: I'm you'n.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad your mom doesn't listen to the podcast. I

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Speaker 1: put out a link, and I'm hoping your mom, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know she doesn't feel that way about you at all.

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get to some let's let's do

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Speaker 1: some comments really quickly, because we do have some people

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Speaker 1: basically feeling the same way as you. Uh. Bigness wants

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Speaker 1: to know. Should we make the Cardinals stay in the

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Speaker 1: field so everyone can throw trash at them until they

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Speaker 1: get too tired to continue.

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Speaker 2: No, it's too nice. You gotta get We should get

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Speaker 2: her about there.

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Speaker 3: Make them scape from blue line to blue line and

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Speaker 3: they keep asking what team they play for. There's bitches

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Speaker 3: bring out bringing the ice.

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Speaker 2: Sick of them, everybody on that line. Somebody's going to

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Speaker 2: get hurt again.

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Speaker 1: I've actually never seen you react like this. You're always like,

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Speaker 1: it's just betting, it's just football, trying to be a professional.

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Speaker 1: Remember this. It wasn't even like twelve hours ago when

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Speaker 3: I called you an amateur, but you were being immature

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Speaker 3: as well. I'm glad you agree.

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Speaker 1: Oh amateur? Yeah, well I thought it was immature. It

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Speaker 1: was the filly in you. Here's a question from Donald

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Speaker 1: what I think is important. We talk a lot about

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Speaker 1: late money. Why do we care so much about late money?

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Speaker 3: Well, mister President, it's a big deal. All right, don

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Speaker 3: the late money to me scares me. It's good in

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Speaker 3: some ways, but in a lot of ways it scares

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Speaker 3: me because it's the dopey public play the pros. Almost

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Speaker 3: all my work is done by five am. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm still doing stupid shit and betting on info because

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Speaker 3: I can't help my self.

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Speaker 2: I'm a degenerate.

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Speaker 3: But that money today that came in that late on

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Speaker 3: the jets, that's people following the wave, and the bookmaker

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Speaker 3: is having to move that line to adjust to it

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Speaker 3: because you know, schefter puts out a tweet or whoever

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Speaker 3: it was. Of all these guys that are out, they

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Speaker 3: have to protect themselves against it because that's some real

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Speaker 3: money coming in. Some legit pros might come in and

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Speaker 3: they might like that side. But yeah, for me, the

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Speaker 3: most interesting part of the lines that don't move like

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Speaker 3: that Commander's line sitting at two and a half all

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Speaker 3: week at two of the most public books in America.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty telling usually, So that stuff's more what I'm

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Speaker 3: looking for when I see the pros or the books

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Speaker 3: are holding on a line. And you know, like I

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Speaker 3: always say, certain books will move a half a point

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Speaker 3: on a ten thousand dollars bet from respected better and

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Speaker 3: they won't budge on ten million dollars from the public,

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Speaker 3: So that stuff really doesn't matter. So I hope people

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Speaker 3: know we're just not talking of our asses. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff, you know, when you hear and you

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Speaker 3: see going on, that dictates where that money is going

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Speaker 3: and why it's moving the numbers the way it is.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some early leans for next week.

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Speaker 1: I know you're sick to your stomach. You probably don't

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Speaker 1: even want to think about having to it.

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Speaker 2: All looks horrible to you. I'm just like, all I

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Speaker 2: see is pain. This is so good, I can keep going.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what sucks. It's like, we had a

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Speaker 2: great week, We're freaking two and two. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, we got the Jacks tomorrow night, and so

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Speaker 1: who's who's ever felt bad betting the Jags at plus

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00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: three and a half at home? Gauge is saying, shouldn't

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Speaker 1: Seattle plus one be a must bet next week? They're

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Speaker 1: actually at the Jags one point underdogs someplaces one and

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Speaker 1: a half at the jack Seattle. Any thoughts on that yet?

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Speaker 2: I agree?

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Speaker 1: Is it terrible of me to say, oh my god. Look,

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns are four and a half point underdogs

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Speaker 1: on the road at the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if there's

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Speaker 1: ever been a time you want to fade the Pittsburgh Steelers,

863
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: it's when they are favorites at home in the division

864
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: against the Cleveland Browns.

865
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: Interesting line, it's plus five right now at hard Rock,

866
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: and I agree, I can't believe it's that inflated. Maybe

867
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 3: it's the I'm sure Evan have some amazing trends. Maybe

868
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 3: it's the whole no rest traveling back from England could

869
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 3: play a game on the road against a team that's

870
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: coming off of bye week. There must be something because

871
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: that why is that not three and a half?

872
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: Like it should be three based on everything right, it

873
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: should be division.

874
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: So I agree with that early read. I'll grab the

875
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 3: plus five, But there's definitely something fishy going on with

876
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: that game.

877
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: How big is too big for the Cincinnati Bengals. They

878
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: are fourteen and a half point underdogs on the road

879
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: against the rested Green Bay Packers.

880
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: In another life that was going to be the survivor

881
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 3: pick green Bay. I don't know, Chad, You're the one

882
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: that keeps believing in this guy, what's his name, Browning.

883
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Jake Browning. I kind of lost my faith today too

884
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: many times, too many times. He was throwing too many

885
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: bad passes from the back of the end zone.

886
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: I know, like a four weeks to figure that out.

887
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: It's a team putting them in a bad spot. But

888
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: geez Louise, like Jamar Chase is getting frustrated. I know,

889
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: he made a great cash today from the touchdown, and

890
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: they tried, they tried to make it close. But this

891
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: team is this team, and so to me, it's sort

892
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: of a pass. They're becoming the Tennessee Titans. For me,

893
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to bet against them. But I don't think

894
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: I can bet on no matter what the number is.

895
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: And I know, I mean.

896
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: I know if I'm betting against a trend that's twenty

897
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: and one, which is exactly what I did ben against

898
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: the Bengals today. You know, it's a train wreck right

899
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: now for them because it's like they were in the

900
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 3: spot of spots and still didn't matter. They're just absolutely

901
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 3: terrible in every facet of the game right now.

902
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Listen, the Arizona Cardinals are plus five and a half

903
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: at Indianapolis next week. We know Kyler is great when

904
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: he's on the road too soon.

905
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's this land line will be taken down.

906
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: The Colts are lucky they have a bye week now

907
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 3: because Cardinals won't exist, So it doesn't matter.

908
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 2: No, that was the only other game I got a

909
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: little pissed off at you about was the Colts.

910
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: How do we not? How do we miss that one?

911
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 3: Where it's like I love that game, we were bet

912
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: into it. This feels like another Colt spot. The Colts

913
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 3: are a good team and their biggest shit and they

914
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: push their weight around and if you make mistakes like

915
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: Kyler should, this is a bad spot. So I think

916
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 3: Kyler left for a minute because he had a foot injury.

917
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: My early position hard rock right now in Jersey's minus

918
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 3: five on the Colts super public line. I'll take it

919
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 3: because if he's out, if Murray is and it's tru Kobe,

920
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 3: I don't even remember who their backup was. I know

921
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: he came in the game. It's bad. Like that's a

922
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: really bad spot. For as much should I want to give.

923
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: Kyler still a great athlete, and he could give problems

924
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: to the Colts. Jacoby Brissett could not give those problems

925
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 3: that guy's a statue. So, yeah, this is an interesting number.

926
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the early nine with the public on

927
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: the Colts minus five.

928
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: All right, So Colts is one, We're looking at Cleveland

929
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: is one. We're looking at Cleveland plus four and a

930
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: half on the road at Pittsburgh Seattle is interesting. We

931
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: don't know enough yet about Jacksonville.

932
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 3: The tuppiest line right now, there's two insanely traffic lines,

933
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: which one Tampa is minus three right now at home

934
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers.

935
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: What is that number? What are we doing here?

936
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: Why are we not putting our life savings on Baker

937
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 3: and the books at home minus three? Like lightning striking

938
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 3: twice for mac Jones, He's gonna go on the road

939
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 3: and beat Well.

940
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: Do we know that brock Purty isn't playing next week?

941
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: I'd be shocked.

942
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: That's what that lines. That's what that line says to me,

943
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: is that, Yeah, that's.

944
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: A weird number to open that.

945
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 3: And Chiefs Detroit it's opened right now, hard Rock minus

946
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 3: one of the Chiefs. That will be the biggest public

947
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 3: dog of the year, not even close to any other

948
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: side every hammering Detroit. Yeah, yeah, they're the to me,

949
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: people are gona haveing Pirrect is the number one team

950
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: of football right now. That's sports media cannot wait to

951
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 3: thrown the Eagles and put the lines up at number

952
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 3: one and just say week one was a fluke. They've

953
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 3: dominated three straight weeks. So yeah, that's a that's a game.

954
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 3: I'm circling right now. Where it's like, I want to

955
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 3: bet Detroit as a dog right now, just in case

956
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: the Chiefs do lose like they think, we think there's a.

957
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 2: Possibility they can lose tomorrow night.

958
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: Why not take Detroit Chiefs lose, we get Chiefs plus

959
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 3: two and a half. Maybe we can find the middle.

960
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 3: But I'd rather be on the Chiefs of the dog

961
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 3: opening the Chiefs right now favorite. I wouldn't be the

962
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 3: Chiefs a favorite right now.

963
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm just gonna wait and see

964
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: what happens, because i'd rather have the chance just to

965
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: bet the Chiefs. I don't know, like.

966
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 3: Tomorrow, there's no chance this gets up two. There's no

967
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: world the Chiefs are minus two. If they are. If

968
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 3: the Chiefs are minus two and a half, good for us. Yeah,

969
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 3: guarantee they're in our contest next week. Right, So I

970
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: just came to the Chiefs move more of a favorite.

971
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 3: I think this is a this is a dog line

972
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: for Detroit to bet right now, all.

973
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: Right, so we're going to dig in a little bit

974
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: more deeper. On Tuesday, quickly review, Simon says was Ravens

975
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: plus three and a half and Commanders plus two and

976
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 1: a half. We did two this week because the line

977
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: had moved so much on the Ravens. Chad loves the

978
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: Jags plus three and a half. Brass balls Jets plus two.

979
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: And a half.

980
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: Lost that one rock and a hard place. We had

981
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Eagles. We liked the Broncos. It

982
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: was a tough call, sharp versus square. This isn't going

983
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: to cheer you up. But you had the Saints and

984
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: the Jets. Our favorite are our favorite parlay meaning betting

985
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: on the betting and parlay on the faves. We had

986
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals no Bills we don't know yet, Lions yes,

987
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks no Colts yes. So not a lot of winners

988
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: out of that one underdog parlay. Panthers yes, Jets no

989
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: Commanders yes, Jags don't know Browns. So got one more

990
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: shot with the Jacks to pair a couple of winners.

991
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: Survivor was the Arizona Cardinals. We are dead final review.

992
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: We had the Rams on Thursday night, lost it. We

993
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: had the Jets today lost. We won with the Texans.

994
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: We won with the Commanders. We've got the Jags plus

995
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: three and a half remaining tomorrow night. This has been

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