1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Man, I circle around a lot of 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: people and everybody's so busy. That's the main problem with 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: the Darryl's House show. They got schedules, you know, and 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: it's hard for them to come up to state New 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: York or Connecticut. It's a logistical difficulty, and that's the 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: main thing. So I don't really plan too much ahead. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: I see who's available at the time and just pick somebody. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: No deeper than that. Really. 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Taking a Walk podcast, where your host 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Buzz Night talks with legends from music business today. Buzz 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: is joined by Daryl Hall, half of the hit making 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: duo Hall and Outs. Darryl is the star of the 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: award winning series Live from Darryl's House. He was inducted 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in twenty fourteen, 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: and he's responsible for numerous top ten hits on the 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: Billboard Hot one hundred and other charts. He's a multi 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: Grammy winner and nominee. Darrel is also known for numerous 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: charitable contributions and activities, including his work with the United 19 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Way and other organizations, and he has a new music 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: project out as well. Let's welcome Daryl Hall as he 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: joins Buzz Night. Next, on taking a walk. 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Darryl, welcome to taking a walk. I'm so excited. 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Ah, okay, nice to be here. 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so fantastic. Listen. Congratulations on creating in 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: so many forms these days. You're creating new music, which 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: we'll talk about, You're creating with your show, which we're 27 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: going to get into as well. You're out on the 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: road as well. Do you ever sit idle? 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: I have an off mode and I and I use 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: it and I'm you know, I'm just to call me 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: an avid reader is an understatement, and I just turn 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: it off, sit there and read whatever I'm reading. And 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: that's the end of that, you know. And I have 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the ability to do that. If I didn't have that, 35 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: it would it would not be good because I'm really busy. 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: I have so many things going on at once that 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: that's the only way I can sort of balance it out. 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: Is there a part of your work that you enjoy 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: the most? 40 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, the part well, the two things I actually 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: have equal joy. And what doing the Daryl's House show 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: is an unbelievable experience. It's like hours of I don't 43 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: know how, like high energy ecstasy kind of feelings. You 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: know where things are just going and you have no 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: idea what's happening or what's going to happen or and 46 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: it's all seat of the pants, you know, there's no 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: there's no rehearsals, no nothing. And so that is very 48 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: very stimulating to say the least. That's that and and 49 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: equally is like when I'm working in the studio with 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: somebody like Dave Stewart, my friend Dave. There's a certain 51 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: kind of energy that goes down that is really hard 52 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: to describe when something's making something out of nothing. And 53 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I think I would equally rank those as like the 54 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: top of the top of my list of excitement. 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: So let's talk about your latest music first. The collaboration 56 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: wasn't the first time that you and Dave Stewart had 57 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: worked together, but tell me about how great it is 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: working with him. 59 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Dave and I have a very unique relationship creatively and personally. 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: I've known Dave since the mid eighties. We started working 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: together back then, and we have never really gone apart 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: for very long. We do things together, we know each other. 63 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: We literally live around the corner from each other down 64 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: in the Bahamas. He's just he's he's like my best friend, 65 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: you know kind of thing. And uh, and we we 66 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: have an amazing creative relationship. I mean it's intuitive when 67 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: whenever I get together with him, I feel alive and 68 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and he he stimulates me in ways that I don't 69 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: know anybody else could do musically and creatively. 70 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: I think he's one of the most underrated musicians out 71 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: there in my opinion. 72 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's he's beyond well. I to call him underrated, 73 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, because that's it's it's a denigration that 74 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. He's he's he's all over the place. 75 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: This man is a powerhouse of ideas and projects. He's 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: got a million things going on at once. And uh, 77 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: music is only one of those things. And and he's 78 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: he's he's just his mind. To say his mind is 79 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: fertile as a boy, well, it certainly is. 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 3: How would you characterize the the sound of this this 81 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 3: new music that you've created. 82 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if I could. I don't know. 83 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: It's me, it's it's that's I called it D because 84 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: that's my name, you know, That's that's what people call 85 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: me my friends. And uh, I think it's really personal 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: and and nobody but Dave could have could have brought 87 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: that out, and uh, it's it's it's something that's unique 88 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: to me. I mean, I wasn't channeling anybody. I was 89 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: channeling myself, my own past and my own emotions and 90 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: my own experiences. So I don't know how you characterize that. 91 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: It's Daryl music. 92 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: That's the best part, right that, It's just it's all 93 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: it's all you. It's authentic Daryl. 94 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. 95 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: So let's play a little word association game. You can 96 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: go first, or I can go first. But one word 97 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: what one word describes Daryl's house? 98 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Electric? 99 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: I would agree, but I the first one for me, 100 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: and I've been going through this in my head prior 101 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: to talking to you. 102 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: Joyous. Oh yeah, okay, that's that's a good word too. 103 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things. It's a million things. 104 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: I mean, from the first time that I saw the 105 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: show and the way it's evolved every time I watch it. 106 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 3: It's joyous, it's electric, it's wonderful. 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's the idea. That's that's what I try 108 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: and convey and that's what well, I don't have to 109 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: convey it, it just conveys itself. Uh, it's not just me, 110 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: it's the band, it's everybody. We're all, like I said before, 111 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: we're all doing this for the first time. It's just 112 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: like boom, out of nowhere. We have this. There's sometimes 113 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: a stranger as a guest a lot of times, and 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: we're making something happen that that even surprises the guests, 115 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: you know, because it comes out differently than they ever expected. 116 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: How important when you started the show was the ability 117 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: to have creative freedom in terms of how this thing 118 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: would flow. 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: It was essential. I could not ever have done this 120 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: show on a network television situation. This was an Internet show. 121 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: It still remains an Internet show. I've been on TV 122 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: with it, trust Real TV, but its home is really 123 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: the Internet because of the freedom that it requires. You 124 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: cannot have anybody saying you have to do it this way, 125 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: or why don't you change the format or you know. 126 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: I actually when in the very beginning, I'll tell you 127 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: a story. In the very beginning, I did shop it 128 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: around to networks because I thought, okay, you know, it 129 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: was the old days. It was almost twenty years ago, 130 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, maybe this, you know, let's try 131 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: and see if we can get this on TV. And 132 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: I went to all these different program directors and TV 133 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: and you would not have believed the ship that they 134 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: said to me. You know what, My favorite one was, well, 135 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, but you need a contest or something. You 136 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: need a contest at the end. You know, it needs 137 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: to have a payoff. And I'm thinking, what the fuck 138 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: are you talking about? You know, and I got a 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: million stupid things like that said to me. So there 140 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: you go. 141 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: And that created the certainty that you knew this ability 142 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: to control your destiny with it was essential. 143 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: I knew I was doing the right thing by sticking 144 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: and doing the internet thing, which was a real challenge 145 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: in those data because there was no internet shows, it 146 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: didn't exist. It was hard for people to even download it, 147 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: you know it it was they had a weight and 148 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: let you know, let it load up and all this 149 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: kind of crap. 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 4: You know, you created this what I would call kind 151 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 4: of experiential kind intent experiential TV in that you know, 152 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: we the audience, we feel like we're inside your house. 153 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: I mean, you created a new format that I don't 154 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: think really existed before. 155 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: I don't think it did. I think I created made 156 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: something up. And the reason it feels like it was 157 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: in my house is because it was in my house. No, 158 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, I just I went with it. I just 159 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: went with reality. I mean, do you talk about reality shows. 160 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: This is a reality show. I mean it's there's no scripting, 161 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: no nothing, you know, it just happens. 162 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: In the early days of the show, where there any 163 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: sort of odd stories that occurred that you know, we're 164 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: just part of the journey, you know, difficult experiences or 165 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 3: just technical experiences that were unique back then. 166 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: Well, there were you know, yeah, I mean there were 167 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: things nothing major, but you know we it caught it 168 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: snowstorms and things like that, you know, I mean I 169 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: lived up the first house that I had that I 170 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: did most of the shows, the early shows, it was 171 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: it's pretty much on the top of a mountain, and 172 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, as luck would have it, you know, like 173 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: monster snowstorm would come and I'd be trying to get 174 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: Smokey Robinson or somebody like that to get into the house, 175 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: and you know, people were slamming into the garage in 176 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: the ice and you know all that kind of crap. So, 177 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was things like that that 178 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: were really uh, you know, I wouldn't call the problematic, 179 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: but you know, there they were. 180 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: Talk about the role that the late t Bone Wolk 181 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: played in not only the creation co creation of the show, 182 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: but just in general in. 183 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: Your world, well other than Dave, and I would say 184 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: t Bone has was my best friend and and oddly 185 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: the three of us were really close friends and and 186 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: boy it's hard to say I don't we had a 187 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: really close relationship again musically, and I think the vibe 188 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: of the show in the beginning would have been different 189 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: if t Bone wouldn't wouldn't have been involved. I think 190 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: he helped us set the uh, set the stage for 191 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: it all, to set the mood of it because of 192 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: his personality as well. You know, he really really added, 193 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: really added to the to the early shows, to the 194 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: shows that he was that he was around for, and 195 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: his loss was really major. That's all I can say. 196 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: Do you consider yourself kind of a natural born teacher 197 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: to some extent? Because I feel like with the new 198 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: artists that you champion in your career and on the show, 199 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: I sense this deep connection that you have to sort 200 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: of pay it forward to the next generation. Am I 201 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: reading that correctly? 202 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I My mother was a teacher, you know, she 203 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: was a music teacher and an art teacher and the 204 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: idea of teaching and learning. Yeah, I do look at 205 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: myself as a bit of a teacher, And what can 206 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: I say about that? Yes, I do, and I had 207 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: that what's that word? Especially with the new bands, I 208 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: want to bring them in and help them, you know. 209 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I always have that kind of proprietarial feeling toward them, 210 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you know, I want to see them shine and do 211 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: good and all those kind of things. I guess that's 212 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: what a teacher does. 213 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you're rooting for them, and you're 214 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: giving them a little kick along the way, and you're 215 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 3: probably giving them your own dose of reality about the business, 216 00:12:59,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: aren't you. 217 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: Without a doubt. It's always interesting to see how they 218 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: react to these all these veterans that they're thrust into, 219 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, the situation they're thrust into, you know, because 220 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: they're I mean, I've done shows where these kids were like, 221 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, twenty one years old. You know, they walked 222 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: away their guitars and they WHOA, what's going on? You know? 223 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: And you know what it's surprising is they're the ones 224 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: that have seemed to have the least nervousness and self 225 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: consciousness when you get a veteran, somebody who's been doing 226 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: this as long as me and I bring it into 227 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: the situation. They're so uptight it's unbelievable and you have 228 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: to calm them down because they don't know what's going on. 229 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: They're so out of the comfort zone. 230 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: We'll be right back with more the Taking a Walk Podcast. 231 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 232 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: I think Smokey Robinson you just brought up a little 233 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: while ago, and I know Smokey means the world to 234 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 3: you in terms of influence and just you know, everything 235 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: you've taken from him. Talk about what Smokey means and 236 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: talk about how special it was having Smokey on the show. 237 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Well, he was one of those ones, and there was 238 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: only a few of them. Actually, I mean, I was 239 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Smoky was my hero when I was a teenager. I mean, 240 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: he absolutely was. I was a you know, I used 241 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: to I actually met him back then, you know, when 242 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: I was about eighteen, and because I used to hang 243 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: out at the Uptown Theater in Philadelphia, and that's where 244 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: he used to play in Philly. You know, it's kind 245 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: of like the Apollo Theater in New York at places 246 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: like that, and he always treated me from the get go, 247 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: from you know, I was a kid. Well he wasn't 248 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: much older, but he was. He's such a gracious person 249 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: and such a cool guy. And I, I don't know, 250 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: I always go over the years I was would bump 251 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: into to him, and he was always just so natural 252 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: and real with me. And I totally respect his music. 253 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: His music was unbelievable and continues to be. And uh, 254 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: to have him at the house, I couldn't believe it 255 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: actually because it was one of the earlier ones. And 256 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, I'll give it a shot. And I 257 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: called him, I got his number and I called him 258 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: his booky you know, I lived and I'm doing the show. 259 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to you want to come? And he 260 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: went sure, and I was like okay, And he was 261 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: like sitting at the dinner table there with me and 262 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: telling stories with you know, and I'm thinking, wow, I'm 263 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm doing something really unusual here. 264 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: Who are some of the guests that you're currently going 265 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: after that you hope you can secure for the show. 266 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: Can you share one or two? 267 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: No, I because I don't really go after them. It's uh, 268 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I circle around a lot of people and and everybody 269 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: is so busy. That's that's the main problem with the 270 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 1: with the Darryl's House show is that people they got 271 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: they got schedules, you know, and it's hard for them 272 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: to come up to upstate New York or Connecticut. Uh So, 273 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: so anyway that it's it's it's a it's a logistical 274 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: difficulty and that's the main thing. So I don't really 275 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: plan too much ahead. I see who's available at the time, 276 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: and and and just pick somebody and and it's just 277 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: like no deeper than that. 278 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: Really, well, because you've got to balance out touring as well, right, 279 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: I mean yeah. 280 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Because everybody else, you know, there's so many things going on. 281 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: I have to find time to do this. They have 282 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: to find time to do it, and uh yeah like that. 283 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: So the current current tour is with a pretty uh 284 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: interesting gentleman that you're that you're out with these days, 285 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: Elvis Costello. Tell me how special that is. 286 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, that tour actually just finished. I did two months 287 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: with Elvis, and Elvis and I go back again to 288 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: the eighties and we did a record that we did 289 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: a song together back then, and uh, well, there's a 290 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: lot of mutual respect going on between the two of us. 291 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: And and talking about t Bone t Bone for a 292 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: very short period of time, played in Elvis's band and 293 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: did all that kind of thing. So and we know 294 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: we have a lot of mutual friends, Elvis and I 295 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: and and uh, it was it was, it was. It 296 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: was nice to be out there on the road with 297 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: people like like Elvis and his band because they're all 298 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: such friendly guys. We know it well, I don't say 299 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: I know some of them, and I got to know 300 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: them and they're all good people, man. And and that 301 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: means a lot on when you're on the road because 302 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: you're just out there, you know, there's nobody but you 303 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: and and and the people that you're with. It was 304 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: it was a very pleasant ex that's the best way 305 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: to put it. 306 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: And then of course you were out with Todd Runggren 307 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 3: and I know you guys go back talk about your 308 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: relationship with Todd and what he means to you. 309 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: Well, Todd is like one of my oldest, oldest musical friends. 310 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: And I mean I've known Todd since the old my 311 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: Philly days when we grew up at Philadelphia together. We 312 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: really do share a lot of history and I enjoy 313 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: having him on stage with me. 314 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 3: Going back to the Philly days and the great Gamble 315 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 3: and Huff. Can you talk about the experience with Gamble 316 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 3: and Huff and what you learned from them. I'm sure 317 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: you learned a lot from them. 318 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: Did I learn from them? Well, you know to say, actually, 319 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm backtrack on that. Yes, I did learn I learned 320 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: how to play the piano the way I play from 321 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: Leon because I used to just watch him and he 322 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: and I have, in our crazy way, have a kind 323 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: of a similar style. But we we we grew up together. 324 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there were those guys are a couple of 325 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: years older than me, and they had already got started. 326 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: But we were working with the same people in the 327 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: same places. And I was coming up and they they 328 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: grabbed hold of me, and and uh I wound up 329 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: being in their circle of of of of music, you know, 330 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: both in the studio and and and how do I 331 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: put it, I mean I was I was just there 332 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: with them the whole time. And and this was in 333 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: the really good days. This was this was in the 334 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: very beginning when before before the Sound of Philadelphia really 335 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: broke into the world. Uh. And you know, and and 336 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: they were working with bands like the Intruders and and uh, 337 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: and Barbara Mason people like that, and uh and and 338 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: they they dragged me into it, and I was I'm 339 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: made a record with leannak Enny and and that was 340 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the first record I ever made. I was a teenager. 341 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: I worked at Kenny's record store for a while. There's 342 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: so many experiences, you know, so many studio experiences and 343 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: watching ship go down, and and and and and hanging 344 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: out with those people. It was. It was an amazing 345 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: time for music for me, you know, in Philly, and 346 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: I learned, I mean, I became a Philadelphia musician through that. 347 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I do. No matter what kind 348 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: of sound I put out there in the world, it's 349 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: still it's still got Philly soul down in there somewhere. 350 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 1: You know. That's that's my That's that's what I do. 351 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 3: No doubt you were at a moment in UH music history. 352 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you, uh to recall the uh 353 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 3: the We Are the World session. Of course, there was 354 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: the great Doctor mentary recently about that. But Uh, that 355 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 3: must have been like an out of body experience, wasn't it. 356 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: It was a strange experience. I don't know if it 357 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: was out of body, but because it was I've said 358 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: this many times because people have asked me so many 359 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: times about this experience, and I said, because everybody was 360 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: in there, and before you walked in, they said, you're 361 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: the only one allowed in. It's just you. You can't bring 362 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 1: you can't bring your assistant, you can't bring anybody. Right, 363 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: And these people, including myself to some degree, but more 364 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: of them than me, they didn't know how to handle 365 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: that because the people walk around with their entourage. That's 366 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: what people do, That's what musicians do for good reasons, 367 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: by the way, And it made everybody kind of have 368 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: to reevaluate what they were doing and how to deal 369 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: with each other. A lot of people knew each other, 370 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people didn't. And I always say that 371 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: it made everybody feel like they were in the eighth 372 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: grade because it was it suddenly became junior high chorus, 373 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: because that's what everybody could relate to. They could relate 374 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: to mister mister Jones Quincy up there and being the 375 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: being the choral leader, and everybody acted that way, and 376 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: they started getting very childlike and people passing around the 377 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: sheet music for sin autographs and do all this kind 378 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: of stuff, very like high school kind of things. And 379 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: that's that's that was what I took from it the 380 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: whole time. I was really surprised how what the common 381 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: denominator was for all those people at that time. 382 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: Thanks for taking us back to that, My God, tell 383 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: me the best advice you ever got that still resonates 384 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: in your in your head. 385 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: Paul Williams of the Temptations just said to me one time, 386 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: just don't lose your soul whatever you do. And that's 387 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: is that that that that speaks volumes? 388 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 3: Mayeah, that does say it right? 389 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Thank God. 390 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: How do you sort of train for the road. Do 391 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: you go through a particular discipline before you head out 392 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 3: or is it really just a mindfulness to just take 393 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 3: good care of yourself? How do you train for that? 394 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: It's more of a mindfulness. I don't do anything special 395 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: for it. 396 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 5: I what I what I have to say is I 397 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: like to be out on the road frequently, because if 398 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 5: I spend really really long time. 399 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: Off the road, then then I meant that book too long, 400 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, sitting there reading too long. I gotta get 401 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: on the treadmill and you know, get you know, you 402 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: get to get back to this shape. But I don't 403 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: do anything. 404 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: What do you think of the state of the music 405 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 3: business these days. 406 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: I think it's a strange place. Really. There's still elements 407 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: of tradition that need to go away, but they exist 408 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: and probably always will. And but mostly it's it's a 409 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: free for all. It's all over the place, and I 410 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: think it's hard. It's hard for new musicians for sure, 411 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: very hard because you have to you know, it's it's 412 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: a different path. But at the same time, it allows 413 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: because there are many different paths, it allows you to 414 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: to uh, get somewhere without the traditional oh, have a 415 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: single and you know, have a hit single, and and 416 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 1: and and you know, kiss the ass of some program 417 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: director somewhere and do all that kind of stuff. You know, 418 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: it's it's uh and and have to listen to some 419 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: idiotic reviewer that doesn't know what he's talking about or 420 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: sheet that doesn't know what he's talking about. Uh, it's 421 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: a it's a little freer, you know, like at Darrel's house. 422 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: Darrel's house exists. That's you know, that's like every every 423 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: show is like having a hitting record. 424 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 3: Paul, I love that. That's a great description to that. 425 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: Man really is Yeah, can you talk about maybe three 426 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: quintessential albums that still to this day kind of impact 427 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: you on how you just think about music. 428 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't have you asked me this little earlier. I 429 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: don't really have anybody anything like that. There's no one 430 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: thing that influenced me to that degree, you know. I mean, 431 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I've been I've been inspired, like motherfucker, but by by 432 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: certain people and certain music, certain albums. But I can't 433 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: say that there's this album to say, oh, does this 434 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: change my life? This did just did that. It just 435 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: isn't isn't there inside my head. 436 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: It's more of the diverse relationships and the styles and 437 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: just everybody sort of doing their thing. 438 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: Regional experiences and regional sounds and city sounds, all kinds 439 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: of things. You know, It's not it's it's really not 440 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: just being influenced by I'm a terrible audience. If you 441 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: want the truth, I don't. I don't respond as well 442 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: as an audience. 443 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: Terrible audience. I almost fell off my chair really well. Lastly, 444 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: we talked often about sort of that it factor X 445 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: factor that leads to success in careers. What do you 446 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 3: think is your X factor? 447 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: I have a certain kind of voice that people really like, 448 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: and it sounds a certain way as a certain tonality 449 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: if you really want to get into it, it's it's 450 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: very quote radio friendly. But besides that, I don't know. 451 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: It's whatever I'm thrown out there people seem to like, 452 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: and I I'd be the last person to will to 453 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: put my finger on it or what it is that 454 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: that grabs people about anything that I do. 455 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 3: Well. I think authenticity would be on that list, sir. 456 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I'll accept that one. 457 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: I'll lead with that, and I'll end with that, and 458 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: I'll tell you how grateful I am for all the 459 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: music that you have continued to give us, and the 460 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 3: joy of the creations that you make is very special. 461 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: You could almost take Daryl's house and turn that into 462 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: a case study on how to build a franchise. So 463 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: congratulations on all that. I don't mean a franchise like McDonald's. 464 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 3: Come on, I'm not saying I. 465 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Have a franchise, would like that, Okay. 466 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 3: I'm calling it a franchise. And and thanks for this 467 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 3: episode of taking you to give us. 468 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: Share this and other episodes with your friends, and thank 469 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 2: you so you never missed an episode. Taking a Walk 470 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and wherever 471 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts,