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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcast. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Spreading the corn.

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Speaker 3: Ten seconds of maining.

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Speaker 4: So just go show under the basket. Under the basket,

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Speaker 4: it's the true for the wind.

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Speaker 2: God make Amerracle. I'm just up the water. Hit that

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Speaker 2: one from the parking lot. What's up, the general nation?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by

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Speaker 2: Bett MGM. This is the College Basketball Conference Tournament betting

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Speaker 2: Preview Park five I'm stuck in. Joining me today are

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Speaker 2: Mike Randall and fellow colleague and America East guru Tana McGrath,

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Speaker 2: my friend. Happy to have him here. No one knows

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Speaker 2: the America is better, so as you might of guests. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we'll be covering the America East in addition to the

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Speaker 2: Summit and the Southland Bracket. Not out yet totally, but

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Speaker 2: we'll talk through the Southland. Tanner, what's going on? Good

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Speaker 2: to have you join us once again for some America

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Speaker 2: East talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, life is good.

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Speaker 5: Stuck, I absolutely love talking about this conference. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I grew up in southern Vermont and Manchester, been watching

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Speaker 5: Catamount basketball for twenty years. Have grown to love all

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Speaker 5: of these teams equally followed them throughout the years, started

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Speaker 5: covering them more closely, started building connections with the coaches

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Speaker 5: and some of the media members in the conference. And

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Speaker 5: I actually, as I think you talked about in the

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Speaker 5: last episode, leverage those into media credentials for the tournament

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Speaker 5: games at Patrick Gymnasium up Burlington, so I will be

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Speaker 5: there proudly representing our company in the press box and

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Speaker 5: at the postgame press conferences. So you basically you can

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Speaker 5: call me the Colin Wilson of America East Basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yep, Randall, you're up in the Northeast. Guy. You ever

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Speaker 2: been doing Americas game? No?

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Speaker 4: I want to go so badly and watching those championship

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Speaker 4: games on what is it like Saturday morning eleven am,

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Speaker 4: ten or eleven that that is a rite of passage,

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Speaker 4: some pancakes, waffles, sit back, relax.

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Speaker 1: And watch it.

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Speaker 4: My wife went to Stonybrook, guys, so we were sitting

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Speaker 4: there is Stonybrook ever going to get over the hump?

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Speaker 4: And then with warning I think it was, is that

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Speaker 4: Jalil Warney. As I was saying that, right, he got

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Speaker 4: him through and they finally got through, and then he

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Speaker 4: went down to Rutgers doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: Of course, Steve Pichel.

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Speaker 2: Yep. This is a we'll start with the America East today.

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Speaker 2: This is a tournament that doesn't really reward the top

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Speaker 2: seed format wise other than the fact that they do

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Speaker 2: get the host all the games. But it's a Saturday

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Speaker 2: Tuesday Saturday formatt and there are no buys, but they

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Speaker 2: do reseed after each round. Eight of the top nine

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Speaker 2: make nji T did not qualify. Interestingly enough, Vermont lost

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Speaker 3: And they beat the two seed Loll too.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and then JACKYV beat the two seed. They have

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Speaker 2: like a stretch of a giant killer stretch earlier in

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Speaker 2: the season. Vermont is the heavy favorite here minus two fifty.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a little little rich, but I'll get

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Speaker 2: it Tanner's thoughts. And then you have Loll close to

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Speaker 2: three to one, Bryant eight to one, shop around as

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Speaker 2: then you're getting down to New Hampshire thirty five to one,

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Speaker 2: to one. Thing that jumps out first, I mean Vermont

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Speaker 2: is clearly the best team in the league. They have.

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Speaker 2: Their defense is outstanding, and when they played the two

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the storylines I think going into

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Speaker 2: after any offensive rebounds. They're gonna get back. They're not

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Speaker 2: And is that basically it that like just Lowell and

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Speaker 2: Brian can't beat them because Vermont doesn't let them play

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you pretty much.

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Speaker 5: Nailed it, like most of what I'm gonna say and

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Speaker 5: what I want to start.

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Speaker 2: With, all right, thanks for coming, Randall give me.

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Speaker 5: Is you know, the last decade or so of America,

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Speaker 5: these hoops has been defined more by like defense and

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Speaker 5: shot selection, at least relative to many other low major leagues,

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Speaker 5: more methodical pace, more fundamental defense, discipline, rebounding. But the

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Speaker 5: injection of Bryant last year and then recent coaching changes

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Speaker 5: at New Hampshire, Albany and UNBC, you have flipped the

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: Bryant runs a transition on steroids attack. Nathan Davis has

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Speaker 5: turned New Hampshire into a track team. Dwayne Killings has

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Speaker 5: Dwayne Killings has quickly up the Danes pace of play,

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Speaker 5: and he's recruited some of the most like dynamic, speedy

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Speaker 3: Jim Ferry is.

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Speaker 5: A long way from Ryan Odum and he really needed

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Speaker 5: a pace and shooting this year with a totally new roster,

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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, the America East basketball is

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Speaker 5: becoming become about, you know, pushing the pace, letting it fly,

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Speaker 5: and a skewing prevention in favor of all out assault.

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Speaker 5: Last year, the America AAST ranked twentieth among thirty two

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Speaker 5: league was thirty first in twenty nineteen. This year, the

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Speaker 5: conference led the nation in pace, averaging a shade over

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Speaker 3: You said it stuck.

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Speaker 5: Four three ranked top ten nationally adjusted tempo three teams,

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Speaker 5: another top twenty five, another top sixty four. AMI squads

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Speaker 5: average double digit fast breakpoints per game. Three ranked top

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Speaker 5: ten nationally in transition frequency. Favorite example, an early February

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Speaker 5: game between UNBC and Albany featured thirty seven transition possessions,

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Speaker 5: thirty seven fast break points, one hundred and fifty field

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Speaker 5: goal attempts, forty free throws, fifty threes and two hundred

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Speaker 5: hell of a year, stuck, a really fun different year

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Speaker 5: for Americas basketball. I mean they even changed the logo

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Speaker 5: to like the ugliest looking logo I've ever seen in

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Speaker 5: my life. Looks like the ripoff of the I ninety

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Speaker 5: five sign. But still like the more things change, the

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Speaker 5: more they stay the same. And Vermont when it's eighth

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Speaker 5: consecutive regular season title behind a fifteen to one conference record, ridiculous,

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Speaker 5: like ludicrous even money, right, Yeah, a plus one hundred.

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Speaker 5: I saw that I obliterated. It got a steal of

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Speaker 5: minus one fifty. I think they went at six percent

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Speaker 5: us on Twitter and the Action Network cap, that number

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Speaker 5: got obliterated, Like you said, minus two to seventy. And

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Speaker 5: we'll talk about some other teams and other angles that

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Speaker 5: and purposes, I'm picking Vermont to cut down the nets

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Speaker 5: because John Becker stood pat in the face of change.

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Speaker 5: Vermont refuses to be sped up. They still run their

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Speaker 5: methodical five out motion offense that totally ignores offensive rebounds

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Speaker 5: in favor of getting back on defense. And Becker talked about.

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Speaker 2: Three and fiftieth in proximity near proximity too. They're not

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Speaker 5: Yeah, perimeter oriented offense take a lot of threes. And

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Speaker 5: Becker talked about his transition defensive mentality on the podcast

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Speaker 5: and really it's been dynamite. I mean, they've been a

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Speaker 5: good transition defense since Becker took over. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: know they're a little bit vulnerable in terms of per possession,

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Speaker 5: but they're so good in denial. And so even as

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Speaker 5: every other America East team starts sprinting towards Vermont, Becker

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Speaker 5: up the Anne doubled down in his style, and it

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Speaker 5: actually worked in their favor because none of these ultra

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Speaker 5: stifling everyone's offensive identity at the outset. The league ran

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Speaker 5: under one. They've allowed double digit fast break points and

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Speaker 5: only three conference games this year, while allowing five or

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Speaker 5: fewer six times and zero four times, and that partially

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Speaker 5: resulted in John Becker's best defensive team ever. Their top

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Speaker 5: sixty in defensive efficiency nationally led the America East, and

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Speaker 5: the point of attack. Shamier Bogues is the best defensive

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Speaker 5: aliterary a fal a excuse me is a defensive Player.

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Speaker 2: Of the Year.

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Speaker 5: Astonishing to watch him play defense, more impactful games, more

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Speaker 5: impactful plays. With each passing game he had.

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Speaker 2: Four blocks, huge blocks, like huge game changing blocks.

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Speaker 3: He's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Four in that title inching game against Lowell, their defense

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Speaker 5: is twelve hundred persessions better with him on the court.

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Speaker 5: Their rim defense is eight percentage points better. He's a

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Speaker 5: stud in the post defense at all three levels. Among

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Speaker 5: the most versatile athletic players I've ever seen. Even offensively,

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Speaker 5: he's become really good. And the big thing for him

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Speaker 5: is he developed a three point shot, only like fourteen

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Speaker 5: for forty six on the year thirty percent. That's not

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Speaker 5: let's talk about the offense a little bit more. I

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Speaker 5: was wary about this group of guards ability to cut

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Speaker 5: best they're every bit as good as last year's squad.

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Speaker 5: They can still shoot the rock, not quite as well

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Speaker 5: as they did, but it's fine. And their secondary options,

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Speaker 5: which is running ball screens to hit role men who

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Speaker 5: either hard roll or hit cutters off of that on

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Speaker 5: the short roll, generated highly efficient offense. I mean, Vermont

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Speaker 5: led the league in two point shooting for a reason

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Speaker 5: fifty five percent, but they are prone to long droughts

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Speaker 5: this year. They scored less than twenty five first half

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Speaker 5: top fifty nationally in betch minutes. He's never had a

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Speaker 5: Likely on an uptepo transition heavy team like I talked about,

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Speaker 2: Me, Like Arkansas a couple of years ago, they were

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Speaker 5: a good year shooting the ball.

434
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: That's gonna be it. They were one of the worst

435
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 2: shooting teams in the country.

436
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: That was really really bad.

437
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: But I also they don't get any offensive rebounds, which

438
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: is another problem. So like they just go through such drouts.

439
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 2: I agree with Their defense is so good they force

440
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: turnovers their perimeter ds. Great little week in the post

441
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: that's kind of just by design. But like if you

442
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 2: go up against Vermont, like, Vermont's not going to turn

443
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: it over, granted, but you know they could get They're

444
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 2: going to be you know, if they play Vermont, Vermont

445
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: has a little bit of an off shooting night, They're

446
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: going to be right there in the game and just

447
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 2: a grinder, which is why I you know, I would,

448
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 2: you know, fancy their chances, especially given the odds over

449
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: you know, a loll or a Bryant is just gonna

450
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: be so uncomfortable.

451
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely.

452
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 5: I mean, look, the part of the reason why I'm

453
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: taking him is if Maine can pull off that upside

454
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 5: over Bryant, which they've already done this year by holding Yeah,

455
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 5: they held the Bulldogs transition relying off as to seven

456
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 5: fast break points for sixteen turnovers. And like you mentioned,

457
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hearing rumors that potential Player of the

458
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 5: Year candidate Earl Timberlake has been ruled out for the

459
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 5: remainder of the year.

460
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,160
Speaker 3: With a hand injury. Could be monster news.

461
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 5: But if they get past them, I'm more than happy

462
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 5: to take my chances against Vermont, given you know, Maine

463
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 5: late held a second half lead at Patrick in the

464
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 5: first meeting, and the Bears matchup pretty well. They're an

465
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 5: excellent perimeter defense that can counter the five out and

466
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 5: even better ball screen and cutting defense that can counter

467
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 5: ver Bron's bailout options. And Vermont's ball screen coverage defense

468
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 5: is merely okay. So you know, the ball screen continuity

469
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 5: could work. And it's not like Vermont obliterated Maine in

470
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 5: either battle. They average zero point nine to five points

471
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: possession across the two games. The defense capt to close,

472
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 5: and Maine isn't, like you said, They're not transitioning reliant

473
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 5: like any of these other teams. They actually want to

474
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 5: slow the game down. Try to face them up in

475
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 5: the lower possession half court script, which works against the

476
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 5: Cats in a way while increasing the matchups variance. Ultimately,

477
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 5: the Bears would need to shoot better than like the

478
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 5: ten for thirty two from three they shot across the

479
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: two matchups. But I'll take my chances at this number.

480
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: And I'm also just willing to keep buying mainstock and

481
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 5: getting upset when they disappoint.

482
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, this is Maine was a team I

483
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: had circled the Torrance injury. I was basically just like,

484
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't trust Low or Bryant and they have injury

485
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: questions because I don't think that they can beat Vermont

486
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: given what we've seen this year and the style clashes

487
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: and the other two slow teams that I think would

488
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: be comfortable with how Vermont and Vermont's going to dictate

489
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: the game. We've seen that all year are either Maine

490
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: or Bighamton. Bighamton has injury questions with Torrants. I think

491
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: its main is the long shot fifty to one or

492
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: better here uh in the America East. Any before we

493
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: let you go, excellent stuff as always, any any first

494
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 2: round matchups, you're gonna be looking at him. He may

495
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 2: potentially Maine it against Bryant.

496
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 5: I'll go with I'll give I'll give you one. This

497
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 5: is my buy sell spot of the tournament. I'm buying Binghamton. Look,

498
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: I know, Look if Simeir Torrens is playing now, what

499
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 5: I'm hearing online is that he's day to day right now.

500
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 5: Not sure, but I thought the bear Casts were undervalued

501
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 5: before conference play kicked off. We're due for some two

502
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 5: way shooting regression. Well, after starting zero and five, they

503
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: finished seven and four, posted their first winning conference season

504
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 5: since two thousand and nine. They're playing just great basketball.

505
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 5: Right now, and all the positive regression came in. We'll

506
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 5: talk about that more in a second. I'm really selling

507
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 5: New Hampshire. They were getting crazy lucky from three on

508
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 5: defense throughout most of the year. Opponents were shooting like

509
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: twenty eight percent from three, despite the Wildcast ranking last

510
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 5: in the conference in both three points rate allowed and

511
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 5: open three rate allowed, just an endless amount of open jumpers.

512
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 5: All that negative regression came at once. The Wildcats lost

513
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 5: their final four regular season games because those four opponents

514
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 5: canned forty two of one hundred three point attempts. And

515
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 5: I was thrilled when that happened, because the truth is,

516
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 5: this is a really bad defensive team all around. The

517
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 5: interior defense so small too, oh yeah, small ball lineups.

518
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 5: The interior defense is horrendous. When you watch Newmpshire, you're

519
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 5: gonna want to watch Clarence Daniels. He had my vote

520
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: for Player of the Year last season. Three level scoring

521
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 5: big man who hits the boards harder than anyone else,

522
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 5: and he leads a versatile, dynamic, pace and space offense

523
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 5: along excellent complimentary front court pieces like Jackson Baker and

524
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: Trey Wood.

525
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 3: Weird.

526
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 5: But while Daniels defense. His complimentary pieces don't. Baker and

527
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 5: Woodiard are horrific interior defenders who get bullied constantly by

528
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 5: opposing front courts. Hence whyde New Hampshire ranks sub three

529
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: hundred and fiftieth nationally against post up and rollman sets.

530
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 5: Wildcats allow over thirty six paint points per game, second

531
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 5: to last of the conference in two point shooting lab.

532
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 5: So this is a team that's bad at defending the

533
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 5: perimeter and bad at defending the interior, and the former

534
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 5: luck's finally crashed to earth, showing the Wildcats true colors.

535
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: And in this specific matchup, Binghamton is the nation's cut

536
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: heaviest offense. They run an offense where it's Simeir Torrents

537
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: hits wing cutters constantly.

538
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: Nobody does it more.

539
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: Only three teams have a higher like rim rate, and

540
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 5: that's gonna work against the lackluster you know not their

541
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 5: New Hampshire defense. Guys to watch out for are like

542
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: Timely Shenery, who is scoring like fifteen points per game

543
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 5: on sixty two percent interior shooting just by cutting and

544
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 5: driving the lane and getting to the rim. And also

545
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 5: Gavin Walsh, rookie surge late in the season African eleven

546
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 5: points per game of the last five. Also another really

547
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 5: good cutter to the rim that sounds really really nice

548
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 5: against New Hampshire's lifeless defense, and these two split the

549
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 5: regular season series, but New Hampshire straight by the first

550
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: matchup at home in overtime when was injured, and in

551
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: the second matchup Binghamton handled you in ah by thirteen

552
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 5: without Torrance. But the reason why I'm looking at Torrents

553
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: like I feel like I need Torrents here to.

554
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 3: Make this play viable.

555
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 5: The win was played without Torrents, but Binghamton was only

556
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 5: able to overcome twenty one turnovers thanks to a ten

557
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 5: for twenty two shooting night from three. I'm unsure if

558
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 5: like Arman Harriet and Dan Petcash can remain that hot

559
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 5: if Torrance is handling the rock, those turnovers issues are minimized.

560
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 5: The Wings will cut the rim freely, other Wings can

561
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 5: still make shots, and Binghamton will roll the regressing Wildcats.

562
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: Love it, Tanna, thanks for stopping. I have to stop

563
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570
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Speaker 2: throw some change on on Maine. So let's go baby

571
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Speaker 2: and enjoy the tournament.

572
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Speaker 2: I know you just we should have I should have

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Speaker 2: invited you to invite for six thirty eight. You could

594
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Speaker 2: have got a half hour of your timeback sitting. You're

595
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Speaker 2: taking it all in. What you got any thoughts in

596
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: the America East?

597
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, come into the season, I was super high on

598
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 4: UMass Lowll, but when Kolabali went out, he was in

599
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: and out. There were discipline issues and injury issues. I mean,

600
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: I feel like they hit their high point when they

601
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 4: were beating Arizona State that fourth game of the year,

602
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: and then fell apart. They've been way into way too inconsistent.

603
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 4: Brian has struggled down the stretch without Timberlake thereout.

604
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I co signed.

605
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 4: The only answer is Maine. You know we saw Vermont

606
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: earlier in the year at their best and worst in

607
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: the non conference, we saw them give up a big

608
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: lead to Liberty and then Bradley. They lost those games

609
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: when they also had a big comeback as well against Charleston.

610
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: So John Becker Death Texas and John Becker here. The

611
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: only way you're gonna beat them, similar like a Virginia team,

612
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 4: is you're gonna have.

613
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: To beat them slowing them down.

614
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: The only team I'd give sort of a long shot

615
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: too is UNBC, only because they are eleven and five

616
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 4: on the road and for some reason they seem to

617
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 4: play better on the road than they do at home.

618
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 4: But playing Vermont is just not the matchup for them.

619
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: So to me, you want to besides Vermont, it's Maine

620
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: or nothing.

621
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. All right, let's talk some Summit League

622
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: and we're gonna head out to Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

623
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Nine teams all nine to make it, top six get

624
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: a bye. The eight to nine game will be between

625
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: or Roberts in South Dakota. South Dakota playing on their

626
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: home court. Little unfair, but who cares. South Dakota is

627
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: ah rended. They think they're one hundred and fifty to

628
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: one to win this. Do not consider them now They're

629
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: going to win it now that I said that, But

630
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: they're bad, bad across the board. Or Roberts thirty five

631
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: to one. And by the way, these teams would have

632
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: to win four games in five days at play in

633
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: that playing game. Or Roberts is no bench, which is

634
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: very problematic. McBride and Thompson top three in the country

635
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: in minutes percentage, pick and roll, heavy, lot of isolation

636
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: on offense, a bunch of good three point shooters, but

637
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: they get no rebounds. They can't be trusted away from home,

638
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: bad half court, d Bride, bad on d I can't

639
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: trust Oral Roberts. So I'm throwing out the eight nine

640
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: before we dive in. Are you are you? Do you agree?

641
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: Or are you gonna make a case as a long

642
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: shot for one of them?

643
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 4: No, I'm not because the summit has been South Dakota

644
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: stayed every year, and they had North Dakota had their

645
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: chance to get them as well, and they just couldn't

646
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: get it done late in the year.

647
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: That was what was disappointing.

648
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 4: So they had a chance to take a lead or

649
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 4: tie here in the conference and they lost at home.

650
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's top heavy for me.

651
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: One of the more top heavy, heavy tournaments that we

652
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 4: have here in conference tournament season.

653
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, South Dakota State is the favorite here, although Saint Thomas,

654
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: who's not eligible for the NCAA Tournament, actually finished higher

655
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: in ken Pom and they are three to one to

656
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: win this and the way that I see this playing

657
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: out because I agree South Dakota State is the favorite,

658
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: but they are I'll say why they could be vulnerable,

659
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: Like I think they're gonna beat our Roberts the South

660
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: Dakota They're gonna get to the Semis. I think Saint

661
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: Thomas will beat North Dakota State. But which gives me

662
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: just a little bit of pause between with these two

663
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: teams is Saint Thomas and South Dakota State, assuming that

664
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: they both get to the semis. Now, South Dakota State

665
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: has an easier path. They are both very very com

666
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: packed defenses that give up a ton of threes. So

667
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: South Dakota State very compact. I mean they give up

668
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: just a ton of threes. Saint Thomas, which they are

669
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: three hundred and fiftieth and adjusted tempo, they shoot a

670
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: ton of threes like Princeton based offense twenty second the

671
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: nation three point of temph three they lost by five

672
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: to one to South Dakota State in the regular season.

673
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 2: So if that matchup happened, two compact defenses that are

674
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 2: going to get all the defensive rebounds, and then these

675
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: two teams are just gonna be shooting. It's just it's

676
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: a three point shooting contest, right, what's that mean? And

677
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: Saint Thomas grinds you down hi variance game, like, I

678
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 2: could see either one of those teams winning. Who's making

679
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 2: their threes that day. That's what I think that matchup

680
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: comes down to. So I'm I don't I want no

681
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: part of the odds in the top half. So then

682
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: I say, all right, who could potentially come out of

683
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 2: the bottom half. And that's where I'm interested to get

684
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: your thoughts. Bottom half of this bracket with the ruse

685
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: of um case the highest the justin deficiency in the league.

686
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: In February seven and two, they won six straight to

687
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: close the year, four on the road. They also want

688
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: zero to two in league play, so you know, in

689
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: overtime I should say they bit unlucky. Could have been

690
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: a couple more wins there. Pressure defense, I think they

691
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: have the top defense in the league. Great defending the perimeter,

692
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: They are a bit jump shot reliant on offense, but

693
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: they are good on the glass as well. They do

694
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 2: a lot of those little things. You also have North

695
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Dakota great size, elite rebounders, like that's thick, North Dakota

696
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: great rebounders, isolation, rim, attacking offense, vulnerable in the post,

697
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: can't defend pick and roll. You have Omaha, they don't

698
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: turn it over, they get to the line a ton.

699
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: You gotta like Frankie Fiddler, but they've been bad away

700
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 2: from home. And then you have Denver no defense. They

701
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: play fast, electric offense led by Tommy Brunner. He scored

702
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: forty nine in a game this year. But I can't

703
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 2: trust Denver away from home. So you know, I think

704
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: this comes down to maybe the ruse at plus round

705
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: plus eight hundred, what do you see in the bottom half.

706
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: It's the ruse for me.

707
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: For all the reasons you said, I think this is

708
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 4: a weaker South Dakota state than normal, which is why

709
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: I like North Dakota in that matchup with them. But

710
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: they just couldn't get over the hump. The metrics are

711
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 4: not as strong on both sides of the ball has

712
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 4: normally been for South Dakota Kansas City number one in

713
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 4: defensive efficiency in the conference. Now the issue is stuck.

714
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: They love to shoot the three, and they don't shoot

715
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 4: it that well. I mean only about thirty four percent

716
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 4: here in conference. But high variants team at plus seven

717
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: fifty with the defense in the way they play, which

718
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 4: is you know it's going to be slowed down here,

719
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: become a half court game. My pick is to win

720
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 4: it is the Ruse Kansas City plus seven to fifty,

721
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: plus eight.

722
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: Hundred, whatever you can get.

723
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 4: I don't think this is a ventage South Dakota State

724
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: team and the other teams, like you said, just don't

725
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: have that balance. I'm always gonna side with the defensive team.

726
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 4: That's what you're hav and oh, by the way, the

727
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: rules also make their free throw. So I'm on the

728
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 4: Ruse here in the summit. I like them to win it.

729
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, great on the glass, that defense in the league,

730
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: and they shoot a ton of threes. They're comfortable doing that.

731
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 2: They're not great, but they're like, they're not terrible. They're

732
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: not thirty five ish percent, and that's what you're gonna

733
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna get against soth Dakota State. Or

734
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: if you played Saint Thomas, you're gonna get to shoot

735
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: a lot of threes. They lost by nine at South

736
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,760
Speaker 2: Dakota State and one by five they split with them

737
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: Saint Thomas, they lost by twenty one and fifteen. In

738
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 2: those games, Saint Thomas went ten of twenty one from three.

739
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 2: These are Saint Thomas games. And in the first game,

740
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: like UMKC went six of twenty seven from three. That's

741
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get in the Saint Thomas South Dakota

742
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: State games. If either South Dakota State or Saint Thomas

743
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 2: gets to the championship and Game City gets it, they're

744
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: gonna have to make threes. But I like the price, I

745
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: like their path in the bottom half, and I mean,

746
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: what's more fun than having the future on the roots

747
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: tweet out a little kangaroo gift? So yeah, I'll be

748
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: joining you were on the same page. There. Can't really

749
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 2: make a case for anybody else, but should be a

750
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: pretty fun tournament. Don't see any of these teams making

751
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: any potential noise even like one upset. This is a

752
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: one and done league. Would you agree? This is not

753
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: a scary old like your older brother's scary South Dakota

754
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: State team.

755
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: No, it's the last time I thought they could make

756
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: a move, was it. South Dakota State played Providence a

757
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 4: couple of years ago at Cooley's team in the first round.

758
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: It just they end up.

759
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 4: Getting pushed around in those matchups. They I mean, they've

760
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 4: had success in the past, but they they need They

761
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: usually make a run and they can score, but in

762
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 4: the end they just get out and they get physical

763
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 4: and get pushed around, which is why I think the

764
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: rules would be more interesting than anyone else. Marvin Menzi,

765
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 4: they're coming over from New Mexico State after a while,

766
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 4: and UNLV that would be the matchup. It's a matchup dependent.

767
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: But now it's hard for me to see this team

768
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 4: being any whoever wins this conference.

769
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: To me, more than one it done.

770
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you in Bensigus the best coach in the league too,

771
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 2: which is he's had great success in conference tournaments, so

772
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: that's another bonus. Yeah, and that's not Vakota State team.

773
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: Two years ago when they played Providence, I think on

774
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: Kempom for reference, they were like eightieth. This team is

775
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: around one hundred and fiftieth, right, Like that's an I

776
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: think Saint Thomas is around one hundred and forty fifth,

777
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: which is the best in the league. So the top

778
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 2: of the league this year is down in the separation.

779
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: You know. You take a team like UMKC, they're around

780
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirteen, but they're trending up and as

781
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: I mentioned, they finished neely strong to close out the year.

782
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm riding with the roots.

783
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804
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Speaker 2: We won't spend too much time on this. This is

805
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: kind of the Anti America East, which we covered as

806
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: in depth as any podcast would with Tanner, but the Southland.

807
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 2: We don't have the bracket yet because there's games tonight,

808
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: but we did want to cover it because it'll start

809
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: on Sunday and the rest of our well, we're recording

810
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: five episodes, four on Sunday and one on Monday. I

811
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: believe a bunch we're doing a bunch of Sunday and Monday,

812
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: but this one starts on Sunday. It's played in Lake

813
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: Charles home court. Advantage for McNee state throughout tournament is eighteens.

814
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 2: We don't know the three or four order, which is

815
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: either going to be Lamar or Nichols, And we don't

816
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 2: know the seven or eight seeds are by the time

817
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 2: you listen to this, you will But whoever they will

818
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 2: be was the only top eight. Top eight teams make

819
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: it their bottom fifty teams who cares? They're not worth it.

820
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: I would need like two thousand to one to invest

821
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: in them. Top two seeds double by to the semis

822
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: and that would be McNeese and Texas A and m

823
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Corpus Christy three four seeds single buys. Five to eight

824
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: seeds have to win four games in four days. Can't

825
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 2: really make a case for any of the I said

826
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: seven and eight are just gonna be bad. The five seeds,

827
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: see law. They did beat McNeice. They shot twelve of

828
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: twenty five from three. They have no bench though, like

829
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: how EVENNA win four games in four days. They do

830
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: play slower and they can shoot. Caldwell is a good player,

831
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: but they have major turnover issues. And here's the thing

832
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: with Begnise State. The reason we won't spend a lot

833
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: of time on this. I just mentioned South Dakota State

834
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: eightieth and kem Palm. A couple of years ago. Thenee

835
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: states around like sixty fifth. This team is head and

836
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: shoulders above the rest of the league. I mean it's

837
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: not even close. The talent disparity is mass This is

838
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: a team that you know with their downhill attack, with

839
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: their guards, you know there they play a zone pressure defense.

840
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: This team with Shahada Wells the TCU transfer, they are balanced.

841
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: They can score. They're not two three point We're a

842
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: three point reliant on the offensive end, great pick and

843
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: roll offense. They're scary. I have them about eighty percent,

844
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: like minus four hundred to win this conference tournament. How

845
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: do you beat them? And plus they're playing at home,

846
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: by the way, and they have a double buy. They

847
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: just have to win two games at home. Well, you

848
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: have to take care of the ball because they forced

849
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: a lot of turnovers with their pressure, and you have

850
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: to offensive rebound because they're aggressive. They're going to be

851
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: vulnerable there. And you got to hit threes against them.

852
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: They have the highest three point a ten thrade allowed

853
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: in the country. So they did lose the Sea Low

854
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 2: and Sea went twelve to twenty five from three. They

855
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: beat Corpus by one at the buzzer. They came back

856
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: from me eighteen down and is a crazy play at

857
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: the end so who can do that like Lamar theoretically

858
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: ken like, they can shoot, they can offensive rebound, and

859
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: they can take care of the ball, but you know,

860
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 2: they and they give up a ton of threes too,

861
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: which adds to the variants. But they were four to

862
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 2: zero overtime. Not sure I believe in them, Nickel like,

863
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: I would be fifty to one for Lamar Nichols, I

864
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: need one hundred to one. Smith's a good player and

865
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 2: they can shoot, but they have major turnover issues and

866
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: they can't offensive rebound. They lost by twenty one and

867
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: twenty seven to mcnise. No thanks on Nichols. Corpus Christie's

868
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: the two seed, so they have the easiest path, and

869
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: you know I have them like fifteen percent. So it's

870
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: like eighty percent mcneicse, fifteen percent for Corpus Chrissy. The

871
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: rest is five percent. Great defense, great rebounding team with

872
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: Clark and prim but they foul too much. They don't

873
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: and can't shoot the three, but they just like to

874
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: like ugly up the game. They lost by seven and

875
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: one to McNeice. I would need I don't know, probably

876
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: eight to one to consider them. It's just hard for

877
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 2: me to get in front of McNeese State on their

878
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: home court with a double by Northwestern State towards where

879
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 2: it's the sixth seed, the highest ranked team they beat

880
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 2: on kempalm all year, Texas A and m Commerce three

881
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty nine. No thank you on the sixth seed.

882
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: It's just hard for me to make case anyone by McNeese.

883
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: I probably will not be betting anything in this conference

884
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 2: other than game the game, and I hope from a

885
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: fan perspective that we get McNee of the dance. Any

886
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: thoughts here withoutut we don't have odds, we don't have

887
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 2: a full bracket yet, which is one of the talk

888
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 2: some of the teams. And this one's a really easy

889
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: one to cover because mcneessee was just so much better

890
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: than everybody else. Do you have any thoughts here? Randall?

891
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 4: The only game McNeese lost was to Sela. They shot

892
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 4: CELA twelve of twenty five, that's forty eight percent from

893
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 4: three at home, folks, and Southern Southeast Louisiana won by

894
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 4: three in that game. So stucky nail that you need

895
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: a monumental effort to beat strong ass offer Will Wade

896
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: and McNeice.

897
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: I would like Corpus and it's on their home court.

898
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 4: And it's on their home court, and they have the

899
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 4: double bye. I like Corpus Christy. It's just Jim Straw's

900
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: first year because Steve Lutz is now at Western Kentucky,

901
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 4: so it's a first year coach going through this. He's

902
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: done a nice job that remained competitive. It depends on

903
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: the odds. They are great on the boards, which I

904
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 4: think is what you have to do here against McNeice

905
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 4: because you have to be physical and they defend well

906
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 4: inside the arc.

907
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: So could I get there?

908
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I got a good number with Corpus Christy,

909
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: I could take a shot on it. They're going to

910
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 4: have to shoot well, but it is very difficult, and

911
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 4: I agree with you.

912
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: McNeice has no sex appeal.

913
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 4: Most people in the public when they're filling out their

914
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: brackets are going to go right by McNeice. This is

915
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 4: a team that beat Michigan. I know Michigan isn't very good,

916
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 4: but they also this team earlier in the season played

917
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: very very well. You saw them in the non conference.

918
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: They beat Texas State, they beat you a b away

919
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 4: by twenty one. Those are quality wins, folks. So McNeice

920
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 4: is dangerous. Nine out of ten times they're winning it.

921
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,760
Speaker 4: If not, it's going to be corpus Christy will Wade

922
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: could coach, Maybe shouldn't.

923
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 1: Record himself on the phone, but he can coach.

924
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: This McNeese States team is very good in the talent

925
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 4: discrepancy because of the transfers is just it's a chasm.

926
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Richard's Garcia, Shoemacher's a holdover, and then

927
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: obviously Shahada Wells. You know you had you not even

928
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: have c. J. S Felder, the Florida transfer who wasn't

929
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: eligible earlier in the season, and since he came back, they've,

930
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: like you said, they lost one game at Sela by three,

931
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: and that since what December? I think that's the only

932
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: game they've lost, but they stuck.

933
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: They've lost one game since Thanksgiving.

934
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they've been on quite a role. And in

935
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: that game you mentioned twelve to twenty five from three,

936
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 2: mcneicsee was seven to twenty four from three. Awesome from

937
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: the line. It's just hard for me. Those are some

938
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: of the prices I need. But this is just I

939
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: think it's clearly head and shoulders that McNeice is one

940
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 2: of the heaviest favorites you'll see out there for a reason,

941
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: double by home court advantage only adds to the fact

942
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: we'll see who gets the three to four. Makes it

943
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: a little more interesting because I think Lamar, if they

944
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: end up with the four, could give mcneisse a little

945
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: more of a scare as the four seed. But I

946
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: don't see than Nichols could. But I don't see either

947
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: of those teams taking them out. Taking McNee state out.

948
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 2: It would have to be Corpus CHRISTI ugging up the game.

949
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: My problem is they just don't They don't can't shoot threes,

950
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: and you're gonna get a lot of three point looks

951
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: against McNeese, So there is some variance there, but I'm

952
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: not sure Corpus Christy could take advantage on mcneice's home

953
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: court there in Lake Charles.

954
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 4: You want stuck, you want to comparison. I mean, I'm

955
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: a Jersey guy, so I love Seaton Hall. It's the

956
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 4: same sort of thing, like I want to back Seaton Hall,

957
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: but they just can't shoot threes. When they get down

958
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 4: against Yukon, you saw that they're dead and buried. So

959
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: it would take a very special type of game for

960
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 4: Corpus Christy to Upset McNeese.

961
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Randall, thank you for joining me.

962
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,800
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963
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964
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965
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968
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