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Speaker 2: So Michael Verie Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: And now a totally random week in review from the past.

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Speaker 2: Take a guess when this was.

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Speaker 1: That song takes me to a place being six seven

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Speaker 1: years old, sitting in front of the TV bowl of

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Speaker 1: cereal on the bean Bang and it.

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Speaker 3: Was time for Captain Kangaroo.

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Speaker 2: Was there anything better?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: My goodness. Hunter Biden has been found guilty on all

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Speaker 4: counts in his federal trial in Wilmington, Delaware. Extraordinary moment

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Speaker 4: when the son of the sitting President of the United

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Speaker 4: States was found guilty. It happened very quickly. Biden showed

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Speaker 4: no emotion.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden thought that Hunter would be acquitted. He would

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Speaker 2: not be guilty. You'd be determined not guilty. And once

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Speaker 2: that happened, he could say, well, the system worked. If

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Speaker 2: he'd been guilty, he would have had to serve. But

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Speaker 2: I trusted the jury, and y'all need to trust the jury.

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Speaker 2: In the Donald Trump Cave.

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Speaker 5: Like the Curly Q Cord immortalized and Sleepless in Seattle,

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Speaker 5: the landline connects us to the past. Twenty six percent

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Speaker 5: of American adults still have a landline.

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Speaker 2: I highly encourage people to do away with the land.

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Speaker 2: Highly encourage and to put your phone away, to turn

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Speaker 3: Sunday, June sixteenth is Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: I ever thought to.

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Speaker 3: Take that and be granted. Just listen to the rank

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Speaker 3: still remember eavying eire me learn and how to be

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Speaker 2: My dad literally never missed an event that I hadn't

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Speaker 2: put that into perspective. He never missed a school event,

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Speaker 2: He never missed a sporting event, anything where a parent

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Speaker 2: was allowed to be He never missed, not one time.

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Speaker 2: That kind of presence sends a very strong message to

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Speaker 2: a child. For me, that was a sign of his love.

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Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day, Oh for they turn off all the lights.

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Speaker 3: I won't read you your arms or your rimes.

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Speaker 2: If you guessed mid June got yourself on the back,

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Speaker 2: that is correct. It was June fourteenth, after Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: I received an email from a listener I do not

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Speaker 2: know by the name of Chelsea Tillman. You told me

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Speaker 2: about a fellow named Mark Vorderbrugen goes by the name Merriweather.

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Speaker 2: He is described as a scientist raised by wolves, and

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Speaker 2: he has books entitled Idiot's Guide to Foraging and Outdoor

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Speaker 2: Adventure Guide's Foraging. We found this audio clip of him.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 6: I am doctor Mark Merriweather Vorderbrogen, creator of Foraging Texas,

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Speaker 6: author of Idiot's Guide Foraging, and co creator of the

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Speaker 6: Wazoo Survival Foraging Bandana with Nicole Apleon from Alone, Come

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Speaker 6: join me as we discover all the edible and medicinal

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Speaker 6: plants across Texas from East Texas, South Texas, the hill Country,

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Speaker 6: the Panhandle in West Texas. We are loaded with all

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Speaker 6: sorts of really wonderful plants, and I want to share

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Speaker 2: I love it when people have zero self awareness or

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Speaker 2: zero care what people think about them, and they just

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Speaker 2: It feels very wholesome and good. So we tracked this

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Speaker 2: gentleman down who goes by the medicine Man, and he

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Speaker 2: is our guest Mark. Do you prefer I call you

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Speaker 2: Mark or Merriweather?

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Speaker 4: Hey, dork works fine too, plant dork.

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Speaker 2: find that they're generally much happier in a content sort

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Speaker 2: Well, then let's talk about mushrooms. How deep do you

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Speaker 2: on with me for just a moment. Merriweather Vorderbrugen, the

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Speaker 3: Are it's been before? See what condition my condition was? Did?

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Speaker 2: Merriweather Vorderbrogging, known as the Medicine Man. You can find

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Speaker 2: his website at Foraging Texas dot com. Meriweather, let me

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Speaker 4: It was kind of all of the above. Both my

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Speaker 4: And it didn't occur to me that other people didn't

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Speaker 4: Most definitely. And something I've come to realize is the

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Speaker 4: Humans Homo sapiens have been around for it three hundred

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about foraging, all right. I want you

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what you're asking is there's some rules of

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Speaker 4: And unfortunately, the answer is no, just randomly eating things

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Speaker 4: Or you take a piece of a plant, you rub

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Speaker 7: I'm your Gibbons I've spent years learning about natural foods.

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Speaker 7: Every eat of pine tree, many parts are edible. Natural

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Speaker 2: Pretty effective propaganda. And it strikes me that many corporations

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Speaker 4: Well, I truly believe the more machines that touch your food,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure news that work, okay? So like, what will

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Speaker 4: You do the main reason I do, And I was

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Speaker 2: Do you have a mohawk? I saw a picture on

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Speaker 2: We're talking about foraging, which is food, sustin, it's vitamins

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Speaker 2: So I notice you teach classes, Meriweather. You know everybody

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm always interested how people can find an

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Speaker 2: interesting way. I also find that when people do what

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Speaker 2: you're doing and other people are trying to figure out, well,

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Speaker 2: how in the hell do you make a living that

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Speaker 2: you also keep your expenses low and very much. I

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Speaker 2: like to imagine you don't ruin it if not that

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Speaker 2: you're out in a cabin, you know, out kind of

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Speaker 2: off the grid a little bit, and you got some

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Speaker 2: old nineteen seventy eight truck and you keep your expenses

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Speaker 2: extraordinarily low, debt free. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 4: In the planning. Oh yeah, but at the time, you know,

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Speaker 4: there was family and kids and all that.

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Speaker 2: So if you where is your next foraging class, like,

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Speaker 2: what would be a place that you will take your

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Speaker 2: next group of in the.

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Speaker 4: Next one I have? Yeah, the next one I have

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Speaker 4: schedule will be up in Wimberley at a place called

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Speaker 4: Spoke Hollow Outfitters. It's a thousand acre ranch on the

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Speaker 4: outskirts of Wimberly and they specialize they call themselves an

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Speaker 4: outdoor academy. If you want to learn how to go

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Speaker 4: fly fishing, they'll teach you. If you want to learn

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Speaker 4: how to do upland bird hunting, and they'll teach you.

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Speaker 4: What's it called spoke Hollow Outfitters. Okay, yeah, they're an

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Speaker 4: amazing group of people.

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Speaker 2: But it's just interesting because we spend time in Colorado

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Speaker 2: and Wyoming, and you know, every ten feet there's another

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Speaker 2: outfit and you just don't see that very much here,

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Speaker 2: and there are things to do here and people who

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Speaker 2: want to do it. One of our show sponsors, Exciting Outdoors,

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Speaker 2: takes people mostly well most of them Texas not all

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Speaker 2: down to a cast and blast hunt at a beautiful

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Speaker 2: lodge in Argentina and they are booked year round, you know,

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Speaker 2: with dove hunts and all sorts of bird hunts. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think people want more and more of this, and

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Speaker 2: they want to get disconnected from their damn phone and

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Speaker 2: their computer and the office. I really do. I think.

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Speaker 2: Now I want to ask you a question. I want

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Speaker 2: you to just with one word respond on your website

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Speaker 2: Foraging Texas dot com. You've got trees edible and medicinal.

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Speaker 2: I will call it out and you tell me how

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Speaker 2: it tastes or something about it. But you only have

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Speaker 2: a split second. Okay, okay, alleghany, chinkapin.

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Speaker 4: Jickorea not upsets two wards, It's okay.

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Speaker 2: You can do two words.

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Speaker 4: Vickory.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: If I mispronounced it, you just corrected, and then say

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Speaker 2: it basswood.

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Speaker 4: Linden, sugar, cookie, bay.

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Speaker 2: This guy can sell mm.

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Speaker 4: Hm, what was the last bay.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that's like bay leaves.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, bay, beach, pink a pin, bitter orange, bitters,

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Speaker 4: black walnut, talktailed walnut.

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Speaker 2: Bottle brush, minty. I like minty box, elder.

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Speaker 4: Maple, cedar, juniper, gin.

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Speaker 2: Chased, vitex am I pronouncing that.

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Speaker 4: Right, yeah, pepper, coral bean, green beans, cottonwood, bitter.

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Speaker 2: Devil's walking stick, celery, elderberry.

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Speaker 4: This guy's quick.

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Speaker 2: He might just be making it up.

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Speaker 8: He's good fruity, and your mother smells of elderberry, Elma,

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Speaker 8: bitter farkleberry.

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Speaker 2: I just like the name of that one.

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Speaker 4: Raisins Ginko cheese.

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Speaker 2: What is ginko blowba?

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Speaker 4: That is an ancient tree from Asia.

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Speaker 2: I had a I had a guy I worked with

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Speaker 2: at a law firm, and he was all into nutritional

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Speaker 2: supplements and he I think it was ginko. He told me,

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Speaker 2: would how best to say? This would allow you increased virility.

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Speaker 4: You're heard that one of the uses. Okay, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: actually use it.

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Speaker 9: Sweet hackberry dessert a desert sorry, yeah, orange, hawthorn, parsley apple, uh, hickory,

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Speaker 9: shag bark, nutty, holly, jopon tea, hop hornbeam, bitter.

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Speaker 2: Oh, low quat, you got loquats on a low quatter

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Speaker 2: and you got mayhall. My grandmother used to make mayhaul

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Speaker 2: jelly mother Meriweather.

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Speaker 9: You are you are?

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Speaker 2: You're an interesting cat. I'm glad to know there are

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Speaker 2: people out there like you, you know, not just the

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Speaker 2: run of the mill doing the normal thing. The world

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Speaker 2: is your oyster. You're exploring, you're trying new things. You're

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Speaker 2: you're charting your own path. I love it. You can

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Speaker 2: find them at Foraging Texas dot com and then you

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Speaker 2: can find links to all his other websites. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: spending some time with us. I've enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: My pleasure always trying to connect people to nature. There

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Speaker 4: you go, What.

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to do?

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Speaker 4: Ormon?

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Speaker 2: He's trying to connect people to the nature. What are

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Speaker 2: you doing. You're buying his nature, Okay, all right,