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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everybody. Second hour of Clay and

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Speaker 1: with us. First hour, we got into some details by

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Speaker 1: the investigation into the assassination of Charlie Kirk, as we

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Speaker 1: told you on Friday, the alleged murderer, alleged assassin. You know,

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Speaker 1: his father helped convince him to turn himself in. His

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Speaker 1: I guess you could say, which also goes to motive

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Speaker 1: and ideology here, that he lived with. Oh and Clay,

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Speaker 1: they're fighting that, I might add. The left is saying

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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with anything. Really, it's a

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Speaker 1: coincidence that Charlie was shot when being asked a trans question,

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Speaker 1: shot by somebody who had a romantic relationship with a

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Speaker 1: transitioning trends individual. No, these are these are not just coincidences.

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Speaker 1: We all understand what's going on here. It goes right

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Speaker 1: to motive, it goes right to idea. We'll take more

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Speaker 1: calls on this. I did want to just take a

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Speaker 1: other important news that's also going on out there. One is,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry before I do that, I mentioned that JD

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Speaker 1: Vance is going to be guest hosting Charlie Kirk's show

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Speaker 1: into guest hosts as well. Just a tribute to Charlie

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Speaker 1: and the incredible work that he did and the movement

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Speaker 1: there's a need here for what Charlie represented. But a

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Speaker 1: couple of things, Clay on the on the more daily

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Speaker 1: about the National Guard in Memphis. I think that's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into that. Something else that's struck

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Speaker 1: me for a second while this is going on. Did

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Speaker 2: I only knew they were happening because my friend Nate Bargatzi,

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Speaker 2: he had posted that he was going to be hosting them.

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Speaker 2: I did not watch one single moment. I was traveling

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Speaker 1: I bring it up because one, it's funny how much

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Speaker 1: these awards ceremonies now, have you know? I remember when

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Speaker 1: you the Emmy for Best Comedy Show went to Colbert,

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Speaker 1: the canceled Stephen Colbert Show, who ruined a dynasty, who

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Speaker 1: just think it goes to how out of touch, deluded

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Speaker 2: I have not paid attention to the Emmys since they

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Speaker 2: night on the Emmys, though. This is someone named Hannah

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Speaker 3: Finally, I just want to say, I just want to say, finally,

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Speaker 3: go birds, guys, and free Palestine.

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Speaker 1: That's like that right right there. You know that this

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Speaker 1: That's for the Eagles. So the first okay, like that,

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Speaker 2: But the rest of it, you know, the bleep ice

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Speaker 1: There are there are a a lot of left wing Jews, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: the the fact that Colbert it reminds me of when

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Speaker 1: they gave the what is it the Pulitzer to was

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't it the New York Times? It was one of

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Speaker 2: I mean the fact that they haven't pulled those those awards,

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Speaker 1: What they're telling you. Who they are is the point.

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Speaker 1: The point of Colbert's show was not to be funny

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Speaker 1: they give him awards for it. This is how the

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Speaker 1: left wing media ecosystem operations.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, I think you should prepare yourself. I mean,

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Speaker 2: pay Stephen Colbert over one hundred million dollar contract. Just

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Speaker 2: I think the right could do a better job of.

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Speaker 2: There are lots of billionaires out there. You and I

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Speaker 1: The left takes care of their ideological warriors. They get canceled,

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Speaker 1: they get a remember Olberman, who, if you've seen on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: deranged he is. He is somebody who when he left

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Speaker 1: And he never had more than a few thousand viewers

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Speaker 1: My point is that the left takes care of their people,

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Speaker 1: left wing billionaires, left wing billionaires in this country, not

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Speaker 1: just George Soros. There's a bunch of them. There's Reid Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: there's others. They make sure that fringe and delusional voices

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Speaker 1: about everything. I would also just ad right now, Clay

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Speaker 1: Gabby Giffords have written a piece together saying for an

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Speaker 1: end of political violence. Well, our side, we're actually always

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Speaker 1: the call for ceasefire after October seventh. To it, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we can get into some interesting

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Speaker 2: discussion on the celebration of Charlie Kirk's death. I don't

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Speaker 1: People calling in, by the way, who have experienced what

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Speaker 2: The teacher who played the assassination of Charlie Kirk in

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Speaker 1: Let me point this out. There are two pilots who

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that I yes on that. Also, I

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Speaker 2: couldn't believe the number of people who were in uniform

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Speaker 2: posting videos celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated. I don't think

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Speaker 2: you some of these guys in uniform are celebrating Charlie

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Speaker 2: People get fired up on First Amendment in uniform at work,

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Speaker 2: This is an easy test. If I go to Walmart

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We are

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Speaker 3: Evildoers responsible for my husband's assassination have no idea, but

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Speaker 3: It won't. I refuse to let that happen. It will

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Speaker 1: Powerful. I mean, I was watching it over the weekend,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was powerful. I went on immediately after

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Speaker 5: They're the people who don't want to talk. It's my

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Speaker 5: Again, I didn't vote for them, and Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 1: I say, Bill, when i've I did to show the

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Speaker 1: And he said, you're one of these happy warriors. I

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Speaker 1: Many have already said it. Happy warriors ideological were ideal warriors, right,

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Speaker 2: anyone at my company when I own the company who

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Speaker 2: went on social media and said in any way this

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Speaker 2: is celebratory. I think individual business owners should have that right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think certainly it should be mandated if you're

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Speaker 2: a private employee, if you did it in uniform at work,

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Speaker 2: to me, it's a no brainer. I would do it individually.

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Speaker 2: But again, if you are taxpayer funded, I think we

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Speaker 2: should have a pretty bright red line, and I think

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Speaker 2: the right red line should be you shouldn't celebrate. Hey,

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Speaker 2: if Rachel Maddow got assassinated, if Barack Obama had gotten assassinated,

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Speaker 2: you should be fired. If you are a military member,

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Speaker 2: if you're a police officer, I think you can easily

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Speaker 2: kind of work through this, and I don't have a

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Speaker 2: problem with that at all. Private employers, I think should

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Speaker 2: be able to make their own decisions.

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Speaker 1: We'll take some calls. Here Christa in Florida with a

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Speaker 1: story that ties right into what we're talking about. Welcome Christa,

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Speaker 1: Hi clan book.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for taking my call. I really

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Speaker 4: appreciate it. This is it's been shocking, it's been heartbreaking.

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Speaker 4: But I just want to read you from this man's

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Speaker 4: LinkedIn page. Firefighter AMT has this material specialist chemical material.

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Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, let me let me say, can you not

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Speaker 2: share full name because look, there could be there could

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Speaker 2: be somebody having impostors. I just don't want this to

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Speaker 2: be putting people on blast without us knowing anymore. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you, No, absolutely not.

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Speaker 4: I will not say the name, just the credentials. Yes,

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Speaker 4: because then the most shocking part of that was this

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Speaker 4: was my children's youth ministry leader and he has you know,

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Speaker 4: he was working with my young adults.

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Speaker 2: And what did he say, specifically.

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Speaker 4: He celebrated one less maggot.

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Speaker 7: On the world.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I just he was insulting our priest

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Speaker 4: for praying.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I appreciate you calling. Anyone who is

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Speaker 2: involved in children should be, in my opinion, immediately fired

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Speaker 2: from their job if they are in any way celebrating

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Speaker 2: the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: You know, thank you for calling. That's a tough thing

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Speaker 1: because it feels like such a betrayal. You've entrusted your

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Speaker 1: kids to this person for their moral development, youth minister,

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Speaker 1: and you can't understand the obvious, unbelievable and demonic moral

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Speaker 1: failure of celebrating this in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: It's it's stunning, and we're seeing so much of this.

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Speaker 1: Uh and and I just I don't know, I Clay,

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Speaker 1: It's it has made me think that this country has

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Speaker 1: a has a darker future than and I had anticipated before.

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Speaker 1: Just because this, this has to be confronted and I

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Speaker 1: would just point out, and that's why I don't like this. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's on both sides, and let's just all do dialogue.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: No, Charlie was doing dialogue. That's the point. His whole

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Speaker 1: movement was built on peaceful dialogue. And this is what happened.

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Speaker 1: And look at all these people who are celebrating this,

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Speaker 1: and now there's also this really, honestly, it's just so lame,

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Speaker 1: but this effort to say, well, conservatives are doing cancel culture. Now,

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Speaker 1: everyone who's saying that if any person in any job

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Speaker 1: said a particular racial slur, they would all demand the

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Speaker 1: immediate firing of that person, probably in any context whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: They all absolutely believe in people being fired from their

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Speaker 1: jobs for offending or for political reasons or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: now they're pretending like this isn't so they obviously have

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Speaker 1: their red lines. They're pretending like this celebrating the assassination

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Speaker 1: of a father, a husband, a young guy thirty one

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Speaker 1: years old, that's not a red line, Like you should

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Speaker 1: keep your job even after you have brought that kind

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Speaker 1: of infamy on whatever organization you work for. That's insane.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I also think this is where I always

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Speaker 2: try to think on precedent. And I know this is challenging,

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Speaker 2: but I don't even know who the equivalent of Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk would be on the left. But I've just used

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Speaker 2: the name Rachel mad Ow. Buck's right that she's not

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00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: a perfect analogy. They don't have a perfect analogy because

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Speaker 2: their arguments are bad and they don't really believe in

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Speaker 2: free speech.

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Speaker 1: By and Wall, they are very much trying to build

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Speaker 1: up somebody on the left now as the new person

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Speaker 1: for the youth, and he's a I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: his name on the show. He's a very bad person.

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Speaker 1: He's just a bad human being, so I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: But there's someone on the left that there and wrote

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Speaker 1: an op ed for the New York Times, as I

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00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: understand that about this issue is a I could play

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Speaker 1: clips on this show. The fact that the New York

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Speaker 1: Times would give that guy, well, the New York Times

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00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: is a disgrace too. But it's interesting to me because

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00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: our Charlie was a good and decent human being, just

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Speaker 1: completely without getting into his politics. And the left, of course,

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Speaker 1: the person that they want to build up is an

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Speaker 1: outright scumbag. Outright scumbag, just to anyone who's curious knows

525
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Speaker 1: he does understand. This guy does understand internet culture and

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Speaker 1: online video games. That I will say, but that's about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's use Rachel Maddow as an example, or this

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Speaker 2: unnamed guy. I also think if they were a set

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Speaker 2: fascinated at a free speech event and you went on

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Speaker 2: and you celebrated that as a teacher, as a faculty

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Speaker 2: member at a university, as a first responder, as anyone

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Speaker 2: who's employed by tax payers, I think you should be

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Speaker 2: fired for that too. So I think you can easily

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Speaker 2: to me setting the precedent of where is the line

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Speaker 2: that we draw? And again, I think private employers should

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Speaker 2: be able to make their own decisions. I would have

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Speaker 2: the same standard both directions. I would fire someone when

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Speaker 2: I ran my own company, and I have expansive First

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Speaker 2: Amendment beliefs.

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Speaker 1: But people don't under celebrate death. So is the standard

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Speaker 1: that the left thinks that we're all supposed to live by,

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Speaker 1: that you can say absolutely anything and I mean anything

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Speaker 1: and keep your job. Of course, they wanted people to

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Speaker 1: get fired for using the wrong pronouns of Yes, these

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Speaker 1: are the people that now all of a sudden, are

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Speaker 1: free speech absolutists. The First Amendment means that the government

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Speaker 1: can't take action against you for what you say. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that your private employer has to keep you

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Speaker 1: employed no matter what you do, no matter what you

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Speaker 1: say in public. That's not what it means.

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Speaker 2: So I know that's why to me, I mean again,

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Speaker 2: you break it down. I think in times of emotion

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Speaker 2: it's challenging. But there is a standard for basic humanity.

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Speaker 2: And if you celebrate the murder of dads and moms

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Speaker 2: for sharing their political opinions, in my opinion, you have

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Speaker 2: failed the basic standard of humanity. If you fail the

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Speaker 2: basic standard of humanity, I don't want you employed at

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Speaker 2: my company. I don't want you instructing my children. If

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Speaker 2: you are taxpayer funded, then I think you if you

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Speaker 2: fail the basic standard of humanity, you shouldn't be taxpayer

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Speaker 2: funded anymore. Now. Individual owners of businesses, I think they

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Speaker 2: should have the right to decide who they employ and not.

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Speaker 2: But this is not a tough call to me. We

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Speaker 2: can debate sometimes gray areas of Hey, what is an

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Speaker 2: acceptable speech? What's not sharing assassination? You should get fired.

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Speaker 2: In my always opinion, this is not a tough call.

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Speaker 1: We'll take more of your calls here in just a moment.

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big two A guy and Clay's

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Speaker 1: got a lot of firearms in his home now too,

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Speaker 1: thanks to Laura. So we believe in two way through

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Play Travis Buck Sexton show. Tons of

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Speaker 2: you weighing in, not surprisingly on a variety of different topics. Buck,

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Speaker 2: you want to punch some of these up. Let's say,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Senator Marsha Blackburn going to join us

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Speaker 2: about the Memphis National Guard call out top of the

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Speaker 2: next hour. What we got Buck? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Sandy in Memphis? Uh, let's take her call? What's going on? Sandy?

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Speaker 7: Hi? Guys love your show. Not sure if y'all mention

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Speaker 7: this or not, but Harvey Levin is the TMZ guy

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Speaker 7: and he's he was on air when on Charlie Kirk's

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Speaker 7: death was announced and in the background where all his

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Speaker 7: people he employed, and they were literally cheering and laughing

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Speaker 7: and cheering, and.

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Speaker 1: So Sandy, can I jump in just because I did

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Speaker 1: watch this video. I just want to point something out,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that that I agree, or rather

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Speaker 1: that I think this is true or not. They came

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Speaker 1: on air and said, oh, the cheering you heard wasn't

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Speaker 1: for that. It was for a car chase going on nearby.

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Speaker 1: I find that, I know, very convenient under the circumstances.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that, but I just want to be clear.

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Speaker 1: They did try to claim right away that those were

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Speaker 1: not related.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm glad you said that, because I didn't know.

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Speaker 7: Hair Harvey or whatever his name is, did put on

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Speaker 7: a statement, but the statement I saw said we were

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Speaker 7: not laughing at that, But he never followed up with

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Speaker 7: like a normal.

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Speaker 2: Person would say, I mean, Clay, did you did you

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Speaker 2: see this?

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Speaker 1: I saw both, I mean first of them, and Harvey

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Speaker 1: wasn't laughing at it, but there was there was laughter

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Speaker 1: in the background, or not laughter, cheering in the background.

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Speaker 1: But they in the moment, within a few seconds, said

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Speaker 1: I just want to be clear, that's we're covering an

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Speaker 1: unrelated issue a car chase right now. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: I just want to be fair that they they didn't

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Speaker 1: say that an hour later. They said that like five

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Speaker 1: seconds after you heard the cheering or you know, the

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Speaker 1: cheering going on.

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Speaker 2: I think that's look I want to It was quick

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Speaker 2: enough that I think it maybe was true, is what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I want to make sure we focus on

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Speaker 2: people that are intentionally cheering for murders to take place,

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Speaker 2: and there are tens of thousands of them on social

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Speaker 2: media who want their opinions to be to be shared.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think given the speed of

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Speaker 1: the of the that wasn't for the Charlie situation, and

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Speaker 1: it was said right then, you know, I think you

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Speaker 1: give them a little I think they maybe deserve the

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. I don't really know TMZ very well.

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Speaker 1: I just know it's kind of tabloid stuff. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: can't really speak to like, I don't know Harvey, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're like, and that, you know, if

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Speaker 1: it had been some other organizations out there, I'd be like, well,

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Speaker 1: it's definitely a lie.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I also think remember the standard here is

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Speaker 2: very lenient. Don't celebrate a murder in public. You could

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Speaker 2: still we can't see into people's hearts. You could still

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Speaker 2: be happy that it happened. All we're saying is you

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm not defending that that's still

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Speaker 2: a failure of your own humanity. It's a next level

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Speaker 2: step to say I want the entire public to be

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Speaker 2: aware that I'm happy a dad got assassinated for his

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Speaker 2: political belief.

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Speaker 1: That video that you and I have both seen is

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Speaker 1: one of the worst things I've ever seen in my

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Speaker 1: entire life. And I've seen a lot of horrible things

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Speaker 1: because of the work that I used to do. That's

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Speaker 1: one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of something that is more

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Speaker 1: soul crushing and grotesque than the video of what happened

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Speaker 1: to Charlie up there. So how could that not hit

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Speaker 1: someone you know, right in their soul? How could they

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Speaker 1: not understand right away like this is the most base

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Speaker 1: He's a human thing. I'm I'm appalled when I I'm

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Speaker 1: appalled by what is going on with these tens of

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Speaker 1: thousands of people celebrating.

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Speaker 2: When I talked with my sons about the Charlie Kirk assassination,

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Speaker 2: and my two oldest boys were big fans of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: They watched his videos. They're active on TikTok and YouTube,

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Speaker 2: and they circulated and were influential there to such an

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Speaker 2: extent that many of our young men in particular have

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Speaker 2: seen these videos. One of my boys said, Dad, do

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Speaker 2: you think Charlie Kirk's kids are going to grow up

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Speaker 2: and one day watch the video of their dad getting assassined?

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Speaker 1: I hope not. I don't think there's any reason for

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Speaker 1: them to ever see it. And I hope nobody ever,

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Speaker 1: you know, crosses that line.

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Speaker 2: That Jack question just hit me right in the solar plexus.

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Speaker 2: I just I couldn't because I was seeing it through

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Speaker 2: their eyes and thinking about the dad that those kids

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Speaker 2: will never know, and that video being out there is

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Speaker 2: it's just brutal, frankly, to brutal to think about. When

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Speaker 2: we come back, we'll talk with Senator Marsha Blackburn of

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Speaker 2: Tennessee about the National Guard being called out in Memphis,

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Speaker 2: what she thinks should happen. And we just mentioned the

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Speaker 2: University of Tennessee. A lot of different universities are dealing

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Speaker 2: with this. Faculty members. University of Tennessee just fired a

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Speaker 2: celebratory faculty member. We'll talk about that in more