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Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life

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Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can have.

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Speaker 2: Because for the first time in your life, you'll make

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Speaker 2: and not what somebody told you to do. And that's

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Speaker 2: when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Rashwan MacDonald.

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Speaker 1: Our theme is there's no perfect time to start following

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Speaker 1: your dreams. I recognize that we all have different definitions

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Speaker 1: of success.

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Speaker 2: For you and maybe the size of.

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Speaker 1: Your AHA, It's time to stop reading other people's success

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Speaker 1: stories to start living your own keep winning. My next

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Speaker 1: guest is a perfect example of leading with her gifts,

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Speaker 1: understanding the purpose, and accomplishing her dreams because she lives

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Speaker 1: them every day. Her name is Shirley raft In the

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Speaker 1: Word winning actress, singer, producer, author, and philanthropist. Sureley's renowned

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Speaker 1: entertainment career on screen and stage spans over a three

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Speaker 1: decks aids in the ever changing entertainment landscape. Shirl's career

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Speaker 1: has spanned a range of comedy, drama, TV, famme and theater.

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Speaker 1: She's starting currently in a new comedy series, very very

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Speaker 1: funny comedy series that calls Abbot Elementary airs on ABC.

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Speaker 2: On Tuesday nights at nine pm.

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Speaker 1: And also I saw the three episodes on Hulu, so

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Speaker 1: you can catch on ABC dot Com or Hulu. I

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Speaker 1: saw m on Hulu all three episodes. Fantastic.

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Speaker 2: But she plays the.

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Speaker 1: Character Barbara, a long time and respected Philadelphia Kidneycarten teacher,

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Speaker 2: And very very relatable.

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Speaker 1: By the way, and while working in front of the camera,

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Speaker 1: she keeps her life busy. She's also a passionate health

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Speaker 1: advocate and honored AIDS advocate. She is the founding director

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Speaker 1: of Diva. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. The incredible,

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Speaker 1: incredibly accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Shirley Raff. How you doing, Cheryl?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: What should I say, Miss Rapp? What should I say,

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Speaker 2: Miss Ralph?

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Speaker 4: Because you can say goddess.

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Speaker 1: Because you look like a goddess. You look like a diva.

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Speaker 1: You have an amazing career. I recently saw this interview

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Speaker 1: it was on YouTube which we was talking about Sidney Poitier.

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Speaker 4: You know it's so interesting. Well, first of all, you

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Speaker 4: gave me you took a few years off of my career,

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Speaker 4: which I'm sure is a wonderful thing, except for the

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Speaker 3: My very first job.

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Speaker 4: I was nineteen years old, fresh at college, and Sidney

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Speaker 4: Quatier gave me my very first job in a film

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Speaker 4: Me absolutely and I played a bad young girl, Barbara hanleyper.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because Barbara Hanley.

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Speaker 4: I've been hearing people say that's why Barbara Howard is

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Speaker 3: Great teacher, because she was Barbara Hanley.

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Speaker 4: So I just love the fact that people are able,

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Speaker 4: put it together full circle like that, and that The

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Speaker 4: start for me was mister Potier, who stayed in touch

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Speaker 4: with me for most of my career. The last time

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, And he was so wonderful and he told

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, the interesting thing about your charactercuse. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been a sitcom writer and so I've been fortunate

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Speaker 4: You know, sarap Phony is one of the greats Sarah

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Speaker 4: But there have been so many series that Sarah Finney

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Speaker 1: Literally, well you know you've you've had your hands in

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Speaker 1: And all they kept saying, we got to get Shirley

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Speaker 1: Raff on it because she's the one.

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Speaker 2: She's the one.

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Speaker 1: We got to have a messal because he needed a

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Speaker 2: He said, yes, he's good, but we gotta.

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Speaker 1: Get Shirley Raff and I remember it was just a

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Speaker 2: One, and you've always had that.

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Speaker 1: She's the one tone from the industry and it comes

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Speaker 2: Talk about longevity and relationships.

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Speaker 3: I think you just put your voice on it.

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Speaker 4: Who knows you, who likes you, who wants to work

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Speaker 3: I just came back from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 4: You know, I commute my husband, Senator Hughes of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 4: He and I, well, I do the commuting. But we

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Speaker 4: were laughing because a friend of mine has a new series,

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Speaker 4: Sean McBride. Shy and I did a movie together called

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Speaker 4: He got his new sitcom and he said, I got

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Speaker 4: I was on the plane and they were like, Shi

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Speaker 4: has asked me if you do this show with him,

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Speaker 4: and you know it's small, but I'm just like when

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Speaker 4: have you, the least you can say is okay, yes.

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Speaker 1: Well I never to tell everybody I've been in the

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Speaker 1: this diva, this goddess. And over the years I've seen her,

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Speaker 1: If because we are working under a stress situation, you know,

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Speaker 1: You have to write a character, you have to come

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Speaker 1: There's so many things that go into creating the project.

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Speaker 1: to have a talent like Shirley Raff who wants to

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Speaker 1: promote it.

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Speaker 2: See see if she.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't want to saying you see, that's why you're doing

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Speaker 4: this show about money making because promotion, promotion, promotion. You

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Speaker 4: but if nobody knows it's there, it means absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 4: You know, I shoot two series. I shoot Abviod Elementary,

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Speaker 4: and I shoot a series called Motherland Fort Salem, which

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Speaker 2: The Spree form.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely I don't I got you, I got about you.

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Speaker 1: I got you, Okay, I got you Because Demetria, she's that's.

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Speaker 4: Exactly right, and people should see Demetria.

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Speaker 3: People should see the show.

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Speaker 4: When you've got a woman like me as the forty fifth,

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Speaker 4: alternative world where the future is truly feminine, they should

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Speaker 3: But they don't see it because of a lack of promotion.

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Speaker 4: But abviod Elementary abvid Elementary is pouring the sauce, stated

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Speaker 4: on Nymorrow, you hear me, Oh gosh. When we were

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Speaker 4: Lady Sketch show? No, no, no, that little woman from BuzzFeed,

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Speaker 4: the Q Lady that I call her the true Queen Bee.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we need to know about this. It has been amazing,

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Speaker 1: You know, thing't think about it because before the show

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Speaker 1: And so and then I saw an article on her.

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Speaker 2: And then they said, oh, you know, Shirley Raft scheduled

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Speaker 1: What I don't do Shiryl, I do not interview people

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on my sofa yesterday and I saw

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Speaker 4: James, Now James, I think is a bright talent that

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Speaker 3: This is her a show like this, and she is

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Speaker 1: They're struggling for funds, they're struggling to kids supplies, they're

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Speaker 1: I would say, you always have these shows where you

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Speaker 2: She's extreme because you don't know if she.

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Speaker 1: Because she has a line and she said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I can make more money on the streets. And you

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Speaker 4: I honestly have to tell you that sitting there listening

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Speaker 4: That table reread with ABD Elementary I was doing.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I felt you were you were two

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Speaker 4: absolutely not. We need a queen from missus Howard.

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Speaker 4: Has given me the wonderful task of doing exactly what

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about you being an eight A

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Speaker 2: Part of who you are.

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Speaker 1: I've seen what you've done over the years is you've

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Speaker 4: People are hard headed. Yes, people do not believe the

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Speaker 4: When it came to HIV, we knew that condoms were

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Speaker 3: Could we get people to wear condoms?

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Speaker 4: Could we get women to carry condoms and protect themselves? No,

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Speaker 4: it doesn't feel good, it doesn't fit HIV get tested?

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Speaker 4: Could we get people to get tested? And if they

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Speaker 4: did get tested, they would only go in for their

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Speaker 4: People who know or knew that they were positive for

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Speaker 4: then act like.

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Speaker 3: It's a lie.

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Speaker 4: Yes, HIV did not have to become a black woman

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Speaker 4: in the South burden, but it is. People are hard headed,

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Speaker 4: want to make up all kind of stories around these things,

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Speaker 4: talking about why should people why should the government be

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Speaker 4: telling me what to do? Well, here's here's some things

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Speaker 4: that you don't have to do. Please, do not get

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Speaker 4: See what happens when they find you driving without a license. Please,

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Speaker 4: if you're in a state where they charge you income tax,

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Speaker 4: don't pay your taxes.

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Speaker 3: Just don't pay your taxes because when.

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Speaker 4: The IRS finds you, you're going to see what happens

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Speaker 4: when people tell you some of the things that you

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Speaker 4: children for a lot of diseases so that they can

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Speaker 4: I suggest you try not vaccinating your child for anything,

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Speaker 4: because that child will not be going to school anywhere.

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Speaker 4: So those are just a few of the things that the.

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Speaker 3: Government tells you you must do. What you're going to do,

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Speaker 3: that's what I need to know.

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Speaker 4: What you're going to do because see, I need you

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Speaker 4: you're not part of this, you're not voting.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, don't get misstarted. That's my life.

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