1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: A Florida beach beauty marries her dream man and the 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: two set to live happily ever after until death do 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: they part. But what the twenty six year old bride 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: doesn't figure on is that the hintman she hires to 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: murder her groom is actually a cop oops who stings 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: the bride on video Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm 7 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being 8 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: with us here. Let's kick it off with our friends 9 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: at Crime Watch Delhi. The Polito is a guy working 10 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: hard to get his if in order. He's an ex 11 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: con fresh at at present for running a phony investment scam, 12 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: but after meeting Dahlia on an online dating site, he 13 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: falls into a whirlwind romance. He called her up, made 14 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: an arrangement, she showed up at his office. He liked 15 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: what he saw. Within a short period of time, he 16 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: divorced his wife and he found himself married to Dahlia. 17 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Reporter and crime writer Mark Ebner says Dahlia is a 18 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: woman who knows where she wants to go in life 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and waste a very little time getting there. He claims, 20 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: after the honeymoon, her next destination is Michael's bank account 21 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: to the tune of two hundred and forty thousand dollars. 22 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: She put her claws in him so fast in a 23 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: six month time span, managed to take all of Michael 24 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: Dippolito's money. She managed to get his home ded it 25 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: over to her. But all that is not enough. She 26 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: has everything she wants, but she reportedly wants it all 27 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to herself. Guys, what you're hearing is the plot laid 28 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: out by friends of the groom. But what really happened? 29 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: Joining me right now an all star panel. Brian Claypool, 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: lawyer for Dahlia di Polito, Dr Bethany Marshall's psycho analysts, 31 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: joining us out of Beverly Hills On and stuff at. 32 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Dr Bethany Marshall, James Shelnutt twenty seven years Metro major 33 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: case swat now lawyer, and Ray Kiputo, lead news anchor 34 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: Orlando News w DBO. Ray, what happened? Well, Nancy, these 35 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: two it's a really good looking couple. You see pictures 36 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: of them. Dahlia was a Catholic schoolgirl and and Mike 37 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: was a you know, asquiring investor who had a little 38 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: bit of trouble. But they hit it off quick and 39 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: they were They were married in this whirlwind romance. This 40 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: happened down in boytant Beach, ray by Palm be Suporton. 41 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: You know these two, It's just they were like fire 42 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: and ice, it seems, because everything wasn't as it appeared 43 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: on the surface. Well you can say that again. Take 44 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: a listen to our phrase At ABC twenty twenty. Terry Parker, 45 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: investigative reporter for WPBF twenty five News, covered the story. 46 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: So this guy, Mohammed walks into the Boyton Beach police 47 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: station and he says, I know a woman who's trying 48 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: to hire a hitman to kill her husband. She asked 49 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: if iind of someone who can kill her husband for her. 50 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: The man, Mohammed Shahati, was recorded as he talked to 51 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: detectives about his one time lover, Dalia di Polito. He 52 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: tells police he's speaking out to save the man's life. 53 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: He's scared for the guy. Yes, because she's really I mean, 54 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: that's serious on getting this done. It's quite a story 55 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: if true. Because while he can describe Dahlia, she maybe 56 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: five six five seven, dark, black, care should good looking girl, 57 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: really good looking girl. Actually he can't even tell cops 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: her last name or her address. By the time, we 59 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: didn't know what to believe. We were kind of, you know, 60 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure what we had. They had the reservations. They 61 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: had to say, let's see some proof. To get proof, 62 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: the cops make Muhammed a confidential informant. He arranges to 63 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: meet Dahlia at this gas station. Cops are staked out 64 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: as their mystery woman arrives. So to you, Brian Claypool, 65 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: renowned attorney joining me out of la the lawyer for 66 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito, the so called black widow, Brian Claypool, I 67 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: guess everybody is teaming up against your poor client, Dahlia Dippolito. Here, 68 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: you've got a former boyfriend, and I'm sure I'm using 69 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: that term ephemistically, but you've got a former boyfriend who 70 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: walks into the cops station and says, hey, my lover, 71 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: Dollia Dippolito is trying to kill her husband. What is 72 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: he lying to or Nancy. One thing you're missing about 73 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Mohammed's first interaction with the law enforcement was that he 74 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: also said that Dahlia conveyed to him that she was 75 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: being domestically abused and that either she was going to 76 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: die or either he was going to die. That's the 77 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: exact first phone call he makes. And that's the point 78 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: that we were making in the trials, which was, look, 79 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: the police department did nothing to investigate domestic abuse, and 80 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: they did everything to make good TV for the cops. 81 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Television or hold on just a moment. Did she call 82 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: police and report domestic violence? Don't? I don't know whether 83 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: she called to report. Then wait a minute, you know what. 84 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: That's why you win so many cases, Roye Layton. You 85 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: get people hook line and sinker because you just said, Jackie, 86 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: did he just say that the police never investigated all 87 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: the domestic abuse? But you're telling me you don't know 88 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: if you're client, your client, and you've got a pretty 89 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: good try record, choice Layton, and you don't know whether 90 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: she ever called cops and said I just got hit, 91 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm being abused. Well, Nancy, this case was always about 92 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: Dahlia's constitutional rights being violated. That's why I took the case. 93 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: And everybody's seen that videotape where Dahlias says she's five 94 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 1: thousand percent sure she wants her husband killed, but they 95 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: don't see behind the scenes about the police Department, Blin 96 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Beach PD, pressuring Muhammed, Can I get back to you 97 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: claiming that she was a domestic abuse victim? How long 98 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: had she been married to her room she was? She 99 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: did claim that she was domestically abused, and that's in 100 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: the recording. How long were they married. I don't remember 101 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: the exact amount of months they were married, but Nancy, 102 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, married a few months. I don't know how 103 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: long they were married when it was reported, who jumped 104 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: in and said five months? Is that Caputo? It's Ray 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: Ray Capputo w DBO. So they're married five months? They 106 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: renowned defense attorney. And I'm not I'm not saying that 107 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: with a box assault because Troy, excuse me. Brian Claypool 108 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 1: is a well known trial lawyer who represented Dalia di Polite, 109 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: who's won a lot of cases. Just told me that 110 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: police fail to investigate domestic abuse. But you cannot tell me, 111 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool, that she ever told police she was a 112 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: victim of domestic abuse. Correct. When a woman is domestically abused, 113 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: she tells her friends, Hey, if I go missing, it's 114 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: my husband who did it. She never says, look either 115 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: she's going to die or I'm going to die. In 116 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: thirty years of private practice and working with domestic violence victims, 117 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: I have never heard that line. Usually they're afraid for 118 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: their own lives. They're not threatening the life of their spouse. Guys, 119 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: hold on just a moment, let's take a listen to 120 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: our friends at ABC twenty twenty. She gets into Muhammad 121 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: silver Lexus. Well, you can't quite see them on the 122 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: hidden camera cops had installed. You can sure hear them 123 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: talking about a hitman whose guys. Once she gets in 124 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: the car and she meets up with the informant, we 125 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: realized that this guy was credible. I mean, but do 126 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: you know what I'm telling nobody yet, nobody's going to 127 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: be able to point a finger. I mean, she's just 128 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: talking about it the way like she's ordering lunch. Randy 129 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Schultz is a columnist for the Sun Sentinel newspaper. You 130 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: think this is just so cold, not really acting like 131 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: the typical newlywedge shell we safe. Mohammad tells Dahlia the 132 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: hitman wants twelve hundred dollars to buy a gun. She 133 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: comes prepared. She has a wad of cash in her 134 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: bag and counts it out and hands it over and 135 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: shortly afterward gives him a photo of Mike White. My picture. Really, 136 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna give him a finger pen fall over And 137 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: at that moment the detectives realized, Ah, we've got her. 138 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: This is real. She just handed him twelve hundred dollars 139 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: in a picture of the husband that she wants murdered. 140 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about 141 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: a gorgeous young beach beauty who marries the man of 142 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: her dreams till death do they part. But the one 143 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: thing she did not count on is that the hitman 144 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: she hired to murder her groom was in fact an 145 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: undercover cop. And with me special guest, the lawyer for 146 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: Dahlia Dippolito, Brian Claypool, take a listen to our friend 147 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: Amy roback. Dahlia never backs off. I don't want no 148 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: police say. Dahlia thinks she is meeting an actual hitman 149 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: and his cherry red convertible. He makes his plan crystal clear. Okay, 150 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: a burglary gone wrong that leaves Mike dead. Maybe that works, 151 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: not net work. Then he gets to an air the 152 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: undercover detect if he really wants to nail Dollia make 153 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: sure he's got it on tape and on camera that 154 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: she is really going to pay him to kill her husband. 155 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: And he says, are you sure, Dahlia, now what it's done? 156 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: You know I have an objecent money of mine. No, 157 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: that's not like anyone. I'm positive, Like, well, bride about 158 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: them to Charlotte. There it is. The press would have 159 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: a field day with this line. Listen again, she's five 160 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: thousand percent sure. I'm positive, like, we'll bride about them 161 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: tocent Charlotte. Well, when I'm gonna give them. No, she 162 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: wasn't just one hundred percent sure. She was five thousand 163 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: percent sure that she wanted her husband killed. Okay, you're right. 164 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool, the lawyer for Dohlia did Polido. You're right. 165 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: She doesn't say one hundred percent sure or two hundred 166 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: percent year, but five thousand percent sure. You brought it up, 167 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: so I played it for you. Response. You know, in 168 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: my response is that that she was pressured into having 169 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: that meeting with the undercover police officer. Just prior to 170 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: that she was she was she had a meeting with Muhammad, 171 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: the undercover informant, where he was pressuring her and there 172 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: were police officers all around this restaurant that that interaction 173 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: was recorded by the police department and it was destroyed 174 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: by the police department. So my argument in the case 175 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: was that Dalia had a large she had a big bark, 176 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: but a very small bite. In fact, she never even 177 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: did you know, the stancy. In a second trial, I 178 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: got the undercover hitman to admit that Dalia never even 179 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: gave him a key to Mike's apartment, and she didn't 180 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: give him a picture of Mike Toppolito, and he admitted 181 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: that shows that she lacked the proper intent to have 182 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: him killed. And that's why we almost won the second trial. Yeah, 183 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: Key were there almost, But let me understand something. You're 184 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: saying she didn't hand over a photo, but it's my understanding. 185 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: She did hand over a photo twelve hundred dollars cash 186 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: and a photo of Mike. She handed over a photo 187 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: to her ex boyfriend Mohammed. Now, when it went to 188 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: the undercover police officer, not the informant. When she's pressured 189 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: into meeting the undercover pressure, who's pressure or the police 190 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: department made probably over a hundred phone calls they were forcing, 191 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: They were forcing Mohammed the informant to call her, call her, 192 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: call her. Mohammed's like, look, dude, I don't want to 193 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: be involved in this anymore. I don't want to be 194 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of this. They're like, yeah, you are 195 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: going to be No, no, no, no, I'm not listening 196 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: to what you're saying about Mohammed because he's not charged 197 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: with Simpson murder. Who pressured your client Dahlia to polito 198 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: to pay a hitman money the police to here's my argument, 199 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: But for I thought you said this was a movie 200 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: script one time, well no, let's focus on your question. 201 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: But for the police department pressuring Mohammed to pressure Dahlia, 202 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: Mohammed is the one that set up the meeting with 203 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: the undercover hip man Dalia. Didn't this all happened within 204 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: a seventy two hour window because that was the Cops 205 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: TV show timeline to get this script done. In a 206 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: Norton Dancer, you're aware of this. In a normal undercover operation, 207 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: it could take a month or many months to get 208 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: this accomplished. They were, they were, they were on an 209 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: accelerated plan to get her on tape to try to 210 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: kill her husband, and she would have never done. Paused, 211 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: We're all I gotta cut through this and understand what 212 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you're saying with me is veteran trial lawyer Brian Claypool, 213 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: who represented Dahia to Polito at trial. Now, there have 214 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: been two trials. Now you're saying now now today that 215 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: she Dhlia to Polito was pressured by her friend Mohammed 216 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: via police, police pressure. Mohammed Mohammed pressures her to have 217 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: a hitman with the meeting with a hitman. All right, coercion, 218 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: But isn't it true? At another trial, the defense was 219 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: that the entire thing was actually a script, that the 220 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: script was basically a screenplay for a movie she wanted, 221 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: a reality show she wanted to do and they were 222 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: acting it out. Yeah, that was the first trial that 223 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: I did not conduct, and I will concede to you 224 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: that that argument was farcical, that that was a silly 225 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: argument that Dahlia's attorney put forward to the jury. And 226 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: we had an entirely different twist on the case. It 227 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: was stunt due process violations carried out by the point 228 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: in Beach PD. Let me go now to Ray Kaputo, 229 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: the lead anchor for morning news WDBO. Ray, there have 230 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: been a couple of trials for Dollia di Polto. At 231 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: one trial, explained to me the script defense. Yeah, well, 232 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: here's the thing. Mohammed the gentleman that she was talking to, 233 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: and ic gentleman loosely, I don't know him. He was 234 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: a part time actor, and Dahlia says that him and 235 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Mike were in on kind of doing a reality show 236 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: based on an episode of birth. Did you say the 237 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: husband was in on it? That's what Dahlia says. Now 238 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: he enemic an episode of burn Notice that had a 239 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: similar storyline, and they wanted to post it on YouTube 240 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: and get famous, and this is you know. Brian said 241 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: that it was farcical, and I agree because here's the thing, Nancy. 242 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: The idea of getting famous on YouTube is really a 243 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: modern thing. In two thousand and nine, it was still 244 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of evolving because they had that part program and 245 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: that just launched it like the very end of two 246 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: thousand and seven where people can start getting paid for 247 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: their videos, so I keep getting paid on YouTube. Wasn't 248 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: like this big idea that everybody now wants to do, 249 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: like the loggers and people. So it just doesn't make 250 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: sense then that somebody will be doing that. I hear 251 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: what you're talking about, the intricacies of putting posting video 252 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: online and getting paid for it or not getting paid 253 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: for it. But I'm concerned about the trial and I'll 254 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: tell you why because to James Shellnutt, twenty seven years 255 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: Metro major case swat Now lawyer, here's the thing about 256 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: multiple trials. Whatever you say at the first trial, there 257 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: is a certified transcript of that. So if you have 258 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: a completely different defense, such as I was forced by 259 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: the cops to try to put a hit on my husband, 260 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: everything you said the first trial can come in on 261 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: cross examination. You can say, well, whoa whoa wall. Wait, 262 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: now you're saying the cops and made you do this, 263 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: But last trial you said this was all part of 264 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: a script you made up as a reality series with 265 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: you the hitman and to your husband that he was 266 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: in on it. That's not true. Then you're stuck with 267 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: what you said at that first trial. What about it, y'all? 268 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: Nutt oh, I agree one hundred percent. I mean, the 269 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: credibility is completely impeached at that point. I mean, you know, 270 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: it's going to be hard to go back and retract that. 271 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: You know, if you take a look at this, and 272 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'll due respect to Brian always got a 273 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: client to defend. I get it. I've done criminal defense 274 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: in the past. But you know, if you take a 275 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: look at it, nothing is consistent with what this lady 276 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: is claiming as being a domestic violence victim. You know, 277 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: she was with this guy a very short period of time. 278 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: They were traveling. Uh. You know, in addition to that, 279 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: you know that this supposedly was going to occur. This 280 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: hitman was supposed going to kill her husband. She's going 281 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: to a gym she regularly went to. You know, if 282 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: you take a look at the whole situation, nothing adds up. 283 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that was mentioned 284 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: a minute ago is this thing happened quickly. You know, 285 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: the police are going to have a concern that they 286 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: need to move quickly. If this lady is really serious, 287 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: or anyone's really serious about killing a spouse in a case, 288 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: they may lose patience. They may want it done then. 289 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: And if the person that she's dealing with, the undercover officer, 290 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: doesn't do it, she's liable to hire somebody who actually 291 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: isn't an undercover officer and who will do it and 292 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: will do it before they can react. Crime stories with 293 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, Guys, we are talking about a beach beauty 294 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: who marries her dream man to live happily ever at 295 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: her after, But what she didn't count on was a 296 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: hitman she hired to murder her husband was actually an 297 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: undercover cop with me. Were now to attorney Brian Claypool, 298 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: who represented Dahlia Dippolito at one of her trials, and 299 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: you got to think through what Claypool's up against. He's 300 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: already had one trial that he had nothing to do 301 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: with where the defense was actually this was part of 302 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: a reality show's script and the husband was in on it. 303 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: He stuck with that as he heads in to trial 304 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: number two. Take a listen to ABC's Amy Roebok. Dahlia 305 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: never backs off. I don't want no, I'm not gonna 306 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a lot precker than what I love 307 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: and I working. He'm like, oh, what a cute little girl. Whatever, 308 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: But I'm not thank you, but I I think for 309 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: make sure everything's going to think about the not so 310 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: cute little girl agrees to a plan. She will leave 311 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: the house early Wednesday morning, six thirty morning. Sure enough, 312 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: she's at this gym around six am Wednesday, leaving Mike 313 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: de Bilito home alone in bed, still recovering from liposuction 314 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: from two weeks before. At this point, the police have 315 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: all the evidence they need. These are either experienced officers. 316 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: You know that you have enough if you have a 317 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: case done. End of story, but not end of television show. 318 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Television show for you. That's right. Turns out a reality 319 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: show has come to Boyden Beach and the timing couldn't 320 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: be better. They'll be able to film the last part 321 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: of the police investigation. You're hearing our friend Amy Robot 322 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: straight back out to Rate Caputo, lead news anchor Morning 323 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: News w DBO. So what happens next. She's at the 324 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: gym when the hit goes down, the supposed hit. Yeah, Nancy, 325 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what. She wanted to be on 326 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: reality TV. And she got on it all right, because 327 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: the cops were filming an episode of that show. So 328 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: they bring her back from the gym to this staged 329 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: crime scene and they got this all on video, and 330 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: they get her reaction when they tell her that Mike 331 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: has been murdered, though of course he's still alive and 332 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: this is all stage. But I'll tell you. She puts 333 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: on a type of act that would have been great 334 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: for reality TV. She starts walling. She she tremor starts, 335 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, kind of hunching over. But one thing you 336 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 1: don't see is you see tears, you know. And this 337 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: woman puts on quite an act thinking, you know, considering 338 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: the videos that we saw before that she you know, 339 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: was behind this. She puts on quite an act, trying 340 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: to sell the fact that she was upset that Mike 341 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: apparently was murdered. Okay, take a listen. The TV show 342 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: cameras are rolling when police wake up Mike. That's officer 343 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: and Moreno at the door. Your wife was tired of 344 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: a person to kill you. Yeah. I was totally in 345 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: shock that this was going on. I was very surprised. 346 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: I was like, because then it hit me like, this 347 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: is a this is a mess. They drive them away 348 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 1: and transformed the street to make it up. Here they're 349 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: really investigating Mike's murder. The TV show cops along with 350 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: Boyton Beach Police, have cameras rolling. When a detective calls 351 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: Dahlia at the gym, we're at your residence, man, can 352 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: you come right back to your residence? Police she's back 353 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: in a flash, and now watch carefully. You be the 354 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: judge of what happens next. As your husband, Michael, Okay, 355 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killing. We 356 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: know the cops are acting. What about Dahlia Okay, Brian Claypool, 357 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: you're stuck with that video and audio at trial number two? 358 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Yeah, here, here's what 359 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: we argued. Uh, you just heard Amy Roeback say, uh, 360 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: the police officers were acting as well. What I argued 361 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: in the second trial was that the fact that the 362 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: police department went to such an extreme to set up 363 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: a staged crime scene, and then Nancy after that, that 364 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: the the media person at Point BEACHPD takes that video 365 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: clip that you just played for your listeners and she 366 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: posts that posts it online for the world to see, 367 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: and it goes viral internationally within seven minutes. And fault 368 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: is that that's Dahlia Dippolito's fault. She's the one out 369 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: of the street crying. I mean, as I love to say, 370 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: Meryl Street, don't worry, Okay, you're safe because but she 371 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: certainly put on a performance. Well, look, I know that 372 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: you're in love with that that that's her crying. Yeah, 373 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: I am stage crime scene. I'm surprised you haven't brought 374 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: up the shy latte to listen at the end, and 375 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: Gradger said that I was just waiting for my any 376 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: wished to poison him before she hired the hitman. That 377 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: wasn't true at all. There's no evidence of that, no investigations. 378 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: But let me make one more quick point. The whole 379 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: the whole point in cross exam of the media director 380 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 1: was that there is a pending criminal investigation ongoing. You 381 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: don't jeopardize or contaminate an investigation by circulating this video worldwide. 382 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: That was our argument. Her due process rights were violated. Well, 383 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: if she had trying to kill her husband, hired a 384 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: hit man and carried on doublish, she's physically doubling over 385 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: in grief. She did that, not the copscy Nancy, You're 386 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: one of the brightest people I've ever met. There's a 387 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: legal doctrine called fruit of the poisonous tree. You've heard 388 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: of that. Our argument was, did that stage videotape, that 389 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: tape or Dahlia's five thousand percent short that is all 390 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: toxic and contaminated and the result of unconstitutional violations by 391 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: the Bloynton Beach Police Department. Okay, did they make Muhammed 392 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: come in the friend Mohammed and say, hey, my ex 393 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: lover is planning a hit? FYI? Nobody. The police didn't 394 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: make that happen. What they did do was doing get 395 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: an undercover cop to pose as a hitman, and that's 396 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: absolutely constitutional. She didn't have to take that meeting. The 397 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: ATM There was an audio tape. There was an audio 398 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: tape of the police officers laughing at Muhammad when he 399 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: went in because he couldn't remember her name. They weren't 400 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: even taking this that's serious. And then Ray Ray, actually 401 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: one of your other guests, made a good point that 402 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: I actually made to help Dalia almost win the second trial. 403 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Ray just said, oh wait a minute, Dalia could have 404 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: hired somebody else to go kill Mike. That's why they 405 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: needed to expedite this investigation. When I argued what at 406 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: trial was the police department never even called up Mike. 407 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: They never even called this guy up and to say, hey, 408 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: Dalia might kill you. You might want to get somebody 409 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: to protect you or get a security guard. Because they 410 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: never took it serious and all they were doing was setting. 411 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: They were trying. Okay, doctor Bethany Marshall, there's something toxic, 412 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: all right, but it's not the cops. I'm just listening 413 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: to all these facts and trying to assess the mindset 414 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: of Dippolito, and it seems to me that she's one 415 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: of these rare female sociopaths who uses her sexuality and 416 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: charm to preferentially relate to men so that she can 417 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: get something from them, that this is her emo in 418 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: the world. And she turns on that same kind of 419 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: charm in this YouTube video. So when I looked at it, 420 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: the cops says, you know your husband's dead. She burst 421 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: into tears. And you and I both know that when 422 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 1: you get bad news, the first stage is shocked, right, 423 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: you can't believe it. You're trying to take in the information, 424 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: you're rejecting it all at the same time, she is 425 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: prepared for this. She starts crying big crocodile tears. But 426 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: then she cozies up to the police officer who has 427 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: just given her the so called bad news, kind of 428 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: presses her body up against him a little bit. He 429 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: has his arm around her waist. It's a very sexualized interaction. 430 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: So here as she supposedly learns that her husband is dead, 431 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: she becomes very sexualized in her relationship with the police officer. 432 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know that that small fact just has stood 433 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: out to me about this case about you know what 434 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: you mentioned, you mentioned something that triggered what Brian Claypole 435 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: just said about claims that Dollie de Polito had tried 436 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: to poison the husband. This is after just six months 437 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: of marriage. They're on the honeymoon phase. Reports that Dollie 438 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: de Polito, the ex lover turn informant, testifies de Polito 439 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: tried to poison her husband before she hired a hit 440 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: man to kill him. Well, that's neither here nor there. 441 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: That's background information for you. But then men are just 442 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: wallets for her. Men are need satisfying objects. That's all 443 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: they are. Royce. Excuse me, Brian Claypool, I've got a 444 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: question for you. Your client, Dahlia de Polito, was she 445 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: ever a hooker? Absolutely not. Her art her contention was 446 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: that they mess at a Starbucks coffee shot. This is 447 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: just this is just fantasy and that the media wanted 448 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to propagate to make this a sex to your story. 449 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: But she was not as pretty sexy as it is. 450 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, guys were talking about Dahlia 451 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: de Polito, who is now fighting the fight on appeal, 452 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: has been fighting the fight on appeal and with me, 453 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a renowned trial lawyer that represented her at trial too. 454 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I've never seen anybody fight 455 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: as hard as Brian Claypool did at trial. But sadly 456 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: for him, there are some hurdles you just can't get over. 457 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: Listened to this. I'm sorry, d Ramsey. I'm not going 458 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: to call you. Thank you for coming. I'm sorry to 459 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: call you. Listen. We had to report of the disturbance 460 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: at your house and there were shots fired as your husband, 461 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: Michael Okay, I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. 462 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: He's been killed. Try to find up right now. We 463 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: need to We need to get I can't look. We 464 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: have to do our job. If you want to find 465 00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: his killer, we need you to calm down, need okay. Enemies, 466 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: is there anyone that want to hurt Okay, who want 467 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: to hurt him? Witness you said they saw a blackmail 468 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: running from you. I can't let you see him them them. 469 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: I cannot do this right now, I need you. I 470 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: need you to take to the station. I can't go 471 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: with these detectives if you want to help your husband, Okay, 472 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: if you want to help your husband, you need to 473 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: go through the station with these gentles and tell us 474 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: everything you know about who he knows, who's connected to. 475 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: Don't boy, We've already taken care of dogs without I'm 476 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: a control for right now. Everything's under control. Okay, I'm 477 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: just letting that soak in for just a moment um. 478 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: You know, Brian Claypool, you have a lot to contend 479 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: with at trial. But I know you're sitting down right now. 480 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: Maybe you need to lay down for this. Listen. Is 481 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: your husband, Michael, Okay, I'm sorry to tell you, man, 482 00:30:52,760 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: he's been killed. Killed man, try to tell we know 483 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: the comps are acting. What about Dahlia Midst All of 484 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: that tremors and shaking of her body, There wasn't any 485 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: real tears coming in the crying, the screaming, the bending 486 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: over Meryl's Streep. Wherever you are tonight, don't worry, Okay, 487 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: I play guilty to invoking Meryl Streep yet again. Doctor 488 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall's Psychoanalans joining us from Beverly Hills. What do 489 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: you make of all of that? In the midst of 490 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: screaming about the death of her husband. This is a sting. 491 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: The husband's alive, he's in on it. Did she actually 492 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: ask about her dog? Oh? She did. She asked about 493 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: the thought. I heard them say, yes, your dog's okays 494 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: with animal control. Did I hear that? Oh? I did? 495 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Jackie Okay. That's a detail I had missed after watching 496 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: this one hundred times. So Brian Claypool. She's in such 497 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: grief and shock, she asked as the dog day and Nancy, 498 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: all I can tell you is that what you just 499 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: played actually almost helped me almost win that second trial. 500 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: Just so we have a fair playing field, your listeners 501 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: need to know. At the second trial we had a 502 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: hung jury three to three and the two alternate jurors 503 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: were also voting to equip five to three. Why because 504 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: we argued and Ramsey, the guy you just played, Sergeant Ramsey, 505 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: testified on cross examination when I asked him questions. I 506 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: got him to admit that that was completely inappropriate what 507 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: that police departner did, that that went beyond the bounds 508 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: of fairness to go out and stage a fricking crime 509 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: scene and then go spouted off on social media. Why 510 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: aren't you addressing those issues because and properly posting something 511 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: on social media only impacts a trial. If one of 512 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: the jurars has seen not only seen the posting on 513 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: social media prior to trial, but has been so effective, 514 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: they can longer render a verdict that speaks the truth. 515 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: That is the law. So you can carry on all 516 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: you want to, Brian Claypool, but the law is what 517 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: I just said. And on jury selection in Vodire, which 518 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: coincidentally is French for to speak the truth, it was 519 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: your duty, Brian Claypool, to ask the jurors one by 520 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: one if they have been so affected by media by 521 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: TV that they cannot render a true verdict. And I 522 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: assume that you did do that because you're a good 523 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: trial lawyer. And I assume because they made it onto 524 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: the jury that they swore under oath they had not 525 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: been affected by social media or news accounts, which means 526 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: your argument can't carry the water. It's not worth a 527 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: hill of beans as far as an appellate court is concerned. 528 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: And I would like to point out that the appellate 529 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: court heard your argument as well, but while we're going 530 00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: take a listen to this. They bring in Officer Witty Jean, 531 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: the supposed hit man from the car. It's all weird. 532 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: You know who this guy is? Come down, You've never 533 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: seen him before. She just stared at him. Um. She 534 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: says she didn't know him, and then call it a resurrection. 535 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Police have another surprise for Delia Dippolito. 536 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Please come here, you come here. She sees her husband 537 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: and he's a love. The show Cops captures this moment 538 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 1: as well, come here, good here, Why not come here? Please? 539 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: What you're alive? I love that moment and I'm sure 540 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: a jury will too. You're going to jail today, christalssitation 541 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: from Rudder. You're under arrest. Did you hear what I 542 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: just told you? You kept saying I didn't do anything, dude, 543 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. Was that all you could think 544 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: of to say? They were accusing me of trying fad Man. 545 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: I's been called and no. So police have her in 546 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: the station. They then bring in the hitman, the undercover 547 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: cop and go, you know this guy? She goes no, 548 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: she's on tape negotiating with the hitman. Then they bring 549 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: in the husband and she learns for the first time 550 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: that he's actually alive. It was all a sting. What 551 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: can you imagine went through your client's mind at that 552 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: moment with me? Veteran trial lawyer Brian Claypool, who represented 553 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 1: Depolito at trial. Now, before you give Claypool too hard 554 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: of a time, you gotta remember that this trial was 555 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: tried one time before he got the case, so he 556 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: stuck with that transcript where Dahlia Dippolito has taken the 557 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: stand given all kinds of statements contrary to what he 558 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: then must argue to a jury. So what's going through 559 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: her mind, Brian? How did you put it to the 560 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: jury when she sees the hit man come in and 561 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,280 Speaker 1: she says, no, I've never seen him in my life. 562 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: When the cops have her on video and audio negotiating 563 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: a hit with him, Yeah, he and answered before I 564 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: answered that question, I wanted to recognize you made a 565 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: great point, so did Ray about the first trial where 566 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: she said it was for reality TV. So what we 567 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 1: had to do in the second trial is we had 568 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: to we couldn't call her as a witness because of 569 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: what you said, and Ray said, we could not call 570 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: her as a witness, because then the prosecutors would have 571 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: taken that testimony under oath from the first trial and 572 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: what have completely gutted the argument we were making in 573 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: the second trial. It's the first point I wanted to make. 574 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: Second point as to this video, when they're bringing in 575 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: Witty Jean and they're bringing in Mike Teppolito, what I 576 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: argued was I didn't go into the mind of Dally. 577 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: I just said, look, this is completely inappropriate police practice. 578 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 1: Is in fact, what is the Cops TV show doing 579 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: in a police station when they're about to arrest a 580 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: woman for alleged solicitation to commit murdered? Completely inappropriate, out 581 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: of bounds and unconstitutional. Okay, can we now address your 582 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: client in jail after hiring a hitman to kill her 583 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: husband and she sees the hitman walk into the police 584 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: station and then says, well, I don't know him. I 585 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: mean the fact that she died, it looks that clearly. 586 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: I agree with you, that's that's nonsensical. She should have 587 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 1: said she knew who he was and she and she 588 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: made a mistake on that. But with respect to Mike, 589 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: I mean, what would you what would you expect her 590 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: reaction to be when Mike walks in. She's been told 591 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: that Mike has been killed, and now Mike walks in. 592 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: So she was genuinely surprised at that. I bet she 593 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: was regarding the hitman. You said she made a mistake. 594 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: She outright lied because she couldn't say, yeah, I know him, 595 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: I hired him to kill my husband. So she said, no, 596 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: I've never seen him. She didn't hire him to kill 597 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: her husband. Look, she was supposed to be fifteen thousand dollars. 598 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: Who who? Who? Who goes on and tries to kill 599 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: somebody on credit? Gave a lot of people would be 600 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: so surprised at how many people, I'm telling you, you 601 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: keep saying, please, please, please, many many people put a 602 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: down payment on a hit. I mean you just saw 603 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: it a Tiger kid. You put down payment on a hit. Yeah, 604 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: you put a payment on a hit, and you pay 605 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: the rest with the deed is done. As a matter 606 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: of fact, that's pretty much soop. Maybe not that cheap, 607 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: but she really didn't want it done. That's what I 608 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,879 Speaker 1: argued in this second case, almost why she didn't give 609 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: any money. You know what, You know what, Brian Claypool, 610 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 1: If I'm ever charged with murder. Get ready because you're 611 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: still you're still you're going down swinging, You're still fighting 612 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: for Dahlia di Polito. Guys, whether you agree with us, 613 00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: if defense attorneys are not, and I don't, you gotta 614 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: respect somebody that never gives up, and that is Brian Claypole. 615 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: I gotta say that. So bottom line right now to 616 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: Ray Caputo, lead news anchor w DBA Morning News. Where 617 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 1: does the case stand now? Bottom line? Bottom line? She 618 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: is serving sixteen years in prison in a woman's prison 619 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: in the o'calla and Marion County, and she's not getting 620 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: out for a while, Nancy. But you know, in the 621 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, some might think that that punishment 622 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: isn't enough that this woman's going to be getting out 623 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: of jil Now. One thing, Nancy, she was on house 624 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: arrest for years between this happening and her finally getting convicted. 625 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: She's not a mother. She's thirty six years old. She 626 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: got pregnant while she's on house arrests. So this woman's 627 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: wife is sort of continuing to go as all this 628 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 1: has happened. Well, clearly the ankle monitor kept her from 629 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: leaving home, but she apparently had to visit her long 630 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: story short an appeal has gone up, that has been 631 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: a dinner. Well, for some reason, I've got a feeling 632 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: that we have not heard the last of Dahlia Depolito, 633 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,