1 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Titans Amy and Coach Mac Podcast, presented 2 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Look to the folks at 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Farm Bureau Health Plans when you need someone who understands 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: the exes and oh's of healthcare coverage. They've been protecting 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. I'm Ammy Wells. Thank 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us for the Titans Amy 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: and Coach Mac Podcast. Coach Mac, of course, is also here. Mac. 8 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: How are you. I'm doing good, Amy doing great, just 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: like everybody that's Titans fan right now, we're all feeling good. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: This is a great great failing to be able to 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: have an open date, it's hard to get. It's hard 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: to get, especially now with this set up the way 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: it is, where you only have one team out of 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: each conference that gets a bye, you've got to work 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: hard to get it. They worked hard to get it 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: and we are all enjoying it. The Tennessee Titans wrapped 17 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: up the regular season at twelve and five. As you said, Mac, 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: the only team in the AFC enjoying a buy right now. 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: So you're either getting ready to play or you are done. 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: So the Titans are in a good spot. But Before 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: we talk about that and what is to come for 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, I want to take a minute and 23 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: look back, because the Tennessee Titans got the win over 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans in Houston, wrapped up the regular season 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: with a victory. And in that game we saw the 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Titans have a great first half of football. Wait, you 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: see in those first two quarters that you liked so much, Well, 28 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: first of all, let's just let's think about our neighbors 29 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: at the North. You know, when they were playing a 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: team in our division that they had had to beat 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: to be able to have a chance to get in 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden got boat race. So my 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: reason for saying that is you can never take anybody 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: for granted in this league, and especially a division opponent, right, 35 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: And that's what we were facing when we went down 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: there at Houston. Houston had beaten us at home here 37 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: we had not played well, but whatever the circumstances were, 38 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: they had they had a win over and so they 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: had some confidence that they could beat the Tennessee Titans again. 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: And there was a great representation of Titans fans down there. 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: I thought that was outstanding. But the first half, I 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: mean we started it out really well, and especially you know, 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 1: with David Culley making the decision erroneously that he made 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: at the end of the half to give us another possession. 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: And so when you're twenty one to zero at half, 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: you feel like you've got a pretty good chance if 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: you can keep your foot on their neck going into 48 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: the second half of boat racing them. And it didn't happen. 49 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: And you know, because the Titans had won the toss 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: in the first half and they were going to get 51 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: the ball in the second half. I thought they came 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: out with a very good idea of trying to hit 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: an explosive very early to put it up to a 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: four score game. When Tanny Hill missed Julio Jones, you 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: just kind of started getting that feeling if you've been 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: around this league enough, we may have given them just 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: a little bit of an opening to hang around. And 58 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: that's what happened in the second half. But the first 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: half you felt like that you really had control of it, 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: especially scoring that touchdown right before the half to put 61 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: you up twenty one to zero. And the second half, 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: the third quarter got a little dicey. Mac. It's so 63 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: funny you say it that way. Because in my notes 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: it literally says in the third quarter, things got a 65 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: little dicey. Well, does this mean that we are starting 66 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: to talk the same Well, it's it's because we both 67 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: know what we're talking about. I mean, because we were 68 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: both at the same game, right, I mean, I was 69 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: doing it from the booth with Mike Keith. You were 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: doing it on the field on the sideline, and you 71 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: just started getting that feeling that you're letting them stick around. 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: And plus amy, they had nothing to lose. The Texans didn't, right, 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: and so they came out, you know, we want to 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: talk with some a little bit of football here. I mean, 75 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: they came out and started spread it out, went empty 76 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: and let the young quarterback Davis Mills stand back there 77 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: and start throwing, which is what he can do. And 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, you had a thirty 79 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: six year old Danny Amndola that became uncoverable and we 80 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: had a problem. And the other thing was is not 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: only did we did we have a problem stopping them 82 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: defensively in the third quarter, we went three and out 83 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: three times in a row. So they were getting the 84 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: ball back when they had the momentum, and as I say, 85 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: as you and I both said, it got a little dicey. 86 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: I just think we're turning into the same person, and 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I'm very okay with that. I think that's cool. What 88 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: do you take away from a game like that, a 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: game that so clearly has two distinct halves, one that 90 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: you want to keep and replicate and one that has 91 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: some things that need to get fixed. You did what 92 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: you had to do, and then that was the biggest thing, 93 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, we did what 94 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: we had to do as far as to put the 95 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: game away. Now, I think, really the play that Ryan 96 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Tannehill made where he was like Lazarus raising from the dead, 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you know, because Mike Keith called it, said he's buried, 98 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: and he really was. You were on the field and 99 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: saw it. I mean, he disappeared under the rush and 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: all of a sudden came out of it and was 101 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: able to find Nick Westbrook Akina up the right sideline 102 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: offensively for a thirty six yard game, which was the 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: play of the game the way the game had had 104 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: started out. Because I mean, and really, that play amy 105 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: to me and I think probably to our listeners, kind 106 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: of encapsulated what this season has been, you know, being 107 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: able to come back from some real obstacles, and you know, 108 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: so we did what we had to do and finally 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: we got to stop and then we got the four 110 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: minute offense working and were able to close the game out, 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: which is what good teams do. Now, you would like 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: to have, you know, stepped on their throat in the 113 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: third quarter and made it to where guys were the 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: starters were watching in the fourth quarter, but that didn't happen. 115 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: But they did what they had to do. And so 116 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: the thing that it does do as a coach looking 117 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: at that, because you've accomplished everything you wanted to accomplish. 118 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: When the season was starting, you wanted the number one seed, 119 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: and whether you were twelve and five or whether you 120 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: were fifteen and two, it didn't matter. The number one 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: seed is the number one seed, and that was the 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: best that you could do. But the fact that they 123 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: were able to come back and get it done, finished 124 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: the job that they went down there to do. That's 125 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: what I take out of it, because the what you 126 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: can do, there's corrections that you can make off of that. 127 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: But you know, as well as I do, just the 128 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: whole vibe and the feeling around this organization now is 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: not one of over confidence, but it's surely a feeling 130 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: of confidence. And that's what this team has played with 131 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: all year. This team amy has stayed true to their 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: DNA all year, regardless of who we've had playing mac. 133 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: In this game, we saw Julio Jones get his first 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: touchdown as a Titan. A J. Brown had a touchdown, 135 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Anthony Ferkster had a touchdown. Finally, we were seeing our 136 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: offensive playmakers do what we have been waiting for them 137 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: to all collectively be doing, and that's make an impact 138 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: in the game. Are we finally getting the Titans offense 139 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: that we have been waiting for since August? Well, let's 140 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: add in that this was a second game with the 141 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: offensive line was together, starters as a whole, and the thing, 142 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: the thing that we were missing, We're going to get 143 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: back in the big guy you know, back there. And 144 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: so yes, I mean when this thing was all put together, 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: this is what you could envision if everybody was healthy 146 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: at the same time. Because it matters who you have playing. 147 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Let's just say that this team went through ninety one 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: players this year and really brought in even more than that. 149 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: You know that didn't that didn't have to play. You 150 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: could probably say if twenty people we brought in that 151 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: were on the roster that didn't have to play that 152 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: We're brand new to this team too, so what they 153 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: went through personnel wise was unprecedented. But starting out, yes, 154 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: this is what you were envision If everyone would have 155 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: stayed healthy or somewhat healthy, we were just very fortunate, Amy, 156 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: and I think you and I both agree with this, 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: and hopefully our million subscribers agree with this too. The 158 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: fact that Ryan Tannehill was able to make every game 159 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: was a huge plus for this football team because some 160 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: teams in this league that lost their quarterback, their starting 161 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: dude for a while, we're not able to fare as 162 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: well as we did. All of the sudden, this team 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: seems to have their health knock on wood, and it 164 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: seems like that's one of the strengths of this Titans 165 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: team as they go into the playoffs, is that after 166 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: this bye week they could potentially have a pretty healthy roster. 167 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: Well they can. They're going to have available roster, which 168 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: is a plus. And the other thing that came out 169 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: of this, Aimy was you have guys that have game 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: experience now that helped you win games that you probably 171 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season when we were in 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: training camp, you weren't counting on That helps a lot too. 173 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Now hopefully we will have some Mike Vrabel will have 174 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: some decisions to make on game day as far as 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: putting down healthy in actives, rather than sometime during the 176 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: season when we had no decision to make. It was 177 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: already made for you because those people we weren't healthy 178 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: enough to play. And so that that's a big plus. 179 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: But it's also a plus that you've had guys that 180 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: have not only gotten experience, but have you contributed. And 181 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, just look at our two backs. Look at 182 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: look at Foreman and Hilliard. You know what they have 183 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: done when they had to come in and play and 184 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: play when Henry was gone. I mean, all of a sudden, 185 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: now these were guys that are on the street, that 186 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: were without a job that now have contributed to getting 187 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: their team their team. It's their team now too, to 188 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: a first round by So those are a lot of 189 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: good things. Nick Westbrook, Akeina, how much did we talk 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: about him during training camp? I can remember you and 191 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: I and Mike Keith and Ashley Farrell being down there 192 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: at Tampa Bay when we practiced against them, and when 193 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: we were doing all of our segments coming out of 194 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: those practices daily asking who looked good today, and we'd 195 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: always say Nick Westbrook Akeina Well. I think some people 196 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 1: thought we were just saying that because AJ and Julio 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: weren't out there, so we had to say somebody. Well, 198 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: we were saying it because he was doing well, and 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: he's had a nice season for us. That's been big. Now, 200 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: put on your coaching hat as if you have take 201 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: it off. How do you balance in a bye week 202 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: where guys obviously need and deserve a bit of a break, 203 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: also doing some of that preparation stuff, not necessarily for 204 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: your next opponent because you don't know who that's going 205 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: to be, but doing some of that internal reflection, reviewing, 206 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: clean up that you now have the opportunity to do. 207 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: How do you balance the two? Well, you put that 208 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: very well, and that's exactly what you do. It's internal. 209 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: You don't really everybody needs rest right now, and we 210 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: talk about the team being healthy. Nobody's completely healthy right 211 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: now after eighteen weeks of National Football League football, But 212 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: the rest that they get and plus Amy, I mean, 213 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: you and I are no different than the team that 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: adrenaline shot that you get now propelling you into what 215 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: this is getting ready to be. That heals up those 216 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: bumps and bruises a lot quicker. It just does. It 217 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: always has, it always will. But what they did, Mike 218 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: Vrabel was very smart with it, as he always is, 219 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: you know. He talked about having each player reflect on 220 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: what they maybe could do better, one or two things, 221 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: not just a massive overhaul, and then see if it coincided, 222 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: we'll put He and the coaching staff thought work on 223 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: that a little bit, but then give them time away. 224 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: He gave them Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. They're going to 225 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: be gone, which is great, I mean, and they're going 226 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: to be able to sit back with their families and 227 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: watch the games, but just be able to woo saw 228 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: a little bit decompress, which is really important going into 229 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: this thing. So's it's big, and you're right, you don't 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: concentrate on one particular team. You concentrate on yourself. The 231 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: people that are breaking down films for them have broken 232 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: down the potential opponents. We've already played some of them. 233 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: We haven't played Cincinnati, we haven't played the Raiders. They 234 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: would have all had that stuff broken down the other 235 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: thing you don't ever want to do amy. I mean, 236 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of like getting ready to play after a 237 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: bye week, or it's like getting ready to play in 238 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: an opener. You don't want to overburden your players because 239 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: here's what you want to do. You want to give 240 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: them just enough information so they can go out on 241 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: a regular schedule and get ready. First and second down 242 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, you know, third down on Thursday, red zone 243 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: on Friday, bring it all together. But if you start 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: overburdening them, then all of a sudden, you are slowing 245 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: down their play because they don't need all that information. 246 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: They need bullet points, they need pertinent information. But you 247 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: get a lot more information as a coach than you 248 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: need to impart to your players. There are some areas 249 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: of this Titans team where adjustments need to be made. 250 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: You said that each player is kind of individually doing 251 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: that on a whole. What's one or two things that 252 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: the Titans need to correct in this postseason. They're doing 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: a nice job of pressure in the quarterback. You know 254 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: what they'd like to be able to do is tighten 255 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: their coverage up some I mean that's extremely important. They've 256 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: done a nice job offensively running the football. I think 257 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: they would like to incorporate now more that they've got 258 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: everybody back together. This team is a pretty devastating offense 259 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: when the play action pass from under center is working 260 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: really well. And for that to happen, we've experienced it 261 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: at how much people really come up and stack the 262 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: box on us. We were able to stay with our 263 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: DNA of running it, but people were really playing a 264 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: little more coverage, you know, not thinking that we could 265 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: just devastate them with a run game. You'll you'll see 266 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: I think you'll see that coming back. And plus we 267 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: mentioned the offensive line, and it's no small thing. They've 268 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: been together as a starting unit for two full games, 269 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: two full games. They still need to be able to 270 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: coalesce and come together, you know a little bit more. 271 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: There's always things, always things that you can tweak, you know. 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: It's it's never a perfect scenario in the National Football 273 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: League getting a team ready to play. Let's talk about 274 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the games that are going to be happening this weekend. 275 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: The Tennessee Titans are not one of the teams that 276 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: will be playing. They will be at home napping. But 277 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: there are games that are happening on Saturday, the earlier 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: game at three thirty Central Time is the Raiders and 279 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals, and Saturday night the Patriots and the Bills play. 280 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: Then on Sunday nights Stealers and the Chiefs. In that group, 281 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: is there a matchup that you are the most intrigued by? 282 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Raiders Bengals. I've started to break down those teams just 283 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: because we haven't played. I mean, I've watched you, not 284 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: an in depth breakdown, but just kind of to find 285 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: out who's who in the zoo in case that is 286 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: one of our opponents, and that's going to be an 287 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: interesting matchup because the Bengals can push the ball down 288 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: the field and the Raiders can pressure with four really 289 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: really well, that to me is going to be a 290 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: very very interesting matchup As a coach, when you're watching 291 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: all of these games, or even do you watch these games? 292 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely watch every one of them. I'll watch every one 293 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: of them and take notes on every one of them 294 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: like I do during the year. I mean, yeah, I've 295 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: got a game watching chart, you do. I don't sit 296 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: there with chips and dip and just a chart, sure, 297 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: well kind of a chart well to down distance, personnel, field, position, score, 298 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: decisions when they blitz, when they don't blitz all of it? 299 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Do you do this all season? Yeah? Wait a minute, 300 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: what you do this all season? What do you think 301 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: I do? I thought you just kept it in your 302 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: break you just kind of watched it and logged it away. 303 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: And well, but you have an actual physical chart that 304 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: you chart this stuff on for sure all the time. 305 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's how you do when you're coaching. 306 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: You think when you're watching tape, it's coaching. You just 307 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: sit there and watch it. Yeah, well wrong, I've been 308 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: doing this for so long. I didn't know. I didn't 309 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: know there was a way you could chart it. Well, 310 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: sure there is. I mean you can, and you can 311 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: make up your own I mean people, every coach I've 312 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: ever been around has their own different way they watch it. 313 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: You know, whether they you can mark down down a 314 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: distance and now you know, you've got now the way 315 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: that that the computers work. They can break it down 316 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: for you in so many ways. But when you're physically 317 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: sitting there watching it. If if you're a coordinator, yeah, 318 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: you will take Friday when everybody's gone and just sit 319 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: and go through a game and call it off of 320 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: the off of you take a game that you haven't 321 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: watched against your opponent and call it off of the 322 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: off of that and didn't chart and see if everything 323 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: matches up to what your game plan looks like. Wow, 324 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: that's a tremendous amount of work. Well, I mean, if 325 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: you want to do it right, that's what you do. 326 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: I know a lot of times when I'm broadcasting, I 327 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: talk about goat roping and things like that, But there's 328 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of football in there too. There's a lot 329 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: of football in there. I didn't know you still did 330 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: that because I watched games with you and you don't. 331 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's other things going on, Like 332 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: if you and I are sitting watching a ball game, 333 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: like you're not charting it on a piece of paper, 334 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: but there's also usually like external stimuli there. You're probably 335 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: not as dialed in. That's yeah. Yeah, when I really 336 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: watch a game, I like to be completely by Here's 337 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: who I like with me when I'm watching the game, 338 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Coach Mac. That's it. That's it. Yes, Oh all right, 339 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: well I'll remember that going forward. Well, I'll never tell 340 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: you you can't watch the game with me. I'll just 341 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: watch it again later, watch again. Yeah, get the home 342 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: field advantage with healthcare coverage from Farm Bureau Health Plans. 343 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: They've been protecting Tennessee and since nineteen forty seven. Mac. 344 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: That was a treat for our million listeners because I 345 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: think we all just learned something right there. But we 346 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: have another treat, and that treat I guess I should 347 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: just tell you my line of thinking here. Okay, So 348 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: you and I had an interview that we did and 349 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: we loved it. It was a fantastic interview. We had 350 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: such a good time during this conversation, but kind of 351 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: through a series of unfortunate events, it ended up on 352 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor and we never got a chance 353 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: to use it. So I'm thinking now that because we 354 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: are getting bonus football with the playoffs, we should also 355 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: probably provide some bonus content in terms of a never 356 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: before heard interview. I love it, I mean absolutely, and 357 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: it's every interview we did was important because we vetted 358 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: these people pretty hard and brought some really nice interviews 359 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: to the Titans Amy coach Mack one million subscribers that 360 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: you won't get anywhere else. And so this was a 361 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: good and this is one that's really really close to 362 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: my heart because and it's a good thing. We're doing 363 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: it for the playoffs because I experienced a huge playoff 364 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: win with this guy as my dude under center. So 365 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: here is our interview with former Arizona Cardinals and Denver 366 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Broncos quarterback Jake the Snake Plumber. Coach Mac I'm so 367 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: excited about this guest, and this is just gonna be 368 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And I know usually I do 369 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: a big bio, a big explanation of who they are 370 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: and what they do. I'm not doing that today because 371 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: I feel like we just need to get into it. 372 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna start off by saying, our guest 373 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: is Jake Plummer. He was an NFL quarterback for ten years. 374 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: He played for the Cardinals, he played for the Broncos. 375 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: He's a standout quarterback at Arizona State. But there's so 376 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: much more to Jake Plummer than just those things. And 377 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the one to tell the story. 378 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: I want to him to tell the story. So Jake, 379 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us today. And 380 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: we've got to start off at the very very beginning. 381 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: You've accomplished so many things, but we've got to go 382 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: all the way back to high school. You grew up 383 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: in a town of fifty like five ozho Is that correct? Oh? No, no, 384 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: not quiet. First, thanks for having me on the show. 385 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited anytime I get to talk to Coach Mac 386 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: or anything involved with him, So it's a pleasure to 387 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: be on the show. But I did spend some time 388 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: in a small little town when I was really young, 389 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: and Smiley Creek in the middle of the Sawtooth Mountains, 390 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: so that was maybe fifty people. Then I went to school. 391 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: My mom taught first through sixth grade. We rode the 392 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: bus for thirty minutes. So I lived in the wilderness 393 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: and that was really good roots to grow up with, 394 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: good foundation for, you know, appreciation for nature and being 395 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: okay with being by herself outside and learning how to 396 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: climb a tree, throw rocks, catch fish with your bare hand, 397 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: fall off a rock, get backed up, and climb up 398 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: at you know. So that was that was my original 399 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: beginnings there. And then we did move to Boise, Idaho, 400 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 1: which I know it used to be thought of as 401 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: a po dunk little city, but it was pretty big 402 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: then and it's grown for sure in the last few years. 403 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: And uh, definitely a nice place to go to school 404 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: and to be raised because I was able to play 405 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: all three sports. In some places, you know, with a 406 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of student athletes, you know, it 407 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: could have been tough where you had to pick and choose. 408 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: But I was able to play all three, which, uh 409 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: was sure the funnest time in my life. Being able 410 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: to play football, basketball, baseball, and then dabble and tennis, golf, handball, 411 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: anything with a ball in a paddle or trampoline. I 412 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: was all over it. Jake. You know, Amy started this 413 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 1: off by saying she really didn't want a long introduction, 414 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: and I could tell her, you don't really have to 415 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: say much. All you have to say is the snake, 416 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,360 Speaker 1: and most most everybody knows. And you know, I've told 417 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: a few people I said, hey, I'm doing I'm doing 418 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: a podcast this week with Jake, and the first words 419 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: out of their mouth are the snake. And so that 420 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 1: to me is it's it's so cool to talk to you. 421 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: And let's go a little bit more on that. Because 422 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: being an all around athlete like you were, what drove 423 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: you to Arizona State? How did that all culminate? Tell 424 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: us about that? First, must say, you know, the snake, 425 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: the original snake. You know who he was, Kenny Stabler. 426 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: Well absolutely, let me just say this. You picked up 427 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: the mantle of the snake very well, Jake, because thank you. 428 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: If anybody of this generation here's the snake, they say, Plumber, 429 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: go ahead, Uh huh. Well, I'm glad. I'm glad that 430 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: it's a good connotation, not a bad connotation with the snakes. 431 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, I was raised two older brothers. 432 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: My mom and dad. They split when we were younger. 433 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: So I have a great mom that was really supportive 434 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: of anything I wanted to do and be involved in 435 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: as far as sports and athletics. And I had told 436 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: the brothers that would not allow for anything but the 437 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: best because they were super competitive. They pushed me. They 438 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't let me throw the little football when I was 439 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: a kid. You know, I wanted to play with the 440 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: one I could hold onto myself. So I learned how 441 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: to throw a full sized football when I was just 442 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: a little guy without even wrapping my thumb around it. 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: And I could whip that thing. I could whip it sidearm, 444 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: you know, as far as I could to keep up 445 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: with my brothers. So you know, when it came time 446 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: to narrow it down to what sport was going to 447 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: be the one that could get me an education. Football 448 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: became that sport after going to the Stanford quarterback receiver 449 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: camp and Bill Walsh was there, Terry Schase and just 450 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: legendary coaches, and I was able to stand out, you know, 451 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: a skinny little guy from a small town Boise, Idaho 452 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: that wasn't a five star blue chip recruit. I stood out, 453 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: and I set a record in a foot speed drill, 454 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: and I could throw the ball just as well as 455 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: any of those other blue chippers. And so my name 456 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 1: got out there and I started getting really recruited by 457 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: a lot of teams. But the very first team to 458 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: call me was Arizona State and Bonnie Petrino, Danny Cozetto. 459 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: They had ties to University of Idaho, so they had 460 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: roots kind of in Idaho where they recruited, and they 461 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: were aware of me there and they watched, you know, 462 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: some film, and from day one, when the first time 463 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: they could call you on the phone, they called and 464 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: offered me a full ride scholarship along with a lot 465 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: of other schools that we're banging down the door, and 466 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: recruited me they were the only ones that from day 467 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: one said you have the scholarship if you want it. 468 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: And then the main point to decide to go there 469 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: was that no other coach instilled in me the confidence 470 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: that Bruce Snyder did when he said these few words 471 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: when he looked me in the eye of my living 472 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: room at Boise and said, we're building something special ariz 473 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: On the state and if you are our quarterback, I 474 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: believe we have the chance to be a national champion. 475 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: And he was the only coach that had that much 476 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: confidence in me, And ultimately that was why I went 477 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: because when a coach like him, when they say that 478 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: you want to go see what they got going on, 479 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: they want to want to go see if they could 480 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: pull it off. And sure enough, we came mere seconds 481 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: away from winning the national title my senior year. So 482 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: a big decision to be made by a young eighteen 483 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: year old at the time. Was support from my family, 484 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: but no way they weren't, you know, making me decide 485 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: anyway except wherever my heart was, and that's where it 486 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: was down in the desert, which you know, I'm a 487 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: mountain boy. I know trees and lakes and rivers and 488 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: the desert is not like that. But I went down 489 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: there and uh, I didn't look back. I ended up 490 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: starting my freshman year and had a great learning experience 491 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: through four years with some phenomenal coaches Bobby Petrino, Hugh Jackson. 492 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was coached by some amazing, amazing coaches 493 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: at a young age when I really needed it. And 494 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: it was that confidence that Bruce Snyder gave me. That's 495 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: why I went there with that confidence. I mean, he 496 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: also wasn't kidding you guys did have a lot of 497 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: success out there. What kind of was there a time 498 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: when did you realize that you could take this thing 499 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: to the next level and really utilize that confidence that 500 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: you had gained there and be successful in the NFL. 501 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't too concerned with the NFL, and 502 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: I was a boyhood dream that was something that I 503 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: knew that, you know, maybe was something that could happen. 504 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: But knowing football and watching friends that have been injured 505 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: and never played again, and being in a game that 506 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: is a rough sport that you know, like I said, 507 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: you might be there one day and rehabbing the next. 508 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I knew that my best sought to do anything was 509 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: to give every every ounce of effort and every little 510 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: fabric of my soul to try to turn that team 511 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: into a winner. And it was fun to go to Arizon, 512 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: a state. I'd never heard of them. The only time 513 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: I'd ever heard of the Sun Devils was when Jay 514 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: Bradley got sent home by our teacher in the fourth grade. 515 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: He got sent home by our teacher because he had 516 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: a shirt that said sun Devils and she said, you 517 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: cannot wear that stuff in this school and says the Devil, 518 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: and so he had to go home and change his shirt. 519 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: And that was the only time I ever heard of 520 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: the Sun Devils. So for me, I wanted to go 521 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: down there and leave a mark. I wanted to go 522 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: down there and not just be another QB that came 523 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: through on a national title run with USC or with 524 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: poor to State. I didn't just want to be another number, 525 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: another guy to come through the door and this amazing program. 526 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to help build a program. And when we 527 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: got down there, my confidence was high. I didn't I 528 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: went after not being the starter, but I earned the 529 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: backup role in a competition with one of my best 530 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: buds to this day still Jason rodugo up here in 531 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: Washington State got thrown into the game with a sprained 532 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: ankle that I'd suffered the week before, my first live 533 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: action in the Pac ten at the time, and I 534 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: didn't look back. I went and basically, you know, I 535 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: stood up in a team meeting and got upset with 536 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: the players because we lost a game to Cal that 537 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: we should have won, and they were laughing and having 538 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: a great time on the plane and playing cards, and 539 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: some of them had snuck some alcohol onto the plane, 540 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this doesn't seem right to me. So 541 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: I stood up as a true freshman and said, you know, 542 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: we got a better team than this, and our seniors 543 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: deserved to go out and style with a bowl game 544 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: at least, So I think we could do a lot 545 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: better if we just focus. And no one told me 546 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: to do that. I just I went there for the 547 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 1: reason Bruce Snyder came to me, and that was to 548 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: try to win a national title. And I didn't really 549 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: know any better. I was kind of kind of clueless 550 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: and just spoke what I felt was in my heart 551 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: and it resonated with the team, so they looked at 552 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: me as their leader, even though I was just a 553 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: skinny one hundred and seventy four pound kid from Boise, Idaho, 554 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: true freshman, eighteen years old. It was a great question 555 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: by Amy, and what a what an honest and beautiful answer. 556 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 1: And let me just piggyback on that. Players gravitated to 557 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: you because they could sense that you not only had 558 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: confidence in yourself, you always had confidence in your teammates. 559 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: And that was a great, great thing. You made a 560 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: mark in the National Football League there, and I think 561 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: that just exemplifies you know, what you were about. And 562 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: that's and then you know, I had the privilege of 563 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: being your head coach, you know, for a couple of years, 564 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: and and the snake was appropriate because you were going 565 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: to do whatever it took to get the team over 566 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: the top. And sometimes let's just be honest at the time, Jake, 567 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: let me you know, you know who are receiver coaches 568 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: here at the Titans now right? It's Rob Moore? Okay, Yes, okay, Cadillac. 569 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: How about the time when you and Rob and I 570 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: there's no other head coach, nor nor stand out NFL 571 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: players that can say this on a set before the game, 572 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: before the vote came out to see whether we're going 573 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: to build a new stadium, Jake Plummer coach Mack Rob 574 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Moore door to door with a Fox television crew, waking 575 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: people up, others coming with curlers in their hair, kids 576 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: eating cereal and saying would you please come vote for 577 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: this stadium. I tell people that story and they can't 578 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: believe it. So I said, Rob, tell these people here. 579 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: He says, telling the truth. So I'm asking now, is 580 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: that the truth? Snake? Did we do that? It's a 581 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: total truth. You just went through a gamut of a 582 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. And I appreciate your candidates about just 583 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: who I was as a player. You know, my biggest 584 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: attribute was that I never gave up on a play, 585 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: and I always thought the best of my teammates, and 586 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: sometimes that also was one of my biggest flaws. So 587 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: all through it though, I always worked my hardest, and 588 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: I felt like if I was a quarterback and I 589 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: worked harder than anybody else, then it gave no one 590 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: else an excuse to not do the same thing. So 591 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: they kind of hated me at times when they wanted 592 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: the day off working out in the offseason. You know, 593 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't come in on a Friday and half asset 594 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: and go home. I'd come in and go as hard 595 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: as I could, or I'd go just how I knew 596 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: how to go, and that was one hundred percent. So 597 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: that would raise the level. And so that's how I 598 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: made it through all those years. I mean, ASU the 599 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: Rose Bowl was a phenomenal season, being a Heisman candidate 600 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: to represent my team. That team sent about I think 601 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: eighteen guys off that the starting twenty two spent some 602 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: time in the league, so we were Our coaches recruited well, 603 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: but they coached us how to play ball too. A 604 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: lot of them went on and had very good careers, 605 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: long careers in the NFL, including myself. But to get 606 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: drafted by the Cardinals, you know, it was it was interesting. 607 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: I kind of at the time wanted to try something new, 608 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: go somewhere new. But then when I got drafted there, 609 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: it made the assimilation process and the move to the 610 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: next level so much easier. I had a support staff, 611 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: I had friends, I didn't have to move. And then 612 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: getting there again, it was a chance to take a 613 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: team that had not much respect, had no real rich 614 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: history in the last fifty years to speak of, and 615 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: was able to go in there with the right attitude. 616 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: Thrown in against Philly down on the two yard line, 617 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, going in and say into that huddle, let's 618 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: go ninety eight yards right now, you know, you know, 619 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: you mopos, Let's do this with confidence and with cluelessness. 620 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: And with Larry Centers sitting next to me, He's pulling 621 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: his eyelid down looking at me, and I said, did 622 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: you get something in your eye? And he goes, no, baby, 623 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: it's the eye of the tiger. So you know, they 624 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: loved me for the for what you said, coach. They 625 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: loved me for my kind of my cluelessness. I just 626 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: was out there to play ball. You threw out a 627 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: ball in a field in the middle of nowhere. I 628 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: would have done the same thing as I did when 629 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: I had my uniform on representing the Cardinals. And that 630 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: season was amazing. The build up to beat in Dallas 631 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: was what was really remarkable. The Cardiac Cards. I mean, 632 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: we we went through three games there where we were 633 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: down and out, some of it because of my play, 634 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: but we were We never gave up, and that was 635 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: something that that team embodied was just no matter what 636 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the score was, guys, let's let's keep fighting in klawn 637 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: And we had some phenomenal competitors Kwamie Lasseter rest in peace. 638 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: You know, Ronnie McKinnon, you know some amazing, amazing players 639 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: that really embodied you know, what we were trying to 640 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: do there. And I say this all the time. I 641 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: didn't win a Super Bowl ring, but that season was 642 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: about as equitable as a Super Bowl championship to some 643 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: teams as it was to the Cardinals, because now they're 644 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: still there, they're in that city, they have a beautiful 645 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: stadium and a fan base now. And like Coach said, 646 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: we went around trumping for the vote, vote yes on 647 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: three oh one. I remember standing in the day of 648 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: the vote on a rock by the church church down 649 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: in the Questrian Trail, saying vote yes on three oh one. 650 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: People are walking by going, oh, plumber, snake, what's up? 651 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: What's up with you? Like, just vote yes. We need 652 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: to stay here. You know, we worked not only on 653 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: the field, but often in a political realm that when 654 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: you think about, you don't see that very often now. 655 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: But it was a lot of fun. I loved that team. 656 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I loved you know you, Coach Mac. We're so fun 657 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: to just be around day to day, working that staff 658 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: we had, you know, we all loved and respected each other. 659 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: A lot, and not really is what made it so special. 660 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: I've got to know what it is like playing for 661 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: Coach Mac. I know what it's like working with him 662 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: as a broadcaster. I gotta know what coach Coach Mac 663 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: is like. You know, there's a lot of coaches out 664 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: there that they embody the word coach, and I mean 665 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: that not necessarily in all the positive ways you would think, 666 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: but there are coaches that are like, buy the book 667 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: and drive you well. Coach was that kind of coach. 668 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: But he was also so relatable and very very much 669 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: in tune with you as a person and as a 670 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: human and could understand like, hey, you know, you maybe 671 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: having a bad day, or you had a bad day, 672 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: let's work through this. And his staff also embodied that 673 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: because some coaches, like I said, they're coaches to the 674 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: t and they're they're they're from that same DNA and 675 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: they don't allow for any weakness. They don't allow for 676 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: anything other than you know the best constantly. And Coach Mac, 677 00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: you know what I can say about you as you 678 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: made us feel even then we had a bad day, 679 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: that we were still important and you still loved us 680 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: and you still wanted to work with us and all 681 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: Sharah One another story, Well, my best friend at the time, 682 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: Tie Hamilton, who's still my best friend. He would come 683 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: to the games and Coach Mac met him, you know, 684 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: once or twice after a game, and Tye always says 685 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: it was crazy because he was standing outside of a game, 686 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: outside of the ropes, couldn't get in to come see me. 687 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I was busy, and Coach Mack's like, hey, ty come here, 688 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: and Ty's like, whoa coach Mack remembered who I was, Like, 689 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: that's who you are, coach. I mean you you treated 690 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: everybody the same, You treated everybody with love and respect. 691 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: And so that's the kind of coach Coach Mack was 692 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: when I played for him, a coach that you wanted 693 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: to play hard. For a coach you wanted to do 694 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: your best so that the success wasn't just for yourself 695 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: but was for everybody, including him. And those were some 696 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: fun years. They were really hard. We let go of 697 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot of that team in ninety eight. We lost 698 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: a lot of real solid foundation players that you know, 699 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: Jamir Miller, Thomas Brown, Larry Sinners. I mean, you go 700 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: down the list of these guys that were really That's 701 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: why we did it in ninety eight. Then we let 702 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: them go, but we still fought our asses off, we 703 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: still fought hard, we still tried, and that was because 704 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: coaching stilled in us the belief that we did matter, 705 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: that we were important, every one of us. And uh no, 706 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: I'll never forget that, Jake. Uh. You know that's very 707 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: kind of you. Uh. And I want to touch just 708 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 1: a little bit on your your your Denver career because 709 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: I remember you know, as you said, the salary cap 710 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: was was crushing us and they weren't going to bring 711 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: back a lot of players. And then it got to 712 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: that point with you you had a chance. I said, Jake, look, 713 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you get an opportunity, you need 714 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: you need to explore these other opportunities. And then I 715 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: was so proud of you as to what you did 716 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: and the way you went to Denver, because let's be honest, 717 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: going to Denver as a quarterback when you did all right, 718 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,479 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to follow in the footsteps of Alway, right, 719 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: I mean, because that's that's what it is out there. 720 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: But you made your mark out there and I was 721 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: so proud of you in that part of your career. Well, 722 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: thank you. I never really ever set out to follow 723 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: anyone's footsteps, right to kind of make my own and 724 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: obviously always legend and now Manning's legend lives there so grandiose, 725 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I embraced it, you know. I I 726 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,839 Speaker 1: was excited to go to a team that was all 727 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: about winning and focused on the players and legitimately building 728 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: a championship contender every year. And it was hard to 729 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: leave the valley, but at the time of my career, 730 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 1: it was the right time and the right place to go. 731 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: And we came close. You know. Oh five was a 732 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: great year. We almost made it to the Super Bowl 733 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: as AFC champs. We lost to Pittsburgh at home, which 734 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: was it was hard. That was not devastating, but at 735 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 1: the time it was a tough loss to take because 736 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: that was my boyhood dream. The reason I was doing 737 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: what I was doing and putting myself through all the 738 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: aches and pains and all the media wanted to scrutinize 739 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 1: you over everything, and that's why I did it, was 740 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: to win that Super Bowl. So to come that close 741 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: and not get it was tough, but it was all right. 742 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: I was never one that was going to play until 743 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't walk anymore. I wanted to go on, you know, 744 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: after my career and do fun things like I still 745 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: am doing now, having my brain intact, audi intact and 746 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: able to be active. But gosh, Denver was a fun 747 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: place to go. You know. We we we had a 748 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: team of of extremely foundational, you know, smart veterans that 749 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: knew how to come to work, knew what to take 750 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: care of, and we were provided for as a team. 751 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, anything we needed we got it from mister Boland. 752 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: And it was not a start contrast, but a lot 753 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: different than in Arizona, where you know, you know, it 754 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: was just not quite the same spending wise on the players, 755 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: and for me it was an exciting time again, a 756 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: chance to go play for Shanahan and kind of see 757 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: what it feels like to go thirteen and three a 758 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: couple of times. Is a lot of fun. You made 759 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: your mark there, snake, you made your not an easy 760 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: place to do it. They are still searching for a guy, 761 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: and uh, at the time, you know, they cast me 762 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: out after four years, but now they looked back and 763 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: they're like, damn, you know, we had a pretty good 764 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: but the snake was here. What they've gone through and 765 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: it was just you know, for me, again, I was 766 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: kind of clueless. I went into it. That was kind 767 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: of you know, my mymo was not clueless to myself 768 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: and who I was and what I was doing, but 769 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: just clueless to the whole you know, the norms that 770 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: have been set down by the years of the league. 771 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: You know, I did things that I felt were right 772 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: for my team and that that may have been you know, 773 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: pushing them harder to go through workouts on a Friday, 774 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: or it may have been you know, coming out in 775 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: the jockstrap, high white socks and just my helmet on 776 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: and asking them what time, what's the weather like outside? 777 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: When it was cold out, you know, is this going 778 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: to be warm enough? I mean, doing the things that 779 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: kept him like kept him you know, not so serious. 780 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: This game can get so serious, and it is it's 781 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: it's it's people's livelihoods. But you got to have some 782 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: bit of levity there and that's what I was always 783 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: able to bring and hopefully, you know, keep the guys 784 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: a little bit loose well from start to finish. You 785 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: really had your career on your terms. Looking back on it, 786 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 1: that's got to be something you're really proud of right, Yeah, 787 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't happen a lot. A lot of 788 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 1: players lead the league with the sour taste because they're said, 789 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: you're you know, you're too slow, You're not good enough anymore, 790 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: and they get replaced by a younger, faster version that's cheaper. 791 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 1: And I was able to walk away from the game 792 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: literally just I save runaway because I still had my 793 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: ankles and knees and body intact. But that was one 794 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: reason why I did leave, because I was feeling the 795 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: effects of you know, the game, taking anti inflammatories, the 796 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 1: stiffness in my joints, the headaches, the grinding my teeth 797 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: from nerves and anxiety, and even socially just the expectations 798 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: put on you as a quarterback in the face of 799 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: a franchise. It was given pretty heavy. So when I left, 800 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: it was on my own terms, for my own sanity really, 801 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: to be able to go on with my life, to 802 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: live a better life through the things I was always 803 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: wanting to do, but sometimes I couldn't because of priorities 804 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: with my profession. And you know, like I say, I 805 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: never asked for millions of dollars. They are the ones 806 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: that were going to pay me that I was able 807 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: to go and play for whatever they were given me, 808 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: but my agent was able to fight for a whole 809 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: lot more. And you know, hey, thankfully I played through 810 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: a couple of contracts and have set me up to 811 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: live a pretty good life, to live a very good life, 812 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: and to help others around me. And I have no regrets. 813 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad I left the game when I did and 814 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: feel like I gave it my all and that's all 815 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: I ever was trying to do well. And now here 816 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: you are, and you've got a whole new business venture 817 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: that helps a lot of the younger generation of football players. 818 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: Tell me about your new company a little bit. Yeah, 819 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: thank you for asking. You know, Ready List Sports. It's 820 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: it's really the brainchild of Chad three Hoff, a kid 821 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: out of Colorado School of Minds that I met in 822 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: Denver and O five in camp, and he came back 823 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: to me with this concept to utilize multiple learning styles 824 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: to help players really digest nomenclature, terms and depths and 825 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: names of all the plays that you know you was 826 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: forced to learn there in the NFL. We have a 827 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: playbook that has some seven hundred plays in it, yet 828 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: in the game you only get to run. You know, 829 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: maybe seventy to eighty plays, but you got to know 830 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: all of them, and they change from team to team 831 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: and what you call it. One team has changed to 832 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: a different name and another team. So we created this 833 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: tool that was first made for the players so they 834 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: could learn in an efficient manner their offensive, defensive play book, 835 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: whatever it was, and it's morphed into really a phenomenal 836 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: drawing tool that hands down is the best on the market. 837 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: And we've signed recently the Cowboys in San Francisco, forty 838 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: nine ers, so we're excited to see how it works 839 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: with them and get the feedback from them. But we 840 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: are poison ready as we start another raise to finish 841 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: up the developing the things we know these coaches want 842 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: now not just what we think they want, but we 843 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: actually have gotten feedback from some of the best in 844 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: the game to create really a one stop shop for everything. 845 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: To be able to present your offense or defense or 846 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: special teams and have your kids then be able to 847 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: study a playbook and then on the back end of 848 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: that have autogenerated tests that they can take and it 849 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, all the data points, all the buttons that 850 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: are pushed are captured so that coaches can see, you know, hey, 851 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,280 Speaker 1: these guys are getting this or a wait, a sect, 852 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: these guys are struggling here. Let's focus our practice and 853 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: our time together on these concepts. So you just make 854 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: things more efficient in today's world where you know, the 855 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: twenty four hour clock seems to be getting order as 856 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: we as we get more and more on our plates. 857 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,400 Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to just ease the stress of 858 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: learning a playbook and also of implementing one and giving 859 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: it out to the teams and your players, and we're 860 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: coming along. We got a really phenomenal tool, and it's 861 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: been a lot of fun to get back in touch 862 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: with old coaches like you, Coach Mack, and really a 863 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: lot of my old coaches and teammates that are now coaching, 864 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: and just to rekindle some of those glory days at 865 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: the combine when we were still having combines up there 866 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: in person. You brought me in for the first presentation 867 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: of this, and I was so impressed. And I know 868 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: that was just the first generation of it, and it 869 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: has morphed into something that I think is going to 870 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: be fabulous. And it's not only I mean, you mentioned 871 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you mentioned the forty nine ers, but for 872 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: everybody that's listening to us. I mean it's not only 873 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: for this, It could be in the high schools too. 874 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean it could be used in universities. I mean, 875 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: let me just say this, Snake, anything you've ever been 876 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: involved with has been really good, and this is going 877 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: to be this is going to be another one of them. 878 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: I'm very very proud of you, very proud of you. 879 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, coach. You know, actually you left out flag 880 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: football because we're going all the way down to like 881 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: five on five flag with eight year olds and then no, 882 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 1: I love that parents that are trying to coach, parents 883 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: who've never coached. We got preloaded playbook. You can go 884 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: on and download a playbook that's already there for you 885 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: that you give to your kids. And you know, we're 886 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: not trying to turn eight year olds into Peyton Mannings. 887 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: We just want them to go out and have fun 888 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: and know where they're going because the game is fun 889 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: when you know what you're doing, and it can get 890 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: you can get a little bit out of whack when 891 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: you don't know what you're doing and coaches are yelling 892 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,959 Speaker 1: at just so we're just trying to make that experience 893 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 1: better all around, from top to bottom. What a very 894 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 1: cool tool, what a very very cool concept, Snake. It 895 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: really is a thank you, oh man, Jake, thank you 896 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: so much for spending some time with us. This has 897 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 1: been so much fun. And I know you've got a 898 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: million things going on, so we're gonna let you get 899 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: back to your life. But thank you, thank you, thank 900 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: you for taking some time to talk to us. We 901 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing Ready Liss sports all over the 902 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: place and just catching up. It's always nice to talk 903 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: to you. Awesome. Hey, It's always a pleasure to share 904 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: my story and anytime Coach Mac I get it here 905 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: your voice stock to you. It's always a joy. So 906 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: you I'll be floating a little lighter today and appreciate 907 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to come on the show. Thank you, Snake, 908 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Love your brother, see you man, Love you too, Man, Mac. 909 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 1: That was awesome. I'm so glad that we had an 910 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring that to the people because what a 911 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: cool dude. And you know what you said, that's two 912 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: perfect words to describe Jake. I mean, he is a 913 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: cool dude, always was and still is now. Very unique guy, 914 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: very unique and but you know, a really really good 915 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: football player and an excellent, excellent leader as a quarterback. 916 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,760 Speaker 1: That's one thing that you have to have in your quarterback, 917 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: regardless of what his personality is. The guys have to 918 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: believe in him and have to want to follow him. 919 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: Jake the Snake has been that his whole career. I 920 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: was really fortunate to be able to coach Jake be 921 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: with Jake still a very close friend of mine, and 922 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that we were able to do that 923 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: with him well. And he doesn't do interviews very often, 924 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: so it was a very big deal that he took me. 925 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: He does interviews for two things. He'll do interviews for 926 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: me and you, as he did, and then anytime for 927 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: the Pat Tilman Foundation. Those are the two times that 928 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: he does it. Other than that he kind of is 929 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: in his place in Idaho and chilling yep yep. So 930 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: thank you to Jake for taking the time to talk 931 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: to us. Absolute treat. I hope you guys enjoyed that. Now, 932 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: a little update on the old bobblehead front. Oh, I'm 933 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: so excited about playoff bobble heads to everybody who responded 934 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram used the code word liked subscribe. Did all 935 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: of the things we asked you to do. Thank you 936 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,240 Speaker 1: so much. No, absolutely, we love it. We love hearing 937 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: from you, we love interacting with you. We love it 938 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: so much. If you're number Mac, I didn't specify how 939 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: many we were going to give away. I'm sad we 940 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: don't have a million of them. Well, we don't have 941 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: a million of them, but we did have some, okay, 942 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: and I figured for the playoffs we should go with 943 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,479 Speaker 1: a number that is, like, you know, more than two, 944 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: maybe even more than five, more than ten, but fifteen 945 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: felt like too many, so we're not doing fifteen, But 946 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: like thirteen felt like a good number. Well that is, 947 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: that's perfect. I think you are completely right about that, 948 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,800 Speaker 1: and that makes me very excited. So watch your inboxes, guys. 949 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: We will be sliding into your DMS to let you 950 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 1: know that you are the winner of one of the 951 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: thirteen Coach Mac or Titans Amy Bobbleheads. It's a little 952 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 1: little grab bag perfect, But thank you to everybody who 953 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: interacted with us. It's so good to see you guys 954 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: and hear from you, and we hope to do more 955 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: of it soon. I'm just sad we don't have a 956 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: million well, I mean we can work on it. We can. Yeah, 957 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean I know where they come from. So it 958 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: might have to put the bubblehead factory into overdrive to 959 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: make up a million, but we'll get it. How many 960 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: other bubbleheads could they really be making? Like none? Exactly, Mac. 961 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: Do you have anything to add before we take a 962 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: little bye week break. Well, I just I mean, this 963 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: is such an exciting time. This is what you work for, 964 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:22,880 Speaker 1: and this is why you're in the business, and this 965 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: is why you're a fan. I'd like to give I'd 966 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: like to really acknowledge the fans that were down there 967 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: at in Houston. We had so much fun down there 968 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: just watching them in the stadium. And then, uh, you 969 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 1: and I and Mike Keith and Ashley Farrell flew back 970 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: on a Titans flight. It seemed like we we took 971 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: Hobby Airport over, we took Southwest Airlines over, and then, 972 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it was such a great thing, the interaction 973 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: with those people down there in the in Hobby waiting 974 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: for our flight and then flying back on it. I 975 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: give you major kudos because you and I sat together 976 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: and I told you when we got on it was 977 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: such a great feeling that I wanted to go ask 978 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 1: the flight attendant if I could have the microphone and 979 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: get up there and say on a scale of one 980 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 1: to ten, And you said, Coach Mike, please, don't you 981 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,959 Speaker 1: cannot You say it'll cause a riot. It was, it'll 982 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: cause a riot on the airlines, and we don't want 983 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 1: to get thrown off. But that was a great, great 984 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: evening flying back with all of those Titans season ticket holders, 985 00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: all the Titans fans that were there, and I'm just 986 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: so happy that we're getting ready for some really more 987 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: exciting times at Nissan Stadium, completely sold out, sold out 988 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: for two games because Titans fans are expecting some big 989 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: things well, and that's the thing. There will be no 990 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: more celebrations on flights for a couple of weeks because 991 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna be right here at home. Come on out 992 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: to Nissan Stadium. These games are going to be absolutely bananas. 993 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. There's nothing like playoff football, and especially 994 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: here in Nashville where we know how to do it right. 995 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 1: This is going to be an awesome, awesome time. But everybody, 996 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: enjoy your bye weekend right now, watch some football. Take 997 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 1: a load off. Nothing stressful for the Tennessee Titans. We 998 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,240 Speaker 1: will be back at it next week and we cannot 999 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: wait to see you there as we get going for 1000 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: coach mac I am Titans Amy. Thank you so much 1001 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: for listening to The Titans Amy The Coach Back podcast