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Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John, This is Alien Salm on the

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Speaker 2: My wife used me for a green card and left

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Speaker 2: me for another man as a red flag. Let's start

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Speaker 2: at the beginning, around two thousand and seven. We were

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Speaker 2: both attending the same university in the US. She was

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Speaker 2: an international student from Thailand and I was an American.

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Speaker 2: I was the shy but smart guy from class that

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Speaker 2: she knew, and she was the cute international student. We

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Speaker 2: were in a few classes over the years, but in

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Speaker 2: the months before I graduated and moved to a different state,

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Speaker 2: we started talking more. We had a few in person

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Speaker 2: lunch dates before I left. By the way, this comes

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Speaker 2: from Dazzling Patients fifty eighty eight. I'm Sophia, and I'm Riley,

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Speaker 2: and I'm Keon, and we're here to give good advice. Goofully,

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Speaker 2: But we don't have all the answers. We only know

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Speaker 2: what we do, So let us know you would do

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Speaker 2: in the commons. After I moved, we continued to talk.

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Speaker 2: She was set to graduate one year behind me. I

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Speaker 2: flew back for her graduation, and then a few weeks

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Speaker 2: later she had a crisis. We decided it was best

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Speaker 2: if I came to pick her up, so I drove

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Speaker 2: a few states over what was the crisis, loaded most

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Speaker 2: of her belongings into my vehicle, and she moved into

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Speaker 2: my place just like that. We lived in a shared

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Speaker 2: house near downtown Minneapolis with around seven other people in

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Speaker 2: their early twenties, which made it easy for her to

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Speaker 2: attending the University of m N. We were very into

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Speaker 2: each other at this time, having spicy sleep multiple times

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Speaker 2: a day and always wanting to be around each other.

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Speaker 2: I worked full time and sometimes traveled for work. When

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Speaker 2: I went somewhere interesting, I'd usually stay over the weekend

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Speaker 2: and she would fly out to join me. We genuinely

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Speaker 2: had a good time, and I fell in love with her.

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Speaker 2: She also said she loved me, and I believed her.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, dang it.

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Speaker 2: Late two thousand and eight, her student visa was going

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Speaker 2: to expire soon. Either she had to go go back

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Speaker 2: a K one fiance visa. We continued living in the

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Speaker 2: we moved to a different state. Around this time, we

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Speaker 2: to meet her parents and family. They were a middle

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Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, we had two separate wedding ceremonies,

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Speaker 2: one in the US and one in Thailand. It was

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Speaker 2: a traditional Thai wedding with all the intricacies, which was

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Speaker 2: very fun to be involved in. After a year of

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Speaker 2: what felt like NonStop wedding planning, we finally settled down

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Speaker 2: in our new home. During this time, we adopted a

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Speaker 2: couple of cats that we treated like children. The issue

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Speaker 2: on birth control and we didn't have plans for any

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Speaker 2: time soon. We were just enjoying our newly married lives.

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Speaker 2: I continued my job that involved some travel, and while

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Speaker 2: me on my work trips. Fast forward to around twenty

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Speaker 2: her friends from work were planning a week in float

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Speaker 2: her coworkers. I said that sounded fun, have a good time.

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Speaker 2: I trusted her one hundred percent at this time. Shortly

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Speaker 2: screen with many text messages from an LJ. Her phone

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Speaker 2: was locked, but I could still see the name. She

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Speaker 2: was getting texts all the time from this person. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: she started spending the whole week and away from Friday

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Speaker 2: night until Sunday night. At this point I did something questionable.

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Speaker 2: We had a shared laptop and I restored her iPhone

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Speaker 2: I read her text messages and found conversations with LJ.

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Speaker 2: They were cheating, but it wasn't clear if they were

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Speaker 2: having spicy sleep. I was devastated, but knew that if

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Speaker 2: I confronted her while she was outside, she would just

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Speaker 2: she'll scream and shout, deny and blame me instead. I

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Speaker 2: One video was of her kissing LJ on the cheek

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is in the car that I helped her by.

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Speaker 3: He was driving our car.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I loved her, but I was absolutely devastated.

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Speaker 2: Until the float trip, I thought I had a happy marriage.

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Speaker 2: We seemed to love each other. We had good, spicy

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Speaker 3: My heart was broken.

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Speaker 2: Confronted with the evidence in front of her eyes, I

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Speaker 2: agreed to stay away from him. She agreed to quit

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Speaker 2: took her around three months to finally move, apparently because

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Speaker 2: I tried to put all that past infidelity with LJ

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Speaker 2: we were shopping for bicycles, thinking it would be a

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Speaker 4: Never never, that's always never. Know how many stories I've

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Speaker 4: read where a couple of those bicycles shopping and it

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Speaker 2: She left her phone in my car, unlocked. I looked

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Speaker 2: at it and saw she had messages from Elija. Again,

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Speaker 2: my heart stopped. I waited until she got back into

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Speaker 2: thought we were going to start fresh. After we moved

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Speaker 2: Years were rough. She continued to take her birth control pills.

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Speaker 3: People do that.

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Speaker 3: But she's doing here. Yet Do I buy.

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Speaker 2: That she said she needed to take them to help

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Speaker 2: but I had started drinking more to help tune it

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Speaker 2: was home. Not a healthy combination for a marriage. Fast

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Speaker 2: forward to twenty seventeen. I had left one of her

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Speaker 3: Dude, leave, dude, I good. Good. He called nine one one. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: During the night, she withdrew.

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Speaker 2: Thirty five thousand dollars from our joint savings account that

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Speaker 2: but she refused. I started talking to a divorce lawyer,

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Speaker 2: couldn't do anything about it, really except to Unfortunately, I

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Speaker 2: started to resent her, but I don't really want to

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Speaker 2: vacation and she helped plant, but it was a struggle.

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Speaker 3: On the vacation. There was a lot of arguing.

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Speaker 2: We had spicy sleep a few times, which was nice

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Speaker 2: to note that we could still do it, but it

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Speaker 2: was awkward. She just laid there. It's not enjoyable for

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Speaker 2: me if I see my partners clearly not into it. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it was a turn off. Shortly after we returned home

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Speaker 2: from vacation OH November twenty eighteen, I stopped drinking for good.

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Speaker 2: The new sober clarity finally laid bare what I had

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Speaker 2: been trying to avoid by drinking. My wife was having

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Speaker 2: an affair and wasn't going to end it. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: sure at that point if she was physically cheating, as

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Speaker 2: I had no hard evidence, but I still have strong suspicions.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't take it anymore. There was a total lack

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Speaker 2: of trust. I filed for divorce. She immediately hired an

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Speaker 2: attorney and asked for temporary sp also support, and God

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Speaker 2: awarded it. Because we were married more than ten years

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Speaker 2: and California considers our marriage long term, I was potentially

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Speaker 2: three years of spousal support, a five figure amount at

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Speaker 3: I wish you the best. I wish she gonna suck.

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Speaker 3: I'm Riley, I'm Sophia, I'm keon the part I'm.

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Speaker 4: Stuck out now involves a female coworker. He insists nothing

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Speaker 4: If you want to end this over something that isn't real,

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Speaker 4: I found out from a friend that this coworker was

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Speaker 3: I still have to work.

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Speaker 4: Opie says this confused me because if nothing happened, why

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Speaker 3: That's the worst thing. That's the worst study.

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Speaker 4: Your co worker just texting you.

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Speaker 3: Your coworker's wife texts you and says, hey, leave my

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Speaker 4: I tried explaining to him that it feels like he

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Speaker 4: He calls me crazy, obsessed, delusional, and says I just

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Speaker 4: whole thing feels off. He changes details, gets overly defensive

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Speaker 4: her point to something more comment, Always trust your gut.

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Speaker 4: Cheaters are expert liars, and the lies are usually lies

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Speaker 4: of omission, and they squirm when you ask direct questions.

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Speaker 4: When you ask direct questions, then that's when you become crazy, paranoid, controlling,

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Speaker 4: They just get better at hiding with apps like what'sapp, snapchat,

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Speaker 4: hide detection with digital communications. So if you have the

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of private investigator. That's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need a private investigator.

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Speaker 2: I need a private investigator probably break up to know

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Speaker 4: Is it always that one coworker? He says, I basically

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Speaker 3: He told his.

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Speaker 4: Boss about it, not HR.

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Speaker 3: His boss talks.

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Speaker 4: To her and told her it was inappropriate. All texts, calls,

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Speaker 3: Are they rumors? If they're true?

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Speaker 4: She also blocked me on social media the same day.

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Speaker 4: I asked my friend. She denied it and confronted the girl.

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Speaker 4: The girl said that she didn't want to be a

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Speaker 4: this was affecting my husband. I asked my husband if

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Speaker 4: serious compared to just gossip. He said he wanted to

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Speaker 4: just ignore it because she's an idiot. He didn't want

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Speaker 4: focus on us. You'd think as her manager, he'd want

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Speaker 3: But also it seems like she's lying. I feel like

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Speaker 3: she's starting this rumor.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, like I I'd like, I'm at the

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Speaker 4: like who, like, is she what?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it seems like what she did, so let's

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Speaker 3: go to the source, potential affair partner. I'm gonna call

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Speaker 3: her Stacy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, potentially like the the girl that Opie's husband might

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Speaker 2: be cheating on Stacy. It seems like she Stacy goes

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Speaker 2: p he's bestie. Let's call her Anna has been spreading

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Speaker 2: rumors about Stacy and Opie's husband sleeping together. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: then Anna denies this, So then I'm like, is Stacy

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Speaker 2: just spreading these rumors her souse to cause trouble in

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Speaker 2: their parent or what I was gonna say, if not

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Speaker 4: Trouble, to kind of like get ahead of it, Like

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Speaker 4: if you're like, hey, somebody's spreading rumors about us sleeping together,

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Speaker 4: which would never have happen. They're spreading rumors.

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Speaker 3: This is a problem.

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Speaker 2: And if you hear about us sleeping together, it's a rumor.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. The more I'll be asked, the more he escalated

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Speaker 4: and got mad. He's told me about three or four

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Speaker 4: different versions of what he told his boss, different stories

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Speaker 4: about what his mail coworker told him, different stories about

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Speaker 4: what this girl said. Then he tells me he's not

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Speaker 4: changing his stories. He told me I made a mess

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Speaker 4: of everything for asking the friend about the rumor. He

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Speaker 4: still tells me I'm delusional, that I'm unstable. The more

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Speaker 4: I point out inconsistencies and what he tells me, the

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Speaker 4: more he calls me names and tells I'm insane. He

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Speaker 4: told me I'm trying to sabotage his career. Maybe I'm delusial, no,

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Speaker 4: or maybe it's the constant gaslighting for weeks on end.

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Speaker 4: I just don't understand why this girl would block me

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Speaker 4: then start telling people there were rumors they were sleeping together.

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Speaker 4: I also can't understand why if he hates her as

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Speaker 4: type of rumor could be extremely damaging.

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Speaker 3: To his career.

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Speaker 4: Does this sound normal to you?

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Speaker 3: Guys?

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Speaker 4: Am I crazy? Or am I just crazy for still

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Speaker 4: being with him? You should dump him. I feel like

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Speaker 4: he is not trying at all to defend our marriage.

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Speaker 4: This girl spreads a rumor they're sleeping together, and somehow

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Speaker 4: all of his anger is targeted to me. I'm the

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Speaker 4: one trying to sabotage his job, and I'm the one

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Speaker 4: who's made a mess of everything. Maybe I'm crazy for

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Speaker 4: assuming most couples would want to squash a rumor like

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Speaker 4: that immediately. Somebody commented, there's a psychology informing romantic bonds

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Speaker 4: with people you see being driven to succeed and pursue

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Speaker 4: their passions. We find people who exhibit those qualities attractive. Plus,

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Speaker 4: the workplace environment encourages us to be on good behavior.

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Speaker 4: It's an environment that fosters connection. Then you come home

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Speaker 4: us fulfilling. It's important for couples to create a home

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Speaker 4: environment after work that feels like a comfortable escape from

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Speaker 4: work stresses and a place where they can bond. Usually

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Speaker 4: these commentors are like, here's.

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Speaker 3: My opinion and divorce. This guy was just like, shout

441
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,920
Speaker 3: out how you create a work life balance. Shout out

442
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,840
Speaker 3: to the person who was.

443
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 4: Just like, you know, I think a lot of stuff.

444
00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 3: I think their trouble is with work life balance.

445
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 4: We need to I mean the just right, Like you know,

446
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 4: I didn't hear a lie, but yeah, that's that's all

447
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,400
Speaker 4: there is on that story.

448
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 2: My husband promised he would stop cheating, but his phone

449
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: logs say otherwise.

450
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,080
Speaker 4: Ring, ring, it's infidelity.

451
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm just shattered.

452
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm twenty seven, he's twenty nine. We've been together for

453
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: four years and married for just over a year. We

454
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 2: went through heck and back to finally get married because

455
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: of family issues, and he worked his butt off to

456
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 2: make it happen. I thought it would be smooth sailing

457
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 2: after that. By the way, this comes from numerous will

458
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,480
Speaker 2: forty seven oh eight. And if you want to smit

459
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 2: your own stories, good with the r slash. Okay storytime

460
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,960
Speaker 2: severed it. I'm Sophia, and I'm Riley.

461
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 3: And I'm key On, and we're here to give good advice. Goofy,

462
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 3: but we don't have all the answers. We only know

463
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 3: what we do. So let us know what you would

464
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 3: do in the comment.

465
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: A couple of months into the marriage, I noticed he

466
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 2: was too friendly with random women on social media, girls

467
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: he knew tangentially through work or his network, random dms,

468
00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 2: replying to their stories, texting about nothing important, nothing outright inappropriate,

469
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 2: like you're pretty, or let's get to know each other,

470
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: just chat, and when he didn't need to be liking photos.

471
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: I did find one conversation I thought was very inappropriate.

472
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 2: He would vent to her seek emotional support about work,

473
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: text her when he finished work. I noticed he randomly

474
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: stopped texting her without me having to tell him. The

475
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: conversation lasted about a week. We fought majorly over this,

476
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: and he promised it wouldn't happen again, that he was

477
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 2: being stupid. We supposedly got past it. I'd find little

478
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 2: things here and there, but nothing egregious, so I'd let

479
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: them go. There's one woman twenty five he works with

480
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: on a few projects who lives in a different country.

481
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 2: She was his mentee, and he was transparent about communicating

482
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: with her over text and phone, doing it in front

483
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 2: of me. I didn't have any issues because it seemed professional.

484
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: One day on.

485
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: Vacation, he opened his phone next to me and I

486
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: noticed he had specifically locked the chat with only her.

487
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: I lost my mind and left the vacation without him.

488
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: Apologized and said there was nothing that. He didn't want

489
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: me to freak out if I saw her name pop up,

490
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: because I'm very jealous when it comes to women.

491
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Or maybe you're cheating with all those women, Yeah,

492
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm not.

493
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 2: He's just not trustworthy and doesn't know how to stick

494
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 2: to boundaries as a married man. He showed me some

495
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: of the messages and they were innocent enough.

496
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Speaker 3: I guess.

497
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: It took me weeks to forgive this, and I got

498
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: my family involved. He promised them nothing like that would

499
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 2: happen again, that he'd be fully transparent with his phone,

500
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: that he'd stop having unnecessary conversations with women. This was

501
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 2: five months ago. The last thing he told me about

502
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: this woman was that he would tell her to only

503
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: email him from now on, no more messages or calls

504
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 2: to maintain professionalism. I believed him. Fast forward five months

505
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 2: to last week. I decided to check his phone for

506
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 2: the first time since that incident. The ground fell out

507
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: from under me. He's been talking to this woman every

508
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: single day for the past five months about everything under

509
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: the sun, emotional support, venting to each other, joking and

510
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: teasing each other consistently. He tells her he's seen how

511
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 2: vulnerable she is, asks her opinion on where he should

512
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: move next for his training, talks about how she needs

513
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: to be wary of spicy guys at work since they're

514
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 2: in the same field. He asked if she wanted him

515
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: to find her a jaw where he works because he

516
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: has connections. She would compliment him on something like his

517
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: social skills, and he would ask multiple times why she

518
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: thinks that of him. They would talk on the phone

519
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: for an hour, and then she would text him a

520
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 2: compliment after the call, and he would eat it up,

521
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: texting for hours, extremely close phone calls, messages constantly. While

522
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: I had zero clue. What hurt the most was that

523
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: in five months of messages, neither of them mentioned me

524
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 2: one single time. It's like I didn't exist. She knows

525
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 2: he's married. I was operating under the impression that he

526
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: was only emailing her. Because I took his word for it,

527
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: and because he hadn't mentioned her in five months, I

528
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 2: now know he was deceiving me this entire time.

529
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, actually, only emailing would have been a you know what,

530
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: I think that would have been a good goal, actually.

531
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 3: Because I think this still could have happened, but it

532
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 3: would have been a little bit harder.

533
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're not getting those Gmail notifications.

534
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: He's starting Gmail, PNG, you know, attachments or whatever. I

535
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: lost it, kicked him out of the house, went to

536
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: see my family and told them everything. At first, he

537
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 2: was adamant that he didn't do anything wrong, that he

538
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: was being professional, and that it was about work. I

539
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: told him not to kid to me. That work used

540
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: to be what they did, when the messages were all

541
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: about the projects they had to finish. I told him

542
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 2: that he blatantly went from professional work conversation to best

543
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 2: friend territory while deliberately deceiving me, and immediately after he

544
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: promised he would avoid unnecessary conversations with women or the

545
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: conversations generally centered around their field. But don't play stupid

546
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 2: or not like just because you threw a work word

547
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: in there. It's suddenly professional. I can't eat or sleep.

548
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Who knows where it would have led if I didn't

549
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: find the messages. To be clear, none of the messages

550
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 2: were romantic, but she was clearly trying to flirt and

551
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: he was clearly eating it up. I would not call

552
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: any of what I saw an appropriate friendship, especially behind

553
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: my back while I believed it was email only.

554
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm at a loss.

555
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,719
Speaker 2: His mom and sister are fully on my side and

556
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: extremely disappointed.

557
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: They told him he.

558
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: Doesn't deserve me. My family is the same. This isn't

559
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: the first or second time, and it wasn't one or

560
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: two messages. Five months of deceit.

561
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: And for what.

562
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, of course your family doesn't like him because

563
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: you've been telling them everything that he's done wrong, so

564
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: they're probably they've probably been waiting for you to break

565
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 2: out with this guy. He's finally out of I didn't

566
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: do anything wrong mode and is now trying to fix things,

567
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: but it feels lackluster. I don't think he's capable of change.

568
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 2: He's a liar and deceives with no issue. He supposedly

569
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: blocked her, but I don't even believe that he's telling

570
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: me he knows he messed up, and that he knows

571
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: he doesn't deserve more chances, but that he can't imagine

572
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: losing me. He hasn't done anything concrete yet, though, and

573
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to give him the playbook. It doesn't

574
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: feel like he's exactly terrified to lose me. Honestly, if

575
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: he was, he wouldn't have done this behind my back

576
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: and risked losing me when he knew it was a

577
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: clear deal breaker. He's been saying he can change, that

578
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: he wants to be the man I deserve, that he's embarrassed,

579
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. I filed for divorce yesterday and told

580
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: him so, and there we go.

581
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: It's over.

582
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: He seems to be in shock and just keeps asking

583
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: to talk about it. I won't believe a word he says,

584
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: because we've been through this entire spiel before and here

585
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: we are again. At the same time. I adore this man,

586
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 2: and I know he adores me. Besides this glaring problem.

587
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: He treats me like a princess and love pools in

588
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: his eyes when he looks at me. I just can't

589
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: get past this, and I can't stop worrying about what

590
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: it might.

591
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: Escalate to later.

592
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 2: He did stop the Instagram nonsense, so he's using that

593
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: to show he's changed some things, come on to change

594
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: that and then do this. It's either he just truly

595
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: doesn't give an up about me anymore, which is harder

596
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: for me to believe because of all he went through

597
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: to marry me and because of how well he treats

598
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: me generally, or he's majorly insecure and needs external validation

599
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: from women at any expense, or he's into her. Either way,

600
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 2: I don't see myself living like this. He takes me

601
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: for a fool, is what it seems like. I'm a

602
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: real damn good wife, and he admits that without hesitation,

603
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 2: So I just can't believe I'm dealing with this any

604
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: final thoughts my up, Yeah, divorce, I just it's not

605
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: it's not working.

606
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: You're married, okay, slay, you're on your way.

607
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: It seems like even if you know this is all

608
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: above board or whatever, he's not clearly not listening to

609
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: your you know, boundaries and doesn't really seem to care

610
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: that much about breaking them. And if you're not willing

611
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: to go to therapy, or you have gone to therapy

612
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: and hasn't worked, not much you can do. I just

613
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: need non biased opinions. I don't know if I should

614
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: give it another chance after being separated for a while

615
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: or just end it even though it would hurt.

616
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: There is a niggling but he.

617
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: Didn't say anything romantic, so maybe it's not that bad.

618
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: But no, five months of secret friendship with a woman

619
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 2: we had issues over before is not innocent. I'm so

620
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: lost and so sad. Anything helps, Thank you all, and

621
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: there are some comments to finish the story off. Three

622
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 2: strikes and he's out once, is forgivable twice with family involved,

623
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: and he still lied about it being all about work.

624
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: He locked the chat, claiming he didn't want to hurt

625
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: you bs. The third time lasted five months. Again, he

626
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: promised he had changed. The only thing that changed was

627
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: how well he hit it.

628
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: You caught him.

629
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: He repeated the same line. I promise I'll cook contact.

630
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: Dude's only work reluted twenty four hours a day of chatting. Oh,

631
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: I can recommend a job near me. Latantly flirting and

632
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: setting up the moment to make it physical. It was

633
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: just a matter of timing. You caught him red handed,

634
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: and he's in denial. He's not the man you believed

635
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: him to be. The truth is surfacing and you need

636
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: to protect your heart, your emotions, and your children. He

637
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: promised you he changed. He swore to your family. He changed.

638
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: He even admitted to his family that he changed. Lies,

639
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: all lies.

640
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: Walk away with your self esteem. Intact, he lied to

641
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: the entire family. He cannot be trusted with the key

642
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: to your heart. He is selfish and full of poor excuses.

643
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: Dang many certainly ain't a truther, that's for sure.

644
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 3: But that is the end of that story. Boy, oh boy,

645
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: good luck. Ope to ya. That'll be tough. Yeah, he's

646
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: always tough. Yeah.

647
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: How is the divorce for you? At five to five?

648
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't remember too much of it.

649
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: That's a blessing some ways.

650
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 3: But that's the end of it. Hey, it's Sam.

651
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: We'll get back to the stories.

652
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,760
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653
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655
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Speaker 3: little bit. Even though I twenty three female, am American,

656
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Speaker 3: my parents are immigrants, and therefore I have a different

657
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Speaker 3: cultural upbringing than most. One thing that was hammered into

658
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Speaker 3: my head from a young age was to always always

659
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Speaker 3: bring a small gift when visiting anyone's house. It doesn't

660
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: matter if it's family, friends, or that one person you

661
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 3: kind of know but don't really like. Bringing something is

662
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Speaker 3: a must. By the way, this comes from you at

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Speaker 3: a culture clash, And if you want to submit your

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Speaker 3: own stories, go to Okay Stories. I'm Subreddit, I am Savannah,

665
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Speaker 3: and I'm Angie, and we are here to give you

666
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: some good advice. Goofy, but take everything with a grain

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Speaker 3: of salt because we are not professionals. We don't have

668
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Speaker 3: all the answers, but we will give you our opinion

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Speaker 3: about maybe what we would do in the situation. So

670
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Speaker 3: let us know what you would do in the comments.

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Speaker 3: Going back to Ope, my boyfrid Friend twenty eight mail

672
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 3: and I have been dating for almost four years now,

673
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 3: and since we both work from home, he suggested we

674
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: make dinner with his parents a weekly thing since we

675
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 3: haven't been able to see each other much. For obvious reasons,

676
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: I love his parents, though obviously I agreed.

677
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Every week I made sure to bring something small to

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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: show my appreciation for them cooking for us, always using

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00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: my own money, A small bottle of wine, their favorite desserts,

680
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: some flowers, et cetera. They always thanked me for it.

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Speaker 3: This had been going on for a few months, and

682
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary until yesterday

683
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: when my boyfriend and I were preparing to head over.

684
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 3: I'd got an acute face of daffodils since luckily I'd

685
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: found some in bloom and my boyfriend's mom really loves them.

686
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: But my boyfriend suddenly got really mad and asked why

687
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: I kept bringing stuff over every week, like his parents

688
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: were a charity case. But honestly, I got super confused

689
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 3: and asked him what the problem was. Explain, Yeah, I've

690
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: always done this with everyone, including his friends, since we met.

691
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: I told him that it was a cultural thing, but

692
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 3: then he got even more mad and told me to

693
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 3: stop imposing my culture on everyone, and that it's weird

694
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: since I'm white. There's a lot of layers to this.

695
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 3: Right now, I'm just like that one zero to went

696
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: hundred really quick. Yeah. At that point, I didn't feel

697
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 3: like going anywhere with him and just gave him the

698
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: flowers before going for a walk while he drove over

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00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 3: to dinner by himself. Ooh yeah, put him in the

700
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: doghouse after he came home he still had the flowers,

701
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 3: which he gave to me, and he told me he

702
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: was sorry. But his parents really were super annoyed with

703
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: me constantly bringing stuff over, like they can't take care

704
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: of themselves. Oh okay, well, now it's getting weird. Later on,

705
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: I even got a text from his dad asking me

706
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: not to come over for dinner anymore interesting Now my

707
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: boyfriend's giving me the cold shoulder and less I give

708
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 3: his parents a huge apology. But I really truly don't

709
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: feel like I'm in the wrong for trying to be

710
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: nice to them. Am I the ahole? So we had

711
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 3: some comments. Do we want to talk about this first? Yeah,

712
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: I definitely. I don't think you're the a whole. I

713
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: don't think he should be giving you the cold shoulder

714
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 3: like this. I feel like that's something to keep in

715
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 3: mind maybe when reflecting on the relationship. Perhaps, but I

716
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: want a jump to like you should break up. But

717
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: I think like maybe we'll get him out if I

718
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: feel like you don't necessarily it seems like you don't

719
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: necessarily owe him an apology, but maybe an explanation just

720
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: so you're on the same page, you know. I agree.

721
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: I feel like there's just like a miscommunication here, Yeah,

722
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: like that you're taking it as something and you're taking

723
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 3: it as something else, right, So I think just explain, like, hey,

724
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: like that's my culture and this was honestly just supposed

725
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: to be like a nice thing to like show my appreciation,

726
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 3: you know, for you doing this for us every week,

727
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 3: you know, totally. Yeah, Like, I'm sorry if it came

728
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: off that way, but it's truly not what I intended exactly. Yeah,

729
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: and like boom, I feel like problem would be solved. Yeah,

730
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 3: but let's see these comments. His dad texted you. The

731
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: father of a nearly thirty year old man texted you

732
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: to tell you you are no longer welcome at their

733
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: home because of basically hosts gifts. No, not the a

734
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: hole this dude and his family suck, Oh, p answers. Well,

735
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: he didn't say anything about the gifts, just to not

736
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 3: come over for dinner. My boyfriend told me they rejected

737
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 3: the flowers and told him to tell me that, which

738
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: made me sad. I wouldn't really trust your boyfriend on

739
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 3: what he is saying. Maybe talk to his parents directly,

740
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: because your boyfriend may have told them something that would

741
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: make them act like this around you. That's kind of true. Oh,

742
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 3: he says, I'm overwhelmed right now. Why would he lie?

743
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: Ever done anything like this before, and even helped me

744
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: pick out gifts a few times? Oh what, That's an

745
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: important thing to note. He would lie because in his mind,

746
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 3: he concocted a whole untrue situation and wants someone to

747
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: validate it. I'm not sure where he pulled this narrative

748
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 3: out of, but it sounds like he has led it. Fester.

749
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 3: It just is too coincidental that he blew up on

750
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 3: you about the gift, then suddenly his parents are upset

751
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: when no one has said anything before. It really does

752
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: point to him spreading the false narrative to make his

753
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: point sound real. I mean that is a good point.

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00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: M M. I don't know. Ohp He says, he's refusing

755
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: to answer any of my questions now and threw the

756
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 3: flowers out rude. Now I'm getting mad. I have no

757
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: idea where this sudden change of behavior came from, but

758
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to make him sit down with me and

759
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: have a talk about why all of this is happening

760
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: all of a sudden. Imagine this, when his friends ask

761
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: him why they broke up, he has to say that

762
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 3: she gave his parents gifts. The horror, what a fill

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00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: in the blank here, I mean true. Yeah, But the

764
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: thing is he would never say, oh, well, she just

765
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: was disrespectful. Yeah, yeah, respectful given her thing is that

766
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: they don't want they told her not to and seeing

767
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: them as charity. Right yeah, Oh, he says. I'm not

768
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 3: breaking up with him. He's the man I want to marry.

769
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: He may be mad right now, but all I want

770
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 3: is for things to be normal again. I just started

771
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 3: bugging him about going over to his parents so I

772
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: can apologize, but he wants me to do it by text,

773
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: which I don't understand. That's sus I think he wants

774
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: you to apologize by text so you don't find out

775
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: that he told his parents something completely untrue. Yes, if

776
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: you get together in person, they'll have the opportunity to

777
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: check stories with each other. Also, I know you don't

778
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: want to hear this, but please don't marry this man.

779
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: I mean true though, I'm getting him off his game

780
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: right now, and we'll sit with not getting him off

781
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: his game, what is he playing? I'm getting him off

782
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 3: his game right now, and we'll sit him down for

783
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: a talk. Simply put he's acting like a brat right now,

784
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: and I want to know why he doesn't want me

785
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: talking to his parents. Ooh, small update in the comments. Whoa,

786
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,439
Speaker 3: here we go, and I'm feeling extremely overwhelmed right now

787
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: and just making a quick comment because all of you

788
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: are being so nice. Sat my boyfriend down after dragging

789
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 3: him off his game annoying and grilled him about what

790
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: was happening, but he said I was being crazy, not

791
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: the gas lighting. When god, when I started all this,

792
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: and to just let us write a text to his

793
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: parents apologizing. I said no and that we would go

794
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: over to apologize, but he started freaking out, which was

795
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: the final straw. Yay yay, final strong yeay yay. He's

796
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 3: doing everything to get me to stay home, but I'm

797
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: going over and sorting this out since I tried calling anyway,

798
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: but the numbers out of order. Whoa, whoa wait, dude,

799
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: I was thinking that too. I don't think he grabbed

800
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: the parent's phone. I think he just got a different

801
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 3: number and texted her from that like this is I'm assuming.

802
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know, but I'm guessing that the

803
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: dad hasn't texted her before anyway, and that's why it

804
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: was so weird that he texted her. I didn't even

805
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: think that he could have got like a burner phone.

806
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: This is going too deep. Who is this man? Yeah?

807
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 3: Why would you go to all of these lengths, like

808
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: just to be like I'm a good person, right, Like

809
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: that's great? Oh my gosh, So some more responses before

810
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: I leave. I'm so sorry. I can't answer everyone. My

811
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: parents are from the Caribbean and he's very American, but

812
00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: he and his family have never been discriminatory or anything before.

813
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: They're actually much more well off than me, and my

814
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 3: gifts are never expensive since I pay for them on

815
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: my own, which is why I'm now very suspicious of

816
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 3: them behaving this way. The reason only the dad texted

817
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 3: me is because his parents aren't super tech savvy and

818
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: share a simple phone he picked out for them. I

819
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: know there's a bit of an age gap, but I

820
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: pursued the relationship myself because he asked me out casually

821
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: at work as a frequent customer, and I accepted. Here's

822
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: some more comments. Oh, buddy, he is hiding a doozy

823
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: of a lie and you are very close to unraveling it.

824
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: Trust your instincts and talk to his parents directly. Do

825
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: not let him convince you that you're crazy and need

826
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: to do things his way. True yep. Another comment, Yeah,

827
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: sounded to me like he used a number spoofing app

828
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: to text her, saying he was his dad. We'll see

829
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: after an update, hopefully, Oh d two, Update two we

830
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Speaker 3: have on. Oh my god, I'm gonna throw up. Update

831
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Speaker 3: two eight days later. Whoa, it's been like a week? Yeah,

832
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: oh oh. After my last update, I told my boyfriend

833
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 3: I was sick and tired of him dancing around the

834
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: issue with his parents, and I was going to go

835
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: over to their house whether he liked it or not. Yes,

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00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: o pe yep. At this point, I think he realized

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00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 3: that whatever he was doing had backfired, so he sat

838
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 3: down all angry and told me he'd explain. Oh. I

839
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: sat and he told me that he'd done something very

840
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: spur of the moment that he texted me from his

841
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: dad's phone, then blocked the number, but begged me to listen.

842
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh how he did it, dude? Yeah, I'd be like why,

843
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 3: y yeah, that's why crazy that he just needed to

844
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 3: get his parents for a while and to not leave.

845
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Apparently his parents had started hinting at him about marriage.

846
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: Since my boyfriend and I talked a lot about it.

847
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: I fully expected to marry him, as I said in

848
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 3: another comment, and was honestly expecting a proposal in late

849
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: spring since that's when we met. Four years dating didn't

850
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: bother me, but I was getting excited to settle down. However,

851
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 3: my boyfriend apparently realized that he absolutely didn't want to

852
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: commit to anything and wanted to experiment and have fun

853
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: since I wasn't being fun anymore. Oh oh uh, that's

854
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: I can't even say it. I can't even say able.

855
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: That's horrible, My god? What Honestly, that just made me cry.

856
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 3: Since we were each other's first for everything and usually

857
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: very good at communicating our needs. His grand plan was

858
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: to get him mad at me so I would beg

859
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: for forgetfness, and then he'd only accept an open relationship

860
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: as an answer. Bro Oh dude, uh this like this

861
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: guy's a psychopath. The words to get away from this man? Yes,

862
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 3: do not accept over relationship please. Absolutely brilliant plan. I

863
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: know he'd made up his parents getting mad, but didn't

864
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 3: expect me to blow off dinner completely and it's like

865
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 3: hitting a jackpot. His words, not mine. He went over

866
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 3: for dinner, hid the flowers and said we'd gotten into

867
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 3: a huge fight, but he was going to fix it,

868
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: but I needed space, so completely lied. Yeah, Like, oh my,

869
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: is this I can't. After he confessed all this, he

870
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: said he was very sorry but didn't want to miss

871
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 3: out on new experiences when he was still young and

872
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: would consider an open relationship, but pretend hours was strained

873
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: with his parents so they wouldn't get suspicious. And I laughed,

874
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: as you should, laughed so hard in his face.

875
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I laughed his butt right out the door

876
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 5: nice and told him absolutely not and to leave me

877
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 5: alone while I packed because I wanted to have some

878
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: new experiences too.

879
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: Yes, Sopy, there were right back in his face, says

880
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: he never stopped begging me to stay, so I left

881
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: to sleep at a friend's. After calming down for a

882
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 3: few days, I cemented the breakup and finally actually went

883
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: over to his parents. Good, wow, that's great. Yeah, let

884
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: them know what he just Yeah, oh my god, my

885
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: ex'es boyfriend's dad never even noticed the phone missing, but

886
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: still apologized, and his mom was a mess. I did

887
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 3: and still love them and will eat dinner there without

888
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: him as often as I can. Oh my god, that's awesome.

889
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: I love it. So Petty'd be like, you know what,

890
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 3: I like your parents better, right, right, I won't lie

891
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: that I'm sad about four years down the drain. Yeah

892
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: that's horrible, right, but that's life. And if that was

893
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: my ex's best possible plan, then I dodged a bullet

894
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: by a mile. Yeah, there's also another update. But before

895
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: we get there, Oh god, are we thinking? Dude, that's crazy?

896
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 3: She caught she Yeah, she was like, okay, great, I'm

897
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: going to fix this myself. Then talk to your parents directly.

898
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: And the fact that he just started freaking out is

899
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 3: like your answer already. Yeah, yeah, this is all a lie.

900
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 3: And then he started monologuing his evil plan that he had. Yeah,

901
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: he's calling it a jackpot for how it was gonna

902
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: work out?

903
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Is he?

904
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: I what appreciate how honesty is now because he's being

905
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 3: very honest. He's like, well, I have nothing to lose now, yeah,

906
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: Like you're boring and I want to go have fun

907
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: somewhere else, but like I want you to stay though,

908
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 3: because I'm like, just in case it doesn't work out,

909
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: like I do want this to work out. Just can

910
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: be rejected by everyone that I pursue. Well, come back

911
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: to you, bab, because I love you. I love you

912
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: just in case my plan doesn't work the next time. Yeah, exactly,

913
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 3: all right. Small update in the comments a few quick

914
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: answered questions. Yes, my boyfriend's parents do share a phone.

915
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: I don't find it particularly strange since they use Facebook

916
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: video chat, friends, play candy crushes sec on their iPads

917
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 3: and don't have much space for a phone. They find

918
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: iPads easier to use, and also go everywhere together. Very cute,

919
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: I know, so if someone really does need to call them,

920
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 3: the other one is right there. Previously, my boyfriend had

921
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 3: absolutely no problem whatsoever with me bringing gifts anywhere. Like

922
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: I said it in a comment, he'd help me pick

923
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 3: things out before and is usually great at communicating whenever

924
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: he feels we need to talk about something, which is

925
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: why I was so confused with him. He knows it's

926
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: how I was raised and was respectful to every other

927
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: aspect of my upbringing. His parents are not poor and

928
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: raised him with good manners and etiquette. I saw a

929
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 3: lot of other people comment on what I was bringing,

930
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 3: and no, I wasn't bringing gigantic vases with wilted flowers,

931
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: or an entire cake, or multiple bottles of the same

932
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: type of wine every week. Whenever I did bring something edible,

933
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 3: it was small and we usually consume it with dinner.

934
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 3: And as for the flowers, I'd usually just leave them

935
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 3: in the plastic wrap that they came in with water.

936
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: The vase was a rare thing that my boyfriend's mom

937
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: could have used for dozens of things since it was

938
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: a clear glass. That's great. Well, I mean they broke up,

939
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 3: so good for Euop. I think you did everything right

940
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: in that situation, and I think honestly telling his parents

941
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: was a good way to go, because I agree, I

942
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: think that's very brave of you. Yeah, I would be

943
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: too scared to do that because I'd be like, whatever,

944
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: it's done, I'm just over this. I want to be

945
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: done right right and then like obviously if you didn't,

946
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: then he would tell them some lie and that you

947
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 3: did something terrible to them. And if you really do

948
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 3: have that connection, because that is something difficult. If like,

949
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: if you make that connection with like your partner's family

950
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: or something like that, and then because they are because

951
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: you're done with them, then you have to be done

952
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: with everyone it's like, wait, but yeah, right, it's so

953
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 3: cool though, so I keep them really good gifts. Yeah,

954
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: so it's hard to be right, So it's nice that

955
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: like she still gets to at least savor that relationship

956
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: even if they don't like hang out that much anymore.

957
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: She said that they would try to, but if that

958
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 3: doesn't even happen, at least they won't have a bad

959
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 3: image of her. I feel like that's nice. Yeah, I

960
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 3: feel like that's like the real thing is, like they

961
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: know who you truly are, and they accept you and

962
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 3: are not bad about you bringing gifts over right, and

963
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 3: now hopefully they will scold their son for this. Yeah,

964
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: for real, for sure. I think my boyfriend is secretly

965
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: in love with his friend. What the drama? No, My boyfriend,

966
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: Jason thirty eight male, has a lot of female friends.

967
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 3: I let him hang out with them because I know

968
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 3: I can't always be there for him to hang out

969
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: with so I'm normally busy with work and he's currently

970
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: not working, so he has a lot of free time.

971
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: By the way, this comes from my grace a And

972
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: if you want to submit your own stories, go to

973
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974
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: and I'm Savannah, and we're here to give good advice

975
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 3: to goofully, but we don't have all the answers, so

976
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: we're just gonna guess what we would do in the situation.

977
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: But let us know what you would do in the comments.

978
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: So oh p says. Last night, my boyfriend hung out

979
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 3: with his female friend, Julia thirty seven female. They've been

980
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: friends for more than eight years, and they haven't seen

981
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: each other for two years since she moved out of town.

982
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: They were drinking and playing games in the living room

983
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 3: while I went to the bedroom to sleep. They stayed

984
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: up drinking and gaming until four thirty am. Oh that's late.

985
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 3: When Julia was about to go home, my boyfriend told

986
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: me he would walk her out of the apartment building.

987
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: I got a little worried because it took him more

988
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 3: than an hour to come back. I asked him what

989
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 3: took him so long. He said he still felt energetic,

990
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: so he walked around the apartment building for a while

991
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: while and then went to his best friend's apartment. His

992
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: best friend, Karen thirty eight female, lives just a fifteen

993
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: minute walk from our apartment. When we were looking for

994
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: an apartment, to live in two months ago. He preferred

995
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 3: this area because it's near his best friend's home. They've

996
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,879
Speaker 3: been best friends for more than ten years and lived

997
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 3: together for two years as roommates, not as lovers as

998
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: far as you know. Okay. He still has a key

999
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 3: to her apartment and he always goes there two to

1000
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: three times a week to hang out with her and

1001
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: play games. He stays there until one am, and sometimes

1002
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 3: stays the night when he gets wasted and can't walk home.

1003
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes Karen comes to our apartment to hang out with Jason,

1004
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: while I normally just stay in the bedroom to watch

1005
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 3: a show or finish my work. Jason said, Karen isn't

1006
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 3: comfortable hanging out with me yet because I'm quote the

1007
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: new girlfriend and it takes her a while to get

1008
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: comfortable with people. Right, That doesn't make any sense, But

1009
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 3: I'm just not comfortable with new people. So, yeah, you're

1010
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: the new girlfriend. Because you're a new person in my

1011
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: best friend's life. I don't want to meet you yet.

1012
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I just let it go because I'm not

1013
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: comfortable with her either, all right, so good at least

1014
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,240
Speaker 3: this mutual, right, I would rather stay in the bedroom

1015
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: instead of hanging out with her. So at four thirty am,

1016
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 3: he went to her apartment. He said he called her

1017
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: three times, but she didn't answer because obviously she was sleeping.

1018
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: What he did next was use his key to enter

1019
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 3: her apartment. He said his plan was to just chill

1020
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: in her living room until she woke up, and then

1021
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: they would play games and hang out. Karen got upset

1022
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: and kick him out of her apartment. Yeah, I told

1023
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: him it was creepy to do that, because what if

1024
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 3: Karen had a guy over and he just showed up unannounced.

1025
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: He didn't say anything, but I felt like he didn't

1026
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 3: like the sound of Karen having a guy over.

1027
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: Uh.

1028
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: Oh, That's why I'm thinking now that Jason might be

1029
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: secretly in love with her. We've only been together for

1030
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: eight months and living together for two months. I asked

1031
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: him before if he likes his best friend and he

1032
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 3: said no, he only likes her as a friend. But

1033
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: now I'm not really sure. Any advice please, and there

1034
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: are some comments, but what advice do you have, Ropie? Honestly,

1035
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been in this situation before. Yeah. Yeah,

1036
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: where like this guy that like pursued me and then

1037
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: like had like a best friend that he would always

1038
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,360
Speaker 3: hang out with, and I'm like, I asked him, I'm like,

1039
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: are you were you ever a thing? He's oh my god, no,

1040
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: no no, And I'm like, there's absolutely no way to

1041
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: this day. I really don't know, and I also don't care. Sure,

1042
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: but like it's still like because you can have like

1043
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: good friends of the opposite gender, you know, like that's

1044
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 3: for sure, that's totally fine. But yeah, when it comes

1045
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 3: to that, and then also not seeming very happy of

1046
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 3: like her being with another guy, it's like, sure, maybe

1047
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: you miss maybe he didn't seem unhappy or whatever, but

1048
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trust up and that he did. And I

1049
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 3: feel like maybe if he just likes her as friends,

1050
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 3: maybe he likes her as friends with benefits, you know.

1051
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 3: I think. I think if it's not love, it's something. Yeah,

1052
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 3: what else that's true. I feel like it's there may

1053
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: be something here, but I don't know. Yeah, just keep going.

1054
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 3: We do have some comments coming. Number one says, yeah,

1055
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 3: you guys need to break up. Seems like, based solely

1056
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 3: off of what you say in the post, you guys

1057
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: are on two totally different wavelengths. He is in party

1058
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: mode and you're on more of an adult trajectory, and

1059
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: you don't hang out with him and his female friends,

1060
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: so it's likely that he's at least crushing on the

1061
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: women he has a bond width. Let him go be

1062
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: a guy who doesn't have a job and parties and

1063
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: plays games until four point thirty in the morning with

1064
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,760
Speaker 3: all his girlfriends, and you go be an employed adult.

1065
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: Opie says. I hang out with some of his female friends,

1066
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 3: but not until morning since I need to work the

1067
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: next I only hang out with them until like eleven

1068
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: or twelve. And yes, I've been supporting him for two

1069
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 3: months since he's out of a job. Oh two months,

1070
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: which is the same amount of time that they've been

1071
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 3: living together too, And he's going over other girls apartments

1072
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: just because like he doesn't have to work. Like, oh no,

1073
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: that would that would make me really angry, so mad, dude.

1074
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, you're not You're not gonna go

1075
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 3: just get a job. You're just gonna sit and play

1076
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: around with other girls. Red flag all the way. For sure.

1077
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 3: We only live together because his roommate punted him out

1078
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: and he had nowhere to go. I actually regret that

1079
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: I let him pressure me into living with him. Yeah,

1080
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 3: you should. I love living on my own, but now

1081
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: he's always here playing video games and sometimes I cannot

1082
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: concentrate on my work. I cannot break up with him either.

1083
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: I cannot fund him out. He has nowhere to go,

1084
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 3: and I cannot leave because I'm the one who's paying

1085
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 3: the apartment. It's on my name and we have a

1086
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: contract for a year. Someone else responds, you can absolutely

1087
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: break up with him and punt him out. He can

1088
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: go live with those other friends of his since they

1089
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: are so important. Please stop subsidizing his hobosual life. He's

1090
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: just using you at this point. I mean I kind

1091
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: of have to agree totally think, yeah, he's absolutely using you. Ope. Yeah,

1092
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: and he's just like like trying to get everything that

1093
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 3: he can. But then I'll like, it's one thing to

1094
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: be grubby, but it's another thing to like be like

1095
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 3: going around with other people and supposed to being grubby. Yeah,

1096
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 3: that's not okay, right Tom? And number two, I don't

1097
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: know if he is in love with Karen and or

1098
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 3: if she is in love with your boyfriend, but the

1099
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 3: whole situation sounds off to me. Their lives are way

1100
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 3: too intricate. They seem possessive of each other, and it's unhealthy.

1101
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 3: Karen always hating her best friend's girlfriends is odd You

1102
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 3: feeling the need to isolate your when she comes home

1103
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: for hours and your boyfriend doesn't care. Your boyfriend excusing

1104
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: her behavior instead of establishing boundaries, Your boyfriend barging in

1105
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 3: her home at any hour without any respect for her privacy.

1106
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: Her not establishing any boundaries either. It's okay to let

1107
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: your friends have an extra key instead, but that doesn't

1108
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: give them the right to come in whenever they want.

1109
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it what they have them being in love,

1110
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: but really the word that comes to mind is possession.

1111
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 3: They see each other as a possession. That's my feeling. Anyway,

1112
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: your life, your choice. But I wouldn't let anyone treat

1113
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 3: me like he is, that's for sure. So not the ahole,

1114
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 3: Opie says, Oh God, thank you. So it's not only me.

1115
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 3: I am not going crazy and being insecure. I also

1116
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 3: notice their possessiveness with each other, but I thought that

1117
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: I was just being crazy and insecure, and I always

1118
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: brush the feelings off. Commutre number three says he's thirty

1119
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 3: eight and wondering into friends' houses at four thirty am

1120
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 3: to game. This man is not an adult. His feelings

1121
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: about his friends are not even your biggest issue. And

1122
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: we do have an update. But that's very true. Yeah,

1123
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: I feel like it's their relationship. Is I think pushing

1124
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: the boundaries of like overstepping into your relationship, which is

1125
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: not okay? Oh yeah for sure. Thank you for all

1126
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: your replies. I find it finding that some of you

1127
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 3: think that I made up the story. It means my

1128
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 3: situation is really pathetic to those asking my age. I'm

1129
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: thirty one. I'm new to this country and don't have

1130
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: any family members here. I have two friends, but they

1131
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: are two hours away and have their own work and problems,

1132
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: so I can't always bug them. I will talk to Jason,

1133
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 3: maybe later or tomorrow. I definitely need to talk to

1134
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 3: him and set serious boundaries to those telling me to

1135
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 3: break up with him. No, not yet. I will still

1136
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 3: give him a chance two months for him to find

1137
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 3: a job, and then if he's still going to be

1138
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 3: a free loader, I will punt him out. Two months

1139
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 3: to find a job is very generous, yeah, because he's

1140
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 3: already been two months unemployed. Yeah, another two I mean,

1141
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 3: I know how hard it is to actually find a

1142
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 3: job and everyone, but he's also not doing anything talking

1143
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 3: about my job exactly. I need to talk to him

1144
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: about his drinking habits as well. Actually he's gotten better

1145
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 3: than before after I told him i'd break up with

1146
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: him if he acts like an a hole to me

1147
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: again when wasted. I don't believe he's having a spicy

1148
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: related affair with his female friends, or maybe I'm just

1149
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: too trusting in globle and in denial. I talked to

1150
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: him before and told him that when he cheats, I

1151
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 3: will break up with him, no questions asked, no explanation needed.

1152
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: He swore that he's never cheated in his life, and

1153
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 3: I believe him. We do have a second update. Last Friday,

1154
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: when I said I was going to talk to Jason,

1155
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: I didn't actually get a chance because he went to

1156
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 3: Karen's Plates again to play video games. He stayed there

1157
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: until three am. He said he didn't notice the time

1158
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 3: because they were building a base in their game. I

1159
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 3: was so I kicked him out of the bedroom and

1160
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: made him sleep on the couch. Yesterday Saturday, I was

1161
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: still so. I told him that I needed to go

1162
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 3: outside and walk my frustration out before talking to him.

1163
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: I went out, but he followed me without speaking. After

1164
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 3: an hour of walking, I went back home because he

1165
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: was freezing outside. We talked and I told him about

1166
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 3: my feelings about him going out and staying lad at

1167
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 3: Karen's place. He apologized. He said, I thought I enjoyed

1168
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: being alone sometimes, so he stays at Karen's place to

1169
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: give me time for myself. Oh you're so You're so

1170
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: kind and generous, Terry. Give him a chance for me.

1171
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 3: About the drinking, he knows he has a problem and

1172
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: is trying to change. He promised to drink moderately and

1173
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: only at social functions or when friends are over. About

1174
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 3: the job, he said he already applied for a government job,

1175
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 3: but the process is taking longer than usual. He also

1176
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 3: said I should voice my problems sooner. About him staying

1177
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 3: late at Karen's place, He defended his actions about going

1178
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 3: there at four thirty am because he said it's his

1179
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: friend's house and his main objective was to get the

1180
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: adult soda from her fridge that he forgot last time.

1181
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 3: I know what you're thinking. The story changes. Yes, I

1182
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: told him that too, but he said when Karen punted

1183
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 3: him out, he just grabbed the adult soda and left. Yeah. No,

1184
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: I think that he's a complete liar. And and also

1185
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: the changing of the story really tells you like he

1186
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: obviously know And yeah, dude, every every time someone has

1187
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: plot holes, you need to pay attention to them. They're

1188
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: not just being stupid. They didn't just forget what they

1189
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: said before. They are changing things because their lie isn't

1190
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 3: Their lie is a lie. You know what I hate

1191
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: when they're like, oh no, no, that's what I meant. Yeah, no,

1192
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 3: I actually, yeah, this is what I said last time,

1193
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: but like, but this is what like really at place

1194
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: is like the newer version. Yeah yeah, well I just

1195
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 3: didn't go into so much detail last Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

1196
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh come on, dude, but there is a little bit

1197
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: more to the story. Update me. He said Karen forgave

1198
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: him and they're okay. I talked to him about boundaries

1199
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 3: since we're living together now, and he said he'll make

1200
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: sure to go home before midnight whenever he's at Karen's place.

1201
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: I know some of you think I'm an idiot, but

1202
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 3: not really. One thing I realize is that I will

1203
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: never marry this guy. Once he gets the job, I

1204
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: will punt him out of here. I don't want to

1205
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: be a bad guy who I don't want to be

1206
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 3: the bad guy who made her boyfriend leave when I

1207
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: know he has nowhere to go. I know he can

1208
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 3: go to Karen's place and crash there, but I still

1209
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: don't want to have the guilt in my heart and

1210
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: be the one to blame. And that's the end of

1211
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 3: that story. Well, you're very nice, o pie, but he's

1212
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: gonna blame you anyway. Yeah. I would have punted him out, yeah,

1213
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: earlier than giving him like two months and letting him

1214
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 3: like get on his feet and whatever. If he's gonna

1215
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 3: make you suffer, then you're gonna make him suffer. Yeah.

1216
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: And I finally, John here og host. We're gonna get

1217
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Speaker 3: My boyfriend's wasted friends called him and asked for an

1221
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Speaker 3: intimate picture. What that's weird? Tell? My boyfriend Nick, male

1222
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 3: twenty two and I female twenty have been together for

1223
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: three years. He's a super nice, caring guy, and I've

1224
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: never had any serious doubts about things until last night.

1225
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 3: As the title says, last night, while he was with

1226
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: me at my place, he got a FaceTime call from

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01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,280
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1231
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: I'm Angie, and we're here to give you some advice,

1232
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: but don't take it personally because we're not experts. So

1233
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: we just like to give our own opinion. Because we're nosy.

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1235
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: what you do in the comments. As op says, m

1236
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 3: Michelle has known him a lot longer than I have,

1237
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: since they grew up together, so I have always respected

1238
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: their friendship. I've also met Michelle many times and she

1239
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 3: was always super nice to me, super fun, and we

1240
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 3: follow each other on social media good time. I've never

1241
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 3: had any reason to dislike her or disapprove of their friendship, so,

1242
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 3: in all honesty, her facetiming my boyfriend somewhat late at

1243
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: night didn't raise any immediate alarm bells. However, before he answered,

1244
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: he warned me that Michelle was on a beach trip

1245
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 3: with a few other girlfriends. There were three other girls

1246
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: four total, including Michelle. Without trying to get too carried away.

1247
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: I'd like to add some context. Obviously, my boyfriend Nick

1248
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: is two years older than me. Michelle and her three

1249
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: friends are all closer to Nick's age twenty two to

1250
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: twenty three, where I am yet to be twenty one.

1251
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: Including that info is to also express the fact that Michelle,

1252
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 3: these three other girls, and my boyfriend all went to

1253
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: school together, all in the same grade, through high school

1254
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: and maybe middle school as well. Point ban, they've known

1255
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 3: my boyfriend for quite some time. They've also known he

1256
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 3: has been dating me for three years, as these three

1257
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 3: girls also follow me on social media. Like Michelle, I've

1258
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 3: met these other girls a handful of times, but he's

1259
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 3: not as close to them as he is with Michelle.

1260
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 3: I guess the best way to summarize is that they're

1261
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 3: Michelle's friends, but because they all went to school together

1262
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 3: and are the same age, they're all fairly good friends. Anyways,

1263
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: he tells me Michelle is face timing him. He tells

1264
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 3: me she's with three other friends and they're at the beach.

1265
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: I told him he should answer them. They're probably having

1266
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 3: a good time and just want to tell him about it,

1267
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 3: he answers. Michelle and her three friends all immediately start

1268
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 3: screaming my boyfriend's name. They then begin to scream his name,

1269
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 3: followed by show as your big peepee. They were clearly hammered,

1270
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: but I was mortified. What the beep? My boyfriend seemed

1271
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: pretty shocked too, told them he was with me and

1272
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 3: asked what the freak was that about. The girls all

1273
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 3: had a mix of explanations. They were wasted, they meant

1274
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: to call someone else, it was an accident. I think

1275
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 3: I'm really struggling with this because I'm just so shocked

1276
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: and confused. I feel as though I can't blame my

1277
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 3: boyfriend because clearly this is not his fault. But at

1278
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 3: the same time, I do not understand why these girls,

1279
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 3: these women actually would think that an appropriate thing to

1280
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 3: say to someone who has been in a committed relationship

1281
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 3: for four years. It just doesn't make any sense. I

1282
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: feel like I'm also struggling with this because it makes

1283
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 3: me wonder if my boyfriend has created an atmosphere these

1284
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: women think acting this way towards him is okay. I

1285
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 3: feel like he would never do something like that, but

1286
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: I'm just at such a loss. Why would these women

1287
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 3: think that was okay? And why did they only stop

1288
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 3: when Nick told them he was with me. Also, for

1289
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: what it's worth, I'm obviously upset with these women too.

1290
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: We didn't hang out too often, but I'm upset that

1291
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: the few times we did, they were always nice to me,

1292
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 3: and then they did something so vulgar and inappropriate. I

1293
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 3: just don't understand. I'm also so upset at the fact

1294
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: that they did not produce a single valid explanation. Clearly

1295
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 3: they did not mean to call someone else. They gleefully

1296
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 3: scream my boyfriend's name half a dozen times as soon

1297
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: as he answered, that's true. Yeah, and how was that

1298
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 3: an accident? This whole incident happened around eleven last night,

1299
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: and I fell asleep fairly shortly after. When me and

1300
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 3: Nick woke up this morning, we talked about it briefly,

1301
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,160
Speaker 3: and then he left for work. Michelle texted him and

1302
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: said something along the lines of Nick, you're being weird.

1303
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 3: We were just really wasted. Tellopee, We're sorry. They were hammered.

1304
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 3: That was obvious. I still don't understand why they did it.

1305
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 3: I've been inebriated and never have I facetimed someone's boyfriend

1306
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: of several years and asked them to show me their

1307
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 3: we we. It just doesn't add up. Nor does it

1308
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 3: really add up that Michelle said Nick was being weird?

1309
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: How is he acting odd? I think wodo frick was

1310
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: a pretty standard response to that sort of thing, unless

1311
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: they're used to him acting a different way. I just

1312
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 3: do not understand. The only person I talked to this

1313
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: about was my best friend. She knows Nick well only

1314
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 3: through me, though, so maybe there is some bias and

1315
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 3: thinks that these women were probably just wasted. She said.

1316
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: She agrees that while she and I would never do

1317
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 3: something like that under the influence, some women will. That's true.

1318
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: I suppose she could be right, but again, I have

1319
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 3: a hard time making peace with that, simply because I

1320
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 3: would never do that, and these women are all two

1321
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 3: to three years older than me, I suppose. I just

1322
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: can't understand why older women would have such a lower

1323
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 3: level of maturity. I'm sorry for the long post or rant,

1324
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 3: but I'm pretty upset and confused. I would love to

1325
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 3: just be able to shake this off, but it really

1326
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: shocked me to my core. I just keep hearing all

1327
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 3: four of their voices and the chorus of us show

1328
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 3: us your fat, we we and I can't get over it.

1329
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: What the French toast was that m hm. So yeah,

1330
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: any advice or other perspective is appreciated. I'm just at

1331
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: a total loss of explanation right now. Yeah. I mean,

1332
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: obviously I don't think that it's his fault. I think

1333
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 3: the girls, you know, we're just like really intoxicated and

1334
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 3: then they just do that. But it's also like rude

1335
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 3: to think that, like, you know, this guy would just

1336
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: do that, right, I think like it's kind of like

1337
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: he would actually show them that. Yeah. Yeah, I think

1338
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 3: I think, sure, it's it's not his fault, but I

1339
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 3: think your concerns of like well and like questions about

1340
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 3: their relationships is super valid. Yeah, and I think that

1341
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: at least, like, uh be worth a conversation. Like I

1342
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: think you should just tell him like yeah, I feel like,

1343
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, I know that that wasn't your fault and

1344
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: you obviously reacted crazily, but like have they ever done

1345
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: that before? Yeah, Like, I I don't want to blame

1346
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: you for anything, but I do just want to make

1347
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: sure that like that's not how things are. Like I

1348
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 3: I it seems like it's possible, and I might be wrong,

1349
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 3: but it seems possible that that's kind of just how

1350
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 3: your relationship is, and I just want to make things

1351
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:54,519
Speaker 3: clear about that, you know. Yeah, so yeah, I just

1352
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 3: I just that is very weird. I don't think you

1353
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 3: should ever like, I think you should still be mad

1354
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:06,520
Speaker 3: at them also too. They are telling Nick to apologize

1355
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: to you, but they have your social media. They can

1356
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 3: DM you, that's true, and they can apologize themselves. But

1357
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: h And I also would like to note when they

1358
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 3: texted him like saying like you're acting weird blah blah blah. Yeah,

1359
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 3: well obviously, like did you not think that what you

1360
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 3: did last night was weird? Right? Like, So, I think

1361
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 3: that's a great question asked, Like is this something that

1362
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: they normally do? Yeah? Do you respond differently every other time?

1363
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: Like have you ever done it? You know? Like I

1364
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 3: don't want to jump to that he's he's like cheating

1365
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: on her or something like that. Yeah, but I do

1366
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 3: think that these questions need to be asked. Yeah, what

1367
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: we got some comments. I think you're just feeling a

1368
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 3: little insecure and are reading too much into this. Sometimes

1369
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: the demon rum makes people do really stupid things. I mean,

1370
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't like that comment. Yeah, Oh,

1371
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: another comment, reading too much into this. The other woman

1372
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 3: has zero boundaries and respect for neither Op nor her boyfriend.

1373
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 3: If they turned into Jezebel's as soon as they drink,

1374
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 3: Op and her boyfriend would be better off without them.

1375
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 3: That's true. Yeah, even after getting sober, they guilt trip

1376
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 3: her boyfriend because he was acting weird instead of only

1377
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 3: their poop poop behavior. Op responds, thank you for this,

1378
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 3: reading all the comments and starting to wonder if I'm overreacting,

1379
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: but this about sums it up. They didn't seem to

1380
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 3: have any respect for boundaries or our relationship and only

1381
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: stopped when told I was in the room. It's just

1382
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 3: a mess, but I'm glad others understand my perspective. I

1383
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: also agree that saying my boyfriend was acting weird the

1384
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 3: next morning was a bit of a slap in the face.

1385
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 3: What was he supposed to do? Whip it out on FaceTime? Right, honestly? Like, sure,

1386
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: I got her to the people what they want? Say,

1387
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: I like, well, they're getting again, so here he comes. Yeah, ooh, update, ooh,

1388
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 3: let's see it. I honestly don't have a crazy update

1389
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 3: boo that a lot of you seemed to be expecting.

1390
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: I talked to Nick, I explained to him exactly why

1391
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: this whole situation made me feel so uncomfortable. Thank you

1392
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: to all the kind redditors who simply suggested doing that.

1393
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 3: I also expressed to him that their lack of an

1394
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 3: explanation made me all the more uncomfortable. He said he

1395
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 3: understood exactly where I was coming from, and we seem

1396
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: to get a better understanding of each other after the talk. Well,

1397
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 3: that's good, I'm glad. He told me that Michelle had

1398
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: apologized more throughout the day. She had said that her

1399
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 3: and her friends were beyond smashed and they thought it

1400
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 3: would be a funny thing to do to FaceTime all

1401
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 3: their guy's friends and asked to see. Well, you know, so,

1402
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 3: to those of you in the comments who suggested Nick

1403
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 3: was not the only one who got this call, you

1404
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 3: are correct. She also went on to explain that because

1405
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 3: they were so wasted, they didn't realize how awkward it

1406
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 3: was until Nick said, Michelle, OPI is right here. Additionally,

1407
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 3: their mix of it was an accident and we meant

1408
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 3: to call someone else explanations sort of makes sense now

1409
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 3: when you consider just how wasted they were and the

1410
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,759
Speaker 3: fact that they were in fact calling several other dudes

1411
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 3: that night. Michelle also offered to call me directly and

1412
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 3: further apologize, as she should. All the contact her and

1413
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 3: my boyfriend had throughout this conversation was him texting her,

1414
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 3: and he showed me afterwards good. I didn't really think

1415
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 3: that was necessary. I did not want to draw the

1416
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 3: situation out more than it already had gone on. I

1417
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 3: feel as though she's sorry enough, and she does not

1418
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 3: have my number anyways. For those who are probably going

1419
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 3: to say she should have called me anyways, at this point,

1420
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 3: I kind of just wanted to be over the whole mess.

1421
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 3: I did, however, ask my boyfriend if he and Michelle

1422
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 3: or any of her friends had any sort of relations

1423
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 3: prior to meeting me. I agree with that. Yeah, he

1424
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 3: said no, and I believe him. Full disclaimer. I never

1425
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: thought I would be posting this on Reddit, but I

1426
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 3: met my boyfriend when he was nineteen, and he was

1427
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 3: not very experienced with women. Wait and call him out right,

1428
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 3: not even in the kissing department. Drag him through the mud.

1429
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, I fully believe him. He was even a

1430
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 3: bit insecure about his inexperience when we first met the

1431
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 3: rest of the girls Michelle's friends never apologize other than

1432
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 3: Michelle texting saying something to the effort of we're sorry.

1433
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 3: Because I don't know them that well and because they

1434
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 3: probably just felt super uncomfortable about all this, I'm not

1435
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: going to ask for an apology. I will, however, think

1436
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: of them slightly different and probably prefer my boyfriend not

1437
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: to go to any parties or social functions they might

1438
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: be at. No hard feelings, it's just the whole intat

1439
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 3: paired with them not really holding themselves accountable unlike Michelle,

1440
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 3: kind of rubs me the wrong way. I will say

1441
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 3: that because they did not make the call, they probably

1442
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 3: hold themselves to be less guilty than Michelle, which is fair,

1443
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 3: but I can't help but feel like if I were

1444
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 3: in this situation, I would still reach out and apologize

1445
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: for the boundaries cross. Oh well, for those of you

1446
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:28,719
Speaker 3: who kindly suggested Nick maybe cheating with Michelle, I highly

1447
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,759
Speaker 3: doubt it. I have been cheated on once before. Perhaps

1448
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: I should have included that in the original post, as

1449
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 3: it might have added more context as to why this

1450
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: made me so upset. Anyways, I've been cheated on before,

1451
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 3: and I do not see any of these signs in Nick.

1452
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 3: I also think he would have to be pretty skilled

1453
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: if he were doing this, as Michelle has been living

1454
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 3: in college for the past few years, hours away from us,

1455
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 3: and Nick and I have been together almost twenty four

1456
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 3: to seven for the past few months. Because LEVID is

1457
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,639
Speaker 3: still so bad in our country and above all else,

1458
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 3: I trust Nick. I do not think he would do this.

1459
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 3: And finally, to answer the question everyone has been asking

1460
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: away to know, yes, my boyfriend is particularly well endowed.

1461
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: What that crazy? All the comments are just like, yeah,

1462
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 3: that's a terrible thing for them to do, but like,

1463
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 3: but like, can you show us so like put it

1464
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 3: on the suburb right? Oh my god. Anyways, I don't

1465
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: know that i'd call it a super cute Oh my god,

1466
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: what has someone kindly suggested in the comments on my

1467
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: other post? But yeah, it's fat ah ah. Why do

1468
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 3: I have to get a description that I didn't ask for?

1469
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 3: Oh my god. So their request to see his fat

1470
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 3: wee wee made me all the more uncomfortable. When I

1471
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 3: finally worked up the nerve to explain this to my boyfriend,

1472
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 3: he laughed and then immediately started blushing. Gotta love that guy. Oh,

1473
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was gonna say. They start getting busy.

1474
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 3: But now there are some comments. But how do they

1475
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 3: know about it? The only, the only, the only God,

1476
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 3: but hord I know about it. OLP responds, he got

1477
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 3: the nickname big ding Dong nick in high school. Wish

1478
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 3: I was kidding. Wow, so this guy has a reputation,

1479
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 3: I guess, so everyone knows. There's another comment with how

1480
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 3: unexperienced he is and kissing women. Yeah, now I'm old.

1481
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 3: Hang on, wait there, say we're going down. How did

1482
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 3: he get that nickname without much experience with women? Wait?

1483
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 3: Hold on, hold on, locker room male friends high schoolers

1484
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 3: be instigating hormone filled individuals they often are, or probably

1485
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 3: the most likely started out as a joke, but it

1486
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: rhymed then ironically proved to be true. I could see

1487
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: that happening here. I mean, yeah, yeah, like, oh, there's

1488
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 3: one letter difference between his name that isn't the word

1489
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: that he is. So but that is all for that story.

1490
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 3: I think. Ope, it worked out. I think it was

1491
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 3: a little weird at first, but as long as say,

1492
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: you know, apologize and who cares about like the other girls, like,

1493
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: I don't know, I wouldn't expect them to apologize. I'd

1494
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: just be like it's kind of weird that you did that,

1495
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 3: but I guess we can just move on from it

1496
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:44,839
Speaker 3: because I don't really know you guys anyway. Yeah, exactly.

1497
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 3: I'm glad you talked to him about it, and yeah,

1498
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 3: like all your thoughts surrounding it, I think that's super

1499
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 3: important that you did. Yeah, because, like, honestly, my first thought,

1500
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 3: which was so bad and not even something I ever

1501
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: even do, was just to be like cold to him

1502
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 3: for a while and just be like, yeah, this is

1503
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 3: just weird and you should know that. But obviously my

1504
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 3: thought was wrong, and I'm glad. I'm glad they talked

1505
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: because I was. I was literally like listening to it

1506
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's what they should do. And

1507
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: then as I was thinking that, I was like, that's true,

1508
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 3: that's no, I should probably talk about it. Hold on,

1509
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: they did. I'm the same way. I'm like, gotta give

1510
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 3: him the cult. Sure, he has to know that he

1511
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 3: did wrong, even though it wasn't his fault. I'm just like, yeah,

1512
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 3: you need to know. That made me uncomfortable. I know,

1513
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 3: It's like I don't. I don't even know where that

1514
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 3: thought came from because usually I go to communication, so

1515
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm glad you didn't. You have

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: the same intrusion, that's what I Yeah. Yeah, good job

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Speaker 3: of b Yeah, good job for not being ancient, right,