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Speaker 2: For me, I'm a man, I'm forty. I've heard so

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Speaker 2: many players say, well, I want to be happy. You

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Speaker 2: want to be happy for a day? Edith State is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Dan Robinstein preview season. It's finally upon us. We got

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Speaker 1: one episode that we dropped about a week ago. Now

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Speaker 1: we're really starting to rev up the engines. We're flipping

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Speaker 1: up the three episodes a week, every Sunday, every Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: every Thursday, and we are officially on this episode starting

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Speaker 1: off with our conference previews. We've got the sun Belt,

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Speaker 1: We've got the Mac, and we've got the American. Today,

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Speaker 1: on our next episode, we will continue our journey through

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Speaker 1: the group of five slash six conferences. But alas, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to previews season. My friend, how are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm very glad you mentioned reving up the

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Speaker 2: engine because there's a whole lot of combustion happening and

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Speaker 2: about to happen here on the solid verbal and tight Look.

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Speaker 2: It's we're nearing the apex of summertime, and everybody wants

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Speaker 2: to be hot, Tie, every team wants to be hot,

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Speaker 2: every program wants to be hot. You want hot soup,

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Speaker 2: you want hot coffee, right, you want a hot shower. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's just there's a certain amount of pleasure tie, pleasure

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Speaker 2: that comes with friction that comes with heat. Tie. And

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Speaker 2: we accidentally decided totally by accident, totally thematically. But you

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Speaker 2: know what, I think it works really well. Like I

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Speaker 2: feel like we can put these puzzle pieces together to

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Speaker 2: with the sensical. And I like heat as a theme

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Speaker 2: here tie. Yeah, because too, even if the idea of

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Speaker 2: moment momentum can be argued, the idea of juice, and

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Speaker 2: the idea of a program or player or coach or

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Speaker 2: system or whatever having heat, it can't be argued because

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Speaker 2: you just have to believe it or you don't. It's fine.

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Speaker 2: And I like the idea of going into this preview

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Speaker 2: season with a sort of heat scale with literal not

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Speaker 1: Heat. Yeah, we're doing a heat check. This is a

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Speaker 1: big old heat check. I'm thrilled with it, Ty, I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled with it now. We got to this point because

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Speaker 1: we're having fun with what Lorenzo Lamas and the very

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Speaker 1: short lived show Are You Hot? Very short lived, very inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: I have four Lamis sounds now on the soundboard, obviously,

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Speaker 1: because that's what we do here. We will roll those

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Speaker 1: through the Sunbelt in the American for this episode, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get to that here in due course. But yes,

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Speaker 1: we happened upon this by accident. I am weirdly very

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Speaker 1: money like. All of this stuff, yeah, certainly has its place,

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Speaker 2: This would be a good time to remind everybody that

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Speaker 2: the year was twenty fifteen. We were doing an ad

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Speaker 1: It was you left me the show to your credit.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: Then, okay, why don't we start off this grand shin

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Speaker 2: Right there in the title the Hottest conference name there

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Speaker 2: Dan fortunately or unfortunately, Yeah, have you.

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Speaker 2: Letter, you introduced my flawfinder.

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Speaker 1: Again lining it up running it directly at a Sunbelt

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00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: defense is usually a pretty good formula, so they can

436
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: do that. I think they'll be okay. We have come

437
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: to expect good offenses from major Apple White teams. I'm

438
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: curious if it looks different this year because the wide

439
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 1: receiver corps is basically starting over. I don't know what

440
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: to expect there. So I know he likes the pasth,

441
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: but I think the strength might be more on the

442
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: ground than through the air. Also, kind of starting over

443
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 1: on the defensive line and the secondary both are huge concerns.

444
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: If I'm South Alabama again, I run the crap out

445
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: of the ball, I eat the clock. I try to

446
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: keep the defense off the field. There's a lot of

447
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: half team potential here. I think a lot of the

448
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: defense is a work in progress. I would not go

449
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: with the over seven and a half for South Alabama.

450
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: There's just too many variables here to feel good about

451
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: where they're gonna be. I don't think it's gonna be

452
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: a bad team. I think they'll be competitive. I'm just

453
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: not super confident that it's all going to click, especially

454
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, right. Interesting note

455
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: they host Louisiana on November the first. I could totally

456
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: see that game being a lot like last year, decided

457
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: in twenty four to twenty two, something to that nature.

458
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be a propensity for both

459
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: of them to play ground and pound and slow and

460
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 1: just try to keep the defense off the field as

461
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: much as possible makes sense. And then the other, if

462
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm going by cluster here, the other team that I

463
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: think is really interesting in this conference is Georgia Southern.

464
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: Georgia Southern has not been talked about nearly enough.

465
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: Give me some Clay thoughts, I don't We don't talk.

466
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: Enough about Clay Helton in the job he's done. Like, yeah,

467
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: he took a lot of shit for what went down

468
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: at USC, but his ability here to kind of shepherd

469
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 1: this team from running triple option to now more of

470
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: an air raid successfully, he's been successful at doing that.

471
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: That almost never happens. There's almost always another coach that

472
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: steps in after a previous coach attempts the transition because

473
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: it's hard, you don't have the personnel. It takes forever.

474
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: It's he's been able to do it It is not

475
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: an easy transition. It's really freaking hard to do. He's

476
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: done a good job of it. He got a new

477
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: contract as a result of it in the offseason. He

478
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: has done a really good job at Southern eight and

479
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: five a year ago. Two of their five losses were

480
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: against Boise and will Miss. The others were at Old

481
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Dominion home against Troy, home against sam Houston in the

482
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: bowl game, I guess, not home against sam Houston in

483
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: the against Sam Houston in the bowl game. They did

484
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: beat JMU. They did beat Marshall Marshall of course, and

485
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: ended up as the conference champion. I like this team

486
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: a lot. It's another half team though, no d Yeah.

487
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the defense in a second, but like offensively,

488
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: this is probably the best offense that Clay Hilton's had

489
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: in his time here, and I think it's going to

490
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: pose a real issue in a conference where there just

491
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: aren't good secondaries Dan they're few and far between here.

492
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: I think J. C. French, their junior quarterback, is going

493
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: to have a big year. I like his options out

494
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: why they've got good depth. This is a line that

495
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 1: brings back three starters, four guys with starting experience, I'm

496
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: willing to talk about this being the best line in

497
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: the conference and one of the better offenses in the conference. Sure,

498
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a legit good passing

499
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: offense that's going to have teams on skates. In his defense, though,

500
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: it's like, yes, it got better last season from twenty

501
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: twenty three, but we're still talking about like the ninety

502
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: first best defense in the country. So I think they're

503
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: good upfront. I think they're okay in the back. They

504
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: brought in some younger transfers that maybe can grow with

505
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: the team. But it's just an open question about like

506
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: how much better is this defense? Gonna get used to

507
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: say it about teams all the time. Oklahoma's one that

508
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: comes to mind, But like, marginal improvement on defense makes

509
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: his team a lot better. Marginal improvement probably makes me

510
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: feel good about taking that over seven and a half.

511
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: I still like them to go over seven and a half.

512
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: I would like them more if I felt better about

513
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: the defense. I thought Bill c. Bill Connolly said it

514
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: best when he said that they have a high floor.

515
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: I tend to agree. I can squint and see a

516
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: nine and three season. I don't want to put my

517
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: name to that, but okay, I would go over seven

518
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: and a half here.

519
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: I like it.

520
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: What's the next group that's sort of your cluster at

521
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: the top, Yes, all right, your next group is where

522
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: we start. Like, okay, where are we headed with this thing?

523
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: Where are we going? We've got a bunch of teams

524
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: that are clumped together with six and a half over

525
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: unders or five and a half over unders. Marshall went

526
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: ten and three last year. They won the conference and

527
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: then they did not play in the bowl game because

528
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: so many guys transferred OU when Charles Huff left. Yes,

529
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: this was a certified mess at the end of last

530
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 1: season ten and three. Two of the three losses were

531
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: against Virginia Tech and Ohio State, so not bad losses.

532
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: They also won a crazy overtime game two overtime game

533
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: against JMU last game of the season their loss. Their

534
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: other third loss was against Georgia Southern who I just

535
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: mentioned twenty four to twenty three. Talk about a freaking

536
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: whipsaw man, Like you put it on Louisiana, You'll win

537
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 1: the conference thirty one to three. Then Charles Huff and

538
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: pretty much everybody leaves to the point where they opt

539
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: out Marshall players win in the.

540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: Portal five zero that so many people. It's crazy context, Yeah, crazy.

541
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: As Phil Steele put it, And I thought this was

542
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: a great way to kind of add context here. There

543
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: are more returning Marshall players on the Southern Miss roster

544
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: than there are on Marshall. Twenty one of those fifty

545
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: ended up going with Charles Huff the Southern Miss. Yeah,

546
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: which is a crazy number. So look now they got

547
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: Tony Gibson stepping in from NC State. It's like an

548
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: unprecedented test of how he's going to be able to

549
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: construct this roster. With how it's reset. This isn't even

550
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: I've joked about control alt delete before. This isn't even

551
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: a control alt delete. This is hey, unplug it for

552
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Yeah, let the router reboot and then plug

553
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: it back in and see what See what happens. They

554
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: returned zero rushing yards from last year's roster, one of

555
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: their eight defensive linemen with more than fifty snaps, only

556
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: three linebackers snap from last year's team, not guys snaps,

557
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: and only two of their thirteen defensive backs with more

558
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: than thirty snaps. So this is ridiculous. Yet the vibes

559
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: are good. The vibes are really cool. Yeah, Ticket sales

560
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: are up, donations are up. The fan base seems engaged.

561
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: It's a coaching staff with like really strong West Virginia

562
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: Rootstony Gibson and some of the others on the staff.

563
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: People are excited to like move forward with a new chapter,

564
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: which I thought was kind of cool. You know a

565
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of reports about guys buying in. You know, it's

566
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: the popular cliche whenever you've got a new guy in town.

567
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: But they're if you're gonna strip it down to the

568
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: studs and start over, especially in this dramatic of fashion

569
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: to get buy in like this, like ah, all right,

570
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: They're going to try to build the offense for speed,

571
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: like rely a lot on the run, have a little

572
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: bit of pop that they can beat deep if you

573
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: over commit. It looks like the new quarterback is Carlos

574
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: Real Wilson, remember him, of course Syracuse Zion Turner from

575
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: You Got, both of whom are like mobile guys who

576
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: fit the system. It's just a hard schedule. It's a

577
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: team that's entirely new. The over unders five and a half.

578
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm not touching that, but I do think the fact

579
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: that the vibes are strong at Marshall is a good thing.

580
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: That's at least a good starting point. We know that

581
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: can wear off quickly, but at least for the time being.

582
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: You know that's an okay place to be. Arkansas State.

583
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: I love Arkansas Date.

584
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: Okay, why is that?

585
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: You know how we get emails every year from people

586
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: who are like abroad, maybe on a military base, and

587
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: they won an offbeat wild card team to root for.

588
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to nominate Arkansas Date in the right Okay,

589
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: eight wins last year it was zear four of Butcher Jones.

590
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: He has improved this team's win total every season since

591
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: he's been in Jonesborough. I did look up where Arkansas

592
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: State is located. I did not know jones Borough off

593
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the top of my head. Full as Closures is a

594
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: show about honesty. Yeah, this is going to be a

595
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: fun team on offense. His teams can be fun as

596
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: hell on offense. Jalen Rainer their quarterback. He was the

597
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Sun Belt Freshman of the Year two years ago, had

598
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: a better season last year. There is enough back that

599
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: he's going to improve again. So now this is also

600
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: his third season under Keith Heckendorf. The offensive coordinator. All

601
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: too often in this day and age, we have seen

602
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: coordinators coming and going his third year with the same coordinator.

603
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: I think is also reason enough to give us confidence

604
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: that he's going to continue improving. He can run, he

605
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: is mobile, that is not his preference. He wants to

606
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: throw it. And he's just one of these guys that

607
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: finds a way to make things happen on a bust

608
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: to play his wide receiver one Corey Rucker. He already

609
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: leads Arkansas State just over his career in terms of

610
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: receiving yardage. They bring in some help as well. I

611
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: think they go about three deep at running back, which

612
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Quez Cross who had thirteen hundred dollars purpose yards last season.

613
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: I really like this team. The problem I have, where's

614
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: my flawfinder?

615
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: You know, your face and your personality make up for

616
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 3: that extra seven to ten pounds and problem.

617
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: You know, just brutal. Loss is brutal? WHOA what a jerk?

618
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: The flaw is that you're only a wildcard if you

619
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: know you're only entering too this wildcard conversation for me

620
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: if you've got some real flaws. And Arkansas State loses

621
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: four of five linemen and there are questions abound on

622
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: the defense. Man, like, this is a bad defense. A

623
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: year ago, there's only one starter back, butch tried to

624
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: work the portal to beef up the defense. I'm just

625
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: not sure how that's going to go. So I think

626
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the reason that I point to Arkansas State is one

627
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: of those interesting teams. They're gonna play in a lot

628
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: of shootouts. They've got really good skill talent that we

629
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: should see on display, and they got questions everywhere else,

630
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't think they're contending for the West,

631
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: but I think they're gonna dump one or two teams

632
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: of merit. They do host Iowa State a week after

633
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: the Syhawk, they host Georgia Southern a week after Southern plays,

634
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: and their rivalry against Georgia State. Another fun scheduling quirk

635
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: that I found for Arkansas State. Six of Arkansas State's

636
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: twelve games fall before or after an opponent's by Wow,

637
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: so you know you got a high powered offense against

638
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: team play, maybe a getaway game or I don't know,

639
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: there's something a monitor. Yeah, all right, So again I'm

640
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm blong winded with these. Okay, Curry, we're at thirty minutes.

641
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: It did five teams. That's a six teams. That's a

642
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: little much. So let me tell you why to be

643
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: entertained about the rest of the Sun Belt. I have

644
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot more detail here. We can share some of that.

645
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Maybe on a bonus episode, I'll make a post it. Well,

646
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, if these are things that are of interest

647
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: to you and you're a patren I remember, let me know.

648
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: But teams that entertained me, Old Dominion entertains me. Old

649
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Dominion is one of these teams that's worth following. Tell

650
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: me why six of seven losses last year were in

651
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: one score games. So I like their quarterback situation with

652
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: Colton Joseph. He was an nice catalyst for this offense.

653
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: In conference games a year ago, Odu was second in

654
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: yards per play. It's just like depth, it's skill positions.

655
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: It's finding the right guys to put around him that

656
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I think could make this team more interesting. The schedule, I.

657
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 2: Kind of have a problem with your hair. It's bothering me.

658
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: The schedules brutal. Yeah, at Indiana at Virginia Tech, Liberty

659
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: at JMU at Georgia Southern.

660
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.

661
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: That's tough. Over under six and a half I'm not

662
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: touching it, but I do like what I see from ODU.

663
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: I think we'll see improvement. I think they're gonna be

664
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: really competitive. I think they might challenge JMU or Georgia Southern.

665
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: They're a great bottom line team, right Yeah, like ODI

666
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: us up on Virginia Tech by how many with how

667
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: much time left?

668
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm I'm on board of them finishing top half

669
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: of the East. Probably not going to sign up for

670
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: much more than that. Okay, I am going in a

671
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: little bit on Troy. You know, I'm not a j

672
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm not a Jared Parker fan. It sounds like you are.

673
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm still not. I would have paid for

674
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: the first class plane ticket to get him out of

675
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: South Bend to go to any job, not just this one.

676
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: But I will say this, it is not entirely surprising

677
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: to see Troy, a program that had five double digit

678
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: win seasons in the last decade, dropped to four and

679
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: eight last season for reasons other than the coach. Okay,

680
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: we cannot put it all on Jared Parker. There were

681
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: four starters back last year, Dog four and it was

682
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: a tough schedule. The quarterback got hurt and like the

683
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: first series of their conference play. However, cynical I am

684
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: on Jared Parker. We should mention that he stepped into

685
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: a rebuilding situation and he didn't like Torpedo the whole.

686
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: Thing, right, But a winning program an Troy and with

687
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 2: John Summral.

688
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the reason that I think we should feel

689
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: good about them, and the reason that I'm entertained, and

690
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the reason that I think there's at least a little

691
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: bit of spice on They started one and seven, they

692
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: finished three to one. They did not bail on him.

693
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: They did not bail on him, So they're definitely still

694
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: in rebuilding mode. It doesn't sound like they're talking that way. Internally,

695
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of belief, and you know, you hear

696
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: about all the positive vibes and stuff Internally. Part of

697
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: the issue last year was that quarterback injury to Goose Crowder,

698
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: who is now back. Also they call him Goose, which

699
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 1: is fun like that keeps me entertained. Of course, there

700
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: might be six losses on the schedule. I don't see seven,

701
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: So I see a feisty six and sixteam, and I

702
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: put a lot of stock in these teams, you know this,

703
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: that finish strong even when the season is basically over.

704
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: So I like Troy. I also I like Coastal. Coastal

705
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: Carolina six and seven last year. Last year was a

706
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: comedy of airs, which didn't help. Got worse across the

707
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: board last year, but still went to a bowl, which

708
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: is a plus. Yes in its own right. According to

709
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: Phil Steele, there are sixty seven new players on this roster,

710
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: which is nut.

711
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: I had a triple check that unless he made a

713
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: mistake and other people made a mistake, sixty seven new people.

714
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: That's a lot and it's hard for Tim Beck to

715
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: build chemistry based on that. I am optimistic about the offense.

716
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: I like their new offensive coordinator Drew hollings Head. Okay,

717
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: if I said that correctly. He looks like Kellen Moore

718
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: with a beard is what I'm okay what I'm getting

719
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: at here. But I like what they bring back. There's

720
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: like a veteran presence out wide, Jameson, Tucker, Cameron right.

721
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to listen names here, Okay. I really

722
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: wanted to list Coastal as a dark horse in the East.

723
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: I can't do it. There is too much new. I

724
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: think the schedule's really tough. They also played James Madison

725
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: at home the last game of the year, in addition

726
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: to at UVA at South Alabama, at ODU at app State,

727
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: app Georgia Southern at South Carolina just in case they

728
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: need another loss in there. I will talk in more

729
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,240
Speaker 1: detail about Coastal Carolina on one of our bonus episodes.

730
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: But I like him. I'm struggling with how much I

731
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 1: like him, like. I still haven't figured that part out yet.

732
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: App State's like entirely new five and a half over.

733
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: I don't new coach, yep, yeah, it's all new Dol Loggins. Yeah.

734
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four was the first losing season they've had

735
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: since they joined the FBS ranks back in twenty fourteen,

736
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: and so that's given way to extreme makeover. Mountaineer edition

737
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: is what we're looking at here, with the coaching staff

738
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: and the scheme and a ton of new players and

739
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: just complete uncertainty about what happens next. This is the

740
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 1: reason why I said a few weeks ago, and I

741
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: think some people misinterpreted this app State's one of the

742
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: more interesting teams in the country because it could all

743
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: go horribly wrong. I'm fascinated to see what the new

744
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: coach Dal Logins looks like he comes over from South Carolina.

745
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: He looks like a younger version of Matt Rule. If

746
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: we're talking at toppelgangers here.

747
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: Does he have a smock? Does he have that clear

748
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: Baylor smock? Unclear?

749
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: Okay, very aggressive in the portal, which tells me he's

750
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: trying to jump start this thing quickly and maybe try

751
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: to pull a signetti. It's almost impossible to judge his

752
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: team this year. Seventeen new starters. Am I supposed to

753
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: take anything from that? AJ Swan comes over from LSU,

754
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be AJ Swan. JJ Cole at quarterback comes

755
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: over from Iowa State.

756
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's LSU. Via, that's Vanderbilt as well. Right before LSU. Yeah.

757
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: Play also their.

758
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator DJ Smith, former legend there. You might be

759
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: surprised to learn once to run an aggressive attacking defense.

760
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Of course, of course, I would not touch this win

761
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: total with a ten foot poll. I am also not

762
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: judging this season purely on wins and losses. I think

763
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: we're going to learn a lot by just understanding how

764
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: long it takes for the team to mash level of

765
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: effort throughout the course of the season. It's just it's

766
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: so easy to lose the plot when you're basically speed

767
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: dating trying to fill roster spots like this, and you

768
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: put a bunch of guys together don't know each other,

769
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: like it could come together, it could bode well, really

770
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: well for Dalla Loggins. But I just you know, if

771
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: it looks good and if it seems like they're on

772
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: the same page by the end of the year, that's

773
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: a dub in my book. Okay, Texas State. I like

774
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: Texas State. I'm not sure how much. Okay, they also

775
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: have a seven and a half win total. I forgot

776
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: to mention them earlier. I like GJ. Kinney, Like that's it.

777
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: I've liked him since he got there. He's the portal

778
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: king of the G five ranks fifty new guys last year,

779
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: thirty six again this year. He's raised the floor for

780
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: this program with back to back eight and five seasons.

781
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: So the offense in particular, it's fun as hell. This

782
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: is why we watched Texas State. But Jordan McLoud has

783
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: gone so new quarterback Brad Jackson, I don't know. He

784
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: might not be the best fit for the program. It

785
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: might be another transfer that they got Keldrick Luster comes

786
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: over from SMU. Nate Yarknell is also in town. I'm

787
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: really curious to see how the offense takes shape. I

788
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: think that's the point of intrigue for Texas State. They've

789
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: got good options in the running back room and you

790
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: know elsewhere. He doesn't tend to rely on one guy

791
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: on the ground, So I think we're going to see

792
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys to get a lot of work.

793
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: But I won't play the flawfinder sound the problems like

794
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: defense for Texas State. You already knew that pass rush

795
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: in the line. You know, the pass rush in the

796
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: line actually are good. The problem is if you don't

797
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: have the secondary that can sort of back you up

798
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: when you're rushing the passer like that, that's a problem

799
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: and that's where they got into trouble. So they need

800
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: to continue getting better either in the secondary or up front,

801
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: preferably both, and if they don't, it's a real problem.

802
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: And also they had killer penalties, like boneheaded penalties last

803
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: year in key spots, So I don't know if that's

804
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: a communication thing, a coaching thing, or what they need

805
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: to get better at that One game to watch here

806
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: on the schedule October the fourth against Arkansas State. It's

807
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: going to be a fun shootout. Nice talk about Georgia State.

808
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: I like Del McGhee. There's a lot of steam on

809
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: him when he came over l Yeah. They have Christian

810
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: Veyu back, they have Ted Hurst back out wide. I

811
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: think the front seven is good. I think it's notable

812
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: on this show that they have a safety named de

813
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: Icy Hopkins.

814
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: Okay on the heat shell.

815
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a tough schedule and I don't really

816
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: expect a whole lot. So that said, they signed the

817
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: best recruiting class in all the Sun Belt, better than

818
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the Louisville, better than Tulane and Kansas, and you see,

819
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: it could just be that this is going to take

820
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: some time. I think that's where we're at. ULM is

821
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: fun because they're going to run the hell out of

822
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: the football. They established an identity last season. As Bill

823
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: c put it, They're going to run as much as

824
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: is allowable. They're kind of like the Army or Navy

825
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: of the Sun Belt. So watch for that. I'm interested

826
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: in going over four and a half for ULM.

827
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: Tough scale.

828
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 1: M'd be eight Bowl teams on that frisky Southern Miss.

829
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: I talked about Charles Hoff earlier. They've got a bunch

830
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,919
Speaker 1: of guys that were on the Sun Belt championship team

831
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: from a year ago, and they bring over a bunch

832
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: of other folks from other situations as well. So it's

833
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: a lot to get your head around with all these

834
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: new faces. But if I told you six months from

835
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: now that it all worked and Southern Miss made a bowl,

836
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: you would believe it. A great story in the wake

837
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: of what Dion Sanders has done and what GJ. Kinney

838
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: I just mentioned at Texas State has a depth of

839
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: where Southern Miss has been. I kind of like the schedule.

840
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they're winning the conference or the West,

841
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: but most everybody in this conference saw a ton of

842
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: roster turnover. Maybe it's not this extreme, but I think

843
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: there's a real chance that it could work and people

844
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: are just missing Southern Miss because frankly, it's hard to gauge.

845
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: I don't think I got I don't think I missed

846
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: everybody or anybody. At this point. I think I got

847
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: through my sun Belt. I took way too much time

848
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: doing it. I pure okay, but I'm really excited about

849
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: the sun Belt. I think these clusters make it interesting.

850
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: My pick is JMU. Don't think JMU is the pick here.

851
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be in the playoff conversation.

852
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: But there are certainly points of intrigue, and I'm going

853
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,280
Speaker 1: to go I'll go into all that more, I promise

854
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: on Patreon and unpack some of these other nuggets that

855
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: I was able to harvest out. Why don't you give

856
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: me a break? Yeah, and why don't we talk about

857
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: the Mac?

858
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so the Mac nobody knows, nobody knows anything. There

859
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: are likely four good to very good to possibly sometimes

860
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: good teams at the top in Ohio, Toledo, Miami and Buffalo.

861
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: Those seem like they're the teams that have the best

862
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: chance at distancing themselves from the middle of the conference.

863
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: Now we can have an NIU conversation, we can have

864
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: maybe a Bowling Green conversation. I mean, that's a team

865
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: that is brought in, I mean new head coach and

866
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Eddie George high profile has been a head coach, albeit

867
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: at a lower level at Tennessee State, but brings in

868
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: a guy like Drew Pine, and there's there's interesting talent

869
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 2: at Bowling Green. Despite all the turnover with Scott Leffler

870
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: leaving for the Philadelphia Eagles, I believe quarterbacks coach Yes,

871
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Scott with one T, Scott with one tea. Right, it's

872
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: you've sort of come to expect what a lot of

873
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: these teams are going to be every year, and weirdly enough,

874
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: it goes against what I think the national perception of

875
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: the MAC was over a lot of time, which is

876
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: all those shootouts on Tuesday Night fifty eight, fifty two,

877
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: forty nine, forty eight kind of thing. A lot of

878
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: these teams are led by defense. Like you can go

879
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: through most of this conference short a couple of teams

880
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 2: and say, man, they just can't figure it out on offense,

881
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: but they can depend on their defense. The defense is

882
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: ahead of the offense. Last year the champion Ohio was

883
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 2: very much the case, so they figured things out late.

884
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: This is also a conference that just when you group

885
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: it as a whole, you're gonna see a lot of

886
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: teams start the season one in three because there's a

887
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: lot of money games and a lot of pay to play, right.

888
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: There's a lot of like at Washington, at Florida, at

889
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: Ohio State to start the season like okay, all right,

890
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: Kent State that's a decision. It's funning your entire athletic

891
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: department for a year. I get it. Don't know how

892
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: I could do something different. I don't know how I

893
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: can argue against it. But what ends up happening is

894
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: a lot of teams start out terribly and have you

895
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: know the points allowed one hundred and fifty eight, the

896
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: points scored sixteen kind of way to start the season.

897
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: And then the teams who are actually decent and actually

898
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: have you know, the ability to understand how they're weathering September,

899
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: they rattle off five in a row or six out

900
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 2: of seven. So I guess in terms of like our

901
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: Lorenzo Lama's dictionary stretch marks tie, there's a lot of

902
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: stretch marks within the MECH. There's a lot you look

903
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: at the end of the season last year, there's a

904
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: lot of lost five one seven, one five one seven

905
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: of eight kind of situations in the MECH. And that's

906
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: great and I'm here for it. I enjoy it. It's

907
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: always entertaining. Almost all of these teams were depleted or

908
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: have hired new coaches from you know, Kent State and

909
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: the late weird situation with Kenny Burns. There's a new

910
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: coach there. There's a new coach at Central Michigan with

911
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: Jim mckaway retiring, stepping down. There's a new coach at

912
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: UMass who is joining the conference. So there's just for

913
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: me to sit here and say, I like, you know,

914
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: this team getting over their five and a half win total.

915
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: It's insane. It's insane for most of these teams to

916
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: have strong opinions like, do I think NIU is a

917
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 2: well coached team with Thomas Hammock, Yeah, definitely. They can't

918
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: figure out offense. That's been a consistent thing with NIU.

919
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 2: So how do like, what do I feel good about?

920
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: Five and a half? Six and a half, seven and

921
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: a half? They beat a team who played for the

922
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: national championship. I don't know if you remember this in

923
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

924
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: But it's of note here.

925
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't play enough good football consistently and haven't

926
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: been good enough at finding answers on offense to feel

927
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: really good about them. They're a quality team. There's a

928
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: lot of quality teams in this conference. And for as

929
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: much as the turnover, for as much as the like

930
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: the lows of recent UMass and who's joining again for

931
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 2: the first time.

932
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: Hold on, we have a stat that.

933
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: A Broner tombshells answering the Fellas is in the villa.

934
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: So in this situation, UMass is love Island. Everybody is

935
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: going to love taking on UMass in the short term

936
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: with a new coach, Joe Harris Simiac, I think coming

937
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: over from Rutgers.

938
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: I think you got the phonetic spelling of that, right, Yeah.

939
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Joe Harris Simak been a good coordinator at Rutgers.

940
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: Has a very much uphill battle. U Mass has taken

941
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 2: a lot of different roads to try and find a

942
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 2: head coach who can get them to bowl eligibility. Has

943
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: not worked out. No, not worked out for Don Brown,

944
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: for Walt Belt, Walt Bell, excuse me, who's now at

945
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: Western Michigan. Has not worked out for a lot of

946
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: these teams. And so I kind of just want to

947
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: focus on that top four chunkage at the moment, because

948
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: there's it doesn't seem like there's a path right now

949
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: for Akron, who's not even going bowling because the grades

950
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: and retention rates, the API scores have fallen to a

951
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: pretty terrible level. Defense is a little bit ahead of

952
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: its offense, which is weird to say for a Joe

953
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: moorehead team, but they're just it's gonna be a real

954
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: tough road for Acron, It's gonna be real tough road

955
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,479
Speaker 2: for ums Me, a real tough road for Kent State,

956
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: probably for ball State. With a new coach, he was

957
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: Butler's head coach last year, Mike Yuremovich. It's gonna be

958
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: Hopefully there will be moments of entertainment from some of

959
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: those teams and you know, fun individual players, but the

960
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: ceiling seems pretty low for that foursome. This has been

961
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: a conference in that top chunkage everywhere in the conference

962
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: that has been I called it, what did I say?

963
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 2: The Mac Chance You with Dion Colsey and de Kwan

964
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 2: Finn and Chip train them and Drew Pine. There's a

965
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: lot of guys that you just like. I hope this

966
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: is a fun last year for these guys. I really

967
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: hope this is they find their home. So Dakwan Finn

968
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: coming back to the Mac, Miami Ohio, He's mister Ohio

969
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 2: for this show. Ty, we don't need to call it

970
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio because there's no other Miami. If we

971
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: just talking about the Mac, that's right. You have to

972
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: refer to the other one as Miami of Florida, Sir,

973
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: that's right on this show. Yes, yes, so Chuck Martin's

974
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: been around forever. He's won a ton of games for Miami.

975
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: Their big thing is like they win a bunch of games,

976
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: and they lose some close games because he's pretty conservative,

977
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: kind of plays not to win and now has a

978
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: fun new quarterback and Dakwan Finn, who has succeeded in

979
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: the MAC at Toledo, tried to make it work over

980
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: at Baylor. Didn't work out for him. He's back in

981
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 2: the MAC and Miami will once again likely be led

982
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: by its defense and will likely once again be a

983
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: difficult out, even with a ton of roster turnover. I'll

984
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: stick with that theme. Ohio won the conference last year

985
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: Tim Albin and a ton of players left. Tim Albin

986
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: went to Charlotte. Ohio promoted their offensive coordinator and Brian Smith.

987
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 2: They return their starting quarterback who probably threw too many

988
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: picks but was still pretty decent and also ran for

989
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: a thousand yards. And this is kind of what Ohio does.

990
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: They lose a bunch of players and they keep winning.

991
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: Now they haven't really won the conference. Before last year.

992
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: But they've been competitive, they've been good. I don't believe

993
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 2: they have any more Canadian quarterbacks locked in storage of

994
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: some kind.

995
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: The Rourke family dynasty has.

996
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: Nathan and Curtis have moved on to They're not dead,

997
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: They've just moved on to new places in life. But

998
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: Ohio's gonna be fun. The Ohio defense should once again

999
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: be good enough even with new players. There's enough continuity

1000
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: in the coaching staff that I feel good that this

1001
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: program is still going to be competitive and a tough program.

1002
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: The schedule is not terrible, and I don't even look

1003
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: at the non conference if you look up like toughest

1004
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: schedules in the MAC that like, this team has West

1005
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: Virginia and Ohio State and like, okay, whatever, that's fine.

1006
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: Ohio's going to be good. Toledo, for which is weird

1007
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: to say, hasn't been able as another one of those

1008
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: teams led by its defense. Obviously, they've had notable names

1009
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 2: in the secondary recently and continue to do so. They

1010
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: have continuity on offense, but they haven't be able to

1011
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 2: figure things out on offense. I think overall, their talent

1012
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 2: level is still basically the highest in the conference. And

1013
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: so even though they haven't been winning the conference at

1014
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: the level you'd expect, given you the continuity with Jason

1015
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: Kandell being there for as long as he has, this

1016
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 2: is me a quality team. So that's Toledo, that's Ohio,

1017
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: that's Miami of Ohio. Excuse me, just Miami. Buffalo's fascinating

1018
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: to me, the Bulls Buffalo. If I am high on

1019
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: a team, I'm high on Pete Lambo in Buffalo. Why

1020
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: so they bring in to Kwan Roberson who I think

1021
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: was recruited to Penn State in twenty eighteen. I think

1022
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: that was the year of the correct year. We're now

1023
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 2: deep into twenty twenty five. It's not even barely twenty

1024
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: twenty five. We are deep into twenty twenty five. But

1025
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: in year one, Pete Lembo, who had experience, who has

1026
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: experience in the MAC, returned to the MAC once again,

1027
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: return to the MAC. Patriot League. Guy played at Georgetown,

1028
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: coached at Lehigh. So maybe I just have a soft

1029
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 2: spot for a guy with Pat League bona fides, that's right.

1030
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: But year one coming in coming in late with how

1031
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 2: Molinguist left and getting this team to a bowl game,

1032
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 2: getting this team to nine wins. I just think he's quality.

1033
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: I always, I mean speaking a soft spot. This is

1034
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: like kind of a sidebar. I like special teams coaches

1035
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: getting head coaching jobs. Big Shane Biemer, guy, Well it's

1036
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: Shane Biemer. Urban Meyer had special teams experience. John Harbaugh, right,

1037
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 2: was the special teams coach for the Eagles before he

1038
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: took the Ravens job. There's something about those guys where

1039
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: you have to pay so much attention to detail regarding

1040
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: so many different facets of football, and that if your

1041
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 2: team has good special teams, it kind of limits dumb

1042
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 2: dumb mistakes. And if you're a college football team playing

1043
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 2: at a competitive conference and you can limit dumb dumb

1044
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: mistakes in punt coverage, in kicking field goals or blocking

1045
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: field goals or hands team situations, I just kind of

1046
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: like that. I don't know what it is, okay, And

1047
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 2: I think you're just on the margins. It's going to

1048
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: be a positive thing if you have more hands on

1049
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: deck with special teams. Fair enough, Okay, So I think

1050
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: to Kwan Robson, we'll see you know, Penn State to

1051
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 2: Yukon to Kansas State, now to Buffalo. Sure four schools

1052
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: in seven years, four schools in seven years. They open

1053
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: with Minnesota. Okay, interesting enough, don't they're road games like

1054
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: Central Michigan with a new coach, Bowling Green with a

1055
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: new coach. You mess with a new coach, can't State

1056
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: with a new coach. That's pretty good. They miss Toledo,

1057
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: they miss who else do they miss? They miss? They

1058
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: get Bowling Green and they have Miami. But like Miami's

1059
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 2: at home after that Central Michigan game. Like I just

1060
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: they don't have the Ohio State and Michigan and Texas Town.

1061
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,399
Speaker 2: They don't have those teams. They have Minnesota to open

1062
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: the air. I just think there's a lot of wins

1063
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 2: on this schedule. We'll see what happens with the Yukon game.

1064
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1065
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: I like it. So I'm in on Buffalo once again.

1066
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 2: I'm in on Pete Lombo. They hit the portal well enough,

1067
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: and if Takwan Roberson is at least decent, that puts

1068
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 2: them ahead of most of the teams in the MAC.

1069
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I noticed when I read

1070
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: through on Buffalo, it seems like they have fewer defensive

1071
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: question marks.

1072
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, led by the defense, another team led by its defense.

1073
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: They have a good size up front, which tends to

1074
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: I think translate pretty well in the MAC and oftentimes

1075
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: when we're talking about MAC teams. I know this was

1076
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: the case last year, a lot of half teams half teams.

1077
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: This isn't to say there aren't questions on offense. I

1078
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: think there are questions about all these teams, but I

1079
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: would much rather come down on the side of having

1080
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: a good defense. Oh yeah, I don't hate Buffalo at all,

1081
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: and you're I think inkling to like them. I think

1082
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: they're physical on offense. I think there's a lot of

1083
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,479
Speaker 1: upside on offense. So I'm with you on that front.

1084
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: It is hard to know, to be fair to all

1085
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 2: of this, what win totals mean when so many of

1086
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: these teams, I mean, this has been the trend recently,

1087
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: are deficient on offense. And you're talking about like, yeah,

1088
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 2: they won five in a row to finish the year,

1089
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: but also that was the number one twenty seven, one

1090
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: oh six, one to eleven, one thirty three, and then

1091
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: they beat Liberty in the Bowl game. But Liberty was

1092
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 2: going through a lot of personnel changes themselves, So you're

1093
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 2: just like, what does it mean to win nine or

1094
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 2: ten games in the MAC when there are so many

1095
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: such dramatic half teams. So really, if your starting point

1096
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: is a good coaching Pete Lombo, a promising ish quarterback

1097
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: to Kwan Roberson, a good defense to start things out,

1098
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: and honestly a pretty advantageous schedule, I don't know if

1099
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo is winning. I'm just really high on this Buffalo team.

1100
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: So you're saying, what a heat on buff They've got

1101
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: heat for me? What about So how does Buffalo? I

1102
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: know you mentioned Toledo before. Yeah, in your mind as

1103
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 2: you're looking through Toledo, Buffalo, Miami, the Real Miami, the

1104
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 2: real Miami here and the Ohio Bobcats. Of those four teams,

1105
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 2: do you have a preference because a lot of places

1106
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: are in on Toledo or Barflow.

1107
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of steam on Buffalo as well.

1108
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's sort of on the margins because

1109
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: a lot of these teams, you know, those top four,

1110
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 2: top five teams play each other, and especially near the

1111
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: end of the season. I believe Toledo's at Miami later

1112
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: on in the year, and that's the sort of range

1113
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: of games once they get to November. This is true

1114
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: for everybody in the MAC. If you look at the

1115
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 2: MAC schedule week ten or whatever, in November is like

1116
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: November fourth through November eighth, because that's when the MAXI starts, right,

1117
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 2: So then calendars become so wonky for these teams, and

1118
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: then you see the results that sort of mirror that

1119
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: that wonkiness that. So I like Toledo's roster better than

1120
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: I like anybody else's roster, So I'm probably gonna give

1121
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: the edge to Toledo. They don't play each other during

1122
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: the year. Toledo and Buffalo, Ohio's schedule at the end

1123
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: is pretty great. So they're on the road. So starting

1124
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: October twenty fifth, y're on the road at Eastern Michigan,

1125
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: who I think is okay. I think the job Chris

1126
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: Creighton has done was has been incredible given the depths

1127
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: of this program to keep this program like five hundred ish.

1128
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: Noah Kim is now competing for the starting quarterback job

1129
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: at Eastern Michigan, his third stop, so back to the

1130
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: state of Michigan. Yeah, but again, this is just another

1131
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: team that has a lot of deficiencies, especially on offense,

1132
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 2: and it's the defense for Eastern Michigan isn't that far ahead.

1133
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: But the good thing about Eastern Michigan is Chris Crane's like,

1134
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 2: screw it, we need to win games, Let's take chances,

1135
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Let's do everything we can all of the time to

1136
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 2: eke out a little bit of an advantage. And so

1137
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: he's sort of the anti Chuck Martin in that way.

1138
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: I probably if we're looking at this conference as a

1139
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 2: conference that has immense turnover basically everywhere, so then continuity

1140
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 2: becomes a secret sauce, and I think I like Miami

1141
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more.

1142
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Now.

1143
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: Miami's schedule at the end is brutalful, but in terms

1144
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: of continuity, in terms of upside it quarterback. If you're saying,

1145
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: if I'm going to say over the course of all

1146
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: these years that quarterback and defense is my elixir ta

1147
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 2: Kwan Finn and Miami's defense, I feel like it is

1148
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: a really good elixir. That said, Miami ends the air

1149
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 2: at Ohio, Toledo at Buffalo before getting ball State. So

1150
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: it's just a really tough November. So to answer your question,

1151
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: I like Buffalo, and I like Toledo, and I like

1152
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: Miami in what order. I'm going to say Buffalo on

1153
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: top I just think God, schedule wise, there are just

1154
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: more wins.

1155
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: This is a conference mind you, that at least for

1156
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: some portion of the end of last season we thought

1157
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: could have a six way tie. Correct, So there's not

1158
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot of disparity as we're talking about some

1159
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: of these teams at the top. And frankly, who knows

1160
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: with like a team Northern Illinois, who knows what we're

1161
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: going to get out of Bowling Green with a new

1162
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: coach Ed George he mentioned. My hunch is that as

1163
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: we get into November, we're going to see more of

1164
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: that clustering and it will make for an interesting conversation

1165
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: around the back.

1166
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 2: So here's another interesting thing, just more broadly speaking nationally

1167
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: about the MAC. It seems every year one of the

1168
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: quality teams either puts the fear of death into a

1169
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 2: Power Conference team or just full on beats them and

1170
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: leaves Matt Campbell beside himself. Ohio has Rutgers on the

1171
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: road in week one, Toledo has Kentucky on the road

1172
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: in week one, Miami, Ohio, excuse me, Miami has Wisconsin

1173
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: week one, Buffalo has Minnesota week one, and I mean

1174
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: Ball State has Purdue. But there's a little bit of

1175
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 2: intrigue in all of those matchups, because all those Power

1176
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: Conference teams have a ton of questions and could be

1177
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: looking past their MAC opponents Week one. I'm just saying

1178
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: one of them is going to put a lot of

1179
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 2: fear into a fan base in late August.

1180
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: That's a good call. That's a really good shout. Yeah.

1181
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: So otherwise, just sort of meaty middle within the MAC.

1182
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 2: Like Central Michigan has a new coach comes over from

1183
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: Army was briefly their offensive coordinator than their offensive line

1184
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: coach and Mike Drinkle, and he's going to be looking

1185
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 2: to fully revitalize this offense, which has struggled. We'll see

1186
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: Western Michigan has had the offense, but has at times

1187
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: had a catastrophically bad defense Under Lance Taylor. We'll see

1188
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: there's no reason at this juncture to fully believe in

1189
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: Western Michigan. But somebody's gonna come out of this. Bowling

1190
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 2: Green I mentioned a little bit. Bowling Green is my

1191
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: wild card team, just because they're the team that have

1192
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: brought in so many defensive transfers. Thank you. I don't

1193
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 2: know what Drew Pine is in twenty twenty five.

1194
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: I know what Drew Pine was in twenty twenty three.

1195
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, a guy who could beat Clemson. I think

1196
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: he's fine. They lost one of the best playmakers in

1197
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: college football in Harold Fannon. We loved Harold fannin and

1198
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: he lit up. I think what Penn State and Texas

1199
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: A and m early on last year, they don't have

1200
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 2: somebody like that. But there is the like Eddie George

1201
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 2: gets his first real shot now as an FBS coach.

1202
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: I don't know there's something likable about Bowling Green right now,

1203
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 2: just because they were down so far and Scott Leffler

1204
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: dragged them to become an interesting program, like they were

1205
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: competitive with Penn State for a half. There's just enough there.

1206
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 2: And they get America's team to open up the season

1207
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 2: in the Lafat Leopards, so there's that. Their road schedule

1208
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: is difficult. There's Cincinnati on the road, Louisville on the road,

1209
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 2: Ohio on the road, they have Eastern Michigan on the road.

1210
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 2: Like it's not amazing, but I think Eddie George could

1211
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: be of a decent quality for Bowling Green.

1212
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: Eddie looks like he could still play, by the way.

1213
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,040
Speaker 2: He absolutely looks terrific.

1214
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's got any eligibility left, but

1215
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: they could use him.

1216
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Otherwise, like I talked about, the teams that are

1217
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: just going to they're just trying to survive. They're just

1218
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 2: trying to survive this season, whether it's akron UMass Ball State,

1219
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 2: I think is going to be pretty down this year

1220
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 2: once again they make their coaching change. So I don't know.

1221
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 2: I think that's where we are. I think there's three

1222
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: or four teams that have the ability to go bowling

1223
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 2: in that middle if they're able to regroup after tough septembers.

1224
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 2: There's three or four teams that are gonna eat each

1225
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: other alive at the top. And I sort of hemmed

1226
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 2: in hot about who I actually like the best. I

1227
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: think it's still Buffalo because I think the combination of

1228
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: coaching and schedule is meaningful. I'm gonna go Buffalo and

1229
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 2: then Toledo and then Miami and then Ohio, Ohio, just

1230
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: because it's a year one coach dealing with a lot

1231
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 2: of changes, even with quarterback back. So I'm gonna go

1232
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 2: Toledo and Buffalo, and I still I think give the

1233
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 2: edge to Buffalo in this moment, pending what they get

1234
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 2: out of quarterback.

1235
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: I like it. Okay, we got one conference left, Okay.

1236
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: I will try not to drone on the way I

1237
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: did with the sun Belt. When I tell the American,

1238
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 1: you were intrigued by the sun Belt, the sun Belt,

1239
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: intrigued by the sun Belt, the American. Let's talk about

1240
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: the American. I think bigger picture, we're going to keep

1241
01:04:56,800 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: having this debate now, especially in the playoff ero out

1242
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: which conference is strongest. I think the American is strongest

1243
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: at the top. I won't speak to the whole conference

1244
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: and averages. And look, there are a lot of bad

1245
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: teams in the American as well, he says, there are

1246
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: the sun Belt, as are the MAC But at the top,

1247
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: you've got a cluster of I'm going to say five

1248
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: teams that could realistically make a case as a contender.

1249
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: They also, all of these teams are dealing with this

1250
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 1: push pull of the transfer portal. Like Tulane, one of

1251
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: the top tier G five programs, really took it on

1252
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: the chin in the TRAA.

1253
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, took it on the chin.

1254
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 1: They lost. They lost those two guys, they lost six

1255
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: others who were starters. Most programs here are in the

1256
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: same boat where they're losing their best players year in

1257
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: and year out power conferences. Then there's this power vacuum,

1258
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 1: which weirdly opens up the door for underdogs to like

1259
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: swoop in and try to build their own transfer class

1260
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: and maybe make a run at the conference. So it's

1261
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: it's bad, but it's also good again for the aforementioned

1262
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: hipster G five fans out there.

1263
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 2: Who have no idea what to think of any of

1264
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 2: these teams. Yeah, no, but it's it's it does make

1265
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: it fun.

1266
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: To root for some of these conferences. It really really does.

1267
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: Here here's how you could look at it from a

1268
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: heat perspective, from a hotness perspective. Tie, because I was

1269
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 2: thinking about this a lot with the MAC as well.

1270
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt you, no please, This feels like a

1271
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 2: nice place to fit this thought in. People talk about

1272
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 2: the end of college football as we know it, and

1273
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: how are these smaller conferences going to compete when you know,

1274
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: the bigger conference are scooping up the biggest programs from

1275
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: wherever the Mountain West or the American and NIL has

1276
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 2: rendered it and the portal has rendered all of these

1277
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 2: situations to be so on basically borderline untenable that it

1278
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 2: basically feels like a meteor is coming for the American,

1279
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 2: for the Sun Belt, for the mac for the Mount

1280
01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: West whatever. If you think about it, though, if we

1281
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: found out that a catastrophic life ending meteor were coming

1282
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: to Earth, you have one of two choices here. You

1283
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 2: can freak out and hide and just dread everything, or

1284
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 2: you can find your nearest bottle of whatever and start

1285
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 2: getting weird with the people you love the most. Right. Yeah,

1286
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, if you love these conference is

1287
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 2: the most, it's about to get weird.

1288
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: It's about to get really weird.

1289
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: It's about to get weird.

1290
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna get It's gonna get it continue being weird.

1291
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: The thought that kept coming to mind as I was

1292
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: looking in particular through the American is there is probably

1293
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to be had and headlines to

1294
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: be made. Is somebody just decides to go full moneyball. Yeah,

1295
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: full moneyball with this thing. Just moneyball the crap out

1296
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: of the portal, Build a beast scouting department, build a

1297
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: conference champ on the fly, exclusively out of the portal

1298
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: because you're better than your opponents at scouting.

1299
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's out there. Your scouting department in

1300
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: classes and books. Yeah, and lookite a problem. The American's interesting.

1301
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: The American has been a good conference for a long time.

1302
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: No offense to the beloved service academies.

1303
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: But when Army and Navy make up two of the

1304
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: three best defenses in your conference, you might not be

1305
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,960
Speaker 1: a very good defensive conference. Right right now, Army only

1306
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,879
Speaker 1: Army projects as the top fifty defense in this conference.

1307
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of offense. They're not gonna

1308
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: play a whole lot of defense. Let's get used to it.

1309
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: Let's get used to it. By the way, this is

1310
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: the second straight year where I was hoping for a

1311
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: scheduling quirk where somebody would play both Army and Navy

1312
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 1: on back to back weeks. That has not happened again for.

1313
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: The soup straight year.

1314
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: We got a couple teams North Texas, Temple, Tulsa, and

1315
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: UAB that play them both, but none of them play

1316
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: them on consecutive weeks. Sooner or later it's gonna happen.

1317
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna suck for whoever it has to be. But

1318
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: here is where I am at. All right, everybody's gonna

1319
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 1: be talking up tu Lane. I want to talk up Usa.

1320
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: USF is my team.

1321
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: You're falling for it like I did last year.

1322
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: So like the fifth straight year, USF is my team,

1323
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 1: and I'm referring to them as my October surprise. And

1324
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: here's why. Okay, USF comically starts at season. Here are

1325
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: the first three weeks home against Boise State, on the road,

1326
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 1: against Florida on the road at Miami of Florida. Okay,

1327
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: then they played like South Carolina State or somebody. There's

1328
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance they're going to start one to three.

1329
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: But this is a good team. There's a lot back,

1330
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: a ton of returning production, like eleventh nationally, eight starters

1331
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 1: back on both sides of the ball. Offy factor in

1332
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: the transfers Byron Brown, I believe should be back in healthy.

1333
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: He didn't play in the spring game because he had

1334
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: like a hamstring thing, but he snapped his leg five

1335
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: games into the year last year, and from that point

1336
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: forward they were just Alex Golish was just trying to

1337
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: figure it out well.

1338
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 2: He was also like refusing to talk about his status,

1339
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: and people had no idea near the end of the

1340
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: year what his actual status was. Playing very cooy it was.

1341
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: It was a whole thing, But I believe he's back.

1342
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: They've got an experience line, they've got a good receiver room.

1343
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: Defense has a lot back. I'd like for the defense

1344
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more consistent, but they're going

1345
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: to play quick. They're going to run a million plays.

1346
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm asking the rebollerhood to live dangerously with me and

1347
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: PICKINGSF to win the MAC or excuse me, the American.

1348
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: We already talked about. They could win the MAC, but

1349
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: I think they also could win the American. I am

1350
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: aggressively going over six and a half for USM. I

1351
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: fully I pushed all the chips, all the chips in

1352
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: the middle for USF. I say October surprise because I

1353
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: think September is going to suck. But in October, people

1354
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: are going to start realizing that, hey, USF's actually a

1355
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 1: pretty good team.

1356
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1357
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 1: So caught the bad break last season with Byron Brown

1358
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: going down a couple of games in but even still

1359
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 1: went six and six, went a bowl game in one man.

1360
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: They beat some awful teams though.

1361
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: They did, but they they won the bowl game. I

1362
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: think they played against San Jose State in that five

1363
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: overtime they did. That was a really fun game, A

1364
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,839
Speaker 1: fun game. It was a fun game. I'm in on USF.

1365
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,560
Speaker 1: I'm really in on USF this year. Okay, I'm in

1366
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: on Twu Lane as much as anybody's in on Tulane.

1367
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 1: You know, they deserve to be in the top tier

1368
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: nine to five. Last year, they lost to k State

1369
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: and Oklahoma early. Then they went out with a whimper,

1370
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: losing three in a row. It's probably still the best

1371
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: team in the conference. There's probably still a very good

1372
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: shot of them going eleven and one and winning the

1373
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: thing and grabbing a playoff spot. Ultimately, if you are

1374
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: looking at Tulane, here is what is going to be

1375
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: the determining factor for their season. It's the middle of

1376
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: September and then a four week stretch between middle of

1377
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,799
Speaker 1: October and early November. If you want to make the playoff,

1378
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: if you're too Lane, you got to win the Darian

1379
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: Mensa Bowl, which is going to happen third week of

1380
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: September when Duke comes to town, and then they've got

1381
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: a road game against Old Miss the following week. You

1382
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: gotta beat Duke. You got to be competitive against Ole Miss.

1383
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: It's that simple. And then later in the year there

1384
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: is a stretch Army a bye week at UTSA at Memphis.

1385
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 1: Those three games I think pretty much defined the whole

1386
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: season in the American for two Lane.

1387
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:27,759
Speaker 2: I agree.

1388
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 1: I think they're worse on offense. I think they're better

1389
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: on defense. I think last year's team had more higher

1390
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 1: end talent. This year's team maybe a little bit more depth.

1391
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: That may be Phil Steele's creative way of saying that

1392
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: they're worse, but he still has optimism for TWU Lane.

1393
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: They were really aggressive in the transfer portal. If they

1394
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: do take a step back on offense, it's not really

1395
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: their fault because they did lose Darien Mensa. Oregon did

1396
01:12:55,479 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: steal Mackay Hughes steal. They stole him, appealing place to

1397
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people time. So their quarterback, I think

1398
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: is Brandon Solivan from Iowa. I just think it's going

1399
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: to look different on offense because the quarterbacks aren't as good.

1400
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: The personnel is different. They're going to need to rely

1401
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: more on the running game and less on Darian Mansa

1402
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: just creating a play in bombing it deep, that type

1403
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 1: of thing. So I do think there's a chance that

1404
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: some of the previews I saw are overvaluing to Lane.

1405
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 1: I also think a good number of them may be

1406
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: undervaluing to Lane's defense. Sort of a double sided coin there.

1407
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I think it's a really good

1408
01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: front seven. I think they're going to pose a problem

1409
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: for most of the teams in this conference their thinnick corner.

1410
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: It's problem if they get injuries and that sort of thing.

1411
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: But their win total is eight and a half. I

1412
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: understand the logic. I just think they're nine and three

1413
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: zero worse. This is a good team, Don't get me wrong.

1414
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: I just kind of like USF a little bit more.

1415
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, I think I like USF fine, depending on

1416
01:13:56,040 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: their offensive health. Once they get to the American they

1417
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 2: open what is Boise State, Florida and Miami brutal USF

1418
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: op It's brutal.

1419
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: It's brutal. So they're gonna go one to three in September,

1420
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna go one to three. They're gonna hit a

1421
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: bye week before they get into October. And I can

1422
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: tell you college football fans who don't really pay attention

1423
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: to the American are gonna look at USF and they're

1424
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,760
Speaker 1: gonna say, O, they're one of three, But yeah, who cares?

1425
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: After that? Though? After that after we get into October.

1426
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: This is when the October surprise occurs. Yeah, this is

1427
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: when they start winning. It's like, okay, everybody's sleeping on

1428
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: USF because they forgot about him. They had a bad

1429
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 1: record to start the season. Well, maybe the context here

1430
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 1: is important, and I think this is when they make

1431
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: their move. But Byron Brown's got to be healthy.

1432
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: That's Boise Week one though, and it's at home, correct, correct?

1433
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 2: So Boise is traveling across the country to play in Tampa,

1434
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: Florida in late August with no Ashton Gent, no Ashton Gent,

1435
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: Boise State is definitively better, but situationally getting week one,

1436
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: that's interesting. It's Georgia. It was Georgia Southern last year,

1437
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 2: right that scored a bunch of points in a shootout

1438
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: against Boise's defense. Yep, because it was in Georgia.

1439
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 1: Okay, And I mean, look, they're gonna play an up tempo,

1440
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: fun version of an offense. If Miami and Corey Heatherman

1441
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,440
Speaker 1: can't get their defense sorted.

1442
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: Out, Miami will be fine. But yeah, you want to

1443
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: talk about.

1444
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: These games where they put the fear of God into somebody.

1445
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: I know, I Hearriett.

1446
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: It could be could be one of those situations you have.

1447
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: To did two years ago with Obama.

1448
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure they're winning any of those three

1449
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 1: games that we mentioned, but it's of note talking about

1450
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 1: the Service academies real quick. I like them both. Bryson

1451
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: Dally is gone from Army, which sucks. That's an enormous void.

1452
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how they fill it. One of the

1453
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: reasons why they were so successful last year is because

1454
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 1: they tweaked the offense to fit more of his game.

1455
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna need to do that again. All right,

1456
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: new quarterback. I think it's Dwayne Coleman. I think that's

1457
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the dude. They also lose their running back,

1458
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: Kanye Udo. They're gonna need to make some modifications here.

1459
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: They really are. I don't know what the offense looks like.

1460
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we know what the offense looks like. I

1461
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 1: just don't know how effective it's going to be.

1462
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: He ended up in Arizona State, by the way, Kanye Judo,

1463
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: I believe so for the ultimate change, going ultimate change

1464
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: talk about a culturoinst tempe cultural change.

1465
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 1: The defense, though, for Army, as I mentioned earlier, is

1466
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: what gives them the high floor opponents because of the

1467
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: way they play offense only get the ball about nine times.

1468
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: So if you've got a competent defense, that's you know,

1469
01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: that's starting you out in a pretty good spot. If

1470
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 1: your defense is above average, which Army certainly is, you're

1471
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,280
Speaker 1: going to be a conference contender. And I think that's

1472
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: the case again here there're season. They've got three road

1473
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: games that are going to define everything at Case State

1474
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: Week two at two Lane, middle of October at UTSA

1475
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 1: on Black Friday. I'm not counting the Army Navy game.

1476
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: By the way, they need to move Army Navy to

1477
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: Week zero, especially now with them being in the same conference.

1478
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: I now like the scheduling is just weird, especially if

1479
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: they end up having to play in a title game

1480
01:16:58,520 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 1: or something.

1481
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 2: Which they won.

1482
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: They on the confinals last year. I know, just play

1483
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 1: at week zero. I get that as breaking a tradition,

1484
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: but it's going to be a fun way to start

1485
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: out the year. Move it, move on with our lives.

1486
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 2: I hear you.

1487
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: I like Army. I like them more on defense than

1488
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 1: I do on offense because they have more questions about

1489
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: their offense.

1490
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 2: And then Navy.

1491
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: The first thing that jumps out to me about Navy,

1492
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,720
Speaker 1: which went ten to three last season beat Oklahoma in

1493
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 1: a bowl game. They have a very favorable schedule. Horvath

1494
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: is back right, as is most of the backfield, So

1495
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: we could probably stop the preview right there if we

1496
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 1: want it, because I think the offense is going to

1497
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: harm I think the line is, you know, dealing with

1498
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 1: some turnover. But Navy's been good at plugging in guys,

1499
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 1: even when they don't know who those guys are going

1500
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: to be. They've been very good at just plugging and

1501
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: playing along that line. But the schedule is why you

1502
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: like Navy. They got the game against Notre Dame, but

1503
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,559
Speaker 1: they have Army later in the year. You know, who

1504
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: knows if it's going to matter at that point. They

1505
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: miss Tulane, they miss UTSA, they miss USF, and they

1506
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: get Memphis on the road late in the year, which

1507
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: is going to be a tough spot a week before

1508
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: I guess a game before that Army spot to close

1509
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: out the year. But like Navy going nine and three

1510
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: and hitting their eight and a half over feels really

1511
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: good to me. That feels like a good bet. I

1512
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 1: don't know if they're going to be able to stop

1513
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: the pass. I kind of think they won't again, but

1514
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: they might be a little bit better at it. It

1515
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,759
Speaker 1: is a defense as a whole that returns a fair amount.

1516
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: So if you start talking about a team that's just

1517
01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: marginally better, they do have a NFL caliber lineman Landon

1518
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 1: Robinson their nose guard. I think maybe the defense in

1519
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: the front seven can improve. It's just the secondary again.

1520
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 1: For me, you couldn't stop the pass last year either, right,

1521
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: So I like the Service Academies. I think they're going

1522
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: to be a player with respect to the conference. But

1523
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: I like those other two teams more.

1524
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,839
Speaker 2: I kind of like the Service academies in the American

1525
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 2: by the way, I kind of like that they're getting

1526
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: regularler you know, maybe potential budding rivalry games. I like

1527
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: seeing them when they're of quality playing in conference championship games.

1528
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 2: I like it. I think it's fun to have a

1529
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: more regular Service Academy schools in our lives as college

1530
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 2: fob efense instead of just like jumping around and playing

1531
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 2: Notre Dame in San Jose State and Arizona State.

1532
01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: Like, I like this, I really like you TSA. Yeah, okay,

1533
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you what I don't like everything about

1534
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: their defense.

1535
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: Okay, fine, they got.

1536
01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 1: Some interesting linebacker transfers from like Alabama and TCU. I

1537
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: don't know if they got a pass rush. I think

1538
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: the secondary is going to be a problem. Even though

1539
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: they got some like interesting linebackers, they don't really have

1540
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: any depth or experience there. I don't like that at all.

1541
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,640
Speaker 2: But I like so what's interesting about them that they

1542
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 2: happen to be like third string dudes at bigger schools.

1543
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 3: No.

1544
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 2: I like their offense, No, I know, but I'm saying

1545
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:51,800
Speaker 2: with the linebackers.

1546
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got a guy from Alabama and TCU. Yeah,

1547
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: that's why. Okay, eighty two percent of their production is

1548
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,879
Speaker 1: back on offense though as is as are nine starters,

1549
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 1: so ohen McCown's back. They're loaded out wide, the line

1550
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 1: is solid, it's deep. They're gonna score like thirty five

1551
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: points a game. I also really like Jeff Trailer. He's

1552
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 1: going to be in his sixth season at UTSA. Despite

1553
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: starting three and five last season, they ended up going

1554
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: to a Bowl. They finished seven and six, so having

1555
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 1: him gives them stability. He's a great coach. Put a

1556
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: lot of emphasis in the offseason. I saw an interview

1557
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 1: where he talked or somebody talked about little things, right,

1558
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: they were poorly coached in some key moments. They're trying

1559
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: to get accountability and discipline. You know, all these tropes

1560
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: that we hear in the preseason. The TLDR is that

1561
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: UTSA is going to be a hell of a half

1562
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: team this year. They're going to play in a lot

1563
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: of shootouts and it's a really fun schedule to play

1564
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 1: as a half team. Hit me at Texas A and

1565
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 1: M Week one, who the hell knows, Great, it's going

1566
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 1: to be a good offense home against Texas State and

1567
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: that rivalry. Week two, two teams that are going to

1568
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 1: play shootouts home against Tulane end of October. They're at

1569
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: USF the following week, and then they're home against Army

1570
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: to close out the year. So I'm including UTSA and

1571
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: my contender Tire because I think the offense is so

1572
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 1: good that it's going to put them in that prime position.

1573
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 1: I think for my money that UTSA is the new

1574
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 1: Memphis this year. Okay, they are the new Memphis.

1575
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: Late in the year, you're like, are they eight and

1576
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: one with some just like the lost A and M.

1577
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 1: Okay, don't play any defense, but they're dynamite on offense.

1578
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: They're the new Memphis. Okay, I'm out, by the way

1579
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: on Memphis. Okay, I'm totally out on Memphis side. Note, Yeah,

1580
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: totally out Phil Steele. I think he had them first.

1581
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 1: A bunch of people had Memphis first. People are really

1582
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,400
Speaker 1: high in Memphis this year. Nearly everybody has them as

1583
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: a contender, which I get the logic. Everybody is just

1584
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 1: panning the fact dan that they lost Seth Hennigan, who

1585
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: was there for four years, was a crazy productive quarterback.

1586
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 1: They lost a thirteen hundred yard running back on top

1587
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: of that, and their top five receivers. That feels like

1588
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot for a program.

1589
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 2: Doesn't it a lot? Yep?

1590
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: Like they've almost exclusively fielded half teams over the years,

1591
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: so the offense has to work in order for this

1592
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 1: team to be any good. When you lose all of

1593
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: your offense, why is everybody just assuming, Oh, I it'll

1594
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 1: work again, that'll be great, It'll be fine. Oh, by

1595
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 1: the way, the quarterback that everybody's talking up this year,

1596
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: Brendan Lewis, remember him, of course, Colorado, Colorado and Nevada.

1597
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to be the guy.

1598
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:39,759
Speaker 1: No, I'm out, Okay, I'm out there's a step back coming.

1599
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: No offense to Brendan Lewis, no offense to Memphis program

1600
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: that's been pretty good over the years, but.

1601
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 2: Down here regression year.

1602
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: That not a down year, it's an eight and four year.

1603
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: Oh okay, down here for them.

1604
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: It's a good schedule. Yeah, and one game that you

1605
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: know you should note here if we're pulling out our point.

1606
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily pointing at any flaws. I'm pointing right

1607
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: now at perfection.

1608
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: This is perfection. They get Arkansas coming to town a

1609
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: week before Arkansas goes back home to play Notre Dame.

1610
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 2: And oh the look ahead action.

1611
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 1: If you have read up anything on Arkansas this year,

1612
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: we had some people send this into us. People in

1613
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: Fayeteville are already talking up that Notre Dame game. That

1614
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame game is going to be very much on

1615
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: the radar for the Arkansas faithful and the team. So

1616
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: I would not be at all surprised if they go

1617
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: to Memphis a week before and it's like, hmm, this

1618
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 1: is a team that still could play offense, might not

1619
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: be as good at it to facto Super Bowl tie. Yeah, yeah, man,

1620
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: that's what I'm talking about when.

1621
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: The SEC team coming to town.

1622
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: Okay, those are like my main points of intrigue in

1623
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:52,640
Speaker 1: the American those five teams, Tulane, usf Army, Navy, and

1624
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: UTSA at Memphis. I guess I I put Memphis in

1625
01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,640
Speaker 1: my wishful thinking tier, okay, because I'm just not buying it.

1626
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: The other team that's in my wishful thinking tier is

1627
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: North Texas. North Texas another one of these teams that

1628
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: you know historically has been a half team. They're interesting

1629
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 1: to me this year just on a very personal level

1630
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: because they have two quarterbacks with four syllable last names. Okay, Okay,

1631
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: nobody else cares about that type of thing. That's the

1632
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: type of thing that I care about. But this is

1633
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: a program that enters what I think is a really

1634
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: important third year for Eric Morris, their coach. They need

1635
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: to show some significant progress here. They need to address

1636
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: some of their defensive struggles. Defense has just been such

1637
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: a problem. They're going to be good on offense. I

1638
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 1: think there's a high ceiling on offense. They run that

1639
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: air raid. It's going to continue to be the case.

1640
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 1: Drew Mesta Maker, Reese Poffenbarger, those are your.

1641
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeahs, all right, Reese Poffenbarger, O to you to

1642
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: all Albany to Miami to North Texas.

1643
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 1: Okay, they're there, defensive front turned over guys. Their secondary

1644
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: is rebuilding. They've just not been able to demonstrate that

1645
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: they can get to, you know, whatever that next level

1646
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 1: is considered. So he's he's got to do it this year.

1647
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 1: Otherwise I think there could be some changes. Okay, interested

1648
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: in that on the North Texas side. And then we're

1649
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: talking about a bunch of programs that I lumped together

1650
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: into just, you know, a whatever tier. I don't know

1651
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 1: what to make of E C U. We've got a

1652
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: handful of programs that I put in my new coach

1653
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: thank you, next tier Temple, FAU, Charlotte, Rice and Tulsa.

1654
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 1: And then we've got U a B, which I put

1655
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: in my should hire a new coach tier.

1656
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 2: Yes.

1657
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: Agree, I don't know how much detail you want me

1658
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 1: to go into with any of these programs. We're ready

1659
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: run whatever whatever. Your most pressing thoughts are, like, I'm

1660
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in Temple and Casey Keeler. If I'm

1661
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: just talking about new coaches entering into situations, I don't

1662
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: think any of these teams are gonna be very good,

1663
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: by the way, So for me to sit here and

1664
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 1: talk about like two deeps and stuff like that, which

1665
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 1: I could do and I have on my note sheet,

1666
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that because that's beside the point.

1667
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: Casey Keeler is interesting because he's got roots in this

1668
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: part of the country. He's an old school guy. He's

1669
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: been trumpeting this Temple tough culture thing which he's trying

1670
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:28,799
Speaker 1: to get guys.

1671
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 2: To buy into Delaware. To Sam Houston, Yep, yep, yep.

1672
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 1: So he's he's like all in, Okay, he's all in

1673
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:37,679
Speaker 1: on this part of the country. He's trying to build

1674
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: this toughness in this culture and that sort of thing.

1675
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. I don't think Temple is going

1676
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 1: to be very good. Zach Kittley at FAU is interesting

1677
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 1: to me, Yeah, if only because we know that there

1678
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: is a track record there for him coaching up offense. Also,

1679
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 1: I think he's been able to flip the roster in

1680
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: his first year and bring in a bunch of transfers.

1681
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:04,559
Speaker 1: There has definitely been some magnetism with this guy coming

1682
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: over from his previous stops. Knowing what he did on

1683
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: offense to FAU, so I think he's going to be

1684
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: able to get that offense in a really interesting spot

1685
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: pretty quickly. He was able to bring over Caden Veldtcamp,

1686
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,160
Speaker 1: the quarterback that he helped recruit to Western Kentucky. So

1687
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: if nothing more, you bring a guy like that in,

1688
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: you should be fairly competent at quarterback. He knows the

1689
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: system because there's familiarity there already with Zach Kitley. I

1690
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: think the quarterback position could be fun. I think there'll

1691
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: be an interesting receiver hook up between him and Easton

1692
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: Messer also, who comes over from Western Kentucky. That'll be

1693
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: fun if you're an FAU fan. Otherwise, though, it's like

1694
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: a defensive rebuild. There's not a lot of experience, there's

1695
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: not a lot of depth. Turn it over a bunch

1696
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: of running backs like it's outside a Messer. I don't

1697
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: know what to expect that wide receiver. So it's going

1698
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: to be the type of thing that takes a while

1699
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: at FAU. But they're of interest to me because of that. Sure,

1700
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, Charlotte tim Albin, it's like brand new situation. Again.

1701
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 2: Brought a bunch of dudes. Did brought a.

1702
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: Bunch of dudes. There's a huge roster transformation that's taking place.

1703
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: I think it's important to set expectations that this could

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01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 1: be a four or five win team reaching a bowl game.

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 2: Charlotte's been a tough job. It seems like it's a

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01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 2: better job than it's been. But like you know, Will

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01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Heley and Biff Poge like just couldn't get it.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, yeah, this is getting to a bowl

1709
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: is in my view and your impossibility, I just don't

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01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: see it. If they do it, it'd be a huge

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: dub for Tim Albin in year one. I think they'll

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01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 1: be solid running the ball. They've got some decent options

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01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: at quarterback, but like it's just going to take a while. Man,

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01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 1: it's going to take a while for any of this

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01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:56,680
Speaker 1: to take effect. ECU I don't know. I just I

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01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 1: don't know they could make a bowl. I'm interested in ECU.

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01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 1: I think there's some momentum at ECU. Katon Hauser for

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01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,600
Speaker 1: ECU had a good season last year. Mm hmm, so

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01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 1: that could be interesting. I like their receivers. I just

1720
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,599
Speaker 1: don't know about the defense. Again, it's been a big

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: overhaul in defense.

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01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: They finished the air well last year they did. They

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01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 2: ended up beating NC State with a bunch of fighting

1724
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 2: in the bowl game, that's right, But it was a

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01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 2: strong end to the air. It was a slow start,

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01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,719
Speaker 2: but they finished impressively if memory serves now. The teams

1727
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 2: they played weren't great. Temple Fau Tulsa's the other team

1728
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 2: you haven't mention in North Texas was a five hundred team.

1729
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 2: They lose to Navy, but like win the winnable games,

1730
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 2: and that's what ECU did.

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01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: All of these teams that I'm talking about here towards

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01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: the end and frankly in the beginning. Yeah, everybody's got

1733
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:58,840
Speaker 1: defensive questions. Dan Tulsa's interesting because Trey Lamb. Trey Lam's

1734
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 1: got an interesting track reck. He's from Eastern Tennessee State.

1735
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: He's only thirty five years old. He's the second youngest

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01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 1: coach in FBS.

1737
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: He's like a couple of generations removed from you.

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01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 1: The youngest is Zach Kittley, who I just mentioned. He's

1739
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:17,160
Speaker 1: only thirty three. Geez, he's got a track record. So

1740
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: it's a rebuilding situation. But he went to an FCS

1741
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:26,639
Speaker 1: playoff game with Gardner Webb Eastern Tennessee like his best

1742
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 1: offenses have been really balanced, pretty explosive, so it's going

1743
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: to take time to build that up. But I don't

1744
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 1: hate the move for Tulsa and then all I me

1745
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 1: just close this thing out with Uab and Rice real quick,

1746
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,759
Speaker 1: make or break season for Trent Dilfer. Gotta do something,

1747
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Gotta do something, got to figure out a way to

1748
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,760
Speaker 1: make this work because otherwise, if they don't get better

1749
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: on defense, it's over, full stop, it's over. I don't

1750
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 1: have high expectations for this team. I think they'll play

1751
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,160
Speaker 1: offense well. I don't know what to expect on defense though.

1752
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: They just got to get that defensive things sorted out.

1753
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: The defense has been such a liability. They allow so

1754
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: many points, so many yards. It's really hard to win.

1755
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 1: Light that. And Rice as a new coach, Scott Able, Yep,

1756
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: he's going to implement a shotgun spread option attack, which

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01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: could be fun to watch.

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01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 2: They actually got a little bit going these past couple

1759
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: of years. Rice not enough under Mike Bloomgren, but they

1760
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 2: got a couple things going.

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01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 1: Quintin Jackson Taji Atkins are there running back tandem that

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01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in watching in that system in particular. Okay,

1763
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: and there are you know, there are some bright spots

1764
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: in defense. Actually the defense secondary is pretty good against

1765
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 1: the pass. Ty Morris is a fun linebacker for them

1766
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: that I think is going to be a name brand

1767
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: player in the American But it's just a transition year offensively,

1768
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,560
Speaker 1: especially on the line quarter It's a system like that

1769
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: requires that you have a quarterback that knows how to

1770
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: run it, so I might take while to figure out

1771
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,880
Speaker 1: who that is. And there's just again more turnover on

1772
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:07,799
Speaker 1: defense broadly speaking. So long story short, I'm in on USF.

1773
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: I like USF. I think I like USF over two lane.

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01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: That's my predicted order of finish in the American Okay, wow,

1775
01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: double bulls show with you going Buffalo with me going USF.

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01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 2: Yes.

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01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, Then, just to put a bow on all this thing,

1778
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to stick JMU. Stick with JMU as my

1779
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 1: team in the Sun Belt. I like it. One hour,

1780
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:35,759
Speaker 1: thirty eight minutes here on my time.

1781
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Time.

1782
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: Damn. Next episode, we're going into the Mountain West. We're

1783
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 1: going to talk about Conference USA. We'll talk about the

1784
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: PAC two packed well last.

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01:32:46,760 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: Year of the PAC two because we've got a lot

1786
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,600
Speaker 2: of Mountain West and I guess movement because of it.

1787
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:54,760
Speaker 2: But yes, there's going to be a PAC twelve, which

1788
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:57,799
Speaker 2: we'll have nowhere near twelve teams next season.

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01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have an in co ordinate number of

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01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 1: notes here that I did not get to on the

1791
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: sun Belt. I'm way too interested in the sun Belt.

1792
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:08,800
Speaker 1: I am sorry. If anybody out there is offended by

1793
01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: how much time I spent on the sun Belt.

1794
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:14,759
Speaker 2: Don't be offended. I hope I'm super interested.

1795
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I'm very interested in the sun Belt this year. Yeah,

1796
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 1: I poured my heart and soul into the sun Belt.

1797
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 1: So okay, big thanks to everybody out there for following

1798
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 1: along with this. We've got a part two coming up

1799
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: on our next episode. We would encourage you again to

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01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:30,320
Speaker 1: hit fall hit subscribes that you don't miss any of that.

1801
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 1: And of course, like I said, I'm going to go

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01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 1: into detail on one of our upcoming bonus episodes talking

1803
01:33:35,280 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: about some of these teams that I was really interested in.

1804
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 1: We'll do it maybe a little bit like we did

1805
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 1: last year where we dove in covered some more specific

1806
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 1: position groups and stuff out on Patreon on the bonus

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01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: episode for Bawlers dot Com.

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01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're interested in.

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01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 1: That, Dan, great, all right, why don't we call it

1810
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: quits on this episode? Why don't we come back strong

1811
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: on the next one. We'll talk through more of the

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01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: G five slash G six. I don't know what the

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01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: proper nomenclature is for this at this point. We will

1814
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 1: do that on our next episode. We will round things

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01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 1: out before we jive jive dive on into the acc Yes, sir,

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01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein,

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01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: for myself, Tie Hilton Brand. Thank you for barion with

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01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,679
Speaker 1: us here on the first of our conference. Previous episodes.

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01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Talk to y'all next episodes.

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Speaker 2: Stay soul, peace,