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Speaker 2: Big ten. Saturday Night, Ohio State in Oregon?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: How good is that? That'll be on NBC in Peacock.
Speaker 2: Here comes Saturday Night presented by Discover. I think the
Speaker 2: last that I looked it was Ohio State favored by three, Yes, Tod.
Speaker 4: And Todd Blackledge joins us on Friday Shameless Plug. He's
Speaker 4: calling that game with no Eagle. Okay on NBCA.
Speaker 2: How about that Ohio State and Oregon? Yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: The most important question is what uniforms will Moregon be wearing.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you bring out something new, something different?
Speaker 2: How many uniforms do they have in their catalog?
Speaker 6: Semi unlimited because year to year they bring out a
Speaker 6: couple new options, and if they went back in the well,
Speaker 6: there's got to be forty different options. Over the past
Speaker 6: fifteen years.
Speaker 2: Penn State favored by five at USC Texas favored by
Speaker 2: fourteen against Oklahoma, the Red River rivalry. Let me see
Speaker 2: if there's anything else. Old Miss favored by three and
Speaker 2: a half against LSU. I don't know if there's anything
Speaker 2: else of great importance here. Those are the ones that
Speaker 2: stood out, but Ohio State in Oregon and they are
Speaker 2: favored by three eight, seven to seven to three. DP
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Speaker 2: The legendary New York sports radio host Mike Francessa will
Speaker 2: join us. We'll talk about the Jets situation. Also at
Speaker 2: baseball last night, Yeah, the Phillies losing to the match,
Speaker 2: Mets up to one. Padres rough up the Dodgers where
Speaker 2: they hold on to win it. They had six runs
Speaker 2: in the third, they hold on to win it six
Speaker 2: to five. They're up two games to one. And then
Speaker 2: you have baseball coming up later on today. The big
Speaker 2: news yesterday the Jets firing their head coach Robert Salah.
Speaker 2: He won twenty games, lost thirty six during his run
Speaker 2: with the Jets. Here is the Jets owner Woody Johnson
Speaker 2: on why he made the head coaching change, that this.
Speaker 6: Is one of the most talented teams that has ever
Speaker 6: been assembled by the new York Jets. I wanted to
Speaker 6: give this team the most opportunity to win this season.
Speaker 1: I feel that we had to go in a.
Speaker 6: Different direction, and that's why I did that today. This change, the.
Speaker 7: Change that we made today that I made, I believe
Speaker 7: will bring new energy and.
Speaker 8: Positivity that will lead to more wins starting now.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would love to have followed up by saying,
Speaker 2: how does this bring more energy? How does this change
Speaker 2: bring more energy here? Because the issue, mister Johnson is
Speaker 2: the offense. You're going to fire the head coach, you
Speaker 2: still have that quarterback and that offensive coordinator. You have
Speaker 2: the same offense here. Unless you're bringing in DeVante Adams
Speaker 2: and you think that he is going to change the fortunes,
Speaker 2: I would be surprised at that because you're bringing in
Speaker 2: a coach. These things usually they either go really well
Speaker 2: where you rally around a coach, like we saw with
Speaker 2: the Raiders with Antonio peerser Rich Bisacia. I mean, it
Speaker 2: does happen. It's just rare when it happens. And this
Speaker 2: is New York. All eyes focusing. You're on Monday night,
Speaker 2: this Monday night against Buffalo, and then the following Sunday
Speaker 2: you're on Sunday night against the Steelers. All your flaws
Speaker 2: are going to be exposed. Aaron Rodgers is going to
Speaker 2: be on display, and everybody's going to have an opinion
Speaker 2: on Tuesday morning and then the following Sunday night on
Speaker 2: Monday morning about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. Now, maybe
Speaker 2: it goes well. Maybe they do change some things. They
Speaker 2: do have weapons. I'd still like them to establish the
Speaker 2: run a little bit. Maybe that would give Aaron a
Speaker 2: little bit more time with play action pass. Maybe they
Speaker 2: bring in Devonte Adams. But this is a team. All
Speaker 2: they have to do is be an average offense. That's it,
Speaker 2: and they can win that division. They're ranked twenty sixth
Speaker 2: right now. The defense is ranked fifth. Inexcusable. All right,
Speaker 2: pull question from hour one Seaton, and what are we
Speaker 2: going to go with an hour two hour one?
Speaker 9: We have up there more to blame for the jets struggles,
Speaker 9: the quarterback, the offensive coordinator, the head coach, or the owner.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a guess.
Speaker 9: Here, shall we?
Speaker 2: Shall we?
Speaker 9: Shall we?
Speaker 2: Todd go ahead, I'm going to say the head coach,
Speaker 2: all right, Marvin, head coach, Pauli quarterback. I'm going to
Speaker 2: say offensive coordinator.
Speaker 9: Right now, it's almost a three way tie for second.
Speaker 9: Please okay, with the offensive coordinator barely edging out the
Speaker 9: head coach and the owner. The quarterback, however, has forty
Speaker 9: seven percent.
Speaker 7: Of the vote.
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yeah is running away with that? Well, I guess
Speaker 2: it should be Aaron Rodgers because he brought in the
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator. If I'm gonna blame the OC, I gotta
Speaker 2: blame the guy who brought in the OC, and that's
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. Teams that have made the playoffs after moving
Speaker 2: on from their head coach during the season nineteen sixty one,
Speaker 2: who can forget the Houston Oilers, of course, and then
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one Vegas Raiders. John Gruden wasn't officially fired,
Speaker 2: but Rich Bassacia took over and then they went to
Speaker 2: the playoffs as an interim head coach. It can happen. Well,
Speaker 2: First of all, it's rare when you fire your coach
Speaker 2: on a potentially a good team during the regular season,
Speaker 2: because normally, if you're getting fired, your team is not
Speaker 2: very good. Therefore your odds of making the playoffs aren't
Speaker 2: very good. Any other poll questions we're considering Seaton.
Speaker 9: No counter We have several that we're considering. All right,
Speaker 9: post one over, Okay, that's fun. The NFL franchise. I
Speaker 9: have the toughest time picturing winning a super Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 9: well we could start with the Cleveland Browns. Tough to
Speaker 9: imagine them winning anything right now? Yeah, all right, this
Speaker 9: one's interesting. The Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: No, I can see it now. I feel like I
Speaker 2: could see it now too. But it's like the Padres.
Speaker 2: You can see the Padres maybe winning a World Series?
Speaker 2: Can you like the Clippers. I can't see the Clippers
Speaker 2: winning an NBA title. I just my vision won't allow it, Yes, Paul, But.
Speaker 6: The Detroit Lions history makes it odd to think about it,
Speaker 6: like right now, currently they're a favorite, one of the favorites,
Speaker 6: but sometimes a team's history makes it like I just.
Speaker 10: Can't imagine them actually doing it.
Speaker 6: The Cubs a decade ago, the Lions now, back when
Speaker 6: they were the Indians, like the Carolina Panthers right now
Speaker 6: seem awful and distant from the super Bowl, but like
Speaker 6: ten years ago they've been fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're talking about now, so I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the Lions now, and you see the Lions winning. I
Speaker 2: don't see the Clippers winning. I don't see the Saints
Speaker 2: winning a super Bowl. Panthers aren't gonna win.
Speaker 9: But historically though, there were so many years that the
Speaker 9: Lions weren't even close. But I do it's like they're
Speaker 9: too many years into being better now that now you
Speaker 9: can imagine them winning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but the Browns, the Browns have been bad.
Speaker 9: The Browns have been bad. We have the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 9: on here. Tough to imagine them. What about the Well,
Speaker 9: I don't know that anybody's fired their coach mid season
Speaker 9: then gone on to win the Super Bowl. But I
Speaker 9: can't imagine the Jets winning anything this year. What about
Speaker 9: the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 10: That's what I put in there.
Speaker 2: No, I can see them winning a super Bowl.
Speaker 7: I just.
Speaker 2: They may accidentally win a super Bowl one year.
Speaker 9: There's a lot of star power, yeah, to not be
Speaker 9: able to win.
Speaker 2: But sometimes you become a little bit more. There's more
Speaker 2: notoriety and fame because you're on a famous franchise, Like
Speaker 2: you get more credit because you're there, like the Lakers. Now,
Speaker 2: the Lakers aren't going to win a title this year,
Speaker 2: but still everything they do is going to be magnified.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys. Everything they do will be magnified. Therefore, it
Speaker 2: feels like, man, they got a chance. Because everybody's talking
Speaker 2: about the Cowboys. Cowboys still get more run than anybody
Speaker 2: any franchise, all the franchises combine, it feel like don't
Speaker 2: compare with the Cowboys. Therefore, if I'm a Cowboys fan,
Speaker 2: they're always talking about my team, it always feels like
Speaker 2: they got a chance, even when they don't. You know,
Speaker 2: these hosts playing the hits, that's why they're talking about this,
Speaker 2: That's why they talk about them. The Lakers. The Lakers
Speaker 2: will get more coverage than the Celtics will this year,
Speaker 2: and the Celtics are defending champs. Why because the Lakers
Speaker 2: get clicks. That's it. Yeah, pull pie in the face.
Speaker 6: The New York Jets franchise appear in a Super Bowl
Speaker 6: before the Dallas Cowboys franchise appear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I might not be doing the show by
Speaker 2: the time that happened. Motivations, So then we have to
Speaker 2: come back and get together and have a reunion. Yes,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that one day A one
Speaker 2: day reunion.
Speaker 10: Yeah, like those bands that get back together that you
Speaker 10: know for.
Speaker 2: A one a one night only a one pie only.
Speaker 2: Does anybody want a piece of that? The Jets get
Speaker 2: into a Super Bowl before the Dallas Cowboys, Todd.
Speaker 4: I think the Cowboys will get them before the Jets.
Speaker 9: I'm in on that, all right, Seaton, I think the
Speaker 9: Cowboys would get there first.
Speaker 2: Marvin, you want to be in there?
Speaker 5: Sure? Why not?
Speaker 2: All right? I'm going to go in there. Four paus
Speaker 2: to one for Pauline.
Speaker 10: Let's do it.
Speaker 9: So, let's say how many years do we have? How
Speaker 9: many Super Bowls do we have?
Speaker 2: Two? I'm gonna know I'm going to include that following
Speaker 2: year when I retire on Christmas Eve, Grandfather in that
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 9: Yes, so that's the twenty twenty seven seven, that's February
Speaker 9: twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Or is that twenty eight, twenty eight, twenty.
Speaker 9: Eight, February twenty twenty Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know where we're gonna be February of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight, trying to.
Speaker 5: Think Super Bowl sixty two.
Speaker 2: I believe that all right, Now, where will I be?
Speaker 2: I might be like a guest of honor at the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Maybe, I mean, who knows, Maybe the commissioner says, hey, Dan,
Speaker 2: you know what, I never came on your show. But
Speaker 2: I'm just afraid of your questions. Why didn't you come
Speaker 2: on in here and you could stay in my suite
Speaker 2: with me. We're gonna name you the Walter Peyton Man
Speaker 2: of the Year. Oh, come on, Commissioner, let's see. Where's
Speaker 2: Todd Todd in February of twenty twenty eight, hopefully.
Speaker 4: Getting sandwiches with John Elway. I'm like his personal assistant
Speaker 4: picking up his dry cleaning stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Broncos.
Speaker 4: Lt little cabin in the woods in Colorado, somewhere up
Speaker 4: John's on the phone.
Speaker 5: I gotta get his stuff.
Speaker 2: You know that movie Misery.
Speaker 6: Yes, I keep drawing Allway hostage in mind.
Speaker 2: So John Elway would be James Kahan gets in a
Speaker 2: car accident, and then you'd be Kathy Bates.
Speaker 4: You got to start treating me more nicely, mister man,
Speaker 4: mister seven, whatever you call yourself.
Speaker 9: You never got out.
Speaker 2: Of the cock of duty car.
Speaker 10: That's not bad.
Speaker 5: That is they cheated us.
Speaker 1: That's not what happened.
Speaker 2: That's better than your Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: Yeah, locked, you said they never got out of the
Speaker 9: cock of duty car. Yeah, that's not the impress. So
Speaker 9: the last Super Bowl is is at so far for
Speaker 9: this show. Oh, that would be February fourteenth, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 9: Will be at that one. Okay, the February twenty eight,
Speaker 9: twenty twenty eight, we won't be at.
Speaker 2: But where is that one? You feel like it's a
Speaker 2: Miami or something.
Speaker 9: Feels like it's a mile away.
Speaker 10: Yes, I think it's undecided.
Speaker 6: I think the last scheduled one is LA twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 10: That's what I see right now.
Speaker 2: Where's Marvin gonna be? You might be at the mother Ship.
Speaker 2: You might be doing some stuff with the Mothership.
Speaker 5: I think I'm more like an NBA like Ringer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could be like freelance. They would hire you to.
Speaker 5: Kind of do what I was doing before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe you do that seating. He might be
Speaker 2: something to do with the Men's United States Men's Socrates
Speaker 2: y fire. Yeah you say.
Speaker 9: Anything to do with soccer, I would be super pumped about.
Speaker 2: Paulie will probably be a radio producer in Chicago. Maybe
Speaker 2: I could see him going back to Chicago. About host, well,
Speaker 2: it could be host, Well, he could be he could
Speaker 2: be I don't know, just maybe he is a you know,
Speaker 2: host slash producer in Chicago or producer slash.
Speaker 10: Host wherever the slash is.
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, Marvin.
Speaker 5: And we all just come back for just one day,
Speaker 5: one day for the pie okay y studio audience.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's it's quick. We just show up,
Speaker 2: get out of our cars, smash Paulie in the face
Speaker 2: getting our cars, and we leave or vices. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's it. Then we're done, and then we'll probably
Speaker 2: never see each other again.
Speaker 10: Good run though.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we got a lot of time before that.
Speaker 9: We saw we saw each other a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah we did. Yeah. Yeah, It's like I tell Todd,
Speaker 2: how can I miss you? If you won't leave, if
Speaker 2: we have a pontoon party on your No, you will not.
Speaker 2: I would throw you over like a life jacket. I
Speaker 2: would throw you over. No, I've been your life jacket.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, I was thought it'd be fascinating to have
Speaker 6: like a clock that measured the amount of time you
Speaker 6: spent with other people on earth, because number one will
Speaker 6: clearly be your wife than your kids, but the other
Speaker 6: three not you, Marvin, just because you're newer here, the
Speaker 6: other three guys in this room.
Speaker 10: If you looked at the amount of hours spent together.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't want to do that, But the only
Speaker 6: think that would top that would be wife and.
Speaker 2: Kids could be depressed.
Speaker 9: Most people spend way more time with their coworkers than
Speaker 9: they do with their wife and sure, total time, yes, definitely.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 9: If you work like a nine to five and your
Speaker 9: kid gets home from school and then they go to
Speaker 9: bed at a decent hour, that's you're with your coworkers
Speaker 9: way more.
Speaker 6: However, most guys, most people don't stay twenty at a
Speaker 6: job like the three we've spent us.
Speaker 2: We've spent a lot of time together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and when we're not together, we're emailing and texting.
Speaker 4: You know, I am texting.
Speaker 8: All over it place.
Speaker 9: Most people don't get to make their own hours either. Yeah,
Speaker 9: we had a pretty friendly schedule. Yeah you do, Yeah,
Speaker 9: yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Patrick in Chicago, Hi Patrick, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 7: And first time, long time calling on behalf of a
Speaker 7: hopeful twenty forty two Crappensburg State applicant should be a
Speaker 7: shoeing a newborn son at six pounds twelve ounces Brooks Thomas.
Speaker 2: Duty duty duty and how do you spell that? Patrick?
Speaker 7: Uh DEAs?
Speaker 1: And dog?
Speaker 7: Oh dea isn't dog? Why? This has been on my
Speaker 7: mind for a while. I'm actually boys with Seaton kind
Speaker 7: of what's up Seaton? And uh, when you drop double
Speaker 7: duty on Rassini in hour one, I just spell her
Speaker 7: to finally make my debut, yeah, Seaton.
Speaker 9: So yeah, this is my guy, Patrick Dan. I've told
Speaker 9: you before about how anytime we make a duty joke,
Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, my buddy always texts me and it's like, dang,
Speaker 9: why are you guys killing me like that because you
Speaker 9: mentioned duty And it's often followed by uh, just roaring laughter. Okay,
Speaker 9: except for a young man in Chicago who's like, wow,
Speaker 9: that's my last name.
Speaker 2: And uh and the proud father of a newborn baby.
Speaker 2: So round of applause, congratulations Patrick, Yeah, Patrick Doody. And
Speaker 2: then we're going to come out with the the yule
Speaker 2: logs for the Crappensburg State Yule Logs and were doing
Speaker 2: that for the holidays.
Speaker 9: See yeah, sure I can think.
Speaker 2: So yeah how about that? All right, let me take
Speaker 2: a break the legendary New York sports.
Speaker 10: Why would we ever stopped this goliath of a show.
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Speaker 2: The DPS show spent a lot of time talking about
Speaker 2: the baseball, certainly the Mets spirited bunch last night over
Speaker 2: the Phillies and then the Padres. Padres are right now
Speaker 2: in the World Series favorites according to DraftKings eight seven
Speaker 2: to seven to three DP show we bring in Mike Francesa,
Speaker 2: host of The Mike francessa podcast on the Bette Rivers
Speaker 2: Network on YouTube, former longtime co host of Mike and
Speaker 2: the Mad Dog on WFAM in New York. Mike, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. Did the New York Jets have a
Speaker 2: good day yesterday?
Speaker 11: No, Dan, good to talk to you. They didn't, I said,
Speaker 11: And I've been hot on Salah for a while for
Speaker 11: a couple of years. He was a terrible head coach,
Speaker 11: good defensive coordinator, one of those guys who's got a
Speaker 11: job for a long time. It could be the next Spagnola.
Speaker 11: He's a defensive coordinator. He's a good one. The defense
Speaker 11: is well prepared. He had not a clue how to
Speaker 11: be a head coach. He didn't understand what it meant,
Speaker 11: and he didn't do anything that you need to do
Speaker 11: to be a head coach. So but Hackett had to go.
Speaker 11: Their offense is it's nonexistent, and to have a quarterback
Speaker 11: like they have, and he has no easy throws, he
Speaker 11: has no open receivers, they have no concepts. They can't
Speaker 11: run it, they can't throw it down the field. And
Speaker 11: this is with a great player and with other top
Speaker 11: talent left tackle, running back, wide receiver, and they don't
Speaker 11: have concepts, they have no idea what they're doing, and
Speaker 11: they look abysmal doing it. And they are also so
Speaker 11: ill prepared, and nobody was held accountable. So the head
Speaker 11: coach had to go. But Hackett had to be out
Speaker 11: to do it with them. And I don't know if
Speaker 11: I don't know what role Rogers played in this. He
Speaker 11: and Sala obviously weren't getting wrong and that was easy
Speaker 11: to see. But Hackett cannot be protected here. He is
Speaker 11: not any good at his job. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 11: he's awful that he had to go to and I
Speaker 11: would have left the defensive coordinator where he was because
Speaker 11: I don't want to damage the defense, which is good,
Speaker 11: which is a little banged up and can get better
Speaker 11: if they get readick in somehow and get mostly healthy.
Speaker 11: The defense has been good, is not as good as
Speaker 11: it was last year at its zenith, but it's good.
Speaker 11: And the offense has just been deplorable. And you can
Speaker 11: see how frustrated Rodgers is with the whole thing. And
Speaker 11: he's going to get hurt too, because he's going on
Speaker 11: forty one and he's brittle and he's getting the heck
Speaker 11: knocked out of him, and they're blitzing him and it's
Speaker 11: being very effective against the guy you could never blitz
Speaker 11: in the past. So there's so much there but keeping
Speaker 11: Hacket and elevating the defensive coordinator, who might be a
Speaker 11: good head coach. I don't know, we'll see, but the
Speaker 11: point is he now has to learn a new role
Speaker 11: and he's going to impact the defense because now Sala's
Speaker 11: not there, who was good with it defense, and he's
Speaker 11: not in the same job. I would have brought in
Speaker 11: a new offensive coordinator, and I would have gotten somebody
Speaker 11: who would have taken that job. I don't know if
Speaker 11: it would have been Vrabel or Pete Carroll or who
Speaker 11: it might have been. I would have made those phone
Speaker 11: calls first and try to get somebody in here who
Speaker 11: would look at this as a great opportunity, which I
Speaker 11: think it could be if they had made the right moves.
Speaker 11: But Hackett being in the building it means it's still
Speaker 11: a disaster in my mind.
Speaker 2: But Mike, I don't know if it's an attractive job
Speaker 2: because of Aaron Rodgers, because he does have autonomy there,
Speaker 2: and how long is he going. Like if you said, hey,
Speaker 2: would you want the job you're Vrabel or Belichick, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, I'm going to wait until Aaron Rodgers is
Speaker 2: gone because I don't want to wait year to year
Speaker 2: and see what Aaron wants to do and is he
Speaker 2: going to be there and all in and how healthy
Speaker 2: and is he going on vacations and so it doesn't
Speaker 2: seem like an attractive job at least you know over
Speaker 2: the next couple of years.
Speaker 11: Very fair point. First of all, Belichick will go know
Speaker 11: where to the Jets he hates them, okay, so that
Speaker 11: we all know that that will never happen. He might
Speaker 11: be in Dallas, he might be in Philly, he might
Speaker 11: be in Jacksonville, He'll never be in New York with
Speaker 11: the he could be the Giants, he'll never be with
Speaker 11: the Jets. But I understand the point, and it's a
Speaker 11: good one. First of all, making a change in season
Speaker 11: is almost impossible. It's not your staff. You haven't had
Speaker 11: time to work with everybody, you haven't had time to
Speaker 11: prepare a philosophy. None of that makes sense changing a
Speaker 11: coach mid stream. I would have brought a Frank Reich
Speaker 11: in to run the offense, and then I would have
Speaker 11: tried to bring somebody in to run the team. But
Speaker 11: I would have sat Aaron Rodgers down and listen. I
Speaker 11: know there's a lot of excuses coming out, and I
Speaker 11: think sala is probably a part of that genesis of
Speaker 11: this stuff. He was going to take the job away
Speaker 11: from Hackett and give it to Downing. I don't know
Speaker 11: if that's true. He got fired because he wore a
Speaker 11: Lebanese decal on his sweatshirt. I doubt that very much. Okay,
Speaker 11: if we he didn't want him to wear that, he
Speaker 11: wouldn't have want it. I don't believe any of that stuff.
Speaker 11: He got fired because as a bad head coach and
Speaker 11: the team was falling apart. But they didn't do what
Speaker 11: they needed to do. They needed to get rid of him,
Speaker 11: and they needed to get rid of the offensive coordinator
Speaker 11: who is INECT and they didn't do that, and that's
Speaker 11: on Rogers. And I would have sat Rogers down there
Speaker 11: and I would have said this, listen, you like looking
Speaker 11: like you look the last two weeks. Look like a bum.
Speaker 11: You want to have that as your way of going
Speaker 11: out of the NFL. You want to get pounded until
Speaker 11: you can't walk. You want to throw three interceptions and
Speaker 11: a pick six. This is not who you are. Why
Speaker 11: do you want to be part of this. Let me
Speaker 11: bring somebody in and fix this with you. We'll sit down,
Speaker 11: we'll come up with a name, and we will fix this.
Speaker 11: But Hackett has to go. And that should have been
Speaker 11: what the owner said. The owners should have taken control.
Speaker 11: Salin never had control of Rogers. Rogers has been in
Speaker 11: control of the franchise since he got here, but he's
Speaker 11: not doing it right either. If he did, Hackett would
Speaker 11: have gone out the door.
Speaker 2: Also, don't we scrutinize Woody Johnson the way we do
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson or Jerry.
Speaker 11: Jones, because wood he is not we take because I'll
Speaker 11: give you exactly why, because we don't take what he seriously.
Speaker 11: We take Jerry seriously, and we know he screws up
Speaker 11: a lot of stuff, okay, and we take him seriously
Speaker 11: because he medals what he doesn't want to medal. He
Speaker 11: doesn't want to. He wants to be an owner and
Speaker 11: he wants to have cocktails with his buddies, and then
Speaker 11: he wants to run a Trump fundraiser and then go
Speaker 11: off and be an ambassador again. Remember what, he didn't
Speaker 11: hire Faler. That was a big part of this too.
Speaker 11: He didn't hire him. His brother did. That was a
Speaker 11: big part of this, and that's why he didn't feel
Speaker 11: any allegiance to him. I was surprised what he made
Speaker 11: this move in. I called for this last week. And
Speaker 11: I'm not saying he did it because because he did
Speaker 11: not doubt what he listens to me, what he and
Speaker 11: I don't get along. But the point is I didn't
Speaker 11: think Wood he had this in him to do this.
Speaker 11: But of course what he screwed it up like he's
Speaker 11: who's up everything football wise, because he didn't do it
Speaker 11: the right way. He did it halfway, and he did
Speaker 11: it the wrong way. Because I think this way. I
Speaker 11: don't think it can work.
Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Francessa, if you're looking at which franchise
Speaker 2: is in better shape, the Jets of the Giants, who
Speaker 2: would you say, uh, neither, you got to pick one?
Speaker 2: Which team you.
Speaker 11: Had to pick one? Right now? I'd pick the Jets
Speaker 11: because they have more talent. I'd pick the Jets because
Speaker 11: they have Aaron Rodgers. And if I can get Aaron
Speaker 11: Rodgers out of the way and just let him be
Speaker 11: the quarterback, this can work. They have talent, they have
Speaker 11: a Hall of Fame left tackle, they have offensive linemen
Speaker 11: who can play. The problem is they haven't been properly coached.
Speaker 11: They haven't been together long enough to understand the concept
Speaker 11: of how to block together. They are all new that
Speaker 11: it wasn't gonna work unless you had strong coaching. This
Speaker 11: is not a good coaching staff and it's not a
Speaker 11: good offensive room. And Hackett is in it. He shouldn't
Speaker 11: be there. Okay, he's only there because he's buddies with
Speaker 11: the star quarterback. That's not a reason to be there.
Speaker 11: And everybody in the league knows it. And here's what's
Speaker 11: the jokes on Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers looked at the
Speaker 11: head coach with complete contempt and disdain and is glad
Speaker 11: he's gone. But now the world is looking at Aaron
Speaker 11: Rodgers that way because he protected his buddy, and that's
Speaker 11: not going to work.
Speaker 2: If you gave the Jets a mulligan, would they bring
Speaker 2: in Aaron Rodgers again?
Speaker 11: No, I don't think they would. It's been too much trouble.
Speaker 11: I really don't think they would. I think they tried
Speaker 11: something I could understand how it could work. Listen, would
Speaker 11: he had a chance to make this right? Last summer?
Speaker 11: A lot of people, including me, screamed, get rid of
Speaker 11: the coach and clear down the staffs and get rid
Speaker 11: of Hacket and you can win and fix the offensive line.
Speaker 11: They fix the offensive line, and then the GM screwed
Speaker 11: up the Reddick thing and got rid of the wrong
Speaker 11: people on defense, so he weakened the defense. But the
Speaker 11: defense is still playing really well. The problem is, hey,
Speaker 11: Breeze Hall looked like a superstar last year. He doesn't
Speaker 11: even know which end is up right now, and he
Speaker 11: is so upset it's ridiculous. He's getting hit in the
Speaker 11: backfield every other play. The offensive line cannot run block.
Speaker 11: They have no concepts. Aaron Rodgers isn't missing open receivers.
Speaker 11: They have no open receivers. All they can run is
Speaker 11: quick passing. If they don't get rid of the ball
Speaker 11: and two point five, he's on his back. They have
Speaker 11: no running games, they have no concepts. They're running the
Speaker 11: wrong way. From a Hall of Fame quarterback. It is
Speaker 11: a joke what's going on right now, and it's not
Speaker 11: going to get fixed if hackets in the room.
Speaker 2: I love to hear your passion.
Speaker 11: It's just sickening to watch. But I never thought I
Speaker 11: was surprised what he fired Salah. I came out yesterday.
Speaker 11: I was playing golf. I got off the court. Of course,
Speaker 11: my wife said to me, they fired Salah. I said,
Speaker 11: get out of here. I said, they actually clean house.
Speaker 11: She goes, no, they only got rid of sala I said,
Speaker 11: of course.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. As always, Mike, you will
Speaker 2: danced all right, buddy. Mike francessa host of the Mike
Speaker 2: Francisca podcast on Bette Rivers Network on YouTube, longtime host
Speaker 2: Mike and the Mad Dog. That's what you hear in
Speaker 2: New York. That's what you used to hear with Mike
Speaker 2: and Chris and they were the voice of the fan.
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here Kurt and Iowa.
Speaker 2: Good morning Kurt, what's on your mind today?
Speaker 8: Hey, good morning Dan, Good morning boys. Hey Polly, this
Speaker 8: is your old direct TV hookup for the Winna Bay
Speaker 8: go years ago. Go with me on this. I have
Speaker 8: a little bit of a prediction for Aaron Rodgers. So
Speaker 8: the rest of the season goes a little better than
Speaker 8: the last last few weeks. Looks pretty good. Sam Donald
Speaker 8: takes the Vikings on at least a one win playoff journey.
Speaker 8: Donald to the Jets, Rogers to the Vikings, and his
Speaker 8: Brett Farve circle is complete.
Speaker 2: That is original. But I don't think that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kurt. Good to talk to you again. Because remember,
Speaker 2: for everybody who says, oh Sam Donald and the Vikings,
Speaker 2: they drafted JJ McCarthy. Sam was brought in to be
Speaker 2: a backup quarterback to JJ. He was going to start
Speaker 2: a few games. But they thought so much of JJ
Speaker 2: McCarthy they drafted him. They drafted him high. Aaron is
Speaker 2: not going this is his last stop. I don't know
Speaker 2: how long much longer he's going to play, But no,
Speaker 2: I do not see him doing the Brett Farv you
Speaker 2: know where it's the Green Bay to the Jets, to
Speaker 2: the Vikings.
Speaker 10: Yes, Paul, I have another pie.
Speaker 6: Then Aaron Rodgers will play for another team in his career,
Speaker 6: oh the field, not a specific time, okay, but one
Speaker 6: more stop?
Speaker 2: Does anybody want a piece of that? We already have?
Speaker 2: The Jets will win a Super Bowl before appear in
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl before the Cowboys do.
Speaker 4: Okay, Todd, I can't believe I'm saying this because I
Speaker 4: don't know. I think Rogers will play for another team
Speaker 4: beyond the Jets. I can't picture what team that is,
Speaker 4: but I think he's got another team.
Speaker 2: Anybody think Aaron Rodgers? Who else thinks Aaron Rodgers plays
Speaker 2: for another team? Okay, I'm on an island? Well no,
Speaker 2: you're with Paulie. Oh god, no, well you might as
Speaker 2: well be on an island. We're gonna die past. Yes, yeah, Marvin,
Speaker 2: you want a piece of that that Aaron Rodgers plays
Speaker 2: for somebody else?
Speaker 5: You know I'm team Paulie too.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, god, all right, I'll take the bet. You
Speaker 2: guys are soft.
Speaker 9: So which side of the vet do you have?
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers doesn't play for another team.
Speaker 9: I don't think he plays for another team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go all right. Yeah, so it's Seaton and
Speaker 2: I giving pies to Marvin, Paulie and Fritze. Right now,
Speaker 2: you're on team Paulie Ram. Okay, that's what comes with it.
Speaker 5: We're giving pies to you because we're winning.
Speaker 2: This Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take that. Curtis in Illinois, Hi, Curtis,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 8: Warner DP.
Speaker 12: I just wanted to point out that this thing just
Speaker 12: reeks of Aaron Rodgers having his fingerprints all over it,
Speaker 12: because it reminds me of his days in Green Bay
Speaker 12: when you had to have had some kind of hand
Speaker 12: in getting McCarthy fired mid season, and then you know,
Speaker 12: ultimately the Packers deciding to move on from him after
Speaker 12: giving him that opportunity. And it almost seems like the
Speaker 12: same thing here where if they're threatening getting rid of Hacket,
Speaker 12: his buddy, he said, it's either Hackett and I'm gone,
Speaker 12: or get rid of the head coach and let me
Speaker 12: run the show. And it's ultimately going to be on him,
Speaker 12: and I think he'll go down and flames this year.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, it's already getting warm, you know, the
Speaker 2: fire is starting to crackle a little bit there. But
Speaker 2: you know, going back to Green Bay, I don't care to.
Speaker 2: I just know that somebody in that organization said they
Speaker 2: were hoping Erin was going to leave a year earlier
Speaker 2: because they knew it. Just it's not what they wanted
Speaker 2: to do. That's not the direction they wanted to go in.
Speaker 2: And they had seen enough of Jordan Love that they
Speaker 2: were willing to take that chance. Not everybody knew he
Speaker 2: was going to be potentially a really good quarterback. I
Speaker 2: think they thought that he did have the potential, but
Speaker 2: everybody now looks at it. Go, man, Jordan Love is
Speaker 2: you know he's going to be a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: I don't think they knew that, but I think they
Speaker 2: knew enough that they were willing to take a chance
Speaker 2: to go in a different direction. And that should tell
Speaker 2: you everything you need to know. And Aaron going to
Speaker 2: the Jets. Look, you got paid, you got a chance.
Speaker 2: You got bringing your buddy as off. It's a coordinator.
Speaker 2: You get to bring in your buddies wide receiver like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is good. I get to hang out, go to
Speaker 2: the Ranger games. I get to go to the Yankee games.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets to see me on the jumbo tron. This
Speaker 2: is awesome. I'm I'm in the media capital of the world. Hey,
Speaker 2: how are you hey? And then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you don't win or you get injured, and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you're not up on the jumbo tron anymore. Yes, Paul,
Speaker 2: you know what's.
Speaker 6: The sneaky undercovered storyline?
Speaker 10: Month one? Do you want to play?
Speaker 5: Guests?
Speaker 10: That's sneaky and.
Speaker 6: Jordan loved not playing great for the Packers. He's a
Speaker 6: fifty six percent passer with eight touchdowns and five picks
Speaker 6: in three games. I know I didn't play, but his
Speaker 6: all the numbers are way down from last year. It's
Speaker 6: only three games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but check his overall winning record, his winning percentage.
Speaker 2: I think he has a losing record.
Speaker 10: Yeah, he's ten and eleven in his career with the Package.
Speaker 2: Yes, as a starting quarterback, and they're paying him fifty
Speaker 2: million dollars a year.
Speaker 6: Last year he did have thirty two touchdowns eleven picks,
Speaker 6: way high numbers.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just I keep saying this. I gotta
Speaker 2: see more before I invest in that kind of money.
Speaker 2: Seems like a great kid. When we met with him
Speaker 2: in Vegas. He looked great second half of the season.
Speaker 2: He was probably the best quarterback. You go to Dallas,
Speaker 2: you dominate there. You know you got a chance to
Speaker 2: get to the NFC title game. Like there was so
Speaker 2: much much momentum, but we get caught up in those
Speaker 2: moments or a half a season or maybe one season.
Speaker 2: If I'm giving that much money, I got to see
Speaker 2: a couple of I got to see consistency there. Because
Speaker 2: if I said to the Cardinals, you could have a
Speaker 2: do over with Kyler Murray, do you think they they
Speaker 2: would pay him that money when they paid it now?
Speaker 2: Maybe do you think the Eagles would have paid Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts that money? Maybe Trevor Lawrence. Maybe the Bengals would
Speaker 2: have done that with Joe Burrow. The Chargers would have
Speaker 2: done that with Justin Herbert. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 2: I need to see a little bit more. The sample
Speaker 2: size has got to be more than eighteen games. It
Speaker 2: just does for me to spend that kind of money,
Speaker 2: or I do it a year early. I can't do that.
Speaker 2: I know the Bills did that with Josh Allen. Josh
Speaker 2: Allen is different. You know they ended up getting a
Speaker 2: bargain with Josh Allen, the Chiefs, you know, with Patrick Maholmes.
Speaker 2: They ended up getting a bargain with him. But that's why,
Speaker 2: you know, when these quarterbacks come up, I just need
Speaker 2: I need to see a larger sample size. All right,
Speaker 2: when we come back, update the poll results, and we
Speaker 2: play the popular game sweeping the countryside. In or out?
Speaker 2: Are you in or are you out? On these topics
Speaker 2: coming on?
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Speaker 2: If you're fans of Only Murders in the building. A
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Speaker 2: Steve Martin is he and Martin short? Great great team,
Speaker 2: great combo, a lot of fun. All righty, update to
Speaker 2: pull results there, seat, and then we're gonna play Are
Speaker 2: you in or are you out? You can't be both.
Speaker 2: It's in or out.
Speaker 9: Those two guys, by the way, one of the greatest
Speaker 9: comebacks career wise in recent memory. Yeah, neither one of
Speaker 9: them was really doing anything for at least it seemed
Speaker 9: like for a very very long time, and then they
Speaker 9: came back with a.
Speaker 2: Smash with a vengeance. Oh yeah. I don't know if
Speaker 2: Steve Martin was choosing to do things, but Martin Short
Speaker 2: certainly a big comeback for him. But those two together
Speaker 2: dialogue is wonderful. Yes, Paul Martin Short.
Speaker 6: He had the recurring role on The Morning Show, right,
Speaker 6: the skivie.
Speaker 10: Producer, old producer.
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a good one too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's coming back a new season with
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon. What else is coming back?
Speaker 2: The Lincoln Lawyer is another one that I enjoy. I
Speaker 2: think the new season of that is coming back as well.
Speaker 2: I saw the movie, is it not? No, it's it's different.
Speaker 2: The star you probably haven't ever heard of before, but
Speaker 2: he's very good. And then the woman who plays his ex.
Speaker 3: Wife, Nev Campbell.
Speaker 2: Nev Campbell, Nev Campbell good pull. Yes, Nev Campbell was
Speaker 2: there as well. All right, see what else do you have?
Speaker 9: Let's see Aaron Rodgers makes the Jets job more attractive
Speaker 9: or less attractive? Mm hmm, well right now, eighty percent
Speaker 9: of the audience say less attractive.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because you're going to start next season. Is
Speaker 2: he going to play after next season? Is it going
Speaker 2: to be all in? Do you have to entice him? Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm not coming back unless there's changes. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. All right, time to
Speaker 2: play in or out? Pollie, would you explain the rules
Speaker 2: for the audience.
Speaker 10: It's complex. If you're driving, pull over.
Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let me let me process this.
Speaker 6: I'm going to put out a statement concept thought and
Speaker 6: you either say I'm in on that or I'm out,
Speaker 6: and you have to say.
Speaker 7: It like that.
Speaker 2: I'm in on that, I'm out.
Speaker 10: Perfect and nailed it. Well you're an actor.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Oh, by the way, I got
Speaker 2: my script for Happy Gilmore Too. I got my script yesterday,
Speaker 2: so I have I think a couple of scenes and
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore Too. Was invited to go on set at
Speaker 2: any point or because I'm shooting my scenes here, they said,
Speaker 2: if you'd like to go see sand Man and some
Speaker 2: of the people on site, but I'm going to shoot
Speaker 2: my scenes here. You're in on having Medison in I'm
Speaker 2: in on Happy Gilmore, Yes, but I'm not going to
Speaker 2: go out in New Jersey with a shooting. Okay, here
Speaker 2: we go.
Speaker 6: Robert Sala well end up getting a bit of a
Speaker 6: Hall pass, and the blame will be pinned on owner
Speaker 6: Woody Johnson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: In or out, I'm out. He's going to get blamed.
Speaker 2: He'll get more blame. I don't think he was ever.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was a head coach. He's he's
Speaker 2: that classic. Hey, your defensive coordinator, you should be a
Speaker 2: head coach. Not everybody. Now, he was good for the media.
Speaker 2: I just don't think he was a good head coach.
Speaker 2: So I'm out on that. Anybody in on Robert Sala
Speaker 2: not getting the blame getting a Hall pass?
Speaker 10: Outers?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 6: If I were a prime head coaching candidate, I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be hesitant at all with becoming the Jets head coach.
Speaker 2: I'm out on that. I would not be interested in
Speaker 2: that job. Is anybody in on the Jets head coaching position?
Speaker 5: I'm in. That's a good team, that talented team.
Speaker 2: Okay, good luck, here we go.
Speaker 9: If they're as talented as we as people believe they are,
Speaker 9: what's the problem.
Speaker 6: I love your thought process.
Speaker 2: This is really the Todd Fritz rule. So Todd doesn't
Speaker 2: explain anythingoration. No, No, it's in or out.
Speaker 9: I mean you remember when they had they asked Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 9: They were like, hey, what, uh you know, did you
Speaker 9: see the way like whatever team they handled Garrett Wilson
Speaker 9: last week? Did you learn anything from that? And he
Speaker 9: was like, uh, with all due respect, I'm not Garrot Wilson.
Speaker 10: So you're an outer.
Speaker 9: I'm very much an outer.
Speaker 2: All right, Right here we go.
Speaker 3: This New York Mets team is likable.
Speaker 9: Out.
Speaker 3: I'm a I'm gonna throw my I'm kind of in.
Speaker 2: You can't be kind of in, Okay, I mean my game,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna save a begrudging out like I
Speaker 2: love the game last night, you know, but I don't.
Speaker 2: You're audy'n. I'm an Audi, Yes, a four door AUTI okay.
Speaker 6: Next up, the twelve team college football Playoff is actually
Speaker 6: making the regular season more interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm in. You know I said that from the beginning.
Speaker 2: We're gonna care more because now you're not out of
Speaker 2: the postseason. Oh, yes see, I'm in.
Speaker 3: Okay in November is gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's saying that.
Speaker 3: A army Navy.
Speaker 6: Utah, the Utah Hockey Club that their official name should
Speaker 6: stick with that name forever.
Speaker 2: I'm in, I'm in. I watched last night early lead,
Speaker 2: held on Yeah, one of the books.
Speaker 6: Just you know, we're not out of in or outs.
Speaker 6: I have two more left home.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, let's wait until next hour.
Speaker 10: I'll keep them all right.
Speaker 2: Two hours in the books, one more go, the Minister
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