1 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit 2 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Junior with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome 3 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: into this week's Ozone podcast, We're Not going to the Late. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: This week is presented by by Star and this week's 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: guest is Jaguars defensive lineman Malcolm Brown. Malcolm, first of all, 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: welcome and I appreciate you doing this. Thank you, And 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: it's no problem. Okay, it's uh tell me, uh you are? 8 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: But if it's a transition or not. I always thought 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: you were a nose tackle coming in. You're not really 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: playing nose in this scheme or maybe you are? Are 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: you all over the front or tell me about your 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: role and I do you like it? Do you like 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: the way you're fitting in? Uh? Yeah, I definitely like 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: how offensive defense. You know what I'm saying, uh, is 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: that they're grounding away everything. Didn't even wherever they needed 16 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: to be at all players they needed to play left 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: end any situation. I'll be able to play it. But uh, 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just wherever they tell me I gotta go. 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I just try to do that job as the best 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: of my ability, you know what I mean. As I 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: was preparing for this you know, I'm always fascinated by 22 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, especially those tackles. Defensive lineman, whatever the role, 23 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: your role is to occupy, get off, make plays. But 24 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: you gotta be in the nitty gritty. What does it 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: take to play this position? Tell me about because it's brutal. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: People who watch football see wide receivers, you guys running around, 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: but you have a brutal position. Tell me about. I 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: just I mean, I mean one word that comes to mind, 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: and it just takes grit, you know what I'm saying. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: You gotta want to win a fight. You gotta want 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: to be in there. You can't be down there and 32 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: not want to be in there and not want to 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: play the run and not want to do these things. 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: But then you don't get blown out of there. So 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: you gotta be built for You gotta be made a 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: little different, you know what I'm saying everybody, and not 37 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: made to be intrenched. So, um, you gotta just you, 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean kind of just be a tough guy. You know, 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: just know what your job is. It's just not the 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: staying through the down. Is there ever a time third 41 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: quarter you're getting up for the fiftieth time that game? 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Some Lineman's on top of your saying, Man, I wish 43 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I was a wide receiver. Definitely not. Man, I love 44 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: what I do. You know what I'm saying, I wouldn't 45 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: be here. That's how I look at I wouldn't be 46 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: here if I wasn't doing this. So uh, I mean 47 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I embrace it, and you know what 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean. I just go out there, try to get 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: the job done. And no point during the game, while 50 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: like I want to play different. Why are you good at? 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: What is it about you that makes you good at? 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: You've been playing a long time? First round pick? Why 53 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: are you fit for this? Um? I mean, I think 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: it takes it just that, it takes a whole bunch 55 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, you got to kind of know 56 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: about the position. I kind of know what the job is, 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: I know, with the aspect of you and all those things, 58 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: and then you just go out there and within those 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: guidelines and try to, you know, just disrupt the offense 60 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: or do whatever you can. It just needs to play. 61 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: I played on the inside. Final question because it fascinates me. 62 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen you know, not naming names? Have 63 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: you ever seen a guy who's playing at you that 64 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: you're like, man, this guy ain't gonna make it. This 65 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: guy is not put on this earth to be a 66 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: those tackle, but he's here. Especially when you get to 67 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: the league, I'm sure there's some guys who just can't 68 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: do it. I say, once you get to the league, 69 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I mean everybody's kind of at that level where everybody's 70 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: playing good. If you made it here, obviously they've seen 71 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: something in you for you to build this level. And 72 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: everybody got different skill sets. So I can't look at 73 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: one guy and be like, oh, you're not You're not 74 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: made fence because he might not be like the best 75 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: runs stopper, but I mean he might get up the 76 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: field real well, or he might do something really good 77 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: in a different position. I might be missing that, you 78 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, I mean everybody kind of 79 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: got their own little room at the end, like their 80 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: own kind of body type, the kind of get off, 81 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: they own get off kind of whatever the defense is, 82 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of working within that. But I mean, 83 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: whatever that steam is, whatever that's go technique, if that's 84 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: based two gap, whatever it may be like that, that 85 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: players within that steam. So tell me about this run defense. 86 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: There's been so much talk about it, it has struggled 87 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: here in the last couple of years. What is different 88 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: about you guys, I know the past of the past. 89 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: What is different about this front that gives you confidence 90 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a unit that can 91 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: stop the run? I know it's the emphasis. I just 92 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: think that, you know, but all stars, that is trust, 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you gotta trusted your teammate's gonna 94 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: be in their gap, and they gotta trust that you're 95 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: gonna be in your gap. And y'all just gotta kind 96 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: of work work together, you know. I mean we're all 97 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: building that that, you know, that relationship where we know 98 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: how each other plays, and we know how they fit 99 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: on these things and this and that, so we could 100 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: play well off each other. That's gonna go well to 101 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: the run game. Not even gaps open and stuff like 102 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: that for people to hit in preecess for big yards. So, um, 103 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: that's where it all starts at, and that's what we 104 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: want to start at. So everybody just we just want 105 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: to be fundamentally sound in the run game, you know 106 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, you're getting the way they in those 107 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: fastest situations. Kind of a different topic, but I want 108 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: to get to it. Texas to the SEC. It's a 109 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: big move, um. But you know, I mean, I'm glad 110 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: that they, you know, trying to trying to better themselves. 111 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Get I mean, I'm not gonna say better because there's 112 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: some great competition in the Big twelve too, so but 113 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, whatever they see over there in 114 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 1: SEC that they want to make that move for, they 115 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: have their own reasons. But I mean, I'll be watching, 116 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: you know, and I'll always be room for Texas. I 117 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: got you. We're in the middle of a work week 118 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: for the these guys, so explain to fans. We're not 119 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna be too long with Malcolm today. So I gotta 120 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: get to this question. Two thousand and seventeen AFC Championship game, 121 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: you're playing the Jackson. Did you ever think that it 122 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: was over at game point? Malcolm? Because this team had you, 123 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: did they not? Uh? Man? The one the one thing 124 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: I've always learned a boy playing in the NFL is 125 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: to never give up, you know what I mean. And 126 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: that's that's something that's gonna steal in me. I've learned it. 127 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Ere Like there's so many different times in my career. 128 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: So even whatever the scoreboard may say, there's always that 129 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: chance until ever read zero zero. So I think in 130 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: assistance that we were in there where everybody had, we 131 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: didn't lose no hope throughout the whole game because you know, 132 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody just knew, you know, I mean, just 133 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: never give up, Just keep on trying, just keep on 134 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: playing the next play, the next this, the next st 135 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: not to you know, sit there in festor on the 136 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: pass and what the scoreboard might say not not the 137 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: biggest supposed to plays that they had that game, But 138 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, just keep on working towards the next player, 139 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just well, we'll sit down and 140 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: see where is that when it says zero zero. Okay, 141 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: this may be different from the perspective where you were playing. 142 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: But I gotta ask this because Fan and want to know, 143 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: have you talked to him about it and was miles down? 144 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: Has it never come up between the guys. I think 145 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: since I've been here, well we've all been about the now, 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: in the future of the of the organization, you know 147 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: what I mean. And uh, I mean we kind of 148 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: bring up those moments because you know, you want to 149 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: feel those moments again that they had here getting to 150 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: the scampionship. But like I said, we all just we 151 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of just looking towards the future and we all 152 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: just try helping you to get better at this point. 153 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it might have came up, but we didn't 154 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: sit there and talk about it too. Now I got you. 155 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: We're moving on from you know what I mean, Like 156 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: we're trying to get the team back to where it 157 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: was then. So um, I don't know how much how 158 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: much good it's gonna be talking about that game when 159 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: we're trying to reach that game and the matters now, 160 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: it's just what we'll work we're put in. I don't 161 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: feel no doubt. One final question on these lines, and 162 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: I got a couple of uh more for you at 163 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: the end. How do you feel going into this season? 164 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: It's Week one? It's why you're on. You're a veteran guy, 165 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: You've seen success, You've seen things built. How do you 166 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: feel about the Jaguars route right now going into Week one? Man? 167 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: One thing I know about being in this league it's 168 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: it's a long season, you know what I'm saying. And 169 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: somebody learned earlier on in my career was that you 170 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: know the team ain't gonna be where you wanted to 171 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: be in September. But it needs to be getting better 172 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: every week still at that point. So um, that's all 173 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: we like I people are saying, that's all we trying 174 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: to do. We try to come in and take a 175 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: day by day I mean week by week and stack 176 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: them all up together and hopefully you know, we in 177 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: then every week would have dug. That's what we're working towards, 178 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So ums like we just 179 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: we just we're working for real. One final thing we 180 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: do on this we call it the ozone five five 181 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: quick questions will ask you and get you out of here. 182 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: If you weren't playing football, what sport would you play? 183 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: I've been professional fishing. Have you done any of it 184 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville yet? Definitely? I've been out. I stay out 185 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: by a golf course. I'll be up on the little 186 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: pond and everything out there, so I'll be catching some 187 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: bass and everything. What's your last binge watch? I like 188 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: to watch? There's about dragon ball z Okay, I like 189 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: to watch jagon Ball. I could put that on anything 190 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and watch that all the way. Group. I got you 191 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: your favorite breakfast food? Uh saucay, it gets you breakfast 192 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: selling pretty good? Where from it doesn't matter. No homemade 193 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: not gonna be homemade. I gotta make it myself. I 194 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: got you. What's the last song that you listened to 195 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: in your car on the way here this morning? I 196 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: think it was That's facts my little baby, I think. 197 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: But little baby? And what's the name? Um, who's get 198 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: on there with him? I hope you're not asking me? Yeah, 199 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: little dirt, Yeah, yeah, that's what that's fact. Final question, Uh, 200 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: who's most responsible for you being here? Meaning in your life? 201 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: Who's your biggest influence to get you to the NFL? 202 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: I would say it weren't like one big thing. It's 203 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: like a lot of people as a mistakes, you know 204 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was like I've been around some 205 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: people like I could. One person was with my cousin, 206 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, growing up. He was real good at football, 207 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: and there's some things happened in his life. You know, 208 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: things happen to everybody's lives. But you know, I mean 209 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: when people make mistakes, you know, everybody could go through 210 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: and make that same mistake, or they could go through 211 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: and learn from those same mistakes. Him. I think I 212 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: learned from those mistakes and I just try to, you know, 213 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: get as far as I could, because a lot of 214 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: people have talent that didn't kind of you know, reaching 215 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: the peak of their talent, or that caught up with 216 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: some other thing out there. So you know, I just 217 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: that's a real big thing on me, just trying to 218 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: learn from other's mistakes so I don't end up, you know, 219 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: in the same condition or whatever it may do. Fantastic answer, Malcolm, 220 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: I'll get you out of here. I appreciate you doing 221 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: this today. I look forward to working with you down 222 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: the road. And good luck to see all right. Thank you,