Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's going to everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on or Wrestling Server Live. We are here every
Speaker 1: day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern. It is Tuesday here on this program, and
Speaker 1: we've got a lot to talk about here today, including
Speaker 1: Monday Night Raw last night. We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 1: We've actually got a lot of other big news on
Speaker 1: top of that. Becky Lynch, as noted, separated her shoulder
Speaker 1: in that match with Bianca bell Air and now unfortunately
Speaker 1: it looks like she's expected to be out several months.
Speaker 1: And so two things. Number one, it does not appear
Speaker 1: with a minor shoulder separation, and number two, holy smokes,
Speaker 1: she is tough. I'll talk about this more after the break, because, uh,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I separated my shoulder twice wrestling, so
Speaker 1: I've got I got a lot I can say about this.
Speaker 1: One a w's first ever console game, now available for
Speaker 1: preorder fifty nine nine US for all consoles and PCs.
Speaker 1: We can tell you about that. More notes from Rick
Speaker 1: Flair's last match, which took place on Sunday night, including
Speaker 1: Flair appears to be okay. We're now two days after
Speaker 1: the match and he seems to be all right, so
Speaker 1: that's that's good news. Certainly didn't look all right in
Speaker 1: the match. We have the Rampage ratings. I know people
Speaker 1: don't like to talk a lot about ratings, but this
Speaker 1: is a story. This show tanked, so we'll tell you
Speaker 1: about that. We got SmackDown ratings as well. Brian Danielson
Speaker 1: talks about the talking Smeck segment with the mids and
Speaker 1: what the original plan was. It was all the work.
Speaker 1: For those of you that still cling to its being real,
Speaker 1: it was all a work, but it was not exactly
Speaker 1: as I was supposed to go. So we'll tell you
Speaker 1: about that n x T lineup for tonight. And as noted,
Speaker 1: Raw on Monday Night, and I got something I gotta
Speaker 1: say about Raw when you come back from the break,
Speaker 1: because there's a talking point all over the internet and
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit baffled by. And then we'll
Speaker 1: get in all the other news, So stick around, everybody.
Speaker 1: Back in a moment Observer Live, you get a shiver
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of news we're gonna get into today,
Speaker 1: but I I gotta start with this because I've seen
Speaker 1: this all over the internet, including on our board. I've
Speaker 1: seen it on the chats here, and it is this, uh,
Speaker 1: this deal. You know, that Raw show last night wasn't
Speaker 1: bad at all. It's actually a pretty good show. And
Speaker 1: now the big talking point of the internet is, oh,
Speaker 1: now everyone's gonna have to dissect every small little change
Speaker 1: to the show. And you know, oh, you know, just
Speaker 1: because it shows a little better doesn't mean it's great.
Speaker 1: And what listen to everybody, you all, everyone can have
Speaker 1: their opinion about right. If you still don't want to
Speaker 1: watch Raw, fine, okay, fine, But to get upset that I,
Speaker 1: for example, I'm excited about little changes on the show,
Speaker 1: get out of here. I'm excited, dude, any positive little
Speaker 1: change of that show I'm excited about. If you're not,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but don't get mad at me about it. Bro.
Speaker 1: I've been watching this show. I've been watching this show
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety one or whatever. This show debut. It
Speaker 1: was right, whatever it was, I should know that since
Speaker 1: we're reviewing the ninety three ros. But the point is,
Speaker 1: I've been watching this show since nineteen ninety three. I
Speaker 1: was senior in high school. Now I'm practically I'm so security.
Speaker 1: I've been watching this show for a long time, and
Speaker 1: at the beginning it was, you know, for the time,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I was a kid. I watched the
Speaker 1: shows and there was nothing to compare it to. It's
Speaker 1: not like, you know, I wasn't getting tapes from New
Speaker 1: Japan or anything or all Japan. Yet I was watching
Speaker 1: the show and it was fine. Then we had the
Speaker 1: Monday Night Wars and things rowesome. Then I had to
Speaker 1: suffer through World Championship Wrestling. Then WCW got sold and
Speaker 1: w w E screwed up this invasion. They ran off
Speaker 1: millions of fans, and then the show wasn't what it
Speaker 1: used to be. But it was all right because he
Speaker 1: had a lot of talent. Yet Eddie Guerrero's and brock
Speaker 1: Lesser's and curd Angles, and you know, I'm not supposed
Speaker 1: to mention his name. But in the wrestling ring, Chris
Speaker 1: ben Wap put on a lot of good matches. So
Speaker 1: we had all that for a while, and then about
Speaker 1: two thousand ten, two thousand eleven, it started to kind
Speaker 1: of it wasn't as good as it used to be.
Speaker 1: Then we went to three hours, and yeah, three hours
Speaker 1: is way too long. And for a little while it
Speaker 1: was alright at three hours, but then you know, eight nine,
Speaker 1: ten months, twelve months later as shows just two damn long.
Speaker 1: And then and then the fall of eighteen coinciding, by
Speaker 1: the way, with the eventual rise of Becky Lynch. But
Speaker 1: the summer and fall of this show went off the rails. Why.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to Evince. I don't have
Speaker 1: any idea. Maybe we'll never know, Okay, but from eighteen
Speaker 1: too they had mostly one. It got a little bit better,
Speaker 1: you know, the last six months or so before they
Speaker 1: got rid of Vince. But for at least three years though,
Speaker 1: this show was so horrible, and I don't care what
Speaker 1: anybody says. It was on par with not the worst
Speaker 1: of w CW. Okay, but it was on par with
Speaker 1: w CW when it was going down, and they were
Speaker 1: lucky that they were idiot proof because it was so bad.
Speaker 1: And I ranted about this show for three years. What
Speaker 1: a horrible show this was. I was begging for them
Speaker 1: to get rid of Vents. Well finally they get rid
Speaker 1: of the guy. And it's only been about two weeks now.
Speaker 1: But dude, it's better. It's not stupid, it's not nonsensical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too long, and if you want to complain about
Speaker 1: this little thing or that little thing, whatever, but dude,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be excited about anything on this show that's better.
Speaker 1: I gotta watch it every week. You geeks on the
Speaker 1: internet to watch your clips or whatever, and you watched
Speaker 1: this here or there and you pontificate. I kinda watched
Speaker 1: this show every single week. So bro, if there's five
Speaker 1: camera cuts in one match last week and there's five
Speaker 1: thirty nine this week, there's one less cut, you don't
Speaker 1: have to celebrate that. But I am fallie. It's just
Speaker 1: like n x T two point oh. And when NFT
Speaker 1: two point o started, that show was abysmal. It was atrocious,
Speaker 1: it was appalling, it was horrible. Now it's actually better.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear well. Better still sucks. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: don't watch the show. Then I gotta watch the show
Speaker 1: every week, and the show is better, So I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Got it. What in the world happened to this world
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden there was no such thing
Speaker 1: as subjective opinions anymore. Everything had to be objective. If
Speaker 1: I don't like it, you're not allowed to like it,
Speaker 1: and if you like it, there must be something wrong
Speaker 1: with you. No, that's not how it is. Everybody has
Speaker 1: an opinion. It's been like this for one point five
Speaker 1: million years since man walked. There's one man who goes, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think we should harness that fire. You're gonna
Speaker 1: burn stuff down with that. What if we Why don't
Speaker 1: we build a house out of sticks and that fire
Speaker 1: burns house down. He had a dissenting opinion, But you
Speaker 1: know what, the other day, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it was the right move to harness fire. I don't
Speaker 1: know how I even got to that part. But the
Speaker 1: point is, I like these changes too raw. I think
Speaker 1: it's better, And I am gonna log every last single
Speaker 1: positive thing about this show, and I'm gonna appreciate it
Speaker 1: because I live a life of appreciation. Unlike some of
Speaker 1: you any thoughts, Mike, No, God, what about those people
Speaker 1: who would say, when he comes to n x T,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because you've become conditioned to what they've been
Speaker 1: giving you, and your values and your senses have slept. No,
Speaker 1: you want to go back. Why don't some of you
Speaker 1: guys that think it's not better go back and watch,
Speaker 1: you know, September, October, November of n x T two
Speaker 1: point and then get back to me. That's all I'll
Speaker 1: say about that. Now, let's talk about some news here,
Speaker 1: so I don't have to blow my stack anymore because
Speaker 1: I get hot because it's summer up here. Becky Lynch
Speaker 1: will be out several months after suffering a shoulder injury.
Speaker 1: Suffered it during the Bianca bell air match, had her
Speaker 1: arm in the sling on Monday, and now she was
Speaker 1: leaving for a while. Then they did an angle where Bailey,
Speaker 1: Kai and Sky I don't know what their name is
Speaker 1: gonna be, but they gotta come over something they ran in.
Speaker 1: They beat her up. They hit her shoulder with a chair.
Speaker 1: She's out for a while. So, as I talked about
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, there's there's low grade and
Speaker 1: uh in high grade shoulder separations. Koda, Bushy got the
Speaker 1: worst kind you can get. It's been like, how long
Speaker 1: has it been The Code of bush has been out
Speaker 1: like eight months or something like that. He's still he
Speaker 1: still can't lift weights, Okay, and who knows, I mean
Speaker 1: this way, he may never come back if it's been
Speaker 1: this long and he still can't lift weights. I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1: But I separated my shoulder twice. One was not too bad,
Speaker 1: one was really bad. And uh and one of those,
Speaker 1: one of those times I separated, I had a match
Speaker 1: the next day and it was with Buddy Wayne and
Speaker 1: Richie Magnet, who are the lightest, easiest workers. And so
Speaker 1: what happened was they jumped me at the bell and
Speaker 1: I held my arm like this. I sold the entire match.
Speaker 1: I didn't move my arm at all. They took care
Speaker 1: of me, they protected me, and I think actually won
Speaker 1: the tag team titles that night, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: which probably why he didn't take the night off. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Becky didn't do that. She didn't put her arm like
Speaker 1: this and not move her arm. Dude. She worked that
Speaker 1: whole match and she she was up down, moving, lifting, throwing, bumping.
Speaker 1: That's she's the man. Yeah, I mean, holy smokes. And
Speaker 1: she talked last night about the pain that she was
Speaker 1: in and if you've never said her your shoulder, you
Speaker 1: don't know that pain. But it sucks. And she made
Speaker 1: it through that whole match because she heard her shoulder
Speaker 1: early and she still made it through the entire match.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I got nothing but respect for Becky
Speaker 1: making it through that match. The bad news is she
Speaker 1: probably made it worse by doing that, quite frankly, so
Speaker 1: you know there, they weren't gonna end the match when
Speaker 1: she got hurt, but if they had, who knows, she
Speaker 1: might have been back much sooner. But that's what they do,
Speaker 1: and that's what she did. And as Nuttie now, the
Speaker 1: most important thing is just make sure you come back
Speaker 1: when you're a hundred percent because the problem with things
Speaker 1: like shoulders are once you do that makes it a
Speaker 1: lot easier to have problems later on down the line.
Speaker 1: He got a cousin that would have issues with dislocated shoulders,
Speaker 1: would pop it out and back and just had all
Speaker 1: sorts of issues once he had it separated. So just
Speaker 1: hopefully she can be out for when she needs to be,
Speaker 1: because whenever she comes back, it's going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: a welcome change of pace, but it's also now in time.
Speaker 1: We see Dakota Sky, we see Eo. Let's get this
Speaker 1: woman's and Eo Sky Kayan Sky. Well, he said, Dakota Sky,
Speaker 1: did I what do you? What do you something thing
Speaker 1: with this group here? Because Eo Sky the queen of
Speaker 1: the Sharai, they won't go back to never mind never mind,
Speaker 1: but look, get these some of these women up. Obviously
Speaker 1: they're doing what they're doing now, which is a nice
Speaker 1: change of pace, which is something no one can disagree
Speaker 1: with you on. Back in a moment. A W video
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Speaker 1: of following features. Combines nostalgic arcade wrestling field with innovative
Speaker 1: all elite wrestling finishers and offensive moves. Offensive moves, I
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Speaker 1: W Stars single tag team three way, four way Ladder,
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Speaker 1: Exploding barbed wire death doesn't say death match. By the way,
Speaker 1: Exploding barbed wire death is one of the options, and
Speaker 1: online co op multiplayer matches, and then it adds online
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Speaker 1: feature a sequence of team maneuvers performed with simple commands.
Speaker 1: Don't know anything about video games. I couldn't. I couldn't
Speaker 1: tell you, you know, anything passed about Super Mario Brothers
Speaker 1: too over my heads. But do you ever do you
Speaker 1: ever go to the arcade and play like w WF
Speaker 1: Superstars or any But I went to the arcade. I mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't have that bag Russell Fest. The best I
Speaker 1: could get to the arcade was pro wrestling with you know,
Speaker 1: star Man and the Amazon. It it chomped you and
Speaker 1: in case you didn't know you were being chomped, they
Speaker 1: put the word chomp on the screen as he's biting
Speaker 1: your neck. But anyway, it was a very you know,
Speaker 1: it was like a one bit video game, so, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a big thing for a w and they banked
Speaker 1: a lot on this video game. As I think that
Speaker 1: everybody is well aware. And obviously if it does great,
Speaker 1: then that's great for a W and if it doesn't,
Speaker 1: that would be bad. How's that from some analysis right there?
Speaker 1: I know that's uh, that's common sense. But deep bro,
Speaker 1: there was there was. There was millions and millions and
Speaker 1: millions and millions of money that they dumped into this game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: millions of money and times millions of of of dollars money,
Speaker 1: you know, eight bit eight bit dollars. But anyway, hopefully
Speaker 1: does well because let me tell you something. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be all doom and gloom, but
Speaker 1: my god, this rampage number dude, Rampage in its normal
Speaker 1: time slot and there was not a ton of competition,
Speaker 1: did three hundred and seventy five thousand viewers a point
Speaker 1: one one in eighteen to forty nine males twelve to
Speaker 1: thirty four did a point oh two a point o
Speaker 1: two And Dave had another stat last night that's not here,
Speaker 1: but I mean, and I think it was like thirty
Speaker 1: four or something like that. I mean, it did like
Speaker 1: lower than n x T two point I has ever
Speaker 1: done this show died and I don't know where all
Speaker 1: the kids watching the roast of Ric Flair. No, that's
Speaker 1: not what happened. What happened was they didn't want to
Speaker 1: watch this show. What happened was the thing that we've
Speaker 1: been talking there. There there are two factors here that
Speaker 1: we've been talking about for a while. One of those
Speaker 1: is they were preempted so often that you know that
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you were right about habits, But Brian, come on,
Speaker 1: I said, there's two things. Can I get through the
Speaker 1: two things? One is that they got bumped around so
Speaker 1: often that there were people that just got out of
Speaker 1: the habit of watching on Fridays. That's one, And the
Speaker 1: other thing is, dude, this is not an A show.
Speaker 1: This is not a B show. This is uh C
Speaker 1: show at that and you know there's good wrestling. But
Speaker 1: we we talked about this the other like two weeks
Speaker 1: ago on the Brighton V Show. I enjoy the show.
Speaker 1: I enjoy watching Rampage, but there's nothing must see about it.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things that no one
Speaker 1: ever mentions, but but but I I'm gonna mention it here.
Speaker 1: So a lot of people talk about live and tape
Speaker 1: to this day. Oh well, you know, a tape show
Speaker 1: is not gonna do as well as live show. And
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is they do it the
Speaker 1: same if if you if you tape Rampage or if
Speaker 1: you air Rampage live, if you tape Dynamite or you
Speaker 1: do Dynamite live, it's gonna do virtually the same number.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, more often than not, the
Speaker 1: tape show does a little bit better than the live show.
Speaker 1: But we have this thing dating back to the Monday
Speaker 1: Night Wars that if you tape a show it's not
Speaker 1: going to do as well. That's not true. But to me,
Speaker 1: here's the key. It doesn't matter if it's live or taped.
Speaker 1: If a fan tuning in doesn't know if it's live
Speaker 1: or taped. Okay, if you if you go raw, if
Speaker 1: you're alive with raw, and then the next week you
Speaker 1: go live to tape to raw and you air it,
Speaker 1: and you know, your average person that doesn't know anything
Speaker 1: just watching it looks exactly the same. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: one bit. But there's a thing about Dynamite where the
Speaker 1: way that they cram things into that show and the
Speaker 1: way that they put the show together, it feels like
Speaker 1: a tape show. It doesn't feel like a live show.
Speaker 1: We we you know, the show begins, there's already a
Speaker 1: match in the ring, and then the match is over.
Speaker 1: And there's just something about the show where it feels
Speaker 1: like a taped, pre produced show. And I do think
Speaker 1: that that hurts people's interests in the show. That does
Speaker 1: keep people from thinking it's an a show, not because
Speaker 1: it's taped, but because it feels like a tape show
Speaker 1: that was put together as content on a Friday night.
Speaker 1: That is not going to get people clamoring for this show,
Speaker 1: especially with some of the lineups they've had for Rampage. Remember,
Speaker 1: people will get mad when I would read the lineup
Speaker 1: because they thought I was given away spoilers and everything
Speaker 1: like that. I haven't heard that in a while. I
Speaker 1: haven't even bothered to do faunt Leroy. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the I don't know what's happened, and I don't
Speaker 1: know what the solution is. I have a couple of theories,
Speaker 1: But do you have any thoughts? First, everything you just
Speaker 1: said negates why the whole deal about it being knocked
Speaker 1: out of position so many times there's not a steady
Speaker 1: diet of stars. It does something about it doesn't feel right,
Speaker 1: and I and I absolutely know what you mean. When
Speaker 1: it comes to the production there, there's nothing happening on
Speaker 1: it that resonates outside of that show that really sends
Speaker 1: a ripple effect. And they have got to do that
Speaker 1: because they did lose all that time. But you've had
Speaker 1: plenty of time now where your show on Wednesdays doing
Speaker 1: between nine hundred thousand and a million people the same
Speaker 1: way it was when it's at its peak, at its best.
Speaker 1: You need to figure out where to turn those people
Speaker 1: on Friday, because that's where you're stuck. That's where you
Speaker 1: stuck yourself. That's the deal. So you need to figure
Speaker 1: out how to make this work. And how you make
Speaker 1: it work? Is it making it live more often and
Speaker 1: and eating that production cost and eating the building cost
Speaker 1: so you can generate some buzz behind it? Is it?
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying keep Brian Danielson or or somebody
Speaker 1: off of Dynamite, but like really making sure that there
Speaker 1: are are names people wanted, Danielson, Punk, whoever moves a needle, Moxley,
Speaker 1: whoever it is right now, Orange, whatever those people around there,
Speaker 1: maybe a big match, a title defense or so whatever
Speaker 1: goes on there and it's built. Something has got to
Speaker 1: give because if you can't get off of Friday, you
Speaker 1: have to stop using the excuse while it was out
Speaker 1: of position for song, because that doesn't matter there their
Speaker 1: own are there, hold on if their DVR number is
Speaker 1: Dynamite on Saturday morning, that's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different story. It. If you're not giving your own fan
Speaker 1: base any reason to go over there, and they're not
Speaker 1: looking at for any reason to go over there, you
Speaker 1: can complain about we were knocked out of position all
Speaker 1: you want. You've had all of this time and people
Speaker 1: are still not buying. That's that's the bookmaking. That's all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. It's not being knocked out of position
Speaker 1: in the habit. Not now it's been too long. No listen,
Speaker 1: here's the point. It's all of those things. And here's
Speaker 1: the issue. If that thing gets knocked out of position
Speaker 1: and you don't watch it because it was preempted, and
Speaker 1: then you watch Dynamite, and then the next week you
Speaker 1: don't watch it because it was preempted, and you watch Dynamite.
Speaker 1: But there's two things. There's two things that are gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Number One, you're gonna get out of the habit of
Speaker 1: watching on Friday nights. That's number one and number two,
Speaker 1: you're gonna realize, well, I don't need to watch the
Speaker 1: show because I missed it the last two weeks. It
Speaker 1: was pre empted and it didn't affect my my like
Speaker 1: somebody here goes, well, you know they did shoot an
Speaker 1: angle that set up Chris Jericho and Utah for the
Speaker 1: title shot on Wednesday. Yeah, they did. They did shoot
Speaker 1: an angle on the show. But if you didn't watch Rampage,
Speaker 1: does missing the angle setting up that match affect your
Speaker 1: your inner your your interest in Dynamite one bit? No,
Speaker 1: you tune in a Dynamite, you find out that they
Speaker 1: set up a match between Jericho and Utah and if
Speaker 1: you two wins, he gets the title shot and get
Speaker 1: some moxie. But you don't need to watch Rampage for that,
Speaker 1: So it doesn't matter that. My point is, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter that they shot an angle on the show. You
Speaker 1: couldn't miss it, and it doesn't matter. But if you
Speaker 1: gave them a steady diet of that and a reason
Speaker 1: to tune in and a reason to oh, something's going
Speaker 1: to happen here and get people out of that malaise.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's their job now. Is to get people
Speaker 1: out of that malaise, and they haven't done it. And
Speaker 1: it's got that comes from booking, that comes from what
Speaker 1: you're putting on the screen. And yes, the stuff from
Speaker 1: before about people getting out of that, but that was
Speaker 1: a part of that. But they knew when they were
Speaker 1: coming back on, and they knew when they were going
Speaker 1: to have clear sailing. And have they taken a vantage
Speaker 1: of that time in the last what has it been
Speaker 1: now two months to full months? No, they have it
Speaker 1: period point blank. I You're welcome to think that we're
Speaker 1: going to disagree, but it does happen. You get out
Speaker 1: of the habit and you understand a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But at this point, it's been ten weeks or whatever
Speaker 1: it's been, you've been getting good numbers on dynamite, yet
Speaker 1: you still have not figured out a formula, whether it
Speaker 1: be go live, whether it be cranking as many big
Speaker 1: names on there as possible. To me, that's the only
Speaker 1: thing you're going to be able to do. And even then,
Speaker 1: because of the time slot, because of where it's positioned,
Speaker 1: they're still going to have problems there. So I don't
Speaker 1: never think they've thrown everything at the wall though, But
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to. They are going to have
Speaker 1: problems with the fact is, we saw the show do
Speaker 1: great numbers on Friday night at ten o'clock. We saw it.
Speaker 1: There is a way to get people to watch on
Speaker 1: Friday night. What they're doing is not the way to
Speaker 1: get people to watch on Friday night. They need to
Speaker 1: build up angles where the pay off is on Rampage,
Speaker 1: not an angle on Rampage to get the payoff on Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Because if that's the case, you can't skip Rampage back
Speaker 1: in a moment is there were like the right, but alright,
Speaker 1: we're back, I'm doing the raw report before you do that.
Speaker 1: What about people who say it's a one show promotion,
Speaker 1: they should only have one show nationally going on at
Speaker 1: one time. What do you think about that? Why these
Speaker 1: people understand that the more shows you have, the more
Speaker 1: money you make and the more if the world was
Speaker 1: perfect and you took that out of the knix and
Speaker 1: that didn't matter, do you think they would be better
Speaker 1: off with one show or obviously at this point they
Speaker 1: are basically a one show promotion. That's the point. That's
Speaker 1: the point Rampage. Rampage right now is dark or elevation
Speaker 1: where instead of having just big stars having squash matches,
Speaker 1: you do have big stars facing off against each other.
Speaker 1: But we are we are past the point where if
Speaker 1: you put big stars on the show in great matches,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna do well. There's we we've seen, We've
Speaker 1: got years of great wrestling you get. You get great
Speaker 1: wrestling on Dynamite. You know, look at the crossover with
Speaker 1: Dynamite Forbidden Door. You get great wrestling. If you're a
Speaker 1: new japan fan and you know they're now these r
Speaker 1: O WAH pay per views that they're putting on that
Speaker 1: have great wrestling, and you know, w W E say
Speaker 1: what you want about this Raw, but there was some
Speaker 1: good wrestling on this raw show. I mean, you need
Speaker 1: more than At Friday at ten, two stars are gonna
Speaker 1: have a great match Brody and Darby. Dude, I love
Speaker 1: that match, and what what what what happens if I
Speaker 1: missed that match? Nothing? I just missed a good match. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna use that to build up a Coffin match,
Speaker 1: which is probably going to be on Dynamite, the Big
Speaker 1: Dynamite show. So at the end of the day, you know, what,
Speaker 1: what did I miss? Other than as a fan, I
Speaker 1: really like the match, But how how is my life
Speaker 1: as an a W fan changed if I missed it?
Speaker 1: Not at all? Not at all? Does it change that
Speaker 1: I missed that a really good match? You have to
Speaker 1: have more than that. If they built up, if they
Speaker 1: built up on Dynamite for six weeks a Brody King
Speaker 1: Darby Ellen feud and it was gonna culminate in a
Speaker 1: coffin match on Rampage. Now we're talking now. If people
Speaker 1: are invested in that feud over six weeks, they will
Speaker 1: watch Rampage to see the blowoff. But angles on Rampage
Speaker 1: to set up matches on Dynamite, even great matches on
Speaker 1: Rampage to set up matches on dynamite. It ain't. It
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. Now, we're we're past that. Unfortunately, stars
Speaker 1: and surprises are needed. Yeah, payoffs are needed. That's what's needed.
Speaker 1: Payoffs are needed on the show for things that are
Speaker 1: that are probably set up on dynamite. Now we're all
Speaker 1: being up with Becky Lynch coming out where she admitted
Speaker 1: she admitted she had been a horrible person, and she
Speaker 1: flat out told us it was time to be a
Speaker 1: baby face again. No more stupid outfits. She said she's
Speaker 1: just gonna be the man, but unfortunately she is injured
Speaker 1: and she called out Bianca. They hugged. She told Bianca
Speaker 1: that will uh, I'll see again down the road, hold
Speaker 1: down the fort and she leaves. And then Bianca is
Speaker 1: doing a promo and as she's doing this promo, they
Speaker 1: cut backstage and Bailey, Kai and Sky have beaten up
Speaker 1: and destroyed Becky Lynch's shoulder, and so Becky will be
Speaker 1: out of action for a while. But it was a
Speaker 1: good interview segment. Did you like the fact that Bianca
Speaker 1: ran to the back throwing her break, Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: the only way she knows how to run. That's you know,
Speaker 1: to people talk about, hey, they put a battery in
Speaker 1: my back, you know, to fire me up. Now she's
Speaker 1: got the old crank method. That's how she gets anywhere.
Speaker 1: We had we had two three way matches, two triple threats.
Speaker 1: The winners would face off in the winner of that
Speaker 1: will get a shot at Bobby Lashley's U S title
Speaker 1: next week. And so to get it over, they had
Speaker 1: a video package of all sorts of former US champions
Speaker 1: in both n W, A, W, C, W, W W,
Speaker 1: e and it was a good little video package. We
Speaker 1: had a Logan Paul baby face promo vowing to be back,
Speaker 1: which the people in the crowd actually cheered, so we
Speaker 1: may have turned a corner with old Logan Paul for
Speaker 1: the time being. First triple Thread match a J Ali
Speaker 1: and the Miss they got nine minutes. It was a
Speaker 1: good match. A j and Ali were really good together
Speaker 1: and the finish was great. Ali hits the four miss,
Speaker 1: but he pops to his feet right upside down into
Speaker 1: the styles clash. A j gives him the styles clash
Speaker 1: onto Miss pins Ali and so j A advances in
Speaker 1: this little mini tournament here and some backstage interviews and
Speaker 1: then seth Rawlins comes out and he's making fun of Riddle,
Speaker 1: calling me an idiot. Outcome the Street Profits and the
Speaker 1: Street Profits they want a match with seth Rawlins, and
Speaker 1: you know, seth Has says, you know, you guys are losers.
Speaker 1: You know, why don't you go lose to the Usas again,
Speaker 1: And Montes says, aren't you guy that lost to seth
Speaker 1: Rawlins with one booby? His delivery was better than it
Speaker 1: sounds and it actually got a big pop. So they
Speaker 1: are going to do rock paper scissors to see which
Speaker 1: one of them gets to face. Rawlins and Rights are
Speaker 1: about to do the game. Montes cheats on his partner,
Speaker 1: grabs the reth sprints to the ring, and so he
Speaker 1: gets the match. That was interesting. They also wants to
Speaker 1: get acknowledged. Seth goes, maybe guys should just break up.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on, but there's certainly
Speaker 1: teasing that. So with Seth Rawns montes Ford it is
Speaker 1: good because Seth Rawlins is great. Montes needs a lot
Speaker 1: of singles matches if he's going to be a single star,
Speaker 1: because he looked like a tag guy doing a singles match.
Speaker 1: But they gave him a lot, and the announcers played
Speaker 1: it up like he was a star making singles performance
Speaker 1: even though Seth beat him. At the end, uh Ford
Speaker 1: went for the big splash. Rawlins got the knees up,
Speaker 1: hit him with the curb stump, pinned him, goes through
Speaker 1: it again, Dawkins runs him off, so obviously it's setting
Speaker 1: up Dawkins and Seth Rawlins with Alex and Oscar. They
Speaker 1: went two minutes, all of the other women ran in
Speaker 1: and clearly uh and then bell Air made the same
Speaker 1: to set up bell Air and she said any of
Speaker 1: you three and it was accepted by EO sky a
Speaker 1: Chad Gable promo, which led to Chompa Chad Gable and
Speaker 1: Dolph Ziggler. They got ten minutes. This was also a
Speaker 1: very good match, and they have you know, hunters in
Speaker 1: chomp as his guy. And so this show was all about, Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you guys that have watched Chompa be just a toe,
Speaker 1: nothing happening after thought, geek on this show, he's actually
Speaker 1: great and so that was the point of this show really,
Speaker 1: and he ended up getting the win here with the
Speaker 1: running knee, the fairy tale ending on Chad Gable. So
Speaker 1: he goes on to face AJ Styles later Edge promo guys,
Speaker 1: remember those horrible edge heel promos we had to put
Speaker 1: up with for you know, two months or whatever. Oh
Speaker 1: he's a baby face. Now he comes out. He says,
Speaker 1: I was a real jerk. I was trying to get
Speaker 1: these young guys over. The first thing they did was
Speaker 1: turned on me. So now I will kill what I've created.
Speaker 1: I will end the judgment day and he was done,
Speaker 1: got in, got out, good promo. It still looks like DDP,
Speaker 1: but hey, it's not a negative. We had clips from
Speaker 1: the cursed tryouts. They didn't show any of the people
Speaker 1: who got injured. We had Bianca and Eo Sky. They
Speaker 1: did go to a no kind test again when all
Speaker 1: of the women ran in and it was a bad finish,
Speaker 1: but it's a good match. Bianca Neo, the former Rio
Speaker 1: Sharai getting seventeen minutes on raw, did a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff. All the women ran in, We had a
Speaker 1: huge brawl, crowd chan and let them fight. So clearly
Speaker 1: they're they're all in on this women's division, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of tags and six persons and
Speaker 1: singles matches, and that's gonna be the focus of the
Speaker 1: show coming for the next few months. Here we had
Speaker 1: Chomp overs AJ styles book or t on commentary, another
Speaker 1: very good match. They gave Chomp a ton A J
Speaker 1: looked really good. Air raid crash Uh Styles clash attempts Uh.
Speaker 1: Finally he hit it but miss put chomper his foot
Speaker 1: on the bottom rope. Styles throws miss into the timekeeper area.
Speaker 1: They brawl outside. Chopper dives into the ring. A J
Speaker 1: tries to get back into the ring but misses out there.
Speaker 1: He grabs his foot. The ref goes seven. Hey, you're thinking,
Speaker 1: oh my god, another bad finish, but actually he breaks free.
Speaker 1: A J flies in the ring right into a knee strike,
Speaker 1: right into the fairy tale ending. Choppa beats a J
Speaker 1: and it is Tom Tom also Chompa getting the championship
Speaker 1: match against Bobby Lashly next week on the show, which
Speaker 1: should also be a very good match. Then the main event,
Speaker 1: very good main event. It was you so's versus Ray
Speaker 1: and Dominic, and they gave Dominic a lot here. I
Speaker 1: think they want you to think that he's not just
Speaker 1: some random, you know geek son of Ray Masterio. Got
Speaker 1: a lot of big spots. Ray look great and uh
Speaker 1: finally Ray superkicks, gets super kicked out. Dominic is up
Speaker 1: on the post. They're going for some horrifying but he
Speaker 1: comes off, goes for the six one nine, gets hit
Speaker 1: with the one D out of nowhere pinned USO's retained
Speaker 1: the titles judgment. Day hits the ring. They're beating him
Speaker 1: down and finally Edge runs down to make the save
Speaker 1: and they check on poor Dominic because there was a
Speaker 1: spot whereas Edges making his big comeback, he goes for
Speaker 1: the spear, but Rea pulls Dominic and Hunt and so
Speaker 1: Edge spears Dominic and so they're still teasing that Dominic
Speaker 1: is going to ultimately join the judgment day. I guess
Speaker 1: we'll see. But I thought this was much improved episode
Speaker 1: of Monday n Ira. I thought so as well too.
Speaker 1: And Ali and Chompa are two sides of the same coin,
Speaker 1: because you need to have layers. You need to have stars.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely something they need to make more of, big
Speaker 1: big stars. Not having Brock and rolling around all the time.
Speaker 1: You see what that's left you. But as you re
Speaker 1: strengthened Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley and figure out what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do with Theory and all that stuff, you
Speaker 1: need an undercard, and you need an undercard with credibility,
Speaker 1: and Chompa and Ali can be those guys. They don't
Speaker 1: have to be the world champion. I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: ever see them, Russell, you know, main eventing of WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: that's okay. But to see them beat some people lower
Speaker 1: than them and make sure that they're established as a
Speaker 1: at a higher level, I'm all for that. Making the
Speaker 1: US title important again, and making the Intercontinental title important
Speaker 1: again because you have it on two monsters. You have
Speaker 1: lastly and you have Walter. This is the perfect time
Speaker 1: to make, you know, to try to re imagine those belts,
Speaker 1: and frankly, as you move forward, that might be more
Speaker 1: and more important because look at the world title situation.
Speaker 1: Look what they can offer. What can ww all for
Speaker 1: somebody coming over from you know, somewhere else time off
Speaker 1: as world champion, and with the way the World Champion
Speaker 1: is now, they don't have to be there all the time.
Speaker 1: And if you have serious people competing for the US
Speaker 1: and Intercontinental titles and they mean something on those brands,
Speaker 1: then you don't actually have to have the world title
Speaker 1: around all of the time and have it defended every
Speaker 1: month on pay per view. So that's really important to me,
Speaker 1: you know, making sure those titles get will back up again.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they see we see what they're doing right now
Speaker 1: with the women's division. They still need bodies certainly for SmackDown,
Speaker 1: So we'll see how he goes over there as well.
Speaker 1: Do But to see Chompa, to see how he featured
Speaker 1: it all was nice. But to see Chompa kind of
Speaker 1: be put in a position where he's going to be
Speaker 1: relatively strong, that's a good thing. We need more people
Speaker 1: like that, so I got will be there here like
Speaker 1: dom is a geek. He lost again. Listen, if Dominic
Speaker 1: is going to leave and join the Judgment Day, well
Speaker 1: of course he should. That's the point. That's the angle.
Speaker 1: The angle is he can't win with his father. Every
Speaker 1: time he's in there with his father, he loses. And
Speaker 1: then Edge, who supposed leave friends with his father, spears him. Okay,
Speaker 1: this all this and the other thing is uh jingo,
Speaker 1: here goes, why would anyone want Dominic in their groups? Seriously,
Speaker 1: from a cafe perspective, why would you want this geek? Bro?
Speaker 1: How many times did Wheeler you to get a win
Speaker 1: on a w tele vision before he was recruited by
Speaker 1: the Blackpool Combat Club? How many wins did Daniel Garcia
Speaker 1: get before he was recruited into the Jericho appreciate? The
Speaker 1: point is the heels the ideas that he'll see something
Speaker 1: in the guy. They see that he can't win. They
Speaker 1: recruit him away from his father because they also want
Speaker 1: to screw his father with the idea that we'll teach
Speaker 1: this guy. Will teach this guy to be an underhanded
Speaker 1: whatever and actually win matches. That's the storyline. It's been.
Speaker 1: The storyline has been done in arresting for a thousand years.
Speaker 1: Dominic has to lose and get recruited by the Heels.
Speaker 1: That's the story. I hope Ray reaches out to Cameron
Speaker 1: Grimes right now because there are a lot of daddy
Speaker 1: issues that people want to settle for them. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the line of Fendicks T two point
Speaker 1: after the break Observer live right in the show Bright
Speaker 1: Now Bert, it's here. I don't understand these people's hatred
Speaker 1: for Dominic mysterio. I don't get it. With a bad haircut, dude,
Speaker 1: his his work is fine. He's actually pretty good. Yeah
Speaker 1: if you compare him to Ray, Yeah, he does jobs.
Speaker 1: He's young. You know they should do. He should be
Speaker 1: recruited by the Judgment Day. And the Judgment Day says,
Speaker 1: you know what, not only are we taking them you
Speaker 1: away from your useless father, but you're useless father never
Speaker 1: even gave you the mask. Therefore, we're going to give
Speaker 1: you a mask. And you have some awesome looking heel
Speaker 1: mask that you give Dominics And now he's got a
Speaker 1: mask on. He's like the heel. Ray, dude, you could
Speaker 1: don't even tell me you couldn't do something with this.
Speaker 1: If you can't think of anything to do with Dominic mysterio,
Speaker 1: then be telling me anything about wrestling. You don't get
Speaker 1: this business. Why don't they actually do him a favor
Speaker 1: and take him away from his father, and after they
Speaker 1: do that, they send him down to Joe Gacy because
Speaker 1: he wants to be a father figure for people, and
Speaker 1: he could be down in n x T and get
Speaker 1: a little bit more seasoning and work under that mask
Speaker 1: and become like something brand new. Because unfortunately, I think
Speaker 1: he may he uh unfortunately for him, may have been
Speaker 1: dominant masterio for too long and being on TV too
Speaker 1: early didn't help all that. I think Jingo here needs
Speaker 1: to putting masks on his hands so he can't type anymore.
Speaker 1: Type this stupid stuff in the chat. How could you
Speaker 1: compare Dominic Wheeler ut as a work bro It's fake,
Speaker 1: It's a story. The story is the heels seeing the
Speaker 1: guy is having a ton of potential. We're not comparing
Speaker 1: real life work. We're talking about a fake storyline. God
Speaker 1: help me, I'm yelling again. I gotta turned on the
Speaker 1: air n x T two boy knows tonight. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the rest of you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: review it tomorrow because I'm not travel Isn't that exciting?
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