WEBVTT - RAW Recap/Rampage Ratings 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.280 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:16.080 let's get it all. How's going to everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.000 here on or Wrestling Server Live. We are here every 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:22.520 day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.479 sixth Eastern. It is Tuesday here on this program, and 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.240 we've got a lot to talk about here today, including 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.600 Monday Night Raw last night. We'll talk about that later. 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:35.559 We've actually got a lot of other big news on 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:41.240 top of that. Becky Lynch, as noted, separated her shoulder 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.560 in that match with Bianca bell Air and now unfortunately 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.640 it looks like she's expected to be out several months. 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:52.240 And so two things. Number one, it does not appear 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:57.080 with a minor shoulder separation, and number two, holy smokes, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:02.080 she is tough. I'll talk about this more after the break, because, uh, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.679 as I mentioned, I separated my shoulder twice wrestling, so 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.760 I've got I got a lot I can say about this. 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.920 One a w's first ever console game, now available for 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.720 preorder fifty nine nine US for all consoles and PCs. 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.920 We can tell you about that. More notes from Rick 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:26.960 Flair's last match, which took place on Sunday night, including 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.360 Flair appears to be okay. We're now two days after 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.080 the match and he seems to be all right, so 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:35.240 that's that's good news. Certainly didn't look all right in 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:40.280 the match. We have the Rampage ratings. I know people 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.720 don't like to talk a lot about ratings, but this 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.800 is a story. This show tanked, so we'll tell you 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.480 about that. We got SmackDown ratings as well. Brian Danielson 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.280 talks about the talking Smeck segment with the mids and 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.840 what the original plan was. It was all the work. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.560 For those of you that still cling to its being real, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.080 it was all a work, but it was not exactly 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:03.320 as I was supposed to go. So we'll tell you 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.280 about that n x T lineup for tonight. And as noted, 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.000 Raw on Monday Night, and I got something I gotta 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.639 say about Raw when you come back from the break, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:15.760 because there's a talking point all over the internet and 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.280 I'm just a little bit baffled by. And then we'll 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.040 get in all the other news, So stick around, everybody. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:35.080 Back in a moment Observer Live, you get a shiver 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.640 in the dog gets lighted in the pomp of me time. 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:48.200 It's not back in the show. Bran Elba is here 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:51.920 Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simperviv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.639 I got a lot of news we're gonna get into today, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.920 but I I gotta start with this because I've seen 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:03.519 this all over the internet, including on our board. I've 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:09.520 seen it on the chats here, and it is this, uh, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.040 this deal. You know, that Raw show last night wasn't 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.720 bad at all. It's actually a pretty good show. And 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.080 now the big talking point of the internet is, oh, 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:23.840 now everyone's gonna have to dissect every small little change 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:29.400 to the show. And you know, oh, you know, just 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.680 because it shows a little better doesn't mean it's great. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:37.360 And what listen to everybody, you all, everyone can have 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.280 their opinion about right. If you still don't want to 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:46.000 watch Raw, fine, okay, fine, But to get upset that I, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.360 for example, I'm excited about little changes on the show, 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.560 get out of here. I'm excited, dude, any positive little 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.760 change of that show I'm excited about. If you're not, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.720 that's fine, but don't get mad at me about it. Bro. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.720 I've been watching this show. I've been watching this show 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:08.200 since nineteen ninety one or whatever. This show debut. It 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:13.240 was right, whatever it was, I should know that since 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.400 we're reviewing the ninety three ros. But the point is, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:18.760 I've been watching this show since nineteen ninety three. I 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.040 was senior in high school. Now I'm practically I'm so security. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.560 I've been watching this show for a long time, and 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.239 at the beginning it was, you know, for the time, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:29.560 I enjoyed it. I was a kid. I watched the 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:31.720 shows and there was nothing to compare it to. It's 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:33.680 not like, you know, I wasn't getting tapes from New 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:36.360 Japan or anything or all Japan. Yet I was watching 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.920 the show and it was fine. Then we had the 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:42.599 Monday Night Wars and things rowesome. Then I had to 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:48.320 suffer through World Championship Wrestling. Then WCW got sold and 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.880 w w E screwed up this invasion. They ran off 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.200 millions of fans, and then the show wasn't what it 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.320 used to be. But it was all right because he 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:00.359 had a lot of talent. Yet Eddie Guerrero's and brock 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:03.320 Lesser's and curd Angles, and you know, I'm not supposed 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.480 to mention his name. But in the wrestling ring, Chris 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.560 ben Wap put on a lot of good matches. So 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.279 we had all that for a while, and then about 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.320 two thousand ten, two thousand eleven, it started to kind 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.120 of it wasn't as good as it used to be. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.799 Then we went to three hours, and yeah, three hours 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.120 is way too long. And for a little while it 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:24.120 was alright at three hours, but then you know, eight nine, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.400 ten months, twelve months later as shows just two damn long. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:38.040 And then and then the fall of eighteen coinciding, by 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.600 the way, with the eventual rise of Becky Lynch. But 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:47.039 the summer and fall of this show went off the rails. Why. 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.400 I don't know what happened to Evince. I don't have 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.520 any idea. Maybe we'll never know, Okay, but from eighteen 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:57.760 too they had mostly one. It got a little bit better, 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.400 you know, the last six months or so before they 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.800 got rid of Vince. But for at least three years though, 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:06.920 this show was so horrible, and I don't care what 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.679 anybody says. It was on par with not the worst 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.040 of w CW. Okay, but it was on par with 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.400 w CW when it was going down, and they were 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.279 lucky that they were idiot proof because it was so bad. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.960 And I ranted about this show for three years. What 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.840 a horrible show this was. I was begging for them 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.359 to get rid of Vents. Well finally they get rid 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.480 of the guy. And it's only been about two weeks now. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:38.960 But dude, it's better. It's not stupid, it's not nonsensical. Yeah, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.200 it's too long, and if you want to complain about 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.880 this little thing or that little thing, whatever, but dude, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:48.600 I'm gonna be excited about anything on this show that's better. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.520 I gotta watch it every week. You geeks on the 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.799 internet to watch your clips or whatever, and you watched 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.760 this here or there and you pontificate. I kinda watched 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:02.520 this show every single week. So bro, if there's five 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.960 camera cuts in one match last week and there's five 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.720 thirty nine this week, there's one less cut, you don't 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.800 have to celebrate that. But I am fallie. It's just 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:15.920 like n x T two point oh. And when NFT 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.800 two point o started, that show was abysmal. It was atrocious, 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:24.640 it was appalling, it was horrible. Now it's actually better. 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.800 I don't want to hear well. Better still sucks. Okay, fine, 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.920 don't watch the show. Then I gotta watch the show 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.960 every week, and the show is better, So I appreciate that. 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.040 Got it. What in the world happened to this world 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:39.720 where all of a sudden there was no such thing 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.880 as subjective opinions anymore. Everything had to be objective. If 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:44.400 I don't like it, you're not allowed to like it, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.560 and if you like it, there must be something wrong 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.840 with you. No, that's not how it is. Everybody has 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:52.360 an opinion. It's been like this for one point five 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.360 million years since man walked. There's one man who goes, no, 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.400 I don't think we should harness that fire. You're gonna 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.240 burn stuff down with that. What if we Why don't 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:03.800 we build a house out of sticks and that fire 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.200 burns house down. He had a dissenting opinion, But you 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:11.640 know what, the other day, at the end of the day, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:14.320 it was the right move to harness fire. I don't 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.040 know how I even got to that part. But the 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.600 point is, I like these changes too raw. I think 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.280 it's better, And I am gonna log every last single 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:24.440 positive thing about this show, and I'm gonna appreciate it 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.440 because I live a life of appreciation. Unlike some of 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:34.160 you any thoughts, Mike, No, God, what about those people 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.920 who would say, when he comes to n x T, 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.360 maybe it's because you've become conditioned to what they've been 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:43.120 giving you, and your values and your senses have slept. No, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.280 you want to go back. Why don't some of you 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.160 guys that think it's not better go back and watch, 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.640 you know, September, October, November of n x T two 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:51.719 point and then get back to me. That's all I'll 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.120 say about that. Now, let's talk about some news here, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.079 so I don't have to blow my stack anymore because 0:08:57.080 --> 0:09:01.079 I get hot because it's summer up here. Becky Lynch 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:05.160 will be out several months after suffering a shoulder injury. 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.040 Suffered it during the Bianca bell air match, had her 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:10.240 arm in the sling on Monday, and now she was 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.720 leaving for a while. Then they did an angle where Bailey, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.839 Kai and Sky I don't know what their name is 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.199 gonna be, but they gotta come over something they ran in. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.240 They beat her up. They hit her shoulder with a chair. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.960 She's out for a while. So, as I talked about 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.520 a couple of days ago, there's there's low grade and 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.400 uh in high grade shoulder separations. Koda, Bushy got the 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.200 worst kind you can get. It's been like, how long 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:33.719 has it been The Code of bush has been out 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:37.040 like eight months or something like that. He's still he 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.440 still can't lift weights, Okay, and who knows, I mean 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.560 this way, he may never come back if it's been 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:46.000 this long and he still can't lift weights. I don't know, dude. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.439 But I separated my shoulder twice. One was not too bad, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:54.080 one was really bad. And uh and one of those, 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:55.800 one of those times I separated, I had a match 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.800 the next day and it was with Buddy Wayne and 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:02.199 Richie Magnet, who are the lightest, easiest workers. And so 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.400 what happened was they jumped me at the bell and 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.760 I held my arm like this. I sold the entire match. 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:11.160 I didn't move my arm at all. They took care 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.000 of me, they protected me, and I think actually won 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:15.719 the tag team titles that night, believe it or not, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.120 which probably why he didn't take the night off. But anyway, 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.800 Becky didn't do that. She didn't put her arm like 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.599 this and not move her arm. Dude. She worked that 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:29.319 whole match and she she was up down, moving, lifting, throwing, bumping. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:36.880 That's she's the man. Yeah, I mean, holy smokes. And 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.719 she talked last night about the pain that she was 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.679 in and if you've never said her your shoulder, you 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.520 don't know that pain. But it sucks. And she made 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.280 it through that whole match because she heard her shoulder 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.360 early and she still made it through the entire match. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:53.600 So I mean, I got nothing but respect for Becky 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.880 making it through that match. The bad news is she 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:59.240 probably made it worse by doing that, quite frankly, so 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:01.679 you know there, they weren't gonna end the match when 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:03.599 she got hurt, but if they had, who knows, she 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:07.160 might have been back much sooner. But that's what they do, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:11.559 and that's what she did. And as Nuttie now, the 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.000 most important thing is just make sure you come back 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.360 when you're a hundred percent because the problem with things 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.240 like shoulders are once you do that makes it a 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.840 lot easier to have problems later on down the line. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.920 He got a cousin that would have issues with dislocated shoulders, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.000 would pop it out and back and just had all 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.800 sorts of issues once he had it separated. So just 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:37.360 hopefully she can be out for when she needs to be, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.719 because whenever she comes back, it's going to be, you know, 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:45.079 a welcome change of pace, but it's also now in time. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:49.439 We see Dakota Sky, we see Eo. Let's get this 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:57.760 woman's and Eo Sky Kayan Sky. Well, he said, Dakota Sky, 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.120 did I what do you? What do you something thing 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.280 with this group here? Because Eo Sky the queen of 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:10.000 the Sharai, they won't go back to never mind never mind, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.640 but look, get these some of these women up. Obviously 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.600 they're doing what they're doing now, which is a nice 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.520 change of pace, which is something no one can disagree 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.720 with you on. Back in a moment. A W video 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:43.880 game Observer Live Well, a w's first ever console video game, 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.080 is now available for pre order. Can first on Amazon, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.839 PS four, PS five, Xbox, p sne in Tennis Switch. 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.760 I don't know any these things are at least dated. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:13:00.640 Scember two is listed. 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He said that twice big team matches 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.280 feature a sequence of team maneuvers performed with simple commands. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.760 Don't know anything about video games. I couldn't. I couldn't 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.760 tell you, you know, anything passed about Super Mario Brothers 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:56.640 too over my heads. But do you ever do you 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.920 ever go to the arcade and play like w WF 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.480 Superstars or any But I went to the arcade. I mean, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:04.439 they didn't have that bag Russell Fest. The best I 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:09.040 could get to the arcade was pro wrestling with you know, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:14.160 star Man and the Amazon. It it chomped you and 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:15.760 in case you didn't know you were being chomped, they 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:17.760 put the word chomp on the screen as he's biting 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.320 your neck. But anyway, it was a very you know, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:25.120 it was like a one bit video game, so, uh, 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.120 there's a big thing for a w and they banked 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.800 a lot on this video game. As I think that 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:37.440 everybody is well aware. And obviously if it does great, 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:41.480 then that's great for a W and if it doesn't, 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:45.000 that would be bad. How's that from some analysis right there? 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.240 I know that's uh, that's common sense. But deep bro, 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:51.960 there was there was. There was millions and millions and 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:57.560 millions and millions of money that they dumped into this game. Yeah, 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.200 millions of money and times millions of of of dollars money, 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.400 you know, eight bit eight bit dollars. But anyway, hopefully 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:11.160 does well because let me tell you something. You know, 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:13.320 I don't want to be all doom and gloom, but 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:20.280 my god, this rampage number dude, Rampage in its normal 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.680 time slot and there was not a ton of competition, 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.080 did three hundred and seventy five thousand viewers a point 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:35.720 one one in eighteen to forty nine males twelve to 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:41.480 thirty four did a point oh two a point o 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:46.120 two And Dave had another stat last night that's not here, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:51.640 but I mean, and I think it was like thirty 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.680 four or something like that. I mean, it did like 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:56.720 lower than n x T two point I has ever 0:15:56.800 --> 0:16:03.720 done this show died and I don't know where all 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:08.000 the kids watching the roast of Ric Flair. No, that's 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:11.520 not what happened. What happened was they didn't want to 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.080 watch this show. What happened was the thing that we've 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.120 been talking there. There there are two factors here that 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:18.600 we've been talking about for a while. One of those 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:24.840 is they were preempted so often that you know that 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.440 I'm sorry, you were right about habits, But Brian, come on, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.000 I said, there's two things. Can I get through the 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:36.040 two things? One is that they got bumped around so 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.560 often that there were people that just got out of 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.480 the habit of watching on Fridays. That's one, And the 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.960 other thing is, dude, this is not an A show. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:49.680 This is not a B show. This is uh C 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.600 show at that and you know there's good wrestling. But 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.200 we we talked about this the other like two weeks 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.280 ago on the Brighton V Show. I enjoy the show. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:05.440 I enjoy watching Rampage, but there's nothing must see about it. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.679 And you know, one of the things that no one 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:13.960 ever mentions, but but but I I'm gonna mention it here. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.399 So a lot of people talk about live and tape 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.680 to this day. Oh well, you know, a tape show 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.680 is not gonna do as well as live show. And 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:23.600 the fact of the matter is they do it the 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.879 same if if you if you tape Rampage or if 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.480 you air Rampage live, if you tape Dynamite or you 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.160 do Dynamite live, it's gonna do virtually the same number. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.639 And the funny thing is, more often than not, the 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.560 tape show does a little bit better than the live show. 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:43.920 But we have this thing dating back to the Monday 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.680 Night Wars that if you tape a show it's not 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:49.399 going to do as well. That's not true. But to me, 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.480 here's the key. It doesn't matter if it's live or taped. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.080 If a fan tuning in doesn't know if it's live 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.080 or taped. Okay, if you if you go raw, if 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.960 you're alive with raw, and then the next week you 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:07.320 go live to tape to raw and you air it, 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.520 and you know, your average person that doesn't know anything 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:11.880 just watching it looks exactly the same. It doesn't matter 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:15.119 one bit. But there's a thing about Dynamite where the 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.680 way that they cram things into that show and the 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:23.159 way that they put the show together, it feels like 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.440 a tape show. It doesn't feel like a live show. 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.960 We we you know, the show begins, there's already a 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.400 match in the ring, and then the match is over. 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.600 And there's just something about the show where it feels 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.840 like a taped, pre produced show. And I do think 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.880 that that hurts people's interests in the show. That does 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.920 keep people from thinking it's an a show, not because 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.359 it's taped, but because it feels like a tape show 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:53.119 that was put together as content on a Friday night. 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.560 That is not going to get people clamoring for this show, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.919 especially with some of the lineups they've had for Rampage. Remember, 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:01.560 people will get mad when I would read the lineup 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.480 because they thought I was given away spoilers and everything 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.680 like that. I haven't heard that in a while. I 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.080 haven't even bothered to do faunt Leroy. I don't know 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.400 what the I don't know what's happened, and I don't 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.280 know what the solution is. I have a couple of theories, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.639 But do you have any thoughts? First, everything you just 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:23.439 said negates why the whole deal about it being knocked 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.639 out of position so many times there's not a steady 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:30.080 diet of stars. It does something about it doesn't feel right, 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.679 and I and I absolutely know what you mean. When 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.920 it comes to the production there, there's nothing happening on 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.240 it that resonates outside of that show that really sends 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.600 a ripple effect. And they have got to do that 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.560 because they did lose all that time. But you've had 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.239 plenty of time now where your show on Wednesdays doing 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.920 between nine hundred thousand and a million people the same 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.080 way it was when it's at its peak, at its best. 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.760 You need to figure out where to turn those people 0:19:55.800 --> 0:19:59.159 on Friday, because that's where you're stuck. That's where you 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.879 stuck yourself. That's the deal. So you need to figure 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.479 out how to make this work. And how you make 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:08.639 it work? Is it making it live more often and 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.919 and eating that production cost and eating the building cost 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:17.399 so you can generate some buzz behind it? Is it? 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.040 And I'm not saying keep Brian Danielson or or somebody 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.000 off of Dynamite, but like really making sure that there 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:31.600 are are names people wanted, Danielson, Punk, whoever moves a needle, Moxley, 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:36.280 whoever it is right now, Orange, whatever those people around there, 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:41.439 maybe a big match, a title defense or so whatever 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.600 goes on there and it's built. Something has got to 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.320 give because if you can't get off of Friday, you 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.320 have to stop using the excuse while it was out 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.360 of position for song, because that doesn't matter there their 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:56.440 own are there, hold on if their DVR number is 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.879 Dynamite on Saturday morning, that's a little bit of a 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.360 different story. It. If you're not giving your own fan 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:03.320 base any reason to go over there, and they're not 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.520 looking at for any reason to go over there, you 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.439 can complain about we were knocked out of position all 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.879 you want. You've had all of this time and people 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:15.120 are still not buying. That's that's the bookmaking. That's all 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.320 of that stuff. It's not being knocked out of position 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.280 in the habit. Not now it's been too long. No listen, 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.960 here's the point. It's all of those things. And here's 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.720 the issue. If that thing gets knocked out of position 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.480 and you don't watch it because it was preempted, and 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.960 then you watch Dynamite, and then the next week you 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.600 don't watch it because it was preempted, and you watch Dynamite. 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:38.280 But there's two things. There's two things that are gonna happen. 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.440 Number One, you're gonna get out of the habit of 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.840 watching on Friday nights. That's number one and number two, 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.520 you're gonna realize, well, I don't need to watch the 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.600 show because I missed it the last two weeks. It 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:54.560 was pre empted and it didn't affect my my like 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:56.520 somebody here goes, well, you know they did shoot an 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.760 angle that set up Chris Jericho and Utah for the 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:01.879 title shot on Wednesday. Yeah, they did. They did shoot 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.680 an angle on the show. But if you didn't watch Rampage, 0:22:07.320 --> 0:22:11.800 does missing the angle setting up that match affect your 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:16.080 your inner your your interest in Dynamite one bit? No, 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:19.240 you tune in a Dynamite, you find out that they 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.800 set up a match between Jericho and Utah and if 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:23.479 you two wins, he gets the title shot and get 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:26.520 some moxie. But you don't need to watch Rampage for that, 0:22:26.760 --> 0:22:28.840 So it doesn't matter that. My point is, it doesn't 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.159 matter that they shot an angle on the show. You 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.000 couldn't miss it, and it doesn't matter. But if you 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.240 gave them a steady diet of that and a reason 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.560 to tune in and a reason to oh, something's going 0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:41.800 to happen here and get people out of that malaise. 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:43.600 I mean, that's their job now. Is to get people 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.520 out of that malaise, and they haven't done it. And 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.200 it's got that comes from booking, that comes from what 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.080 you're putting on the screen. And yes, the stuff from 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:54.040 before about people getting out of that, but that was 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:55.919 a part of that. But they knew when they were 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:57.719 coming back on, and they knew when they were going 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.320 to have clear sailing. And have they taken a vantage 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.159 of that time in the last what has it been 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:07.000 now two months to full months? No, they have it 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.560 period point blank. I You're welcome to think that we're 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.359 going to disagree, but it does happen. You get out 0:23:13.400 --> 0:23:16.040