1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Let's head to Hong Kong now and join in the 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: current Bloomberg's Chief Asia Economics correspondent. Always a lot to 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: talk about with Enda, but we're looking at these intervention 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: warnings across Asia. The Bank of Korea going to buy 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: up to two point one billion dollars of sovereign debt, 6 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and Indonesia and Japan, as we know, have stepped in 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: to defend their currencies to so just tell us, I 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: guess the flow on effects of the FED tightening here 9 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: across Asia. Yeah, we do. You seem to be in 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: a cycle now where the central banks are actively having 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: to push back and fight against markets. Like you mentioned, 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: they're either intervening to buy bond securities to keep down 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: borrowing costs, or the intervening on the in the foreign 14 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: exchange markets like we saw with Japan last week when 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: I intervene, the government of Japan intervened to buy its 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: own currency for the first time. Since it's not just 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: an Asia phenomenon. Of course, we've seen the big dramatic 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: news overnight with the Bank of England also having to 19 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: intervene and by securities that the government, the British government 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: sells there. So it's a powerful force. It's a powerful 21 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: pushback when you have all of these monetary monetary authorities 22 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: intervening markets. But does raised the question about ultimately who 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: will win here, because if you're talking about fundamentals which 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: are pointing to you know, securities moving in an ongoing 25 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: direction will end. The view is that just little central 26 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: banks can do about that, and that was one of 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: the takeaways from the PBOC job awning the PBOUC job 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: wanning last time as well. PBC comment and said, listen, 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: you can't have a one way beat against you. One 30 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: need direction. That's fine, but some economists were responding by saying, 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: hang on, with the FED and PBUC going in such 32 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: opposite directions, and with the Chinese economy in the state 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: that it is, all of that obviously means that currency 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: should be weaker and that would make it very hard 35 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: for the PPUC to push back. Let's just get back 36 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: to the Bank of England because that has been a 37 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: huge shock, I guess to market participants. Bank of America 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: saying that essentially this is highlighted the impossible trinity of 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: liquidity issues that are plague in global interest rate markets. 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: Do you think the BOE has has done enough and 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: what could happen next. Well, let's say obviously now during 42 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: a curious set of circumstances, because you have a couple 43 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: of things happening at once. You have the government, you know, 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: put putting more money into the economy, bringing down taxes 45 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: and more and and pulling levers who support growth. You 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: have the central bank raising borrowing costs in an effort 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: to bring down inflation. But now you also have the 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: central bank stepping into the financial market to bring down 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: boring costs and ensure that the market has floated with 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: liquidity and to ensure that there is a financial crisis. 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: So you have the government and the central bank pulling 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: against each other. But even within the central bank, you 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: have the central bank pulling against central bank because it's 54 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: doing two different things at the same time. So look, 55 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: it's clearly and modeled policy there at the moment. It 56 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: probably at the very least does suggest in the case 57 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: of the UK, that the Bank of England will have 58 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: to hike interestrates by a big amount whenever they when 59 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: they do meet the next sor if they decide to 60 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: go ahead of the meeting. Most anilests now seem to 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: be talking about maybe a big one hundred Bates points 62 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: hike there to try and push back against the inflation impact. 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: But as I say, rightly or wrongly, without getting into 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: the politics politics or the ideology of a policy mix, 65 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: the end result is that the markets are seeing it 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: as a model, they are rejecting it, and now you 67 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: have policy pulling in different directions and are always a pleasure, 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Thank you and the Karen is Bloomberg's chief Asia Economics 69 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: correspondent with us in our Hong Kong studios