WEBVTT - Draft Show: Slight of Hands 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:08.360 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.240 war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:16.160 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Frisco, 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:22.599 Dallas Cowboys, Tyler Smith and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:30.280 Today is Wednesday, February twenty second, twenty twenty three. We 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.839 are sixty five days away from the NFL Draft in 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.600 Kansas City, and we welcome you into the Draft Show, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:39.519 presented by Miller White here from the Star in Frisco 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:43.280 and the s WBC studios. We have got a packed 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.400 house tonight for a couple of reasons. Because we're back 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:48.640 with Brian Protus, We're back with Bobby Belt, We've got 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:51.720 Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.920 and introducing for the first time ever on the Draft Show, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.960 one of five three the fans very own Zach Waltz. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.279 How's it going. It's going great. What's going on. It's 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.319 a pleasure to be here, very show. Thank you very much. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.080 You've been studying, of course, I've been studying you kidding 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:10.800 made ready to go. I gotta work across from you 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:13.440 every day on the back. So you've been putting the 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.680 pressure on. Yeah, hard out here. You gotta get this 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.160 thing going. Man. Yeah, you guys do radio from two 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:23.160 to seven weekday, Monday through Friday. How much is that 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.759 as draft talk? We wish a lot more, not enough. Yeah, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.760 we really, we honestly could have. You know, we could 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.040 have a show of five hours of draft talk. I 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.479 think we could. You know, I think that people are 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.759 that interested, especially you know, the one thing I always 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:41.240 talk about this show is the one stop shop where 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.399 you know, if you're a Cowboy fan, if you're a 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:45.560 Buccaneers fan, whatever, you can come and listen to this 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.880 show and get draft talk. I think you could do 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.000 the same thing on the radio, but you have to 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.160 and of course you have to talk about the Rangers 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.520 and the MAVs and you know, but when when the 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.560 time comes when you get to the combine and we're 0:01:57.640 --> 0:02:00.360 right there that combined week and then to get the 0:02:00.360 --> 0:02:02.880 pro days and stuff, and it starts to get closer 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:05.920 to the draft, you could feel the station start to 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.639 ramp that thing up. And so yeah, I think you 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:10.799 gotta be a little bit careful about it. But man, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.320 me personally, I could talk to draft five hours a day. 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:14.959 Will you hear that beam. We're gonna do it five 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.919 hours today. So well you're gonna get from eleven to four. Yeah, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.600 you're gonna get to uh you're you're gonna get to 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.959 do that in the end end of April. Right, yeah, 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.560 that's true. Yeah, you'll be fine. I'm Carlotas. Yeah, so 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.320 you've listened to the Draft Show a couple years right? 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.400 Oh heck, yes, are you kidding me? I grew up 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.560 on the Draft Show. This is this is awesome. I'm 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.519 stoked to be here with you. Obviously u nt brethren. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.920 You and I've done a lot of work together Kyle 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:41.400 so and getting to work with Brian and Bobby at 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.359 one oh five through the fan love the work that 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.799 Aish has been doing as well. So this is a 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.800 dream come true to get to be a part of 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.480 the Draft Show. I've always been a draft nerd, and 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.760 I've been watching Brian from afar, and I've always wanted 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.640 to get into the broadest school of scouting. So this 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.800 is my first year getting to be under his tutelage. 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:01.000 And we'll see. I'm expecting him to kinda to bust 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:03.280 on me a little bit, and I'm gonna give it 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.320 back as well. I know there's already a couple of 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.760 players that we disagree on. I can't wait. Let's do it, 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.000 Let's get into it. Absolutely. Combine starts next week. We 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:15.760 will be out there starting on Mondays when I get there, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.000 and we've got a couple ideas of how this is 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.640 going to work heading into next week. But Bobby, I 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:24.560 mean you hearing anything any rumblings around the Cowboys before 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.560 we really get into some of these draft prospects. Well, 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.120 it's funny. I was. I was actually just talking to 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:33.200 Zach as we were both driving in, and I was like, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.040 I gotta start sorting some of this out a little 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.680 bit better, start hitting up some people what they're what 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.400 they're feeling, what they're seeing, So trying to get that situated, 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.240 trying to because I was late in the game and 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.200 this one now I'm trying to decide if I'm gonna 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.600 drive or if I'm gonna pay the premium one week 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.720 out flight ticket. So that's what I'm figuring out out now. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.560 But no, I think, you know, I'm excited to see 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:01.080 how some of the corners test, you know, I think 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:02.520 that that's gonna be a big thing for me. Some 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.520 of these receivers and just in general. Combine such a 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.080 good week for not just draft stuff, but you heard 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.760 so much about the free agency angle and what's happening there, 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:12.880 and you get a better idea after talking to some 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.640 people throughout the week of just hey, where does this stand? 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.000 What do you guys think of this guy? I think 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.760 starting week after next is when I think we're gonna 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.039 be able to come in here and have a really 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.080 good idea about some of the things that they feel. Yeah, 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.400 a lot of clarity, like I want to even so 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.440 with the combine, I'm excited about just seeing what guys 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.040 maybe have improved because there were gentlemen that I saw 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:35.880 in the Senior Bowl that I was watching tape on 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.560 before and I was like, Okay, well you weren't doing 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.520 that that well, you know before. So the combine is 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.200 a time where I think you can really start to 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:45.960 separate who's doing what and whatever. So I'm excited about 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:49.960 it too. You get that early gathering of information. Everybody 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.240 does it as scouts, and we're still kind of in 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.360 that scenario of the draft where you're trying to pull 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.279 in as much as everything you can you can you 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.080 can pull in. It's like drinking from a firehose. But 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.080 then you get to the combine and it's more of 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:05.080 the reinforcement of what you've heard before, right, Brian, And 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.440 you get to start having those conversations. Yeah, I think 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:12.480 the one one we have advantages and we have disadvantages 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.280 to the job we do here in the draft show 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.440 is the purest form of scouting we do. We get 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.839 to evaluate the tape, you know. We I issue gets 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.279 to sit down and she watches her defensive tackle from 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:28.160 you know, from you yeah, Wiscontisconsin. Yeah, we all have 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.159 our people that we watch, and that's the purest form. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.600 You go to the combine, and after the combine you 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.599 start to hear that maybe, well, this guy's got a 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.440 medical issue, or this guy's got a issue off the field, 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:43.240 or this guy you know, I know Todd McShay went yesterday, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.120 he went full on talking about you know, Carter, the 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:49.599 defensive tackle from Georgia. Well there's some character flaws there, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.040 you know, And you're like, oh, okay, now I have 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.560 to ask my you know, buddies around the league. They're 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:58.359 really character flaws here. So you know that's going to 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.600 affect Like I say, I love the act. We get 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.360 to evaluate, and it's the purest form. We're just looking 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.000 at the players. The combine kind of fills in that 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.320 medical the interviews, and then it kind of is that 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.280 it puts the pie a little bit. The pro day 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.200 will be the final piece of the pie, and then 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.039 once you kind of get all that information, you could 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.640 kind of stack your board the way you need to 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:21.520 do it. Carter does have maturity concerns. Oh no, where 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.719 are you hearing that from. I'm that's something that I 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.520 heard all the way back in the fault. Not bad stuff, 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:26.960 just more like I kind of grow up, kind of 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.719 a young kid type of thing. Not anything that would 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.800 scare people off. It doesn't sound like still a top 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.640 ten pig. Yeah yeah, oh yeah, No, it didn't sound 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:34.200 like it was anything go would chase anybody off. It's 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:35.320 just like, yeah, I'll have to grow up a lot. 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:38.200 I hear differently. I'm thinking he's slid into twenty six. 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.359 Let's do it. I've heard it's terrible wink wing. Oh darn, 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.400 he I guess he's gonna end up there. Sorry, Maybe 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.760 that would be nice, would your dream? That would be fantastic. 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.240 We went through some scenarios last Thursday where it was 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.839 first and second round pairings, back and forth of what 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:00.599 you could do position wise. We got a lot of 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.440 good feedback on it, so I thought we'd do something similar, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.240 But it's more so of a would you rather around 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:09.560 the purest forum of scouting around watching the tape, So 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.240 based off of the tape, based off of the scenarios 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.040 that we've been given already, here are some different options 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.520 that I want you to choose one or the other. 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.600 Would you rather scenario number one early round corner Deontay 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:28.320 Banks from Maryland or Tyreek Stevenson from Miami. So this 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.000 is either a late first round early second round selection. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.960 I'll start with you. I don't look at me. Who 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:38.280 would you rather have? Well, I haven't gotten into Stevenson 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:43.240 okay yet, that's fine? Would Deontay Banks? I was, so 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:44.680 I'll tell you the things that I was impressed with, 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.400 and then the other I was literally just talking to 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.880 my homie about this. But so I wasn't impressed with 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.600 his ability to flip his hips. His speed seems real. 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.200 That's why when you talk about the combine, I want 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.640 to see if he has if that translates, if that 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:01.600 makes sense, like because he looks fast on the field. Um, 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.800 and I think he also understands he has I think 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:07.080 he has good body control. He doesn't take the ball 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.400 away like that though. I think me and my homie 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.680 Matt Own were saying like he had two picks and 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.800 like eight hundred naps or something. Yeah, and then also too, 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:18.880 I'm not sure he is and he doesn't. He comes 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.680 out of the game often, like we were just talking 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.040 about how they rotate him in in and out so 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.480 much and for a corner that's I mean, I'm not 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:30.960 saying that's not normal, but it's not. It's not It's 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:32.640 not a guy that I would be like, Okay, well, 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:34.480 this is a I don't know if he's a first 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.600 round guy. They're thinking that he'll run like a four 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.800 or five Brian, which would be like right middle of 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.319 the pack, which is weird because his foot his hip 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.240 turn is so nasty, plays faster than that. That's what 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:46.319 and that's what I was saying. I'm curious about his 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.400 but like, I just don't know, Like I think he's 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.960 a good player and stuff, I'm just not I didn't 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.280 see like, oh, this guy take the ball away constantly 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.160 and things like that. I just didn't see that what 0:08:55.160 --> 0:09:00.440 do you think that sorry, she did a good with you. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.400 I think Deontay Banks is better than Stevenson. Stevenson, I 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.120 think I think Stevenson's a little grabby for me. Now, 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:11.199 steven Yeah, well Banks. I love the way Banks uses 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.080 the sideline to his advantage. And Banks, to me, I 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:16.880 think speed is something to his game that he uses 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:18.600 really well. Now, one thing I did right down, and 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.560 this is something where I think all Cowboy fans are 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.600 looking at now because of Treyvon Digs in the season 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.199 that he had. I don't think he's a set the 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.520 edge type of corner, right. He's a guy that I 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.880 don't think is a dude that necessarily is always showing 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.000 the willingness to want to stick his face in there 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:34.800 and tackle. But I do love his ability in terms 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.600 of being a press player. I do think when he 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.240 plays off he'll give up some plays underneath. I think 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.120 he's better when he presses and plays up and he's 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.160 able to be physical at the line of scrimmage. Now, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:48.600 Tyreek Stevenson to me, I watched more of his twenty 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.280 twenty one compared to his play last season, and I 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.960 think he did improve a lot more this year. But 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.040 I think he does make a little bit more plays 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.199 on the ball than Banks does, but I think he 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:01.920 is a little bit more of a well rounded player 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.079 for me, I'll tell you what, man. Yeah, you guys 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.120 are on your game already this morning. I love it. Yeah, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.040 I you know what, I thought Stevenson might be a 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.400 guy to be a free safety. I really did. When 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:15.200 he's six one, he's two hundred and fourteen pounds, and 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.480 I kind of felt like that maybe that he would. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:19.560 You know, he's kind of like he plays like almost 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.800 like a safety with cover skills and the movement and 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.000 the assignments and the off coverage that you know, when 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.440 like teammates bust, he's over there to kind of clean 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.840 up things. So you see a guy, when you see 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.520 a guy, he plays with that kind of awareness to 0:10:33.640 --> 0:10:37.079 his game. And so I was thinking, like, man, this 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.520 guy maybe I would move. He's a transfer from Georgia, 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.880 which is interesting. George I think does a good job. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.280 We've seen every defensive player that it seems like we're 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.600 watching is a Georgia player. But this guy does have 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.360 really really good overall ball skills. I mean, he'll go 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:54.320 get it. So I like that about Stevenson personally though 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.120 I said I would. I would if you gave me 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.440 a choice. Though, if you gave me a choice of 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.880 one or the other, there I'll take Banks over Stevenson. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.160 But I mean, I think it's a pretty good I 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.080 think it's a pretty good comp When you start to 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.720 talk about the two players, what about the teammate, What 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.720 about Sydney Brown? Did he stand up? I'm just saying 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.480 I was watching Illinois film and Sydney Brown was sticking 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.720 out to me more than Deante sometimes. No, not like 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.800 y'all haven't seen. I call him Swiper. Swiper, Yeah, call 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:25.920 him because I like that, because of the size that 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.200 he can just kind of hide behind guys. He's sneaky. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.120 He reminds me of I talked about him a few 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.880 weeks ago. He reminds me of a Funka. Is that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:34.959 his name. Yeah, he reminds me a lot of him. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:36.520 But I think he's a little bit he's I think 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.840 he's a little bit more physical and better in coverage. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.920 But Sydney Brown another guy in Illinois team, this Illinois defense, 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:43.680 I was impressed by them. I felt like they're really 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:48.480 they're uh not not Illinois. My bad. Yeah, Maryland I'm 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:50.600 actually getting the mixed up. I'm thinking about Devin Witherspoon. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:53.840 My bad, but yeah, my bad. So you think the 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.120 description you just gave him was about Witherspoon is what 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.120 you're talking Yeah? I was, Actually I was talking about 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:02.080 let's talk about Devin Witherspoon. Okay, I like, yeah, yeah, No, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.480 I like what you're doing here. I do, go ahead, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.599 But did you see Witherspoon at all? I've watched Witherspoon 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:12.040 first on on Banks, Banks and Stevenson. I don't think 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.680 that's close to me personally. Yeah, I think Banks is 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.480 much better than Entyrek Stevenson. Tyrek Stevenson's gonna have to 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.400 be press man only to me at the next level, 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.839 just because he's when you watch him play in in Zone, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.120 I just don't know that he has the awareness, and 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.839 he looks like he has a lot of men I 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:28.960 start him like dropping off in helping though, So I 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:31.320 kind of felt like he did have the awareness and 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.120 I saw it looked like and to be fair, I 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.120 don't always you're not always gonna know who's responsible, but 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.480 it looked like he was directly involved in some sort 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.720 of miscommunication or busts. A lot in zone from what 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.280 I saw. But I think that like Deonta Banks, somebody 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:50.160 who completely scheme versatile. I think the play strength, the size, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.920 the speed, the fluidity, all of it's really good. He's 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.760 not gonna be the the area where he is going 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.320 to need to improve is He's not gonna be a 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.200 Trey Von Diggs like pickoff artist Banks, because I mean, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.280 it's just he He hasn't shown that sort of anticipation. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.280 He doesn't show that sort of recognition. But I think 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.040 that Banks, to me, is the safer, more sol pack especially. 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.800 Can you tell me I can play Banks opposite Diggs 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.120 and kind of get that planned, then I feel really 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.640 good about Deonte Banks. I think it'd be a fun 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.200 one two combo in the secondary here. And so Banks 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:23.720 Banks Banks, Banks over Tyreek Stevens Sound from Miami and 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.840 an honorable mention from Devin Witherspoon Alan Ellen as well. 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:31.320 All Right, scenario number two day two wide receivers, which 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.920 is a possibility for this Cowboys team and a couple 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.240 of guys that have been at least names floating out 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.320 there that maybe have some interest from the guys across 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:44.080 the hallway. Josh Josh Downs from North Carolina former tar 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.360 heel is your first option. The second option it's Parker 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.800 Washington from Penn State. If you've one man, you've kicked 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.400 guys that are the same kind of body time the 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:56.760 same scenario. And I did that on purpose. So, Zach, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.760 what do you think about those two guys? Who Downs 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:00.640 is a guy that they move all around the formation 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.760 there with North Carolina. Now, he's fun. I think he's 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.960 got a really sexy stutter step at the top of 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:09.160 his route. He sets up dvs really well. He's fast, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.400 he's a fun slot player, works in the middle of 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.360 the field well on drags and slants. He's explosive. But 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.920 I'll tell you this, you watch Parker Washington against Ohio State, 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:20.240 you can fall in love with that kid. I mean, 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.280 he's got an ability to extend his body. The body 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:26.040 control is really really good. He's a hand catcher. This 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.920 is not a guy that's a that's a Terrence Williams right, 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.120 He's not a body catcher. This dude's gonna go and 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:34.360 get the get the football. Strong hands catches the ball 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:37.640 in traffic. I think between these two, I think maybe 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:39.840 Downs could do more for you. But I was more 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:44.160 impressed watching Parker Washington. I think I'd leave Washington here, Brian. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.960 I know you brought up Parker Washington previously. Yeah, he's 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.080 Steve Smith to me, guys man, when I'm back in 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.400 the day from Utah, Steve Smith third round player. Though, goodness, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.320 I mean this cat he's five ten, he's two ten. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.520 That's where I'm working on a problem, right there. You 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.440 know the thing about it in the same thing you 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:02.920 could say about Downs, Downs is like five to eleven. Yeah, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:06.560 I believe I've got him at five ten and two eight, right, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:08.680 I guess a quarter five? Yeah, Okay, there you go. 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.520 So I mean the thing about Washington, he is compact, 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.280 he's explosive. He does a lot of that work you're 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.280 talking about in the slot. He can make a ton 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.400 of plays because he's gonna go all over the field. 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:22.880 The length will be a problem, but I mean he 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:26.440 do see him extend to his absolute fullest to go 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.520 get these footballs. The route runner with quickness in and 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.400 out of break, stop start, quickness, impressive run after catch. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.400 This guy's a punt returner as well, so he knows 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.840 how to operate in traffic as well. I put a 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.640 note down because we're talking about the combine. I'm excited 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.000 to see what he runs his forty because he could 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.960 end up being one of these burner towns, both of them, 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.000 but Washington specifically because he's a guy. We talked about 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.280 the lack of separation this year for the Cowboys at 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:55.960 receiver Parker Parker Washington because if his starts stop quickness, 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.840 he's able to separate from DBS. Let's see what they're 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:03.560 maybe projecting him to run. Looks like a four mid 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.840 four fourth. I was hoping. I was hoping for baby 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.440 a little bit better. But the tape don't lie right 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.720 and he plays fast seat. How are you sure? What 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.560 do you think about those guys? I just think it's fun. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.920 I just I'm at a point till where I think 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.520 we talked about it last week. Is is he a player? 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.960 Is he a player? Like the size thing, especially with 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.560 this receiver class, seems like it's gonna be a discussion 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.520 to some degree anyway, But can the guy? Can the 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:32.840 guy play the game at a high level? And Josh Downs? 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:37.240 Between Josh Downs and Washington, I feel like, obviously both 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.800 of them have slotability and they're able to work the slot. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.720 But the guy that has the most versatility to meet, 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.040 Like you said, is why is Washington at this point? 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.480 I really feel like he can come in and he 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.360 can make a difference. And when you mentioned the special 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.960 teams thing like that might be a huge bargaining factor 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:54.880 in my opinion for some of these teams trying to 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.000 get better in the league on special teams. So I'm 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.160 looking at Washington as a guy that can come in 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.920 and do something for you immediately. I think Josh Downs 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.840 can do the same thing, but there's some versatility. The 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:07.080 thing that the lack of bulk when you watch Josh Downs, 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.600 the lack of bulk bother you. Hell, he like one 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.560 hundred and seventy five pounds, it don't it don't scare 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.040 me because he can Yeah, he can play. But no, no, 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.760 you're right about the playability. You're no, You're absolutely dead 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:22.719 on about the playability. The thing about it is, man, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.919 there's a lot of these receivers in this drafted Are 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:29.040 that one seventy five one eight Flowers? Yeah? Yeah, there 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.720 are a lot of those guys that I mean, and 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:36.360 you're just I'm just not used to seeing slight right, Bill, 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:37.800 Why And you can say the same the same thing 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:41.880 about Hyatt from Tennessee. Kind of a slight, bil linear guy, 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:44.440 and he's still got at least ten pounds on Downs. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.160 It's funny because you look at Zay Flowers and Downs 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.040 their body type, they're almost identical. They're both five ten 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:52.320 and a little bit, and it's they're listed at one 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.160 seventy five each. Yeah. No, I mean that's what there's 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.960 not a name. It's if if Josh Downs was a 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:00.760 little bit better route run or he would be he's 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.919 a Flowers, right, but he's he's a Flowers with you know, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.040 not as precise route running as what I mean, it's 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.720 the same questions. It's the size, it's the limitations in 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.159 terms of where he can line up, it's the drops, like, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.120 it's the same sort of issues. Flowers is just a 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.800 more precise route runner. I think Josh Downs has the 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.720 ability to, like he's got the skill set to be 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.080 a really good route runner, but like somebody's gonna, I 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.879 think to have to kind of like coach him up 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:24.879 on it. Just it doesn't always look totally crisp to me. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.600 When he's running arounds. The fluidity and everything else is there, 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:29.960 but in terms of the precision, I think he needs 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.440 to improve there all, right, scenario number three, late day 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.520 two linebackers. I'm thinking like right around the third round, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:39.240 maybe even trade up into the early third to get 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.240 these guys. I'll start with you Bobby de Over shown 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.400 from Texas or Noah Soul from Oregon at linebacker. Which 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:51.000 one you like better? Oh? Um, they're different types of players. 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.639 They're a little bit different. They're they're very down for me, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.320 but they're they're different in the sense that, like I 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.600 think Noah Soul can take on blocks, he can dead blocks, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:02.960 he can he can play the more traditional linebacker to me, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.240