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Speaker 1: Welcome to this League uncut.

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Speaker 2: Rule of twenty four hour NBA News.

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Speaker 1: This you Chris Haynes. It's go time, Mark Stein.

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Speaker 2: It's so time.

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Speaker 1: Cut.

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Speaker 2: This League Uncut is underway in on fire. This should

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Speaker 2: be a good one. Yes, indeed, another good one on

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Speaker 2: the way, a fresh episode of this League Uncut. Mark

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Speaker 2: Stein here with Chris Haynes. Conference finals historic conference finals historic,

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Speaker 2: not in a great way though, with the potential of

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Speaker 2: two sweeps. Has never happened in the sixteen team playoff era.

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Speaker 2: This is actually season number forty of the sixteen team

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Speaker 2: playoff format that the NBA introduced in nineteen eighty three

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Speaker 2: eighty four. Never at this stage have we had a

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Speaker 2: potential for sweeps in both the West and the East finals.

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Speaker 2: And we will get to that, all with Chris Haynes,

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Speaker 2: who was attending and covering the Western Conference finals. But

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Speaker 2: I think we should start. We're recording this not on

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Speaker 2: Sunday night like we usually do. We're recording it on

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Speaker 2: a Monday afternoon because of various reporting duties. And this morning,

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Speaker 2: Monday morning, we were greeted by a rather newsy video

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Speaker 2: from Carmelo Anthony announcing his retirement. Not totally unexpected, because,

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Speaker 2: of course, Carmelo Anthony did not play this season. He

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Speaker 2: was not able to find the roster spot somewhere that

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Speaker 2: he badly wanted. But when a well crafted player announcement

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Speaker 2: comes out direct from the legend in question, and it's

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Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony himself telling us that he is indeed walking

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Speaker 2: away from the game, it still strikes a chord. It

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Speaker 2: still makes people wistful and naturally gets everybody thinking about

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Speaker 2: their favorite Mellow moments. Mister Haynes, did you cross paths

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Speaker 2: with Mellow at all this season? Did you run into

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Speaker 2: him anywhere? I haven't seen him honestly in ages.

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't.

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Speaker 3: The last time I spoke to Carmelo he came on

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Speaker 3: my pod last year, I want to say a little

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Speaker 3: bit over a year ago, when I was with Yahoo.

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Speaker 1: At the time.

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Speaker 2: You had a pod before this, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I did. I did. That was the last time I

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Speaker 3: But the last time I saw him in person, I

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Speaker 3: want to see what had to been when he was

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Speaker 1: No, no, playing with the Lakers. I'm tripping playing with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the last time we I saw him

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Speaker 1: So always always a stand up dude. Man. The dude

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Speaker 1: still could play, He still could hoop.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's always unfortunate when guys retired, not because

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Speaker 3: their skill set isn't good enough to be on a roster,

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Speaker 3: but just because.

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Speaker 1: Teams are going in a different direction.

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Speaker 3: Veterans aren't valued as much on teams like they used

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Speaker 3: to be. I believe, you know, Carmelo would have played

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Speaker 3: any role, any role asked. I think we're just in

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Speaker 3: the era again where veterans aren't valued like they used

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Speaker 3: to because they if they were a team like the

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Speaker 3: could kind of keep things in line, teach the youngsters

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Speaker 3: how to be NBA professionals, like you know, something like

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Speaker 3: what you Jonnas Hazen was doing in Miami, what DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Now, that is one of the most important jobs in

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Speaker 2: that guy. You're Eudonis Haslim, You're andre Iguodala, they're critical

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Speaker 2: and every team wants one. And look, Carmelo, his Rockets

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Speaker 2: career lasted all of ten games. I remember there was

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Speaker 2: a lot of fear at the time that he might

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Speaker 2: And you know, I know he played nineteen seasons in

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Speaker 2: to him to have that chance to play a twentieth season.

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Speaker 2: A nice round number, but let's be honest, this man's resume,

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Speaker 2: it really doesn't need embellishment. He's a top seventy five

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Speaker 2: was its own monster in itself. You know, I will

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Speaker 2: an absolute monster on the international stage. And you know, honestly,

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Speaker 2: you know, just loved talking to him. Didn't see him tons. Frankly,

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Speaker 2: for me, I covered him much more in international settings

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Speaker 2: just wasn't in this, you know what, you know so

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Speaker 2: you know I have. I didn't spend tons of time

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Speaker 2: He was in Oklahoma City for a year and that

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Speaker 2: was able to just see Mellow more that season. But

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Speaker 2: on the Team USA stage, I mean, you know, Foeba

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Speaker 2: Melo is a legend, and do not worry. He will

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Speaker 2: be a first ballot automatic Hall of Famer when he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not even up for debate. That's not even

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Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't get that elusive championship that superstars crave.

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Speaker 3: Players in general, but superstars, it means so much more

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Speaker 3: to their legacy to obtain that. But Carmelo man like

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Speaker 3: when you look at his play, he's one of the last,

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Speaker 3: of the throwbacks, the back to the basket, the pivots

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Speaker 3: athletic in his earlier years. You know, go back and

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Speaker 3: watch some of his highlights. He had a total package, definitely,

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Speaker 3: and so a lack of a championship should not diminish

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Speaker 1: And you know there's warts with you have warts with

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Speaker 3: Game of any player, any player of any mattitude, even

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Speaker 3: what he could actually bring to a table overall, bring

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Speaker 1: Stein, he's a good dude.

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Speaker 3: Man, Melo is a good dude, Like he's really like

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Speaker 3: if he didn't like something you wrote or something you said,

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Speaker 3: he'll hit you up. He'll hit you up and let

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Speaker 3: you know how he feels about that. I've had that

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Speaker 3: experience with him a few times and you respect it,

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Speaker 3: and you respect it because he's never came He's never

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Speaker 3: came out of pocket to me and Stein, that means

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Speaker 1: He's never he's never been disrespectful, never came at a.

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Speaker 1: Man. I got I got numb of love for Carmelo. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know you look at the last who Stein? Can

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Speaker 3: you name the members of the Banana boat crew? Give

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Speaker 3: me all the members Stein.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it? Lebron d Wade, Chris Paul and Mellow? Am

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Speaker 2: I leaving somebody out? Do we throw Gabby Union in there?

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Speaker 3: She's probably she's probably a captain of the of that

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Speaker 3: who's next? Well, Dwayne, Wayne was first Carmelo. Now who's next?

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Speaker 3: We have Chris Paul and Lebron James left, and I

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Speaker 1: But I believe those four members they are considered the

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Speaker 1: four members of the Banana boat crew, but I think

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Speaker 1: only three were on that boat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I honestly don't remember exactly who who was who

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Speaker 1: Did you wish she were on that Banana boat?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, just asking, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, love, I love the water, but I'm I.

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Speaker 3: See, I see the picture, the picture, So quiz I

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Speaker 3: got one, guess that's all I'm giving. Which player was

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Speaker 2: Boat, wasn't it Lebron?

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Speaker 3: would not be appropriate if anybody else was. Do you

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Speaker 2: See my memory sucks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, iconic Visil and I gave you one.

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Speaker 2: Guess it's okay, So it's crazy. Carmelo wasn't in the picture,

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Speaker 2: but he's synonymous with that group for sure.

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Speaker 1: That's his group. He's part of Banana Group, Banana Boat

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I said, the romantic being the basketball romantic

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Speaker 2: I didn't see Mellow as often as I would have liked,

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Speaker 2: but every time I caught up with him. A great

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Speaker 2: talker and a willing talker, which is what we want

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Speaker 2: most in our jobs. And incredible, incredible career, A beloved,

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Speaker 2: love to hear his thoughts about this Denver team, because

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Speaker 2: you know, before you know, the Nuggets did make the

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Speaker 2: Would love to hear kind of what he thinks of

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Speaker 2: this Denver run, because that series, you're that series you're covering, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I wrote it. I wrote it

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Speaker 2: And even in either series, the finals matchup is here,

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Speaker 2: it's heat Nuggets, and I give the Celtics zero zero,

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Speaker 2: you know, zero chance of being that first team in

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Speaker 2: NBA history to come back from O three down. The Lakers, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's give them some sort of mathematical chance, but I

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Speaker 2: just I don't see it. I think we can pretty

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Speaker 2: I think we can pretty much skip ahead to the finals.

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Speaker 3: You're you're given, So why you give the Celtic zero

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Speaker 3: and you give the Lakers a percentage?

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Speaker 2: I give the Lakers just the slightest bit of math

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, everyone points to Missoula and he's he's thirty four,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, Gary Washburn is alluding to some tensions

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Speaker 3: But I's I agree with you, but let's let's flip

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they brought in Joe Missoula again, they brought

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, it's gonna be and it's going to

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Speaker 2: nightly point differential over the last quarter century, it's typically

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Speaker 2: a really strong predictor of playoff success. That's one of

433
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Speaker 2: the lessons that I grudgingly have to hat tip that

434
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: I learned from Professor Hollinger in all our years together

435
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: at ESPN and I would do what we called the

436
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 2: human power rankings every Monday, and then Hollinger had the

437
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, his automated system for power rankings that that

438
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: would also that would run every day, and point differential

439
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 2: was a huge part of John's system. And you know,

440
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: and that's because when you really study point differential over

441
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: the years, you know, teams with a robust regular season

442
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: point differential tend to do well, but the Heat continue

443
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: to defy all reason with this team that's dealing with injuries,

444
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: the lowest scoring team in the regular season, this negative

445
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: nightly point differential, No Tyler Hero, no Oladipo, relying heavily

446
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 2: on Duncan Robinson and Max Struce. Caleb Martin and my

447
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: fellow Big West Conference alumnus gave Vincent and all this evidence,

448
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 2: all the statistical evidence that's supposed to say the Heat

449
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: are incapable of doing this, and here they are, one

450
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: win shy of another trip to the NBA Finals. But

451
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: I have blathered enough about the East, Chris, It's time

452
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: to turn it over to you. Update us on the West,

453
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: the series that you're at. What I mean, how would

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Speaker 2: you kind of describe the mood of the Lakers. I mean,

455
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 2: the Lakers KO the defending champs. I'm sure they thought

456
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: this was their time. Now basically later tonight after this

457
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: podcast drops, Lakers facing elimination, have to win Game four

458
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 2: at home just to keep the series going.

459
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: Definitely, frustration in that locker room. Definitely.

460
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Speaker 3: I walked into that locker room after Game three. Check

461
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: out the scene. Check out the mood, the vibe. I mean,

462
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: it was. It was as you would expect. I would

463
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Speaker 3: say this. Sometimes you go into a locker room where

464
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Speaker 3: a team is facing elimination, and you would expect it

465
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Speaker 3: to be quiet.

466
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Speaker 1: You would expect.

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00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: Guys to just be in a you know, just in

468
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Speaker 3: a frustrated disposition.

469
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Speaker 1: But sometimes it's not.

470
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Speaker 3: On occasion, there are teams that you know, they still

471
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: fill up beat because they're still alive, and you just

472
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: you don't get the sense when you walk in the

473
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Speaker 3: locker room. You don't get the sense that they're done,

474
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: or you don't get the sense that they feel like

475
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: they're out of it. I got that sense after Game

476
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 3: three that they're out. I got the sense that, you know,

477
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: there's some things I could probably say later, but I

478
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: got the sense.

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Speaker 2: That remember them though.

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Speaker 3: I can't forget this, Yeah, I can't forget this, but

481
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: yeah it doesn't.

482
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Speaker 1: And when I say done, I mean, I don't know.

483
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Speaker 3: Do they win tonight again? We're recording this Monday afternoon.

484
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: Do they win tonight? I don't know, but I don't

485
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 3: They're not coming back in this series. Beat this Denver

486
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: Nugget Squad four consecutive times. Don't see it happening at all,

487
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: just like we don't see that happening in the East.

488
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Speaker 1: But they made it this far. I don't see it.

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00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: But look Stein, I don't want to get myself in

490
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: trouble with Nuggets.

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Speaker 1: Faithful.

492
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Speaker 3: We can't spend too much time talking about the Lakers.

493
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: Mike Malone will coach Malone will pitch a fit. We

494
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: have to show some love.

495
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Speaker 1: To the Nuggets.

496
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Speaker 2: Mike Malone is Michael Malone just keeps saying that stuff

497
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: because he's convinced his guys that the world hates them.

498
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: And there's this discussion, now, have we all been unfair

499
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: to the Denver Nuggets?

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Speaker 1: All right, so let me ask that question. Man.

501
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: All we can go on is based off of history.

502
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: In recent history, they've had great regular seasons and they

503
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: fall short in the postseason. And they really have kept

504
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: the same roster. Who thought Bruce Brown was going to

505
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: come in and play like this, especially on the offensive end.

506
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: He's having the best year of his career. Nobody thought

507
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: he was capable of that. They're playing he's not, He's

508
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: not starting, but he's finishing games. Bruce Brown has been

509
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 3: a a that was a hell of a pickup. He's

510
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: going to earn his value in the offseason. They're a

511
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: deeper team. They're just they're a great team. It's just

512
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 3: that we've seen them dominating the regular season and then

513
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: we've seen them fold in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So that's all we can ever go off of.

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00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: Now, when were talking about like ratings and you know,

516
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 3: talking about that magnet who you know, getting eyeballs on

517
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: the team, it's just like I enjoy watching them because

518
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 3: I love hoops. You know, I play ball, I love ball.

519
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: I enjoyed watching them. But Stein, would you agree that

520
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: they are probably more casual NBA fans than diehard NBA fans?

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00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: What what do you think?

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00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but look, I mean I

523
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 2: think the ratings numbers of Lakers Warriors in the second

524
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: round were crazy, and that that probably backs that up

525
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: to some degree, that that that a second round series

526
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: could get the kind of numbers that Lakers Warriors did.

527
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: And that's going to be the thing. I mean this,

528
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: if it is Miami Denver, like we now all expect,

529
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: the ratings talk is just going to be such an

530
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 2: annoying part of this final because it's going to get

531
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: brought up all the time. There's no way around it.

532
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: I mean, i've you know, I think I've mentioned it

533
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,719
Speaker 2: on here before that I remember still remember conversations with

534
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: editors at ESPN when the Nuggets acquired Alan Iverson because

535
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: in that Mountain time zone, I don't know, I don't

536
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: know what it is, but the Nuggets have always struggled

537
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: to get any kind of spotlight or attention out there.

538
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: So I thought, man, you got Mellow and Ai. This

539
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: is finally the Nuggets time to be a national darling.

540
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: And they weren't even with Ai. They didn't. I mean,

541
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: they did that because I think it is that that

542
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: for some reason, that time zone, that part of the world,

543
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: the East Coast, is just not paying attention. I don't

544
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: really have a better answer than that. It's just a

545
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: theory that I can't prove. But I don't think a

546
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: lot of people on the East Coast, unless they are

547
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: absolutely NBA addicted, are tuning in to find Nuggets games.

548
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: And you know, Yokic is still kind of like people are.

549
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: People are still like discovering Man, this guy's really good

550
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: and he's just ridiculous. I mean, what he's doing in

551
00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: the in these playoffs is ridiculous. But yeah, I'm not

552
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: looking forward to that part of it, and I don't

553
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: feel like I've dissed the Nuggets. I mean, the reality is,

554
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: you know, they did it to themselves a little bit.

555
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: They finished seven to ten, They didn't finish the season strongly.

556
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: They basically had the top seed in the West wrapped up,

557
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: and just it was a very indifferent finish to the

558
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: regular season. I mean, Jokic even gave off the vibe

559
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: to some that you know, he was trying to take

560
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 2: himself out of the MVP race somehow because he didn't,

561
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: he just got tired of the conversation and you know,

562
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: just didn't finish with anything close to a flourish. But

563
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: you know, fair or not, it's kind of the way

564
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: we do it in the NBA that like the doubts

565
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: are there until we see you do it, and now

566
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: we're seeing the Nuggets do it. I do think that

567
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: I do. I feel really strongly that the playoff underachiever

568
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 2: tag that Jokic's face has been that has been unfit

569
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: because this is the second time in four years he's

570
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: had his team in the conference finals. But the two

571
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: years they didn't make it, there was no Jamal Murray.

572
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: I mean, here's a trivia question for you. Who on

573
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets besides Jokic has been an NBA All Star?

574
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: How many? How many Denver Nuggets?

575
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: I could name one, I believe, and he's not playing.

576
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 3: I think DeAndre Jordan made an All Star.

577
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: You got it is? That is the whole list. DeAndre Jordan, who,

578
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: as you said early in this pod, he basically now

579
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: is operating as their Eudonis Haslam. They're Andrea Iguodala, they're

580
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: old head who kind of referees the locker room. That's

581
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: basically what Jordan is giving them now. And he's the

582
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: only All Star on that team besides Jokic. So incredible

583
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: achievement for Jokic to have the Nuggets playing this well,

584
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: and certainly Jamal Murray has has stepped it up two

585
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 2: or three notches since the regular season. But I don't

586
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: think we were intensionally disrespecting the Denver Nuggets. But I

587
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: will concur completely that the player underachiever stuff that k

588
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: has had to hear, and the notion that you know,

589
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: these playoffs will validate his two MVPs and he should

590
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: give them back if the Nuggets don't do well in

591
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: these playoffs like I never I never bought that. You

592
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: give you give Jokics just a good team, and he

593
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 2: will get he will take you places.

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00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to call out Sam Amic and I'm

595
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: gonna have to inform Mike malonea this as well. Sam

596
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 3: a mix of the athletic are a good guy. I

597
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: saw him in Denver game was a game too, Yeah,

598
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 3: Game two dressed casual, casual, you know it was the

599
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: it's the the tire that we started wearing post pandemic.

600
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: You know, everybody's loose, just casual. Then I see him

601
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: Game three in LA suit tie, all dressed to the team,

602
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: and I told him, I said, listen, man, you can't

603
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: be disrespecting the Nuggets like that. You can't come to

604
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: Denver dressing all casual. Now you come to LA with

605
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: Staple Center, and now you want to dress all. I say,

606
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let coach Malone know about that, because he's

607
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: getting disrespected not only by us not talking about them enough,

608
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: but he's getting disrespected by the media with our tire.

609
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking forward.

610
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: To seeing what how Sam maybe is gonna come dressed

611
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: for Game four tonight.

612
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say anything to him. I'm gonna do

613
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: a little test and see if what you say on

614
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: this podcast just reaches him organically. I'm not going to

615
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wind him up. Craziness all around. Really,

616
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: this has been one of the strangest seasons I can remember.

617
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: It came up a lot during the regular season, weirdest,

618
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: meekest West in modern NBA history, only two fifty win

619
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 2: teams instead of the usual five. Memphis barely got to

620
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: fifty wins, Denver all alone. And now we've just seen

621
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: complete chaos in the playoffs and you're doing the West.

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Speaker 2: Will you be at all the finals? Some of the finals, Miami, Denver? Ready?

623
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 2: Are you ready for that? Are you? Are you okay?

624
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean all right, No, wait a minute, what am I?

625
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: What am I saying? You'll just do the South Beach games.

626
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Speaker 3: You are not going to get me in trouble with

627
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: Mike Malone at a diver Duggets faith.

628
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: You keep calling Mike Malone. If you don't start saying

629
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Michael Malone, are you still saying Michael mallin? You're going

630
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: to be in trouble.

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Speaker 1: Michael Malone, my apausis coach. I don't want no smoke.

632
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: But as far as my NBA Finals travels, I'm still

633
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: debating on how I'm gonna tackle that.

634
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I already know you'll be at games. You'll be

635
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: at games three four, You'll be at games three, four

636
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 2: and six.

637
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 1: If there isn't, I plead the fifth, I plead the fifth.

638
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: All right, Well I've I've as usual, I've talked too much.

639
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: You take us home, please, all right?

640
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: I got two items real quick. I want to get

641
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 3: to the first item. Star Dave mcmhnimon of ESPN. He

642
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 3: got us all together on a group text to play

643
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: some media pickup and I was able to get us

644
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: a location at LMU yesterday.

645
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Oh wow, yesterday morning. So who showed up?

646
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Speaker 3: Myself, Tony Jones, Dave mcminnimon, your guy, Tim McMahon.

647
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Who else?

648
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: My guy, Nate Jones over there with good Win Sports

649
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: working with.

650
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: Dame who else?

651
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: Oh?

652
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: We details one guy in particular.

653
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: He probably the surprise talent of that whole media pickup

654
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 3: game yesterday. Vic Lombardi, the studio host pregame host for

655
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: the Denver Nuggets. He's a season vet. He came out

656
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: there balling stein balling. Oh caught me off guard. Caught

657
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: me completely off guard, got the hesitation move, got the

658
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: in and out move, and transition, went to the bucket.

659
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 3: I saw him do that twice. But let me give

660
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: you a scout report. David min him and me and

661
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: Dave been Hooper for almost a decade. Spot up shooter

662
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: knows how to move without the ball.

663
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: You know me.

664
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 3: You know I'm a playmaker, drive kick, get to the basket.

665
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: You know I go dunk on somebody let's dunk. And

666
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 3: now I didn't get a dunk yesterday, didn't even try.

667
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: But that's my game. Hit the outside shot, Tibic Mahn

668
00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: my first time seeing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I need give McMahon.

670
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh oh lord. Murray was out there as well with

671
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: the athletic Okay.

672
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 2: How many flagrants did McMahon dole out Tim?

673
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: No, not too much.

674
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: Let me tell you why Tim didn't dole out too

675
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: many flagers because Tim.

676
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Was guarding stretched for Nate Jones.

677
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: So Nate Jones had Tim out on the perimeter for

678
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: most of the time, so he wasn't able to unleash

679
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 3: a pounding. So then I had to switch on to

680
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 3: Nate to allow Tim to go guard somebody down, you know,

681
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 3: on the block.

682
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: But Tim. Let me tell you about Tim.

683
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: I can tell that he hasn't played in a very

684
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: very long time. I can tell that he's scared to

685
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: use his limbs, his bottom limbs, just by the way

686
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 3: he moves, so that lets me know he's probably had

687
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: an injury in the past.

688
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: But with all that being said, seeing through all that

689
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: pain that he's dealing with, with all that.

690
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: Being said, I can see, like hoopers can see if

691
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: a guy used to be able to play, and Tim

692
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: had some post moves and some pivots that I seen

693
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 3: in there throughout all the chaos. I seen it, and

694
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, Okay, I think he Tim used to be

695
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 3: able to hoop when he was when everything was working properly.

696
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: Now he started off slow, but then he got his

697
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: rhythm back. But I tried. I made a mistake. I

698
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: saw Tim running on it a transition. He was running

699
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: on the wing, and throughout the day I would not

700
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: pass it to Tim on the wing in transition.

701
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: I'm only giving it to you in the post.

702
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: But I said, let me try him out, because you know,

703
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 3: in the NBA today you could give it to anybody

704
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: on the wing and let him go.

705
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: I gave it to Tim on the wing.

706
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 3: He dribbled, tried to pass like it was just an

707
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: awkward pass, and law picked it off and went and scored.

708
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 3: And I said, Tim, never again am I passing to

709
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: you in transition? Get your ass back in the pain?

710
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 3: He said, I completely understand, my bad. But that's that's

711
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: that's that's pretty much.

712
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: You know, Tony, you said, you said, Tony.

713
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: Tony, I poop with Tony. So Tony is a floor general.

714
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 3: He's going to get everybody in the spot Tony who

715
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: Tony played college like like me?

716
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: So Tony is a floor general. He gets everybody in

717
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: their sets, keep the offense going.

718
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: And then you know, Tony has a big body, so

719
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: he takes you down the post.

720
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: He was posting a Vic Lombardi getting him up in

721
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: the air. Uh for the and one. Tony's a hooper,

722
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: so no surprise.

723
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: I think I think Nate Jones secretly wants to be

724
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: a media member. He's tweeting all night commenting. I think

725
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 2: he wants I think he wants to you know, he's

726
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: he's in the agent business, but I think he secretly

727
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: wants to be a media guy.

728
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: Native is he understands us Nate understands and one thing

729
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: about like a lot of agents or a lot of

730
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,800
Speaker 3: person there who work within the agency. A lot of

731
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: them have I always say, have disdain towards the media.

732
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: But Nate, Nate gets it. He gets us, you know

733
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: what I mean, he gets us. So I don't know,

734
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 3: I've maybe out of asked him if he has a

735
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: secret fetish for wanting to be one of us. I

736
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: don't know why he would, but he was out and

737
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: Nate Nate is a shoot. So I was guarding Nate Nate,

738
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: he's shooting deep. He's shooting steph threes and and the

739
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 3: the the court that we're playing on is the NBA

740
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 3: three point line and that's when we played off of that,

741
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: and so he's shooting deep. So Nate is a floor spacer.

742
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: He would admit, he say he's getting better shape. But

743
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, Nate, Nate's cool. He's a hooper.

744
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: That's the first item.

745
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: I really don't know, like how many guys from my

746
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: generation still play. You know, it's been years since I participated.

747
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: But I mean in the nineties, like the media pickup game,

748
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: especially at the finals and especially at the finals All

749
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: Star but especially the finals was such a big deal.

750
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: Like Buker, Chris Brussard, Kate. I just saw Casey Johnson

751
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: at the lottery in Chicago. I should have asked him

752
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 2: if he's still playing, because Casey's still in great shape.

753
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: But all of us fifty somethings, I don't know if anybody.

754
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of us are still Sean Powell,

755
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody still plays. Something tells me

756
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Broussard can still can still play a little bit.

757
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something. You're not finished yet.

758
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: Don You only finish if if you allow your mind?

759
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm finished, believe me me. I don't. First of all,

760
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: I don't know that I ever really started, but I am.

761
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 2: I am way finished. The last The last time I played,

762
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: I think the last time I played in a media

763
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: game was the year the Thunder were in the finals,

764
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: because I remember, if I remember Michael Cage, Thunder broadcaster,

765
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: played with us. Obviously, former NBA player Brent Barry definitely played,

766
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: so I remember Brent. Brent kept passing me the ball

767
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: took me about six tries to finally knock one down,

768
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: and he was hooking me up. So that the last

769
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: time I remember playing, Like I said, we just more

770
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 2: than a decade ago. There were former NBA players turned

771
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: media members who were playing and that was that was interesting.

772
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, I'm I'm done, man, But I'd love

773
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: to watch. If I was with if I was at

774
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: this series, I would have been there watching LMU. Man.

775
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: I have fond memories of LMU. That was the LMU

776
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: is where the Lakers practiced when I was a Laker

777
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: beat writer many many many years ago. Wow Shaq and

778
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 2: Kobe their first year together. LMU was the was the

779
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: That's where the Lakers.

780
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Practiced, great great hospitality.

781
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 3: It was last minute that they arranged to open up

782
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: the gym for us, So I appreciate them for doing that.

783
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 3: And I also want to call out two individuals. One

784
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: I've already called out today, Sam Maymitt calling you out,

785
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: Vincent Goodwill calling you out that those two did not show.

786
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 3: Were scared, they were punks, whatever you want to call

787
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 3: They were scared to come out and play with the

788
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 3: rest of the out of shape media. I don't want

789
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 3: to hear about I'm out of shape. I'm out of shamed.

790
00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 3: Who is in shape?

791
00:46:58,760 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: Does Spears still play?

792
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: Nah, Spears don't play anymore. I didn't even I didn't

793
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: even waste the invitation. Spears didn't play.

794
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: But he lets me, He'll tell me I'm calling out Sam.

795
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm calling out Sam, and I'm calling out Vincent Goodwill.

796
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: That yahoo. So Steinn, that's my first item. The second

797
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: that was good.

798
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: I like that. That was good.

799
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Second item might be better than that.

800
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: So Stein, one of my partners, one of my home

801
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 3: he's from Fresno, sends me a text and he was like, bro,

802
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: guess who came into the barbershop. Remember you know, Fresno's

803
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: my hometown. That's my town. I'm the informal mayor of Fresno.

804
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, who came in the barbershop? So

805
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 3: he sends me a little video. It's video of Yanni's

806
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: just talking to everybody, just like like talking trash Giannis

807
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: after the kompo. So for context, everybody, Yannis's girlfriend, the

808
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: woman he has kids buy that is my cousin Mariah

809
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: or all from Fresno.

810
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Whatever.

811
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 3: So Jannis is in Fresno visiting family. My my younger cousin,

812
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: Mariah's sister. She graduated not too long ago. Mariah's other

813
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: sister graduated as well. So he's down there attended some

814
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 3: graduations and hanging and kicking. So he goes to Phase

815
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 3: two Barbershop and Stein Phase two barbershops. So anyway, I'm

816
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: gonna get to the text. Miss Me and Janni's had

817
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 3: a text exchange. So Phase two Barbershop is a barbershop

818
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: on the west side of town in Fresno. Like the

819
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 3: it's the roughest area in Fresne. That's where I grew

820
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: up at, right, So I first of all, I was

821
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: like cool, Jannis went over there. I like that, you know,

822
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 3: that's cool Pat Riddle Sprigger, which is my big cousin.

823
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: That's Mariah's dad. He took Giannis over there. So I

824
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 3: text Giantis. I said, I see you all up in

825
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 3: my city. Liaugh out loud. And then Yanni sends me

826
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: a video clip of him hanging with some Fresno kids

827
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 3: and he says, Fresno loves me man. They I said,

828
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: I see, I said, my partner sent me a video

829
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 3: you in a barbershop. I said, I'll let the streets

830
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 3: know that you're good so you can walk safely around town.

831
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: And he laughed out loud. He said, they're trying to

832
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: convince me to play for the Warriors or the Lakers.

833
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 3: And so I'm talking to it, and so I said, listen,

834
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 3: can you got to understand people understanding, Friendsnoe. We're right

835
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: in the middle of the Bay Area, in the middle,

836
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: you know, in between the Bay Area and LA So

837
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: you're either a Warriors fan or you're either a Lakers fan.

838
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 3: Now we don't we don't have too many Kings fans

839
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: and Fresne so that's only obvious like that, I said.

840
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: So I said that that is expected. I said, that's expected.

841
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: Then he talks about how he's only had a haircut twice.

842
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 3: He's only went to a barbershop twice since he's been

843
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: in America. Only went to a barbershop twice since he's

844
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 3: been in America, and those two times have been at

845
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: Phase two barbershop. And that tripped me out, so that

846
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 3: you know, obviously he's gotten a haircut more than twice

847
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: since he's been in America, but he's only went to

848
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: a barbershop twice, and that's at Phase two barbershop in Fresno.

849
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 3: And he told me to let them know that they

850
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: need to put a put his jersey up in the barbershop.

851
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: But I'm here.

852
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: The report that Fresno was recruiting Giannis to either play

853
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: for the Lakers or the Warriors. So I'm gonna tell

854
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 3: you this so if anything, if anything happens, I don't

855
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 3: I'm not.

856
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: I don't have any intail or anything.

857
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: If anything happens where Giannis ends up playing for the

858
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: Warriors or the Lakers, you can blame my city.

859
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: My city has something to do with it.

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Speaker 2: Nine five five nine, yet nine two oh nine, depending

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Speaker 2: on how old you are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I have not been to Fresno for more than thirty years.

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Speaker 2: I think I now again. When I was I've told

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Speaker 2: you this when I was in school for at least

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Speaker 2: part of my time, and Fresno was still in the

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Speaker 2: Big West with us. Not all my years of school,

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Speaker 2: but at least at the beginning, they were still in

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Speaker 2: the Big West. Still remember the legendary Ron Adams coaching

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Speaker 2: and Titan gym. I can still see that, But it's

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Speaker 2: been more I don't think I've been there since the

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Speaker 2: early nineties when I was covering minor league baseball in Vicealia.

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Speaker 2: But I would love to be with you and see Jannis.

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine Jannis and Fresno. I so badly

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Speaker 2: want to see what that looks like.

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Speaker 3: Phase two Barbershop is a very small barbershop, obviously black

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Speaker 3: on legendary barbers that have been there for years. Man,

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Speaker 3: So it's a cool like it's one of the marquee

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Speaker 3: spots on the west side of Fresno. Like, if you

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Speaker 3: had to get a cut on the west side, most

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Speaker 3: people will probably refer you to Phase two. It's been

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Speaker 3: there for a while. And just to see Yanni's in there.

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Speaker 3: In the video he showed me ya us is just talking.

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Speaker 3: He's just my home, my homeboy. He was just like

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Speaker 3: really surprised with just how open was and how much

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Speaker 3: engaged you was. And you know, he enjoyed it, man,

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Speaker 3: So that was cool.

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Speaker 2: You gotta do a story with him where you and

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Speaker 2: him hang out in Fresno for a day. I want

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Speaker 2: to see that.

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Speaker 3: That would be cool. I don't know how long he's

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Speaker 3: he's there. He went there for some graduations, so he

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Speaker 3: might have left, uh today or yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know that Milwaukee residents love this story.

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Speaker 2: But that was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, probably I didn't see you.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see you taking us there to end this show,

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Speaker 2: all right? That does it for this edition of this

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Speaker 2: League uncut By the time Chris and I join you

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Speaker 2: the next time, I think both the Heat and the

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Speaker 2: Nuggets will have secured their spots in the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: We are likely looking at a at a long the

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Speaker 2: break before the finals could be as many as eight days.

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Speaker 2: If both of these teams will have finished finished off sweeps.

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Speaker 2: Denver goes for the sweep in LA later tonight. Miami

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Speaker 2: has the chance to sweep Boston on Tuesday Final start

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Speaker 2: June first, and this is going to be potentially yet

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Speaker 2: another great development from Miami because if there is that

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Speaker 2: long break, I have to think the Heat will go

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Speaker 2: to Denver way earlier than usual and actually be able

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Speaker 2: to get some extra time in the altitude that they

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Speaker 2: wouldn't have normally had for practices had these two series

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Speaker 2: gone six or seven like they're supposed to do. All Right,

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Speaker 2: we covered a lot of ground and again many many

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Speaker 2: hat tips and congratulations to Carmelo Anthony on an absolute

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame career. Stein and Haynes Back with you

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Speaker 2: later this week. Until then, please rate, review and subscribe

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Speaker 2: and that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 2: This League Uncutta is an iHeartRadio production suck a lock up.

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Speaker 2: Chris Haynes and Mark Stein