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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Elliot flowing to the Scots and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans. It is a Talking Tuesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, helping fans get in on

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Speaker 1: the game once again from the Star in Frisco. Alongside

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips. We've got

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam as always in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: glad you're with us here. With the next forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: we are going to preview the Las Vegas offense versus

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Speaker 1: the Dallas defense. And we're gonna take your calls as well.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight eight five five two two ninety seven.

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Speaker 1: That is eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Gentlemen, how are we doing today? Peach

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Speaker 1: Peachie swell, swell and Peachy as well, doing good. We're

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Speaker 1: bracing the short week, aren't we. Yeah, no, you gotta

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Speaker 1: get after his twenty four hour rule. Let's get out,

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Speaker 1: get in, get out. Let's not talk last game. I'm confused.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what day it is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what time. What's going on? Man? It we got a

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Speaker 1: game on that. So this is officially our Thursday to Thursday.

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Speaker 1: This is the Jason Garrett thing. It's like it's it's

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Speaker 1: a Wednesday, but it's really like a third It's a Wednesday, Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and then tomorrow will be like a Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

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Speaker 1: actually Friday, it's Friday. Well because if day's Thursday, yeah yeah, yeahah,

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Speaker 1: but we've got two shows later for them, it's a Friday.

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Speaker 1: For us, it's a Thursday. It's a Friday. Okay, cool

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Speaker 1: Friday to them. Yeah. Mike mccartley was talking about it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He said it was it looked like a Wednesday when

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Speaker 1: they walked in because they had all the packets and

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Speaker 1: stuff and the quality control was all there, and they

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Speaker 1: always they were ready for the Vegas Raiders whenever they

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Speaker 1: walked in the door, which is good. And the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are back on the practice field today, Rob what does

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Speaker 1: a week of practice look like this week. Whenever it

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Speaker 1: usually it's no pads. It's it's in and out almost

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Speaker 1: like not meetings on the field, but very very light.

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Speaker 1: And Mike reference it yesterday, especially once again with these

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Speaker 1: uncommon opponents that they have not had a ton of

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Speaker 1: success against in this AFC West. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: film study, it's a lot of quick crash course on

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Speaker 1: what these guys do well, and there is some familiarity,

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Speaker 1: especially with the coaching staffs on the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. But yeah, it's I think it's probably more

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Speaker 1: mental than physical this week. Is that a good thing

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Speaker 1: or a bad thing for this team? Because I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I really know that ants or yet after

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Speaker 1: what we've seen to the last three weeks, it's a

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Speaker 1: good point. A lot of flash cards, a lot of

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Speaker 1: flash cards to ross point this week it's men's mental.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you physically can't go beat your guys down.

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Speaker 1: They're still recovering. I mean it takes Sunday game, We're

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Your body honestly doesn't start feeling better like

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Speaker 1: last week's game. No, I mean both of you, guys

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Speaker 1: there's a lot about them offensively and defensively that you

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Speaker 1: I can't do that. I tried to be optimistic Friday

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna refer so forget what happened, forget what

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Speaker 1: happened last week? Which game is it more important for

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Speaker 1: a tiring to be there last last week's game or

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Speaker 1: this week's game? This week's game, for sure, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: only watch it once. But Chris Jones, Man, dog yah, dude,

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Speaker 1: just ninety five dak is still see in ninety five,

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Speaker 1: could do it all, So why relegate him to one

425
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Speaker 1: thing over another. Seeing him last week playing on the edges, like, boy,

426
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Speaker 1: this boy is he's hunting out here and it's really

427
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Speaker 1: hard to stop. But then there are other times where

428
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: he's such a novice at rushing the passage that you

429
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 1: see his moves kind of get confused. Now does his

430
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Speaker 1: win rate overlap that, Yes, absolutely, But I think linebacker wise,

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Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill is going to have to do so much more,

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Speaker 1: and if we can rely on our linebackers to do it,

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Speaker 1: then I think we don't have any problems with putting

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Speaker 1: him on the edge and leaving him there. Yeah. I

435
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Speaker 1: don't disagree. I don't. This is a game where we

436
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Speaker 1: played last week against Kansas City. We know we can't

437
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: get behind, we know you can't get behind, and you

438
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: got behind. So it was a rap from the get go.

439
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 1: This game is not a game that I wanted to

440
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Speaker 1: even be close. Is you want this to be Atlanta? Yeah? Yeah,

441
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm just shy though, because these guys are

442
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: built off of confidence. These guys, these are the company.

443
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: These guys are a momentum team and they can they

444
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 1: can snap into it, just like dog on Thanos can

445
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: snap his fingers. These guys can snap into all of

446
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Speaker 1: a sudden, Oh shoot, let's go. We're the freaking Raiders.

447
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 1: And they go and they freaking go, and then you

448
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: got worried about Crossby and freaking Yannick and all these

449
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: other cats start going and flying up to You don't

450
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Speaker 1: want these guys to play with even a speck of

451
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Speaker 1: confidence because they are a team that is dangerous. They

452
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Speaker 1: have they have weapons. Now, let's not let's not config

453
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Speaker 1: they've they've had a bad stretch here, they've had they've

454
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: had a bad year and two. Absolutely, these guys are

455
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Speaker 1: a threat in the AFC. So let's respect them. Let's

456
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Speaker 1: we need to get up. Please get up, please, please

457
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Speaker 1: please get up. I'm begging y'all, cowboys, get up. Let's

458
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: not make this a competitive game because it's already it's

459
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Speaker 1: already a high profile game there, everybody's already gonna be

460
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Speaker 1: jacked up and juice. These guys don't get this game

461
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Speaker 1: all the time. Dallas does, right, So you have they

462
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to play on Thanksgiving. Everybody and their

463
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Speaker 1: mom is gonna be watching the game. The Cousins, everybody

464
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Speaker 1: overseas and on I they're all gonna have the game

465
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Speaker 1: turned on, and if the game is competitive, they will

466
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Speaker 1: find extra juice. So please, we need to get up early.

467
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about the Basuka just real quick,

468
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Speaker 1: go for it. I love that name, name he I've

469
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Speaker 1: been a proponent of. Just keep him where they've done.

470
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Speaker 1: Just he loves chess. Make him a chess piece. Let

471
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Speaker 1: move him all around. He can do so much for

472
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Speaker 1: you depending on matchups. But you watch that game on

473
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Speaker 1: Sunday and you're like, he's Von Miller at times, like

474
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Speaker 1: he could be Von Miller, that first step and just

475
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Speaker 1: screaming off the edge, and it's really exciting. It's interesting

476
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Speaker 1: to see what they're gonna do with him. I know,

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Speaker 1: I just I fluctuate week to week when I see

478
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Speaker 1: him right now, but ultimately I think what they're doing

479
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: is the right call. But sometimes he makes those plays

480
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: and you're like, this guy, this guy could be a

481
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Speaker 1: ten time Pro Bowl edge rusher if you wanted to.

482
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Speaker 1: I mean here, he Ray told us that he could

483
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Speaker 1: play any position on a so well, and I believe

484
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Speaker 1: that there's there's athletes that come around every so often

485
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: that can have that impact no matter where they're at

486
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Speaker 1: this game. I agree with he needs to be at

487
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Speaker 1: the second level, and I feel like I'll say that

488
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Speaker 1: every week. But there's a dude in that backfield that

489
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Speaker 1: we need to keep an eye on, and in Jacobs.

490
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Speaker 1: And there's also a dude that's gonna be lined up

491
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Speaker 1: with his hand in the ground and that can run

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Speaker 1: out and he's not small by any means, and we

493
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Speaker 1: need somebody to be able to run out and take

494
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Speaker 1: some shots on his chest, and he can't do that

495
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Speaker 1: from the end position. But I thought Hilaire coming back

496
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Speaker 1: for Kansas City was that kind of matchup where you

497
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Speaker 1: had to worry about, you know how use him off

498
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Speaker 1: the ball with his speed. And they said, you know what,

499
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Speaker 1: we have to get to ma homes. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: put Hilara is more is shifty. Jacobs wants to run

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Speaker 1: through your chess cavity. Two different backs, two totally different backs, right, Jacob, Yeah, exactly, Hilaria.

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Speaker 1: You got to you gotta guard him with multiple people.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy that you can just Hey, you

504
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: got him, could be that guy for him. Not Kenyan

505
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Speaker 1: Drake is that guy. Yeah, let's not let him get

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Speaker 1: in there and get going. I just wanted to shower

507
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Speaker 1: him with praise for a seconds because eight sacks and

508
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Speaker 1: ten games, and really it's been three games out of ten,

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Speaker 1: Week two and three, and then this last game where

510
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: he's really been an edge rusher. Other than that, he's

511
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Speaker 1: been a third down specialists, more sacks than their best guy.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's step aside. When we come back, we

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Speaker 1: That's a dog on doorwadge ulled out. You gotta show that, Rob,

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Speaker 1: show that please? What what? What in the heck is

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Speaker 1: front pocket? I think I got like my middle school

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Speaker 1: ID badge and all that. You know, I just don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't throw things away. I'm not a hoarder, but

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Speaker 1: stacksion is, Can we see your middle school id badge.

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Speaker 1: I don't really think I have it, but I'll search

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Speaker 1: for it, Okay, Okay, I just want to see it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're back bro it already, I will say he is

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Speaker 1: my unt student. I d is still in my wallet too,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but you're a lot young. Remove from it

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. He just U and T bars.

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Speaker 1: That's where it is. Yeah, Actually, honestly I have done that.

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Speaker 1: Don't tell on me, but I've done that for sure.

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Speaker 1: Definitely walk up and like this show. Right, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Troy in Philadelphia. Shout the monkey bars.

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00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: What's up, Troy? How's it going? My man? Hey man,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Guys? Like you guys doing good? Good,

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Speaker 1: good good. I'm glad to hear that, man, Man, you

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Speaker 1: I love you guys. Man, I don't you don't get

580
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Speaker 1: a chance to listen live, but you hardly day weekend.

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Speaker 1: Everything's like you get a chance. Hey, Troy, Troy, did

582
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Speaker 1: you just you're in Philly? Yeah, you're believe I'm behind you. Wayne,

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Speaker 1: You're a cowboy fan in Philly. Oh you have no

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Speaker 1: get it? Hey man, I'm sending you a pound through

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Speaker 1: I don't know digital pound, right, now that's that's one

586
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: hundred right there. Brother, Wait, he's an insurgent's doing God's work.

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Speaker 1: You know, I can't say that I'm a Cowboys fan

588
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Speaker 1: if I'm just ordering my phone. Man, it's dum. I

589
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: don't do it. It's crazy. I loove man. I wanted

590
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: to um. I wanted to chime in, man because I

591
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: keep hearing this thing about the offense and you know

592
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: how we had all these and Ring Tirring was out

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Speaker 1: and uh Coop and we didn't have CD for the

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Speaker 1: second half. But I'm sorry, guys, I watched this defense

595
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: ball out all season and they have not been home.

596
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: Like they didn't have their two top d ends in

597
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Speaker 1: this game, and they neutralize the best quarterback in the world.

598
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: And we're making excuses. And I'm not saying, you know you, guys,

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Speaker 1: I get Tirring mattered. I get it. We said it

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Speaker 1: last year, um, not just last year. Archer had the

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Speaker 1: stat they're eighteen and nineteen. When he doesn't play career,

602
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: it's a problem. It always is a problem. Right, it

603
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: was a big deal. But again, this defense is bawling

604
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: out without its best players, and we don't make it

605
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: like we're not making excuses for that, like they are

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: bawling out they stash a thord or neutral They didn't

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Speaker 1: stop them, but they neutralize the best quarterback in the

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00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: game was out their best two d ends, And we're

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Speaker 1: making excuses on the office. I'm sorry, you know that

610
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: can't be missing passes. We can't be dropping passes like

611
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be an elite offense who everybody

612
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: said can beat you, however they want to beat you.

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00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: But Callen seems to want to beat you. What's the

614
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: passing game? And he'll take the running game if it's working,

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00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: but he seems to want to beat you with the

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Speaker 1: passing game. I just it's hard for me to make

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Speaker 1: excuses for the offense when we when we when we

618
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Speaker 1: haven't seen this defense play whole the whole season, as

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Speaker 1: you really think about it, other than the Tampa games

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Speaker 1: when you know Tim just took it, Brady just took it.

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Speaker 1: But the two the other two losses that we've had,

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Speaker 1: it's been because the offense let us down. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: the defense. It was the offense of that let us down.

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00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: And both of those games, and we supposed to be

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00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: in the lead offense. And that's why I keep hearing,

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Speaker 1: and that's why I see when we're winning, but when

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Speaker 1: we're losing, it's the offense of letting us down. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: the call, Troy. You are the man out in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Keep doing great work out there. And honestly, he poses

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Speaker 1: a great question because he's right to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could blame the defense or

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Speaker 1: the offense only for the Denver loss. That was a

634
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: little bit of everybody. But you could blame the offense

635
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Speaker 1: for the Kansas City loss certainly, Oh yeah, you could

636
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: totally do that. But Denver was a little bit of everybody.

637
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: And then, like you said about the Tampa Bay game,

638
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: that was Tom Brady being Tom Brady at the end.

639
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: You played well throughout that game. But why why is that?

640
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: Why do we make excuses? And once again by we,

641
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean just basically Cowboys Nation make excuses for the

642
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: offense versus the defense and the defense still getting a

643
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: job done. Is there that much of a discrepancy between

644
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: the two sides, between the two units when they're missing

645
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: their best pieces. First of all, shout out to you

646
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: being an insurgent in Philly's tough. Um uh, keep it okay,

647
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: that's certain. Yeah, however, I don't disagree with you. That's

648
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: fair analysis. That is very fair analysis in terms of

649
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: those guys, you know, failing on certain games, things of

650
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: that nature. Understand this, it's not the same because it's

651
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: harder to play offense. And some people may not digest

652
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: that very well. It's it's harder. It's harder to play.

653
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: It's at those positions. It's harder to replace an offensive

654
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: tackle versus replacing a defensive alignment or a defensive end.

655
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: It's just more difficult. You can lose a defensive end

656
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: that's getting paid like our guys are getting paid, and

657
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: replace them with a guy that gives crazy Max Crosby effort.

658
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: You might not get all the production, but you're gonna

659
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: get it. You still gonna get a help of a

660
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of pressure and put some stress on that offense.

661
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: When you miss a office a lineman, it demoralizes you

662
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: simply because there's so much technique that's required to be

663
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: effective at those positions. Receivers is hard in this league. Receiver.

664
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Speaker 1: You lose a receiver, it affects you major in a

665
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Speaker 1: major way too. Why Because there's so much technique that

666
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: goes in getting a release and you know, and just

667
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: a savvyness of getting in and out your breaks and

668
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: things of that nature. You lose a running back. The

669
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: league starting to figure this out. You lose a running back.

670
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: I can replace the running back. I can replace the

671
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: running back. It might be as effective, but we won't

672
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: be that far of a drop off. Right. But there's

673
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: just certain positions that you just can't afford to lose,

674
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: and that, unfortunately is the case with the Dallas Cowboys.

675
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: You can't lose lineman. Plus, I think the environment they

676
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: were in was not conducive for a lot of youth

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: on the left side of that line, and it was

678
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: a factor in the game. It's not an excuse, it's

679
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: a fact. Watch the game. There was a problem. And yeah,

680
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, everybody's right. They didn't make plays that

681
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: were there to make. They didn't they didn't step up

682
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: and make plays. The drops, the penalties, it all rolls

683
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: into one. It's not just oh they didn't have these guys.

684
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: They didn't win. They didn't make simple plays to win games.

685
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing that, but I'd also think we just

686
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: talked about Michael Parsons for ten minutes, like, yeah, you're

687
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: missing your top two edge rushers. But he's changed this

688
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: defense because he can play anywhere you can plug him

689
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: in and he's got he's got more sacks than anybody

690
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: on the team. So they have more depth at that

691
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: position this year than they do on the offensive line

692
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen. Yeah, may have been a

693
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 1: wrong week to try and plug in a new left

694
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: guard as well. And I'm not saying that Connor McGovern

695
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: isn't better than Connor Williams, and I'm sure that's an

696
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: ongoing competition, but whatever they're trying to put together, just

697
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: the synergy between the offensive line may have changed so

698
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 1: much so that you couldn't put out a dominating performance,

699
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: a one where the offense and got clicking. So look,

700
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: I just feel as though we have this mentality in football,

701
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: as football fans, as people that appreciate the sport, that

702
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: there's a next man up mentality, And that sounds good

703
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: in theory, but I think what Isaiah is saying is that, look,

704
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: when you replace guys like this on your offensive line,

705
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: or you have skill position guys that you count on

706
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: rely on heavily that are not there. It changes the

707
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: whole complexity of your offense and there's nothing you can do.

708
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: It's a technicality that's different than anything on the defensive

709
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: side of the football. The fact that you have that

710
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: continuity that's been a buzzword around these parts since Mike

711
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: McCarthy arrived, was continuity and continuing to have that relationship

712
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: back and forth. And it's kind of what Rob said yesterday.

713
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if if they would have thought Tyrn

714
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: Smith was inactive for the Kansas City game. I don't

715
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: know if they make that change this week. I think

716
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: if they knew going into the week that Tyron Smith

717
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: was going to be out, I don't know if Connor

718
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: Williams would have been taken out for Connor McGovern. I

719
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: think it would have been the same five that we

720
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: saw week prior. Then you wait for tyrants meant to

721
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: do it. But I think they were probably disappointed in

722
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: the fact that Tyrne wasn't available. You look like you

723
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: wanted to say something there. Yeah, I mean, I don't

724
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 1: know that's the top. I don't know, just throwing that

725
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: out there. I feel like they were working the governing

726
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: in there. I feel like for the week's leading up

727
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: to that, they were getting him warmed up, and Jerry

728
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: said it was a separate decision. I mean they they've

729
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: seen the penalties you're going to Arrowhead. They felt like

730
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: they needed to make a change. But but yeah, I

731
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: think it certainly would have helped have to have that

732
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: yeah right there next to you. Yeah. All right, let's

733
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: go to Ted in Houston. Ted, what's going on? You're

734
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys? How's it going guys? Hey, I just

735
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: wanted to say that I think Kelln is getting too

736
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: cute out there on the red zone. He tries to

737
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: go east and west instead of north himself, and I

738
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: think he puts stalls in our offense there. And I

739
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: think he could do a better job of, you know,

740
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: running at consecutive times with Zeke or Paul because the

741
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: run game was there, you know, looking back, and he

742
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: just didn't run at consecutive times. And I think he

743
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: just gets too cute. And I just think if I

744
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 1: think Mike needs to get in and you know, help

745
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: out Kellen with the play call. What do you guys think?

746
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: Thank you Ted for the call. What do you guys

747
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: think about that in terms of the red zone? Well,

748
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: you just said it I mean, the coaching staff already

749
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: knew that they went away from the run a little bit,

750
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: and that's something they should have accentuated a little bit

751
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: more last year. Kellen Moore, We've been talking about his

752
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: red zone problems for a while, but this year they

753
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: seem to cure a lot of them. We hadn't had

754
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: any problems with it. It's and if we're gonna go

755
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: on a game by game basis, I'm fine with that too.

756
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: We just didn't do well in the red zone this game.

757
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: So you come up against a Las Vegas opponent that

758
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: is horrible in the red zone. They allow their opponents

759
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: to score seventy four times seventy four percent of the

760
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: time when you get into the red zone. So I

761
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: just think, you know, sometimes you get a game where

762
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: the right opponent comes in for you and can help

763
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: you cure some of those wolves that are eels that

764
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: you have. Yeah, they got, that tells them what they

765
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: got the what what is that to fix all? It's

766
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: a good thing. Okay. Well, I don't know who our

767
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,480
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768
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: sponsor for everything around here. I don't I don't disagree

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00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, but you know t hegma's point.

770
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sometimes you just face the wrong opponent man,

771
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: or things just aren't clicking. Last week, things just weren't clicking.

772
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: So I don't have any concerns with our red zones

773
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: right now. I think that, you know, I think Kelly

774
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Moore is still young as off as a coordinator, and

775
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: he's still learning is great. As great as he's been,

776
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: people still have to give him grace because he's still

777
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: going back and doing film, studying himself and trying to

778
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: improve just like the players are. Yeah, and just generally

779
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: he talked about throwing the ball too much and that

780
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: maybe you know, there's there's a temptation when you've got

781
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: man coverage on the outside it's open and you have

782
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: you have trusted in your receivers, even without Amari, we

783
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: trust our guys like Dak thrown into the end zone

784
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: against the various ward and tested him and it was

785
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: a pick, but he said, I'll give my guy a chance.

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Speaker 1: You know, how windy was it in Kansas City? Pretty windy?

787
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 1: It was, yeah, okay, fourteen fifteen miles an hour. Yeah,

788
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Speaker 1: it depending on gus, I mean, pregame it was it

789
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: was very windy down there. McCarthy, What do you say yesterday?

790
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: He didn't think it was a major factor, but he

791
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: said it was like a six to eight yard difference

792
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: or something like that. It was windy. Yeah. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take our second break. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: an idea. I'll be your cornhole partner. We've got a

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Speaker 1: non't volunteer to be his partner, will be I will

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Speaker 1: be your partner. Is to be my partner than be

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Speaker 1: against me. That's challenge. No, it is a challenge. It's

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Speaker 1: it's totally fact. I throw things for a living, sir

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Speaker 1: as heck and he takes you to a bar where

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Speaker 1: they have pictures of him everywhere. Don't do it. I will,

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Speaker 1: I will play you in cornhole. Don't you play me

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Speaker 1: in bowling? Okay, I do it. I I'm horrible at

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Speaker 1: bowler and Isaiah's horrible at cornhole. So this is that

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Speaker 1: is not true, sir? All right? I mean I think

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Speaker 1: my best game was like a one have custom boards made. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right. You're not the only one. Man. I have

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Speaker 1: a client that I trained as she her and her

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Speaker 1: husband travel for cornhole tournaments. It's not a game, I

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Speaker 1: believe it. All right. Uh, let's get one more call

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Speaker 1: in here before we wrap things up. Jordan and Maryland,

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Speaker 1: what's up? Man? You're on talking cowboys? Hey, how's it

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Speaker 1: going on? What's going on? Jo? Hey? Um? So, I

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Speaker 1: want to ask you guys, how how concerned are you

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Speaker 1: with Tyrant Smith's health for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: And if, let's say he was to come back in

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Speaker 1: and reaggravate his injury again, what can Dallas do to

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Speaker 1: um avoid what happened on Sunday? I mean, come January,

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Speaker 1: you know we're gonna have Von Miller Aaron Donald in

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Speaker 1: Dak's face. You know they have to they have to

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Speaker 1: figure something out. Um, And this message is kind of

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Speaker 1: just for Cowboys Nation. It's just it was just one game,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um, I just I just watched Buffalo gets

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Speaker 1: dumped on their home field forty one to fifteen. Champa

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Speaker 1: just lost a couple of weeks ago to Washington. It's

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Speaker 1: it's it's a week to week league. The Rams lost

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Speaker 1: and then they have to play Green Bay on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a chance to to jump one

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Speaker 1: of these teams in the NFC. Um, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's all doom and gloom like people may seem. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're making it seem like it's the same

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Speaker 1: old Cowboys. But I've seen enough from this team throughout

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Speaker 1: the season that I think that they're legit. Um. I

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00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: think that they have a chance to to really make

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Speaker 1: a run in the postseason if they can stay healthy

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. And um yeah, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: not giving up on this team. I know I have

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Speaker 1: them getting to the NFC Championship Game and I got

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Speaker 1: them playing Green Bay. I don't think seating doesn't matter. Um,

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Speaker 1: what matters is you getting to the postseason. And you're

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Speaker 1: determined to win. Your willingness to fight, that's going to

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Speaker 1: keep them going. Um so all right, bye, okay, Chris

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Speaker 1: the way over, come on. We gotta yeah we okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Chris is trying to hurry a three minute call. Man,

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Speaker 1: I was asking him sing o bay. Yeah. I liked

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Speaker 1: what he was saying. He's right, he's right, He's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Three teams. Every team's got flaws, and it's it's a

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Speaker 1: long ass season. There's seven games left. You know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of time to get it right. But you gotta

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. Like you said, you gotta stay healthy. You

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Speaker 1: can't be too banged up now and offensive line, Are

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Speaker 1: you concerned about Tyrant Smith long term? Yes? No, maybe,

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Speaker 1: because my answer is a resounding yes. Stephen Jone said

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Speaker 1: no once he comes back. So to me, if it's

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Speaker 1: more about the high ankle than the spurs, because the

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Speaker 1: spurs don't go away, Yeah, But if it's more about

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Speaker 1: the high ankle, then yeah, if he comes back concerned

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Speaker 1: about it, okay, Isaiah, I'm not confident. Yeah, I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of there too. I need him to be healthy, but

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Speaker 1: I agree with Pee that you know, if they feel

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Speaker 1: like the last three weeks and giving him off is

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Speaker 1: going to have him healthy for the long stretch. Then

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Speaker 1: I'm all for it because we got some we got

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Speaker 1: some heat coming and December hasn't been kind to us,

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Speaker 1: so let's let's make it work. No, not at all,

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Speaker 1: all right, Jordan, once again, thanks for the call. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to everybody who gave us a call today. But that

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Speaker 1: does it for us here on Talking Cowboys, join us tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're previewing the Cowboys offense versus the Vegas defense, and

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Speaker 1: we give our picks for the weekend. As it's ay,

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Speaker 1: say it with your chest Wednesday on Talking Cowboys for

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back, for Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back,

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Speaker 1: heck my Harrison. I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. We'll

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