1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where I'm still feeling conflicted about 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: skipping the Oasis concert a couple of weeks. I'm Greg 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, very excited 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: to be talking about the six AFC games. Some include 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: the Lions. You know, it's if the AFC team is 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: at home, and yes, just to get it out of 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: the way there, Like I had, I had an end 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: to go to go to Oasis, but it and and 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: even like you know, good seats and what backstage and 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: all that, and it was the night before week one 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: and I was just like, eh, I don't really want to. 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: That's that's how dedicated Greg Rosenthal is. 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Well, they're also a band that if this concert was 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: on any day pretty much most days the rest of 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: the season that was you know, convenient, or the rest 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: of the year that was convenient, would love to go. 17 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: On the other hand, not a band I was like 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: obsessed with as a kid or anything. I will say 19 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: that I got like drunk consistently for the first time 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: with no parental supervision while listening to Live Forever on 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: repeat for like an entire weekend. But I'm not like 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: a mega fan. 23 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: I do love the picture you've painted. 24 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little a little gret you didn't go. 25 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 4: Also, sorry to the listeners. I think I blew out 26 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 4: everyone's ear drums. Just that shocked though, Greg, I mean 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 4: and also I love Oasis. You could have passed that 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 4: good vibe. 29 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't well, it wasn't one of those things. I 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: don't think I could have. It was like, wow, this 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: is excluse a connection, I guess, but. 32 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: Wow, what a freaking flex. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: It's tricky though. It's okay. It's at the Rose Bowl. 34 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: It's gonna end at like twelve thirty, impossible to get 35 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: out of there. You're home by like one thirty. If 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: it was like if Kurt Cobaine was alive and it 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: was Nirvana, I was trying to think of a band 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: that would be coming like but I'm not passionate enough 39 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: at this age to do despite. 40 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: A core memory. 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well they were not going to play 42 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: live forever until like the you know, the end. 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 2: Maybe just maybe just go for the end. 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm talking about this right at 45 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: the top of like the best game of the year 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: so far. 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Because it's worth it. It's worth it. Yes, let's get 48 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: to our am. 49 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 4: Because you missed maybe the best, one of the best 50 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 4: concerts of the year. 51 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: That's why a great game. 52 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: Could it be Oasis level? We'll find out. 53 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 5: The Detroit Lions making their visit to the Baltimore Ravens, 54 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: who are favored about four and a half points. The 55 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 5: over under is fifty one and a half. In the 56 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: last few seasons the Lions have had this opportunity to 57 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 5: play against the Baltimore Ravens. It has not gone well. 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: But maybe John Morton could be the one to save 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 5: the Lions. Greg Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, and Lisa Salters 60 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 5: and Laura Rutledge on the call for Monday Night Football. 61 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 2: Is John Morton the answer? Do they beat the Ravens? 62 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: I mean, are you just pouring a little salt good? 63 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: That was so good? That was that was amazing. 64 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: I see what you did. Also, thank you very you 65 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: guys really brought it this show. 66 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: I also think that in the lab. Yeah, like the NFC, 67 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: that was fine. We bring out the great stuff for 68 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: the AFC. I sense a little bit of confidence here 69 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. Patrick Claybhn's team. I'man into this matchup. No, 70 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: you just kind of mentioning how the Ravens blew the 71 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: doors off them previously. It almost feels a little tongue 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: in cheek that, like, oh, John Morton could be the 73 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: difference I. 74 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Needed to make the Oasis reference. That's all that was. 75 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 5: No, I've never competent that can beat anybody, that can 76 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 5: lose to anybody. 77 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: I do like the matchup has worked for them, that 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: they did a few things defensively that scrambled Jared goff 79 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Springs in the past. Now we're going back to twenty 80 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: twenty three for that last game, which it's been a minute. 81 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: And I do think they're catching them at the right 82 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: time of year. I do think about this. Right now, 83 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: these teams are so different than how they'll be in December. 84 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: The Ravens are a perfect example of that. No team 85 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: has more consistently improved, especially on defense late in the 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: season than the Ravens. And I do have questions about 87 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: their defense. Think this could be a shootot, but I 88 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: just don't know if the Lions defense is ready for 89 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a game like this. 90 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: No, And I think because right away we've seen questions 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: emerge about their front, not just their pass rush, but 92 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: their run defense and the way that they handle different looks, 93 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 4: different layers in that in those phases. And on the 94 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 4: other side, Jared Goff is playing settled, confident football and 95 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: John Morton what he is doing more than I guess 96 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 4: he would who must not be named in Detroit now 97 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: who just came and went to a cacophony of booze 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: he you know. 99 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: John Ben Johnson, Ben Johnson. 100 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: Which by the way, Jared Goff did condemn that, because 101 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: that's that's a classy guy right there. And it's interesting 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 4: he's he's more settled, I think because they're they're putting 103 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 4: him in play action a little bit more. Ben Johnson 104 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 4: already used it at like a thirty percent rate with 105 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 4: Jared Goff in previous seasons, but it's even more now 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: under John Morton. And that's that's really going to settle 107 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: him down early. And I just I just think, like 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: to your point, Greg, I think this is going to 109 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: be a points game, lots of points on both sides. 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 111 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 5: Well, considering the way things have gone for for this 112 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 5: Ravens team, especially defensively early, I think there were some 113 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 5: positives to take away from the opener. You learned a 114 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 5: little bit more about how to deploy the defense, and 115 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 5: I think that came out uh in you know, not 116 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 5: as much jaire in the gaming. 117 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Not any rights. 118 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, significantly less giant for the for the Ravens in 119 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: the secondary. And this is this is that that opportunity 120 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 5: to show how much you've improved in terms of past defense, 121 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 5: not just past coverage, but but the rush as well. 122 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 5: And this this Lion's secondary, especially when you because I 123 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 5: always mentioned both Kirby and Brian branch And being two 124 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: of the best safeties in the NFL, where it's tough 125 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: to get the types of deep explosive plays that the 126 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: Ravens have kind of relied on in the run game 127 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 5: and the past game where you're going to have to 128 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 5: have consistent uh first downs and consistent like short to 129 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: intermediate gains where they're going to make you earn it. 130 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: And Baltimore will see if they can do that. 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only way the Lions win this 132 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: game is a shootout. And so even though I'm almost 133 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: looking past the defense because the pass rush is so 134 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: one dimensional, it's just dayon Hudginson. I mean, Marcus Davenport 135 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: had the most Marcus Davenport play of all time, which 136 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: is that he got hurt on a sack and you 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be like mean to the guy. But 138 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: Saints fans went through and Lions fans have now too 139 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: that you just he can't stay on the field. He 140 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: ended up finishing out that game until hopefully he's there. 141 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: But you're essentially starting two players who act like nose 142 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: tackles in the middle of your line, and if you're 143 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: not great at stopping the run with that, you're giving 144 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: up so much as a pass rush. And I did 145 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Mina Kimes's podcast this week, she pointed out that the 146 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Lions have have always gone so far, it's a small 147 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: sample size to base personnel when the other team plays 148 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: two tight ends and so you're thinking about Angeloni on 149 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the field and Derek Barnes on the field and kind 150 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: of the speed missmap if the Ravens do get Isaiah 151 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: likely back, which it's s trending towards. 152 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why I say points points, points, because 153 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: the Ravens have so many changeups in their offense, and 154 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 4: I just think that the Lions so far, you know, 155 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: also had to you know, replace a coordinator. And Calvin 156 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: Sheppard was more excited than anybody I think to hold 157 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams to what they did, and I really appreciated 158 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: all of the sideline shots of him, and I think 159 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 4: that's a confidence boosting game for them. But this is 160 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: a confidence killing game for them, and I think for 161 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 4: the for the Ravens defense as well. It's a scary 162 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: one because the Lions offense is rolling right now. They 163 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: look we were waiting for them to look quote unquote Lions, 164 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: right they look Lions now of what we know them 165 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 4: to be over the last you know, couple of years 166 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: under Dan Campbell and whoever is coordinating that offense. And also, 167 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 4: you know, this is a tough challenge for the Ravens 168 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: on the defensive side, but it also is such a 169 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: tough challenge for the Lions defense because of all of 170 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: the layers both teams can deploy and all of the 171 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: different like math problems to solve. 172 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: Here, you mentioned Kelvin Sheppard. I'm going to put you 173 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: on the spot here. While we were watching the games 174 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday, I noted to you that Kelvin Shepherd was 175 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: involved in one of the most one sided franchise changing 176 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: one for one trades in NFL. I would say in 177 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: this century in the last decade plus or so. You 178 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: can't google it. 179 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: Although the question the questions for Jordan's zone. 180 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair. No, don't lean back. I said who 181 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: it was. Who was Kelvin Shepherd who is now a 182 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, traded for that player was still in the 183 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: NFL as of last year. 184 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: Amazingly as of last year. Oh my gosh, you are 185 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: putting me on the spot. You also are assuming I 186 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: listened to anything you said to me while we were 187 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: watching Cays. 188 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: Totally fair. 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 2: That's a big key. 190 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: Tell Greg, it's Jerry Hughes, just an underrated player who 191 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: the Colts thought was a little bit of a bus 192 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: traded to the Bills and off he went into a 193 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: Hall of very good season. That's that's in a side. 194 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: But that's what we can do here when we're giving 195 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: every team just a little extra love. 196 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, the space, you know, extual love and an opportunity 197 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 5: for some tough love. Because harry On Arnold bit on 198 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: a double move from Romo Dounze. Teams have been attacking 199 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: him and you know, would like to see a little 200 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: bit more out on the coverage side, because as evidenced 201 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: by three catches this season for new Hopkins could have 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 5: been three touchdowns if one wasn't down at the one 203 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 5: inch line. It's it's our really first chance to see 204 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 5: a designated guy who can fight for the ball and 205 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 5: play the ball in the air, playing with Lamar, and 206 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 5: Lamar's taking advantage for that because it's really just been 207 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 5: Mark Andrews and no one else Isaiah likely in spots, 208 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: but at the wide receiver position. 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: This is the best hands Lamar has ever played with. 210 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: It's crazy that Hopkins has three jaw dropping catches, all 211 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: of which should have been touchdowns. He was like a 212 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: half yard shore on one of them. And he's only 213 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: played twenty eight snaps this year. Like if you just 214 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: watch the highlights, you would think like he's out there 215 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: all the time. They got a problem. They have too 216 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: many like mouse to feed. Mark Andrews has no product, 217 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman doesn't really have much production. Za Flowers is 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: taking a nice leap, I think in terms of being 219 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: a complete receiver, but it's almost like they have they 220 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: have too many weapons. The only problem is keeping them 221 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: all happy and sharing the ball. 222 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: We got to talk about our guy, Greg because you 223 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: talked about nukes. 224 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 5: Twenty eight snaps a guy who's had twenty offensive snaps 225 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 5: but keeps making great plays. 226 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: Isaac to slow You mean Isaac Newton? Why is that 227 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: defying gravity? 228 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I was. 229 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: Gonna say, because he's the gravity will eventually draw the fenders. 230 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: You even brought an apple in today. You know I 231 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: had to make. 232 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: You know, did he? He damilar story that I two 233 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: for two? 234 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: Both insane. 235 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Now. I don't know when he played because obviously some 236 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: of it was at the end of the second quarter, 237 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: but he did bump it from just a handful of 238 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: snaps to seventeen. So that's on the right. 239 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: Pa. He's on pace to pace play six thousand STAPs 240 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: in again. 241 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Uh, he is on pace to have like a touchdown 242 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: for every catch he has in his entire career. And yeah, 243 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: last week was a reminder that you can stack up 244 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: all these different offenses. The Lions have more great players 245 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: than you do. Even the Raps. I think as good 246 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: as a moon Rah Luck last week, as good as 247 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs is. They tried to run outside a little 248 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: more last week, which I think was really effective, Like 249 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: he was just out the shoot on some of those 250 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: like outside zone and trap plays. 251 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: It totally took the teeth out of that Bears defense. 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 4: Right. 253 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: You have Jamison Williams, who I think is just coming 254 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: into his own. Laporte is still great, and so it's 255 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: all about players. My question is just kind of like, 256 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: is their interior line ready to win like a forty 257 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: one to thirty eight game like or will they make 258 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: some sort of mistake at some point, giving up like 259 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: a force fumble to mad Week or Travis Jones something 260 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: like that changes the game. 261 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 5: Let's get to our next AFC home matchup. It is 262 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: an all AFC battle. The Pittsburgh Steelers were favored by 263 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: one and a half points, with Aaron Rodgers at the 264 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: New England Patriots and Drake May the over under forty 265 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 5: four and a half. I an eagle JJ Watt Evan 266 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 5: Washburn on the call. Will let Greg discuss his team, 267 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 5: but we'll start with you as as you Jordan, what 268 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 5: do you think it takes place here? 269 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: Less mistakes wins here because the Pittsburgh Steelers were defined 270 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: by two massive, massive mistakes that completely altered the game, 271 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 4: one of them being the Aaron Rodgers interception where he 272 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: was very quick. In the little slow Moll replays of 273 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 4: the discussion after that play to point out where the 274 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 4: receiver should have run even though he threw it into 275 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: double coverage on that play, and also the special teams 276 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 4: gaff Caleb Johnson not running after the ball and even 277 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 4: just kicking it out of the end zone. The Seattle 278 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: Seahawks being able to fall on that for a massive 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 4: point swing that led to seventeen unanswered in that period 280 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 4: that to completely changed the game for the Steelers. They 281 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 4: were the dominant team throughout most of the first half 282 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 4: of that game. The defense was really coming to life. 283 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: Then they lost Alex Heismith, and then the mistakes started happening. 284 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: And so I think with this one, fewer mistakes. 285 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: Wins the two very sloppy teams so far. Not shocked 286 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: that the steel are favored here, but two teams I'm 287 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: not sure what to do with Josh McDaniels Mike Tomlin. 288 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,479 Speaker 1: This would be a revenge game for Mike Tomlin. McDaniels 289 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: has had some of Mike you know, Tomlin's worst moments. 290 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels was on the other side coordinating. I mean, 291 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: I think that Tom Brady was probably a bigger factor 292 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: in those games than than Josh McDaniels. But I did think, yes. 293 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: Marius Thomas, you know, may rest in peace, all right? 294 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: Was that was? That was? That was McDaniels right in 295 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: the playoffs against Mike Tomlin. 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: Did he make t Did he make the playoffs? I 297 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: think they were on a different coach by them or 298 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: am I am I crazy? 299 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: No, I may be misremembering that. 300 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: I we will check that. The research is looking it 301 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: up right now. I'm thinking more of like the AFC 302 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: Championship games all that sort of stuff. Look, they do 303 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: have a little bit of a predictable defense in terms 304 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: of what they run, and I think they have more 305 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: personnel problems right now because of injuries than usual and 306 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: because of usage like Keanu Benton as a nose tackle 307 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: is not working. You're running through the middle of this defense. 308 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: You mentioned Heismiths gone, Derek Harmon's gone. Their you know, 309 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: their first round pick Patrick Queen is over running plays. 310 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: They are twenty seventh in DVO eight. I know it's 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: two weeks, but they haven't exactly faced a murderer's row 312 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: of offenses here with Seattle and the Jets. They've looked 313 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: completely undisciplined, kind of like the Patriots defense. On the 314 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: back end, like these have been two bad defenses to 315 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: start the year, eighteen. 316 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 5: Point two percent misstackle rate, like almost one of the 317 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 5: membery five times the Steelers have an opportunity to miss 318 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 5: to make a tackle, they missed the tackle. Yeah that 319 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 5: was John Fox that was coaching for the Denver Broncos 320 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: in that game against the Steelers. 321 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: But I guess we'll give Josh was like Joshganos didn't 322 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: have any good times there. The only good time was 323 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: getting to five and zero his first year and beating 324 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: the Patriots in primetime and then losing almost every game 325 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: after that. 326 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: But the Patriots. 327 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: It's I lean Steelers in this matchup because I look 328 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: at that game against the Miami Dolphins team that were 329 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: all kind of circling like vultures watching trying to pick 330 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 5: players that would be good contributors elsewhere like trade deadline is. 331 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: I like the. 332 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 5: Patriots were huge Dolphins mistakes like pick one, and the 333 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: Dolphins win that game to the extent where I just 334 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 5: wouldn't feel comfortable of picking the Patriots in this. 335 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers versus the pass rush is really interesting to 336 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: me because that the Patriots pass rush has been good 337 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: in both weeks. Milton Williams has been fantastic. 338 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 3: Look like they paid the right guy, right. 339 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Christian Barmore has been a little quiet, but Harold 340 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Landry's making plays. I thought Calebon Chason had a good 341 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: game last week. They have a really high pressure rate, 342 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: you know, one of the highest in the league without 343 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: having a high blitz rate, and yet they're giving up 344 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,479 Speaker 1: chunk play after chunk play because everything in the secondary 345 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: is terrible. Christian Gonzalez might be returning this week, but 346 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: it's more than one player can solve everything. I mean, 347 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: it'll help a lot, but they you pick a safety 348 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: or a linebacker and they're playing badly. 349 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: But Aaron Rodgers is not throwing the ball down the field, 350 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 4: and I think that helped. It's the Patriots case. It's 351 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: not just getting Christian Gonzales back. But if you're a 352 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: team giving up chunk plays, you do kind of want 353 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 4: to play this at least statistical version of Aaron Rodgers 354 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: who is not throwing the ball down the field despite 355 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: the enormous amount of play action and massive you know, 356 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: people on the perimeter. And DK Metcalf, for example, who 357 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: was the most successful play of the game was throwing 358 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 4: like sort of a low fade, you know, jumper to 359 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 4: DK Metcalf for a touchdown, and then the two point conversion, you. 360 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Know, lining up Darneaul Washington, Yeah. 361 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 4: Lining up Darnel Washington on the outside and basically saying 362 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 4: you're taller than everyone else here. Let me throw it 363 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 4: up really high and you come down with. 364 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 3: It like that. 365 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: Is that those were the only really truly successful looking 366 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: plays of this game, and it took them, you know, 367 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 4: piece by piece by piece to get down there in 368 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: the first place. 369 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: I'll defend Aaron Rodgers a little bit in point out. 370 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: He's had a few throws every in each game that 371 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: were awesome. I mean, he had one on his first 372 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: throw of the week last week, which was on a penalty. Ultimately, 373 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: for I think the Steelers, none of it mattered. Was 374 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: up there with the best throws anyone's made all season 375 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: on the run, like fifty yards down the field. He 376 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: can still do it. It's just that for a guy 377 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: who doesn't want to get hit like he sure is 378 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: getting hit a lot. Their offensive line's been bad. It's 379 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: a bad combination of he's getting hit, he's taking a 380 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of sacks, his time to throw is very low 381 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: and he's not throwing it deep, so it's like this 382 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: safe offense where you're still having all these bad things happen. 383 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: I actually don't think that's all on him, but I 384 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: don't know if he's going to be the guy to 385 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: fix it. 386 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 5: And he's getting rid of the ball fast and the 387 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: targets are close to the line of scrimmage, as Jordan 388 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 5: pointed out. But when there is a little bit of 389 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 5: glimpses of Rogers extending plays, things have gone the wrong way. 390 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: And I think that could be attributed to a lack 391 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 5: of cohesion and opportunity for these guys to play together, 392 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 5: like in the play where Calvin Austin gets in the 393 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 5: way of a ball that I believe was intended for 394 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 5: Pat Friyarmouth and ultimately gets picked off after like both 395 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: of them had a chance, Like they're both in the 396 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 5: same place, like they're in the scramble drill and they 397 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: run to the same spot. I think things could ultimately 398 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 5: get better, But it is a little bit of a 399 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: positive yeah, to say that Rogers is moving around and 400 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 5: extending plays a little bit, not that he's doing it 401 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 5: a whole bit. 402 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: And it won't I don't think the defenders are just 403 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: going to be in the way like you know for 404 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: the Patriots that they were for the Seahawks. Sorry, I'm 405 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: a little down right now. I just watching these linebackers. 406 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: These linebackers have to earn that week. I'm testing out 407 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: a theory. I only said that once and it was 408 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: by mistake. Robert Splane is a guy they gave a 409 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: lot of money to. I mean, he looks like he's 410 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: in slow motion. And then they're playing Christian Ellis, who 411 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: was a special teamer who was our friend Bo Wolfe's 412 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: maybe favorite Philadelphia Eagle of all time. He literally just 413 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: couldn't make the Eagles fifty three, like he wasn't good 414 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: enough to. And he's starting and playing every snap and 415 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: they look like they're playing in the nineteen nineties and 416 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: like the rest of the game is happening around him. 417 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: I feel like a little bit at their safety. They 418 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: have a rookie, Craig Woodson too, who hasn't been bad. 419 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: But it gives me a theory about Rabel, and the 420 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: theory is that Rabel leans on players that remind him 421 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: of Patriots teammates. Now, I can't give the one to 422 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: one like comparison, But these guys just seem like they 423 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: should have been on the early two thousands Patriots, you 424 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like Robert Splaine would be like 425 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: the new Ted Johnson or something like that. But football 426 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: is different now, and it's like it's passing them by. 427 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, and so are quarterbacks. 428 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: You know. 429 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 5: Maybe the Patriot way for Aaron Rodgers was having good 430 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 5: cohesive teammates the whole time and not being surly in 431 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 5: interviews for no reason. 432 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: By the way, I've successfully not gotten too excited about 433 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: Drake May's near perfect game last week. I don't know, 434 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't flashy, but it was near perfect. 435 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: I feel like you bringing it up just now reveals 436 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 4: how excited you actually no. 437 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: I about it, and I could see on Patrick's face. 438 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: I want to see it again. Last thing on this 439 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: game we should move on, is I did think it 440 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: was a good sign. They ran a completely different game 441 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: plan game two to game one. Maybe it's learning the personnel. 442 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it's Josh McDaniel's kind of doing what he does 443 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and having it like a versatile offensive scheme. 444 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: And Drake May had a rushing touchdown. He was back 445 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 5: scrambling again, which he did so good last season, didn't 446 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 5: really do it in the first week of the season two. 447 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 5: Our next game to Cleveland, where the Browns play hosts 448 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 5: to Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers, who are 449 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 5: favored by eight and a half points. 450 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: Deel Fredder is forty two and a half. 451 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 5: Carrol, I mean, excuse me, Kevin Coogler and Moose Johnson 452 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: Johnston on the call, Greg, is this the end? In 453 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: the final starting game for Joe Flacco in twenty twenty five? 454 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: Now, I'm surprised this has been such a question. I 455 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: think they're going to have more patients. And I also 456 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: think at Joe Flacco's age, if you get one really 457 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: good performance followed by one really bad performance all season, 458 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: that's like a that's under part, like that's good, that's 459 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: better than you could possibly expect. And that's what's happened 460 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,719 Speaker 1: the first two week. So I wouldn't be surprised if 461 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: he comes out and he looks as good as you 462 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: could expect against a Packers defense that is so far 463 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: made you know, some young quarterbacks look terrible this season. 464 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love this Packers defense. 465 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 4: Jeff Hafley is all the way in his bag, the 466 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: way that he used Micah Parsons in primetime just to 467 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: completely change responsibilities for blocking and change the math and 468 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 4: moving him all over the place. He only played forty 469 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 4: four of sixty five defensive snaps. I expect that number 470 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: to keep increasing as he gets his feet under him. 471 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 4: We forget when we watch him on the field with 472 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: how great he looks that he actually missed the entirety 473 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: of training camp and did not have the same ramp 474 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: up period as everyone else. He is absolutely itching to 475 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: get on the field floor. He's been very clear about. 476 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: That on that, Like, do you ever wonder if like 477 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: training camp is just very overrated the way everyone talks 478 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: about it, because quinch On Duwkins, for instance, like literally 479 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: is a rookie that's never practiced with his team, and 480 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: he signs with them and practices for the first time. 481 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: I guess he was there in Ota on Thursday, and 482 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: then he plays like a full game on Sunday, and 483 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: then you know what I mean, like they somehow managed 484 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: to like get up to speed pretty quick. 485 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: I don't think training camp is overrated. 486 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: No. 487 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 5: I think that I'm on record is, yeah, I think 488 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 5: a certain positions in certain situations, as long as you 489 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 5: used properly. 490 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little over because they make it sound 491 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: like it's so big, but then you miss the whole thing. 492 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: And when they show up from these hold outs, then 493 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase is playing like five days later, and you 494 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: know he looks great. 495 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: But this is a guy who's supposed to take them 496 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 4: to the Super Bowl playing off a like off like 497 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: being completely cold, off of laying on a training table. Yeah, 498 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: I want him to ramp up a little bit when 499 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 4: you cannot physically contact people in regular season practices. But yes, 500 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 4: to the point, I do think that, and I know 501 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 4: that I am definitely going to hear from people on 502 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: this because my error. I forgot to include the Packers 503 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 4: as one of the top five defenses I believe are 504 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: going to stay in our last episode. 505 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 3: And I don't know which order that. 506 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 4: These will publish, but I will say the Packers are 507 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: very much one of those teams for me one and two. 508 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: With the Chargers right there, this is such a fun 509 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 4: group to watch. Jeff Hafley is already getting the whisper treatment. 510 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 4: Oh how long are we going to keep him from 511 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: the local reporters out there? This is such a fun defense, 512 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 4: not just because of the talent on the roster, but 513 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 4: the way that he is finding ways to maximize every 514 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: player on this roster, even when there are questions about cornerback. 515 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: This is just really a fun group to watch. 516 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 5: And some guys have maximated, maximized their opportunity, like Kishawn Nixon, 517 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 5: who is such a big part of that. 518 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: What are they going to do? 519 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 5: Five targets at Kishaw Nixon on Thursday Night football, five 520 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: passes broken up, like the guys that were there have 521 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 5: raised the. 522 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: Level of their game. 523 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 5: And I'm wondering because I said it, as soon as 524 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 5: Miles Garrett requested a trade, the Packers should put together 525 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 5: an offer. And it is my conspiracy theory. Not really, 526 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 5: it's the same, but it's my head canon that they 527 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 5: take that offer that would have gone to the Cleveland 528 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 5: Browns for Miles Garrett and send it within their draft 529 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 5: to the Dallas Hey, Jerry, here, you're frustrated with this guy, 530 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 5: and now Miles has to look across the field. I 531 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: love it, all of this. This could be your life, 532 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 5: but you elected to stay with me. 533 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: It's true because we mentioned Fred Warner might be the 534 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year earlier, I would vote Miles Garrett 535 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: through two weeks. It's silly to just point out that 536 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is great, but like he's been so unstoppable 537 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: these two weeks. He's you know, he's got four sacks 538 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: and they were like they're flashy sacks too, but his 539 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: run stuffs are like leading the league as well. He 540 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: is just always in the backfield and he will be 541 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: playing against most likely a rookie right tackle in Anthony Belton, 542 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: who struggled a little bit in his first start. If 543 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: they don't get Zach Tom back, And you're right, he 544 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: has to be a little sick thinking about it because 545 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have even would it have 546 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: cost as much it was before the draft, h I think, yeah, 547 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: it would have been pretty pretty similar. And instead Michael Parsons, 548 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: like Brett Favre once did, is just like getting people jobs. 549 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: You know, he got Dan Quinn a job and now 550 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: he'll get Jeff a job because like, none of this, 551 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: none of this, it's all true what you're saying, Yeah, 552 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: but also none of it would happen if you didn't 553 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: add you know, the second or you know, best player 554 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: in the league. I would say these are the two best. 555 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 4: But I would say this defense was already gonna be 556 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 4: good coming into it, and I think he just what 557 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: I love about the way that Micah Parsons fits with 558 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: this group is he because of the attention he commands 559 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 4: and because of the way he can move around. And 560 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 4: like I said, Jeff Hafley's looking at this like a 561 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 4: giant math equation as well of skill sets and where 562 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: people can win and what blocking is going to happen. 563 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 4: They're using Micah Parsons the way they're moving around the field. 564 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 4: It's the way that offensive coaches use motion players to 565 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: get defenses to declare whether they're in man or not. 566 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 4: He's doing the exact same thing. The way that he 567 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 4: moves Michaeh Parsons around the field gets the offense to 568 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 4: declare what they're blocking strategy is. It is freaking cool 569 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 4: to watch. And what it does is it lifts everybody else. 570 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: It gives everybody else more opportunities to win because they 571 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: know the answer before the test even starts. And that 572 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: is really cool because this was already going to be 573 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 4: a great, great, really good defense. Now it can be 574 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: a transcendent defense because they also have the answers before 575 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: the quarterback does. 576 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: Right I think he's just like a he's a one 577 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: to one and like that he could be so successful 578 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: in all of those spots. So I don't think we're 579 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: going to learn that much about them. Unfortunately though, this week, 580 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: because the offensive line for the Browns is sneaky bad. 581 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: That was one of the things that you really liked 582 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: about the Browns during the Stefanski era, and the tackle 583 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: position is no longer nearly a strong. Joel Buttonio is 584 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: out of practice, so it's such a mismatch. Actually, think 585 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: on the other side, there is some interesting football to 586 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: be seen because the Browns defense has played pretty well. 587 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: They're especially good against the run. They Josh Jacobs is 588 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: trying to get going. This will be a tough team 589 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 1: to do it against. I mentioned Miles Garrett and then 590 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: just the advanced nature of Jordan Love this season. I 591 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: was listening to a podcast with Logan Paulson, the former 592 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: Commanders player, called Take Command. As we all know, decided. 593 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 6: To really go ahead and start Take Command. 594 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: And yes, that's just an excuse to get that in there. 595 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: I listen to him point out he was talking about 596 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: how like in the first drive of that game last week, 597 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: Jordan Love had three like check with Me's on the 598 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: first drive of the game, built into the you know, 599 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: game plan on a short week, and he was just saying, 600 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: that's not normal, Like you need to have like that 601 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: just wouldn't happen in most situations. You need to have 602 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: an offensive group that has been together a while and 603 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. Which it's weird to think Jordan Love 604 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: has a veteran quarterback, but he has been in that 605 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: system his entire career, and all the players around him 606 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: have been in that system their entire career, and so 607 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: they're just like operating at like a week fourteen to 608 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: fifteen level where most teams are just you know, gearing 609 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: up in like late preseason and stuff. So when they're 610 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: on offense, it'll at least be a little interesting. All right, 611 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we will be back 612 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: to wrap up our exciting journey through the AFC. 613 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: We're back on NFL Daily. 614 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: The NFL International Games return to NFL Network on September 615 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 5: twenty eight. Six games for cities Dublin, London, Berlin, and 616 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 5: Madrid snooze off game on for Sunday Morning Football only 617 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 5: on NFL Network, also streaming with NFL Plus subscription required 618 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 5: for NFL Plus visit plus dot NFL dot com per turn. 619 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 6: Oh. 620 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: I hear Patrick reading these promos on NFL Network all 621 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: the time. Fantasy Live Game day View, I'm like, I 622 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: want that on NFL Daily. 623 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: It is good. 624 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: Give it to me, especially one that's near and dear 625 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: to my heart. I will be in Dublin next week, 626 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: jealous mention it a couple shows ago. Most of the shows, 627 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: including this one, will be taped here and then I'm 628 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: going to be flying over for the game doing a 629 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: live show by the way, with the Irish NFL Show. 630 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: I think there's some tickets available on Friday night, so 631 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: check that out. I think I'll be part of the 632 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: toksport coverage of the actual game if you want to 633 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: listen on the radio part of Sky Sports. And obviously 634 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: doing work doing all these shows, and will be still 635 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: still do an NFL Daily. We're not going anywhere. I 636 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: might just be in a little box and you guys 637 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: will wave to me, which will be a lot of fun. 638 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 3: That won't be the gesture I will be making. 639 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: Oh how dare you? It is really exciting this same 640 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: year when when the international games start going. 641 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 5: Yes, especially our friends in Ireland exceedingly jealous. Take care 642 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: of them, Gregg as I am sure that they will 643 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 5: take care. 644 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: The expectations are high for this one. I feel like 645 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: the first Ireland game is going to be a banger. 646 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: We got a banger here in the AFC West, the 647 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 5: Denver Broncos at the Los Angeles Chargers, who are two 648 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 5: and oh. They are favored by two and a half 649 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: points the over unders forty five and a half. You know, 650 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: it's a great game because the greatest of all time, 651 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 5: Kevin Harlan is on the call with Trent Green and 652 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,959 Speaker 5: Melanie Collins Jordan do the Chargers get to three and oh? 653 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 4: The biggest matchup and the coolest matchup possibly of the 654 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: week for me is in this game. It's the combination 655 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 4: of Sean Payton and bow Nicks, and that Broncos offense 656 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: and Jesse Minter, Diane Henley, Derwin James, and that amazing 657 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: Los Angeles Chargers defense that has been absolutely lights out 658 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 4: through the open to this season and this game, especially 659 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 4: how they move and countermove against each other from you know, 660 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: quarterback versus linebacker to offensive coordinator versus defensive coordinator on 661 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 4: opposite sides. This is gonna be so much fun for me. 662 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: This is going to be for me personally to watch, 663 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 4: and I'm hopefully well. I guess I won't have this game, 664 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 4: but I wish I did. And I really feel like 665 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: this is a test for bon Nicks because he has 666 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 4: been up and down over the course of the first 667 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: two weeks. He's had a little too much dip on 668 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: his chip and won I think, tried to make things 669 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: happen that weren't really there. And he's gonna be playing 670 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: against sort of this very cloudy match quarters cover two zone, 671 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: this shell defense that the Chargers really deploy with great effect. 672 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 4: Bonix against the zone is thirty eight for fifty four 673 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 4: three hundred and forty yards, two touchdowns but three interceptions. 674 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 4: And here's where it really starts to get interesting. He 675 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 4: takes two point eight four seconds time to throw on 676 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 4: average against the zone, so he's holding the ball a 677 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 4: little bit, trying to figure out what he sees. It's 678 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 4: not that he doesn't have outlets. When he takes the 679 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: underneath outlets and the options that are there for him, 680 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 4: it's five point eight are yards per attempt, and that's 681 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 4: what has led to this seventy point four percent completion percentage, 682 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 4: So it means it's the options are there and he 683 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 4: takes them. But when he doesn't trust when he's seeing, 684 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: that's when the turnovers happen and he is he will 685 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 4: guess wrong sometimes when he doesn't know what he's seeing 686 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 4: from these zone coverages. So it's all about what options 687 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: do you have, will he see them, will he take them, 688 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 4: or will he try to press. 689 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: And do too much. 690 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: I when I watched the Bonicks game against the Colts, 691 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: I expected a better overall performance than I saw. I 692 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: think Sean Payton got a lot open and Broncos fans 693 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: are very sensitive and they're asking for everyone that was 694 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: critical bon next week one? How are you saying sorry 695 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: week two? And then he throws, you know, a game 696 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: killing interception, and I thought overall he was uneven in 697 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: that game. And so sometimes I like to just check 698 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: and I actually do fine. In terms of like grading 699 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: the quarterback position, I don't mind. PFF is one part 700 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: of the equation. And I was shocked to see this, 701 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: but it backed up what I thought that it wasn't 702 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: like a great performance, it was actually their lowest bon 703 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Nicks you know, graded passing game except for Week one 704 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: since last September, which kind of matched my eyes that 705 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: it felt like a September of last year bon Knicks 706 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: type of game. So I don't think he's out of 707 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: the woods yet. And this is such a great test. 708 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: You really said it all just testing his patients. This 709 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: is the defense that will test his patient. 710 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 2: It will test his patients. 711 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 5: I think that they were the beneficiary of a weird 712 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: performance by the Las Vegas Raiders because there's a with 713 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 5: Khalil Mack on the field for this team. And yeah, 714 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 5: like the players like Hnley's having a great season. He 715 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: had great season last year. 716 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he did it. 717 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: Still is one of the more the more dominating around 718 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage to tacklers and adjusters in the 719 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 5: league right now. But I think this is the moment 720 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 5: where if you're a Broncos team, you have to take 721 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 5: advantage of Khalil Mack being out for these four weeks. 722 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: He's on injured reserve. He is. Yeah, we haven't mentioned 723 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: that on this show that he's expected to return this season. 724 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 3: More news than they thought. 725 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, considered it like looking at him in the sling 726 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 5: and especially watching unfortunately looking at the replay. 727 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be it for Khalil 728 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: Mack for the season. 729 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 5: So that's good that he'll be back, but it's good 730 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 5: news for the Broncos that they don't have to contend 731 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 5: with him. And maybe we see bow Knicks get back 732 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: to where he excels in using his legs a little 733 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 5: bit more because that fell off and it hasn't been 734 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 5: back this season. 735 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: I want to see bo Nicks run a little bit more. 736 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm leaning Broncos here just because I have a hard 737 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: time like imagining a world where everything's going so well 738 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: with the Chargers with no can Tell I don't know 739 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: right it would be three and ohero with a two 740 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: game lead over the Broncos and the Chiefs after three 741 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: weeks and all the wins in the division. That would 742 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: be incredible. Khalil Mack, you know, being out hurts because. 743 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: Now that's the thing. But the Chargers thing. 744 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: I was worried about their pass rush overall, but it 745 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: was good against the Raiders. Tully Bolowtu was fantastic in 746 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: that game. My biggest question in this game, other than 747 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: the one you pointed out with bo Nicks, is which 748 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Stan do we get because he had an ankle 749 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 1: injury last week and he played through it. He only 750 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: missed I think one snap. It did not look good 751 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: and he didn't play well. He didn't look like Patrick 752 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: Sirtan after that. I think he gave up four or 753 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: five catches and some of them were down the field. 754 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: One was to Pittman, one was to Warrant and you 755 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: just you don't see that ever, like you didn't see 756 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: it once last season. So he just needs to be healthy, 757 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: I think, because I think that the defense is built 758 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: in some ways around Patrick Sirtan being a special player, 759 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: and there's every reason to believe he he will be 760 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy. It's more of a question 761 00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: of is he one hundred percent? 762 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 4: And you know who is playing really well all Quentin Johnston, 763 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 4: you know, So that'll be a challenge. And I also 764 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 4: expect the Chargers to start getting a couple of these 765 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: other players that the younger players, you know, going Trey 766 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 4: Harris and and you know Lad McConkie has been showing 767 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 4: up a little bit, you know, light lightning ladd as. 768 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if they have room for Trey Harris 769 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: and KeAndre Lambertsmith, like maybe a little bit but they 770 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: got like Keenan Allen's I'm shocked. 771 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 4: By right, No, that's how I was just That's what 772 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 4: I was just going to bring up. It'll be a 773 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 4: tough decision to make between these these corners in Denver 774 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 4: because keen Allen is playing like a much younger version 775 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 4: of Keenan Allen and he's playing like their one, like 776 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: their number one receiver. So this is going to be 777 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 4: super interesting, you know for the Denver Bronkers defense, who 778 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: is getting a lot of pressure. But you know, we'll 779 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 4: kind of just have to see because this Chargers offensive line, 780 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 4: despite all the shuffling that it's had, has looked pretty 781 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 4: dang good itself. 782 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the benefit for Herbert and the Chargers offense is 783 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 5: when he's able to extend the play, which is healthy. 784 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 5: Justin Herbert is always going to do Keenan Allen knows 785 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 5: where to go. Yeah, right, And you know, as much 786 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 5: as we think of Lambert Smith and Trey Harris and 787 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 5: all that they have to contribute, like Keenan Allen will 788 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 5: forget more football today than those guys may learn ever, 789 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 5: and so like that veteran presence, and yeah, he still 790 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 5: looks good, like he's ability to run the routes is good. 791 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 5: And for Quentin Johnston, like he's always been able to 792 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 5: finish plays, but the great thing for me was to 793 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 5: watch him track that ball over the shoulder and then 794 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 5: finish the play like in that particular order and not 795 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 5: try to do one before the other. And it's just 796 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 5: it's so good and every like you said, Greg, everything's 797 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 5: going great for the charge. 798 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: They compliment each other, right, Like this is a group 799 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 1: that compliments each other. I watched our friend Matt money 800 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: Smith does like an Instagram video after Chargers. Where do 801 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: you see him at the game? Oh? Right, And so 802 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: he's watching it. He's watching it, and he says, watching 803 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: those two guys lad and Keenan next to each other 804 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: because usually they're lining up on the same side depends on, 805 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: you know, on the play who's inside. Like, watching the 806 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: precision of the route running next to each other is 807 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: just incredible because they're two of the best at that 808 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: specific skill set in the entire league. And that I 809 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,800 Speaker 1: think that has a little bit of a multiplying effect 810 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: and certainly is gonna calm down, I think justin Herbert. 811 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 1: So shout out to Money who, by the way, had 812 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: a flex on this ig video that he had gotten 813 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: back from the game around one point thirty. He was 814 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,919 Speaker 1: taping the video around eight and he had already gone 815 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: surfing that morning, and his hair is wet, he's looking 816 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: looking all buff. You know, it's just everything's coming up 817 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: that much. 818 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just dedicated to doing what he wants to do. 819 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 5: If he were in position to be backstage in oaysis concept, 820 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 5: I think Matt Redy Smith would have ultimately been there. 821 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 5: Two Jacksonville, Florida we Go where the Jags coming off 822 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 5: a rough one and a loss that they donated to Cincinnati, 823 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: playing host to the zero to two Houston Texans and 824 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 5: all the promise with two close losses, Jags favored by 825 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 5: one and a half, Greg the over unders forty three 826 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,120 Speaker 5: and a half. Spirodidas Adam Marchioletta and Addikik Walla on 827 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: the call. Do the Jags bounce back after making a donation? 828 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: Hmm, tough game to pick. I think the Jags have 829 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: definitely played better overall this season. I think they're well coached. 830 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: I think they're a little unlucky to be too and zero. 831 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: I also think their offense has room to grow and 832 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: it's already been good in that this is like a 833 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: really fascinating matchup, and yet there is something about I 834 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: don't know how my brain works that looks like beyond 835 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: the x's and o's and like just thinks like this 836 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: is a big spot for Damiico Ryans and CJ. Stroud 837 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: and this organization. They were zero and two last year 838 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: actually very similar type of spot with a bad start 839 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: on their offense. They played the Jags in that spot, 840 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: a worse Jacks team, they beat them, and that helped 841 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: to turn their season around. I just think it's a 842 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: really important game in the AFC South, Like this is 843 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: a really big game, especially for the Houston Texans, but 844 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: you could look at it the same way for the 845 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Jags too, because they could put some distance in a 846 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: real well I think questions and hurt on where the 847 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: Houston Texans are as a team. If they can win 848 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: this game, I think. 849 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 3: It's a you make a statement. 850 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: More so maybe if you're the Jags on this, because 851 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: they've dropped twelve of the last fourteen to the Texans, right, 852 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 4: and obviously that's different regimes, right, So if you're the 853 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: new regime and you want to make it very clear 854 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 4: that things will be different. Now You've got to go 855 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 4: out and beat this Houston Texans team. 856 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: The Texans. 857 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Man. 858 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: I watch their defense, and I think that's real freaking 859 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,720 Speaker 4: football right there, Like that is real tough. 860 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 3: That is deep February. 861 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 4: Excuse me, deep January, early February caliber physicality. 862 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 3: That is real football. 863 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 4: And then I watch the offense and they the same 864 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 4: problems that there were before. 865 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: And I'm really. 866 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 4: Shocked because I fully expect and I know this that 867 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 4: Nick Cayley wants to build in outlets and wants to 868 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 4: run quick passes and quick throws, and I know that 869 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 4: the receivers are hurt, but I know he wants to 870 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 4: bring some of this Patriots he kind of, you know, 871 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 4: help for the quarterback and get the rhythm going and 872 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 4: stay ahead in the down and mitigate pressure and do 873 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 4: all of these things help the offensive line which just 874 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 4: still looks totally embattled. And I'm sure Seth Pain is 875 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 4: like popping a vein in his forehead every time he 876 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 4: watches this group. Yet again, I know that they want 877 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 4: to do all these things. Screen development that helps with 878 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 4: your zone runs. You can call that an extension of 879 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 4: your zone runs, and still take pressure off the quarterback, 880 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 4: And I know not having Joe mix and hurts, and 881 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 4: I know having the receivers hurt that they you know, 882 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: that they're working with that they wanted to be working 883 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 4: with hurt hurts them. But they have to find answers 884 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 4: and they have to do it quick because this is again, 885 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 4: like you mentioned it, Greg, another zero and two start, 886 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 4: where the same problems with the quarter not with the quarterback, 887 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 4: but with the system around the quarterback and with the 888 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: cast around the quarterback are hurting the quarterback. 889 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 3: And maybe the quarterback. 890 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 4: Is having to do a little bit too much, which 891 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: he wanted at the beginning of this season. But you 892 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 4: got to save that protect that guy from himself a 893 00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 4: little bit. 894 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 5: I'm willing to look past it and place the blame 895 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 5: on the schedule. I think Rams defense, Bucks defense is 896 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 5: a very difficult way to start the season versus the 897 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,439 Speaker 5: Jacksonville Jaguars, who have started against a team that's trying 898 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 5: to change some things, as well as a Bengals team 899 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 5: that loses their starting quarterback in the game. 900 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 2: That's why I lean Houston in this one. 901 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 5: And I know that you know, you folks want teams 902 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 5: in situations late in games with leads to be aggressive, 903 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 5: and we saw Monday night where that can go wrong, 904 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 5: where you end up having to have somebody chase a 905 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 5: quarterback after chasing somebody else looking the other way, and 906 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 5: then doing the same thing with Bucky Irving. Whereas this 907 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 5: Jags team, I just there was so much Brian Thomas 908 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 5: Junior conversation this week and break down. Should we listen 909 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: to what Coach Cohen had to say a conversation about 910 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 5: conversations with BTJ because I have some data. 911 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 6: Just think anybody on this team, nobody was pleased with 912 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 6: the outcome, right, and we have some good conversations, really 913 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 6: good conversations, and everybody was frustrated. But at the end 914 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 6: of the day, he's got a great opportunity to bounce back, 915 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 6: as does the rest of our team, and feel really 916 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 6: confident about that. 917 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 5: Okay, what I have here for the viewers on YouTube 918 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 5: as well as the folks the folks watching is a 919 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 5: look at some Brian Thomas Junior routes from the successful 920 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 5: weeks for Brian Thomas Junior from last season. Do you 921 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 5: guys notice anything about the direction that these routes are going. 922 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all breaking in. 923 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 5: Yeah he's breaking in, But He's doing a lot of 924 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 5: deep stuff and a lot of breaking out. So that 925 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 5: was this season, as Jordan notes the in breakers. Let's 926 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 5: look to last season and this is not Matt Jones propaganda. 927 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 5: This is where Brian Thomas Junior was running and a 928 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 5: lot of these places where he's trying to make catches 929 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 5: in traffic, that's not where Brian Thomas Junior was successful. 930 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to see Brian Thomas Jr. 931 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 5: In space on the outside, making plays, not necessarily utilizing 932 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 5: him like a tight end. 933 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 2: Hopefully they do that. But I'm still picking the Texans 934 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 2: because I do think they're the better. 935 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think their two extremely talented wide receivers are 936 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: not playing with a ton of confidence. The postgame interview 937 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: with Brian Thomas Junior was sad. Actually, the two saddest 938 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,080 Speaker 1: press conferences I've seen this year, I think our CJ. 939 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: Stroud and Brian Thomas Junior, because CJ just wears his 940 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,320 Speaker 1: emotion on his sleeve and he's frustrated and he's bummed 941 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: about what is happening right now. And Brian Thomas Junior 942 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: was asked about his confidence and he just answered it 943 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: very softly, and he has struggled, and we've talked about 944 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: this during the preseason since like day one of training camp. 945 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, him and Trevor have not been on 946 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 1: the same page. He's been dropping a lot of passes, 947 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: like from training camp into preseason, into the regular season, 948 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: and then with Travis Hunter, it does seem like the 949 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: game is coming at him a little fast where they're 950 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: having a manufacture touches, and to me, he looked a 951 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: lot more comfortable at cornerback. It did not take them 952 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: long to kind of change the plan that we heard 953 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 1: was going to be the plan. Because last week he 954 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: played forty five snaps on defense. I thought he looked good. 955 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,959 Speaker 1: I went back and watched because I'm just a sick 956 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: of his coverage snaps, and he looked more fluid and 957 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: natural I thought playing cornerback wards right now, he almost 958 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: feels like a little bit of a gadget player on offense, 959 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: which is not what I expected. 960 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 3: I have a theory. 961 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: This is not reported, but it is a theory that 962 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 4: I have, and it comes from Liam Cohen's background and 963 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 4: who he came up with in under that like early 964 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 4: versions of that Sean McVay offense where you had Cooper 965 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 4: Cup and Robert Woods and what are they doing but 966 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 4: running a route chart, a heat map that looks a 967 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 4: lot like this, the first one that you showed of 968 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 4: what Brian Thomas Junior is being asked to do this year. 969 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 4: If that's not his game, that's fine. Multiple things are true. 970 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 4: It is fine to want and need a receiver like 971 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 4: that in your offense the way that you want to 972 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 4: run it. If you eventually want to make somebody you're 973 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 4: Chris Godwin, You're Robert Woods, to even your Cooper Cup, 974 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 4: to run as sort of that f player who can 975 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 4: be the mismatch and really kind of sell out the 976 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 4: way that we see a lot of the receivers in 977 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 4: those coaching trees do in the middle of the field. 978 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: That's it's as a blocker. He is not that guy, 979 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 1: But it's. 980 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,040 Speaker 4: Fine to want that. Well, it's also true that Brian 981 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 4: Thomas Junior is that's not where his gifts are and 982 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 4: he is so gifted in other areas. Now, this is 983 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 4: a theory, and I'm not wanting to speak out a 984 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 4: turn because I'm not in the game planning rooms, but 985 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 4: like it's maximizing if you have a player who's who 986 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 4: is not good at that and not good at anything else, 987 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 4: then that stinks. But Brian Thomas Junior is so gifted 988 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 4: at other stuff that that's where I'm failing to see 989 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 4: the logic here. And I would like to see players 990 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 4: maximize to where they are most talented. And I also 991 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 4: know that this offense, when those players have those responsibilities 992 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 4: that are complimentary, that's the highest functionality, right And so 993 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 4: I can understand trying to make it work or try 994 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 4: to see if it works, but you're also not going 995 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 4: to run Travis Hunter across the middle like that. 996 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 1: You go about your system, it's it's about, you know, 997 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: getting the best out of your players because you know 998 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: a role Brian Thomas Junior is great in well so 999 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior yea like he was like a top 1000 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 1: ten receiver as a rookie, kind of in a bigger 1001 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 1: better Jamison William like year four, but he's year one role. 1002 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: That's his role is freakazoid. 1003 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 4: And I think that's where you're seeing where this Jaguars 1004 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 4: team is because again, the ideas are there. You know 1005 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 4: that the scheme is there. But if it's a square peg, 1006 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 4: round hole situation with a receiver who, like I said, 1007 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 4: is very gifted in other areas and could build confidence 1008 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 4: back in other areas. It is a sign that shows 1009 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 4: this team still has some building to do. They still 1010 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 4: need to build out their receiving corps, They still need 1011 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 4: to build out the layers in the passing game that 1012 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 4: Liam Cohen does want to have. 1013 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 3: And like I said, all. 1014 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 4: Of this is just a theory, but I feel like 1015 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 4: it's them trying to place players into things that they 1016 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 4: know work. It's just you don't quite have the full 1017 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 4: a couple seasons of drafting, even two seasons of drafting 1018 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,439 Speaker 4: to be able to make that happen. 1019 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: And weirdly, throws to all the other receivers are incredibly effective. 1020 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: Parker Washington's killing it. Yeah, Seommy Brown's killing it except 1021 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: for dropping a touchdown that would have probably won the game. 1022 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: And Breton String just killing it. So the running game 1023 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: seems very cohesive. I think it gives them a chance. 1024 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: I'm leaning Texans as well. 1025 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, so, which ultimately meets in our other show, Cynthia 1026 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 5: will beat us on a random last second Travis et 1027 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 5: in touchdown. Let's go to our final game in the AFC, 1028 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 5: where the Tennessee Titans and the number one Rod Pick 1029 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 5: cam Warder playing host to the two to zero Indianapolis Colts, 1030 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 5: who were favored about four and a half points. The 1031 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 5: over under is forty three and a half. Tom McCarthy, 1032 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 5: Ross Tucker and Amanda balionis Our dear friend is Paul, Yes, 1033 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 5: the friend of the show. 1034 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,960 Speaker 2: Greg does dimes do it again? 1035 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: I think so? I think I think this is. 1036 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 4: The right matchup for quarterback Island Greg. 1037 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: That would be crazy. But if he plays like this 1038 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: for a couple more weeks, yeah, I mean he's helping 1039 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 1: to define the position so far with big time throws. 1040 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: Now he has one of the highest rates of like 1041 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,960 Speaker 1: throwing to his first read in the league, which is 1042 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: not shocking. If you're watching these games, they are scheming 1043 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: up good plays. But what I think has gotten lost 1044 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: is so many of his great plays have been under pressure. 1045 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: Is that sustainable? I don't know, but he's dropped some dimes. 1046 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: If you watch the very first play of last week's game, 1047 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 1: it was one of the best throws I think Daniel 1048 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: Jones has made under pressure, moving to his left like 1049 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: fine Josh downs down the field while Zach Allen is 1050 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: like digging into his chest and that's like a soft 1051 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: layered throw. That's one aspect of what Daniel Jones is 1052 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 1: doing well. On his very last throw of the game, 1053 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: third and six, gotta have it under pressure again, he 1054 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 1: hits Tyler Warren in stride to get the first down. 1055 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: For some reason, Shane Stiken decided to stop playing football 1056 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: at that point. It should have cost him the game. 1057 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: It was the worst coaching move of the week. I'm 1058 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: sick of like results deciding how we look at it. 1059 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: It was an insane turtling up of Shane Steiken at 1060 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: that moment. But you know what, I look at that 1061 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 1: third and seven and think that is growth from Daniel 1062 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: Jones and ultimately, like I am trusting all the people 1063 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: around him, the system, the organization, the players around him 1064 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: to carry him. 1065 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 5: This week, Dimes has killed the blitz this season. Right, 1066 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans were one of the list blitz rate 1067 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 5: teams in the NFL. There's familiarity here with the Shane 1068 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,439 Speaker 5: Steikin situation. I'm I'm feeling good about Cam Warred getting 1069 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 5: his first win, so yeah, I was. I heard those 1070 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 5: Survivor music, Greg, I thought, I thought you might be 1071 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 5: willing to lock up the cults here. 1072 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 3: Quarterback Island music. 1073 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,959 Speaker 1: Oh it's pretty much the same music. But I'm glad 1074 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: you brought that up. I was gonna save it for 1075 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: the end of the show. I did forget to pick 1076 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 1: a Survivor team this week. It's not being Annapolis Colts. 1077 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 1: The idea it's in the name is to survive and advanced, 1078 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,439 Speaker 1: to just keep going. And so I'm taking the team 1079 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: playing the Browns once a time. 1080 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 3: Are you looking at me when you were the. 1081 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers? Now I've loved your picks last two 1082 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 1: and now shows me you're taking it seriously. But I'm 1083 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: taking the Packers. I am not taking the Colts. I 1084 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: could see that happen. That is very much a Week 1085 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: three result, like Titans getting their first win, Colts coming 1086 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: back to Earth, even if I'm not ready to pick it. 1087 00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 4: First of all, I've always taken this Survivor picks thing seriously. 1088 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 4: Just want to put that again on the record. 1089 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: You told me you weren't you didn't care at one point. 1090 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 3: That's you can't prove that. 1091 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 4: Also, So Patrick, I like the idea of like, I think, 1092 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 4: way friskier than we thought they would be. Tennessee overall 1093 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 4: team we knew kim Ward was going to be good. 1094 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 3: We hoped he would be good. 1095 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,439 Speaker 4: He's even better, I think than a lot of people 1096 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 4: on the outside we're expecting. But he'd been doing all 1097 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 4: of this stuff since college, so we kind of saw 1098 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 4: it coming. 1099 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 3: He looks awesome. His line does not. 1100 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 4: That could be a difference maker for him. But I 1101 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,280 Speaker 4: also think that the Titans defense, which has looked creditable 1102 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,799 Speaker 4: over the course of the first two games, where they 1103 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 4: are deeply susceptible, is against the run. I don't know 1104 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 4: that this bodes well against this particular Colts team. I 1105 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 4: don't know that it bodes well for the Titans to 1106 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 4: not give up a lot of points here. 1107 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: I know Daniel Jones is sucking up so much oxygen 1108 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: that nobody's noticed. Donovan Taylor's leading the league in machine 1109 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: and literally ran faster than any running back, any player 1110 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL since twenty twenty. It was Raheem Moster 1111 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: name drop for the second time in this show that 1112 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: had the fastest speed until that play by Jonathan Taylor 1113 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,160 Speaker 1: a week ago. And oh, by the way, Tyler Warning 1114 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: is leading all tight ends in receiving. 1115 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 4: Two so it's crazy they're susceptible. The Titans are really 1116 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,799 Speaker 4: susceptible on sweeps and screens as well. We saw that 1117 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 4: last week with Pukainakuo what he was able to do 1118 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 4: for an explosive gain and then one hundred and fifty 1119 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 4: rushing yards per game and the sixth highest explosive run rate. 1120 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 3: I don't think this is the Titans. 1121 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 4: Week, per se, but I do think they're still going 1122 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 4: to be fun to watch, and I love that for them. 1123 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: I think it could be they've they've done well. I mean, 1124 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 1: not that it really matters. These are the new coaches, 1125 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 1: but in this rivalry somewhat over the years, and Brian 1126 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: Allen kind of needs some positivity. The Titans fans are 1127 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 1: getting a little restless. He's he's been in the middle 1128 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,760 Speaker 1: of some bad decision making processes in each of these games. 1129 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: And they really built their team resource wise, and what 1130 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,720 Speaker 1: they talked about was important to them on the offensive line, 1131 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: which has been a liability. That's always that's always a 1132 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 1: red flag when you when your focus is struggling, you 1133 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: gotta get worried. So we'll see fun little AFC South game. 1134 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: We picked the survivor. We went through all fifteen games 1135 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:22,720 Speaker 1: and we laughed a little. 1136 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 2: I had fun I had a lot of fun. 1137 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 1: I will be back in this feed on Thursday night 1138 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,440 Speaker 1: with my little buddy, Nick Chef. 1139 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 2: Little Buddy's gonna survive. Let's have little Buddy love. 1140 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: It is absolutely happening. We're getting a lot of comments. 1141 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: That's just how I look at him, my little buddy. 1142 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,759 Speaker 1: So check us out Thursday night. We're gonna make it fun. 1143 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: Bill's Dolphins. When you don't think that the game's going 1144 00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 1: to be great, that's when it's going to be great, 1145 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: and that's when our performance is going to be great. 1146 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't laugh Arder at the Tyler Dirton joke, 1147 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: and then I'm a I'm a jerk. 1148 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 6: Uh. 1149 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: We'll see you Thursday night, Bill's Office. 1150 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: M hm