1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Line from New York City for our audience worldwide on 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Bloomberg TV and on Bloomberg Radio. I'm Jonathan Ferrow and 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: joining us now. I'm very pleased to say is the 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: US Labor Secretary, Laurie Chevesdrema, the Madam Secretary. Welcome to 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: the program, and first of all, congratulations on your confirmation. Secondly, 7 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: the jobs report a blowout jobs report, an upside surprise. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: There can be no debate about how solid this job 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: report is this morning. Where there is debate on Wall Street, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: as I'm sure you know, is whether this will be 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: the last solid jobs report for the remainder of twenty 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: twenty five. There is a lot of worry about policy 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: volatil isy. What gives you the faith the hope that 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: we will see more of the same? 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: Yan for having me and listen. This is a great 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: day for America. This is a great day for the 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: American worker, and this is a great day for President Trump. 18 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: I can tell you this, I don't expect that this 19 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: will be the last positive job report. We're going to 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: be on the ground, We're going to be working together, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: We're going to be focused on the American worker. 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: We blew it out of the water. 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: Today and again, as I said, this is a great 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: day for America. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: With Stokes down two point five percent, for Wall Street, 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: they'll struggle to say the same thing we heard from 27 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: JP Morgan in the last twenty four as you said, 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: there will be blood, no dutta for an Incelance macrob 29 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: another Wold non strategist on Wall Street, said it's obliteration day, 30 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: not liberation day. Where are we going to get the 31 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: confidence to hire in America with sentiments so beaten up 32 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: over the past month. 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 3: Well, again, I don't believe that that's a sentiment across 34 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: America when you're talking to the workforce. 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: If we grow this economy, if. 36 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: We have positive job growth, people will start to keep 37 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: more of their hard earned dollars. They'll start to invest, 38 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: they'll start to save, and I think you'll see those 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: markets respond again. The President, you know, went around during 40 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: the campaign, and he's keeping his promises to the American worker. 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: He is the president of the American worker. We align 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: on that. I'm going to be on the ground starting 43 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: this weekend in Pennsylvania talking to the American worker. I 44 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: want to know what they're doing what they care about, 45 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 3: and our report and advise the President on the positivity there, 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: and we're going to start to grow this economy as 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: we build the workforce here in America, and we're going 48 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 3: to see these numbers continue to rise. 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: We don't hear that same positivity in a recent consumer 50 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: sentiments survey. In fact, two thirds expected unemployments of worsen 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: through the remainder of the year, the highest reading going 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 2: back to two thousand and nine. These are people who 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: are anxious about their jobs, anxious about the labor market. 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: You want to see a massive transformation, You want to 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: see a huge shift, a reshuring of manufacturing. There are 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: things a lot of people want to see. At the 57 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: same time, we hear repeatedly that people are just sitting 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 2: on their hands and waiting. Who's going to do the hiring. 59 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you this, the labor market is 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: holding steady and we're growing. Unemployment is holding steady, the 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: labor demand is growing. 62 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: We're seeing that in our companies. 63 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: We're seeing the investments by major companies tens of billions, 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: hundreds of billions of dollars. The workforce, the American workforce 65 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: is going to grow, that is going to be the 66 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: key for the President. It's going to be the key 67 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: for me as the Department of Labor to protect these 68 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: American workers first and grow this economy. That's what we're 69 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: seeing across the board. So yes, we will be hiring. 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: We have to get out there and make sure that 71 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: our workforce is skilled and trained. 72 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: That's what I'll be focused on. 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: You know, John as a former mayor, as somebody on 74 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 3: the ground that matters most in all of these communities 75 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: where they are urban, suburban, or rule, and we want 76 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: to make sure that we're our supporting President Trump and 77 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: his agenda and that we're growing that workforce each and 78 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: every day. 79 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: I think out of Secretary, a lot of people would 80 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: have sympathy with the idea that a lot of manufacturing 81 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: in America has been hollowed out over the past few 82 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: decades because of globalization. They will certainly have sympathy with that. 83 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: Where they will struggle is with the strategy for this week. 84 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: When you see tariffs like forty six percent on Vietnam, 85 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: when you see retailers get absolutely hammered, you can take 86 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: a step back and just acknowledge that the way differential 87 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: between what you can earn in Vietnam and what you 88 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 2: can and in the United States is just too large 89 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: that those companies will have to accept the tariff, won't 90 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: be able to move manufacturing back to the United States, 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: and they'll have to do something about costs, which will 92 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: damage the retailer on the ground on main street in America. 93 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: It's the rollout of this strategy that people are really 94 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: struggling with. Madame Secretary, how can you guarantee that these 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: retailers won't just be laying people off and putting up prices. 96 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: In what world are they going to move manufacturing from 97 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: Vietnam and start making sneakers in the United States. 98 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this. 99 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: What we saw at the Rose Garden just two days 100 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: ago was the President talking to the American worker. 101 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: We saw who was in the audience. We saw the. 102 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: American worker there supporting President Trump. That's who he campaigned to, 103 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: That's who he believes and that's who I believe in. 104 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: These companies are going to repatriot, they are going to 105 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 3: onshore back to the United States. We want fair trade 106 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: agreements for our American businesses here as well. 107 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: That's what the President does best. 108 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: I can tell you this, he is a master negotiator, 109 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 3: and he can teach a masterclass in that. I I 110 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 3: can tell you the people who were in that audience 111 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: were excited, they were cheering him on, and they are 112 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: supportive of that. 113 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: I will continue that effort. 114 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: I will be on the ground across this country to 115 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: make sure that the President knows what's happening on the 116 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: ground and we can continue to have positive growth for 117 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: those business owners who are on the ground, because I 118 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: do understand that they put their blood, sweat and tears 119 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 3: into the businesses that they have, and the American worker 120 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 3: as well. 121 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: We're going to protect all of them. 122 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: They put their blood, sweat and tears into the ground 123 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: as well. The American farm has got to confront this 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: headline this morning that China's announcing an extra thirty four 125 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: percent tariff on US goods. What's your message to. 126 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: Them, Well, our farmers and ranchers and producers deserve our 127 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: attention as well. I'll be working with the AG Secretary 128 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: along with President Trump to make sure that they have 129 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: the necessary things that they need to make sure that 130 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 3: we are competitive on the world stage. America is number one, 131 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: it will continue to be number one, and I'll do 132 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 3: everything I can to support those farmers and ranchers and 133 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: producers with the American workers and the workforce that they 134 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: need to get the job done. 135 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: So we've got some key dates. April fifth. Baseline tariffs 136 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: go in April ninth. The bigger tariss go on the 137 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: day after China threatens to retaliate. You're the face of 138 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: the administration today. Are there any negotiations taking place this 139 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 2: weekend at a high level between China and the United States. 140 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: Well, I would imagine the President is on listen. President 141 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: Trump works NonStop. That is why he built a formidable 142 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: team like myself and the rest of the secretaries to 143 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: do our job and support him. 144 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: We will continue to do so. 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: I would imagine that the President is continuing to have 146 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 3: these conversations because he wants to protect the American worker 147 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: and the American business. We're going to make America wealthy again. 148 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: You heard him say it, and I'm going to help 149 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: him do it. 150 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: I hope you're right there are down some Wall Street 151 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: this morning, and you and I will talk again in 152 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 2: the future, I'm sure for an update, Madam Secretary, thank 153 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: you for your time. The Labor Secretary, Violet Laurie Chaves 154 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 2: de Rema Madam Secretary, thank you,