WEBVTT - Pat Perez 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:08.880 It's the Son of a Butch podcast. I'm your host, 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.719 Claude Harmon. You know the drill. We come to you 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:17.120 every Wednesday. This week's guest Hat Perez. Whether you like him, 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.840 whether you don't like him, what you do know is 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.520 you're going to get hot takes. And UM, I think 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.479 this is probably the first time with the live tour 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:29.000 being officially over, that's where Pat's making his home. UM. 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:34.559 He talks a lot about that choice and UM listen, UM, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.519 my job is and and in doing this podcast, I 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.479 wanted to try and get as many different people on 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.720 with his many different points of view about golf, about 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.239 the game of golf, and given the current state of 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:50.519 where golf is, UM, you know, I think Pat is 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.239 one of the guys that have gone there. He's got 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.040 some very very UM, like I said, he's got some 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:58.400 hot takes. UM you always. I mean, I think Pat 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.680 his entire career has been some one who has given 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.880 the golf media um what they want, which is controversy, 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:09.319 which is sound bites. And he doesn't hold back in 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.680 that uh full disclosure. UM. I'll have anybody on the 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:17.000 podcast that's in the game of golf. UM. This summer 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.880 at the UM. I think it was at the RBC 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.240 UM Heritage Harbor Town. UM. Jay Monahan came out, walked 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:26.720 a few holes with Dustin Johnson and I said to 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.160 j I said, listen, Ja, I'd love to get you 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:31.280 on my podcast. UM love to get you, you know, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.000 talking about what's going on in the PGA tour. UH 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.039 and just hear what you're saying. Obviously there's a lot 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.240 of crazy things out there. And and that time, UM, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.720 it was pre lived, but everybody kind of knew that 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.880 Live was back on UM the scene again and I 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.480 said to Jay, said, listen, I'd love to have you 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.320 come out and talk to you, talk to you about 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.680 what's going on. And he said, yeah, let me let 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.360 me get back to you. So if you're listening to Jay, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.840 we'd love to have you on. And UM, but the 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.920 was a really good interview. Listen. I work with Pat Perez. 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.360 I'm a Pat Perez fan. And you gotta remember Live 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:11.760 has been so kind of polarizing and UM, there is 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:16.880 no shortage of people talking heads players, people in the media, 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.920 UM beating the drum for the PGA tour, which I 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.080 get and you know, I listen, I listen to what 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.760 their takes are and if you're gonna listen to those takes, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:31.080 there's going to be an alternative take to that. There 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:32.760 are going to be the guys that have gone to Live. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:35.960 There are going to be the guys that went for 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.560 whatever reasons they went. And whether you agree with it, 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:41.720 whether you don't agree with it. Um, you know, life 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.360 is about choices, and this is the choices people have made. 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.320 Pat Perez has made the choice to go to Live. 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.480 I know a lot of people when Pat signed with Live, 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:52.640 they beat up on him because of things he had 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.640 said about Live and stuff in the past, and and 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.720 we get into that. So, UM, I'm excited to for 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.760 everybody to hear it. And if it changes your view, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.720 then cool. It changes your view, And if it doesn't 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.080 change your view, I'm good with that, that's cool too. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:12.639 So without any further ado, let's get to the interview 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:20.960 with the one and the only Pat Perez. So my 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:26.560 guest today, Pat Perez, Pat, Um, what a crazy year 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.720 it's been. If I'd have told you last year at 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:34.800 this time, um, all that's happened in professional golf had happened, 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.000 would you have believed it? Now? We can't actually make 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.040 it up. The fact that you know, we just said 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.640 three years ago, well even after I won, after I 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.520 won twice in eleven months, and I said, hey, by 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:47.960 the way, this isn't even gonna scratch the surface of 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:51.480 what's coming your way when you're forty six, like you're crazy, 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.720 there's no chance come out of surgery, win my third 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:58.160 tournament back, and then hey, but fast forward, there's gonna 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:00.720 be this opportunity in golf. There's gonna be another group 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.320 that comes out that is going to change the game, 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.320 and it's gonna pull a lot of players from the 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.000 PGA Tour. Like this, there's there's no chance it can't happen. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.920 It's absolutely impossible. And the fact that I was transpired 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:18.720 since since June is just unbelievable. I literally can't believe 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:23.600 it's all. Um. I just can't believe it's actually happened. 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:29.159 So it's been amazing. You've probably been the guy um 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.120 at Live who's taken as much of a beating from 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:36.040 the anti Live people as anyone. Why do you why 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:40.000 do you think that is? Well, I don't know they 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.760 you know I played you know, I had a twenty 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.880 one of your career. I played dice on the Tour. 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:46.000 I kept my card every year. You know, I was 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.800 obviously not a DJ or Brooks or you know, Roary 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.080 or Tiger Phill and all these guys, you know, but 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.599 I grew up in the Tiger Fill era. You know, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.600 I've known those guys in my whole life. They were 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.000 the dominant players always. And you know, I think people 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:02.080 to think that my career was better than it was. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.640 And you know, I'm as realist as anybody. I know 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.280 that I am in a world beating I've I've won 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.560 three times and every I love when people said, we've 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.839 only won three times, and go win once, or go 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.440 get your card really, you know, get through Q school, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:20.479 keep your card, you know, get playing the Masters, playing 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.880 every tournament that's available. I played every single tournament that's 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:26.880 been available to the game, every major, every w d 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:31.800 C century, everything. I might just go play in one event, 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:34.679 you know, let alone keep your card and then only 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.200 win three times and playing for twenty one years, and 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.120 then tell me how easy it's. You know, I'm some 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.520 timey hearing that ship and the only one three times 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.520 and only when, and only win thirty million dollars and 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.840 only win third, you know, and keep your card, every time, 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.680 and you know, I'm so tired of hearing that. But 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.479 you know that's the thing. I'm a realist, so I 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.440 know I'm not. I wasn't a world beater. But all 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.960 of a sudden, when it seems like when you get 0:05:55.960 --> 0:06:00.400 paid up front, that people expect your game to be different, 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:04.080 Like you know, you're supposed to be this world beater 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.960 all of a sudden, a sudden you're supposed to I'm 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.520 supposed to make every pot, you know, knocked down the pins, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.560 you know, and play these hard courses, which we are. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.200 We're playing hard courses, are set up hard. But you've 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:20.280 seen who's one and who's played there. The they're they're 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.560 the best players on our tour. And you know, DJ 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:25.720 and Brooks were phenomenal before they got the pe. Read 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.080 was phenomenal before he got there. Cam Smith was number 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:29.880 two in the world just when the players in the open. 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.840 I mean, yes, he's gonna be at the top. That's 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.880 the way it is. But I think when you get 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:36.920 paid up front, and if you just look at other sports, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.320 I mean, I've been through my whole life seeing these 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.560 other guys that get paid thirty million. You see these 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:46.440 basketball contracts four years four, and you don't even know 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.760 the guy's name. You're like guaranteed that guy get that 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.880 money guaranteed, Like you just gonna get a hundred eighty 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:53.040 four million dollars, Like, well, he better have, you know, 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.160 fifty five triple doubles, he better lead his team in 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.600 the championship. And when they don't, those guys don't get 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.279 beat up. But for some reason, because I'm supposed to, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.800 you know, because I got I made a ton of 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.400 money in this deal that my game was supposed to 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:12.760 be somewhat incredible at you know, almost forty seven years old. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.040 Do you think some of the negative the negative comments 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.840 towards you come from I mean I went back and 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.840 watched the podcast that you you did with Cult Knows, 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.360 you know, and you talked it was right after l 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.960 A was right when film made his comments, and um, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.480 you know, you were pretty, I mean you were pretty. 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:33.680 You were an anti LID, but you were like, listen, 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.400 I mean I think it's over. I think it's dead. 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:37.880 I don't think it's gonna happen. All of that, and 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.840 then you sign and play seven events. Do you think 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:44.680 people look at maybe some of your comments that you 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:46.720 made in the past and go, Okay, well you were 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.240 saying this at this point of the year, and then 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.000 you get an offer, and then you go. You gotta 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:56.240 remember Coulton knows and his partner cut out twenty minutes 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:01.680 of my podcast with them, and when it comes to film, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.040 I have a different hate fulfilled than most people. And 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.640 people won't know the story. I'm not gonna go into 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.240 the story again. But Phil crossed the line with me 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:17.360 that it is just uncrossable and unforgivable, and he knows 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:21.160 that he's screwed up. He apologized for the action, but 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.840 it doesn't I cannot forgive him for because I've known 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.760 film for a long long time. I've known the guy forever, 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:33.280 and the fact that when he made this action, not 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.960 only was it he had, he had intentions of doing it, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.679 he was already he knew it was gonna happen before happening, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.280 and when he did it, I was so like, you know, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:46.960 I was. I was hurt. For one. I was, you know, 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.520 I'm like, how can this guy do this and this 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:52.800 and this? So well. I didn't go into really on 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.880 cold thing, but I told her, I said, you've cut 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:00.320 out all the reasons of why I don't like film. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.599 And I said that. The other thing is that, you know, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.400 everybody thought that Phil was on the other side of 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.240 Everyone thought that Phil was greedy in this. No he wasn't. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.840 If anybody knows what's going on. Phil has been top 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.880 fifties whole career. He's been involved in all these teams 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.320 and all the things that are going on the tour. 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:18.720 He is very knowledgeable and what's going on with the tour. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.440 And he voiced his displeasure and what is wrong with 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.800 the tour. And he's a correct in the fact of 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.000 the way the tour is the way they are. They 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.800 are for themselves. They are not for the players, They 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.559 are not for you know, growing anybody else except their 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.559 own pockets. They call themself a nonprofit, yet all they 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.840 have is profit, So how does that work? Right? But 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:43.480 the thing about what I was saying is that Phil, Yeah, 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.080 Phil almost ruined the thing completely because of his comments 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.280 about the deal. And then guys got scared of like, wow, 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.120 this isn't gonna work. Now Phil's obviously turned you know, 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.040 he's saying this and this, and it could have been 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.160 a worse timing for the live group in that deal. 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.839 And then, but like I that in my interview, I said, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.800 I'm behind the tour because I didn't get it off. 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.480 I've never talked to the live group my entire life, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.199 you know. And then Tiger was against it, and this mattered. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.760 You know, Tiger has always been you know, and idol 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.320 mine and you know I've always looked up to him, 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.760 and but he wasn't four it, but I was. Again, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.920 I didn't have it again, like I said, Yeah, I said, 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.760 you offered me a good deal. I'm going because at 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.320 my point in my life, at forty six, you offer 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.080 me enough catch and I don't have to do as 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.800 much as I don't, you know, I don't have to 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.080 play as much anymore. I'm at it. And so unfortunately 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:34.120 timing for film and then because Phil and I had 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.680 a little talk funny enough, the the week before that 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:43.120 all happened, so before all those comments came out, and 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.440 then funny enough, right after I did the podcast with 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.720 Cold is when you know, I think phili is starting 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.800 to get word on, you know, things that I knew 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.520 and this and ad and so the Cold cut out 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.199 a lot of that deal. And so it's none of that. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.560 I was really against it or four I didn't know 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:01.480 enough about it obviously, and I wasn't even considering because 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.000 I didn't have an offer and talk to anybody, and really, 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.520 you know, other than you and DJ, that's the only 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.720 real reason I knew that something may have come by direction. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:13.000 But you know, the whole thing about me wearing out 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.520 Phil has way more to do with the interaction or 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:21.280 the problem that we have had as opposed to him 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:22.960 trying to beat up the tour and going after a 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.520 lot of money. So that's that's where it needs to 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:29.400 be clarifying. Do you think um, I mean, I think 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.520 we've all you know, those those of us that have 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.320 been a part of Live for the last for these 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.880 eight tournaments that you know, I went to all of them. 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.360 You you were there for seven of them. Do you 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:44.360 think that there's a misconception about what's happening what's going 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:49.400 on on on the Live Tour? Do you think people's 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.160 perception of what's happening is different than what is happening. 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.679 I think one, because it's not on TV, so everybody 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.800 thinks that's not on TV, that it doesn't count. Well, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.280 that's not that's not true. The people that kind out 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:03.040 love it, I mean, the fans have a blast it's 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.240 way different. You know. It's like it's like a mini 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.679 waste management type tournament, is what it is, because you 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.520 have only so many fans, but you have concerts and 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.880 we have all these things going on, music on the course. 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.360 Fan interaction with the players is phenomenal. It's way different 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.559 than people, you know, but people are so stuck in 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.600 the fact that these guys left the PGA Tour, so 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.160 you know it has to be terrible. We're only gonna 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.120 stay with the PGA Tour because the PGA Tour loves us. 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.160 The PGA Tour doesn't love the fans. They don't They 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.440 love them because they come out and pay money and 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.560 these kind of things. That's why the PGA Tour would 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.560 love the fan. And that's it. You know, It's not 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.640 like I don't know why if the fans came out 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.640 and actually experienced the live event like Miami was unbelievable, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.840 It was so awesome, if they would give it a 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.240 chance and like kind of see that, Hey, you know, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.800 you got Dustin and Cam and Brooks and Bryson and 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.320 Phil and and you know, Louis and all these Sergio 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.000 and all these great players playing and if we just 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.880 watched this and go get to watch great players play 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.000 as opposed to we hate them because they took this 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.400 money and they called blood money and sports washing and 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.240 all of a sudden crap that all the media has 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.360 you know, thrown at us. You know they've already been 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.200 it's already bring the rain hole. This is sports wash, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.840 this is blood money. This can't be real. You know, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:22.880 it's exhibition. It doesn't count. That's enough there. If they 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.440 would give it a fair chance, it would think they 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.240 would see that it's amazing. Yeah, I mean, listen, I 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.839 think one of the one of the things that's quite 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:34.000 sad is the quality of golf that that I was 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.920 able to see on live for the eight tournaments and 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:39.880 on and again and again. I'm I'm working on live 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:43.920 because that's where the players I coach play. So I 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.080 don't have a beef with the PGA Tour. I mean, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.880 I don't care either way. But what I think is 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.439 it's been a little bit sad is there's been some 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:56.240 unbelievable golf played. There's been some great shots hit, there 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.839 have been some great finishes down the stretch, and it's 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.160 everything is you know, it's all just it's all bullshit. 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.320 Doesn't mean anything stuff like that. And I mean, what 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:11.720 has been your favorite part? Take away all the money 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.120 part of it that everybody wants to keep talking about, 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.560 but what has been your favorite part about the seven 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.400 tournaments that you've played and what is what is the 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:25.680 thing you're looking forward to moving forward with regards to 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.680 your involvement with Live. My my favorite thing about the 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:30.880 entire deal is the team. And I love the fact 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:35.240 that that our captain DJ really embraces the team. I mean, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.960 you're talking about a guy it's gonna make just a 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.480 ship ton of cast this year. Is people don't even 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.800 understand they put If they found out the exact number 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:47.160 he made, the people would fall down dead. The fact 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.480 that he really does care about the team and he 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.840 was so excited for me playing well on Sunday to 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:58.000 help him win. I mean must have said times when 0:14:58.040 --> 0:14:59.800 he was proud, he was so happy. That is that 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.000 to me? My favorite part is the teams. Like I 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.880 told you day and day, I'm not gonna beat DJ 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.480 or Brooks or camp Smith or you know a bunch 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.880 of these players, and that's fine. But the team thing. 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.560 If I can count a couple of days to help 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.600 the team win, for me, that is awesome. And the 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:21.640 fact that I tied our two best players on Sunday 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.480 to help win the team by one, you know, burning 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.720 my second and my second and third to last hole 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.920 and then getting up and down that bucker and then DJ, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.120 you know two puttying and we win by one, Red 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.840 burning his last hole. For me to be part of 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.200 that mix to help win as opposed to shooting like 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:41.840 seventy five to cost a team by one, it would 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.520 have been just tragic. But for me, the whole, the 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.360 whole team things are crowd That's my That's literally my 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:49.880 favorite part of the whole thing is being involved with 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.440 three other players and the caddies and their families and 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.840 you know, knowing that DJ can count on me to 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.480 come through because I've had to do it three time 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.240 this year or my scores kind of had to get 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.080 it in in order for us to win. Now, people 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.200 think I shoot ad every day and I you know, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.400 I'm not helping the team out at all. And that's 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.480 what sucks is I've gotten so much ship because people 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.240 think I'm just not you know, I walked around sterday 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.640 you every day and cash nine hundred every time, you know, 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:20.600 and it's it just sucks. But at the end of 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:22.720 the day, like I said, I don't get the funk. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.440 If anybody cares they are lights it or not, or 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.720 if they actually think that's happening, I don't care because 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.960 the cash is don't coming in. But the fact of 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.880 the matter is I have helped. And on Sunday when 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.160 I needed to show up because they were four scores 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.080 counting and we all shot seventy and good shot Sevay 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.760 want and we want. It wasn't a damn thing anybody 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.800 could have said. You know, uh, Woodland and Matt Coucher 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:46.600 were up here at the Flow this week and you 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.160 know they were playing and they were asking, you know, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.040 how live wells and everything like that, and could you 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.200 know Coach doesn't you know, Coach doesn't really follow anything 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.680 other than coach. And he was like, hey, what what 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.560 what what the guy shoot on Sunday? And I said, 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.960 you know, camp Smith shot seven under and he was like, 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.560 man shooting seven under around that place. And then and 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.800 I said, Coke Crack shot four under. And you know, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.640 g Dub says, you know what, Patrio and I said, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.680 you shot two under and and Coach said, manto under 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:12.800 on that golf course with the wind and the rough 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:14.639 all the way back. He's like, dude, man, that's a 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.120 that's a good score. And I think you know, when 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.520 you look at a golf course like draw, you know, 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:25.080 for you, I mean obviously you know you wish you 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.640 had played better at times, right. I know you're really 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:32.119 disappointed in Bangkok. You got it going on Sunday. You 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.800 know you've already you know, three or four in a 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.960 role and then you know had a bogey and a 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:37.840 double on the team. You know, I know you really 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.480 felt like you let the team down. But I think 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.560 the way that you finished the year and the golf 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:49.400 that you played, um, you know, you beat yourself up 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.760 probably more than any player I've ever worked with. I mean, 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.680 I've never seen someone with the worst attitude on the 0:17:55.720 --> 0:18:01.280 golf course than you. And you know my special but 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:03.920 I talked about a little bit. I did a part 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.840 my podcast earlier that came out this week, but I 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:10.080 talked about it. I think the fans sometimes that watch 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.840 you guys play golf think that one, golf is always 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:17.800 easy for you. Two that you as players are always 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:24.879 supremely confident and always play well. Um, to play good 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:28.480 on Sunday at the last tournament when it counted. Um, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.600 do you feel like that's a as much mental as 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.439 it is technical with the stuff that you're trying to 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:38.000 do in your golf swing. Well, you know, we worked 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.080 pretty hard that week because you know, we got through 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.160 on Monday. You know, I said, we gotta fix this ship. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.720 We've gotta fix it's goddamn slice and all this other ship. 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:48.960 So we're not leaving until we get it. And once 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.000 we got the swing groove and this and that. Once 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.760 I started, once I start seeing things go the direction, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:00.000 my mental changes immediately because once I see that it's happened, 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:02.680 I can take that to the course without any doubt 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:05.280 that it will work. I don't get scared. Well, you know, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.920 I just you know, I don't want to I don't 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.200 want to take it. I took to the range. I'm 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:10.840 just gonna go back to my own ship. No, I 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.960 stick with it the whole day once I you know, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.200 Monday was good, and then Tuesday was better, Wednesday was better. 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.800 And I told you Friday night, I said, going in tomorrow, 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.320 first day with with goods as I'm ready. I'm ready, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.520 I'm mentally ready, I'm physically physically ready. And when I 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.560 started seeing these shots with the driver room and all 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.399 these other you know, these irons and the wedges, and 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.399 there's no doubt we're gonna win this match. But I 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.760 knew I could show up and I knew that I 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.280 was ready. My attitude was great because I knew I 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.560 could pull off shots and hit things that I needed 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:45.240 to at the time. So you know, I didn't have 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:47.280 to try to bail out and guide it. You're not 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.240 doing that around that course, You're not. You can't guide. 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.439 You can't bail out. You can't not. You have to 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:55.679 be able to hit. And then now that was that 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.800 whole week. We put it in and we didn't change anything, 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:00.600 and we worked on and we grinded it out by 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:02.720 Friday night. When I woke up Sunday and Saturday morning, 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.840 I knew we were ready. And then by Sunday morning, 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.960 I knew I was ready to go out and play 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.320 a really good round. 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How do you have that balance 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.200 between Okay, I'm I'm, I'm Because on the range it's 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.600 always good, right, I mean, you got a thousand golf balls, 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.919 you can always find something stuff. But when you go 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:19.919 to the golf course, there's so many consequences to the 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.680 shots that you're going to hit right, and and and 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.520 how have you been able you know, let's use last 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.760 week as an example. Okay, we had a really good 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.879 week of of practice. Right, That's something that a lot 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.359 of people listening will go through. Okay, I've had a 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:37.280 really good week this week of practicing. So the ability 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.480 to go from the driving range to the golf course, 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.399 that mental space that you have to get in to 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:46.920 do that. UM, talk me through that process for you. Well, 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.360 like I said, we were we had a great week, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.240 but every time, every time we got really got started, 0:22:52.280 --> 0:22:54.760 I kept focusing on what we need to do. It 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:57.679 was it was really being more aware of exactly what 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.080 I need to do to get in the position is 0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:01.480 that we wanted to get into. And then when I 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:04.480 got on the course for the first time a long time, 0:23:04.560 --> 0:23:07.920 I was really more aware of what I had to do, 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:11.800 not necessarily worrying about the consequences, but worrying about, Okay, 0:23:11.800 --> 0:23:14.919 I've got to get it started this way off the 0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:17.080 ball so that I will get to hear and if 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.399 I if I do that, it will be good. But 0:23:19.440 --> 0:23:22.640 if I missed one last week, I knew what it was. 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.040 That was kind of the difference I was. I was 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.080 so much more aware. Uh you know, we had thousands 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.640 of balls on that range on on Monday the Friday, 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.280 and I was very aware, and we did our drills 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:35.040 and we worked on it. When I got to the course, 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.080 I kind of gave it another couple of seconds to 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:40.320 think about, Okay, this is how it has to go. 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:42.600 Instead of getting up like a normally do and just 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:46.920 hit it. So it wasn't necessarily the the consequence I 0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:50.719 was thinking about was the It was the It was 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:55.359 the you know, the process of getting it too. You know, 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.199 what we were doing on the range so that I 0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.000 knew I could hit those shots on the course, that 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.680 that's where I was. It was really a where what 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.680 we've worked on all week, and then by the time 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.600 game time came around, the process was just still the same. 0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:10.960 So mentally I was a much better place thinking about 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:14.080 just what we had worked on. You know, you're a 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:17.320 really fast player. You've always played really really fast. Your 0:24:17.320 --> 0:24:20.359 personality is you know, people see your golf swing and 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.320 your your your game kind of match your personal Do 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:28.760 you think sometimes that the speed which you play can 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:33.120 maybe take away some of the process of what you're 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.800 trying to do. They can, And I thought, I thought 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.199 last week I played a little slower, you know, I 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.000 slowed down a little bit because you know, with that course, 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:42.760 you really got to be precise on where you're going. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.760 So it's night talked about more lines, where are we gone? 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.800 And then you know I was actually making more practice 0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:51.919 swings with my you know, trying to get my position 0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.000 and stuff like that, which I don't usually do, but 0:24:54.040 --> 0:24:56.280 I knew I had to concentrate more on that to 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.720 hit this shot that I was looking for. And I think, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.879 you know, just overall, I had an a whole different 0:25:01.480 --> 0:25:05.200 version of myself on the course as far as preparation, 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:09.639 mental preparation, you know, you know, prep before each shot 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.520 and kind of visualizing what I had way more visualizations 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:16.359 what I thought was going to happen on each shot. 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.000 The shot you hit, you know, I talked about it 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.520 on on on the podcast I put out earlier this 0:25:22.320 --> 0:25:25.760 last week. Um, the shot you hit on nine the ninth, Hold, 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:28.680 what was nine to part three? Um, you were finishing 0:25:28.760 --> 0:25:31.640 on you you started on twelve, so you're finishing your nine, 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:36.200 ten eleven, So nine the distances one, it was two 0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:38.960 or seven, two or seven of the labs right off 0:25:39.040 --> 0:25:41.520 the lab, and we knew it was a perfect six iron. 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.360 And I told you it's got to trust this ship 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:46.000 this time, I said, you know, because all fucking week 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:50.480 got hit it over there, laughed, laughed, laughed. I'm it's 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.560 not time to hit a laugh. Yeah. And there's water, 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:56.120 I mean there's missing to the right, there's water. There's 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.080 nowhere to miss it to the right. No, no, I'm 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:00.880 swinging out to the right. Are are our deal? Let's 0:26:00.880 --> 0:26:04.159 swing out to the right. And I just said, you 0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:06.000 know what, I'm going with it, and I got this 0:26:06.119 --> 0:26:08.080 is the time I've got to hit the shot. And 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:11.560 it came out like a laser and it just held 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:13.960 dead straight, and then the wind didn't touch it and 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:16.680 didn't drawn and fade. It was just a dead straight 0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:18.800 laser right where I was talking on the l that 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:22.360 was black behind on the on the stands back there, 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:26.280 I go, that's that shot. Was unbelievable. And then do 0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:28.520 you feel that path when you hit a shot like 0:26:28.600 --> 0:26:31.399 that under pressure? We stand up and you say, okay, 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.119 this is a shot I need to hit right. Everybody, 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.320 during the course of a round of golf, especially at 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.800 the professional level, there's going to be a shot that 0:26:39.880 --> 0:26:41.880 where you have to stand up and say, all right, 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.879 if we're gonna win this golf tournament as the team 0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.440 it was a team competition, I've got to stand up 0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.120 after you hit that shot. What's going through your mind? 0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.359 Are you saying to yourself? Is it relief? Is it 0:26:54.000 --> 0:26:57.000 I can do that again? Is it? What is what? 0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:58.879 What are you saying to yourself in your head as 0:26:58.880 --> 0:27:01.960 you're walking off between you've just executed the shot the 0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.520 way because I think so many people listening they beat 0:27:05.600 --> 0:27:09.399 themselves up about the good shots. Right they stand up, 0:27:09.400 --> 0:27:11.440 they hit a good shot, and they'll say, oh, now 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.800 I hit a good shot, you know now, and they 0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:19.400 don't take any real positivity and embrace what they've just done. Yeah. 0:27:19.440 --> 0:27:23.040 I took it as the work and paid off. I 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.199 put in the time. I put in the work I 0:27:25.320 --> 0:27:27.760 needed to hit the shot. I trusted him and I 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:30.600 hit it. So I left they're feeling, you know what, 0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.760 I deserved that shot. I did my time, I put in. 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.800 You know, that's why I put it all that time, 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:38.800 was to stand up there be able to hit that shot. 0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:41.320 And I was happy. I was happy, you know, I 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:45.119 felt like, yeah, I felt like it was deserved. And 0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:47.800 so then you go to so then the tent toll 0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:51.160 now the opposite water all the way down the left 0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.560 hand side, kind of a dog leg around the corner. Um, 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.200 you know, not around the corner, but just a dog 0:27:56.280 --> 0:27:59.520 leg from right to left. Um, you've got to stand up, 0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.800 you know it. If you bail one out to the 0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.960 right with the driver, you know, the roughest brutal it's 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:09.240 and and you stood up and you hit another really 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.760 really good shot. Do you do you think that the 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.359 shot before and the mental space that you were able 0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.840 to get into to say, okay, I've just got to 0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.240 stand up and trust what I'm doing allowed you to 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.639 make a really aggressive, good drivers swing on tent. Yeah. 0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.720 You know, Plus we hit how many drivers? The driving 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:31.679 range where we were hitting was, I mean probably fifty 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.280 yards from where that t shot was. It was the 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.840 same direction, was the same wind, So I hit a 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.160 hundreds hundreds of driving with that same wind. So I'm 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:44.960 thinking to myself, it's the same as a driving Roos almost. 0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.560 You know, we had our when we had our fare way. 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.520 We picked those two trees in the rage, so I 0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.080 visualized those two trees. I'm like, it's gonna start off 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.360 this one and it's gonna draw. So I had all 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:58.160 that once again go back to the vigitalization, and all 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.600 those thoughts from fifty are the right of me. I'm thinking, Okay, 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:03.600 the water's out there, I'm just gonna turn it off 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:05.120 this I'm gonna work it with the shape of the 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.160 of the water. And it came round at the center 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.000 and it was exactly what I had visioned, but again, 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.000 what we had worked on for six days to get 0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.640 to that point. It wasn't necessarily, it wasn't relieved. It 0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.000 was I deserve that because I put in the work 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.160 and I trusted it and I did it. I stand 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:24.520 up there, you know, I stood up there and showed 0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:30.000 my balls. And that was in fucking Poe. Um. We've 0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.440 we've heard a lot about this divide between you know, 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.400 the guys that are stolen the PGA tour the guys 0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:37.120 that have gone to live. Um. I was in the 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.880 car with you, um when we were going out on 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:46.280 Sunday night, and you know, Padrick Harrington messaged you. You said, 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.120 you've got a message from John rom. Um. Have there 0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.320 been other players that are on the PGA tour that 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.640 I've reached out to you now that the season's over. 0:29:55.320 --> 0:30:01.160 I got a text from Justin Thomas Monday boarding because said, hey, man, 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:04.560 I'm so happy for he congrats that to night. And 0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.080 I was like, you know, that's pretty cool. You know 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.640 I think I think like with with like rom and Justin, 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.200 I think they see the look this guy played twenty 0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.760 one years you know, you know it could be towards 0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.000 the end of his PJA Tory career more than likely. 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.920 But the fact that he gotta he gotta break. You know, 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:26.440 he showed up on he showed up on Sunday, shot 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.720 seventy on Durral. You know, I think they just recognized 0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.760 that I've played well. And you know, everybody knows DJ 0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.640 is the guy and Cam's the guy in this and now. 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.880 But I think people have realized, you know, hey, here's 0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:39.840 a guy, you know, because that's kind of been a 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.920 you know, average player's whole career and grinded it out, 0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.800 kept his card forever, got to DIB and he got 0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.840 a break, and he had to show up on Sunday 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.280 to help his team, and he did. I think I 0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:55.280 think those guys realize, you know, I'm not a threat 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.080 to Justin Thomas or you know, any of those top players, 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.760 you know, Scheffler and all these other guys. They know 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.960 I'm not a threat tongue. But and they can't really 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.280 be mad that I left, because you know, if you 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:06.880 look at the breakdown, right, I'm not gonna be and 0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.280 I would never be in the pit. I wouldn't be 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.520 in the sixties. I'm not gonna get five hundred grands, 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:12.400 I'm gonna make more math and you know I'm not 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.280 qualified for the five thousand. So it's like they see 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:18.120 a guy going, Hey, you know, this guy grinded it out. 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:21.360 He's on DJ's team. DJ's obviously the world beater, you know, 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.479 for his team, and this and that. I think they 0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.960 just saw his Hey. I think they were generally happy 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.760 for me that I showed up, and they don't see 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.680 me as a threat, so they're like, I think they're 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:33.240 just genuinely happy for But it was nice here and 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:37.480 I heard from Web Simpson, Aaron Badley, um, the same thing. Congrats. 0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:40.720 You know, I thought it was pretty cool. I thought 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.760 it was pretty cool, you know, because justin Thomas, you know, 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:45.120 he's he's a world player, he just played phenomenal in 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:47.920 the President's Cup. He's he's a phenomenal player. You know, 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.080 it's phenomenal. But he's obviously anti Litt, you know, for 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.200 whatever reasons he is. And that's fine, it's fine. But 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.640 the fact that he reached out and and you know, congratulating, 0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.760 I thought that was I thought that was pretty I 0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.480 think it's a little bit like other sports. If you play, 0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.160 if you played any downs in the NFL that they 0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.720 talk about, there's a brotherhood that if you played in 0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:11.560 in you know, in the NFL, if you played in 0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:15.880 Major League Baseball, if you played in basketball. UM, I 0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.560 think that the thing people ask me all the time, 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:23.360 you know, Live PJ Tour, and you know, I'm a 0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:25.800 fan of golfers. I'm a fan of golf swings. I'm 0:32:25.800 --> 0:32:28.720 a fan of watching golfers hit shots. And I think that, 0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.959 you know, regardless of I remember when Brooks was still 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:38.760 playing on the Challenge Tour and UM in thirteen he 0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:41.960 qualified for the the Open Championship. He and Peter u 0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:45.480 Line qualified and they played a practice round with UM. 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.360 They played in the money games of Phil and and 0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:51.720 Ricky Fowler. Uh my dad was working with with with 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.200 both of them at the time. Still went on to 0:32:53.240 --> 0:32:56.400 win that week at Mirrorfield. But we played a practice 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.040 round and they're playing the money games. So Peter and 0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:03.600 and and Brooks are playing Phil and and Ricky and 0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:06.320 you know, Phil was he was like, man, this this 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.680 kid looks you know, this book skin. He looks pretty good. 0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:12.200 Where's he playing? I said, you know, he's playing on 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.680 the Challenge Tour. And I said, listen, he hasn't done 0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.320 anything on the on the European Tour yet or the 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.800 PGA Tour, But I said, you know, he's playing on 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.880 the Challenge show and he's shooting a lot of really 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:24.200 low scores on the Challenge Shore and Brooks was he 0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:27.479 was shooting, you know, sixty two, sixty three, sixty fours 0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:30.120 to win, and I said, yeah, I mean, it's the 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.320 Challenge Shore and Phil will never forget this, he said, 0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:35.479 Golf is golf. I don't care where you're playing. If 0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:39.040 you're shooting low numbers, it doesn't matter if it's high 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:43.560 school golf, college golf, a tour here or tour there. 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:46.920 The shots are the shots. The you have to hit 0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:50.240 the shots. And I think that, you know, it's cool 0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.000 that those guys reached out to you because they understand 0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:54.880 that they have the same job that you've got. Right, 0:33:54.920 --> 0:33:57.920 you're trying to play competitive golf for a living, and 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:02.840 anybody that thinks that that's easy is mistaken. I mean, 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.360 I think sometimes I think the people listening in the 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.440 fans think golf is a hell of a lot easier 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.760 than you guys do that play it for a living 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.759 and that are the best players in the world. Yeah, 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.240 it's not easy. It's not easy at all. Nobody, nobody 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:21.359 plays professional a level. Any tour has these You're still 0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:22.800 trying to meet the guys that are around here. It 0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.920 doesn't matter if we're not playing against the thomas Is 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:29.080 and Rory's and Rohm's every week, we're still playing against 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:32.719 DJ and and Sergio and and and uh, you know, 0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:35.920 Cam Smith and these guys. I mean, it's it's it's 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.799 a different tour. But I think, you know, people gotta 0:34:38.800 --> 0:34:43.920 realize that it just is what it is. And then golf, 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:47.839 you know, you said the golf is golf. It's it's unfortunately, 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:50.719 the unfortunate thing is where the game is right now. 0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:54.719 It's unfortunate that you know, we couldn't have come to 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.399 more of an agree agree. But I think I think 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.759 Monahan's completely fuck this whole thing up by not at 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.719 least taking a call from the Live group, Like I 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.160 told you, yeah, they what he's done. What he did 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.400 was turned down our money. And I've told us to 0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:12.399 multiple players, SA, if you don't take a phone call 0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:14.880 from a company or a group that wants to invest 0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.719 billions of dollars into it, at least listen to it. 0:35:18.520 --> 0:35:20.600 You know, at least take the phone call, listen to 0:35:20.640 --> 0:35:22.759 it and go, hey, why don't we think about this, 0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.719 Let's see if it's good for us? This and that. Okay, fine, 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.319 at least we get at least we get a look 0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:29.840 at it. But the fact that he didn't, you know, 0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:33.879 and I think it's gotten so so divided now unfortunately 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.560 that I just don't. I don't see any repair him 0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.680 at all. So do you, I mean, do you think 0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:41.960 that you know? Because I get asked a lot of questions. 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.160 You know, where does golf happen? Where does it go? Now? 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:48.120 Do you think that there will now be two tours? 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.279 They'll be the PGA Tour and the people that play 0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.799 on that, and there will be the live guys and 0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:56.400 the people that play on that tour, and there will 0:35:56.440 --> 0:36:00.200 be separate because originally, I think a lot of eyes 0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.080 at the beginning. You know, when we were in London. 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:04.840 You know you were part of the lawsuit. You backed 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.600 out of that. Um do you do you regret being 0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.640 part of the lawsuit? You know? I do, and I 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.840 don't because the only reason I joined it was not 0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:14.640 to go back for the PJ tour. The only reason 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.480 I did it was too back you know, there's two 0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.759 guys on my team and then there was basically some 0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:23.799 other friends that we're fighting for it now, but I 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:25.560 wanted nothing to do it. That's why I pulled out, 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:27.839 you know of it, because I'm not interested in going back. 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.680 I knew once I decided that I was leaving the 0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:34.120 PGA tour, I was done forever. I don't have the 0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:37.480 name or the fight to go to the tour saying look, 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.000 you guys need me, I need to be part of this. No, 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:43.160 they don't need me at all, just like tour players 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.040 are on there, they don't need any of them. So 0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.840 you know, I knew that leaving, So yeah, it was 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.080 unfortunately got thrown in the mix, but I pulled out. 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.800 I got a text from Brian Harmon saying, hey, thanks 0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:54.960 for you know, pulling out less. I said, Brian, you 0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:58.400 know you and I talked for hundreds of hours on 0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:02.560 the tour about where is all this goddamn money going? 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:04.960 Where is everything going? Why are we at a pocket? 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.200 Where's all the spots of money? Where's all these things? 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.440 Thats and I have fought for twenty years in that 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:12.840 tour for the things that you finally have gotten. So 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.319 you know, and people know that. You know, I've been 0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:18.760 I was out there so long. I always asked Monahan 0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.279 and a pastor and all these guys, where the hell 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:23.520 is on the money going? Why are we at a pocket? 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:25.920 How can you guys are flying around you know, G 0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.000 four and stay at the Ritz and eded Morton's every night, 0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.200 you know, and the players are worried about missing the cotton, 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.880 being out seven eight grand, But you guys standing there 0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.920 together every Sunday giving away you know, twelve to fifteen 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.360 million dollars to charity, which totally wrong. I'm on for charity, 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.239 I'm all for it. It's great what the tour does 0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:45.920 for the communities, but why not take care of everybody 0:37:45.920 --> 0:37:48.720 that's helping you get that money away? Why is everybody 0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.680 out you know, why are seventy five guys going all 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.160 with the holder pocket? And that kind of piste me off. 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:57.319 But yeah, you know, the lawsuit thing is I think, 0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.520 you know, I understand why I got like Phil. You know, 0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.799 he's got lifetime exemptions. You know, with forty six wins, 0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.920 I understand why he's met he has earned the right 0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.720 to do that. But you know, once again, everybody leaving 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.799 should have known that Monahan was dead serious about when 0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.359 he said it three times, when you leave, you're gonna 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.160 be suspended. Maybe I was the only one to thought 0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.080 that because I knew once I left, I was gonna 0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:20.480 be done. And that's why, you know, we had multiple 0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.839 conversations during during London, like I've got to make sure 0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:25.840 that I'm gonna be part of this for a minute, 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:29.320 because I know I can't go back and my career 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.480 on the on the PGA Tour and the Champions Tour 0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:33.800 is over. So that's why I was a little hesitant 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:35.880 out of the game. But you know, and I thought 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:37.719 I'll back the guys in the lawsuit, but it was 0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:39.279 it was stupid. I shouldn't have done anyway. I don't 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.759 want to do anything part of that because I don't 0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.200 want to go back to PJA Tour. You know. I wish, 0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:49.040 I wish it could have been something earlier in time, 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.920 that maybe it could have worked where everybody could have 0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.160 got along. But it's just not gonna happen now. Unfortunate, 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.200 it's not an appen I saw a rock a mediate 0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.880 yesterday on a podcast we're saying, you know, he he 0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.680 he thinks that the guys that live you know should 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:07.400 just say thank you, because, um, everything in their life 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:12.439 has happened because of the PGA Tour. There is an 0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:15.920 argument to be made, path that the tour, the PGA Tour, 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:22.360 offered you and everyone else an enormous opportunity and a platform. 0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:25.399 And there is a sentiment of I think a lot 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.839 of people that are still on the PGA Tour that work, 0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.719 you know for the tour in Pontovidra, that listen, we 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:39.440 gave you this platform and you should be thankful for that. No, 0:39:39.600 --> 0:39:42.440 I understand, And I I said in my when I 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.480 pulled up interview, I said, look, I said, I thank 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.560 the tour. They gave me a one wonderful opportunity for 0:39:47.640 --> 0:39:50.720 twenty one years to play on the tour. But again 0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:54.359 they didn't give me anything. They gave him. You don't 0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.919 make any money. Yeah, I said, they gave us an opportunity, 0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:00.440 they created something that's amazing that you can play professional 0:40:00.560 --> 0:40:03.319 golf and played for all. This mightunus this, but yeah, 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:08.240 I mean, it's always it's it's I mean I've always 0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:12.239 thought that without the without the players, there is no 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:17.120 PGA Tour, right and and to me, um, if I 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.160 was going to be critical, of the PGA Tour. Listen, 0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.880 I was never a player. Um so I'm just speaking 0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:29.440 of my experience. It always struck me that the tour 0:40:29.560 --> 0:40:33.040 thought that they were the product, not the players. It 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:36.680 always struck me that the tour made every bone feel 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.040 like and and we did it right. We we called 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:44.600 we called everybody that worked jamnahand Andy Pasner and Ross 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.799 ber Litt. But we we as as people on the 0:40:47.840 --> 0:40:52.040 PJ we call them the tour. But you're you were 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.120 the tour. When you were on the PGA tour, You 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.160 and and Rory McElroy and Jordan's Speet and all of 0:40:57.200 --> 0:41:00.239 the people that played. You guys were the two And 0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:04.400 I think one of the things that live his coming 0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:08.879 in and and for the first time they're being competition. Um. 0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:11.719 I think people are realizing that, wait a minute, we 0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.640 were treated as specifically. We've heard a lot. I've experienced it. 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.960 I know you have as well a lot of people 0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.960 that ask me, this is what is so different about 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.799 being on the live tour versus the PGA Tour. I've 0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:30.680 got my own faults on that. Taking the money part aside, right, 0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.400 because everybody knows, you know, people got paid, right. People 0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.760 some people got the bag, you know, Brooks, DJ Phil. 0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.320 They secured the bag for life, which I don't have 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.840 a problem with. I don't have problem with Rory McElroy 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:48.480 flying around in the plane that he flies around with 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.640 his initials on the engine on the back, and Tiger 0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.000 as well, because they they're not giving those things away. 0:41:55.719 --> 0:42:01.239 You can you can't, You can't you with Nie with 0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:05.000 Ernie Els, did Tiger Woods did all the great players. 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.720 You can't do that without being a great player. Um, 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.360 what hit you felt has been the main difference in 0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:16.880 the way that you feel playing live versus playing on 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.920 the PGA Tour. And nothing to do with the money 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:21.480 side of things. No, No, it's not the money that 0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:23.680 I feel like that. It's a group that actually cares 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.080 about me, and they cared about all forty eight of us, 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.280 and the caddies and the coaches and the families and everything. 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:31.840 I mean, you know, alright, bring it up, but you 0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.960 know you had you know, I had a problem with 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:38.080 one of these goddamn caddies. Caddy stole money twice from 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.240 me out of my wallet. I found him. FBI report, 0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:45.040 police report. Doctor I was on Mona. Hans asked Paszers 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.439 asked for years on this ship, and all they kept 0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.960 tom is well he didn't see him actually take it, 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:54.239 so you know this, but we can't take his livelihood 0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:58.279 and let him take my money. So you're protecting him like, oh, 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.759 you're protecting well, you know, it's not really like us. 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.440 It's just there was a situation where a case all 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.880 my money and they were never behind me. I was 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:12.000 always fucking pissed that they never tried to help out, 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:14.239 never thought about. But if I was a big enough name, 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.719 he would have been gone. The good thing on that 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.399 deal is that he will never be on the lip. 0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.480 We've already we've already secured that they'll never be I'll 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.080 never have to see him again because they'll never be 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:28.480 on the lip, which is phenomenal. But it's just it's 0:43:28.520 --> 0:43:30.680 a little ship like that. Then if you had a promise, 0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:34.719 it's you know, we gotta let's see what we can do, 0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:37.920 you know. It's yeah, we don't know, we don't we 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.880 don't think it can help down And it was always 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:43.480 that way the live group with Norman and and and 0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:47.279 everybody part. They can't do enough. They can't help enough, 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.520 you know, and unless they I need to be catered 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.479 to know, I don't need anything. I don't. I'm easy. 0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:52.840 I don't. I don't need a lot of ship. But 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:55.480 if I actually have a legitimate question and a problem, 0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.200 they can't do enough. But they've already kind of covered 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.640 it all. The way they treat us, the way everything 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:07.960 goes into it, the caddies alone, you know, everything, flights, hotels, transportation, food, everything, 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.480 the term us, the way they're set up everything at 0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:14.239 the tournament. It's just it's it's it's pretty good. It's 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:16.360 really good. But to go back to your original you 0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:18.880 had a question today about you know, about the two tours, 0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:22.839 it's actually three tours. Now you have the Lift Tour, 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.279 you have the elite of the PGA Tour, and then 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.560 you have the other schedule. What's the other nine of 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.319 the guys are going to play for? Which is a 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.000 lot of the Island Tour, you know, and all these 0:44:33.000 --> 0:44:35.319 other all these other deals. If you're part of the 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.239 sixty and the p I P you're basically in your 0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.520 own schedule, and then the rest of those guys that 0:44:39.560 --> 0:44:41.799 aren't are another tour, and then you have the Lift 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:44.319 tours going forward into when you know in twenty three 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:48.279 and four, it's astical gonna be three tours. I mean, 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.160 obviously you have your own feelings about personally about Phil, 0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:55.640 but I mean the things that Phil talked about that 0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:58.799 he thought we were wrong with the PGA tour and 0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.920 where they could make changes. Do you feel like a 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.400 lot of the things that he brought up he's been 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:07.040 vindicated on because all of a sudden, you know, there 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.000 is a earned assurance program on the PGA Tour so 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:13.040 that if you don't make enough money, you've got money. 0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.759 The the European Tour, the DFE World Tour today just 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.440 did the exact same thing. A hut hundred and fifty grand, 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:23.560 you play fifteen events and stuff like that. Um, it's 0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:28.600 naive to think that without I think anybody that thinks 0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.080 that all of this would have happened that live never 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.520 come around. I think we're never gonna happen. It was 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.560 never gonna happen. We can ask him by first, but 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:37.320 I'll tell you where it all happen. I'll tell you 0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.600 the fault and the problem is the players in the past. 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:45.239 You know, deadheads like Fred Couples, you know those assholes 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:49.080 that that could have done all this back in the 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:52.440 day and said, look where your product we're bringing this 0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:55.239 all to you. Where is the money? Why are we 0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:58.879 not being taken care of? You know? And they want 0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.960 to be mad at us. All the are players. They 0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:02.520 want to be mad at us because this all this 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:05.360 showed you know, this all showed up. But they should 0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.600 be mad at the PGA tour as well for going 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:10.879 you're guaranteeing these guys money. Now you're doing this, You're 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.799 doing this, You're giving him a p I P. Think 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.560 about how much Fred Couples Davis loved, you know, all 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.839 these guys back in the day, John Dailey. Think about 0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.560 how much John Dayley would have made the p I P. 0:46:21.280 --> 0:46:23.719 I mean fucking with one every year, right, who was 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.800 more popular than John Daly. He's still he's still probably 0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.560 arguable top five name in the game today. They still 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.040 want to see him play. So how much what do 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:35.040 he made the p I P? You know, how do 0:46:35.080 --> 0:46:37.920 you win two majors and not get picked for the 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.319 Ryder Cup team? I mean who they who ever won 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:45.440 a major didn't play the Ryder Cup twice? You know, 0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:48.640 So there's all these other players. They should be mad 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:51.520 at themselves. You know, they want to talk about us 0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.279 and this is that. But isn't an amazing how it's 0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.560 always the guys that played a long time that then 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.960 took the money and like, oh, these guys are greeding 0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:00.760 this this, But none of those guys care about anybody 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:02.800 that played like three or four years that around of 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:05.640 the game, right, No one cares about those guys, you know, 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.960 the names in the past. But it's it's funny to 0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:12.040 me that it's the older generation that could have started 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:13.879 this a long time ago, going, why are you guys 0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:15.759 are giving away all this money to charity? You know, 0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:17.800 we're driving it out for a hundred eighty eight thousand 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.640 dollars first place, you know, last places, sucking Ford Ran. 0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:23.960 It's not the expenses changed. The expenses are still the 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.759 same amount. It's just the money has gone through the 0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.120 roof because of you know, because of Tigre really and 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.400 then but now all these players are making so much money, 0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.640 and then what are you doing? You give them more money? 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.200 So it's the this this two these older guys that 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.320 couples in love and all these other guys should be 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:46.160 madder in hell at both tours. One the fact that 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.000 all these limp guys are making so much but now 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.680 the PGA tour is gonna take care of all these 0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:54.320 kids that are making a fortune and the older generation 0:47:54.520 --> 0:48:00.319 got nothing. That's the literal matterfault. Let's take a quick break, yeah, 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:09.279 and we are back. You live in Scottsdale. I live 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.680 in in Jupiter, UM, you know, which is filled with 0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:17.840 people that currently play professional golf um on the PGA 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.440 Tour on live. And then there are loads of people 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.160 in both those towns that used to play on the 0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:26.400 PGA Tour that like you said that, you know a 0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:29.440 name that springs to mind here that you know that 0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.920 that we see all the time, who was a really 0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.399 good player, Steve Marino. You've got to think a guy 0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.200 like Steve Marino is looking at what's going on on 0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:40.920 the PGA Tour going where where was this when I 0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:44.879 was playing? Where was this when I got injured? Right? 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:47.880 Exactly like my boy Robert Gergas he text me on 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:51.160 he said, could grasp him so happy for he got done. 0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.240 Here's a guy that's struggling like hell to get into tournaments, 0:48:55.280 --> 0:48:57.160 make cuts. You know, this is how he played. He 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.040 played tour fifteen years. I think to talk at this 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:04.040 ship about him, No, not at least nobody. They don't 0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.359 care there, right, now the tour it cares about their cash, cows, Wo's, 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.360 other Mcaroys and Shuffler's and Thomas and you know. And 0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.279 that's fine. But if you're not in that sixth year 0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:15.480 the p I P and they don't give a damn 0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:21.080 about you, I promise you to where where do you 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.920 think lives next year? At this time? Do you think 0:49:24.200 --> 0:49:27.040 do you see a TV deal in the future? Do 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:29.799 you see more players? I mean Greg Norman just came 0:49:29.840 --> 0:49:33.160 out yesterday and said that they're they're identifying more players 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:35.040 that they'd like to sign up. Do you think that 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:43.640 people are going to be surprised in November of um 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.799 at where live is relative to where it is now 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.319 or do you think that people will be saying, see, 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:52.120 I told you so, I told you it wouldn't work. 0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.759 I told you that it wasn't gonna be what it 0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:57.920 was gonna be. It's gonna work. It's gonna work because 0:49:57.960 --> 0:50:00.480 one they have the cash and credit target lights out. 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:04.040 The tour doesn't. The tour is banking on all their sponsors. 0:50:04.360 --> 0:50:06.400 They had to go this route. They had to go 0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:09.160 to these elevated events and make whether they say not, 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.239 they're they're not forcing their players to play. But they 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:14.279 are because these sponsors that the tour have are not 0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:17.799 going to continue to write these huge as checks if 0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:19.919 those players don't show up. The great thing about lives, 0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.920 you know, you know roughly when we get there are 0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:25.320 new players coming, and there's some there's some good names 0:50:25.360 --> 0:50:27.520 coming that all foury of those guys are gonna play 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.640 all fourteen weeks. That's guaranteed. So and then on again, 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.359 the tour copied that that model of an elevated event 0:50:34.440 --> 0:50:37.480 twenty million nothing. They copied the whole thing. All this 0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:39.480 money's coming out p I p O. It's some the 0:50:39.520 --> 0:50:41.960 craft care to. It's just a directly said it's a 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.359 direct copy of what they lived in. They of course 0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:48.960 they they copy that. But I think they're either gonna 0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:51.480 make a TV station or they're gonna get on. But 0:50:51.520 --> 0:50:54.439 they're gonna get TV because there's always only people gonna 0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.239 do around and going brow. We've got we've got this 0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.759 event going on which has one major winner, the PGA Tour. 0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.040 Well you've got this event over here that's got fifteen 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:05.680 major winners. Then they're not on TV. We've got to 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.360 get this on TV. It's gonna happen. And three you 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.160 gotta know the Live group, they're so far ahead of 0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:11.840 what they thought they were gonna be after eight events, 0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:14.600 you know, with Phil stupid comments in February and all 0:51:14.600 --> 0:51:17.319 that stuff, and then people getting kind of scared, you know, 0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.000 then everybody's signing, and then what happened after this eight 0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:24.080 events has been unbelievable. And I don't see him slow down, 0:51:24.880 --> 0:51:28.000 you know, the you know yaster and margin. They are 0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:30.400 so excited about where they're at and going forward, and 0:51:30.440 --> 0:51:32.520 they know they have this vision of you know, the 0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:35.080 Formula one model that's going to take place now, the 0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:39.359 team aspect is gonna start on next year. I think 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:40.880 by the end of twenty three, I think this thing 0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:46.440 is just flying. Do you think that in ten years 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:51.400 will look back at this as being bad for golf, 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:55.399 for professional golf or good for professional golf. What's bad 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:58.440 about it is that they could have joined with the 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.000 PGA Tour. That's what That's the bad thing. I think 0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:06.239 in the end, that's where the decision was gonna It 0:52:06.360 --> 0:52:08.279 was bad. I think the fact that you didn't even meet, 0:52:08.400 --> 0:52:10.920 you didn't take the phone call again, you just shoot 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:13.920 him away, and then they thought, oh, these guys aren't 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.759 gonna leave because we're the PGA Tour. They're not gonna 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.560 leave us. We're the big dog. No one's leaving us. 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:23.000 The money doesn't matter. Okay, well that was obviously false. 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:27.480 I think I really don't know. In ten years, I 0:52:27.520 --> 0:52:29.640 don't know what, you know, whether it's gonna be good 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.840 or bad. It could be a little bit of both. 0:52:33.440 --> 0:52:38.000 I think that's unfortunate that you know that, you know, 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.680 we've taken so much ship over the last five months, 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:42.719 and the people are just mad because they're mad for 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.799 whatever reason, you know, if they think everybody's overpaid, and 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:53.440 you know, you know, it's the money aspect of it. 0:52:53.880 --> 0:52:58.680 For me is it's so interesting to watch people talk 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:04.120 about that fixate on Hunt. But the football stadiums in 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:08.600 the NFL are filled baseball stadiums. People go watch basketball, 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:14.600 people go watch They're now paying college athletes, UM, the 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.640 colleges in in in America. You know, the money that 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:24.280 Alabama brings in for amateur football, not even professional football. 0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:28.000 And nobody has any problem with any of that. And 0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:32.720 so and then obviously Tiger Woods coming out and talking about, 0:53:33.040 --> 0:53:35.520 you know, where is the incentive to have to practice 0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:39.359 and play with guaranteed money? UM? That's the stupidest server 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.040 heard my life, because that as one of the stupidest 0:53:42.040 --> 0:53:45.279 things I think he has said. The incentive is the 0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:49.000 fact that last place is a d thousand, first places 0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.480 four billion. He cannot win four million on the PGA Tour. 0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.719 Next year, you might will they finally up the purse. 0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:59.040 But last time I checked, he's signed a forty million 0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.279 dollar deal right at a college was flying on the 0:54:01.400 --> 0:54:05.319 Nike jet he found in senator to go. He could 0:54:05.360 --> 0:54:07.480 have shut it down right then. He did. He did 0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.719 pretty good with all the guarantees up front. He had 0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:11.319 a lot of guarantees, you know what, and he was 0:54:11.360 --> 0:54:14.400 the hottest thing. He's made so much money off the course. 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:17.160 He found it and sent him to go. But again 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.480 he only played how many tournaments he didn't go? I 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.719 never saw him John Dear never saw him, you know, 0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:26.480 supporting all these events that you know, he played the majors. 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.520 By the w G season, that was it. He played 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:32.680 Tori never played Riff. You know. It's like, but he's 0:54:32.719 --> 0:54:35.040 worth every time. In fact, I guess that he's two 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.759 billions short of where he should be. I think for 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:41.319 guys changed the game first phenomenals. He was you know, 0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:43.759 and the best part, but you'll never see another guy Kim. 0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:45.399 And the same thing is, you'll never see another guy 0:54:45.400 --> 0:54:48.759 like Phil. There's nobody playing the game today that we'll 0:54:48.800 --> 0:54:51.960 have forty six wins as great as Wordy is. Do 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.239 you think he's gonna win twenty two more times or 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:58.160 whatever the hell it is? Four? No, I don't see it. 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.719 He's gonna catchman majors. Rory should have fifteen majors by now. 0:55:02.200 --> 0:55:04.080 You know, that's how phenomenal he is. I mean, he's 0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.319 the best driver in the ball I've ever seen it. Ye, 0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:10.520 you know, but maybe he's gonna happen. But yeah, this 0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.360 is like this has also been like a rebirth for 0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.640 him because he's been so mad, right, he's so mad 0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:17.759 at what happened and this and that, And he wins 0:55:17.760 --> 0:55:20.480 the FedEx, he wins Congrete's number one in the world. Again, 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:23.479 I think Roy's got a whole different drive on what's 0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.480 going on. He could be number one for who knows 0:55:25.480 --> 0:55:28.320 how long. I mean, that's how phenomenal he is. But again, 0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:32.480 I you're just not You're not gonna see those kind 0:55:32.480 --> 0:55:35.520 of players because the incentive, the incentive, the fact that 0:55:35.600 --> 0:55:39.240 you can go from like second place or eight teams 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:41.919 places have a great Sunday and go from making two 0:55:42.560 --> 0:55:47.040 grand a four million. You cannot do that anywhere. So 0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:49.000 that's the incentive. I mean, you've been out there. You 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:51.440 were out there every week like I was. You see people, 0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:54.000 guys are everyone's grinding as hard as they ever have 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.080 in their lifetime because not even that you can go 0:55:57.120 --> 0:56:01.120 from making a hundred sixty grand to like one million. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:06.200 It's very hard to do on the PGA Tour. Listen, listen. 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:11.000 I mean the money argument. Um, you know, the PGA 0:56:11.080 --> 0:56:13.400 Tour and j and a lot of people have leaned 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:19.440 into trophies and legacy and all of that and majors. 0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.400 But you and I both know that as soon as 0:56:22.400 --> 0:56:26.280 you win a major championship, right obviously as a player, 0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:31.080 it two huge, huge, I mean, it's it's amazing. But 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:34.320 you also know that that's going to allow your agent 0:56:34.520 --> 0:56:38.839 for the next five years to bring in a lot 0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:43.360 of money. People that played all over the world always 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:45.680 wanted to come to the PGA Tour because you knew 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.479 that if you played on the PGA Tour, yes you'd 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:52.359 have an opportunity to win memorial, Yes you'd have an 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:56.480 opportunity to play it toy all of the iconic golf courses. 0:56:56.800 --> 0:56:59.160 But at the end of the day, you know that 0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.480 you win five times in Asia, five times on the 0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:06.279 European Tour, five times in South Africa, you and five 0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:12.320 times on the US Tour, on the PGA Tour. You know, financially, 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:16.800 there is a massive, massive reward for that. Yeah. I 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:18.800 asked the player after he won the US Open. I said, 0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:20.920 you know, what do you think that was worth? He 0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.520 told me the numbers. So yeah, that's that's gotta be nice, 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:25.760 you know, because it's worth back. So I go, man, 0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:28.400 that's that's nice. That takes care of you forever. You know. 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.320 But but you know, you talk about theyone talks about 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.800 legacy and all of sudden crap. I mean, it's it's 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:35.720 such a joke. I mean, right now, there's there's two 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:39.240 guys that are, you know, Hall of Fame legacy guys, 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:41.960 and you know one one doesn't play and one's on 0:57:42.000 --> 0:57:44.760 our tour, and you know the other guys are working 0:57:44.800 --> 0:57:46.960 that way. There's there's top players that are working that way, 0:57:47.000 --> 0:57:49.280 but they gotta win a certain amount of majors before 0:57:49.320 --> 0:57:52.600 they really considered the people consider them you know, in 0:57:52.680 --> 0:57:55.960 the argument of top ten or you know, all time players, 0:57:56.000 --> 0:57:58.920 and a lot of them just aren't there yet, but 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:00.120 a lot of them think they are. There's a lot 0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.560 of tour players out to I think they are unbelievable 0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:06.200 with three or four wins and no major because they're 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:09.120 making so much money that they think that they're better 0:58:09.520 --> 0:58:11.680 than you know, the players of the past who won 0:58:12.120 --> 0:58:17.080 ten to twenty times. You mentioned the team element of this. UM. 0:58:17.120 --> 0:58:22.680 You've basically played every single practice round UM since June 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:26.680 with Dustin Johnson. UM, you warm up next to him. 0:58:26.800 --> 0:58:31.480 You've probably spent as much time around DJ as anybody UM, 0:58:31.520 --> 0:58:35.240 as a golfer, as someone that is trying to do 0:58:35.400 --> 0:58:39.400 the same thing that he's doing. UM, how cool has 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:43.400 that been? And to watch him and the way he plays, 0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:47.440 and and to watch up close pat the way that 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.600 I mean, if you could design a golfer both physically 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:57.440 but mentally, the way that he plays the game is 0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:01.200 so much fun to watch its way. But he's got Yeah, 0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:03.920 it is, It has been. It has been really funny. 0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:05.800 I got done TJ a lot of the last couple 0:59:05.840 --> 0:59:09.200 of years, you know, when coming closer, but then they haven't, 0:59:09.640 --> 0:59:11.360 you know, he wanted me to his team and to 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:13.479 spend as much time as I have. Honest, like you said, 0:59:14.200 --> 0:59:17.240 it's unbelible with his prep work and the things nothing 0:59:17.320 --> 0:59:20.320 bothers him, and his routines he does, and the way 0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.920 he looks at things. Nothing negative ever comes out of 0:59:22.920 --> 0:59:25.960 his mouth. And to watch him hit the driver and 0:59:26.040 --> 0:59:29.200 hit these long irons and hit these shots like man, 0:59:29.240 --> 0:59:32.840 you can see why he's been so dominant. You know 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:36.120 why he is such a phenomenal player. Can't toamny six 0:59:36.200 --> 0:59:38.960 four strongs and ox his hands and you know, like 0:59:39.000 --> 0:59:42.560 a vice. He's just he's flexible, he's I mean, it's 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:48.160 just he's unbelievable to watch playing and uh, it's so cool. 0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.520 And you know that, you know, he's still one of 0:59:50.520 --> 0:59:52.000 the best players in the game. I don't care what 0:59:52.120 --> 0:59:53.680 stats they or with none of that crap. I put 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:56.520 him against anybody that's playing right now. You know, he 0:59:56.600 --> 0:59:59.560 just took down you know, he just I would put 0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:02.720 him against anybody's playing the game right now. And the 1:00:02.720 --> 1:00:04.320 other thing that I don't think DJ and I say 1:00:04.360 --> 1:00:06.920 this all the time and people think I'm crazy. Um, 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:09.800 I don't think DJ gets enough credit. He's the ultimate 1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:13.120 field player. And you just don't think of him as 1:00:13.200 --> 1:00:16.320 being a field type guy. Now he wants the greens. 1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.600 He wants the greens as fast as possible. You know, 1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:22.200 if you look at whose one Augusta and the U 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.880 s open too fast as you can possibly play, you know. 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:28.360 And he loves act. He likes to drip them down 1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:30.720 and just drip him in. I'm the opposite like to 1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:32.960 you know, like the Bank of Man. That's why I 1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:36.960 never played well and you know anywhere. But you know, 1:00:37.520 --> 1:00:39.960 he is, he is unbelievable. His routine is the way 1:00:39.960 --> 1:00:42.640 he does things every day, his focus, you know, he 1:00:43.120 --> 1:00:45.840 does his workouts, he hits his wedges for forty five 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:48.280 minutes and then he gets in and it's an all 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:51.840 day affair for him. And here's a guy that signed 1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:54.440 for a ton of cash up fun and you know 1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:57.320 he made a made a ton on the course. When's 1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:01.000 the individual And still Brian's like he's trying to get 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:04.000 his tour card for the first time. Yeah, I mean, 1:01:04.000 --> 1:01:07.680 it's it's been, it's been. Interested Back to incent of 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.400 what's the incentive. The incentive is that you can actually 1:01:10.480 --> 1:01:12.760 know and because it doesn't out of money, incentive is 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:15.320 that you can make, you know, I mean you look 1:01:15.320 --> 1:01:19.000 at you look at what you know. DJ made, you know, 1:01:19.040 --> 1:01:22.560 eighteen million on the individual, another seventeen on the course 1:01:23.440 --> 1:01:26.760 and in that eight weeks there's plenty of the center there. 1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:28.800 You can say it's not about the mind money that 1:01:29.280 --> 1:01:32.200 it is there. It's there. Yeah. And the one thing 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.280 I find about golf is is there is this kind 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:41.360 of weird thing that you know, you hear stories all 1:01:41.400 --> 1:01:44.040 the time about a guy that you know had to 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:46.680 you know, sleeping in his car and was working it, 1:01:47.320 --> 1:01:50.280 you know, Walmart to try and you know, pay to 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:53.080 go to Q school and stuff like that, and you know, 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.880 you know, sleeping you know, on his parents couch and 1:01:56.480 --> 1:01:58.680 everybody you know, for some reason in golf everybody goes, 1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:00.440 oh man and then a great story. I'm like, no, 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:03.880 that's not a great story story. It's not a great 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:08.320 story that a guy had to Basically, there's the kid 1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:10.600 that um the guy that works for us. In Dubai 1:02:10.640 --> 1:02:12.760 Su John Su John saying played on the Asian Tour. 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:16.480 He teaches for for me now at my academy in Dubai. 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:18.840 He played the Asian Tour. He was a really good 1:02:18.840 --> 1:02:21.520 player still is. He came to the live event Saudi 1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:23.919 Arabia and was walking around the practice grounds and he said, man, 1:02:24.480 --> 1:02:27.640 I missed this so much, you know, playing professional golf. 1:02:27.880 --> 1:02:30.520 I just ran out of money. I didn't have enough 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:34.520 money to continue to play. And we hear stories like 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:38.120 that Pat all the time and in golf, and everybody goes, oh, man, 1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:40.400 what a great story. It's not a great story. It's 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:42.840 not a great story. You shouldn't have to mortgage your 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:46.440 house and sell your car to go to Q school. 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:49.680 You know that. That's and that is the biggest I 1:02:49.680 --> 1:02:51.600 can't believe they got rid of Custa anyway. For the tour. 1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:53.880 The tour is making so much money on that. You know, 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.520 when I wanted was fifty grand first place. Ten thousand 1:02:56.520 --> 1:02:59.840 Africans paying five grand? What the hell are that money going? 1:03:00.760 --> 1:03:03.120 Where's all that money going? But you know, I hear 1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:05.520 all the time like but I can never figure out. 1:03:05.560 --> 1:03:07.360 And this is why people get so pissed about the 1:03:07.360 --> 1:03:10.240 money things with guys taking money, and that's a For 1:03:10.320 --> 1:03:14.760 some reason, it's become the norm that golfers are supposed 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:18.480 to absolutely earn every penny that they make, and if 1:03:18.520 --> 1:03:21.880 they don't play well, they don't get paid. Welcome. The 1:03:21.960 --> 1:03:25.280 Lakers started off holding five and all those guys are 1:03:25.320 --> 1:03:30.040 making three to five hundred thousand a night, and it's 1:03:30.080 --> 1:03:35.520 like going over going over seven. That spens basketball though there. Yeah, 1:03:35.520 --> 1:03:38.200 they're guaranteed money. I don't understand why the golfer is 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:41.920 supposed to be on such the struggle bus for so long, 1:03:42.440 --> 1:03:45.800 and there's so many more guys that are not making 1:03:45.840 --> 1:03:49.080 money than there are guys on top making a ton 1:03:49.120 --> 1:03:51.400 of breath. And all they've done now the tour, all 1:03:51.400 --> 1:03:53.880 they've done is just separate the fact of here's a 1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:55.960 bunch of guys who are gonna make a shipload of cash, 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:59.120 and you guys are gonna make fucking you know, a 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:03.000 millimeter more cash. That's it, So good luck to you all. 1:04:03.840 --> 1:04:06.160 I just don't get it. I don't understand why, oh man, 1:04:06.600 --> 1:04:10.160 that last pot cost him seventy grand he missed it. Yeah, 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:12.680 guy finger all the fucking lay up and missed it. 1:04:12.840 --> 1:04:16.080 The cost the damn thing. He got on the fucking 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:18.120 he went and had He went and had fucking steak, 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:22.000 got on the private plane drinking dom sham, flew to 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:24.640 the writs of the next city. No problem. The other guy, 1:04:24.760 --> 1:04:28.080 he fucking you know, missed the cut, he gets back on, 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:32.400 goes southwest, fucking see sixty eight, you know, gets on, 1:04:32.880 --> 1:04:36.200 free bag of peanuts, half a drink. I mean, it's 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:39.320 I don't understand why this struggle they said, Oh, we 1:04:39.480 --> 1:04:43.120 respected so much more. I know you don't, but you don't. 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:45.400 You fucking love that story because you watch the guy 1:04:45.400 --> 1:04:48.919 that's actually struggling. You loved the people love to see 1:04:48.920 --> 1:04:51.880 a struggle. That's wyeah. And then then the other thing 1:04:51.920 --> 1:04:54.200 that I think you know that we talked about it, 1:04:54.240 --> 1:04:56.600 that's different. You know, the struggling part of it. You know, 1:04:56.640 --> 1:04:59.520 you've got all the counties that you know from. You 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:04.000 know that have You know, in my opinion, you know, 1:05:04.320 --> 1:05:07.120 one of the hardest jobs anybody thinks carrying that golf 1:05:07.120 --> 1:05:10.000 bag around, you know, walking you know all the holes 1:05:10.040 --> 1:05:13.040 you guys walk, but you had caddies when they were 1:05:13.400 --> 1:05:15.720 still on the PGA tour. You these are grown men 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.800 with families trying to put trying to share an airbnb 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:23.440 and rent one car and all of this because they've 1:05:23.480 --> 1:05:26.840 just got to try and find some way to limit 1:05:27.200 --> 1:05:30.240 the amount of call set. There isn't a company that 1:05:30.280 --> 1:05:32.160 you can work for that if they send you to 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:34.400 another city. If you're a salesman and they send you 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:38.040 in another city, you don't pay for that of the company. 1:05:38.600 --> 1:05:41.520 That No, But it's also like, oh, this struggle is 1:05:41.560 --> 1:05:44.520 what builds character, makes you appreciate it, and this is 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:47.479 what builds you in your career. Fucking Tiger signed forty 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:50.280 million rather the gate floated on on a private plane. 1:05:50.800 --> 1:05:54.919 He's okay without the struggle. He didn't struggle, right, guy 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:58.360 became a superstar overnight and just escalate it all the 1:05:58.400 --> 1:06:02.040 way to the top of the top, never looked back. Okay. 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:04.400 He didn't struggle phills the same way Phil want a 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:08.120 tournament as an amateur. He didn't struggle sign who knows 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:10.640 whatever the hell he signed out of college boom all 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:13.760 the way to the top. So it's not about it's 1:06:13.800 --> 1:06:16.640 not always the struggle. Oh, it builds character, you know, 1:06:16.880 --> 1:06:19.120 driving like me and ate struggle for twenty three weeks 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:21.800 on the Buy dot Com tour the world, fucking twenty 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:25.360 three weeks NonStop. It didn't build anything. It's just all 1:06:25.400 --> 1:06:28.600 we had. That's all we had. Didn't Oh my god, 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:32.000 I missed those days and funk that idea, you Kidney, 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:35.240 But I miss any of that ship that was fucking miserable. 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:40.040 Last time I'm drinking. Last I had seven thousand dollars 1:06:40.040 --> 1:06:42.640 with a wine in the fucking brisket. Now that's the 1:06:42.640 --> 1:06:44.840 ship I want to do. Okay, that's what I want 1:06:44.840 --> 1:06:47.959 to do, not fucking drive twenty three weeks across the tour. 1:06:48.400 --> 1:06:52.440 I built character. No, I didn't build ship. Did did 1:06:52.640 --> 1:06:58.200 h your caddy winning the closest to the hole at Sawgrass? 1:06:59.240 --> 1:07:01.080 Did that build? You gotta tell this story. This is 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:04.520 a great this beauty this year. This is two that 1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:07.520 other fifteen island hold of TPC. This is the epitome 1:07:07.560 --> 1:07:10.360 of the fucking PJ tour. This is the saddest thing 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:11.840 I've ever heard in my life. And I was so 1:07:11.840 --> 1:07:15.200 fu kissed. I'm still mad about it. So every year, 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:18.680 you know, on seventeen, there's a box out there is 1:07:18.720 --> 1:07:21.680 the Bruce Edwards you know box they don't need money 1:07:21.680 --> 1:07:23.840 to cancer and great and that's you know, it's wonderful 1:07:24.360 --> 1:07:26.200 you put money in this box. And then at the 1:07:26.280 --> 1:07:29.400 end the caddy players, all the players put in mind 1:07:30.280 --> 1:07:32.640 there was a two one dollar and I got a 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:34.919 good idea put the one dollar. And I'm not gonna 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:37.680 say his main bell. But anyway, so agent to the 1:07:37.760 --> 1:07:40.880 three feet seven inches a funk. I'm going crazy. This 1:07:40.960 --> 1:07:42.640 is fucking awesome. It's towards the end of the day. 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:47.440 You know, win wins, I'm going crazy. Is phenomenal. Well, 1:07:47.520 --> 1:07:50.480 come weeks ago, bock, guys, I forgot to ask the 1:07:50.520 --> 1:07:52.920 tour and then the tour matches that right, yeah, no, 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:54.439 but this is yeah, this is the only thing because 1:07:54.400 --> 1:07:56.400 I'm asking a couple weekstad. I go, hey, I said, 1:07:56.560 --> 1:07:58.520 you know, what do you do with the cash? It's 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:02.640 good ages, real, you know, kind of straight. Lace doesn't 1:08:02.640 --> 1:08:05.400 really wouldn't really say anything. I said, we didn't do 1:08:05.440 --> 1:08:08.080 it all that fun cash. It wasn't cash I got. 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:13.640 I got a check in the mail at ut So 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:15.960 what the fund are you talking about? Who's cash in 1:08:15.960 --> 1:08:19.240 that box? Yeah? You know, I found out the tour 1:08:19.800 --> 1:08:23.360 they mastered, they doubled it, and they gave it to 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.280 charity and wrote this big story that they matched the 1:08:26.400 --> 1:08:29.040 six you know, they put sixteen th four hundred and 1:08:29.320 --> 1:08:31.680 two dollars and they wrote and then they got to 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:33.560 write it off. But I had to pay tax on. 1:08:34.160 --> 1:08:36.960 I go, you're fucking kidney. I got on the phone. 1:08:37.240 --> 1:08:40.320 I called any pastor, and I wore his fucking ass out. 1:08:40.360 --> 1:08:43.280 I said, you guys are the biggest chicken dick motherfucker's 1:08:43.280 --> 1:08:46.080 I've had in my life. I said, you fucking took 1:08:46.160 --> 1:08:50.160 our cash and gave him a check and made him 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:53.360 pay tax on our cash. And you wrote this big 1:08:53.400 --> 1:08:56.320 fucking story about how you're giving sixteen down four hundred 1:08:56.320 --> 1:09:00.040 dollars to the Bruce Edwards cancer deal making yours to 1:09:00.040 --> 1:09:01.800 flickery sad. Why don't you put the whole story of there. 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:04.960 You took our cast, which is basically a hundred dollars 1:09:05.200 --> 1:09:08.760 that my hunter became twenty, and then you made the 1:09:08.880 --> 1:09:12.559 caddy pay tax on that to help you're not your 1:09:12.680 --> 1:09:16.400 tax exempt status, to help yourself. I mean, I've sucking 1:09:16.439 --> 1:09:18.479 one of these guys out. I was so pissed about it. 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:21.840 And then every year I kept telling players, don't put 1:09:21.880 --> 1:09:25.000 money in that box, just give them give the hundred 1:09:25.000 --> 1:09:27.240 dollars to the caddy when you see him. It got 1:09:27.360 --> 1:09:30.960 so bad that this year there's a credit card machine. 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:34.559 Now there's no more box. That players kept they quit 1:09:34.640 --> 1:09:37.160 doing it, and they the ladies name is Kathy, she 1:09:37.200 --> 1:09:39.000 goes you gotta put your credit cards. I'm not putting 1:09:39.000 --> 1:09:40.800 the fucking thing in that deal. I said, I'm gonna 1:09:40.800 --> 1:09:42.600 get it. No, no, you you have to. This is 1:09:42.640 --> 1:09:45.400 how we do it, I said, Cathy, I know the scam. 1:09:46.120 --> 1:09:48.080 This goes back to one of the biggest scams I've 1:09:48.120 --> 1:09:51.400 ever seen, you know. But funny enough, I'm not surprised 1:09:51.439 --> 1:09:52.519 at the tour. This is how they do it. So 1:09:52.520 --> 1:09:54.120 now you're supposed to put a credit card in so 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:56.760 that they can do it that way. I'm like, you 1:09:57.000 --> 1:10:00.280 fucking chicken dick bastards. I have never even hard of 1:10:00.360 --> 1:10:02.680 something like this, and you guys have pulled it off 1:10:03.000 --> 1:10:07.960 for how many years now? Lastly, Pott obviously, um, you 1:10:08.040 --> 1:10:11.080 know you've mentioned that more than likely your PGA tour 1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:16.400 career is over. Um, were there any courses? This is 1:10:16.439 --> 1:10:18.560 a legit question because I know there are courses that 1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.559 you won't miss, right, and I know what they are, 1:10:22.320 --> 1:10:26.080 exactly what those courses are. Are there courses and tournaments 1:10:26.200 --> 1:10:30.000 that that that you're going to miss. I'm gonna miss 1:10:30.040 --> 1:10:32.120 Tory because I grew up there. I'm gonna miss riv 1:10:33.000 --> 1:10:34.840 because I think it's one of the greatest courses in 1:10:34.920 --> 1:10:42.360 all American And really, other than that, you know that's all, 1:10:42.400 --> 1:10:43.720 I got in a gust every year, so I'm not 1:10:43.720 --> 1:10:45.719 gonna miss that one. I would love to play there again, 1:10:45.800 --> 1:10:49.400 but um, you know that that's that's kind of it, 1:10:50.000 --> 1:10:52.200 you know, Ribs Ribs one. I'm gonna miss this year, 1:10:52.840 --> 1:10:57.920 sure as I'm gonna miss this TBC Scottsdale. Um, you 1:10:58.000 --> 1:11:00.080 know my Coba this week. I'm kind of sad to 1:11:00.600 --> 1:11:02.720 wonder a couple years I've I'd love to play there, 1:11:02.840 --> 1:11:07.360 but you know there's there's not too many I'm gonna 1:11:07.400 --> 1:11:13.080 mess not too more at all. Um, congratulations. I mean 1:11:13.240 --> 1:11:15.120 a lot of people. And I can say that because 1:11:15.160 --> 1:11:17.360 I know, you know, I get crushed at any time 1:11:17.400 --> 1:11:19.880 I say anything positive about anybody on Live. But I've 1:11:19.880 --> 1:11:22.519 seen you put in the work, and um, you know, 1:11:23.040 --> 1:11:25.920 I'm excited to see what happens in three What are 1:11:25.920 --> 1:11:28.160 you gonna do? This is the other thing. You now 1:11:28.280 --> 1:11:31.920 have three months off? Right, lives got three months off. 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:35.040 We just saw Rory McElroy after winning at Congaree, going 1:11:35.080 --> 1:11:36.639 back to number one in the world, and his press 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:40.559 conference say golfers need a break. You're actually the guys 1:11:40.600 --> 1:11:43.920 on Live are actually going to get a real break now. Um, 1:11:44.240 --> 1:11:47.040 probably the first time in your professional life that you 1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:50.519 get time three months. Um, it's been about yeah, it's 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:53.760 been six what what what are the plans for the 1:11:53.880 --> 1:11:57.960 three months? Well, I'm gonna drink this week, Uh, celebrate 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:00.600 our win. It's fucking call that side. So I'm not 1:12:00.640 --> 1:12:04.280 going outside either. But I do have to get I 1:12:04.400 --> 1:12:05.720 got a lot of things to do that which I 1:12:05.760 --> 1:12:07.880 haven't a bill to do forever. I've got I gotta 1:12:07.960 --> 1:12:10.280 organize so much ship. I've got three massive storage you know. 1:12:10.320 --> 1:12:13.280 It's I got all these goddamn shoes. I gotta organized. 1:12:13.320 --> 1:12:16.240 I'm you know, I'm gonna spend time with the kids. Um, 1:12:17.280 --> 1:12:20.080 you know, Ashley, I'm gonna you know, continue to do 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:23.320 peloton and probably try to work out some you know, 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:25.960 I get a program and and you know in place. 1:12:26.080 --> 1:12:28.680 But really I've got until February, you know, but it 1:12:28.760 --> 1:12:31.040 warms up. I've got a couple of member guests. I'm 1:12:31.040 --> 1:12:32.600 looking forward to playing. I'm looking in a Vegas a 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:35.920 couple of times. Uh you know. But about in mid December, 1:12:35.960 --> 1:12:38.439 I'll really started hitting hard again and working on my 1:12:38.560 --> 1:12:41.639 game and and you know, get stronger, and I'm really 1:12:41.680 --> 1:12:43.880 excited for next year. Like I said, I can't wait 1:12:43.960 --> 1:12:46.200 to get going. And but you know, I'm gonna take 1:12:46.280 --> 1:12:48.320 all of November. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm gonna 1:12:48.360 --> 1:12:50.840 I'm gonna hang out and relaxed, and you know, I 1:12:50.960 --> 1:12:54.040 work out, but I'm not I'm not gonna play golf. Um, 1:12:54.880 --> 1:12:56.280 but you know, so I want to come back when 1:12:56.280 --> 1:12:58.240 I when I started in December, I'm gonna be real fresh, 1:12:58.680 --> 1:13:00.519 really excited to play. And I got a month and 1:13:00.560 --> 1:13:02.320 a half to really work hard out and get ready 1:13:02.400 --> 1:13:06.000 for for the Aces next year. Well, I'm looking forward 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:10.960 to you, um continuing to play good and uh, continuing 1:13:11.080 --> 1:13:15.040 to make the haters hate more, because um, you know 1:13:15.280 --> 1:13:16.960 I still I still believe you've got a lot of 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:19.920 good golf left. Yeah. I love the fans, love the 1:13:19.960 --> 1:13:22.040 haters more. I love them because they get so mad. 1:13:22.080 --> 1:13:26.479 But it ain't changing my bank account. So thanks for 1:13:26.560 --> 1:13:33.759 talking to us. We got so that was Pat Perez 1:13:33.840 --> 1:13:36.479 And as I said in the opening, um you know 1:13:36.600 --> 1:13:38.280 which you know what you're going to get from Pat, 1:13:38.560 --> 1:13:41.679 and um, listen, I think this whole thing for all 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:45.120 the players involved, both on the PGA Tour side and 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:48.560 the live side, it's personal for them, right. Um, the 1:13:48.640 --> 1:13:52.320 golf land state, whether you like it, whether you don't 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:56.160 like it. Um, the golf landscape has changed, and UM, 1:13:57.479 --> 1:13:59.680 I'm excited to get the word out about what's going on, 1:14:00.600 --> 1:14:03.840 you know, in the game of golf in instruction. UM, 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:08.160 I think it would be a disservice to the listeners, 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:11.040 all of you listening, if I didn't get people on 1:14:11.200 --> 1:14:15.080 that are playing on Live, and I'm going to continue 1:14:15.120 --> 1:14:17.719 to try and get their opinions. I'm going to continue 1:14:17.720 --> 1:14:21.080 to try and get opinions and talk to everybody involved 1:14:21.080 --> 1:14:23.320 in the game of golf. So, like I said in 1:14:23.360 --> 1:14:26.840 the beginning, if that changed your mind about pat and 1:14:26.920 --> 1:14:30.000 the way you feel about Live, cool. If it didn't, 1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:33.880 that's cool too. I mean I don't think really, I mean, 1:14:33.880 --> 1:14:38.000 I honestly think at this point, UM, the line has 1:14:38.040 --> 1:14:40.720 been drawn and stand people are in the trenches, and 1:14:40.840 --> 1:14:43.640 whatever trench you're in, I'm cool with that. And for 1:14:43.760 --> 1:14:47.360 whatever reason you're in that trench with the PGA Tour, 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:50.400 if you're on the live side, I'm good with that too. 1:14:50.600 --> 1:14:53.479 But UM, I do think that the people involved in 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:56.840 professional golf, the people playing, the people that stayed with 1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:59.080 the PGA Tour, the people that have chosen to go 1:14:59.160 --> 1:15:01.479 with Live, they all have their reasons, they all have 1:15:01.600 --> 1:15:05.880 their stories, and hopefully I can get those stories out 1:15:05.920 --> 1:15:08.519 and get those voices out so everybody can kind of 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:11.360 make up their own opinions and stuff like that. But UM, 1:15:11.520 --> 1:15:14.120 I spend an enormous amount of time with Pat um 1:15:14.960 --> 1:15:20.519 and listen. I like him. Um, he's a reverend, he's crazy. 1:15:20.920 --> 1:15:24.400 I don't agree with everything he says, but um, you 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:27.000 know what you're gonna get. And if you want an 1:15:27.040 --> 1:15:31.040 opinion on a subject, UM, he's one to talk to. 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:34.360 So I'm glad I talked to him, um and UM. 1:15:34.680 --> 1:15:36.120 I thought it was great. I thought he had a 1:15:36.160 --> 1:15:39.360 lot to say and UM, you know, we'll see where 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:42.439 the chips fall. But um, thanks everyone for listening. I 1:15:42.479 --> 1:15:45.200 think out of all the episodes, um, that we've done, 1:15:45.880 --> 1:15:49.080 given the current landscape of where we are in two 1:15:49.120 --> 1:15:52.879 professional golf, Um, if you've got people that are interested 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:56.360 in golf, if you've got people that are, you know, 1:15:57.200 --> 1:15:59.960 talking about what's going on on the PGA tour, what's 1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:01.760 going on on live and stuff. If they don't know 1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:04.759 about the podcast, tell them to listen to this episode. 1:16:04.960 --> 1:16:08.040 And UM, I think they will get something out of it. 1:16:08.920 --> 1:16:12.080 Son of a which comes to you every Wednesday. We 1:16:12.160 --> 1:16:14.400 will see you all next week.