1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Butch podcast. I'm your host, 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Claude Harmon. You know the drill. We come to you 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: every Wednesday. This week's guest Hat Perez. Whether you like him, 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: whether you don't like him, what you do know is 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: you're going to get hot takes. And UM, I think 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: this is probably the first time with the live tour 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: being officially over, that's where Pat's making his home. UM. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: He talks a lot about that choice and UM listen, UM, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: my job is and and in doing this podcast, I 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: wanted to try and get as many different people on 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: with his many different points of view about golf, about 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: the game of golf, and given the current state of 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: where golf is, UM, you know, I think Pat is 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: one of the guys that have gone there. He's got 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: some very very UM, like I said, he's got some 16 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: hot takes. UM you always. I mean, I think Pat 17 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: his entire career has been some one who has given 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: the golf media um what they want, which is controversy, 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: which is sound bites. And he doesn't hold back in 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: that uh full disclosure. UM. I'll have anybody on the 21 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: podcast that's in the game of golf. UM. This summer 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: at the UM. I think it was at the RBC 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: UM Heritage Harbor Town. UM. Jay Monahan came out, walked 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: a few holes with Dustin Johnson and I said to 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: j I said, listen, Ja, I'd love to get you 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: on my podcast. UM love to get you, you know, 27 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: talking about what's going on in the PGA tour. UH 28 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: and just hear what you're saying. Obviously there's a lot 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: of crazy things out there. And and that time, UM, 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: it was pre lived, but everybody kind of knew that 31 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: Live was back on UM the scene again and I 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: said to Jay, said, listen, I'd love to have you 33 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: come out and talk to you, talk to you about 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: what's going on. And he said, yeah, let me let 35 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: me get back to you. So if you're listening to Jay, 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you on. And UM, but the 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: was a really good interview. Listen. I work with Pat Perez. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm a Pat Perez fan. And you gotta remember Live 39 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: has been so kind of polarizing and UM, there is 40 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: no shortage of people talking heads players, people in the media, 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: UM beating the drum for the PGA tour, which I 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: get and you know, I listen, I listen to what 43 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: their takes are and if you're gonna listen to those takes, 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: there's going to be an alternative take to that. There 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: are going to be the guys that have gone to Live. 46 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: There are going to be the guys that went for 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: whatever reasons they went. And whether you agree with it, 48 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: whether you don't agree with it. Um, you know, life 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: is about choices, and this is the choices people have made. 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: Pat Perez has made the choice to go to Live. 51 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people when Pat signed with Live, 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: they beat up on him because of things he had 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: said about Live and stuff in the past, and and 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: we get into that. So, UM, I'm excited to for 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: everybody to hear it. And if it changes your view, 56 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: then cool. It changes your view, And if it doesn't 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: change your view, I'm good with that, that's cool too. 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: So without any further ado, let's get to the interview 59 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: with the one and the only Pat Perez. So my 60 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: guest today, Pat Perez, Pat, Um, what a crazy year 61 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: it's been. If I'd have told you last year at 62 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: this time, um, all that's happened in professional golf had happened, 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: would you have believed it? Now? We can't actually make 64 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: it up. The fact that you know, we just said 65 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: three years ago, well even after I won, after I 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: won twice in eleven months, and I said, hey, by 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the way, this isn't even gonna scratch the surface of 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: what's coming your way when you're forty six, like you're crazy, 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: there's no chance come out of surgery, win my third 70 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: tournament back, and then hey, but fast forward, there's gonna 71 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: be this opportunity in golf. There's gonna be another group 72 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: that comes out that is going to change the game, 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: and it's gonna pull a lot of players from the 74 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. Like this, there's there's no chance it can't happen. 75 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: It's absolutely impossible. And the fact that I was transpired 76 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: since since June is just unbelievable. I literally can't believe 77 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: it's all. Um. I just can't believe it's actually happened. 78 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: So it's been amazing. You've probably been the guy um 79 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: at Live who's taken as much of a beating from 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: the anti Live people as anyone. Why do you why 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: do you think that is? Well, I don't know they 82 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: you know I played you know, I had a twenty 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: one of your career. I played dice on the Tour. 84 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I kept my card every year. You know, I was 85 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: obviously not a DJ or Brooks or you know, Roary 86 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: or Tiger Phill and all these guys, you know, but 87 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: I grew up in the Tiger Fill era. You know, 88 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: I've known those guys in my whole life. They were 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: the dominant players always. And you know, I think people 90 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: to think that my career was better than it was. 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm as realist as anybody. I know 92 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: that I am in a world beating I've I've won 93 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: three times and every I love when people said, we've 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: only won three times, and go win once, or go 95 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: get your card really, you know, get through Q school, 96 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: keep your card, you know, get playing the Masters, playing 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: every tournament that's available. I played every single tournament that's 98 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: been available to the game, every major, every w d 99 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: C century, everything. I might just go play in one event, 100 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 1: you know, let alone keep your card and then only 101 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: win three times and playing for twenty one years, and 102 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: then tell me how easy it's. You know, I'm some 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: timey hearing that ship and the only one three times 104 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: and only when, and only win thirty million dollars and 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: only win third, you know, and keep your card, every time, 106 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm so tired of hearing that. But 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: you know that's the thing. I'm a realist, so I 108 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: know I'm not. I wasn't a world beater. But all 109 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden, when it seems like when you get 110 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: paid up front, that people expect your game to be different, 111 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: Like you know, you're supposed to be this world beater 112 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, a sudden you're supposed to I'm 113 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: supposed to make every pot, you know, knocked down the pins, 114 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, and play these hard courses, which we are. 115 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: We're playing hard courses, are set up hard. But you've 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: seen who's one and who's played there. The they're they're 117 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: the best players on our tour. And you know, DJ 118 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: and Brooks were phenomenal before they got the pe. Read 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: was phenomenal before he got there. Cam Smith was number 120 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: two in the world just when the players in the open. 121 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, he's gonna be at the top. That's 122 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the way it is. But I think when you get 123 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: paid up front, and if you just look at other sports, 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been through my whole life seeing these 125 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: other guys that get paid thirty million. You see these 126 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: basketball contracts four years four, and you don't even know 127 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: the guy's name. You're like guaranteed that guy get that 128 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: money guaranteed, Like you just gonna get a hundred eighty 129 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: four million dollars, Like, well, he better have, you know, 130 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: fifty five triple doubles, he better lead his team in 131 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: the championship. And when they don't, those guys don't get 132 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: beat up. But for some reason, because I'm supposed to, 133 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, because I got I made a ton of 134 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: money in this deal that my game was supposed to 135 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: be somewhat incredible at you know, almost forty seven years old. 136 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you think some of the negative the negative comments 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: towards you come from I mean I went back and 138 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: watched the podcast that you you did with Cult Knows, 139 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, and you talked it was right after l 140 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: A was right when film made his comments, and um, 141 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, you were pretty, I mean you were pretty. 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: You were an anti LID, but you were like, listen, 143 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's over. I think it's dead. 144 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna happen. All of that, and 145 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: then you sign and play seven events. Do you think 146 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: people look at maybe some of your comments that you 147 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: made in the past and go, Okay, well you were 148 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: saying this at this point of the year, and then 149 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: you get an offer, and then you go. You gotta 150 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: remember Coulton knows and his partner cut out twenty minutes 151 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: of my podcast with them, and when it comes to film, 152 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: I have a different hate fulfilled than most people. And 153 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: people won't know the story. I'm not gonna go into 154 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: the story again. But Phil crossed the line with me 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: that it is just uncrossable and unforgivable, and he knows 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: that he's screwed up. He apologized for the action, but 157 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't I cannot forgive him for because I've known 158 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: film for a long long time. I've known the guy forever, 159 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and the fact that when he made this action, not 160 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: only was it he had, he had intentions of doing it, 161 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: he was already he knew it was gonna happen before happening, 162 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: and when he did it, I was so like, you know, 163 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: I was. I was hurt. For one. I was, you know, 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, how can this guy do this and this 165 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: and this? So well. I didn't go into really on 166 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: cold thing, but I told her, I said, you've cut 167 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: out all the reasons of why I don't like film. 168 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: And I said that. The other thing is that, you know, 169 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: everybody thought that Phil was on the other side of 170 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Everyone thought that Phil was greedy in this. No he wasn't. 171 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: If anybody knows what's going on. Phil has been top 172 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: fifties whole career. He's been involved in all these teams 173 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: and all the things that are going on the tour. 174 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: He is very knowledgeable and what's going on with the tour. 175 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: And he voiced his displeasure and what is wrong with 176 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: the tour. And he's a correct in the fact of 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: the way the tour is the way they are. They 178 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: are for themselves. They are not for the players, They 179 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: are not for you know, growing anybody else except their 180 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: own pockets. They call themself a nonprofit, yet all they 181 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: have is profit, So how does that work? Right? But 182 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: the thing about what I was saying is that Phil, Yeah, 183 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: Phil almost ruined the thing completely because of his comments 184 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: about the deal. And then guys got scared of like, wow, 185 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. Now Phil's obviously turned you know, 186 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: he's saying this and this, and it could have been 187 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: a worse timing for the live group in that deal. 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: And then, but like I that in my interview, I said, 189 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm behind the tour because I didn't get it off. 190 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: I've never talked to the live group my entire life, 191 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: you know. And then Tiger was against it, and this mattered. 192 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: You know, Tiger has always been you know, and idol 193 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: mine and you know I've always looked up to him, 194 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and but he wasn't four it, but I was. Again, 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: I didn't have it again, like I said, Yeah, I said, 196 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: you offered me a good deal. I'm going because at 197 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: my point in my life, at forty six, you offer 198 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: me enough catch and I don't have to do as 199 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: much as I don't, you know, I don't have to 200 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: play as much anymore. I'm at it. And so unfortunately 201 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: timing for film and then because Phil and I had 202 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: a little talk funny enough, the the week before that 203 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: all happened, so before all those comments came out, and 204 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: then funny enough, right after I did the podcast with 205 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: Cold is when you know, I think phili is starting 206 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: to get word on, you know, things that I knew 207 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: and this and ad and so the Cold cut out 208 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: a lot of that deal. And so it's none of that. 209 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: I was really against it or four I didn't know 210 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: enough about it obviously, and I wasn't even considering because 211 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have an offer and talk to anybody, and really, 212 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, other than you and DJ, that's the only 213 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: real reason I knew that something may have come by direction. 214 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: But you know, the whole thing about me wearing out 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: Phil has way more to do with the interaction or 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: the problem that we have had as opposed to him 217 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: trying to beat up the tour and going after a 218 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of money. So that's that's where it needs to 219 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: be clarifying. Do you think um, I mean, I think 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: we've all you know, those those of us that have 221 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: been a part of Live for the last for these 222 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: eight tournaments that you know, I went to all of them. 223 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: You you were there for seven of them. Do you 224 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: think that there's a misconception about what's happening what's going 225 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: on on on the Live Tour? Do you think people's 226 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: perception of what's happening is different than what is happening. 227 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: I think one, because it's not on TV, so everybody 228 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: thinks that's not on TV, that it doesn't count. Well, 229 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: that's not that's not true. The people that kind out 230 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: love it, I mean, the fans have a blast it's 231 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: way different. You know. It's like it's like a mini 232 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: waste management type tournament, is what it is, because you 233 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: have only so many fans, but you have concerts and 234 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: we have all these things going on, music on the course. 235 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Fan interaction with the players is phenomenal. It's way different 236 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: than people, you know, but people are so stuck in 237 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: the fact that these guys left the PGA Tour, so 238 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you know it has to be terrible. We're only gonna 239 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: stay with the PGA Tour because the PGA Tour loves us. 240 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: The PGA Tour doesn't love the fans. They don't They 241 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: love them because they come out and pay money and 242 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: these kind of things. That's why the PGA Tour would 243 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: love the fan. And that's it. You know, It's not 244 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: like I don't know why if the fans came out 245 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: and actually experienced the live event like Miami was unbelievable, 246 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: It was so awesome, if they would give it a 247 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: chance and like kind of see that, Hey, you know, 248 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: you got Dustin and Cam and Brooks and Bryson and 249 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: Phil and and you know, Louis and all these Sergio 250 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: and all these great players playing and if we just 251 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: watched this and go get to watch great players play 252 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: as opposed to we hate them because they took this 253 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: money and they called blood money and sports washing and 254 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden crap that all the media has 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: you know, thrown at us. You know they've already been 256 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: it's already bring the rain hole. This is sports wash, 257 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: this is blood money. This can't be real. You know, 258 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: it's exhibition. It doesn't count. That's enough there. If they 259 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: would give it a fair chance, it would think they 260 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: would see that it's amazing. Yeah, I mean, listen, I 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: think one of the one of the things that's quite 262 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: sad is the quality of golf that that I was 263 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: able to see on live for the eight tournaments and 264 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: on and again and again. I'm I'm working on live 265 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: because that's where the players I coach play. So I 266 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: don't have a beef with the PGA Tour. I mean, 267 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't care either way. But what I think is 268 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: it's been a little bit sad is there's been some 269 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: unbelievable golf played. There's been some great shots hit, there 270 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: have been some great finishes down the stretch, and it's 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: everything is you know, it's all just it's all bullshit. 272 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean anything stuff like that. And I mean, what 273 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: has been your favorite part? Take away all the money 274 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: part of it that everybody wants to keep talking about, 275 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: but what has been your favorite part about the seven 276 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: tournaments that you've played and what is what is the 277 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: thing you're looking forward to moving forward with regards to 278 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: your involvement with Live. My my favorite thing about the 279 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: entire deal is the team. And I love the fact 280 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: that that our captain DJ really embraces the team. I mean, 281 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy it's gonna make just a 282 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: ship ton of cast this year. Is people don't even 283 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: understand they put If they found out the exact number 284 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: he made, the people would fall down dead. The fact 285 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: that he really does care about the team and he 286 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: was so excited for me playing well on Sunday to 287 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: help him win. I mean must have said times when 288 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: he was proud, he was so happy. That is that 289 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: to me? My favorite part is the teams. Like I 290 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: told you day and day, I'm not gonna beat DJ 291 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: or Brooks or camp Smith or you know a bunch 292 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: of these players, and that's fine. But the team thing. 293 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: If I can count a couple of days to help 294 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: the team win, for me, that is awesome. And the 295 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: fact that I tied our two best players on Sunday 296 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: to help win the team by one, you know, burning 297 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: my second and my second and third to last hole 298 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: and then getting up and down that bucker and then DJ, 299 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: you know two puttying and we win by one, Red 300 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: burning his last hole. For me to be part of 301 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: that mix to help win as opposed to shooting like 302 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: seventy five to cost a team by one, it would 303 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: have been just tragic. But for me, the whole, the 304 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: whole team things are crowd That's my That's literally my 305 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: favorite part of the whole thing is being involved with 306 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: three other players and the caddies and their families and 307 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, knowing that DJ can count on me to 308 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: come through because I've had to do it three time 309 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: this year or my scores kind of had to get 310 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: it in in order for us to win. Now, people 311 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: think I shoot ad every day and I you know, 312 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm not helping the team out at all. And that's 313 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: what sucks is I've gotten so much ship because people 314 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: think I'm just not you know, I walked around sterday 315 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: you every day and cash nine hundred every time, you know, 316 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and it's it just sucks. But at the end of 317 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: the day, like I said, I don't get the funk. 318 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: If anybody cares they are lights it or not, or 319 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: if they actually think that's happening, I don't care because 320 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: the cash is don't coming in. But the fact of 321 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: the matter is I have helped. And on Sunday when 322 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: I needed to show up because they were four scores 323 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: counting and we all shot seventy and good shot Sevay 324 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: want and we want. It wasn't a damn thing anybody 325 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: could have said. You know, uh, Woodland and Matt Coucher 326 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: were up here at the Flow this week and you 327 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: know they were playing and they were asking, you know, 328 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: how live wells and everything like that, and could you 329 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: know Coach doesn't you know, Coach doesn't really follow anything 330 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: other than coach. And he was like, hey, what what 331 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: what what the guy shoot on Sunday? And I said, 332 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, camp Smith shot seven under and he was like, 333 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: man shooting seven under around that place. And then and 334 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: I said, Coke Crack shot four under. And you know, 335 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: g Dub says, you know what, Patrio and I said, 336 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: you shot two under and and Coach said, manto under 337 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: on that golf course with the wind and the rough 338 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: all the way back. He's like, dude, man, that's a 339 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: that's a good score. And I think you know, when 340 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: you look at a golf course like draw, you know, 341 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: for you, I mean obviously you know you wish you 342 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: had played better at times, right. I know you're really 343 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: disappointed in Bangkok. You got it going on Sunday. You 344 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: know you've already you know, three or four in a 345 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: role and then you know had a bogey and a 346 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: double on the team. You know, I know you really 347 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: felt like you let the team down. But I think 348 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: the way that you finished the year and the golf 349 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: that you played, um, you know, you beat yourself up 350 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: probably more than any player I've ever worked with. I mean, 351 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: I've never seen someone with the worst attitude on the 352 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: golf course than you. And you know my special but 353 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: I talked about a little bit. I did a part 354 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: my podcast earlier that came out this week, but I 355 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: talked about it. I think the fans sometimes that watch 356 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: you guys play golf think that one, golf is always 357 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: easy for you. Two that you as players are always 358 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: supremely confident and always play well. Um, to play good 359 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday at the last tournament when it counted. Um, 360 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: do you feel like that's a as much mental as 361 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: it is technical with the stuff that you're trying to 362 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: do in your golf swing. Well, you know, we worked 363 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: pretty hard that week because you know, we got through 364 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: on Monday. You know, I said, we gotta fix this ship. 365 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: We've gotta fix it's goddamn slice and all this other ship. 366 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: So we're not leaving until we get it. And once 367 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: we got the swing groove and this and that. Once 368 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: I started, once I start seeing things go the direction, 369 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: my mental changes immediately because once I see that it's happened, 370 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: I can take that to the course without any doubt 371 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: that it will work. I don't get scared. Well, you know, 372 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I just you know, I don't want to I don't 373 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: want to take it. I took to the range. I'm 374 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: just gonna go back to my own ship. No, I 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: stick with it the whole day once I you know, 376 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: Monday was good, and then Tuesday was better, Wednesday was better. 377 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: And I told you Friday night, I said, going in tomorrow, 378 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: first day with with goods as I'm ready. I'm ready, 379 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm mentally ready, I'm physically physically ready. And when I 380 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: started seeing these shots with the driver room and all 381 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: these other you know, these irons and the wedges, and 382 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: there's no doubt we're gonna win this match. But I 383 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: knew I could show up and I knew that I 384 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: was ready. My attitude was great because I knew I 385 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: could pull off shots and hit things that I needed 386 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: to at the time. So you know, I didn't have 387 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: to try to bail out and guide it. You're not 388 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: doing that around that course, You're not. You can't guide. 389 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: You can't bail out. You can't not. You have to 390 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: be able to hit. And then now that was that 391 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: whole week. We put it in and we didn't change anything, 392 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: and we worked on and we grinded it out by 393 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: Friday night. When I woke up Sunday and Saturday morning, 394 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: I knew we were ready. And then by Sunday morning, 395 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: I knew I was ready to go out and play 396 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: a really good round. So let's take a quick break 397 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: to thank our partner for wellness. You guys have heard 398 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: me talk about it. I'm a big fan of their coffee, 399 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: big fan of the good stuff. I put it in 400 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: my coffee on a regular basis. The thing I like 401 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: about it, No sugars, no artificial sweeteners. It's gotten me 402 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: off dairy. Um. I've quit putting sweeteners, sugars in just 403 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: the good stuff. But I also put the good stuff, 404 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: put a scoop of that in my coffee. 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What is that what goes to your head 426 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: as as you know as a professional golfer. You know, 427 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: because so many people listening to this podcast struggle with 428 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: the same thing that we were just talking about, right, 429 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: They struggle from going from what they're working on in 430 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: the driving range to taking it to the golf course 431 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: and playing with it in your experience, in the way 432 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: that your brain works. How do you have that balance 433 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: between Okay, I'm I'm, I'm Because on the range it's 434 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: always good, right, I mean, you got a thousand golf balls, 435 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: you can always find something stuff. But when you go 436 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: to the golf course, there's so many consequences to the 437 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: shots that you're going to hit right, and and and 438 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: how have you been able you know, let's use last 439 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: week as an example. Okay, we had a really good 440 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: week of of practice. Right, That's something that a lot 441 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: of people listening will go through. Okay, I've had a 442 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: really good week this week of practicing. So the ability 443 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: to go from the driving range to the golf course, 444 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: that mental space that you have to get in to 445 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: do that. UM, talk me through that process for you. Well, 446 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: like I said, we were we had a great week, 447 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: but every time, every time we got really got started, 448 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I kept focusing on what we need to do. It 449 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: was it was really being more aware of exactly what 450 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: I need to do to get in the position is 451 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: that we wanted to get into. And then when I 452 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: got on the course for the first time a long time, 453 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: I was really more aware of what I had to do, 454 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: not necessarily worrying about the consequences, but worrying about, Okay, 455 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: I've got to get it started this way off the 456 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: ball so that I will get to hear and if 457 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: I if I do that, it will be good. But 458 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: if I missed one last week, I knew what it was. 459 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: That was kind of the difference I was. I was 460 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: so much more aware. Uh you know, we had thousands 461 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: of balls on that range on on Monday the Friday, 462 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: and I was very aware, and we did our drills 463 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and we worked on it. When I got to the course, 464 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: I kind of gave it another couple of seconds to 465 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: think about, Okay, this is how it has to go. 466 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Instead of getting up like a normally do and just 467 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: hit it. So it wasn't necessarily the the consequence I 468 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: was thinking about was the It was the It was 469 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: the you know, the process of getting it too. You know, 470 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 1: what we were doing on the range so that I 471 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: knew I could hit those shots on the course, that 472 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: that's where I was. It was really a where what 473 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: we've worked on all week, and then by the time 474 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: game time came around, the process was just still the same. 475 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: So mentally I was a much better place thinking about 476 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: just what we had worked on. You know, you're a 477 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: really fast player. You've always played really really fast. Your 478 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: personality is you know, people see your golf swing and 479 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: your your your game kind of match your personal Do 480 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: you think sometimes that the speed which you play can 481 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe take away some of the process of what you're 482 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: trying to do. They can, And I thought, I thought 483 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: last week I played a little slower, you know, I 484 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: slowed down a little bit because you know, with that course, 485 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: you really got to be precise on where you're going. 486 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: So it's night talked about more lines, where are we gone? 487 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: And then you know I was actually making more practice 488 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: swings with my you know, trying to get my position 489 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, which I don't usually do, but 490 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: I knew I had to concentrate more on that to 491 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: hit this shot that I was looking for. And I think, 492 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, just overall, I had an a whole different 493 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: version of myself on the course as far as preparation, 494 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: mental preparation, you know, you know, prep before each shot 495 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: and kind of visualizing what I had way more visualizations 496 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: what I thought was going to happen on each shot. 497 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: The shot you hit, you know, I talked about it 498 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: on on on the podcast I put out earlier this 499 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: last week. Um, the shot you hit on nine the ninth, Hold, 500 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: what was nine to part three? Um, you were finishing 501 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: on you you started on twelve, so you're finishing your nine, 502 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: ten eleven, So nine the distances one, it was two 503 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: or seven, two or seven of the labs right off 504 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: the lab, and we knew it was a perfect six iron. 505 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: And I told you it's got to trust this ship 506 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: this time, I said, you know, because all fucking week 507 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: got hit it over there, laughed, laughed, laughed. I'm it's 508 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: not time to hit a laugh. Yeah. And there's water, 509 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean there's missing to the right, there's water. There's 510 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: nowhere to miss it to the right. No, no, I'm 511 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: swinging out to the right. Are are our deal? Let's 512 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: swing out to the right. And I just said, you 513 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going with it, and I got this 514 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: is the time I've got to hit the shot. And 515 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: it came out like a laser and it just held 516 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: dead straight, and then the wind didn't touch it and 517 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: didn't drawn and fade. It was just a dead straight 518 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: laser right where I was talking on the l that 519 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: was black behind on the on the stands back there, 520 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: I go, that's that shot. Was unbelievable. And then do 521 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: you feel that path when you hit a shot like 522 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: that under pressure? We stand up and you say, okay, 523 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: this is a shot I need to hit right. Everybody, 524 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: during the course of a round of golf, especially at 525 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: the professional level, there's going to be a shot that 526 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: where you have to stand up and say, all right, 527 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: if we're gonna win this golf tournament as the team 528 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: it was a team competition, I've got to stand up 529 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: after you hit that shot. What's going through your mind? 530 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Are you saying to yourself? Is it relief? Is it 531 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I can do that again? Is it? What is what? 532 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: What are you saying to yourself in your head as 533 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: you're walking off between you've just executed the shot the 534 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: way because I think so many people listening they beat 535 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: themselves up about the good shots. Right they stand up, 536 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: they hit a good shot, and they'll say, oh, now 537 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: I hit a good shot, you know now, and they 538 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: don't take any real positivity and embrace what they've just done. Yeah. 539 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I took it as the work and paid off. I 540 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: put in the time. I put in the work I 541 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: needed to hit the shot. I trusted him and I 542 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: hit it. So I left they're feeling, you know what, 543 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: I deserved that shot. I did my time, I put in. 544 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: You know, that's why I put it all that time, 545 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: was to stand up there be able to hit that shot. 546 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: And I was happy. I was happy, you know, I 547 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, I felt like it was deserved. And 548 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: so then you go to so then the tent toll 549 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: now the opposite water all the way down the left 550 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: hand side, kind of a dog leg around the corner. Um, 551 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: you know, not around the corner, but just a dog 552 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: leg from right to left. Um, you've got to stand up, 553 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: you know it. If you bail one out to the 554 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: right with the driver, you know, the roughest brutal it's 555 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: and and you stood up and you hit another really 556 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: really good shot. Do you do you think that the 557 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: shot before and the mental space that you were able 558 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: to get into to say, okay, I've just got to 559 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: stand up and trust what I'm doing allowed you to 560 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: make a really aggressive, good drivers swing on tent. Yeah. 561 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: You know, Plus we hit how many drivers? The driving 562 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: range where we were hitting was, I mean probably fifty 563 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: yards from where that t shot was. It was the 564 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: same direction, was the same wind, So I hit a 565 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: hundreds hundreds of driving with that same wind. So I'm 566 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, it's the same as a driving Roos almost. 567 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, we had our when we had our fare way. 568 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: We picked those two trees in the rage, so I 569 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: visualized those two trees. I'm like, it's gonna start off 570 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: this one and it's gonna draw. So I had all 571 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: that once again go back to the vigitalization, and all 572 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: those thoughts from fifty are the right of me. I'm thinking, Okay, 573 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: the water's out there, I'm just gonna turn it off 574 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: this I'm gonna work it with the shape of the 575 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: of the water. And it came round at the center 576 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: and it was exactly what I had visioned, but again, 577 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: what we had worked on for six days to get 578 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: to that point. It wasn't necessarily, it wasn't relieved. It 579 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: was I deserve that because I put in the work 580 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: and I trusted it and I did it. I stand 581 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: up there, you know, I stood up there and showed 582 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: my balls. And that was in fucking Poe. Um. We've 583 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: we've heard a lot about this divide between you know, 584 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: the guys that are stolen the PGA tour the guys 585 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: that have gone to live. Um. I was in the 586 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: car with you, um when we were going out on 587 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: Sunday night, and you know, Padrick Harrington messaged you. You said, 588 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: you've got a message from John rom. Um. Have there 589 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: been other players that are on the PGA tour that 590 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I've reached out to you now that the season's over. 591 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: I got a text from Justin Thomas Monday boarding because said, hey, man, 592 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm so happy for he congrats that to night. And 593 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, that's pretty cool. You know 594 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: I think I think like with with like rom and Justin, 595 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: I think they see the look this guy played twenty 596 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: one years you know, you know it could be towards 597 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: the end of his PJA Tory career more than likely. 598 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But the fact that he gotta he gotta break. You know, 599 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: he showed up on he showed up on Sunday, shot 600 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: seventy on Durral. You know, I think they just recognized 601 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: that I've played well. And you know, everybody knows DJ 602 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: is the guy and Cam's the guy in this and now. 603 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: But I think people have realized, you know, hey, here's 604 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: a guy, you know, because that's kind of been a 605 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, average player's whole career and grinded it out, 606 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: kept his card forever, got to DIB and he got 607 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: a break, and he had to show up on Sunday 608 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: to help his team, and he did. I think I 609 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: think those guys realize, you know, I'm not a threat 610 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: to Justin Thomas or you know, any of those top players, 611 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: you know, Scheffler and all these other guys. They know 612 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a threat tongue. But and they can't really 613 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: be mad that I left, because you know, if you 614 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: look at the breakdown, right, I'm not gonna be and 615 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 1: I would never be in the pit. I wouldn't be 616 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: in the sixties. I'm not gonna get five hundred grands, 617 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make more math and you know I'm not 618 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: qualified for the five thousand. So it's like they see 619 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: a guy going, Hey, you know, this guy grinded it out. 620 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: He's on DJ's team. DJ's obviously the world beater, you know, 621 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: for his team, and this and that. I think they 622 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: just saw his Hey. I think they were generally happy 623 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: for me that I showed up, and they don't see 624 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: me as a threat, so they're like, I think they're 625 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: just genuinely happy for But it was nice here and 626 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: I heard from Web Simpson, Aaron Badley, um, the same thing. Congrats. 627 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, I thought it was pretty cool. I thought 628 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: it was pretty cool, you know, because justin Thomas, you know, 629 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: he's he's a world player, he just played phenomenal in 630 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: the President's Cup. He's he's a phenomenal player. You know, 631 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: it's phenomenal. But he's obviously anti Litt, you know, for 632 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: whatever reasons he is. And that's fine, it's fine. But 633 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: the fact that he reached out and and you know, congratulating, 634 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: I thought that was I thought that was pretty I 635 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: think it's a little bit like other sports. If you play, 636 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: if you played any downs in the NFL that they 637 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: talk about, there's a brotherhood that if you played in 638 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: in you know, in the NFL, if you played in 639 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, if you played in basketball. UM, I 640 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: think that the thing people ask me all the time, 641 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: you know, Live PJ Tour, and you know, I'm a 642 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: fan of golfers. I'm a fan of golf swings. I'm 643 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: a fan of watching golfers hit shots. And I think that, 644 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 1: you know, regardless of I remember when Brooks was still 645 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: playing on the Challenge Tour and UM in thirteen he 646 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: qualified for the the Open Championship. He and Peter u 647 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: Line qualified and they played a practice round with UM. 648 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: They played in the money games of Phil and and 649 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler. Uh my dad was working with with with 650 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: both of them at the time. Still went on to 651 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: win that week at Mirrorfield. But we played a practice 652 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: round and they're playing the money games. So Peter and 653 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: and and Brooks are playing Phil and and Ricky and 654 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: you know, Phil was he was like, man, this this 655 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: kid looks you know, this book skin. He looks pretty good. 656 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Where's he playing? I said, you know, he's playing on 657 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: the Challenge Tour. And I said, listen, he hasn't done 658 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: anything on the on the European Tour yet or the 659 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, But I said, you know, he's playing on 660 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: the Challenge show and he's shooting a lot of really 661 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: low scores on the Challenge Shore and Brooks was he 662 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: was shooting, you know, sixty two, sixty three, sixty fours 663 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: to win, and I said, yeah, I mean, it's the 664 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: Challenge Shore and Phil will never forget this, he said, 665 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 1: Golf is golf. I don't care where you're playing. If 666 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: you're shooting low numbers, it doesn't matter if it's high 667 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: school golf, college golf, a tour here or tour there. 668 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: The shots are the shots. The you have to hit 669 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: the shots. And I think that, you know, it's cool 670 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: that those guys reached out to you because they understand 671 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: that they have the same job that you've got. Right, 672 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: you're trying to play competitive golf for a living, and 673 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: anybody that thinks that that's easy is mistaken. I mean, 674 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: I think sometimes I think the people listening in the 675 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: fans think golf is a hell of a lot easier 676 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: than you guys do that play it for a living 677 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: and that are the best players in the world. Yeah, 678 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: it's not easy. It's not easy at all. Nobody, nobody 679 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: plays professional a level. Any tour has these You're still 680 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: trying to meet the guys that are around here. It 681 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if we're not playing against the thomas Is 682 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: and Rory's and Rohm's every week, we're still playing against 683 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: DJ and and Sergio and and and uh, you know, 684 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: Cam Smith and these guys. I mean, it's it's it's 685 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: a different tour. But I think, you know, people gotta 686 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: realize that it just is what it is. And then golf, 687 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: you know, you said the golf is golf. It's it's unfortunately, 688 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: the unfortunate thing is where the game is right now. 689 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that you know, we couldn't have come to 690 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: more of an agree agree. But I think I think 691 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: Monahan's completely fuck this whole thing up by not at 692 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: least taking a call from the Live group, Like I 693 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: told you, yeah, they what he's done. What he did 694 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: was turned down our money. And I've told us to 695 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: multiple players, SA, if you don't take a phone call 696 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: from a company or a group that wants to invest 697 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: billions of dollars into it, at least listen to it. 698 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, at least take the phone call, listen to 699 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: it and go, hey, why don't we think about this, 700 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: Let's see if it's good for us? This and that. Okay, fine, 701 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: at least we get at least we get a look 702 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: at it. But the fact that he didn't, you know, 703 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: and I think it's gotten so so divided now unfortunately 704 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: that I just don't. I don't see any repair him 705 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: at all. So do you, I mean, do you think 706 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: that you know? Because I get asked a lot of questions. 707 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: You know, where does golf happen? Where does it go? Now? 708 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that there will now be two tours? 709 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: They'll be the PGA Tour and the people that play 710 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: on that, and there will be the live guys and 711 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: the people that play on that tour, and there will 712 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: be separate because originally, I think a lot of eyes 713 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning. You know, when we were in London. 714 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 1: You know you were part of the lawsuit. You backed 715 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: out of that. Um do you do you regret being 716 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: part of the lawsuit? You know? I do, and I 717 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: don't because the only reason I joined it was not 718 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: to go back for the PJ tour. The only reason 719 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: I did it was too back you know, there's two 720 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: guys on my team and then there was basically some 721 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: other friends that we're fighting for it now, but I 722 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do it. That's why I pulled out, 723 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: you know of it, because I'm not interested in going back. 724 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: I knew once I decided that I was leaving the 725 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: PGA tour, I was done forever. I don't have the 726 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: name or the fight to go to the tour saying look, 727 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: you guys need me, I need to be part of this. No, 728 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: they don't need me at all, just like tour players 729 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: are on there, they don't need any of them. So 730 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: you know, I knew that leaving, So yeah, it was 731 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately got thrown in the mix, but I pulled out. 732 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: I got a text from Brian Harmon saying, hey, thanks 733 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: for you know, pulling out less. I said, Brian, you 734 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: know you and I talked for hundreds of hours on 735 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: the tour about where is all this goddamn money going? 736 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: Where is everything going? Why are we at a pocket? 737 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: Where's all the spots of money? Where's all these things? 738 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: Thats and I have fought for twenty years in that 739 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: tour for the things that you finally have gotten. So 740 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: you know, and people know that. You know, I've been 741 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,760 Speaker 1: I was out there so long. I always asked Monahan 742 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: and a pastor and all these guys, where the hell 743 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: is on the money going? Why are we at a pocket? 744 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: How can you guys are flying around you know, G 745 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: four and stay at the Ritz and eded Morton's every night, 746 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, and the players are worried about missing the cotton, 747 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: being out seven eight grand, But you guys standing there 748 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: together every Sunday giving away you know, twelve to fifteen 749 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: million dollars to charity, which totally wrong. I'm on for charity, 750 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: I'm all for it. It's great what the tour does 751 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: for the communities, but why not take care of everybody 752 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,720 Speaker 1: that's helping you get that money away? Why is everybody 753 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: out you know, why are seventy five guys going all 754 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: with the holder pocket? And that kind of piste me off. 755 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, the lawsuit thing is I think, 756 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, I understand why I got like Phil. You know, 757 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: he's got lifetime exemptions. You know, with forty six wins, 758 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: I understand why he's met he has earned the right 759 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 1: to do that. But you know, once again, everybody leaving 760 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: should have known that Monahan was dead serious about when 761 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: he said it three times, when you leave, you're gonna 762 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: be suspended. Maybe I was the only one to thought 763 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: that because I knew once I left, I was gonna 764 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: be done. And that's why, you know, we had multiple 765 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: conversations during during London, like I've got to make sure 766 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be part of this for a minute, 767 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: because I know I can't go back and my career 768 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: on the on the PGA Tour and the Champions Tour 769 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: is over. So that's why I was a little hesitant 770 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: out of the game. But you know, and I thought 771 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: I'll back the guys in the lawsuit, but it was 772 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 1: it was stupid. I shouldn't have done anyway. I don't 773 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: want to do anything part of that because I don't 774 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: want to go back to PJA Tour. You know. I wish, 775 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: I wish it could have been something earlier in time, 776 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: that maybe it could have worked where everybody could have 777 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: got along. But it's just not gonna happen now. Unfortunate, 778 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: it's not an appen I saw a rock a mediate 779 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: yesterday on a podcast we're saying, you know, he he 780 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: he thinks that the guys that live you know should 781 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: just say thank you, because, um, everything in their life 782 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: has happened because of the PGA Tour. There is an 783 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: argument to be made, path that the tour, the PGA Tour, 784 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: offered you and everyone else an enormous opportunity and a platform. 785 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: And there is a sentiment of I think a lot 786 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: of people that are still on the PGA Tour that work, 787 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: you know for the tour in Pontovidra, that listen, we 788 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: gave you this platform and you should be thankful for that. No, 789 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: I understand, And I I said in my when I 790 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: pulled up interview, I said, look, I said, I thank 791 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: the tour. They gave me a one wonderful opportunity for 792 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: twenty one years to play on the tour. But again 793 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: they didn't give me anything. They gave him. You don't 794 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 1: make any money. Yeah, I said, they gave us an opportunity, 795 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: they created something that's amazing that you can play professional 796 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: golf and played for all. This mightunus this, but yeah, 797 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's always it's it's I mean I've always 798 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: thought that without the without the players, there is no 799 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: PGA Tour, right and and to me, um, if I 800 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: was going to be critical, of the PGA Tour. Listen, 801 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: I was never a player. Um so I'm just speaking 802 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: of my experience. It always struck me that the tour 803 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: thought that they were the product, not the players. It 804 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: always struck me that the tour made every bone feel 805 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: like and and we did it right. We we called 806 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: we called everybody that worked jamnahand Andy Pasner and Ross 807 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: ber Litt. But we we as as people on the 808 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 1: PJ we call them the tour. But you're you were 809 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: the tour. When you were on the PGA tour, You 810 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: and and Rory McElroy and Jordan's Speet and all of 811 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: the people that played. You guys were the two And 812 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the things that live his coming 813 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 1: in and and for the first time they're being competition. Um. 814 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: I think people are realizing that, wait a minute, we 815 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: were treated as specifically. We've heard a lot. I've experienced it. 816 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: I know you have as well a lot of people 817 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: that ask me, this is what is so different about 818 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: being on the live tour versus the PGA Tour. I've 819 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: got my own faults on that. Taking the money part aside, right, 820 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: because everybody knows, you know, people got paid, right. People 821 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,760 Speaker 1: some people got the bag, you know, Brooks, DJ Phil. 822 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: They secured the bag for life, which I don't have 823 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: a problem with. I don't have problem with Rory McElroy 824 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: flying around in the plane that he flies around with 825 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: his initials on the engine on the back, and Tiger 826 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: as well, because they they're not giving those things away. 827 00:41:55,719 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: You can you can't, You can't you with Nie with 828 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: Ernie Els, did Tiger Woods did all the great players. 829 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 1: You can't do that without being a great player. Um, 830 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: what hit you felt has been the main difference in 831 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: the way that you feel playing live versus playing on 832 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. And nothing to do with the money 833 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: side of things. No, No, it's not the money that 834 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: I feel like that. It's a group that actually cares 835 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: about me, and they cared about all forty eight of us, 836 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,280 Speaker 1: and the caddies and the coaches and the families and everything. 837 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, alright, bring it up, but you 838 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: know you had you know, I had a problem with 839 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: one of these goddamn caddies. Caddy stole money twice from 840 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,240 Speaker 1: me out of my wallet. I found him. FBI report, 841 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: police report. Doctor I was on Mona. Hans asked Paszers 842 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: asked for years on this ship, and all they kept 843 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: tom is well he didn't see him actually take it, 844 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: so you know this, but we can't take his livelihood 845 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: and let him take my money. So you're protecting him like, oh, 846 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: you're protecting well, you know, it's not really like us. 847 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 1: It's just there was a situation where a case all 848 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: my money and they were never behind me. I was 849 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: always fucking pissed that they never tried to help out, 850 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: never thought about. But if I was a big enough name, 851 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: he would have been gone. The good thing on that 852 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,399 Speaker 1: deal is that he will never be on the lip. 853 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: We've already we've already secured that they'll never be I'll 854 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: never have to see him again because they'll never be 855 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: on the lip, which is phenomenal. But it's just it's 856 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: a little ship like that. Then if you had a promise, 857 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: it's you know, we gotta let's see what we can do, 858 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: you know. It's yeah, we don't know, we don't we 859 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: don't think it can help down And it was always 860 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: that way the live group with Norman and and and 861 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: everybody part. They can't do enough. They can't help enough, 862 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, and unless they I need to be catered 863 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,479 Speaker 1: to know, I don't need anything. I don't. I'm easy. 864 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need a lot of ship. But 865 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: if I actually have a legitimate question and a problem, 866 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: they can't do enough. But they've already kind of covered 867 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: it all. The way they treat us, the way everything 868 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: goes into it, the caddies alone, you know, everything, flights, hotels, transportation, food, everything, 869 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: the term us, the way they're set up everything at 870 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 1: the tournament. It's just it's it's it's pretty good. It's 871 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: really good. But to go back to your original you 872 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: had a question today about you know, about the two tours, 873 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 1: it's actually three tours. Now you have the Lift Tour, 874 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: you have the elite of the PGA Tour, and then 875 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: you have the other schedule. What's the other nine of 876 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: the guys are going to play for? Which is a 877 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: lot of the Island Tour, you know, and all these 878 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: other all these other deals. If you're part of the 879 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: sixty and the p I P you're basically in your 880 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: own schedule, and then the rest of those guys that 881 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 1: aren't are another tour, and then you have the Lift 882 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: tours going forward into when you know in twenty three 883 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 1: and four, it's astical gonna be three tours. I mean, 884 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: obviously you have your own feelings about personally about Phil, 885 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: but I mean the things that Phil talked about that 886 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: he thought we were wrong with the PGA tour and 887 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: where they could make changes. Do you feel like a 888 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: lot of the things that he brought up he's been 889 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: vindicated on because all of a sudden, you know, there 890 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: is a earned assurance program on the PGA Tour so 891 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: that if you don't make enough money, you've got money. 892 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: The the European Tour, the DFE World Tour today just 893 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: did the exact same thing. A hut hundred and fifty grand, 894 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: you play fifteen events and stuff like that. Um, it's 895 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: naive to think that without I think anybody that thinks 896 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: that all of this would have happened that live never 897 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 1: come around. I think we're never gonna happen. It was 898 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. We can ask him by first, but 899 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where it all happen. I'll tell you 900 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: the fault and the problem is the players in the past. 901 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: You know, deadheads like Fred Couples, you know those assholes 902 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: that that could have done all this back in the 903 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: day and said, look where your product we're bringing this 904 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: all to you. Where is the money? Why are we 905 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: not being taken care of? You know? And they want 906 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: to be mad at us. All the are players. They 907 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: want to be mad at us because this all this 908 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: showed you know, this all showed up. But they should 909 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: be mad at the PGA tour as well for going 910 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: you're guaranteeing these guys money. Now you're doing this, You're 911 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: doing this, You're giving him a p I P. Think 912 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: about how much Fred Couples Davis loved, you know, all 913 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: these guys back in the day, John Dailey. Think about 914 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: how much John Dayley would have made the p I P. 915 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: I mean fucking with one every year, right, who was 916 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: more popular than John Daly. He's still he's still probably 917 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: arguable top five name in the game today. They still 918 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: want to see him play. So how much what do 919 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: he made the p I P? You know, how do 920 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: you win two majors and not get picked for the 921 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,319 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup team? I mean who they who ever won 922 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: a major didn't play the Ryder Cup twice? You know, 923 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: So there's all these other players. They should be mad 924 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: at themselves. You know, they want to talk about us 925 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: and this is that. But isn't an amazing how it's 926 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: always the guys that played a long time that then 927 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: took the money and like, oh, these guys are greeding 928 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,760 Speaker 1: this this, But none of those guys care about anybody 929 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: that played like three or four years that around of 930 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: the game, right, No one cares about those guys, you know, 931 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: the names in the past. But it's it's funny to 932 00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: me that it's the older generation that could have started 933 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 1: this a long time ago, going, why are you guys 934 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: are giving away all this money to charity? You know, 935 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 1: we're driving it out for a hundred eighty eight thousand 936 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 1: dollars first place, you know, last places, sucking Ford Ran. 937 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: It's not the expenses changed. The expenses are still the 938 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: same amount. It's just the money has gone through the 939 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: roof because of you know, because of Tigre really and 940 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: then but now all these players are making so much money, 941 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 1: and then what are you doing? You give them more money? 942 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: So it's the this this two these older guys that 943 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: couples in love and all these other guys should be 944 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: madder in hell at both tours. One the fact that 945 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: all these limp guys are making so much but now 946 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: the PGA tour is gonna take care of all these 947 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: kids that are making a fortune and the older generation 948 00:47:54,520 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 1: got nothing. That's the literal matterfault. Let's take a quick break, yeah, 949 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: and we are back. You live in Scottsdale. I live 950 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: in in Jupiter, UM, you know, which is filled with 951 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,840 Speaker 1: people that currently play professional golf um on the PGA 952 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: Tour on live. And then there are loads of people 953 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: in both those towns that used to play on the 954 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,400 Speaker 1: PGA Tour that like you said that, you know a 955 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: name that springs to mind here that you know that 956 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: that we see all the time, who was a really 957 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,399 Speaker 1: good player, Steve Marino. You've got to think a guy 958 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: like Steve Marino is looking at what's going on on 959 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour going where where was this when I 960 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: was playing? Where was this when I got injured? Right? 961 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: Exactly like my boy Robert Gergas he text me on 962 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: he said, could grasp him so happy for he got done. 963 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,240 Speaker 1: Here's a guy that's struggling like hell to get into tournaments, 964 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: make cuts. You know, this is how he played. He 965 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: played tour fifteen years. I think to talk at this 966 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: ship about him, No, not at least nobody. They don't 967 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,359 Speaker 1: care there, right, now the tour it cares about their cash, cows, Wo's, 968 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 1: other Mcaroys and Shuffler's and Thomas and you know. And 969 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: that's fine. But if you're not in that sixth year 970 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: the p I P and they don't give a damn 971 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: about you, I promise you to where where do you 972 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: think lives next year? At this time? Do you think 973 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: do you see a TV deal in the future? Do 974 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: you see more players? I mean Greg Norman just came 975 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: out yesterday and said that they're they're identifying more players 976 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: that they'd like to sign up. Do you think that 977 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: people are going to be surprised in November of um 978 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: at where live is relative to where it is now 979 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 1: or do you think that people will be saying, see, 980 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: I told you so, I told you it wouldn't work. 981 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: I told you that it wasn't gonna be what it 982 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: was gonna be. It's gonna work. It's gonna work because 983 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: one they have the cash and credit target lights out. 984 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: The tour doesn't. The tour is banking on all their sponsors. 985 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,400 Speaker 1: They had to go this route. They had to go 986 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 1: to these elevated events and make whether they say not, 987 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 1: they're they're not forcing their players to play. But they 988 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: are because these sponsors that the tour have are not 989 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: going to continue to write these huge as checks if 990 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,919 Speaker 1: those players don't show up. The great thing about lives, 991 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, you know roughly when we get there are 992 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: new players coming, and there's some there's some good names 993 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,520 Speaker 1: coming that all foury of those guys are gonna play 994 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: all fourteen weeks. That's guaranteed. So and then on again, 995 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,359 Speaker 1: the tour copied that that model of an elevated event 996 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty million nothing. They copied the whole thing. All this 997 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: money's coming out p I p O. It's some the 998 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: craft care to. It's just a directly said it's a 999 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 1: direct copy of what they lived in. They of course 1000 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: they they copy that. But I think they're either gonna 1001 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: make a TV station or they're gonna get on. But 1002 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,439 Speaker 1: they're gonna get TV because there's always only people gonna 1003 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: do around and going brow. We've got we've got this 1004 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: event going on which has one major winner, the PGA Tour. 1005 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: Well you've got this event over here that's got fifteen 1006 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: major winners. Then they're not on TV. We've got to 1007 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 1: get this on TV. It's gonna happen. And three you 1008 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: gotta know the Live group, they're so far ahead of 1009 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: what they thought they were gonna be after eight events, 1010 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,600 Speaker 1: you know, with Phil stupid comments in February and all 1011 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: that stuff, and then people getting kind of scared, you know, 1012 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: then everybody's signing, and then what happened after this eight 1013 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: events has been unbelievable. And I don't see him slow down, 1014 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, the you know yaster and margin. They are 1015 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: so excited about where they're at and going forward, and 1016 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 1: they know they have this vision of you know, the 1017 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: Formula one model that's going to take place now, the 1018 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: team aspect is gonna start on next year. I think 1019 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: by the end of twenty three, I think this thing 1020 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: is just flying. Do you think that in ten years 1021 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 1: will look back at this as being bad for golf, 1022 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: for professional golf or good for professional golf. What's bad 1023 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: about it is that they could have joined with the 1024 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: PGA Tour. That's what That's the bad thing. I think 1025 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:06,239 Speaker 1: in the end, that's where the decision was gonna It 1026 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,279 Speaker 1: was bad. I think the fact that you didn't even meet, 1027 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: you didn't take the phone call again, you just shoot 1028 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: him away, and then they thought, oh, these guys aren't 1029 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 1: gonna leave because we're the PGA Tour. They're not gonna 1030 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: leave us. We're the big dog. No one's leaving us. 1031 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: The money doesn't matter. Okay, well that was obviously false. 1032 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: I think I really don't know. In ten years, I 1033 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: don't know what, you know, whether it's gonna be good 1034 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,840 Speaker 1: or bad. It could be a little bit of both. 1035 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: I think that's unfortunate that you know that, you know, 1036 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: we've taken so much ship over the last five months, 1037 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 1: and the people are just mad because they're mad for 1038 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: whatever reason, you know, if they think everybody's overpaid, and 1039 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's the money aspect of it. 1040 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: For me is it's so interesting to watch people talk 1041 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:04,120 Speaker 1: about that fixate on Hunt. But the football stadiums in 1042 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: the NFL are filled baseball stadiums. People go watch basketball, 1043 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: people go watch They're now paying college athletes, UM, the 1044 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 1: colleges in in in America. You know, the money that 1045 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 1: Alabama brings in for amateur football, not even professional football. 1046 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: And nobody has any problem with any of that. And 1047 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: so and then obviously Tiger Woods coming out and talking about, 1048 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, where is the incentive to have to practice 1049 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,359 Speaker 1: and play with guaranteed money? UM? That's the stupidest server 1050 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: heard my life, because that as one of the stupidest 1051 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: things I think he has said. The incentive is the 1052 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: fact that last place is a d thousand, first places 1053 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: four billion. He cannot win four million on the PGA Tour. 1054 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: Next year, you might will they finally up the purse. 1055 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: But last time I checked, he's signed a forty million 1056 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: dollar deal right at a college was flying on the 1057 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: Nike jet he found in senator to go. He could 1058 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: have shut it down right then. He did. He did 1059 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: pretty good with all the guarantees up front. He had 1060 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,319 Speaker 1: a lot of guarantees, you know what, and he was 1061 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: the hottest thing. He's made so much money off the course. 1062 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 1: He found it and sent him to go. But again 1063 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: he only played how many tournaments he didn't go? I 1064 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: never saw him John Dear never saw him, you know, 1065 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: supporting all these events that you know, he played the majors. 1066 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: By the w G season, that was it. He played 1067 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: Tori never played Riff. You know. It's like, but he's 1068 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: worth every time. In fact, I guess that he's two 1069 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: billions short of where he should be. I think for 1070 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: guys changed the game first phenomenals. He was you know, 1071 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,759 Speaker 1: and the best part, but you'll never see another guy Kim. 1072 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: And the same thing is, you'll never see another guy 1073 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,759 Speaker 1: like Phil. There's nobody playing the game today that we'll 1074 00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: have forty six wins as great as Wordy is. Do 1075 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna win twenty two more times or 1076 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: whatever the hell it is? Four? No, I don't see it. 1077 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: He's gonna catchman majors. Rory should have fifteen majors by now. 1078 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, that's how phenomenal he is. I mean, he's 1079 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: the best driver in the ball I've ever seen it. Ye, 1080 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, but maybe he's gonna happen. But yeah, this 1081 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: is like this has also been like a rebirth for 1082 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: him because he's been so mad, right, he's so mad 1083 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: at what happened and this and that, And he wins 1084 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: the FedEx, he wins Congrete's number one in the world. Again, 1085 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,479 Speaker 1: I think Roy's got a whole different drive on what's 1086 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,480 Speaker 1: going on. He could be number one for who knows 1087 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,320 Speaker 1: how long. I mean, that's how phenomenal he is. But again, 1088 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: I you're just not You're not gonna see those kind 1089 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 1: of players because the incentive, the incentive, the fact that 1090 00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,240 Speaker 1: you can go from like second place or eight teams 1091 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,919 Speaker 1: places have a great Sunday and go from making two 1092 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: grand a four million. You cannot do that anywhere. So 1093 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 1: that's the incentive. I mean, you've been out there. You 1094 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: were out there every week like I was. You see people, 1095 00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: guys are everyone's grinding as hard as they ever have 1096 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: in their lifetime because not even that you can go 1097 00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: from making a hundred sixty grand to like one million. 1098 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: It's very hard to do on the PGA Tour. Listen, listen. 1099 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean the money argument. Um, you know, the PGA 1100 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: Tour and j and a lot of people have leaned 1101 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 1: into trophies and legacy and all of that and majors. 1102 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,400 Speaker 1: But you and I both know that as soon as 1103 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: you win a major championship, right obviously as a player, 1104 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 1: it two huge, huge, I mean, it's it's amazing. But 1105 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,320 Speaker 1: you also know that that's going to allow your agent 1106 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: for the next five years to bring in a lot 1107 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 1: of money. People that played all over the world always 1108 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: wanted to come to the PGA Tour because you knew 1109 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,479 Speaker 1: that if you played on the PGA Tour, yes you'd 1110 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,359 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to win memorial, Yes you'd have an 1111 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to play it toy all of the iconic golf courses. 1112 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know that 1113 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: you win five times in Asia, five times on the 1114 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 1: European Tour, five times in South Africa, you and five 1115 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: times on the US Tour, on the PGA Tour. You know, financially, 1116 00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: there is a massive, massive reward for that. Yeah. I 1117 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: asked the player after he won the US Open. I said, 1118 00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, what do you think that was worth? He 1119 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 1: told me the numbers. So yeah, that's that's gotta be nice, 1120 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: you know, because it's worth back. So I go, man, 1121 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: that's that's nice. That takes care of you forever. You know. 1122 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: But but you know, you talk about theyone talks about 1123 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: legacy and all of sudden crap. I mean, it's it's 1124 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: such a joke. I mean, right now, there's there's two 1125 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: guys that are, you know, Hall of Fame legacy guys, 1126 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: and you know one one doesn't play and one's on 1127 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: our tour, and you know the other guys are working 1128 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: that way. There's there's top players that are working that way, 1129 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 1: but they gotta win a certain amount of majors before 1130 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: they really considered the people consider them you know, in 1131 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: the argument of top ten or you know, all time players, 1132 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: and a lot of them just aren't there yet, but 1133 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: a lot of them think they are. There's a lot 1134 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: of tour players out to I think they are unbelievable 1135 00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,200 Speaker 1: with three or four wins and no major because they're 1136 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: making so much money that they think that they're better 1137 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 1: than you know, the players of the past who won 1138 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 1: ten to twenty times. You mentioned the team element of this. UM. 1139 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: You've basically played every single practice round UM since June 1140 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 1: with Dustin Johnson. UM, you warm up next to him. 1141 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 1: You've probably spent as much time around DJ as anybody UM, 1142 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: as a golfer, as someone that is trying to do 1143 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: the same thing that he's doing. UM, how cool has 1144 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,400 Speaker 1: that been? And to watch him and the way he plays, 1145 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: and and to watch up close pat the way that 1146 00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if you could design a golfer both physically 1147 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: but mentally, the way that he plays the game is 1148 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,200 Speaker 1: so much fun to watch its way. But he's got Yeah, 1149 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: it is, It has been. It has been really funny. 1150 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: I got done TJ a lot of the last couple 1151 00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: of years, you know, when coming closer, but then they haven't, 1152 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, he wanted me to his team and to 1153 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,479 Speaker 1: spend as much time as I have. Honest, like you said, 1154 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: it's unbelible with his prep work and the things nothing 1155 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: bothers him, and his routines he does, and the way 1156 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 1: he looks at things. Nothing negative ever comes out of 1157 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,960 Speaker 1: his mouth. And to watch him hit the driver and 1158 00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: hit these long irons and hit these shots like man, 1159 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,840 Speaker 1: you can see why he's been so dominant. You know 1160 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: why he is such a phenomenal player. Can't toamny six 1161 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: four strongs and ox his hands and you know, like 1162 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,560 Speaker 1: a vice. He's just he's flexible, he's I mean, it's 1163 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: just he's unbelievable to watch playing and uh, it's so cool. 1164 00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: And you know that, you know, he's still one of 1165 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 1: the best players in the game. I don't care what 1166 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: stats they or with none of that crap. I put 1167 00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: him against anybody that's playing right now. You know, he 1168 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 1: just took down you know, he just I would put 1169 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: him against anybody's playing the game right now. And the 1170 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 1: other thing that I don't think DJ and I say 1171 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: this all the time and people think I'm crazy. Um, 1172 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't think DJ gets enough credit. He's the ultimate 1173 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: field player. And you just don't think of him as 1174 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: being a field type guy. Now he wants the greens. 1175 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,600 Speaker 1: He wants the greens as fast as possible. You know, 1176 01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: if you look at whose one Augusta and the U 1177 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,880 Speaker 1: s open too fast as you can possibly play, you know. 1178 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 1: And he loves act. He likes to drip them down 1179 01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and just drip him in. I'm the opposite like to 1180 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, like the Bank of Man. That's why I 1181 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 1: never played well and you know anywhere. But you know, 1182 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,960 Speaker 1: he is, he is unbelievable. His routine is the way 1183 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: he does things every day, his focus, you know, he 1184 01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: does his workouts, he hits his wedges for forty five 1185 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: minutes and then he gets in and it's an all 1186 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: day affair for him. And here's a guy that signed 1187 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: for a ton of cash up fun and you know 1188 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 1: he made a made a ton on the course. When's 1189 01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the individual And still Brian's like he's trying to get 1190 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 1: his tour card for the first time. Yeah, I mean, 1191 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: it's it's been, it's been. Interested Back to incent of 1192 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: what's the incentive. The incentive is that you can actually 1193 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: know and because it doesn't out of money, incentive is 1194 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: that you can make, you know, I mean you look 1195 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: at you look at what you know. DJ made, you know, 1196 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: eighteen million on the individual, another seventeen on the course 1197 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: and in that eight weeks there's plenty of the center there. 1198 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,800 Speaker 1: You can say it's not about the mind money that 1199 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 1: it is there. It's there. Yeah. And the one thing 1200 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I find about golf is is there is this kind 1201 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 1: of weird thing that you know, you hear stories all 1202 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: the time about a guy that you know had to 1203 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, sleeping in his car and was working it, 1204 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, Walmart to try and you know, pay to 1205 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: go to Q school and stuff like that, and you know, 1206 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, sleeping you know, on his parents couch and 1207 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: everybody you know, for some reason in golf everybody goes, 1208 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,440 Speaker 1: oh man and then a great story. I'm like, no, 1209 01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 1: that's not a great story story. It's not a great 1210 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: story that a guy had to Basically, there's the kid 1211 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: that um the guy that works for us. In Dubai 1212 01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Su John Su John saying played on the Asian Tour. 1213 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 1: He teaches for for me now at my academy in Dubai. 1214 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: He played the Asian Tour. He was a really good 1215 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 1: player still is. He came to the live event Saudi 1216 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,919 Speaker 1: Arabia and was walking around the practice grounds and he said, man, 1217 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: I missed this so much, you know, playing professional golf. 1218 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 1: I just ran out of money. I didn't have enough 1219 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 1: money to continue to play. And we hear stories like 1220 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: that Pat all the time and in golf, and everybody goes, oh, man, 1221 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: what a great story. It's not a great story. It's 1222 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,840 Speaker 1: not a great story. You shouldn't have to mortgage your 1223 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: house and sell your car to go to Q school. 1224 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: You know that. That's and that is the biggest I 1225 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 1: can't believe they got rid of Custa anyway. For the tour. 1226 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 1: The tour is making so much money on that. You know, 1227 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: when I wanted was fifty grand first place. Ten thousand 1228 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Africans paying five grand? What the hell are that money going? 1229 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Where's all that money going? But you know, I hear 1230 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 1: all the time like but I can never figure out. 1231 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 1: And this is why people get so pissed about the 1232 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: money things with guys taking money, and that's a For 1233 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,760 Speaker 1: some reason, it's become the norm that golfers are supposed 1234 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to absolutely earn every penny that they make, and if 1235 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: they don't play well, they don't get paid. Welcome. The 1236 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:25,280 Speaker 1: Lakers started off holding five and all those guys are 1237 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: making three to five hundred thousand a night, and it's 1238 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 1: like going over going over seven. That spens basketball though there. Yeah, 1239 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 1: they're guaranteed money. I don't understand why the golfer is 1240 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be on such the struggle bus for so long, 1241 01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,800 Speaker 1: and there's so many more guys that are not making 1242 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 1: money than there are guys on top making a ton 1243 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: of breath. And all they've done now the tour, all 1244 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: they've done is just separate the fact of here's a 1245 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 1: bunch of guys who are gonna make a shipload of cash, 1246 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: and you guys are gonna make fucking you know, a 1247 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 1: millimeter more cash. That's it, So good luck to you all. 1248 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 1: I just don't get it. I don't understand why, oh man, 1249 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: that last pot cost him seventy grand he missed it. Yeah, 1250 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 1: guy finger all the fucking lay up and missed it. 1251 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: The cost the damn thing. He got on the fucking 1252 01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: he went and had He went and had fucking steak, 1253 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 1: got on the private plane drinking dom sham, flew to 1254 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: the writs of the next city. No problem. The other guy, 1255 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: he fucking you know, missed the cut, he gets back on, 1256 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: goes southwest, fucking see sixty eight, you know, gets on, 1257 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: free bag of peanuts, half a drink. I mean, it's 1258 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:39,320 Speaker 1: I don't understand why this struggle they said, Oh, we 1259 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: respected so much more. I know you don't, but you don't. 1260 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: You fucking love that story because you watch the guy 1261 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,919 Speaker 1: that's actually struggling. You loved the people love to see 1262 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: a struggle. That's wyeah. And then then the other thing 1263 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: that I think you know that we talked about it, 1264 01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 1: that's different. You know, the struggling part of it. You know, 1265 01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: you've got all the counties that you know from. You 1266 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: know that have You know, in my opinion, you know, 1267 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: one of the hardest jobs anybody thinks carrying that golf 1268 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: bag around, you know, walking you know all the holes 1269 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: you guys walk, but you had caddies when they were 1270 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: still on the PGA tour. You these are grown men 1271 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 1: with families trying to put trying to share an airbnb 1272 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,440 Speaker 1: and rent one car and all of this because they've 1273 01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: just got to try and find some way to limit 1274 01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: the amount of call set. There isn't a company that 1275 01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 1: you can work for that if they send you to 1276 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 1: another city. If you're a salesman and they send you 1277 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: in another city, you don't pay for that of the company. 1278 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,520 Speaker 1: That No, But it's also like, oh, this struggle is 1279 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 1: what builds character, makes you appreciate it, and this is 1280 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,479 Speaker 1: what builds you in your career. Fucking Tiger signed forty 1281 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: million rather the gate floated on on a private plane. 1282 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,919 Speaker 1: He's okay without the struggle. He didn't struggle, right, guy 1283 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,360 Speaker 1: became a superstar overnight and just escalate it all the 1284 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:02,040 Speaker 1: way to the top of the top, never looked back. Okay. 1285 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: He didn't struggle phills the same way Phil want a 1286 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,120 Speaker 1: tournament as an amateur. He didn't struggle sign who knows 1287 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 1: whatever the hell he signed out of college boom all 1288 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 1: the way to the top. So it's not about it's 1289 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: not always the struggle. Oh, it builds character, you know, 1290 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: driving like me and ate struggle for twenty three weeks 1291 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: on the Buy dot Com tour the world, fucking twenty 1292 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,360 Speaker 1: three weeks NonStop. It didn't build anything. It's just all 1293 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: we had. That's all we had. Didn't Oh my god, 1294 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: I missed those days and funk that idea, you Kidney, 1295 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: But I miss any of that ship that was fucking miserable. 1296 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: Last time I'm drinking. Last I had seven thousand dollars 1297 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: with a wine in the fucking brisket. Now that's the 1298 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: ship I want to do. Okay, that's what I want 1299 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,959 Speaker 1: to do, not fucking drive twenty three weeks across the tour. 1300 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 1: I built character. No, I didn't build ship. Did did 1301 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:58,200 Speaker 1: h your caddy winning the closest to the hole at Sawgrass? 1302 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: Did that build? You gotta tell this story. This is 1303 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,520 Speaker 1: a great this beauty this year. This is two that 1304 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:07,520 Speaker 1: other fifteen island hold of TPC. This is the epitome 1305 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: of the fucking PJ tour. This is the saddest thing 1306 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: I've ever heard in my life. And I was so 1307 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: fu kissed. I'm still mad about it. So every year, 1308 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, on seventeen, there's a box out there is 1309 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: the Bruce Edwards you know box they don't need money 1310 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 1: to cancer and great and that's you know, it's wonderful 1311 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: you put money in this box. And then at the 1312 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 1: end the caddy players, all the players put in mind 1313 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,640 Speaker 1: there was a two one dollar and I got a 1314 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,919 Speaker 1: good idea put the one dollar. And I'm not gonna 1315 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: say his main bell. But anyway, so agent to the 1316 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: three feet seven inches a funk. I'm going crazy. This 1317 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:42,640 Speaker 1: is fucking awesome. It's towards the end of the day. 1318 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, win wins, I'm going crazy. Is phenomenal. Well, 1319 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,480 Speaker 1: come weeks ago, bock, guys, I forgot to ask the 1320 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,920 Speaker 1: tour and then the tour matches that right, yeah, no, 1321 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 1: but this is yeah, this is the only thing because 1322 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm asking a couple weekstad. I go, hey, I said, 1323 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, what do you do with the cash? It's 1324 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,640 Speaker 1: good ages, real, you know, kind of straight. Lace doesn't 1325 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,400 Speaker 1: really wouldn't really say anything. I said, we didn't do 1326 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,080 Speaker 1: it all that fun cash. It wasn't cash I got. 1327 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:13,640 Speaker 1: I got a check in the mail at ut So 1328 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,960 Speaker 1: what the fund are you talking about? Who's cash in 1329 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,240 Speaker 1: that box? Yeah? You know, I found out the tour 1330 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: they mastered, they doubled it, and they gave it to 1331 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,280 Speaker 1: charity and wrote this big story that they matched the 1332 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,040 Speaker 1: six you know, they put sixteen th four hundred and 1333 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,680 Speaker 1: two dollars and they wrote and then they got to 1334 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,560 Speaker 1: write it off. But I had to pay tax on. 1335 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 1: I go, you're fucking kidney. I got on the phone. 1336 01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,320 Speaker 1: I called any pastor, and I wore his fucking ass out. 1337 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 1: I said, you guys are the biggest chicken dick motherfucker's 1338 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: I've had in my life. I said, you fucking took 1339 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: our cash and gave him a check and made him 1340 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 1: pay tax on our cash. And you wrote this big 1341 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: fucking story about how you're giving sixteen down four hundred 1342 01:08:56,320 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 1: dollars to the Bruce Edwards cancer deal making yours to 1343 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: flickery sad. Why don't you put the whole story of there. 1344 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 1: You took our cast, which is basically a hundred dollars 1345 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,760 Speaker 1: that my hunter became twenty, and then you made the 1346 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,559 Speaker 1: caddy pay tax on that to help you're not your 1347 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 1: tax exempt status, to help yourself. I mean, I've sucking 1348 01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 1: one of these guys out. I was so pissed about it. 1349 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: And then every year I kept telling players, don't put 1350 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 1: money in that box, just give them give the hundred 1351 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 1: dollars to the caddy when you see him. It got 1352 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 1: so bad that this year there's a credit card machine. 1353 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 1: Now there's no more box. That players kept they quit 1354 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: doing it, and they the ladies name is Kathy, she 1355 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: goes you gotta put your credit cards. I'm not putting 1356 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: the fucking thing in that deal. I said, I'm gonna 1357 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:42,600 Speaker 1: get it. No, no, you you have to. This is 1358 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 1: how we do it, I said, Cathy, I know the scam. 1359 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: This goes back to one of the biggest scams I've 1360 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,400 Speaker 1: ever seen, you know. But funny enough, I'm not surprised 1361 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: at the tour. This is how they do it. So 1362 01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,120 Speaker 1: now you're supposed to put a credit card in so 1363 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 1: that they can do it that way. I'm like, you 1364 01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,280 Speaker 1: fucking chicken dick bastards. I have never even hard of 1365 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 1: something like this, and you guys have pulled it off 1366 01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: for how many years now? Lastly, Pott obviously, um, you 1367 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 1: know you've mentioned that more than likely your PGA tour 1368 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:16,400 Speaker 1: career is over. Um, were there any courses? This is 1369 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,560 Speaker 1: a legit question because I know there are courses that 1370 01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,559 Speaker 1: you won't miss, right, and I know what they are, 1371 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 1: exactly what those courses are. Are there courses and tournaments 1372 01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:30,000 Speaker 1: that that that you're going to miss. I'm gonna miss 1373 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,120 Speaker 1: Tory because I grew up there. I'm gonna miss riv 1374 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: because I think it's one of the greatest courses in 1375 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 1: all American And really, other than that, you know that's all, 1376 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: I got in a gust every year, so I'm not 1377 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,719 Speaker 1: gonna miss that one. I would love to play there again, 1378 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,400 Speaker 1: but um, you know that that's that's kind of it, 1379 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, Ribs Ribs one. I'm gonna miss this year, 1380 01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: sure as I'm gonna miss this TBC Scottsdale. Um, you 1381 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 1: know my Coba this week. I'm kind of sad to 1382 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 1: wonder a couple years I've I'd love to play there, 1383 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 1: but you know there's there's not too many I'm gonna 1384 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:13,080 Speaker 1: mess not too more at all. Um, congratulations. I mean 1385 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people. And I can say that because 1386 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 1: I know, you know, I get crushed at any time 1387 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I say anything positive about anybody on Live. But I've 1388 01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: seen you put in the work, and um, you know, 1389 01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what happens in three What are 1390 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,160 Speaker 1: you gonna do? This is the other thing. You now 1391 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: have three months off? Right, lives got three months off. 1392 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: We just saw Rory McElroy after winning at Congaree, going 1393 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,639 Speaker 1: back to number one in the world, and his press 1394 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:40,559 Speaker 1: conference say golfers need a break. You're actually the guys 1395 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 1: on Live are actually going to get a real break now. Um, 1396 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 1: probably the first time in your professional life that you 1397 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: get time three months. Um, it's been about yeah, it's 1398 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: been six what what what are the plans for the 1399 01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,960 Speaker 1: three months? Well, I'm gonna drink this week, Uh, celebrate 1400 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,600 Speaker 1: our win. It's fucking call that side. So I'm not 1401 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 1: going outside either. But I do have to get I 1402 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:05,720 Speaker 1: got a lot of things to do that which I 1403 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,880 Speaker 1: haven't a bill to do forever. I've got I gotta 1404 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: organize so much ship. I've got three massive storage you know. 1405 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,280 Speaker 1: It's I got all these goddamn shoes. I gotta organized. 1406 01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm gonna spend time with the kids. Um, 1407 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, Ashley, I'm gonna you know, continue to do 1408 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,320 Speaker 1: peloton and probably try to work out some you know, 1409 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: I get a program and and you know in place. 1410 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,680 Speaker 1: But really I've got until February, you know, but it 1411 01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:31,040 Speaker 1: warms up. I've got a couple of member guests. I'm 1412 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,600 Speaker 1: looking forward to playing. I'm looking in a Vegas a 1413 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: couple of times. Uh you know. But about in mid December, 1414 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: I'll really started hitting hard again and working on my 1415 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,639 Speaker 1: game and and you know, get stronger, and I'm really 1416 01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: excited for next year. Like I said, I can't wait 1417 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,200 Speaker 1: to get going. And but you know, I'm gonna take 1418 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,320 Speaker 1: all of November. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm gonna 1419 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang out and relaxed, and you know, I 1420 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 1: work out, but I'm not I'm not gonna play golf. Um, 1421 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: but you know, so I want to come back when 1422 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,240 Speaker 1: I when I started in December, I'm gonna be real fresh, 1423 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,519 Speaker 1: really excited to play. And I got a month and 1424 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,320 Speaker 1: a half to really work hard out and get ready 1425 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: for for the Aces next year. Well, I'm looking forward 1426 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 1: to you, um continuing to play good and uh, continuing 1427 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: to make the haters hate more, because um, you know 1428 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: I still I still believe you've got a lot of 1429 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: good golf left. Yeah. I love the fans, love the 1430 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: haters more. I love them because they get so mad. 1431 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 1: But it ain't changing my bank account. So thanks for 1432 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:33,759 Speaker 1: talking to us. We got so that was Pat Perez 1433 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,479 Speaker 1: And as I said in the opening, um you know 1434 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: which you know what you're going to get from Pat, 1435 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 1: and um, listen, I think this whole thing for all 1436 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: the players involved, both on the PGA Tour side and 1437 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,560 Speaker 1: the live side, it's personal for them, right. Um, the 1438 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: golf land state, whether you like it, whether you don't 1439 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 1: like it. Um, the golf landscape has changed, and UM, 1440 01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to get the word out about what's going on, 1441 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, in the game of golf in instruction. UM, 1442 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: I think it would be a disservice to the listeners, 1443 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: all of you listening, if I didn't get people on 1444 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:15,080 Speaker 1: that are playing on Live, and I'm going to continue 1445 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 1: to try and get their opinions. I'm going to continue 1446 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 1: to try and get opinions and talk to everybody involved 1447 01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: in the game of golf. So, like I said in 1448 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:26,840 Speaker 1: the beginning, if that changed your mind about pat and 1449 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the way you feel about Live, cool. If it didn't, 1450 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: that's cool too. I mean I don't think really, I mean, 1451 01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,000 Speaker 1: I honestly think at this point, UM, the line has 1452 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,720 Speaker 1: been drawn and stand people are in the trenches, and 1453 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,640 Speaker 1: whatever trench you're in, I'm cool with that. And for 1454 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:47,360 Speaker 1: whatever reason you're in that trench with the PGA Tour, 1455 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: if you're on the live side, I'm good with that too. 1456 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: But UM, I do think that the people involved in 1457 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 1: professional golf, the people playing, the people that stayed with 1458 01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour, the people that have chosen to go 1459 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: with Live, they all have their reasons, they all have 1460 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,880 Speaker 1: their stories, and hopefully I can get those stories out 1461 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,519 Speaker 1: and get those voices out so everybody can kind of 1462 01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 1: make up their own opinions and stuff like that. But UM, 1463 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I spend an enormous amount of time with Pat um 1464 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: and listen. I like him. Um, he's a reverend, he's crazy. 1465 01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything he says, but um, you 1466 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get. And if you want an 1467 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: opinion on a subject, UM, he's one to talk to. 1468 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: So I'm glad I talked to him, um and UM. 1469 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I thought he had a 1470 01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: lot to say and UM, you know, we'll see where 1471 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: the chips fall. But um, thanks everyone for listening. I 1472 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,200 Speaker 1: think out of all the episodes, um, that we've done, 1473 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 1: given the current landscape of where we are in two 1474 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,879 Speaker 1: professional golf, Um, if you've got people that are interested 1475 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: in golf, if you've got people that are, you know, 1476 01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: talking about what's going on on the PGA tour, what's 1477 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:01,760 Speaker 1: going on on live and stuff. If they don't know 1478 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 1: about the podcast, tell them to listen to this episode. 1479 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 1: And UM, I think they will get something out of it. 1480 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 1: Son of a which comes to you every Wednesday. We 1481 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: will see you all next week.