Speaker 1: Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,
Speaker 1: an iHeartRadio podcast. Well, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 2: Hello, call it crew. This still makes me nervous.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was gonna say, we're talking about one of
Speaker 1: your favorite subjects. It is lamydiat, which is why I'm nervous.
Speaker 1: So nervous.
Speaker 2: No, I'm nervous because we're gonna be talking about something
Speaker 2: that I had never gone before. You had you done
Speaker 2: this before?
Speaker 1: Well here's the funny thing. Well, I'm just gonna call it.
Speaker 1: We're talking about astrology. And I had a friend reach
Speaker 1: out and say, oh my gosh, I'm with this astrologist
Speaker 1: who's so phenomenal. She works with her twin sister and
Speaker 1: she's nearby and would you want to do a reading?
Speaker 1: And I said, uh yeah, And so she came over
Speaker 1: to my house and she walked in and she's so
Speaker 1: lovely and she said, you won't remember, but we've met,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, of course. I always get
Speaker 1: embarrassed because I'm like, oh, do I not remember? What
Speaker 1: are you talking? It was like twenty years ago, so
Speaker 1: really like when I just started acting and just moved
Speaker 1: out to Los Angeles. She did a reading for me.
Speaker 3: She told me what she told well, she told me
Speaker 3: that she thinks she met you at an emmy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like an alien suite where they were like
Speaker 3: a sweet where they were doing it and she met
Speaker 3: you then and.
Speaker 2: And then Jessica.
Speaker 3: Introduced me to her. You know what's funny is I
Speaker 3: was already following them on Instagram. Oh, that's funny, the
Speaker 3: Astra Twins.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I, as you guys know, because you've listened to
Speaker 3: us now a million times, we talked about.
Speaker 2: Our signs a lot. However, I have never done a
Speaker 2: deep dive into my sign.
Speaker 1: Well, because it's your whole chart.
Speaker 3: Chart, it's your whole chart. I have never had my
Speaker 3: chart done. And we're going to be sharing how you
Speaker 3: do that, what it kind of all means. And we're
Speaker 3: going to be sharing a little bit about our charts,
Speaker 3: which was so crazy and wild, so cool.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when she came over, she brought
Speaker 1: she and her sister published these incredible books that are
Speaker 1: very specific to your sign. So you've got like the Leo,
Speaker 1: like a year for a Leo twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: then you know, just astrology.
Speaker 4: For the year.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they're so beautiful. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a coffee table book for me. I'd put that out
Speaker 1: there anywhere. But I actually ended up looking at it
Speaker 1: a bunch when I after she did my chart, and
Speaker 1: then like the next three or four weeks, I ended
Speaker 1: up just sort of referring to it, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was really really interesting. Also. I mean this does
Speaker 1: not mean this is not a nay saying thing about Astra,
Speaker 1: but I did find it after like two weeks. I
Speaker 1: would be like, well, if there was if there was
Speaker 1: a question, I'd be like, well, let me consult the book.
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a second, hold on, we're not consulting books.
Speaker 4: About what to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: This isn't the oracle. We have not We're not. We
Speaker 1: haven't lost all sense of who we are.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I think though, I think that what struck
Speaker 3: me is I grew up not reading horoscopes right like
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I was not someone that read my horoscope.
Speaker 3: And then just learning more about science a little bit,
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I see, I see how this
Speaker 3: could be true. And but when I had my chart done, oh,
Speaker 3: there was a moment where she was doing it where
Speaker 3: I really took my breathway, which I'll share with you.
Speaker 3: I haven't even told Jessica, so she meant she's got
Speaker 3: to hear it with you guys. But no, it was
Speaker 3: really it was a wild experience. Actually, I found it
Speaker 3: to be a very wild experience. So jess bring Ophe
Speaker 3: in to tell our listeners all the things about the stuff.
Speaker 1: Yes we should.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So for those who are fans of astrology, understanding what,
Speaker 5: how and where it is to be found in your life,
Speaker 5: you are in for a treat.
Speaker 4: Hi.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. We just were talking about you, and
Speaker 1: I was telling everyone that after you gave me the
Speaker 1: beautiful books, which you know is the astrology for the
Speaker 1: year for all, and then the one that was specific
Speaker 1: to me as Leo, I was just poring over them.
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough. I was like, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: such it's an amazing, amazing, amazing resource source of fun.
Speaker 1: I really just really enjoyed them. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4: Oh good Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was telling jess that our I didn't I
Speaker 3: was going to call her after we did our chart, right,
Speaker 3: and I didn't because there are a couple of things
Speaker 3: you already know that I was really blown away about.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm gonna save it for the
Speaker 3: pod for the listeners for just the first time, because
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know what it was in for,
Speaker 3: and it really just took my breath away.
Speaker 4: Oh I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like we have to start with you,
Speaker 1: even though we did me first.
Speaker 3: Well, I think we should start by just talking about
Speaker 3: what it is, because I really went into this reading
Speaker 3: not understanding reading your chart even right.
Speaker 4: And by the way, my sister is going to come
Speaker 4: on too, so keeping up her entry. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 4: got okay, this is.
Speaker 6: Tolly a double ganger. We have the same voice, and
Speaker 6: it'll be weird for a minute, but here we are.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's weird at all. I think it's
Speaker 1: actually super cool to me. You guys are like wonder
Speaker 1: Twins unit. It's like super like yeah, super like super twins. People,
Speaker 1: super twins.
Speaker 6: We'll take it. We're all meeting each other's other half.
Speaker 4: So it's true.
Speaker 1: It's self. Admittedly, my journey with astrology began as the
Speaker 1: daughter of a woman who read magazines, right, So it
Speaker 1: was just like every month you'd get the magazine and
Speaker 1: you take your little finger and get to your sign,
Speaker 1: and then you read it and it would be like
Speaker 1: the oracle spoke right, You're like, oh, And it was
Speaker 1: always funny because the magazine obviously comes out before the month,
Speaker 1: and I remember a couple of times there are some
Speaker 1: astrologists and it must be a real balancing act, which
Speaker 1: we'll get to, you know, at some point it's like
Speaker 1: whether your stars look you know, positive or negative for
Speaker 1: that that month. We all know, you know, we can
Speaker 1: do hard things, and you got to you gotta have
Speaker 1: some shit to get to the to the good stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's not a bad thing. But sometimes I'm imagining
Speaker 1: you have, you know, people who come to you that
Speaker 1: are not so excited to hear about that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember reading them sometimes and I'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not a good month. This is gonna be terrible.
Speaker 3: Can we skip to.
Speaker 4: The next month totally?
Speaker 1: And then I think as I grew up, you know,
Speaker 1: more and more I am a leo, so this makes
Speaker 1: sense that I would just sort of get deeper and
Speaker 1: deeper into it. And then there's a couple of good, old,
Speaker 1: reliable books that have been in my life where when
Speaker 1: you look up who you are, I mean, they all
Speaker 1: sort of the traits make sense.
Speaker 4: And so I.
Speaker 1: Always think it's like it's in my life, it's been
Speaker 1: equal parts of wander awe and self discovery at the
Speaker 1: same time that it's been sort of frivolous and playful
Speaker 1: and like, you know, I don't know, just another little
Speaker 1: piece nothing that that there wasn't necessarily.
Speaker 4: Like super important.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that that's you know, something that
Speaker 1: that that happens. But uh, I have a Sagittarius partner
Speaker 1: who talks about her sagittarianism.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And and you guys are sad too, right,
Speaker 2: are ye a second sagull Wow?
Speaker 1: Three to one people.
Speaker 2: Are welcome.
Speaker 3: No, I've I've I think I've just leaned way more
Speaker 3: into it in my adult life. I think that I'm
Speaker 3: just way more open in my adult life to sort
Speaker 3: of listening to all those to kind of everything a
Speaker 3: little bit. But again, I really didn't know what reading
Speaker 3: someone's chart involved or how you even read it. So
Speaker 3: for people like me listening, how are you describe how
Speaker 3: this happens?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and totally hear you on the magazines because
Speaker 4: we that's how we started to like when we were teenagers.
Speaker 4: We'd flip to the back of the magazine and be like,
Speaker 4: oh God, on the twenty seventh, someone's going to break
Speaker 4: my heart. It's only the first What am I going
Speaker 4: to do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: So, but when we discovered the actual birth chart, So
Speaker 4: to answer your question, when you read a magazine, you're
Speaker 4: just reading what's called your son's sign horoscope, ope, your
Speaker 4: zodiac sign, which is plenty interesting and there's lots of
Speaker 4: fodder there. But what we learned by mistake that changed
Speaker 4: our lives probably thirty years ago, was that at your
Speaker 4: moment of birth, if you were to look up at
Speaker 4: the sky overhead and take a screenshot of it, the
Speaker 4: arrangement of the planet's based on where you were born
Speaker 4: at that at that second, it gives you a map
Speaker 4: that gives you an entire map of your strengths, your weaknesses,
Speaker 4: your tendencies. And that's called your birth chart, which you know, Camilla,
Speaker 4: I just read yours for the first time the other day.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and so when my college boyfriend got me
Speaker 4: a birth chart for our twenty first birthday, that's our
Speaker 4: birth charts.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, like mine too, yeah, exactly to
Speaker 3: share that one with me, yes, that.
Speaker 4: And that's when it was like, oh wow, there's a
Speaker 4: whole lot more of this. That's when I went from
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, whatever, that was interesting and entertaining to like, oh, whoa,
Speaker 4: who has someone been spying on me? I mean you
Speaker 4: know more about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how do you guys, how do you guys
Speaker 2: study for something like this? How do you learn lead
Speaker 2: a charge?
Speaker 6: I mean there's books and then there's field research, because
Speaker 6: as soon as you start, you know, we found out
Speaker 6: that you know, we are Sagittarius, but the moon sign
Speaker 6: was what you know, you can take it one piece
Speaker 6: at a time because every planet. We think of the
Speaker 6: planets as the cast of characters in the movie of
Speaker 6: everyone's life. So the sun is the main character, your
Speaker 6: main character energy Venus would be a romantic lead. The
Speaker 6: moon is your best supporting. It's how you take care
Speaker 6: of yourself. So if you kind of learn, start with
Speaker 6: your sun's sign and your moon sign, which is how
Speaker 6: we kind of began our obsession. And because Sagittaria's sun
Speaker 6: but moon, which is the inner nature, our moon was
Speaker 6: in the Scorpio part of the sky when we were born,
Speaker 6: and that explained so much because while we are outgoing
Speaker 6: and media lovers and all that, we also have this
Speaker 6: like mystical, introverted, you know, part of ourselves it likes
Speaker 6: to go deep. And then that was so just kind
Speaker 6: of asking all of our friends they're moon signs and
Speaker 6: you know there's apps like co Star out there now
Speaker 6: that kind of do that for you. Or you can
Speaker 6: look at your friends charted. It's so nice to have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we didn't have that Bide.
Speaker 6: World because you can, but it's it's a lot of
Speaker 6: what we started, you know, kind of tracking celebrities. We
Speaker 6: noticed that like a lot of the divas were Aris,
Speaker 6: Aretha Franklin, Shaka Khan, Mariah Carey, Jill Scott, Lady Gaga.
Speaker 6: You know, there's just this you start to see this
Speaker 6: broatless similarity. And you know a lot of virgos too
Speaker 6: are kind of like those mystical pop stars too, but
Speaker 6: in a more like they're not like big hair on
Speaker 6: you know, a vagus stage like an areas and we're like,
Speaker 6: Beyonce shouldn't have a Twain pink like they're gonna give you.
Speaker 4: A wine house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's those you just start to see the patterns,
Speaker 6: you know, and you know, being a little you know,
Speaker 6: we may or may not have I may or may
Speaker 6: not have counted the tile patterns on our childhood bathroom
Speaker 6: shower stall. There's like one that's skipped to. Anyways, you
Speaker 6: have done a little bit of a pattern brains, the
Speaker 6: pattern brain.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for people, so for people who are interested
Speaker 1: in it and they're just coming to it. This is
Speaker 1: your zodiac sign, is so mind Leo?
Speaker 4: Hers is such sher.
Speaker 1: Then the birth chart then explains further again the snapshot
Speaker 1: of the sky in the moment that you were born,
Speaker 1: wherever you from wherever you were born. Is there a
Speaker 1: big difference or is it just like you open the
Speaker 1: aperture more like you like you're you're always a Leo.
Speaker 1: But when you do a birth chart, you just get
Speaker 1: a bigger picture of it.
Speaker 6: I think so the way I think of it as
Speaker 6: your son's son, Leo makes you blue, but all the
Speaker 6: other planets, because that is like the sun is the
Speaker 6: center of it all. You know, that's your personality. But
Speaker 6: then all the planets and they tint it. They'll make
Speaker 6: you light blue or periwinkle or navy, and so it
Speaker 6: it colors you. And you can also break it down
Speaker 6: to different areas of life too, because you may like
Speaker 6: you may just you always bring Leo main character energy
Speaker 6: everywhere you go. But you know, in an like a
Speaker 6: close family moment, your moon will take over when you're
Speaker 6: on a date, Venus will take over when you're shopping,
Speaker 6: Venus will take over when you need to like hunker
Speaker 6: down and be motivated Mars. So you can kind of
Speaker 6: look think of each of the planets as an ally,
Speaker 6: and when you learn what each sign, what sign each
Speaker 6: one is in, you can use it to energize that
Speaker 6: area of your life.
Speaker 4: So everyone's very different. Yeah, I mean no, two Leos
Speaker 4: really are like even us as identical twins four minutes apart,
Speaker 4: have like some slight variations.
Speaker 2: Interesting. So I heard that your sun sign is what
Speaker 2: your outer presentation sign to the world, and your moon
Speaker 2: signs your inner is.
Speaker 3: How would you describe the difference. I've heard it described
Speaker 3: different ways. Would you guys describe that the rising.
Speaker 4: Is really the rising sign is really the main outer,
Speaker 4: but the sun is like, yeah, the basics.
Speaker 1: But the rising is your main outer. I thought your sun.
Speaker 4: Now the rising sign is how you present yourself. So
Speaker 4: you're a Scorpio rising, I am, yeah, So you come
Speaker 4: across would come across a little more intense and observant
Speaker 4: than like a Leo who might have a Leo rising,
Speaker 4: you know, Canella, you have a Leo rising, so you're
Speaker 4: going to be more exuberant and open and that kind
Speaker 4: of thing. So, yeah, but the sun is who is
Speaker 4: the basic nature of who you are and does.
Speaker 6: Now you shine in the world. It's your energy source.
Speaker 6: And the moon is maybe how you recharge yourself. You know,
Speaker 6: the moon is if you know, the sun is the
Speaker 6: car the you know, the moon is the recharging station.
Speaker 6: I don't know that, ye metaphor I'm confusing us, but
Speaker 6: it's your inner no, no.
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense. And then your rising is.
Speaker 6: How you present yourself your first impressions the rising sign.
Speaker 6: Really so the birth chart looks like a pizza right so,
Speaker 6: or a clock divided into twelve and the nine o'clock
Speaker 6: point whatever zodiac sign is crossing through there or on
Speaker 6: the horizon, on the horizon when you're born. So when
Speaker 6: you were born, Jessica, the scorpio piece of the sky
Speaker 6: was the one that was, you know, on the eastern horizon.
Speaker 6: And it kind of is like what how you dawn
Speaker 6: in the world, how you wake up to the world
Speaker 6: and for you Comella, it was Leo. So it's just,
Speaker 6: you know, it's kind of like the rising sign isn't
Speaker 6: really important too. It's just you have to have your
Speaker 6: birth time to know it. And so a lot of
Speaker 6: people are saying you should read your rising sign and
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, that leaves fifty percent of the world
Speaker 6: out of astrology, and that's that's not fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the most challenging sign?
Speaker 4: Who's got the worst reputation? Semini, Gemini, Capricorn, and Scorpio.
Speaker 4: I have the most complaints about, especially the men.
Speaker 2: Can I marry to a Gemini?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: I know a lovely one too.
Speaker 2: But you know, wait, Jessica, what's Christopher's sign?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 1: I have to know Aries?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Aries?
Speaker 6: That happens a lot with Leo to fire signs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: a little little power struggle, but fun.
Speaker 4: I'd say, there's there's a you know, you could say
Speaker 4: there's a challenging tendency to every sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 1: I asked that when OPI was there, I was like,
Speaker 1: we were talking about my husband, like, what's really challenging
Speaker 1: about him? And it was like, you know, for a
Speaker 1: so you can say, what are the challenging parts of aries?
Speaker 4: We're saying that Aries they're very dynamic, but they can
Speaker 4: be really entitled too, and.
Speaker 6: They won't give you attention on demand, but they'll want
Speaker 6: attention on manned.
Speaker 3: It's like that's stunny anyways.
Speaker 1: So I was saying, okay, great, that's all fine and good,
Speaker 1: but let's be fair, like I don't just want the
Speaker 1: good about me, right, like what are what's what's what's
Speaker 1: what are my what can be my week spots?
Speaker 4: And you said, oh, as a Leo.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Leo's definitely when they same thing with a similar
Speaker 6: to Aries, but even more, Leo's need a lot of interactivity.
Speaker 6: They need a lot of like into me, I see intimacy.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's yes, not everyone can handle that level of
Speaker 6: like enthusiasm, Like if someone doesn't match Leo's mood, it
Speaker 6: can be crushing when they're excited or they want to play.
Speaker 6: Our mom is a Leo. She wanted to go. She
Speaker 6: was like, okay, girls, what are we doing? Or getting
Speaker 6: horseback riding a roller skate? I mean, great, mom, great,
Speaker 6: couldn't but sometimes you just want to read a book.
Speaker 6: And it was like she would just be so hurt
Speaker 6: when we just didn't want to play, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 4: Want to be girl scouts in high school. You know,
Speaker 4: stuff like that.
Speaker 6: You did try to make us do that.
Speaker 1: We talked about your mom enough for me to feel
Speaker 1: like I love her.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, she's great. She's great Leo. Those of us
Speaker 4: Leo moms are very lucky.
Speaker 3: But yes, I have a controversial question I heard and
Speaker 3: I don't I'm asking this not knowing the answer, but
Speaker 3: I remember reading it that most serial killers have a
Speaker 3: common sign.
Speaker 2: Do you guys?
Speaker 4: I heard it was ours sign Sagittarius.
Speaker 6: No, I think it's scorpio. It's scorpio.
Speaker 4: I recently heard it was sad though.
Speaker 1: Actually, oh, there's a debate. So my rising is a
Speaker 1: scorpio and my mom is a scorpio. And someone told
Speaker 1: me that quite often your rising will be your mother's sign.
Speaker 4: Is that true. I'm not sure if that happens because
Speaker 4: it changes every two hours. But if it is your
Speaker 4: mother's son, you will look like her. You probably do you?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yes, one, that's so crazy.
Speaker 6: The members in the chart represents the mother and the
Speaker 6: son the father, by the way, so that's another way
Speaker 6: of looking like your relationship with your mother can be
Speaker 6: defined by your moon sign and your relationship with your
Speaker 6: father by your son's sign. So it's funny. Our dad
Speaker 6: is a landscaper and he's a Sagittarius like us.
Speaker 4: But as you know, a serial killer.
Speaker 6: Not a serial kid, unless you're like somebody's lawn in Detroit,
Speaker 6: if you're a weed, he's a serial kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how can you use before we get into like
Speaker 3: some fun things about what we discovered in our charts,
Speaker 3: how do you guys? We can look at it like
Speaker 3: you know that when we were born, but how do
Speaker 3: you use it moving forward?
Speaker 2: How do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How do you or how does it help you?
Speaker 4: I mean there's two ways to use it. You can
Speaker 4: use it as a psychological or personality profile of yourself,
Speaker 4: just your chart. And then you can use it as
Speaker 4: a cosmic weather vein or planning tool where you take
Speaker 4: your chart because your chart never moves, and you compare
Speaker 4: it with the planets in the past, present, or future
Speaker 4: to see, oh, why did that happen that way back then.
Speaker 2: Or a month from now.
Speaker 4: I have an audition or I have this project, what
Speaker 4: should I look for? What might be happening? You can
Speaker 4: see where certain energies are going to be available to you.
Speaker 2: And we talked about when you were doing a chart,
Speaker 2: it was mentioned mercury and retrograde, right, which we all hear.
Speaker 2: What exactly it's blamed for everything?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why does it get blamed for everything? What exactly does
Speaker 2: it mean?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, mercury passes the Earth and it's orbit three times.
Speaker 6: It takes eighty eight days to go around the Sun,
Speaker 6: so it's zipping around super fast. And so when it
Speaker 6: passes us, it is like that optical illusion of two
Speaker 6: trains passing each other different speeds and one appears to
Speaker 6: go backwards. It's not really moving backwards, but from our
Speaker 6: vantage point here on Earth, it's moving backwards through the Zodiac,
Speaker 6: through the sky, and so it's almost like so mercury
Speaker 6: is in charge of data, information scheduling, our communication, our
Speaker 6: mobile devices, so those types of things go haywire. They
Speaker 6: tend to go backwards. Like old friends will show up,
Speaker 6: you'll get a text from an X, You'll get like
Speaker 6: a car, you'll have to go fix your car. You'll
Speaker 6: have to you know, your schedule for your flight gets
Speaker 6: canceled and changed. So it does tend I think retrogrades
Speaker 6: are moments where we're supposed to hit pause, but no
Speaker 6: one likes to do that. We're all like, go go, go,
Speaker 6: go go. So knowing when a mercury retrograde is coming
Speaker 6: is helpful because then you know, like we're both going
Speaker 6: to la you know, tomorrow, so we're gonna have to
Speaker 6: get on planes. I'll be leaving early, extra early for
Speaker 6: the airport just in case.
Speaker 1: Just like Camela's dad, he likes to get there five
Speaker 1: hours early.
Speaker 6: Now that is that's a.
Speaker 1: Little two coffee morning for you.
Speaker 2: He's always in retrograde.
Speaker 4: Well, you tell me. With trus and they hate to
Speaker 4: be late. They are punctual to a fault. So that
Speaker 4: tracks with his sign totally.
Speaker 3: So you guys navigate your life looking at the charts
Speaker 3: just sort of make sense of things.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: We're looking at the movement of the planets. Okay, time,
Speaker 6: and you don't need to know your whole chart. We
Speaker 6: can do it with just your sun sign. It means
Speaker 6: it's great when you can look at your whole chart,
Speaker 6: but also simply knowing your sun's sign, you can get
Speaker 6: so much information. Look, we don't, we don't. You know.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's you know, being a risk taking sagittarius, but
Speaker 6: you know, if a Scorpio or Capricorn showed up over
Speaker 6: and over again and wanted to date, even though it
Speaker 6: was terrible every time before, would still go for it.
Speaker 4: It's like you read the warning label, but you might
Speaker 4: still ingest because you know it tastes good, even if
Speaker 4: it's bad for you.
Speaker 6: You have to keep living your life. Yes, gide in
Speaker 6: a cave, but you can plan or just make room
Speaker 6: for the fact that there might be some little especially
Speaker 6: near eclipses. Eclipses are I think are the mercury retrograde
Speaker 6: almost a little bit more intense, Like they always come
Speaker 6: in pairs two weeks apart, and the eclipse corridor as
Speaker 6: it's called, the window between them can be really intense.
Speaker 6: There's another one coming up from September seventeenth to October
Speaker 6: second this year, so.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's a long corridor it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are always two weeks apart the eclipse. It's
Speaker 4: like a new moon in a full moon. So yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: moments of change.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 4: You know, people we don't like to change, you know,
Speaker 4: we typically will avoid some of the necessary changes, will
Speaker 4: make other changes. But the eclipses and mercury retrogrades come
Speaker 4: and make us confront the things that maybe we're avoiding.
Speaker 1: Should we get into our own charts and our own
Speaker 1: readings with you I want to hear about I think
Speaker 1: Kimila needs to go first.
Speaker 3: Let's get into our charts and just share a couple
Speaker 3: of things with the call it crew who says this, Oh,
Speaker 3: this is me, this is you, and this is so.
Speaker 4: We did a little reading that Jessica hasn't heard the
Speaker 4: details of. But you are so. Here's that nine o'clock
Speaker 4: rising sign in Leo moon and aries, so you have
Speaker 4: your triple fires sage sun, Leo rising, aries moon, and.
Speaker 3: We'll get all that sage there doesn't mean if you
Speaker 3: are a triple fire sign.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 4: It means you're you.
Speaker 1: It means you're a pain in the ass sometimes, but
Speaker 1: you're also fiery and awesome.
Speaker 2: Can we mute Jessica.
Speaker 1: Means you don't like to walk far distances in foreign cities.
Speaker 2: When I need a pee?
Speaker 3: Anyway, ignore her for anyone else, there's a triple a
Speaker 3: trouble fire.
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you're just You're passionate, you're excited, you're impatient,
Speaker 4: you're always fun. But yes, maybe some people will find
Speaker 4: you exhausting at times. Others a party, always waiting to happen,
Speaker 4: ready to, you know, touch the hot stove and then
Speaker 4: realize you burned yourself later love a burn. All right.
Speaker 2: So, so here's where I got a.
Speaker 3: Little creepy creepy it out. I not creepy it out.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, hang on, we have info. Oh serial killer
Speaker 3: update Capricorn.
Speaker 4: Oh you know that makes sense. I mean, Marilyn Manson
Speaker 4: are Kelly. They're not serial killers.
Speaker 3: Serial killer is born under the sign of Capricorn had
Speaker 3: the highest number of victims.
Speaker 1: Oh great, they were most effective at killing people.
Speaker 2: But the force.
Speaker 3: But the four signs spots are Pisces, Cancer, Sagittarius, and
Speaker 3: Scorpio account for the most, which is forty percent of
Speaker 3: serial killers.
Speaker 6: All three water signs, and then us well, well those waters.
Speaker 6: I can see water signs being serial killers.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, why would you say that.
Speaker 3: That's really funny, because people who are water signs listening,
Speaker 3: I want to know why.
Speaker 4: I think they bottle up their emotions.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, they're like quietly observing you and waiting to
Speaker 6: suck your soul. No.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, wow, oh my god, I'm not talking about
Speaker 4: the non serial killer water signs. I love you. But
Speaker 4: the ones that are definitely like those, you know, what's
Speaker 4: what lies beneath in the depths of their souls.
Speaker 6: Get their feelings hurt as children and develop, you know
Speaker 6: those like, oh yeah, then everyone as an a dull very.
Speaker 4: Interesting kinds of water signs true.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's so trible fire.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so triple fire.
Speaker 3: But I want to talk about the part that gave
Speaker 3: me pause, which you know what it is, so let's
Speaker 3: talk about it. Yeah, so this was the night I
Speaker 3: was born. Everybody, and then you got to the fourth
Speaker 3: what is it called.
Speaker 4: The fourth house? So these little as we call them
Speaker 4: slices of pizza that your chart is divided up into,
Speaker 4: each represent a different area of your life. And the
Speaker 4: fourth house is the family, and especially the mother and Scorpio,
Speaker 4: right and yeah, and you've got three planets in Scorpio there, so,
Speaker 4: so my mother's son with Scorpio. Your mother's son was Scorpio.
Speaker 4: We have Pluto, which is a planet that can rule
Speaker 4: death in some cases, death addictions, other kind of intense
Speaker 4: shadowy things. We've got Saturn, which is like a kind
Speaker 4: of a heavy thing and there can indicate a heavy
Speaker 4: thing happening in childhood, and then Mars, which is surgery.
Speaker 4: And you told me that your mom died from complications
Speaker 4: to surgery.
Speaker 3: So in the mother house Scorpio, we have death and surgery.
Speaker 6: Wow.
Speaker 3: And that was a really intense thing to see on
Speaker 3: my birth on my birthday.
Speaker 6: How old were you?
Speaker 2: I was. I was nineteen, so I was. I mean,
Speaker 2: I felt like a kid still, but you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was just like really blew my mind
Speaker 3: because I hadn't even mentioned any of that to her
Speaker 3: at all, and she was like, this is surgery, this
Speaker 3: is death, this is scorpio, this is mother And I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Really, yeah, it's really wild.
Speaker 2: A moment for me, to be honest, to see that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then we have Pluto here with this red line
Speaker 4: that indicates a relationship between the planet's opposite, the moon,
Speaker 4: and the moon is also associated with the mother in aries,
Speaker 4: which is very independent, so you had to become become independent.
Speaker 4: And also it's in the tenth house where your moon
Speaker 4: is is the father house, so that could indicate your
Speaker 4: dad taking on the role of the mom or you
Speaker 4: having to mother yourself.
Speaker 6: Or take care of your dad almost a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, And then what is the little the
Speaker 2: eleventh house For me, I forget what that one is again.
Speaker 4: That is groups and friends, and you had your north node,
Speaker 4: your Destiny and Gemini, and then also Chirn the wounded
Speaker 4: healer and Taurus, which is your dad's sign, so indicating
Speaker 4: like you know, a wound experienced when you were you know,
Speaker 4: in your childhood. But also being very lucky with the
Speaker 4: Gemini north node there in a group like a ensemble
Speaker 4: cast or with the group and all the all the
Speaker 4: things you guys do with your fans as well.
Speaker 6: So also looking at all those Sagittarius planets down there
Speaker 6: in your fifth house, which rules fame in Hollywood, and
Speaker 6: you have the Sun and lucky Jupiter right next to it,
Speaker 6: So like I mean, you are naturally probably a very
Speaker 6: lucky person where you can make your own luck in
Speaker 6: a way. It's not like you just sit back, but
Speaker 6: you will go after what you want and you're not
Speaker 6: afraid to pursue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do feel that way.
Speaker 3: Actually, I've learned to think of myself as lucky because
Speaker 3: I feel like because of my mom, I felt very unlucky,
Speaker 3: and then I have since really understood how lucky I
Speaker 3: am in so many other ways of my life, so
Speaker 3: this makes sense.
Speaker 4: And it can be both, you know, an astrology like yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you can really see that yeah yeah, but
Speaker 4: the Scorpio, those planets in a particular combination of them
Speaker 4: is hard. It is challenging, and then the set, you know,
Speaker 4: so you get your that's what's That's I think what
Speaker 4: made astrology really interesting to us because we have a
Speaker 4: lot of sadge and scorpio too, and there's such different
Speaker 4: energies and you know, yeah, we're taught to kind of
Speaker 4: look for like, oh I'm this way and this is
Speaker 4: this one way that I am, but nobody really is.
Speaker 4: We can contain not only multitudes, but a lot of
Speaker 4: contradictions and complexities. So I felt like when I saw
Speaker 4: my chart, it gave me permission to be. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: have this dark side, but then this really light side too,
Speaker 4: and just you can be all of those things and
Speaker 4: different parts of your life. And I think you are.
Speaker 4: Probably with your family it's heavier, but with friends and
Speaker 4: love and your career it's it's exciting and fun and
Speaker 4: you see a lot of possibilities.
Speaker 2: I have one last question, does this luck for me
Speaker 2: continue through my life?
Speaker 6: If you broad in your It's kind of like if
Speaker 6: you want to be lucky for anyone, look at your Jupiter,
Speaker 6: but you're Jupiter. This little four symbol, it's down here,
Speaker 6: right next to your Sun. I don't know if you
Speaker 6: can see my arrow or not, but the Sun and
Speaker 6: Jupiter next to each other is somebody who like once
Speaker 6: you when you decide to shine and put your turn
Speaker 6: on your lights and be like, hi, I'm here, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna do something bold and daring it And oftentimes you
Speaker 6: might be lucky since Jupiter's and Sagittarius in when you're traveling,
Speaker 6: when you're in a you know, studying, when you're out
Speaker 6: of your comfort zone. Actually like you can come to
Speaker 6: life when you're not in your familiar surrounding and make
Speaker 6: everyone else feel comfortable and then just shine like might
Speaker 6: maybe like you've never met a stranger. I would imagine, like.
Speaker 2: Jessica, did you feel like I shined in Paris? For you?
Speaker 6: Camela?
Speaker 1: There's not a time where you don't shine.
Speaker 6: I was actually right now Saddurn the Glanet. Are you
Speaker 6: Are you like a little exhausted from traveling right now?
Speaker 4: Or I am so?
Speaker 6: Except you just don't want to travel right now.
Speaker 2: Probably No, I don't want to travel. My husband is traveling,
Speaker 2: so I wish that no one was traveling right now.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you're sad. Saturn it's not shown here but Saturn,
Speaker 6: which is kind of wherever it is that kind of I.
Speaker 2: Can show you down it.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, it is in your ninth house of travel
Speaker 6: right now, and it can be for like a few years,
Speaker 6: you know, a couple of years, next two years, you
Speaker 6: will feel more like she'll just be tired.
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, I can't not time. Guys.
Speaker 4: No, you're gonna be traveling for work mostly more than fun.
Speaker 1: You know what. The power of your mind is really important.
Speaker 1: You switch up those planets for me. Will you give
Speaker 1: her a different picture?
Speaker 2: He just I told you I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, by the way, you know what, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I would like to get onto me now because I'm like,
Speaker 1: of course, Leo, and just before before you maybe before
Speaker 1: you wrap out on Kimila, and maybe it's the first
Speaker 1: thing you can say about me. I just would love
Speaker 1: to know, because we talked about you know, what we
Speaker 1: are as you know, in our the year of right?
Speaker 1: So what what year is Camilla?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: Right? She is pig the pig. You're the water pig.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: What kind of pig the water pig? Oh yeah, A
Speaker 4: wet wet bacon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jessica, you're tired what bacon?
Speaker 6: I'm tell you why.
Speaker 2: Because Jessica asked me what I want and I told
Speaker 2: her I was a pig, and she's bringing it up.
Speaker 3: So everyone else knows I'm a pig because Jessica, some peacock.
Speaker 2: What are you?
Speaker 1: I'm a mythical magical dragon.
Speaker 2: And soggy ast pig.
Speaker 4: We're drowned rats right there with you? Water rats?
Speaker 3: So rude?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but wait, isn't there even isn't there something
Speaker 1: even more about my dragon or like a fire dragon
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 4: Yes, you are, You're a fire a fire dragon.
Speaker 6: You are?
Speaker 4: Oh, I can help dray you off.
Speaker 3: How are the fire dragons on the soggy pigs?
Speaker 4: How do they go along?
Speaker 1: Can I ride her?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 4: You can't, hop on, hop on, we'll fly away. Well,
Speaker 4: the the pig is associated with Pluto, so each of
Speaker 4: the planet, so you know Pluto's We didn't say nice
Speaker 4: things about Pluto, but Pluto's super intense pigs are very charismatic.
Speaker 4: They're lucky, though, yeah, no they are.
Speaker 1: I think pigs are so so so cute and charming adorable. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree. I told you there's nothing about you that's
Speaker 1: not the shinest exactly, the shiniest wet pig I ever saw.
Speaker 1: I just think, really the shine was that really a glisten?
Speaker 2: It's all those glistening pigs out there.
Speaker 1: You are not alone, Okay.
Speaker 6: Is served with everything for a reason?
Speaker 2: Exactly?
Speaker 1: What would be the quick snapshot of Jessica capsh Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 4: Let's come on. I want to say, well, let's this
Speaker 4: is a great time to demonstrate the system that's in
Speaker 4: our new book, the I Am System, where we took
Speaker 4: take your chart, put it in a blender and make
Speaker 4: you one of three archetypes innovader, authority or maven. And
Speaker 4: because I made you a report and I have it here,
Speaker 4: so why don't we show a new way of looking
Speaker 4: at the chart. You can also look at your chart
Speaker 4: as a spreadsheet too, so you can see where all
Speaker 4: the planets were, like fire, earth, air, and water. And
Speaker 4: then we call innovator, authority and maven and those are
Speaker 4: the innovators are the starters of things. The authorities are
Speaker 4: the ones that like you know, hold down the fort
Speaker 4: build and then the mavens are the ones that are
Speaker 4: fun and playful and out there. So Camilla you're a maven,
Speaker 4: and Chess, you're you're eight of your thirteen. Our authorities
Speaker 4: have one innovator.
Speaker 6: Eight yes, and mostly Earth in your chart too, yeah,
Speaker 6: super ground.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we have a little calculator if anyone wants
Speaker 4: to find out what there is is astrostyle dot com slash.
Speaker 4: I am where you can go and do the little
Speaker 4: put in your birth data. So you're what we call
Speaker 4: the uh the Earth authority, so it has a name.
Speaker 4: So you're the provider. You're dependable and responsible, with a
Speaker 4: strong sense of duty toward providing for yourself and your
Speaker 4: loved ones, practical and ground in your approach to life.
Speaker 4: So going to Paris with the maiven, I can only
Speaker 4: imagine you're like.
Speaker 1: You know, I just follow her because I'm the authority.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the authority makes the plans, you know. Hey, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Low on innovator. Where is where's Camilla and the innovator?
Speaker 4: I will find out.
Speaker 1: But I think she was mostly yeah maybe no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I need to do that, okay, So from you, so
Speaker 1: I think what we need to take away from this
Speaker 1: is that I'm an an authority. I almost said the authority,
Speaker 1: by the way, but it's just unauthority.
Speaker 4: Well, it's there's a venus to it. It's true. You're
Speaker 4: very high on authority, low on innovator, high on earth,
Speaker 4: and low on air. So when you're low on air,
Speaker 4: you know you need an oxygen tank. But no, when
Speaker 4: you're low on air, you're you like things. You're not
Speaker 4: always quick to change, or you may be a little
Speaker 4: reserved about communicating, sharing your ideas and opinions. You want
Speaker 4: them to be well informed before you do. When you do,
Speaker 4: you know, when you do speak, you have a strong message.
Speaker 4: But air is about the winds of change, so you
Speaker 4: may not like change as much. It might make you
Speaker 4: nervous when things aren't kind of settled beyond a certain
Speaker 4: point with low air in your chart. So but yeah,
Speaker 4: you're a and you have a good amount of virgo too.
Speaker 4: You've got mercury, venus and Mars and virgo. So that's
Speaker 4: communication and love. So you're you're very responsible and analytical,
Speaker 4: maybe a little critical sometimes, but in a loving, well
Speaker 4: meaning way. You can always see how helpful, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: can see how the friends and family, can you know,
Speaker 4: do you better prove and you probably like self improvement yourself,
Speaker 4: so does that track for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that tracks mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: The moon and Aquarius is good though. So the moon
Speaker 4: so Aquarius is the opposite side of Leo, so you
Speaker 4: were born on a full moon. So Leo is very
Speaker 4: is the heart and Aquarius is the head. So the
Speaker 4: you know, but the moon is your emotion. So it's
Speaker 4: it's kind of funny because when the moon's in this heady,
Speaker 4: not hurt kind of place, then you're you can also
Speaker 4: be a little you can step back from your feelings.
Speaker 4: Like even though this is where reading about a Leo
Speaker 4: just being a Leo, you might I'm not really like
Speaker 4: that because you might read, oh Leo's are dramatic, you
Speaker 4: not so much, because that Aquarius moon would make you,
Speaker 4: would give you give you the ability to be like,
Speaker 4: let me step back and be reasonable and look at
Speaker 4: this objectively, So that would be a tendency that you
Speaker 4: would have.
Speaker 1: This tracks as well. If anything, you.
Speaker 4: Might like actually need to push yourself to be a
Speaker 4: little more Leoy. You have and funny enough, you also
Speaker 4: have Saturn, which is where we are reserved and may
Speaker 4: hold ourselves back in Leo, so you're very restrained Leo.
Speaker 4: It's all over your charge. Sometimes you'll see sometimes you'll
Speaker 4: see it in one place, but sometimes a theme will
Speaker 4: pop up in a lot of different places. So you
Speaker 4: know you have this very pragmatic side. And I think
Speaker 4: for you, UH find you know, having only you know
Speaker 4: one innovator planet, like pushing yourself to try new things
Speaker 4: and get out of a comfort zone and use your
Speaker 4: imagination a little bit. I think acting is probably extremely
Speaker 4: healing for you because it's it's lets you get away
Speaker 4: from those voices in your head that tell you that
Speaker 4: you have to be seen, curious about everything. It allows
Speaker 4: you a sort of escape.
Speaker 2: It's acting then hard for Jess.
Speaker 4: No, I think it's I think it's it's not so not.
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering. I just I just can't for me
Speaker 2: just now.
Speaker 4: That you can make it hard, I would.
Speaker 2: Say it's a lot.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of things that would be easier
Speaker 4: for you if you would just like allow them to
Speaker 4: come naturally, But I think that you make them hard.
Speaker 6: Are you an over rehearser? Do you over rehearse or
Speaker 6: overthink things a little bit?
Speaker 1: I like to be prepared.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is going to be like, yeah, you want perfect
Speaker 6: to be prepared?
Speaker 4: You do, yes? Like others around you to be prepared?
Speaker 4: Shall we say as well?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: I really do, Yes, I have. That's where I can
Speaker 1: get very impatient when other people are not prepared.
Speaker 2: Isn't this so crazy, Jess?
Speaker 1: It's so crazy crazy. Well, I'm so happy that you
Speaker 1: guys came on and we got to talk about.
Speaker 2: Your book real quick because this has been such a
Speaker 2: wild experience for both of us. So for people to
Speaker 2: find you, where can they find you? What is your
Speaker 2: book called? How can they see their chart too?
Speaker 6: Start book right here? I just, of course I've been
Speaker 6: doing all kinds of social media. Sorry to right next
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Speaker 6: for personal and professional success. It basically turns your chart
Speaker 6: into what we're showing, like an archetype, so that you
Speaker 6: can and then teaches you how to you know, basically
Speaker 6: use it to hack your life in every way. How
Speaker 6: to set up your office for maximum productivity, How to
Speaker 6: manage time, how to you know how to go, how
Speaker 6: to plan a date that is successful? You know, how to.
Speaker 4: Commune to build a team, how to communicate with people
Speaker 4: who are different than you. So but we're also if
Speaker 4: you want to do like straight up astrology, come to
Speaker 4: astrostyle dot com. Follow us at astro Twins on Instagram,
Speaker 4: and we're always doing all kinds of things teaching people
Speaker 4: astrology and writing books and making forecasts. Yep.
Speaker 3: Incredible, you guys, Thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 3: This has been such a fun episode, such an incredible experience.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get all the books.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I already follow you guys on Instagram. And
Speaker 3: thank you for explaining all the things to our listeners
Speaker 3: because they might have been like me and really not
Speaker 3: known a lot.
Speaker 2: And I learned so much.
Speaker 1: Oh good good bye, Thank you, I know, and safe
Speaker 1: travels to you guys, and we'll have you guys on again.
Speaker 4: Well we need you closer to the I know, let's
Speaker 4: do some predictions, yes, twenty five and everything.
Speaker 6: I love.
Speaker 4: Yes, what's going on?
Speaker 2: I love it?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you guys, Thank.
Speaker 1: You by telling you bye. Oh my goodness. Well okay,
Speaker 1: so you I mean you are a fire soggy pig
Speaker 1: and I yeah, am a fiery, fiery dragon.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's fine.
Speaker 1: Which would you rather be?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm embraceting what I am.
Speaker 1: Jess. I think you should because you know what. I
Speaker 1: love you, little wet pig.
Speaker 2: I know I have to say before we go.
Speaker 3: I went into this, and I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 3: people you know hearing listening to this. I went into it,
Speaker 3: you know, excited, also potentially skeptical, but there was so
Speaker 3: much that listening for both of us that I was saying,
Speaker 3: this is crazy.
Speaker 2: So I encourage you guys.
Speaker 3: If you guys are interested in this stuff too, and
Speaker 3: you're curious, check out.
Speaker 2: Everything that they're doing.
Speaker 1: I really do think they know exactly what they're doing.
Speaker 2: These are the girls, These are the ladies. They know
Speaker 2: their stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and not that this makes them better, but man,
Speaker 1: oh man, are they fancy? I mean, I won't say who,
Speaker 1: but I know whose house she came from before she
Speaker 1: came to mind, and I was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did like. I did like that. I'm going
Speaker 2: to be tired for the next two years.
Speaker 1: That, by the way, did not. I want to erase
Speaker 1: that part from your memory because I don't need a
Speaker 1: tired wet pig.
Speaker 2: It makes so much sense.
Speaker 1: No, I do not need you to be further into
Speaker 1: your fatigue.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of coffee in my future.
Speaker 1: Well, I love this. I love having people who are
Speaker 1: experts on things, and these two know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: So this was fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and learning about this stuff for me for the
Speaker 3: first time with the crew, it was really exciting.
Speaker 2: Good experience.
Speaker 1: I know, I love it all right, I love you.
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. To call it what it is.
Speaker 2: We will call it the end of the episode.